Transcript of GBF- Super Week: Cam Jordan, Matthew Berry, Will Shields, NY Jets, Warrick Dunn

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God bless football, it's two guts.

How are you, man?

I'm good. I'm here.

Yeah, well, a lot of people are concerned about you. They're calling you Billy Ill. That's really just me.

Yeah, I don't think a lot of people are calling me that.

Billy Gill. Yeah.

I got a lot of I texted yesterday. Did you? Yeah. I feel like some artistic liberties were being taken with my health. I was asked by multiple people, I heard you're in the hospital, and I said, I am not in the hospital. I was never in the hospital. It seems as though just someone decided to say on air, I was hospitalized. I didn't say that. No, I know it wasn't me.

Okay, it wasn't me. But you thought it was me, right?

No, I know who it was. It was Dan. I know that he said I was in the hospital for some reason.

Did he really? Yes. Glad he has a pulse of his employees. Jeez, Luis. He's in the hospital. I think because he knows you love football so much. He knows you love Radio Rose so much. He just figured it would take something like going to the hospital for you to not be here yesterday.

Well, I'm here today.

You are here. How was your flight?

It was good. I like a good quick flight. The last couple of Super The festivals have been five-hour flights for us. This is a nice quick one up and down an hour 40 more or less.

It was Vegas and Glendale, you're right.

Yeah. Obviously, because I'm me, I had a stressful situation on the flight because when I was getting there, I saw someone at check-in that I recognized. I was like, Should I go up and say hello to this person, or should I not say hello to this person? Because I don't want to be a bother. Sure. Then at the gate, I saw the person, and he had his hoodie on and headphones on. I'm like, I'm I'm not going to talk to him.

You saw a person, you knew who this person was. The person is a celebrity, and unlike me, you were questioning whether or not you should say anything.

Well, it's going to get worse when you find out who it is. Oh, God. I end up then seeing this person at Bagage Claim. I'm like, Well, if I say anything, it'll be now, obviously, because I'm not going to see this person the rest of the week, more than likely. Then other people were talking to this person. I'm like, Okay, before I go, I'm just going to say hello, introduce myself to the person, whatever. Also sitting next to this person, Braxton Berrios, who we're going to talk to this week.

Super Bowl Week radio. That's what happens.

There's people on the flight, obviously, coming from Miami over here to New Orleans. When I saw this person, I figured They're going to be on my flight. I know where they're going. I go up. On the way back, I get my bag and go, and I was like, Hey, how's it going? I'm Billy. I do this show with Studio Atch. We've spoken a couple of times. Good to see you. The guy goes, I know who you are, Billy. I'm like, Yeah, no. We do a show. He's like, I know who you are.

Why are you surprised? People don't know who you are.

You want to know who it was?

I think I have a feeling. Who do you think it was? Rahim Oster. It was Rahim Oster.

It was so awkward. I'm so awkward.

Is he coming out?

I told him, I heard you're busy the night. He's like, Yeah, it's really busy. He's like, I'll find you guys. I'm like, Okay, see you there. I was like, I think I knew. All right, good luck this week. Then I leave and I go to get an Uber. I'm just begging. I'm like, Please Uber, get here fast, because I was already so awkward to begin with. I now don't want to be standing at the Uber check with Rahim the entire time. Make it worse. Exactly. You're right. The less I say, the better. That's generally how my life goes. The less I say, the better.

Fuentes and I came here. Jimmy Johnson was on our flight. I know. There's something that makes me feel good when a coach is on my flight, especially that coach.

Yeah. Why? Because you think that he... I mean, just heaven forbid, you think that a plane crash is not in his future?

Yeah. I feel better when I know. Plus, if something does happen, he's a coach. He's going to spring into action and take care of all of us. That's what coaches do.

I thought that with Rahim, too. I was like, This is good because should anything happen, he'll probably be the first one to take control of the situation, and then I can hop in after. I'm not a first responder situation. I can be guy number two or guy number three.

You can pile on very well. Exactly right. Rahim, you get it started.

Once it's a big crowd, I can get in there. Hey, hey, hey, hey. You know what I mean? It stop things. Should I need to? Did you see the awkwardness on opening night where multiple people ask, or I guess it was probably the same person, asked Patrick Mahomes and asked Travis Kelsey about the refere. They asked, I think Travis Kelsey.

I was on a flight with Jimmy just so you know.

Oh, yeah. It was a little delayed, but Jimmy took care of it. Really? Yeah. That's good. I can't believe that Jimmy still lives in the keys or in Miami or wherever, and then he flies to LA every week to talk football.

We were shocked he didn't fly private, to be honest with you.

I didn't even think that was good.

Let me tell you, it was delayed, but once they realized Jimmy was on the flight, that bird was taken off. Jimmy was not having it. That's true. You were saying about the awkwardness.

Well, I was going to say someone asked Patrick Mahomes, What do you love more? Or what teammates have you in the past, which referee has helped you in the most in the past? They asked him about referees, and they asked Travis Kelsey, Do you love Taylor Swift more? Do you love referees? They call Fantom ruffing the pass to give you 15 yards more. He did not like that question one bit.

It's a good question, though.

Travis Kelsey used to be a staple on these things. Never see him anymore.

You're at big time.

Also, he's always in the Super Bowl.

I can't believe we're 50, Warwick. You and I have grown old together, man.

Hey, It's another year around the sun. We're thankful for that. But being 50, they think the kids are like, Dad, you're old. Yeah, I'm old, man. I'm old.

Kids have a funny way of humbling you, right?

Oh, yeah. They keep you in your place now, but they also keep you active, too. It's important that I stay active, continue to move around. You got to enjoy life, man. So trying to do that.

Tell everyone what you're doing this week, New Orleans Super Bowl week with Smirnov. After that, I want to ask you more questions about being 50, okay?

Oh, yeah. Smirnov, we're doing a huge tailgate, the longest tailgate ever for a Super Bowl. It's going to be a 60-foot truck bed, and we're just going to have a lot of food. The chef is going to be out there cooking working. Just a really great time for people to come out and enjoy themselves. Most importantly, they have to drink responsibly. But come out and just have a great time. I'm going to have other former players out there with me like Vernon Davis and Chris Long. I just think it'll be a great opportunity to come out and just really have a great time and enjoy themselves while they're in New Orleans. It's going to be a fun time. But for me, I'm always going to promote, we got to be responsible, drink responsible, have a great time, engage, just enjoy each other, and just really enjoy that New Orleans feeling. It's really good sometimes to be hanging out on bourbon, but we'll be on Canal Street this weekend.

One of the really good people, one of the really good men to ever play in the NFL, Warrant Dunn is with us here on behalf of Smearnoff. Drink Responsibly, that's a great campaign by you. But I'm wondering, work, you have done so many fantastic things with your life, with your career. What is the thing you are proudest of?

Well, I'm thankful, honestly, that I have the ability just to help people, help change someone's life, impact them, and just doing things in a positive way and helping them have a better future, not just for themselves, but for their kids. It's not just about me, but it's also about building a healthier society, a healthy community so that we can support each other. I'm thankful that I do have the ability to impact communities in a positive way.

In terms of cities, where does New Orleans rank for you?

Well, actually, I was born in New Orleans. I'm a charity baby. I'm a charity baby, born in New Orleans, raised in Baton Rouge. New Orleans, that's home. I have family there. I go back often, and when I do go home, that's when I eat bad. I gained a couple of pounds after being there because the food is so good.

What's your go-to spot?

I just like the food. The food is different in every place, every city. But just having that eating Crawfish etouffé fried catfish, gumbo, zambalaya. I mean, that's money in the bank for me.

Billy, are you taking notes here? Warwick is giving us some advice as to where to go when we make our first trip to New Orleans.

Yeah, Warwick, I'm interested in the cuisine as well, so I've been looking for an expert of sorts. I'm glad that you're giving us this. I have a question for you.

Yes, sir.

Liam Cohn, you want to punch him in the head, right? Responsibly.

Yes.

It'll be a Love Tamp. Yeah.

How do you go from saying, I'm not going to be the head coach, to I'm going back to Tampa and then just disappearing for extended periods of time, and then you reappear like, Here I am, the head coach of the Jaguars.

Well, it's a business. For me, you can't take anything personal. I had to learn that early in life that this is a business, and everybody's going to do, and the teams are going to do what's in their best interest. As a player and I know as coaches, you have to do things that are in your best interest. And so he's looking out for his future and his opportunity, and I can't really be mad at that. It is what it is. This is a business at the same time that we do love the game of football, and it's about team, but the business side comes first.

Warwick, are you a fan of everything that's changed in college football?

No, sir. I'm not. I think when you're thinking about college football, the NIL has definitely just really impacted the game in such a way that kids are supposed to be in college. You can play sports, but you're supposed to be in college to get a degree. Today, it just seems like everything is about the dollar, and they're not going through any adversity. We all came out fine on the other side because we learned some things by going through some adversity. And once we fell down, we got back up and we're able to move in more of a positive direction. And today, if they don't like something, they say, buy it, get in the transfer portal, go to the next location. And they're just chasing the money and not necessarily focusing on the next 20, 30 years of their lives. So for me, I just think the game, they need to take a step back and put some parameters around it because I want the guys to make money, but we need to have some parameters around this game so that it's a game where they're playing at the highest level, but you also have to go through some adversity to get to the other side, understand the journey that it's going to take to become a young man, a great athlete, just a great human being.

If I told you way back when, Deion Sanders would one day be a good head coach, dare I say great head coach, you would have told me what?

