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You want to try that again with the proper cadence in the proper places?

Um, I thought it was pretty perfect, but I will if you want.

Yeah, go ahead.

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Put it on the poll, please. @LevitardShow. If you have made RG3 RG1, have you promoted him or demoted him? Because I do think we have a totem pole situation here where the totem pole— we learned around here, if you're at the top of the totem pole, that's not where you want to be. You want to be at the bottom of the totem pole. That is a stronger position. I think we learned that. I'm still always confused by it because I thought the bottom of the totem pole is the worst place to be, and I still sort of think that. Don't you guys think?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But it, but it isn't, right?

The bottom is—

it is.

No, but I, I, is it— I think I have this wrong in terms of how the totem pole works. I've now confused myself.

Well, it's the foundation. It's holding everything up, the bottom.

That's correct. But does that mean that you want to be at the bottom of the totem pole or at the top of the totem pole?

I don't want to do the work, you know. I want to be at the— I want you to hold me. I want to be on your shoulders, right?

It's like the ladder. You don't want the bottom rung. You want the top rung.

RG3 making him RG1 is a— you said you were demoting him. I think that might be a promotion, though, if you're making him the original RG. If you make him RG5, that's a demotion. You're, you're one of the last children. You're an afterthought.

Yeah, well, 3, you know what, 1 and 2 are embarrassed by his take and 4 is potentially embarrassed if there is a 4.

He tweeted after the game, we lost because we weren't a united front as fans. We are supposed to be the United States of America, not the divided States of America.

That's so stupid.

Is it?

It's dumb.

It's awful.

Beyond stupid.

That's not why we lost? No, Trump's why we lost.

That's better.

I would say Tim Reen.

The people are mad. You cannot give the United States sports fan hope, the promise of some belief, and then take it away in that fashion where we're watching a game last night and you realize fairly early on, oh, there's no chance here to do anything.

Anything, then nothing, nothing good is gonna happen this evening.

Within the first 20 seconds, the striker for Belgium had an absolute rocket that Fries got a fingertip on. We were like, oh, this is going to be a very long game.

We were all saying to each other like 2 minutes into that game, they're gonna get one here. Like, it was just a thing.

Every living room around America was just like, yeah, bottom one, spot them, they're gonna get—

we might score and it might turn into a good game, but they're getting one here. It just feels like it.

What have you guys found on Tom Powers? Do I owe $50 for killing a Tom Powers who is still alive? I don't believe he is still alive, but what does the internet show?

We have no proof that the Tom Powers you search of has passed away. Um, we did find a Tom Powers in Minnesota who had passed away, but not of the same job, um, that you two were speaking of.

Um, the latest—

RIP to that.

Yeah, RIP to that one.

Rest in power.

Rest in powers. Um, that guy I do have an article here from 2018.

How odd for that man's family to hear us talking about him, right?

Well, I think he's gone. I don't— I think they know he's gone. Well, we don't know. Well, they do though. I think they know one way or the other. We might not know, but I think they know.

And so I either owe $50 or don't owe $50, but what information did you find on the World Wide Web about Tom Powers, who, if you're just joining us, the Minnesota Minneapolis Star Tribune columnist, famously embittered who listened to Greg Cody's personal idea of writing a book about his childhood home and the history of 1440, looked up from his bacon and said, "That sounds duller than dogshit." He couldn't have been more wrong.

And that Tom Powers was last in the news in March of 2018, with the lead of this article saying, "A well-known sports columnist went on a Twitter tirade that included telling people to go screw themselves, a comparison of Hillary Clinton to serial killers, and the use of the phrase liberal P dash dash dash dash dash S. What word do you think he meant?

My kind of guy.

Pyramids. So Seth Wickersham writes the following, and I believe his information. He's an exceptional reporter. He does a lot of good things on the Patriots, a lot of good things on football. This detail is an interesting detail. When Bill Belichick and the Patriots divorced in 2024, Sean Payton considered presenting Broncos owner Greg Penner a proposal for the ages. Hire Bill Belichick as head coach until he reaches 15 wins, enough to break Don Shula's career record of 347. Peyton would temporarily step down to assistant coach and run the offense, then move back after Belichick became the all-time leader. What does that look as we are largely an audio medium? And while that look on your face—

feel my look—

speaks volumes.

