Transcript of Cheating in the most-polite sport, curling and what is "sledhead?"

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He told them to buzz off, but in stronger words, on live television. And this in the worlds of crawling was totally shocking.

Why this isn't the first time Canada's Curling Team has been accused of cheating. Plus, Olympic organizers on thin ice. They promised a sustainable Winter Games, but did they live up to that pledge? Npr's Ruth Sherlock will have that story. And have you heard of the term Sled head?

Even a slight impact on the wall could It would cause the brain to move within the skull.

Move within the skull.

And no helmet is going to protect you from that.

We'll talk about the risks to the brain athletes face when competing in high-speed sledding events. I'm E. Martinez, and this is up first, Winter Games.

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This is definitely not that big dramatic comeback moment. The giant slalom is not her best event. She was injured in this event a couple of years ago. That said, as she came by and talked with us, she looked incredibly upbeat, incredibly positive. She said she was really hopeful that she was within touching distance of the leaders. She's got one more event here, the slalom, which is her big race. That's going to come on Wednesday. This is her chance to bring home a medal of some kind for the US. We'll see if that can happen.

Normally, Actually, curling has a reputation for being one of the more, shall we say, polite sports at the Olympics. But now an alleged cheating scandal is rocking the Olympic Curling World, and things have gotten pretty heated between the men's Canadian and Swedish teams. Npr's Ping Wong, has more on to touch or not to touch. What is happening, Ping?

All right, A. In Curling, players throw a rock down a sheet of ice, and you have to release it before it gets to something called the hog line. If you don't release it before then, it gets disqualified, it gets burned, you're supposed to take it out of play. Now, the controversy here is over the allegation of a double touch. In a match on Friday, the Sweets accused a Canadian player of touching the stone after he released it, keeping his finger on the stone as it crossed the hog line, which is a big no in crawling.

Okay, so why does that matter? Why does this double touch matter so much?

Okay, so there's two things about the situation, A. Number one is the allegation itself, and number two is how the Canadians responded. For In some context, as you mentioned, curling is a super polite sport. There is something called the spirit of curling, which is like their code of ethics. It's all about good sportsmanship. One critical part of that is that if you have a violation, you need to call it yourself, you call your own foules. If a stone gets touched by anything after it crosses a hog line by a hand, a foot, a broom, you're supposed to call it on your own, you're supposed to call a violation and take it out of play. In this case, the Swede said that the Canadian player had touched the stone beyond the hog line and that he'd done it not just once, but several times over the course of the game.

Okay, so what's been Canada's response?

Okay, so the Canadians denied it, and then it got superheated. Canadian curler, Mark Kennedy, hurled an expletive at the Swede between the ninth and the 10th evening. He told them to buzz off, but in stronger words, on live television. This in the world of crawling was totally shocking because as you mentioned, it's a very polite sport. It's usually polite, wholesome, very family-friendly.

It's been a few days. What does Team Canada say about all this?

So Canada says that this was a strategy to get them off their game, and they have suggested that they continue to be persecuted. So on Saturday, Canada's women's team got a rock pulled for the same exact reason. And their skip, Rachel Homan, said that they might be getting targeted for having the maple leaf on their backs.

I got to admit, I've watched this highlight over and over again, at least 20, 30 times. He has his hand on the handle and then maybe drags his hand on the rest of it before doing the little touch. I mean, I guess, is that allowed or what are we actually discussing here?

So, A, I think the problem is that he was touching any part of the rock at all as it was passing the hog line. That was the main violation. His finger was still held on the line, according to the Swedes, not according to Canada, but according to the Swedes, as it crossed that green line that you see on the screen. And I will say also that after this, World Curling did issue a clarification of the rules which said that At no point during the game, should you ever be touching a rock in forward motion, you have to release it from the handle, obviously, but you should not be touching it afterwards. That was a clarification that they made after this whole scandal started.

The handle has a sensor, right? I mean, everyone would know once he lets it go.

Yeah, absolutely right. If he had been holding the sensor when it crossed the hog line, it would have gone off and the stone would have been automatically disqualified. But the issue here was that he let go of the sensor and was touching the stone as it crossed the hog line, according to the allegations here. Maybe Maybe our own eyes.

I'm going to watch it probably 50 more times before the Olympics is over.