Well, I have to say wait and see, right? Because it's hard to say who's going to be what. But I think Deion is taking what he's gotten from other coaches and what he has learned. I think he's trying to instill that in other athletes. So it's about a wait and see game. And for me, it's just you wait and he's still coaching He still has a way to continue to grow and impact guys. So I think it's only a matter of time. We'll see what happens, but it's a wait and see game.

Do you marvel? I mean, you're a former running back. You rushed for, I think, over 10,000 yards during your career. Do you marvel the the way we do at Taquan Barkley?

Well, I like his game. Just so you know, I'm 37 yards shy of 11,000. If I would have got a couple more carries down in Tampa, my early days, I would have been over 11,000. I'm just messing.

Who are we blaming for that? No, there's someone to blame. Who are we blaming for that, Warc? I hear it.

Well, no, no. Think about it. When I first got into the league, I got drafted. I was 177 pounds. And back then, you're not going to let a 170-some pound running back run the ball consistently down in and down out. And whenever he got close to the red zone, they would take me out of the game. So it's just what it is. I played in the era where I was only 185 pound max playing at this level, and I had to prove that I can run the ball inside. I can make guys miss. I can do things that they didn't think I can do. And that was just that chip on my shoulder, but the game has changed today. I've had guys who are playing, said, If I played today, oh my gosh, I can probably do some things. You play a lot longer and make a lot of guys miss. It is what it is, but I think I had a good career. I got over 15,000 yards of total offense, rushing and receiving all purpose yards. I impacted, and I wasn't trying to get hit at all. If you remember, I wasn't trying to get touched on the game.

I remember, yeah.

I wrote a book. I was running for my life, literally. So making sure that I can get up and go on to the next play. But I am thankful. In Saquon, he just really took a step forward. I think just being in Philly after his first year, I think now he his rhythm. Can he maintain that or continue that for the next few years? Time would tell. But right now, he's riding high. Offensively, they're controlling a lot of scrimmage and creating holes and seams for him. He's hitting him at the right time and making guys miss. And that's what's important.

You think with that Eagles's line, you could get the 37 yards you need, maybe two, three games to go out there, 20 carry, something like that? If not the Eagles's, what's the team? Who's the line that gets you the 37 you need? Yeah.

That's a tough one. That's a tough one right there because football has just changed. But just watching Saquon, he's running a little stretch or counter, and he's able to utilize his skills. I think I can probably do that. But you know what? If he just gave me a really good offensive line, I'm going to do my thing. That's all I need. It's good offensive line, and they're going to get all the credit, but I'm going to work hard to get those yards.

We'll have you promote Smirnoff again on the way out here, but one more question before we get to that. The Mount Rushmore of Florida State football, Four names. I need four names, Warwick. The Mount Rushmore of Florida State Football.

The Mount Rushmore of Florida State Football.

Yeah. You can put a coach on there because I know you want to put Coach Bowden on there.

Well, he's the top. It wouldn't be in a Seminole, Florida State without Coach Bowden. It's a lot of great players. There's so many guys I can't really just name for, honestly. The greatest player is... Well, the greatest person is Coach Bauton. Obviously, Deion was a great player. Terrell Buckley was a great player. Charlie Ward. Charlie Ward has to be on there.

Charlie Ward, Deion, Bauton. Those three need to be on there. And dare I say, you're the fourth. For me, you're the fourth.

I'm the fourth? Yes. Well, the thing is people don't know this, that when I went to Florida State, I was supposed to be a defensive back. And I made a deal with Coach Baut, that if you give me an opportunity to play running back, and if it doesn't work out, I'll move the defensive back. But he gave me an opportunity to play running back, and the rest was history after the first week in training camp. So I'm thankful that I was able to go there and definitely impact the school in a positive way. Like I said, run and compete, and I love to compete. I love to compete. I wanted to be where the best were at, and I wanted to show everybody that I can play with the best. That's that competition in me. I don't think it's ever going to go away either.

Listen, I think I left out Derrick Brooks. Who am I taking off? I think I left out- No, Derrick, but that's what I'm saying.

It's so many guys that you can't just pick for. I mean, I love Deion, but, you know, Brooks was a great player. We had great guys on both sides of the ball. I mean, it's the teams that we had that brought it together. Remember, my year was the first year we actually won a national championship. You got a lot of great players that played together, came together, and we all helped each other be the best that we be. Now it's the most important thing. It wasn't just one guy, it was a team. And Coach Bowden was the head of that. He was the one that brought us all together.

Warwick, one more time on the way out here. Tell everyone what you're doing this week, New Orleans Super Bowl Week with Smirnoff.

Well, everyone, please come out. I'll be in New Orleans at the Super Bowl. It's going to be the longest tailgate you've ever been a part of with Smirnoff Ice. We're going to have great food, some Jumbalaya. We're going to have other guys out, Vernon Davis and Chris Long. It's just going to be a great opportunity to come out and just really engage. It's going to be on Canal Street. But if you want to know more, just go to smirnoff. Com and you can sign up, find out the location that we were actually be at. Just come on out. Just have a great time. We can toast each other and have a great time, drink some cocktails. It should be a great It's a great time, family and friends, and just people that love to engage and just really want to enjoy themselves. But we always have to remember that we have to drink responsible. Always. Just let's take care of each other, drink responsible, but we We're going to still go out and have a great time together.

You are a good man. We appreciate the time. Checking him out. Smeared off this week. He's going to be in New Orleans. He's going to be hanging out with Vernon Davis, Chris Long, and others. By the way, 50 looks a lot better on you than it does me, Warc. Thank you for your time, buddy.

Yes, sir. Well, I try to shave all the gray eye. I try to keep it all off.

I'm just unhealthy you. That's all.

Oh, it's all. You're good. Trust me.

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What's your favorite song, Matt?

What? My favorite song. Let us start. My favorite Chesney song?

Yes. No, just your favorite song in general.

My favorite song in general is Son of a Son of a sailor by Jimmy Buffet. Really?

I saw that you went not too long ago to a Jimmy Buffet concert.

I am like you were the dead. That's why I started there, Billy. I'm a Jimmy Buffet. A parrothead? Yes, I'm a parrothead. Are you really? I went to 46 shows before he died. What? Yeah.

You and Greg Cody. Wow.

Crazy pair of heads.

Really? 46. I saw him once, and I'm so glad that I went the one time that I saw him. He puts on a great It's an unbelievable experience. Incredible energy. The crowd is super into it.

I've been told that I've never been to a dead show, but I haven't told it is basically... It's like a dead show where it's tequila instead of pot, basically. But other than that, it's a very same vibe of very welcoming people of all ages. You're just there, and it's all about the tailgating as well.

What's your go-to outfit? Because there are some wild outfits when you go there. You're not a cheeseburger on your head type of guy.

No, I'm usually I usually like just a Hawaiian shirt or a previous Jimmy Buffet concert shirt. In spirit, but not for the coconut bra. You can't have Avery RAD to Barry.

I would like to see you in the coconut bra.

You can't have people taking pictures of you dressed that way.

Exactly.

That's for when you're at home, isn't it, Jimmy?

Did you ever get a chance to meet him?

Yes, multiple times. Really?

Multiple times. Look at you, Barry.

I have a great, and we can do it on the air if you want, but I have a great-We're on the air. Oh, we really are? Yes. That's awesome. It's amazing. I didn't even know we would start it.

I love that. Fantasy football, happy hour.

We really have been on the air this whole time. He just starts.

He just starts. We're talking music. I love this conversation. I want to hear about the times you have met Jimmy Buffet.

I'll give you a great Jimmy Buffet story. I met him a couple of different times. The first time I met him, so when Jimmy was alive, he used to in a show for Series XM called the Bing and Bong Show. He has Margarita radio, which is still on Series XM. The Bing and Bong Show was him and his musical director, Michael Utley. I don't know, 10 minutes before the show, they would either answer viewer questions or they would interview somebody or somebody would interview them. They played these characters Bing and Bong. Their tour manager of 25 years, a guy named Hakey Larson, he's a production manager, dear friend of mine. I was going to a show and he text me and he goes, Do you want to be on the Bing and Bong show? Jimmy would love it. He knows you're a big fan. I'm like, Oh, my God, yes. I'm thinking, I'll do it because I get to meet Jimmy. Of course. Okay, fine. I do the Bing and Bong show. That's in the summer in mansville, Massachusetts. Okay. Maybe eight months later, he plays a New Year's Eve show at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York.

I somehow managed to get front row tickets. Oh, wow. It's New Year's Eve, and it's my wife and I and another couple that we're friends with. The tickets were a surprise. We get there and we're like front row center. I'm hammered, and I'm going crazy. I'm like, I'm Fins up. I'm doing the whole thing. I'm bowing to him. I'm all in. I'm knocking inflatable balls onto the stage. He never once recognizes me or acknowledged me, which is fine. It's totally fine. He's playing with 20,000 people. But never once does he just give me a little look or whatever, everything like that. I'm making a big... I'm like, whatever, who cares? I had a great show.

You're trying to get noticed.

I'm not even trying to get noticed. I was just so into it. I got it. I don't care. Again, I've already met him, but whatever. My point is, he never does. He never acknowledges me. He never looks my way at all. It's fine. Everyone's going crazy. He's playing to 20,000 people. Okay. A year after that, my wife and I and my kids go to the Margaritaville Resort in Florida on vacation. There's one in Hollywood, Florida, which is basically. It's beautiful. It's a great... Anyway, it's a great resort.

It has one of those surfing machines, the Flowrider.

The Flowriders are awesome.

