Transcript of Dan Le Batard is the World's Greatest Empath | Hour 1

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Chris Cody is very eager to bother me by trying to inflame radio wars with Philadelphia radio. Because he says there's some sound here that I'm gonna wanna hear.

What'd he say?

We'll find out in a second together, but I just, I wanna step back from what it is we just did there with Pablo and just ask you guys, do you find it like funny, strange? Are you taking inventory of the idea of FIFA over here, we're gonna buy the World Cup as the Trumps, and Ballmer over here can say bullshit, bullshit, bullshit to your rules 'cause he's just got more money than everybody else. And we're still getting Tennessee linebacker Arian Carter 2 games for a flight you took for $427. Uh, you took money from an agent. Like, I thought we weren't doing that anymore. I thought— I don't know, I don't know how this— this costs you 2 games now in today's— like, that's professional football.

We're all—

we all understand that, right? The whole college thing, it's professional sports. So if an agent buys a flight for a kid, what now, 2 games? We're finding that funny? Weird? Are we taking inventory of the fact that, that, I mean, yesterday when we're talking to Master about this FIFA scandal, we're talking about late-stage capitalism. What it looks like is, yeah, the guys at the top just grabbed the World Cup and the others—

Is that why this is here?

Yes.

Yes.

Yes. I mean, was watching the fall of democracy yesterday and laughing at the idea that it would come to sports and we'd be horrified, trying to protect the pearls and sanctity of sports now as— yeah. Trump's family's just gonna come over. Yeah, give me 20% of the World Cup for one of the kids.

We ruined it. We ruined it all. But the, uh, the idea of someone having NCAA violation for a round-trip ticket worth $400 is like, to me, obviously you guys live in Florida, is different. But I live in Arizona where weed has been legal for years and years. The idea of getting arrested for possession of a joint like that, what are you talking about?

I don't know how anybody gets in trouble anymore these days. All you have to do is appeal and you win, Mike.

But I just thought that that a news story so that anyone can only have the opinion, we're still doing this? We're still doing two games because you took a flight from an agent? Like, hasn't that flight flown? Like, I wanted to say ship sailed, but we're using flights now. Like, I really did think that the only purpose of that story is for everybody to go like, wait, really? Do I have it wrong, Sash? You're a college football expert.

It could have been a bus.

That's a good point. It could have.

It's happened.

Chris Cody, what is the Philadelphia sound? And I'd really like to start choosing better enemies around here.

Isn't it R&B?

Yeah, I believe. Was it the Spinners? They were like Philadelphia.

Hall and Oates, famously.

Yeah. 97.5 The Fanatic, Dan. Midday with Marks. John Marks and his co-host were talking about you. I would describe what you're about to hear as Follow me on this. A compliment sandwich. Now, Doug in the middle here, sandwiched in the middle, is a compliment. Okay. But the bread it's served on is disrespect. Let's play it.

Can Pablo Torre—

can he investigate why Dan LeBretard is so insufferable? Might be a short investigation.

God, I just—

every time I hear him, that stupid bucket, that stupid hat with the big brim and the whatever that he used to wear. It looked like it was his '90s, uh, sprayed. God, I, I can't stand him.

Yeah.

And he's brilliant, by the way. Like, I'm not, I'm not trying to take away from you.

I think he's lost his fastball, but he's gotten fat.

Wait, that guy? Bag of the week.

I will say, in that guy's defense, he does go on to be like, I mean, with his words, I, look at me, I can't call anyone fat. Oh, okay, good.

Because, yeah, you can't.

I cut that part out though because it was funnier.

You can't because that guy absolutely wears what he's wearing in that still. To the pool.

You know, I— guys, I, I'm not gonna put up with some couple of yahoos up in Philadelphia talking shit about our guy. To hell with you. Having said that, the line, could you investigate, and it would be a short investigation— that's funny. Yeah, that's comedy, Dan. And you can't hate on comedy.

And Dan's actually lost a lot of weight, stress weight, because of the brother that painted the hat that you criticized that he doesn't wear anymore.