Maybe you can figure this out, eh? You and all the Internet.

I'll come down with my own ruling, and everyone will have to live with it. Olympic officials, what have they said?

Okay, So they have responded. They said that they didn't see it happen during the match, so they couldn't call it a violation. They don't use video replay, so they're not going to go back and rejudicate it. But on Saturday, the World Curling official said that they had issued a warning to Canada for inappropriate appropriate language because of the swears that had gone through. And they also said that going forward, that they were going to be putting more officials into the game to watch the hog line as people were throwing their rocks. Now, another twist in this was that just yesterday, they said, Never mind, we're not going to do that. We talked with the teams and decided that the officials will be hanging around, but they're only going to be observing when they're invited to or when asked. So that's the latest on this, but that has not stopped the entire Internet from stepping in to adjudicate this. And I have to say the means have been That's amazing.

Can I say just one more thing? Because it's Canada, and Canadians are known around the world to be so nice. And then to see him mouth that word, I think it run a shock.

Total shock. Yeah, absolutely. And another thing, A, is that everyone says that the Canadians are really good at curling. They don't need to be cheating or even they shouldn't have the wisp of cheating anywhere near them. They're already so good. So, yeah, it's been a shock to the curling world for sure.

All right. Now, you're also covering speed skating, and this is one of my favorite sports. I love speedsters. Tell us what's going on with American Jordan Stolls because he is absolutely killing it there.

Yeah, he is completely on fire, A. It's been amazing. I watched the second of four races this weekend, and he came in first in the 500 meters. He set another Olympic record, his second at these Olympics, and he did it with Simone Biles watching the stand. So it has been amazing. He is now halfway to his goal of getting four gold medals at these Olympics. And He said that he was happy with the results after, but he also said that he was already looking forward to his next race, which is the 1,500 meters on Thursday.

All right, now, before I let you go, Ping, I heard that you actually struggled a little gold.

Yes. Thank you for letting me brag about this. I have gotten for myself the gold medal of pins here. I have gotten myself a Snoop Dogg pin, and this was the situation of being in the right place at the right time. So for a little context here, Olympic pin trading is huge. It's like its own Olympic sport, and it's something that both attendees and athletes are very fervent about doing. On Sunday, yesterday, I was on my way to the mix zone after the women's 500 meters. I was going to talk to some speed skaters after their race, and I happened to be out in the mix zone at the same time that Snoop Dogg and his entourage were leaving. He was like, I don't know, 10 feet ahead of me. I took a very blurry photo, but someone in the back of his entourage looked over at me, saw my NPR sweater. I don't know if that was what did it or not, but she handed me his pin, and now I have a Snoop Dog pin. It's pretty awesome.

So no gin and juice, but pin and juice. I'm trying here. I'm trying. I know.

I'm here for a day.

That's NPR's ping-wong, that makes a lot.

Thank you.

Well, in Italy's bid to host the Olympics, which is taking place in Milan and in towns across the Italian Alps, organizers promised that it would be an environmentally sustainable Olympics. In fact, they said they would actually use these games to highlight the importance of this sensitive Alpine mountain ecosystem and actually showcase how to protect it. But environmental groups are telling a different story. Npr's Ruth Sherlock is here to discuss. Ruth, you visited the town of Cortina. That's one of the main places where the Olympics is being held. Environmental activists are a little worried. Why?

Well, for many reasons, but one was that when we visited, their stands were being set up for the audience to watch the world's top skiers. But there was one thing conspicuously missing, which is snow. The mountain peaks were bare. There was was just yellow grass, and the only snow you could see really was on the peats, and that was artificial snow. The snowfall is getting less and less with climate change, with these shorter winters, and environmentally They say it's going to take huge amounts of energy and water to have this much artificial snow. In fact, official documents show they were estimating that for these Olympics, they may need as much as 380 Olympic swimming pools worth.

Wow. Yeah. Wow. It's funny because I've had friends of mine that love traveling the world looking for snow to ski on. They've been saying for years that snow is getting harder to find. Now, that amount of water, Ruth, that you mentioned, where are they getting it?

