Transcript of "Nick Kroll" New

Well, good day.

Good day.

Guess my age.

59. 59?

62.

What the hell? No, but be real.

No, really, I actually— what are you? I'm 57. I think you're 50. You've always been a year younger, right? Are you still, or did you pass me?

No, no, no.

It looks like you— I think you passed me. Yeah.

Oh God, this backfired so much. Welcome to Smartless. Smartless. Smart.

Hi guys.

Hi.

Oh, hi.

Where are we going? I'm just finishing up a text here and sending.

Okay, wonderful.

Oh, good, good, good.

Yeah, now I'm back with you.

I'm glad you could.

Okay, today, and JB, we're having a little bit of an earlier start today, so I'm imagining you're morning, because I know you bake in 2 hours. Baseball season is on, so you're active on the trade front, you're managing your various leagues.

Well, I've, I've, uh, I've fast-forwarded through the final 6 innings of, uh, last night's game, right?

Right.

Sorry, you tape the games every night?

Every one of them. I watch everything.

And he watches them at like 5 AM.

Why don't you watch them live?

Well, I, I, I, I don't— I just don't get them done before I go to sleep, um, and so I finish them up the next morning. Yes, it helps me get out of bed. I've got the rest of the game to watch. That's a reason to wake up in the morning.

Okay, so Let me ask you a question. Do you fast forward in between each play?

Yeah, I wait until at least one runner's on base. Preferably I like to get somebody to get to second base before I go to—

I watch Wheel of Fortune the same way. Not even kidding. I'll fast forward through the picking of the letters until they get the, the puzzle kind of halfway down, until it's something that you can figure out. Yeah, exactly. Uh-huh.

Sean, and does anybody ever get like, get one, guess one so early that you just— it surprises you so much that you, that you like, you have a mistake with the, with the canned cheese?

Like, does it go all over your hand at that point, like, oh, or do you ever like point it to your temple, like, as if you're trying to kill yourself, you know, and you just squeeze it all over the side of your face, like, like, what is it called, Cheez Whiz? Yeah, that's it.

So, so, JB, so, so I know JB does a bake-in, so he bakes in the time. So bake-in is Dodger game speed through, right?

And then as soon as it's over, and not before, I then go to my scores, my, my points, how many points I've accrued on my fantasy baseball.

Coffee, coffee is accompanying all of this.

Coffee's very first, very first. I need to light the fuse.

Sure.

And it's a long fuse, so it needs time to burn down into the dynamite.

For the bomb, you need to light the fuse with coffee. I know, that's why I don't drink coffee, is because I don't want to be dependent on it.

Well, it's not that bad to depend on, you know, like you got, uh, a half-hour tick-tock until the dynamite gets hit, and then off you go, you know, because if you don't have a fuse mechanism, you could You find yourself leaving for your day, and then you're out in the middle of the community. And, um, yeah, in the community.

And you know what the community is?

You smell something burning, and you, you know, you got to get to a bunker for sure. And so, so, and that's unfortunate. All right, so we're back to baseball. I, I check my scores, check your scores, and then, um, and then I start doing my loop around the internet. And, um, it's pretty, it's a pretty highbrow loop. You know, Will, I'm not dicking around with gossip sites. Yeah, yeah, I'm seeing what's going on. And, uh, and, and actually, it's funny you say that.

So this morning I had that same thing where I woke up and I did, I did my little, my games with my little crew, coffee obviously accompanying it. And then—

oh right, so yeah, yeah, so you're, you're, you're baking still in that old— yeah, so he's still doing Wordle, Qwirtle, and Octortle.

Yeah.

Uh-huh. So that takes you, um— and the gum is as good as it sounds? Sorry, just checking real quick.

Um, so you're—

what, what, um— how long does it take you usually to do those 3 things? 20 minutes?

It depends, because the way we play it is the winner from the day before picks the starter word that you have to use for all 3 boards the next day.

Oh, they mixed it up. So wait, what happens? Yesterday's winner picks the starter word?

The starter word that you have to use on all 3 boards the next day.

Oh, really?

Yeah. So today's word was sadly. Uh-huh.

Yeah. They always get you with an L-Y.

And like, and, you know, certain people, like, will pick dicky words to fuck you over and it fucks themselves over too.

Sure.

And a dicky word would be something that doesn't really provide a lot of vowels or a lot of consonants.

On Easter, our pal put in bunny.

Sure.

Okay. From the night before. And it was like— it's festive, but B-U-N-N-Y is a desert when it comes to that. So it really messed us up. So today— so I do that, get that wrapped up, and then, uh—

How'd you do today? You feel good about your score?

No, I did— I made a really—

Here we go, Sean. This is why I don't plan anything.

Well, here was interesting. The word from yesterday was sadly, and this morning it was a word on our turtle. So we all had a 1.

Oh, right.

Which is rare. Yeah. And so— And then I was like, oh, I'm killing it. And I made one error on the third word.

Good, Sean, get him. What was your error, you fucking moron?

I don't even want to go into it. I actually— this is what a loser I am— I audibly went, no, because the letter was already not supposed to be there. And I did it. I had like a brain—

incredible.

Fucking— anyway. But what I was going to get to is then I turned on the news. I looked at some of the news online, did a little search around, same sort of thing. And it was such a bummer. And I thought to myself, and it's not the first time I thought, why am I starting myself out in a rut? Now I got to rally to die at this point. I'm so low. Right. Because the news is, as we know, so much of it is so depressing and so And I thought, by the time I stopped looking at New York Times, Bloomberg, Washington Post, all these, I thought, what's the point?

Right.

I guess I'll—

So then what's the alternative is maybe tweaking your algorithm such that—

Or just not looking like that.

Yeah, but what if you go to Instagram and you've managed to get the algorithm pointed towards unicorns and rainbows and stuff and you get uplifting messages and all that stuff?

Sure. I think that that's positive for sure. But I think that actually what I came to today was— I talked to Shawnee earlier after I got off the thing, and I talked to him. We talked about stuff, and it kind of— that was good as a palate cleanser. And then I was like, you know what? I think from now on, I should play my game, put my 3 games, put the phone down, and do some— go outside. Like, 2 days ago, because I still had jet lag, I started my little walk that you've done with me before. I started at 6:15.

This is with the ankle weights, wrist weights, leg warmers, and the weighted vest.

Weighted vest.

High elbows, right? As you're going.

Weighted vest. Fuck. Weighted vest with a visor and spiky hair.

And you do one of the sort of a face shield, one of those droopy masks to keep the sun off your skin.

No, I've got pharmacy, like Florida sunglasses you can put over your glasses full around.

