Transcript of Hailey Bieber (FBF)

What is up, daddy gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy, Daddy, Daddy.

Okay. Hello.

Hailey Bieber, welcome to Call Her Daddy.

Hi.

How did you pick your outfit for today?

I just wanted to feel comfortable and I feel like I just wanted to wear, like, jeans and a t shirt and be cozy. Little but, like, still cute.

Mhmm.

Still, like, a little

vibe. I feel like that's your entire vibe is always being comfortable looking Mhmm. And then having, like, a tinge of, like, super, like, sexy and cute, but, like, still, like, you can I

can't stand being uncomfortable? I'll, like, I'll do it for a certain amount of Time. Sorry. Amount of time. She's burping.

Yeah. Like, I'm throwing up. The first person to throw up on caller ID is?

Me. Sorry. I when I say I will do it for a certain amount of time, I mean, like, if I have to, like, go be on a carpet for a second and it's just, like, the look is the look and there's, like, something stabbing me in the side. Like, I'll endure it for a second or a few hours and then

I need to tell you, 1 time I went to a fitting and this woman was like, oh my God, try on these heels. And I was like, woah, like, those look aggressive. And they're the Hailey Bieber heels. Like, they're the classic 1 she always wears. And I was like, woah.

Were they

Jimmy Choo? I don't even know. Hailey, I don't know. I was like, oh, okay. I guess I'll try them off.

Hailey wears them. Hailey? They were the most uncomfortable shoe I've ever put on in my life. I was like, what the fuck? How does she walk in these?

It's the 1 you know what I'm talking about?

The 1 that platform?

Yes. But it's the it's basically just the bottom of a shoe, and then the string goes around your fucking arm.

To be a ballet dancer and, like, dance on pointe. Flex on us. So I think that the reason that really high heels don't bother me is because my foot is just, like, used to being, like it doesn't care.

It's a gift because when I tell you I couldn't walk after I wore those, I was like, okay, Hailey. We're not on the same playing field. She clearly knows what she's doing. If you could trade closets or a sense of style with any of your friends, who would it be?

It's so interesting because I feel like me and all of my friends have such different style that I think I'm trying to think of who I feel the most similar to. I think Kylie has a very amazing and fun closet that is just I mean, who wouldn't wanna share,

like, trade closets with her? I agree. I'll trade houses with her too if she ever wants. I'm like, you know what? I think I agree.

Yeah. I was

like, yeah. I think I take high quality. The same shoe size.

What are which shoe

size are you?

An 8.

I don't wanna overstep, but so am I. So if you have any hand me downs.

So if we wanna exchange shoes, we can do that.

It's not your heels.

But it's I think it's so funny that I'm, like, thinking about, like, who can I actually, like, wear all their stuff?

And I'm,

like, well, she's an 8, and I have an 8.

Right. I'm, like, it's actually just a game, like, it but you're, like, no. Logistically, no 1 will happen.

I'm such a logistical thinker thinker. I'm like, but if I was to trade with this person and she's a size 9 and a half, then I can't have any of this. She's like, Haley, this is not real.

It's fantasy, it's a game, we can pretend. Okay, but I love it. Okay, so Kylie, hit us up. We're ready to take over your closet. You came in here.

There's paparazzi taking photos of you. It's a lot. How do you handle the pressure of being photographed for the world to see almost every single time you step outside?

It's really funny because I was thinking about this coming over here and they were, like, following me in the car, which is, like, it happens all the time. Whatever, like I know that's gonna happen if I'm in LA. There's not very many ways to avoid it. They just sit at the bottom of, like, my street, so it is what it is. But I was driving, and, like, sometimes when there's paparazzi following me, I have a flash in my head of, like, getting out with a baseball bat and literally destroying their car.

Like, I literally sometimes it it, like, it makes me just so annoyed that I'm, like, 1 of these days, I swear to God, I'm gonna get out of the car with a fucking baseball bat, and I'm going to, like, destroy their.

This is a hypothetical situation, by the way. Logistical. She's being hypothetical.

I just, like and driving over here, I was, like, I literally, like, that's my urge right now. And I'm, like, at the same time, do I wanna give anybody the power to, like, disturb my energy like that? No. But it's just, like, a feeling of it's just annoying. It's the feeling of, like, hitting a breaking point of, like, I just I can't stand it anymore.

Yeah. And some days are totally fine though, and some I can avoid it. And, like, I sometimes, like, get really lucky and, like, sneak different ways to, like, do it. But I think what I've come to terms with is, like, that's gonna happen in LA. Right.

You know what I mean? This isn't the, like, middle of of nowhere, like, you know, where there's, like, actual privacy. It's like the land of where everything happens. Totally. There's tons of people here.

It's also like, I'm not the only person that deals with this. It's like so many people deal with it, and it comes with the territory. And it's not like I hate when people are like, well, you asked for this because it's like, I don't think that's like a real thing to say. I didn't ask for grown men to follow me around with cameras, but I do understand

that it comes with the territory. It's hard to make friends when you're in a position where you don't know people's intentions. Right? Mhmm. Do you have a hard time trusting people?

Sometimes. Sometimes. I feel like I'm the type of person, and I've always been this way where I'm like, I trust people until they prove me wrong, which is, like, I guess sometimes can be a dangerous way to be. I'm a people person. Like, I love to connect with people.

I love meeting new people. I sometimes have a hard time with, like, becoming, like, friends with someone or close to someone, but, like, I love being cool with people and, like, being social and meaning people and knowing their story and, like, where are they from. I think that I have a lot of my friends that I'm very close to are people I've been close to for a long time. Some newer friends, some not. But I just think, yeah, I think there's sometimes that that aspect of, like, the distrust of, like, I don't know what you wanna be around for.

Have you ever had someone take advantage of you and your situation and, like, kinda love that it's, like, oh, I get this lifestyle around her and, like, how do you deal with that?

Mhmm. My personality is very, like, I don't do well with confrontation. I don't like to, like, confront awkward situations. I'm trying to work on it. I'm trying to be better at that.

But I I never want to, like I've always been this type of person where, like, I don't wanna, like, end things on, like, a sour note with a person because especially if there's someone, like, in an industry where I have to see them or, like, if we're gonna be out somewhere and I gotta see, like, I don't wanna walk into a room and feel like I have beef with someone. Like, that stresses me out big time crazy.