Well, this is the thing. They're having to take it from Alpine Spring and rivers in the area. An environmental activist took me to see one of the sites that they're drawing the water from, and it was this once pristine landscape just turned into a building site. There was bits of broken pipes and huge mounds of Earth and trees cut down, and they are taking gallons and gallons per second. The problem is, what is the impact on local biodiversity, on the local ecology? These rivers are already stressed by climate change and human use. The thing is, we don't know because the in-depth environmental assessment hasn't been done. In fact, that's the case A for about 60% of the some 98 infrastructure projects that have been approved for these games.

Yeah, 98. So close to 100. It sounds like a lot. And that's the thing with the Olympics. I mean, it does leave a big footprint. But when it comes to the landscape of this place, how is the Olympics changing the landscape?

Well, you know, Cortina is this traditionally tiny town, this jewel in the beautiful Dolomite, this UNESCO World Heritage Site. And when I was there, I counted about 20 cranes for different construction projects. So it will have an impact. The organizers had tried to say that they were going to try to use existing sporting equipment, existing arenas, existing sporting spaces, so that they don't have to rebuild them. That is the case, actually. They've managed to use existing structures in most cases. But one of the most controversial points is about the bobslay track in Cortina. There was hopes initially that they would use the bobslay track in Innsbruck, in nearby Austria. But Matteo Salvini, Italy's Deputy Prime Minister, he intervened and said, No, it's a point of national pride that we have this sport in Italy. And so they had to completely redo the bobsay track in Cortina, and that resulted in hundreds of larch trees being cut down from this old growth forest, and it now dominates the landscape. And some of these Infrastructure projects actually won't be finished for the Games. They were approved as part of a local development, and it's going to go on for years.

It involves new roads and even tunnels through the mountainside.

These projects, though, they are always sold as the benefit for the local area once the Olympics leave, and that'll be something that they can leave behind. But that sounds like it's going to be the legacy of these Games for better or worse.

That is certainly the hope to drive more economic development in these rural areas. But I spoke with a local councilor who's the head of the opposition in the local council there, and she said many people don't want this development because they worry it's going to transform this pristine rural landscape. In fact, she said the Olympics in 1956, the last time they were held in Cortina, the climatic conditions were right. They even had one of the ice-skating events on a frozen over lake. But here we are having to try to recreate the conditions with artificial snow. Then also back then, there was room for development for people to come to Cortina. But now the place is inundated with tourists already. On one single day, you can get like 3,000 people coming to this one lake for selfies because these places have been promoted on social media. She says maybe because of climate change, because of this over tourism, now isn't really the time to drive development to this area.

The price of a pretty selfie. It could be high, right? That's NPR international correspondent, Ruth Sherlock. Ruth, thanks a lot.

Thank you very much.

If you've ever seen the movie Cool Runnings, you know one of the major risks of sliding down the ice in a bobsled is crashing. These athletes are racing over 80, sometimes 90 miles an hour, and a crash is brutal on the body and brain. But there's a lesser known risk that's catching the attention of scientists, and that is the phenomenon known as Sledhead. Here's my conversation with Emily Wong, co-host of NPR's Science Podcast, Shortwave. All right, so Emily, besides bobsled, tell us about some of the other sliding sports.

Okay, so you got looge. That's where athletes are lying on their and initiating those turns with their very strong calves. Then there's skeleton, which I think has the coolest helmets in the Olympics because those athletes are racing headfirst.

Oh, they are very nice. Wow. Very arty. Very colorful as well. You mentioned aerodynamic, right?

The helmets are definitely aimed to get that racer, to get that athlete going as fast as possible. Cool as this looks, this sport, all these sports, they come with broken bones. They come with concussions, and one of the lesser known ailments, Sledhead.

Sledhead. I know what a deadhead is, someone that travels around with a grateful dead, but what's Sledhead?

Wow, my dad would really appreciate that joke. The umbrella term of Sledhead describes a wide range of symptoms. Every case is different, but on the list is dizziness, exhaustion, nausea, discomfort with bright lights or loud noises. Some people talk about cognitive problems, forgetfulness, emotional dysregulation issues. But what's so interesting to me about Sledhead is the culprit is not a crash. It's not anything dramatic. It's just the routine vibrational exposure and high G forces that these athletes are experiencing.

If someone's seen Top Gun, they might remember what G forces are, but remind anyone that hasn't.

Yeah. So G force is just the force felt by the body due to acceleration. So for you and me, just chilling in these office chairs, we feel- We feel G forces? We have Gs right now. Oh, all right. We're pulling bad Gs. One G.

