Transcript of Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)

What is up, daddy gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy, Daddy, Daddy, Daddy.

Olivia? Hi. Welcome to Call Her Daddy.

Hi. It's an honor to be here.

So it's summer. It's June 1st.

Yes, ma'am.

But you grew up in Florida. So was it summer, like, all the time, bud, for

you in your fall? I don't know. When I moved to Los Angeles, it was even weird. Like, I don't know, like, it getting cold at night. I'm like, what is this?

Like, I never fun fact, I never owned, like, a sweatsuit until I moved to Los Angeles. Like, I never owned sweatpants growing up. Like, what was it? Where was I gonna wear sweatpants to?

Okay. So did you because I'm thinking, like, this is basically kicking off the summer vibe for Call Her Daddy. Did you and your family like, what was your summer situation? Did you take trips and vacations during summer?

Yeah. Like, my family is huge on travel, so each summer we would go to a different country. So I'm very well versed in the traveling. That's like, why I live traveling so much. Right.

My last summer at home, we literally did, like, a European summer trip. It was a little weird, like, traveling with my family. Yeah. It's like we went to, like, all these crazy places, but I was, like, with my parents. I was, like, awesome.

Like, 17 years old. I'm, like, seeing you, like, attractive people, and I was, like, my mom is right

there. Like, I can't do this. Think about that of, like, when you're single and you kinda get to that age where you're traveling with your family and you're like, wait, I wish I was with my friends right now because I wanna, like, go to the bars and, like,

flirt me. Exactly. Exactly. But then it's like you're with your mom and you're just like, yeah. My mom's like, do you see anyone attractive?

And I'm like, yeah. Yeah. A lot of them. A lot of them, but I can't say anything.

Right. Well, I'm going to bring them back to the hotel room with my mom and my dad. We're all going to cozy up together. Like, what the fuck? Exactly.

That's such a good point. Okay. I completely forgot that concept and I can feel that for you. Okay. I need to know this because I actually feel like this tells a lot about someone.

Yeah. Are you the type of person that can sit on the beach with a book and relax and tan and knock it up? Are you the person that's like, guys, come play paddleball. Let's go in the ocean.

Let's go to the mountain. I feel like I'm like the second option. Like, I'm always like, can we go do something? Like, there's definitely my days where I'm like, okay, let's literally go sit on the beach. That's, I don't want to talk to anyone.

My phone's, like, we're on airplane mode all day, but then there's other times I'm like, I literally cannot sit still. I'm, like, can we and, like, in Florida, like, everyone has boats. So you go boating, you go wakeboarding, you go I water skied for, like, 9 years of my life, so it was like you were constantly doing something on top of, like, just sitting and reading. Like, that's, like, a California thing, I feel like.

That that you're actually so right. I feel like Florida and California are completely different. Yeah. And now you lived in both, which do you prefer?

Oh. 0. That's oh, wow. I've never actually been asked that question before. I always get, like, New York versus LA.

Mhmm. New York I mean, LA versus Florida. I would say I love Florida, like, as a state, like, the weather wise, like and kind of, like, my hometown's stunning. You know, don't really like what's going on with Florida right now. Mhmm.

And then here, I mean, I like the people more. I like how, like, open it is, how, like, I'm able to be who I am and, like, not get judged by anyone.

You were named a Sports Illustrated swimsuit rookie for the class of 2022. Thank you.

Congratulations. Thank you.

How does that feel?

It was absolutely insane. Like, I fell to the ground, like, crying. I was like, no. I was like, this is not real. Like, major imposter syndrome.

I was like, this is not real. And then 2 weeks later, I literally went to Montenegro. That's where we shot it, which is, like, a really small place near Albania, and, like, you travel by yourself. Like, it's, like, a full deal. And I'm, like, 19 years old, so I was like, I've traveled by myself, but, you know, like, New York to LA, you know, like, LA to Mexico, like, stuff like that, but never, like, a 14 hour flight.

Like, I stopped in Turkey for a little bit. Like, no idea where I was going. I was like, I could really get lost right now.

Wait. And you're by yourself?

Yeah. Like, coming back, I flew back with everyone because I was the last girl to shoot, but, like, going there, like

I can't even imagine going by myself at 19 years old to a foreign country also to prepare for 1 of the biggest moments of your career. It's fucking huge.

I was sitting in the airport just like, where am I? This is not real. I was like, what am I doing with my life?

Okay, so you show up, and I was thinking, like, okay, obviously, I'm sure there were, like, so many glamorous moments of shooting this, but we need to hear, Olivia, the not so glamorous moments. Like, what was an unglamorous moment with you that you were like, oh my god. People would never anticipate a reality

like this? So it's swimsuits. Right. So you think you're going and shooting somewhere, like, warm. Right.

No. It was, like, October time, so in the place that we were, it was, like, 40 to 50 degrees, and you're in, like, thong bikinis, and you're, like, shooting in the water, and it's, like, freezing, and you're just, like, sitting in there and you're, like, shaking. Like, I have so many funny photos of me, like, you know, like, when you're, like, in between changing and I'm, like, in this huge, like, robe jacket situation, and that was definitely a moment where I was like, nobody would ever guess that we're, like, freezing in all of these photos.

