Transcript of 1032. Andy & DJ CTI: ICE Facility Chaos, Fake Navy Pilot Busted & Ferrari EVs New

Yeah, went from sleeping on the floor, now my jewelry box froze.

Fuck up boat, fuck up stove, counted millions in the cold.

Bad bitch, booty swole, got her own bankroll, can't fold. That's a no, headshot, case closed.

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What's up, dude? What's up, Doc? Nothing.

You know, I've been seeing these reels. It's like, you know, it's like they're like, you know, remember who you are, white boy. Taking pills and sleeping in my car. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I just— I was just thinking of you.

Oh, really? Yeah, because I forgot who I was. I don't need a reminder. Don't encourage me.

Oh, man. No, they've been awesome though, dude. They've been awesome. What you got going on?

I would like to introduce, you know, a new sponsor to the show.

Okay. All right.

We don't take ads for—

That's right.

Okay. We got these, we got these fruit barrels. All right. Now, I'm not going to say the name of the company because they didn't actually sponsor me and I don't want them to get mad at me. Yeah, because maybe they're like some woke weirdos. I don't fucking know.

Maybe.

Anyway, if you don't know about these, you don't know.

Yeah. It's weird, though, that you got all the flavors. They only have one here.

Yeah.

How'd that work?

We thought that was the only one you would like. That's the purple.

Yeah, it is, bro. Yeah, there's these things. You know what I like about the bottle? They're so versatile. You can do everything with— like, you can do a lot of different things with these bottles. Yeah, I mean, like, I mean, from, from, you know, handheld grenades.

Yep. I think that's why they make them that shape, is like to train certain doctors to throw grenades, right? That's how they— that's how they brainwash us, bro.

Bro, grenades. You find— I used to stick this shit in the back of my tire on my bike.

Where?

On the back of the tire.

Oh, okay.

Make it sound like a motorcycle and you can dip into it from all the bikes I've stolen.

Yeah, bro. The— it's not your bike.

That's a motorcycle, bro.

When we were growing up, this was like, if you had this, you were king of the pores. Okay, this, this is what this is. Okay, there's levels to this game. There's levels to this game. Everybody knows. Okay, you had Tang, right? Tang.

Yeah.

And it tastes like shit.

Yeah.

But they sold you on it as a kid because they're like, oh man, that's what the astronauts drink. That's right. That's what they drink on the moon. And then you come to find out you didn't go to the fucking moon. It's all a lie, right?

They didn't have Tang at all.

Yeah, Tang's just horrible. So anyway, You had Tang and then you had, you know, regular Kool-Aid or Kool-Aid or whatever they had. Right. But then they got into the prepackaged drinks. All right. And this is at the bottom level of the prepackaged drinks.

Right. That's right.

So above this, Capri Suns, right? Hawaiian Punch pouches, Kool-Aid pouches, Jammers. Okay, bro. Now we're talking this. That's a different category. All right. That's, that's like you're rich now.

Yeah, it's like upper class. Yes, that's right. But for poor people, that's right.

This is the shit. This is king of the poor shit right here.

I used to cut my lip on these.

So, bro, I loved these as a little kid.

Fucking blood and purple drink, dog. You know what I'm saying? That's all you taste.

Yeah, that's all you taste now. Anyway. But yeah, I always wanted these things. Like, I always wanted them and we didn't have them.

Yeah.

And I was willing to go to extremes to get one.

Oh, is that right?

Yeah.

I mean, what are we talking about here?

Breaking and entering?

Yeah, I know a thing or two.

I learned it from watching you.

You broke into somebody's house for this? Yes. I feel like we have time. I feel like we have time.

I think it was a dream.

Okay. Well, I mean, the statute of limitations is gone.

If I was writing a movie about it, this is how it would have happened. All right. I definitely woke up early one day and you got to remember I was fat. All right. And I wanted one of these things, man. But, you know, there wasn't any to be had. But I knew where there was some. And we were in— we were in Shawnee Town, Illinois, which is where my mom's from. And the neighbors, they had these. So I walked over to the house in the morning and I knocked on the door. And this is back, you know, nobody locked their door, right?

So this was like a safe area.

Yeah. Like, yeah. Well, I mean, bro, everybody was civilized back then. Wasn't until all the savages came around, right?

So truth to that. Yeah.

So I remember who you are. So it was mostly white. So, so anyway, so, so I knocked on the door, the fucking screen. It was like the, the store, the big door was open, but the screen door was not. I knocked on the door. No one answered. Knocked on it again. No one answered. Knocked on it again. No one answered. So I figured The coast was clear.

Oh my God.

And I knew where they were, so I went down in the basement and I got me one of those barrel drinks.

That's so bad. Oh yeah, that's so bad.

I know.

I wasn't envisioning like you like climbed through the fucking window or something. No, your little legs were doing—

I was gonna ask. I figured they wouldn't mind. I mean, they gave them to me when I fucking—

Yeah, yeah, that's fine.

But I mean, you knew the neighbors, dude. Imagine if they would have woke up and saw this fat little kid in the fucking basement fucking slamming barrel drinks, bro. This just happened. It wasn't—

they didn't break in, but some little dude, he like was walking through the neighborhood and just went up to these people's houses like, I smell barbecue, can I get a plate?

You saw that? Yeah, that would have been me, dude. They gave him a plate though.

Yeah, they did. Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's cool, you know. Yeah, that's wild.

It's neighborly.

Yeah, these are, uh, these are OG right here.

I don't think I ever really told that story before.

I've never heard it.

That's a real thing.

That's fucking crazy, dude. I believe it.

And it was the red that I took. I remember.

Does it still taste the same?

I can't taste it because I'm on 75 hard.

Oh man.

But I'm definitely saving these for later.

Yeah, you should. You absolutely should. Yeah. Hell yeah.

I mean, is my assessment correct on these?

Oh, no, I think you're spot on. King of the Poor's for sure.

For me, you— it made you feel rich, but you weren't.

Yeah. Like, these were— I mean, well, I guess we were kind of like a Tesla. We had these all the time. Yeah. Yeah. We know we had these a lot. What? When it was like going good and this was like maybe a couple of times a year, we'd get the Kool-Aid Jammers.

Yeah.

And that was like our special treat.

Was the Jammers— were they the ones in the bottle where you twist the top?

Yep.

And it looked like a Coke bottle. Yeah, man.

Yep. Yep. Good times, man. You know, good times.

Yeah.

I don't remember my dad being in it. Yeah.

He went to get more Jammers.

That's right.

Yeah. They're hard to find.

Yeah, man. No, guys, it's going to be a great show. Got a lot of shit to cover and talk about before we even get into the headlines, though. Dude, I found— I saw this video, uh, I think I found this last Monday because we didn't have a show Monday, and I was gonna play it then. This video is fucking hilarious. Um, so this guy is in court, all right, and his attire that he chose to wear to court, uh, the judge has some questions for him. So let's check this clip out real quick. What's your name, sir?

Ryan Redmond.

You're a strip club veteran? I just— Judge, I want to thank him for his service, actually. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. How many tours of duty did you do? 2500 personal bond. Mr. Redmond, did you get a Purple Heart?

No, sir.

All right, review date May 29th in front of Judge Robbins. Step aside, sir. And thank you for your service.

That's funny, dude.

You get a Purple Heart.

Hey man, let's have some more of that. That's some funny shit right there.

I mean, listen, you're going to jail, but you know, have a little fun while you're going.

Oh, you didn't do nothing too bad. $2,500. You know, what do you do? What do you get? What do you do for $2,500?

Oh, I mean, you gotta do nothing. It depends on where you are.

Depends on who you are.

Oh, I mean, because I mean, that might be Illinois. He might have killed someone.

I mean, if he was an immigrant, bro, he fucking probably murdered a whole family, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah, fuck, dude. Yeah, I just did. I thought that's good. Salute to this man, the lawyer.

I'd like to thank him for his service.

I think the judge said, how many tours of booty did you do?

Did he really say that?

No, I think that's what he said. How many tours of booty? I mean, how many tours of duty? Like trying to make a fucking joke of it. Oh, I love it, dude. Gosh, that's good. Let's get into it, man. All right, let's, let's do the damn thing. Let's remember who we are, guys.

Let's remember, you know what I'm saying?

Right, guys, remember, if you'd like to see any of this—

I just love that no one gives a fuck anymore. Oh, it's over. Yeah, the fucking racial shit is over. No one gives a fuck. Everybody's back to being cool and joking, and I'm happy for the Young Bucks because now they get to understand what the fuck it was like. Oh yeah, not everybody had to run around on fucking you know, eggshells, you know, I can't say this, or if I say that, they might get offended. Now it's like we talked about, everybody got their fuck you back, man. Fuck you, dude.

You know what's funny? Like, I mean, I think we talked about fucking joke.

If you can't discern between a fucking joke and laugh at some shit that is a joke and give some back, then fuck off.

Yeah, just fuck off. Yeah, go cut your dick off.

Yeah, go, go fucking be mad at everybody your whole life about everything.

You know, they can take dicks, can't take jokes.

It's weird.

Yeah. No, I do. What's funny about that though, to that point, it's like I felt this way like maybe like 6 months ago. I felt that we were back.

Yeah.

Right. But like there was still some things that were like missing, you know what I'm saying? Like, like there were still lines that like had not been crossed.

Yeah.

It's all done now. It's all done and it's fucking great. I love it.

Yeah, it is nice.

It's nice.

It feels like a weight's been lifted. You know, I don't feel like I need to I don't feel like I need to pull my white privilege card out anymore, you know what I'm saying? Just keep that thing in reserve.

Yeah, well, yeah, might get stolen still, you know.

I definitely max this shit out though, let me tell you that, while it worked.

Yeah, man. Well, yeah, guys, let's jump into it. Remember, if you would like to see any of these pictures, articles, links, videos, go to andyforsella.com. You guys can check them, link there. That being said, headline number 1, there's a lot that has been happening actually. Um, you saw Tulsi Gabbard resigning. That's interesting. Yeah, I'm saying that there's some personal stuff going on. That's cool. Um, but, uh, ICE is back in the news. Protests are back.

