Transcript of Moving, Pregnancy Symptoms & Making a Will

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Are we this big announcement right now?

I can't even believe this is happening.

It's not officially bought. Things could hit the fan right now and we could lose it, but they accepted our offer. It's happening. Your friends at the gym today were trying to get you to take a pregnancy test.

There's no way.

What's crazy, though, is we have friends that got pregnant on an IUD. I know, but It is 99.9% effective, but there's still that 0.1%..

Creating the will, the questions are shocking. They're very shocking. If you're in a vegetative state, are we allowed to pull the plug? Who's allowed to make that decision? There's a lot of things involved in making a will that are not financial in the least.

What's up, dudes? And welcome back to the Unplanned podcast. I'm your host, Matt, as well as we have another host as well. I'm a host. We're co-hosts of this thing. Okay.

I feel like I'm your guest.

Really?

I don't know. You're very good at leading conversations. I am not the best at it.

I don't know. I think you're very good at connecting with people, and I think you have very strong empathy.

Thank you. I feel that. I just don't think I'm good at directing your conversation, if that makes sense.

I don't know. I think you're a very good interviewer. Tom.

You guys- It's been a while since we've done a solo episode.

It has. It's good to be back. We were just talking before we started recording. I was at the store yesterday looking for baked sour cream and cheddar- Ruffles. Ruffles. Ruffles yesterday. And Abby was having this weird craving for them and was not feeling good.

No, you guys. It was the weirdest thing. I woke up at 2:00 AM, two nights ago, so nauseous. I was like, If I even lift my pinkie finger, I'm going to bomb. So I did not move. I had to go to the bathroom, and I was like, no, I cannot move. I will throw up. So I just was up in the night, so nauseous. I fight throwing up with everything in me because my body does I don't know how to vomit. And I know there's a lot of people like me where it's like, we fight it because it is such a uncomfortable experience. I would say it's more uncomfortable than the average person. I pop blood vessels all in my face, in my eyeballs, in my neck.

I didn't see that. No, no, no.

When I throw up.

Okay. Okay, yes.

You can vouch for me, though. It's dramatic when I throw up. I can't help that. My body doesn't know how to do it properly. So for me, it's like, I don't want to be dramatic, but I think it's worse than the average person's experience vomiting. So I avoid it at all costs. So I'm like, I'm not going to move. I'm not going to move. I wake up the next morning, still feel the same way. Yesterday, I probably took like 500 steps max. Wouldn't you say? I never do that.

I know. You're always on the go. And so it was actually shocking I'm trying to see you.

It was weird, right? I'm not saying I'm super tough or anything, but I try to keep moving even when I'm not feeling well, just because I think it tricks my brain into feeling better. Yesterday was literally not an option. I was so, so nauseous. I mean, I guess if I had to, I probably would have moved. But I moved from the bed to the tub to the couch, back to the bed.

That's all I did. And so your friends at the gym today were trying to get you to take a pregnancy test.

I know. Everyone's like, take a test, take a test, take a test. I'm like, there's no... I'm saying there's no way. We have an IUD.

What's crazy, though, is we have friends that got pregnant on an IUD.

I know, but like- But it is 99.9%.

Effective, but there's still that 0.1%..

Matt, when I tell you, I was like, I've only felt this way when I was pregnant, but this was worse than that. I was so...

Because it last all day- I could tell. You were down bad yesterday.

I was down bad, and I had no other symptoms. There was no fever. I didn't actually ever vomit. And I didn't feel bad in any sense, except for extreme nausea. And literally, it was so weird. I couldn't eat anything. I had literally no appetite at all. Very strange for me. And then all of a sudden, I was laying there on the couch. I was like, something I could eat is baked sour cream and cheddar muffles. And I was like, because it was so specific, I literally almost cried when he told me that they didn't have them at the store. I was like, maybe I am pregnant.

There's no way. Maybe there's just an illness sweeping through our entire family because your brother's been sick, your dad's been sick. One of our kids threw up the other day. I probably I probably had a concussion last week at the gym, and now my head really hurts. I don't know if my head hurts really bad still from the concussion or from the sickness that everyone in your family has. I don't know what it is, but something's going on. And you got sick, too.

Mommy played it today, and I was telling this other mom about all my symptoms, and she was like, Maybe it's because of ovulation. Because ovulation post babies can make you really nauseous, apparently. Really? Yeah. So maybe that's what it is. I don't know.

That's actually really interesting.

Which is weird, though, because I have heard a lot of people talk about how periods are so much It's just different post baby. But apparently, ovulation might be... I don't know. I literally don't know what it is. I have no way of tracking that stuff because I don't really even get a period. But I feel better today. I'm like, let's just keep the ball rolling. And I went to the gym and I ate normal. I forced myself to eat. I couldn't eat first thing in the morning, so I took a Tupperware to this play date to heat up in the microwave, so I made sure I ate.

So speaking of the gym last week- Yeah, you have to tell this story. I went to Abby's gym for the whole entire week. I was determined to go through the end of the week because on Saturday is one of the hardest classes that they do at Abby's gym. Okay, so at the gym, they don't- It's typically metabolic conditioning on Saturdays, which is really intense. Yes.

They do high cardio days on Saturdays because they only have three classes. So the class sizes are much, much bigger. So they don't want everyone to have to have equipment. And those days tend to be way more exhausting because it's all about getting your heart rate up. Yeah.

So anyway, I was making a whole YouTube video out of it for my channel, which is something I've been having a lot of fun with. I did a morning routine where I woke up at 5:00 AM for an entire week. I love your videos. Abby did that, too. The reason I did that video is because Abby did it, and I was like, okay, crap.

I still haven't gotten my video posted. Hopefully by the time this podcast is up, I'm the worst.

Maybe they could go watch it by the time this podcast is up.

I'm the worst social media person in the world.

No, you're great. But what crazy thing happened, though, on Tuesday is I pushed myself a little too hard in the ab workout. Abby wasn't there. She was gone on a trip. And And I fell back on my head at the end of the workout thinking that I was just going to hit the spongy mat that we were on.

But there was a kettlebell right behind my head. He has it on camera because he's recording a YouTube video, but he went limp with exhaustion, smacked his hand on his kettlebell. And the video really doesn't do justice for how injured you were.

It really hurt. I just sat there for a second like, wow, I have not hit my head that hard in a very long time. And then I confirmed that I hit my head really hard when a lady came up to me and said, Excuse me, sir, your head's bleeding. That's so bad. There was a lot of blood. I went to the bathroom, and sure enough, there was just blood gushing down the back of my head. And it looked like it was weird. It looked like almost fake. Yeah, because it was orange. It was so bright red. It looked like I took something from spirit of Halloween or whatever and squirted it on the back of my head.

I think it's because it was mixed with sweat. It was like...

But something that I thought of is when you watch a movie and someone shot in the head. That sounds so bad. But there's a gruesome scene in a movie. It may... Your head has a craps ton of blood in it. So it makes sense that blood would just spill out in a dramatic action movie like that, because I just smacked my head on a kettlebell. It didn't even have anything crazy happen, and it was gushing out of the back of my head.