You do not do the Flowrider. It's Margaritaville.

You do the I do. There's a lot you don't know about that. I know, very.

Quite the onion.

The flow rider was great. I literally looked into how much would it cost to get one in my backyard, and then it's crazy expensive. Really? How much? It's well over seven figures. Over? What? Yes. They told me it was like it's one, five to two. I'm like, Really? What? Yeah. You're going to put it in your yard? Yeah, my backyard. I love this.

Matt, I swear I thought you were going to say, So I got one.

No, It's hard to justify. No, no, no. But I thought it could have cost maybe a little bit more than a pool? You know what I mean? That thing. I don't know.

You were thinking this $70,000 range, right? I got it.

Yeah, that's right. Exactly. Finance it a little bit. Is that right?

You can just explain that a way. Over a million dollars.

I have five kids. You know what I mean? You're always looking for... Anyway, whatever. Just send them out there. But the point is, anyway, so randomly, Jimmy Buffet is at this resort at the same I am. He was doing some photoshoot, and they were shooting him at the Margarita Resort. I see him. I just walk up to him and I'm like, Hey, Jimmy, hey, Matthew Berry from ESPN. I'm Hakey's friend. Without missing a beat, he shakes me and he goes, Matthew, so great to see you again. Last time I think we saw you was front row at Barclays on New Year's Eve.

Oh, my God. He noticed.

I'm just like, he met me once for five minutes. So cool. A year and a half previously. Never But then, again, without missing a beat. Later, I'm talking to Hakey and I'm like, Dude, did you tell Jimmy I was going to be here? He goes, No, I haven't talked to Jimmy probably in a week or so. But he goes, I will tell you, that story doesn't surprise me because when he has a mind like a steel trap, he remembers everything. When he's on stage, he doesn't miss a beat. He just sees everything. I've heard stories like that before. Anyway, just- That's very cool. Kind of crazy. Anyway, I'm a massive, I'm a crazy You're really a kid at heart.

You are, Matt, right?

Dude, listen, I'm on TV wearing makeup talking about fake football for a living. My job is- What a gig. Right, exactly. It's ridiculous. They pay Stugatz to talk about fake football and betting on sports. All of us, we have stupid jobs. If you can't be a kid in a candy store, and I'm so lucky, that experience that I just told the ability to meet Jimmy, the ability to get good tickets, the ability to afford good tickets all comes from this dumb place of a job that shouldn't even exist, and it does.

It's all incredibly- It doesn't feel like work, right?

Exactly. It's incredibly lucky, and I'm truly blessed. I cannot be happy.

I want you to get a flowrider. Thank you. I want you to... You deserve it. I want you to get some big deal coming up. It's like, You know what? I'm getting a flowrider for my yard.

Believe me, because we spent me and all my kids We were on that every single day. They're not easy. They're not easy at all. But we took... There's somebody there that there's a flow rider instructor. We took private lessons after the park, I mean, whatever. After it closes, you can get a... The first day, we all tried it. We all loved it. We all fell on our ass in the water. Then they're like, Oh, well, if you want to get a lesson. Me and all five kids and my wife, we got an instructor for an hour, and we just practiced, just the five of us. Then we were competent. And literally every day for the rest of the week, we were there or whatever.

We loved it. It's a dangerous game, so guys. I don't know if you've ever done it. You need to wear the right bathing suit. That thing could come flying at any minute.

I fell down immediately. I needed lessons, apparently. But I want to go- Did you give me the rope?

When I started, they gave me the rope. You started on your knees, too.

It's a whole... It's embarrassing, really, when you start.

It's great. We had so much anyway. I looked into it and then I was like, All right, we're out.

The instructors make it seem like it's the simplest thing. Oh, my God.

He's so annoying. They're doing backwards. I wanted to punch them in the face. That's what you do on vacation, though. You try to relax. I want to go on a Barry family vacation. I mean, your family sounds delightful. Thank you. You can take me and Billy next time?

I don't think he wants us to go on his vacation, though. His vacation is to get away from people.

No, stop it. I have five kids, and my sons are now grown adults. They're 26, 24, 20, and then I have the twin daughters that are 13, so wide range. But at this point now, it's like, the 26-year-old has a serious girlfriend, the 24-year-old... When we go on vacation, it's like 12 people. At this point, I wouldn't even notice you guys are there. You might as well come along. When we go, it's like it's a hole. It's a traveling circus.

You notice when you start paying for us.

Yeah.

Well, maybe he wouldn't.

Honestly, my wife handles all the bills.

Billy, Matthew was nice enough to have me on his show, and I gave a ridiculous He talked about it right when he walked up here because he's still reeling from it. Go ahead and give Billy the take that I gave, and then we'll go from there.

I'm curious because I've got onto a pattern where Stugats will repeat some of these from time to time. I'm wondering if he gave you something fresh.

I wrote it in a book.

Clearly, Billy hasn't read the book.

He published the book. I published the book, right? Yeah, fair enough. Well done.

You put your name on a book that somebody else wrote. Fair enough. I would... His take is that Brian Billick is the greatest coach of all time, that Andy Reid and Bill Belich shouldn't even be in this conversation, but that Brian Billick is the greatest coach of all time. His argument is, and let me tell you what my take on your take is, and then you correct me if I've gotten your take.

I only said he was a better... I said, Do it with Trent Dilfer. That's what I said.

Yeah, that was his basic take. Was that like, Anyone can win a Super Bowl with Tom braided or Patrick Mahomes. Do it with Trent Dilfer the way Brian Billick did.

Or in Joe Gibbs' case, do it with three separate quarterbacks, none of them in the Hall of How about that?

That was his argument was that why is Andy Reid being talked about as potentially the greatest coach of all time? Bill Belichick is a mediocre coach without Tom braided. Brian Billick. He's going to agree with me.

I'm not I'm not agree.

You guys are insane.

Look, I've been flirting with this. Take Matthew and I, and I want you to hear me out on this.

You're working it out on that? Yeah.

George Kittle.

Yeah.

More impressive than Travis, Kelsey, and Gronk. Who has he had?

More impressive is, I don't know, because Gronk and Kelsey have been so clutch in such big moments. Kittle's awesome. I love Kittle. He's great. He's unbelievable. I will say that it's not really a fair comparison because Kittle, like Gronk, are also excellent run blockers. It's unbelievable. I don't think people appreciate how good a blocker Gronk was. I don't think people understand how important Kittle is to the 49ers run game. Kelsi's not a blocker. Kelsi's a big wide receiver.

Kittle's numbers are bad because of the fact that he blocks so much. He can be so much better. Kittle's numbers.

But to Matt's point, Kelsey's more like a wide receiver.

Yeah, exactly. But he's been so clutch for so long in the biggest moments and just so good at just finding spaces. A lot of it we could spend hours and hours talking about. It's so much about showing up on it, who are your teammates?

But do it with Garoppolo.

Now you're talking. You see? Yeah.

Well, prior to this year, this was my argument on Tara McLaurin. I'm like, Tara McLaurin is one of the best wide receiver in the NFL. People are like, and I'm like, look who's throwing him the ball. Then he finally gets a quarterback this year. He finally gets a quarterback this year.

How great was this year for you with the commanders?

It was amazing. It was great. It was found money. Everyone's so upset. I'm Wait, what's that? What have you got?

Our producer made the most useless contribution to this show in the four-year history of this show.

That's saying something.

Yes, it is. You're right. But after a game, he just blurted into a microphone, I feel good for Terry McLaren. And just left it on our laps. I thought he was alone, but apparently he's not.

No, he suffered for so long. I know. This year was amazing. People were upset about the Championship game, and I said, Look, we won four games last year. Our preseason win total, this is the Commanders, was six and a half. We had been in the quarterback desert for years and years and years and years. I said, If you told me before the year, Hey, you guys are going to win 14 games. You're going to win two road playoff games. You're You are going to discover that you have a franchise caliber quarterback, a superstar quarterback for the next 15 years. The only downside is you get your ass kicked in the NFC Championship. Where do I sign?

Sign me up.

Where do I sign right now? I think it was Peter Schrager that put this tweet out. I apologize if it wasn't, but in terms of rookie quarterbacks in the championship game and the defenses they had. Flacko, Rothsberger, Sean King with Tampa Bay, Brock Purdy, they all had top three defenses. Jaden Daniels had defense number 18. Wow. My argument is that Jaden Daniels… There's so many things impressive about Daniels' year this year, but one of them is that he actually played with worse talent around him this year than he did his final year in college. Correct. That's crazy. He had Malik Nabors and Brian Thomas in his senior year in college.

Yes.

This year, he had Alamedae Zakeas and Diemi Brown. You want to kill that team last year. Noah Brown, right. He had Terry McLorn. Zackerts had an amazing year. Zackerts was out of football last year. It's just that he was able to do that. Credit to Cliff Kingsbury, credit to Dan Quinn, credit to the entire organization. But like, faith in five, man. That kid is special.

I know you don't typically take quarterbacks with the first overall pick in a fantasy draft, but because of his running ability in the upside, do you think he could go number one next year?

I don't. I mean, even me, I'm as homer as they come.

Running is important.

It is, but I'm a QB3. I have Alan and Jackson over him. But I think he will go in the top five of fantasy drafts next year. I think I could see people putting Burrow ahead of him. I could see people drafting Jalen Hertz ahead of him. But for me, Jane Daniels is three. I think the hype on him is going to be so real, especially because I think the commanders, obviously, they're going to fix the offensive line. They'll add another receiving weapon, whether it's Tee Higgins, whether it's... I've heard Godwin, maybe they'll be in on Cup, who knows? But they'll add to that receiving core. It's not just going to be Terry McLaurin next year.