Oh really?

Anti-ICE protests. Yeah, they're, they're back in action. Um, this has been a pretty big story happening over the last few days, but to our point, bro, people are over this shit.

White and Black, they're over it because it's fucking ridiculous and everybody's caught on that it's all funded propaganda.

It's all bullshit, man. And, you know, but it's good to see protesters getting their asses beat.

Oh, we get some of that.

Oh, fuck yeah. All right. Getting that.

We got videos and stuff and—

oh, fuck yeah, we do.

Favorite kind of videos.

Oh, yeah. Protesters.

Oh, yeah. Those are my favorite ones, dude.

Yeah, I start sweating. It's like I'm watching Cops.

Yeah. Why do you think I keep my haircut so short? Get on the fucking ground. DJ cut my hair today, bro. He's like, is this short enough? I said, give me that. Give me that, uh, get on the ground here. As you can see, I fucking got it too, baby.

Yeah, yeah. How close you want it? I want it close, like don't touch yours, I won't touch mine close.

That's right.

Um, no dude, it's good to see. And, and what's also good to see is like the public who are now being affected by these fucking anti-ICE protests, they're also, uh, over it. Yeah, and it's great to see. So let's check in on this, what we got happening. Um, this is a Fox headline, reads, police absent from Delaney Hall, chaos as agitators block ICE vehicles and agents use pepper spray. Um, this is coming out of Newark, New Jersey. So Mayor Ras Baraka's police department was nowhere to be found as tensions rose late Wednesday outside the Delaney Hall illegal immigrant detention center. Protesters took over roles typically reserved for the pro-police, uh, while ICE agents deployed pepper spray after a federal vehicle entered the premises and sparked chaos among the crowd. Baraka, who lost the 2025 Democratic gubernatorial primary to Governor Mike, uh, Mickey Sherrill, had previously been arrested outside Delaney Hall during similar mayhem last year, um, and has been defiant in demanding state and federal officers take action to close um, the facility. So this has been going on since Wednesday heavily. Um, they've been, uh, the protesters have been putting up barricades and shit.

It's funny how they don't like walls, but you know, they like to wall shit off. You know, that's interesting. Um, and it's been chaotic, dude. Let's check this first clip.

There we go! Get him!

Yeah, they've been whooping ass, dude. I saw this, bro. I tried to find—

I saw, you know, like, dude Do cops still carry those batons?

Yeah, the collapsible ones.

The collapsible ones.

Yeah, that's what they were just using.

Back in my day, bro, they carried what was called a nightstick. Mm. You know what a nightstick is?

I know what a nightstick is, yeah.

Bro, you could always tell the cops that you didn't wanna fuck with, 'cause their nightstick was like all dented and shit.

Bro, the nightsticks, the fucking Maglite flashlights.

Oh man.

Bro, I'm talking about the foot-long fucking inch and a half thick fucking Maglites.

Yeah.

Uh, yeah, you don't fuck with those guys. You don't fuck with those guys. Yeah, I saw this.

I saw—

I tried to find this fucking clip. I saw it today or yesterday maybe, but it was, um, at Delaney Hall. These two guys, what are they—

what are they protesting?

Uh, whatever George Soros told them to.

Yeah, George Floyd still.

That's right.

Yeah.

Uh, but these two, these two dudes were like leaving out of the facility. There were two like brown Hispanic looking dudes and all the protesters started clapping.

Right?

Yeah, it's a brown dude's leave out. And then the guys, like the ICE agents who were like in uniform behind the fence, they're like, those are two ICE agents, dumb fucks. They're like clapping at these two dudes. Like, like, like they're so racist they can't even fucking—

they can't even recognize their own racism, bro. Yeah, they can't even get it. You just see brown people start clapping, they fuck it. It's always white people. It's always white people, bro. It's fucking— it's white people with with like white guilt.

Yeah, bro.

Who fucking inherently think they're better and smarter and have some sort of responsibility to like take care of the dumb little poor brown people, right? That's what it always is. And they can't even understand it. Like, that's how they think.

And they sound so racist.

Yeah, dude. And then when they're not on their team, when people— when those people aren't on their team, then they start calling them racial shit.

Fuck them. Yeah, 100%, dude. But the people over it, you know, and again, it's nice to see, right? This next clip I got for you. So this guy, he's at work, he's trying, he's a trash truck driver. He's just trying to fucking do his job.

Yeah.

And these fucking paid protesters decide to block traffic and all their usual, you know, usual semantics.

See all the dudes there had mad buns and shit.

Oh yeah. Yeah. All of them. All of them. But this, this truck driver was not having it. Let's check this clip.

I get locked up.

What am I doing?

Am I bothering y'all?

If I hit one of y'all, I ain't going to jail, right?

No, I ain't going to jail. If I hit y'all, I'm going to jail, right? Come on. What's wrong with y'all, man? Come on, man.

Infighting.

All fucking dumbass white people, bro. They all grow— they all from the suburbs, you know what I'm saying?

Completely unaffected.

They've— dude, they don't even know what the fucking work is. Like, like, where, where do you not have a job? Yes, that is their job. That's right. Yeah, it's this. I'm making a difference, you know.

But here's a guy who's trying to fucking, you know, do his job so he can feed his fucking family right now.

Yeah. And these folks, it's hard enough.

It's hard fucking enough, dude, you know. And then, yeah, like, he's probably right. It's New Jersey. So I mean, if he was to fucking push past him, he's going to jail. Yeah.

Yeah. You know, these people are ridiculous.

It's over.

And I love how they, like, are still doing the camera shit, throwing it in everybody's face like it fucking matters. It's over. It's over. The power— no one gives a fuck anymore. Videotape us, actually.

Please tag me.

Yeah.

So it goes viral, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah. No one cares, bro. They've worn out their welcome. Like, it just is what it is. And I think it's a wonderful thing. It means natural order is restoring. Okay. These people are getting punched in the face and they're understanding that, like, you can't just fuck with people. Like, I saw this one the other day, dude. This dude, uh, This, this like little soy nerd who's probably like, I don't know, in his mid-20s is yelling at this guy who's probably 60. And the guy's holding up his arm and he's like, don't, don't touch me, don't touch me, don't touch me. And the guy fucking pokes him in the chest and this fucking old man knocks him the fuck out, dude. And it was a beautiful thing. And then he got on top of him and started the ground and pound. I was pretty impressed.

It's great.

But like, you know, these kids have never felt the physical repercussions that, you know, people of my age grew up with. Like, we knew, like, if you were to talk shit to another man or cross a line with another man, there's going to be physical repercussions.

It's a possibility.

And that's a great thing because it creates respect. So you understand and you evaluate which things are important enough to take an issue with versus what's not. And that's why you have all these young little pussy fuckers get in everybody's face, because they've never been punched in the face, bro. You know, this— look at them all. Look, they all are the same. They all look the same. They're all the same kind of people. They— their testosterone collectively is zero still, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, these dudes, you know, they cry after they have sex. You know, these are fucking— these are Fucking weak. The weakest men in the fucking world, period. Yeah. And they're, you know, they come out with their science class goggles on and they're—

that they stole.

Yeah. Like, and 95 masks. Like, bro, you know what, dude?

If—

how about this? How about if you're man enough to stand up for something, you show your fucking face?

Yeah. Stand on it.

Yeah, that's right. Stand on it.

Stand on it.

Fuck these people.

I got the video of the protest. The one I was just talking about, but not just sent it to me. Shout out to Madat. He's not that bad all the time, dude. This is, this is literally the funniest fucking video that I've seen in a long time, and it's just, it's just so refreshing. It's so refreshing. Here it is, let's check this out. They work here, dumbasses.

They're laughing, dude. Bro, at this point in time, that's the best steak, dude. They're getting laughed at. They work here, dumbasses. Oh dude, you see the other guys laughing? They're bending over laughing so hard, bro. That's just great. I think it is too.

This is fucking great. They're not being released.

They work here, you dumbasses. Bro, bro, it's the same thing with these, with These people 3 years ago were locking arms and protesting the climate. You know, these are people gluing their hands to the fucking countertops at Starbucks. Yeah, Starbucks. Like, it's all the same kind of people, dude. They're losers. They have no life. They have— they don't really stand for anything, right? They think they do, but they don't. It's just, dude, it's just worthless. Like, I don't even know what to say. Like, what? I don't know what they are.

Listen, I want more of this. Just acid.

It's always fun to see someone like understand the first time.

Like, you know, like there's like a real—

yeah, like there's— you could see the lights come on and they're like, oh shit.

Yeah, dude, I love that. It's great. We need more of it. Yeah, we need it.

We need— well, I mean, I don't think it's stopping anytime soon. I think the bigger problem we're going to have that they are going to face is stopping it. Like, because that side is picking up steam. And I don't think these guys understand. They're still living 7 years ago.

Yeah.

You know.

Yeah, for sure.

Now where people were afraid to be put on the internet and afraid to say things and people are just done with it, dude.

Yeah. Now, now one of the things that is a topic that's happening around this, you know, we have a new DHS Secretary, Mullen. He's, he's now in, right. Um, and one of the contention pieces is behind these sanctuary cities, uh, and states, you know, the local mayors or the governors, they are directly telling local law enforcement— we talked about this with Chad Bianco when he was on, uh, you know, these local governments, city governments, state governments, they're literally directly telling police officers like, you cannot help these ICE agents during things like this, right? And like, that's been a big contention piece. Um, and so now DHS Secretary Mullen, uh, this is his response and what could happen, uh, should this type of stuff continue to happen. This is going to be the response from DHS. I want you to weigh in on this. Let's check this out.

Today, Sean, and, um, I said, you know, if they're gonna— if they're going to not allow us to, um, to go out and arrest the worst of the worst, and then when we call for assistance at the facilities that the street, it belongs to the city, if it belonged to us, we would take care of it, but it belongs to the city, and they're barricading our employees from coming in and out of the facility, then why are we processing international flights into the airport there? And we are currently, which we're not initiated yet, but we're currently drawing up plans to say, listen, these sanctuary cities where the local radical left Democrats aren't allowing us to do our job and enforce federal laws, then we shouldn't be processing international flights into their cities either, because they don't want us to enforce immigration, but they want us to process immigration at their facilities. Nothing about that makes sense to me. Let me tell you, I never thought about that. Yeah, it's not wrong, though.