Are you just thinking about movies with head blood gushing because of Monsters?

Maybe a little bit. We have been watching Monsters on Netflix about the Nendas Brothers.

Wait, before we move on to that topic, I do want to tell you, I have to admit, I'm a bad caretaker to you in your sense. I'm just like, for me, I'm like, Let's just keep moving. Let's suck it up. Kind of like how I normally do when I'm sick. I expect you to do the same thing. But then when I was so down bad yesterday, I was like, Man, Matt probably could have used some more recovery from that concussion. So I feel bad. You just powered through because like Matt said, he got that concussion when I was away on a trip for a 48-hour work trip. And then you just had to keep single parenting with a head wound.

Which we don't know for sure if it was. I don't know how you officially get diagnosed. I don't get headaches, really. And I have had a constant headache ever since I smacked my head. You definitely did. And it feels a lot like what happened when I did officially go to the doctor and get diagnosed six years ago, the summer that I proposed to Abbey.

Wow, that was six years ago.

I got a concussion while I was working at McDonald's. Not on the job, but it was like I was in Orlando in this leadership training camp, and me and this guy, we were just young and being stupid, and he shoved my head into a cabinet. It's fun. And I got a concussion from that. So, yeah, anyway. Who was that? Thanks, Ryan. I'm not going to say the last name. Somebody will know. I don't even know that guy. Anyway. But, yeah, I just stayed in a dark room and I couldn't go to work at McDonald's for a couple of days because of how bad it was. But I haven't really gotten that chance now because when you're a parent, you can't really just turn off. I know.

And sick days are never fun, but they're even less fun when you're a parent because you feel so guilty for not playing with them, for them getting extra screen time.

We're really lucky because we have each other, right? Yeah. Think about you get a concussion or you get really sick and you're a single parent. What the freak do you do? I don't know what you do. Hopefully, you have family. Hopefully, maybe you have the support of daycare. But even then, it's like, daycare is expensive. There's a lot of stuff. So parents, I actually saw there was a creator that made a video. I'm blanking on her name, but She was talking about how Flamingos, when they have babies, they lose their pink because they're getting so much of their baby, and then eventually, they get their pink back. And I thought that was so cool. You just now heard about that stuff? I'd never heard about that before.

Do you know that she's doing a thing now? Because her first fundraiser was for breast cancer, and now I'm not going to... I don't know all the details of it, but she's doing, Get your pink back, but the eye of the pink is the breast cancer ribbon. That's really cool. And so she's doing new sweatshirts, and I want to get it because I love that.

That's actually really cool. I resonate Resonated with that a lot.

Oh, you resonated. I think about mom's resonating with that. That's literally her explaining that. I was like, That is literally what I went through. And I feel like so many moms go through where you're just like, I don't have my identity right now. I'm nothing. I'm literally just serving this child. And then I feel like a loss of identity. And then you finally get your identity back and start to enjoy the same things that you used to enjoy beforehand. But for a while there, I literally felt like I couldn't... Anything that I thought was enjoyable or fun before, I was like, this isn't fun. This is terrifying. So, yeah. Anyway, change the subject there. But I'm glad that you could relate to her, too, because it's a thing getting your pink back.

Yeah. I thought that was really, really cool.

But anyway- Wait, how did you relate again?

Because Because as a parent, you give so much to your kids, and then you lose yourself. You're like, who the freak am I anymore? You're like, what do I like to do?

I don't know. When we were talking Head Wings, though, that reminded me of Monsters, which has been... We're really not big TV show people.

For a little bit, we had a really sweet phase where we were reading books together in bed, and I ended up- You left that phase. I ended up ending that phase. I'm still in that phase. I'm sorry. I started reading a book.

I've been in that phase my entire life.

My book sucks, though. I started reading a book that I just did not care about, and I think they just stretched the series way too long. Okay? So for me, I was like, this book was, in my opinion, a cash grab, which I respect the hustle. The author was like, hey, people love the series. Why not make another one? But the book just sucked. And I try to finish the book- What's keeping you from picking up a different book? So I tried to, actually. I started reading It by Stephen King.

So you're telling me that it entered you into a book slump?

It did. And so now I've been watching TV shows Which led us to start watching Monster on Netflix.

So we're not a big TV show, people. I think that it's hard to just... I think it's a bad trap to get into as a married couple to put the kids to bed and then you watch a show together. Because when your kids are, they there, then you can still connect to a degree, but you really can't get very deep with your partner or your spouse. So then to turn on a TV show and numb out and not talk and just be entertained, then you're not really... What do they say about relationships? If If you're not growing deeper, then you're growing apart. Yeah.

If you're not growing together, you're growing apart.

Growing apart.

Yeah. That sounds right.

It's okay. There's a time and a place for that. But with TV shows, it's hard because it sucks you in, and you just want to always watch the show.

I will say, though- But this one's only eight episodes, right?

Sometimes.

I think life is all about balance. Exactly. And when you can have a balanced life, I think that's the key to happiness right there, right? You need everything in moderation, just a balance. And when you're watching too much TV, I find myself like, I need to do something else. I'm like, I need to go do literally anything else but this. So I think your body can self-moderate if you've been watching too many TV shows at night, because then that led us to start playing games. We started playing Monopoly Deal again, which I love that game. It was one of our favorite card games in college that we'd play at a coffee shop near a university.

It's a really good, quick game.

And I feel like we really connected over that card game.

I need to say quick because most people, when they hear Monopoly, they're like, Oh, heck, no, that's so long. But Monopoly The deal is totally different. It's like 10 minutes. It's really quick.

You can play a game in like 10 minutes. I beat you every time the other night. Back to Monsters, though. It really has made me rethink. When you hear someone being murdered, your instinct is to be like, Wow, that murderer must be a monster, right? The title of the show. They must be a horrible person. But you get into the show, and let me preface this by saying, Apparently, the show isn't completely-Yeah, I want to give a disclaimer.

Apparently, it's not-Completely accurate. I think there's a lot of inaccuracies in it, actually.

I was talking to my friend at the gym today about it, and he actually told me that, apparently, this is what he said, but apparently, the director or producer of the show wanted it to show a bunch of different theories about what could have happened or all these different speculations.

It wasn't presented that way.

Exactly. So I think you watch it and then you start to think, Oh, this is factual. This is all true. But it's really all these speculations thrown together into one show. That's what I heard.

Yeah. I will say, yeah, disclaimer on that We should watch a real documentary. See, this one was clearly for entertainment.

Well, you know by the time- And it is entertaining. I think by the time this episode is out, they're going to have the documentary with the Menendez brothers of themselves talking about it coming on the Netflix.

So that's good. I'd be interested. But also, are they credible? They're like, murderers.

I know. But I will say, though, when you watch the show- I don't want to hear their side of it. At least we're at the show. We haven't finished the show yet. But you really start to hear about the abuse that these boys faced from their parents, especially their father.

And it makes you- You know what? I heard the mom participated, too.

It just makes you sick.

I'm sitting there like- I have goosebumps thinking about it. I literally have... I can't even go there.