Billy's talking about all the time, as you get deeper into the playoffs, there's only four teams, you're doing your weekly fantasy, it becomes more and more difficult. This week's tough.

Everyone has the same players. Especially when you do a draft, you have a budget, you're even taking the same players.

That's where you have to go variance. You win That's where you have to... Exactly. If you were doing a game for this one, you're like, Oh, hey, Juju Smith-Schuster. Do we think he pops up.

Matt Collins was my guy all season.

He was so cheap. He was so great. He finally had a game. Yeah, Matt Collins is great.

It's in the margins, huh? Yeah.

I think he'll be semi-popular, but I think Dallas Goddard has a big game on Super Bowl Sunday.

You almost have to take a flyer and just take Carson once. No, you'd be the only one who has them. What if Mahomes goes down?

That's a little bit crazy. But do you take like- You're not going to win anyway. Do you take Jake Elliott? Does it turn into a field goal battle? Jake Elliott, who struggled throughout the playoffs in this year, does he suddenly come up clutch and kick five field goals? Who knows? I want Billy's take, though, on your Billick take? Your Belichick overrated take.

I hate to tell you, I think he agrees with it.

I don't agree with it, but- Listen, Belichick's a great coach.

I'm just saying the record without braided is below 500.

Grave of you to go out on that limit. Thank you.

He's a great coach. It's hard to say he's not. I'll say this. He benefited from a great quarter.

It may be in his book, that's probably Chapter 17 or something. People are not getting to that chapter. I'm going to give that fresh for you.

Yeah, I appreciate that.

I haven't heard it yet.

I'll tell you a Belichick story. Okay. I was going to tell you two, but I think one actually you guys had on your show. But the first one is, I remember I was talking to Teddy Brusky at ESPN, and I was like, Hey, Belichick. How brilliant is Belichick? That thing. He told me a story. He says, My second week, he goes, My second week of my rookie year, we're on the road somewhere, and I go to the practice field and I'm looking around and I'm like, Hey, where's the play clock? Where's the play clock? He's like, My position coach goes, Oh, it's up there in the corner. He's like, Why'd they move it? He goes, Well, the stadium we're playing at this weekend, that's where the play clock is. They have it all the way up in the corner. You want to practice knowing where the play clock is.

Attention to detail.

It's attention to detail. Teddy just said, Throughout my career, there were plays that I missed. There were plays that I didn't take the right angle or that I didn't do well. But there was never a play I wasn't prepared for. There was never something that an offense did that I hadn't seen on film or been talked to before that week. He's like, I mean, who thinks of that? Like, oh, we should practice where the play clock is. I was just like, oh, damn. Dev McCorty said the same thing, and I know he said it on some show, and it might have been this one, I think. But Dev McCorty told me the same thing that their first game at MetLife, when he was playing the Jets, he's just like, oh, the wind carries a ball. He goes, if you're on a go route, whatever, just play back a little bit because the ball is going to get caught up in there. That's exactly what happened. He ended up getting an interception. I think on I don't know.

You love the attention to detail. Just speaking to what a great coach he is.

I'm not even a Patriots guy. I'm a Commanders fan. But respect.

Somehow I have made you defend Bill Bowe. I know. It's ridiculous. But respect.

Give the man respect. But when Teddy told me that story, which is such a small little story, but I just thought that was like... Yeah. It was cool. Who would think of that? Yeah, who would think of that?

All right. Your people are asking you to leave now. You have to get back to your MBC responsible. That's exactly. Fantasy football, happy hour. Fantasy life, promote them, Matt.

We're all friends on the cock, on Peacock now. The cock, yeah. Exactly. We love the cock. Somebody clipped that. What happened? We follow you guys. We follow the Dan Levatard show on Peacock, especially all this week. We're live from Radio Row here in New Orleans, so check that out. It's also available wherever you get podcasts or on the NFL and NBC YouTube channel. Of course, fantasylife. Com, where we have a free tools, free newsletter as well. If you play fantasy sports, if you bet on the game, we have a bunch of free betting advice, free betting tools, parlay builders, etc. Fantasylife. Com.

We enjoy our sit down with you every single year. Always. You're a good man. Thank you, brother. And you have a great family. Billy and I look forward to the next family vacation.

Somebody go get me a flow rider sponsorship.

Matt, before you go, look at me in the eyes right now. I love you. I love you. There you go.

All right, brother. There it is. Appreciate you guys.

Thank you, man. Taylor Rook's with us here. Radio Row, New Orleans. It is Super Bowl Week, Chiefs and Eagles, the P&G Battle of the Paddles. Tell us about what you're doing there, Taylor.

Yeah. So P&G, third annual Battle of the Paddles event. Going to be playing some ping pong with some of our favorite NFL players. I'm teamed up with Kirk Cousins. We're going up against Micah Parsons, Chris Olabe, Drake May, who are also teamed up with other celebrity fans. And it's going to be good. Single We play to 11, got a win by two. I'm excited. I'm not an advanced ping pong player, but I feel like I'm good enough to hold my own. But I'm hoping that Kirk Cousins just puts the team on his back and we can get the win in this one.

All right. So do you know if Kirk is even good at ping-pong?

Honestly, I don't. But I am a Falcons fan. I am from Georgia, so he is one of my two Bs. I have faith in him. But honestly, something about Kirk strikes me as someone who's played ping-pong in his day. He gives me that vibe.

Really? And what would that be, if you don't mind me asking?

I remember I interviewed Kirk, and he said, My teammates always say I have the dad's swag, but I think my swag has no swag. If I can just see that person being an expert on the ping-pong table. That's how I envision Kirk. I think he's good at probably a lot of alt sports.

What have you been doing to prepare for this? You say you're a novice amateur ping-pong player. You're not good, you're not great, you're not terrible, though. Have you been practicing? What have you been doing?

I've done some light practicing. I may have stopped at a bar There are two that have teams on the table.

I've learned that I have a much better backhand than I do beforehand.

There's something about the control when you're going that way with the backhand. I need to improve my serve just a bit. But honestly, this is my thing with PNG Battle of the Paddles, which obviously I'm super, super excited to be a part of it. And I wanted to give you tips. I love this.

You need to learn how to slice, okay? No top spin. Don't You're trying to hit it hard. Just slice your back end, slice your forehead, because what happens when you slice is the ball bounces and it comes back towards the net. Okay?

What's the key to a good slice?

You have to trying to go from up to down, like this motion. You see the motion I'm making? You have to go up to down. Yes. This is good.

If you have any more tips, please, because I really want to beat Micah. Okay.

Wait, you want to beat who? Who'd you say? You want to beat Micah? I don't need Micah because all Micah is about to do is talk trash in a regular distance. Okay. Who is the best ping-pong player of the group? Do you know?

I really don't know. I hope it's Kirk.

I'll say that. It better be. It's over here. This is so good. I love this. I love ping-pong. Listen, sandpaper rackets. I don't know if you have those. Those help velocity, and then the under-spin, okay?

Under-spin. Okay, so slice.

Yes.

Get to a sandpaper racket, and then you're going to figure out your under spin.

Yes. Again, the slice is all about the angle, so the ball is going to bounce this way as opposed to going right to them, right? Make them move. Make them do something. Yeah, get mobile.

Get mobile, get active. Tell me what you got. I'm with it. It was very helpful. I'm not just saying that. I will be.

When you're watching G&D by the channels, you're streaming on Complex's YouTube channel.

If you need to do the slice, just know it was for you.

Taylor, I'm telling you right now, I'm going to watch it. I am. I'm going to watch it. If I don't see a slice backhand out of you, I'm going to be very, very... I'm going to bring you back on and I'm going to be very upset. I'm going to to you about this, and I'm going to teach you how to do the slice back in, okay?

All in on that. Now I'm like, Okay, I need to get my slice over the neck. That's my fear now. It's like, It's going to go all the way, but I got you. I'll be working on it.

Are you excited for the game this weekend?

I'm so excited. I can't wait to be in the building. I love the energy of the Super Bowl, so it's going to be great. Of course, an amazing matchup. Coincidentally enough, the first PNG Battle of the Paddles was the same matchup. It was the Eagles' Chiefs. Wow. A little deja vu, but I think that this year, I'm going to win Battle of the Paddles. Tbd.

Okay. The first Battle of the Paddles, it was the Chiefs who won the Super Bowl. This year, you're saying you're going to win the Battle of the Paddles. Who's going to win the Super Bowl?

I am not a person. It's very clear to me that so many people are like, anti-chiefs. They don't want the Chiefs to win. I don't feel that way. I think it's really great that we get to watch greatness, and if they win, I'd be happy for this to repeat and be there to watch history. So if Chiefs win, amazing good for them. I would personally love to see the Eagles win. So I will be with my fan hat on, be rooting for the Eagles. I just love what Saquon has been able to do this year. Happy that Jalen is back in the Super Bowl. I just like the story of it. So I think that's who I'm going to go with.

Do you have Philadelphia ties?

Well, I'm very, very close with Saquon and his family. Okay. Saquan since he first got into the league. It's funny. So every year, obviously, Saquon's birthday is February ninth. So this year, he's playing the Super Bowl on his birthday. But every year, we always do something really big with his family. Three years ago, we all did Mexico. The other year, we just rented out the spot and did a big dinner. After week one this year, I texted and said, I just have a feeling that this is going to be the first year that we are at the Super Bowl. Why do you know? I'm rooting for the Eagles for sure.

