Transcript of The Big Suey: ...How IS Dan? (feat. Domonique Foxworth)

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I need everybody to know here that if you love Ron McGill and you want to support the things that he is doing, he's got a big event at Zoom Miami. He's winding down his career at Zoom Miami. There's not going to be a lot of time left there. What?

Just a breaking news?

There's enough going on this week.

He scoops Tony? I don't need that, too.

Is he okay?

Oh, my God, he knows.

I'm not breaking news here. He's just in his 60s. So?

People live a long time.

The government's in bad shape, and government workers are having a hard time at the moment.

Ron's okay, though. Wait, so he's dying or he's getting fired?

Well, this happens to me all the time when I say goodbye. This happened to me yesterday when I was saying goodbye to you. People thought that you were dying as well at the beginning of that. This happens to me every time I say anything like this. I'm not news when I tell you that he's got a Halloween party, and I don't know how many more of these he's going to be doing at Zoom Miami. It's Monster Masquerade. It's an adults-only event, and he's allowed us to give our listeners a discount. Roy, give the people some of the details on this.

Yeah, this event is tomorrow. Please do not bring your kids. This is adults only, 21 and over. The code is R-O-N-M-M-2-5. You can get 15% off the ticket price, which is $150 each. It has open bars, and you can eat 20 restaurants. You can go to zoomiami. Org/monster and use code R-O-N-M-M-2-5 for a 15% discount.

Is this like an upside down pineapple situation where we got here?

Maybe.

We all agree that this is Derek Zoolander, right? Yes. They just photoshopped a picture of Zoolander a little bit. That's Blue Steel. He's not an ambi-turner, right? That's why he's turning his left right here.

Dominic Foxworth is waiting for us in the Zoom. I thought Billy was going to speak there, but Billy, as you know, does things when he wants to do things.

No, we're talking to him mean. Because you again said, after we were trying to clarify, this might be the last one he does, and we're like, well, because he's sick, he's dying. Government.

Yeah, what's happening? He's just old. He's not that old. Look, this is a day for celebration of old people. I'm going to give you guys some stats from Optistats. Thursday marked the first time ever that a 40-year-old starting pitcher won a Major League Baseball postseason game while a 40-year-old starting quarterback won on the NFL in the same day. This also from Optistats. There's been one game in the history of the NFL where both quarterbacks completed 65% of their passes, threw for three touch downs, had 100 plus passer rating, threw a 25-yard TD pass, and erased a double-digit deficit. That game occurred last night between two 40-year-old quarterbacks. Ron is 25 years older than the oldest people in sports. Ron is toward the end of his life and career.

He's not playing quarterback for the Browns or the Bangles. He's like, You'll be fine.

He's talking about animals, riding golf car. He's like, Hey, there's a zebra.

Dominic Foxworth joins us now. The Dominic Foxworth show is something that is informative and fun. Can you explain to me what it is that we saw last night? Because I'm sitting here saying, I thought Jalen Ramsey played pretty well, and you're a former cornerback. So it seems like an impossible position to play when you've got to guard Tee Higgins and him getting six catches. And the last one makes you a huge failure in a game where they acquired you to be the guy who wins that game. They acquired you to be the guy who does not get beaten by Tee Higgins in that spot.

First of all, how's Dan? This man is a successful professional communicator, but still struggles to communicate, and I love it. It humanize you. It's like when Shaq shoots free throws. It's fantastic. But I mean, as for Jalen Ramsey, he's an incredible football player. What happened last night, I think Tony mentioned it earlier about how it's a challenging position. And I I think, to be honest, we talk about how losing a step could hurt you. He isn't as quick as it used to be. So when he's in press coverage, he's going to get beat a little bit more. And it's just those inches that change the way that things work, especially when there's an accurate quarterback. So he was on chase in Higgins at different times in the game, and he made some plays from time to time. But it's a really tough position, especially when the guys that you're going up against are in their prime, and you may not quite be there anymore. But yeah, what he means to that defense is more about flexibility and versatility than it is about being a lockdown, shutdown corner that they put on the guy and he disappears.