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That's B-O-M-B-A-S. Com/unplanned. Code unplanned at checkout. How screwed up would your worldview be if something like that was done to you? You wouldn't know your right from your left. You wouldn't know anything. So it makes sense Seeing that, why they would do that. And also, I've said my buddy at the gym, if you're watching a movie, okay, let's pretend this is like you're watching a movie and the main character is being abused. Let's just keep it at that. It's way worse. I'm saying abuse, it's way worse than just that. You can go look it up for yourself. But what happened to these people, at least from what I've seen and heard, horrible. So say in the movie, someone's being abused by a parent for eight straight years, multiple times a month for years, and then they unalive their parent. You're like, Yeah. In the movie, you'd be like, I'm glad the main character did that. Obviously, murder is not okay, but you can empathize with that main character then in the movie to be like, They needed out of that. That was so dark. But the way the show is presented when it starts is you see them as these rich kids who commit this crime.

And it looks like-They appear to be sociopaths.

Exactly. And they appear, it's like they just did it for money. And so your whole view of them gets flipped upside down while you're watching the documentary.

Even through the lens of abuse, obviously... Yeah, I don't know.

Sorry. I feel like we're spoiling some of the show, but you can still watch- No, it's a true...

It happened a while ago.

Yeah, it happened a long time ago.

I will say, too, they were adults living with their parents. They could have gone away. Even in the show, it said that they hadn't experienced an abuse for over a month. It wasn't like they were an imminent danger. They premeditated that, and they planned that.

That's true, too. You also have to recognize they were adults. They weren't stuck in the house. I think Gipsy Rose, when the whole thing happened with her, was she still a kid or was she an adult at that point?

I think she was a kid. I don't think she was 18. I don't think she even knew how old she was.

With these They were always being adults at the time, right? They were high school, college age. 18 and 21, I think. I think they were 18 and 21. That's what you told me. I never fact-checked that, but they could have just left.

And they were filthy rich. They had resources.

What was their money, though? It was their parents' money.

They were spending it.

Anyway. But you can't just... There's truth to the fact that if your parents are super rich, you can't just leave your parents and expect for them to pay for everything for you, especially if your dad is an abusive father. There's no way they would have had any support from their parents. They would have been out on their own working at some fast food place, trying to pay rent, probably, if they left, which still doesn't justify their actions. But it wasn't- I'm just playing devil's advocate because there's laws They're venting people for murder for a reason.

Obviously, I pity them so much for what they went through, and that's horrible.

I think we can all agree that it's not okay, but you can start to empathize with someone when you see the absolute nightmare that they lived through, because I've been fortunate enough to not have an abusive parent. I don't know. I have no idea what that would be like, especially at that level. I cannot imagine. I don't know what I would do to try to get out of that situation.

Totally. And the thing is, is from the show's perspective, what is true and what is not true, I'm interested after finishing the series to find out what of it was. We've been fact-checking it as we go. But from an entertainment perspective, it's very entertaining. The acting is really good.

That scene that we watched last night.

It's like the whole episode is 35 minutes. It's uncut.

Okay. So you guys, one of the episodes, like Abby just said, is uncut. I think they did a couple takes to make sure they got it right. Really? That's, again, what I've heard. I don't know. I don't know. But it is just insane that they memorized all these lines and did this whole scene I mean, completely uncut, just a slow zoom in on the characters. Wow. It takes your breath away.

Well, I mean, he literally looks like a real person having these thoughts for the first time. And that right there is an amazing actor. I was like, he doesn't even... It didn't feel scripted at all. It felt so genuine. And he's a cute guy.

He's a very attractive guy.

He's an attractive dude.

I actually saw a TikTok. No, it was an Instagram reel pop up, and it was this lady saying me wanting to watch a documentary or whatever, It was just trying to play it off like they were just getting educated or something. And then it was just all these thirst trap shots of the brothers. They're good-looking dudes. They're good-looking dudes. You can't ignore that. I felt very seen when the main character had a toupee. When you see- You don't have a toupee. I don't have a toupee, but I'm like, Hey, that's representation for male pattern baldness right there on the show. Where did you make that connection there? I don't know.

Where did you make that connection there? I don't know. I think that guy is actually bald now. That's the thing that's so... Yeah, I don't think they're like- In real life. I don't think they're keeping up with this toupee in prison, which is actually so wild. They're our parents' age, and they're just in prison. I'm guessing they watched the documentary. I don't know what their privileges look like in prison, but I heard that they watched it and were very displeased with it.

Okay, that actually threw me off.

That has to be so weird. They're married.

They're in prison, and they're married. I didn't know that you could just get married to someone that's not in prison while you're in prison.

Dude, apparently, it's like a fetish to be turned on by someone in prison. I think it's mostly like men that are imprisoned and that women find it like, attractive.

That is wild.

For me, I'm like, that seems like that could be the most glaring red flag that could ever be.

And they're serving life sentences, too. So it's like, what's the point of being married if you can never- Here's the other thing.

It It shouldn't be for the money because I guarantee that they don't get the money from the will if they're the ones that killed the parents. I shouldn't be making light of that situation. But we did just sign our first will.

Which is morbid, but it makes I feel a lot better now. I know. If we ever fly to go interview someone on the podcast if we're on the flight, I'm like, Man, if this plane crash, I want to make sure that our stuff would go to our kids. I don't know. It feels comforting to know that we have that document in place now.

No, I thought that whole process would really make me feel morbid, eerie, thoughts of death. No. Actually, as we're going through it, even though the questions are shocking. They're very shocking. If you're in a vegetative state, are we allowed to pull the plug? Or who's allowed to make that decision? Things like that. Do you want CPR? There's a lot of things I was in making a will that are not financial in the least. A lot of end-of-life health questions. And obviously, child custody things. Anyway, there's a lot of ones that could be perceived as really dark. But in general, the creating the will process made me feel so much more peace.

It was weird, though, with the will, making decisions on, okay, if you ever are in a vegetative state, do you want the plug to be pulled on you? It was just weird answering all those questions.

Yeah. Well, also, you want to be cremated. I'm sitting there thinking about things really quickly.

We're getting cremated. I was like, yeah. We decided that.

It happened really quick. All those decisions. I'm like, I mean, realistically, my physical body, I don't care about once I die. Really. Yeah. So all those decisions came relatively easy. But it's just such a weird... It is a little weird, but also I felt a lot of comfort having that in place.

Well, haven't you heard of those stories of people that donate their body once they die, and then their organs are able to save 20 people's lives because they use a liver here and a lung here?

I think it goes against some people's religious beliefs, which is why they probably have a lot of maybe hesitancy on it. But yeah, there's a lot of things that we had to decide and maybe hug the boys a little tighter when we got back home. But I know that they're in amazing hands if something drastic were to happen. I never thought I would talk this casually about my own death, but yeah, I guess here we are.

Yeah. Speaking of the boys, and with it now being October, do we have a plan for the family Halloween costume this year?

We really need to do better because last year... Well, actually last year, adorable, but we weren't really involved. Here's the thing.

