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This Halloween episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast delivers Week 8 fantasy football previews, covering Colts at Jaguars, Chargers at Rams, Chiefs at Broncos, Patriots at Dolphins, Eagles at Commanders and Bears at Seahawks. The hosts review Thursday night's game, discuss injury reports for players such as AJ Brown and Christian Watson, and debate start-or-sit decisions for quarterbacks, running backs and receivers.

Listeners also hear a rundown of waiver pickups and the hosts' opinions on coaching and offensive lines, which they present as their own views. The show closes with the Fantasy Face-Off and Wheel of Shame segments.

Expect practical lineup advice for managing redraft and dynasty teams.

In this episode Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike Wright

This Halloween Week 8 fantasy football episode, covering Colts at Jaguars and Chiefs at Broncos, was made with the technology behind HappyScribe's subtitle generator.

Speaker 100:00:11

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.

Speaker 200:00:28

Oh!

Speaker 300:00:29

Yeah!

Speaker 200:00:34

Okay, I'm amazed.

Speaker 300:00:36

Yeah, that's pretty good.

Speaker 200:00:37

Oh man, that looks so good!

Speaker 300:00:40

I mean, I'm the Fantasy Reaper.

Speaker 200:00:45

Welcome into the show.

Speaker 300:00:47

Happy Halloween, everybody!

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Speaker 200:00:48

I mean, the set—

Speaker 300:00:50

Halloween!

Speaker 200:00:50

We don't know about this stuff.

Speaker 300:00:51

No!

Speaker 200:00:51

I wonder you stayed late, Al. Which, by the way, if you're just joining us, you've got Mr. Butterfly Stretch himself.

Speaker 300:01:00

You got Stretching Out Boys, keep them groins nice and loose, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 200:01:04

Nobody knows—

Speaker 300:01:04

Do that Butterfly Stretch!

Speaker 200:01:05

Nobody—

Speaker 300:01:06

What is the voice? That's your character?

Speaker 200:01:11

I am the Fantasy Reaper.

Speaker 300:01:13

Yes.

Speaker 200:01:14

I have taken names all year long.

Speaker 300:01:16

Oh, you tried to take another one from us.

Speaker 200:01:18

Are you blaming me for Christian Watson?

Speaker 300:01:21

Yeah.

Speaker 200:01:21

Well, I let go of my grasp upon him, and he came back to the stadium.

Speaker 300:01:25

I overpowered you.

Speaker 200:01:26

And we've got Ted!

Speaker 300:01:28

Oh! It's 1999!

Speaker 200:01:31

Ted!

Speaker 300:01:32

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 200:01:33

Ted Hurst!

Speaker 300:01:33

Can you feel it?

Speaker 200:01:34

Ted Hurst! The dream come true for Mike.

Speaker 300:01:38

I don't have a mustache, and it's really gross.

Speaker 200:01:41

Oh, you look real—well, you look gross.

Speaker 300:01:43

It's like my Cam Scataboo last year.

Speaker 200:01:45

I came downstairs and had a regret.

Speaker 300:01:48

The wife was not happy about it.

Speaker 200:01:50

Yeah, you did it! That makes me happy.

Speaker 300:01:52

Yeah!

Speaker 200:01:53

The Deucers, we've got Packer Game Referee. Oh, look at all the flags.

Speaker 300:01:59

Author of the script, very nice.

Speaker 200:02:00

Oh, Al Borlin with thousands of flags for the Packer Game.

Speaker 300:02:03

Yeah, that's why you won last night.

Speaker 200:02:06

Oh, he threw a flag on us.

Speaker 300:02:08

I'm saving this.

Speaker 200:02:09

And the electrical substation, the Falcon dressed up as the electrical substation himself. I know for a fact he's very uncomfortable in that outfit, which makes me very, very happy. Welcome into the show.

Speaker 300:02:22

Papa Josh dressed up as deceased man.

Speaker 200:02:25

The Invisible Man's army.

Speaker 300:02:27

Yes, the Invisible Man.

Speaker 200:02:28

He is Kevin Bacon from that one Hollowman movie.

Speaker 300:02:31

Yeah, Hollowman.

Speaker 200:02:32

Oh, man.

Speaker 300:02:33

Smash it. Superb costume.

Speaker 200:02:35

Yes! We had a Thursday night football game.

Speaker 300:02:38

Can we get Kyle on the screen?

Speaker 200:02:41

Oh, that's a good question.

Speaker 300:02:41

Is that part of our production capabilities?

Speaker 200:02:44

We'll look into it.

Speaker 300:02:44

Sure.

Speaker 200:02:45

We'll look into it.

Speaker 300:02:46

Because he looks amazing.

Speaker 200:02:48

News to talk about, guys. The game last night, Fantasy Forecast, Wheel of Shame.

Speaker 300:02:52

It's hard to even—what else do you talk about in this game? But the dog! The dog of all dogs!

Speaker 200:02:59

Back from the hospital.

Speaker 300:03:01

You can't mean Josh Jacobs. I know that for a fact.

Speaker 200:03:04

You talk about the touchdown machine?

Speaker 300:03:06

Oh, Jason. Jason.

Speaker 200:03:07

He's a touchdown machine, man.

Speaker 300:03:09

Just caping.

Speaker 200:03:09

Yeah.

Speaker 300:03:10

Coping as hard as he possibly can.

Speaker 200:03:13

Did he—how did he do for Fantasy?

Speaker 300:03:15

39 yards rushing.

Speaker 200:03:17

Yeah, okay.

Speaker 300:03:18

20 Fantasy points.

Speaker 200:03:19

90 out of 90. There have been 90 games in which somebody had 20 carries, and that was the least efficient game of all of them.

Speaker 300:03:26

Yeah.

Speaker 200:03:28

Yeah.

Speaker 300:03:30

But—

Speaker 200:03:30

But what do you do with that?

Speaker 300:03:31

That just sucks.

Speaker 200:03:31

What do you do with that? 21 for 39 on the ground.

Speaker 300:03:34

Oh.

Speaker 200:03:37

Oh, yeah.

Speaker 300:03:39

Trying to get stuff on the fly over here.

Speaker 200:03:41

You got to leave that in.

Speaker 300:03:42

I'll just get a screen grab of that.

Speaker 200:03:43

Yeah, yeah, do that.

Speaker 300:03:43

There you go. That's so much smarter.

Speaker 200:03:45

So, Josh, did you say the part where you—

Speaker 300:03:48

Oh, that was amazing.

Speaker 200:03:48

So, Jacobs had 27 touches.

Speaker 300:03:51

27. For 52 yards, the fewest yards per touch in Packer's history for a player with 25 or more touches in the game.

Speaker 200:04:01

To be fair to him, he looks super fat.

Speaker 300:04:03

Yeah, and not good at football.

Speaker 200:04:05

And is outscoring Jonathan Taylor, Christian McCaffrey, James Cook.

Speaker 300:04:11

On this week?

Speaker 200:04:11

No, on a per-game basis. He's played through two games.

Speaker 300:04:13

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

Speaker 200:04:14

He's averaging 18.9 points per game.

Speaker 300:04:16

Would you want to play the bank on it game?

Speaker 200:04:18

He's basically averaging what Bijon's averaging.

Speaker 300:04:20

Look, eight games for the Packers, nobody has surpassed 50 yards rushing in eight games for the Packers.

Speaker 200:04:25

Yeah.

Speaker 300:04:26

It is an offensive line problem, as much as I would like to just blame Fat Thor.

Speaker 200:04:31

Oh.

Speaker 300:04:31

The flags.

Speaker 200:04:32

I got another flag for saying bad things about the Packers.

Speaker 300:04:35

That's right.

Speaker 200:04:36

I can't say much bad. I mean, you had—it was Tucker Craft Day.

Speaker 300:04:40

Yeah.

Speaker 200:04:40

I mean, 6 for 53 and a touchdown.

Speaker 300:04:44

Yeah.

Speaker 200:04:44

Matthew Golden, the infinitely targeted Matthew Golden, 7 for 79 and a touchdown.

Speaker 300:04:48

So, okay, it's going to sound rude, and is he really that good?

Speaker 200:04:55

He is that good at being open all the time.

Speaker 300:04:57

Okay, okay.

Speaker 200:04:58

Yes.

Speaker 300:04:58

I will accept that, because—woof.

Speaker 200:05:02

Well, it's crazy, because he drops a touchdown. It wasn't over the shoulder. It was tough. And then he just comes back and gets wide open again for another touchdown.

Speaker 300:05:10

Yeah.

Speaker 200:05:10

Everybody knows that Golden's going to get every target, and it doesn't even matter, because he's just open all the time.

Speaker 300:05:15

Yep.

Speaker 200:05:16

Do you have a picture of Rufio from Hook?

Speaker 300:05:18

Oh, look at him!

Speaker 200:05:19

Look at that.

