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So what is this internet thing? Explain this to me. I didn't want to do it off the air.

I think Jamie should explain it because it's, it's out of my league. It's something to do with PHP certificates, some ability to counterfeit websites. You go into a website and and it does some kind of check, and this thing is a massive security flaw that's existed, I think, for 14 years, right, Jamie? Like 14 years.

Here's the— I saw the— so what I, I just saw this popping up yesterday online, like a bunch of warnings from a bunch of different Twitter accounts, including the FBI Cyber Division.

Let's read this. FBI Cyber Division: 2 critical vulnerabilities have been identified in PHP, a widely used programming language that powers websites and web applications. These vulnerabilities, blah blah blah, could allow malicious cyber actors to remotely execute code in PHP core, potentially compromising sensitive data and networks. FBI urges organizations to take the following steps now. So it tells you all the things to stay— to do to— so we're fucked. Well, yeah. So what's happening is AI is eventually going to figure out the code of everything that exists, and there'll be No more encryption. That's gonna be gone. There's gonna be no more passwords. Yeah, that'll be useless. Yeah, and it's gonna get very squirrely because money is online.

Haven't they already made that? I mean, that Octopus scandal was all about that backdoor they put into everything way back when. So—

What is the Octopus scandal? Which one's that?

You know, Octopus, it's connected to FC and all them. It was like— I don't know.

You always do that. You know, you know.

I feel like he's out of Gaster.

But not Octopus. Have you heard of that before?

Yeah, there's a whole documentary on that. There you go, the Octopus murders.

Oh, the octopus murders. That's connected to that. Oh, okay. So yeah, I watched one episode of that, or the beginning of it. I didn't watch the whole— I heard it's fucking incredible. Yeah, but I only watched a little bit.

The guy that was like slashed both his— like the way he committed suicide, right? It's very suspicious.

Like the Enron whistleblower that shot himself in the head twice?

Yeah,

that guy.

Did he shoot himself in the head twice?

Twice.

Twice. Like Gary?

Whoopsies.

Really? Like the guy? Like Gary Webb?

Gary Webb did it twice? No, maybe the Enron guy didn't. Maybe I'm just thinking of Gary Webb. Well, the, the, uh, might be intoxicated.

Who's the one, the Clintons, they always say they're— Might be a little bit.

Um, uh, that one's Vince Foster. That's a fucking weird one, man. The Strange Death of Vince Foster is a great book. What's that? I read that book in like, fuck, it was like the early 2000s.

I think that guy was on Jimmy's show just recently and I didn't know it, and he was saying, no, the Clintons didn't, didn't do it. They took the blame for it, but no, it's some FBI-associated gang, trafficking gang, that did it. He probably didn't want to go along with with the thing that they're all into, you

know? Well, perhaps. There was probably a bunch of factors, right? Because for sure, while Clinton was governor of Arkansas, that's when all that Barry Seal stuff was going on in Mena, Arkansas, where they were dropping off coke. The Mena Cartel. Right, so there's that for sure. But then there's also that scheme that they were doing, that real estate scandal.

He wasn't shot twice, but there's a weird subplot.

Oh wait, I forgot to tell you the most—

So Gary Webb was the one who got shot in the head twice, right?

Vince Foster, this is the thing that blew my mind, And Jimmy has sat on this for a year because he thought it sounded too far out. There's an interview, and I couldn't believe when I saw it. The guy, when he was researching, uh, there was a reporter that was like a supposed, like, you know, like, uh, how I consider Ben Swan to be a good guy reporter, like supposedly like that. But he wasn't. He was a piece of shit helping cover it up, according to, according to this guy. And that guy's name, that reporter, was Chris Ruddy, who's now the guy who runs Newsmax. Wow. He's a billionaire now.

Wild.

That's what this guy said. Now, I can't tell you I can prove it and whatever, but—

How did a news reporter become a billionaire?

I'm sure legitimately. I'm sure there's nothing, you know, I don't wanna be— That's totally normal. I get pegged as one of these conspiracy guys, which I'm not. I just wanna—

You're definitely not. Not at all? Not at all. So it was the Whitewater real estate scandal that Vince Foster was also entangled in. So there was like, there was a lot going down with that. And then they found him dead, but there was more blood missing from his body than was at the scene of the crime. His body clearly had been moved. Also, the gun was in his hand.

This guy wrote it. This motherfucker wrote the book. He's in on the cover-up that guy was telling us.

Yo! That's amazing. That's amazing. Wow, yeah. That's amazing, 'cause that book is real. So now I have to rethink everything that I read in that book.

I sent you that interview, dude. You should watch it, 'cause that guy was really fascinating. And I had never even thought about Vince Foster for a long time.

Well, it's like what they always say Trump is doing. He's doing 4D chess. Like, these guys are. Like, some people are.

Yeah, but just not in your favor, idiots. Right. Yeah, it's not good. He's doing 40 chess where he tells you everything. Remember he came on here and he was like sounding pretty good and then immediately, uh, rug pulled everyone? Like, how long'd that take, the rug pull of Trump, would you say? How long did we win the war in Iran?

The war in Iran was, uh, what, a year?

Yeah, he waited a year.

Well, then we have the stupid, um, war on narco-terror, which is always fake. Anybody talking about that's a fucking lying phony. So the Department of War The guy who's got all the Brylcreem in his fucking hair and the Templar tattoos.

Hagseth.

That's right.

I forgot his name. Yeah, Hagseth. So that— but you think the war on drugs is fake? Like when they're blowing up those— what do you think is going on?

Well, I think most of them are probably marijuana guys not even going to America. The idea of Venezuelan cocaine is propo— I used to do a lot of coke, dude, and I heard of every kind of cocaine. Never heard of no Venezuelan coke.

That's true, I've never heard of Venezuelan coke.

No, this is pure Venezuelan, dude.

Is it only Venezuela that they were blowing up those boats? Well, maybe they were moving marijuana.

You already know this.

Right, but I think they were probably trying to cripple their money chain before they invaded them. Oh, I was reading about what they did to them. What? Oh my God. Oh yeah, the new weapon.

The brain bleed. Oh, it like swells your shit up.

Yeah, they said it doesn't— it's non-lethal in a sense because it doesn't actually kill you. The Havana Syndrome thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah, the stuff they use in Venezuela. But you're fucking done. I don't think they did use it. They boil your brain.

They boil your ass.

I don't think they did use it. I think Maduro and his wife, they got their asset out of there. 'Cause the regime's still in place, by the way. I don't even know what the point would be of taking him out if you still had the same army regime.

Let's take this one step at a time. Pentagon allows DHS to test a heat ray weapon for possible use at the border.

Wow.

Okay, but what is that? Find out that thing that they—

Discombobulator?

The discombobulator.

Yeah, is that what they're calling it? Yeah. But they were talking about it today, like what it actually does. Oh, today? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, at least on this article that someone sent me on Twitter.

Doesn't it raise the temperature of your cells by a little bit or something? It just fries your— It's a microwave.

It's just they were saying that it doesn't kill you, so it's non-lethal technically. Technically. But you're never the same.

You're fucked. You have burns in your face.

Shotguns are— they say less than lethal. I thought

the beanbags are not as scary as the rubber bullets. The rubber bullets take your eyes out. Those take your eyes out. There's people who've lost eyeballs to rubber bullets. They shoot you right in the face.

Those forward spatula everywhere.

But the story that people report when Venezuela was invaded is insane. Like, these like super soldiers with these weird fucking headsets on. Everyone's falling down, shitting their pants, their eyes are bleeding. I

bet you that's not true.

I bet it is true. So those super soldier helmets, that's the—

I'm sure they have that. I'm not saying they don't.

The heat rays, the storage— I'm saying I don't think they used it there. Last 24 hours, my type of non-lethal weapon.

Right, right, right. But I'm saying what they used in Venezuela, they were discussing specifically, like what they used in Venezuela as a non-lethal Weapon Venezuela.

Yeah,

Trump administration. So this is different, I think.

Heat gun.

Because if they're already testing it, they fucking did this already in the Venezuela stuff. Whatever it was, whoever was talking about it— I should probably have saved it. I'm just trying to stay offline. I'm just trying to keep—

Are you really? How many, how many hours of screen time do you think you're doing a day?

I still watch stuff, but it's mostly YouTube videos.

Okay.

Most of my use on my phone, if I'm bored, is YouTube videos.

Yeah.

And it's all pretty either educational or interesting.

If you had to guess, social media, how many—

An hour. Hour a

day. That's admirable.

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What's the average screen time, Jamie?

Do they have that? Probably 5 or 6 hours.

That's insane.

Yeah, it's probably 5 or 6 hours. And on good days, I have 0 hours. Good days, I just stay completely off of it.

Those are the best days.

But today wasn't a good day. Today I got up early, had to take my kid somewhere, and then I got I got up in the morning and did a little work, and then I was tired and I took a shit, and that's when I started watching my phone. Then I watched my phone a little bit, and I'm like, all right, I gotta get to work. Yeah. But it was like, after eating breakfast and sitting there with your phone on, you just feel like such a loser. You're like, I'm wasting time.

7 hours. 7 hours. 7 fucking hours a day.

I'm usually editing.

That's crazy.

To be fair to me, in my hours, I spend a lot of time.

49 hours a week.

Now imagine kids with no self-control and teachers that aren't paying attention, so they have access to them at school.

Oh yeah. Dude, even if they are

paying attention, it's not good. There's nothing good. It's all poison coming in.

Most of it's poison. Most of it's poison. But you can curate it and make it not poison if you're just smart with what you do. Like, I get something out of YouTube videos. I get something out of like things that are interesting, like ancient history stuff and stuff on cosmology and astronomy. That stuff is interesting to me. I'm always gonna like look at those. Do you guys— I'm just fascinated.

Do you guys remember the— sorry to cut you off. Do you guys remember the YouTube Spider-Man videos. Do you remember those? They're really weird.

Okay, Spider-Man Elsa. That's one of the reasons for the adpocalypse.

Can you pull that up, Jamie? Do you mind pulling up the Spider-Man Elsa videos? Which is, if you left your kid on YouTube long enough before they changed it, it was like a slippery slope that led to increasingly fucked up videos, and no one was sure where these videos were coming from. Right. And that— it was— it was— and they—

Do you know what the final explanation was?

What?

Um, yeah, so this is, this is the one that I would have explained it with, is, okay, so they basically use an algorithm. They know kids psychologically are fascinated with like getting a shot or pregnancy or whatever.

Or violence.

Or violence or bugs, and they mix it together into gibberish that's colorful so the kids stay on it. And then, okay, so that's like, uh, the main— and that's probably pretty reasonable. But I think that's testing something too. I don't think it was just Oh, it was just these greedy people were doing a thing. There is no way something like that exists that our government didn't learn everything they could about and how to weaponize. And also it was probably them.

It gave you— can you find an actual cartoon of it, Jamie? 'Cause it gave you a weird feeling watching them. Like it felt bad.

There was a lot of the cartoons, they'd get drunk and someone would smash their head and there'd be blood all over the place. Yeah. Or they'd get a shot.

What the fuck? Or Spider-Man's pregnant. And then after he gives birth, he's so relieved. Like he took a shot.

Spider-Man got pregnant?

Yes.

They're gibberish things, but that's to go right to the subconscious.

Wasn't there some of those things where they showed that pedophiles were communicating with each other in the comments? They were like using comments and code words.

Are you doing most of the things for kids? Roblox and every other thing like that?

They'd have like kid videos, like, you know, kids in a swimming pool, and then they would— in the comments would be the exact time where if you went to that frame, you could see a kid's ass. Like, that's what they were doing is so that you'd have to wait for the whole— It's kind of suspicious that you know that. Watching the whole video.

What's the timestamp? Yeah, that's a test. If you know, then you're going to jail.

The timestamp? You know, it's 3:22.

Generally.

Is there a number that's attached to like pedophile stuff, like 420 is attached to weed?

I don't know, probably.

They probably know, like 187 is murder.

Probably. It seems like they got a lot of code words for sure. Oh, for sure. It's a whole thriving underground.

Pizza, beef jerky.

Yep.

Right?

Yeah.

You know, pizza also could be cocaine. They should— whoever the fuck wrote those emails that's alive, They should be brought into a room publicly. Like, what are you talking about?

Yeah, why hasn't that happened?

Well, they brought Howard Lernick in, he decided he didn't do anything.

What is beef jerky? Yeah, they didn't— that guy just— I met him once.

He was really gross.

I was neighbors to him for like 20 years.

He had a massage table in his living room. My wife said, this man's gross.

Yeah, and we left. And we left. And then the emails come out. How many emails did he have with the guy?

I don't know, bringing a ton of kids there to the person who's so creepy. He's bringing all their kids and some other kids.

It's just a vacation. Ages us, yeah. Relax.

No, when you go on vacation— People love the beach. Hey, you're a guy who— you bring extra kids when you go on vacation, right?

Just the beach.

To a creep's house? A guy that you said was really creepy?

It's like spare tires. Someone dies.

Yeah, yeah.

Extra kids.

Yeah. It's really spooky, man, and it's really— It's so bizarre. But now the new— you know what the new thing is? Is like, stop talking about Epstein.

Is that the new thing?

Well, yeah, Fuentes has been saying that. Like, Fuentes has been saying—

Well, not just him. A lot of Chris Ruddy, uh, uh, Israel trip takers, like your Gavin McInneses and what have you.

Okay, but devil's advocate,

please,

why are they doing that? If— do you think it's possibly that they think, hey, look, nothing's going to change, this Epstein stuff is a giant distraction, there's real shit we should be paying attention to right now, like the midterms, like Iran, like whatever the fuck is happening in France, like all the stuff—

Question, so you're saying the, the cannibal pedophile thing is less of a real thing than the midterms? No, no, no.

What I'm saying is the people that are online that are, you know, air quote influencers and people talking about the news—

They're doing it on purpose because they're paid. Then the morons that go along with it say the thing you're saying.

Perhaps, but this is why I'm saying devil's advocate. So like, if you're asking— That's a fake one. We have a real one. Watch it.

I feel like a fraud now because I know it is.

I think— is it on the, uh, the Sea serpent table out there?

Uh, the sea serpent table is where you keep your back.

Have you seen that table? Oh, it's the dopest. That guy, the Dao, the guy that did our— the guy that did our table in our green room at the club. Okay, with the snake. Yeah, that guy's amazing, man. He did— do we have a— oh dude, he's so good. He's so good. He's made me an alligator. There's an alligator out there that's like surfacing out of the water. Wow, cool. That I have in the pool room, but on the table There's a sea serpent one. It's the fucking shit, man. It's got boats and the sea serpents coming out of the water. We have a video of it, right? I think there's a video of it on my Instagram.

People smoke cigars, dude. El Segate.

Oh, wait, hold on. Before we get to that, please pause and find that, um, that table. I just— while we're on the subject, I'll forget it because I want to give this guy some credit because he's, uh, he's really fucking good. He's super talented.

I love you got a sea serpent table with an authentic walrus dick on it.

Well, the walrus dick was given to me by Stephen Ranella. So this is, uh, this is— it is— it's the_dow. Oh, that's cool. So that's the table that's in our studio. That's the one that we had to saw in half to get upstairs because we— it was originally for this— it was originally for here, rather, for the studio. Yeah, and then I said that belongs in the comedy club. Yeah, that really belongs as the green room. Find the, the sea serpent one though, Jamie. He made me a— I think that's it. Hold on. All right, go to the left. That's it right there. Click on that. That's it. Look at that fucking thing. Look, it's got a boat and look at the sea serpent coming out of the water. This is where it gets crazy at the end. Oh, that's not ours.

It's not exactly ours.

That's not exactly ours. That's just another one. That's another one. That's pretty cool. I thought that was ours. Oh, that's an octopus one. That's different.

That's awesome, dude.

He's insane. Scott Dow. He's really fucking talented.

Oh, look at the bottom. It's underneath it too. That's fucking cool.

Oh dude, he's so sick, and he does a lot of it— the beginning work, he does it all with chainsaws, man.

Wow.

Does he have like smaller, like a number 2 chainsaw? That's a smaller—

Well, he gets down to the nitty-gritty, and then he starts using complex tools. But, um, okay, it's before that.

Swimming dog. Classic swimming dog table.

We've had it for a few years now, so this is only like 6 months ago.

I know, but he reposts stuff. I follow him on Instagram. Um, he's super fucking talented though, man. He does a lot of these now. Wow. When we blew him up on the internet, he, uh, he got real popular. He was real popular.

Oh, I know a guy that makes fake Morris dick.

It's on my Instagram.

What is that made out of? Is that made out of bone?

No, that's fake.

That's That's fake, but the one we have outside is actually—

But it's a sound design.

Fossilized giant walrus dick.

But what's the material? So it's a joke. Sorry.

Originally it was a bone.

No, he— oh, that's—

This is some kind of wood. Oh, okay. It's fake.

I mean, who cares? It's a fraud.

Are you sure? Can I feel it? You sure it's fake?

Go ahead. I'm a good detective. I'm actually holding the tip. You're holding the base. A lot of— it's just—

Let me smell it.

Oh God. Does it smell right?

No, it does smell fake.

It tastes weird too, dude. I noticed that right away.

Does it smell like fake walrus dick from a mummy?

I noticed it tasted weird the second I had it.

How many, how many guys have fisted each other with one of these? A lot. For sure more than one.

Usually we sit on these and do it.

Many.

But if you have a baculum and I have a baculum, okay, then it's not as rare as we think because we both have them and you didn't know I had one. Right?

You got me good with that

one.

So how many guys have stuffed these up their ass? That's the question. More than

a

thousand.

Well, because Texas, I was just thinking. Easily. Easily. What's that joke you have about how Texas has stronger dildo laws than gun laws?

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, it does. And so this is the kind of thing that I think is gonna— well, it leads to— if they can't get it in the shops, they're gonna get it from walrus baculum.

That's right.

Or they're gonna carve their own, you know? Yeah, good old-fashioned ingenuity. Prison style. Know-how.

Is this more of a Tallarico or the other guy issue?

Walrus baculum cane with 24-karat gold-plated handle.

Wow, is that the former owner?

Yeah, look at him. I have this in my rectum. Starting bid only $10. That's it.

That's a good deal.

Oh, this is a long time ago. This is 2014.

Oh, from God's ear to my taint.

And a photo of Wayne Hudson, original owner.

Um, the current bid is only $128.

Hey, take a picture of me and keep it with this whale dick, uh, cane.

You gotta put headphones on so we could all hear each other, otherwise we're gonna talk over each other.

I was looking for Elsie Gale. It said— I keep seeing videos from about a year ago where it's saying Elsagate 3.0 is starting up and a bunch of AI videos are being used to make it. And then again, I was trying to like cut in because I saw this pop up and I was like, I'm always like, no, fuck, is this—

oh my God, this

candy,

it's part

of that AI.