I've never-Oh, yeah. We had Woody. Wait, was- Woody and Bullseye. Oh, he was Bullseye. That's right.

So here's the thing about me. I am a festive person. I love festivities. I love holidays. I love doing everything that's just related to the season. I'm not clearly a planner, and I'm not a DIY girl. So Halloween is tough for me because I'm also realistic with things. I'm like, I don't want to buy an adult costume to wear for... I don't know. In theory, I like it, but in practice, I don't.

You know what I've been inspired, though, by? What? When you see the super esthetic Instagram families that everyone is a part of the theme. I think that looks so sick.

No, I totally admire it.

Just for the photo. Just for the picture, I'm like, I know that sounds so silly, but how sick is that? You go back at your family photos and you're like, Bro, we were all- I think about the Bucketlist family.

They crushed it. The Fishman, I feel like the LeBrance. All them are so... Here's the thing. I admire it. I'm not going to knock it at all. I don't think I can do that.

Can we do it maybe this year? Maybe we send it this year. What if we're all astronauts or something. Maybe our kids are aliens and we're astronauts. I don't know. Something like that would be fun.

See what? I really, really want Griffin and Augie to be Timone and Pumba.

They are Timone and Pumba.

Let's do Lion King theme. I guess we could be Nala Nala and Simba.

Yeah, that's true. I was thinking like, man- But I was thinking about that.

I was like, that's pretty difficult.

I feel like I would be scared to do a Lion King theme family costume. I know. Me too. I don't want to accidentally appropriate some culture. I know. But dressing up like an animal, I think it's pretty safe. So I think if we- You just get a mane. If I'm a lion, I think I'm not going to get- What am I going to do as Nala? I don't know. Because for a second, I was like, Oh, I could be the monkey. But then for some- Rafeeki? The guy who does the paint on people. Rafeeki. And I could be Zazu. Who the heck is Zazu? I forget who that is. Shut up. Don't even- The Bird. Zazu is the Bird. Yes. I haven't watched that movie in probably 20 years.

Where have you been the last 50 times Griffin's watched it?

I listened to the soundtrack about Every Day of My Life, but I have not watched the actual movie. Okay.

Griffin and Auggie are so Timone and Pumba. It's ridiculous that I'm like, I have to make this happen. Guess what? There's no costume online. And I was on this Disneyland trip last week, and And Haley on the trip, she's amazing at DIY. She's like, Oh, you can totally make that. And I'm like, I don't think you know who you're talking to. I can't do that. And she was telling me how I could do this. And she showed me her costume, how I could do the same thing with foam from the craft store I'm like...

You know what costume we did two years ago? That was a total L. Horrible. Totally L.

Banana?

The picture is still up on Abby's Instagram, and my Instagram, too. It was horrendous. Shocking. You in that banana suit, that was so funny. And then me as... Was that supposed to be- The man in the yellow hat. Originally, I was the man in the yellow hat. But you bought just a random black hat and bought some spray paint to spray paint this. What was the material? We tried to spray paint it. It looked horrible. I don't know, suede? I don't think it was suede. I don't know.

It was just crappy material. And here's the thing. I'm just not good at that stuff, man. I'm not a DIY girl.

You know what? It's okay. Maybe this is the year that we take the reins of our life and have an esthetic family costume. I actually DIY my costume as a kid, and I tried to look like a monster, and it was very scary.

I had a stump. I think about that a lot. I don't want our kids to ever be anything scary for Halloween.

Yeah, that was a freaky costume. I had just gone to a haunted house with my dad, and I thought all the people there looked so cool and gory, and I was like, I want to make one for myself.

But see, think about it, Matt. You were trick or treating with little kids on Halloween.

That was weird. I was 12, so I I was in that weird stage of I was still a kid, but I was getting older, so I wanted to be cool.

And I didn't know that- You scared so many toddlers.

I definitely did scare some people.

Is it wrong then to let your kid... I guess it's not wrong because it's Halloween And that's the whole deal. It's supposed to be spooky. But then me, I'm being all sensitive because I have a two-year-old and a one-year-old. I'm like, I don't want them to scare them. But then I guess those kids stay out till nine o'clock, whereas my kids will be in bed for two hours at that point. I don't know. It'll be fun. We'll figure something out. So you want to do a family costume?

I think we should. Okay. I think we should. And I think it would be cute and fun. Maybe I could be Scar. And I think we should get family photos of our costumes.

Wow. Okay. Well, I'm going to add that to my to-do list.

Hey, maybe it's a thing we do together. We should do it together. It doesn't have to be like Abby's to-do list.

How's your DIY skills?

I haven't really used them since I was twelve, but I think they're in there somewhere.

I'm not going to have to really dig deep because I thought for sure, Etsy would have something. No, it didn't.

I think these people that do these fancy costumes, I think they just do it themselves. I know. Unless they're friends with some LA costume our person, but that's not... We need to call Eli. Many people don't have a friend like that. I don't. That would be cool if you had friends like that. Thank you to Betterhelp for sponsoring this portion of today's episode. You guys, this year was the very first year that I went to therapy a personal session, and it actually was through Betterhelp. And I am so thankful that I made the jump to do that because I feel like it's so easy as a guy to stuff in your feelings and try to put on this tough guy mask when really deep down, There's a lot more going on. Therapy is an amazing place to open up and talk through those emotions, talk through all those feelings that you have. If you're thinking of starting therapy, give Betterhelp a try. It's entirely online, designed to be convenient, flexible, and suited to your schedule. Just fill out a brief questionnaire to get matched with a licensed therapist and switch therapists at any time for no additional charge.

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What are you listen to?

Espresso? Espresso was the one that got me into the music. And there was another song from four years ago that played on my Spotify, which I did not realize was by her. And I was like, Ah, that's how she got on the map was that song. How does it go? I literally cannot even think of it right now. I just remember. I was like, Wow, that song is from a while back, and I did not know that was her. But then she made this new one, and I literally am blanking on it, but I've been playing it. It's one of her top performing songs right now, and I just keep listening it on repeat. I actually do that. When I find a song that I love, I will binge that song over and over and over and over again.

I do that, too, but you get more sick of it than I do. I play the same song since we first got married. I played Johnny Swim literally every single week.

See, my news cycle in my head for music goes faster. I'll do a week of the same song, and then I'm done. I never want to hear the song ever again.

My last 10 years, I still am not tired of Johnny Swim. I love them. Guys, look at Johnny Swim. If they did a concert, you should me there.

Wait, that would actually be sweet. That would be so sweet.

We're going to a concert this weekend. We are? A country concert.

That's funny.

With another couple.

We haven't really been to concerts together. You know why I don't like concerts? Because you get claustrophobic. Yes.

And I'm like, what if there's a fire? How are you all going to get out of here? And also I get tired of standing, and I never know the words.

You know what's sad? What? Is I actually love concerts. I love only... And I've only been to two.

Well, that's what I'm taking you to one on Sunday. Okay.

But my vibe, which I would love to experience more of, is- Medium. Being in the mosh pit, being deep. Okay. This standing room only, just surrounded by people, and it's just everyone's dancing.