Speaker 300:05:20

Look at Rufio.

Speaker 200:05:21

That is fantastic.

Speaker 300:05:23

Bang-a-rang.

Speaker 200:05:26

So, we had Golden, and then you had the man, the dog, Christian Watson.

Speaker 300:05:30

I've never seen anything like it.

Speaker 200:05:31

Puts up a hundo in like five seconds, goes to the hospital.

Speaker 300:05:37

Coughing up blood.

Speaker 200:05:38

With his broken ribs.

Speaker 300:05:40

He apparently has a broken rib, was coughing up blood. He didn't want to go.

Speaker 200:05:43

A lot of people get surgery for that.

Speaker 300:05:46

But they took him. They said, "We have to go check something out." And they went to the hospital. I guess they checked it, and everything was good. And then, like a WWE superstar, he just kicks open the door of the ambulance.

Speaker 200:06:03

I mean, it's—

Speaker 300:06:03

And gets back on the field and gets targeted with a hospital ball immediately. Jordan Love, what was that? You already sent him to the hospital.

Speaker 200:06:13

It was the dream when you have a player go out injured to have him return. Like, people thought maybe this was over for weeks. It's not like Watson hasn't had piles of injuries. On the other side, Chubut was absolutely a dominator. Seven catches, 22 carries, a touchdown, 81 yards on the ground. Jalen Coker saved his day with a touchdown at the end on fourth down. They could not give Bryce Young a moment in the pocket.

Speaker 300:06:40

Yeah, I would make fun of Chubut's inefficiencies, but—

Speaker 200:06:45

That was pretty good.

Speaker 300:06:46

But compared to Josh Jacobs, he was an absolute superstar.

Speaker 200:06:49

He actually, I mean, he was over a four carry. Or four carry on the dot. So, right?

Speaker 300:06:53

Chubut?

Speaker 200:06:54

Yeah.

Speaker 300:06:54

No. You need to learn how to math again, man.

Speaker 200:06:57

20 carries for 80 yards might—

Speaker 300:06:59

22 carries for 81 yards.

Speaker 200:07:00

That's—

Speaker 300:07:01

Oh, man, he's so far off.

Speaker 200:07:03

Are you kidding me?

Speaker 300:07:03

That's 3.7. That's under four. In the world of yards per carry, the decimal matters a ton.

Speaker 200:07:11

I'm just saying, you know 20 for 80 is four.

Speaker 300:07:14

Right, but that's pretty—

Speaker 200:07:14

22 for 81. No, I know. But it's pretty close. It's pretty dang close.

Speaker 300:07:19

He had a—

Speaker 200:07:20

His inefficiencies are a matter of two carries for one yard.

Speaker 300:07:23

He had a great game. I mean, he played well, got a touchdown.

Speaker 200:07:26

And he kept breaking tackles the whole game.

Speaker 300:07:27

Seven receptions for 38 yards.

Speaker 200:07:30

Yeah.

Speaker 300:07:30

It was really worth it.

Speaker 200:07:32

How many carries were losses in the backfield where there were four defenders four yards deep? I mean, he had big plays. He had an 18-yard run. He caught the ball.

Speaker 300:07:40

The offensive line was horrendous. I tweeted out because, look, because Bryce Young sucked. And I was like, man, did the clock strike midnight on Bryce Young?

Speaker 200:07:52

Fellas, I struck a nerve.

Speaker 300:07:55

Oh, really?

Speaker 200:07:56

The Bryce Young hive.

Speaker 300:07:57

They are out there?

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Speaker 200:07:58

Oh, my God. The pitchforks were out for me. They're like, you don't know ball. You don't know ball. You don't know ball. It's like, I get it. The offensive line is horrible.

Speaker 300:08:09

Yeah, it is.

Speaker 200:08:10

It's horrible. Like, the pressure rate was, I think, in the mid-40%.

Speaker 300:08:14

He wasn't good, though.

Speaker 200:08:15

That's the thing.

Speaker 300:08:17

It was a combination.

Speaker 200:08:17

He was good if you got out of the pocket every once in a while, but—

Speaker 300:08:20

I thought it was interesting for Bryce who, like, completion percentage-wise, has not been good now for, so, three weeks. Since the bye week, he completed 51% of his passes, 52 and 56%. 200 yards at 56% completion rate. Like, that's old Bryce Young. That's the Bryce Young that isn't good enough. So, it was very funny to me of, like, they're like, no, everything is just the offensive line's fault.

Is it? Is it?

Speaker 200:08:52

The offensive line is terrible for Jordan Love.

Speaker 300:08:54

Terrible?

Speaker 200:08:55

Right.

Speaker 300:08:55

Jordan Love has maybe—

Speaker 200:08:57

Not compared to the Panthers last night. The pressure rate was very different.

Speaker 300:09:00

Yeah.

Speaker 200:09:01

But people have bad offensive lines.

Speaker 300:09:03

They're so tall.

Speaker 200:09:04

Yeah, no, I am the Fantasy Reaper.

Speaker 300:09:06

It's weird looking over and looking—

Speaker 200:09:07

Yeah, I'm large. I'm very large.

Speaker 300:09:09

Thank you, Kyle. Some quarterbacks pressured on a higher percent of dropbacks than Bryce Young this year: Josh Allen, Drake May, Jaden Daniels.

Speaker 200:09:19

Hmm.

Speaker 300:09:20

Oh, he's coming after you, Bryce Truthers.

Speaker 200:09:23

Look, I want Bryce Young—

Speaker 300:09:25

He could have made more plays. It was a tough environment. You're in Lambo.

Speaker 200:09:27

I want Bryce Young to be good.

Speaker 300:09:29

Yeah.

Speaker 200:09:29

We all want Bryce to be good.

Speaker 300:09:31

We want to be able to count on Ted and Coker and things like that.

Speaker 200:09:33

Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 300:09:34

It is Friday.

Speaker 400:09:39

Foot Clan Friday.

Speaker 200:09:41

Oh, my gosh. See, now I'm—we didn't know any of this was going to happen. Now I'm excited for every drop. And if you didn't do every drop—

Speaker 300:09:50

Oh, yeah.

Speaker 200:09:51

That's going to be a problem.

Speaker 300:09:51

Hey, check this out.

Speaker 200:09:54

Well, not every drop.

Speaker 300:09:58

It's one show, man.

Speaker 200:10:00

I know.

Speaker 300:10:00

That's a lot of work.

Speaker 200:10:01

For sure.

Speaker 300:10:01

$100 gift card every week to a Foot Clan supporter for—

Speaker 200:10:05

This one's extra spooky.

Speaker 300:10:06

From jointhefoot.com. It's not spooky, Mike. It's Spawny633.

Speaker 200:10:11

No, I was saying the gift card.

Speaker 300:10:13

Oh, I got you. I thought you thought the name was spooky.

Speaker 200:10:16

I don't even have the name in front of me.

Speaker 300:10:17

Spawny633, congratulations. You get $100 coming your way. Let's talk news.

Speaker 400:10:26

News and notes from around the league.

Speaker 200:10:30

These are outst—this is awesome.

Speaker 300:10:32

Oh, wait, hold on. Add Caleb Williams to the quarterbacks pressured on a higher percentage of dropbacks. I believe, is Caleb the most accurate quarterback in the league right now?

Speaker 200:10:42

I would be surprised, but—

Speaker 300:10:45

Sounds like you think he is.

Speaker 200:10:47

I know that.

Speaker 300:10:47

I actually don't know that number.

Speaker 200:10:49

Because Caleb is completing 71% of his passes.

Speaker 300:10:53

So, no, he is not. It looks like Shedur Sanders is one for one, baby. 100% completion rate.

Speaker 200:11:00

Oh, damn.

Speaker 300:11:02

But if you want to go with quarterbacks that are playing, Joe Burrow is leading the way.

Speaker 200:11:07

All right, okay.

Speaker 300:11:08

But Caleb is right behind.

Speaker 200:11:11

Christian Watson confirmed dog. We talked about it. He seems like he's okay. We'll monitor it this week.

Speaker 300:11:15

I mean, yeah.

Speaker 200:11:16

DJ Moore, Dalton Kincaid remained limited yesterday.

Speaker 300:11:19

Gross.

Speaker 200:11:20

Keep an eye on those.

Speaker 300:11:21

That's gross.

Speaker 200:11:21

Lamar Jackson practiced in full. He'll be back. Here's a red alert. Carnell Tate did not practice again on Thursday. Not expected to practice today and is likely to be listed as doubtful.

Speaker 300:11:33

I got him.

Speaker 200:11:35

Ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 300:11:37

I got him.

Speaker 200:11:38

Yeah, Carnell Tate is not playing. And so, the Titans are doomed.

Speaker 300:11:45

Yeah, it's going to be a Halloween horror show for the Titans this week.

Speaker 200:11:50

Oh, Mike liked it.

Speaker 300:11:51

Yeah.

