Transcript of Daniel Nicholson: Idea. Intent. Action.-Turning Creativity Into a Business

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It's the, the idea, right? The intent, and then the action that creates things in the real world.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another exciting episode of Mic Unplugged. And today we're doing something really cool. We're in person, we're in my house, and I've got a guy. When we talk about the power of social media, it's already changing my life. He is none other than the infamous, the Bourbon Barrel Guy himself, Mr. Daniel Newsom.

Daniel, how you doing? Doing great. Appreciate you having me.

Bro, I'm the honored one. Like, I ordered this barrel and we're gonna talk a lot about this barrel. We're gonna talk a lot about bourbon. We're gonna talk a lot about you. I ordered this not expecting you, the owner of the company, to say, not only will I build this for you, but I'll come down and deliver it and put it together.

We got this like install special.

I love it too, man. Like, it meant the world to me that you would want to do that. But before we get started on this podcast and we talk about the barrel company that you have and the things that you're doing, To kind of highlight this, I, I kind of think your bottle's empty. Mine, I have to have something. I have something in my glass. Your glass is empty.

You're, you're still good.

I'm still good. So we're going in. I'm gonna show you this. We're gonna zoom in and show how cool this feature really is. So this is what got me to want this. I'm on social media. I just got hooked up with, uh, Jared Allen and the company Full Ride His Bourbon. And they had this video of the coolest home barrel that I'd ever seen. And I saw these buttons and I was like, oh, that's not real. And then I reached out to you and it was like, hey, is that like something that you can really, really get? He goes, all day long. So we're gonna share this live, man. Like, if you're into bourbon, just watch how freaking cool this is.

There's no, no AI.

No AI.

So yeah, we got the app, pushing some buttons, filling some bourbon.

I don't know if you can hear that, but that's my second favorite sound. And then look at this, a glasses pour. This is to you, my friend.

Cheers.

Cheers to you.

Appreciate you.

Absolutely. So Daniel, again, over the last 3 months, I've really gotten to know you through social media. And it's weird because Daymond John told me this and I didn't believe it at first, or I didn't pay attention to it at first, but he told me you can tell a lot about people's character and their values through social media. And I was like, okay, you're Daymond John. I get it.

Right.

But I really put that into play with you now. Like, I can see who you are. By the way you communicate, the type of posts that you do. I heard through the grapevine that, uh, you have an amazing editor of your videos and maybe there's some jealousy because you don't edit sometimes and you just post.

That's the best in the business.

The best in the business. Jeremiah Hunt. I don't know. But learning about your character, your values, the family man that you are. I wanna ask you what I ask all my guests, like, what's your because, right? Like that thing that's deeper than your why. And the reason I do that is if I were to ask you what's your why, and then you're gonna tell me your kids, your spouse or whatever, and I'm gonna say, but why? That sentence usually starts with, well, because, and I care about what you say immediately after that. Yeah. So if I were to say, Daniel, man, like all the amazing things that you do, The human being that you are, what's your because? What's your purpose? Why do you do those things, brother?

Um, I would say, I think there's, there's an underlying part to each of us that is like a natural creative.

Okay.

Um, I say a lot of, you know, bringing something like this barrel to life, it's The, the idea, right? The intent, and then the action that creates things in the real world.

Okay.

So I think that's kind of what drives me is because I want to see how far I can take taking something from in here and bringing it into the physical world.

Okay.

So it's, I think there's something, you know, not to get like religious about it, but there's something like divinely creative about being able to take something from a thought and watching yourself build it in reality. So that's, it's huge for me. I've seen it happen just from, you know, coming from the places that I came from to being where I'm at now, taking a thought and being able to watch it, you know, grow in real time. So I think that's my because.

Amazing. When did you realize that you had that gift or that skill? Right? Like for me, there's certain things that over time, it's like I can look back and say, oh, well, I guess that started developing around 13. Like now that I think about it. So one of my least favorite things that people do are like, what would you tell the 13-year-old you or the 15-year-old you?

Right.

But I like to go back to see how I thought at those ages. I, I never wanna talk to that person. Because I can just go talk to youths, right? Like, I'd rather just go inspire other people than have a conversation with myself that I can't really have.

Yeah.

But for you, like, when did you realize that that was a passion or a skill that you had?

I would say around the time I was like 15, 16.

Okay.