Uh, put it on the poll at Levitard Show. More insufferable Dan Levitard or Philadelphia radio guy? Uh, put it on the poll as well. Uh, fatter man.

This is anybody's race.

Fatter.

Yeah, I know.

Fatter Dan Levitard or Philadelphia radio guy? Just put both of those on, on the poll. Um, the, the, the criticism I think is fair. I have gotten fat with words because we're fighting Bulmer and I can't do two jobs at once.

How did the other guy feel when the guy was like fat flat-brimmed, big, oversized 1990s cap, and he's just sitting there taking it.

But enough about, enough about you. On to Dan Levitorn.

I told you guys, I took great delight in New York that the only thing following me after a lifetime of insecurity about my weight is somebody pointing and shouting, "W-F-A-T!" I'm like, I really took that insult and made it my own. Like, here I am in New York, the big city. I practically jumped up in the air and clicked my heels with a parasol. I'm fat.

And then they had an earthquake. Oh, it happened.

And because I jumped up in the air with a parasol and then they had—

I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to make that connection. I was just saying New York City had an earthquake.

All right, so I want to ask you guys, all of you, something, the audience included, because, uh, obviously Tony Romo, uh, These are not the moments that you want to be defined by, uh, when the video comes out that's embarrassing, and it'll be about as embarrassed as Tony Romo will ever be in public. So there are plenty of— what do you— there are plenty of jokes here around, uh, what it is that this video is, but I also feel bad anytime someone is publicly embarrassed like this and becomes a laughingstock when they're in a position of a great celebrity. And so we have video, TMZ, it's going to be very popular video, and I don't know if it is right to play it. I don't know if it is right to play with this, but when you go from just the printed report of something that looks like DUI and then you get the comedy, okay, of an old football player not knowing where he quite is during the day and his back hurts and he's got to stretch and he doesn't know if he's going to file a field sobriety test. All of that is something that to me, I feel embarrassed for Tony Romo.

But when I come in today, Zazz just exclaims, and I've never heard him do this, I hear from the other part of the room, Zazz says, "Oh no!" And I thought like an anaconda had seized him or something horrible had happened. And I'm like, "What happened?" And his response is, Tony Romo's grandparents have been dead for many years. And so what do I do with this story?

Well, now you gotta play the video.

You gotta play it now.

But when I'm embarrassed for Tony Romo—

You just say it on the front end, but then gratuitously still play it.

That's how you do it.

That's how you do it.

Also, I don't believe that you feel bad about anyone.

You just wonder aloud, "Man, I don't know, I have my reservations about this." But really, that's just to buy yourself credibility, moral credibility with an audience when you were gonna play it the entire time. But what if I don't play it?

But what if I decide now not to play it?

No, you gotta play it now because you've You've set up expectation.

It's queued up, I can see it on the preview monitor.

Yeah, we gotta play it now.

No, but I could make a moral stand here instead and deny that it's virtue signaling and deny the audience. Who's my responsibility?

I'll be Zeus in The Dark Knight. I'm gonna do what you should have done 10 minutes ago.

We've gotten fat.

You go Zeus instead of Deebo?

I go Zeus.

Yeah, I go Deebo.

Oh really? You're a wrestling mark.

I know, but like Deebo is so much more powerful than Zeus.

Have you ever seen the promo? Video team, let's see if we can find the promo. I'm sorry to do this, but it's hugely important. There is a promo with Sensational Sherry, Macho King Randy Savage, and Zeus behind the old school square blue steel cage. And it is the most cocaine-y thing I have ever seen in my entire life.

I love those old—

and I've seen a lot of cocaine-y things.

Uh, it's a video team. I'm sorry to do this to you. Is as cocaine-y of a thing has ever happened around here.

Incredible.

Yeah, but this one comes up on YouTube. Pablo eating pickled pig's feet, that's a little tougher.

There have been two lies told in this hour. One, video team, I feel sorry to make you do this. That's a lie. And then Dan saying I feel bad about playing videos of people being embarrassed. That's a lie.

Okay, no, this kind of embarrassed where it's the worst defining moment of your life. I'll play a guy getting embarrassed because he's fallen down.