Okay?

I got Walkman headphones.

Any sort of reflective material on your back so you don't get run over?

No, no. Full sleeves.

Full sleeves, you know, lots of waves.

Speaking of walking less—

yeah, but to wrap it up, I think that that's the way, because I feel like I was starting—

would you try meditation? Have you ever tried meditation?

I have. I'd like to do—

I'd like to shut the fuck up. Do you ever try that?

How about that, huh? Let's get to the guest. Thank you, Sean. What do you got for us today?

Wait, really quick, I'm gonna— I ran—

speaking of walking— did I go on too much?

No, no, you did Um, last night I was walking and, uh, I ran into— you know what a bollard is? One of those cement stoppers at the end of a street or a sidewalk.

Yeah. And it was like— oh God, you walked into it?

Yes.

Oh, you're talking about something that's about nard height, right?

Yes, exactly. It's just a little higher than a fire hydrant and it was painted black.

Okay.

Why do they have them on the corner of a sidewalk?

So that people will drive up.

Sounds like you're Upper East Side. It sounds very— I know those black—

no, no, it's after I ate at the Waverly Inn restaurant.

Oh, we're going south there. So did you catch it right in the nards?

No, right above the knee. And I couldn't—

oh, man. That got to hurt. Did you call Graydon Carter for a reservation?

Yeah.

You did?

Yeah. No, no, no, no.

Oh, you did?

No, no.

Did Scotty throw you over his shoulder and walk you home?

Basically. It was right in front of a taxi, and we were saying goodbye, and I was like— I ran right into the thing with my full leg.

Okay.

And I was just like, did we run? Great time. No, I just walked right into it. Yeah, no. All right, let's get to it. Ready?

What's your step count today? I'm guessing 400.

Sorry.

My guest today accidentally taught his 2-year-old son to say, "I'm a coward," which made me laugh when I read that. He went to Georgetown and majored in history. His father's job included tracking the hidden fortunes of dictators. After bombing at his first college comedy competition, the guy that won invited him to audition for a sketch show, and that changed the course of his life. He's voiced about 80 animated characters. For real. And the kid he met on the first day of first grade became his best friend and creative partner, helping turn their own humiliating stories about puberty into one of Netflix's longest-running scripted originals. It's the insanely funny and super talented Nick Kroll.

Oh, Nick!

Nicholas Kroll!

Get out here!

Hey, boys. Oh, he's gonna take it down. I have not spoken yet today, and I'm listening to my voice, and I— that was like the first thing I've said all day.

Wouldn't it be amazing if we all Wouldn't it be amazing if we all had a word limit each day? Like, if every person—

for you it would be.

Yeah. Yeah.

Hey, but could you imagine if you had to budget out your words for the day? That would be pretty interesting.

That would imagine, huh, man?

Welcome.

Well, you come up with some fun ideas, Nick.

You are East Coast because you've already got a smart looking jacket on.

I'm, I'm on the West Coast. I was debating on taking the jacket off before, but I'm dealing with what you guys are seeing is this center stage video where I'm gonna be constantly—

oh yeah, the camera's gonna be Oh, you can turn it off if you want.

I know I can. I can't figure out how.

Wait, why do you look so damn good already this morning?

You got a chore jacket on?

Did you have a callback earlier?

I got, uh, yeah, it's a Lipton cup of soup. It's, uh, the 3 PM slump.

And did you crush it?

I felt good. I felt really good in the room.

Any feedback yet?

Yeah, supposedly they wanted a better looking and older though.

Oh, you are in the running in case they can't find it.

Oh yeah. So you guys are honestly the candidates.

We're the demo. We're that.

Telsey's calling, guys.

Nick Kroll.

Yeah.

What's up, man? It's been a long time. How are you?

I'm great. It's really good to see you guys.

Like, quite a minute to see you, Nick.

The first time I met you was, I think, was at Ted Sarandos a couple of years ago at the Grammy dinner thing.

Yes.

Right.

What were you two doing at a Grammy?

At the Grammys?

Yeah, it was like, it was like for the, for the comedy category, and we were doing a duet.

It was a Bette Midler and Barry Manilow thing, and they had us play for a few.

Who played Bette?

Right, right. No, but I, I, you were so kind, and I felt, I immediately felt this like rhythm with you, and I was like, I would love to get to know you more.

Yeah, here we go. Fuck it, this is unbelievable. Every time I felt a connection with you. Let me get— put your number in the chat. Fucking, are you joking?

Come on the pod. You should come on the pod sometime.

Let's go for lunch and wrap up how we think we did. I'm close by.

What's your story later? Because you should come on the pod. The boys let me make the choices on this all the time.

You make the choices. God, you're so smart and funny and handsome.

And let's go on a run. You want to go for a run? Let's go on a run.

Wait, let's go on a run. Um, wait, wait, wait, so that was the first time that you guys had met?

I actually met you many, many, many years earlier. There was a guy used to do, uh, like treasure hunts around LA.

Like, we have to— JP Manu?

Yes.

Are you talking about the LARP?

Um, I don't know if that's what it was.

No, it was before Amazing Race.

I remember that.

And it was, it was just like The Amazing Race, and this guy organized just a bunch of people to go do this around Los Angeles. It was really fun.

Yeah. So I— you were there and you like— I was just sort of starting and you were one of the most famous people in the world in that group of 5. So I saw you and I said, one day they're going to make podcasts and I'm going to hit on him at Ted Sarandos's party.

Wait, wait a second. You're skipping over that you predicted podcasts. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Why? That's just—

No, but we had to get to Madame Tussauds to find—

That's right, that's true, that's true.

Why have those gone?

Oh wait, so JB, do you remember in the '90s they, they, these guys had a game going?

Yeah, it was called LARP and they were both out of Stanford.

There was one, no, there was another one where we went around and everybody had a, you had a squirt gun and it was like a game of tag around LA.

My daughter does that as senior, senior, senior assassin.

All these actors when we were in our 20s in the '90s in LA, I remember being out here for a pilot season, mid-'90s, and somebody's saying, "Do you want to get in this thing?" And people would be, like, at an audition at Warner Brothers, and some dude would come out of nowhere and spray them, and, like, they're like, "Ah!" And I was like, "Can you imagine walking onto a lot now with a water gun?" So, at Franny's school, so it's Senior Assassin, if you get hit with a water gun, you're out.

And the only way that you can sort of protect yourself, inoculate yourself from getting some sort of a surprise hit, is wearing swim goggles out in public all day, every day, or swim floaties. So you see like these students are all around town, you know, like markets and shopping centers.

That's really funny.