Even if it's so you can stick up for yourself. Yeah. We're working on that today. Yeah. K.

We're working on that today. We're gonna

work on that. Yeah. Even if it that's something I struggle with. Even if it's for me sticking up with myself, I just wanna, like because I think there's a way to stick up for yourself and still be cordial. I've had situations and or a situation where I feel like there was, like, a lot of stuff I found out about the situation, and then I knew if I confronted the person, they were just not gonna own up to any of it.

So it's like, what's the point? Right. If I'm gonna go to you and be like, here's what I found out. I know that it's true. I've seen the proof.

I've too many people have said something to me about it, and they're just gonna be like, I can't believe you would believe that about me. Like, that's just not true. Why am I gonna waste my breath with somebody who's just not even going who's not in the place in their life or, like, the type of person that is going to even receive the confrontation at all? Because I can do confrontation if it's in confrontation at all. Because I can do confrontation if it's in a calm, appropriate I'm not a yeller.

Like, I'm not gonna, like, freak out and, like, I'll get fired up when it's something that I'm really, like, passionate about or defensive about because, like, I've had that happen to me before. But I still always wanna end it on, like, a how did we move forward from here? Not like and and sometimes the reality I've to face is that, like, sometimes that's not possible. Like, sometimes you just can't be around that person or be friends with that person and, like, it is what it is. Totally.

You just have to move on. So many people in

the world are fascinated by you and fascinated by your life, And I think the public can kind of feel that from you of, like, you don't like confrontation. Mhmm. You rarely will speak out on things if there's drama, which I think so many people do respect you for. But how much does that then weigh on you of things piling up on you that it's, like, when is gonna be a good moment for Hailey to just, kinda, like, speak her truth? And you've done it a couple of times on the Internet, which I think people were, like, oh, fuck yes.

Like, Hailey, let's go, which we're gonna get into.

Well, I think based on what you're saying, like, 1 of the, I think, issues with that is that then you get stuck having to explain yourself for every little thing. And I had to get over that because I was in a place at at 1 point where I felt like I wanted to, like, explain the narrative and explain myself, and, like, that's also exhausting. So if it's like every single time I do an interview or if I say something and there's gonna be something that people are like, why would she say that? Or, like, she's wrong for saying that or that doesn't make sense. You said marriage is hard work, and then I said then everybody was like, that's not a good sign if you think that it's, like, hard like, it's like no matter what I say, I'm always gonna have to be explaining myself to people, which is why I actually hate doing interviews where they're like it's like a blurb of a longer thing that I said that's just so out of context, and then I'm gonna feel like

I'm explaining myself. What marriage doesn't have ups and downs? And in a good way, you get

through share. What I meant when I said hard work is just, like, there's compromise. There's sacrifice. I feel that way in most relationships in my life, even friendships, even work relationships. Like, they can be tough sometimes.

I didn't mean it just overall. Yeah. Like, it's hard, and it sucks. Like, that's not what I'm saying at all. It's literally the best thing ever.

The whole sentence of what I said was, like, he's my best friend. I love coming home to him, but, like, yeah, it takes work because I'm 25 years old, and I have a life and I have a career and I have my own friends. So trying to balance making my wants and needs and hopes and dreams work while meshing my life with another human who has his hopes and dreams and career. And, like, we're busy people, and we want to be in a marriage. So we're making it work, and sometimes it's hard.

How is that not make sense?

People don't want it to make sense. Yeah. People really want that statement to be, like, the marriage is ending. Like, here we go.

But people have been saying that since the beginning. So that's why at this point, I'm not as I was more sensitive about it. I don't really feel sensitive about it now because I'm just like Totally. No matter what I say, it's like, like, the marriage is ending. Like, every single time I say something

But here we go.

About my own relationship, it's like, there's something wrong with it. So it's like, I just don't care. People have been saying this now for 4 years.

So let's get into it. You are married start

sticking my feet

to the couch. I'm

like Here

you go. Alex, just go. She's literally burrowing in. Like, look at my hands. Oh my god.

Hailey. Okay. You married 1 of the most famous people on the planet, Justin Bieber. Mhmm. What are the best parts about being married to Justin?

Well, I think the best parts are that he's my best friend, and there's nothing better than being with the person that makes you smile the most, makes you laugh the most. Like, he's just literally the best human to me ever, and I think that he's a person who has been through a lot and shouldn't have gotten gotten to the other side of a lot of what he's been through, and he has, and he's overcome so many different things in his life for being famous so young. And the fact that he's as normal as he is, he's literally just to me, I feel like he's a very, like, normal, regular guy. I guarantee you someone takes this and they, like, fucking chop it up and make it sound like I said something different. But I've known him for a very long time.

We were friends for a long time before anything else, and, like, I just love him.

You can see it with the 2 of you even though we only see stuff. I mean, I remember when I saw you guys on the beach in Santa Barbara. Mhmm. And I grew up, I watched Justin Bieber. I was like, oh, like, I didn't know what to expect.

Like, I was definitely intimidated by you guys because we'd only met once. I was like, wait. Why are they so normal? Justin's like, hey. What's up?

Gives me a hug. You're like, what are you guys doing on your trip? I'm like, you guys are so, so normal for what how crazy your life is, and it's unfortunate that people don't get to see that side of you guys.

Yeah. He's also like, he just has the kindest, sweetest, most, like, gentle heart and soul to me, and I've always thought that about him. Obviously, he's gone through phases in his life where he was being, you know, a little out there. I don't wanna say, like, fuck boy because it's, like, not yeah. But, like, yes and no.

I don't know. I don't know how to describe it, but, like, he was just in a different space in his life and was, like, I think, ultimately, when people are, like, acting out, it's just because they're hurting, and he was just in a space in his life. I mean, we're all hurting every single day. But I think sometimes we go through a season where it's like, we're hurting a lot more. We're going through a lot more, so we're just a different version of ourself that's not really who we are.

But, like, to me, he's just the best, the most fun. Like, I have the most fun with him. He understands me more than anybody ever has in my whole life, and I I think that goes both ways, and he's just my guy.

How has being married to someone with that level of fame impacted your identity?