Oh, no. Because when you look at them, you're like, oh, my God. Like, it makes me wanna be on a beat. Yeah.

But I was like, oh, no. I was freezing. Like, I was, like, shaking there. And, like, they probably have to, like, edit out my goosebumps because it's, like, so bad.

K. Well, no 1 can tell that you were cold in the photo, so I have to give you props. Your, like, teeth are chattering and all of a sudden you're like.

Yeah. It's like it's like you're There was the last, shot that we did, I got, like, soaking wet and we were, like, on this ledge kind of situation where, like, water was, like, crashing on it, but it wasn't, like, in the water. It was kind of odd. But I was, like, laying down in it and the sun had already set. So there was, like, not really any sun.

It was, like, very, like, glistening vibes. But I kid you not, it was probably, like, 30 degrees out, maybe 40, and the water was, like, absolutely freezing. And you're just getting, like, splashed with water. You're sitting there, you're trying to be, like, super sexy and, like, so glamorous, but you're like, I, like, literally was, like, sitting there, like, trying to, like, roll around on this, like, block of cement, like, trying to be sexy, and it was, like, definitely a moment where I was, like, I really hope this comes out well. Congratulations.

I mean, it's so cool to sit with you and hear the behind the scenes also because it's such a cool moment. Also, especially because you're 19, Olivia. Is your family so stoked? Or are they

My family doesn't really process anything. Like, even the way I moved out, I was just kind of, like, I'm gonna go to Los Angeles for 2 weeks, and then I'll be back. And then I kinda just came here, and I never left.

How many siblings do you have?

I have 1 older sister. Okay. Blessing. Love her.

So you're like the baby that just left? Mhmm. Good for you. Okay. Well, you not only are you blowing up in the modeling world, but you've blown up on TikTok.

Yes.

So we're gonna play a little game Okay. Called TikTok made me do it. Okay. Okay. A trend you've tried because of TikTok.

Emily Marico's, like, salmon avocado have you not tried it? No. She did, like, salmon, rice, avocado, and, like, the seaweed packets, and then you, like, mix it all together, and you, like, make your own salmon roll.

Okay. So now I need you to go try it. Okay. Something you've bought because of TikTok.

You would think, growing up in Florida, I've always been blonde, that I would know what purple shampoo was. And then I got on TikTok, and I got on TikTok right when, like, the purple shampoo thing was a trend, and I was like, what is this? Stop. And I went and it changed my life. I was like So good.

So that was definitely something I was like, oh,

thanks TikTok. That is such a good investment, it's my best friend. Okay, a random fact that you've learned from TikTok.

This one's weird. I also don't know if it's true. I heard that your wingspan is how tall you are. But I'm 5 9, and I feel like my wingspan is not 5 foot 9.

Okay. After this interview, I'm gonna get, like, 10.

Wanna make sure I'm gonna do the

entire no. That's actually a I've heard that too, I think, and I don't know if I believe it. Okay. A song you've added to your playlist because TikTok.

All of my music comes from TikTok, first of all. Recently, I've put this song on repeat every single day for, like, it's probably, like, a week and a half now. It's called, like, 10 Things I Hate About You by Leah Kate. I think she was just on tour with Madison Beer. I think she was, like, the girl who opened up for her, and her that song just went, like, insanely viral on TikTok.

And I, like, see everyone, and I'm like, okay. Let me listen to it. Let me see if it's, like, the hype jamming in my car every day.

So good. Okay. Somewhere you've went because of TikTok?

Hawaii. Hawaii is my favorite place, and I feel like Italy, like, I see Italy all over my For You page. I wanna go this summer so badly.

Something you've become self conscious of because of

TikTok. Okay. Growing up, I was pretty confident. I was very independent. Once I got on TikTok, I got very insecure about, like, my boobs and my body because I would just get, like, the most just meanest comments about it, and I would just start, like, overthinking.

I'd be like, wow. Like, I always, like, love my body. Like, looking up to, like, models and whatnot, and I was like, why is everyone so I, you know, created boundaries, and I, like, turn off my comments for, like, a solid, like I think it was, like, 2 ish months. And then, eventually, like, I got more, like, secure with it.

Have you ever responded back to, like, a troll and then regretted what you said?

Not to a troll, but I actually used to be exactly like that. Like, in high school because I was, like, independent, like, I was very much, like, a I'm fighting for myself person. So not that I was a bitch, but I was, like, a little Yeah. It's really kind of like, like, why are you talking about me? Like, especially girls in, like, high school, I'd be like, I would confront them.

I'd be like, why are you talking, like, crap about me right now? So I feel like almost when I started social media, I had to, like, create, like, a boundary. I'm like, okay, like, you can't respond. You know, people in my life helped me a lot with that because I'll be like, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna blow up on them and they would be like, calm down.

