Transcript of Episode #96 Featuring Lea Llovio! CONSCIOUS WELLNESS! Connecting the MIND, BODY AND SPIRIT! Spiritual Awakening, Finding your true self, The role of Nutrition in mental health and more!

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So thank you for coming in. It's always an honor to me to have people that are willing to come in here and think that it's worth their time to come and see me and talk. So we are going to talk about a lot today. We have a good connection on things that we talk about that is exciting to me because I'm really, the past several months, put a lot of work into connecting mind and body, and I know that's your specialty, and I love that, and I can't wait to really get in deep with you on this. So my guest is known as the Doc Whisperer, and she's a conscious wellness thought leader, and she's a globally sought-after keynote speaker. She integrates scientific medicine and spiritual medicine, which I absolutely love. We are going to get into intricate detail on everything you do and uncover, I think, some things that people are probably unaware of that go along in their lives and things that I know that you work on. So thank you and welcome, Leah Lovio.

Thank you so much, Dylan. It's really my pleasure to be here. And I, like you, feel very grateful that in the wellness community that we're now starting to realize the importance of our thought processes, of the mind-body- spirit connection. And we do so much in the wellness world. We use devices, we use light therapy, supplements, peptides, all of the things. There are distinguishing factors in people on who they actually work for. Because you and I both know the people that do everything and sometimes just can't seem to get better. I'm really grateful that you've invited me to have this conversation and that you've also pivoted somewhat into bringing more of the mental, emotional, and spiritual wellness that really affects our physical healing, which is so So important. I think that's what makes us conscious wellness people.

Yeah, I agree. It took me meeting Dr. Dave Rabin and getting into the neuroscience stuff and then piecing it together and making my life about becoming God first. That's when I really started to understand the need for the spirituality on my happiness. But then correlating it all together, to bring it all together is one, because I can give you all the diet in the world, all the training, everything. If you're not good here, it doesn't really matter because we're not going to fix anything, right? What battles do you encounter with people that are struggling here, and how much can it actually throw off your total wellness?

Well, I love that you're mentioning that because I think they go hand in hand, right? And it's really never one or the other. For example, I will start by saying that conscious wellness incorporates the mental, emotional, and spiritual, and physical wellness. Why? Because, for example, if we did all of the mental and emotional work, if we have a crap diet, if we do not actually take care of what we consume, if we don't take care of our environment as much as we can, it still makes it very difficult even to optimize the mental processes, the thought processes. In the beginning for me, when I started working with people, I worked more on the mental, emotional, and spiritual aspects of their lives. But what happened as time progressed is that I had people that had everything going on, and they could consult with anyone they wanted to. But if they were not actually incorporating the thought processes and really focus Focusing on what they thought about everything they were doing, what they thought about, what do they think about these peptides? What do they think about these supplements? What do they think about pharma as a whole?

What do they think about scientific medicine? If we couldn't fix what we think about all of the processes, all of the strategies, and all of the protocols that we do, then again, there's an interference to that healing process. However, just the same, you can have someone who is a master meditator that has all of the faith in the world, that really feels peaceful spiritually. But, and this happens a lot, especially with empathetic people, people that have as their goal in life to help other people heal, if they don't optimize their physical body, if their brain chemistry is off, it's very difficult to ask them to have a prayer practice in the morning, have a meditation practice in the morning, or a mindfulness practice. Why? Because the brain chemistry is off. The same thing with the hormones. I know you have a lot of expertise in the hormones and in the physical wellness. They really do go hand in hand when we encompass all of it, and it doesn't have to be all at the same time. This is when you truly see people that are living these extraordinary lives, that you see them and they always seem happy.

They are healthy. They have great vitality. They have beautiful relationships and people that they love, they're thriving in their business and their careers. Why? Because they decided at some point in time, You know what? I'm going to be really ambitious. Why am I just going to have material things? Or why am I just going to have physical health? Or why am I just going to have a spiritual Why not incorporate all of it so that we can live our absolute best life that could actually really be bliss on Earth? It really does start with the thought processes, but realizing that if you have any sense of spirituality, if you do believe that you are a spirit, if you do believe that you have a soul, well, that beautiful spirit, that beautiful soul, did choose this physical vessel to navigate this life in. And so we have to take care of both the mental emotional, spiritual, and the physical.

When you're a type A personality, and you never stop, and I don't deal with stress always perfectly. Sometimes I think that one of the reasons that I was pushed towards this was more like God's work. Teach people what you do, help them to overcome the issues that you're having. I think that a lot of things that happen to us, for some reason, when you go teach people, they happen to you for a reason because you were meant to help people and teach people. Which then brings me to the question of, how did this really become a passion for you to where you decided, okay, I'm going to dedicate my life to helping people up here piece it together. Was there something in your life that encouraged you to do that? Something that happened to you, something that you studied, then you saw that turned the light bulb on? What was it?