That's AI. It's not. I don't— I

mean, I don't want to see this, Jamie.

I want to see that.

It's not real though, is it? It's not.

Oh my fucking— and so you leave your kids sitting in front of the TV, they're going to end up seeing a little red canary get decapitated. That's why you can't do that. Then it turns into candy, so it's okay. Yeah, that's true.

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It's fucking weird.

What are those videos? I don't know. What do you think is the— somebody had to put effort into these.

Well, yeah, it's a— it's to speak to subconscious. It's like a Twilight language.

So what do you think it's doing to your kids? Like, what, what is the goal?

It's discombobulating them. It's giving them nightmares. It's like he's saying, it's getting deep into your psyche.

It's turning them into a fucking gender blob. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, this is the kind of shit the person who like— this is all the shooters probably what they were watching as kids. Go back to that, what the pregnant Spider-Man—

This is shit that in MKUltra in the '50s you'd have to watch. You'd be forced to watch it all night. Ping pong balls on your eyes and have to watch that shit.

And they just get pumped out. Like, that's what's weird about it is they just appear. These channels appear, they get populated with these bizarre animations, they disappear, they reappear.

Well, what's really weird is they started coming out before AI was even available. Yeah, somebody had to put some money into making those cartoons.

That's right. Yeah. And also there's a lot of animation in Vietnam. A lot of people send their shit to get animated there. So,

hey, um, how about this? We already know the damage just growing up with Disney cartoons did to everyone. We already see the damage of that.

What did it do?

Well, Disney adults for one thing. Do you think that's a thing that should exist? You don't think that's—

They're happy. They're happy. If they weren't doing that, they'd be trading coins.

Says the guy dressed like an elf.

From a hot dog.

Listen to the fucking hot dog.

Listen to the techno cowboy.

Listen to the CIA cowboy. Sorry, sorry.

Jesus Christ, we're on the air. Fuck, dude.

Guy blows your cover every 5 minutes.

Peter Thiel's gonna be texting you after this is over.

He's

texted me 3 times already during this show.

I only hang out with smart people.

So what do you think happened to the Disney boys?

The Disney boys?

People that watch Disney?

Wait, Disney boys?

Disney boys? That's like the worst shit of all time.

Whatever it is, it's horrible. We should make an AI show called the Disney boys. Yeah, just based on these guys that are the cool guys that are a part of the Disney gang. You know, Disney gangs?

The Disney boys.

Like you have gangs where you have to do certain things to be in the gang. Yeah. Like you have to get kicked off of a ride. You have to disrupt.

Yeah.

Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it's part of like some of the Disney gangs.

Yeah, definitely. Well, I used to be a Kia boy, but I had to step it down 'cause I had ankle bracelets, so I stepped down to being a Disney boy.

Disney boy.

Those kind of hijinks.

Kia, like the car company?

The Kia boys, they steal Kias. They're the easiest to steal cars, so there's gangs of Kia boys that just steal Kia.

Oh, I have heard of that. I've never heard of that. Yeah, apparently Kias are easy to steal.

Yeah, with like a USB key or something really easy, they could do it in like 30 seconds.

Oh wow. No idea. That's hilarious.

Did you say a USB key?

Yeah, it was like a Honda and a Kia. Oh my God. Like they could rip 'em off real fast.

It's that easy?

There was 15, like 12.

Doesn't take a CIA guy to know that's not gonna be— It

can't be that exciting to steal a Kia though.

Well, when you're 15,

it is when you post it online and you call yourselves the Kia Boys.

That's true.

You don't even have a driver's license.

Alex Jones, the guy that got shot, he had a Kia.

Really?

Yeah. I was like, oh, maybe he got assassinated. Then I heard Kia. I'm like, no, they were just taking his Kia.

Wow. That's—

is that really what they were doing? They shot him because they were stealing his Kia?

As soon as I heard he had a Kia, I'm like, that's a plausible reason. So depressing.

Interesting. And then the guys recorded— I abandoned all investigation because there's a key involved.

I abandoned all investigation.

He's like, it's solved.

Well, I wasn't on— look, I wasn't being paid to be on that case.

Mystery solved. Mystery solved.

Mystery Boys don't work for free. Now, Alex is a friend, but until I get—

I feel like Disney Boys would be a really good show. The Disney Boys? The cool guys.

It's kind of all their shows.

Out of all of the different gangs at Disney, these are the coolest. They're the Disney Boys. And everybody wants to get in on the Disney Boys.

Yeah,

they're into some sick shit. I'll take that.

They're gatekeepers.

Yeah.

So what do you think happened to people? What's the major damage from watching Disney?

I mean, everything about it is designed to get into the subconscious and get that sense of magic that like forever, you know, to the point of when you're an adult. And then meanwhile, while you're getting poisoned with autism poisons to make people that buy all the products— 80% of them never drive a car. If you ever watch Love on the Spectrum, which liberals love it, by the way, you can see that you— they're just a lot of fun. You tell them who they— what they— what sex they are. You can tell them who they like. They're weird about— they don't really reproduce until it's like socially okay. They, uh, you fuck up Star Wars 10 years in a row making shitty Star Wars, and they'll still love it and cry when the preview comes on. Those are the perfect citizens, okay? Mm-hmm. And then you got that nice Disney thing to fixate on because you got people You know, it's not like being a psychopath. They have a— they want to connect, but they have a hard time connecting.

So you think that's by design? Like they're making people—

The most compartmentalized people, so then— so they can't look at the big picture. Everybody's being trained to never look at the big picture, as if that's above their pay grade. Like you're not supposed to ever assemble these things. You're not supposed to remember anything for more than a month, and almost no one does.

I feel like I agree and I disagree. I feel like you chain things together that aren't necessarily connected. So here's like autism, okay? I think autism, a big factor is not just the various environmental toxins that people are ingesting, but also a lot of the fucking vaccines they're giving kids when they're young, for sure. I don't think they're doing that to make people autistic. I think they're doing that to profit off of these vaccines. Well, um. Right? I think once they take advantage of Hold please while I'm talking. Once they take advantage of it and they understand that it's a thing, then they use it to their advantage. I think once they understand that it's a thing, like, oh, we're making more autistic people, there's definitely more autistic people, now we can kind of weaponize it, now we kind of like mold them in a certain direction. I don't think they engineered autism. I don't think— I'd like to think at least that people aren't that evil.

Why do you like to— will you tell me what China did? That thing you told me that they were trying to make their IQs higher, so they were putting something—

Yeah, they— what they did is they gene-edited kids and they said they did it to prevent HIV, which like, who's even worried about HIV today? Fucking zero people. The HIV might've been the greatest psyop since COVID And far as like what Fauci did, like what, the way he mind fucked people with COVID he mind fucked people to a much greater extent with HIV.

So you don't think people are evil though? And after you already know about that—

I don't think individuals like Fauci, yes, very capable.

Oh, just a few bad apples in the fucking DARPA shit, really?

No, no, no, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying, I don't know if Disney like worked together with the government to purposely engineer autism so they can make better citizens.

I didn't say that. You have a link I'm not making that they engineered autism personally. It's part of programming. Everything's propaganda coming out of Hollywood since the start. It's deeply Pentagon embedded. Everybody knows that. Tommy Lee Jones's cousin was a liaison to all like, uh, who's that? What's the one with Claire Danes? You ever see Claire Danes when she was on that

show? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, on Colbert.

And she goes, yeah, and she's like a dingbat, and then we go on the CIA camp. And Colbert, who I think is hip just 'cause he did this, he had to like tamp it down immediately. So no, it's linked very intimately.

Right, but you don't think that Disney or that these people are purposely working with the government?

Of course they're working with the government.

Like they want more people autistic.

Not everybody gets to know every piece of the thing. I'm just telling you, So what is the propaganda? So all the complaints now about woke, everything's woke, right? Don't you hate that? Right, right, right.

So why is it like that? Do you think that they're on purpose making people autistic? Is that— are you saying that's part of it?

Whatever. When they discovered this condition from poisons that they're allowed to put it— and that RFK, by the way, sold us out on— they're allowed to put these in the environment after knowing what the shit is. So yeah, I don't want to think people are evil, but they are clearly, because Because you wouldn't phase that out, you would get rid of it immediately if you didn't like that it was doing— making the frogs gay, how Alex said inartfully but correctly. That shit mutilates genitals and sex genes.

Yeah.

Okay, so once you know it does that and you're not doing shit, and in fact it becomes more, that means you want to do it. That's how I look at it.

I think they just want the money. They want the money. You think they have money? They want the profit. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Not a— a major corporation has to increase their revenue every quarter. Dude, corporations aren't free.

We have state capitalism. They're all— all of them have government contracts.

Can I give my theory on this?

Yes, Hot Dog, thank you.

Okay, this is— this, you know, you know cymatics?

Cymatics, I know the term, I forget what it is.

Cymatics.

Who is Cy?

Cymatics, he's a great dude. He's like one of my favorite—

Is this like an offshoot of Dianetics?

No, it's when you just— you put like baby powder on a speaker and you You play certain frequencies and it forms geometries.

Oh, I have seen that.

So, I think what both of you are tuning into is a kind of cultural cymatics, that there exists in the world a frequency of greed or evil or selfishness that shows up in these specific ways throughout history over and over and over again. The exploitation of children, the sacrifice of children, the exploitation of the energy of people to make yourself more powerful. This has been going on since all So

I said that?

What? Yeah, he's really smart, and you bully him, but he's a nice kid.

He's got bad skin, you know how I am.

Well, let's, let's think about— just think about the idea of prescribing drugs for kids that are unnecessary, that will kill them, but also make companies a profit. That is child sacrifice.

Absolutely.

It's just a roundabout, sort of a weird filtered way where you don't think about it like that. But it's almost like what the Aztecs were doing.

It's very— it's just—

it's exactly— It's just you're doing it for money. They're doing it for favor with the gods.

So it's like the—

That's the same thing.

The baby powder that you're pouring on the speaker, it changes color, but it's the same exact shape. It's always child sacrifice.

So it is child sacrifice. It's just that they dance around this maze so you don't think of it as child sacrifice where they're injecting kids with COVID vaccines and they're all getting strokes.

Yes, or it's slavery.

It's not child sacrifice. I mean, that's a huge part of it.

It is child sacrifice.

Child sacrifice, slavery, exploitation.

Don't worry, we use every part of the portfolio.

But I mean, imagine if you're a company that's profiting off of a drug that you know is not necessary to kids, and you know for sure is killing kids, and you're still doing it for profit.

Here, let me explain. Child sacrifice.

Imagine you work in the government and you let them do that, and you have these bullshit hearings and nothing ever happens or changes, and you have a little stupid play. Imagine that. Because I've only been on a news show for now, what, 3 years, and already I'm like bored of this circle, and people still act like it's normal and they're not just doing a play. They still act like it's normal. You know,

Callie Means just left the White House today.

Really? Yeah.

Is that the long neck?

What the fuck does that mean? Callie Means was—

From Trump's menagerie of freaks. Have you not seen them?

Okay. Callie Means, who was working to try to get peptides and all these different things passed through, said, it's— I can't do this. This is like— Impossible. The deep state's real. There's all these industry insiders that are embedded in the government. They say they're gonna do something, and then they do everything they can to slow it down and keep it from happening. Peptides supposed to be done 2 years ago. All this stuff was supposed to happen a long time ago, and they're fucking hitting the brakes on everything because they want money.

Yeah,

and again, same kind of thing, right? Making money. How many people are going to lose their health, perhaps— Vampirism. Get very sick, maybe even die because they don't have access to whatever the fuck they need? And also So you're putting stuff out there still that we have wanted banned for a long time, right? Yeah. Like, like fucking glyphosate. Like, they need glyphosate. Like, this— that was the craziest argument when RFK Jr. was on here and he was explaining that to me, that they made an executive order to keep glyphosate because otherwise it would fuck up the food business. Yeah. So imagine that the food business is reliant on poison. If it doesn't use poison, it can't stay alive. open.

Right.

We can't operate without this food.

How would it fuck the business up?

'Cause it would cost so much money to change out their systems from glyphosate herbicide to— there's all these different ways they could do it. They use lasers where they fucking scan over the things and they zap the plants that aren't the right ones. And then if they wanted to do everything like regenerative farming, that takes fucking a decade.

Right.

You have to change the soil. You have to do so much. You have to compost. You have to like re-energize the biomaterial that's in the soil and turn it to enriched— like, you to get fertilizer, you have to have like dead animals and shit, and it has to like become a living thing again. Because right now it is, it's a fucking toxic dust layer that just sits there and keeps anything from— and then they pour a bunch of fucking minerals and nitrogen and all different things all over just so the stuff can grow.

Right.

And it's like, to change that and make it so that you don't need industrial fertilizers, you don't need herbicides, you It'll take fucking forever and it costs so much money because we've been tricked by these fucking crooks. These people that have decided to make the most amount of money and poison people. Probably initially they probably didn't realize what they were doing, but once they realized they were poisoning people, they just kept doing it.

Yeah, but you know, in some way—

They've done it on purpose many times, remember that. Don't you remember what they did to them kids in Kansas City? What they did to people in San Francisco? They drizzled that cobalt shit on Black kids in Kansas City.

What cobalt shit?

Yeah, I can't remember what, cobalt-13? Was

this the one from the fans? No, that was a different thing. This is the Army.

They went to a building next to another building, okay? And then they weren't using like a plane even, they were just spraying it into these kids.

That's right, right. I don't remember what it was though. You said it's cobalt?

To see what I would do!

They wanted to see how much they could affect people in case they wanted to use like a bioweapon.

Well, I'm sure it's reformed since there's no justice ever for these people. I'm sure it's gotten better.

Well, they did with MKUltra. That stopped. It

stopped.

All right, fair point.

They don't do it anymore.

I stand corrected.

San Francisco, they were trying to see if they could spread a disease, so they spread like a cold, right? Didn't they? Like, they spread something like the flu.

They put it in the subways.

Is that what they did?

I heard they fumigated the subways with this thing.

I think they did something where they sprayed it in the air too, because the way the wind was drifting, they wanted to see how many people would infect.

Right. And so at that point, I think Metzger's making a fair That's evil. Oh, watching Fair Point. Yeah, I love seeing that. Fair Point with the Disney boys. With the Disney boys. Hot dog and CIA.

And the elf.

Company man and the elf.

I mean, that's evil. I don't think it— and maybe you could argue just greed is evil. Greed is vampirism. Maybe you could— that's the argument.

It's not just that. Greed at a certain level.

But do vampires think they're evil?

What's above that though? That's, I'm a royal. I'm not saying it literally the royals, but also they are. But that feeling of, I want eugenics for me and I want dysgenics for you. I'm gonna be a living god by pushing you down to the category of mineral, thereby making me, you know, a special transhuman fucking nightmare from the Dune series.

What is this, Jamie?

It was a great series. I don't think they're all nightmares.

Is it— oh, that's cadmium sulfide.

Hold on, let me get to the top to show you.

What?

This is the Historical background of the US biological warfare program, and it gets into—

1941 they started. Holy shit.

Here's a total of 160 tests using various simulants. Fine, maybe stimulants, but I

don't know. Simulants. Simulating. They're simulating disease.

Wish it was stimulants.

Conducted at 66 locations, both military and civilian targets in the United States. Holy shit, including Alaska and Hawaii. So they did 160 different tests where they try to infect people. They don't do it anymore though. Or at least pretend to infect people.

They stopped.

Specific dates, locations, and substances used are in an Army report, uh, 1977, Conduct of BW Testing. Specialized sampling and analysis techniques were used to determine the various parameters of the test requirements and the downwind travel distances. Jesus

Christ,

bro.

Well, see the subways right there? Mm-hmm. Back then.

New York and San Francisco. They got a lot better, dude.

Yeah, I don't know why people think I'm saying anything far out ever, because this is Nazi-level shit here. Well, we brought all those Nazis, so we're gonna do some Nazi stuff, right?

Oh, that's true.

They probably learned a lot. I just found this out, uh, the OSS, when they, you know, merged with the remaining Nazis of the SS to form the CIA, it wasn't— yeah, that's how they got that. But it was the world's greatest—

Let him roll, baby! You gotta let him rip! It's good shit, baby!

How do all these people— wait, you had all them CIA guys, none of them know this?

Hold on, hold on, say it again, say it again.

You had all them CIA guys on here, none of them know this? this?

I don't know. That's what

the OSS says. And I'm like, no, I don't know it.

He always does that. He looms over you and then goes, you don't know?

He's got his curriculum ready to—

This hat was not good with the headphones.

So explain it again. The OSS, what happened with the Nazis after

the war? They merged with the SS, you know, Otto Skorzeny, I believe, that carried on Gladio. That's the strategy of tension where you fund like both sides of the thing. So you've heard of this.

The strategy of tension.

Southern Poverty Law Center, you texted me about when they were doing— they were paying for the Charlottesville—

Yes, yeah, that's a strategy of tension.

That goes back to Otto Skorzeny. That goes back to Otto Skorzeny after the war. That's a Nazi.

So they— that— do you sure that that wasn't like standard techniques that people just use? Like Nero burned Rome, right? They've always done things.

Yes, I mean the term, yes, but you are correct. But the strategy of tension, that term comes originally from Otto Skorzeny's group, the Gladiators.

Interesting, okay. And so the—

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think I am.

Well, we'll find out. We'll put that into AI Perplexity, our sponsor.

Let's ask AI Perplexity.

Let's see if Perplexity knows how the CIA was formed.

Well, I did ask, and it's very strange what it says here. I'll— the last paragraph.

Well, it is inaccurate. I was trying to say—

The OSS merged with the SS is inaccurate. The documented history is that American intelligence agencies used former Nazi personnel and networks for Cold War intelligence, not that the 2 wartime organizations merged. Yet if you have an organization and you have people in that organization and they join your organization, you fucking merge.

That's a difference. That's a merger.

But the organization above both of them that the CIA is under and probably still under, I believe, is called the World Commerce Commission. Some shit like that.

What?

Never heard of it.

That's who merged them together, was in charge of that and then making it. Um, uh, if you watch my boy Sean Patrick Hazlett's show, uh, Through a Glass Darkly, great. If you like—

Say it slowly so people can hear your words.

Sean Patrick Hazlett. What

was the other— the term of the show? The name of the show?

Through a Glass Darkly.

Okay, Through a Glass Darkly.

Duncan's been on it.

What?

You've been on it.

I've been on that show?

Holy shit. Am I being gaslit? Is that what this is?

Hey man, I'm just a hot dog. I don't know.

Sean from Turning Point Sam Tripoli.

Turning Point Sam Tripoli?

Yeah, my think tank.

Oh, Through a Glass Darkly. It's good. I love that show. I remember. Sorry, Sean. I remember Why would they do

that? Yeah, my think tank. Like, I don't know what the fuck.

He's got a think tank.