Where do I start? Well, I think, even for starters, this even me talking about him or talking about our relationship, people will take that and be, like, all she ever talks about is her relationship with him. And even something like that, I'm just like, well, we are married, and he's a huge part of my life. And, obviously, people are very interested in, like, our life together, and he's a humongous public figure. So it's, like, it's a little bit unavoidable at times.

And I do try to, you know, have my own thing, but it's, like, our lives are completely messed together. So I don't know. I'm like, what do you want from me? Like, of course, people are gonna ask me about it. They're gonna ask him about it.

Like, I just don't see how that's, like, avoidable. And sometimes it is because it's just not necessary to talk about. But, like, even in a situation like this, yeah. We're married. I have his last name.

Like, I don't know how I'm supposed to avoid, like, talking about my life. Like, that's my life.

This person that you happen to be married to happens to also be 1 of the most famous people in the world.

Be asking me about him if he was someone who had a different type of job or, like, you know

Right.

A 9 to 5. Like, I just the reality is that it it is what it is. From your

point of view, can you explain why the Internet was so angry over your engagement to Justin?

First of all, I think 1 thing is that we're both really young. That's I think, honestly, that's for starters, which I totally understand. When we got engaged, I was 21, and he was 24? Yeah. 24 and 21.

I personally never thought I was gonna get married that young. Like, I always thought I would be maybe getting married now, and I'm 25 now, and I still think I'm really young. I think the timing was obviously very rapid and very fast, which now being 4 years past that, looking back on it, I I totally get it. I'm like, yeah. That seemed really drastic and really crazy because but that was what we felt was a decision between the 2 of us, and it felt correct for the 2 of us at the time.

And, clearly, we were right because here we are 4 years later. And I think just given the timeline of, like, where he was at before we got back together and what was going on, and there was just a lot happening. Yeah. But I will say too, like, the only people that really know the truth of the situation and what the timeline really was and how it happened and how it went down are, like, me and him. Perception is a really tricky thing because when you're watching something from the outside, you can see it 1 way when it may not be outside, you can see it 1 way when it may not really be the reality of what happened behind closed doors.

And that's a big challenge, I think, of being somebody who is in the spotlight or being famous is that I know how we got to where we got, period. Like, that's I just know

how it happened. I was there,

and I was living it every day. So there's just yeah. There there's a lot that I can understand why people were so, like, what is going on? Like, this seems crazy.

Your husband was in a very public relationship. They were kids. People were obsessed with the idea of them. People were confused on the timeline you're talking about of, like, is she a homewrecker? So I guess my question is, Haley Mhmm.

Were you ever with Justin romantically at the same time as her?

No. Not not 1 time. When him and I started hanging out, like okay. Let's just put it this way. When him and I ever started, like, hooking up or, like, anything of that sort, he was not ever in a relationship ever at any point.

I would never it's not my character to mess with someone's relationship. I would just never do that. I was raised better than that. I'm not interested in doing that, and I never was. I think that there are situations where you can still kind of have, like, back and forth with someone, but even that was not the situation.

Like, I can say period point blank, I was never with him when he was in a relationship with anybody. That's the end of it. And I had been involved with him since I was 18. The the timeline also that I think sometimes is in question of, like, us getting together and getting engaged and him having been spending time with his ex before that. This is so crazy.

I've literally never talked about this ever. I understand, again, how it looks from the outside, and there's a lot of perception there. But that was a situation where I I know for a fact that it was the right thing for them to close that door. They were not in a relationship at that time. But, of course, there's a very long history there, and it's not my relationship.

It has nothing to do with me, so I respect that a lot. But I know that it closed a chapter, and I think it was the best thing that could have happened for him to move on and be engaged and get married and, like, move on with with his life in that way. And it's hard for me to talk about this because I don't wanna talk on either 1 of their behalf again because it was their relationship, and I honestly respect that very deeply. But I just know what was going on when we got back together, and I know what had to happen for that to come back together in a healthy way. And I think it it was the most healthy, mature decision that he could have made, and I respect that.

As a woman, I would never wanna get into a relationship with someone and be engaged to them and be getting married to them and think in the back of my mind, I wonder, like, if that was really, like, closed for you and, like and I know for a fact that the reason we were able to get back together was because it was very much completely closed, and that is respectful to me.

So let's talk about your experience with there's been a lot of hate Mhmm. On the Internet. I know you don't like to talk about this stuff, but you've never

It literally makes me so uncomfortable.

But, like see that. I see that.

Yeah. I'm like I'm like, can't stop moving, and I'm, like, crawling because I just feel like there's, like, a little bit of that, like, anxiety of, like, people will probably take it the wrong way or, like, I just don't wanna say something that is, like, being disrespectful or, like, bringing up something that can, like, stir up feelings for someone that like, I know that we're just all so far moved on from, like, any type of drama, and I'm so happy for that. So, like, I get nervous about talking about it because I'm like, I don't wanna, like, stir anything up or, like, bring anything up that is going to be, like, a thing or

And I get that. And I think the reason, unfortunately, is you guys aren't completely normal human beings. There is a complete world out there that is obsessed with all of you Mhmm. In different ways. And then there are people that hate you for who your husband dated back in his past.

Mhmm. Take me through how your husband's past relationship, still to this day, affects what people are saying about you and to you on the Internet.

Well, I think, like, 1 of the things that we already just covered is that, like, the timeline of things and, like, a lot of the hate and the perpetuation comes from, like, oh, you stole him. And I guess maybe that just comes from, like, the fact that they wished that, like, he had ended up with someone else, and that's fine. Like, you can wish that all you want, but that's just not the case.

In December of 2020, a person posted a video encouraging haters to comment on your Instagram live with nasty messages announcing their Instagram live with nasty messages announcing their allegiance for Justin's ex and just, like, fully harassing you on your live. Mhmm. What do you remember feeling on that Instagram live when you saw those comments start popping up?

I don't well, I think there's, like, a certain, like, almost, like, numbness that you get where you just, like, you just know it's gonna happen. It still happens to this day. This is you're talking about something that was 2 years ago now, almost 3, and it's something that's if I was to go live on Instagram right now, it would still be happening probably less, which is nice. Mhmm. But you just reach a point where you're just like you have to just, like, ignore it and be like, okay.

And didn't Justin came publicly to your defense and, like, said something?

Well, because I know that for him, that's hurtful. Because if we have moved on, why can't you? Like, that's kind of just the whole thought process of, like, it's just hurtful. It's hurtful.