It's okay. Talk to my therapist. And I'm like, okay.

It's hard. It's, like, it definitely takes a different level of self restraint because you don't know the person. And so I guess that's why it's so easy for them to be mean to you because they don't know you, and then you reply back. And I've done it before where I'm like, that was dumb. Why did I give into that?

Yes. And I now don't do it either. Okay. Today is June 1st, the first day of Pride Month. You've been so open about your sexuality.

Yes. What are your plans to celebrate Pride this year?

I just love Pride Month so much, but I would say, so last Pride Month, I came out, you know, on June 1st as bisexual, so I feel like kind of Pride Month last year was me kind of figuring out what it was like to be bisexual. Like, being on social media and being like, wow. People are so accepting. And then you're, like, also dealing with, like, the not so nice people, like, in the streets or when you go to the parades, like, dealing with, like, you know, the mean people and just being like I feel like this year, I'm definitely there's, West Hollywood Pride, June 3rd, and then there's obviously New York Pride. I think New York Pride is better personally, so definitely it will be then.

That's so exciting for you that you can fully, like, lean in this year. Let's go back to the moment you came out. Right? Okay. How did you tell your friends and family?

I called my mother, and there was a lot of moments where I was, like, I'm just gonna do it. Like, spur of moments, I was like, I just need to tell her, like, it's it's such a secret, and you kind of just hold it in for months months that you're like, okay. I'm gonna do this. My mom was coming to visit me in 2 weeks, and I was kind of lying to her about the relationship I was in. I was, you know, didn't really know exactly how to be like, hey, mom.

I'm in a relationship with a female. And I eventually called her up 1 day and was just, like, spit it out and, like, gave 20 facts about the LGBTQ community and about my relationship, and she just was like, okay. Like, cool. And I was like, okay. Yeah.

Bye. And then we, like, didn't talk for 2 weeks, and then she came and visited me, and she was, like, totally okay with it. And I was like, oh, this is awesome.

Did she tell the rest of your family for you?

I'm assuming because I never told my dad. I feel like I kinda came out with my dad by, like, sending him I got him a shirt that said my daughter is gay, and I shipped it to him because it was pride month. And I was like, oh, I feel like I should get my family some rainbow swag and just bought him, like, my daughter's gay shirt. And he, like, sent me a picture of him, like, smiling with him on, and I'm just like, okay. He knows.

Like, he knows. Like, that was kind of, like, me coming out to him.

I love the not so subtle gesture. It's so baller. You're like, here you go, dad. Yeah. If mom hasn't told you already Yeah.

Let's get into it.

Hopefully. And then my dad has always been, like, love whoever you want. Like, I don't care. And I was, like, oh. Cool.

That's and was your sister same like, did you send her a shirt? I just You're like, no.

No. I called her because this was, like, right when we were getting close again, and I was, like, oh, I feel like I should, like, call up my sister and be like, hey. By the way, like, you're probably gonna see it on social media soon. So and she, like, screamed. She was so excited for me.

She was like, no way. I'm so excited for you, blah blah blah. I was like, oh, perfect reaction. I was like, thank you. Thank you, sister.

That's why I appreciate you sharing that just because I know there's probably a lot of people that could be listening that are also going through what you went through a year ago. Right? Like, they haven't come out yet. Maybe they don't know how to do it.

It's so hard. Like, you have to really figure out what works best for you. Like, with my dad, like, I could I tried telling him probably, like, 20 times. Like, there would be times where I'd be at home, and I'd be like, okay. Go up.

Tell him. He's sitting there. He's not doing anything. Just tell him. I was like, I couldn't do it.

So, I mean my dad had a very funny relationship. You know, it's like a lot of dad jokes. So, I was like, I feel like that's kind of something that's funny that he would look at it and he would laugh, but he would be like, oh, wait. Okay. Like, okay.

Like, this is

Oh, that's cute. It's almost like to like, look at each relationship and cater, like, how you feel and what your relationship with them is and, like, feel safe in the way that you've always felt safe with, like, your dad humor.

Yeah. And with my mom, it's like we're deeper, so it's just kind of like me just telling her that was like she obviously knew that took a lot for me to say to her, so she was like, okay.

Like, okay. Was your mom the first person you came out to? Well, I guess not because you had a girlfriend at the time.

Yeah. I would say, like, I always kind of knew and I feel like I had 1 best friend where we, like, kind of came out to each other because we were like, I think I am, but, like, I'm not sure. And I'd also I was the type of person that was like, I don't wanna come out until until I, like, 1000% know that I am because there's always, like, the possibility where it really gets down to it that you're, like, oh, I don't think I could do that. And, so I would say them or just kind of, like, I mean, my best friend right now, Emma, we, like, would always have conversations. We would be like, I think that I am, but I'm not sure.

Like, I

think and then I met my first girlfriend and I was like, okay. I am.

How did you deal with those, like, internal feelings of struggling to to figure it out

for yourself? Oh. I was very homophobic towards myself. So even when I was out, I was like, no. I'm not.