When we did that last time, I got groped twice.

And that was very unfortunate. It was horrible. Also, that was Vegas. We were in Vegas.

I got groped in Vegas twice. Okay, so what happened, what Matt's talking about, is why I don't like mosh pits. I never liked them to start with, to be fair. But then after this experience, I really hated them. They put out these, what's that called? The fog. They made the fog really, really intense. Turn the lights off at one part, really intense part of the song. And both times it happened, two or three times it happened, someone honked my boobs.

I guess you never told me that, but I guess you couldn't- You couldn't hear me. That's what it was. I couldn't hear you. I was screaming, I was like, Got to get out of here.

And you were like, What?

So you kept saying, We got to get out.

I was saying, I want to leave. But I didn't want to leave without you. And so I finally got you out. And I was like, Matt, this horrible thing happened.

I wish you would have just said, Someone grabbed my boob. I wish you would have said that to me because I've been like, I'm going to go fight somebody. Don't fight someone in Vegas for me. I would have. I'm like, you do not do that.

You do not do that to a woman. I don't want you to fight anybody. Okay.

But I think your words were like, I want to go. And I'm like, this is so fun. I was having the time of my life.

Well, no, you still left pretty soon.

Yeah, we left pretty quick.

I think I told you. I was like, no, we have to go. And then, yeah. And so we left because we actually did have a table. And so we went back to the table and I told you. But it was like, that was just more fuel for the fire for me to be like, this is why I hate mosh pits. But I already didn't like them because the fire hazard, the claustrophobic. I'm so claustrophobic. We never talk about that.

I also need to recognize, too. I'm 6, too. So I'm a head taller than most of you.

You're getting fresh air up there.

So I'm getting the fresh air.

I'm getting the farts down below at the five foot level.

I had literally no idea any of that even happened. And I'm 10 feet from this world famous DJ, and there's fog and music. And it just felt like I was literally in a movie. It literally was like, this is so sick, so cool.

I totally understand. You were having the time of your life.

And I think that's the only time. Other than when I went to 21 Pilots when I was in high school, I haven't really... I've never been a concert person. We did go to Macklemore on a whim.

We were at- With a bunch of divorce 50-year-olds that were so drunk at a golf tournament.

We were in Scottsdale. We just went and got dinner with some friends in Scottsdale. That was such a weird vibe. They happened to have extra tickets, and we're like, Okay, sure. We will go to this.

And he didn't even do Thrift Shop.

And I don't know why Macklemore would not do Thrift Shop.

I think we missed it. I think it must have been his very first song.

Because we came to the tail end of the concert.

Yeah, but I'm like, you got to end with Thrift Shop if you're Macklemore.

I know. I was really hoping that was going to be the encore, right?

It was ridiculous. No, that was fun because there was more space, but I was getting splash with beer left and right. And then what's the other concert we went to? Oh, we went to Connor Price.

That was fun. You're right. Yeah.

We went to go see. I got so tired. Yeah.

Our friend Graham was there. That was cool. Yeah.

That was fun.

Yeah.

So we have been to a few, but really, in the grand scheme of things, I would not say we are categorized as concert people at all.

There's people that will just go to a concert every month. I know.

Some people spend their entire paycheck on concerts because they love it that much.

But I can understand that. It is a really cool atmosphere. No, I can't understand it. Okay.

I don't get it. I'm like, of all All the way is to spend your money.

So someone would have to pay you to go to the concert?

I wouldn't go that extreme. If we're going, this one on Sunday, they had extra tickets. So we're going, and I'm like, It's free. I'll go. But if I have money, I'm going to go to the spa.

Okay. What about I want to be checked into the spa with a massage and just my book in a pool. See, I'd rather go to a concert than go to a spa. You're crazy. I'm serious. Oh, my gosh.

Comment down below. Would you rather go to a concert or a spa?

I love entertainment. I love storytelling. I think it's so cool to see what humans are capable of when it comes to telling a story in a different way, especially when it's like, wow, I've never seen lighting used in that intricate way before. Or music. So cool, especially like concert. Sometimes people are like flying in the air, right? They'll be like levitating through. There's like a wire on their back and they're in a harness, and they're just floating across the crowd. That stuff is so sick. I think that's so cool.

You know, I flew through the air.

You Did. You were- As a flying monkey. That was the show that we met. That was when we first became friends. Yeah.

And a performance of Azure of Oz. I was a flying monkey, and I flew through the air. Yeah. That's fun for me. I'm not afraid of heights. I'm afraid of close spaces.

The opposite. You know that my dream ever since I was a kid was to also fly in the air in a show. And it's what got me in the theater because I saw Peter Pan, and I was like, I want to fly. That's so cute. Never happened. I've never flown, ever. But maybe one day, you're too heavy. Maybe one day I'll get cast as Peter Pan. Probably not.

He's the hugest Peter Pan I ever saw.

They always cast a woman for Peter Pan.

I got a crow. I could be Peter Pan.

You actually would be great because you're very athletic and you're tiny and you could do all... I feel like you have a gymnast build. You would be able to figure out all the gymnast moves for Peter Pan.

I also hope you weren't offended when I said you'd be too heavy for their lifting system. No, I was not offended. You're always trying to get heavier. I feel like so many wives relate to this where your husband wants to gain weight, and you're like, Oh. Actually, Imagine that being the thing you have to work against.

I was actually talking to my friend about that today. My goals in the gym have changed. I just now... I literally just want to be fit. That is it. I want to avoid getting a belly, right? That's my only gym goal.

I just don't want to have a belly. You don't have a belly.

But I have more of a belly now than I've ever had in my life, for sure.

Oh, my gosh. And that's nothing.

But I'm just saying, I think it's funny how your goals and your ambitions as you get older change because you're like, you know what? You lower your stance. Let's be realistic here. I just don't want to have a ton of excess body fat. I just want to be in decent physical shape to do the things I love and spend time with people that I love. Wait.

That reminds me. My friend shared this fact about moms that work out and how much more likely your child are two times more likely to live longer and healthier lives. If the kids grow up in a household with an active mother.

What? Wait, wait, wait, wait. Okay, so the stat was for the mom or for the kid?

For the mom.

Okay.

So I feel like something a lot of moms struggle with going to the gym is feeling like, oh, man, I can't focus on myself for this amount of time. But studies show that children with active mothers are two times more likely to live longer and healthier lives.

Well, you said the children are more likely to have an active- Yes. Okay, so it affects the children. Yes.

Because they're watching that model, like growing up knowing that it is important to prioritize your health and wellness. That makes sense. And I'm assuming that's the main reason why that study reflects that. But isn't that crazy?

That is really cool. I'm glad that you shared that.

I don't really have gym goals other than to feel good.

I just want to join some rec league for men's volleyball right now. I feel like that'd be so fun because I used to play that in high school.

Or if you did pickleball.

Pickleball would be fun, too.

You almost told your meniscus doing that last week.

I did. But you know what? I didn't. And you know what?