I think most people have their traumas. They have imperfect lives. Right, especially as you're growing up. In my particular case, I grew up in Los Angeles, and Los Angeles can present you with any type of chaos that you can imagine. I know. At the same time, I call it Los Angeles, the City of Angels. Because I feel that sometimes in the chaos, you find so many angels. And really, so many people come to Los Angeles, to the United States, to California, to make their dreams happen, right? And so in Los Angeles, we have Every spiritual practice, every religious practice, every ethnicity, every culture, every belief system, every political system. When you're surrounded by all of that, which becomes chaos, you must find a spiritual center to anchor yourself in. I did grow up in the more violent areas of Los Angeles, per se. I'm actually very grateful that I did because I had to learn to use my spirituality and my power to keep my own peace. At the same time, it really exposed me to so much pain and suffering. There's a lot of gangs, there's a lot of drug addiction, there's a lot of violence, there's a lot of crime.

When you see all of that, you realize, wow, people are suffering. People really need some help. If they don't have a spiritual anchor, it makes it really difficult, especially for people that are living in poverty, for example. They don't have access to organic food. For example, I grew up on pop tarts and twinkies and Cheetos and spam. Those were my meals. I came from an immigrant family, and that's what we could afford. We literally ate government cheese. And so with that, even more, it became important for me to understand that there was something more than this physical world. I was very blessed to be exposed, again, to many spiritual practices, to many religions, to many types of healing, not just in the religious setting, but many people that come from many different places, for example, in some countries that don't allow people to practice their religion. So they find other spiritual ways to practice their spirituality. They have to do it secretly behind closed doors. Sometimes this is where lighting a candle comes in. This is where praying to the angels comes in because you You can do that anywhere. You can do that privately.

And so with having that exposure in my life, it really made me always value that spiritual relationship with the divine, whether you call it God, whatever you decide to call it. But there is this spiritual presence that can anchor each person. And the other thing about being exposed to all of these different practices is that I think that God is so good that God actually created all of these religions and all these practices to say, Hey, I don't care what you call me. Just call me. I really love that I was exposed to all of this. When I was 16 years old, I was doing television shows. A lot for Latin America. Then I ended up working on films as an actress and TV shows. What happened for me is that I ended up always being everyone's spiritual advisor, everyone's therapist. Although it was very lucrative and attractive to have this type of career, I realized that my calling was really to help people mentally, emotionally, and spiritually. I have always gone where I'm called. I feel that some people are very harsh on people and say, Oh, you're not working hard. You can do whatever you want.

Some people don't have the luxury of choosing what they're going to do. Some people have to literally survive. S I think there's survival, and then there's doing what you're called to do. Also living in Los Angeles, that's another thing that you see, that a lot of people are in survival mode. As I started having these relationships with people that became my clients, really, even though they weren't paying me, I had someone one day say to me, I think I should be paying you for this. And so then that's when my career started shifting, and I did this work privately for a very long time. And because I started in the entertainment industry, I had very high-profile clients. I've always been under very strict NDAs and had to work that way, which is very good because everybody needs someone that they can fully trust.

Exactly.

Especially when you have a public persona. In this day and age, everybody has a public persona because we've got social media. But back then, it wasn't as prevalent. Mostly, we heard about politicians or celebrities. And so that's how it started for me was really following what I was called to do and knowing that my primary purpose in life is to serve. That is the most important thing. If I'm given this sacred physical vessel in this lifetime, then I'm here to do something for the world. It's not just for what's in it for me. And I have found this to be the most rewarding work in my life is to be there to serve others.

When one would have looked at what I had going on and said, Oh, you have everything, I would go to bed miserable, and I would wonder what was missing. Sweet cars, awesome house, our cated in my house. I mean, just all kinds of stuff. Bunch of shit. I would think, why do I go to bed unhappy? Why do I seem like I'm not... Something's off. When I stopped being a select slave to wanting stuff and became far more God-first and far more about others, not Dylan this, Dylan that. It was about, what am I doing here? What am I supposed to be doing? How am I supposed to be doing this? What am I missing? Everything changed and flipped upside down. My question to you is, because I've experienced that, do you find a lot of like, emptyness, a lot of trouble, a lot of anguish and stress or sadness? Do you find that a lot or do you find people that are just pleasantly happy with all that stuff?

I find both. I think one of the greatest blessings that I've had is that I've lived amongst the extremely poverty-stricken, and I've also lived among the 1% and everything in between. And what I can tell you is that you find the same struggles, emotionally, mentally, and spiritually, whether somebody has a lot or a little on the physical realm. And it does come down to, again, the mental, emotional, and spiritual fulfillment while you're trying to achieve the things. It's a blessing, and it's a tremendous privilege to have resources, to have things, to be able to feed your family, to be able to live in a comfortable home. It's a big privilege, absolutely. However, there was one friend that used to say, for example, with alcoholics, they used to say, Well, if you take an alcoholic who's a jerk and get him sober, he's just a sober alcohol. Is not really going to be much better. I think ultimately, when you achieve a certain level of success, all that happens is that your true colors show just because it becomes easier, because you don't have to give too many explanations or work for someone else. That's all.

But ultimately, who we are at our core and the fulfillment is not really going to change so much with the material things. It may help, for example, to get the help that we need. You may have more resources to get the therapies you need, to get the help you need. We have a big homeless population in Los Angeles, and a lot of that comes from people with very limited resources that have mental health issues, for example, and they just don't have the resources. But the physical resources, the money, the property, the prestige, these things, they're just one very small part of what can make a person whole or unwhole. Really, the fulfillment, it's when you're looking the fulfillment in those things that the problem comes. Because if you were unhappy before you had them and you didn't do any spiritual, mental, or emotional work, you're going to be just as unfulfilled when you have the material things. It's also, again, coming back to that purpose and really a little bit of humility of knowing that anything we have, including just that one more day, is a big privilege and it's a big blessing. When people come from a place of how may I serve versus what can I get?

