Pulitzer Prize-winning Pablo Torre does his fancy boy journalism and we do ours. We have now the anonymous, uh, guest, but this is real, uh, he wants his anonymity protected because of how flammable the internet can be, but we have on with us, and I'm not even going to say his name, the person who, uh, revealed that Tyler Herro had been instant messaging and direct messaging things that would make Bam Adebayo and eventually punch him. So that guest is on with us now, and he's doing a great job. I thought we were going to have to do some of this work for him, but he brought his own mask and brings his own anonymity, and we don't even have— he looks tremendous. No, this is serious. This is serious journalism. Thank you for being on with us, mystery guest who absolutely got Tyler Herro punched. Take us through the beginning parts of this story. How is it that you and Tyler Herro began interacting where he felt comfortable enough with you to share family secrets.
So, so basically what happened was I was scrolling on Instagram and I came up on his burner and I commented, retire Hope, pretty much. And then he commented back telling me that he's just getting started, this, that, this, and like his career is going to be great. And then he hopped in my DMs, like making fun of me. And then we were going back and forth for like months. I would basically, every time he had a bad game or something like that, I'd tell him he's terrible. Miami's going to be better when he's gone. Stuff like, hello. Along those lines. And he would, anytime he had a good game, he would have him on my DMs like drop dots, talk about how nice he was and this, that, this. He needs, he needs the team to be built around him and things of that nature. And then the particular message about Bam, he had a terrible game the game before and I was telling him how bad he was. And then he's like, everyone's worried about me, but there's a guy making $60 million. And then he started to go in on Bam.
So you were basically taunting him for months with retire hoe?
Yeah, basically like That, like, the particular ban message, he had a bad game. And I said to him, so how many more years until you're in China? 2029? And then he got mad and then started going back and forth with me from there.
So how long would you, if you had to guess, how many months were you going back and forth with Tyler Herro?
Probably, I'd say probably since like around like December.
Were there times that he was reaching out to you after good games that you weren't even reaching out to him?
Yeah. Like, there was one time where he had like a 30-point game, but we lost and he was on a flight to Philly and like, he hit me with a bunch of dots. And then I said, there's no way you're thinking about me after you just dropped 30.
Was there ever a point where you were saying to yourself, why is an NBA player even having these conversations with me?
Yeah. And I think it was because like, he would always laugh about like the way like I talk to him. I think he just found me funny. So you just go back and forth with me. But I found it crazy and sort of like all my friends who I showed them to. I've been watching Heat for like 20 years since I was a kid. Like, they've been my favorite team. So like my friends, the only player that I've ever disliked on the team, not him as a person, just his game. I always kept it on his game and they were just found it crazy that he was interacting with me.
Are you more of a waste man or is he more of a waste man?
I would say he's more of a waste man.
The hell does that mean?
Do you feel good, Brody, or bad about everything that's happened here?
Uh, him getting hit, it's like 50/50. I don't really want somebody to get hit. Everything else, it doesn't matter. I was just trolling him, you know. He should have known it was gonna get out. I was on— I was— the only reason why I talked to him was to talk to him and to tell him how much I didn't like his game.
It's not a bit, it is not fake, we are not acting. This is the person who he outed, Tyler Hero. Do you have any regret about that? Any remorse about that?
Remorse about Bam punching him? Yeah. The DMs not really, no.
So how does the news get to you that all of this has escalated to the point that Bam has punched him?
I just like my group chat, they're sending, they're like, they're like, yo, look.
If you want to remain anonymous, you got to be careful about revealing your own name there. I know I'm just trying to help him though. He's got the mask. He's got the mask.
I don't think he's from San Francisco.
I've got to work with you, Chris, also on how to protect his anonymity as well. You shouldn't repeat the name that he shouldn't have ever said. From among your friends and among the people talking to you, you've delighted in what it is. I understand that you have regret about the punching, but you are delighting in the fact that this has gotten this much attention, correct?
Yeah, it's a player that I literally wanted off Miami for 7 years. So for him to get a bunch of hit pieces on his way out, laughing like, you know, when he does this in the Austin Powers movie. That's how I'm feeling.
So you've been a Heat fan for 20 years and you say this is the only player whose game you ever hated. And you watched 3 years of Kyle Lowry on this team?
I did. But Lowry was— he did play crazy, but he had his moments where it was all right. There were some times where he was terrible. Yes, but he was a vet. Like, I just didn't like the way Tyler defended, his lapses on defense, his terrible shot selection. Just everything about his game just threw me off.
Now, I have read you were interviewed by Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald, and you mentioned that the decision that you made to— and I don't know how much you struggled with this decision— but the decision you made to deliver to a wider audience the private moments that you had with Tyler Herro, it was because you were mad at Tyler for pointing out how bad Bam's mid-range shooting was?
I just thought it was crazy that he was traded and he was still talking shit about his teammate. And when we had that message about Bam, After he fucked them, he started saying, no, I love them. I know I love them. It's not about them. So then I was like, why are you, why are you posting that then? If that's not about them. So then I just posted it and people were asking me to post it for months as well. And I just didn't.
Oh, so the, it was the dishonesty. It was the fact that he was being honest with you in private, but dishonest in public. That was the reason for the release.
Yeah. And I was just like, it was weird the way he would, uh, like how he would always like take like, this is that bam on his, on his Finsta. But then he told me how much he loves him, but then he's complaining about his money. It was just weird the way he was moving. I was like, yeah, I might as well post it.
What's Finsta?
It's a fake Insta. Uh, do you find any irony in being a doxxer who wants to remain anonymous and not be doxxed himself?
Yeah, it is, it is ironic.
As long as we're self-aware.
That's why I said, who's bigger?
Who's a bigger waste man?
What is a wasteman?
A wasteman is someone who's just like, uh, it's basically loser in, in, uh, in Canadian terms, kind of like that, you know. But now I would say he's a bigger wasteman.
Uh, thank you, I appreciate it, Anonymous Troll. We appreciate the time. Thank you for, uh, partaking in our investigative work.
We found the whistleblower that leaked the messages in which Tyler Herro was talking down on Bam Adebayo that led in part to the recent incident at Summer League in Las Vegas. They tell us how they came to know Tyler Herro, what their relationship was like, if he felt bad when Bam punched him, and why he hated Kyle Lowry less than Herro during their time with the Miami Heat.
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