Well, it's not speaking anything. It's just total silence.

It's not— there are not volumes being spoken. There's nothing being spoken. He's just— you don't like the idea.

You think it's ridiculous.

It's an insult to Don Shula.

Yes.

I would personally do whatever it takes to make sure it doesn't happen.

It didn't happen, though.

I'm not sure exactly what I would do, but I would make sure.

It insults the integrity of everything.

I believe that Stugatz once famously claimed around here that he would do anything in his power if Dwyane Wade ever left the Miami Heat and played for another team to prevent a from being erected. That statue can be seen from our windows now of Michael Chiklis.

So I guess in some ways he did prevent it, right? That's not a statue of Dwyane Wade. It's meant to honor Dwyane Wade, but it's clearly not Dwyane Wade. And if I'm really having to consider it, I do think Stugatz's fingerprints are all over what happened across the street.

He got to the sculptor. That's what it was. Paid off the sculptor, said, hey, Here's a picture of Michael Ciclis. Put this on.

Tony, are you headed across the street here to find out whether or not you can buy, still buy, a number 34 Antetokounmpo jersey? That's going to be a collector's item. And I dare say, do I have this right? I must have this right. If you buy any of these things as memorabilia investment, the 34 is going to be worth more than the 7, correct?

I completely disagree. I think it's worth Nothing. It's, it's the wrong jersey. He's never— he will never worn that jersey number with the Miami Heat.

That's why though it would be a collector's item, you know, 50 years from now somebody's going to hold up that jersey and they're going to be like, how does this—

how did this get made?

This is the official NBA logo. They are very careful about how it is that the copyrights on all that stuff work, so you can't make knockoffs.

Somebody's gonna have to explain, well, Giannis was on a stream with Neon and then he told Neon he actually wanted number 7, not number 34, in which the Heat had to change all their jerseys from number 7 to number 34.

You're allowed to custom make your jersey, alright, on the NBAStore.com or even at the arena, okay? And so if I went on to NBAStore.com and I made an Antetokounmpo jersey and I put in number 4, that's a collector's item now?

No, because he never wore that jersey or intended to.

That's right, that's right, Chris. Because he never wore that jersey.

34 was his number with the Bucks.

I'm sorry, is the jersey that Tony's gonna go pick up, does it say Bucks or Heat on it?

You sound like a fool right now. Your son does memorabilia too. This is a bad look for you. Your son would be embarrassed right now by you.

There's a story behind Heat, Antetokounmpo, and 34. There's not with the number 4. That's why it's a collector's item.

There's no story.

Yes, there is.

They printed out a jersey that is wrong, right? And how is worth anything.

Okay, so it's tantamount to a mistake, right? That also creates a collector's item. If you have a Hank Aaron baseball card and they misspell Hank Aaron, that's a collector's item.

So you think that one day someone shows up to an auction with a Miami Heat Antetokounmpo 34 jersey, people are going to bid actual dollars on that?

Yes.

No chance.

If the Heat had made a bunch of James 23 jerseys when LeBron first came here, before he decided to change to number 6. You don't think that those would now be collector's items?

Why?

Of course they would. Never wore— it's just a— it's a jersey that never existed. It's a wrong number on the jersey.

Let's hear Antetokounmpo on with the aforementioned Neon here talking about this jersey switch. Would you ever change your number?

I think—

I think, yeah.

Seriously?

To what? I haven't decided yet, but I don't think it's gonna be the same number. This year you're changing your number?

Yeah.

Oh, that's hard.

You know, look, imagine number 7. That's not a bad number.

I'm gonna take that.

You're gonna use number 7?

You want me to?

Yes!

Huh? There it is.