You can tell without sound how cocaine-y this is, and this isn't even the one that I'm talking about. This is like— they're, they're not—

she's full of the madness. What do you mean, what is she doing?

Oh yeah, no, this isn't even—

cream of the crop—

this isn't even the one I'm talking about because there's a Blue Steel cage. We'll get on it.

I do a good Zeus.

You absolutely never feel bad.

Do cross your eyes.

I mean, I don't want to play the video. I don't. I, I, uh, have avoided most of it until Zazz said, oh no. And then I realized that because of what Zazz was exclaiming, what his excuse was, something grandparent related. I don't know what his excuse is.

You can't do that. Oh, okay, we got— we have to play the video.

Why don't we just describe the Explain to people why it is I heard the "oh no" because I had not heard the video.

Yeah, like he gets pulled over. I'm sorry to do this to video team, but we got to play the video now.

Okay.

You're not sorry either. That's 3 lies in less than a minute.

I don't know why I said I'm sorry. I'm not sorry at all.

Guys, we are approaching the anniversary of SummerSlam 1989, where Zeus and the Macho King entered a steel cage match against Hulk Hogan and Brutus the Barber King.

That's right. And you're probably saying to yourself, wow, I can't believe Brutus the Beefcake was in a main event. Yes, he was.

He was Hulk Hogan's best friend.

He was.

That's how he got that chance.

Dan, I'm going to SummerSlam tomorrow night.

You sit here to tell me that let's describe the video. You think that's a good idea instead of just showing it?

Uh, the reason, uh, that if we describe it, it's going to lead to less laughter is because the video, I'm assuming, embarrasses him more than even the details.

Did you see Earl Hebner take control of that match? Sensational Sherri was up to no good with that steel cage door, and Earl Hebner was having none of it.

I'll tell you what a gem that Sensational Sherri was. I miss her.

Do you remember when Earl Hebner had an evil twin brother?

Of course, Dave Hebner.

Dabe, how much did—

how much did they spend on the plastic surgery? Damn, how much did they spend?

Dan, we're not the only ones who played this video. TMZ's— sorry, got a little bit more reach than we do. So us playing this video is not exactly going to be the thing that makes Tony Romo feel like, oh my God, I feel betrayed.

What's fair?

What's fair?

You already did the thing where you're like, I don't feel good about this, and so just play it. You did it. That's what you did it.

We did.

No one can all sit it out.

I really do think the shame of us saying it, it like the video is not that much worse than just saying, well, I did not know about the grandparents being dead for 20 years.

Well, how are you?

The video is hilarious. I'm sorry. It's hilarious. Look, this is— look, I don't want to ever, ever, ever get a DUI.

That's a good, good take.

But if I do, I hope the video is as hilarious as this.

Wow.

Like, I don't want— because there are a lot of times where it's sad. Like the Tiger Woods one, that was sad. I was like, goddamn, this isn't sad.

Yeah, right. I was just on the phone with the president.

Yeah, this one's funny, man.

Say you're sad for Tony Romo.

This is good.

This isn't sad.

I read awful announcing. Didn't you fire him yesterday?

You fired Tony Romo?

No, I said that if they want to get out from under that contract, this kind of embarrassment can get you fired.

Yeah, you're just asking the questions again.

I'm telling you how to think.

What's unfair? Wait a minute, what's unfair about that? Doesn't that seem like— if you embarrass your company publicly, it's a fireable offense sometimes, depending on how much they do or don't want you around.

You know you want to play the video.

I'll tell you, I was watching Zeus as a kid because it was right after No Holds Barred came out. I'm like, holy shit, they got the real Zeus. All right, because I don't know if you saw No Holds Barred, it's, it's not a great movie, but they got Zeus to come and be in the main event of SummerSlam.

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Zus looks like Deebo.

I know, that is Deebo.

No, Jesus, you guys are that dumb.

Play the video.

Well, I live in Dallas, so I came in to visit Grandpa and Grandpa, so we're here. I'm hoping to get that, but I got the core. You got the what? The core, you said?

Yeah, that's what it is for your CrossFit?

Yeah. Yes, I got what you're saying.

And you were coming from Grandma and Grandpa?