Whether you are working at the gas station or the CEO of a big company or the president, everything changes. Because when you know that you're doing your calling, when you know that you're making a difference in people's lives and that your purpose is to help people, it doesn't really matter what material things you have. You will always be at peace, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually.

See, that humility is a big one. I don't think a A lot of people know what that means because it's not just being humble. Humility is being accountable, too. Being able to admit when you're wrong, being able to accept certain things that are going on for what they are, not thinking you can buy everything out or figure out everything on your own. I stopped trying to be in control and figure everything out on my own. That's good. I just ask God for help anymore, and I'm like, Okay, just please help me. I'm not trying to do this anymore. I always like to be in control of situations, meaning I handle things myself. But in real life stuff where you need help, I just ask anymore. I think once you get to that level, things do become easier to deal with and to handle the stresses and everyday life type of stress? Because I'm curious about mindsets of people from different ilks on what they're going through and how much stress they actually endure on a daily basis. Is the person with 75 million things going on more stressed, even though they got a lot of shit, or the person that has nothing but is suffering because they're just underprivileged?

What do you find to be the more, I hate to say problematic for you to work with, but the one that you see has the most problems?

That's a really good question. I can tell you that stress in the body is stress. The stress in your body doesn't know how much money you have in the bank. The stress in your body doesn't know what house you live in, what car you drive, if you're famous, if you're not famous. Really, it's about the thought processes. So this is the main thing that I like to work on, whether I'm working with someone high profile or a doctor or their staff or clients, patients that we share. We always work on the thought processes first. Because, for example, if you are really struggling, if you're underprivileged, and if your thought processes are of anger and resentment at your situation, you're stealing those those thought processes from thinking about, Well, what can I do to make my life better? What's one little thing I can change today that might get me out of this situation? And that has a different effect on the stress in your body, on your cortisol levels. You know that stress causes high cortisol, and it does all kinds of damage to your body. But hope and having a desire and having wishes in your heart raises your serotonin, raises your dopamine.

One of the things we have to do as human beings is brainwash ourselves. The same applies to if you're a high-profile person, you're going to have a lot of people that love you and a lot of people that hate you. Yeah, been there. You can't control either one. You cannot make people like you, and you cannot make them dislike you. Really, you can't. Ultimately, you could be Mother Teresa, and there's some people that actually don't like Mother Teresa. This is Mother Teresa, because maybe she had certain opinions on things. So what can one do? Again, it's the thought processes and going back to that, having some hopefulness in our heart and having a desire to do something in this life to serve humanity. One of the things that Maslow taught is that in order to achieve the highest level as a human being is to be independent of the good opinion of others. That's one, is that we must be independent of the good opinion of others because we will never, ever be able to control what anybody thinks about anything. The only one we can start to control is ourselves. What do we think about our situation?

What do we think about ourselves? And the same thing, right? You have people coming at you all day. If you're very well known, people hating on you, and now it's all over the internet and all over the media. That's a lot to deal with. So this is why we have to work on the thought processes and on having a purpose so that you can always anchor back to that purpose, to those thought processes. And it is a tremendous advantage if you do have a spiritual life. If you do have someone that you pray to, if you do light a candle, if you do believe in something greater than just this physical realm. Most people that have that, they do just far better in life.

Oh, yeah, 100 %. I started doing YouTube in 2011, and I faced a lot of things that most people would just completely crumble, things that were said to me. I didn't handle it super great either. I would be a little combative and say some things. My wife and my... She would see things, and I know it upset her. I never wanted my stepkids to see things or anything like that because It's just terrible. But I got to the point where I said to myself, Who am I trying to impress and what purpose does it do? When I wake up in the morning, do I think about somebody that made a comment about something I had, the shoe collection I had in the background? If they did, who cares? Or if they said something bad about the way I looked or whatever. The other day just did it. I showed her, I said, What are they talking about? Am I missing something? Because they were talking about all this stuff I had on my face, and I just had microneedling done. They were saying, I was doing this and that, and I was like, I don't care anymore.

Because why would I care? Because as long as people are hearing the verbiage and getting the message, the messenger is simply there to just give it.

You're so right. And guess what? The people that are spending their time zooming in on you to criticize you, you're not the only one they're doing it to. And the truth of the sad matter is that those people are not living a purpose in their life. They're spending their time, their energy, their sacred life energy on criticizing another human being instead of doing something. They're stealing from themselves. They are the biggest thief in the world. But the thing is, they're not doing anything to you. No. They're stealing from their own life. They probably have something they'd like to do in life, but instead, they're spending time looking at your shoe collection and at your microneedle and whether or not you used a filter and criticizing you. So this is very sad, and I don't have a criticism on people that do that. I have compassion for them.