That's the formality of the arrangement. He took Ray Allen's number 34 in Milwaukee. Maybe he didn't want to do that again in Miami. Do we have an explanation for why it is that he is changing the number? Uh, the— Greg, can you explain something to me? I'm sorry, I'm gonna— I got distracted. You're promoting something with such small type that I don't believe anybody can read what's on the screen that you're trying to promote.

Ridiculous.

It's so small that that is not— so you need to make bigger type for CodyCup. TheGregCodyShow.com. Uh, visit often. Greg versus Chris versus Yeti scorecard updates with every World Cup result.

And then an unneeded exclamation point to give off some sort of enthusiasm that no one actually has for what it is, for what it is that's being done there.

How's all that going there?

This, this—

don't say the amount of views. He does this thing where he's like, it's gotten X amount of views, and it's not as impressive as he thinks.

He hates it when I give a number. How about this? I'll just say that it— we've had visitors from, from all 50 states and 21 countries. It's been very successful. I mean, it, it was Yeti's idea. Credit to him. It's a website. I'm very—

I think Yeti would like larger type to promote that website though than the type that you're using that requires viewers of television to both question their eyesight and get up closer to the television. Like, you have to really get up close to the television to see how small that type is.

It's smaller than Jeremy writes on his whiteboard.

I don't know why we're afflicted as a media company with people who use fonts that are way too small.

I mean, I'm a trendsetter.

There's a story behind that. Cody Cupp thegregcodyshow.com. When I tried to make that the next size up, it broke into two lines. So that's the, the biggest font I could have that made it one line. So there was a method to my madness.

It's because your name is too long. Like, not your name, Greg Cody. No, the website's name is way too long. I can't read it from here.

Gary Long.

Cody Cupp.

Right.

Gary Long. Former Miami Herald writer Gary Long.

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Tony, you know that moment at a party or a tailgate where everything just sort of clicks?

I know it well. It's usually when I show up, everybody goes crazy.

Yeah, you usually take all the credit for it, but It's because Tony usually walks in with Cuervo.

I walk in like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Cuervo is a thing that turns hanging out into this is the night.

It has that effect on people.

It does. You usually take the credit for it, but again, it's the Cuervo effect. It's like that moment in a big game where everyone in the crowd just starts standing up, hooting and hollering.

Keep it Cuervo!

Keep it Cuervo, baby.

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Please stay on top of whether or not Tom Powers is alive or not. I want to know before the end of the show here whether or not I owe $50. I was saying yesterday I get fined $50 for killing anyone who's not dead. It's the largest fine allowable around here. I was saying yesterday that in the history of the Boston Celtics, they have never been laughed at the way that they were laughed at for everything involving Jayson Tatum. And Brad Stevens yesterday did come out and say what I was telling you, Zazz, that they have a problem with 70% of their payroll being locked up into players. Uh, when they won the championship, that was 46% of their payroll, and so they could fill out the roster with needed players like Jrue Holiday and Chris stops Porzingis and an assortment of others who made it a championship roster. But something that's happening now in the sport that's interesting. And when you have a bunch of competitive people and they're all looking for winning in the margins and the salary cap makes it so you're otherwise pretty equal, it's very hard. I, I— in baseball, the Rays and Marlins are doing stuff organizationally with base stealing, with plate discipline.

They're doing an assortment of things that aren't just home runs. And aren't just the strategy of how do we line up our players on the field based to tend— based on tendencies. It's how do we give value to something that is undervalued throughout the sport. There are two things happening right now in basketball as a reaction to not just OKC and the Spurs and their youth, but as a reaction as to the fact that the sport is physically breaking its players. So all of a sudden you have money going to centers out of nowhere. The center is now being valued in a way that made it feel like the center was going to go extinct. And more relevantly, teams are choosing depth. You got to go 10 deep because your guys are going to get hurt. Like, you're guaranteed for your guys to get hurt because everybody's guys are hurt. And you lost billions of dollars in salary last year, lost games that weren't played by people who were collecting their salary anyway. And so now the shift becomes we need to go 10 deep.