It's bullying. It brings me back to the Rob Pattinson and Kristen Stewart, the Miley Cyrus and Liam Hemsworth. Hemsworth. Mhmm. Their first love.

Right? And people are obsessed, I feel like, with this concept of, like, your first relationship. Somehow, it's being pushed onto you as, like, get the fuck out of the way. Like, let them get back. And you're like, if I wasn't even here, they're that's not gonna happen.

So, like, let us just live our lives. And now you go find your partner, and you be happy. But it's it's hard.

I have had this conversation with a psychiatrist, with a therapist before because I'm just like, I hate comparison. The whole point of this conversation is that we're talking about how my relationship is being compared to something else or I'm being compared to another woman and, you know, get the fuck out of the way type of a thing. So where I'm at and the position I'm in, it's not it's it's not for everybody, but everybody has a purpose. But that doesn't necessarily mean that you're supposed to also be 25 and married and doing this or I'm I'm I could have nothing figured out right now if in an in an alternate situation, in an alternate life.

And I think Hailey, he was America's bad boy sweetheart. Mhmm. And so I think there's ownership people and fans feel over him. There totally is,

and there's also this, like, why is it you? There's so much of that that I feel like, why why you, though? Like and I'm like, I don't know.

Right. Like, I just fell in love. He fell in love. He fell

in love. And, like, it it I I think there was times where, like, I'd be I can confidently say I I don't think we knew it was gonna be each other several times. So, like, I can't say that, yes, at 18 years old, I knew a 100% that that was my husband. I don't fucking I didn't fucking know.

You almost can't live up to the idea of who they think belongs with him.

It would've nobody would've this is the thing. If it was any if it was another person, it's like because so many people have adored him for so long, nobody in their mind would have ever been, like, the person. And here's the thing too. It's like we're talking about a lot of, like, the negative side of it. There's also so many people who have made me feel so embraced and so encouraged and so loved.

And, obviously, it has brought me a newfound audience and a newfound, you know, there it it just there I wanna, like, give credit also to the people who have, like, supported and been so kind and, like, so amazing and so great.

I think everyone in the world almost knows that you have been bullied and harassed on the Internet for almost 4 years now. Like, that's a fact. Mhmm. And it's But I do

think it has changed. Okay. I I will give credit to say that I do think that 4 years ago, 3 years ago, 2 and a half years ago, because of how intense it was, it made me just very, like, close it off and, like, not wanna share anything really of myself on the Internet. I didn't really wanna be open. I would get a pit in my stomach doing interviews because I'm just like, I can't, like I I'm it's like it's like being, like, traumatized kind of, like, you're too scared to, like, speak or open yourself up or say the wrong thing, and then you start to become I had I had moments where I I felt like I was becoming very, like, not like like a robot, but, like, I had to be very meticulous about what I was saying and very agreeable and can't say the wrong thing.

And, like and it just starts to become this very, like, weird way of feeling where you feel you just can't be expressive and you can't be yourself. And then that was where it came in with, like, wanting to do YouTube and trying to have a space within this age of the Internet and this age of social media where I can say, this is who I actually am. Take it or leave it like me or not. This is who I am, and I felt like actually taking the step to even though at times it was really uncomfortable for me, taking the step of being like, I'm proud of who I am, and this is my personality. And, like, this is gonna sound probably so corny, but, like, to me, I've always felt like I was just, like, a girl from fucking New York.

Oh my god. This is gonna sound so cringe. I love you. I grew up to me, I felt, like, very normal. And, like, I am from a small town called Nyack that is, like, a suburb of New York City, and I woke up every day, and, like, I was homeschooled and, like, did ballet.

And, like, to me, I feel like I've remained that same person. Of course, life has changed drastically, but, like, at the core, I feel like I am proud of who I am at the at the core. Like, I know I've always been that that same person, and I feel very rooted and grounded. And I grew up very grounded and rooted, and, of course, I came from a famous family. Everybody you know, that's the reality of my life.

Can't change that either. Either. And I just feel like, again, people didn't really, like, know me and know my story and know the kind of person I was. Like, people don't know what kind of friend I am. They don't know what kind of daughter I am.

They don't know what kind of sister I am. Like but I know.

You are starting to share more. Mhmm. And even in the video that you made where you basically asked people to stop harassing you and you were, like, leave me alone. Yeah. Just leave

me alone. Half joking, but I was being half serious. Like, it was supposed to be something that was, like, light and funny, but I was also being serious because I, like, woke up 1 day, and I was like, I can't believe we're still doing this.

Because what? You, like, read a comment?

Yeah. Like, I was I which, again, like, I have to stop myself from doing all the time because we know that the Internet is a toxic hole, and, like, comments are a toxic hole. But I was just, like, curious about something, and then I'm, like, reading. I'm, like, are we still talking about this? Like, we're getting to this has been it's been years now.

Like, 4 years we've been together. Like, come on.

Let it go.

Let's all evolve together. Let's hold hands and and really, like, okay. We're done. Like, that's how I wanted to that's how I felt in that moment. I was like, are we serious that this is what we're still doing?

Like, we're still gonna harass me about this this shit? There is so much that I could have said. Mhmm. There was so much that I, at times, was, like, this close to saying. And I just felt like there's so there's so many things that were happening where it's also like there's a time and a place, and there's also a time and a place to let other people express what they need to express and, like, go through their feelings and emotions.

And, like, I just felt like there were certain times if I was going to say something, it was going to make things way worse and not be beneficial. Again, it was gonna be my word against someone else's, against a bunch of other people, and it would just not be beneficial. And I've struggled with that for I I had struggled with that for a long time. Like, I would talk to my therapist and be like, but it's it's not fair that people think that this is what happened when this is really what happened. And then there you get into a cycle of, like, again, feeling the need to explain yourself.

And for me, it's not even about explaining myself. It's about people knowing the truth because there's a truth. There is actually the truth of something that happened, and there's the truth of what didn't happen. So I think for me, when people, you know, make up stories about me online, I'm just like, but that's not what happened. That's not the truth.

Is the crux of it the homewrecker thing? Like, is that what really bothers you?