I was very creative doing music, doing art, just all these things that I think whether you're talking about poetry or writing a song or whatever it is, there's something that comes, it almost feels like outside of you where you're kind of intuiting stuff and being able to bring that to fruition. So I think that's where the spark happened. You know, I was in a couple of bands in high school and this is kind of similar to me. It's an art form. You know, so being able to create from a young age and now you get older and you realize that if you can focus that, that intention, you know, it, it's one of the most powerful things that I've, I've learned about.

Okay.

I like that too. So this next segment of the show I like to call the Unplugged Truths, right? And so we're gonna talk a little bit about your passion and what you do here. But also what sparked it, like we had a really, really deep conversation earlier and you talked about how woodworking became like this almost mental necessity, right? And I think a lot of times with men, like we don't truly understand the importance of mental health, right? Right. And, and the escape that's needed because we feel like there's so much on our plate, we always have to be tough. And, and it wasn't until I got to understand the power of focusing on my mental health, right, that I became freer.

Right.

Tell us about that for you and how focusing on your mental health made you, and these are my assumptions, right, but made you a better person, a better leader, a better husband, a better father. Like, how did that help you?

I just think there's a part to being like an adult male that is just, you know, you grind out and you figure it out and you do what you have to do. But whether you have kids or, you know, you're married or even if you're single, like there's a point when you realize that there's something going on up here that I can't quite put my finger on. The world doesn't necessarily give you the best guidebook to figuring that out. So being able to do woodworking, stepping away from what you do on a day-to-day, thinking about, oh, these bills or these kids or my relationship. I'm like, I need to cut this piece of wood. And then I'll be in the garage for hours. And I've had a therapist tell me there is something therapeutic about working with your hands. And it's, it's something that I can't even quantify or, you know, put it into words how helpful it is.

Yeah.

It's a, it's a release, you know, even like I said before, like taking something that's in your head, making it happen in real, real life. It's, there's, there's a blessing to it that you're like, oh, I, I can do what I set my mind

to. Yeah.

So I think that's, that's one of the biggest things. It's like, oh, if I want to make more money or I want to improve my relationship or whatever it is, it's like, that's all good and well when it's a thought, but it's like I said, the intent plus the action.

Yeah.

That's where the creation happens. So understanding that if I'm going to go build something, if I want to build a better relationship with my wife, it's not just thinking we need to connect more. It's what do we have to do in the physical? So it, it kind of goes between worlds, you know, between, oh yeah, it's just woodworking, but those same principles apply throughout our whole life, you know?

So why this? Why was this the thing? Because you told me you'd never done anything before, right? With wood.

Right.

What, what made this become the thing? And, and by the way, right now there's a link, uh, to your Instagram. Uh, so you can see a lot of the amazing products. So if you're watching, like click right here and then come back to the video. Definitely come back to the video. Um, why this road?

So I am a client relations manager for Midwest Spirits, uh, big up-and-coming spirits brand in the industry. And there were 3 barrels sitting in the warehouse that I was like, oh, I was like, oh, I could try to make a cabinet, you know? So I did it. I brought the barrel home and I know it sounds cheesy and I tell the story all the time, but go to Walmart, buy Hyper Tough Tools, spend $300, you know, just the initial investment, just trying to learn a new skill. And I did the first barrel and I was like, this is actually cool. You know, like the door was kind of weird and it didn't line up perfectly.

Right.

It was, it was a proud moment, bro. Like, oh, you know, like I made that. And we ended up selling that first barrel for $400.

Wow.

So initial investment recouped plus a little money. Uh, right after that, uh, my wife Liv, her, her grandmother who watched our kids hurt her mimp, popped her mimp out of place. So she had to go and be a stay-at-home mom again. So 4 kids, stay-at-home mom. Oh, what are we gonna do?

Right.

You know, everything's expensive. So I was like, okay, if I can turn one small barrel into some money, like how do I capitalize on that? So the wife has taken on a lot of social media responsibilities and, you know, dealing with the kids. And I've been, you know, the garage guy, just in the garage hammering these out. But It's, it, it came outta necessity.

Yeah.

Because we're like, we have bills to pay. And I've, I've always been a big person where you can sit there and complain about something or you can figure it out. And this was a figure it out thing, you know? And it's, it's been really good for us, even being on this podcast.

Right.

You know, I, I appreciate you, but it came from this. You know, it came from that necessity of me and the wife having to pay some bills.

I get it. Well, again, I'm gonna keep giving you your flowers and you your kudos, man, because it was you. Like, it, yeah, the brand was awesome, but I connect with people, right? Like everything I do is about the people, the person, the leader behind all the brands that I stand beside. And so Big kudos to you. And you see me, if you're watching, I keep just saying like, this is so beautiful. Like, I can't believe that this is like here in my little lounge. Like, it, it completes the lounge, man. Like, you're freaking amazing.