But you also mentioned earlier that the running attack, that was really the difference for the bangles. The Stealers were in a lot of single high stuff, trying to take away that rushing attack, which isolates Jalen Ramsey. And Jalen Ramsey was playing off really far quite a bit. And then when he got up and pressed, that's when that little bit of quickness that he might have lost, it gets in the way and it becomes a problem.

So did he or did he not play well? Is a cornerback even allowed to play well the way you do cornerback measurements in a game that looks like that?

No. I mean, his assessment would be that he played poorly. He gave up a couple of touch downs in the most pivotal play in the game and just man-to-man isolated press coverage. You can't say that you play well in that situation. They give you a really hard job. That's the thing about playing, I mean, frankly, any professional sports, but especially at that position. And the same thing could be said for playing quarterback. That's a really, really difficult job. It's hard to do. If you don't succeed, then you didn't do it well. That's one of the great things What happens about sports is you don't have a whole bunch of conjecture about why this happened or what's going on here. We might do it when we're analyzing the game. But when you get back to the locker room, guys are either saying, Good job, high five, or saying, It ain't that big a deal, man. We be all right. It happens to everybody. That's your experience. Rarely do they MF you and try to fight you. You have to be really bad for that to happen. But most of the time, it's mostly like, Hey, come on, man.

It gets everybody to worry about it. We behind you, that stuff.

Well, you say they get everybody, but I haven't seen a game except maybe Seattle, Tampa Bay this year. I haven't seen a football game played where that's what I'm watching. Wait, I thought the Stealers defense was good. What do you mean all of a sudden, the 40 20-year-old quarterback who's not Browning can get there and have a 350-yard game where he's not thrown from behind, he'll just decimate you all game long, and all of a sudden, the bangles look exactly like they did with Burrow.

How's that possible? Well, the Stealers defense isn't very good. They haven't been all that good all season long. They have a lot of names, and they have a long reputation. It's a lot like what happened with the Ravens, but I guess the Ravens have the excuse of a bunch of injuries. The Stealers' defense has been up and down this year. The games that they had, like a high EPA, were a result of turnovers, and those things, as you know, can come and go depending on the situation. So they haven't been all that good this year. That still doesn't mean that this offense that's been bad without Joe Burrow all year should just go in there and do what they want with them the way they did. But I think you can chalk it up to the Joe Flacko dead cat bounce and also Thursday nights. Thursday nights are always a little bit unpredictable because it's just a random, weird rest situation and preparation situation. But yeah, Joe Flacko wasn't doing anything amazing. He was just picking up apart and making the decisions to get rid of the ball quickly and finding the soft spots in the zone.

But I don't know why he's still doing it, which at first it was confusing to me, why is Joe still out there? But now it's beautiful and romantic that I genuinely think that this Yeah. You know people say, I would do this for free, and we all know they're lying. He's really one of these guys that I think would do it for free because I think he recognizes while taking a contract with the Browns, he recognizes that he's not going to win a Super Bowl or impact his legacy in any way. He also made a ton of money. I'm not sure exactly what could motivate him to go out there and get hit by people other than he just really freaking loves it. I don't love nothing as much as Joe Flacko loves to play football.

He really does. He's been asked in press availability about, Why are you still doing this? You have nothing to prove. And he's like, Well, I'm presently at the level where I know I'm still an NFL quarterback, and I only got one life to live. It's a love letter to football. Every time he's asked about the question, he's like, Why wouldn't I still want to be out here? It's freaking amazing.

Or he hates his family.

Or he hates Mike Tomlin.

Put it on the poll at Lebitard Show. Who does Joe Flack hate more, Mike Tomlin or his own family?

I mean, don't his sons hate him? Isn't that a thing that his sons like- They were opposing uniforms. Oh, man. That's a cauldron there. That's a tough household where your sons who are eating the food that you buy, going to the fancy schools that you probably pay for, wearing all their expensive clothes that you have given them. Also, probably pretty athletic and tall, thanks to your jeans. Still like, You know what? Jamir Gibbs. That's my guy.

Yeah, buy Buy me the Gibbs Jersey with that money we make, dad. That's awful.

I didn't even think about that. It's like, actually, the money from winning Super Bowl is the money that you little M-Mafers are taking to Dick's Sporting goods and being like, Hey, put me down for one of them Gibbs.