We need—

we cannot have 70% of our roster in this. This is a danger that the Heat presently have, the way that they're structured. You can say a couple of things about this. This one's interesting to me. If you want to analyze what's been happening at the top of the Eastern Conference before last year, I'm going to say the previous 5 years before that, Boston and Miami were at the top of the conference in the bubble. You had Tatum being blocked at the rim by Adebayo. And at that moment, that was the difference between those two teams. And since then, the Boston Celtics have done a better architecture job than the Miami Heat, as the Miami Heat have fallen further and further behind. So the last act of the Miami Heat was an act of understandable desperation, but it's desperation, and it's still playing behind the way the game is changing. Everyone's laughing at the Celtics right now, but they're getting out ahead of the fact, hey, our rosters have to be 10 deep and that money needs to be spread out. It cannot be locked up in just a couple of guys while the Heat are going the other way.

They're like, nope, we're going to lock it up in a couple of guys and we're going to be okay with the fact that one of them is 31 years old. And if not brittle, he's being questioned about his health after last year. People are thinking that Giannis, his best days are behind him, that his prime is in the rearview mirror, and that they've just done something that's not merely desperate, but also behind the way the game's about to be played in terms of structure.

I agree with you. Except for this. I do think that he's sort of trying to play both sides and looking at depth with recent signings like Bobby Portis and Tim Hardaway Jr., who are both classic sixth-man type players.

I think when you say— and, you know, Brad Stevens explained how two players, 70% of the cap, they want to get out in front of that. I think that makes sense. Matter of fact, I mean, last week I spoke about, you know, when there were Kawhi Leonard rumors here, how It would be a bad idea if the Heat went after Kawhi Leonard. I got tremendous pushback from the room over there, but it's because of this, and I think you're leaving out an unless. You can't have 70% of your cap being taken up between two players unless the player is worth that money, unless the value is there. And Brad Stevens is telling you It's not— it's not telling you can't have two players take up 70%. He's saying we can't have these two players take up 70% when one of the players is Giannis. Hence why the Celtics tried to trade for Giannis. It's okay to have two players take up that much percent.

So let's listen here to Brad Stevens explain about the sleepless nights and how much this one is ravaging him.

The unbelievable way we've played in the regular season in the last couple years. You know, the path looked a little bit more challenging to me. I might be wrong. I'm not going to stand up here and be defensive about that. But the path looked a little bit more challenging with 70% of our cap and such a high percent of our usage tied into two players. And the reality in this era and in this day and age of the NBA, and you could see it obviously with with the last couple of champions and some of the teams that were at the very top of the league when it was all said and done at the end of this year is that, you know, you have to do a great job and you have to have the optionality to do a great job of building out depth that can hopefully replace the irreplaceable individual.

I'm going to say this again because I think it merits underlining. The Boston Celtics in their storied history have never been laughed at for a transaction the way they're presently being laughed at for this one. Here's Brad Stevens talking more specifically about Jaylen Brown.

Jaylen said that he felt disrespected by this trade process and he wished more had been explained to him. I know you're talking about trying to be as upfront and communicative with him as possible throughout this, but do you wish at all that either you handled process differently, or there was anything on your side that was not conveyed to him that you wish you had in hindsight?

I think I already answered that earlier with Jay, but I would just say, I'll just repeat that, you know, I'm hopeful that we can sit down and talk about that at some point. But, uh, you know, I'm sorry that he feels that way.

One of the reasons they're being laughed at is I think I can, uh, construe an argument for the Sixers before that trade feeling like if they were gonna have to get rid of Paul George, they would have had to staple a first-round pick just to get rid of him, that they would have had to give something else. So, so essentially all you got was a little bit better than that. Anywhere they would have sent Paul George, they might have had to give somebody a first-round pick in order to take that contract. But let's talk for a second about, um, the word you used— value. In a salary-capped sport, I'm competing against you and I have no money advantages. The salary cap has altered so much of this, and it's, it's happening faster and faster. The Celtics are now owned by hedge fund people, and hedge funds are like locusts eating cornfields in terms of just grabbing efficiencies and stealing the soul, the soul from things. The greatest advantages in football, for example, is having a quarterback at value on the rookie quarterback scale, because then you can fill out your roster with an assortment of things.