It's pretty, it's pretty cool. But these scavenger hunts things, these high-end scavenger hunts, I'm pissed that they've gone away. We should resurrect that.

Let's do it.

Yeah, celebrity scavenger hunt.

Let's do it, guys. You guys have a lot of free time. Do you want to start getting into— let's do organizing local city scavenger hunts. I'm going to organize Nick Kroll All right, let's get into it.

You, you, first of all, thanks for being here. And, and I did, I did mean that. It just felt like a comedy connection with you. You were very funny right off the bat, and I felt like I've known you.

But anyway, he's a nice guy and he's funny.

Very nice.

What's not to get a rhythm with?

Um, so wait, is that true? 80 voices?

80?

8-0?

I think so. That's what I think.

So, and, and is it like if I threw out names, could you— you don't want to do that?

I probably could. I mean, I'm a monkey. I'll give you what you need. Let's—

yeah, yeah, sure.

Yeah, wait, those numbers.

Okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna I'm gonna do a look here.

We had Gunther from Sing and Sing 2.

Ah yeah, this is Gunther from Sing.

It's me, Gunther. Hehe, power! Okay, what about—

Nothing makes me laugh quicker than a German accent.

It's—

okay, what about Douch from Sausage Party?

Douch was, uh, oh, come at me, bro. It was that sort of, uh, that guy.

No, but wait, do Douch from Sausage Party.

Okay, so wait.

So, Douche from Sausage Party, we did— that's the Rogen movie, and they had— I did the whole thing as like a sort of a British villain, like a, you know, the classic Disney British, like, Jafar kind of voice, and then— or like Scar from Lion King. And it just wasn't working, and we did one last record where they rewrote it as that character who's kind of a— this character did Bobby Bottleservice, who's kind of— yeah.

I remember Bobby Bottleservice. Wait, Nick, you did your— you did— Nick, you did, um— your series on Netflix, uh, Big Mouth. Yeah. And so we got to clear— we got to clear the air on this. Do you know what I'm getting? You know what I'm getting at?

Of course.

So we've never talked about it. So for years, people have commented to me, hit me in the thing, talk to me in real life. I've been in line at the store. Do you do the voice of— there's a character on your show that people thought was me. His name is Maury the Hormone Monster.

Is that what it is? Everybody thinks, yeah, it's Arnett. Yeah, it's It's—

I can't tell you how many people have—

And that's you, Nick?

It's me.

Nick doing Arnett.

No, it's— I mean, this is— okay, so here's the backstory here. Let's clear the air on this.

Let's clear it. Finally.

Finally.

Um, so, uh, I— we, we did the show Big Mouth. It's about kids going through puberty. And my friend Andrew Goldberg, who Sean mentioned, I met in first grade. We created the show together. He had been at Family Guy for years. We've Friends forever. And he and Mark and Jen, our other partners, came to me with an idea about an animated show about kids, about me and Andrew at 13 going through puberty. And immediately was like, "Great, this makes— I really see this show." So we started working on it, and Andrew started talking, and he's like, "You know, and like, I think my guy," who he was a really early, early developer. You know, he just hit puberty at like 5 and had a full beard by 8, you know? And he was sort of like, "I think my character was like," something encourages him to jerk off. Like, he's got like a hormone monster. And I immediately was— literally immediately was like, "Touch yourself, Andrew." And it was like, that was the voice. Because I had been doing this guy. I'd been doing this guy, Nash Rickey. I had a sketch show called Kroll Show, and Nash Rickey was sort of like a hair metal guy who was also like, had OCD and—

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, was Pete Giles part of that?

Yes, Pete Giles was part of that. Yeah, yeah, we had a, we had a song called LA Deli, and it was just about all the delis in LA, like, like California Girls, uh, because all those guys like hung out at, you know, fucking Canter's and all this.

Yeah.

Anyway, so I did this voice, Nash Ricky. So I— then we go to do Big Mouth, we develop it, we make it, it comes out. I've known Will forever. Will is on the air with BoJack at this, like, so yeah. The same time, BoJack is like the premier fucking animated show. It never crossed my mind that anyone would be like, "Is that Arnett?" And then we start the show and it works, and everybody's like, "Can't believe you got Arnett." "You sound like Arnett." Nick, I honestly, I can't tell you how many people over the years I'm like, "No, it's not.

I think it's—" I didn't know if it was you, but I was like, "I think it's Kroll." That's just—

Is that show still going? No, we did 8 seasons. Wow, that's remarkable. And we'll have done— we did more of those than basically any other scripted Netflix show, I think, besides Ozark. How many have you guys done now?

140? It felt like 140. No, it was 4 and a half, maybe, seasons.

Seasons. Yeah. Anyway, so we did it, and we're about to put out a new show. called Mating Season. It's the same team. That looks so great.

What's a premiere on that, Sean?

What's a premiere date? Oh God, you—

wait, I have to look it up. I jumped it. I jumped it. I got it.

Scroll tight on the bottom.

Later. Scrolling, scrolling.

When is it? Nice. I'm so sorry.

Check the chat. Maybe Michael Grant sent it to you.

Oh my God, I can tell you it's—

I don't even double back at the end, Sean.

Okay, we'll be right back.

And now back to the show.

Kroll, so I know you. So I feel like the first time I saw you was at UCB over 20 years ago. I think the first time we met, you were maybe doing monologs at ASCAT one night.

Yes, I think that would make sense.

Like early 2000s. Yeah. And you were so funny. It was one of those, like, the first time I saw you, I was like, oh, this dude is fucking hilarious. Thank you. Like, right out of the gate. And then you just went on to do What I love is that you went on, and you and Mulaney did so much cool stuff. You did a show on Broadway. You did sketches. You did sketch shows. You've just done— What I love is how many different kinds of things you have done. You do stand-up. You do all of it. And is there— Do you, now at this point, do you go like, "Oh, it feels too spread out. I want to concentrate on this"? Because I know you just did a stand-up special. Yeah, I just watched it.

It's so good.

Is that kind of where you want to go, or do you feel like you still want to just do millions of different things? I mean, I like—

what I'm shooting for is like a B- across the board. You can shoot for a B-, you can do so much.

You can really never disappoint yourself.

You can really— you don't shoot too high, you stay general and broad, and then nobody can attack you for fully committing to anything.

That's such a great call. Oh, I know that. Yeah, yeah, it's all about longevity.

It's all about just staying right in the middle for as long as possible, and then they can't—

don't get too tired. Wait, the three of us, JB, you, me, and Kroll did that animated show with Mitch Hurwitz.

Um, oh, uh, sit down, shut up, sit down, shut up, sit down, shut up.