He's not wrong. Yeah. Well, I mean, what do you think on that? I mean, is that an effective solution or is this like a— you think this is just like an open-ended threat?

I don't know.

I mean, so right now it stands, Logan Airport, Boston, Philadelphia gone, Portland done, Denver done. There's like 10+ named airports right now on the proposed list that would be affected by this.

I don't know. I mean, these people get on TV and say all kinds of shit that sounds good and they seem to do none of it. So, you know, I don't have any faith that anything real is going to happen here. I still believe that if anything real is going to happen, it's going to have to become, uh, it's going to have to be such a force from the actual people that the government's forced to do it in order for them to keep order.

Yeah, I have an idea. I have an idea. If this makes it to the White House, I have an idea. We take, we take like, you know, I don't know, maybe like the $5 billion or, you know, $9 billion instead of sending it up, you know, over there. We take that, you put that into a special fund and you have a citizen's response unit that gets funded with that. And so American citizens, right, they can—

they can earn money.

Yeah, you know, catch an alien, right? Like, be like, you know, $5,000 an alien or something. Like, bounties on them, you know what I'm saying? We fucking bring them to the nearest facility, $5,000.

It would solve the problem pretty quick. We get them out.

Yeah, I mean, fuck, we're hurting. So you're accomplishing a couple of things.

The problem with that is though, is that then you have people going after Because like, dude, in my opinion, there is— there are people that shouldn't be here, and then there's people that shouldn't be here but contribute.

Yeah.

And that is a very blurred line that has been walked in this country for a long time. And like, for example, I don't think that anybody that I know— this for sure— anybody that I know that says get everybody the fuck out is not talking about Mexican people. Yeah, they're not talking about that. Yeah, they're talking about these people that are— that have been flown in and migrated in that are from third world shitholes across the other side of the planet that bring their culture here and try to transform this country into their culture.

Yeah. Mexican, like, post— like post-2021.

Mexican people don't do that. They come here, they have their pride, which we all enjoy. Everybody understands Mexican culture and its place in American culture. And so you run the risk in that situation of having people go after the wrong people, in my opinion. But see, the problem with this is, is like, to clean the mess up How do you walk that line?

Yeah, right.

You know, right. Because I don't think there's— I'm sure there's people that are like, fuck it, all of them. But like, dude, I mean, maybe, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know the solution, but I know this. These motherfuckers that came here over the last 4 or 5 years got to fucking go. They got to go, you know?

Yeah. I mean, I don't know the perfect solution, but I do know the, you know, Solution ain't just fucking doing nothing and letting them stay.

Or, you know, you make it as their country of origin. Okay, what's their country of origin? If their country of origin is anything besides Mexico, then you gotta fucking go. Okay, that's the truth. So I don't know, that's how I feel about it.

Yeah, yeah, because I mean, dude, that was just the gateway into here.

Yeah, that's right.

Most of the people did not come— no, it came via Mexico.

Yeah, and we do have a lot of fucking idiots that think like You know, oh, we got to get rid of all the Mexicans, dude. Like, these are people who come here who are contributing to society, who are doing work, who are doing things. They're—

who love this country.

That's right. They love it. These people do not love the country.

No.

Okay. They are coming here to conquer the country culturally. They are not coming here to assimilate into American culture. They are coming here to bring their practices and the way they do things, such as these people from Somalia up in Minnesota, and defraud the American taxpayer out of their hard-earned dollar. Oh yeah, those people have to fucking go. All of them. Not some of them. Not this guy and that guy. All of them have to go. All of them have to go. If we want to save the country, that has to happen because If it doesn't, these people reproduce like 6 to 1 compared to an American family.

Yeah.

So that means that in 2 generations, the American culture will not exist. So it's a very important thing. The biggest treasonous act that's ever happened in this country was the— what Biden did under, under his 4 years here with allowing those people come in, not allowing them, but facilitating it.

Yeah, right, right. It's a difference. Just unlock the door.

Yeah. And anybody who paid and anybody who contributed money to it and anybody who funded the NGOs or the NGOs, those people should all be in jail like forever. They should be in jail for fucking ever. They clearly are not in the interests of America or American people. They have this idea that American people have unlimited pocketbooks and can just support the world. And it's just not the truth. And we're seeing it now. So, you know, But then again, from a practical standpoint, how do you execute that play? This would have been very easy for Trump to execute had he done it immediately. It was the vast majority of voters, both Democrat and Republican, supported mass immigration— mass, uh, deportation when he took office. But then he waited a whole year to really start doing it. Then people had lost their, uh, their momentum and their, their, their drive to actually have that happen. And then when they got to see what it actually looks like, you know, it made their stomachs hurt. Well, dude, I'm sorry. Like, people who interfere with law enforcement officers, people who cause problems for law enforcement officers, it's pretty much common sense that you run the risk of getting shot.

Like, that's real shit. And everybody with common sense here in America fucking understands that, right or wrong or indifferent. We all understand that. So the reality is it should have been handled immediately. If it were me, I would have handled it immediately. I would have set up fucking processing centers. It would have been ugly, but it would have been done and we wouldn't be talking about this right now. But that didn't happen.

So I'm, you know, I mean, shit, you guys watching, listening, let us know in the comments what you guys think the best solution is.

They got to go, bro. Yeah, they got to go one way or the other or the American culture will not survive. Your kids will grow up in a third world culture that fucking hates them. That's the thing. So you can sympathize and you can say, oh man, that's not very nice or this or that. Well, the world ain't always fucking nice, man. It's not always nice. Bad things have to happen. Ugly things have to happen in order to have civility. And that's what needs to be understood. And I think most people do understand that. Because the fact of the matter is, is most of the people that protest these things are being paid to protest these things, which means they don't even believe what the fuck they're actually protesting.

100%.

So why are we having any sympathy or bleeding heart for any of these people? We shouldn't. So, you know, people need to get their heads out of their asses and understand what needs to happen in order for us to get our country back.

100%, man. Guys, jump in on this conversation down in the comments. Let us know what you guys think. That being said, let's keep cruising. We got headline number 2, more fraud. You know, you know, I think, I think I realized, Andy, I'm in the wrong business, bro.

Oh yeah.

Yep, I'm in the wrong business. Um, I should have just, you know, went to work for the federal government because, you know, I would have been, you know, I would have been all right, bro. You know what I'm saying? Uh, $40 million in gold bars. Cash and Rolexes. Former CIA official. Yeah. Who also faked being a Navy pilot. Absolutely insane.

Insane.

Let's dive into this.

Uh, former gold bars and currency were for foreign-related work expenses is what he said. Yeah. Get the fuck out of here, dude.

Yep. Um, a former senior US government official with top secret security clearance was arrested after the FBI raided his Virginia home and discovered a staggering $40 million stash of gold bars, $2 million in cash, 35 luxury watches. Court documents revealed David J. Rush was arrested May 19th and is facing federal charges for theft of public money after allegedly swindling the government out of tens of millions of dollars while posing as a highly decorated Navy Reserve captain and Air Force test pilot. Uh, he held a senior position with the CIA until recently, according to a report from the New York Times. According to the unsealed criminal complaint and FBI affidavit, the grift unraveled after Rush made multiple requests to his agency between November 2025 and March 2026 for a, quote, significant quantity of foreign currency and tens of millions of dollars in gold bars. Rush claimed the payout was strictly for, quote, work-related expenses, but an FBI search of his home on May 18th turned up roughly 303 1-kilogram gold bars, $2 million in US currency, and dozens of luxury watches, many of which were Rolexes, according to court documents. A federal investigation revealed that despite holding a senior executive service rank and top-secret SCI clearance, Rush routinely lied about his military background and education.

In applications for his high-level job, Rush claimed he was a graduate of the U.S. Air Force Test Pilot School and the current director of tests for a 145-person, 18-aircraft joint Army-Navy weapons test organization, according to court documents. However, military records show Rush was never a pilot and held no FAA license. So you—

this guy works for the CIA, right? No one ever checked this.

Hmm. How does that happen?

Well, it happens because other people are in on it, dude.

He ain't the only one.

No, at all. And by the way, these people can just request fucking money and they get it. Okay, so, so they could just request money, currency, gold bars, whatever, and just get it. And that's our money. You see, anybody see a problem with that? Bro, this guy should be executed.

Agreed.

Yeah. And by the way, the only way for him to save himself from being executed should be for him to tell the truth on what's actually going on. So we're either going to execute you or you're going to tell us exactly what the fuck you know about every single thing. I mean, isn't that what the CIA is good at anyway? Isn't that what they do to everybody else?

Interrogation.

Isn't that what they do? They say, hey, we're going to kill you, we're going to kill your family unless you you tell us all this shit. And that what they do. So like, what— why shouldn't they have the same repercussions that they do on everybody else?

Dude, it needs to be disbanded.

Yeah, it does. The CIA needs to be completely disbanded. It's too corrupt. There's too much shit. And the good thing about this happening— there's two, there's two things. There's a good thing and a bad thing. The good thing about this happening is there's probably likely more of this to come out because this guy is going to try to save his ass.

Yeah, for sure. All right.

The bad thing that's happening is that people will see this as some sort of massive win and not really understand the scope and scale of the fraud that's actually been going on. If we're going to arrest this person for $40 million, what should happen to the congresspeople who insider traded and made hundreds of millions of dollars? What should happen to the people who ran all these little fake shell companies and for the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars and billions of dollars, tens of billions of dollars collectively? Okay, so this, this feels good, but this isn't a real win.

No.