Like, I don't know. There was always, like, the back end thoughts. It's kinda like being insecure. It's like you're confident with it, but I was also like, is this, like, is this bad? Like, is something bad gonna happen?

Like, if this isn't okay, like, I'd get, like, random comments, and I'd be, like, really overthinking it. So I would say just kind of like, for me, it was, like, I needed to be in a relationship with a female to be, like, okay. I'm 1,000 percent in this. I came out and, like, you know, really realized and, like, so many things made sense. Like, when I was younger, I was, like, oh, that's the feeling that I had with that person.

Okay.

Got it. So it then it kinda that's amazing to also hear, like, then it started to all kinda click for you. But I love how you also compare it to, like, that insecurity feeling of, like, the unknown and, like, not knowing how to handle that. I think everyone can relate to that feeling. What is the biggest thing that you've learned about yourself over the past year?

Definitely, when I came out, I came out as bisexual and I was in a really long term relationship. And then I got out of it and was able to experiment with all kinds of people. And, I mean, I'm so happy, but I figured out that I was pansexual, and I came out with that in the past year. So I feel like that was kind of something, probably the biggest thing that I kind of realized about myself in

the past year. Can you talk about, just for anyone that doesn't understand the difference between being, bisexual and pansexual? Yeah.

So the difference between it is bisexual is just liking boys and girls or, you know, men and female. And with being pansexual, it's, like, anyone. And I would say almost with being pan, for me, it's like I care more about the vibe between the 2 people and, like, the connection that we have. And, you know, it's also being open to talking to nonbinary people, to be open to talking to transgender people. And I feel like for me, like, I'm so open to anything, so I feel like that's just kind of when I met someone who was non binary.

And I was like, oh, I really like you. I was like, okay. So it's I feel like it's honestly very similar, and I think when people think it's so much more common than people realize.

And I think it's great when anyone is, like, speaks up about it because it's not their responsibility to educate us, but, like, it is our responsibility to listen. Yeah. Are there any pansexual celebrities that you admire?

Okay. Madison Bailey. She's an Outer Banks. Love her.

Obsessed.

When I found out she's pansexual, I feel like I loved her 10 times more because I was like, yes. There's Cara Delevingne. Obviously, I think she's absolutely stunning. And I feel like just also, like, with being pansexual, it's like you really just don't care. Like, with I mean, with bisexual, I feel like I don't really care either, but it's like you really don't care.

Like, it is purely an emotional relationship when you are with dating someone who is pansexual. You know, before I even came out, I was, to the t, focused on being, like, a male's ideal woman, and I, like, I achieved it. I was the blonde, long haired, super glammed out, every single day girl. And, you know, like, I had males' attention 247, but I was like it really came down to it. It was all a validation thing.

It was like, I just wanted them to call me pretty so I felt validated, but it was like, I didn't like them. So I was like, that's kind of my journey with figuring out that I was bisexual because I was like, oh, you're telling me you're pretty makes me feel really good, but then I'm like, I don't like kissing you. I don't like doing this. I'm like,

You're raised to be like, so which boy do you like? And even aside from the sex part of it, you're more just like, oh, so I'm supposed to like a boy, and hopefully they like me.

Exactly. And it starts with the hopefully they like me part is really where it gets in, like, your brain. Because, honestly, like, I think, like, we like, women are pieces of art, and we deserve for the boys to be like, oh, do are they going to like me back? Not us being like, does he like me? Oh my gosh.

Is he gonna text me back? Oh my gosh. Does he wanna go on a second date? It's like, no. Do like, you should be asking yourself back.

Do you

like him? Yeah. That's all that matters. And I

feel like that's almost like a question that I'll start asking myself more recently. It's like, I'll notice about myself being, like, oh, like, why aren't they texting me back? But I'll be, like, hold on. Do I even like them as a person? I'm, like, I'll calm down and I'll be, like, put my phone away.

I'll, like, sit in the mirror for, like, 20 minutes, and I'll be, like, I'll literally write down all the green flags, all the red flags. And I'm, like, I'll come to a conclusion. I'll be, like, I probably don't like them. I just crave it.

Point when you're dating, it really is interesting. I feel like I saw a TikTok on this recently of someone being, like, you're constantly looking at the person that you're on a 1st date, 2nd date with, and you're hoping that they're gonna like you, and it's like you leave that first date. Did you like them? Yeah. Did you like their personality?

How did you feel about that?

People forget that, that you need to go home and be like, are they the type of person that I wanna spend the next years with?

Or do I just like the validation?

Exactly. And I

feel like the attention.

That's something that I struggle, like, till this day. I'll be like, oh my gosh. Like, I liked them so much, kind of. Do they like me back? Yeah.

And then I'll sit there, and I'll be like, I'll talk about it with my mom because we talk all of the time, and I'll be like, yeah. I'm kind of like how they made me feel, but I'm kinda just craving the validation right now. So I'm like, I need to cut things off and just stop this here.