Flacko's got one assignment during his time in Cincinnati, and that's just win enough to be a bridge to possibly Joe Burrow coming back and them having a shot at the playoffs. After two games, It seems like he's going to be able to tread enough water to get them there, right?

I mean, I hope so. That feels like a lot more fun experience than the alternative. I think that the fact that he has good receivers, it's so hard to decipher what's happening in a football game. And I would have told you before Thursday night that Joe Flacko was going to have a rough outing and the bangles were going to get blown out. And I don't know exactly the reason why this has all worked out. I think there's a couple of receivers that probably helps to understand it. But those guys couldn't work for Jake Browning, who's had some successful runs in that same situation with those guys. So some of this stuff is surprising. I've noticed this year that it feels like there are some emotional impact of certain players in certain situations that's impossible for us to measure as I've gone through my evolution of an analyst from going from football guy who's like a hand in the dirt, everything can be explained by football, to reading more about analytics and understanding that, to feeling like I can figure things out to these numbers to now back around on that cycle to football guy where it's like, Man, get these damn bobs right and hit somebody, holla at Jackson, dark, and Cam Skatebu.

All of a sudden, we're beating the defender Super Bowl champs.

It's about having guys, right?

It feels like Flacko is playing a bit of Maddon right now.

He's like, All right, I'm going to throw to Jamar Chase 23 times, and let's see if you can stop him.

It's easy to play quarterback when you have a guy that's that good, you just throw the ball to him.

It wasn't easy for Browning. It made it easier for Browning, but Browning can throw you three interceptions. So can Flacko, by the way, but he's not going to do it against the Jets next week. They're going to be four and four, Dominic. If Flacko was enjoying life as football player before, he's enjoying it more when he's got the old age and he's counting the minutes because he's like, I was just with the Browns. I know how hard this can be when I don't have players. Good God, wait a minute. There's a team where I can throw to those two guys? Both my wide receivers are super expensive. Okay, I'll go there and punctuate my career there and see if I can just get it to 500 for Joe Burrow And then all of a sudden in the playoffs, everyone's fearing the bangles again.

A lot of pressure on Joe Burrow, though, because I think that it wasn't a foregone conclusion. We were saying, If we get there, then maybe Joe Burrow can be back. I'm not sure. Can you imagine a scenario where Joe Burrow comes back and plays poorly, and the bangles are like, Hey, man, bring back Flacko. His toe is not quite healed all the way. We need to bring back Flacko.

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Don Lebatard.

We didn't get to your guys as against the spread. You're right.

I don't have it against the spread because I wasn't prepared for this segment. You need an Ian in your life. You have actively played defense against me today in a way that has rarely been this undercutting. Stugatz.

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Dominique, you mentioned learning more about analytics in your current role as an analyst. When you were a player, did they ever... Any of the prep, was it ever analytically driven? And if so, was it presented as such? Or did they just tell you, We need this to happen, and there was analytics behind the reasoning, but you guys never saw it?

Yeah, you know as well as anybody that there's always been analytics. It's funny because it's like a new word where I make fun of people because they're like, I did some research. How many Googles qualify as research? You did one Google and read one article and you're presenting this as research. I think the same thing is true of analytics. I think they're more sophisticated now, but we're always using analytics. We just call them tendencies. It's like, when this guy lines up here, this is the likelihood that he's going to do this when this team is on this position in the field. So we always use it, and it made you feel confident and comfortable in the things that you are willing to do. I think that's one of the most important things, and especially at the position of a cornerback, you have to take chances. The quarterbacks are too good, the receiver are too good. You should never win a one-on-one matchup based on physicality and the way the rules are set up. But if If you take chances and you gamble and those chances are calculated, things will work out for you. I think that's all analytics are, and having confidence in the people that are presenting it.

I think you make a good point about how is it presented to you? If you tell me the probability, that's one thing. But if you tell me a story about this probability and understand that when this is going to happen. And also, you have credibility. That's the thing that I think hangs over what's happening with the Eagles is I don't feel like there's a leader in that organization right now on the offensive side of the ball that everyone can look to like they had Kelen Moore last year. I was like, Hey, I've done it before. I've been here for a long time. You can trust that I'll fix this because you know they had a rough start last year, and they fixed it.