Well, I appreciate you. It does fit really well,

right? It, it's perfect.

Ties it together.

It does tie together. This next segment I call Hot Takes.

Okay.

I call Hot Takes. Oh, here's a really interesting hot take, and I'm gonna need to take a sip. My hot take is never judge a book by its cover. Um, Daniel, you scared me, brother.

That's what I'm here for.

Uh, let me take this sip first. Daniel told me that he was biracial. Never judge a book by its cover. Yeah. And I was like, nah, I don't believe you. He goes, yeah. And I said, wait, biracial, there's a lot of races. He goes, no, my dad's Black. I was like, wait a second. So I throw on some music and Daniel had rhythm.

It's a real thing.

It is a real thing. Daniel can pop lock, breakdance, spin on his head.

That's the second video that's coming out

in November. There we go, in November. Nah, so, So here's my hot take, uh, because I have biracial children, right? Like, talk about growing up as a biracial child, where you grew up, like, talk about that a little bit.

So I grew up in like the Abercrombie area. So Pro Football Hall of Fame. Um, it's a, it's an interesting little town, but, you know, growing up, my dad wasn't around. So it was, I was raised by my mom, by my grandma, but I got to see certain things that a lot of people don't understand.

Yeah.

Um, being biracial, you get a nice middle ground.

Mm-hmm.

You know, you, it, it's not as polarizing on the one side for me. So I remember growing up that, you know, my grandparents, like my mom's grandparents, when she found out that my mom was pregnant and my dad is Black, She's like, you're not allowed in the house. So that was, you know, my mom's introduction to having kids. She was 18 when my sister was born. But growing up, I would've never known that unless my mom would've told me. Like my, my great-grandparents were super loving. Yeah. Super caring. So, you know, early on I got to see that There's tensions. You know, a lot of people like to pretend like there's not tensions or, you know, that's, that's in the past. But I can remember being, I was 11 and my uncle was arguing with my mom and, you know, he's like, you N-lover, blah, blah, blah. And I'm just like, oh wow, like this is family. You know, this isn't just some random down the street. Mm-hmm. And then just my whole life, like, when, when COVID happened, a lot of the Black Lives Matter, uh, protests and, you know, get-togethers were happening. I had posted something on Facebook just giving my opinion, you know, like we just need to come together, da da da da da.

And I remember one of my buddies, Black guy from camp, he's like, Dan, I appreciate you saying what you said, but I don't think you're Black enough to talk about these types of things.

Wow.

And

wow.

Like I said, it's given me an interesting perspective. because Juneteenth was just yesterday.

Yep.

And a lot of people like to talk about things like, these aren't issues anymore. It's, it's, it's whatever. But, you know, I can tell you it's, it's just as prevalent now as I would say it's, it's ever been. It's just under the surface. And like I said, I've gotten a unique perspective because I've had girlfriends who were like, Her mom's like, oh, if she finds out I'm Pat Black and she's like, he's not allowed in my house. And if you're dating him, you're not allowed in my house either.

Yeah.

So it, it creates this weird tension, but I think it's allowed me to become who I am.

Yeah.

You know, just understanding that, you know, it's, it's not all sunshine and rainbows, but no matter what, no matter what situation you're in, like you have to push through, keep creating, keep staying positive. So.

Wholeheartedly. And that's something that me and all of my friends, like my circle, it's almost like you can't be in my circle unless you are willing to openly talk about race and society and classism and all that, because it is still very, very prevalent. Right. I would say it's not even as hidden as much as it was like in the '40s, '50s, and '60s, right? Like, I think now there's clues that are more available than they were. And I don't even just mean white-on-Black racism or Black-on-white. There's racism in general, there's fascism in general. And so I'm going to challenge everybody, if you're watching this, just have discussions, right? Because it's all about people. And what you're going to realize is that regardless of race, regardless of gender, you have more in common with human beings than you actually realize.

Right.

And so I think a lot of times we have these stigmas or we have these ways that we were raised. And so we have beliefs that we really don't want to believe in, but we do it. And then I think a lot of times it also, when you're with a certain group of friends, because they feel this way, then you're gonna feel this way. And because they like this, then you're gonna like this. And I don't even mean race, I just think in general. But I wanna challenge everybody to be who you are, right? Like, be yourself, have your own beliefs, uh, but get to know others. Get to know other genders, get to know other races, get to know other classes of people, get to know other cultures. Because if we're ever gonna take steps forward, there has to be action behind it like you were just talking.