Now, could it be the beginning of a real win? Sure, it could be. But that all depends on how much these people want to actually dig to the bottom of this. Because at the end of the day, we all know how these criminals are, bro. It's, it's, you know, they're all in it together. They all fucking work together. Look at this piece of shit. You know, these people think that they're fucking entitled to the tax dollars of the men and women who go out in this country and do the right thing. They get up every single day and they work hard, and then they get taxed at a 50% rate all in. At a minimum off of everything that they purchase. And what are they rewarded with? They're rewarded with people who claim to protect them actually stealing their shit. What's that sound like to you? Because what that sounds like to me is not any different than street-level organized crime at a fucking macro scale. Okay, you're gonna pay me a cut of your business's operations, and in return, we're going to protect you. Well, who are you protecting us from? Oh, you're protecting us from you.

Right, bro.

So that's what we're dealing with here. So yeah, the organization should not exist. And if they want to create a new organization that actually operates within the boundaries of what it's supposed to do with foreign agencies and keeping eyes on foreign things that are going on, that's fine. But the fact that the CIA or the FBI have any sort of, uh, you know, ability to operate within our bounds against American citizens is fucking ridiculous. It's ridiculous. Okay.

You know, and the problem is, dude, like, I don't even know how many people work at the CIA right now. Can you look that up?

The problem is, dude, they both need to be rebuilt from the ground up.

For sure. Yeah, for sure. My fear is it's almost like the deportation situation, right? Like, how many people? About 22,000. These people, like, I'm not like, I'm not, I'm not going to try to give them more credit than due, but like, these people have highly, a very high set of skills, right? Do they? I mean, obviously, if you can fucking fleece the government for gold bars, it doesn't seem to be that hard.

If fucking 68 IQ Somalis do it.

That's true.

Okay. Apparently all you got to do is fucking lie.

I'm just— my point being, like, you can't just fire, like, Firing these people and just leaving them in society doesn't work either. You know what I'm saying? Like these, these people, bro, like top to bottom, like there has to be some heavy punishment for this shit.

Yes. They need to be made examples of. Like it's treasonous shit.

He's not the only one.

Look at his look on his face. What's that look on his face tell you?

He doesn't look—

I'll tell you what it tells me.

Like he don't look sorry.

What do you think it says?

I'll get away with this.

That's what it says. It says you don't know who you're fucking with. Yeah, I'm a top-level CIA guy. I'll be out of here in a fucking hour. That's what that fucking face says.

Like, it's just temporary embarrassment. I'll get over it. Yeah, it'll be fine.

When in reality, the dude should be strung the fuck up in public. Okay. And forced to tell everybody what the fuck is actually going on as the only way to save your public dismemberment. That's the truth.

Dude, you—

dude, look, we're too soft here, okay? We're too soft. The culture's too soft. You guys got to understand, we're going to need unsettling acts of violence against traitors to stop the behavior. Yeah, that is what is going— that's what it's going to take because there are no repercussions for these people. These people think they're above the law. They think they're kings and queens of you. And that is not what this country is about. Okay, so you take this guy and you make a fucking example of him in a very public, in a very violent way. And you know what? People will stop and think twice about what they're doing. Okay, this is no different than people who rape and murder and do violent crimes.

Do the same to them.

Okay, the only way to discourage it is to make the punishment something that they fear. And dude, people on the ground level that are criminal, they don't care about jail anymore. No, in fact, because of hip-hop culture, it's been glorified where people think it's something to brag about.

Cool.

Oh, I went to fucking prison for— that's not cool, man.

No.

Okay, so like, if they're not scared, because like, dude, you have two main motivators of people. You have the carrot, the positive reward, or you have the stick, the pain. They're not afraid of the fucking stick.

Everybody understands violence, though, dude.

It's— well, people will say, well, we should never resort to violence. What happens to you if you fucking— who shows up at your house if you don't pay your fucking taxes? Oh, dudes with guns.

Mm-hmm. Sounds pretty violent.

Well, I'm just saying, like, violence is the standard at which rules are enforced. So that's what it's going to take to stop this. And there should be people in our government. And the reason there's not is because they all got their fucking hands dirty because they don't want to end up on the fucking end of that. And then you have a bunch of bleeding hearts that are like, well, we don't want to give the power to the fucking to do that. Well, how else do you expect to solve this problem? Okay, I understand. How else do you expect to solve this problem? The only way that I know how to solve the problem personally is doing what I said.

It may not be the only way, but it's the only way to guarantee it doesn't fucking keep happening. It's infuriating out there. Like, we, we talk—

this guy had $40 fucking million. How much money do y'all have?

That's what I'm saying, dude. Like, people are fucking—

by the way, you have $40 million of your dollars.

People are struggling and he could just fucking put in a request for fucking pure gold bars. Like, what the fuck are we talking about here?

We're talking about the same thing we always talk about, bro. We are slaves. We are designed— our country is a lie, okay? On paper and what we've been told and what the founding documents say, that's all great. That's what it should be.

Sounds amazing.

None of that shit is enforced. None of that shit is real anymore. The country has— we have replaced the sign of freedom on the outside of the store with the sign of, you know, it still says freedom, but on the inside there's nothing free about it.

There's an asterisk in fine print.

Yeah, right.

That's right.

Like, it's bullshit. And like, guys like this deserve the harshest punishment possible because it comes— that position comes with a certain level of extra responsibility. Okay, so the punishment needs to be much harsher than it would be for the typical little fraudster.

Yeah. Now, dude, disband this shit, bro. I'm over it. Disband it. Get them out of here. Get them out of here, bro.

How many fucking ops has the CIA run on our country? How many things have they—

Well, let them tell it. Zero. How?

Yeah, right. How many times? How many of these disturbing social events and narratives were propagated through the funneling of tax dollars, through positions, through institutions like USAID and NGOs And then they have driven the idea of division and racism and these, these things that people on the street generally don't believe, which is why they have to pay people to stand up for them.

Yeah.

So like the amount of disruption that they're causing culturally, it's weaponized destabilization that is funded by our own money that we go to work every day and earn.

Yeah.

Like, dude, when you really think about that, That is fucking super fucking treasonous, bro, because not only are you keeping people in a financial situation of financial hardship intentionally, but then you're, you're using their money to make it even worse so that you can maintain power so you can do things like this.

Work-related services.

Yeah. Yeah, bro. He thinks he's going to get away with it too.

I want, I want whoever, who, who's stamped and approved.

That's what I'm saying.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I get that person too.

Yeah, get them too. Get them all.

Get them. Like, who, who the fuck approved this?

Get them all.

What the fuck does work-related services mean? Yeah, like, who believed that? You didn't believe it. You know what the fuck the play is.

Yeah, because they're doing it too.

Get them, bro. Get them all. Fuck them. I'm sick of it, bro. This fraud shit is insane.

This is how much better our country would be. How much easier would it be for the American citizens to survive if our own country wasn't defrauding us out of our own money?

Yeah.

Like, you understand that, bro? Like, they can print money on demand, so—

or just give it out for work-related services.

But listen, man, it's a fucking scam, okay? Go to work, pay your tax. We'll make the country great with your tax dollars. But yet when they need money, they just go print it anyway. So then if that's the case, then what's the purpose of actual taxes? Because they sure as fuck aren't spending them on our infrastructure, on us. Okay, every other country in the fucking East has high-speed rail. They've got a clean culture. You go to Japan, you can leave the keys to your fucking Rolls-Royce on the window and nobody will touch it. They have a high-trust society. Okay, we don't have that. And the reason we don't have that is because we are propagated by our own fucking tax dollars to not have it. All right. So like, what's worse than that? What's worse than people that we trust to maintain and protect this country stealing our tax dollars, flying in 20 million third-worlders, stealing the money for their own benefit, putting it into USAID, funding USAID, creating all this division through all these NGOs. Like, what's— explain what's worse than that. What is worse than that? What's more treasonous than that? That is the destruction of America while they steal our money to do it.

Nobody's talking about this shit. It's like everybody just accepts it like it's okay. This is not fucking okay. This isn't— this is not what this country is supposed to be, and everybody fucking knows it. If they would just stop and think about it. And they say, oh, well, don't pay tax, dude. Do you like— explain to me how they've used your tax dollars effectively in any which way. I would like to—

yeah, show me.

Yeah, show me, show me, show me. Well, America is the greatest country in the world. Where have you been? Anywhere else? You see what I'm saying? Oh, and by the way, why are we funding also, uh, you know, 80 or 90 other countries with our money, right? Like, and you guys think we're free, bro? Get the fuck out of here, dude. Wake up. Wake up.

Yeah. The other piece on this, right? I mean, just, just on all the fraud shit because it's still a high-level topic and now there's this like fight fraud task force that's going around and shit. That's cool, right? DHS is also pushing this. There's now this like new push across all the states. We knew it wasn't just Minnesota, we've talked about that. We knew it wasn't just California, we talked about that, or just New York. It's fucking everywhere. Um, and now there's this big explosion of fraud specifically in autism treatments and Medicare. Um, there's an 11,000% increase in just 4 years. Um, and, uh, that's, that's the next talking piece. Let's, let's, let's check this out real quick.

all 50 American states looking for potentially massive fraud in the billing of autism treatment. This is happening now amid a recent explosion in spending on autism services. North Carolina alone apparently saw an 11,000% increase in the last 4 years. Why was that? Good question for Alex Alexandria Hoff live in D.C. Alex, hello, good morning. Hey, Bill, yeah, it is a good question because according to that data coming out of North Carolina, the use of taxpayer-funded autism services is significantly outpacing the number of children being diagnosed. So something's not right there, and it's not just in the Tar Heel State. A recent analysis by the Cato Institute found that in 5 years Medicaid billing has surged in every other state that makes their data public for money spent on on ABA therapy. It's applied behavior analysis. That's what it's called. For reference, Minnesota's ABA spending increased by about 51,000% since 2018. We all know what happened there. President Trump spoke on that yesterday. You saw that with millions of dollars just being stolen. Everybody had autism. Everybody had autism, they said. It was incredible, actually. And I really, I mean, I've just seen so much, see what they're doing.