Let me stop him for a second because we've gone too long without celebrating Billy. And some old-time listeners of this show We're really going to appreciate this. Time now for Guillermo's Epic Sound of the Day.

Time now for Guillermo's- Guillermo's- Epic Sound of the Day. It's going to be epic.

Hey, guys.

Hey, Billy. Hello, Billy.

This is Billy. Dominic, how's it going?

What's up, buddy?

Dan, I mean, what's new?

You really took out Skipper in the last segment.

I did. Billy wasn't even here. Thank you. Tony gets it. I wasn't even here. What are you talking about?

Also, he's talking about Gilligan. Yeah.

Anywho.

I got the Skipper.

You guys are familiar with Demi Lovato?

Yeah.

Musician, actress. Yes. Voice of a generation, some say. Had some troubles. Some. Overcame them. Now, honestly, looks happier than ever and healthier than ever. Just, yeah, looking great. In fact, you know-What's going on there? What do you mean? Dan?

This ain't the room for it.

Demi Lovato?

Yes, it looks great.

No, you know who we're talking about? Yes. Okay. Demi Lovato, who, years ago, we introduced the world to a clip such as this one. In fact, this exact clip is one of my favorite epic sounds of the day ever. Before she became friend of the Demi Lovat Bros, where we went and we saw her at the Dayton 500, If you remember correctly, you remember that? No. You don't remember when we met Demi LaVotte?

You remember Demi LaVotte Bros? Yes, Kug's Dance Moves?

Kug's Dance Moves, yes.

That's the wrong picture, but that's fine. Don't worry. Never changed. There we go. Only that? Only Kug still stands. Yeah. Well, not the day. Anywho, Demi Lovato was doing some press 10 years ago. When she was doing said press 10 years ago, she was asked her favorite dish.

Your favorite dish.

My favorite dish. I like mugs because they're very comfortable in your hand and they hold the hot things that you don't have to touch. So coffee or hot tea.

More of a bowl guy myself.

That is Guillermo's Epic Sound of the Day. I'm glad that we brought it.

Time now for Guillermo's Epic Sound of the Day.

It's going to be epic.

You guys have a favorite dish? I'm glad that- It's your favorite dish.

It's actually a pretty good answer. I get why it's dumb, but it's a pretty good answer because it does have some use.

Can I just I don't think a mug is a dish. I put it on the poll at Leventhal show. I think it's a terrible answer. Is a mug a dish? Is a mug a dish? I'd go with the saucer. My favorite dish is the saucer. That's what I call it.

A ramecan.

My dad taught me that word. Look, don't question me on this. Ramecan is when you put clothes on in a window? No.

Ramacons are little tiny cups you put sauces in.

Ramacons sounds tawdry.

Put it on the poll. Do you know what a ramecan is? I want to get back to- A ramecan? I barely know them. I want to to the conversation. I'm again.

Poor Ken.

Dominic was starting when he said that Joe Flacko's kids are disrespectful. All kids are disrespectful, aren't they? All kids.

They absolutely are. They get so disrespectful that eventually they have to leave. We're going to miss you, Billy. We love you so much, right? The weirdness in this show is a lot generated by Billy, and the show is going to get a lot less weird, which is sad, but congratulations, and we're all happy for you. Hopefully, my kids can grow up to Oh, God. My kids can grow up to be as awesome and entertaining and talented and funny as you. But right now, they just disrespect the shit out of me on a regular basis, and it drives me nuts. And my wife tries to tell me that they don't mean it as disrespect. But if I tell you to put your laundry away, I take the basket from the laundry room and put it in your room in a place that you have to walk by, if you walk by it, that is disrespect. My wife's like, No, they're just not thinking about it like that. They don't take things as seriously as you do. But I throw to the room, does that not qualify as disrespect? If I put it there, I know that you've walked by it four times.

I heard you. It's two days now. It's still sitting there untouched. That's disrespect. I'm going to get mad. That's all.