Okay. That is an amazing story.

It's pretty crazy, right?

I saw it.

I saw the vision early.

Yeah. No, that's incredible. But since you're so close with him, was he as shocked as everyone else was when the Giants let him go and went to the Eagles? I mean, it's ridiculous.

Well, I think that at this rate, Saquon just loves the story that he now has. He went to this new team and just found new life. I interviewed him for our Thursday night football game that we had with the Eagles. He was just like, I didn't know what my value was going to be, and I didn't know what people thought my worth was going to be. He was like, I've learned through this that all of those are just words. What one person thinks about you is different than what somebody else does. Sure. He's just obviously all in with Philly and loves this circumstance and loves his teammate. But I mean, of course, winning is very fun, so I'd love it, too.

Have you planned the birthday celebration, if indeed, the Eagles win the Super Bowl on Sunday? Like the post-birth celebration?

I'm sure they have that all figured out, but I know it's a birthday So regardless, there will be some celebration of life. But I know his mind is mainly on winning that game. It's all his friends and family that care about the birthday. He's like, I have a Super Bowl to win.

Listen, the reason you saw it was because he's no longer on the Giants, and you knew the Eagles had a legitimate shot of making it to a Super Bowl. That's a good job out of you, Taylor. Okay?

Hey, what can I say? Now, you know what? Me winning Battle of the Paddles. I got to manifest that.

Yes. I know you have to get out of here. We appreciate the time. Png, Battle of the Paddles. One more time. Promote it on the way out.

Yes, PNG, Battle of the Paddles. Tune in, watch some of your favorite NFL players go against one another in a double single elimination tournament, playing some ping-pong will be streaming on Complex's YouTube channel, Wednesday at 7 Eastern Time.

All right. You gave me a reason. You gave me a reason to watch Slice Backhand Only, not Forehand. Forehand, little top spin, backhand slice, okay? Got you. All right. You're going to win it, Taylor. I feel it, all right?

I do, too. I appreciate the tip.

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Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad. How are you doing? Will Shills.

One of the all-time greats. How often, like, percentage of How many times you have that ring on your finger?

That's a nice looking ring, Billy.

I would say 30, 30% of the time.

Just 30? Will.

Special occasions. You ever shower it in? Just in case I walk into the bedroom, I pick it up and put it on and then put it back down.

Have you ever lost it?

No, actually, I've had it stolen once, though. Really? What happened? We were in Colorado and we were visiting my son, and they actually broke into the car and stole it out of the car.

Wow. Why did you get it back? Yeah, but why did you keep it in the car?

Well, I wasn't really thinking. I just gave a speech and all this other stuff. I had my high school and all that other stuff, and wasn't really thinking out there, so it happened.

Will is with us here on behalf of the NFL alumni, and the Gear Up campaign. Tell us what you're doing this week with the NFL alumni.

Well, we're talking about Gear Up for Cancer. Basically, we're trying to let everybody know once you reach the age of 45, you need to have your colonoscopy, which is the one thing that most people don't want to talk about. But it is part of the cancer thing that you can actually screen for and that you can survive from. I think most people don't realize it's just getting tested to find out what's going on, and that makes a big difference. I think that's where we're talking about Gear up for it. Make sure that once you're 45 or above, get your test done so that you know that you can take care of your life. I know there's a lot of things out there, but this is one that I think is very important for our community.

Are you impressed? The chiefs, Patrick Mahomes, Thriekins, you're a former chief. You're a former great. I'm wondering, do you watch this team and do you marvel at them the way we do?

I do. I have fun watching it. Really? It's really cool. Because I'm closer to it, I guess, it's a lot more fun because I can yell at the TV and look at it and say- You're a yeller at the TV when you're on football?

You're like us.

Because you personally know some of the guys. You're going, Man, what did you do that for?

When does that stop? When does that stop? That's going on forever.

Oh, yeah. If you love a game and love a sport, of course you are. I mean, that's part of it. I mean, that's the ebb and flow of it. Or you say, Hey, I'm going to change the mojo, so I'm going to move from the kitchen to the living room.

You don't do that. You don't do that. Well, sure. This is us. This is amazing. I He's doing it all the time. It never works for the Jets. I'm a Jet fan.

There's only so much you can do.

That face he just made.

There's only so much you can change on that. Got a new coach, which is awesome.

Wait till I get to see.

We'll see.

What are you yelling at the TV? Are you yelling Give us an example. Pi.

No, all of that stuff I don't yell at. It's more or less watching technique. I watch certain things and I was like, Oh, man, how did you miss... Hey, how did you not see that guy doing this? Or how did you not see that rotation?

Because they're not as great as you, Will Shields.

No, it's just because that's how I watch the game. I'm watching my guards and my tackles, and I'm going, Oh, that's a bad set. Oh, you didn't use your hands or this stuff. How do you recover?

How tired are you of the question of the The phantom penalties that Patrick some benefits from a little bit.

It comes with winning, I think.

There are certain things you can't control. That's the one thing about it. It's not like he's, Hey, begging for it or what have you. I mean, you could make anything spin the way you want to say it spin. You're looking at it and they're He's going, Oh, well, he was asking the rest to let him know when he was near. I was like, No, he wasn't talking about the guy. He's talking about his offensive tackle. Some people are knowledge-based, it's understanding. Yeah, there are some penalties that you look at and be like, Oh, yeah, that could have went either way. I think when you're winning, it makes it harder. I think that's the whole thing because it used to be us thinking about the Patriots.

Yeah, exactly right. We thought the same exact thing. Yes. They thought it about Jordan and the Bulls, too.

I was wondering if the Chiefs' Fandam minded that at all or if the football player was like, I don't know about this one.

Yeah, penalty is a penalty. You look at it and you're going, Oh, yeah, I wouldn't have called that. I would have did this. We're just as judgmental on our own teams. If you're really a player, you're just as judgmental on your own team as you're on others. You're looking like, Oh, man, he got away with that, or this person did this or this, that, and the other. Or you go, Yeah, we did get a call.

Was there a D-lineman that kept you up at night? You were so great at your job. Was there a guy you had your face on Sunday where you were like, Man, I'm not going to sleep the night before?

There's a few of them. John Randall was the main one that was a beast. He's crazy, that guy. Oh, man, he would give me fits all the time. He's one of those guys you'd be like, I got to face him this week. I got to do some extra work. I got to do some extra study, and I got to figure all that good stuff But he was that guy that basically would give me fits. My rookie year is when we first met, and we're at training camp, and he shows up and he's going, Hey, man. He's talking back and forth of, Hey, what's going on? He's doing this little arm thing and all of that good stuff. It was fun to just sit there, and I'm sitting there as a rookie going, I got to block this? This is what's going to happen? I was like, Oh, my goodness, this is going to be crazy. On that line, they had three Hall of Famers. Yes. We got indoctrinated by them as in the rookie year. But it was good because it set-Cris Dolman and those guys? Yeah, but it set the tone for where I wanted to be for the rest of my career.

Billy, this is interesting because Will Shields won the Walter Payton Man of the Year Award. We have someone on our show, Greg Cody a calmness for the Miami Harold, who made a very controversial statement saying he would rather win, and most players would rather win, the Super Bowl MVP as opposed to winning the Walter Payton Man of the Year Award.

The most prestigious.

What are your thoughts there?

Well, I think first and foremost-He wasn't trying to discount the importance of the award.

He didn't mention you specifically.

I get that. But when you walk your way down that path and you look at it and you see how many people have actually made it to the Super Bowl, how are you going to be that person that's going to win the MVP if you can't get there? True. That makes it hard, where Walter Payton Man of the Year is about your community service, what you've done and how you build it, and how you bring your teammates and your community together. There's a difference within that parameter. You might not win that MVP during the year, but for your community, you're the MVP, man. You've actually done enough work to put in to where somebody noticed that you've done something enough and be able to make it happen and change somebody's life.

Listen, you can't win a Super Bowl unless you make it to the Super Bowl. He's right, Billy. You know what you can do? All you can do is be a good person. Exactly. Tell Greg Cody, you want to tell him to go believe himself? What do you want to do? Go ahead, tell him. He'll take it. Okay, go ahead.

I wouldn't tell him that. I just say, Hey, you just got to understand where you're coming from. We know that, hey, there's only so many teams that's going to get to the Super Bowl and be MVP. It would be nice. It would be nice to have a Super Bowl ring or whatever that is. I said, But there's only one ring given out to one team. Where the Walter Payton Man of Year, there's only one person that actually receives that every year, and it's for the work you did in your community. I think both of them are valuable, but I think for me, I'm happy with the one I got. I wish I would have gotten the other one, but you can only get what you can take.

Well, hold on. A devil's advocate here. If you could trade Man of the Year for Super Bowl MVP, would you?

No.

Good. He's a good guy. He is a good guy.

I like it. That's why he won the Walter Payton Man of the Year award.

Walter Payton Man of the Year. Some people are out here and they're saying, you know what?

I'm going to tell Greg Cody to go sleep himself. Exactly right.

People are out here selling mustard. They're selling different things. What's he saying? Hey, you should get screen Cancer.

He's a good guy. Tell us one more time all the way out. We appreciate it.

Well, we're here for the NFL Alumni, and actually it's NFLA Gear Up backslash cancer, so that you guys can actually go and get your screening. We're actually coming to here, actually in the next couple of months and doing major screenings. We have four different places that we're doing it right now, but we're also going to take the show on the road so that everybody can get the screenings done so that they can make sure that they're as healthy as they can be to live as long as you can.