That was very— yeah, that was, uh, it was literally right after Arrested, and that it was us and Forte.

Forte. Damn, I want to watch that again.

I remember the animation being hilarious.

Yeah, I'm playing a character I would not currently play. Yeah, copy that. Copy that. Oh, let's— please explain. Uh, his name was Andrew Legustambos, and it was a, uh, legustambos. He liked— he was a bisexual Latin teacher.

Yeah. Do you think—

I love that you remember his name.

No, but literally, if you started that today Do you think that today's culture would attack as much as it did, let's say, even 6 months to a year ago? No, I think everything is—

I feel like things are kind of settling. I mean, I don't think I would play that character right now, but I, but I, but I do think things are settling a bit. Like all of that stuff that I think we're finding different levels now to it, you know? Right. Right. Yeah, I think so too.

And I wonder why. I mean, the issues haven't gone away, but maybe the tolerance and the exploration of finding humor in things that are more challenging is more around? I don't know. I think there's a general—

I mean, I think there's polarizing views of it, but I think there's a general attempt to be more thoughtful about what we're doing or how we're doing it. And if you're generally more thoughtful, then I think there's more— a little more room for different versions of people playing different versions of people, I think, in that way.

You know, I think also there's— there's a— that's interesting. We have to pay more attention to intent, you know? And, and if the intent is to injure or to sideline or to, to, to minimize, hurtful, yeah, then there's no room for it. And let's save that for our personal friendships, right?

Yeah, of course.

And family. And family.

Exactly. Uh, wait, so Nick, when you first started out, I mentioned in the intro you, you, you bombed freshman year in comedy competition. Yeah. And the guy who won and then gave you the opportunity was Mike Birbiglia, right?

Yes. No way. Oh, no way. Yeah, that's crazy.

I mean, that's crazy.

Where was this? We did this— it was at Georgetown. We did this thing called the Funniest Act on Campus, and I'd never done comedy before in any real capacity. And there were, you know, it's like flyers up. Yeah. And I went and did it. I was really nervous about it. And I just— I showed up, and my whole bit was that I was gonna get on stage and go, "You know, I thought I'd be so nervous, but I'm super relaxed." And then I was gonna piss my pants. Like, that was the bit.

That's a great bit. It's a good bit, right? It's a really good bit.

Except I did not prepare. I was like— You know, I was a freshman.

You drink enough water?

Yeah, I was like— had drank and, like, you know, I was just like— I was like so nervous that I showed up and I had not, I was gonna bring like a water balloon and a pen and like pop the water, you know what I mean? I thought, I didn't, so, but I forgot all of it. So I grabbed like an empty, a sandwich bag in the trash and grabbed a pen and just got on stage and just like jammed over and over the pen into this like water bag in my pocket. So it just looked like I was jerking off on stage basically, which is what I've been doing ever since. Mike won. Mike had like a solid 5 minutes as like a sophomore, and he won the competition and, uh, got to start hosting at the DC Improv. And then he was doing a sketch show later that year and invited me to audition, and I did that audition and then got cast. And we went to like a kid's apartment on campus and read, uh, all these sketches. And I like— it was truly the one time in my life I walked out of that thing, I was like I was like, this is it.

Yeah, this is all I— this is it. This is what I wanted.

Because what were you— what were you studying at Georgetown at the time?

I was studying history and, uh, minoring in art and Spanish, just kind of like coasting, coasting on privilege.

Yeah, waiting, waiting for something to hit you, um, to, to, to do. Or were you going to make a career out of history?

I was gonna— I, I don't know. I think I was just— I truly was coasting, you know. I, I just was I liked history because I think I like telling stories, um, but I think I was still scared to like write in, you know. So English wasn't— didn't feel entirely safe. And then we started doing— and so we auditioned for that sketch show, and we literally then went at the— we did our sketch. It was like we rehearsed for 3 months to do one night in Bulldog Alley on campus. And then— and the show was— I mean, we bombed, but I met all these guys who I continue to know and work with still, including Burbiglia. And then UCB was just about to come on the air, and they came down to GW and did a show at GW. It was like a big improv festival, and it was the first time I saw those guys. And I— my mind fully exploded.

Did they do Bucket of Truth?

Bucket of Truth. And what's Bucket of Truth? It was— it was Little Donnie. Remember Little Donnie's? It was like Besser had the sketch, this little kid with a huge gun. Yeah. And, uh, but I saw that, and then— and then moved to the city that that summer, or it started going to the city. We did a workshop at UCB, and, and, aren't— Will, you know Owen Burke. You guys all know Owen. Owen was my brother's roommate in college, and Owen started— had just started at UCB. So I started going to UCB, started going to ASCAT as a fan, you know, I was like, uh, and could not believe what I was seeing.

I agree. I had the same— first of all, I had the same sensation. I saw them do Bucket of Truth, uh, in 1996. They just moved from Chicago.

Can you tell me what Bucket of Truth is?

So it was sketch show that they did. And they did it downstairs at the West Bank on 42nd Street, the restaurant that had that little space down there. And I was like, what? And it was Walsh and Amy and Besser and Ian Roberts. And I was like, what the fuck? Like, watching what these guys did. So I loved it. And then they started doing it. They started doing Ask Ed at that other place, Solo Arts on 17th Street, before they moved into their theater. And I would go every Sunday. And JB, you remember my old roommate Duff. I had lived with Duff and I had been roommates years.

But you know Duff too, right? I know Duff, yeah, a little bit through Owen and—

Through Owen. And so I said to Owen and Duff, I go, you guys got to— I said, let's go to this thing and see these guys. And Owen came along to— Oh, wow. I brought him to his first UCB show and he ended up as artistic director of UCB. Isn't that wild?

Owen Burke. Funny, good man. And that was sort of— so I started coming, and we would go, and I was, you know— I went to Solo Arts once or twice and saw those shows, and then would go to the Theater at 22nd Street and, like, sit on the side, you know, wait and sit on the side and look up, and it was like all these people, you know, who were, you know, who were just popping on Conan and—

Oh, it was like Glaser and Tina and McKay would be there and all those guys.

Yeah, it just was like— and as soon as I— literally, as soon as I saw it, But the first— did that sketch, little sketch show, and then joined the improv group my sophomore year. I was like, "Done." I'll do— back to sort of what you're saying, I was like, "I'll do anything. Get me close to this.

I'll do anything." But to speak more about, you know, because I'm just— I'm always fascinated with people at that age where you need to, or you think you need to, commit to a career. And you have to really think about making rent and feeding yourself. And like, you're out from the nest at home. And so you're at this opportunity at an incredible university. You haven't really picked an occupation, an industry, a path. At what point did you feel like, oh, okay, there's enough momentum going in this lane where I need not continue to consider other means of support?