Speaker 200:11:53

That's my line.

Speaker 300:11:53

I'm waiting for it. Not delivering them. Jameer Gibbs, Amon-Ra St. Brown, both listed as healthy and back to full practices, which we thought. Aaron Jones returned to a limited practice, so he may get some time this week.

Speaker 200:12:05

Okay.

Speaker 300:12:05

Brees Hall remained limited. It's hot in here, man. It's really hot in this.

Speaker 200:12:10

Warm in those reapers.

Speaker 300:12:12

This is my winter reaper outfit, and I needed my summer outfit with the board shorts.

Speaker 200:12:17

Some sleeveless.

Speaker 300:12:18

Yeah, I needed the, like, tank.

Speaker 200:12:20

Sleeveless capes.

Speaker 300:12:20

The tank version of this thing. Oh, mama. Oh, man. If I died in here, the irony. All right. Brees Hall limited. Braylon Allen upgraded to full. Emeka Abuka, this is a red alert here. We heard he shed the non-contact jersey, and then today, not practicing, and they're expecting him to be listed as out. It's not official yet, but they're not expected to have Abuka back.

Speaker 200:12:45

I'm curious if this is more.

Speaker 300:12:47

Baker shed the glove.

Speaker 200:12:49

Oh, that's good. I'm still not going to start him until after he plays well. I'm curious if this is known to be concussion or because he's got the concussion and the foot issue.

Speaker 300:13:00

Right.

Speaker 200:13:00

And I'm just curious which one it is. Because if it was, if we find out that this is for sure, he's not progressing through the concussion protocol.

Speaker 300:13:08

So.

Speaker 200:13:09

It would be a little bit scary.

Speaker 300:13:10

You know what time it is?

Speaker 200:13:12

Yeah, so you know what player gets an upgrade if Abuka's going to be out, Jay.

Speaker 300:13:16

Oh, Ted.

Speaker 200:13:17

He won't leave me crying.

Speaker 300:13:19

Why? Why did we get another flag?

Speaker 200:13:21

That was roughing the afro.

Speaker 300:13:24

Oh, thank you.

Speaker 200:13:25

Oh, okay. Okay, yeah, Ted Hurst could get a chance to not be started by anybody.

Speaker 300:13:31

Go home.

Speaker 200:13:32

AJ Brown downgraded to a DMP on Thursday and is not going to practice Friday.

Speaker 300:13:36

And this is not his hamstring. This is a.

Speaker 200:13:40

This is his knee.

Speaker 300:13:41

Knee issue. This is the knee issue he's dealt with for years. This is the knee issue that the Rams pulled out of their, they were interested in trading for AJ Brown, and then when they looked at the degenerative knee, they decided, we're not going to give up, you know, the capital for that.

Speaker 200:13:54

What was the knee again?

Speaker 300:13:55

Degenerative knee.

Speaker 200:13:56

Oh, there you go.

Speaker 300:13:58

Yeah.

Speaker 200:14:00

And so.

Speaker 300:14:00

We're trying to talk about a serious injury.

Speaker 200:14:03

This is a show that should be watched, not listened to.

Speaker 300:14:05

You're playing games with our back screen.

Speaker 200:14:07

Yeah.

Speaker 300:14:07

This one, like, this is an uh-oh.

Speaker 200:14:10

For sure.

Speaker 300:14:10

This to me is an uh-oh.

Speaker 200:14:12

You could miss, I mean, this is something that's bugged him for years. That is red alert.

Speaker 300:14:17

Yeah, I mean, I don't think he's going to play this week.

Speaker 200:14:20

Treyvo also not seen on Friday either. It was listed as an illness yesterday, but not out there today. I mean, Treyvo is no longer in any starting conversations. He already wasn't.

Speaker 300:14:31

Yeah, that's fair.

Speaker 200:14:32

RJ Harvey added to the injury report with a knee injury. Saquon, Devontae Smith, Dontavian, Wicks, all did not practice on Thursday. Saquon was seen practicing today, but Smith and Wicks, who missed last week, that's a cool combo. Smith and Wicks.

Speaker 300:14:47

Sounds like a good.

Speaker 200:14:48

What is it selling?

Speaker 300:14:49

Sounds like a Smith & Wesson.

Speaker 200:14:50

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 300:14:51

It's a brand.

Speaker 200:14:52

Thank you.

Speaker 300:14:53

Yeah.

Speaker 200:14:54

It's a brand.

Speaker 300:14:55

It's a brand.

Speaker 200:14:56

You ever heard of Nike? It's a brand.

Speaker 300:14:59

But Smith and Wicks, I don't know if we can expect them this week right now. And Jadarian Price, the 21-day window is open.

Speaker 200:15:05

Did you say Wesson?

Speaker 300:15:06

Yeah, I did.

Speaker 200:15:06

Like the hotel?

Speaker 300:15:07

Yeah, I did. I said Smith and Wesson, which is not the brand.

Speaker 200:15:12

It is a brand, though. Wesson is a brand.

Speaker 300:15:15

It is.

Speaker 200:15:16

Yeah.

Speaker 300:15:16

It's a lovely hotel chain.

Speaker 200:15:19

Jadarian Price could be back soon. I feel like that news was really all over the place.

Speaker 300:15:27

Oh, man. Those Seattle Seahawks running backs.

Speaker 200:15:31

Well, look, I've gone back. I mean, there are a lot of explosive plays from Jadarian Price. His role in this offense is going to be committee, but he's going to make plays on this offense because, you know, and Charbonnets was good enough to take carries from Walker last year, whether you believed he should or shouldn't. They believed in him enough. Like, they're going to give the ball to those guys. They're not going to be in the market to trade for somebody. And we'll see if Price can have a better second half of the year. We'll be right back.

Let's jump into the forecast.

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Speaker 200:16:17

I'm in awe. I'm in awe. If there's one episode a year that you need to go to youtube.com/thefantasyfootballers, it is the Halloween show each and every year. If you want to see Ted Durst reborn. You said you came down the stairs today, and the wife was like, cool, no mustache.

Speaker 300:16:34

Yeah, and I was like, I did it for the Nuki. She was like, no. Get your mustache.

Speaker 200:16:42

Oh, man. Matchups we covered yesterday. Ravens, Bills, Titans, Bangles, Cardinals, Cowboys, Vikings, Lions, Raiders, Jets, Browns, Steelers, Falcons, Buccaneers. Six to go. Colts, Jags, starting us off. Colts are two and five, circling the drain, trading their best players. Jacksonville looks good each and every week. Four and two, coming off the bye. 10-point favorites. Over-under is 46 and a half. Wild. Wild. Leading the division. And by, when I say leading the division, Jacksonville is four and two.

The Colts are in second at two and five. Did you realize that?

Speaker 300:17:19

What?

Speaker 200:17:20

The Texans are two and five, and the Titans are one and six.

Speaker 300:17:22

Wow.

Speaker 200:17:23

So right now, Jacksonville just owns everything. By the way, the Reaper has an Apple Watch. I don't know if you knew that. I noticed that on the camera.

Speaker 300:17:32

You kind of know what time it is.

Speaker 200:17:34

That's right.

Speaker 300:17:34

You got to set your appointments to pick people up.

Speaker 200:17:36

Trevor Lawrence is my star of the week. Jason, you went with Bashal Tooten. Parker Washington is a must-start every week. Let's say you had to start another pass catcher for Jacksonville.

Speaker 300:17:46

It would have to be Jacobi Myers.

Speaker 200:17:48

Is that over Brenton Strange?

Speaker 300:17:49

I would go with Brenton Strange.

Speaker 200:17:51

Yeah, I mean, either one is fine. Brenton Strange is probably a more a player that will be started more because he's a tight end. And I've got him as a low-end tight end one right now. He's like my tight end 11 or 12 on the week. So he is startable, whereas obviously I don't have Jacobi Myers in the top 10. But Myers is coming off, you know, a 10-target game. So I would say that he is certainly worthy of being in the mix.

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Speaker 300:18:16

Yeah, he's a flex player. Brenton Strange, over the past three weeks, is getting more involved. We got a 23% target share. We have actual thunder going on.

Speaker 200:18:26

That was a massive amount of thunder.

Speaker 300:18:28

It won't come through.

Speaker 200:18:28

No, but it feels like Halloween.

Speaker 300:18:30

Yes, this is weird.

Speaker 200:18:32

The other, did you finish your thought there when the lightning struck?

Speaker 300:18:35

Yeah.

Speaker 200:18:36

The other side, question marks galore. How much work does Jonathan Taylor get? And does it say something about the trade? Josh Downs requested a trade. It's really hard for me, not that I would ever start Josh Downs, but I don't know how much he's playing. Keenan Allen, he's here for the records. He's the one dude that could get, I mean, to me, I would play Keenan Allen.

Speaker 300:18:58

Keenan Allen has also requested Josh Downs get traded.