I think that's very relatable. Okay. How has being open about who you really are affected your mental health?

It affected it amazingly. As before, I was, like, living in a secret kind of, and I, like, wasn't able to, like, tell the people in my life, like, what was going on. I'd be like, yeah. Works good. So I feel like when I came out, it just helped it tremendously.

I was able to be so open about who I liked, what I liked, going on dates, like, telling people everything. And I feel like, also, just with myself, like, kind of accepting it made just something in my brain click, and it clicked, and it made me so much happier on, like, the day to day basis.

Okay. I remember lightly seeing there were, like, ridiculous rumors on TikTok that you came out for attention. People were saying 1 of your relationships was fake. Why do you think that happened?

So this is also struggles. This is something that I struggle with on the day to day is, like, I'm very hyper femme and, you know, looking at me, this is 1 thing that, like, I eventually wanna change in the LGBTQ community is, like, being femme and being gay is a very common thing, and I think it's why a lot of girls are scared to come out because they're like, oh, but I don't look the certain way. But it's like, there's no certain way that you have to look. Like, I dress like this every day. I do my makeup.

I do my hair, and I'm I'm very gay. So people just also didn't wanna accept it, like, because I was catering to the men audience so much that they were just kind of almost, I feel, like, hurt by it, and they were just like, no. You're not. Like, you're not gay. And I was like, wait.

Yeah. I am. I was like, hold on. I was like, this was a lot. I can assure none of my relationships have ever been fake, especially because I'm very, like, emotionally invested in people that, like, when people would say it was fake, I would be like,

no. Yeah.

I don't even have the mental capacity to, like, have a have a fake relationship right now. So

How has being open about your sexuality affected your friendships?

So, in my hometown, it was a little hard. I lost some friends there just because lack of education. People just don't wanna believe or they just are like, wait, that doesn't make sense. Or it comes down to, like, the wait. Were you attracted to me thing?

And I was, like, no. I wasn't. Like, just wanted to let you know that, like, I am in a relationship with a female or I'm bisexual or whatever it would be. So I would say a little hard in my hometown. But

Is that most of it when they would would they say to you, like, oh, are you attracted to me? Like, did anyone ever say

to you? Fully all of the time, and I'd be like, I think you would know if I would be attracted to you. Like, I would flirt with you or something of the sort. I'm also not 1 to, like, be attracted to somebody and not say anything. Like, if I like you, like, I'm going to flirt with you, and I'm going to, like you know, I'm very, like, honed down on it.

So but in Los Angeles, like, I lost no friends. Like, it was kind of awesome because I even got the opportunity to make friends with other people in the LGBTQ community by being open about it and just being like, oh, like, oh, it's, like, kinda something to bond about.

I also love the confidence of you being like, you know what? I'm gonna own it. I'm gonna give you guys another chance. I'm gonna explain it to you, and you can take it for what you want it to be.

It's lack of education. They don't know. And it's like, maybe they are too, and they just don't know. And just the lack of experience as well.

So in terms of relationships, everyone is always writing into me, like, Alex, give us advice on long distance relationships. How the fuck do I maintain this? What do I do? Is it worth it? Should I stay with this person?

You've had a long distance relationship. How did you manage to stay close with someone who lives so far away?

Well, I've had numerous long distance relationships and it's hard. Like, I feel like with myself, every relationship I get into is long distance, even my friendships. All my friendships are long distance. It's, like, it's kinda weird to say, but it's, like, I'll go 2 months without seeing my friends and I'll be, like, love you guys. Like, I'll I FaceTime them.

I think FaceTime is probably the best advice that I could give and, like, schedule times to FaceTime. So it's not just like a, oh, they're not answering me. It's like, no. We're gonna go get smoothies together via FaceTime once a week or twice a week or however much you wanna, like, have that communication with them. I feel like that would be the best.

I also don't strongly recommend long distance even though, like, I can't say that because I'm literally that would be me.

I feel like, Olivia, remember this for the next 1. I won't recommend it.

But it's like regardless, like, anything with me, it's like being bicoastal. It's like, well, I could have a relationship in New York, but then I come to LA and it's gonna be long distance, or I go to, I travel, besides just New York and LA, I'm constantly in different places, so I feel like I don't recommend it, but it's also kind of inevitable in certain situations.

I do appreciate, though, I have did the same thing when I was somewhat long distance. Scheduling those FaceTime dates, you naturally would be probably going on a date this Thursday night. Like, hey, look, have a date night FaceTime date and schedule that time. That's really good advice.

Yeah, definitely. And then you guys can cook dinner on the phone together and, you know, like, eat dinner, and it's, like, a 3 hour FaceTime call, but it's like and people

will be like,

oh, that's so stupid. But I'm, like, honestly, it's not because I haven't seen them in 2 weeks, and I, like, wanna tell them about work or whatever it would be.

You think being in a long distance relationship makes it more difficult to live in the present moment?