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Yeah, I think another thing that I experienced, this was probably 12 years ago. Uh, I was living in downtown Canton, me and my buddy Max. We would walk to a local coffee shop.

Mm-hmm.

Right up the street. I remember the owner, his name was Tom. And I had dreadlocks at the time. I know you can't picture it

right now.

I know.

I need— you have pictures of it?

I'll pull up receipts from the Facebook.

So really quick, this is Daniel with dreads. This guy. Wow. Okay.

So I would go in there and we would talk to Tom, the coffee shop owner, and he's like, man, you got a lot of really good ideas.

Yeah.

I'm like, thanks. He's like, you're never gonna be taken seriously with your hair like that.

And

I was like, oh. And it's, I mean, it's a thing, you know, me as a mixed person, it's, I don't necessarily have to think about it as much, but the fact that, you know, the coffee shop owner was a white guy, he knew people at city council up the street that he was friends with. And he's like, if you want your ideas taken seriously, he's like, You got to cut your hair. So I'm like, that's just, like I said, a lot of people don't talk about it. They don't have those conversations. But that was 10 years ago. You know, it wasn't that long ago. And those are conversations that happen. And they're like, oh, this guy has some really good ideas, but he's got dreadlocks. And it's like, how do we get rid of that but? It should just be, this guy has really good ideas.

Exactly. Exactly. And again, I believe, I want to believe we're going to get there. I think we're slowly starting to get to places that we haven't been in a while or before. And so speaking of those conversations, this next segment I like to call The Room. And knowing what you do now and the history that you've had with distilleries, was there ever a room, a conversation, a moment, a dinner, a breakfast That like changed your life, right? Like, I, I can always go back to the very first room I was in with Daymond John and it completely created who I am today. Like that room,

right,

gave me the vision because I couldn't see certain things, right? Like I knew I was on a good path, but I couldn't see like step 15.

Right.

Right. Was there a room, a moment, a conversation, a lunch or dinner that changed your life?

Yeah. So I was in restaurants. I managed restaurants for like 7 years. Um, ended up at the restaurant for Midwest Spirits called Service Bar. And I'd worked there for a couple of weeks. I had a meeting with the COO of Midwest as a whole. And we sat down and he's like, hey man, how are things going?

Yeah.

And I'm like, dude, I love this company. Like, I love the mission. You know, I love the people I work with. But I was like, X, Y, and Z. These are the things that I see. These are the problem areas. Da, da, da, da, da. And he's like, dude, he's like, I just got a lot of respect for you. He's like, most people, especially new people, we have these conversations. They're like, oh, I love the job. Everything's great.

Yeah.

He's like, but you were just straightforward and honest and told me all the things that you saw. He's like, that's rare in, in these types of settings. So, I ended up building a really good relationship with the COO of Midwest Spirits, and that led to me becoming a project manager at Midwest.

Okay.

So, um, if you would look at my resume and you're just like, oh, that guy managed restaurants, you'd be like, that's not necessarily the career path, project manager to client relations manager within a large company.

Yeah.

But that, that was the conversation where I gained respect with the COO. So when, you know, I was like, I can't do restaurants anymore. I have 4 kids.

Mm-hmm.

You know, the, the hours are crazy. He was like, you know what? I'm gonna recommend you for this position within Middle West Spirits. So it, that moment showed me honesty, building those relationships opens up doors. Like you said, I don't see step 15. You know, I was at step 1 when I was in that room.

Yeah.

But inevitably that led me to this conversation that we're having right now.

So, I love it.

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So talk about where you are now. I mean, we talk about rooms and the rooms that opened up for you. Are you opening rooms and creating rooms and environments for others now? Like, have you got to that mentor stage of life?

Yeah. So there's, there's 2 kids. They're kids, but they're like—

Good drinking bourbon. Yeah. Okay.

They're like 24. Okay.

We're not talking 13-year-olds. My bad.

But they worked for me in restaurants. Okay. They followed me to probably 5 different jobs. One of them, he's a manager in one of the last restaurants I worked at. He's gone up, he just graduated college. The other one, he's, I think he's 22, but he just got like a really nice Charger. He's doing a lot better than I was doing at 22.

Okay.

And I remember I had a moment where Harley, the one kid, messaged me pictures of him at his graduation. And, you know, I've talked them through many scenarios in life and, you know, the ups and downs, but he sent me this picture and it made me tear up because he was like, hey man, none of this would've been possible without you. He's like, I appreciate you always having my back and always pushing me. And it's just those little things, those little moments where They accumulate and you don't even notice 'em.