Imagine if you step over, like a supreme disrespect. In the NFL, you got a flag for stepping over somebody, AI stepping over Tylu.

That's disrespect. Tony, you think I didn't do that? You think I didn't block the door with the laundry basket? That's what I'm saying?

So they're stepping over said laundry basket.

And by doing that, are they Dan? Are they or are they not saying, Hey, dad, F you?

Well, they're not only just doing that, Dominic. I'm thinking to myself, as you say this, there isn't anywhere else in your life with any person you've encountered that you've ever abided this disrespect.

I mean, that's the thing about love is love and fear. But I think I've probably abided a little bit more disrespect for people that had some more power. I've been MFed by plenty of coaches where it's like, Oh, man. And also, yeah, sometimes me and Ray Louis disagree. I'm like, You're right, right?

Okay. I'll be quiet, but we walk away.

That's an interesting one, though. What's funny about what you're articulating is the only time that you abide disrespect is when someone is actually more powerful than you. They're disrespecting you because they don't think you're powerful at all.

Exactly. I know. They don't because I'm not. That's the misconception about everything. I think, Dan, you might be figuring this out, too. It's like, man, when you're a kid, you're like, Man, when I get to be a parent-adult, I'm going to have so much power and control, do whatever I want. Man, when I get to run my own company, I'm going to have so much power control, do whatever I want. That's not how it works, kids. Let me warn you, don't get your hopes up. It don't get much better than 17. 17 is awesome. Nothing gets better than being 17, especially if you're good at football. It's incredible. A 17-year-old that can ball? It's life. Be a 42-year-old who's married with three kids, not nearly as much fun.

Dominic's kids are like, he'll be fine. We'll just draw another the picture where his hairline is real strong.

That's how he would be back. I used to laugh with my brother about how our mom would apologize in the off-chance that she did something that we were upset about rather than being like, Look, I'm sorry. She just be like, What's that video game you've been talking about? Where are those shoes that you've really been liking and that you were picking up for us? And that was her version of apology. I feel the same way about these pictures. It's like, rather than be like, I'm sorry for disrespecting you, they're like, Hey, you got a hairline like Jalen Rose, which is clearly not true.

Is there anything more disrespectful that your kids do than what they just did to you? What is the greatest of the indignities you suffered before you realized, Wait a minute, this is a disrespect I'm abiding that I shouldn't be. These kids need to be better kids because I'm their dad.

It's a great communicator. They are normally fantastically behaved children, but they do like... Because we are more gentle parents than there was in the past, obviously, I don't advocate any type of violence, but it is a much more direct way of communicating. And you turn up the volume a little bit, which is one thing I think I'm good at is I don't blow up very often. So when somebody talk back, it's mostly like if my son talks back to his mother, I lose it then. And of course, we don't get the physical violence, but it's a lot of loud, and that stuff stops. So the most disrespectful thing they do are these passive things where it's like, Clean up after yourself. Don't take bowls out of the kitchen if you're not going to take them back into the kitchen. Those sorts of things that my life is riddled with those things, and they irk me because they're so small that I seem like the crazy person for losing it. It's like, Oh, yeah, it's just a bowl in the living room. It's not the end of the world. He didn't stab anybody. But I feel so personally disrespected.

You guys make me feel bad. Is there anything like this in any of your lives that you're like, Man, I know it's small, but I know that you thought about me when you looked at that goddamn bowl and walked past it for the third time?

Dominic, what you're describing is microaggressions. That's the term microaggressions. That's what children are great at. My kids, I told this story, I think it was a week ago or so, I was telling them about Millie Vanille. And like, Oh, this is the biggest thing. And they had like, they won these Grammys and these songs were hits. And then it turned out they were lip syncing. And so my kids were like, Oh, word. And so then we put on a little documentary about it, and I showed them the videos, and they watched and they looked at me and said, You mean to tell me you think they were actually singing? And I know what they're trying to say. They're trying to say, You dumbass. You believe this? You bought this? They look at these guys. They're clearly slip-sinking. But deep in my heart, I was like, No, but you don't understand. We all believe. We all thought it was real.