You haven't seen anything yet. You know, it's not necessarily malice everywhere. That hasn't been proven yet. ABA therapy is considered a critical resource for children diagnosed with autism, but given its complicated billing structure, incentive to overbill, an influx of private equity-backed providers into that space, it's really being looked at like a gold rush. Audits so far by HHS's Office of Inspector General has uncovered $198 million in improper payments made in just 4 states, $410 million incorrectly billed. And examining this really depends on each state's ability to organize and analyze its own spending. That's why HHS is now deploying AI tools to double-check that oversight and try to root out any possible fraud.

Okay.

Well, there's a number of problems with this.

This.

Okay. Number one, you know, look, Trump was tweeting in 2012, 2013 about vaccines causing autism. Okay. And then he comes out and with the Warp Speed bullshit. Okay. And gets behind that shit. Now, what better way to create a system of fraud than to literally poison the American people? Because we all know that the medical system is one of the biggest frauds in the world. That's why when you get a fucking Advil, it's $800 motherfucking dollars in the hospital. Okay. So everybody's taking a cut again. Everybody's— and they say, oh, well, you know, my insurance covers it. Yeah. How much do you pay in insurance versus how much do you use?

Right. How does that work?

And what would your insurance really need to be if everything costs what it should cost? Right.

Mm-hmm.

But people, again, just accept things for the way that they are. And then when it comes to diagnosis of autism, all right, like Trump said, he's right about this. Everybody has it, right? Everybody. Well, I mean, it kind of does seem like everybody has it right now.

That's right.

Let's be real. Go over the past fucking 5, 6 years. I mean, I—

there's a little touch.

Yeah, possibly be convinced of that. But the reality is, is, you know, you have kids that are in the education system who are not being taught basic skills and then being diagnosed with some sort of learning disability or autism. Like, well, no shit, they don't fucking know anything. They're being taught— they're being told about transgenderism as opposed to being taught how to do math or how to read or how to write or how to function as a normal human. So when you combine all of these elements together, it creates a fucking honeypot for them to defraud everybody out of their money. All right. And not only does it do that, it handicaps the citizens so that in 20 years, like we're seeing now, you have a group of people that are inept at actually functioning as contributing human beings to society, which means that they become socialists and communists by default. Because they cannot survive any other way because they lack the skills. So when you could see all of these puzzle pieces go together, it all makes perfect sense. All right. And we have corruption and evil happening in all of these places, in the pharma industry, in the government, in the medical systems, in the education systems.

This is where everything is. It's a big machine that is designed to keep people impoverished to keep people stupid and to eventually create a system that they cannot escape because they are too fucking reliant on the system to survive. So what do you think they're doing? This is what's going on. You don't have people even— like, when was the last time you heard any government official say what I just said?

No, no, because I've never fucking heard it.

Okay, but it's very obvious if you actually like just rise above and look down at what's going on. And emotionally, yeah, yeah, it's a giant machine. It's a giant machine that steals our money, makes us sick, makes us stupid, convinces us that we can't be anything, and then fleeces us for every fucking dollar along the way to try to solve these problems that wouldn't even exist if they didn't exist.

I do. And that's— I think that's, you know, the most frustrating part about this shit too, bro, is that they use the fucking— like, they pull on the heartstrings, right? Because they want to create these programs. Oh, we're helping kids with autism. Pull on the heartstrings because we're good Americans, dude.

Dude, listen, women usually make the decisions. Women make emotional decisions more than they do logical. Men make more logical decisions. So they, they, they tell these crazy stories and these heartfelt heartstring stories to stir up the emotions of women. And then the women force the men to fall in line.

Yeah.

And that's, that's what's been going on for years and years and years. And yes, there's a lot of dumb, simpy men who fall for the shit too.

That's right.

Because they just want— they want to get laid so bad that they're willing to just—

yeah, whatever. Right.

Yeah. So like, dude, it's, it's, it's, it's a brilliant psychological operation.

100%.

But yeah, man, people make decisions based on their emotions, not on logic. That's a human thing.

Yeah.

Even, even like, I don't even know if it's fair to say that it's just women. It's a lot of men too.

Yeah.

You know, I mean, that's why you feel— they make you feel like you're so privileged, like you're— this dude is out working his fucking balls off. Okay. And he's got 3 kids and he's trying to survive and he's working hard. He's getting half his money taxed out. He's in debt up to his eyeballs. And then these people come and tell that guy how privileged he is, and they make him feel like, oh, well, I should feel okay about contributing, and this is patriotic. And then they take that money and then use it to make his situation worse.

Yep, yep. Just like up in Minnesota with Ilhan Omar, right? Creates the, you know, Feeding Our Kids, right? Oh, okay, cool, we're feeding kids. Yeah, hell yeah, I'm cool. You start that program, that initiative, some of my tax dollars going there, right? Yeah, but no, it's going back to fucking Somalia.

That's right.

Going to her pocket. You know what I'm saying? Vote for me again though. I look at the program.

Oh, and by the way, the reason it didn't happen the first time is because the Republicans got in the way.

That's right.

Or, and then when the Republicans do it, the reason it didn't happen this time is because the Democrats fucked it up while they're all going to lunch together and playing golf together and being all friendly behind our backs with our tax dollars. Yes.

Yep. No, dude, I'm over it, bro. I'm fucking over—

Bro, listen, the only way to fix this shit is grassroots. There's two ways to fix it. We can have a violent revolution and just fucking 10 million people show up and take over. Okay. Which will work if enough people do it. Or you have to start being smart about who you vote for, which, dude, I'm not even convinced that that matters because like, dude, just like this Massey thing where they dumped in 10,000 votes, you know, and like, dude, I'm not even convinced at this point that the voting system is even a real thing. Right? I just— I'm just— that's where I'm at. No, but let's say it is. Let's assume it is. Okay, the only way for it to actually happen and work is that you have to vote for people that aren't taking money from other people. You have to vote for people who are like— and, and, you know, nobody wants to do that because those candidates aren't taken seriously because they don't have 400 fucking television commercials, right? And people are, you know, they're hive mindset people. So like they could have a great candidate who's not running commercials and they think it's bad because he's not running commercials.

I never— I've never heard of this guy on TV when those are the motherfuckers that should be running the country.

100%, dude. Dude. And to this other point too, just on the charity thing too, like, and I've learned this from you, you've always been a big proponent of it. You'll do it yourself.

That's right.

And I think, I think that's, that's something like, like I'd be fine with that. Like, I feel like there's enough good Americans.

There is.

And there's enough problems out there for sure.

Listen, most of the great charitable action that happens happens directly from entrepreneurs to the cause.

100%.

It doesn't happen through a fucking charity. No.

Where's the government now?

Are there good charities?

Sure.

Of course. Sure. Okay. Will Bates runs a good charity. Okay.

Will Be Inspired. Yeah.

He takes the money and he does good shit with it. But most charities aren't even designed up to do good shit. They're designed to provide income in a tax-free way to their friends and family, which finds their way back to the organizer anyway.

Yep.

So like, dude, you want to fix charity? Stop allowing them to take any fucking dollars except for the— like, they cannot— they cannot take any dollars for administration.

No distribution.

Nothing. Everything is donated all the time, all the energy, all the— but, but Andy, then they won't be able to run it. No shit. That's the point. That's the point. It should be done with pure intentions. The biggest, the biggest things that happen happen directly out of people who are successful pockets to the street. Yeah, they're— it's not an organization.

It's also the quickest fix too. Yeah, quickest, you know what I'm saying? Quickest way to put the help in, man. Yeah, yeah, guys, jump in on this conversation. Let us know what you guys think down in the comments. Uh, that being said, we got one more headline for you guys. Headline 3, Andy, uh You're a car guy.

I've heard.

Yeah. So I mean, so you've been told, right? Yeah. You know, you— and I mean, you've owned a bunch of different brands. Yeah. You're a big Ferrari guy.

Oh, fuck. We really going to go there?

Dude, we got to talk about it, bro.

All right.

What are your boys doing over there now? Ferrari CEO defends new— is it Luce? Is that how you say it? Luce EV?

I don't fucking know.

Saying customer interest is strong.

Yeah.

Yeah. Let's dive into it. Ferrari is receiving strong interest for its new electric model, the Luce, from new and existing customers. CEO Benedetto Vigna— vagina— said on Thursday as he defended the automaker's new model amid a stream of criticism. A stream? More like Niagara Falls. Open faucets of criticism. Ferrari unveiled the $550,000— shit, $638,000 vehicle USD on Monday in Rome, triggering a flurry of criticism on social media over the model's unconventional design for a Ferrari and the company's decision to deviate from its legacy petrol-powered engines. Someone on social media said the car looked nothing like a Ferrari. Quote, "There is strong interest, including from new clients," Vigna said during an automotive event in Modena, uh, Modena, northern Italy. Italy, sorry guys, I'm fucking up here. Uh, the automaker showed— shit, man, sorry. The automaker showed the new model to 1,600 customers on Monday and Tuesday at the launch in Rome. And order books opened on Wednesday. Quote, we've already received bank transfers. Clients who were there wanted, the CEO said, adding Ferrari would provide precise figures about orders in July when releasing its second quarter results. So, um, this has been drawing a lot.

No, no, you missed a more, more, uh, Ferrari shares plunge. Ferrari shares plunged more than 8% on Tuesday as investors and critics reacted coolly— not— it wasn't coolly, it was fucking brutal. Savagely would be a more appropriate word.

Yeah.

To the new electric car. The shares closed flat on Wednesday, but were up 1.4% by Thursday.

Hmm.

Okay.

So still down quite a bit.

Okay, well, keep going. Yeah.

So, you know, and the online criticism has been insane. They— I have the video.

Have you—

did you watch the release video? Guys, let's check out the release video. Check this out. Darling, this car doesn't run on electricity, it runs on homosexual energy. And I thought Teslas look bad. All right, bro, it's gotten so bad. Ah, well, Lamborghini and Porsche jumped in on the shit on Ferrari's page, dude. Uh, Lamborghini commented, LOL, thanks. Porsche, the Panamera, uh, the Panamera, not so bad now, huh? Ferrari, now they tried to like, you know, make, make joke of it, right? But it has Apple CarPlay. You said frame it, history.

Got Dave Ramsey on there. This is not a good investment. That's fucking funny as shit, dude.