I think there's a lot of timing and timeline stuff that, like, just wasn't true, and that's also just the Internet making up their stories and, like, taking little bits and pieces of something they're looking at from the outside. And there and by the way, it's not even it's so many different things. The Internet can make up they can literally sit here and say that I threw up on you.

I know that she did. But that's not Okay. Haley's fault. Can sit there

and say, Haley threw up on me. It was really crazy, and then I would read that on TMZ, and I'd be like, that did not happen. Do you know what I'm saying? There's just stuff that happens all the time that I'm like, hello?

Can you explain what happened when you were taking photos on the red carpet with your husband at the Met Gala in 2021?

Oh, and people were screaming? Mhmm. So, yes, I could hear everyone screaming. And, again, I think there's a certain part of you that has a numbness of just, like I was, like, really surprised. I could kind of hear it, but I didn't know if that's what was really going on

until I saw the video after. The whole thing of everybody

being like, oh, until I saw the video after. The whole thing of everybody being like, oh, he's trying to tell her not to cry. That was not true. It wasn't making me cry. Although it's a very disrespectful thing to do towards anybody, I felt like I had something in my eye.

Mhmm. That was see, that's just what goes to show you how out of context things can be seen. When he's, like, trying to help me, I'm like, I feel like there's something in my eye. Do you see something in my eye? And I'm going like this, and he's like, no.

No. No. You're good.

And as this is happening, everyone's chanting. I don't was it their was it I don't even know if it was their relationship name or just her name. I thought you both both. So then you take the sunglasses. Yeah.

And everyone will go.

Were just part of my look. They were just part of my look. I knew I was gonna wear the sunglasses regardless on the carpet for some photos and then some without. But, yeah, I did hear people yelling. I it wasn't making me almost cry.

I think seeing the video back after made me, like, damn. Like, that sucks that that's the energy people are, like, putting out into like, that you would even spend your time Camping out. Standing outside and doing that. I just felt like it was it was disrespectful to me, to my relationship. It just was, period, the end.

But I think I've endured so much disrespect, and I still do to this day that there was, like, a part of me that was just, like, another day, another negative sleigh.

It's, like, so depressing. I know. That I know. See, that's, like, a very public example, I feel, like, of you having to go through that. Is there anything that comes to mind that was supposed to be a happy moment for you, for you and Justin, whatever, and it was ruined by harassment or bullying or this concept of his past?

They've never ruined anything for me. They've never they've never they're not ruining my life. They're not ruining my happiness. And that, I think, is really the win of the whole thing. You're actually not taking anything away from me.

So that's what I just keep stepping forward with. It's like, you can't take this away from me. You cannot take away my happiness, my relationship, my business, my career. Like, you just you can't. You can try and you can be mad about it, but it doesn't change anything is my point.

Haley, what do you think the Internet wants you to do?

I don't know. I would shit don't know.

Like, if you were trying to get under it, like

I'm, like, sometimes I joke around. I'm, like, would they be happy if I, like, just moved away and, like, locked myself in a house and just, like I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what the goal is. That's what's so funny is I'm just like, I don't try to understand, like, what is the goal.

I think I would say it's

probably time it's a I think it's attention. I think a lot of people sometimes they do things and they say things in hopes to get a response out of you and to get a rise. And I've seen it happen with a lot of other people too. Like, you're ugly, and then, like, you respond and you're like, I wish you the best. Like, I'm sorry you feel that way.

And they're like, oh my god, queen. I'm sorry. I actually love you. I was just being silly. You're

like, that was That was That wasn't funny. That wasn't funny at all. Calling me ugly, like, I guess it is kinda funny because look at you, so fuck off.

No. It's just, like No.

But I

get it. Was your point? So then the point is, like, they get the attention that they thought. I think a lot of people think you'll not respond, and I've had that happen before too. I didn't think you would see it.

I'm sorry. And I'm like, so why are you saying it?

Are you just saying it? I don't know. Can you try to explain what does it feel like to have millions of people against your relationship? Like, what does that feel like on a day to day basis to you?

I guess the biggest thing is, like, I think it's sad. I think it's sad to be against someone's happiness. I think it's sad to not wish somebody well. Who am I supposed to be that would be acceptable? And then that means that I'm living for other people.

And that means that I'm being a people pleaser, which I struggle with a lot. I do want people to like me. It does bother me when people just don't like me simply because of the rumors they've heard or the ideas they've come up with or things that they've seen. Like, it makes me sad, but I think I've had to come to the point and the realization of, like, there is no way that you exist as a person, especially not as a person with a platform or in the public eye where everybody loves you. And that's even in life in general.

Even if I was just in a normal situation, not everybody's gonna like you. I'm just existing in front of a lot of people, so it's very easy to make up your like, make decisions about how you feel about someone Yeah. Especially when there's so much access to look at them and see what they're doing in their social media and there's photos and there's just, like, life.

So I don't know. I think that sometimes it feels really heavy. What has been your lowest moment since all of this began?

When things can get really dark and you can start having thoughts of, like, it not being worth it anymore or not wanting to be here anymore, which I have had before in the past. And coming out of that, I think it's really important. A support system is, like, the most important thing for sure.

Maybe if you could talk about, like, the shame of having those feelings because I bet a lot of people listening have had those thoughts and you're you're you're really alone with them and how to even, like, comprehend them is a is a process in itself.

Sometimes I don't think we can comprehend them on our own because then you just throw yourself back into, like, a vicious cycle. Mhmm. I do think sometimes you need to express it and you need to to go to someone who is gonna feel safe for you and support you in those thoughts, not make you feel like you're crazy or that you're wrong for feeling dark and deep and heavy. There's also this, like, kind of weird twisted thing where I'm like, I don't get to feel that way because I have an amazing life, and I'm so blessed and I'm so fortunate. So, like, it's almost like my my dialog in my head feels like, get the fuck over it.

Like, you don't get to feel that way because there are people in this world that are that are really struggling, and you're not. Like, that's sometimes how I feel like I talk to myself because I'm like, get over it. Like, you're fine. That kind of a thing. And I've had to really try to be more gentle with myself and, like, allow myself.

I'm somebody who, like, I hate crying in front of people. I don't do it. Like, just don't like it. And it's been since I was a little kid, and I I've never understood. I mean, I've started to a little bit more in therapy and stuff, but I'm like, why do I find it so embarrassing to cry in front of people when it's like everybody cries and it's such a vulnerable thing?