Speaker 200:19:01

Yeah, Keenan wants receptions, and I think he's going to get a lot of targets in this game. This is a good matchup for receivers. It's a pass funnel defense. It's very difficult to run on the Jags this year and decently easy to pass on them, and you're going to need to pass the ball. So I actually think both Josh Downs and Keenan Allen with Tyler Warren out are okay plays this week.

Speaker 300:19:25

Keenan's on the countdown, so.

Speaker 200:19:27

Well, I mean, Tyler Warren's expected back, isn't he? You just said that Tyler Warren out. I thought he was expected back.

Speaker 300:19:32

He's been limited this week.

Speaker 200:19:35

Does that change things for you, Jason, if he plays?

Speaker 300:19:37

If Tyler Warren is active, I'm less bullish on both of those.

Speaker 200:19:41

He's turning in the right direction to play, which is what we thought in the beginning of the week.

Speaker 300:19:45

I'm nervous about Warren.

Speaker 200:19:48

Yeah, I'm nervous about every single offensive piece here.

Speaker 300:19:52

Well, I'm just because of the injury.

Speaker 200:19:54

Yeah, it's a Jacksonville defense that is pretty good. It's a Colts offense that has been pretty much a disaster. This game's not even, you know, it's on the road. I just feel like it could be a bloodbath.

Speaker 300:20:09

Yeah, I think it will be. I mean, right now, what's the line?

Speaker 200:20:13

Minus 10.

Speaker 300:20:14

Yeah, I think that's the expectation, is a good spanking.

Speaker 200:20:20

The Colts are the only team in the NFL to lead in trail in every single game of the season.

Speaker 300:20:23

Impressive.

Speaker 200:20:24

That might not last. The Los Angeles Chargers.

Speaker 300:20:28

For Jonathan Taylor, sorry. They're like, if we don't trade him, because we want to build around him.

Speaker 200:20:32

Yeah.

Speaker 300:20:34

The running back.

Speaker 200:20:35

Yep.

Speaker 300:20:35

But what they did was get rid of a legendary guard.

Speaker 200:20:39

Yeah.

Speaker 300:20:40

Who still, look, he started.

Speaker 200:20:41

They got a lot for him.

Speaker 300:20:42

They did, but I'm saying he's.

Speaker 200:20:44

They got about a sauce gardener for him.

Speaker 300:20:47

No, they didn't get two ones.

Speaker 200:20:50

Quinn?

Speaker 300:20:50

I feel like they didn't get much for him.

Speaker 200:20:53

I thought that, I can't remember it, but I remember feeling like it was okay. But my point is like, you're building around a running back, and yet you made your defense worse and your offensive line worse.

Speaker 300:21:03

Right.

Speaker 200:21:03

Like.

Speaker 300:21:04

Yeah, I mean, it seems like they're.

Speaker 200:21:06

Does not compute.

Speaker 300:21:06

It seems like they're tearing it down.

Speaker 200:21:07

Does not compute.

Speaker 300:21:08

He's still the face of the franchise. I keep going back and forth on whether or not he's going to get traded.

Speaker 200:21:14

I do, I don't know.

Speaker 300:21:14

But as of this moment, I think they just have to trade him.

Speaker 200:21:18

Well, the rumor mill is.

Speaker 300:21:19

Was it a three and a five?

Speaker 200:21:20

Yeah, it was a three and a five.

Speaker 300:21:22

Yeah, I mean, you were going to have to extend him. So the story there was Chris Ballard chose not to extend him, and then you got to.

Speaker 200:21:28

Well, not Chris Ballard.

Speaker 300:21:29

Yeah, what's Chris Ballard?

Speaker 200:21:31

Sure, I'm just saying.

Speaker 300:21:31

Chris Ballard was the one that decided in the offseason not to extend him. And then, you know, that meant that his commitment to this team long-term, what they were going to do was going to change. So I'm kind of just.

Speaker 200:21:41

That is insane.

Speaker 300:21:41

Yeah, we are getting the most lightning and thunder I've ever heard in Arizona.

Speaker 200:21:45

I think you're bringing it, man.

Speaker 300:21:46

I'm not sure.

Speaker 200:21:47

Or maybe it's the substation.

Speaker 300:21:49

Yeah, I feel terrible about starting anybody on the Indianapolis Colts outside of just playing Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 200:21:56

We did just get Tyler Warren will play.

Speaker 300:21:58

Okay, so he's active.

Speaker 200:22:00

I'm nervous.

Speaker 300:22:00

Good timing.

Speaker 200:22:01

The Chargers 0 and 6, the Rams 3 and 4, Vegas Lion, Los Angeles minus 6 and a half. What? That's wrong. Yeah, somebody put that in wrong. There's no way the Chargers are favored. That would be the Rams, by 6 and a half. The over-unders 45 and a half. I watched the doc live update in front of me. One letter off, he said. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 300:22:23

Dude, it's just like a decimal for the yards per carry. Like, it's just one. Just one. It's a little tiny little detail.

Speaker 200:22:29

You're trying to argue that 20 for 80 and 22 for 81 are vastly different.

Speaker 300:22:33

Yes, I am.

Speaker 200:22:35

Jason.

Speaker 300:22:36

It's not vastly different.

Speaker 200:22:37

That's wild.

Speaker 300:22:37

Okay.

Speaker 200:22:39

Goodness gracious. The Chargers. Where are we? We get to play the Rams.

Speaker 300:22:45

McDaniel's still employed. That's where we are.

Speaker 200:22:50

When Harbaugh was the quarterback for the Chargers, they went 1 and 15. That was the last time he in any capacity lost seven consecutive games. It was 26 years ago.

Speaker 300:23:03

The offense for the Chargers, I don't think people, like, we know it's been bad, but it is not bad. It is the worst. It is the worst points per game, 32nd, EPA per play, 32nd, EPA per dropback, 32nd, turnovers per drive, 32nd. They are abysmally bad.

Speaker 200:23:24

Who do you start on that team?

Speaker 300:23:26

I'll start. I'll play Lad. He's a full practice. He's going to be back from the concussion. Maybe the time off.

Speaker 200:23:31

Yes.

Speaker 300:23:34

Maybe he's a little healed. We've only seen a healthy Lad.

Speaker 200:23:37

A little bit healed?

Speaker 300:23:38

Maybe. We've only seen a healthy Lad McConkey for part of one game.

Speaker 200:23:43

Yeah.

Speaker 300:23:44

And he was very good. Like, he is incredibly important to this offense. He's talented. I will still play him if he's active. Everybody else.

Speaker 200:23:58

Hard pass. Hampton, hard pass.

Speaker 300:24:00

If I can get away with it. I don't want to start any other Chargers.

Speaker 200:24:07

I'm hopeful that, you know, coming out of the bye, maybe they helped figure out the offensive line a little bit, because that's the core issue here. The pressure, they can't run. There's, you know, the offensive line has been bad. You can't pass, because every time he drops back to pass, he's got guys in his face. Hopefully, they fixed some of the offensive line scheme issues or whatever it is, but until we see that, it's kind of like Baker. Like, I want a game proven once.

Speaker 300:24:37

I got some names for you.

Speaker 200:24:38

Okay. Well, and by the way, Herbert's prize picks projection on passing yards is 202. That is the third lowest of any quarterback.

Speaker 300:24:47

That makes sense.

Speaker 200:24:47

I mean, the.

Speaker 300:24:49

That's disgusting.

Speaker 200:24:50

It just feels like not going to be the first twin.

Speaker 300:24:52

Okay. Hampton or Jonah Coleman against Kansas City?

Speaker 200:24:57

Oh, against Kansas City?

Speaker 300:24:59

Hampton's against the Rams.

Speaker 200:25:01

That's a brutal decision. I would play Hampton.

Speaker 300:25:05

Jonah. Man. Let's see. Jeremiah Love if he's back.

Speaker 200:25:11

Jeremiah Love I think is a great play this week.

Speaker 300:25:13

Jordan Mason against Detroit.

Speaker 200:25:15

Aaron Jones is going to play. Detroit stops the run. I'll play Jordan Mason.

Speaker 300:25:21

Well said, Andy. Well said.

Speaker 200:25:25

We're getting annihilated.

Speaker 300:25:26

This is unbelievable. I don't think this is going to come through in the audio, but we've done this. We've been in this studio for.

Speaker 200:25:33

I think all of our cars have exploded with hail at this point.

Speaker 300:25:36

For like six years, seven years. We've never had what's going on outside like this.

Speaker 200:25:42

No. There's a decent chance the power goes out.

Speaker 300:25:45

True.

Speaker 200:25:46

Because the substation's here. No, I think Hampton or Braylon Allen in a committee. That's the last one before I talk about the Rams.

Speaker 300:25:56

Is Bruce Hall going to be back? I mean, he's been limited all week. I think he was getting limited practices in last week too. So trend-wise, it would seem like he would, but there's a chance.