Bro, Porsche said—

Dude, Ramsey's a pretty funny dude, man.

Yeah, he is. Yeah. Yeah, Porsche said, uh, and we thought we sucked.

Oh, come on, man.

Dude, man, what the fuck is this, bro?

Yeah, this is what happens when you, uh, corporatize your business. Bro, okay, this is what happens when people who have never built the actual company, who aren't actual enthusiasts for the brand, decide that X's and O's matter than actually staying true to the brand. And yeah, I'm sure there are a lot of people, uh, who are signing for it because the reality is the way this company works— which, by the way, I am a top customer of Ferrari. There is a ranking system. Okay, there are regular customers, there are VIP customers, there are top customers. Top customers are the people who have owned enough Ferraris to keep— to build their profile to a place where they are offered the special editions, which I'm sure I will never be offered one again. And I don't really give a fuck, to be honest, because the truth of the matter is, is that I got into this company because I love the things that they did. I believed in everything that Ferrari has stood for forever. The racing heritage, yeah, the big V12s, the sound, the visceral experience, the excitement, the designs. All of these things are what create the brand equity of Ferrari.

That's what makes it aspirational.

Yeah.

And when they get corporate people involved that decide that, you know, because now it's a public company, now the balance sheet matters more than the fucking designs matter. And then you have the social pressures of, you know, you know, global initiatives and things like that that they are trying to appease or, you know, custom people who aren't even fucking customers they're trying to appease is what it feels like. Listen, dude, Here's the number one rule of brand. You can't be everything to everyone.

No.

Okay. That car is an abomination and an embarrassment for Ferrari. It's an embarrassment for all of the owners of Ferrari. It's an embarrassment for all the enthusiasts of Ferrari. And the reason that anybody has ordered it in the first place is because they're trying to work their way up the fucking ranks so that maybe they can get the other shit. But the problem is, is that they don't seem to be making the other shit cool anymore either. Everything's going towards this bullshit. So, you know, it's whatever. And dude, you know, Ferrari's— look, bro, I have been treated very good by Ferrari. The people that I know at Ferrari are fucking great. The people I've met through Ferrari are fucking awesome. They are enthusiasts. They understand what Ferrari is about. But those people, even the CEO of North America, who I've talked to many times on the phone, who's a good man, great enthusiast, These guys don't control these decisions.

Yeah.

And this decision makes the customers look stupid. It makes the dealers look stupid. It makes everyone look stupid. And nobody wants to say it because they're afraid to get kicked out of the program. Okay. I don't give a fuck. All right. I'll buy the shit secondhand. I don't care. This is not how I make my fucking money. I buy cars I like. I am grateful that I can buy cool cars when they make cool cars, but I'm not buying the shit that I don't like. And if you don't like it, don't buy it. But the truth of the matter is, is like, it's such a detour from what the brand stands for that it hurts the brand equity in the consumer eyes. Okay, when, when, when you have kids out here that are looking at aspirational brands, things that are cool, things that make noise, things that make you feel a certain way, you ask any 20-year-old kid what that is for them, they're going to say it's fucking Lamborghini right now because of what they did with the SVJ and the Revuelto. All right. They're not going to say Ferrari. And this, this damage sucks because Ferrari's a fucking sick— hold on, dude.

Listen, the way they were making cars, they're the best fucking cars in the world. And I know for a fact because I've owned everything, I've owned them all. Okay. But when you make a piece of shit like this, Okay. And then you try to tell people it's worth $660,000. Oh, bro, it's insulting. Okay. And here's the real cost to this decision. The real cost isn't their stock went down. The real cost isn't, oh, some people are mad. The real cost is, is that what does it do to Ferrari's legacy? What does it do to their brand equity in people's eyes? What does it do to the future customers and what they aspire to drive? That is the decision that can't be understood by people who weren't there while the brand was being built. And this is what happens to almost every company when they sell out to corporate interests. It becomes about the bottom line as opposed to what the brand actually stands for integrity-wise. The people who developed this car should be fucking fired.

Yeah.

Okay. And if I were running Ferrari, right now, I would come out and I would apologize, and I would say, we fucked up, we're canceling it, it is what it is, everybody involved is fired, and we are going back to the most hardcore, radical, naturally aspirated, badass, non-hybrid shit that you could ever possibly imagine. And I'd start producing things that are for true auto enthusiasts again. Things with manual transmissions, things with naturally aspirated V8s and V12s, things that look fucking awesome, things that aren't dumbed down to try and appease everybody. The meetings go like this: here's the cool design, and then there's 20 people. This is why you can't run things by committee, okay? You got 20 people in the room, and, well, I don't like the edges on that, or I don't like the way that looks, or I don't like the way this is. And then everybody gets their little say, and you end up with a piece of soap that runs on electric. Yeah, that looks like— that looks like a fucking bar of Irish Spring. Okay, that looks worse than a fucking Tesla. And that's fucking saying something.

That's saying a lot.

Yes. Like, dude, and you know what? I'm going to probably be fucking punished for this, like, but I don't give a fuck. I'm not for fucking sale, bro. I'm just not. And if they never want to sell me a fucking car again, then so be it. But at the end of the day, I'm not buying the shit anyway. That's right.

That's right.

Yeah, I know it was designed by the same guy designed an iPhone. Okay, how does that fucking make sense?

No, that makes perfect sense.

Yeah, let me, let me fucking hire a guy who made a fucking phone to design a motherfucking car.

That's great.

Get the fuck out of here, dude. Okay, now if they're smart, they'll pivot. They'll use it as a position and pivot. And I actually have heard that that's their plan. All right. But I don't know about that for a fact. That's— there's a lot of rumors going around. Sure. I've also heard that they're going to come out with a, you know, the new A12, the 12, whatever the fuck, Sedice or whatever the fuck it's called, with a manual and shit. Bro, you should never quit making manuals in the first place. Okay? Real enthusiasts, they want naturally aspirated shit. They want shit that screams. They want shit that when you drive it, it gives you a fucking hard-on, dude. Yeah, they want shit that you can downshift and like, learn how to drive properly. Like, dude, there's not a better car in the world to drive than my fucking F40. It is the most exciting, badass, awesome car, and it's 35 years old. It kicks the fuck out of everything. Okay? It's not that hard to make shit that people love, but when you allow everybody to come in and make it about numbers, this is what you end up with.

Yeah.

And they can sit there and say, oh, well, everybody wants it. No, the fuck they don't.

Who?

You're— dude, listen, if you are getting orders, it's orders from people that are trying to work their way up the profile. That's it.

That's right.

Okay. And sorry about it, but I make enough money where I could buy the shit on the market anyway.

Yeah.

So I don't really give a shit. And I appreciate, like, my dealer that I deal with, fucking awesome. The regional managers, awesome. The North American CEOs, Awesome. I don't know the dudes over there, but I'm going to tell you this, you know, being inside of that ecosystem up until now has been nothing but amazing. It's been amazing. And people shit on it because they're not in it.

That's right.

But when you do shit like this, that like, dude, honestly, this is embarrassing. It's embarrassing. Like, what about all the guys who have, who have spent tens of millions of dollars collecting these cars? And now you get like, now, like, dude, you know, many people are in my DMs be like, oh, I bet you ordered one of these. You know, I'm saying, like, that's, that's what they don't get. Like, they're— it's embarrassing, bro. And this is why you can't let corporate dumb fucks make your decisions for you. You've got to stay true to what the brand's about. And my hope, because I do love the brand, I love the fucking brand. My hope is that they'll be smart and pivot and start making cool shit again. But if they continue to run like this, I mean, I really don't give a shit if they never want to sell me a car again because I'm not going to buy them anyway.

Everything that you're saying is 100% correct because I was checking the socials for everywhere Ferrari has posted this, the two designers who have posted this. Every single comment, I mean, every single comment is criticizing them. Yeah, but the one that really stuck out, and it's totally in line with what you're saying, is this guy commenting, the only question you should have asked yourself is would a kid hang this car as a poster on their bedroom wall?

That's it.

Fuck, dude, that's it.

Okay, so they don't understand the brand damage that they just did by doing this. And if they really care about protecting the brand, the brand that fucking Enzo Ferrari wanted, they would say— they would come out today and be like, you know what, we're canceling this. It's fucking in the trash. We're scrapping it. We're not making a single one. We're sorry. And this is what we're going to do from now on. But they won't do that. They won't do it because it's too much money. You see what I'm saying? Do they have one of the most valuable brands on the fucking planet, bro? And with that comes a little bit of ego. Okay. And that's okay. When you're making cool-ass shit, you're making badass shit. Have an ego, you know? Oh, You don't want to buy this? Well, then you can't buy these cars. You could do that when you're making badass shit. You can't fucking do that when you're making shit like that. No, bro, can't do it. And dude, it's, it's weird that some fucking redneck from Missouri can know this, but they don't.

Well, the crazy thing is, too, man, like, to that point, it's like, dude, like, you can have an ego and tell people to fuck off when you—

okay, look, when you've done this, show you something, dude. Jesse James, one of my good friends.

Yeah.

All right, Jesse builds whatever the fuck he wants. All right, like if you want to build something special and he don't like it, he won't fucking build it. You know why? Because he fucking understands what his brand's about. He gets it. Okay, you could have a little— you could tell your customers no and fuck off and shit, and you could ban people and shit when you're making badass shit. But when you're not— when the market's been— the market is the market.

Yeah. Okay, you can't tell people no with this. No, you'll be begging people.

And the problem is, is that like, dude, okay, back in the day when Enzo was running it, he would tell people to fuck off, okay? He would say, no, we're fucking doing this my way. And that's what made it fucking great. But that attitude has carried at the top, top, top level into this, this situation where these guys certainly, it appears they believe that they can just make fucking anything they want and people will bend over for it. And that's just not the case, bro.

Yeah.