But I'm like, it feels so awkward and, like, cringe to me to cry in front of people, and it's always been such an uncomfortable thing for me. So, like, I have when I say I'm, like, shy and stuff like like, I have been guarded emotionally in ways since I was, like, a little girl. So I think going through the process of also trying to understand why we have some of the the tendencies we have since childhood. Like, what are the things that have happened to me when I was a little kid that have, like, brought me to the place of feeling like I have to have the self dialog of, like, you don't get to feel that way. Get the fuck over it.

People are way worse off than you, which is also, like, true. There are people who are going through a lot different struggles and different things, but it's the sense of not invalidating the way that I feel. And I'm still working on that, and I'm a 100% sure that I will be forever working on that. In December, going into the new year, I went to this place that was a, like, therapy intensive. I was there for 7 days, no phone, literally therapy, like, hours and hours a day.

And that was something that we spoke about about, like, tiptoeing around the way I feel or, like, not sticking up for myself because, again, it it kind of boils back to, like, I've never enjoyed confrontation, and I think a lot of it comes from my mom is a very sweet woman who is just like an angel, but she as far as I can remember, she never liked confrontation. And she, I feel like, didn't stick it up for herself. And at times, still to this day, doesn't say what she wants and is like, I don't wanna do this. I wanna do that. Like, she is a very just gentle kind of reserved pulled back woman.

And there's so much about her that I, like, super respect, but I think it's just a pattern that I watched growing up of just she was just very, nonconfrontational. Yeah. And there was a lot we didn't talk about. There were subjects And as I've as I've gotten older and had open conversations with my mom and she's expressed things that have happened to her in her life and things that she's gone through that I never knew about, it made me understand why she might be like that. Mhmm.

But it's a it's a pattern, and it's, like, a learned behavior, I think, a little bit that I am trying to move past and work past.

To close out kind of the chapter of what everything we were discussing, what would you say to her fans? Like, just coming from your heart, discussing, what would you say to her fans? Like, just coming from your heart, they're all sitting, listening to you, having an open mind. Let's pretend they had it. What would you say to her fans?

I think I would say the first thing I would say is you're not obligated to like me. But I believe that no matter what, there can always be mutual respect between people. And to me, that means just that you don't have to say anything. You don't have to like me, but you don't have to say anything either because behind this person that you're looking at on a screen is a person with a brain and a heart and emotions and issues that I face, and so do you, and so does Alex, and so does every single person in this room. So you just yeah.

I think just mutual, like, respect and decency and and know that what you say can have impact and know that yeah. I I guess that's what I would say.

My god. I think I would have been a little nastier, but I love it from you, Hailey. That I

mean, what I want to say would be no. I'm just kidding. No. Like, that I always made the joke of, like, I think if I sat down with any of those people and they would walk away being, like, you know what? I get it.

Like, I respect her for that. I think we will always have more in common than we don't. That's, like, where everything comes from for me. So when I see people being nasty and, like, attacking me, I'm like, we probably like a lot of the same things.

1 of my last questions on this topic cause I'm just trying to get all of it just, like, let's wrap it in a bow. Yeah. So you never have to talk about this again. You're like, yeah.

I wish. No. I literally never will. No. I'm, like, sweating.

At any point did Justin or any literally anyone ever ask his ex to help put an end to the harassment that her fans put you through?

No. What I will say is that she has been in this industry much longer than I have, and maybe there's something that she knows about, like, it wouldn't fix anything.

I think, like, a nice little heart on your TikTok could end it all.

The thing is too is, like, I think that, like, all everyone is just trying to, like, create separation even though there's clearly, like, not always separation. I have no expectation. I would never expect someone to do that for me. Like, she doesn't owe me anything. I don't owe neither of us owe anybody anything except, like, respect.

I respect her a lot, and I think that, like, there's just no expectations. If that was something that she felt was necessary, then that would be amazing. But I I just yeah. I respect her. There's no drama personally.

Have you guys ever spoken? Yes. And then, like, recently? No. I don't guess not recently, but, like, after your marriage.

Yes. So that's why I'm, like, it's all respect. It's all love. That's also why I feel like, well, if everybody on our side knows what happened and we're good and we could walk away from it with clarity and respect, then, like Right. That's fine.

As long as you know you're good, that's really all that matters.

Which had brought me a lot of peace. Mhmm. And I'm like, hey. We know what happened.

Mhmm.

It is what it is. You're never gonna be to, like, correct every narrative. And there's gonna be new ones that come. It's never gonna end, and that's why I get to the point where I'm like that's why I didn't speak about a lot of this stuff. Because I'm like, there'll be something new.

There'll probably be something new from this interview.

Oh, of course.

Then I'm just like,

you don't wanna know what's gonna come from this interview? Hailey Bieber talking about sex. Great. Hailey Bieber. Yes.

Welcome to caller daddy. You're like, we've been sitting here for an hour.

She's like, we're starting over. We're scrapping the whole thing.

No. I need to give the fans what they want. Right? We need to just give them a little a little taste. Right?

Walk me through my hand says the street face. Walk me through, step by step, your sex with Justin Bieber.

Oh my god.

And I I was gonna try to do it so, like, so straight, and you're like, this girl's a fucking psycho. No. I was wondering, did anyone ever ask you about your sex life?

No, actually.

We're the first ones over here. I don't think so. You a morning sex or night sex people?

More so night. Me too. Mhmm. Mhmm. But I do like morning too.

It's so funny because I talk about this stuff, and the reason I get weird about talking about it is because I'm like, if my parents are gonna listen to this, there's something that feels so cringe No. About your parents.

Hopefully, they don't make it this far.

Your your parents are probably really progressive and, like

True, Hailey, but I grew up fully Catholic.

Okay.

So my parents, like, really it took call her daddy really, like I went from 0 to, like, oh my god. What is she doing?

Yeah.

But they get over it. This will see, this is your introduction to, like,

Guys, I also am very scared that people, like, don't care about married people sex.

I'm sorry. You 2 are the hottest people in the world. I feel like I

don't think I don't think anybody cares.

Oh, I care. Okay. So your night sex people, we love that. Okay. This is so graphic, but I'm saying the words.

Okay.

For the rest of your life, you have to pick 1 of the 2. Okay. From mister Bieber, are you going to be fingered or eaten out for the rest of your life? You can only take 1.