When you're able to look back at something because they're going to have the same experience, and we all having that experience now, too, where you're like, Man, how could people disenfranchize other people's ability to vote? That's ridiculous back in the '50s. Then you look around like, Oh, it could happen here, too. That's how right there. It's the exact same thing. Millie Vanille, Girl, You know It's True. It's the exact same thing, what you're saying.

Girl, You know it's true.

Don Levatard. I thought that we were past the lightning. I thought that we were better than the lightning, and we didn't give the lightning any mind. This is loser mentality. I was making this series. No, no, no.

Last year's shirt was World War III. Our group chat has a good feeling about this one.

The lightning aren't shit to me. I'm just going to come right out and tell you right now. We have surpassed the lightning. They're not a formidable foe. They're a joke. Stugats. I don't take them seriously at all. Strike me by lightning. I don't care. Nothing's going to happen to me. Lightning are soft. I'm not giving them any mind. I'm not paying attention to them this series. On to the next round. This is the Dan Levatard show with the Stugats.

While we've been talking about communication, what do you think Dan was trying to say here, Dominic?

I think Billy goes. I think Billy and Mike have both had zoo experiences that have grown their relationship with Ron McGill. Do I have this wrong?

I think that's really messed up that Dan would out people on air. Like, Gosh, they got a little secret thing going on there. Let them live, baby.

That's a totally abnormal way to ask somebody if they've ever been to the zoo, right?

He said something earlier in the show today that was really weird, too. In the first segment, I just like, Man, it feels like there's a thousand things probably going on in his mind at one time. When I'm listening to him, I can hear the wheels turning, whereas there was a time when Dan, all the wheels were turning, and you couldn't tell. He just spitting out all this great stuff. And now the great stuff doesn't stop, but occasionally, it comes out with another word of a different thought.

It usually starts with, Tell me if I have this wrong.

Dominic, you got Dan's words getting into a club, which is his mouth, and they're all going, All right, how many you got with all these guys? Then there's one word that sneaks in in the back like, I'm with them, too.

This is exactly what happens again. We should listen to the question again and the response again and figure out which one of these words snuck in with group of baddies. It's just a fat dude just squeezing, Oh, I'm with them. He never used to get in before.

I think Billy goes. I think Billy and Mike have both had zoo experiences that have grown their relationship with Ron McGill.

Do I have this wrong? I think they just bum-rushed the door.

It's like seven Chrispens just bum-rushing.

I think you're doing great, sweetie.

It's the two... It's growing an experience. Those are the two words that's like, No, You two all will be in this club. Get out of here.

All I was trying to say is that he gave your kids a VIP tour. They'll never forget it. Then say that. That sounds much better. I wanted them to say it, and I've gotten a hold. This is what happens.

I haven't done that.

This is a zoological experience.

I think my window closed on that. Raj is never going to talk to me again.

Let's be real. Have you ever tried to talk while reading at the same time. It's like you're reading something and you're trying to hold a conversation with someone else. I feel like that's also an explanation that's going on. It's like, sometimes these things bleed into the same conversation.

Dominic, I got a question. I was on a flight and the guy next to me was watching Thursday Night Football on Amazon Prime. The problem was he was watching last week's game. Do I have an obligation to let the guy know? You have to let him know.

I would love to let him know.

No.

Was it Dan?

Was he enjoying it?

He He seemed to be really into it.

Yes, let him. He was like, this is a great game.

I watched a video a couple of weeks ago where this family convinced their dad that they were watching the Dodgers' playoff game because he had bad vision, took off his glasses, whatever, and they were really just playing a video game on this screen. He's like, How did you get the game? How'd you get the game? We found it, dad. Don't you worry. And they kept it going for well over an hour.

It'd be great if Dan just started today's show with Kam Skatebu became a star last night.

I told you this happened in an Amazon Prime game, the Rams game the other day.

You're like, These games are starting late.

They're still outside the stadium with Fitzpatrick and Whitworth playing with the tailgate crowd. And I'm looking at my watch.

How is their daylight? It's 8: 45.

How is it that they're still doing this? It's just because I hit play, thought it was going to take me to live, and it went back to the start of the broadcast.

Playing in Hawaii.