1000%, yes. It's I mean, I'm sure you know. It's like you're constantly my screen time was, like, probably doubled when I was in any long distance relationship, and because I'm always texting the person just being like, hey. Like, I'm thinking about you. Like, you're at an event, and I feel like at events, like, it's it's work.

So you're there and you're trying to be on your a game, but then you're like, oh, I haven't answered them in 5 hours. Like, I need to, like, text someone. I even got down to the point where I was texting them probably every 20 minutes, and it was like, okay, Olivia, get off your phone. You're at work right now. Stop.

That's why they are so hard is because I'm thinking about it's like you can feel guilty, you can start to feel insecure, Like, what is the other person doing? Exactly. Because my also thing is I will, like, post on my social

media and not answer anyone, and people get so offended by that. And I'm like, no. No. No. No.

Like, it's it's not I

haven't even opened my text.

Yeah. Like, all of my text messages are I haven't answered my mom today. Like, it's it's not a personal thing. It's like, oh, I, like, had to post this at this time, or I'm in the car and I'm taking a selfie. Like, I'm not answering text messages.

Like, no. I'm taking a picture. I'm pushing my story. Like, it's not that deep.

I've had, in long distance, when you know they're going out and you're not. And you're like, I'm sitting in my pajamas with my pimple cream on, and you see that they're, like, going to the club. And you want to not be, like, over the top because you don't want to trigger them of, like, oh, god. I have my, like, crazy girlfriend being, like, well, you're gonna text me when you're at the club, so you're trying to be chill, but then you're also, like, making me feel secure.

Oh, what's going on? Exactly. And I feel like that was honestly probably the hardest thing, like, just in, like, a long distance relationship in general. Like, I've gone, like, months without seeing the person. It's like, well and I go out, like, a decent amount for, like, events and work and dinners and not being on my phone, and it's like, oh, crap.

Like, I don't ever want them to feel insecure because they shouldn't.

Was there anything ever you or a partner did that was super cute to keep it fun and surprise 1 another?

Oh. 0. I personally hate surprises. I've never been a surprising person. I'm like, no.

Like, just tell me. Like, if you're planning on coming to see me, just tell me. I feel like just other cute things, like, just, like, fun dates. Like, I feel like more recently, I have a rule. I will not go to dinner with someone.

Like, you wanna take me on a date? We are not going to dinner. Like, let's go do something. Like, I had this guy, I told him that, and I was like, okay. Cool.

And he was like, okay. I have a crazy day planned. Like, let's do this. And I was like, okay. He was like, wear, like, athletic leisure.

So I was like, okay. Maybe we're going to go work out. I don't know. Like, boxing, something. And I he picks me up, and we're in the car for maybe, like, 45 minutes.

And I'm like, oh, like, where are we I also lived in Calabasas. So we're, like, driving further. So I'm like, where are we going? Also, first date. So I'm like, this man could kill me.

Oh, yeah. Olivia, I'm like, are you gonna die? Like, what?

And all of a sudden, he, like, looks at me, and he's like, we're going skydiving. What? I was, like, I'm scared of heights. I you I probably should have told you this before that but I am, like, deathly afraid of heights. Skip forward.

I actually ended up getting out of the car and Ubering home and I was, like, I never talked to him again. I was, like, nope. Like, this is this is that was kinda, like, the biggest red flag that, like, you were gonna take me skydiving.

To take someone skydiving on a first fucking date when you've never met in person, how did you meet that person?

I met them because I used to live in a content house, so our content house would have, like, events.

Yeah. Yeah.

So it was, like, an event that we were having, and we just had, like, mutual friends. And I was like, oh, like, you're cool, like, and he's very, like, spontaneous, so I was, like, okay. Like, I need to date someone that's spontaneous. So I was, like, okay. Cool.

Like, got it. Like, let's do this. And then He

just took it too far.

Just went, woah, right over his head, like, the spontaneous thought.

So you just said, hey. I'm not down, and you just Ubered back.

I just was kind of like, can you pull up

your feet? Did he go skydiving?

I don't think so. I don't I don't I, like, literally, like, never answered him after that. I was like, cyanada, dude.

Okay. Also because you're afraid of heights?

Yeah. Like, no. Mhmm. I was like, I'm already deadly scared of planes even as much as I am on them. I'm terrified of planes.

So I was like, the fact that you just asked me to jump out of 1 with you, I don't even trust you. I don't even know you. I'm like, we're not even dating. I'm like, hold on. This is It can

be romantic if you're with, like, the love of your life, and you're like, let's do this, and who knows what's going to happen. It's like, I don't know you. Yeah.

I was like, this is a lot for me. I was like, get me out of this car right now.

I'm not risking my life with a random. Exactly. Okay. So with regard to all the long distance relationships you've had, did most of them end because of the long distance?

I feel like it would be a factor in it, but, like, never it was never, like, the pure reason that I was, like, we're breaking up because of distance. Like, I should have never I should have cut the relationship off when it became long distance in any relationship just because it made things way harder than it needed to be. That's why I don't recommend long distance, but you know?

Do you think there's an expiration date to, like, all long distance relationships?