Speaker 200:26:11

You got battery backup, right?

Speaker 300:26:13

A little bit. Aaron Glenn says something.

Speaker 200:26:15

Let me throw a flag on that. Oh, I can't reach him.

Speaker 300:26:18

Questionable for the game as he looks to return from a quadricep injury. That's all we got so far.

Speaker 200:26:23

Oh my God. I didn't say anything, and you're throwing them at me.

Speaker 300:26:27

His aim was poor. I think he was trying to get it to the Reaper.

Speaker 200:26:30

Right now, Matthew Stafford and the Rams. Where are you with this offense? You're not going to have Adams for a while, though. There was a report. I want to mention this. The most recent report on Devontae Adams is that they expect him to be towards the front end of the 6 to 10 week situation.

Speaker 300:26:45

That's good to know.

Speaker 200:26:46

Which I think would be week 13. Kyren Williams and Blake Corum. Blake Corum's outscored him for three consecutive weeks in terms of average, or the average has been better for three weeks. Kyren's been still very, very good. Both of them, I think you start in this matchup.

Speaker 300:27:01

Yeah.

Speaker 200:27:02

Puka Nakua, he might not be 100%, but he's 100% in my lineup.

Speaker 300:27:06

Yeah, we have five plus catches in 15 consecutive games. That's the longest active streak right now for Puka. I think that's it. I don't know if, well, Kobe Parkinson did not practice Wednesday or Thursday. It narrows it down.

Speaker 200:27:22

So if Kobe Parkinson was healthy and active, I think I would rather start him over Higbee as a younger guy, more touchdown threat.

Speaker 300:27:31

I mean, Davis Allen has scored in recent weeks.

Speaker 200:27:33

If Kobe Parkinson is out, then I think Higbee is someone that you can throw in there again.

Speaker 300:27:39

I think you've got enough options at tight end to not mess around with what feels like a feast or famine situation.

Speaker 200:27:47

I'd play Okonkwo over the Rams guys.

Speaker 300:27:49

Yep.

Speaker 200:27:52

I'd play Mayor over the Rams guys.

Speaker 300:27:54

Friar-Muth?

Speaker 200:27:55

Yeah.

Speaker 300:27:56

I think I would.

Speaker 200:27:57

I mean, you can try to go back to the well there, but that's not an area where the Chargers have been vulnerable at all. They're number two in the league against tight end.

Speaker 300:28:04

Yeah, for schedule.

Speaker 200:28:05

That concerns me. Like, I would at least want it to be favorable if I'm taking that risk.

Speaker 300:28:08

Sure.

Speaker 200:28:09

I don't know if, Jason, you play Chig over Higbee.

Speaker 300:28:12

I would play Chig, yeah. I mean, genuinely, no joke.

Speaker 200:28:15

What about Chigby?

Speaker 300:28:16

I have this question in our league of record. Chigby, if I can get both. And we don't have those other level guys on the waivers right now. So, like, you know, the question is Mark Andrews, Mike Gasici, Cade Otten, Darren Waller. Those are the names that you're going to be choosing between the Rams guys.

Speaker 200:28:39

Well, yeah, fair.

Speaker 300:28:42

You know, the Rams guys versus that level of player.

Speaker 200:28:48

By the way, Matthew Stafford, if you weren't aware, because the Rams have been kind of a weird story so far this year, he is ahead of pace for passing yardage from his MVP season. He's leading the league. So there is opportunity every week. It's just being spread around. Like you said, you had a Parkinson, Higbee, Davis Allen, Mumfield, you know, different players. Both running backs are catching passes. But Stafford kind of fits the mold to me of, like, the you brought up Darnold second half. Like, Stafford's kind of being completely ignored.

He's probably a spot start, emergency start type of guy.

Speaker 300:29:23

He is, but this is the most perfect Matthew Stafford line. Last week against the Las Vegas Raiders, the team scored 35 points. He threw three touchdowns, and he was the quarterback 12 with 17 and a half points. He only had 195, so that's low for him compared to the rest of the year. But it's like three passing touchdowns, and you sneak into the top 12?

Speaker 200:29:49

The Chiefs are five and one. They go to Denver to take on the five and two Broncos who got right against Arizona, because all teams do. Vegas line, Kansas City minus one and a half, over-under 40 and a half. It's a battle for the top of the AFC West division. This is the game where Kinbone went wild in week one, 31 to 10. I am not scared of Denver's rushing defense anymore. They are not good. And you can look to, you know, even the Cardinals last week, you know, Bam not getting opportunities.

The Cardinals didn't have their top guys. There were still a handful of plays where it was like, man, this doesn't seem like the same rushing defense. They're 23rd on the year in fantasy points allowed. A little bit more middle of the pack when you adjust for when you look at adjusted, but I am not afraid is what I'm saying. Ken Walker should be able to bounce back in this one. Mahomes, I'm afraid, I wouldn't be playing him against Denver.

Speaker 300:30:48

Agreed.

Speaker 200:30:49

Rashi Rice, if he came back, are you going right back to the well with Rice, or are you trying to, like, Caleb Douglas or Rashi Rice? Douglas off of the big game.

Speaker 300:30:57

I'd still play Rice.

Speaker 200:30:58

Yeah, at that level, I'd go Rice. I'm not looking to shove him in the lineup, though, coming back off of the hamstring issue that has kept him out.

Speaker 300:31:06

Omar Cooper, waiver hotness against the Raiders.

Speaker 200:31:08

I would go Omar Cooper. I think both have the chance, you know, for big games. Rashi Rice has the chance for reaggravating the hamstring issue that's kept him out. And this isn't a good matchup. I agree with you. You can run on the Broncos, but their pass defense is, you know, one of the better ones out there.

Speaker 300:31:24

Makai Lemmon, waiver hotness against Washington.

Speaker 200:31:28

Ah, man.

Speaker 300:31:29

With Wicks and.

Speaker 200:31:31

It seems like they will not play him.

Speaker 300:31:31

I think I'm probably missing.

Speaker 200:31:33

I think I go Makai.

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Speaker 300:31:33

Okay.

Speaker 200:31:36

Jonah Coleman, part of the storyline here with Denver on that side. Bo Nix.

Speaker 300:31:40

Jonah Coleman, I have a very important question, Jason. His prize picks projection.

Speaker 200:31:44

Oh, gosh.

Speaker 300:31:45

It's 55.5.

Speaker 200:31:47

We round down, baby!

Speaker 300:31:49

That was the question. Yeah, I wasn't sure if he was willing to do it.

Speaker 200:31:53

Yeah. Do you see Dobbins' sarcastic locker room comments with the.

Speaker 300:31:56

He came off looking not good.

Speaker 200:31:59

Spicy.

Speaker 300:32:00

Yeah.

Speaker 200:32:00

I mean, he thought he was going to get them.

Speaker 300:32:02

No, it was a bad look to me. Like, I've always liked J.K. Dobbins, and I was like.

Speaker 200:32:07

He was excuse-making or, like, kind of trying to justify.

Speaker 300:32:10

He was making them tell him how good he was.

Speaker 200:32:13

Yeah.

Speaker 300:32:14

He was like, how did I do? How was my run? He was like, what was my average? I was dominating. Then we blew him out, and, you know, I got some more rest. And maybe that is what happened. Genuinely, you can make an argument that Dobbins was first man up and got more work early, and when they were blowing out the Cardinals, then, you know, that was more where Jonah Coleman took over.

Speaker 200:32:35

Maybe.

Speaker 300:32:35

Maybe. But also, Jonah Coleman is a potential future, and J.K. Dobbins isn't. And J.K. Dobbins has been terrible. Maybe you were okay in the beginning of that game against the Arizona Cardinals, but you have been terrible this year. So I think they have to move Jonah Coleman in, especially as a team that is considering. They're one of the teams that has reportedly called on Jonathan Taylor. They've been in the hunt over the last couple of years. Every time a big name.

Speaker 200:33:02

They wanted Walker.

Speaker 300:33:03

They wanted Walker. They wanted Christian McCaffrey when he was up for it. So if I'm them, I've got to throw Jonah Coleman out there and say, let's see what we got in this dude if we really try to rely on him.

Speaker 200:33:16

Dobbins is 3.4 a carry. Are you starting Dobbins or Coleman if you had them both? Because a lot of Dobbins managers have picked up Coleman.

Speaker 300:33:23

I think I would go Coleman over Dobbins.

Speaker 200:33:25

Yeah, I will.

Speaker 300:33:26

Talent, at least. I wouldn't bet on Coleman getting more work than Dobbins. Getting the first touch over Dobbins, none of that. But if they both got 10 carries, I would certainly bet that Jonah Coleman would do more with them.

Speaker 200:33:39

Yeah, this is not a full confidence. I'm saying Coleman, I believe that Coleman's going to take over. Jalen Waddle, limited on Thursday with the chest injury. Only one game in seven weeks as a top 24 pick.