I got a confession to make. It's happened to me before. I've figured it out now, but if you have YouTube TV, you watch on one TV, and then you turn it off, it stops whatever you're watching where you were watching it. And then if you go turn it back on somewhere else, it picks it up there. And I've been in text, group text, talking to people about a game that's been open for an hour. Because I'm still behind. It happened to be a couple of times. Now I double check because I can just press it and then it's like, Yeah, start. It doesn't say like, resume or it says resume, but it doesn't say, Go to live. And you have to be conscious of that or you'll look like an But I'm also old. I know I'm old because of that. I don't recognize these players' celebrations anymore. That was a thing that I used to see a celebration and be like, I get that right away. And the commentators are confused by it. Now I know I'm old, almost Dan age.

Oh, that's a good one. Which one got you? Which one got you recently where you don't know the celebrations? Because that is a good landmark on how it is that people fall out of the pop culture demo. You're watching athletes celebrate something, and you don't recognize what it is.

Most of them now seem like they're TikTok dancing. You got to get on TikTok. They're all TikTok dancing. Yeah. It's this like, booty shaking song where all the guys, which you will be surprised by. It's a woman's song. I forgot what it's called. Oh, Take me through there, I think is what it's called. Show us. Why don't you show us? Well, I can't do the booty shaking portion. They don't really do that. But then they do this thing while they're dancing. And I was like, Why is everybody doing that? And of course, I went to TikTok. I was like, Oh, yeah. So I could go pretend I know why they're doing that.

And so which one got you, though? Is there one in particular that got you? That's crazy.

It's all them. They were all doing it throughout college. And I know that this happened recently because they recently banned the Wiping of the Nose celebration, and I was in on that. They were getting away with it for many years. And I was like, I know what you're doing there. Nobody else knows. And then all of a sudden, this year, people are doing TikTok dances that I've never seen before. I know that I'm on a path to eventually letting a lot of people in the club that shouldn't be in a club and sounded like I'm not making sense. That one, you know what it means, Tony. You can't be doing that anymore. They banned it, which is funny because it's innocent enough. It's not cutting the throat.

You have said on the Dominic Foxworth show that the Chiefs are all the way back and that the League needs an alert. The teams that you know are positive, are good. Name them.

None. I think there are no teams that are as good as the Eagles were last year. There are no teams, including the Chiefs, that are as good as the Chiefs were at their peak. The whole League feels like some of the bad teams have gotten a little bit better, and some of the great teams have gotten a little bit worse. But I think the thing that's most attractive, which I know you pay attention to, Dan, about the Chiefs is they're fun again. And the defense, I think they do this cool thing that Steve Spagnola does where he has a blitz or some coverage that he knows going to work, and he does not call it. He saves it, puts it in his pocket for a certain time, which gives me faith in the defense that when they need a play, they're going to be able to get that play. But they're not going to need that play as much as they used to because they're going to be blowing people out because the offense, if anything, is back, especially when and if they get their rookie tackle back, Josh Simmons. I think they're going to be pretty proficient at scoring points, which, of course, is the point of the game.

But I don't know. No one's really stepped out there. I think we'll see about the Colts. They're going to continue to get tested. I think they're probably one of those teams that we have some baggage, so we're not going to be quick to anoint them. But if you watch them play, you'll see. I think they actually are really good. And Danny Dimes is... Excuse me, Indiana Jones, right? New nickname.

Dominic, it feels like the Colts play really good defense.

Their running game is really strong with Jonathan Taylor. And if Danny Dimes can continue to do what he's doing now, they could be probably one of the best teams in the AFC. Yeah, their defense, I think, is tricky, which is they're good at tricking people and confusing people. We'll see how good they are when that no longer works. But I think the fact that their offense is so good, it makes it so much easier. We've changed the rules in this game. If you remember back when we were all younger, defense was it, defense and running the ball. Now it feels like the most important thing you can have is not a great defense. It's an offense that can't be stopped. And Daniel Jones is not just being a game manager. Some of the plays that he's making and the throws that he's making are top-level Matt Stafford-esque throws on occasion. It's not as consistent as Matt Stafford does it, but he's showing that he has that ability. The next question is high pressure situations. And I've always had a hard time with that as an assessment, guys who choke and stuff, because it just doesn't feel concrete enough for me to grab onto.