I would say, like, max, like

I mean,

it also depends what kind of long distance you are because I know friends that live in Los Angeles and then, like, the other significant other lives in Vegas. And it's like, that's such a quick flight back and forth. They see each other, like, all the time. But it's, like, also for me, it's like, if I were in Los Angeles and I was dating someone in New York, it's like, first of all, different time zones. Mhmm.

Also, I'm kind of not just in 1 specific time zone. I'll be like, when I was in my Sports Illustrated, like in Montenegro, like, the time difference the time difference, I think, was like 9 hours.

Yeah.

And it's like, I don't even talk to you the whole day because when you're sleeping, I'm awake, and when I'm awake, you are sleeping.

Or even when people are going to different colleges from each other, and they're like, should I break up with this person? I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer, but probably Probably. Because it's like, you're not going to be present. And we're too young to not be present in our lives. And that was my

biggest thing. It was,

like, I was missing out on all these crazy opportunities

because I was, like, oh, no. My partner won't feel comfortable with this. Like, I'm so sorry. And it's happened numerous times with numerous partners. It's just kind of like a me thing that I feel like almost I need to work on, but but you don't live in the present at all.

Yeah. Okay. So more general dating questions. Do you consider flirting cheating?

1000%, why are you flirting with someone else?

If your partner has never posted any pictures of you on social media, do you consider that a red flag?

Any, like, if they haven't posted any, I think it's a red flag, what those were saying. I also do think it's a really red flag if they're posting you a lot and, like, consistently, just from, like, my own, like, knowledge of, like, things that have happened. I'm like, okay. Know what I'd like, know what I don't like. So I feel like that's, like, moving forward.

I'm like, Yeah.

Like, don't

Why are we doing that too much?

Like, a camera in my face in the morning? Yeah. Like,

yeah. Maybe not. Yeah.

Okay. Is it okay to break up with someone through a text message?

Yes. And people are so controversial. Do you think

do you I I wasn't expecting you to be so definitive. No.

No. Okay. Thank you. I'm 1000%. I have broken up with people over text message.

I have been broken up with numerous times over text message. I've been broken up over an email before. Like, I've been broken up on Instagram DMs, Snapchat, like, anything that it's, like I don't know. Just take, like, any form of social media. Also, when you're long distance, it's, like, am I really gonna trail this person on for the next, like, month until I see them and then break up with them?

Like, no. Like, then that becomes messy, and then there's, like

But maybe could you call them?

Well, yeah. Oh, yeah. Like, also that.

Right.

I've, like, called people. Like, yeah. Like, I've done that. Like, that's

like email. The email. What is the subject line of a breakup email?

We're in the

Sorry. Sorry. Goodbye. Have a nice life.

Yeah. But Yeah. That's rough.

It's rough, but I get what you're saying. Like, in some circumstances, it could be Mhmm. Maybe justified. I think an Instagram DM is a little aggressive, Olivia.

Yeah. Well, I didn't do that. I just got I got broken up with over an Instagram DM, and I was like, this was harsh. I was like, okay.

Yeah. That is harsh. That's really harsh.

Can you unsend it so I don't have to see anymore?

Okay. Which is worse for you? A heated argument with your partner in front of, a, your parents, b, your friends, or, c, your people you work with?

Oh, definitely the people I work with because I feel like with my family and friends, I can justify it and be like, no, I swear they're a good person. Work people? They're like, we saw that? Uh-uh. They're done.

Next. No. No. No. You are not going back to this person.

We see their true colors. We want what's best for you. No. I was like

I kind of agree and it's kind of, like, embarrassing. Like, again, you can justify if, like, it's a dumb fight and you go to your parents and you're like, hey. We're having an off day. To the work people you work with, you're like, I don't even I we shouldn't even have to be having this conversation because this is work and, like, why are we now why did you just watch me fight with my partner?

Like, not a huge deal. Awkward now.

Totally. Okay. So you being on social media so often, I think, like, everyone that is on social media I definitely think in the pandemic, it was, like, kind of almost not I would never say healthy, but, like, it was helping a lot of people with loneliness and TikTok came about because everyone was finding almost a community through there. Now I think a lot of people are back to talking about the negative effects of social media, and there's a lot of, like, detrimental things to our mental health that come from it. Can you talk about the boundaries that you personally have had to set for yourself with social media?

I started using the feature on your phone where it's, like, the do not disturb where you get, like, 0 notifications. It's awesome.

It's so good.

People hate me because I don't answer, but I'm, like, like, I'll and you don't even get phone calls, so, like, my phone is not buzzing at all. I'm like, this is awesome. Like, I'm not nobody's trying to contact me. All of a sudden I look at my phone and there's, like, 20 missed calls, and I'm like, damn it. So I feel like boundaries wise, I mean, even when I turned off my comment section for that time because I couldn't read people making fun of my body anymore.

And I feel like just it came down to a point where I now have, like, very strong boundaries with me on social media and certain things I'll talk about and, like, bring up and be like, hey. That wasn't cool, but kind of just, like, genuinely doing that.