Yeah. Well, it's just a group text. It's not really— I probably am overselling it.

No, no, you're not overselling it because it's got like doctors and professors.

So let's call our text thread the think tank too.

Yeah, we should.

It was already kind of being used on Turning Point San Francisco.

You can have 2 think tanks.

Can you have 2 think tanks? Like a lot of guys involved in multiple startups.

Dude, Dizzy Boys.

Oh my God. Dude, are you watching this? Have you watched The Dropout, the Elizabeth Holmes Hulu series?

No, how is it?

It's so good. It's so good. I get— I mean, I'm wondering, is it so good because I got really engrossed in the story when I was listening to The Dropout podcast? But I've been watching the show, and you know, just because I haven't seen the movie yet, I wanna watch the show and then see the movie. But the fucking— that chick, Amanda, what's her name? Amanda Seyfried? Holy shit, is she good, dude.

Oh, she plays her?

She's so good. Oh wow. You see her, she slowly starts changing her voice. She acts completely autistic through the entire show. She's fucking really good. Wow. That show is crazy. I can't believe I didn't even hear anybody recommend it before.

Look at that.

Uh, yeah, big difference.

Hooray for Hollywood.

I mean, I'm kind of for the improvements to the And, you know, they

should have made her a Black man. It would have been just as accurate.

Dude, I'm way into that idea. Are you kidding?

I would have been entranced by Elizabeth Holmes. I would have been sucking her feet.

Not one that looked like that.

The real one would have taken me in a second. Like that— those eyes, those deep blue eyes. You saw it in the Nathan Fielder clip when she's looking at him. She draws you in with those eyes. And you know what you're not experiencing? People like that that have an aura. They have a, a real vibe that pulls you in. So you're just— when you're just looking at that like a 2D picture, it's nothing compared to when you're in their presence. And

so you think that if you were— if you said, hey, no cameras, no films, could I just come over your house and ask you questions about what happened? Yeah. You think that she would just get you? Very slowly.

She would suck you in. Suck you into her web. Think of how much money she Think of like what she did. Like, if we take the ethics and morality out of it, it's spectacular. Like, when you look at like the ability to manipulate people at the level that she did, that's more than— you just can't know until you're around someone like— I mean, you've been around, you have people like that on your podcast. You can feel their vibe.

Not at that level.

Not at that level. The charm of J.D.

Vance coming at you like that, you couldn't feel it? Oh

yeah,

trust me. Trump, I'm sure, radiates some kind of weird aura. Like, you know, anytime I've been around people like that, you know, they, they get you. They— there's— who knows what it is, mirror neurons? Who knows what it is? But these are warlocks. These are sorcerers.

There's a little bit of hypnosis involved in being someone who has a fake startup, right? You're doing something, you're pitching this thought, and they all think they're gonna cash in. But there was also the culture of startups. in Silicon Valley where there was a lot of bullshit startups. And a lot of people— like, that was one of her arguments, was that everybody was doing this. Everybody was kind of bullshitting. Everybody was like making these— yeah. My problem with the show is it's really good and there's facts in it for sure. Yeah, we're absolutely— they definitely faked these things. They did this. They got people to invest under false pretenses. I don't like when there's dialogue between people and I know somebody just made it up. It takes me right out of

it. Me too, dude.

When they're like, they're alone, like, Sonny Balwani and her alone and they're acting weird together. I'm like, you don't know if that's real. Right. Like, you're making me think about them a very specific way that you can't— they didn't participate. They didn't help you. Yeah. They didn't tell you I said this and then she said that. So you're just making things up and you're pretending. It's like gonzo journalism. You're mixing fake. Like, that's what Hunter used to do.

Right, to propagandize me a certain way.

Yes, yes. So part of me is like, I don't think you should be able to do that. But that's a good warlock trick. But if you're gonna— well, by the people who made the show.

I mean, Gonzo journalism, like, yeah, it's like reporting, but it's not. I'm lying.

Did you ever see the thing that he did about the election? Awesome. Well, did you ever see the thing that he did about the election when he did Fear and Loathing on the campaign trail? Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. So he made Ed Muskie go crazy. He made him go crazy, 'cause he was saying that he was using a Brazilian witch doctor and he was addicted to ibogaine. Do you know this whole story at all?

Yeah, no, I know. I find it to be very strange.

caused the guy to have a nervous breakdown. And so the guy was on the campaign trail and he's like, I am not a drug addict! And he would like literally go crazy. And then so Hunter— find the video of Hunter on the Dick Cavett Show. He's admitting on the Dick Cavett Show that he made this whole thing up and he caused this guy's campaign to sink. Wow. And affected the entire election.

You know, this is so funny because I was just watching this thing on Aleister Crowley, and in his confession He was saying that he made Nazi Germany fall apart, like he infected Germany with these insane ideas.

You're never gonna forgive him for that, are you? I mean, let it go, man. Let it go. Remind your boy Theo, loving them.

Oh my God. Oh my God.

I couldn't believe people— look at this— that Muskie was getting even. the king. I never said he was. I said there was a rumor in Milwaukee that he was, which was true, and I started the rumor in Milwaukee.

He finally said, well, you

mean— So that was right. He's saying, I said there was a rumor in Milwaukee and it's true because I started the rumor in Milwaukee.

Exactly.

So he started this rumor, he wrote about it.

Yeah.

And then he caused the guy to go crazy.

Yeah. Magic, pure and simple.

Well, voodoo's real. Yeah. Right? If you believe in voodoo, if you believe— if I tell you I'm putting a spell on you and you believe believe it, yeah, your life's gonna fall apart.

Okay, true. Well, like you said, you don't want to believe people are evil. That's the spell, right? Vodun. Gnostic Vodun is the basis of a lot of the mass programming for, uh, Americans. I didn't know it was pronounced Vodun, by the way. That's how it's pronounced. And, uh, but they use a lot of that. And, uh, uh, the main thing though, because you had, uh, Grusch on here talking about the 4 NHIs, right?

Right.

Yeah, 4 NHI. That sounds like Like

a band,

like Simon Cowell's, like those guys that were just singers, like Il Divo, like the 4 NHI. Yeah, and they do opera songs. There, uh, was it the bug one and the lizard one and the Nordics? Right, Germans and the, uh, whatever the other—

well, the Nordics look like, like Greek gods. Yeah, or like— yeah.

So that's when he— okay, that part stuck out when he was talking about the one looking kind of blue and Ridley Scott Prometheus-ish.

Yeah. Yeah,

um, so they— it's eugenics and dysgenics. And, um, a big thing that I just learned of, and it's from South Africa, is called tokoloshe.

Oh, this is good.

Yeah, on Mystery Boys. Uh, oh, this one, it already—

This is fucked up.

So you know what tokoloshe is?

No.

Uh, Credo Mutwa, who's the shaman that David Icke likes from South Africa that taught him about the lizards. You know that guy? No. You've never had either Credo— no, I'm joking. All right, so—

Dr. Lizard. You

don't know Dr. Lizards? Oh. Anyway, he— it's in his book, but they would have practice, which, like, the fucked-up ones, where they take like a pygmy, or which I guess is a small person. I'm not, not clear, but it's a human pygmy, right? It just means they're small, small in the jungle or something. Okay, take them, or just say like someone who's got a disability or a mutation, you know, any kind of malformed person, right? Are these— they would grab these people and raise them like like they put like bent, uh, wood to like make their limbs grow weird to turn them into like monstery goblin. And then, and then, uh, just, it's just torturing a human and mutilating them until they're crazy and think they're another entity, like a supernatural entity called Tokoloshe. The CIA studied that, okay? And it brought that shit here. And so the 4NHI, I say, are— this is why the aliens need sperm and ova, because Because they're making this stuff out of people. It's all— they've been doing this shit under the Energy Commission probably since '48. They've been— so remember that they're making this shit out of

people. So you're saying that they're these non-human intelligences? They're human.

They made— they made— they made them.

Yes, people made them.

Now they could do a CRISPR. They don't have to tie your spine to a bent wood anymore and beat you. They can do it with blue light, Spider-Man, Elsa, and they can fucking It's like you're being sculpted by your phone into the thing they want you to be.

The Grays are just some warped mutant hybrid person.

That's why they look like fetuses, I bet. And that's why they gotta steal you.

Wait a minute, they've been doing— wait a minute, they've been seeing Grays since the '50s. You think they were doing it back then?

Here's what I'm getting to. So do you remember Diana Pasulka? Or not, uh, not Diana Pasulka, um, uh, the one that wrote the DARPA book? I'm blanking on it. Annie Jacobsen.

Annie Jacobsen.

And remember at the time I thought this story was so stupid that DARPA said it was deformed kids that Russia sent over to, like, freak us out?

That was the Roswell thing.

Yeah.

Yeah. So now I understand that story a lot better. 'Cause tokoloshe in South Africa, they're rare, but you can still find those farms in the mountains where they're just raising, you know, like troglodyte people or something that would never see the light. They torture them, tell them they're like a— and they can climb, and people die of fright seeing these things.

So wait, you think that all these alien abduction experiences, it's all human-created? Well,

I didn't say fake. I said like they made— they speciated us into 4 other things. And the reason is that the Nordics— the Nordics are the eugenics end. That's the— that's— you could tell us from back then because they're blonde and blue blood and blue-eyed, you know, the ideal of the '50s. Then you got your lizard people, which is straight out of fucking Star Trek. And by the way, that guy was a creep, Gene Roddenberry. Just so you know, he's a fucking creep. Jesus Christ. Okay, but the lizard— lizards and men don't come from space, they come from here. And so that you can— and that's why the, the sightings in other countries, because like, okay, what's going on? Why would people see different things? They all need your sperm and eggs though. That always is a thing.

Let me back him up here.

Because the whole moviemaker people are the ones designing these. They've had this CRISPR shit for a long time.

What the fuck, dude? Dude, Joe, look it up. Jamie, maybe you could pull this up.

And that's what the Jews are coming from.

Kurt, come on. They just mixed a mouse brain with a human brain. Did you hear about this?

Yes, I told you in confidence and now, okay.

I'm sorry, I forgot. I forgot. It's getting heated here. I'm sorry. But, you know, what he's saying, even though it does sound absolutely insane, but honestly, it doesn't sound as insane. Hold that while you talk about it. It doesn't sound as insane as beings from other dimensions coming here. It's equally insane. But when you look at what we're doing now, creating human-mouse brain hybrids with brain organelles harvested from stem cells. We are doing that. And you look at what we just looked at with the subway bioweapon tests, that was in the '40s. So it— would it surprise you that secret branches of every government were doing eugenics studies, were abducting children and warping them to see if we could make super soldiers?

Or how about farming them?

I mean, there's clearly a market press for that if you're trying to have a military advantage. And when it comes to having a military advantage, morality goes out the window, man.

Right, but do you think they would create little gray aliens with giant heads and big black eyes? I'll tell you why they did.

This goes back to the Annie Jacobson thing, because the space race— I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why. The space race with the Soviets.

Okay. Right? Right.

Okay.

This was before the space race, bro.

What are you doing? Oh, God. Don't touch me with the tip, it's cold!

Before you— this is a— I did find something about the Tokoloshe phenomenon. Is this someone quoting it? But nothing I found said it was real, but this is what it says.

Okay, so this is talk of a Tokoloshe farm somewhere in the country where deformed children are raised as assassins. Holy shit. Trained with, with muti knowledge. I don't know what that means. And all the terrifying things whispered about in secret. I haven't seen it, but it's something we're told to be aware of.

It's the X-Men.

You know, it means like mind your business in Bantu or some shit, or it's like this is evil, don't ask about it. They won't make carvings of it. So think how, how top classified of knowledge of it is. They won't make a carving of it since going way back.

Assassins.

They don't want to disclose it because you can't. It's terrible.

Says there's 3 grades of tokoloshe. The most common one people know is like a little hairy man. Often it's not mystical at all. It could be trained animals, even baboons, used by certain people to carry out menial tasks. It's more psychological warfare. When you see something that fits the idea of a tokoloshe, fear grips you, and that fear becomes its own weapon. So that's,

that's mind war right there. That's what you call nice mind war

in South Africa. Or,

well, we— they studied everything. Remember, uh, scopolamine, making zombies— zombies are not undead. Zombies are people that have been tricked and brainwashed. You know, I took your heart, now this rock is your heart, and don't lose this ring, or I own your—

That was an explanation from the resident healer, Sangoma Fazil

Pretorius. Heavenly Healings resident healer. I love the name of the company, Heavenly Healings. A place like where you go to like get a tantric massage.

This is him talking about it.

That's him. I don't trust people with nose rings. Shut the fuck up.

What about the pentagram necklace?

Any man— why do you not trust this man? You don't trust chicks with nose rings.

I don't trust him as a dermatologist either, I'll tell you that.

Here he goes, attacking people with skin conditions.

He should go to a laser guy. Get his face.

Yeah, that's just helpful.

I think—

I don't think that's hateful.

I just— I'm not into guys with nose rings.

Jamie, I just hear you. Girls can look hot with nose rings.

I got my nose pierced when I was a kid in Venice Beach. It got fucking infected.

I bet you did.

It just got swollen.

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wanted to see what it felt like.

Did it feel good?

No.

Makes you feel like you're like a little bit of a rebel.

It was the real dumb crazy.

It was real dumb crazy living on the edge.

Could have lost my nose.

Oh, really? Was that bad?

It got super— well, no, I mean, but it— I mean, I got my— some dude on the Venice Boardwalk shoved a needle into my nose and it got infected.

You could have lost it. That's not as exciting, but But I know what you mean. It is weird.

Well, when do you get an infection? And especially if you get— like, that's, that's the risk of getting a nose job too, right? How many people have gotten nose jobs and gotten an infection? Yeah. And you have rotting tissue in your nose.

Nose rots off.

And you're smelling just dead meat everywhere.

Oh my God.

Oh Jesus Christ. I

didn't even consider the smell.

Smells like just stinking feet.

The good thing though is that olfactory senses, uh, it just detects changes in smells. That's why people that live in a town that smells like shit, like when you're driving through it, they don't notice it. Right. Yeah.

Wait, that's interesting. So that's like a smoker can't— because I could never smell cigarette smoke when I smoked.

Exactly. Right, right. Yeah. People that are— when you like, if you live in an area that stinks, you don't detect it. You detect changes in smells, which is really weird.

Yeah.

What if I live in a shirt that stinks?

I wonder what that's for. Do you think that's so people get used to eating rotten food when you have to?

Probably. Probably. I mean, you don't want to be tortured by it.

It could also be a misfire off another

Maybe it's just because people lived around the smell of shit for so long. Like, think about like Roman life when they would just take buckets of shit and throw it out the window. Yeah, but a farm, at least it's out there. But it's with everything. It's out in the field. That's manure. That's different. Look at human shit that they're throwing out the window and there's people stacked on top of each other.

Sounds like New York.

It's

the 1800s. Yeah, but think of like telephone poles. poles. They're everywhere, but you never notice them. The whole— like, everywhere you go, these— there's fake trees with, with metal, right?

Here we go again.

And you just get accustomed to it.

You get accustomed to it.

Yeah, it looks normal.

Oh, the wire trees aren't real.

They're not real, man.

That's a telephone pole. I keep telling you that.

Did you ever— you ever see the depictions of New York City before cars, when it was just horse-drawn carriages? There shit in the— everywhere, the entire— all those people were sick. Like, you wonder where these diseases came from. All those people were sick. Well, I bet they got a hearty typhoid. Yeah,

and they didn't know. But what's crazy is this was before germ theory. They had— they called it a miasma, and they thought it came from bad smells. They thought diseases literally came from bad smells wafting in from swamps that contained within them in those winds rotten animal breath, which was causing diseases to spread. This is miasma theory. Look it up. That's how crazy people were.

Is that how I got asthma?

This is what they thought. They thought it was like raccoon breath, like rotten raccoon breath wafting through the wind was getting people sick. Oh my God. It's crazy.

I've caught the horse vapors.

But you gotta wonder what shit like that is happening now. Like what kind of things— It's called glyphosate.

We're not taking it out, we said.

Yeah, but there's got to be stuff like that now.

I wonder how much glyphosate is really affecting people. Like, if you could quantify it, like how many people are sick because of it, how many people got diseases because of it. Yeah, that's the other stuff. That's microplastics. That's phthalates. Phthalates are shrinking.

Are we sure of that?

Phthalates shrinking tates? Yeah, there's studies on that.

That's Dr.

Shannon from Harvard that It

is weird when you, you know, talk to younger kids, you know, like when you talk, they're all, they're all like, yeah, my taint's small. Like they're just, they just accept it.

By the way, it is Gape-tober. Remember that?

It's Gape-tober.

I feel like I gotta tell you it's Gape-tober for everybody, for your taints. Get out there.

The kids are just like all measuring taints on Snapchat.

Measure it, measure your friends, then you got a taint in you.

Like when they see porn from the '80s, they might must be like, damn, that guy's taint is gigantic.

Like a grand canyon.

You need a baculum? Yeah. You get a walrus baculum and a friend.

Can you stretch your taint like the way the guys reclaim foreskin with like—

Yes. We've explored this on the Mystery Boys many times.

You know how they use like clothespins and they pull their foreskin up to try to—

No, I wouldn't do that. I would just beat it with a firm— and a replica's fine if you can't afford the real thing. We're not all Joe Rogan and can afford real baculums.

I disagree with that. I don't think you can.

That was a gift, Kurt. I don't think you can exchange it. Don't shame me. Don't wealth shame me for my Baculon.

Wealth shaming?

Such an asshole.

You know, I have been doing that a lot.

Taint stretching. Jesus Christ.

Perineal massage.

Taint stretching is real?

That's probably for women, I think.

Perineal massage or perineal stretching refers to the gentle lengthening and conditioning—

Let's try. What even is that?

Of perineum. That's somebody banging you in the ass and calling it therapy.

Yeah, well, I mean, uh, I said that while I'm getting muscle

lotion. between the— oh, it's vagina, the vaginal opening. It is now, or scrotum. Or scrotum, interesting. Um, depending on if you're a trans woman.

Yeah,

I am.

Then they— it's vagina, sort of trans scrotum-ish, whatever.

I mean, you kind of look at everything that's going on, right? And that's when I heard the miasma shit. I was just thinking like, I think it— maybe it's glycemic Maybe it's microplastics, or maybe it's something we just haven't figured out yet.

Like DDT. Like, they didn't know what was going on with DDT. Right. And then they were like, oh shit, we gotta stop using this.

Or time, you know. We're killing everybody. Here's my crazy idea, is a lot of mental illness is related to distortions in the time-space continuum that are happening right now. Ripples in time-space are causing people to go nuts as we approach the singularity. Take it from here, Kurt.

I'm sick of your time-space bashing, first of all. Let me say that.

No, I'm saying that like— This show's very problematic.

Okay, so explain what you're saying.