Jaylen Brown went from not many people objecting to him getting the supermax, as to 3 years later, that's a bad contract. It's a bad contract that wouldn't be known as a bad contract by everyone if the Celtics hadn't just made it known. Like, I don't believe people were reporting the idea that 7th, uh, highest paid player in the league, Jaylen Brown, was a bad contract until this deal got made. That's not something that people people were saying.

Well, I think, I think you also have to point out where Jaylen Brown signed that deal 2 years ago, I believe it was, right? Well, this new CBA only started 3 years ago, so it was only a year into where this new deal from Jaylen Brown was signed. We have more information now as far as how the CBA and the new salary cap has affected team building. So I think that plays a part.

Yes, it does play a part. But the part that I find more interesting about this is that Brad Stevens was viewed 3 years ago as being ahead of the curve, and now he's being laughed at the way no executive in the history of the Boston Celtics has been laughed at. That happened pretty fast. Like, that, that the numbers and however it is they're doing the accounting in the sport changed pretty quickly on a guy that we were saying 3 years ago, oh look, he's past Pat Riley, he knows how to build teams better than Pat Riley, he just built a champion, and he just gave Jaylen Brown a supermax that he had to give him. There, there would have been no one in our audience after coming off of a Finals MVP who would have said, yeah, you don't give him that money, you let him you let him walk, you, you risk him being unhappy. Everyone said you have to give him that money at that time. How does that change that quickly?

How does it—

how does the sport move so quickly that Brad Stevens essentially won a championship by reinventing it? It's fairly unprecedented what you're looking at. That town is crazy, right? Theo Epstein won, uh, won as a 30-year-old, 34-year-old, and Brad Stevens went from, nah, don't want Red Auerbach's Don't want to be just the coach. Want to be the guy who's the general manager and then wins the title and now is being laughed at. That to me is crazy.

Well, I think there's a couple of things that we need to add for context as well. Why he's getting this reaction. Number one is you traded this player for Paul George, who most people believe is not a very good player anymore. So that plays a role in him getting laughed at as, hold on, that's what you got for Jalen Paul George, the player who I still believe the Sixers, if they could have gotten rid of him and gotten nothing in return— I'm not talking about nothing like lesser players, I'm talking about legitimately nothing— I think the Philadelphia 76ers would have done it. So that's why Brad Stevens is getting laughed at, but also because what preceded this the week prior, the idea that the Celtics now would rather have Paul George and Hugo González and Baylor Shireman rather than Giannis. Like they weren't willing to give up those ancillary players who both started Game 7 and scored zero points.

Are you sure?

Yeah.

I think it's ancillary.

No, it isn't.

Alright, I'll do it now just to appease you. But both those two players, Shireman and Gonzalez, scored zero points in their Game 7 loss. And you'd rather have those two and Paul George than Giannis? Yeah, you're getting laughed at.

You wanna try that word again?

Ancillary. They're ancillary pieces.

No, they're not. They're ancillary.

I, I gotta—

I might have to look into that. I don't know if you're right about that.

I don't think that you know how to be communicative.

Communicative.

Little stumble there.

I did.

I was setting up Roy for the joke there. Instead of communicative, I said communicative. It's communicative.

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Greg, help us out here. Have you ever heard communicative?

Communicative?

I've heard both.

Really?

Yeah. Unlike ancillary, I think that's a word that actually allows—

You're thinking of artillery?

Are you sure it's ancillary?

No, I'm not. I'm sure it's ancillary.

It's ancillary. You keep doing this wrong. Are you doing artillery? What is happening here?

It's not—

it is ancillary. It's not ancillary.

Okay, I got a problem now because I've been saying ancillary into a microphone for many years.