Yeah. I think I mean, I don't have my comment section on anymore, and I think, like, a lot of people still to this day are like, oh, you can't take the heat. And I'm like, it's actually not it was actually hurting my feelings. Yeah. That it You were just like that shit.

Helping my life. So I turned them off. And now, I think

I've gotten to the point where I'm

like, why yeah. Why would I, like, go back? Because I don't really wanna hear and I do love when people are so nice and they're, like, open your comments so we can, like, hype you up. Like, you look great. But I'm, like, you know what?

It's, like, the negative validate or the negative comments, like, also sometimes how much positive validation we get on the Internet is not normal also. Yeah. So kind of like I I think it was probably a good idea for a moment to, like, step back because it's affecting

you. Fully, fully.

What is your advice for people who are bombarded with images on social media that make them feel bad about themselves?

I was literally talking, like, I was dealing with this 2 mornings ago. It was I mean, I feel like every morning I wake up and I scroll through my Instagram, and I'm like, oh, what's going on? And I feel like I get bombarded. I mean, I follow all the amazing models and, like, don't get me wrong, love women. Literally love women.

But sometimes it, like, really messes with your head because you're like, oh, like, like you were talking about, like, oh, my stomach doesn't look like that. Oh, my boobs don't look like that. Oh, like, they're working out right now. Oh, my gosh. I haven't worked out today.

Like, I need to go work out. Things like that. And I feel like my advice were to be social media, that 1 picture is literally so constructed. It's by a really good photographer. You have your hair done.

You have your makeup done. You have your nails done. That's not what I look like 247. Even right now, I look like this maybe, like, I don't even know how like, not that often. Like, I was doing my makeup and I was like, wow, I haven't put, like, a face of makeup on in, like, few weeks.

I'm like, this is weird. But just kind of like people present themselves as like the best possible version of themselves. So I feel like on social media, you just gotta remind yourself and be like, okay, this was a split second on 1 time of their day. It's not real.

Yeah. Everyone is going to present their perfect life and even think, if you have an insecurity, think about yourself. What did you just post? Yeah. A perfect looking girl.

Exactly. That's even the part that messes me in my head because I'm like, I'm doing the same thing. I'm falling in the trap. I'm posting these beautiful photos that I get back, and I'm, like, oh my gosh. I'm so excited to post this, but it's probably detrimental to, like, other people.

And I'm, like, ah, so I get in my head about it. I'm, like, I don't want it. Like, I'm kind of on, like, a boycotting Instagram right now, because I don't wanna fall into that, even though I, like, very much am guilty of already doing it. But

Yeah. It's like a vicious cycle. Like, I don't post as much as I used to, definitely, because I keep having to remind myself, like, wait. Why am I posting this again? Like, what who is this for?

Yeah. Like What's the point of this? Yeah.

So summer like I said, wrapping it up, summer is upon us. Olivia, do you have advice for women that are just, like, trying to go live their best life in summer but maybe are feeling a little insecure or feeling like they're not ready to, like, get out there and, like, live their best life because they're they're seeing things on social media and they're like, I can't live up to that.

I mean, I feel like, honestly, my biggest thing is, like, just do it. I've even noticed when I first moved to New York, I had 0 friends. I knew nobody besides my agent. And I was in this pickle for an awkward 3 months because I didn't know anyone. And I was like, I have no friends.

I'm nervous to do anything. And then I just started doing stuff and I would go to the gym and I would walk and go get coffee, and I would honestly go to Central Park and walk around. And it's like, just you'll be at the hot dog stand, and you'll see the girl right next to you, and she looks cool. And I'm like, hey, what's up? My name is Olivia.

And it's kinda like that situation, it's way easier than people process. And, yes, it's very anxiety filled, but once you kinda like turn it, as in, especially New York City,

like I think that's great advice. So many women write in being like, I'm in a new city. How do I make friends? And, like, the fact that you're like yeah. You literally just turned to someone like, hey.

I'm Olivia. Like Yeah. You're kinda right. Like, a lot of these cities specifically like, I know people have moved to Austin, Nashville. Like, so many people are moving to these cities, Chicago, and they're like, got no friends.

Like, but you're we're all saying it. So just maybe try and introduce yourself and see what happens. I'm so

excited for summer. Like, I'm going to Egypt. I'm like

Olivia's going to Egypt, and I'm gonna be on my couch watching your Instagram stories. Instagram stories.

No. You have not.

I'm so excited for you. Honestly, congratulations on everything. Like Thank you. Getting that swimsuit like, it's just truly like, I grew up looking at that shit.

Oh, me too. I don't believe it so. I dream. I'm like, wait. I saw myself, and I was like, that's Nope.

That's not me. That's not me. But mom, like, have it in my I printed it out in, like, the huge form, and I put it in my apartment, so, like, I can look at it and be like, that is me. Damn. Remember that, Olivia.

Yes.

Happy pride month. Thank you, Olivia, for coming on.

Thank you for having

me.