Transcript of Breaking: Impeachment of Hegseth is Coming!

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This episode of The Parnas Perspective covers the push to impeach Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, which Aaron Parnas reports could come sooner than expected. He walks through how the House impeachment process works, including Thomas Massie's resolution, and notes that other cabinet officials such as Health Secretary RFK Jr. and Education Secretary Linda McMahon have also faced articles of impeachment.

Parnas then interviews Maryland Governor Wes Moore about the election results, mid-decade redistricting, Vice President Vance's comments on the war, and what Democrats should prioritize. Listeners will hear the guest's arguments about tariffs, war powers and the party's future, presented as his own views.

In this episode Aaron Parnas, Wes Moore

This episode's transcript on Hegseth's impeachment and Governor Wes Moore's interview was made with the technology behind HappyScribe's AI note taker for Teams.

Aaron Parnas00:00:00

Buckle up. Accountability is beginning. Pete Hegseth will likely be impeached by the United States House of Representatives as soon as the end of this month. An impeachment vote will be scheduled next week. Congress is coming back into session even before Democrats are able to take over the United States House of Representatives and the United States Senate. Republicans in Congress are officially tired of the Secretary of Defense. He may be the first, but he may not be the last to be impeached. Impeachment is a very rare tool. It is not used often. A president has only been impeached 4 times.

President Trump has been impeached 2 out of those 4 times. Cabinet secretaries are also impeached at a rare rate. During the Biden administration era, you had the DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas face impeachment there. But this impeachment of Pete Hegseth is not only expected to pass; it could be by wide margins. I spoke with Governor Wes Moore about all this and more. Make sure to subscribe. We're on the road to a million subscribers. Like, comment, share. Let's jump in, because right now Congressman Thomas Massie has officially begun the process of forcing a vote on the impeachment of Secretary Hegseth.

Speaker 200:01:04

The lawful conduct of United States military operations, the integrity and credibility of the United States Armed Forces, and the Constitution, if allowed, to remain in office, and has acted in a manner grossly incompatible with his duties and the rule of law. Peter Brian Hegseth thus warrants impeachment and trial, removal from office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust, or profit under the United States.

I yield back.

Aaron Parnas00:01:38

That is Thomas Massie announcing the impeachment resolutions. Here is how this is going to work. Impeachment in the United States House of Representatives only requires a majority vote. There is nothing stopping this from happening. A resolution has been put forth. The vote will be forced. Republicans behind the scenes told CNN there are enough votes, more than enough, to impeach Pete Hegseth. But Hegseth is not the only one. Articles of impeachment have been filed against individuals like RFK Jr., the Secretary of Health and Human Services, Linda McMahon, the Secretary of Education, and others.

And so this could open up a massive, massive cascading waterfall of targeting other Trump administration officials. Accountability is critical. And I spoke with Governor Wes Moore about what that looks like. Giddy up. Subscribe to support this work. My conversation with the governor. Governor Wes Moore, so great to be here with you. I really want to jump right in, because a lot of Republicans I see on the internet are really feeling like Ravens fans after Lamar Jackson suffers his yearly injury. How are you feeling today?

Wes Moore00:02:39

I am, uh, I ain't feeling like that. No, listen, I'm feeling good because I think that the people spoke. And, you know, the message that they sent was just loud and clear. They're tired, right? They're tired of the corruption and the grifting. They're tired of the fact that we are fighting wars that nobody asked for. They're tired of the fact that the president is putting tariffs on us. And the president said the tariffs were going to be a boon for the American people, but all they've been is a bill for the American people.

And so I think people are just ready for people to disrupt the status quo and do something different. And I think so I think we had a really good night around it.

Aaron Parnas00:03:20

You won by almost 30 points in your race, which is pretty significant given the fact that people forget you had a Republican governor in this state just a few years back. This is not this has been a swing state back and forth. But the bigger win, I think, is the question three win, which also won by a wide margin. What happens next?

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Wes Moore00:03:39

So, you know, I tell people that this is a monumental win for the people of Maryland, because the people of Maryland, in an overwhelming fashion, they spoke. And they said that at a time when we were watching Donald Trump trying to unilaterally redistrict this country to try to make this pain permanent because he doesn't want to be checked, this is the time for Maryland to be able to push back. And the people of Maryland agreed. And so now what we see is that the courts have spoken, the people have spoken, and so now Maryland must meet the moment.

And so while I believe in national redistricting reform, I'm also I know that Donald Trump does not. So I'm not holding my breath and waiting for that to happen while he continues to try to gerrymander this country. So it is time, though. I will be getting together with the General Assembly, but it is time for Maryland now to meet the moment.

Aaron Parnas00:04:30

So right now, Maryland has a 7-1 map. Democrats have 7 seats. Republicans have 1 in their congressional seats. Do you expect to redraw it such that it becomes an 8-0 map?

Wes Moore00:04:41

Well, I expect that we are going to have fair maps inside of our state. And the truth is, is that when you're looking at this country, about 92, 93 percent of our congressional districts, they are not competitive, right? The biggest challenge is a Democrat. The biggest concern they have is a primary to their left. The biggest concern for a Republican is a primary to their right. And that is what's causing so much of this of this division that we have. And frankly, Maryland is not immune to that if you look at our maps.

And I do think it is important that if the rest of the country is going to have a mid-decade discussion about do they have fair maps, I do not think that Maryland should be left out of that conversation. That's what question three authorizes. And I do think this does give us a chance now, and I will be working with the members of the General Assembly, to ensure that we can make sure that maps are going to be are going to be fair and are going to be representative of what the aspirations of our state is.