That's very hard because I feel like it's always a combination.

Has anyone ever tried to have a threesome with you? Like, in our relationship? No. Would you be down?

No. It's funny because I feel like those ideas can be really fun and, like, sound really exciting. I think at the at the point that of inside of our it doesn't work for the 2 of us. We personally like, that wouldn't work for the because because I think sometimes for some people, it it does. So I've so I've heard.

Some people are in, like, open relationships and, like, it works for a time, but I feel like in the end, it always doesn't end up working. So I think the second you make the decision to do that, there is never going back from that. And I just don't know that I would ever be willing to, like we've worked very hard. We worked very hard to, like, be in the space that we're in now and, like, trusting each other, and there's, like, such a beautiful trust and bond that I just don't think that's something I would be comfortable with or him for that matter.

Can you expand a little bit on how you guys built that trust and that bond? He's really honest.

Mhmm. Like, brutally honest, overly honest. I could ask him about any person, any past girl, anything, and he'd be like, oh, yeah. Like, this, this, this, and this. He doesn't have a problem being explicit, and I think that made me trust him a lot because I'm like, there's nothing I don't know.

Because you can tell when someone's being shady, and then when you

go around her. Like, he's had people, like, DM him, and he'll be like, oh, like, show me the DMs. Like, do you and he'll, like, be like, do you think that, like, this person's trying to be nice, or you think this is weird? And I'm like, I think it's weird. Oh.

No. It's like he knows he's just saying, like

Yeah. Do you

think, like, this person is, like, genuine? Because it'll come across, like, super friendly, and I'm just like, there's just no reason.

There's no reason you need to have a relationship.

There's no

other yeah. That's

cute. But I'm also someone where, like, I really encourage female friendships because I think that you have to be able to have, like, healthy opposite sex relationships that are friendships, or else you're, like, closing yourself off all the time. And it's like

But you're not, like, having Instagram models, like, walk around your house.

No. Of course. I'm just saying, like, of course, there's boundaries with everything, but Totally. I understand. Saying, like, don't be afraid to have girlfriends.

Totally.

Right. Because it's like, if you can't, it's like, oh my god. Like, each

If I could it'll be like if I couldn't have friends that were guys. Guys. I think it you control what the limitations are in any relationship, in any friendship, in any Yeah. Work relationship. Like, you

can have self restraint and

Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

For sure.

Do you have people still in your DMs? No. You're like, I am just I am just a married

woman right here. Hitting me up, like, with my DMs. I'll slide in.

You got you. Okay. Do you and Justin have the same favorite positions?

I think so. It's not like I'm, like, I strictly like this 1 thing, and he strictly likes another thing.

Can you give us, like, 1 or 2 or 5?

It's always different.

Okay. Yeah.

It's always something different. You're you're moving it around. Yeah. Well, no. I I mean, like, 1 day it might be 1 thing, 1 day it might be another thing.

Oh, I actually didn't mean that too. I I was like, you're doing 10 positions in 1 night.

She's like, he's flipping you upside down 1 second. No.

So you guys have, like, you guys are not set on 1 position. Like, you guys have a couple go tos.

No. No.

No. No. I don't. I think with my boyfriend, I have now, like, our go to, like, 3. I feel like every couple has those, like, go to's.

Yeah. Do you wanna give us 1? And it can't be missionary.

It's definitely not missionary. I really like doggy style.

You heard it here. That was beautiful, Hailey. What is the sexiest thing Justin does to turn you on?

You know, it can be so many different things. It can be, like, a connection thing. It can be a physical thing. For me, kissing is a big deal. Like, that's a that's a big thing for me.

It always has been just, like, in my life before I was married, so I would say that is probably the most.

What is the sexiest thing you do that turns him on? Or what's his thing that he always says, like, oh, God, like, Hailey. Like, he, like, gets him going.

The connection point is very important to him of, like, we could literally just be, like, laying down talking before and, like, just having, like, a really fun conversation and, like, that is really important for him. Yeah.

Okay. I'm gonna tell you something that I think is super sexy about you that turns me on is voting.

Yes. Woo. Voting is hot.

Yes. Voting is so sexy. Yeah.

It's so sexy. Justin can't vote here.

But Oh, well, he'll be he'll be supportive of us both voting.

Okay? He's very.

And there are so many people that listen to this show, and this airs in September. We have a huge election in November, and I just think it would be great to use the end of this episode and use this platform and our platforms to just emphasize why it's important to vote and just how much everyone needs to get out there. So why is voting in this year's election important to you,

Haley? It's important to me because I think, as everybody knows, we're in a very scary state in our country. We, as women, are living through a very terrifying reality right now. And I think what we've learned what I took away in a big way from the overturn of Roe v Wade was the people that we elect in our states, in our cities, in our counties, they are so important. And that was something that I was like, shit.

Like

We gotta

get on it. Really the reality. We gotta get on it. I felt very passionate the last election about just please get him out of there. Like, that was like it felt like legit, like life or death, and it and it was in so many ways.

And I still feel that even even more now because you've seen there's still so many terrible scary things happening within our country, but I do think there's a chance for, like, change. And I always think there's an opportunity for change, and there's an opportunity to, come together and stand up and make a difference. You've been open about the

fact that people in your family have different political views than you. Mhmm. And I think that's probably the most relatable thing we'll talk about on the podcast today. And I think so many people can relate to that. How did you navigate that?

Because it can get heated.

Yeah. It was tricky, especially very personally. Like, my my dad, my parents, it just got to a point where I found that we couldn't discuss it, which I think is okay. I believe what I believe. I am a fully formed woman now, 25 turning 26.

I know what I believe in and what I don't. I know what I stand for and what I don't. And, obviously, it's disappointing that the people that raised you could think so differently than you and have such a different perception that sounds crazy. And you're just like, how did I come from you then? I just don't get this.

But it would it it just causes too much disturbance and turmoil and argumentative back and forth that it's just

like it just can't be talked about. You're not gonna change people.

And it's funny because me and my sister have the same exact point of view, which is, like, nice because at least I'm like, at least I got you. Like

At least. Thank

you. My mom, like, I'll try to talk to her about something. She's like, I'm from Brazil. So I'm like, okay. My mom's from Brazil, by the way.