What did you say? It's really hard to hear you, dude. I can't hear you either.

Yeah, I know.

We got to basically yell at each other, right?

I'm yelling at you.

Okay.

All right. Where are you coming from?

The golf course. And I'm going to meet Grandma and Grandpa. Okay. All right. I wasn't laughing at him. I'm laughing at the wrestling video in the corner that's playing.

I'm watching.

I'm trying to concentrate on it on a vid. On a video I'm seeing and hearing for the first time. I'm trying to consume what he's saying, and then I truly am mortified when he says grandma and grandpa when I've already got the knowledge from Zazz's Oh No that that is something that died 20 years ago. And so he's— I'm trying to hear— did I hear golf course? Because I got distracted by the cocaine wrestling. That is not an acceptable thing to do when I'm consuming. I'm genuine when I'm telling you I don't want to embarrass this man publicly. Play the video for for me. Let me watch the video. And then what happens? Wrestling videos that are meant to distract me.

In that entire video, he also explains to the, uh, the officer that pulled him over that he's just coming back from the golf course, and he tries to name-drop a USGA amateur event as if it means anything, which got me thinking. Top 5 worst places you could tell an officer you were before being pulled over on suspicion of a DUI.

O-L-I.

So wait, I didn't hear that part because I was distracted by the rest.

We didn't play that part, but he, he tries to name-drop the USGA amateur golf tournament that was happening in town as like, you know, this is a little impressive, but also just a terrible idea when you're trying to convince somebody that you haven't been out drinking the entire time. So I created a top 5 worst places to tell an officer that you were at before being pulled over on a suspicion of DUI.

Wait a sec, so let me set this up again. So you're in your car, cop behind you, "Woo! You know why I stopped you today?" "Oh, I'm sorry, sir, whatever." And he says, "Have you been drinking?" And you say—

I was— no, when they asked me, like, "Have you been drinking?" "No, I mean, a little here or there." "Where you coming from?" O-L-I-H-A.

A bar.

Yeah, don't say that.

This is free legal advice.

Never say you don't say that.

You guys are also in order, right?

Yeah, but that's all a lie. But okay, yeah, outside looking in, bar bad, but not quite top 5 bad if you're trying to convince somebody you haven't been out drinking all day. Number 5, a chalet. Number 4, Greg Cody's garage. Number 3, I've been out on the boat. Rookie move, Dan. You ever told somebody you've been out on a boat? Yeah, don't do that. You've probably done number 2, I was out with Charles Barkley.

No chance.

And number 1, golf course. Never do that, but it was a Pro-Am.

So you guys, I didn't catch that part or may have missed it because this wrestling in picture-in-picture is hypnotizing television, and if everyone on the the internet isn't gathered around what's presently playing on our screen.

Hulk Hogan!

The internet has failed at understanding what good content is. But I am distracted as I'm trying to— it's not a DUI.

Look at Brother Love.

It's an OUI. It's an OUI. And I wasn't able—

It's OWI.

Okay, sorry. Thank you. I don't know what the terminology is. I don't also know if those were drinks or, uh, did they cut any other video out? Because I did read something about a back exercise, and so I haven't— I've read the story but not seen the video. Was that in there and did I miss it, distracted by wrestling?

Or is it something— Zeus is blocking the steel cage. Hogan has a steel cage match with Big Boss Man, but Zeus is blocking the entrance to the cage. And you're gonna see he chops down the Hulkster. It was very scary.

We don't have the video of this, but Romo, when asked to do field tests, he was like, let me stretch my back out first.

Yeah, it was just a series of things that you shouldn't do to call attention to how much you've been drinking.

Chris, I wish he stretched like that. He grabs the hood of the car, bends over, and then starts like lifting his knee side to side like so.

That's a decent back stretch, actually.

It is. I just did it right now and it feels really good. As I was demonstrating, I'm like, oh my God. Maybe I should stop ridiculing this guy. Man, take some hints.

Well, he was doing this stupid, wow, this feels great.

Yeah, he was doing that, yeah.