Yeah, I feel terrible for them. I always say I feel... I used make... I used to have something that wasn't very polite to say back. But now I wonder if they realize what people like me that are comfortable say. Right. I either get a good laugh out of it, or we tend to make fun of them, or I feel terrible. Because if you spend your free time, and this is what concerns me, because I have very little free time, and I've lost... I can tell you this, I don't want I say I know more than anybody because that's not a fair statement, but I've lost a lot of time. If there's one thing you can't get back, you can't buy back, you can't create it back, you can't make it back, is time. Once it's gone, it's gone. You can't get it back. It is gone. My sadness for people like that is in your free time, whether you have kids, a wife, a family, or you could be doing something training-wise or educating-wise, you're spending your free time actually just looking for people to insult.

Terrifyingly sad. It's time and energy. You said exactly. We only have 24 hours in the day. I don't care who you are. You can't get more. So far, unless we change the system. But as of right now, we each only get 24 hours every day of this sacred life that is a privilege to live. Everything is time and energy. This is why I like people to be very ambitious. Ambitious to be the healthiest, the happiest, the kindest, the most compassionate, and with your time, to realize that, oh, my gosh, you'd have no guarantee if you're going to wake up tomorrow. No. You have no guarantee how many days you have left. I don't care if you go see the best psychic in the world and what they say. You have no idea. Really valuing our time and energy and realizing that every single day is composed of that sacred time and energy that you get in this blessed life that you only get one that you're aware of. There may be people that have extraordinary higher states of consciousness that may be able to see many lives, but most of us just get to see this one life.

In those days, those 24 hours are composed of that time and energy. What do you want to dedicate that time and energy to? There's so much to do.

I know. One of the things that I've really tried to work on, and I'm going to lead this into a question for you. I like to set an example to lead into a question.

I love it.

I have taken a lot of pride in being a doer, not a sayer. I despise that. Oh, I'm I'm going to do this, or I'll do this, or one day. One day turns into years and years and years. If there's ever a moment where I say I'm going to do something and I don't, A, I'm the first one to admit I'm so sorry, and I don't try to hide it because a lot of people will say stuff and they disappear and they never say and they act like it never happened. But I try with every, even the smallest littlest thing, it will eat me alive if I can't do what I say I'm going to do. I think that I call it the lost art of accountability. It is prevalent everywhere. I find that the people that aren't accountable or that talk a lot and don't do a lot are the most unhealthy. I'm curious, your thoughts on why do you think people do that talking so much without doing? Is it like they like to hear themselves talk? They create a façade to make themselves feel better. And do you find that their level of health, mental and physical, is worse than it should be?

It stems from that It's coming to the world and to life to see what's in it for you. It really does. When people are saying, I'm going to do this. I'll connect you here. I'll do that. Many times, they're trying to make that connection thinking that maybe if they tell you that, maybe you're going to do something for them first. In the meantime, while they get there. I've seen that a lot with people that are trying to network and do things like this. But the key here is that there's an emptyness, right? And they're finding superficial ways to connect with other people. Okay. Versus, again, if you come from a place, if you have a practice, whatever that practice may be, your morning practice, which is really special and important because it sets the tone for our days, for these blessed days that we get to live this life in, with how may I serve? I ask my clients to really think of three things that they're grateful for in the morning.

That's good.

Three desires or intentions that they have just for themselves, just for themselves. The sky's the limit. You can go big there. Then I always say the most important intentions are, how may I serve, how may How may I do something for somebody else today? How can I make someone else's life better today? How can I do something without expecting anything in return? The way this affects the physical health is that when we come to our days, with, How may I serve? The cells in your body, I say they start to do a little dance, and they start to say, Well, I've got this human here that's strategizing on how to be of service to the world, on how to help other people, so we must be good. And then the cells can relax and do the work that they need to do. But when there's this tightness of, Oh, my God, I need to figure out how I'm going to get this, how I'm going to do that, how can I tell this I'm going to do this to see if they'll do this for me, then your whole body is restricted. Your body is full of stress.

Your consciousness is full of stress. And your spirit is suffering because your spirit's like, Hey, we didn't come here to be like, sucking on life. We came here to give something. We've got some great work to do. And so, yes, it absolutely affects the physical body. It absolutely affects physical health. And I see this again and again with some of the extraordinary doctors that I'm blessed to work with that are traveling all over the world, speaking at conferences every week, internationally. I work with them and I see them in person, and they have tremendous stamina, and they do walk the talk, and they are very healthy. But guess what drives them? They really want to help people. They're here to serve humanity. They really want to help people heal. They are truly coming from a place of extreme generosity. I cannot say names, but I can tell you that I know doctors that will travel anywhere to help someone, even if they're not getting paid. These are doctors that are concierge doctors that get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. They don't tell about that work that they do.

Yeah, they're not posting a facade on there to make their life look so expansive. That's stuff that I pull from the Bible. It was like, don't try to pray in front of everybody so everybody sees it. Do it in private and do it the way it's supposed to be. That's the type of things that some people do and some people don't. I think some of the best work is the stuff you, me, and anybody else doesn't see. Here's an example. You said the morning routine, and I am the most regimented routine guy on the planet. I have been for... I mean, my dad was that way, but then when I went to prison, that was like your whole life was a routine. That was what you lived on. It's what you had. I still carried that with me. Now my morning walk, we talk talk about the sunlight and the steps. But you know what else is nice for me is I walk by so many people in one small smile. I can see the effect of me because people walk on those paths and they look down or they're on their phones, or they just don't look at you.