My point was like, dude, you know, and by the way, all the fucking car reviewers that, you know, they're making these positive reviews, you should see that as an indication that they're for sale, bro. They're not telling you the truth of what they really think. Okay. Because there's not a single motherfucker on this planet that's a true car enthusiast that fucking likes that car. No, I don't give a fuck who you— and I've lost a lot of respect for some of these guys that I follow on YouTube because like they're sucking the dick, kissing the ring. Like, bro, you know, and then you have, you have these other guys who their whole identity is a Ferrari collector, right? They won't say a motherfucking thing about it. They won't say shit because they're afraid of them.

So, you know, and you would know more on this, right?

But I love, I love being an ambassador of the brand. Yeah. When they're making great shit. And I'm just not the kind of person that's going to fucking say something's cool or keep my mouth shut about it. I mean, the first thing I did was call the fucking dealer.

Did you really?

Yeah.

What the fuck?

Well, I called my guy who deals with me.

Yeah.

And it fucking pissed me off, dude.

I look at it like the same shit they did with the F80, bro.

Like, I know the F80 is like this fucking amazing performance machine, but that car needed a V12, bro. That's a halo car. Okay. A twin-turbo V6 for $5 million fucking dollars. And by the way, I have one on fucking order. Okay. But when I saw it, I was like, and then I was sold on the performance and I think it looks pretty badass.

But with the spec you did. Yeah.

Yeah. You know, I think they look good. If when I first saw them, I didn't— I wasn't a fan of how they looked. But like, I also didn't like the LaFerrari when I first saw it. And now I think the LaFerrari is one of the best looking cars I've ever seen.

100%.

And I love that car. That's fucking one of the best cars ever. But yeah, dude, I mean, this ain't it, and that's that. And it takes humility to admit that when you make a mistake. And, you know, I could promise you, I could promise you, I could promise you, if Enzo Ferrari were alive, this would have never fucking happened.

No.

In fact, in fact, if it had been proposed in a meeting, he would have cut their fucking heads off in the meeting and fired him immediately. Okay, this is what happens with second, third, fourth removal of the founders of brands. They— we just talked about this on Q&A. They compromise and compromise and compromise and compromise and try to get everybody. And then in trying to get everybody, they ruin their brand equity to the point where nobody wants it.

Yeah.

Okay. Like, you know, and to Lamborghini's defense, Lamborghini has upped their game. Okay. Like, I left Lamborghini as a customer of the brand 8 years ago. Since then, I, I talked to the fucking CEO. I told them what I thought they were doing wrong. They didn't want to hear it, but they must have heard it because they did make those changes and things have started to go the right way. And they make some cool shit. The shit still sounds good, it still feels good, it's still exciting to drive, it looks fucking awesome. Like I don't know, man. It's highly disappointing, dude. And I, I see it as an opportunity for them to pivot. And if they pivot correctly, this could be the greatest comeback of a car company ever. But, but who knows, man? Who knows what's going to happen? I can tell you this, man, it's highly disappointing for someone who has, who has loved that brand, bro.

I think I was gonna say it was like, I don't expect a brand to like hit 100% on every fucking swing, you know what I'm saying? Because like Ferrari has—

yeah, but like, why the fuck are you making SUVs? And why are you like, bro, make fucking race cars.

That's what I'm saying, dude.

That's what the fuck Ferrari's about, dude. The reason F1 even exists is because of Ferrari, dude. It was a race car company. They built race cars and then they made them for the road. Do that.

Yeah, do that. Yeah, do that.

Be the best at that. Return to the roots. This is— this should be a wake-up call. And when you have a CEO that's like on it, like on in the press saying, oh, everybody loves it, you're all wrong and I'm right, that's a bad sign, bro. Like, the board should fucking make the fucking right choices here.

Yeah, it's like— it's like somebody's trying to like— like a dude trying to convince you that like sucking dick ain't that bad.

I mean, that's an interesting correlation, but I'm just saying, like, I promise, no, it's awesome. A real leader, a real leader will come out and say, you know what, we heard you, you're right, this is what we're gonna do from here on out, just fucking wait and see. This is gonna be the greatest comeback story of any fucking brand ever. I'm embarrassed by this, I should have never let it fly. The other thing you got to remember is that this car was developed during the time of global climate hysteria. Okay. They can't just develop a car in one year. That's not what happens.

Yeah.

So 4 years ago when they started talking about this, remember where everybody was and then it changed and, you know, they had to come out with this shit because they had already put all the money behind it. It's just a terrible— it's a terrible situation.

Terrible move.

It's terrible. And like, real talk, you know, people will say, oh well, they could have made it better looking. No, dude, it shouldn't exist. An electric Ferrari should not exist, and a Ferrari SUV should not exist. It should be exotic performance cars that make crazy noise, that give you excitement when you drive them, that when you step on the throttle, you realize why you've worked your whole fucking life to pay for this motherfucker. That's what a Ferrari is about. It's not about hauling 4 people. It's not about getting good gas mileage. It's about the most amount of fuck you and awesome that you could possibly pack into 4 fucking wheels. And if they don't get back to that, their brand's going to suffer. That's it. Nobody's infallible. Not even Ferrari. No, nobody. Big, big brands, big civilizations. Have fucking fallen. And the reason they fall is because they get away from the value system that built them. And that's what we're dealing with here. So my hope is, because I love the brand, that they use it as an opportunity to pivot. That is yet to be determined.

We shall see, man. Guys, you jump in on this conversation. You let us know down in the comments.

I think Zeeshan, your fucking comment that you read is pretty much the only thing that should matter for Ferrari.

Yeah.

Will someone out there hang this on their wall as the dream? Okay, because I'm gonna tell you something, dude. I'm not just a car guy. I am a car fanatic. All right, I had a poster— I had 3 posters on my wall when I was a kid. One was a white Lamborghini Countach. I never got it because I can't fit in the car. But I've had a number of white Lamborghinis. Yes, I've had a ton of Aventadors, um, a few Gallardos, uh, a few Huracans. But the point is, I had another one, and the other one was a Porsche 959, which I've never owned, which I will own. And the third one was an F40. I have a lot of really cool shit. I don't have anything that relates even close to when I bring that F40 out and people see it. It brings nostalgia. There are, there are, there are thousands, thousands of multi-millionaire, multi-billion dollar companies that have been created because of the aspirations of what Ferrari stood for when I was a young man. Okay. Dreams have been achieved. This is bigger than a fucking bottom line, bro. Okay. People's lives have completely changed because of the aspiration for an automobile, for what they stand for.

And you just shit all over that. All right. So it's bigger than a fucking balance sheet. And it's frustrating, dude.

Yeah.

Like, because for somebody like me, I wouldn't be in the position I'm at if I hadn't had that love for cars. All right. Because in the very beginning, that's what drove me. I wanted to be someone who could experience and own and drive these cars. Now it's different. My purpose has changed as I've matured and I get fulfillment out of that.

That was the gateway.

That was the gateway. That's what got you there. That's what started it.

Yes.

and it started it for thousands, probably hundreds of thousands of people, honestly. And that's not taking— they're not taking any of that into consideration.

Not many people think like that deeply. Think of how many touchpoints you have had with your success for not just people around here in this building, but then they take that sense of achievement and drive to their families. And some of— a lot of people have changed their family tree forever because of that one desire.

Yes. Yes. That is real shit, dude. And like, it's, you know, I'm not mad because like, because they're not like— it's, it's, it's sad. It's sad. It's like, what are you guys doing? You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, man, I don't know, dude. It's, it's, you know, I don't know. It's to me, it's sad. That's where it comes from. It's like, yeah, it's funny. And yeah, you know, it's, you know, there's some funny comments and shit, but like, you know, none of the real collectors are telling the truth. They're not. They're all fucking sucked in. Okay. And dude, like, look, Ferrari has an amazing culture, dude. Like, their, their, their culture of like the owners and everything is fucking awesome. But nobody wants to say anything because they're afraid they're going to get kicked out of the fucking program. I'm sure your sales are good, but yeah, dude, when someone holds a gun to your head and says you fucking do this or else, so people are going to fucking buy it, but their market cap is down $5 billion. Well, yeah, because there's people there, there's people that will never buy a Ferrari ever again because of that. I'm just saying, man. And like, dude, the market is the market. You can't get— you, you can't think you're unfallible. Can't think it. So it, you know, yeah, man, that's where I'm at. That's the truth, like it or not.

That's how I feel about it. And whatever happens, happens. But I'm probably the only fucking top customer in the fucking planet that's actually telling the truth about it. And, um, it is what it is, man. Make some cool shit and I'll be the first guy to be like, yeah, that's the fucking shit right there. You know, dude, you need to have some real motherfuckers on your fucking board. You know, people that fucking understand what it's like to work their fucking balls off their whole life, not come from, you know, 3 generations of family wealth just to buy your shit. I worked my whole fucking life to be able to afford the fucking shit that I do get to enjoy now. And to me, that's— this is fucking sad. It's like, it's like, see, it's like finding out your hero is like, he's like, yeah, right. Like, it's just sad, dude.

I mean, my dad—

and there's a lesson to be learned there for you guys. Like, you have to know who the fuck you are and you have to know who you aren't and you have to stick to who you are. And if you try to be everything to everyone, you're nobody to anybody. And that's the lesson, man.

Yeah.

And corporate people can't understand that because they went to school and they went to college and they got a degree and, you know, they didn't fucking build anything. They haven't built anything. Okay? The fucking old men that built this company, they are pissed off right now. I guarantee you that. I guarantee you, dude, if we call fucking Reezy right now.

Oh, bro.

And said, hey, man, Reezy would be pissed. I guarantee. He's probably public. Those are his friends. He's probably not saying anything publicly. He's not even on the public outlets or anything. But this is a man who was one of Enzo's best friends, right hand, okay?

Yeah.

Who sat with DJ and I and talked to us for 3 hours about Ferrari's heritage and what the cars meant and the stories and the impact that it had on his life. There's true passion in this man's being for this brand. And those men— and by the way, he owned one of the most successful Ferrari dealerships and still owns one of the most successful Ferrari race teams, Risi Comp, in history. And I promise you, if you sat him down and asked him about this, he's going to be like, I don't know what— this is disgusting.

This ain't it, right? Yeah, man.