Yeah.

At the time.

Uh-huh.

And then you get a text message, mm-hmm, where he's like, hey man, like I just graduated college. This wouldn't have been possible without you.

Amazing.

So yeah, yeah, it's, it's very gratifying. But I said a lot of times in those moments you don't even realize them.

Yeah.

Until it, it accumulates and you get that one text message. So

that's what's up.

It's, it's awesome.

That's what's up. All right, so the closing segment of the show, the Unplugged 5, is rapid-fire 5 questions, but we're gonna do something different. I'm gonna do the rapid-fire top 5 first.

Okay.

But then I think we should go back and forth on our top 5 bourbons.

Okay.

Because bourbon is what matters.

Right, right.

But your quick-fire rapid-fire, ready?

Yes.

This is just you only if

I wait on the other

bourbon. Yeah, you're gonna— because the first one You know, we, we have a live audience in here today. So this first question.

I'm ready.

Better cook, you or wifey?

Ooh, we had this conversation like 3 weeks ago. I'm gonna say me. Ooh. I'm just, because I did it as a job. You should see her glare right now. It was, I worked in kitchens for so long and I managed restaurants for 7 years.

Mm-hmm.

I'm the cash heat gun whale.

Okay.

I already feel it.

All

right. Um, but I will say me.

All right. So then question 2, what's the best dish that you cook?

Chicken wings.

Okay.

Some fried chicken wings, breaded.

No, she's saying everybody could do that. She's saying, she's saying she would call Domino's before she has your wings. That's what she's saying.

We'll go with duck with an orange sauce.

Oh. Zuck Morris. Yeah.

Yeah. She hasn't done that one yet.

Okay. All right. So then if wifey's the number 2 cook in the household, what's the best thing she cooks?

Pasta.

Oh, okay.

I mean Alfredo from scratch.

Ooh, scratch.

It's the good stuff.

Okay. Okay. It's been a long day of work. You gotta come home and you can only pour One glass of whiskey, you're perfect. What are you pouring?

Oh, I'm gonna go with— this is a shout out to one of my good friends, Archer Eland. She produces a rye whiskey and it's phenomenal.

Okay.

So it's one of my go-tos. I would definitely say if you get a chance to check out Archer Eland whiskey, it's fantastic.

I think we have a bottle over here. We do. Okay. Now I'm not a rye guy, but there's somebody in the building that loves rye, so he, he can be the— Okay.

Okay. This one might change your mind.

Everybody's tried. Everybody's tried. I just can't get down on it. All right. So last question before we start ranking our bourbons. As the story of Daniel Nefferson's being told, what's one word you wanna make sure defines your legacy?

I would say creativity.

Ooh, that's a first.

It's, uh, that's

a first.

I think it's heavily underrated. I think like we, we talked about earlier and it's, it's been one of the things that's ran through my mind the last 3 weeks, that intent plus action equals creation. So I, I really think if I'm going to make my mark on this world, leave an imprint, creativity is At the top.

I love that. I love that. Well, bro, I'm glad that you were here. I'm glad you stopped by. Uh, this is amazing, but we promised the people that we're going to start ranking some music. So I think, do we want to go from 5 to 1, or do we want to go top to 5? And, and this is going to be yours. I'm going to do mine, and I'm gonna do it Ones that people can go buy, right? Like without breaking the wallet. So I want the listeners to be able to say, okay, let me go try what, what they're saying. Now I know you've got some exclusives. If you wanna throw exclusives in there, that's all good.

I'll, uh, we can start from, we'll go 5 and 1.

All right. 5 and 1. I like it. Let's go.

I'm gonna say, yeah, I'll go, uh, number 5. I can't just do bourbon. I'm a rye guy.

You're good.

My, my number 5, I just finished this bottle at home. Jack Daniel's Rye Single Barrel.

Really? Yeah. Okay.

It's not for the faint of heart. It's like 130. Okay.

All right. So my number 5, if you're a casual, this is probably in your top 2. But it's my number 5 and you can go get it. If you like to go to restaurants, they sometimes will have it, but Double Oak Woodford would be my number 5. You can go get that almost anywhere.

I would suggest, have you ever been to Woodford Distillery? It's amazing.

Right.

So, all right. Number 4. Number 4, I'm going to lean rye again. I can't help it. I'm gonna go with Angel's Envy Rum Finish Rye.

Okay.

It's fantastic.