Okay, and if I may, just in retrospect. Because, well, the reason I want to look at this is because I haven't now seen the video, and so I don't know if I can actually apply an empath's compassion to any of this when my immediate thought is if he— this person's physical body, because he might as well have played with the dinosaurs, is such that whatever he needs to medicate the pain because his back doesn't feel right, I'm guessing he's walking around in retirement in a great deal of pain on that golf course.

Yeah, there he is. That's classic Dan right now. No, we're the bad guys. All right, here for the empath. Here's a video that'll make you feel bad for Tony Romo. This is before his field sobriety test. He's asked a question. Now spot where you can see he has a flashback to all of his concussions. Uh, any head injuries?

Excuse me?

Any head injuries recently? Any concussions? Well, over the years, yes, but not recently.

The wrist rub. Yeah, you could see he actually went down to check for the play too at one point.

The main source of the feud, Dan, Hogan got top billing in the movie No Holds Barred. Zeus thought he should have gotten top billing, so that's why he showed up to WWF and he teamed with Macho to fight Hogan. And yes, Brutus Beefcake take at SummerSlam. It was about getting top billing on the movie.

I'm not kidding you, Amin, when I tell you that video— if I were making a sports museum about how it is to tell the story of football in 2026, that video is a work of art on the quarterback being confused about his concussions. Because if you know it's Tony Romo, the answer to that question is, hey, Lady, I've had a million of them.

You know what the crazy thing is? As I'm looking at him in that clip, I'm looking at his hair, and I've had this theory for years, and no one seems to buy in with me, but I fully believe it. He has drunk hair. Yeah, like drunk hair is a thing. It's, it's— he didn't do anything. It's just he's had so much alcohol, his hair became intoxicated as well. And look at it, it's just like kind of sitting there.

Okay, this is a fascinating observation. I don't think we're getting any—

look at it, we're zooming in on them.

Look at it, that guy's been at the chalet.

All right, we've gone too far.

This is the point, straight, straight from Greg Cody's mouth.

I was having fun and now it's too much.

I knew that you guys were gonna do this to me. Yeah, you make me look like such a hipster.

That's so messed up that you did this, Dan Le Batard.

Awful announcing tomorrow is going to have a field day. Dan Levitard ridicules and laughs at Tony Romo's misfortunes.

We have no idea the pain that he's been through.

The problem—

Say that again.

With my argument is that his grandparents have been dead for 20 years.

Now later on in 1989, very predictably, Zeus had a price, and that price of course came from the Million Dollar Man. The Million Dollar Man bought Zeus's services. And it was the Million Dollar Team versus the Hulkamaniacs at Survivor Series.

I mean, I want to talk about only facts, but I can't dispute that what you have got me on is he did absolutely have drunk hair. He would be convicted by a jury of his peers. We don't need a breathalyzer. You just seized on something that is better than any DUI test. He absolutely had drunk hair.

It's never led me wrong. Yeah, that theory has never led me wrong.

It's also not reckless because he was indeed drunk.

Well, I don't know whether that was drugs. We don't know what that was. We don't know. He seemed— it could be concussions.

We know that it was, uh, all right, fine. He said golf course. Did you not listen to Top 5?

It's Tony Romi. I said football.

Golf course. We don't know what happened.

You guys said his grandparents are dead, but everyone has 4 grandparents. We know grandparents on both sides.

Report is that all sides of grandparents are deceased.

Tough luck.

But again, she doesn't know that, you know. Going to Grandma's house. Genealogy.

23andMe.

He did flash a smile when he said Grandma's house. Like, come on, it was a bluff.

It was charming, dude, though.

It seemed like, come on, what are we doing?

I feel like if I lost all my grandparents and I had like, let's say, like a friend of my grandma, I might start calling her Grandma.

He could be going to our grandma's house.

Somebody that's just super close to him that's kind of filled that gap.

Also, as someone who has all dead grandparents, grandparents who died either before I was born or when I was a very small child. It feels like the kind of lie that I would turn to early and often. This is especially— but this is the way you use it. He did it in a different way of, I'm going to go see them. I do it in the, I'm sorry, my grandmother died. Okay, which is true, it just happened 5 years ago.

You gotta go with, I gotta take a shit.