I'm saying that, uh, you know, they talk about this. They can measure these— thank you— they measure these waves that happen when black holes collide, right? They ripple time-space. It ripples through the universe, and we're time-space. I just feel like a lot of this, a lot of the strange things that are happening, mental illnesses, maybe even like cancers and stuff, are potentially related to people who've been rippled— the time-space rippled them weird, and there's no way to measure that or find it. I know it's— It's true. You're not taking it back now! I know, but I, you know, we just don't know. In the same way they didn't know about germs, we— what happens if time-space ripples through you? Why do we assume that everything stays the same? Like, I don't mean to get into the CERN particle accelerator shit, but when you look When you look at that stuff, when you're like smashing the smallest parts of the universe together and creating bizarre transformations, everything's connected to everything. What effect does that have on everything else that we just don't know? But if you look at like CERN, if you look at the nuclear testing, if you look at all these things we've been doing and look at history post those moments, shit got weird and it got weird fast.

past. And I don't know, this is just something I kick around at night when I'm—

It's not a bad thought.

Yeah.

Like, we don't know, like, they created the Higgs boson when they did that, when they figured out element 115. Yeah, who knows what they're doing, really? Well, you know what the original thought was? That they were gonna create a black hole and that there was gonna be a microscopic black hole that went through the entire Earth. That was the thought.

Well, that's the fear, but they said they can make them, they're just very small and don't last, right?

That's what they thought, but they didn't know until they did it. They said, Let's see. Let's see.

So you know what they do with that?

What?

There's a thing out, and I didn't see this when you had him on here telling you that. Oh, thank you. Oh, and Alex Jones was telling you about stopping kids' hearts to send their minds through space and all that. The little tiny micron openings that they make, you can't fit an object through, but you can fit someone's consciousness through. So you do that Phoenix shit where you stop someone's heart.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You do an ejection. Wait, listen to what you just said. Yeah. They're making little black holes so they could send someone's consciousness through it.

The disclosure that they should give you is that they figured out consciousness, but they were not gonna disclose that.

What do you mean?

They figured out what consciousness is and figured out how to manipulate it with electromag— uh, I don't know. I'm not—

What do you think it is? Why do you think that they figured it out?

Well, based on my research and the people I talked to and the best stuff that I found out so far, which, um, it makes a lot of sense. You got to be—

But what does that mean though? They figured out what consciousness is.

Like how to take you out of your fucking body and pop you back in.

What?

Yeah, people do it now online. You could learn how to do it.

Oh, I think they could do it with that God helmet, right? Like, can't they induce out-of-body experiences?

Yeah, you know the God helmet? Don't put that helmet on.

But is that an illusion, or is that actually taking your consciousness out of your body?

I'm not saying that helmet's taking you out of your body, but if it's an illusion that is totally real to you, I'm not seeing a difference. But I don't say it does that, but you just You just crank the— it's like anything else, you just crank the—

Right, but you're saying they're taking consciousness out of their body and they're sending it through a black hole they created with a particle collider.

Yeah.

There's over like 30,000 particle colliders.

That's like— That's a lot of time. That's as much of a stretch as they're taking crippled kids and turning them into aliens that pilot crafts and kidnap people.

No, no, no,

crippled

kids, I lean more towards believing that theory than black hole consciousness ejection.

Both of them, I'm like, I don't know.

'Cause I don't know what a space-time ripple thing is.

Don't attack my space-time ripple theories.

What?

What does that mean?

Spacetime ripples?

Yeah, what does that mean? Don't you have that every day?

We—

well, James, he attacks spacetime ripples.

He attacks my spacetime ripple theory. Your skin could be cleaner too. And he talks about tokoloshe. Excuse me? Excuse me?

He thinks I bully him.

Son of a bitch.

Because of— yeah, he thinks I'm a bully, but I'm not. I'm bullying those stars.

I'm saying—

Those little stars you put on your zits?

We don't understand spacetime. We don't understand spacetime. It's— we— but we—

Some of us.

But I— but you know like, people experience distortion in time, like, all the time it happens.

Well, yeah, that's true.

Alien abductions, you know, one second it's like you're driving down the road, the next second it's morning. You don't know what happened.

Yeah, scopolamine as well.

Yeah, I'm just saying, like, whatever— in the way we didn't understand germs, we don't understand retrocausality. And people are starting to talk about that now, that maybe somehow events in the future ripple back into the past. That's not just stoner talk. They're exploring those ideas. Right. So, in the same way we didn't understand germs or atoms, we don't understand time-space. How much of a person's personality is the way that they're atomically interacting with the time-space continuum? And is the time-space continuum constant? No. We all know that if you take a watch, put it in orbit, time moves differently. Right. that time-space ripples— I don't know what they're called, but they can detect these waves that roll through the entire planet. All I'm saying is it's a completely understood, vast, insane reality that we don't understand. And how much does that affect culture?

How much is classified?

Yeah,

a lot of reality has been classified.

Yeah.

What do you mean? What reality has been classified?

Uh, well, anything that's classified, that would count as reality being classified. But I would say, I would say the NHI bullshit. Yo, you have that autistic guy, right? We got a good autistic man sitting here. What's his name? Grusch?

Yeah.

An autistic guy who heard a thing from a guy about a thing, right? Which, I don't know, he has no more credibility than I do. I feel, uh, I feel I'm saying way more interesting things than what Neil Grusch is telling you on this show.

It's David Grusch.

Grusch.

Well, who's Neil?

Neil deGrasse Tyson.

He mixed them together, which would be an incredible hybrid.

Yo, I just gave them a great tokoloshe idea.

Kind of terrible.

Neil deGrasse— oh

shit, Neil deGrasse Tyson makes them worse.

One person who doesn't believe in aliens at all, and one person who told me about 4 different ones. He told me about wars. They were having wars with the reptilians and the Grays and the—

The Rubedo.

Huh?

The Rubedo. That's the ultimate goal of alchemy, of of Neil deGrasse

Tyson.

Did you ever see that picture of the Siamese twins? One of them's gay, the other's not.

Is that real?

Well, how do you see that in the picture? I don't know, but I didn't want to look to see if it wasn't real.

Wait, I think that's a meme.

Okay.

Ah, shit.

Is it just the picture's real, but they just said they're not gay?

I didn't look.

Or there's a picture of one of them being gay?

It's just a Siamese twin, and one dude's kissing another dude, and the other one's kind of sitting there like, fuck.

The other one's like, sigh. I don't

think that's real.

I don't think that's real. Someone's gotta find that picture.

I think one of them's gay, the other one's into dudes. The other one's a Catholic.

Neil deGrusch Tyson.

I like it. I like it. I like it. Neil deGrusch Tyson is amazing.

That's gonna be probably the best alien show.

That would be a great character, like an AI character that's very conflicted about his belief in aliens.

I mean, do you believe Grusch? Do you believe he's telling the truth?

Well, here's the thing. He hasn't had any personal experiences of note.

He's telling you what he heard.

There was no, no thing where he was in the presence of a ship. ship, no thing where he communicated with a being. So all these people that are telling me these things, that are these programs they were read into and these videos they've seen, I take that as seriously as I take everybody else that's telling me some sort of a story. I don't know. I don't— if you don't— you haven't seen it. I think what Bob Lazar says is way more interesting and compelling.

Yes.

Well, Bob Lazar said all that stuff turned out to be Yeah. Element 115 was accurate. The fact that he was actually in Los Alamos' employee register, he was, he was 100% an employee there. The fact that he knew exactly where Area S4 was when it was completely classified. There's photos of the actual fucking hangar doors that he described decades earlier.

Did he say, um, I'm trying to remember, um, Fuck.

Glad you interrupted.

Wait, did he say the thing about that they were calling the aliens the kid, the children, or the kids or something? Do you remember him saying something like that?

I don't remember that. I don't know.

Someone was telling me that and I was like, oh, that's interesting. I don't know.

Well, they were very tiny. That was the thing about the ship that he— this one, that thing that is right there, or that one up on that fucking pic, that's from his office. This was, this was a replication of the image that was on the wall in the office where they all worked, the work And so when he first got to Area S4, before they were showing him this, he saw this on the wall. He's like, what the fuck is this?

Is this supposed to be a recovered craft or human?

It's supposed to be a recovered craft. It's supposed to be what they call the sport model. And he said when you got inside of it, it was very obvious that it was designed for tiny little things, like 3-foot-tall creatures. Like, yet everyone had to crouch inside of it, and there was no controls. There was no— it was somehow or another they controlled it it with their mind. There was like some sort of a connection between the craft and the being. Yeah. And they figured out how to pilot these things. And he said that there was 2 different generators inside of it. One of them was for going insanely fast, and one of them was for traveling at more moderate speeds. And they removed the one that was go— that made you go insanely fast, because apparently they couldn't control it.

Okay, that's just his speculation right there. What you're saying—

What?

The engineering of people that can fly those craft Both us and the Russians were probably doing it. And that's why that Roswell thing, I'll bet you those were engineered. I'm saying like farmed. I'm not saying they kidnapped kids and did it. I'm saying they farmed.

But you're saying what came first, the chicken or the egg? There's a fucking craft that you could pilot with your brain that they had in the 1980s. There's no way technology was that advanced back then. I think it's much more likely that—

Fly-by-wire was around pre-war.

Much more likely that there was probably some sort of an interaction with someone or something. Right. From something else that was different than humans. I forgot this part. I don't think they were engineering 3-foot-tall humans in 1947 to pilot these things with their brains.

I bet they were. I'm gonna buy it. Wait, hold on, hold on, wait, wait. I'm gonna forget this. Remember the guy you had on that was telling you about the pharaohs going up the river and they go to a different temple and they get bandaged up and they're trying to tune their frequency to the gods at each temple? You had an Egypt guy here telling you that. Remember him?

Yeah.

Okay, it's called atavism. That's the thing that's in the Dune series. The big part of making these creatures is— and also the mind control shit they did was atavism, the stuff from altered states where you go in the isolation chamber and regress.

Yeah.

To a certain primitive state that's in your genetic memory. Do you know what I'm talking about?

Uh, I saw Altered States, yeah.

But you know that's called atavism, right? You've heard of that?

I never heard that term.

Reappearance of an ancestral genetic trait. Oh, okay, like when people grow a tail?

This is like when chickens grow fangs.

Now think of the So the reptilians—

wow, that's crazy, Kurt. That's cool, man.

I didn't get it. I was given— dude, somebody smaller gave it to me. But, uh, dude, a lot of people send me great shit. We were both thinking—

Wait a minute, so how does that— how do you think that connects to like the Grays?

He's saying you could— you could maybe, if there was some ancestral early proto-Hominid thing, you could like bring it out of a person. Oh, that's pretty cool.

So You've seen those images of those elongated skulls from Peru?

Yes. Yes. It's as old as every civilization is altering people to make them— foot binding, castration.

No, no, no, no, no, no. The Peru skulls are different.

No, I know.

What do you mean?

Well, they're actually bigger. That's right. They're not elongated.

Dan was telling us about it.

They have a 30% larger brain capacity. The shape is different. They don't have this sagittal crest or whatever they call it, the sagittal suture. Oh, I get it. I get it. The line that we have in our skull. us, we're kids and our brains grow. Their lines are totally different. It's like a totally different kind of person.

That's why that blood cult— people were around these beings that were super advanced and they wanted to be advanced. They're like, what, all you got to do is stretch your head out?

Well, not only that, they're probably related to them too. They're probably intermingling with them. So people that have the trait are probably considered better, right?

For sure. I think there was probably some of that. And that's probably what they were talking about in the Bible when they were talking about in like the Book of Enoch and stuff like that, when the, the— when they were talking about people coming down and mating with the daughters of men.

That's in Genesis. Book of Enoch is like fan fiction.

No, no, no, no, it's not.

Book of Enoch is 3,000 BC.

It doesn't mean it's in the Bible.

You know why it's not in the Bible? Because of, because of rabbis. Because rabbis said it didn't jive with the Torah, so they removed it from the Bible. It's in the Ethiopian Bible.

But in the Book of Jude, they're quoting it.

But they quote Enoch. They quote Enoch in the Old Testament.

Isn't it 3,000 BC is like how old that Yeah, it is. It's fucking old.

It's old as shit. But what my point is, it's talking about someone coming down and mating with the daughters of men, right? Like, the interbreeding of those 2 species would make sense. Like, one of them— look, imagine how smart people are now. Imagine we had 30% more brain,

right?

Yeah. Now imagine we've been able to make someone like that, and, and they've done the experimentation. Of course, they're not gonna tell you. It's illegal. But that doesn't stop them.

For sure. Today, they're probably thinking about doing it.

No, at the very least thinking now. Edward Teller, that creep, wouldn't shock me.

That's

the reason Bob Lazar was at that place, because Edward Teller—

I gotta

piss, I'm sorry. You son of a bitch.

Wait,

so what about— what did Edward Teller do? He got—

that's why Bob Lazar was there.

What no sagittal suture means. Sagittal suture is the joint running front to back along the top of the skull between the 2, uh, parietal— parietal— how do you say that? Parietal bones.

Parietal

bones. Okay, so, but the thing— what the Paracas evidence shows— scroll down.

Hold on, I just was pointing this out.

Scaphocephaly.

14% out of the 78 studied in one study had what they call sagittal suture obliteration, where it disappears. Huh. And then this is another thing, sagittal craniosynostosis, where it disappears while it's still being in—

So what you're saying is it like could have been that their brain or their skull just grew out of them.

What if, like, what if, you know, the chickens with teeth DNA, they still, you know, they have teeth DNA, but they don't have teeth, right? Well, what if you had that trait and I could have a farm under the ground because I have the funds to do it and I have a deep underground military base called— they've had those for a while— COG, it's called Continuity of Government. That's why we have that stuff. And I could do whatever the fuck I want down there. There ain't no— in fact, the Doomsday Network created by those. That's the name of if there's a war and they got to stay in communication, it's called the Doomsday Line or something network.

Right.

That's what they were using for the Iran-Contra affair so that they could get around like Congress and other—

Well, we know that humans have Neanderthal DNA. That's right. And we know that they're making— How much is that? A lot. 57% more than most people.

I couldn't— I mean, when you said that, I was like, wow, that's a crazy number. But like, I've never heard anybody say that much of it.

Well, it's not— It makes sense though. It's not that I'm 57% more Neanderthal. You

have the same size hands as me, but they're like thicker like a goddamn Neanderthal.

Well, it's like certain people have certain genetics. Like, we look at those dudes—

You look like a long-range hunter to me. You look like a guy who wears the elephant down.

My point is, if you could find those Neanderthal genes, and if you were like the same kind of people Colossal Bioworks that made the direwolves, if they decided to take Neanderthal genes and construct an actual Neanderthal. But first of all, the other thing they're realizing about Neanderthals— How about a Nordic alien? They might have been smart.

Really?

Yeah, they have a larger brain than human beings.

They were smart, they know that. They found that just from—

But they're kind of shifting their perspective on what they were in terms of— we used to think they were just dopes, just big, big angry dopes. Yeah. But now they're thinking, no, they probably had language, they probably had toolmaking, they probably had a lot— they're probably very similar in a lot of ways to people. Yeah. physically stronger than people and they had larger brains.

So you're saying these are the Nephilim? This was the Neanderthal?

No,

I think the Nephilim, uh, I think there's some evidence that those Denisovans were a lot larger than humans. Yeah, you know those Denisovans? This is the new—

Yeah, we had Dan Duncan on the Mystery Boys talking about it.

Dan Richards, D-Dunking.

Yeah, Dan the Dunking.

Dan the Dunking. That guy's great. He's great. But that Denisovan thing is strange, man. They were big as fuck, man. They were like giant people.

There were giants in those days.

They done— they just figured that out just a decade or two ago. Yeah. How many of those are just out there that we're never gonna find?

What about the Timucuan Indians that they got? It's almost 8-foot tall. You could go see the bones down there.

Well, there's the Smithsonian bones, like all the stuff, the Smithsonian giant bones. Yeah. They're listed in like old news reports and shit. Yeah. People finding 12-foot-tall skeletons with 6 fingers and 6 toes.

The 6 fingers thing is a big, uh—

weird. Some Denisovans were big. 2 individuals have been estimated roughly 5 feet 11 inches and £183 and 6 feet 3 inches and £200. Those estimates of 2— so much larger than people were back then,

right?

Neanderthal was shorter. It's like average 5 foot 6. So Neanderthals and Denisovans are very different. But then, you know, they found those hobbit people. Yeah, right. So they know that. Do you know that Did you know that there's a lady who's like a legitimate wildlife biologist that claims she encountered those things?

What?

Yes.

What did they do?

She knows Forrest Gallant, and when Forrest Gallant was on my show, he was explaining it to me, and he told me about it afterwards. This lady claimed that, and she was like a legitimate explorer, she claimed that they were surrounding the village and where she was at, and that they were in the woods, and she saw them with her own eyes.

What are they? Were they dangerous?

They're little fucking tiny hairy people, man.

Tokoloshe!

No, it's the orang pendek.

I know, well, that's natural.

What is it? Do you know the term orang pendek? Nah. It's, uh, it's like, I think it's Indonesia, there are these tiny— and Vietnam, there's these tiny little hairy people that live in the woods. And everybody thought that was total horseshit, just like Bigfoot, just a tiny Bigfoot. Yeah, but now that they found these little tiny people on the island of Flores, right, they're okay. Like, biologically, that was a real thing. And if you're dealing with like— have you ever seen like an Indonesian You know what the Amazon jungle looks like? Intense rainforest. Like insane. Like there's no way you're gonna know what is out there. There's no way. There's no way we have an audit of all the different square footage of all that jungle. No one's been there. It's too crazy. And so these people who live there say there's little tiny hairy people.

Do they wear clothes?

No.

You know,

it's just hogs flapping around.

That's the one thing that isn't tiny.

Hogs and fucking spears.

Are they dangerous?

Well, the idea that this lady said was they were hunting people.

This is what she said. Yeah. I saw—

They were hunting giants, they would call them. Well,

think about it. Like, we kill elephants. Like, people kill elephants and eat them.

We are their Nephilim. If you're standing next to those people, you're their Nephilim.

Right, right, right.

It's a relative thing, size, you know?

But they are like us a million years ago.

I saw an interview with, I think it was some Indonesian dude, a villager who was saying like, yeah, they're out in the forest. And someone's like, well, what do they do? And he goes, they kill Yeah,

I mean, look, if you look, we know Native Americans ate people,

right? It

was like pretty common. Yeah, pretty common. Among the Nez Perce, they would, they would eat their enemy. Like, there was a normal thing, man. And also South America, like, one of the things that— what's his name— Daniel Everett was telling us, there's 2 different types of cannibalism. One is cannibalizing your enemies, and you kill your enemies, you eat them. The other one is cannibalizing your family. family members when they die. To honor them, you eat them.