Speaker 300:33:54

Out of my life.

Speaker 200:33:55

Or top 24 finish. So you're not messing around.

Speaker 300:33:59

No.

Speaker 200:34:00

No, neither am I. The New England Patriots at four and three. Drake Maye on fire, taking on the one and five Dolphins. Just got the first dub. Games in Miami. Vegas line is New England. Minus seven over-under is 43 and a half. Only 18 implied points for Miami. New England going on the road to take on the Dolphins. We heard all the news about AJ Brown. It doesn't seem like I'm at the point with AJ Brown based on the performances, the way he looks. And now this news, if he's active, I'm not playing him.

What do you think about that?

Speaker 300:34:35

I think that's fine in this game. I mean, the Dolphins have not given up any good games to wide receivers on the season, basically.

Speaker 200:34:44

Because people can just win other ways.

Speaker 300:34:45

Yeah, they can win other ways. They've got a good corner. So yeah, I mean, if he plays, I'm not playing him. And, you know, there might be areas here where, you know, maybe if you're doing prize picks and you want to look Pop Douglas' way or Hunter Henry's way or whatever because they'll get a little bit more work. I think Hunter Henry is a great play. But I'm not sure that I would want in my leagues to start just because AJ Brown is out. I'm not going to go ahead and throw another wide receiver in this match.

Speaker 200:35:16

With confidence in this match. Yeah. So Drake Maye, Ramon Ray Stevenson, and Hunter Henry are your three Patriots?

Speaker 300:35:22

Yes.

Speaker 200:35:23

And Henry, I do feel strongly about it. I play him over Kincaid. I play him over Strange. I think pits is a discussion depending on whether you want some more upside. Like Henry's not going to go off for 89 yards and two touchdowns. But he will go like seven for 54 with a chance at a touchdown. Yeah. On the other side.

Speaker 300:35:42

Corey Kyner.

Speaker 200:35:44

Go ahead.

Speaker 300:35:44

Corey Kyner should be stashed.

Speaker 200:35:45

Sure. Absolutely.

Speaker 300:35:46

Nothing finer.

Speaker 200:35:48

Corey Kyner, running back for the New England Patriots. He's gotten a couple carries here and there over the last few weeks. Looks like he's got some juice. And with everything that's going on with Travion Henderson of him being bad at football, being injured, seeming like the team has just they're losing their patience with Henderson.

Speaker 300:36:11

They want to trade him.

Speaker 200:36:13

Have you seen him pick Kyner up?

Speaker 300:36:14

They do.

Speaker 200:36:15

He can't block a thing.

Speaker 300:36:17

It's unbelievable.

Speaker 200:36:18

You put him out there and you feel more incompetent as an offense in totality.

Speaker 300:36:22

I mean, you can't have him block. You cannot. If you put him out there, put him out there. And we've seen this with other players where the way that they help pass protect is a leak out. And you dump it over. Don't let him block anybody because he can't do it. I had my head in my hands.

Speaker 200:36:37

That's tough though because then the defense knows when Travion comes in, it's a play for him.

Speaker 300:36:40

I mean, it's just, it's really, really tough, especially for a player who in college was known as a great pass protector. I don't know what happened. They need to trade him. Please, Patriots, trade him. Trade Travion Henderson and give him. I'm not saying he'll be better somewhere else and figure it out, but dude needs a fresh start. He's not going to work.

Speaker 200:37:02

Yeah, give him a chance.

Speaker 300:37:04

Ollie Gordon, he is a must start at this point. He just gets too much work. Caleb Douglas, he was a hot pickup this week. He's looked good in his two starts. You finally get consecutive starts where he's healthy. I don't think it's the end of the world to throw him out there as a flex this week. I thought that Malik looked better last week. Not good. Not going to go that far, but he won.

Speaker 200:37:29

I think they've scored over 20 points in back-to-back weeks.

Speaker 300:37:32

I don't think it is going to be easy to do that against this Patriots team, but yeah, I mean, Caleb Douglas, he.

Speaker 200:37:39

Would you play him or Metcalf?

Speaker 300:37:41

I'd play Metcalf.

Speaker 200:37:41

Okay, I thought so. But would you play Ted Hurst or Caleb Douglas?

Speaker 300:37:47

No, no.

Speaker 200:37:48

So I'm very excited that Baker's glove is gone and he may be throwing the ball a bit more, but so Caleb is like kind of more desperation flex for you?

Speaker 300:37:57

Can you feel it?

Speaker 200:37:58

Yeah, but I think he's a fun one to throw in there. Sometimes you put a desperation flex where you're like.

Speaker 300:38:04

Antonio Williams, my sleeper, or Caleb?

Speaker 200:38:09

I would go.

Speaker 300:38:11

I'd be Williams.

Speaker 200:38:12

I would go Caleb.

Speaker 300:38:13

Okay.

Speaker 200:38:13

Yeah. All right. Let's take a break and we've got some Sunday night, Monday night football to talk through and we still have the fantasy face-off. All right, at home, obviously, during that break, you were probably butterfly stretching like we were.

Speaker 300:38:33

Stretch them out, please.

Speaker 200:38:34

So hopefully your groins.

Speaker 300:38:35

Keep those groins loose.

Speaker 200:38:36

Keep your groins great. That's what we always say. Philadelphia two and five, Sunday night football taking on the one four and one Commanders. Vegas line is Washington minus six over under 40.

Speaker 300:38:48

Someone has to win.

Speaker 200:38:50

That's how that line feels. Goodness gracious. The Philadelphia offense is dead last in yards per play this year. Sean Manion might need to start updating his LinkedIn profile.

Speaker 300:39:03

Yeah, I'm sorry. No, it's fine. He was a good quarterback. I never said he was a good offensive coordinator.

Speaker 200:39:07

You hoped.

Speaker 300:39:08

He was a good quarterback, huh?

Speaker 200:39:09

Yeah, college. I was going to say, like a lot of years of not starting. Jaden Daniels.

Speaker 300:39:16

You guys ever see Derek Henry's high school stats? Pretty good.

Speaker 200:39:20

What are your starts at difficulties in this one? Because I feel like Philadelphia is basically, we could spend the rest of the show discussing the disgusting with Philadelphia. What do you do at running back? What do you do at wide receiver? What do you do with Tanner McKee?

Speaker 300:39:36

The Philadelphia running back situation is difficult of.

Speaker 200:39:41

I mean, Pierce is on IR.

Speaker 300:39:42

Yeah, so it seemed like it was going to be easy. Halfway through the game last week when Barkley re-injured himself and Damian Pierce was getting all the work. You're like, okay, he'll be a top waiver pickup. And then he has an undisclosed injury, takes him out, he goes to the locker room, he goes on to IR. So he's gone. Elijah Mitchell had been brought up and then Elijah Mitchell is getting all the work at the end of the game. And yet now Jaden Blue is on the active roster, but Elijah Mitchell was put back on the practice squad.

Speaker 200:40:16

That's just transactional.

Speaker 300:40:18

I think so. I do believe that it's going to be Elijah Mitchell as next man up should Saquon not be able to go. And even if, okay, I guess.

Speaker 200:40:27

Would you say one place, are you even going to play Barkley after he scores?

Speaker 300:40:31

If Barkley plays, I'll play Barkley. If Barkley doesn't play, I'm not playing anyone.

Speaker 200:40:34

I think it would be the Commanders are the third worst matchup for fantasy running backs right now.

Speaker 300:40:39

Yeah, exactly. No, that's why I'm not playing anyone else. Barkley is good enough if he's healthy. He's not going to play though.

Speaker 200:40:44

He's not healthy.

Speaker 300:40:45

But I mean, I feel like this is a hypothetical that's not happening. He didn't practice yesterday, didn't practice Wednesday.

Speaker 200:40:52

Well, I bet you he's playing.

Speaker 300:40:53

You think so?

Speaker 200:40:54

I do.

Speaker 300:40:55

I'm saying, I think he could be active, but he's not healthy. And it's a Sunday night game, so you would be.

Speaker 200:41:02

I'll be shocked if he doesn't start the game. I'd be nervous about playing him.

Speaker 300:41:05

If you're locked into Barkley this week, it's Sunday night, you need to have an escape hatch.

Speaker 200:41:10

Yeah, if you're going that route, then you can have Elijah Mitchell.

Speaker 300:41:14

I guess, yeah.

Speaker 200:41:14

You know, available on 200% of leagues.

Speaker 300:41:19

Sir, not in the league of record.

Speaker 200:41:21

Oh, man.

Speaker 300:41:22

You're on it.

Speaker 200:41:24

Makai Lemon was seven for 67. Would you rather play Makai Lemon or Caleb Douglas?

Speaker 300:41:29

Makai Lemon.

Speaker 200:41:30

Yeah, I'll go Lemon. If Smith or Wicks are active, does that change?