Wow.

Okay, but it is not. It's a fact that it is not.

No one's corrected you all these years?

It is surprising that you are using that word that incorrectly.

If no one else has corrected me, I mean, wouldn't that lead lead me to believe that you're wrong.

Doesn't make it right.

That would be how you would climb the logic ladder to arrive at you being right and the rest of us being wrong. But not everyone else is wrong. I've never heard the word pronounced the way that you're pronouncing it. It's the first time I have. You ever heard it pronounced that way?

Silly. It's ridiculous. Laughable.

Greg, do you have your catchphrases ready? Do you have your list of top 70 catchphrases of all time?

Yes.

Get for me, please, your father's top Top 6 episodes of all time.

Oh, please don't.

And top and bottom 6 episodes of all time. Excuse me. So go ahead. What do you mean, don't do that?

I mean, that's why people are flocking to my latest episode is to hear those top 6.

50 states, all 50 states and 21 nations.

No. Yeah, exactly. Thank you.

Number 70.

Number 70. I'm fuller than Vern Fuller. 69. Where's my click click? 68. Hey, Butterfinger.

Yep.

67, punt. 66, Scranton. 65, I'm busier than a one-armed paper hanger. 64, Georgia, Georgia. 63, I'm the kind of guy that's— 62, ballin' the jack. 61, hey hey with the Monkees, baby. 60, thank you, Billy. 59, I love 'em like a pet. 58, who made it a salad? 57, we're rollin' now, huh? 56, your brain beatin' me. 55, let's go States. 54, driver comfort is paramount. 53, dummy up, save up. 52, catch as catch can. 51, doesn't make it right. 50, so on and so forth. 49, very good. 48, the Little League theory. 47, nice hat, asshole. 46, the others, they all learn from me. 45, don't go showering to try to please me. 44, look at that jerk. 43, it's like a packing house in here. 42, what'd you learn? 41. Hee-haw, 3, ba-day-up.

40.

I'm not gonna take a quiz. 39. Sassafras. 38. Would we break a window? 37. Hello. 36. Who won? 35. Trailers for sale or rent. 34. You gotta eat a peck of dirt before you die. 33. 3 words: we are the Lobos. 32. You're gonna go to Buffalo. With Bernie. Pomely, 31. Rappycack, 30. Another Crisis Solved, 29. Nice chatting with you, 28. He ain't heavy, he's my blank, 27. Hey, that's what I'm talking about, 26. Who let a pet, 25. Good on ya, 24. Dancing Swords, 23. QK, quick crap, 22. Bye, 21. Blankin' it, 20. That's a fact, Jack and 19. Gotta wanna earn, gotta wanna learn.

Now we have the new 2 from this week. We are into the top 20, even though I thought we were almost done with the bottom half of the top 20. We were at number 11, now we are at number 18.

Yeah, there's rumors, unconfirmed, that the final countdown may expand from 70 to 75. I have not said that. I do not condone it. It's just a rumor I'm reporting. So next week on the Greg Cody Show, we will reveal numbers 18 and 17.

What do you mean next week? What about this week?

Uh, we skipped the Catchphrase Countdown this week because it was a— it was a special episode with the, the listener who listened to our entire back catalog to come up with a top 6 and a bottom 6 all-time episodes.

Otherwise known as we recorded that episode 6 months ago so we could take this week off.

Yeah, it wasn't quite 6 months ago—

Oh, Fourth of July?

Yeah, that kind of thing.

Haha!

Yeah, tsugaki.

We just forgot to do the catch-up.

So wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait...

Are you not only denying us a refreshed number 18 and number 17 that updates the list that used to be at number 12 and number 11 but somehow we keep going backwards? You're not only denying us that, you're also not allowing us to talk about that episode that you did that ref— that references references the rankings of your top 6 and bottom 6 episodes of all time?

No, I love talking about it. Thank you. Let's keep talking about it.

Well, you just said—

where's the update?