Well, for me, after Silver Spoon, I just wanted to have fun. You know what I mean? After the spoon, singular.

This is why I'm so curious about it, because it was like I'd had this momentum since I was a little kid, but I still, at 18, I thought, well, is it ever— is it gonna last? Maybe I should study something else that's a little bit more reliable.

Well, so going back, so the other thing, my connection to Jason a bit, is that you're originally from Rye, right? Or your family? So I'm from Rye, New York. Oh, no way. Yeah. So, you know, I grew up with— with plenty of privilege. So I went to— I never had, like, the privilege was that I could sort of be like, what do I want to do? And I went to college and I started, and I, you know, school was never exactly my thing. I was fine at it, right? But as soon as I started doing improv and comedy and sketch, I was like, I'll do anything. Like, I'll print, you know, like, I'll go anywhere at any hour to get this done. And when I moved to New York I had— I did have the real privilege of knowing that I could fall back. Like, if it didn't work, I could go get a job somewhere. Like, I was good. It was gonna be okay. Yeah. But it was the thing I feel so lucky about is that I had such a clear— I knew, I knew I wanted— I knew as soon as I started doing it, this is all I wanted to do.

And any work— now, the question of whether I was gonna make it is the intangible.

But I think the idea for me was like, "Well, I'm gonna regret the fuck out of this if I don't try." You recognized that it was something that really fed your soul, that you were decent at it, you liked the attaboys, and it was sort of self-perpetuating. Yeah.

And it's never waned.

At least for me. Which is interesting, 'cause JB, you do have that as well. At the same time, this was your thing since before you can remember doing anything else, really. Since you were a little kid, there was never like, Hey, I'm going to try my hand at this. You were in it. You were always in it, right? I mean, I don't mean to say that you— Yeah, I'm talking to you. I'm not saying that you didn't have a choice, but that was your— in a lot of ways, it was your job. It became your passion.

Yeah, I had realized that I was halfway decent at something before I needed to have something that I was halfway decent at.

And so that was a— Yeah, and I think for you, so on that—

And you were cute as a button, if I can just say.

Hey, Nick, stop it. God, we're good.

Let's get our rhythm going. I remember in the cab.

Oh, no. Oh, no. Not another rhythm connection. I run too. Enough. But, J.B., you had that second gear for you. The thing that you found was when directing, and seeing you light up at this stage of your life when you talk about directing is the same way I think that I certainly did, and Nick, the way you describe it, discovering this thing where you go, "I love this. I gotta do this. I'll print flyers. I'll do whatever it takes." True. You kind of have it for directing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? Like 10, 12 years ago, or 15 years ago. Right. And if—

like anyone, out there, you know, if you were lucky enough to get paid a little bit to do something that you would pay somebody else to do, right? 'Cause you love it so much. Um, that's the sort of fuel that can really travel you into success and longevity instead of just punching a clock, you know, if it's something that really is passionate.

Nick, just quickly, did you do— 'Cause you worked with a lot of— You've had a lot of great people. We mentioned Mitch Hurwitz and obviously Mulaney. You've had a lot of great partners and collaborators. Another funny dude that we know that we all connect with is Jon Levenstein, who worked on The Kroll Show.

Super, super funny. One of the funniest, most bizarre men in the world.

Sweetest men too. And honestly, I just have to say it since we just mentioned it, The Kroll Show is one of my favorite shows of all time. Thank you, Sean. Truly. I mean—

It's so funny. And Levenstein was a big part of that, right?

Yeah, he was the showrunner, and he had come— we hired him. I mean, I met him doing this cartoon called Life and Times of Tim that ended up on HBO. That was like— and Giles, that's how I met Giles.

Oh, sweet Pete Giles.

Yeah, that's how I met Giles originally. Sweet Pete Giles. Yeah, and one of the great voices. Talk about art. You think we got some gravel? That motherfucker. Pete Giles.

You can catch him, you can hear him everywhere. Oh, the words. Yeah. It's the World Series on Fox. Yeah, it's the Chows.

Uh, so it is. Yeah, I mean, I, uh, hey, by the way, Jason, I'm so sorry Zootopia didn't work out, but, uh, next time on the VO stuff. They can't all be winners on the video stuff.

I do, I do envy what you guys can do with VO. I, I still feel like I'm just leaving voicemail messages. I, I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing.

Jason, oh, Jason, I forgot to tell you, last week I was, uh, I was out here East, and, uh, I was with— out for dinner with my little guy Denny, who's 5, and there's this couple sitting next to us and they're talking about— and they've got like a 7-year-old girl, and they're talking about Zootopia. And my guy Denny goes, I saw Zootopia too. And they're like, we love Zootopia too. And he goes— and he comes up and he goes, Dad, can I tell him? And I go, tell him what? He goes, about Jason. And I go, sure. And he goes, my dad's friend Jason is the voice of Nick. My son is 5.

It was so sweet. How about I'm just excited that he knows my name?

I know, I know. Isn't it?

I love that little guy.

Isn't that sweet? I love that. Nick, can I ask about growing up? Because we touched on that a little bit, and I think it's fascinating. And when I read this, I laughed out loud that you grew up in Rye, New York, and your parents sent a limo to pick you up from school. Is that every day?

Yeah. No, no, no. Every once in a while. When you're good. So it wasn't—

That made me laugh out Wow, when I read that, I'm like, is that true? Yeah, it was like Different Strokes, right?

Like, you just— yeah, exactly, it's true.

But what happened to all those limos? You remember we used to see stretch limos everywhere? Where did they—

I kind of thought about bringing it back this year when we went to the big award show the other— oh my God, I thought, wouldn't it be funny to pull up to like the Academy Awards in a white stretch limo?

Oh my God, where they went, literally, like, I guess scrap metal yards, or do they—

they're Waymos now. They're all Waymos.

Send them to Eastern Europe.

Wait, so Nick, I mean, they're all playing in Europe. You talk about playing in Europe. That's a great joke. So you had to— there were occasions where you had to be driven to school.

It just is what it is. My dad, my dad, it's like the internet, the internet is real, loves, loves to speculate on, on my, my dad, his business. Fascinating business. Fascinating. Yeah, of course. Built incredible business. Do you guys—

Jay, do you know about his dad? No, please share. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't either. And when I read about it, Nick, I understood 10% of it. So can you—

arms dealer, drug dealer, what is it? Consultant. He deals drugs. He dealt drugs to arms dealers. Got it, got it. That's lucrative because it's two different— it's, you know, you got to find the guy who's going to come in between them. Um, was that what that Jonah Hill movie was about? Those guys, remember the movie?