Molenoscopy Road Show. Yes, sir. I like it. You're not performing them.

No. I've already had mine. Sorry, I don't want to go anywhere.

Are you taking the eagles?

Come on, man. You should know.

I was trying to make you into that terrible job, I mean.

I can't believe someone stole that ring. They saw that ring, they saw your name on it. They're like, You know what? Taking this is a good idea.

No, the thing that shocked me more is he kept it in the car.

Look, I'm not a car.

It's one of those things that when you're packing stuff up and you got them bags and everything else. It was like, it just gets your brain.

Exactly right.

Hey, I'm going to go for a walk over here across the thing. I'm going to wear it as I go up this mountain and then come back down. You would never imagine like, Oh, I I got something in there, and I was like, Yeah, I did.

If I break into a car, I see that. I'm closing the car. I'm trying to fix the window however I got in, and I'm running the hell away from it.

When you go in for the car, you walk out with the ring. You don't want the car anymore.

What's the ring? It never showed up again, so I don't think they got too much for it.

Will Shields, I have to tell you something, man. I love you. Well, thank you.

All right. I appreciate it.

Thank you for your time, sir. No problem.

Thank you, guys.

We appreciate it. We appreciate it. Keep up the good work and enjoy the game this weekend. I will. All Billy asked, Ed McAfree is with us, and I'm excited about this. We'll talk to him about self and McAfree brands. He has Rocky Mountain mustard, protein bites. He's got a lot going on right now. Radio Rose Super Bowl week. He asked me if I wrote this book, and Billy responded, Well, not exactly. The content is yours. It's a great question. Thank you, Ed.

Yeah, the content is yours.

Thank you. The content is mine. Someone transcribe the content onto paper because I can't do that. I can't write.

I don't think you could even read my writing. I'm not a typer. Who has time to go through a spell check?

That's exactly right.

I'll give you the story and you just put it down on the paper.

Ed actually put it perfectly. He still got it moving forward. I think you should say this. He said, You published a book, which is exactly right.

You published a book. Listen, it pays the same. I'm good with it.

But still, life is about stories and storytelling, and the stories are yours. The content is yours. Thank you. Somebody else can do the hard. We can talk walk to them and let them write it down, right?

Listen, you get me. Yeah. You get me. Tell us what you're doing here. Aself and Macafry Brands, Rocky Mountain Mustard. You have protein bites. There's some bags right in front of us here. How did you get into this?

Well, thank you for asking. You got it. God bless football and God bless Macafry Brands protein bites. I'm so proud of this. I've been in the food product business for over 25 years. I had mustards and horseradish sauces, which I still sell to this day, that I've been selling since the '90s. I did it because a friend of mine introduced me to the idea of having food products. We also had at one time, Ed's Enzo Nose, which was a frost cheerio. The box was really... It was a cool box. It was a collectible. The quality of the cereal was just okay, not great. But I was still playing. We were winning Super Bowl. It was a fun thing to do. We had Eddie Mac and Cheese.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I love you. Eddie Mac and Cheese. I love this. He was so proud of that. Yeah.

Eddie Mac and Cheese.

It was good. It was good. But the mustard that we made was phenomenal. I met this family that's been in the industry for 100 years. They came over from Germany and made spicy brown mustard. It helped me come up with a recipe that I was proud to put my name on. The mustard has sells, even though now I'm Christian or Luke's dad, or I'm the mustard guy for kids because they have it in their fridge. It's sold because it's a great product. That's how it sells for 25 years. I stopped coaching a couple of years ago. I partnered with my business partner to try to grow our business. We expanded our lines of mustard and horseradish sauces, which you can buy either online or in King Supers and Safeways in city markets in Colorado. But I wanted to create a healthy snack for everybody. I have four boys. My wife Lisa and I are in cars, driving them into practices in games, driving carpool at school. They always are hungry and need something to eat. If kids don't get their sleep or don't eat properly, they're a handful. Something that's easily digestible. I got a couple of kids that have some allergy issues.

What is gluten-free, non-GMO, healthy that tastes great? Because how many healthy foods taste awful? It's like you're chewing on cardboard, right? Exactly, you're right. It's like you're chewing on the heel of your shoe and you can barely stomach them. I'm like, What can every kid eat, regardless of allergies, that is healthy for you but tastes great. It took me forever to find a manufacturer that could create these because I think they're delicious. Now, I want to hear what you guys have to say. At some point during the week, try them. All right, try right now. We're going to try right now. It'll be honest positive feedback. But these, again, are super healthy, gluten-free, non-GMO, vegan. They're made with all natural premium ingredients. They're very low calories as well, but they have protein in them. A lot of the unhealthy snacks don't have any protein. I don't think people consume enough protein throughout the day.

Here's the thing, Ed. It's so incredibly important. You say non-GMO, you say gluten-free, all this stuff, and I'm like, I don't know. Then I open it, sprinkles, I'm in.

Like a little Frosting. A little Frosting, yeah. The I just had the chocolate chip cookie. Listen, I'm being serious. Please be serious. These are delicious. They really are. Ed, I love you. Thank you. I love you, too. You know what?

You just sold a couple of books.

There you go. You're going to buy a couple of books?

Don't Don't even give me one for free.

I'm buying them online.

But so far, we've gotten such great positive feedback. Everyone seems to like them, and I'm so excited because they actually taste good. I'm glad you like them as well. I'm sure eventually there'll be some curmudgeon that doesn't like them. But it's so hard to get a good tasting healthy snack food. You should still eat healthy breakfast, lunch, and dinner. But that time before dinner, it's still a couple hours away or during the show, right? You can't throw down a cheese steak here while you're trying to do your show. No. Slop all over the place. No. Feel bloated all day long. This gives you a little pop, a little energy throughout the day. You're eating healthy, you're doing what's right for your body, but it also tastes good and you're not chewing on cardboard.

Of all the things you talked about today, I think the thing I'd most be proud of is being known as the Mustard Man. Yeah. I think I would.

Not the father of two NFL players.

He was an NFL player. It's not a big deal to him.

My goal is to one day be the Mustard King of Castle Rock, Colorado. Really? I'm on my way, but I'm not there yet.

How do we get you there?

Goals. Share them with the universe.

Who's the present Mustard King?

When you wrote the book, you shared it with the universe. Of course, I did. I'm going to write a book. Well, there's some pretty stiff competition there in Colorado. Really? But I'm going to get there. I'm going to get there.

Completely unfamiliar with the mustering competitions in Colorado.

He doesn't want to name names. He doesn't want to promote their brand.

With your endorsement and your support, I I can get there, guys.

You know what? I was thinking about this, okay? The Golic family is right next to us. The Manning family gets all this love. Why does the McAfree family, you played in the NFL, you won Super Bowl, you have two sons. Why are you not the first family of football?

We were talking about all the father and son and brother combinations, and the Matthews family has got uncles and fathers and players. There's so many great football families. I don't think you can beat the Manning brothers. Their dad played, and they both won two Super Bowl You got Arch coming up. I'm surprised that more professional athletes don't have their kids that follow in their footsteps because obviously, if they're genetically blessed, it's probably a... There's people in venture capital and private equity in Silicon Valley whose kids go into venture capital and private equity. They grow up around it and they fall in love with the sport. I think it's the greatest sport in the world. But I have four boys, my oldest son, Max. They're on this picture, by the way. Yeah, it's beautiful.

Very nice.

If it was the NIL, they could have cashed in college.

Well, maybe they still get. My oldest son, Max, coaches for the Dolphins.

I'm so proud of him. He played in the league five or six years, fell in love with coaching. Christian, obviously, is playing with the 49ers. My son Dylan played at Michigan, played FBS football. I got to coach him a year. He's now a fisherman in Hilton Head Island. If you ever want to go fishing for some redfish in South Carolina, let me know.

But he helped-I'm going to let you know. I think I will.

He's been part of this whole Macafry brand. He's no longer playing football, but he has really helped us develop this product. As a fisherman, he's out on the boat all day long and very outdoorsy and hunting, fishing, you name it. He carries them around. But he's been very helpful with the brand. It's been fun to work with him. Then Luke was a rookie with the Washington Commanders this season. Lisa and I still travel to games every single week. Every single week, we're watching an NFL football game, and when we're not there in person, we're watching games on television. Sometimes we're at the game with an iPad watching them at the same time.

I'm reading between the lines here, Stugats. Ed didn't say this. He'd never I'll say this, but he said, A little bit easy for Christian. He had all these genetics. All he had to do was fulfill his destiny. Unlike Ed. Ed had to come in here. Ed had to work. Not only did Ed, Ed didn't have a leg up in the NFL, and he didn't have a leg up in the mustard industry either. He didn't have protein bikes. Paving his own way.

Exactly, right. Paving the way, baby. We were talking about that. You're talking to all these NFL families, right? It's a blessing and it's a curse. Genetically, you got to be talented enough to play in the NFL. I don't care who you are, what your name is. If you're not physically gifted, you can't be of the best 0. 001% of the people at what you do. But it requires a lot of hard work and determination. Nobody in my family played pro sports, and I was the oldest of five kids. The expectations for me were zero. Do whatever you want. What do we care? But when you're the kid-They were just happy you weren't getting in trouble, right?

Yeah.

Football for me was like cheap babysitting. Hey, we're going to practice. What practice? Football. Really? I didn't know I was on a team.

Coach is looking after you.