Also, that's what you go with there. We're approaching Owen Wilson. We're not that young age. You can't be using the grandparents at that.

Oh, but, but I just want to stop you guys because I do think we're being unfair here. It's— do none of you refer to your parents as abuelo and abuela? You refer to them—

if you have kids, that would be really weird for you to do.

No, but you understand what I'm saying though, right?

I do call—

I call my dad Pop to my daughter.

Yeah. Is it possible that he's saying he's coming from his folks' house, but he said he calls them grandparents now?

Because.

All right.

Okay.

Perhaps.

Perhaps. There you go. You're always fair. That's what I like about you.

You know what? You know what? That's true. I do call my— I just thought about it. I call my parents Grandma and Grandpa in Arabic, but that's because like I'm around my kids all the time, and so that's what they call them. You know what, Dan?

Great job.

The world's greatest empath is not, as he— the self-proclaimed usurper, now, Dan Damashek. It is Dan Levitard. Give him a round of applause.

I can't, I gotta risk them.

Now, are his parents still with us? That's an important factor here.

Oh, damn.

The feud came to its conclusion in December of '89 when Zeus teamed back up with Macho King, and at the No Holds Barred— not movie, pay-per-view— it was Zeus and Macho against Hogan and Beefcake, but this time in a steel cage match.

Now, Zazz, Zazz, I gotta stop you. You say that was the end of the feud. Are you not familiar with when Zeus popped up on WCW Monday Nitro?

I know, Dan. And just like you were about to say, that was when he went by the name of Z Gangsta.

So his parents are alive.

Both are alive. His dad's name is Ramiro.

Yeah, he's—

yeah, he's Latin.

Yeah, he's Mexican.

Abuelo Ramiro.

Heard someone call it white privilege. I'm like, he's not white.

Oh, come on, he's Mexican. Look at that nose.

Come on, Tony. Abuelo Ramiro.

I'm telling you, Ramiro.

Rami. He's still alive. We've been unfair to Tony Romo with a Grant Zazz said, oh no. Zazz goes, oh no, because then the assumption is made Romo's lying about his dead grandparents, but it might just be that, uh, Abuelo Ramiro is being slandered.

It was a great rhetorical trick by you. You should have used that with the cop.

Z Gangsta teamed up with a guy called The Ultimate Solution.

I don't like that name.

How did he spell Z Gangsta? How was that spelled?

Zed Gangsta.

Oh, so it was just a Z? It wasn't Z-E-E? It was just Z?

Just Z-Gangsta.

Did he have on his trunks a Z or something, or he was just famously—

okay, what was The Ultimate Solution's gimmick?

I don't know, man. I don't like that.

Come on, a uniform, or—

and that sounds like something else, by the way.

It was a bad period for wrestling names in WCW.

Dan Levitar.

I don't think— strange for me, but like Mike Ryan.

Oh boy, this is the Dan Levitar Show.

Will you guys feel bad about, uh, killing the parents of Tony Romo and then killing Tony Romo because he would dare to call Pop and Grandma— Pop, uh, you know, Grandpa instead of, uh, you know?

I don't know, we, we didn't kill Tony Romo, but also it's kind of weird. You get pulled over to to lean on the new name that you have for your parents. That seems like a very formal thing. And I'm saying I was at my dad's.

I mean, I could see, I could see making that mistake. Like, you, you, you fall into that habit, especially if maybe your mind isn't 100% clear because you're coming from a golf course and you, you know, played football.

Dan wasn't telling us what to think. He was just asking us if we'd like to.

Man, 3 and a half chicken sausages and a cafecito shot is not good for the tummy.

Yeah, I'm gonna take one of them.

I gotta—

you're gonna update the chat at some point, buddy?

I gotta take a walk.

It's been months.

It has. I found— I still keep— I still keep up. I, I've stopped putting the emote.

Why do you guys do this? Why do you guys— like, it is the height of self-obsession that you insist on our platform of publicizing the fact that you guys are always chatting while going to the bathroom. Like, I, I don't know why you guys think that's entertaining, or entertainment in the chat or otherwise, but you love telling the public about I'm sorry, do you know Howie Mandel?