Oh yeah, I like that movie with Nick Cage. Uh, War Dogs. Yeah.

Oh yes, War Dogs. Was there— were that— is that what they were doing?

I want to see that.

Um, but so anyway, he, he built this. He, he's He sort of did— the larger umbrella would be like risk mitigation. So like it started as like corporate investigations, due diligence. And during the '80s, it was like Wall Street takeover, private, all those like hostile takeovers, like doing, like Ivan Boesky and all those kinds of characters. And then it was dictators like Saddam, like the Kuwaiti government hired him to find Saddam Hussein's Money, uh, and Baby Doc Duvalier in Haiti and the Marcos.

Hello, Baby Doc Duvalier! Now you're really going into it.

Me and Melanie were trying to write a movie.

Baby Doc handles Kimmel, handles Fallon, handles Colbert, right?

James Dixon, Baby Doll. That's Baby Doll. That's Baby Doll Jameson. Wait a second, Nick, didn't— now that I think— didn't— did Duff write a book about your dad's company?

He may have, yes. He may have.

I think he did.

Yes. Yeah. And, um, so he— and, and then he, you know, he's, he's gone on to, to, uh, continue to sort of work in various versions of that business. And he and my brother have a company called K2 now, which continues to do, uh, different versions of investigations and, and risk mitigation and security. They make skis too. And they make great skis. I know, I know everybody out there likes Slalom.

Hey, but Nick, you know, I do want to say that I'm glad you, you talked about it because you didn't decide how you— how— what your dad did or how you were born or what. And, and your dad started a company and he was successful at what he did. Yeah. And, and so I like that you just— you, you talk about it openly because what the fuck are you gonna do? Yeah, right.

You don't need to apologize. The internet will find you. No, I know, but why—

you don't need to apologize for where you came from. What are you supposed to do?

Right, exactly.

Thank you. Yeah, I mean, that's— No, but it is. I just got— I mean, I feel like I got real lucky. I got dealt a real good hand. Of course you did.

But you— and as I've said, I've known you 20, 25 years. You work really hard. You create a lot of stuff. You create a lot of stuff on your own. You didn't have family in show business, and you did it all through hard work and talent. So, you know, fuck everybody.

But he sounds— that sounds really fascinating. Like— um, get them to investigate Bateman please! The kinds of—

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, just look into it, but Jason why do you keep going to Grand Cayman? Well answer that.

Listen these people or so you're doing the Firm cosplay yeah um but yeah the kind of connections and know-how he's got I just gotta be incredible that's like up there with— if I could pick a new career if I could go back in time if I was like 17 and I would like to get recruited by the CIA. I would—

oh yeah, you have, you have CIA vibes written all over your spine.

I would love to be somebody in my mid-50s, um, like, well, I'm in my late 50s now, that, uh, is still, uh, like, I would like to be able to hold that secret, uh, from— because you're not supposed to be able to tell your family, or you're—

yeah, right.

I mean, if you're really good— you want to hold more secrets from your family? Yeah, I've got an— I've got a little more room. I found a little more room on my Drive.

Wait, JB, we just went through your morning routine. You think that you're CIA ready?

Are you fucking kidding? No, that's what you do in the CIA. You watch the end of a Dodger game.

Yeah. Uh, no way this guy's a spy. Look how dumb he is.

They're like, how do we kill that Bateman agent?

He's at the golf club. We'll be right back.

And now back to the show.

Were you going to say, Nick, were you going to say you and Malaney were working on a script about it or no? Was that what you were saying?

We were working on a script. It was the first— we sold a movie called Most Glorious Friend, and it was, you know, those like Nigerian email prince email scams. Yeah, well, we were—

the fucking scams. Yeah.

Oh, Willie, this—

our— the premise of the movie was like, this was This time it was real. And it was gonna be Tracy Morgan as the deposed dictator of a country called Lyrobia. And his name is Lil Mo. And that was so like a bunch of couple college kids respond to the email and then like Tracy Morgan shows up being like, where's my money? And we pitched it out to Tracy. It was genuinely very— I mean, I was probably structurally— I mean, we had no idea what we were doing. We just sat there reading Save the Cat by the chapter and then trying to write off of that.

Save the Cat is a screenwriting book.

That's so fun. That's such a fun— taking— Schur and I worked on this thing years ago, Mike Schur, called The Ambassador, about basically he's too dumb to kill. He's the son of a senator, and they make him envoy to the EU to ruin all their trade deals. And then he's getting chased like Batman born, but he doesn't realize he's being— like, he's being chased. He keeps going, go around.

You both, all three of you guys could be spies. You guys should be like '50s, the worst spies, post-Cold War spies, right? Like being like Spies Like You, Spies Like Us. Yeah, Spies Like Us, but there's a— it's just, it's just how it's pronounced at the end.

Wait, so this This made me laugh too, because Big Mouth— Big Mouth is about, like you said, you and your friend, puberty, 13 years old. But I read your sister Vanessa is now a professional puberty educator.

Yeah. What does that even mean?

What does that mean?

So yeah, my sister Vanessa is a, um, yeah, she became an expert in puberty. She started a thing called Dynamo Girl a number of years ago, uh, and it's like after-school program for, uh, sports for girls. And then as she was teaching these young girls, like, they— as they as they got older and started going through puberty, she realized that there was just a ton of— there was just like an empty spot in that, in sort of the education around that and like having parents and kids understand what's going on. So, I mean, it's a crazy synergy, but I think it just speaks to a little bit of, I guess, our experience. You know, she's 2 years older than me, of going through that period of life together. It was of interest. Like, we had those books you like, What's Happening to Me? You know, those like groovy '70s books with like body drawings of the body. And so we were— Are You There, God?

It's Me, Margaret. Yeah, yeah.

Like all of that stuff, I think, loomed large for us. And so it became an interest for both of us. She's— and she's like, uh, so she's kind of writing about parenting and that kind of stuff. She's got 4 kids.

And then is she the one— who's the one married to the men at one of the Men in Blazers?

That's my sister Vanessa's married to Roger Bennett from Men in Blazers.

Oh, wow. Yeah, I know those. I love those.

Yes. And all your siblings— there's 4 of you. Are you all funny people? Like, are you all— I think so.

I don't know how it works in your family, but like, I think it's pretty rare that someone comes out of a family that isn't also— if they're funny, that isn't also funny. Right, right. My brother's really funny, and my sister's— well, yeah, I think it was in the family. There was a sense of humor.