Okay, the update is not available because it hasn't been out yet. It hasn't been revealed.

Let's put it out.

It's going to be revealed next Monday on my next episode.

Give us one. Give the listener— give this audience one of those at least, and you can give the two on your podcast. But we're expecting something every week here by way of update. That's why we we just did what we just did where you read the other 50.

The other 70. It's not the other 50, you're right.

Um, I mean, you, you have the top 20, like, you, you know what the phrases are.

No, I don't. They're, they're a week-by-week list.

No, no, that's not what I'm asking. You, you, like, you have— the list is done, right?

You have— no, no, it isn't.

You're still making the list.

You don't know what number 18 is as we sit here? That's not true.

I don't, Greg. It could be.

I won't read— I won't read it out loud, but let me see your list.

Let me see, because it stops at 19.

You brain beat me.

He is brain beating me.

That's not the next one. That's just—

it's true, it's not on here.

Thank you.

No way.

It's not updated, but it's on like your files on your computer.

He knows what the next one is.

I do not know what the next one is. I have for the final night— the contenders for the final 18 include about 25, 27 possibilities.

So hold on a second. So the final couple of new entries —of the final 18, you're going to pick the final 18 of a possible 25 or 20-some entries. Right. So 7 could be left out of your list altogether, but they are possibly good enough to be in the top 25.

Yeah, that spawns the rumor that the list may grow from 70 to a final 75, which has not been confirmed yet. I have to admit, this list has gone on a bit longer than originally anticipated.

Aren't you the person who could confirm the rumor?

Yeah, well, it is an eponymous podcast. I don't know what that word means. In other words, my name is in it, implying that I'm the boss of the podcast. So yeah, but I have input. Your name's in it twice.

The Greg Cody Show featuring Greg Cody.

With Greg Cody, right. And I think I'm the only podcast that does that, which makes me very proud. Surprised there haven't been a bunch of imitators.

My wife asked me that the other day when I said The Greg Cody Show featuring Greg Cody. She then said, "Why is his name in it twice?" Yeah, what'd you say? Just like, I don't have time to explain this bullshit.

Good answer, actually.

Chris, where are we with— I don't care about his top 6 episodes all time of The Greg Cody Show featuring Greg Cody. With. But I would be interested in the worst 6 episodes, because I imagine that both you and Yeti take some inventory of your life and are made a little bit sad when you think about those 6 episodes. Very sad. All right, so give us Uh, yes. Can we do this?

Can we compromise here? Can Christopher give you the two— two of the worst six of his choosing? In other words, this can be number six or number one. Don't even say the numbers. Just say two of the six.

If you want to negotiate, we can, but it will be in exchange for a catchphrase update.

Well, we don't have the catchphrase.

Let's just start here. I'll do two of them and then we'll see where we're at and see if you want to reveal more. I feel like you'll be okay with it. Okay. The number 6 worst episode according to Steve, our listener who listened to all 350+ episodes of our podcast history. He says the, the 6th worst episode in 2020, episode 20, the ESPN employee who had COVID. And this was like the start of COVID We found some guy at ESPN, really nice guy. I don't even wanna say his name. I don't wanna do that to him. Very nice guy. And we were just like, We found a guy.

It was so misleading. It implied that Stephen A. Smith was on and then it was—

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Explain to me the work.

Just be like, so what happened? And he's like, I got pretty sick.

Who was he again?

We don't have to say his name. Okay, but wait, why?

Why? It was like a low—

it was like a tech guy at ESPN. Just a guy I met in Bristol, stayed in contact with, and then we were doing the podcast and it just became— I became aware that he had COVID. I was like, We found— I know someone who has COVID. Let's talk to him.

Okay. So this is— this is close to investigative journalism. Is this as close to Pablo Torre finds out as your— I know it's a forerunner.

Was that a headline?