Speaker 300:41:35

Yeah, a little bit.

Speaker 200:41:36

Yeah, for sure. Both of those guys have not practiced at all this week, so.

Speaker 300:41:42

You guys ever been in a place that's 200 to 250 degrees Celsius?

Speaker 200:41:48

Yeah.

Speaker 300:41:48

Well, I mean, it makes sense.

Speaker 200:41:49

My old body.

Speaker 300:41:50

I mean.

Speaker 200:41:55

It was warm in that thing.

Speaker 300:42:02

My old body. You should have dressed up as your old self for Halloween.

Speaker 200:42:06

Yeah.

Speaker 300:42:07

Oh my gosh.

Speaker 200:42:09

Give me a month, I could do it.

Speaker 300:42:12

No, I mean, you're working out obviously with the butterfly stretches and the.

Speaker 200:42:15

Yeah, staying loose.

Speaker 300:42:16

Yeah, look at him. You're a little more tan today too.

Speaker 200:42:18

Yeah.

Speaker 300:42:20

Oh boy. You messing around with Darius Cooper if Smith and Wicks are out?

Speaker 200:42:25

No.

Speaker 300:42:25

I would expect this to be the game where like that bounces around. You know, it's a Goddard, it's a Cooper, it's a Lemon. We'll see. Rashad White.

Speaker 200:42:34

Goddard should be fine. He had seven targets last week at tight end. A good matchup.

Speaker 300:42:39

Yeah, should be fine.

Speaker 200:42:41

The other side, Rashad White should be starting a football game. 2026. A game, not only a football game, guys. A football game in which the Commanders are six-point favorites. You got to play Rashad White.

Speaker 300:42:57

Yeah, you probably do. He should get enough work. And while the Eagles.

Speaker 200:43:01

Over Hampton, yes.

Speaker 300:43:03

The Eagles are a good run defense. And usually because their offense is good, they're able to like lock people down. But their offense is not kept up. The other teams have the lead. The other teams are winning. And so you continue to rush.

Speaker 200:43:19

They looked so bad last week.

Speaker 300:43:20

Well, that's what I mean. Now they're middle of the pack. And I think a lot of that is their offense. Their offensive struggles has hurt their defense. So I'm not scared at all. It's not a matchup I'm avoiding.

Speaker 200:43:29

Mike, you are confident in digs as a start of the week. I've got Chigga Conkwo. So we have a couple of pass catching options for Jaden. Does that make Jaden a pretty solid start this week? You guys would always play him.

Speaker 300:43:39

I'd play Jaden, yeah.

Speaker 200:43:41

And then if you're looking for a sleeper, Antonio Williams this week could be interesting. Would you play him over Lemon, Mike? Or would you go to Lemon just with the.

Speaker 300:43:52

If the injuries matter for that decision.

Speaker 200:43:55

We're finally going to see this team without McLaurin as part of the game plan.

Speaker 300:43:58

Yeah.

Speaker 200:44:00

Man.

Speaker 300:44:01

It's a tough one.

Speaker 200:44:01

I think I do. I think I'm going to play Antonio Williams. Regardless, Williams being available in leagues going into this weekend is silly. He should be stashed in every single league.

Speaker 300:44:14

He absolutely should be rostered in case.

Speaker 200:44:16

Stashed in every single league.

Speaker 300:44:17

Yes, in case the game plan is now without Terry McLaurin, we are putting Antonio Williams into more of that role. I would personally definitely be on the Makai Lemon start decision just because of a consolidation of targets. If you like Chigga and you like Stefan Diggs, maybe it is Antonio Williams and those other two guys. You don't know. On the Eagles side, assuming that Devontae Smith and Dontavian Wicks don't play, I mean, Makai Lemon should have a more guaranteed workload. And I think he's a better receiver.

Speaker 200:44:47

Yeah, Kyle DeBorgogian, by the way.

Speaker 300:44:49

More than Tanner McKee.

Speaker 200:44:50

Fair. Kyle DeBorgogian would like, he said he feels sad about his life knowing he's going to start.

Speaker 300:44:57

Rashad White.

Speaker 200:44:57

Rashad White over Amari and Hampton in real life, which is depressing.

Speaker 300:45:02

That is abysmal.

Speaker 200:45:03

The Bears and Seahawks face off on Monday night football. Five and two Bears who just made the big acquisition of Jeffrey Simmons. The four and three Seahawks who looked like their old selves last week when it comes to the defensive side.

Speaker 300:45:16

This one's in Seattle.

Speaker 200:45:17

Yeah, it's in Seattle. They're favored by three. The overrunner's 46 and a half. The odds to win the NFC right now, the 49ers are favored. The Seahawks are second. The Rams are third. The Vikings are now fourth and the Bears are fifth.

Speaker 300:45:36

Wow. The Vikings are ahead of the Bears.

Speaker 200:45:39

Seattle's defense is number one in yards per game allowed. They looked absolutely unstoppable, or I should say they stopped everything last week. It makes for some interesting ceiling discussions around the Bears' offense this week on Monday night football. I cannot see a world where the Bears come out and boat race Seattle.

Speaker 300:45:58

I don't either.

Speaker 200:45:59

So it's, you know, Seattle at this point, you know, the Seattle defense is entering that category where you're like, I'm just going to play them no matter what.

Speaker 300:46:09

As a PSD, yeah.

Speaker 200:46:10

Against anybody.

Speaker 300:46:11

Correct.

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Speaker 200:46:11

Because they're just that good. And they can make that, you know, they make one big play. Caleb's got a lot on his shoulders this week.

Speaker 300:46:19

This is brutal. I think this is brutal. We've been talking about the Vikings like, man, can you really start guys against the Vikings? They've just been shutting everybody down. The Seahawks are just as good. And this one is in Seattle. I mean, right now when you adjust for schedule, they're number two against quarterbacks, number one against wide receivers, number three against tight ends, number five against running backs.

Speaker 200:46:41

Would you be playing, like, were you saying you'd play Minnesota against Detroit? In Detroit? Because it's a, like, would you play the Minnesota defense?

Speaker 300:46:48

Yeah, they're one of those teams where right now I am willing to play them regardless of matchup.

Speaker 200:46:55

So where's the confidence level on Burden, Loveland, Odunsay, Swift?

Speaker 300:47:02

They're all, well, not all, sorry. Swift is a must play. Colston Loveland is a must play. And Burden and Odunsay are, I can't imagine I have someone else on my roster that I'm playing over them. Maybe Rome.

Speaker 200:47:19

Jason is the only pass catcher you care about for Seattle.

Speaker 300:47:23

Yeah.

Speaker 200:47:24

Emmanuel Wilson, the only running back you care about this week?

Speaker 300:47:27

Certainly, unless we hear that Price or Charbonnets are active.

Speaker 200:47:32

Would that change Emmanuel Wilson for you?

Speaker 300:47:33

It would. I like Emmanuel Wilson when he's getting 24 carries, but that's not going to happen if these other guys are active. I don't believe.

Speaker 200:47:41

Would you play Keenan Allen or Rome Odunsay?

Speaker 300:47:43

Keenan.

Speaker 200:47:44

Okay, I would too. I was making sure. Kyle, do we know if Jeffrey Simmons will be active? I assume not with the trade just happening.

Speaker 400:47:50

They're still discussing right now.

Speaker 200:47:52

Okay, that makes sense. Mike Vrabel, injury updates for you. AJ Brown is going to be listed as questionable. We'll see where he's at tomorrow before traveling to Miami. Travo, questionable. Brian Robinson Jr., backup for the Falcons, out. Shane Steichen confirming that Josh Downs' trade request was made. And despite that, he's going to play. And then Jonathan Taylor, Jonathan Taylor, despite the trade rumors, will be playing as well.

Speaker 300:48:17

Well, maybe they will highlight Josh Downs to get him that trade.

Speaker 200:48:20

This year has been punishment. Yes, it has. But we'll find out where Jesus.

Speaker 300:48:27

Or is the punishment like they actually force targets to Josh Downs? Yeah, I'll tell you what, getting a lot of Daniel Jones targets is a pretty big punishment this year.

Speaker 200:48:38

Man, it's been rough. All right, face-off time.

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Speaker 200:48:52

All right, you two gentlemen tied last week on the Sunday slate. We were 10 of 12, by the way.

Speaker 300:48:59

Yeah, we crushed.

Speaker 200:49:00

And then the tiebreaker ended up being.

Speaker 300:49:02

Tiebreaker didn't go as well. Don't worry about that.

Speaker 200:49:05

Mike did not win, therefore he is shamed.

Speaker 300:49:07

Yes.

Speaker 500:49:11

Wheel of Shame.

Speaker 200:49:18

Yeah.

Speaker 300:49:18

Although not having a mustache now for an extended period of time with just my chin beard. I mean, I'm wearing the shame right now, guys.

Speaker 200:49:28

We'll put another piece together.