Drops me off with a water and you start running laps. What are we doing here? It was. You got five kids, you're parents, you got three kids in three years, and all of a sudden you're like, They got to be participating in activities. Get out of the house. It wasn't fun in the beginning, but I fell in love with it. But when My kids have pressures I never had. These guys that you're talking about that grew up, like the Manning brothers, even, their dad played in the NFL. Who knew they were going to be as good as they were? But they're probably, when they were younger, always getting compared to their dad. Of course. If you're not an NFL player, then you didn't live up to expectations. I never had to deal with any of that. I know a lot of pro athletes in football and other sports, they don't even want their kid to play the sport. I don't want them to have to endure that criticism or pressure. Lisa and I never sign them up. Interesting. We said, You have to do something. You're not going to sit around the house playing video games all day.

Like my kids. But be part of stem. Hey, join the chess team, play sports if you want, but you have to be engaged. Follow your passions. What is it you love to do? We made sure they had to do something, but we let them choose. When they asked, it was my oldest son, Max, when he was nine, had a friend that played football. He was like, Hey, can I sign up for football? We're like, Sure. We weren't going to prevent him from playing if that's what they wanted to do. As soon as Christian saw Max playing, he couldn't get enough of it. Then his little brothers followed.

As the father of an athlete who's playing at Northwest in Lacrosse, women's Lacrosse, which is the pinnacle of her sport, I imagine that watching your sons do it, play football, is more gratifying for you than you playing yourself, You want more for your kids than you playing for yourself.

Every parent I talk to, you got a son, you got a daughter. It doesn't matter what sport it is. It doesn't matter if they're singers or actors. You want them to succeed so well more than you've ever wanted it for yourself. That's the blessing of being a parent. It's also one of the most challenging things because you can't do anything about it. It's hard. Win, lose, or draw, we're here for you. We love you. I'm not on the field. I can't make a play for you. One of the reasons my kids love to lacrosse is because I didn't play lacrosse. Really? Yeah. They're like, All right.

So they want to do something dad didn't do. Just the dad.

You don't even know what you're talking about. Then I started studying up and I tried to give them one tip. I'm like, You got to bend your knees and keep your arm straight when you're scooping. They're like, Shut up.

That's a very generic tip right there.

You're ruining lacrosse for me.

I'm lucky in that I haven't been great at anything, so my children have nothing to compare themselves to.

Right.

Have you tracked your field?

Let me ask you something. Is there a rival condiment to mustard? Let's say some of your children come out, like Luke or Dylan, they say, You know what? We want to come after the throne, but we're going to go against mustard. Is ketchup your rival?

No, it's not a rival. It's a completely different category. Okay. Oh, wow. Yeah. There's some, obviously, high Heinz is by far the number one ketchup on the planet. But they got some pressure with some-Heinz can get out of here. Well, yeah, some competitors jumped up and produced ketchup without corn syrup because of health concerns. Then Heinz copied them and did the same thing because you have to follow the trends and you want to be health conscious. But think about it, there's so many... I'm not going to name the names. There's so many very popular mustard brands that are in every grocery store on the planet. But what we've been able to do is, one, create a phenomenal product. Our spicy brown mustard, I would put next to any mustard on the planet. There's not a better spicy brown mustard on the planet Earth than what we produce. Really? It's absolutely delicious. You can't beat it, which is why it's still sold after 25 years. But we've also to create a little bit of a niche in our business because the bigger brands don't always want to experiment with new flavors and new products. We've created a Chipotle mustard.

You don't find a lot of Chipotle mustards. We have a Sriracha. We have a squeezed bottle with horseradish sauce. It tastes delicious. We came out with a smoky horseradish, slightly different flavor. The bigger companies are making so much money and have so much success with their main brands. They don't need the brand shop in the different categories. We can be nimble and quick, which is what we have to do. We can provide our main retailer is King Super's in Colorado, which is owned by Kroger and City Markets. When they want to come up with a new product because of the changing demographics or for any other reason, we can work really quickly. We're more like a speed boat than an aircraft carrier. That's been a very efficient and successful thing for us to do. Over the years, when they've needed honey mustard, we created honey mustard. Dajon, we created Dajon. We'll continue to do I think that's where we fit in. It's tough to stand toe to toe with billion-dollar corporations. We're a mom and pop, small company, make healthy food, make good tasting food.

Billy, what do you imagine it to be like? We spent some time with him. When he's on the sidelines or he's in the stands and he's watching his kids play football and something doesn't go their way? What do you imagine him to be like? Because he's right, it is difficult. Not like this. Not as cool as he's being right now.

Oh, thank you. I didn't know where that was going.

No, you're very cool. You're a great guy, very relaxed. But are you relaxed when you're watching them?

I am now, but as a parent, look, we're just talking parents. You love your kid, you want them to succeed. There's probably going to be a time throughout their childhood where you're more relaxed and you're saying and doing the right things and you're there for them. You're not making it about you. Then there's probably a time for whatever reason where you get too intense. I've gone through that. There was a time where I was sitting up in the stands and my wife's like, I'm not even going to sit next to you.

Of course.

You know what? In those moments, I realized me having any anxiety, it's not helping them, but it's also pushing me away from my wife who I love and maybe my other kids. It's challenging to be a parent. I respect parents. The number one thing you can do is love them and support them. They just want to know you're there for them no matter what happens. One of the challenges for me, because I coached all my kids, is knowing when to take the coach's cap off. They don't need it on the ride home.

Just be dad.

They don't need it at the dinner table. Now I'm at the point where if they ask me, I'll volunteer advice, but if they do not ask me, I will not volunteer advice.

Right. Makes sense. Do you ever wear the three Super Bowl rings just to remind them, Hey, dad's got three of these? You know what?

I don't have. Only recently, I wanted to buy Lombardi trophies and put them up in my house, and I've never displayed my rings because going back to what we said earlier, I never wanted them to feel the pressure of having to be a Super Bowl champion to be successful. So even to this day, I don't have my rings. I did bring one here because I got one for calling games on the radio as a member of the media.

John Elway gave me my fourth Super Bowl ring for calling the game. He didn't have to do that. That's very nice of him. I was very appreciative.

I'll wear that one because if I lose it, I can replace it.

But you tell people you have four rings, right? Oh, yeah. Yes, good.

I got one for each kid. They each get a ring.

All right, Ed, we appreciate the time. One more time on the way out here, tell us again about self and Macafry brands and these great products we just tried.

Yeah, super healthy snack. I think you'll love them. Birthday cage chocolate chip cookie dough, fudge brownie. You guys gave me your endorsements, so that's enough for me.

Yeah, and you're buying some books. How about that?

Put down the junk food, pick up a healthy snack, macafrybrands. Com. I hope you like them.

Okay, Ed, one more time. I love you. I love you. Right back at you. Thank you. He doesn't really like it. No, he said it. I heard the words. I love you, too. I heard the words, I love you, too. Thank you, man.

I'm buying your book. Wow.

Two copies.

Congrats on publishing. A great salesperson. Yes. I'll buy multiple copies.

You know what? One for each kid.

This holiday season, there's How do you know my white elephant gift.

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K. M. Jordan, one of the really good guys in the NFL. One of the really good guys in general is He got us right now. I love you, man. What are you doing with Old Spice and what's in your head right now?

When I think about Old Spice, when I think about football in general, about the trench warfare that goes on between office alignment, defensive alignment, coming in after practice, hot, sticky, upset. You're showering, and even after showers, you got that I'm still sweating feeling. That's why you need something like a game changer. Old Spice is reinventing the game again. When you think about the deodorant game, you think about how you just apply. No, this is a sweat-absorbing, total body dry-filled deodorant here. Where you're talking about you can use it anywhere, 24/7 total body freshness. I mean, pits, sure. Chest, yeah. Lower back, most likely for a big guy.

You have some in your pocket.

I'm not going to say that I just keep one on me, but I keep one on me. Mandarin sandalwood. It is what it is. It gives you a nice little freshness. I've been walking, somebody was like, Oh, you smell nice. I was like, Don't worry, sweetheart. It's just mandarin sandalwood.

Is it weird if I smell it? No, just check it out.

Check it out. That's what I'm saying. It's going to give you like, oh. It's almost mojito-esque.

Really? I'm just saying.

Take a bite of this, two guys. Take a bite?

Okay, here we go. Take a bite. That's what I'm saying.

It's nice. When you think about total body freshness, you think about what you want to do coming off of a great game. You want to smell nice as well, and that's going to give it to you.

Delightful.

You can apply anywhere. See as you see fit.

What's this massive box?

Come on, man. It's not a massive box. This is my guy I'm walking around with.

This is the You were massive.

Old Spice guy. That's a massive box to us, Bill. To him, it's just a box.

It's just a guy. It's the wise Old Spice guy. Can Old Spice, Total Body Deodorant, may or may not make my dad jokes hit a little bit better? And there we have them. Why ask this guy?

Hello, how are you?

Who do we have winning this game? You're right.

Old Spice guy, you want to come sit down with us? Yeah, come on. Come on. Oh, hell, yeah.

Here we go.

Make my dreams come show.

Yeah, for sure. I've always wanted to be like, I'm on a horse.

Gosh, darn. You wanted to do that? Yeah, I've always wanted to say this. I'm on a horse.

Have you met him before?

Absolutely not. Who has met a myth? You don't meet myths.

I got to tell you, this is very exciting. I've done 20 Super Bowl's. I've never been more nervous or excited for a guest to sit down next to me than I am right now. This is amazing.

You didn't ride a horse in.

Radio Rose Super Bowl week.

You didn't ride a horse in, and I'm like, I'm like... That's why they say never meet your heroes.