So you have 5 worse than this. It wasn't a headline. No one picked up on it. It was not ground zero of COVID It was just some guy. That's exactly right. It wasn't— it wasn't the first known carrier of COVID It was just somebody at Disney. And by the way, I will never not laugh at the way that the the ESPN and Disney protocol, sent us back to work with hand sanitizers. All right, you're good. Here, we've been preparing for this. We've been preparing for a pandemic. Here's a cheap $9 machine that spews goo. Uh, you guys will be fine. Uh, what is, what is another, uh, of the terribly, uh, the historically terrible episodes?

Number 5. In 2024, episode 209, the Ed Newman interview.

Oh yeah, God, I had to fight for that one.

He wanted to put that, that guy on so bad.

Former Dolphins center Ed Newman has been a—

oh, sorry, yes, former Dolphins guard Ed Newman.

He made it worse somehow. He made it worse because center would have been more relevant, but no, he downgraded it immediately.

And he's right, he's become a lawyer. Yes. No, he's a judge, I think.

He used to be, he retired.

Well, a boring quote for all of his years, and he didn't change.

Yeah, no.

And Greg arguing on behalf of let's have Ed Newman on.

That was one of those things where he got the pitch from the— he was releasing a book or something, and it's like, hey, have Ed Newman on. And I'm like, no. And my dad's like, we got to do it, Dolphin legend.

Yeah, we went through an unfortunate phase where we had on a lot of authors, and I also had to get over the idea that it has to be a sportsy podcast involving local athletes, and thankfully I've got no—

you guys made fun of Jalen Brunson and downgraded him because he had hairy shoulders. In the history of South Florida sports, I associate two men more than any other men with being hairy: Ed Newman and Tim Ruddy. Oh, shout out to Tim Ruddy.

Yeah, that's a good one.

That guy had a fur coat of pubic hair on the front of his body. The pubic hair went all the way up from the pubic area, all the way up, and was just a fur—

there was no gap there.

It was just— it was very hairy.

I remember you could see his hair like when he was in uniform and in pads with a helmet on. Like, it would— like the little space on his neck in between, like his jersey, unusually hairy.

And I downgraded his athleticism because of— because he didn't whack— because he didn't take care of any of that. It was too— it was too hairy. Uh, I need the rest of this list. Give me the rest of this list.

Uh, give me 2 more.

Give me, give me another. Okay, 2 more.

Give me another 2. Episode 52, the Moss 5 episode with terrible audio. We tried to make an episode out of a Moss Miami and it was so loud and it was just like no one could hear it. We got so many complaints. It was just because of our production. That was the worst episode.

Yeah, you guys forgot that in order to produce things as a media entity, talk to me, Greg.

It was unlistenable. That was the toenail episode.

For those of you who do not know what the toenail episode was, who would need some context, a line that stretched thousands of people long went to go see Greg Cody's rotten toenail in a glass— I'm not making that up.

Yeah, it was in a glass case.

It was in a glass case, and the line— it's the longest line we've ever had for anything.

And what happens? People just take a look and then they keep moving?

Yeah, get a photo for the right price. Selfie.

There, there used to be before that a long line for, uh, watching the video of Greg Cody drunkenly falling in the bushes while his son exploited him for content. That was the longest previous line before the toenail was taken off. I believe it was cut by Stugatz, was it not?

It was, and he pinched me. He drew blood.

Love him anyway.

Uh, give me another of the worst episodes in the history of The Greg Cody Show featuring Greg Number 2, episode 53 in 2022, Dave Barry loses patience with Chris for interrupting him.

We have Dave on once a year, and he and Christopher awkwardly— it was great actually because it was so awkward, but Christopher was interrupting him so much.

Not best for my timing, that episode.

That Dave Barry actually got angry, like out of character.

I've never seen Pulitzer Prize winner, uh, Dave Barry, a famously affable man, angry. I've never seen that. It would take your son being so unprofessional. And he was. I need these other two. I need, I need the rest of this.

One more, one more.

Leave number one, leave number one unsaid. Okay, number 4, 2023 episode 195, the post-Thanksgiving episode where Greg and Chris fought a lot. I seem to be at the problem with a lot of this.

Yeah.