Okay. So my number 4, again, you can get this, a little pricey, but you can get it, is a 10-year Whistle Pig, which is a rye.

Yep.

It's a rye. So I'm gonna give you that one, but it sips more like a bourbon. So it's not that hot. And I do like it on a glass of ice or a glass of ice, but let it sit for like 5 minutes.

That one's like 51% rye.

Yeah.

That's why it's in your wheelhouse.

Right, exactly. Exactly. I'm a baby rye guy. Baby rye.

I can appreciate that.

Yeah.

I'll go with, uh, E.H. Taylor at number 3.

Okay. Got it. E.H. Taylor. So because you can get this one Uh, they connected us.

Wait,

right. Full Rye Bourbon. Full Rye Bourbon, the original, the first release.

Oh, the 122? Yeah. It's really good.

The 122 is my number 3. Really, really good. Link is in the descriptions. Uh, you gotta order it online. It gets there quick. You're gonna love it. Actually, that's what I'm sipping on right here.

All right. I'm gonna move it to 2. This is just gonna show you how simple I am in the bourbon world.

Okay.

Uh, Maker's 46 will be my number 2. It's a French oak stave finished. No, it's fantastic. It's good every time.

Number 2?

Yeah. It's like—

You would've said 22. No, if I would've shot at Maker's, Shout out to Maker's. No shot at Maker's. Love Maker's. Shout out to Maker's.

I'm not, I'm not catching the heat with you on that one.

Well, okay. They, they probably sponsor you. There's nothing on the line. I got you. No, no. But Maker's is a brand, freaking phenomenal. I will say that. And, and I, I can joke because yeah, 46, it would've been my 8. Okay. We would've did it. They would've been in my top 2.

It's consistent. I think that's a big thing with me. It's, it's the consistency. And if I'm talking like a $40 bottle,

mm-hmm,

that's gonna be good every time.

Yeah.

We're going with the 46.

You know, my challenge is I just, it takes me forever to open a bottle.

Oh man.

I need a knife.

Not me. Rip it off.

All right. So my number 2 used to be my favorite bourbon. And it's what I would say when I first started drinking bourbon, it was the only thing I drank. It was the only thing that I would like. And that is Jefferson's Oceans. Age to see. It's something about the mellowness. It's something about just the depth. And if you are new to bourbon, I will tell you, I would start with that one because it's gonna let you appreciate everything that's a little bit stronger than it. It'll let you appreciate things that are a little bit softer. Jefferson's Oceans. I always have 5-bottle glass.

Okay. That's what I'm saying.

Yes. Because if you come to my house, you are gonna have Jack Daniel's.

He forces you to drink Jack Daniel's.

It's not a force. It's not a force.

It is delicious. Yes. Um, I'll go with my number 1.

Okay.

I'm not just saying this because I work there.

Ooh.

Middle West Spirits Dark Pumpernickel Rye. It is fantastic.

Sounds like breakfast.

It could be. Next time I come over, I'll bring, uh, some Dark Pumpernickel Breakfast Rye.

Okay. Again, I know someone here who will appreciate it. You

say?

You, you can open it. I'll, I'll sniff the cork.

We'll get you that.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm out.

We'll get you that.

My number 1 is probably the bottle I turn everyone on. It is the distillery that I love the most. They even had a fire a long time ago. Yellowstone. Yellowstone. And you could give me any of the Yellowstone.

Really?

That's how much I love Yellowstone. But you can go to your local, down here in the South, ABC store, package store, wherever you're at. I know you might be in California or wherever, and you can just get it at CVS for all you want. But Yellowstone, the $40 bottle of Yellowstone, is amazing. The $80 bottle of Yellowstone Toasted is amazing. The 1981 $2,000 bottle of Yellowstone is amazing. Yellowstone, Yellowstone, Yellowstone. I'm not talking about the ranch. I'm talking about the park.

I'm gonna give an honorary mention.

What? Who? Who?

It's gonna— it's fantastic. Redwood Empire.

So

they put out really good bottles.

Honorable mention number 1 or?

That's just it. That's the only one. That's the only honorable mention. But like where?

Like, that'd be 6.

It would be 6. Redwood Empire, the rye is fantastic.

Really?

Yeah. So—

So I'm sticking to the— I said top 5, so I'm not giving honorable mentions.

I just had to. It was necessary.

You can't be like— I hate when people do that with Mount Rushmore. Like, it's 4. Don't give me the baby.

No, that's like a smaller statue.

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Appreciate you, man.

Yes, sir.