He found it plenty interesting.

Howie Mandel wants in! Howie—

who are you?

Who are you, Dan Levitard? You know what, I take back everything I said earlier. Who are you, Dan Levitard? Philly guys, Dave Dameshek, all y'all, I'm back on your side. Who is this Dan Levitard to question the great Howie Mandel?

The great Howie Mandel from Bobby's world wants in on the chat, and you think it's therefore entertaining because he wants it? He— this is your definition for why it is our audience should be burdened by the amount times you guys spend talking about the fact that you text each other while going to the bathroom.

Okay, uh, let's do this.

Not content. It's not good content.

Let's play, uh, box plus minus, right? In one box, I'm gonna put on the ratings of America's Got Talent.

In the other box, don't forget Deal or No Deal.

The art of conversation.

Yeah. Oh no, that's a low blow. That's a low blow.

Well, you wanted to play here.

Yeah.

Brad and Amin are tracking it by number. Amin took his 229 of the year this morning.

You think that The Art of Conversation as a metaphor compares to your cutting while you're shitting? That's what you just said to me as, as we continue to build the platform for you that makes you a Pulitzer winner.

No, I'm comparing your show, The Art of Conversation, to you, and then Howie Mandel to Deal or No Deal.

I always got excited when the banker would Yeah, and he was like—

I never understood how that show worked.

It was a mystery. He was just like in the corner, like shadow. It was just a silhouette. It was like Arnold Schwarzenegger in True Lies when he was like, take off your clothes.

Yeah, well, he didn't— he didn't say it because he had no—

but then he had to rewind it, and then it was just in the same exact inflection, take off your clothes.

Did you know that him dropping the tape recorder, not planned?

Oh really? Yeah, man.

James Cameron said keep it.

I know we're allies and all that, but Jamie Lee Curtis looked good.

Today is the 211th day of the year, so a mean is slightly above 1 poop per day at 229.

Regular.

Vegas, Vegas did some things to me.

Oh, excellent. Thank you for the elaboration. Appreciate that. I appreciate you guys continuing this, the argument on behalf of how it is this is good content while it's not.

You know, where would you say you are on the year, Dan?

I'm very regular.

I rode the elevator that that Arnold went into with the horse. And there is a plaque that celebrates that fact. It was pretty random. It's like that time I went to Memphis, Tennessee, and there was a Subway shop that was featured in "The Firm," the Tom Cruise early '90s vehicle, and it made that its entire identity. They were playing "The Firm" on TV, and they're like, "Yes, welcome.

We are the sub shop from the 1990s film, 'The Firm.'" It's completely inappropriate, but I thought Mike was going to say, it's like that time I went to Memphis, Tennessee, and I went to this motel and they had this whole plaque commemorating.

I need to scrub this. Give me some sound that scrubs this the last 3 minutes, please. Start of the day. Start of the day. It is the start of the day. Start of the day. Start of the day. It is the start of the day. Start of the day. Start of the day, it is the start of the day. Start of the day, start of the day, it is the start of the day.

Is there a plaque that says, this is where we put Andrew Bogut on Tony Allen?

I ran into Tony Allen at Summer League, by the way.

Oh man, and he immediately slid his feet under your ankles.

No, that's, that's Zaza.

Come on, what are you doing there? He's a good defender.

I once went to the motel from Scarface, the Grindfather.

Dan, I got two stats of the day for you. Do you want— it's one's a sports one, one is a semi-local connection one. Which one do you want?

Uh, I want the sports one.

Okay, so in the history of the NBA, 67 players have reached $250 million in guaranteed career earnings, just in the entirety of the history of the NBA. 67 have reached guaranteed career earnings of $250 million. Only one of the 67 has a career average of less than 10 points per game. Can you name the player?

Okay, so this is stat or is it a trivia question? Because this seems like a different game.

Well, that's a stat.

It's a stat.

You know what, I got a lot of notes for you this segment. Not my favorite from you. Is it, is it Draymond?

Oh my god, he won!

Wow, you're good.

Thank you.