Yeah. Well, I'm meeting him today. Hi, Old Spice guy. How are you?

Well, hello. Oh, boy. Of course, he talks like that.

Of course. The voice I've always wanted. Good to see you, gentlemen.

Good to see you.

What do we have here? You tell us. It's mini you in a box. When we say Old Spice guy, now I want to throw this one away because we have the Old Spice guy.

The question, is he fresh?

That's a foul proposition, which we both know the answer is clearly yes. When you think about the bourbon cherry scents that also have the new scented flavors. Come on, you're going to have to think that we're always going to stay fresh. You have to stay fresh, you never have to get fresh. Right.

Cam Jordan is the best pitchman I've ever heard in my entire life. He's gunning for my job. No, He is. No, he said he wanted your job.

Now I'm on a horse. I've always wanted to be the Old Spice guy.

What is the coolest thing about being the Old Spice guy?

Nobody knows your first name because you're being. That's true. He's It's the Old Spice. Old Spice. First name, last name, guy. Probably horseback riding and staying fresh.

Oh, my God. The voice. The voice.

Yes.

Swan dive into total body freshness.

Into total body freshness, yes. Cam, you've nailed it once again. Wait, so we can ask questions about the Super Bowl? Absolutely. We'll get an answer from the Old Spice guys in a box? Indeed. Okay. That's him. Will Patrick Mahomes win Super Bowl MVP?

Here, let me bring him up to the...

It smells like a yes to me.

Oh, wow.

That was easy. You heard it from the guy on the horse's mouth. Why is the old sage of an Old Spice guy?

How'd you... The process of becoming the Old Spice guy, how did that happen for you? How many people wanted it besides Cam?

I also wanted to be Green Lantern, and they just gave that away to a British guy.

John Stuart is an American military man, and we gave it away to a British guy. You Undoutedly, he has green eyes, so kudos to him. There was a lot of people who were in that audition room, but yeah, it was quite a few bare-chested men running around that day.

You were the best of them, though.

Yeah, Absolutely. I just feel like, yeah, when you think about New Orleans, you think about good times, and you think about hand grenades and the Hurricane drinks, right? And of course, King Cake. When I think about Total Body Spice, do I think about Swag or MVP? Do I think about Cherry Bourbon or Manners Hollywood? I think about the Old Spice guy. The.

He's coming for you, man. I don't know what to tell you. No, no.

Then I'd be A Old Spice guy. Nobody wants to be A when you can be D.

Do you have a question for yourself? No.

Yes, I do.

Me. Hello, me. Is Cam coming for my job?

The answer's no.

Hey, brother, you're on my side, my he side.

Well, It's crazy. There was no- There was no. It's like he saw the inner depths of my soul. I didn't apply enough deodorant to cover me. That's on me. He felt your vibe.

Cam, what are the two or three things we have to do if we're staying in New Orleans this week? Come on.

The first thing you have to do, other than marvel at my city, is go find yourself a great king cake. Mardi Gras season is upon us. Of course, it's finding a great place you can get Crawfish at. That's fine. For me, I'm a desserts guy. So king cake is right up there. Uy-gooie cake, elite. Go get you a prolling. Really? If you like confection sweet, I'm not going to say you're at the age where you You probably enjoy candy corn.

I love candy corn. I knew it. Underrated.

It's overrated. I like the Uy-gooie cake myself.

Of course you do. You're just like saying Ui Gui. Who doesn't like finger-looking good sweets?

Absolutely. Calm down a little bit. If you're a candy corn guy, you're going to love a problem. Those are my top three sweets you got to go get you some.

What is the age of a candy corn guy? You said he looks like he's the age of a candy corn guy.

Again, it's that age. You know how the emotion, the EQ of kids is so much higher of a threshold than it is when we were growing up, when I was growing up, when you guys were growing up. It's just like the sweets. There's an age limit. Some guys will never know. Kids born after 2000 are never going to know about Charbon Chews, Boston baked beans, and the likes of Candy Corn. You love those old-school candy shops, don't you? I grew up watching my parents eat those types of things, and I was like, Baked beans? Nobody wants Boston baked beans as a candy.

Candy Corn is some of the worst candy you can get.

In The worst candy you can get.

The worst candy in the world. Just go get you a sugar packing, my guy.

Eat chalk. Anything but candy corn, honestly. Eat chalk.

Oh, the things they'll never know.

Can you stay here the entire day? I just chime in just like that.

For Adlib, just like that.

That's so good. What's the favorite word for you to say with that incredible voice? I know there's a favorite word in there. Here we go. I'm on a horse. Or hello. Hello, ladies. Hello, gentlemen.

I can't even Hello, lady. No, my voice doesn't even get in. Gosh, darn it. When I grew up and I looked myself in the mirror, I was like, I'm going to have the most incredible voice ever. I'm 6'4, 275 pounds as a 17-year-old as a senior in high school. I was like, Hell, yeah, the voice is coming. Then just think about when it dropped. Boys dropped, so this is where it dropped to. We were up here for a while. It sounded like Mickey Mouse. I was like, This is not you coming of the man.

Kam, are you complaining because you got a lot of gifts when you were born?

Again, God gives all the soldiers every gift, and I got a lot of them. But not the one you wanted. Yeah, we didn't catch a Kaleas Campbell. We didn't catch the old Spice man.

You wanted Kaleas's voice?

I can't even get that low.

I was like, Hey, how are you doing?

He's like, Yes, Jesus.

He's a friendly Monster. Gosh, darn it.

Tiny me has a bigger chest than real me. I don't know about that one. I don't know about that one. The pecs are percolating.

Wait, would you rather be the Old Spice guy or be you? It seems like you'd rather be him.

I mean, that's a conflict of interest. Wait, how many kids do you have? Two. I might take him. You got four? I've got four. His house seems a little bit cleaner. When you think about it- Yes, we all know about the terrible twos. Two is easy. It's three when they get a conscientious no. Two, they're just like, No, no, no. Three is like, No, because I said so. Why? If this was 1990s when I was growing up, I would have been caught back on you. 2000, what do we say? Hey, you don't say that. Go to the corner, come back, breathe. We do breathing exercises in the 2020s.

Give them candy corn.

Yeah.

We punish them with candy corn. You should.

That's what you have to do.

Oh, you like candy, huh? I punish them with bodywash. Dad has brought something for you.

That's no punish.

When Kim's going to He's got to lay out for that line. He's got to lay out for that. Say that again.

I punish them with bodywash.

Bam. Staying clean.

Don't leave me the entire day. I'll say I reward them. I'm like, And who wants to smell like I'm tender in Sandalwood. Any takers? Knowing Good and Well, my nine-year-old is like, Yeah, I love smelling clean. He gets dirty, and at the same time, he's like, Dad, what are we wearing? I'm like, Wow, what are we wearing? Choose one, Bo. Is it MVP? Is it swagger? Or is it now Cherry turban. Is it a towel or is it a shirt draped around your shoulders?

I don't know.

What is that around your shoulder?

This is my shirt that I never wear.

Why do you own one?

To put it around my neck. How dare you? Yeah, Just in case you need it or just you'll never need it.

All heroes need a cape. For moments like now.

Does anyone have any more questions for the man in the box? Anyone? Come on. Will nick Siriani be fired after this game?

That would be ridiculous. Win or lose.

He said, But of course, my fresh friend.

He said, But of course, my fresh friend.

He's on the outs. It's tough.

I now know what it feels like to have a head coach get fired. Win, lose, or draw.

Kam, last time we spoke to you, He told us how you would eliminate Gronk should you need to. How would you eliminate the Old Spice guy if you needed to make his gig?

Wow. Through nothing but time, because as the sage of an Old Spice guy that I'm carrying, you have to respect the OGs of the game. If he ever decided to, unfortunately, just live out his age, I'd be like, And now my son can take over. We'll both be long gone. Lies.

I think he's calling you O.

The Old Spice guy doesn't age.

Yeah.

Damn it. I think about that one. I thought we were going to play full contact pickleball. I am. Now you're speaking my realm. I drop it in the kitchen.

Oh, my God. I would ask you about football, but who cares?

Yes, there's two teams playing on Sunday Yes, it's going to be a high scoring game.

The Old Spice guy told me so. No, you don't have to be nervous about it because, again, if you have a question, you can always apply the total body deodorant that is Old Spice, as well as ask my guy if you have a real question. Let's just be real.

Sweat happens, but so does total body freshness. What happened? Why you jumped? It was the eye look for me.

It was like it was coming in.

I was waiting for my-He intimidated you?

No, I was waiting for him to finish myself.

You always have an excuse. You're always right, by the way. This is true.

I was like, right is always right.

Yes, right. Cam, and always fresh. Listen to me. I love you. I appreciate you. No, I love I love you. I love you, man. I was feeling lift. We're not spreading enough love in the world right now, and I want to spend my week telling people that I love them. I love both of you guys. I appreciate.

I love you.

Thank you. Thank you very much.

We're going to We're going to be very intrepid about the usage of love.

I think he's overusing it, if I'm going to be honest.

I deeply enjoy your company.

I love you. I don't care what you feel. I don't care how you feel about me, sir. Let me just say this to you down there. Yes.

I love you.

Hey, I love you, old Spice guy.

You say it to me. It's catching hold.

I love you, too.

This is great.

I have a deep affection for everyone. But we retain my love for the ones that I truly love. Damn it.

The love is growing.

The fact that I'm carrying you with me shows you how much I care for you.

The love is abound. Love is abound. Gentlemen, thank you so much. Appreciate you having me. Enjoy the rest of your week.