I make everybody look at me to say hi. I have that. Yeah, and I see... Well, and I'll tell you where I got that from. My mom raised me that way, but it was something like I learned in my readings. And then the priest had talked about it, and it was like, Don't put your head Look at people, smile at them, because you don't know the type of suffering one person in that one look could maybe save somebody's life or make their day. I just make everybody look at me, and I turn and look at them, and it's just to say hello and good morning, and that's it. Some people, I think it catches them off guard and whatever. But those little things, they make my soul feel good in the morning because some of those mornings are stressful, and I don't feel great when I go walk because I know I got a slew of stuff to do. And stuff like that, it makes me feel way better. It doesn't take anything.

I always say, treat everybody as if your life depends on them, if your life depends on how you treated them. If we each come to our day treating each human being as if, Hey, if I don't smile at this guy, he could have a say. You don't know. He might be the doctor that's there when you're at the hospital or the nurse. But more importantly, what you were saying, absolutely. You never know where someone's rushing to, why they look mad. And your smile, even if they didn't smile back, restores a little bit of faith and humanity in them. And They could be on their way to kill themselves. I've literally had people on their way to kill themselves and say, You know what? This woman just smiled at me, and it just gave me a little bit of hope, and they hung on one more day. You So I thank you that you do that, and I love that you do that because it's so important. If we each say, I'm just going to smile at people, you really can change someone's life, and you can really save somebody's life. And you know what? All of our lives actually do depend on each other.

They do. They do. And you don't even realize it a lot of the times. One time, me and Queenie were at Macy's, and I saw this woman buying all kinds of bedding, and I was I asked her, I said, How the hell is she going to take all that to her car? I said, Can I just go ask her if she wants help? I don't want her to think I'm a weirdo. But at the same time, so I carried all her stuff to the car. It took me 10 extra minutes out of my day. The woman thanked me 30 times over. And stuff like that, that if you just do stuff like that, it's easy, and it makes you feel good. I think that that makes people healthier.

It absolutely does. It actually raises your serotonin, their serotonin, and anyone else who's witnessing it. Everybody feels better. Just like when you see a movie that makes you cry because it's beautiful and touching, it's the same thing. When we see and experience one human being being kind to another human being, not only are they affected by it positively, physiologically, but anyone witnessing it also gets a little boost, gets a vibration boost, gets a health boost. It's like getting a little IV of NAD.

Well, and so here, I have some other questions for you that are more on the nutrition side, because I'm curious about this. I haven't really discussed this very much now that I think about it. And this is why these conversations are good and why no one should ever script anything, because then these things come up. I am curious, diet-wise, are there certain types of diets that you find to be better for the mind, that correlate more with a healthier mind? And once again, I do realize that everybody has different needs, necessities, and conditions that they may or may not have, allergies, et cetera. But is there a diet structure or style or certain foods that you find that are happier foods, that treat the mind a little bit better?

One of the doctors that I absolutely love is Dale Brettison. I go to some conferences where he speaks, and there's other professionals just like him. Their main goal is really brain optimization, preventing cognitive decline, preventing preventing Alzheimer's, dementia. They really do give a specific type of diet to patients that see early signs of cognitive decline. They have the studies, and it has been proven over and over again, that when they do move into a ketogenic diet for those type of ailments, it definitely moves a needle, including for children like with autism, with ADD, with schizophrenia. They do see a lot of improvements there. Now, I am not an advocate for one specific type of diet because we are all different. I do know some vegetarians that do well. Most people, overall, though, because of the environment that we're all growing up in, because most people are going to eat packaged food at some point, they are going to have toxic food and seed oils at some point. And most people, if you're over 30, you probably didn't grow up on fully organic food. So you already have some of those repercussions of a bad diet, per se, or a toxic diet.

Most people do very well with wholefoods, with organic foods, when they're able to eliminate processed food. When you eliminate processed food, oh, my gosh, you've eliminated so much just by doing that. But absolutely, people with depression, for example, one of the things they start doing is eating more and more sugar. That just feeds that cycle, that chemical cycle in their brain, and they get more and more depressed, and they get that little dopamine hit just like cocaine, except it's sugar, and they feel better for 30 minutes, and then they're even more depressed afterwards. There's definitely happy foods, and there's definitely depressive foods. Foods can definitely really make you very depressed, very anxious. You can get migraine headaches right away. For myself and the people that I work with, we travel so much. When we're at home, we're eating our healthiest food. But sometimes you travel and you can't control absolutely everything. You feel those little reactions like, Oh, all of a sudden, there's this little headache, or why am I moody when I'm usually really even keeled? It absolutely is the food. What's the one thing we can control most of the time is what we put in our mouth.

Because even the environment, you can't really control the environment. You can't control the air everywhere. No. But what you put in your mouth, that most of the time you can.

That's why I always tell people, Look, I don't spend your money. I don't do your finances. But I will say this, what you put in your body is the most important of anything. So I implore you. I get it. It's completely backwards that it's more expensive to eat healthy. It makes zero sense. But we're not here to make sense of things. We have what we have, and we have to do what we have to do. So I always tell people, Look at your budget. What is it that you're spending money that you could push this way and not do that way that you don't need to do? Just do the best you can. Because I know not everybody can do it, but do the best you can. There are certain things you absolutely need to make sure that you're eating properly. You don't want to be eating meats where they're eating on all these grains in this HMO. That stuff is going right into your body. So whatever an animal eats, you're putting into yourself. If you're a woman, pregnant or anything, you're passing that right onto your kid. I don't think people understand that.