Draymond Green, $250 million in career earnings, only one to average less than 10 points a game, and will go into the Hall of Fame as the most unique defender to have ever played the sport, correct? Either him or Rodman, in terms of whatever it is. We don't know how we're measuring that, but he's able to guard people in a way that other human beings can't.

Them two, and also Ben Wallace.

That's the list for all-time players, not shot blockers necessarily, but when we undervalue that side of the ball and when Golden Golden State looks at Draymond Green and says, uh, you were the furnace that fed all our championships during 10 years. Uh, they gave him a 1-year contract. Wildly polarizing figure, wildly interesting figure, uh, a modern athlete who you could absolutely downsize by questioning his offensive game, but centerpiece superstar as a 10-point-a-game scorer for a team— we don't make many of those. Like, Ben Wallace got to win one of those. Rodman became a cartoon character and got to be another one, but unique defender who gets to be celebrated for championship defense when he's not very good offensively. We do not turn those into stars very often.

It seems as though to be celebrated as a defender, your offensive game can only be so good because Kawhi, when healthy, is probably in terms of perimeter defender. I mean, where do you rank him? Like all-time great?

Yeah. No, Kawhi was incredible. Kawhi was—

he's too good offensively to be in this conversation, right?

He grew. It's funny because he started started as primarily a defensive player and then he grew into something much greater.

He's a three— he's a, a two-way guy, right? Like, he's not the great defender, he's a two-way guy. We put Klay Thompson there, we put like other guys there. But yeah, but too good offense isn't going to ever be fully appreciated because he's too good offensive.

Yeah, but you even turn this conversation about, uh, defense and Draymond Green— this is as unique a personality and player as there's ever been. Like, I'm not even kidding you when I say to be a championship star when you're a defensive emotional furnace, you cannot control your temper, you're a giant personality, you've got a giant media career ahead of you, and you weren't much of a scorer, but you decided one Finals when you kicked somebody in the nuts so that LeBron James could, uh, win. And then in that Finals, you scored 32 points in a Game 7 because they knew to guard everybody the hell else. Draymond Green's career is going to be remembered for things said and not done, when what he's done doesn't have a whole lot of precedent.

Oh, he's going to be remembered for the things did.

You mean, uh, the other stuff, not the basketball stuff? Like, as a— I mean, you've never seen a basketball player like this. There's never been one like this.

So a couple other names that fit in this box: Dikembe Mutombo, uh, you also have Bobby Jones who played for the Sixers.

So is the box like amazing defenders who were not skilled offensive players?

Yeah, it's like, yes, elite defensive players who offensively were, I guess, average at At best, because guys like Rodman was incompetent offensively. I wouldn't even say that, because early in his career in Detroit, he was a good offensive player. And then at some point, like Dan said, he became a cartoon character who didn't really care about it. Vinny Del Negro tells me this great story about, like, the first time they were at practice together in San Antonio. Vinny misses a shot, Rodman grabs the rebound, he's right under the rim, and he literally dribbles out 23 feet to hand it back to Vinny. And Vinny says, hey Dennis, you're right under the rim, just go back up with about this. And he said, I don't tell you how to do your job, don't effing tell me how to do mine. And he's like, you didn't tell me twice.

And surprised San Antonio didn't work out.

So, but it's funny that—

just a crazy person.

It's funny that Tony was like, well, Kawhi is kind of like, like Klay Thompson, like Paul George, these two-way guys, right? Kawhi is the only one of those two-way guys— those guys are all great defensive players, but Kawhi is the only one I would say rises to the level of Elite. This guy might be the best defensive player in the league and also one of the best offense players. But that's because I think for him, the— that was what he was supposed to be coming out of college. He was supposed to be like defensive guy with a decent offensive game. He can maybe get you some shots here and there. I'm trying to think, Jimmy Butler maybe a little bit, but I, I don't think he was ever that good defense. Jimmy was never as good defensively as Kawhi was at his peak.

The reason though that I keep doing the precedent thing is we always undervalue defense. What a cartoonish personality Draymond Green had to be to become a superstar on sheer force of personality and defense. It really is making chicken salad out of chicken shit. We don't appreciate defense.

What happened to Chris?