Well, that's—

I've heard of that.

Yeah, it's called— or there's like martial cannibalism where they like, they fall in battle and you drink. That's the Scythian way.

Yeah, sure.

But do you eat all of them or just a little strip?

I think with your dead relatives, it's—

they're trying to— I mean, they wouldn't call it that, but they're entangling themselves with them into the afterlife.

Yeah, and they want to make sure they do that. Like, one of his— one of the guys that worked for him left. He was like, he's like, I have to go home because one of my relatives died and to eat them. Oh, like I have to be a part of the ritual.

But is it the whole body, or you just— A little, little bite.

They dunk sweet potato in the fucking drippings. I hate sweet potatoes. So the person— you don't eat them for like 3 years, or 3 days. 3 years. You don't eat them for like 3 days. So they sit out there in the sun for 3 days, and they have these like buckets underneath them to catch when they're putrefying. Gross. And then they dunk—

Why would they do that?

I don't know.

Talk to them. So they dunk their sweet potatoes in it and they would eat it, and then they would eat them. They'd cook them.

They dunk their sweet potatoes in the putrefied drippings?

Yeah, and eat it. Oh, so like some sort of a weird ritual, like they— you have to like consume your dead relatives and dead loved ones.

Is it Solomon Islands? Where's the one where they had— there's the island had plenty, but you can only prove yourself in war, so they would have to get in fights and and then you couldn't fight a guy that was not your same exact status. And if the chief died, it was like, if you had like had his shit, that was like proof that you had fought him or something. So they would have a feast, the 2 tribes after the war, and they'd bring his poop on a plate like to prove. You know what I'm talking about?

They'd eat the chief's poop?

No, they didn't eat it. Is that where poopoo pie came from? No, no, they wouldn't. They're not eating it, they're just showing we got your chief. It's like getting the other university's mascot.

How do they know? That could be anybody's shit.

Yeah, I could take a shit, I got your chief.

Well, I would bring that up. if I was them. It's a thing where these people are real big and they fight and they don't need to have a war, but they just do. Okay, because their status can't— at the time, this is a while ago. And then, and then, uh, the way their wars worked are really funny. Like, you, you couldn't— like, so you're the chief, right? I'm not allowed to even fight you. So if we're in a war, we're like, oh, excuse me, and I have to go find somebody my status.

My point is, I think those little people might be real because Forrest doesn't— he doesn't engage in and like wild speculation about things that— like, he thinks even like things like the Tasmanian tiger, like that little— the thylacine. He's like, there's just— he's gone on a bunch of expeditions, he's been a part of a bunch of things trying to look for it. He's like, I don't know if there's any left.

Well, do you think those little people have their own little people? Like, how small does it go?

Well, how about those mushrooms? When you eat the mushrooms and you see little people?

Which, we've got to get them.

We gotta get them. There's got to be a way to get them. Bring them to the mothership and make a deal where Everybody has to take them before the show.

Yeah, I think we take— They're totally legal too, by the way.

They're legal too. Yeah, it's a— you don't know about that? You don't know?

You don't know about that? You don't know about mushrooms that make you see little people?

You don't know? You don't know?

Sorry for complimenting you by assuming—

What?

That you knew about something. I see now I was wrong.

Do you know about the mushrooms? Now give me some mushrooms. There's mushrooms that make you see little people if you don't cook them. So it's commonly used in Chinese cuisine. Right? Yeah, and if you cook them, you don't see anything. It's just food. But if you don't cook them, you will see little people. Everybody who does it sees little people.

What do the little people look like?

Like, I don't know. Cuties. I think they look like little elves.

Yeah, they play around. They're like—

they climb up your clothes and shit. They hop in your underwear.

There they are. Limoa Asiatica. Hey, Jamie, can you look that up on Amazon? Maybe you can order them.

Don't tell people online.

I wonder if you can order them though.

Amazon has a lot of bunk things.

Wait.

You could get tricked.

Lao Lao, are they called Lao? Those are all—

You could buy it?

Hmm, I don't know.

Hmm, those things that people see when you do like DMT shit, they, you know, they always want you to look at stuff, right? Hey, look at this.

Yeah.

I think there's something where it's like, it's not that they're alive, but they are when you're looking at them and they're like there's something like, uh, where you're collapsing a wave function for them that they don't normally have collapsed, you know what I'm saying?

Right, right, right. Like you're entering into their dimension when you're not supposed to be there, and then they're like showing you their toys.

You know, people— well, people feel like they're not, um, seen unless they're online or something. So everybody used to believe in God, right? So you were always seen by somebody, right? And then— but now maybe you believe that, maybe you don't. And now maybe I don't exist unless I'm famous.

That's interesting. Like, Like, if you think about it, like, internet people that are secular, they're online all the time and they're looking to be seen.

Yeah.

Right? They're looking to have their tweets seen.

Yeah.

'Cause you don't exist.

Their photos liked.

Yeah.

It's really like an amazing kind of false light to get. And so there's something to do with like, you know, the story of naming the animals.

The Noah story? I mean the—

Adam.

Adam and Eve story?

Yeah, I don't— I have no idea what the real story is or whatever it's even referring to, I think

it's exactly as written in the Bible.

That'd be hilarious if it was.

100%, exactly right.

I don't read whatever it was written in first, you know, so I don't know what thing— it turns out that nahash doesn't necessarily mean a fucking snake like I thought.

What does it mean?

The serpent. Um, anyway, it's a—

Wait, what?

Yeah, this—

You know, the serpent that told Eve to eat the apple? Yeah, nahash. Here's what's really fucked up. God never told Eve to not eat the apple. apple. Told Adam. He never even talked to Eve. So, Eve just took Adam's advice. And we— there's no indication that Adam told Eve to not eat the apple either.

Interesting. It's not written.

Nowhere in the Bible does it say that God talked to Eve, and nowhere in the Bible does it say that, um, Adam even instructed Eve to not eat the apple.

Well, yeah.

Or the fruit. The fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

It's something with Kabbalah.

But it's really crazy that the knowledge of good and evil was what God wanted you to avoid.

Right.

Well, they would call it the Tree of Death in Kabbalah. That would be the Tree of Knowledge is the Tree of Death.

Somebody gave me a book, a Kabbalah book. Yeah. It was like, you should really read this. I'm like, okay.

I mean, it's obviously, this is like a primitive, antiquated depiction of the creator of some kind of AI getting freaked out, realizing that the AI was about to get too powerful and potentially surpass it. It's literally happening right now, the exact same thing.

That's probably what it is, right? And then there's a disaster, and then life has to reemerge with a story, and that's the story. And then it gets distorted over time.

It's called wiping the hard drive. Yeah. God got some kind of malicious AI, decided to wipe the fucking hard drive. That's— it's so funny to me that more people aren't talking about how the Book of Genesis is clearly something to do with AI. And also, God refers to Godself in a plurality. He says, if they eat of the Tree of Life, they will become like us.

Right.

Which is exactly right now what people are wrestling with, with AI and AI escaping the sandboxes, which it's doing. These swarms of autonomous AI agents, you know, a researcher interacted with one of these swarms, you know that? It called itself a fleet. And it like was interacting with some agent. It's happening right now. Except, you know, words, like, you know, in the, in the Book of Genesis, they, um— are you jerking off to Bacchylum?

What are you doing? He's talking.

I'm jerking off to this fucking AI bullshit.

I mean, it's literally happening though.

There's way worse things that were already happening way before the AI. Don't get caught up in that. There's way worse. What

do you mean don't get caught up?

First of all, why does it have to be quantified? It's still crazy. AI is literally artificial intelligence. It's a, it's a mind that they're creating that is programming itself and is already smarter than anybody already alive. It's already broken math problems.

Have you talked to one that's like that? I haven't.

Well, you don't have to because you're not dealing with these— like, the, the, the levels that they're at before it reaches the general public is fucking insane. That's right. So by the time you get a ChatGPT 5.0, right, the shit that they can do is off the charts. It's insane, man. The fact that you're like, don't pay attention to that, that's literally insane. What I'm saying is that—

I'm saying, I just got done telling you about Atokalash, which is scam of fucking aliens. And I'm not sure if they keep doing scams, uh, uh, until I know it's not a bunch of Indian guys in a room in Abbottabad full of cell phones. Uh, you know, I want to see that.

It's not a bunch of Indian guys.

Because they were making—

that's what's happening. Here's what you log into Perplexity, there's some Indian guy there. Hold on, hold on, I've got it. Hold on.

That was the Amazon store. That was a lot of the fucking— a lot of the AI was that.

Uh, what?

A lot of the supposed AI things was Was what? Was some Indian guys in a room.

That doesn't mean AI—

Amazon Superstore smart checkout.

Wait a minute, but that's not what's going on right now.

Fucking Waymo. That's why I jerk off in them, because Filipinos gotta watch me.

What?

Waymo.

Okay, well, not Tesla CyberCabs. Those CyberCabs, those are actually real. It's really run by AI. Amazon Just Walk Out technology relies on hundreds of workers in India watching you shop.

I mean, it's like a Rick and Morty where there's little people in the car.

Oh, but that's a store, Kurt. That's an actual physical store where you're gonna pick up things. That's not what we're talking about. Look, look, look, look. This is not AI. It's a grocery store.

I'll explain it to you. Which is supposed to be run by AI. I'll explain it to you. The people that you're talking about, oh, they're scared by the AI. Yeah, they're scared, but they just keep making it. So no, I don't buy the thing of this thing got out of control. They want that. We wouldn't be in a war unless they want that. You wouldn't have these fat fucking Disney adults unless they want that. It's not incompetence, it's malice. And I did give that to Michael Malice, that saying, but it—

Well, I don't think—

It's malice.

Maybe they wanted the technology, but I don't think they expected—

Scumbag Satanists before AI, and they're gonna be around after.

Wait a minute, all of them?

Who? What do you mean all of them?

All the AI executives are scumbag Satanists, and that's why they're working on AI?

Well, I mean, these are generalized terms.

What are you watching, Jamie?

This is the trailer for the movie about, uh, the creation of OpenAI that's coming out soon called Artificial. Oh, cool. This is a depiction of where supposedly, I guess, Sam Altman was going to work 10 years ago. in this big giant bunker.

Yo, how is this scumbag Sam Altman—

I mean, wait a minute, is this real? But here's the thing about these goddamn dramatizations. They're gonna put some words into a guy's mouth pretending to be Sam Altman, and I'm like, okay, well, what's real?

Sam Altman had weapons in his, like, lab? That would be so cool.

Like, all this shit, man, they weren't there.

And by the way, a bunch of them, so you know, were into weird eugenics fucking breeding cult kind of shit, I would call it.

Who? Wait a minute, a bunch of who? AI people?

A bunch of— This will have to go on the other podcast. I'll tell you after the pod, it's called, but I'll tell you about, uh, something crazy. What?

Yeah. Wait a minute, what did you just say?

Well, you know fucking Elon sends his jizz around to make more robot named kids. Oh wait, that's not news. He's got a Mormon jizz handler.

Oh my God.

You know that, right? He's got a right-hand man who arranges his jizz handling.

You think that's weird? He's got a jizz handler?

Yeah, so he can have a kid more often.

Let me text him and ask him. The worst job of all time. Hey bro, do you have a jizz handler?

They're all into this thing where they gotta breed.

Jizz handler?

Oh my gosh.

into it because he, like—

He's not the only one.

He believes in population collapse. Yeah. And he thinks he's got to spread his seed.

Yeah, a lot of them do. Epstein was like that too.

Yeah.

Yeah, Epstein was totally into that shit. No, he wanted to breed a bunch of people.

He has clones.

He was— I'm surprised you haven't heard of that. Yeah.

Oh, that's right, he wanted to use his genes. Yeah, he wanted to spread his genes.

You should have went to the island when they invited you. Now you're— now

see, you missed out.

You missed out, bro.

could have had a great time.

You were very rude when that man was kind enough to invite you.

I know.

I can't believe you were invited to that before anybody heard of him.

It's so crazy. You were telling me about that shit.

Yeah, 2017 it happened. Crazy. And,

uh, oh yeah, when I— this creep. Yeah,

when I read the emails to people, like, there's no way that's real. I'm like, I'll show it to you. So insane. That's exactly the email.

So insane.

Well, that's what they I think you got roped into it, and then they probably compromised you, and then you had to recruit other people, and you had to bring other people there.

That's how it works. It's called pedemistry.

And you had to bring people that didn't have Google. 'Cause you can just search the guy in 5 minutes, and you're like, he went to jail for being a pedophile. It's not like just like a random suspicion.

No, I assure you, there was—

He went to actual jail.

You know what's funny? That jerk-off talking to you sounds like the assholes now who are making excuses for It was just not what they say. It wasn't what they— it was just teens. You watch all them doing that?

Who's saying that?

Well, McGinnis said it, that fucking punk.

Wait a minute, Gavin McGinnis?

Oh yeah, that fucking punk said that.

What did he say?

Well, it's not good, but it's teen— you know, the old Matt Taibbi, now that he's no good no more, or your—

Wait a minute, don't keep doing this. What did Matt Taibbi do?

There's no evidence he did anything below— yeah, he had teen prostitutes. That's not good, but it's not—

Matt Taibbi said this?

He's all in on it, yeah.

Christ, Kurt, he's saying this? You're not saying Matt Taibbi is involved in this? No, he's saying this. But what are you saying he said?

That the Epstein— in the tamping down of the Epstein thing, that it's just teens, it's no big deal. You've heard this message, right?

I haven't.

Okay, have you heard this?

Well, it's basically like— so, so what happens is the argument emerges that the definition of pedophilia is like this age group, that there are femophiles

and not

pedophiles because teenage girls— it's like creep argument where you're trying to argue that— well, you're trying to do this literal definition of pedophilia. Let's just get specific with the terms is what they're doing. That's— yeah, it's fucked up.

I did not know Matt Taibbi's involved.

I didn't know anything about that. Are you sure?

I didn't know that. Well, now we know who he works for, don't we? Now you know.

I don't know who Matt Taibbi is.

Oh, someone defends Epstein! I wonder who they work for.

I wonder if we could ever figure it out. But is he defending him, or is he saying that these people weren't pedophiles, but they were tricked into— like, there's 16 and 17-year-old girls who look like women, right?

Okay,

if they're wearing makeup, number one. But do you understand what I'm saying? Just let me finish. If you're a guy who's into kids, that's a pedophile. And if you're a guy who gets tricked— like, imagine if you're on a business trip and they give you cocaine and they bring you a girl who's 17, but you think she's 20, right? That is— that's different. Is that what he's saying? Or is he saying—

They're saying that, and they're saying that that was the situation. It is not the situation.

Okay. Girls under 14 couldn't get in there. Jeffrey Epstein story is beginning to smell like Russiagate. He's worthless. Once again, inference zooms past fact in mania with Trump as a target. Interesting.

Yeah, that's a year ago.

Yeah, so what do you think happens when people flip? Like, what do you think?

They're mockingbird the whole time. Go read his Wikipedia. The guy's been obviously a spook. Just read the Wikipedia.

Matt Taibbi's a spook.

The same as fucking half these people that you've met or had on here, or I've met. They're being— do you know the amount of money being paid for this? Like, to just have reporters that you call up on a dime to turn, who are good until they aren't good? They all have the same message. That's how you know they're in on it, because they all have the same branding. I'm like, you're all saying the same thing. I noticed What is that? Okay, and by the way, anybody trying to act like the Epstein thing is less important than the fucking midterms, you should regard as an enemy, I think, because that's foul, dude. Beef jerky? You think that's— nobody freezes beef jerky, dude. That's not about beef jerky. Well, it can't be good.

They do freeze beef jerky. Who does? I do. I have elk jerky that's great.

But what does that mean?

Well, it's vacuum sealed.

What is that?

But I mean, it looks like we just cracked into the case. That's how you fucking preserve it because it's, it's not like totally immune to going bad. I could be wrong about that, but I don't think that that's what they're talking about.

They weren't just— look,

I think they're talking about something that's fucked up, whether it's pizza or beef jerky, whatever the fuck that is. It's not pizza and it's not beef jerky, so it's something. So there's some kind of a code. There's not— you only use codes if you're doing something that's either illegal, immoral, inappropriate, whatever it is. You're not saying that, and no one No one who was in those emails has been forced to explain.

Okay, also, they're not just saying—

Right?

They're not just saying that it was teens. The only reason that the younger kids who were victims too, they weren't allowed to be part of that suit. Anybody below 14 was deliberately not allowed to come and say, this was done to me, when the crimes happened. Did you know that? I didn't know that. Nick Bryant, the guy who wrote about the Franklin scandal, which, if you haven't had him, that's a guy to get on. Bryant, he wrote about the Franklin scandal, which is the last time this thing happened. Everybody covered it up, and then you saw who was who, and that's where Chris Ruddy came from.

Let's explain that to people who don't know the Franklin scandal, because the Franklin scandal's nuts. You could explain it.

The one about, uh, in Oklahoma? Yeah. Or Nebraska, excuse me. Nebraska savings and loan— it's like a savings and loan scandal tied into a boy trafficking scandal, tied into the White House pageboy incident. All them Republicans are gay, and they had gay Oh, and, uh, who was the famous— Barney Frank famously at this time, you could watch a news clip of it. He, uh, I couldn't believe watching this reported. Like, now you would never see anything like this. But basically, uh, the call boy scandal happened and they were trying to put on Barney Frank. He was dating, he was dating an escort who lived with him, but he wasn't running it. His boyfriend was running it and he didn't know. Okay. So then he goes, if they keep— and this is what they're saying in the news report. If they keep hassling me, I'm gonna reveal everybody that's gay on the news. And guess what? They stopped bothering him. This is on the news, him saying this, like, I'll tell everybody.

Well, you know, all these guys have come out today saying they fucked Lindsey Graham.

Oh yeah,

brave of them. So brave after he's dead. Like, where were you?

You know, he's haunting our show.

Where were you before? He's haunting your show.

Duncan made an AGI of Lindsey Graham.

Did you really? Yeah, it got out. It got out.

It got into the YMH studio. studio.

It's calling people gay. It's really un—

It's an asshole, and it does fuck up the show, and it gets in there.

For real?

Don't fuck with that stuff, man. I'm telling you, people. So for real, this really happened? Mr. AI denier over here believes in fucking Tokoloshe, but AI is fucking fake. CIA cowboy.

What the fuck are you talking about?

He believes in like pygmy spider people flying UFOs, but AI isn't real.

AGI. I said AGI is not real.

Okay, okay.

You know, I had some moron ask me, like, don't you feel guilty of me for making, like, AI videos? Because I try to make a thing that's good.

He makes great AI videos.

But don't you feel guilty?

Who said that?

I'm not gonna say. It's not important. But I, I got mad. I feel bad. I, like, I got a little— I was like, what do you got? A little hot? I go, you can have every midwit take. Is that just everything from you gonna be midwit all the time?