Speaker 300:49:29

All right, that's fine. I hope it's a mask.

Speaker 200:49:31

Spin it.

Speaker 300:49:33

Spin that wheel. Wait, where's the wheel? Where's the wheel?

Speaker 200:49:37

Oh, I hear frantic.

Speaker 300:49:41

Let's draw a flag.

Speaker 200:49:41

Oh no.

Speaker 300:49:41

Wait, where did the substation go? Wait, were you in the bathroom?

Speaker 200:49:45

He was getting ready to bring the.

Speaker 300:49:47

Oh, okay.

Speaker 200:49:47

Yeah.

Speaker 300:49:48

He's doing his job.

Speaker 200:49:49

He's fine.

Speaker 300:49:51

Shall we.

Speaker 200:49:52

Oh, there it is.

Speaker 300:49:53

Oh, look at that thing.

Speaker 200:49:54

Oh, and it's a spooky wheel.

Speaker 300:49:56

Ooh, pumpkin.

Speaker 200:49:57

Zombie.

Speaker 300:49:57

Mummies boy. Disco Dracula. Tater.

Speaker 200:50:02

Tater.

Speaker 300:50:03

He's a potato.

Speaker 200:50:06

It's not complicated.

Speaker 300:50:07

It's pretty simple. It looks a lot like the Mona Lisa.

Speaker 200:50:10

There is a zipper on the front, Mike. Or on the back. If you need it. You know what I mean?

Speaker 300:50:15

I wish the Mona Lisa had a zipper.

Speaker 200:50:18

Yeah, you were having a hard time.

Speaker 300:50:20

Yeah, it feels like the zipper is a real good call on these type of costumes. Oh, you get armholes too. This is easy. This is easy. You are. Mike is a potato.

Speaker 200:50:31

I'm a potato. I told you. I've already got, well, you go to my camera.

Speaker 300:50:34

Can we put the.

Speaker 200:50:35

You can still see the.

Speaker 300:50:36

Can you put the Fred Durst hat on the potato?

Speaker 200:50:38

Oh, yeah.

Speaker 300:50:39

Yeah.

Speaker 200:50:40

I feel like it works. There we go. That's the potato.

Speaker 300:50:43

Come on. Oh, fully. I could see.

Speaker 200:50:48

Okay. All right, we are into our lineups here. Let's start at the quarterback position. Let's start with the potato.

Speaker 300:50:54

Oh, wait, wait. Hold on. I got.

Speaker 200:50:56

Okay, let's start with the Richard Simmons.

Speaker 300:50:58

All right. This is my Green Goblin. I'm going to go with Trevor Lawrence. More than 179 and a half passing yards.

Speaker 200:51:07

That's low.

Speaker 300:51:09

That is very low. It's a Green Goblin. And because it is me picking one of the easy Green Goblins.

Speaker 200:51:16

We know how that works.

Speaker 300:51:17

It will not happen.

Speaker 200:51:18

I have a Green Goblin at quarterback as well. It's Joshua Allen. 224.5 passing plus rushing yards. I'm taking the more.

Speaker 300:51:27

Okay. I have Dak Prescott against the Arizona Cardinals, but it's a little different. It's rushing yards. 9.5.

Speaker 200:51:36

Okay.

Speaker 300:51:37

Less.

Speaker 200:51:38

Taking the last.

Speaker 300:51:38

Oh, that makes so much more. I was so happy to hear that.

Speaker 200:51:41

Dak has not been running. He's been getting beat up a little bit, I think.

Speaker 300:51:45

I don't think you need to run against the Cardinals.

Speaker 200:51:46

Yeah, I don't think you need to.

Speaker 300:51:47

I was so happy to hear Dak's rush. I was like, he's not going to get it.

Speaker 200:51:51

No, I know.

Speaker 300:51:52

And then you tricked me.

Speaker 200:51:54

Jason.

Speaker 300:51:54

I'm spooky.

Speaker 200:51:55

Let's go to running back.

Speaker 300:51:56

Running back. I have Mr. Jalen Warren, who's been sensational.

Speaker 200:52:02

He's been so good.

Speaker 300:52:03

We've talked about, we think Pittsburgh's going to handle their business in this game. And if they do, 14 rushing attempts for Jalen Warren. I'm taking more. He's been getting more every game and should.

Speaker 200:52:13

I have Devontae Williams in the Cardinal game. 17 and a half rushing attempts. I'm taking the more. I think he's been getting a ton of work. I think 17 and a half is reachable.

Speaker 300:52:23

It's warming up in this potato.

Speaker 200:52:24

Imagine being in this.

Speaker 300:52:26

Well, imagine being in a big potato. I got Jalen Warren as well.

Speaker 200:52:32

You look so dumb.

Speaker 300:52:33

No, wait.

Speaker 200:52:33

I mean, cool.

Speaker 300:52:34

Thank you. I got Jalen Warren as well, but I went receiving yards. 23.5. We're going more.

Speaker 200:52:40

Okay. Wide receivers.

Speaker 300:52:41

Wide receivers. I'm going with Josh Downs. I think they highlight them. The matchup is.

Speaker 200:52:46

Oh, man.

Speaker 300:52:46

You're going narrative. The matchup is so easy. Come on, Josh Downs. Do something.

Speaker 200:52:53

All right, just.

Speaker 300:52:53

But he's Josh Downs.

Speaker 200:52:54

Look at the previous eight weeks.

Speaker 300:52:55

32 and a half receiving yards. Not much. You can do that on.

Speaker 200:52:59

Oh, there goes my hat.

Speaker 300:52:59

You know, on four receptions. I'm taking more.

Speaker 200:53:03

So you got receiving yards, 32.5. You've been pretty good at hitting the ones that don't sound like they're going to hit to us.

Speaker 300:53:10

Yeah.

Speaker 200:53:10

But then they all work out like Malachi Fields. Zay Flowers.

Speaker 300:53:15

I have Zay Flowers as well.

Speaker 200:53:16

I wonder what we did here. I went 8.5 targets. I'm taking the more.

Speaker 300:53:21

Oh, his targets, it was at eight and a half?

Speaker 200:53:23

Easy.

Speaker 300:53:24

Because I'm at receptions.

Speaker 200:53:25

Yeah.

Speaker 300:53:25

Six more.

Speaker 200:53:27

Okay.

Speaker 300:53:27

That'll be fine.

Speaker 200:53:28

If you get yours, I'll probably get mine.

Speaker 300:53:30

Yeah, I can't believe the differential.

Speaker 200:53:32

I get mine. You'll probably get yours.

Speaker 300:53:34

Any drop, any missed target, you're going to be like, ah, zip.

Speaker 200:53:37

Zay Flowers, a drop, Jason. Don't be stupid. Tight ends.

Speaker 300:53:42

Tight ends. I am going with Michael Mayer, who Halloween, 25 and a half receiving yards. He's been really involved. I'll go more than that.

Speaker 200:53:53

Oh, I have the most boring, I mean, spooky tight end here. Daniel Bellinger.

Speaker 300:54:00

What?

Speaker 200:54:01

Do you know who he plays for?

Speaker 300:54:02

No, I don't. Not the Giants?

Speaker 200:54:05

He plays for the Tennessee Titans, gentlemen.

Speaker 300:54:06

Okay.

Speaker 200:54:07

I told you, this is going to be the one that you will laugh. Daniel Bellinger, 6.5 longest reception. I'm taking less.

Speaker 300:54:17

That's my pick.

Speaker 200:54:19

How many receptions a game is he getting? About one.

Speaker 300:54:24

All right.

Speaker 200:54:25

Now, if he doesn't get a reception.

Speaker 300:54:27

Yeah, I win.

Speaker 200:54:28

Then he wins. Yeah.

Speaker 300:54:29

Oh, that's fantastic. My tight end is my Green Goblin. It is Brenton Strange. It is 14.5 receiving yards. More.

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Speaker 300:55:02

Death doesn't sweat, man. He glows.

Speaker 200:55:04

No, shout out to the deucers for putting this one together.

Speaker 300:55:06

I sweat.

Speaker 200:55:08

Yeah, you do.

Speaker 300:55:08

I get my sweat all over.

Speaker 200:55:09

To the old body. That is going to do it for today's episode. Enjoy the weekend. Stay safe, everybody.

Speaker 300:55:19

Can you guys imagine how good the Megalodon is going to be? And the Christmas show?

Speaker 200:55:23

Because of all this amazing extra work.

Speaker 300:55:24

This is incredible.

Speaker 200:55:25

It's so good. There comes some more flags.

Speaker 300:55:27

Oh, no.

Speaker 200:55:28

There's flags from the, oh, I'm going to get hit in the eyeball.

Speaker 300:55:32

Under attack.

Speaker 200:55:34

Goodbye, everybody.

Speaker 300:55:34

Under attack.

Speaker 200:55:37

I got it.

Speaker 300:55:37

I got the substance.

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