Aaron Parnas00:05:40

I want to get your reaction to something Vice President Vance said today. He said, quote, "The reason we lost is the war, and everyone knows why we lost. Any honest conversation about where we go from here must start there." What's your reaction?

Wes Moore00:05:53

You know, my reaction is I have I have never seen a grown man grow a spine. That comment would have been great six months ago before we started bombing people. That comment would have been great before the president started spending tens of billions of dollars and started giving away national treasure, both of blood and of finances. So, you know, I'm glad that, I guess, that J.D. Vance has said the truth.

But it would have been nice had he done that before they started doing these bombing campaigns. And it still doesn't address the fact that we're still at war right now, and we're still at a war that we're losing. And so, you know, we're seeing this circular firing squad amongst the Republicans that are taking place about who to blame. But at some point, they really have to look themselves in the mirror. And they each one of them. And they have to say to themselves, you allow this to happen. You allow the American people to go through this pain. You allow the president of the United States to continually break laws and break rules and did not choose to check him at all.

So, frankly, the Hegseth is now going to be on all of you.

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Aaron Parnas00:07:06

You talk about the war. You talk about accountability. There is rumblings, at least right now in D.C., that Hegseth may be going soon. The president may consider firing Hegseth, or there could be an impeachment vote in the House of Representatives in the next couple weeks. Do you support Hegseth leaving his term as Secretary of Defense?

Wes Moore00:07:22

I don't think he should have been there in the first place. He's the most he is and listen, as a veteran myself, as someone who served overseas and served in Afghanistan, you know, I take that role very seriously. This is a person who is in charge of making sure and maintaining the health and welfare and safety of our nation's soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines. The one who's in charge of making sure that we are fighting and winning our nation's wars, and we're doing it smartly, the one who's in charge of ensuring that they are giving the president the right counsel.

And I think Hegseth has not only been deeply unqualified for that job, I think he has been the most disastrous in that role that we have seen across the board. So, you know, I support them being able to impeach him. But then again, I don't think he should have been there in the first place.

Aaron Parnas00:08:17

It's a new day in America. Democrats are going to have the House of Representatives. They're going to have the United States Senate. What should they be doing right now?

Wes Moore00:08:24

I think they should be focusing on what are we going to do to immediately address what the American people just told us. And I think it's going to be twofold. I think the American people said that they need that we have to be able to address this corruption and this grifting that is going on. And we need to make sure we are doing things that's making their life easier. And I don't think we should have to think about what is the choice between those things. And so, you know, everything that we can do to rein in these wars, to let the president of the United States know that you do not have the authority to unilaterally fight or wage wars on people, that that matters.

I think we've got to be able to address these tariffs because it is just making life remarkably difficult on everybody inside of our country. And I think we've got to make sure that we are now enabling laws and preparing to pass laws that then we can move. And frankly, we can move with or without the president's signature. And that includes on things like making sure that people are not losing health care. That means addressing things like immigration reform. That means addressing the things that the American people have been calling for, but we have just been continually blocked by not just Donald Trump, but this sycophants in Congress that have allowed him to do it.

And so I think these are things that we've got to do, and we've got to start doing now to be able to address these issues.

Aaron Parnas00:09:49

Now, Donald Trump has changed his tune over the past 12 hours, saying now he wants to work with Democrats. He doesn't want to veto everything like before. That's what he's been telling reporters lately. Now, over the past 18 months, he hasn't really wanted to work with you much. He has disinvited you from events. He has stonewalled you whenever he had the opportunity. Do you see that changing over the next two years?

Wes Moore00:10:07

I don't. I mean, in the words of Jay-Z, we don't believe you. You need more people. You know, so listen, I would love for that to be the case. There has just been no evidence that that is the case. And I really do believe in, you know, in the old school beliefs of trust but verify. And since there is since all trust has been broken by this president, we're just going to be forced to just verify. And we've just seen no evidence that that is what he wants to do.

You know, but one thing I will say, though, is I do hope that we do have that opportunity with the Republicans who are going to Congress, because and I know that is possible because we've been able to do it with the National Governors Association with the other Republican governors, where with Republican governors and I serve as chair of the National Governors Association. So we've built really strong bonds with Republican governors. And where we are working together on very big issues, I do hope that is the mentality that they will have with the other Republican members of the House and the Senate to find the places of progress where we can.

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Aaron Parnas00:11:17

You talk about rolling back things like tariffs, ending the war in Iran. If you had it your way over the next two years, but even beyond, four years, six years, what does the Democratic Party stand for?

Wes Moore00:11:29

Results. That it's that this become a party that actually addresses the issues that people have been asking for, not for years, but in some cases, generations. I don't understand why we have not yet fixed the issue of child poverty in our society, except we've made the choice not to. I don't understand why it's still so difficult to build affordable housing inside of our country, except we've just chosen to make it difficult. I don't understand why we can have a public school system in this country that is not preparing our children for either jobs or higher education and why we don't have a public education system universally that is making sure that our children are not just trained to be employees, but employers.

And so I want us to be able to move with a sense of speed and urgency. I want us to do, like, for example, in Maryland, where we made Maryland the first state in the country that has a service year option for all of our high school graduates. And that is now being modeled around the country, that we focused on the issue of generational childhood poverty. And the work that we're doing in 30 different communities in Maryland is now becoming a model for the rest of the country. You know, there are places where the states can really serve as laboratories. But I think if the Democratic Party addresses the results problem, then we forever will no longer have a messaging problem.

Aaron Parnas00:12:53

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Aaron Parnas reports on breaking news of the impeachment of Pete Hegseth coming sooner than expected, including a look at what is next for him, what this means for the rest of Trump's cabinet, and much more!

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