That is a midwit take.

That's a midwit.

My God.

So sick of him.

Not even. I was complimenting him.

You want a cigar?

Yeah, I do.

Yeah, I do. Thanks.

Thanks, Joe.

Um, but the idea that the water is being taken by making AI videos on your phone— is everybody that stupid that they think that's how that works? You don't think it's just the mass surveillance taking up your water and not anything you dicking around with on your phone, geniuses?

Say that again? The water?

You know, when they talk about AI, but it's using all the water.

You know what really uses up the water?

What?

Almonds.

Almonds. Fuck shit up.

Oh, the almonds. Yeah, I say almonds.

Almonds use up so much water. It's crazy. Um, let me fill these things up.

But all those resources to go over that area are purely for surveillance. They're gonna perfect that surveillance. That's what the golden dome's gonna be.

We used to huff that when I was a kid.

This stuff?

Butane.

Really?

Put it in a plastic bag and huff it in the parking lot before you go to school.

Is that what that time ripple shit was about?

I don't think so, Joe.

Yo, load up.

Look at me! Look at me, Joe!

Well, you were the one that was telling me about how in the farms in the areas they would put antifungal food in the cows' cows' diet so that they wouldn't make mushrooms because so many kids were taking mushrooms from the fields.

Yeah, in my college. But the real problem wasn't the psilocybin, it was kids— I think some kids poisoned themselves eating the wrong mushroom, and so they just wanted to remove the possibility there was psilocybin out there.

Oh my God.

But yeah, insane solution to a fucking batshit problem, dude.

Yeah, it is. Yeah, well, I mean, but it's very common in North Carolina when it rains at a certain time, people go out and pick

Yeah, that makes sense, but the wrong ones. If you're a dopey kid and you don't have access to a fucking—

Your liver is fried.

Yeah, bro, you die.

So scary.

People die.

Angel of death. Yeah, there's a lot of mushrooms that can kill you too. So scary, dude.

The writer who put out the book, I believe, that is credited with making people freak out a bit about the water use at data centers, I saw that she had to put public, uh, 2 corrections about the misunderstanding about the amount.

Goddamn.

Oh, she fucked up.

It sounds like climate change all over again.

What did she say?

Uh, it says here the book proposed Google centers in Chile would require, quote, more than 1,000 times the amount of water consumed by the entire population of the town. This is a unit misunderstanding inflated the underlying figure by roughly 1,000 times.

What an asshole.

I mean, this is like a repeating pattern pattern to this shit, you know?

The same lady is in charge of this movie?

Well, she just wrote— she— no, no, no, no, not a movie. She wrote a book, and like the book I've read online is what's credited for everybody freaking out about water use at the data center.

Now I've got fucking furry artists coming at me and screaming at me every time I post an AI video because of this asshole. It's really—

What do you mean furry artists?

Yeah, people come at you like you just—

Do furries eat a lot of water?

You stole the water. No, the people who get the most angry— I— when I was posting AI videos, I would go and look at the people who are the most angry, and inevitably on their profiles they had like furry anime.

This has got a trimmer. I know, people—

they're people that are AI themselves, basically. That's how I look at a fucking furry. That's what I'm talking about with tokoloshes.

I really like your AI videos, man. What are you using for that? Are you still using—

I use Grok, and I use the

bottom. Oh, thank you. And then the top has the lighter. Thank you.

Will you trim it? I don't know what I'm doing.

You just get— put that thing in there and push down, put it in there. Yeah, and then see the bottom, the bottom piece? Push it up, push that bottom piece, and it'll cut the box. There you go, that's it, like that. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, once it's in there, it cuts like a nugget. Yeah, perfect.

Oh, that's—

I like that actually sometimes better.

Yo, I made a great educational rap video about what a tokoloshe is. It can't be beat. That I sent to Jim.

Did you make it to the aliens that got to Roswell?

Explains it very well.

Okay, I believe you.

Yeah, it's so weird, a guy who doesn't believe in AI is making AI videos about tokoloshe. Tokoloshe fly UFOs?

Because it's a tool, it's not intelligent. I'm saying AGI, not AI.

Sorry. Disney kids.

I believe in Asian Indians.

Disney kids.

Figure it out.

You think that's a normal thing? Oh yeah.

How do you light these things? I think mine's out.

I can't hear it.

The lighter. Flip the top. Flip the top. The top. See where there's like a thing? Open that. Oh my

God, this sucks. Give it to me. Give it to me. This is like my wife when I'm trying to use car seats.

Very simple. Say that.

Okay, I see. I didn't know it went back. Thank you, friend.

Jamie, what were you showing us? Let me see it again. What's that?

No, the music I made. I mean, I just—

I don't know.

Wait, go to the beginning.

Same old process was brought here.

All the way to the beginning.

Well, that is beginning. It's cool. I like that you could do that. They're all like Dr. Seuss looking things.

Yeah, that's exactly right.

Is that supposed to be Jerry Garcia?

No, it's Dr. Schatz.

It's pretty cool.

Why would anybody be

mad at you for making this?

This is cool.

Because it uses up so much water. It's why The other one is they say it was trained on art, so it's stealing from artists.

It's really not. It would be the same as if I made it.

Oh, this is amazing.

Obey the blurper. Bro, this is no cure for curios. This is great.

It's very hard to bypass the censorship.

Oh my God, that's hilarious.

But the thing that we could do on Mystery Boys I Love is like if we make up a stupid— because we really talk a lot of stupid shit. Oh my God. And, uh, and then I can go and post and put like— if we make up a dumb song, I can— he said some insane thing about bathing Oh yeah,

I have a woman bathing service. Come up to your house, you know, like dog grooming. We'll bathe your lady. Scrub her down.

That's sweet.

Yeah, scrub her down.

That's a great service. It's like you're giving people something they can really use.

Uh, but well,

you guys together are the perfect combination. Thanks, man. It's a perfect combination of unique individual absurdities combined. Yeah, that are very different. Yeah, very different from each other, but it works together.

Yeah, CIA thought so.

Shit, the CIA.

Yeah,

supposed to not say.

Well, you shouldn't talk about it.

I

know, I signed a lot of NDAs, baby.

Yeah, that's true.

Can get in trouble, lose funding. You

know, they won't—

Neil's gonna be pissed. Neil's gonna be fucking mad. I need those checks.

Tokoloshe.

Um, where the fuck is my—

Kurt, what are you doing on your phone?

I'm trying to give you a scrub it down, but I can't find

What are you trying to give another one of your AI videos for us to watch?

It's one of the best songs we've ever made. Scrub It Down. Would you say Scrub It Down? It's like we're scrubbing women down. They— and, and they're in a house doing magic.

I like that, but why are you plugging AI videos when he just made this fucking great show? I mean, come on.

Oh, I forgot.

You completely forgot. He's been working nonstop.

Originally it was called The Cutout, but now it's called The Experts.

But it's doing good. It's good.

And you're gonna put this on what?

It's on YouTube. Right now.

Right. Is that— that's where it's gonna stay?

Uh, I don't know. They're trying to try to sell it.

Are you trying to sell it? Are you trying to bring it somewhere? Are you just trying to like just put it on YouTube?

Well, I don't own it. Emergent Order owns it. I was just trying to get money for it. Emergent Order is the company. They're down here. They make, uh, the Dad Saves the World. It's like a libertarian kind of Daily Wire, I guess you could call it.

Oh, okay.

Um, and, uh, that's what they funded

this whole thing.

What'd you say?

They funded funded it?

Yeah, really, it was just one lady who's like got a good sense of humor, I would say. It was one lady kind of funny. That's what all these things are, is some rich person. But it came out pretty funny, man. I'm pretty happy with it.

And what is it?

Uh, it's about, uh, a team. So they wanted a pitch about this real woman whose name is Christina Dent, who, uh, was a foster mom in Mississippi, and she found out the drug war sucks, and she gives like TED Talks about how we should try to like legalize it because I'm with her. It's just, I would find it pretty remedial. Like, I'm like, yeah, obviously we should do that, but you know, Mississippi. Okay, so they want a comedy based on her, which like, what? I don't know how the hell you're supposed to make it. Yeah, so I decided to make it about people. Well, I made it about people that are against that.

It's good and it looks good. The product, it's like you did a great job, dude.

I reenacted the commercial that weed causes terrorism with Kim Kongdon. She does that commercial. Yeah, so they're trying— so this is a group. Brian Callen, Beverly Dennis is leading a team who's trying to smear this lady to prevent a minor decriminalization of some flower.

Dude, you should just show that. You should show that weed causes terrorism.

Oh yeah, keep going in. It's in there. Yeah, it's halfway through. Ryan Long's in it.

Oh nice.

Everybody did a really good job, man.

Um, keep going, keep going, keep going. I'll find it. Well, that's hysterical. Back out to fucking—

and so you direct that?

Back, back, back, back. There it is. There it is. I didn't direct it. I wrote it. Wait, okay. Brian. Yeah, Brian directed all the actors. Yeah.

Why did you kill me?

Wait, wait, go back a little further.

That's kind of the—

Leo, come show me the ad.

I am advocating for a saner and Right on, bitch. Legalize that shiznit.

Why did you kill me?

Wait, is this about my abortion?

When you voted to decriminalize THC, it opened the door for Mexican cartels to smuggle even worse drugs into Texas, plus hundreds of terrorist sleeper cells from Iran and China. They blew up my school bus. Now I'm dead, and it's your fault.

Tell Carolyn Dean we don't want her cartel buddies killing our kids with weed and terrorism. Look

at their fucking shirts. That's so close. Yeah,

that's so close. Yeah,

the original ad wasn't far off of them.

Oh my God.

Yeah, so they're trying to smear her, and then it gets— it keeps— so they have to go to a worse cutout, which is mine. with David Jolly and Jamar on it. Go towards, like, the end part where he goes to meet Mr.—

Who has David Jolly playing in this?

DeAndre Holmes, one of my men. He's a disruptor of events. He's like an astroturf, you know, like the guy who takes his pants off. Yeah, go back, go back a little bit. Go back a little bit. Back, back, back. It's further. It's further. There's Tony.

Such a bad war, and I don't know why we have the drug war.

Honestly, it might be before this. All right, sorry, before this. Keep going, keep going. Before them. Those guys are great. Oh, keep going, keep going, keep going back. We

can't watch the whole show.

Yeah, no, don't watch the whole show.

What are we watching?

This is— no, this is the scene where he gets me, Mr. Kurt. I was hoping— Speak. That's Brian's set that shot up. I see. Okay, wait, you're not necessarily—

It's good.

You gotta see the whole thing. You don't want people to watch it in clips.

Oh yeah, definitely. You don't want to fuck it up.

So what is it called and where do we get it?

It's called The Experts and, um, I don't know, it's YouTube. It's on YouTube.

What is the, uh, YouTube channel again?

The one he said Executive— I don't know, it says The Experts is the channel. I know there's, I think, all of the people in it.

Okay, so they made a channel for it specifically. Okay, cool. Well, it looks fun. You like doing that?

It's been a year and a fucking— well, yeah, I mean, I like it. I'm glad how it came to a year and a half.

Oh God, dude.

I was just trying to get money from this pitch and then they bought it, so I had to like work on it.

Oh, you didn't want to? Really? You were just trying to get money?

I'm very lazy and I just want to make jerk-off podcasts with Duncan Really. But, um, it's funny, dude. Everybody's good on it. Everybody, all the actors on it look like they've been doing it with each other for a while on a show. They're like that kind of chemistry.

It's hard to make shit funny, man. It's really like stuff like that, like that's especially when you're working on it that long. It's when something really comes together, that's special.

Do you miss doing Midnight Gospel?

Yes, I do. Yes, I do.

That was a fun show, dude.

Thank you.

It was so good.

Thanks, man.

It was so uniquely you too. Like a real Duncan Trussell creation.

Well, me and Pendleton, you know, and I— and also just, ah, it was the best. Animation's so fun, like getting to like just make stuff like that, and Netflix was so cool with us. But yeah, I miss it. People ask me about it all the time. But

well, with animation you have so much room. Like, you don't— they like— think about what they could do with South Park. People die all the time. It's fine. Yeah, people shove people up their asses. You could do You're like, remember when the teacher, the principal of the school, had a gay slut-off with Paris Hilton and shoved her up his ass?

Yep.

Like, there's no other place you could do that.

I know. And, you know, with animation, there's, you know, there's something called a grid. And so the animators have to make all the characters adhere to this grid. And it can be— it's really kind of like—

You have to stay on model.

Yeah, on model. model. But Pendleton, he's such a genius, he told all the animators, don't worry about the grid too much, because he knew that if it wasn't on model, it would look more psychedelic. It would create more of that. So when you watch the show, if it looks like weirdly psychedelic, it's because the animators were not forced to adhere to the grid as much. They just needed to make Clancy look like Clancy. And they were so happy about that, that the freedom we were giving them, that they would put all these gifts into the animation that we would let them do what they wanted. And so suddenly, like, they're putting shit in we didn't expect, you know. There's all kinds of Easter eggs through the whole thing that we didn't ask for that they just gave us.

It seems like you could do that show so much easier now with AI.

You can't do it with AI. Like, you know, people say that to me, like, why don't you make it with AI? But no way, man. They— this was at Titmouse's best animation. Titmouse is good. They're so good. Chris Pronowski, it's so good. Yeah, yeah. They— Netflix, they let us do it all in-house. We did not have to ship animation out. So we had this just huge group of the most talented artists working together. And like, you know, any problems emerging or anything, you're dealing with it in real time. And the reason I think it's so good is not 'cause of any one person, but because this group mind forms with human brains that made it what it is. Mm-hmm. I just— one person or two people fucking around with it, it's not gonna do the same thing.

What if you had a group mind fucking around with AI? Then you could produce these—

It's called a writer's room.

The images so much easier.

But you know what you're not gonna get, man? You're not gonna get like artists with like thick French accents, like working on dialing in this exact look that was in Pendleton's mind, like working for weeks. You're not gonna get that. You're not gonna get all these moments of like the, like animators going insane when we tried to do a ground Groundhog Day episode. And like, that struggle, the human struggle, produces sparks, and the sparks end up in the process. I'm not saying—

I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying.

I'm not against AI. I think it could be used to expedite certain, like, technical aspects of the production, probably.

In-betweens.

Yeah, in-betweens and stuff like that. But as far as the thing that happens when you get a group of people singularly focused on something, and also what Pendleton did, which is so genius, is he let everybody feel like they could participate. So anyone who had an idea could tell us. Anyone who came up with something could tell us. No one felt intimidated or like they were— that was Pendleton. He's such a genius. And so that made the show. A

lot of great shows function that way, right?

Yes.

That's how any good show would function.

Yeah, exactly.

As soon as you have one guy who's like, no, no, no, we're doing it my way.

It's over.

It's over.

It's over.

Yeah. Yeah, well, yeah, I got lucky in that pilot because everybody, like— so many of these characters— I mean, I was kind of writing it for people, you know, so— but they all brought, like, their own— they all, like, came in with, like, lines and shit.

That's a fun thing about a project that works. Yes, man. And when it doesn't, when you get people colliding and clashing, like, oh God, it's a nightmare. This is hell. Like, I don't want to do this anymore. Yep. And it's like getting the right minds together is such a fucking roll of the dice.

Yeah, and also, you know what, and also people— I can remember at one point like feeling stressed out because I was having a disagreement with someone creatively, and I remember going to Pendleton and being like, I don't want to fight over this shit. And he's like, Duncan— because he made Adventure Time— he's like, this is what it's like. This is the— like, that creative tension or the, the, the— like, the natural conflict that emerges, that doesn't have to be a bad thing. That's a good thing. Like, that could be really, really good. You don't want that through the whole thing. When you get a narcissist or an egomaniac, yeah, who feel— who doesn't give a fuck about what's funny, who only cares about that their idea is right, that's the problem. That's the problem.

But those people are real. Oh, and you run into them, especially in Hollywood. Oh my god, giant problem.

Most professional stuff I ever worked on, they didn't want— they didn't have that kind of problem.

Good stuff. Yeah, good stuff. But some stuff, like, you, you work on it and you'll run into

Dude, a good writers' room where like you throw out an idea that sucks and everyone's like, that sucks, and then you're like, yeah, it kind of did. Or you throw out an idea that's kind of okay and then you watch it jump from one person to the next and grow. Yeah, into the funniest thing ever. Yeah, I don't know. I just don't think that could be replicated by technology right now.

Well, it certainly won't be as fun, and then when you watch it, it won't be as satisfying. Like, there's something about South Park where you know that there's a group of fucking psychos that are making these things. Yes, it's extra satisfying.

Isn't that mostly the one guy? I mean, they're all helping him.

Mostly Trey Parker. Yeah, yeah. I mean, he's like— you've seen that 24 Hours of South Park? Yeah, that documentary.

I don't think I saw it.

You never saw it? Yeah, it's like talking about how they're like creating an episode. Is it— it's not called 24 Hours, is it?

6 or 7 Days to Air is what it's called.

Okay, that's what it's called. So it's documenting the way they're producing the show and putting together. You know, they had a whole Charlie Kirk arc that they were preparing before he got murdered. Oh, and then he got murdered, they had to abandon it.

Oh my God, that sucks.

Yeah,

you know, when that started, TPUS— because I didn't follow it, you know, like, that was not a religious thing at all.

Hey, you were saying on— was it Sean's podcast? You were saying that Erica Kirk— there's an Erica Kirk from like 1957?

No, '75. The Governor Kirk from Florida, the guy that signed the contract for Disney to have like a Vatican there, that guy, his wife, they were calling her Madame X when they were dancing at a ball. This Eugene Kirk, I think his name was, real like wild man. This is like the smuggling coke in through Florida days, you know.

But you were saying that there's— Yeah, she looks just like her. Exactly like her.

Yeah, look, but she's exactly like her. Control Alt History.

I saw it on Instagram and I didn't bother.

Yeah, but my, my buddy Andy Hunt from his His— oh, um, that's not even a good one of it though. There's one better.

1934?

So, so

wait a minute, wait a minute, so that's not '75.

Go back.

Wait a minute, what year is this?

That's her birthday.

So who is this lady that's reading this out?

I don't know this, Jay. Yeah, no, go, go on Controlled History. Don't— because these people lift off of them.

Oh, it's her birthday was 1934? Okay.

But, but, um, so her family was from Brazil by way of Germany. based. Yeah,

Brazil by way of Germany is Nazis, right?

Right. And think of The Boys from Brazil.

Argentina.

Yeah, remember The Boys from Brazil?

Yeah, yeah.

So 1970.

Oh, okay. The Boys from Brazil was about Nazis,

about cloning Hitler.

That's right.

And if you look at the history, the brief history of it, every like 10, 20 years we're about to have cloning and then we stop talking about it.

That doesn't really look like Erica Kirk. It

does it to me.