Did you guys get it from mom or dad?

They're both pretty funny. My dad's funny, and my mom's got a very good sense of humor. Especially having to deal with me tell jokes about moms. Like, she— right, you know, she's like, people tell me, am I upset about the jokes about moms? And I'd say I'm not. Okay, they're both fair enough. Yeah, funny. Uh, but though it's a funny family, I think. But I think— but me kind of being like, no, I'm gonna go be a comedian. Yeah, everyone was like, huh? There was definitely— it wasn't like, well, of course you're going to, you know.

You know, Jim, you know Jimmy Valloli? Yes. Jimmy Valloli used to have—

Another Vet Levancy, another rested guy.

Yeah, another rested Jimmy, the great Jimmy Valloli, who's one of the all-time— Yeah, one of the all-time funniest and has jokes that nobody else can think of that are just so— God, I fucking love Jimmy Valloli. Anyway, he used to always say, he'd say, like, you know, if you come— he was— we were talking about something. He said, yeah, this guy sort of came from a good family. He goes, he had more to lose. And I go, what do you mean? And he goes, well, in a way, he could have gone into— he could have been a lawyer, he could have— he went to a good school and stuff, and he risked it all to do this. If you come from nothing, you got nothing to lose.

100%, right?

And I go— and I was like, oh, that's interesting. I never, I never looked at it that way.

It's so true. Yeah. Well, Nick, you, you're so multi-talented, and you've done so many different, um, jobs in, in, in the structure of things. Um, what— how do you decide what to do next? And like, what would the perfect What does the next 5 years look like? I mean, I don't know how strategic you are. I imagine— and I don't mean that as a pejorative, you know, like, it takes a certain amount of planning to get things done in this business.

Yeah, I mean, you got— look, he's got Roommates out April 17th. He's got Mating Season on May 22nd. Sean finally got it.

Sean finally found it.

Sean finally found it. 100% with Sam Richardson and— and Vanessa Mae— and that's another Netflix— I mean, you have tons of stuff coming out. It's so exciting.

Oh, by the way, Nick, you need to know Scotty was just off camera going, I just, I just bumped it up in your email. Okay, so just—

he just held out, he just held up dates.

Scotty was like, do you want me to stop warming the cupcake and get you your dates?

Hotmail.com/mail. Can we, um— we actually met it on Hotmail. Anyway, so that's just a little joke, just a small joke. It wasn't Sarandos's party, it was on Hotmail. Yeah, and there just felt like a comedy connection there. Yeah. So, um, I— my strategy is I keep— and I feel like, honestly, you guys all also do a lot and produce a lot. Like, I keep a number of balls in the air who are— that are all at different stages of development. And so, you know, I'm— and I— so I think I like to show, uh— Mating Season is the follow-up to Big Mouth, and it's about animals dating and fucking and falling in love in the woods. Zach Woods. So it feels like a natural sort of progression of that. I've been working with my partners Mark and Andrew and Jen on that. It's me, Zach Woods, June Diane Raphael, and Sabrina Jalisse. It's like, uh, you know, like a fun, fun hangout, kind of in the vein of like an animated version of Friends, or, um, I can't remember any of the other— any of those other, uh, NBC shows. Uh, nope, can't see TV.

But you know that sort of that genre.

That's right. No, I mean, none really. There was Seinfeld. Yes, Wings. Wings. You're thinking of Wings.

Wings was great. I love Wings. It's a big influence.

The single guy. You're thinking of a single guy. Of course, the single guy. That's what you're thinking of.

Uh, yeah, Caroline in the City.

Caroline.

But then there was that show with the gay guys. Two guys in a— Frasier. On a pizza place. Two guys. Oh, right. Frasier.

Who's the buddies?

That was ABC. Frasier. Yeah. Yeah. And that's about it. I guess that was that must-see TV stuff. Yeah. To wrap that up. Yeah.

But you're like in this ideal position of really kind of being your own boss and self-perpetuating. And you've got this great sort of troupe of collaborators and colleagues. For sure. Right? Is it as ideal as it sounds?

It really— honestly, I really feel it right now. It really is. I feel incredibly— uh, it's at a time when the business is tricky and things are going away and there's contraction. And the fact that I, I'm currently getting to make a bunch of different things, um, is— it feels amazing. Like, and we're— I'm writing right now, we're writing 100% here in LA. And, uh, and it's me, Manczukas, Jason Manczukas, Sam Richardson, Vanessa Bayer. And it's in the world of kind of like self-help influencer gurus. So we're writing that. We're going to shoot over the summer. And that's— and then I'm producing some other stuff, animated and live action. So it's great. What the strategy you were talking about, Jason, I have two kids. I got two. I have a 5-year-old and a 2-and-a-half-year-old. No way. Oh, that's amazing. So that's the stuff that starts to play into like, how do we— How do I do this and how do I be around, be also like home and around and involved so that, so the opportunities, like, it's like, how can I set myself up as well as I can for opportunities that I get to some, have some modicum of control over, like where.

And be in Los Angeles too. Yeah.

I mean, right. That's, and that's what's, you guys—

Right now they can travel with you, but soon that 5-year-old is gonna be stuck in school and you won't be able to pop around.

He doesn't wanna be, if it's any consolation, He doesn't want to be in school, so we might—

Does he want to be homeschooled or he's just like, ah, I don't know? He wants to kite surf.

He just wants to do, you know what I mean?

That's dope.

He likes to free solo. He saw that free solo doc and he just wants to go climb.

That's hilarious. That's very dangerous, Nick, for a child. I know. I know.

We got to let him.

But we got to let— it's lucrative. First, you can get that— Jason knows, you got to get to work.

Got to get these kids to work.

So, Nick, what you— so speaking about a kid, you grew up conservative Jewish in a conservative Jewish kosher household. So no dishes for you, separate dishes for meat and dairy stuff. But I read that you had one junk food day a year growing up. Oh yeah. And, and, and then what was the other thing I read about food that you did? Oh, that— oh, that you fall asleep listening to a hypnotherapy tape telling you not to eat snacks. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I went to a hypnotherapist Uh, did it work to quit smoking? We all— you guys all went to fucking Carrie Gaynor at some point, right? Did you ever go to Carrie Gaynor to quit smoking?

Nobody can cure me.

I just— I stand— nobody can cure me.

She's my enemy. I'm unstoppable. I mean, there's nothing that will come between me and my darts.

I would love to see that Western, a little spaghetti western of you versus a cigarette in a standoff. Both of you.

No, we're on the same team. We're not against each other.

So listen, listening Those tapes at night, was this back in the day when we were told that you could learn languages from just listening to the people speak to you?