Oh my god. No. I I appreciate that. I think it's always good to just, 1, normalize. People are gonna have different views, but I do think regardless, like, just get out and vote because it is so important this year specifically.

For sure.

So good. And it's not something that I even, you know, the last election, I was super vocal about it. I plan to do that every single time. It's something that I'm passionate about for sure, so I appreciate you bringing it up.

Hailey Bieber, thank you so much for coming on caller, daddy. I really appreciate you opening up. You don't do a lot of long form interviews, so I appreciate you trusting me in sitting down there.

Of course. Thank you. So much. I think I had an expectation where I I know coming on here with you, you're gonna go there. That's just the reality of the situation.

I wouldn't have agreed to it if I didn't know that was the case here. I think there's a lot that I've avoided speaking on for a long time that it it is my life, so I should be able to, like, say what I want about it. You go there in certain context where it's like, I've not gone before, and I think that that's, like, a personal challenge to myself that I want I wanted to, like, push myself to, like you know? It's okay to be on like, I was uncomfortable multiple times in this or inside of the couch because I was like, how many, like, protective body positions did I get into? I folded like a pretzel.

What happens in New York, Haley?

To be honest, I I really was always a very level headed young person, but I definitely had my moment where, like, I went to New York. I started going out to the club. Like, that's just what happens when I I I mean, I guess it's not just what happens. You move to New York. You're going to the club.

But I I got introduced to, like, nightlife and going out and drinking and, you know, I definitely had my moments of that that was, like, my time, probably, like, 18 to but I swear by the time I turned 21, I was like, ugh. I'm overdrinking.

Do you remember the first time you got drunk? Was it a disaster?

The first time I got drunk, I was like, oh my god. This is so funny. I was 16. Yeah. I think I was 16, and I used to be a dancer, like I've I said before.

And I think we had, like, a recital, and 1 of my friends who I danced with, she had, like, the best house for, like, sleepovers because she had, like, the dope basement. Oh. So we would go in the basement, shut the door. The parents would never come down, so we would take, like, all the alcohol and, just get drunk in the basement.

The 2 of you? No.

It was, like, multiple girls. Okay. Like, all the girls from the our dance school. And the first time I've, like, really remember getting drunk, I didn't throw up, which is, like, surprising. That 1 time, I didn't throw up.

Thrown up multiple times from drinking. But that 1 time, I remember, like, crawling

on the floor because I, like, could not walk, like, could not stand up straight, and I

was just mixing everything because I didn't know what to drink. So I can never if you made me smell Ciroc birthday cake vodka right now

Ciroc?

Or, like, SVEDKA birthday cake pinnacle. Pinnacle. Pinnacle.

And you would just bomb.

If you made me smell that right now, I would proceed to fall into a dark hole. Like, it would trigger me.

That I feel like that's what

we were drinking and then, like, mixing it with, like, a beer and, like, a Mike's heart and, like, all this crazy like, the fact that I didn't throw up is a miracle. But I remember waking up the next day, I was so hungover, and, I called my cousin who was, like, staying with us at the time, who I was really close to. I am really close to it, and I was like, hey. She was older than me. I was like, can you pick me up from her house?

I don't want my mom to, like, pick me up. Because I had moments with my mom where I'd, like, go to a party or something, and I would have had, like, a couple sips of a drink, and she would get in the car and she would smell my breath. So I'm like, I can't have my mom pick me up right now. Like, she's gonna know. And my friends asked me to take all the empties and find somewhere to throw them out because she didn't want her mom to find them.

So my cousin comes to get me. I take all the bags of empties. We pull over into an Olive Garden parking

lot and find a dumpster, throw it

in the dumpster, and I'm, like, sitting in the car with her. And I was like, I need you to take me to church. Like, I have to go to youth group. That was, like, where I thought I needed to be because I felt so

What?

I just felt bad. I felt like I did something so wrong. Like, I got, like, wasted, and I'm hungover. I just felt like hell. So I was like, I need I need god.

To go to Spidey Jesus. Like, I need to go and that's, like, legit how I felt. I was like, I gotta go to, like, church. And then I remember I went to, like, youth group, and I was so hungover at the youth group that I was like, oh my god. I gotta go home.

Like, I can't be here right now. And that was, like, what my instinct was, like, I gotta go.

I gotta go to youth group after I get hammered for the first time in the basement. It's a classic.

Classic.

I feel like you are the sweetest angel and then there's No.

That's what's so funny about, like, me moving into New York City. It would be, like, Friday night I was, like, in Up and Down taking shots and then I was, like, going to church on Sunday, which I think is, like, so fine. I don't see, like, a problem with that. It's just the juxtaposition is really funny.

The fact that you just referenced up and down in New York, I think I've had the most disgusting Disgusting. Ratchet, amazing, awful nights of my life Yeah. In up and down. Like, 1 of the most your life, but also, like, great night.

Many, many traumatizing moments Absolutely. And great moment in Up and Down.

I had a couple of awful nights at Marquis, but, like, Up and Down specifically. You're, like, God bless. Thank you. Marquis. Oh, Marquis.

What was the 1 on the roof? PhD.

Oh, PhD. Hailey, you're like a normal human going to the ratchet spots. I'm obsessed. From I lived that was where I was from. I lived there.

Do you and Justin, like, go out and have fun still? Are you able to do that? Yeah. Okay.

We went out last night, to Delilah.

Oh, that's Which

is fun. There you go. Yeah. I think definitely both of us do not turn up the way we used to Yeah. Just simply because it's never worth the way you feel.

Absolutely not.

I feel like now I get hungover by accident. Mhmm. Like, I wasn't trying to. It was just like that last glass of wine. You shouldn't have done it.

I it's hard for me when I was 18 to 20, I felt like I was drinking 4 times my body weight and was fine.

A full, like, water bottle of vodka would be in my system. I'd be like, I'm cruising through the night.

I would wake up the next day, give me a bacon, egg, and cheese, and a blue Gatorade, and I'm fine. Hey.

Did you, like, rip that for me? Because that is my order, please and thank you. In New York, you go to a fucking bodega.

Get a bagel and a blue it had to be blue Gatorade. Always. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. The only.

Bacon, egg, and cheese on a croissant,

Blue Gatorade.

You're back.

You're fine.

Thriving. Never been better.