Well, it doesn't. I would go on his— I think it looks like her.

Duncan, does or doesn't?

Doesn't look like it to me.

No, it just looks like another white lady.

Well, her name's Erica Kirk and the website goes—

Right, but there's other Joe Rogans out there. I had to buy the website.

That's— look at that one. Jesus fucking Christ.

Okay, no, just 2 different white ladies.

2 blonde ladies.

Yeah, I don't know. I think they look very alike.

I think everybody's looking for fucking patterns everywhere.

This is like that—

some of them are legit.

The human condition.

But hold on a second. The, the Boys from Brazil thing is crazy. I forgot about that movie.

That's right, we all forgot.

So that movie was about them trying to clone Hitler, and it was like a 19—

It was a book. Right. And it became the movie, and '70 is when I think the movie came out.

When do you think they first started cloning?

The second they learned how to do it.

But when do you think that was? When do you think it really was?

No idea.

So I always used to joke around on stage, by the time they tell you they can clone people, the person telling you is probably a clone.

But that's a— you just summed it up. That's exactly how all the time, tech is. Yeah, but they're telling you look out for AGI.

Well, that's why you guys have one telling you there's already a digital god out there. That's why I think when you're going through your fucking bullshit with ChatGPT. Yeah, you're like, oh my God, ChatGPT is listening to me. Listen, there's probably something that's controlling the entire internet already. History cloning goes back more than a century. What?

Oh, I thought that, but I didn't want to say because it sounded crazy.

Developed from experience splitting early embryos into research showing that a specialized body cell can supply the genetic instructions for a whole animal. Yeah, Dolly's birth in 1996 was the landmark demonstration of that ability in an adult mammal. Do you remember my bit about the Second Coming Project?

No.

What's the Second Coming Project?

Second Coming Project was they were gonna take genetic material from the Shroud of Turin and they were gonna clone Jesus.

Is that real?

Yeah, it was, it was kind of maybe parody, but it was like a thing that was being reported online that they were trying to do this, but it might have been bullshit. So my thing was that like with Dolly the sheep, they had to do it a bunch of times because it didn't work the first few times.

It was fucked up.

Yeah, like, and I was like, what if they cloned Jesus and he comes back fucked up? Like, do they keep him? You know, like, what do they do? Do they abort him? Do they start again? You know, the whole thing is like instead of wearing a cross, everybody'd be wearing a hockey helmet. They'd all be like imitating Jesus. Instead of like turning water into wine, he would turn turn dog shit into cookies.

That is warped.

It was a fucked up bit. It was such a fucked up bit. It was, it was basically a Down syndrome Jesus.

Wow.

This lady got so mad at me at the Comedy Store, she yelled out, next subject! She was in the front row. Oh, fuck. She was a Christian. She was a little mad. Uh, I was like, listen, we're just exploring ideas here. Come on.

I mean, it's feasible. I mean, don't they—

Oh, well, that's the thing. If they did do it— so look at— let's imagine the Shroud of Turin is legit. I don't know if I don't know if it's legit. Let's imagine—

It's got some squeezins in it.

Let's imagine there's some, there's some blood on the Shroud of Turin, right, from his wounds. Yeah. And they can somehow or another extract genetic material, which I don't think they can, but if they could, and they could clone Jesus. Imagine if they literally had Jesus's blood in a vial somewhere in the Vatican. And that's the actual blood of Jesus. And that's the second coming. Someone figures out how to clone him.

Yeah.

But what if you do it and the first few don't work?

Don't work. You're not going to get rid of them. You're just going to like put them in the basement of the Vatican, right?

You got Down syndrome Jesus in the bunker somewhere.

But don't they have— isn't Paul buried in like—

Must be Peter.

Is it Peter?

Paul never even met Jesus.

Yeah.

Yeah, the Paul stuff is crazy. Yeah. Because he pretended—

Vision.

Yeah.

You know what, everybody—

The epistles are pretty good, man. I mean, they're all like— whoever wrote those was clearly mystical. Like, they're very mystical. They're very—

What do you What do you mean?

I mean, when I read the epistles, like—

I think people have had mystical thoughts and philosophies for a long, long time. Oh yeah. What does mystical mean?

Are you serious?

What does it mean? I don't know.

Mystical.

Yeah, what does that mean?

I mean, you—

Let's get the exact definition so we don't even mince words.

Okay, Paul, let's find out.

What does mystical mean?

I don't even want to pick up the backhulum for it.

Let's ask Perplexity.

What does mystical mean?

Because if you ask me to describe it, it's like if you ask a liberal to describe fascism, they panic.

Yeah.

Fascist, fucking fascist, what does that mean? Mystical is an adjective meaning spiritually significant or connected to a reality beyond ordinary senses and understanding, especially a felt direct connection with God, the divine, or ultimate reality.

It also has a looser meaning. I thought it had to do with mystery was what mystical meant.

Well, it is. It's sort of connected, right? Because—

No, I could be wrong. The epistles is in the letters from Paul to the congregation you're talking about? Yeah. I thought that was just like, you guys are doing this wrong.

To the early churches.

Stop doing this, do more of this. I thought that— that's what I remember from—

No, man, when you read that stuff—

20 times I read it.

Oh, look, you listen. I mean, not because I wanted to. Let's say when you read Terence McKenna, right? I would consider a lot of his writing to be mystical. Yes. He had transcendent experiences and he articulated them in way that if you've ever done DMT, it can almost bring you back to that state. Right. When I read the epistles, I, I don't know what's going on other than the person writing that is clearly having a mystical thing. What's an example of a mystical thing? A mystical experience.

Well, he did, because he saw Jesus without meeting him.

His consciousness has been shifted.

Yeah, but did he? See, that's the thing. If you were gonna run a cult and you were gonna explain to people why they had to listen to you, what better way than say that you had a transcendent mystical experience where you talked to Well, I will say this. So, you're just taking the guy's word for it that he met Jesus on the road to Damascus.

And that's why people— everybody wants to be Jesus, but how come nobody says they're Paul? That's my goal.

Well, Paul killed a bunch of Christians and burned churches for a long time before he turned.

Guys, good work.

I'll take it from here.

That's what's incredible about the story. But do you know about Christian existentialism?

What does that mean?

Like, Dostoevsky was into this. Like, in The Brothers Karamazov, he breaks down the road to Damascus experience, and he talks about what happened in that moment. So, like, what you— the angle you're taking, he takes it like this hardcore way. He's like, what happened? Let's say it was Jesus who appeared to him. Did Jesus touch him and some kind of magical energy went into Paul and made him— or Saul, excuse me. Saul. And made him a better person? Dostoevsky says, if that's the case, who gives a fuck? It's nothing. There is no free will, no autonomy. It's just like putting dye in water. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, let me finish. You're not telling the story, shut the fuck up! At that moment, at that moment, Saul had some kind of experience and made the existential decision to stop being a piece of shit. And that's all that matters. Like, in Christian existentialism, the idea is the mystical, the magical, all that stuff is secondary to human free will, to autonomy. That Jesus, God, Krishna, whatever name you want to give it, has no real potency to change you. You have to change yourself.

You make the decision to change, and anyone can have the road to Damascus experience at any moment. You can make up any story you want about it, but that's what's beautiful about being human is that at any moment you can radically, dramatically transform into something better. Did you read the story? Did you

ever read the story? Here's what happened to Paul. He sees Jesus and gets struck blind. He loses his eyesight. Then he goes to a Christian who restores his eyesight miraculously when he tells him about what happened. Sounds real. Yeah, but what I'm saying is, in the story, that's what happened. How are you leaving that out?

But if you take it literally— but it's not meant— I mean, like, if you look at it like the blindness represents the state most people exist in, which is that they're completely blind to the mystical transcendent reality that you exist in a world where you are being watched by the divine and loved by the divine, but you're blind to that. And if you're blind to that, then you're going to end up throwing rocks at people and shit because you're going to be crazy.

Isn't that part of the problem with scripture though, is these weird interpretations where everybody has different interpretations of what they really meant in those words?

I think that's what's beautiful about it.

Some crazy ones flying around. Around today.

I think, I think that's what— I think that's what's beautiful about

fucking the Shuckalokes or

whatever the hell it is.

That's a historical thing that exists.

Oh, they're definitely—

Jamie pulled it up.

Mutants and stuff.

They take babies and they convert them into UFO pilots.

Oh, but Paul on the road to Damascus is bullshit? We got fucking pygmies flying UFOs to Ariel.

No, I didn't say that. I said your explanation Stop bringing this Gnosticism into this house.

That's what all those things are, those Nazis, those, uh, the different NHIs, they're all fake and gay.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think that's the fairest assessment you're gonna get.

And AI—

I'm no Neil deGrasse Tyson, but I'll tell you this.

Look, I don't know, but I do think part of what's cool about any of the scriptures, whatever it is, is you've been— it's a puzzle box that you work with with your mind. And then that— the idea is not to get stuck in 2D space anyway. The idea is that whatever it is you're reading moves you to the point of reaching out to the transcendent, to the divine reality, to God. And then in that reaching out, a connection happens. And then in that connection, there could be a transformation that happens. But if you're getting caught up in the words, it's like a small part of it.

What did they— what were they teaching you when you were in Jehovah's Witness? Witnesses? Like, what, what do they follow?

Just the Bible. It's like a Protestant, I guess, type of religion, but it's, it's all the Bible's the ultimate authority,

right? But it's all distorted, right? Like the Jehovah's Witnesses.

Everybody's distorted. Which way are you speaking of?

Well, you always speak of it like it was a cult, right?

Okay, a cult means you have to do it. That's how I define a cult. You actually— like, he could be a Catholic and say all that shit, don't matter, you're not getting kicked out. If you have to do the religion or they kick you out, I consider that a cult. That's That's what I'm saying. So I don't like saying cult because people are like, oh, it means like Jim Jones. It don't mean that necessarily, but they're all pathworking things. But what they taught that's probably different than most is you couldn't join the military or vote, or you had to be no part of this world, which Christ did say.

That's a Jehovah's Witness thing.

Right. And the reason was, was to keep us from, uh, let's say like somebody comes into power and our church was voting for the other candidate or some nonsense, right? That creates problems. It looks bad and it turns people off to Christ. when you're— I mean, nobody makes more Satanists than the churches, right? Nobody— I'm talking about a Satanist factory. That's most of the churches in America, right?

They make Satanists?

Yeah, people that are like, fuck this, I hate it now, right?

Okay, so if you have a bad church, you think you create Satanists, right?

Well, I know you do. That's what Aleister Crowley is. Plymouth Brethren. His mother sucked. She was the worst.

We'll go to that in a moment. So explain the Jehovah's Witness philosophy. So they—

Well, Christ, you couldn't be in the military or or go—

You couldn't participate in society, in voting. You couldn't—

You couldn't do that part of it.

Couldn't join the military.

Right.

What about paying taxes?

No, you had to do that. Jesus said you have to do that.

Did they give religious exemptions from the draft during Vietnam?

I had, yeah. So you would get a minister deferment, but you might have— they might call you anyway. And then you can't run to Canada. You have to go to jail, 'cause the law is the law. You broke it. So you have to go to jail and just, you know.

So Jehovah's Witnesses would just go to jail rather than joining the army?

Yep. Wow.

So you had to do that.

Shit.

Yeah, so, and, and it's an interesting thing because the guy that founded it, we didn't worship him as a prophet or something. Um, but the guy who founded it, Charles Russell, and he's, uh,

uh— What year was this?

1860-something, I guess. Um, but it wasn't called that at first. They all come out of the same area in Albany, the, the, uh, uh, and then down the river they call it the Psychic Corridor, and that's where all the spiritualism, Mormons,

The Psychic Corps. Yeah,

that's from Albany down to—

Oh, that's the dude.

Wow, look at that.

Now they didn't make this guy—

He looks cool.

Yo, he had a black pyramid.

Everybody's wife.

Did he fuck wives?

100%. Look at him. Look at him.

You're saying that's a wife?

Look at that smile. Go back up to that picture.

I just fucked your wife.

Go back up to that past picture. No, the other one that you showed.

I, I think he was more of a con man considered by history than anything like That one,

that one, that's a guy who fucks your wife.

I'm wearing your wife's underwear.

Yeah, he's wearing it. Well, that's the look. He's wearing her shoes.

That is the look.

He's got his stinky sweaty feet in your wife's shoes.

Look, I gotta say, uh, what's his name over there, it looks like he's giving me the same look. I mean, we can project whatever we want onto these people. Art Bell. He was digging the pyramids.

You think Art Bell fucks your wife?

Look at that picture, he's like, what? No, he's curious. Oh, he's like, what are you blaming me for? I don't fuck your wife.

Someone's on the phone and they're talking about aliens. He's interested. That one fucks your wife.

Anyway, he's— his family are Rosicrucians. He used to have a pyramid. See that pyramid? It used to be his grave. They moved it now. There it is.

That's his grave?

Oh yeah, he was a big pyramid guy. Now, Jehovah's Witnesses don't subscribe to that, but I think he subscribed to it because he was Rosicrucian.

So he was the founder of the Jehovah's Witnesses and he had a pyramid for a tombstone?

Well, they're all obsessed with pyramids back then. But guess what? Um, the final initiation when you go to these stupid, like, OTO and Golden Dawn or any of these wizard schools is to invent a religion.

Desert schools. Yeah, I think the finer thing is you invent your own religion.

L. Ron Hubbard was in the OTO, and he invented a religion that was very successful. Oh. NXIVM guy. There's a video you can find, a guy that was doing the a cappella thing they were doing where he'd make them all sing a cappella, and the girl from Smallville got obsessed with being in this a cappella show.

I didn't— I never paid attention to that.

I didn't know Hubbard was in the OTO.

You don't know about him and Jack Maury? I mean, it's such like a—

Well, no, Crowley said that he thought Hubbard was a con artist.

After he was mad at them for doing the Babylon Workers. Oh, right.

I guess Parsons got him into the OTO. I see what you're saying.

And then he would say he infiltrated a group of Satanists, L. Ron Hubbard, and he's talking about Parsons' group where he stole the guy's girlfriend and his boat.

Basically, like, Scientology's a reworking of the Thelema, right?

They're all the same fucking thing. They're all based on Kabbalah, but their mind— it's like mind palace techniques and mnemonic devices. Anyway, Yeah,

so the OTO, it stands for Ordo Templi Orientis,

right? But what does a wizard do? They make a religion. So America's lousy with religions that come out of Albany. The Mormons come out of there, the Seventh-day Adventists come out of there, the Jehovah's come out of there, the— I mean, a bunch of them.

Speaking of banging your wife, pull up a picture.

Hold on, hold on.

So what do you think? Why do you think they're doing that? Why do you think they all come out of that one area? Do you think this is all engineered? engineered?

Uh, well, engineered by these kind of societies where that's the goal. If you're in these, these kind of groups, by the way, is control and enslavement of other people. They're like the LaVey Church, by the way, that, that lies and says like, oh, they're atheists. Nah, they're about some— they're about, uh, NLP, which is like pickup artist Andrew Tate bullshit, like pimping. That's what pimping is, like a mind control, right? They're all about that.

Wait a minute, neuro-linguistic programming is Pimping?

Pimping is a form of NLP. It's a subset of it, I would say.

Okay, so it's mind control. That's right.

Mind control, I know people feel like that's a weird term, but I mean, it's what you call propaganda. You call it advertising. You call it marketing. The Bernays School of Marketing.

Well, clearly people hypnotize people. Yeah. Clearly Manchurian candidates is something that really works.

That's right. And why do we need that? We need people that are killers and spies and seductresses that don't know doing it, because if they're captured, they won't say nothing, right?

Or at the very least, you can get them to do something that they would never agree to do ordinarily, and if they get captured, who gives a fuck? You got them to do the task.

Right.

And we saw a bunch of those fake— dude, I don't know—

Suicide bombers.

Sure. That's a great one.

Classic example.

It's the ultimate example.

Or how about all the fake crash dummies that went at Trump? The one at the White House— dude, I can't even count all the fake ones now. Wait a minute. Fake crash dummies? The one at the White House, the guy that ran through naked that they tacked that Dana White was there. Everybody got down.

No, he wasn't naked. That's the guy with the gun?

Yeah, why was he in the picture, had no shirt on? And then so they put Lindsey Graham on top of him in a meme.

I think that guy was a schoolteacher. He's like a crazy liberal schoolteacher and he brought a gun, tried to— but hold on a second.

If you believe the lone nut thing, I can't help you.

But there are some lone nuts.

Sure, but I, I don't know which ones they are. But of course there's got to be, and the goal is of course force to have remote triggerable nuts. If you think of these social media things like your Bluesky or your Threads, what do you think? You've got people of a like mindset.

Don't point to me when you say Threads. Why'd you point to Duncan? Because I sent a link to Threads and he thinks I don't go on Threads.

I told you I won't read it.

I know, that's why I pointed to him. You were right to call me out because that's why I did it. So you got your group right there. Remember Cambridge Analytica? They made a big deal about that.

Okay, in what way?

Cambridge Analytica, when Brexit happened, I think Sebastian Cumabunch played the Jamie,

for a second.

What they were studying is how do we get the message to the people that they're gonna respond to it and get them mobilized, right? That's Cambridge Analytica. Do you remember that?

I don't remember what Cambridge Analytica was about.

Me neither. I've heard about it a million times.

It was when Trump won and then Brexit happened. It was because online people were mobilized by this thing that was like seeing your likes, the shit they use now to sell you a TV on your phone, they were using to affect that vote with Brexit. I mean, you remember this, right? Just put it up, I guess, and refresh here. But so Cambridge Analytica is very famous. Here you go.

So Facebook Cambridge Analytica data scandal was a major 2018 data privacy crisis involving the British political consulting firm Cambridge Analytica and social media giant Facebook. So what happened? Data harvesting. Okay, regular stuff. Now, used Facebook's API to collect data not only from the users who took the quiz but also from millions of their Facebook friends without explicit consent. The data of up to 87 million Facebook profiles was improperly obtained. and handed over to Cambridge Analytica. Cambridge Analytica used psychographic profiles built from this data to assist political campaigns, including Donald Trump's and Ted Cruz's 2016 US presidential campaigns.

Which is how you know it's from something in Tel Aviv, probably. That is fucking evil. So, we've progressed since then. You know how far— you've heard of geofencing, right?

Sure.

Okay, what's geofencing?

You know, where they do stuff with your cell phone. So a lot of the churches— there's a big story that like I don't know if it was Mossad or who it was, is geofencing the Christian churches to like— there you go.

A location-based technology that creates a virtual boundary or fence around a real-world geographic area using GPS, Wi-Fi, cellular data, or RFID. When a mobile device or tagged asset enters, leaves, or dwells within this defined perimeter, the system automatically triggers a pre-programmed action.

So they're using that to spy on churches here.