I think that's some facade, and it's so true. Then there's things that maybe you don't need to go as organic on and whatever. But I think that it needs to be stressed, that it's not just your physical look and your internal bloodwork. It up here, too. It'll just thrash you if you're eating bad. It can be totally depressive. Plus, if you look like shit, you're going to be depressed, too. Absolutely.

The greatest investment you can make is what you put into your body and the health that you give yourself. For example, this is really interesting. There are some people that will go spend $2,000 on a bag or shoes, but they don't want to spend money on organic food, or they don't want to spend money on a really top doctor or health coach. They're like, Oh, no, they're not in my insurance. I'm like, Okay, can you not do three of the bags this year, or three pairs of shoes, or one of the watches, and invest that instead into your health That's where you get the biggest return, right? Is investing in what you consume and what you do for your physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual health. It's the greatest investment of all.

I agree. Let's do a little shift here because you are privileged to be around some experts that know some stuff about peptides, some stuff about supplements, things like that. I've been doing it a long time, so I'm versed on certain peptides, especially that I know are good for the mind, anxiety, stress, things like that. But I also know you can't be reliant on that. You got to fix some other things first before you start getting into that. Let's just imagine here that we've fixed a lot of the things that we can that would then make somebody be able to use these and get the most out of them, or at least close to the most out of them. I just want to throw that out there. You need to get yourself right in other areas first before you start taking things. They're not magic, but let's just say we're aligned.

I feel that all medicine supplements, whether it is natural or it's a pharmaceutical, whether it's a peptide, are sacred. I think all medicine is sacred medicine. We should use whatever is really going to help us, one, sometimes get over a hump, and then once we're well-optimized, Why would we limit ourselves to just being okay? Let's start with neutropics. I love neutropics. Me, too. I have seen them change people's lives, turn their brain on, for example. People that really felt hopeless. They felt, Oh, I can't focus no matter what I do. Suddenly, they start using a nicotine patch, or they chew nicotine gum three times a week, or use a lozange. Suddenly, their brain is turned on, and maybe they're not going to use it every single day, but it gives them that focus. That's something that, again, I'm not talking about cigarettes, by the way. There's a lot of confusion with nicotine and some of these extraordinary doctors that I'm blessed to work with absolutely use nicotine, especially on many of their patients over 50, to prevent cognitive decline. They also use it to help with the vagus nerve. They also use it because that's connected sometimes to people that have like, sebo and digestive problems.

So they will use a nicotine patch with them. They also use it for travel.

Yes, I've heard of that several times.

For the immune system. And if somebody's starting to get sick, they We'll tell them, Hey, get a seven milligram nicotine patch, and you don't put it on the whole time right away if you're not used to it, but you start with maybe 10 minutes at a time. And then most of these doctors, including myself, we travel with a nicotine patch, especially For those of us that are always traveling, speaking at conferences, you need something to protect you. Those are on the new tropics. Of course, there's other ones that I'm not endorsing it. Everyone's different, but modafinal has been tremendous for people with ADD, and a lot of people do better with it than Adderall. And again, a complete life-changer. People that really felt hopeless, why would we not give them the tools so that they can focus and actually do what they want to do in their life? Oh, yeah.

It's a million-time better option than Adderall, in my opinion.

Yes. Oh, yeah. Me, too. And so those are more on the neutropic side. Sure. And then for the peptide side, I think I mentioned this to you when we talked on the phone. I say peptides make life fair.

Yeah, right.

I agree. That is my opinion on peptides. So, for example, of course, you can use peptides, and I think most of your audience is aware, for anything from helping you preserve muscle, to build muscle, to resetting your circadian rhythms, to helping with your mitochondria, to helping with your cognition. Some of my favorites, if we're still on the neutropic cognition side is cerebral lysion. I think that one is absolutely fantastic. I have seen 70-year-olds that were really showing some signs of cognitive decline do some rounds of cerebral lysion, and they are like, Oh, shoot, my brain is on. Because maybe at that age, some people may not want to do like modafinil, for example. But cerebral lysion, I have seen just extraordinary success with that, especially if you're noticing Or people that have had trauma to their head, like athletes that have gotten some big trauma to their head, like football players and things like that. They do extremely well with this as well. I love Cerebral Lyson. Then for the fairness part, working out. You know people that they do everything. They're at the gym 2 hours a day. They've got the diet dialed in, and they just can't build muscle because everyone's physiology is completely different.

Some people are very blessed, and they can easily build muscle, but others cannot. Now, when you bring in some peptides, some growth hormone secretagogs, and I have my own favorites, which are tessamorolin and ipamorolin, those Those are my favorites.

I laugh because Tessa Morland is my ultimate favorite.