Yeah, it was. This was— well, I went to Cary Gaynor and he was like, you know, he was— you go to his, like, uh, you'd go to his garage in Santa Monica and there's like a sun-faded picture of, uh, Katherine Heigl. Uh, she was here at some point, and we think, uh, we Nope. Um, and so I used him to quit smoking, and then I got this woman, uh, from the Deepak Chopra Institute, and it was like, uh, this woman, she called me and she— I talked to her about snacks, and then she like— my— because I just was, you know, like, we— it's got to go somewhere, right? It's got to fucking go somewhere. So if you can't smoke cigarettes, like, give me some goddamn, like, you know, Sour Patch Kids. Give me some fucking chips, right?

Something the same way.

She just— she's just recommending Making snacks is what it is, right?

No, she would put— so she would make the snacks. She would be like— she would make the snacks. She's like, what do you find disgusting? And again, using the German, different version. I can turn that up like 5 different levels. And I got a couple different— make her more aggressive.

Put on it. Do you find poop videos disgusting?

Wie will I ask the question?

You're like, I think I got the wrong number.

So, but she would equate something like maggots are disgusting So imagine that you're— basically, imagine that your Jelly Bellies are maggots and they are going to, you know— it's in my stand-up. I do it. I can't remember any jokes anymore. But anyway, so I would listen to it when I'd go to bed, and it worked for a while, but now, goddamn it, I want to eat chocolate pretzels all day long.

Yeah, of course. What if you just cut out the weed? You know, if you cut out the weed, then you don't get snacky at night.

Ooh, we cut out the weed, we cut out the we. You know what I mean? I got to be able to relate, my friend.

Um, last thing that I think is really fascinating that I did not know, uh, is Harry Styles helped you plan your proposal to your wife Lily. No way! I'm a big Harry Styles fan. How did that happen?

Uh, he— we were making that movie Don't Worry Darling, and which I think is most famous for the movie, and, uh, uh, it was the height of COVID Tell you what, that Olivia Wilde knows how knows how to direct a film. She sure does. Amazing. Truly. She directed it. It was— I had a— and I played her husband in the movie, and, um, so it was really fun to act with her. Like, I mean, you guys know, it's like when sometimes when you act with someone who's directing, you know, it's different levels. And she was great. I mean, she— anyway, so we, um, so he— it was the height of COVID um, and, uh, I was proposing to my wife, uh, we were And Harry, sort of like, we were planning it out. We were at the— we were doing the— we'd just done the table read, and we were all hanging out, and I was sort of figuring out, and we'd just— my wife and I had just moved into our new house, and so I, like, you know, I had a box, and I was like, "Can you just move this last box?" And she was like, "Give me a fucking break." You know what I mean?

Like, "You're gonna make me move the fucking box?" Like, you know? And I was like, "I don't know, Harry." So, no, I opened— she opened it up, open the box, there's a bunch of flowers in the ring. But Harry— and, and then that's so cool, he checked in with me to be like, how'd it go? So I told him basically before I spoke to— like, we spoke to our families to let them know that we were married because he was just— had been checking in.

That's so cool. That's so cool. What a story. I mean, yeah, it's really, really cool.

Sweet, sweet boy. Sweet. Yeah.

Nick Kroll, it's— you are a pleasure.

Uh, I can't believe how quickly this hour went. It's bananas.

I know. Yeah.

I just want to say, I, I, I've loved so many things that you've done. The top 3 are— no, no, the top— well, I just watched Numbers in the Chat.

Little Big Boy.

Yeah, I watched Little Big Boy. So fucking funny. And then, how far are you from Larchmont?

Is that where you're going?

No, um, and then, um, of course, uh, oh, uh, Cavemen. I, I, of course, I thought that was one of the funniest shows shows I'd ever seen. And it went— it was 6 episodes. I left based on the guy with Will and Josh.

Yeah, Will and Josh.

You guys had just done Blades of Glory. Yes. And then they— I love 4 hours of prosthetics. That was my first job. I was in 4 hours of prosthetics every morning to be one of the— it's so funny. But I wasn't in the commercials. And they— everyone hated the show. They loved the commercials, right? Everyone was like, I love the show. The critics hated the show. But what I always took solace in was that the public hated it as well. We got canceled. We shot 13 I was in prison 4 hours every morning. It was the worst. It was my first job, and it was the worst job and perfect first, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, yeah, thank fucking God. There's no way I could have done it later in my life.

So it's so funny that you like that show.

I love that show. And then, um, Publicity, of course. Yeah, you as Liz. Hey, Jay, have you ever seen him play Liz from Publicity? I'm from the— from the Kroll Show. I'm gonna send you a bunch It's like every—

yeah, you, it's— you've dealt with— you've done—

I mean, it's just like, as a, as a gay guy, it's like, I would kill to play Liz. I mean, yeah, great.

Thank you. Thank you.

Well, we want more Nick Kroll.

Yeah, no kidding.

Everything and anything. I'm stoked for your new—

I'm stoked for your new show.

Say how much fun you had today as Liz.

Oh my God, you guys, being on this podcast with you, one of the most coveted slots that any publicist could secure. Pure Spotify top 20, Apple top 20. The history, the camaraderie, the friendship, the absolute money grab that this podcast is for everybody involved. I love it. It's an honor to behold and to be held by you guys. Thank you guys.

Thank you, Nick. Love you to death.

Thank you, Nick. So good to see you, man.

Good to see you guys. Thanks for having me. Thank you, buddy. Thanks for doing this. You too. Thanks, guys.

Bye, buddy. Bye.

That's funny. The funny, funny Nick Kroll.

Yeah, yeah, it's so funny. And I love that he showed up to play, and he— I mean, he's so always— he's always ready to play. Yeah, he's— and look, clearly he's got 80,000 things going on.

But how great are these, these interviews when they feel like 5 minutes and I know never— you can— you never get to your questions, you know, just because the conversation's So good.

That was so— that was so quick.

He's a good fellow, that guy. Uh, I do— do send me, uh, some of that stuff. I will. And then I'll bet I'll go— I'll go down to the YouTube.

Do send me some of those.

Send those bits right after my toilet. Um, yeah, he's in full drag as Liz. It's so funny. I mean, the balls the guy has just to do—

and the whole show, there were so many amazing sketches on there.

Amazing sketches. Yeah.

Yeah, I should probably start—

But he did have— he said he did play that one character.

Here it is. Yeah, yeah, the teacher from Sit Down Shut Up. Yeah, what was the thing you remember about that teacher? Fuck, here we go.

Are you ready? Yeah, the character was bi— bisexual!

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