I feel like A pickleball has to be fairly easy on the body because so many people do it at an old age. Don't get me wrong, the older pickleball players kill it, and I know that. Even 90-year-olds are amazing at pickleball, but maybe it's not as damaging on your body as some sports. So maybe you start doing pickleball. You should teach me. My problem with pickleball is that I feel like a giant chasing a little tiny ping-pong ball.

Did you know- I just feel clumsy. I've got this on my notepad here. Metta's CEO thinks smart glasses will replace These phones by 2030. No. You don't think it's going to happen?

I mean, I don't want to act like I'm smarter than Metta, but as a consumer, it's going to take more than seven years for me to decide that I'm going to just switch to glasses.

Here's what they got to figure out with all this virtual reality stuff. Eye strain, okay? My eyeballs in 2024 hurt more than they ever have. And it's because I'm always looking at a screen.

When you say your eyeballs hurt, explain that. Like, sting?

Like, bright light. You never feel... Like, your eyes never hurt. Are you serious? Okay, we used to have an Oculus, and we'd play Beat Saber on our Oculus. We gave it to my brother. It makes me dizzy. He now has it now. But you never-I didn't know your brother had that. I gave it to him. That's nice. He really wanted to play Beat Saber, and I was like, You got it.

I want to play Beat Saber again.

That is a really fun game. But what Did you never get eye strain from playing Beat Saber?

I just remember feeling dizzy. Maybe a little bit. I've never felt it.

I'm like, How are we...

When you put 3D glasses on and go on a ride, I feel like my eyes feel dizzy. But I don't know if that's eye strain.

Yeah, I don't know. I think that could be cool if we have a world where we don't even need our phones and everything's on our glasses. I'll be up for that, but only if it's not going to hurt my eyeballs.

What's the point, though? I don't want to always have notifications. I like my phone because I can put it away and be like...

That's true. But maybe- Wait, so are these glasses you wear all the time? Yeah, you can probably take them off, though, right?

See, the problem with that is that it's already too hard to separate yourself from the constant notifications. And if you're literally wearing it, it's in your field of vision constantly. I can see some highly productive people thinking that's incredible, but it's just, I don't know. It's going to take a lot more to convince me. I'm not going to say I'm never going to come around because I'm already changing my mind on a million other things. Remember how on this podcast, I said I didn't want to get my boobies done?

Yeah.

Now I'm just like, what if I did? See, here's the thing. We're human. We're allowed to change our mind and just think about things. Now, I haven't made any plans to do so.

No, actually, you know what?

But we're walking contradictions.

You know what? Once you say it out loud, it's actually a rule somewhere that I read that you can never change your mind. Oh, no, I know.

The Internet will be like, wait a minute. But you said... It's like, yeah, I did say that. I did say that. Don't worry. There's no plans in the works. And also, here's the thing. If I decide to make that change about my body, it actually doesn't impact you at all.

Wow. You just freaking spoke flames right there. That was not mean.

I'm just running- I feel empowered. I want everyone to feel relaxed to know that whatever I decide to do with my body is cosmetically, it's actually going to leave your life, exactly how it currently is.

And you know what? I feel empowered by Abby, so I'm going to talk about my shoes right now. I am wearing these checkerboard shoes. And you know what Abby said? The first thing that she... Okay, Okay. When I walked to the room today, you were like, What are those? I did not.

They just don't match with your- But I think they're cool. No, I think the shoes are great. I honestly love your outfit. I just don't know if they go together. Maybe you cup your jeans.

My stylist friend Josh, he was on our podcast a year ago. Josh and Sav, very nice, sweet couple. Josh did a video with me. He picked out all my outfits, and he picked out these shoes, and I got to keep them. That's really nice. I think they're cool. I also think that I could probably wear these to go skateboarding because I want to teach Griffin to skateboard. I think he's old enough now, probably because he's nearing two and a half. The kid can run now. He definitely could hold his balance on a skateboard. So maybe I should take him to a little mini ramp and get him in knee pads, elbow pads, all the pads.

We need to get Auggie rock climbing ASAP. He is such a good climber. It's all he wants to do. He doesn't care about books, he doesn't care about shows, he doesn't care about toys. He only wants to climb and constantly risk his life.

Wow. I mean, you're right, though.

I think he's going to be a stunt double one day.

That would actually be so sick. What's cute about Auggie is we have this little tight slide that we bought at Target for $15 or something.

It was $35.

Oh, okay. That was more than I thought. But anyway, $35, and he goes down that slide probably 50 times a day.

Yeah, he loves it. Maybe more. I love him when he's going in just his diaper because his thighs get stuck and it's like,. I know.

He has some thick thighs.

He's so thick, you He is. He is Pumba. He is Pumba.

And you know what it is? Griffin is going through this stage of he just like, I don't know why two-year-olds do this. They just will decide to not eat dinner.

They test the limits.

They're like, Screw you. I'm not going to eat any of this.

Another mom told me this. Two-year-olds, apparently, their pediatrician said that they test the limits to see how long they can go without food. And you're like, okay, well, I love this little game we're playing, but it's actually panicking me. And it makes me scared that you're going to wake up in the night hungry or you're going to do this, that, and the other. I think that we're just going to have to survive on a lot of small bills.

But luckily, he will drink milk if he doesn't eat dinner. So I feel like he's getting nutrition there.

He loves yogurt. I can always count that he'll have fruit and yogurt and packets if he needs to. Yes. He's sustaining himself well. You know what? We went on a playdate today, and the other mom that was hosting the playdate made the kids peanut butter and jelly. He attacked that. So I was like, maybe I just need to go for peanut butter and jelly.

The thing is, though, I think my theory for why Auggie is so chunky is because he loves food. He loves food. And when Griffin doesn't eat his dinner, Augie will just eat Griffin's dinner. And I feel like he almost views it as a challenge.

I know. Oggy ate all the kids' leftovers. They thought that since he was a baby, they're like, he's just a baby. He doesn't need a whole meal. I was like, no, he needs a whole meal.

It's so funny. When we tell people our kids' ages, they're like, Bro, your kids are big. They're big boys. They're big boys. They might go on to be football players. They're our little linebackers.

And they say that he's robust. I love him so much. He's so healthy and funny, and he's so dramatic.

I love his laugh. The best laugh. His laugh is so sweet. You said someone commented on my Instagram reel the other day.

Yes, they commented if If this was whatever town Monsters Inc. Is set in, then his laugh could light up the whole city. That's so sweet. That was the cuteest comment ever. That's sweet.

I like your outfit, by the way. I think it's very classy. Yeah, I think it's very cute. Thank you. Nudes.

And A Well.

Okay.

You remind me to get more Madewell jeans. These are so comfy.

You just have good fashion. Maybe you should pick out more of my clothes.

I don't know anything about men's fashion.

I think you probably know more than I do. Well, maybe that. Also, I wear the same thing every day. Let's be honest.

Yeah, but you look good in it. So why switch it up? You look amazing.

That's very nice. Okay, so my shoes, though, I know they're checkerboard. If I were to make these- I think if you just cuff your jeans, roll them up more.

I think your jeans were too long in a weird cut for those.

I also am wearing skinny jeans right now, so I will admit that. I know those are way out of style.