But you can find some statistics that suggest that some people are worse in those situations. I just have a real hard time because Because I've been made to, or other people been made to look so stupid when they're like, this guy can't win the big one. And eventually, he wins the big one. I just don't get it. So that's the hard part. And I know we saw it with Sam Darnold last year, but Sam Darnold, he's better this year than he was last year. So I suspect that him and the Seahawks, another team that I really like, that might be my favorite team right now, especially if they get healthy in the secondary with Leonard Williams up front. That team is going to be incredible with Darnold holding in JSN, the receiver corps. That team, I think, might surprise some people. What are you laughing at? I'm turning into Dane.

Jsn, huh? Jsn, huh? The cheap code.

That's the announced of cheap code.

Jackson Smith and Degma?

Yeah, because I said that last name, man, it's tricky.

Enzygma, right? I didn't get it wrong.

No, not you. I'm just saying the announcement.

Don't grunk me.

Don't grunk me.

He was laughing because you chose to go with the initials instead of the name because the name has some danger in it. But You said Smith and Jigba is the best receiver in the league. You've already pronounced him that. I haven't heard a lot of other people saying that, even though he's got the most explosive plays in the league.

What's most interesting to me about any of this is that I want to know who's watching my show and telling you what I said? Because there's no chance that you are. I want to know who's out here watching it and telling you my takes, because I might want to come on here with a brand new take.

Dominic, let me tell you right now, he doesn't watch Cynophobes, so he's never done any Cynophobe references. I'm guessing he actually watches your show.

No, he don't. He got somebody. Somebody's doing the work, Dan. All right, come clean, Dan. Who's watching it and telling you?

Not true. I'm listening to the things you're saying.

That's not your tricky Tricky with your language right there. Are you listening to the things I say or are you listening to my show?

There was just a graphic up on ESPN when it was-Yes.

Was it What the Fox?

Yeah, What the Fox? There was just a graphic, Dominique says Smith and was the best receiver in the loop. You were like, I like that. Yeah, that's pretty good. I could fool Dominique into thinking I care.

Retribution is the movie, by the way, this week on Cetaphote.

That is impressive, though. As we make it funny for being old, the ability to retain short term things. You're not that old yet.

Thank you that I don't have Alzheimer's. A very impressive bar that Kevin McGonan has. How is Dan? It's always like, How is Dan?

How is down? How is down? You got to suck your teeth first. I get that question every day. It's like, Hey, how are you doing? Are you doing good in Miami?

Fewer than 90 seconds left. I saw a great clip the other day that I want you to tell me how common it is. Hollywood Brown scored on a countdown. They played the Wired for sound. Hollywood Brown comes up to the line of scrimmage, clearly has no idea what the play is, turns to Juju Smith-Schuster and say, What do I have to do here? And he says, You got the shallow route, and then scores a countdown. Had no idea what the play How common is that?

I think it's probably not that common, but more common than you think, which is probably a pretty shitty answer. But every team has at least one guy who never knows what's going on and another guy who knows everybody's job on both sides of the ball. There's normally one or two guys that you know if this is... And it's normally with game plan-specific stuff, where it's like, All right, in cover four, when we see this against this team in this situation, we're going to play this route combination this way. There's always somebody who is like, Uh. And if you've been around long enough, you know, tell them before they ask. You got to tell them before they ask. Hey, we're going to Palms this, where you get the number two to the flat, you got to drive number one. Those are the things. And I mean, in their defense, some of this stuff is unnecessarily byzantine and complicated.

It was pretty great, though, because the next clip I saw, Hollywood Brown scores the countdown. He's running around the sideline talking about how God did that. And then Juju comes over and says, You know I knew the play, You do remember that you didn't know the play before you came to the touch down.

It's very byzantine. Is that what he said?

That's what he said.

Like the Empire?

You turned it into Dan.

It just means like, unnesserrily complicated. So that word was byzantine. Yeah, exactly. Like, Ruud Goldberg would be like a byzantine contraption. Am I gone? I'm not even on there anymore.

Thank you for this podcast experience.

Billy, I love you. You're the best. Okay, bye.

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