One G?

Yeah, that's the force of gravity. But think about being in a car, going around a tight turn. The forces are more intense than that of Earth's gravity. You may They can get up to 2 Gs. For these Bob's letters, they are experiencing up to 5 Gs. It's like being on a massive roller coaster.

That's like just squishing your face, right? I mean, that's what that is, right?

It's intense. In fact, I want to show you a clip from the IBSF World Cup just a few weeks ago. This is the German team. They're super fast, and it's easy to just watch the speed, the athleticism. But think about the acceleration they're experiencing on those turns Their brains are going in multiple directions as they're being whipped around the track. I mean, this is not a smooth ride. I know that the ice looks smooth to us at home, but it's bumpy. The The concern is even a slight impact on the wall could cause the brain to move within the skull.

Move within the skull.

No helmet is going to protect you from that. No helmet is going to protect you from that. The concern for Peter McCarthy, he is a neurophysiologist at the University of South Wales, is what happens when the soft tissue of the brain moves in one direction and the skull moves in the other direction. There's also, of course, the issue of nerve tissue stretching. It's not just your brain, it's your brain stem, which connects your brain to your spinal cord. That's important for your whole nervous system. All these impacts, they add up.

They add up. Okay, so how do they add up?

Well, think about the fact that these athletes, when they are training, they are doing these runs multiple times a day. They're competitive. They want to get as good as possible. They want to practice. If they have a high G force run, which, by the way, the sport wouldn't be monitoring for. No one's tracking G forces on the track. So they're getting exposure to these forces. Maybe they don't know, maybe they have some floodhead, but they're like, I'm going to keep going. If their coaches don't pull them and they're not recovering from those races, the concern for scientists is that the accumulated trauma can create long-term damage. This is creating a real conversation in the sliding sports because over the last 15 years, there have been a number of high-profile suicides and drug overdoses from retired athletes, some of whom have had brain health issues. The question is, how can we make the sport maybe safer when the federations that oversee it, they're looking out for concussions for sure, but are they monitoring Sledhead in the same way?

Wait, so why wouldn't it be the same thing, Sledhead in concussions?

Yes. Okay, this is the number one mystery for me working on this story. I found a neuropsychologist named Alia Snyder, who used to be a skeleton athlete, and she's made it her mission to work with athletes on issues like this. She treats athletes for Sledhead. What she says it is subconcussive impacts.

Subconcussive.

I know. We're getting real doctor here. Those are hits that don't lead to brain damage outright, but maybe create gradual wear and tear on the brain and the nervous system. The concern for her is that over time, it prevents your body from tolerating the stress of the sled and can create exponential damage down the line.

That sounds like it could be a career ender for people.

It was for Alia. She had to medically retire after just two years of competing, and she loved it. She used to be a sailor. She loved the speed of skeleton. It felt very right to her, but her brain couldn't tolerate it. She said, I loved the sport, but the sport did not love me. It inspired her to become a doctor. That's pretty cool. Now she basically treats athletes for their sled head. She rehabilitates them, and she said that's totally possible if sled head is caught and taken seriously early.

Wait, taking serious? Why wouldn't that be taken seriously?

Well, I think What might need to happen is culture change within the sport. The governing bodies for the sport are aware of sled head. There's been press coverage of it. In fact, the British Bobslay and Skeleton Association, last I heard, has a study that they're doing right now involving concussion and concussive-like symptoms. That's a step in the right direction, but maybe the sport needs to change. Peter McCarthy says we could attach sensors on the helmets. That would allow us to know the G force exposure of athletes. We've seen again and again in these games, A, that athletes will happily compete injured if glory or money or Fame or their lifelong dream is on the line. Unless there's some regulatory change or culture change within the sliding sports, Sludhead is just going to continue.

Well, the NFL actually has made some strides a little bit on concussions. With CTE. With CTE, right.

Yes, that's the degenerative brain disease. It's different than what we're talking about, but it's the same internal recognition within the sport that is what drew my attention to this story, and I think these scientists to this very under-researched topic, Sludhead.

Npr's Emily Quang. She co-hosts NPR's Science Podcast. Shortwave. Emily, thanks.

Thank you so much. I'm E.

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