Me too. It's a game changer. Suddenly, they're not having to spend 2 hours at the gym Monday through Saturday. Now, they're going three times a week and having more in their life, and they're actually starting to build some muscle. Tessa Morland even helps people with their lipids, with fatty liver, for example. You can do the lab work on them, and you will see after six months of using it, if they had a fatty liver, that's going to be really improved. That's right. We've seen that multiple times. I want to connect the physical wellness and the muscle with also your stamina in life. Physical muscle is so important. We have More and more doctors coming out talking about this, how important muscle is and how important it is for all-cause mortality. The more muscle you have, the longer you're going to live and the stronger you're going to be. Especially for women who at a certain age, if they fall down, break a hip, we all know that the statistics are that within a year, they can die. That's one reason, physiologically, why it's so important. But building physical muscle just makes you feel stronger as a human being.

It's so important. If I'm going to the supermarket, if I'm traveling by myself and having to lift my suitcase, just knowing as a human being that I can do these things for myself makes me feel like, Okay, I can do life, right?

Oh, yeah.

Versus if you feel weak and you feel like you can't lift things, you start to feel weak as a person.

I was going to say it has a cognitive effect, too. It's not just a physical effect. Absolutely. It always goes hand in hand. I've been on your audience for five or six months, and it has made me weak. It's made me lose weight, and it's made me feel less. I look at the scale and I go, Oh, I would say, Oh, I can get away with eating more, and da, da, da, but I feel like so much less. I had to stop taking it because it was draining my electrolytes. I was having heart rhythm issues and I mean, just destroying different aspects of me because I'm not diabetic. It was used for heart failure or beginning stages of it. So Things like that that can take away and pull away. Then we've got peptide options that can build. I don't think a lot of people truly, truly understand how difficult it is to put on 2-3 pounds of legit lean muscle and keep it. I'm not talking about eating and gaining weight. I'm talking about lean muscle gain and holding on to it. It is very difficult. It takes a very structured diet, a very structured training regimen, one that is continuously shocking the body.

See, a lot of people get it wrong because they don't adapt. You know what I mean? They don't change, and they don't push themselves. Then they say they don't get it. But I get it in five seconds as soon as I analyze. What you said about tesamore Tessimoreland that I love is it gives you the ability to burn fat and still build lean muscle, which you could do with ipibreolin, too, but not to the extent of Tessamoreland. I was going to ask you, two of my favorites are Silank and C-max, then paired together They really have a lot of synergy, and it's more like the anxiety and the stress relief and the calming effect and everything. I love those, too. I do, too. That's why I wonder what your thoughts were on those.

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, so many people use them. I use them. I cycle through my peptides throughout the year. I don't do the same ones the entire year. There are some that I keep in place, like BPC-157.

Yeah, that's a must.

Yeah. One of the ones that I absolutely love, that actually one of our favorite people, Dr. Elizabeth Yurth, she's the one who introduced me to that, is TB 500. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Those are peanut butter and jelly.

Yes, absolutely. But I use it at a higher dose because of her. I used to do the lowest dose, but some clients of mine were having hair loss.

Really?

One of the things that we started doing is using it at one to two milligrams Monday through Friday for a few months, and that totally reverse the shedding.

If you do a little loading phase with it and then do some maintenance afterwards. But people, once again, bad pared in information and misunderstanding that certain scenarios require a little bit of different utilization. I discovered peptides in 2011 because I was doing underground coaching and discussion and found the research chemical market. There was seven or eight you could pick from, and that was it. Now there's thousands for everything. Back then, it was just like what you were talking about. Milana Tantu, and then a bunch of growth hormone secretogox, and that was it. Nothing else to pick from. What are your thoughts on how it's changed and how it's evolved in the future?

Well, we have more chemical compounds now, and that's another division, right? Like the Sloop. Have you heard of Sloop? Oh, 3-3-2? Yeah. That used the right way. I have had some clients that were like 100 pounds overweight, and that combination with GLPs, but at very low doses, not the high doses that a lot of people were using for a while. I'm talking about 100 micrograms, like very low- A Sloop or GLP. A sloop, yeah. Very low dose combined with another one, BAM-15.

You have to run those together, too.

Especially for men, I have seen real progress because there are some men that have been overweight their whole life. Where it's going, well, we will no longer have to have these diseases. We will not have to have heart disease or obesity if we're able to incorporate the right diet and the right compounds into our diet. I'm sure you know this, but many of the doctors, they really do prescribe the very microdose GLPs, even for people that are apparently very healthy, just for longevity, for anti-aging, for the prevention of cognitive decline, because it reduces the inflammation in the body so much.

Yes. See, this discussion is important because the key here is proper use. The nicotine, the GLPs, they're intended for a specific use. Like anything else, you start to abuse it, which you can do with vitamins, you In a more extreme case, you could drink too much water. You could. You could. Everything that we need that's good, you could also abuse it, and then something bad could happen. A lot of these things have such benefit, but you start telling people, and they freak out and get all angry without understanding the way that you have to use them.

You are so right. And the other thing that I find is that if they know of one person who had a bad experience with something, they're like, Oh, no, no one should do modafinil or no one should do slup. I would say there's something for everyone, and nothing is for everyone.

Exactly. That's exactly right. With the Jardians, for example, I am the The biggest believer in the world of SGLT2 inhibitors. I think phenomenal. But right now, it's not agreeing with me personally. I am not going to say one thing bad about it other than there's things that I had to stop and reset and then figure out how am I going to accommodate this if I'm going to take it because it's doing this to me. Although the benefit here is working because it is, because like, ejection fraction went up 6% in a few months. But at what cost? And how can I try to mitigate this? And if not, then It's just not for me, but I certainly know it works. You know what I mean? And then people do this where I can't stand when the only correlation you have when you're teaching somebody is what it did to you and not the 75,000 other people that it may have worked for. Exactly. And we have to get out of that trap in that mindset, right? Because that's what it comes down to.