I wouldn't say they're skinny jeans. I think they're more just like a straight leg.

Yeah, they're pretty tight.

Like taper.

I mean, yeah. They're pretty tight. You can't really see my lower half while I'm on this couch. So I thought, hey, it's a safe place to wear skinny jeans. And I literally just outed myself on this podcast.

No, we were just talking about you shouldn't care about trends. You should just wear what you like and what you like on your body.

I actually respect that a lot about Adam Sandler because he will wear whatever the freak he wants. And he's cool. And he's super funny.

Have you seen that? I heard that audio? It's like, What are you doing here? Adam Sandler, what are you doing here? Is it waiting for them to play Gangnam style?

I have no idea what that is.

Okay, never mind. It's like what people do when they're showing someone wearing a weird outfit. They're like, Adam Sandler, what are you doing here? I don't know what that's from. I just heard that audio.

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It's happening.

All right, let's say it. One, two, three. We're moving. We're moving. And we bought a house.

We bought a house? I can't even believe we're like, This is happening.

It's not officially bought. I guess things could... Crap could hit the fan right now and we could lose it. But we're like, It's happening, people. It's happening. They accepted our offer.

We're not leaving Arizona. We're actually staying very close, but we're just moving to a different area that is more family friendly.

Did you know that people all the time don't realize we live in Arizona? Because I was just at the gym and this guy was like, Are you Matt? He was like, I did not realize you guys lived in Arizona.

Well, I'm a proud Arizonaan. I know. But I just don't know if I can claim it because I'm not born here. But We've lived here for three years, almost.

We've been two and a half.

Two and a half to three years.

We're Arizona now.

I don't want to take that from locals, though. You know what I mean? I love Arizona so much. I love living here, but I feel like I don't ever be like... But it's I'm an Arizona.

It's like Nashville, though. Everyone has moved here.

That's true. A lot of people aren't from here, originally.

Exactly. Most people are from California.

But something I will say, everyone that's from Arizona that still lives here loves Arizona. They speak so highly of it.

Yes and no. I don't know. There are some people that are like, recently, people have been telling me, how the frick is it 115 in October?

Yeah, it's really hot here.

That's horrible. That is truly horrible.

I love the heat, though.

Yeah. But what's crazy is if you have a pool, right? Because it's so dry here, you get out of the pool and you'll actually be cold, even when it's like a hundred and ten. I was in the pool the other day with the boys, and we got out, and Griffin was actually cold. And it was a hundred and ten.

Is it because the water evaporating off of you.

I think that's what it is. I think it evaporates so fast that it actually makes you cold when you get out of the pool, even though it's literally a hundred and ten degrees outside.

And I know that pool wasn't cold water. That pool was hot water.

No, it actually felt refreshing. Really? That's good. It's not as hot as it used to be right now, so it was refreshing water.

Well, we're just moving to a different area of Arizona, and our family is still going to be super close. In fact, we're going to be even closer to your brother and his wife.

I think we should go into the details of buying our house and what the process has been like when we started thinking about doing this, because this wasn't just a decision we made overnight. No, we thought long and hard about it. This is something that has been in the works for actually the past two years. We made a house hunting video over two years ago, right after you gave birth to Griffin, because you got this itch to move. And it was because the area that we have living in for the past two and a half years, unfortunately, isn't the most family-friendly.

Yeah. Let me say this first. I love the house that we're currently in. The actual house is amazing, and it's really served us so well. And I think what's crazy is when we bought that house, we're like, what in the world are we going to do with all this house, just the two of us? And we have just... Everything has become... Every space in our house is so used, so useful, so functional for us. And also I love the look of it. And we have hosted so many people in it. We brought our two babies home to it. I'm just so thankful for that house and all the memories we've created in it, and all the laughs we've shared, and the hard moments. That house, I'm not leaving because I It's like our house. I love, love, love our house. The exact area we're in isn't somewhere that I could see us living long term with our kids, our kids growing up in that area. And I think that as a mom, civilian security. I want our our kids to always feel like when they come home, they are safe, and that they are a place where they can feel really grounded, and a community of people around them that is supporting them because that's what I had growing up.

And it is foundational to who I am. And so since I knew my kids weren't going to grow up in this community, it's hard for me. I'm like, Okay, wait. I'm ready to get out there, meet people, make lifelong friendships, but I'm like, I know I'm going to move. And so it's nice that we're able to make the move at this point to an area that I could not feel better about. There's so many parks, kids activities. It's very safe and very, very, very family-friendly, and I just feel so good about it.

I will admit. So for the longest time, with where our house is right now, I've always loved it because it's really close to mountains, and it's so beautiful, and there's so many gorgeous views of the mountains, the city of Phoenix. It's a beautiful area. But as the kids have gotten older and we've been wanting to do activities with them, get them out of the house, go do things, our neighborhood doesn't have... There's no swings, there's no swing set, there's no slides for kids. So I was like, Okay, what are local parks in our area that I can take the kids to? And so I've gone to those parks, and unfortunately, they're just not the safest.

Here's the thing. Buying a house and then literally just picking up and moving is not a wise decision by most standards. So I totally understand your hesitancy and being like, Okay, wait, let's reevaluate this. Let's not be so rash because I also tend to make quick decisions. But I can say, officially, this was not a quick decision. This was very thought over for a matter of years, honestly.

You have been thinking about it for over two years.

And I think this is going to be a good move. I'm excited.

Yeah. No, it was tricky looking for Looking for houses because we had gotten used to our current house. We're like, Well, we have this at our house. Especially when you're moving from an area where the price per square foot is cheaper. We bought an area where you could get more house for the money. And now we're moving to an area where the price for a square foot has gone up. It's like, oh, crap. Okay. You do have to spend more to get what you want. And that is tricky. But I don't know. I don't even know where I was going with that, to be honest.

But it's It's happening rather fast, which is... Well, at this point, I feel like it's been slow, slow, slow. And then now it's like, okay, time to pack up and get out the door and into the new place. And honestly, I've had so many sweet friends looking at me being like, are you stressed? Are you feeling super overwhelmed? And I don't take it lightly, but I also am coming at it from a place of so much gratitude. I'm so grateful for being able to do this with the current housing market and everything. I'm just so grateful I feel like that has made this stress, quote unquote, just like, Man, I got to get this done. But I don't know. It's made it so much more joyful.

What's crazy is the way we process things is we don't process them until they are happening. Exactly.

Because so many people are like, Well, are you excited then? Because I'm like, I'm not stressed. Why are you excited? I'm like, not even. Because I'm just like, once I get there, I will be so excited and happy. But I haven't processed it. It doesn't feel real.

Okay, I take that back. We've packed We have one closet of our house. That's it. We have a lot of packing to do. We're going to take it into gear. We're going to freaking whip ourselves into shape and get moving with this.