So it— dude, it's just like it— yeah, it is what it is, man. I hope they pivot and I hope they figured it out. They need to start making any naturally aspirated cars, V8s, no turbos, uh, fucking V12s, no turbos, manual transmissions, shit that looks fucking crazy, and get back to your fucking roots, bro. And it'll fix this problem immediately. Now I'll probably never be able to buy one again, but I don't really care, man. Yeah, I don't really care if they're gonna make shit like that. I don't wanna buy it anyway.

And it's so crazy, you got people, you know, putting pink wraps on their Ferraris, getting banned out, but they come out with this shit. Yeah. So what the fuck? Yeah. So I can't be gay, but we could be gay. All right.

Yeah, right.

Makes sense.

It's, it's whatever.

Yeah, it is what it is. Yeah, man. Guys, jumping on this convo though, let us know down in the comments your thoughts on the Ferrari Luce. With that being said, it is time for our final fucking joke, dude.

Like, I literally kept thinking they're going to come out the next day and it's going to be a joke.

Hmm.

Like, if they really wanted to pivot, that's what they do. They'd be like, haha, we got you. And then like secretly throw all the shit away.

That's right. That's right, dude. I think I did comment on there. I might have got you in trouble. I was like, I just tagged you. I was like, I thought April Fool's Day has passed already.

I thought it was a fucking joke. I don't care, bro. I don't care. It's not like I don't like the dealer. It's not like I don't like the people. It's not like I don't like the guys that run North America. You're letting people who are not car enthusiasts make decisions about a car enthusiast company that has led the fucking culture of sports cars and exotic cars for the history of the fucking planet.

Yeah.

Well, it's hard to go. You should be hiring motherfuckers that design like fighter jets.

Yeah, no shit.

And I'm sure they're really proud and they're fucking, you know, $50 million tech houses and, you know, like, the fuck out of here, man. Build some shit people love and market will handle itself.

Well guys, it is time for our final segment of the show. As always, guys, we have Thumbs Up or Dumb as Fuck. So we bring a headline in, we talk about—

I thought we just had that.

Yeah, no, it could have been. This one is, uh, this one's crazier. Um, bring a headline, we talk about it, vote on it, give it one of these two options. Andy, you like dogs? Dogs. You love dogs.

Yeah, dogs are the best thing of—

in life, 100%.

Yeah.

Um, I like dogs.

Yeah.

Um, this dog, uh, this dog accidentally fires a shotgun, striking a woman. Yeah, a shotgun pellet struck the woman's arm as it rested out of her car window at a nearby—

must have been a pit bull. I know it's a shotgun.

It's one of your dogs. Oh, okay. It was a white lab. It was a white lab. Yeah, dog reportedly triggered a shotgun inside of a truck during a stop at a Nebraska gas station Saturday, sending a blast to the vehicle and injuring a woman in another vehicle several yards away, according to local reports citing Nebraska authorities. The incident unfolded shortly after noon when the vehicle pulled into Short Stop, a gas station at a convenience store located at Uh, 2002 Avenue. Um, according to the Scotts Bluff Police Department, the dog remained inside the vehicle after the owner stepped into the store. Now, the passenger riding along also stepped outside but stayed near the front passenger side door. During that time, the dog reportedly moved around in the rear seat and came into contact with the shotgun stored in the vehicle. Firearm appeared to have a live round in the chamber and was discharged after being triggered. The authorities indicated. The blast reportedly passed through the vehicle's, uh, front passenger side door, traveled out of the parking lot, and struck a woman who was stopped at a nearby traffic light several yards away. Police said a shotgun pellet struck the upper portion of her right arm, which was resting out the window at the time.

Her injuries were considered non-life-threatening, um, and a family member transported her to Regional West Medical Center. Now, they interviewed the dog This is what he had to say.

Tell me about some shit you ain't never seen, bitch ass. You can miss me with the hoe ass shenanigans like this. Well, we know he did it.

Yeah, he fucking did it. Yeah, he did it. Yeah, he did it. Yeah, dude.

Oh, is that him?

I don't know if it's him. It's just—

He just wanted a biscuit, bro.

Yeah, bro, I think that's what happened. Yeah, like happy, dude. What's the worst thing Otis and Charlie have ever done?

Oh man, I don't know. It's hard to get mad at them, bro. Yeah, that's true, because like they just look at you like they, they know how to work it, dude.

Yeah. Who, who's the— was Ellie a ruckus?

Oh yeah, when she was younger.

Yeah. Okay.

Yeah, Otis was too.

I'm gonna say, well, Otis bit you though, didn't he?

He bit Emily.

He bit Emily. Okay, gotcha.

But, but For— I can't say no to Charlie.

That's right.

Like, at all. Like, it doesn't matter.

I don't think anybody could.

Yeah, it's— it doesn't matter what she wants, she gets it. She's 13, dude. She gets whatever the fuck she wants.

Yeah, she's earned it.

Yeah. Otis— Otis will look— will look outside, and if it's raining, he'll look at you, and then he'll just straight up fucking shit in the house. Like, he's like, I'm not shitting outside. It's fucking raining. Like, and then he knows he's not going to get in trouble.

Yeah.

So he just kind of like looks at you funny and then like, like gives you like a cute look.

Go clean that shit up, dog.

Yeah. What'd you do? And that's what happens. They— the dogs run the fucking house.

That's right. That's right.

Like, I'm pretty sure that in their minds we are their pets.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like, you go out to work so you can earn money to feed them. Yeah.

I don't know if they understand that.

That.

I don't think they know where we go during the day.

Yeah.

But I know for sure that when we get home, they think that we are their butlers.

That's right. And servants.

And if you really think about it, you are. It's fucking true. It's kind of true.

Yeah, it's kind of true. Yeah.

So, uh, yeah, they don't— it's hard. One time, dude, when Ellie was— when Ellie was like— because Ellie was an American Bulldog, and for those of you guys that don't know what American Bulldogs are, they're not the same as English Bulldogs. English Bulldogs are like short, stocky. American Bulldogs are like a Rottweiler, but like a bulldog face. They're like big and muscular and athletic. And she was what's called a Scott-type American Bulldog. There's two types. There's Johnson and a Scott. Scott-type American Bulldog is super athletic. And Oscar was a— Oscar was a Johnson-type where he was more like— he looked more bully. But They're super fucking athletes, dude, and super strong and super fast. Yeah, that's what Ellie was. That actually looks a lot like it does.

That's what made me click on it.

So they're, they're like, she could jump over my head, like literally over my head, like from a seated position, jump over my head. All right. One time, because she, when she was young, dude, like she was a fucking handful. One time I was sweeping with the— like, dude, if you had a broom, you weren't getting the broom back. Like, she's going to get it and you're not getting it back. And it didn't matter. Like, she would never let go of it. Man, that looks a lot like her there over there on the right. She took my broom. I was doing a push broom and she grabbed the broom and then pulled the broom back towards me and it pinned against my ankle. Rolled my fucking ankle, sprained my ankle. That sucked.

Yeah.

But I mean, dude, she was like— I, I could tell you this, dude. If one of those dogs got on someone, like if Ellie would have got on someone, you couldn't get her off. You'd have to kill her. Like, it's— there's nothing you could do. Yeah, there's nothing you could do. And, you know, that's why those bigger working breed dogs, you got to understand how to fucking handle them. You know, a lot of people give pit bulls a lot of shit, but like, you don't understand what a pit bull is. A pit bull is a cross between an original bulldog, which they now call American Bulldog, which was meant for bull baiting, and what's called a white terrier. Okay. And a white terrier was bred to hunt rodents in like, like a, like a, like squirrels and small game and things like that. So when you take a big powerful dog and you breed it with that instinct, they have what's called high prey drive. All right. Which means things that are smaller than them, they have this thing where they want to like get it. And when you don't understand what those dogs are about and you don't train them properly and, and most importantly, you don't exercise them actively, they become nuisances.

And that's, that's why we have these problems that people have pit bulls. They think they're cute. They think they're— and they are. And by the way, They're some of the best dogs ever if you know how to handle them.

That's right.

But, you know, these big dogs, they're not made for people's apartments, man. No. You know, that's why you hear these stories of like Corsos and fucking pit bulls and, you know, oh, they got out and they mauled some people. Dude, you're like keeping it in. It's meant to be worked. It's like you've got to give it a mission. You've got to— at the very least, you've got to exercise it. You got to get it out. You got to socialize it. And like all these things matter. And, you know, people don't understand those things and bad things happen when you have bad owners. And I, you know, I've personally never— I've never seen a responsible dog owner have a situation like that with their dog unless it was a extraordinary circumstance where, like, the dog was injured and they laid on it or they did something and the dog freaked the fuck out.

Yeah, yeah.

But like, dude, really, man, like, people should have to have, like, some sort of basic training to even own dogs. Like, real talk, there should be, like, a dog owner's license.

Mm-hmm.

But yeah, whatever, man.

Yeah. Well, free— let's free Bingo here.

Yeah, free Bingo. He didn't mean it.

He's still a good boy.

Yeah, he is a good boy.

She probably deserved it. Yeah, she probably did. She did.

Dogs do have a good sense of good or bad people. Oh, you know, I just like animals, dude. Like, uh, my buddy was asking me today to go hunting, and like, like, I'm that dude that can like get along with any animal. It doesn't matter what it is. But I'm also that dude is smart enough not to like do it to bears.

That's right, that's right, that's right.

But man, yeah, I want to. Yeah, it'd be cool to have a bear friend. It would be cool. They do that shit in Russia, man.

Yeah, they do. I can see you fucking raising a bear, bro. I could see it.

Yeah, maybe. I mean, other people have done it.

Yes. I mean, what one man can do.

That's right.

What they say. So they say, yeah, well, thumbs up for Bingo, man. Free him. Yeah. You know, I'm with it, man.

The guys, Andy, 187, 187 on the motherfucker. Fucking cop. That's what he was listening to.

Yeah, man. Well, guys, that is all I got, dude.

All right, well, that's the last Ferrari I'm buying. All right, guys, uh, we will see you on Monday. Don't be a hoe, share the show.