Absolutely. It's having curiosity and being open and understanding that, again, there's something for everyone. And also, there's no compound that's evil. There's no prescription that's evil. It really is in how you use it if it's appropriate for you. And of course, a lot of factors come into place, right? There's people that say, Oh, the GLPs don't work for me. But they get on a GLP, and they're still eating McDonald's every day. And well, no, it's not going to work for you if you do that. Or they say, Oh, I did lose a ton of muscle. Well, we know the appropriate way is to make sure that you get enough protein, especially if you're going to use a GLP. And you must do some resistance training to keep your muscle. And I know plenty of people, including myself, that use GLPs that have actually gained muscle on microdoses of GLPs because we're using it appropriately.

Yes. And I would argue, if you can't eat enough with it, then you're probably taking too much. There you go. I mean, that would be one of the first telltale signs for me as a coach or a consumer. Okay, let's scale it back. Right? So I I think that there's so much misuse and misunderstanding, and that's why there's so much infighting amongst people in general, because everybody's on a one track mind. As opposed to wrapping their head around, wow, there could be multiple ways or means of opinion or methodology or use.

Yes. You mentioned the mindset of this. This is also very important, whether we're incorporating a peptide or a prescription drug, to really really have the thought process and the mindset and set the intention for that sacred medicine and to see it that way, to bless the medicine, to ask whoever you pray to, to ask God, please bless this medicine that my body will take it the right way. I know an extraordinary healer that did this for a patient that had cancer. In the beginning, the doctors didn't want her to be there, but he wanted her there in the waiting room. After a while, the doctors wanted her there, too, just because she was there doing prayers and setting good intentions for everything to go well for the patient. This changed everything. It really matters what our thoughts are about everything that we do. If we go to the gym and say, It never works for me, it's not going to. If we take a peptide and we think, Oh, this could be dangerous, or like with growth hormone or things like that, Oh, that causes cancer. If you think that way, Don't do it. Like, literally, just don't do it.

But if you can say the people who created every type of peptide, every type of device that we use for our wellness, every medication, the initial start of that was with a sacred desire to help people heal. It had an intention of, let me see if I can help people get rid of obesity. Let me see if I can help people with fatty liver. Let's see if we can prevent more heart attacks. That was the original intention. If we can set our intentions on whatever supplement we're going to use, whatever prescription drug we're going to use, whatever peptide, and say, This came from a good intention. This is here to heal me. Really, just like some people, pray over their food and ask for that food to nourish them. If we do that, that really does change it. I've done that with studies with people on the aura ring, for example. Going to bed, if they program programed their self with the intention of what are they really tracking and what's the goal? So many people want to improve their HRV, their rem, their deep sleep. If they program themselves, even with using some of the devices we use, like the Apollo, and say, I'm going to use this and it's really going to help me get into this deep sleep, they do see a difference in the morning in the tracking.

They see that their rem improved. They see that their HIV improved. But if we do things without the good intention and the positivity of the possibility of the immense healing that can come from what we're doing, we're missing a really big piece that really changes the game and accelerates the healing process.

Oh, yeah, you can think negative and just make stuff go bad. Right, you can. You do. I don't want to say you curse it from the start, but in simple terms, you do. And then you set yourself up for failure. I see it all the time. I used to do it, too. And I really try to never do that anymore and just think everything's going to go great. Well, I guess we flew through that. But that was really, I think we touched on a lot of great things and hopefully talked about some things you don't normally talk about so people can see more versatility in what you do as well. That's why I like these.

We did.

Yeah. I talk to people before, as you know, but it's only to build a little relationship. I tell everybody the same thing. People send me a script, send me this for that. I say, Well, great. Thanks. We use that shit.

You go with the flow.

No, that's how you have a successful episode with somebody, because then it's a real conversation. So thank you for going back and forth with me.

Dylan, thank you so much. And thank you for the work that you're doing, and you're bringing so much light and healing to the world, and it's so needed. And I appreciate your generosity. And more than anything, that you smile at people every day on your watch. That's so beautiful.

I make them do it.

Yeah.

Well, tell people, how they can follow you. You do a lot of speaking. If there's ways to interact with you online, and I'll link everything in the description.

Yeah. So the best place to find me is on my Instagram page. I have everything there. I have links there, and usually I will put where I'm speaking next there. And then people are always welcome to DM me, and I'm happy to answer any questions and help in any way that I can.

Awesome. Well, thank you. That was fun. It helped me a little bit mentally, too. So thank you. I appreciate it. But I I truly believe everybody will benefit from this in a variety of ways, and I think it'll make people smile, laugh, and reassess certain things going on in their life. That's always the goal, is to just sit back, reassess, and go, Okay, maybe we can fix something somehow and take even the smallest bits and pieces. That's all I care about.

That's beautiful. We keep planting the little seeds of healing in the world.

That's it. Thank you again. I appreciate it. That wraps up another one, everybody. So stay tuned for plenty more to come. Dylan Jameli signing off.