It's hard because it's not something that you really can do gradually, because with kids, it's like you got to have all their stuff situated to some extent. And then you got to have a bed. You got to have... I don't know. So it's going to happen. I feel like it's been like nothing and then all at once. But I'm so excited to make it happen. I feel like we're in a good place before the holidays start to happen. I want to be more stable by the time Thanksgiving comes because we're hosting Thanksgiving. Wow. That's right. So I'm like, I want to have things. I want to have a table and things like that. And we're doing a couple of interior renovations to the place that I want to get contractors out for before too long, because I know that once you move into a space, you start getting really comfortable, and then you don't end up actually doing the things that you want to do in the space. So we'll take it one project at a time and see what is actually necessary. But we have some renovations coming up.

Also, just wanted to clear something up. We never bought a house in Nashville. We never moved to Nashville. Some people saw that we were in Nashville for a little bit, and they thought, Oh, they moved to Nashville and they bought a house there. We didn't. We actually stayed at a friend house for a month, and we went there and escaped the Phoenix heat because it's 20 degrees cooler in Nashville than here.

I didn't realize people thought that.

People did. One of my friends was like, Wait, you to Nashville. I was like, No, we did not move to Nashville. We're still in Arizona. But we actually are moving now. We actually did buy a house. They accepted our offer. We're working through all the paperwork, which, by the way, the paperwork, when you go to buy a house, it's crazy. You have to send over a lot. You don't really think about all the different documents you have to send over and stuff. It takes a lot of time, actually.

I'm thankful for you taking care of that because I don't really understand that stuff.

Yeah, there's just a lot of back and forth. Not that it's hard, but it's time consuming, right?

Oh, I'm sure. I I don't understand any of that stuff.

And the other thing, too, we have been looking at houses. Well, Abby has been looking at houses for the past year, I think.

Over a year. Two years.

We looked at Houses for Fun two years ago, and then I was not on board at all. And then we looked at houses, I think, almost a year ago. And so this has been a slow process, gradual, but it's happening. We're going to be in a more family-friendly part of Arizona.

And we're very excited. And we love the house, too. It's a beautiful house.

What's funny, though, is the layout is actually similar to our current house.

I know. We were looking for something like our current house.

Because we kept telling ourselves, how nice would it be if we could take our current house and just plop it in a different location. And so in a way, we're doing that, I guess. For sure.

I'm so excited. And the kids will have a bigger backyard, which is going to be really nice because they just need to get outside. They feel so much better when they're outside playing. And I'm just so excited. So many parks and playgrounds. They love that.

A decision we do have to make, though, is right now the backyard is dirt, and so we need to decide what we want to do with it. So what are we thinking? Are you leaning in the direction of doing like, turf or grass and then doing a swing set?

What? Is that turf gets too hot. Their kids can't even play on it if it's in the summer. Really? Because the turf feeds up. But we have turf, and I've never noticed that problem. But maybe if it's in direct sunlight all day, then it would. I don't know. That makes sense. I'm like, maybe we put in a pool once our kids are really stable swimmers. Because now we have the option to weigh. I don't know. We're weighing our options because we've always thought we would have a pool living in Arizona, and it would be so nice. But then I'm like, it might be nice to not have that hazard until they're stronger swimmers. If we have the option of choosing- But if we do have a pool, we'll put a fence around it.

Oh, for sure. Or if there's no fence, we would do a pool cover to completely cover up the pool.

No, you still have to have a fence.

Even if we have the pool cover? Yeah. Okay. Then we do both.

Just because people forget to put it over it. That makes sense. Yeah. It's just extra precautions. And obviously, so many locks and home security alarms if certain doors get open. But we'll just see. It would be really nice to just have a good place for them to run around, set up a bounce house or set up a little blow up, slip and slide, things like that. It would be really fun.

Do you feel relieved about the whole house situation?

I do. I would say I I feel really because I was itching to make the move for so long. And then I shouldn't say for so long, but I was itching to do it. And I knew in my heart, I was like, If we could just get there. And so I'm really excited.

Well, I mean, what's funny, too, is we were the The house that we're buying was one that I think you had looked at without me. Months ago. And you were just like, Nope, not going to work. And so we just never even looked at the house. And then I was on Zillow looking at houses, and I was like, Abby, what do you think about this house? And you're like, Well, I didn't like it for this reason and this reason. I was like, Okay, what if we... Because when you're buying a house, you can't, unfortunately, unless you have unlimited money and you're going to build the house yourself from scratch and spend two to four years doing that, you can't get everything you want. It just doesn't work that way. You have to make compromises on what you want. And so we looked at so many houses this summer, especially before we went to Nashville. And then after we went to Nashville, we just looked at a ton of houses. Maybe 50 would be more realistic. I don't know.

I looked at a lot.

Yes. You looked at more houses than I did. But it was one that we weren't even really thinking of. Actually, this is going to work.

This is the one- With some renovations, it's going to fit all of our needs. And I'm really excited about it. And I feel like I also still haven't processed it because this is how I was with pregnancy, too. I was like, yes, I'm having a baby, but I don't think I had emotionally done any processing until that baby was in my arms both times. So that's going to be me with this house, but hopefully, it doesn't hit me as hard. It's like, Oh, we're in this house. And like, We're here. This is exciting. This is where we're going to live.

What makes this move differently, too, is I don't know how long you guys have been following our journey, but there's some people that have been here, literally, since we were in our low income housing apartment in Springfield. And so when we were back in Springfield, that was a 650 square foot apartment. Then we moved to a 500 square foot little cottage on the beach in Hawaii. That we were renting. We moved there with just our suitcases. That was it.

Well, it was already furnished, too. We were renting it.

Yeah, we rented it. Both were rentals. And then when we moved to Arizona, we also moved with just our suitcases.

And to a studio.

Yes. Into a little studio. And then from there, we moved into- Our current house. Our current house, which currently, as of right now, has six people living in it, including us. So we have a lot of... We've now accumulated a lot of stuff. We have couches and beds and dressers and night stands and all these things that we had no use for because we were living in a little apartment. So now moving isn't going to just be like, Okay, pack the suitcase and go. It's actually a whole process. It's going to be involved. I can see why when people are like, Wow, moving. It's such a big thing. I'm like, Okay, that actually makes sense now.

Because before-Yeah, before it was nothing because you just had suitcases.

Which honestly, one day, maybe when our kids are out of the house, that would be fun. To just our only belongings to be our suitcases, and then maybe have a little storage unit with keepsakes, because how freeing is that? To be minimalistic like that and not to have all this stuff.

What are you going to do for furniture?

All this stuff to take care of. Or you could just live at a furnished apartment. We could rent a place. I don't know. Well, you guys, thank you for tuning in for another episode of the Unplanned podcast. Guys, we are at almost 100 episodes. So if you're new here, we are so stoked you're here. But to everyone that's been here since the beginning, wow, we appreciate you so much. Truly. Maybe comment down below how long you've been listening to the show, which episode you started on. And yeah, let's chat in the comments. We appreciate you guys a lot. And if you didn't know this, we're also available on Spotify and Apple podcasts and all those audio platforms. So if you're driving a car and you're trying to watch our show, don't do that. That is not safe. You should probably consider just an audio platform. But we appreciate you guys.

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So interesting. I shouldn't say it. I've used this podcast app since high school.

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