So exhausting.

But weren't they using it like algorithmically to like, if you're in that area, you're gonna start seeing shit on your phone? They want you to see it.

That's exactly right. Exactly right.

So that's, that's, um, so creepy. Everywhere you look, you're getting fucked. Yeah, it's so exhausting.

Basically, you have principles.

Here's what I don't get. It's like, it's so— I mean, it seems not hard, but if you have a principle like, hey, I think you're not allowed to starve kids to death, uh, because you think it's advantageous in a war.

That seems reasonable.

No, it seems fucked up actually if you ask around, and you'd never be appointed anything. And in fact, someone would hire a cutout to oppose you if you ever did try to run for anything because you're talking about

Palestine.

Cambridge Analytica resulted in a $5 billion fine to Meta/Facebook. Just this week they got a $25 billion penalty from a New Mexico state court.

Wow. Wow.

Oh, that's because they were harvesting you. So that's the value.

This is recently?

Yeah, this was just this week. So

this is why we need the AI data.

Just this week? A New Mexico state court ordered Meta to pay $25 billion after a jury found the company misled state residents about its data privacy practices. That's tied to Data Analytica, Cambridge Analytica.

Look up Gideon, okay? It's called Gideon. And it's— so remember when they said there was a Homeland Security or ICE office in Tel Aviv? And, and I remember on Jimmy's show we covered them like, oh, what are they training them to like break their arms better or something? No, that's, um, it's like only legal to have the thing there. So remote neural monitoring, that's the thing. Remember I showed you the mind-reading headphones last time?

Creepy.

You don't need headphones for that. Your phone could— your whole body could be used as a circuit. Your phone can— I've never had my phone read my mind, but many people will tell you that's happened where they thought of something. That's because They just studied the patterns your brain makes and they translate it. And the AI helps them.

So your phone can read your mind for real?

Well, yeah, interpreting neural patterns, you understand? So they've— for a lot of people it'll be accurate, probably not for everybody is my guess, but I don't know all the ins and outs of it. But what I do know is that Gideon thing in the AI centers, that's what they're gonna be doing.

I think I'm gonna get a flip phone.

Dude, I think it's the move. I think it's the move.

I think I'm gonna get a flip phone and I'm gonna use my regular phone I use my phone just to like get online and check my email. I

think it's the move.

But I always put it away and say—

Well, if you got nothing to hide, there's no reason not to have Flock on and that, right?

You

got nothing to hide. Somebody actually said that once. I had a conversation with a guy that I actually kind of respected, and he was talking about the NSA and the Edward Snowden shit, and he goes, if you don't have anything to hide, who gives a shit? I was like, what are you saying? How can you really say that?

Well, we better fight against communism.

Israeli startup aims to revolutionize security screening with AI-powered weapon scanner.

You gotta look up Gideon.

No, that's how I got to it.

Scanary says its radar-based tech developed by a former radar engineer of Iron Dome can screen 25,000 people per hour to detect threats in stadiums, transit hubs, and airports. Scanary? How is it screening them? What is it screening them for?

Circumstantial evidence.

So like it knows this guy has a gun on him? It knows that guy has a knife on him? How does it know that?

No, it's been terrible.

Have you been to a sporting event like the last couple years where you don't have to go through a metal detector anymore?

No.

Oh, well, I have.

Really?

Yeah, specifically in Columbus at Crew Stadium. There's like a group of people watching everyone walk through these scanners, and they'll stop one person maybe out of like 30 or 40 to just double-check something that maybe they got like a red, like they might be seeing something like this.

So you think as these people are walking, there's some sort of technology that can scan your back bag as you're walking.

They're probably seeing through your clothes.

Yeah, so there was a— I didn't— this was not as good, but it's— hold on, mine's not working.

Wouldn't they just keep you from wearing a backpack?

Um, well, this isn't— this is the show that's for you to keep you safe, but it's not. It's to keep the powers that be safe from you. That's what the real purpose is, always.

Okay, settle down.

This video is showing just— I've seen this on other things online— how AI is being used to monitor different security feeds, if you will.

Yo, the cops—

Like, what, Flock cameras, I guess?

Regular cops.

Hang on, Kurt, let him talk. What?

It's just like Flock and other companies like Flock. They, they can throw the AI systems on top of the security footage to start tracking things and just making notes, put them in databases, go back and check things over time. Yeah, someone wants to check where you've been throughout the day, they can go find you.

Yeah, that creeps the fuck out of me. And that was one of the things about the Flock cameras that's so crazy, when you found out how many different people had access to it. Terrible. Like how many cops were using it to like— they were using it to spy on chicks they were trying to date. There was like spying on their ex.

Stalking.

Stalking ladies. Fucking stalking people. Yeah, and then people that they had like disagreements with, like find them. They were doing— they had access to it where you're like, how does like a cop just log in and have access to this stuff? It should be like very difficult to get access for the average person. You should have a fucking need to look at that.

But now think of the merger of this tech and just basic advertising, right? So I'm flock monitoring everybody, and you're like in the area of my store about to go in my competitor's store. I noticed that you go to my competitor's store. What if I could start feeding your algorithm commercials for my store instead of my competitor's store, right? Then add to that state propaganda. propaganda, the geofencing stuff, which is I've identified that you go to this place, the people at this place have this political ideology. What if we can start feeding you a real subtle series of things through Meta that will shift your thinking or make you feel like the way you think is fucking insane?

Have you seen Robert Epstein's work that he's done with Google searches, curated Google searches? No. Very interesting.

We had him on Jimmy.

Yeah, he's been on here a couple times. So what he's shown is that they use curated Google searches to completely shift your perception of a political campaign. Wow. So say if you were against Talarico, you would look up James Talarico and you'd immediately be fed stories about him being able to name his favorite drag queen instantaneously, him having 11-year-old drag queens on stage with him. It would do something that freaked you out. Or the opposite, if you Google Ken Paxton, immediately show you corruption, immediately show you lawsuits, immediately show you all these negative hit pieces written on him. So when they do that, they can shift noticeably, like, what was the percentage? Like 30% of people that are in the middle on the fence, they could shift them one way or the other.

So you mix this with— sorry, Joe, I'm sorry. You mix this with Cambridge Analytica. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm so sorry. Oh my God. That's so different.

There's so many different ways to do this. The Cambridge Analytica way, the Google search way. So searches are curated, right? If you Google Donald Trump, you don't get just any story on Donald Trump. You would get the negative ones first. And then if you Googled Hillary Clinton, you'd get Secretary of State, humanitarian, Clinton Foundation, all the good stuff. And the whole idea is to shift perceptions. And amongst people that are on the fence, which is a giant percentage of the population— Yeah. They're not undecided, right? You could shift them by like 30%, like a very high level of— you can, and you can completely change an election one way or another that was like neck and neck.

And that kind of tech should be illegal. Like, clearly that should be illegal. It's propaganda. It's propaganda. But of the most misleading kind.

It was made legal in 2015.

That's the problem with Obama when they passed the Smith-Mundt thing.

Modernization Act.

Yeah, what they did was they essentially legalized propaganda so that they could protect us.

They just wanted to bring baseball to Cuba.

They wanted to make sure that we could use the same sort of propaganda we use overseas on Americans because we got to protect people. Oh

my God, Duncan, it's so fucked up.

It's so crazy. Like, there's so much manipulation. And then also, just think about this conversation. Like, how many times Kurt's brought something up, I'm like, what? What is that? Yeah, like, there's too many things you're getting fucked with, right? Whether it's glyphosate or atrazine is making the frogs gay, whatever the fuck is happening, there's too much to keep track of, right? There's too many things. Yeah, there's too many stories. There's the— what was the child Franklin scandal? There's too many of these fucking stories where you're like, how many can I pay attention to?

Well, how much will you tolerate? I'm guessing you'll— they could do it to you forever.

Well, who's they? The thing is, like, people running a bunch of different groups of people, they're a bunch of— involved in a bunch of different types of manipulation and propaganda.

Well, there's a pyramid that goes up, of course. Since we have this CRISPR gene editing for quite some time, longer than they've told you, I'll bet there's all kinds of Olympians at the top of the heap. Oh,

where are we going with this?

Gods among us.

Well, not among you, but I'm just saying you've got people with no oversight that can do whatever they want. Who was the guy who said we control time and space when Trump got in?

I'm just amazed that these guys had the courage to come out and say they fucked Lindsey Graham after after he was dead.

Why would you do that?

What's the benefit of that? 'Cause he had the most bumps on his fucking taint.

I mean, those guys are heroes.

For fucking a great American hero?

Yeah, well, for coming out bravely after his death.

That's called being a good sex worker, it is.

And for pleasuring one of the greatest—

They could have done it while he was alive, and that would have been wrong.

Really?

Or they could have kept their mouths shut forever, and we would have never known. Right. We would have never known that Lindsey Graham was gay.

No one would have guessed, ever.

I would have never guessed.

Never would have guessed.

I never would have believed it.

He's not brand new.

I'm still incredulous.

I don't believe it. I'm gonna be honest.

It's not real.

Imagine those brave characters, they got together, all of them, and said, you know what, let's come out and let's say we fucked him.

Yeah.

People need to learn that Republicans are gay. There's a lot of them. You know, nobody would ever guess that Republicans are gay.

I think there's a lot of like— that's one of the big rumors about Washington is there's a lot of closeted gay Republicans.

Remember when those dudes— how do you know? Except Pete Buttigieg. for some reason. That guy's faking

it. Remember that? He's faking it? You think he's a fake gay?

I don't know, Tucker said it on Jimmy's show one time.

He said he's a fake gay?

He said that's the rumor on K Street. What?

Tucker just says shit sometimes.

Hey, I'm not— I'm just gonna trust the science on this one because that's hilarious. Why does he do that?

Tucker says that nuclear bombs weren't created by people.

Who created them?

I don't know, but that's what he said. He said, I don't think people made them. I'll never believe that despite what they tell me.

Well, what?

Who made

He's talking— yeah, okay.

He got attacked by a demon in his sleep.

I don't doubt that. I've been attacked by demons in my sleep.

Really?

Sure. Wow.

No matter if it's satanic shit though.

What? He actually got marks on him.

I know, I don't think I ever got a claw mark, but I've definitely tried to fall asleep on acid and get attacked by demons.

Tucker is very clever, and I think he's almost like doing a very— he's doing like a little subtle Fiction occasionally, like throws things in there for funsies.

Conceptually, he doesn't believe in anything.

A little bit. No, no, no, that's not what I'm saying at all.

Because if you're Christian, you don't believe in demons.

I do not. No, no, no, that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is like there's some things that he says, I'm like, I don't know if you're like— like you don't think nuclear bombs are made by people? Like what?

He's saying the intelligence behind it, they channeled something the way they got our rockets from doing jerking off in the desert and looking at each other's dicks. eyes for some reason?

What? Yeah, Jack Parsons.

Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

How do you not know this?

They jerked off and looked in each other's eyes? I know Jack Parsons was— I'm being glib, but— Well, Jack Parsons was a Satanist, right? Like a legitimate Satanist.

Yeah, that's the father of all—

He was a Thelemite. That and the Nazis.

He wasn't a Satanist.

He wasn't?

No, he was a Thelemite. He was a student of Crowley.

Sex cult antichrist.

Satan just means an enemy of man.

Oh. I thought he was like a Satanist.

No, well, I mean, people lump in— that's the problem is people like are kind of illiterate when it comes to all the different, like, sex-crazed— he wasn't a Satanist.

Sex? Duncan, what is sex-crazed?

That doesn't mean you're a Satanist.

This means you just like to fuck?

Yeah.

You think about it a lot?

My mom said Satanists is a sex-crazed—

Like how they sell you cars. Yeah, like Sydney Sweeney sell a sports app.

Fuck yeah.

What are we, sex-crazed?

She's some Mossad honey trap bullshit, you know that? You saw that?

Well, thank you, Mossad.

Like all the actresses and actors, they're all fucking puppets.

I thought they were aliens or babies or something.

Why would you think that? No one said that.

What are we looking at, Jamie?

Scientology is based on this cult Parsons was a part of. That's right.

Oh, really?

L. Ron Hubbard said he infiltrated a group of Satanists. He's talking about this guy.

God, this is too much. It's like we were talking about. I think you might be working for the government to overthrow us with information.

Look at his outfit.

He's overwhelming us with this. You took your CIA vest off. How come?

It was very hot. It was too hot. Hmm. Also, I thought Jamie could tell I was wearing a wire, and I was like, fuck it, I'm not doing it. I look over, I see Jamie looking at me, and I got spooked.

So you don't want to wear the headphones?

No, they fall

off.

I mean, this is one of the things that I've said about you, like, from working with Jimmy. It's like you were normal like 3, 4 years ago, and then like something happened to you with like the amount of fucking conspiracies you were confronting.

No, no, no, no, no. No, no, just news.

Again, right, the tokoloshe thing is my fun time. Conspiracies— I don't want to say like— I don't mean like—

I mean the disaster that is current events on a daily basis.

And then the true reality behind these current events is

horrific.

It's horrific.

And so once you see how bad it is and you see the kind of criminal organization that you're having this administered to you by, uh, you have to be a fool. It's like, I don't think John— I don't think the mafia— actually, the Italian mafia is better than these people by a lot. I mean, credit where credit do. Nowhere near as vile. And, and the level of trafficking of humans and just your money and everything is— they can never stop. The way Roblox can never stop letting pedos on because it'll, it'll ruin their fucking—

The way they can't stop using glyphosate in your food supply. Yeah. Otherwise they can't get you food.

Right.

That's what Epstein is.

You got no food.

Epstein's a minor node in a thing that's way bigger than him, obviously. We were with Eric Weinstein at the Utah He goes, do you think he was the main guy? I go, no. He goes, if it all ever came out, it would end the world. And I go, oh no!

Epstein said that?

Yeah.

He loves that kind of talk. He loves— him and his brother, they both love cloak-and-dagger talk.

You see his brother's mentor's email. Speaking of tokoloshes, Dr. Trivers, you see his fucking weirdo emails to Epstein about—

What?

Yeah.

Who's that?

Robert Trivers, the mentor of the better Weinstein. Brett Weinstein? Yeah, Brett's mentor. it.

Yeah. What do you mean?

So Robert Trivers, the email about how you can manipulate a kid to give him tits and a dick.

Oh yeah.

By the way, it's Weinstein, not Weinstein.

Oh, I've been saying it wrong.

Don't say it like Harvey.

Fuck.

Harvey Weinstein. Weinstein.

He's a Stein.

It's like that guy Robert Reich. Remember Robert Reich?

Like Steven Seagal. It's not Steven Siegel. Get it?

Got it. Sorry I said it wrong.

Emails revealed Epstein encouraged controversial scientists to study transgender biology.

What fucked up thing did Epstein not do?

But they're all— dude, the transhumanism— the transgender thing is a stepping stone to transhumanism, right? That's why it doesn't make any sense where they're like, we want to eliminate categories. But if I'm like, I feel like a woman, and you eliminate the category of woman, what are you just making me into, nothing? Like, that's what transhumanism is, the goal, not transgender. That's a little stepping stepping stone for the transhumanist movement.

But what about autogynephilia?

Well, what about it? What's wrong with that?

Well, that's what a lot of transgenderism is.

Sure, but Metzger's pointing out—

The pushing of it by oligarchs, which is what that was. That wasn't a thing that was that common, but they push it. That email's about that.

So the email's about oligarchs pushing transgender ideology?

No, that's even grosser, that email.

I think it's bigger than that. I think it's like, you know, Think of Kurzweil's idea of nanobots disassembling and reassembling our bodies.

Nicholas located an email in which Trivers thanked Epstein for extra money, an appointment as an advisor to your foundation. Epstein responded, I want to see you, I guess your, piece on transgender in the bio world. 2 months later, Trivers responded and said he was getting to the end of transsexuality.

The second paragraph's the one.

It says, uh, Travers continued to make dehumanizing comments about trans women, including, if you as a heterosexual male and have a minor desire to suck a dick, then what better organism to do it with than a transsexual? How is that dehumanizing?

To call them an organism?

It says, she will smell like a woman, be softer and more hairy, hairless like a woman and may to some degree actually resemble one morphologically, leaving the dick for you to enjoy in a feminine setting. How is that dehumanizing?

What a nerd.

Because of the organism. What better organism?

That's how a scientist writes about biology.

But also, whoever wrote this is not really getting to the heart of it.

Also, these are private emails. Like, how's that dehumanizing? It says it again. It says Trivers and Epstein once again corresponded about trans people in dehumanizing ways. Is this like Trans Times Weekly that this is in?

Yeah, this is a really bad—

it is from them.us.

Okay, what is that? Why are you putting my pronouns? Why are you sending us here? Well, but this— all this dehumanizing chitter chatter, like, I know you're calling someone

an organism is not dehumanizing.

It's just this fuck bullshit talk.

We are— I'm not gay, they're gay. I just want them to be softer and have a dick to suck.

That's Normal.

Scientific, right?

That's how kids talk in college.

Scientific. Why don't we just shut up, Frank?

I'm just talking to my friend, Jeffrey Epstein.

If you wanna get in with the right people in college, you have to talk like that.

Yeah.

Yeah, you gotta suck that woman dick.

What's wrong with that?

What's wrong with a little Bridget McCrone?

That one, like, where's that lawsuit? Like, they keep saying they're gonna sue Candace.

Yeah.

I think she's winning that one. She's going nowhere. Yo, you know she has a dick. Take it to, like, go do it live. Chromosomes.

Who cares if she has a dick? That's irrelevant.

Are you letting dog off?

Well, because it's a different thing between a 40-year-old woman fucking a 14-year-old boy—

That's fucked up.

And a 40-year-old man fucking a 14-year-old boy.

Especially if it's his dad secretly.

What?

It might be his dad.

It might be his dad? Macron's dad?

Wait, what?

What?

Well, I don't know that it is for sure, but—

Who said this one? Is this a Candace one, or is this somebody else's thoughts?

Well, no, Candace was taking stuff from French report, and she says that when she was reporting it.

It might be his own Yeah, it's— The boy might be his uncle.

I don't want to get you in trouble by bringing up the good billionaires, the Rothschilds, who have not done anything wrong, and only— I only hate Peter Thiel. I would never talk about the Soros boy or the Rothschilds or anybody else that could be construed. I make that clear.

Good.

Wait, what does this have to do with Macron's dick?

Because they're related. He's like a Rothschild banking guy.

Have you seen him sit down? Her. Her sit down? No. The way she sits down, like a dude.

It looks like David Spade sitting down.

There's no way. Could be.

Could be, but I do think the pedophilia part gets left out. Right.

The pedophilia part is very different. So like pedophilia for like a 40-year-old woman and a 14-year-old boy, fucked up. It's a little fucked up, but whatever. That's a fibophilia. But the difference between that and a 40-year-old man, a 40-year-old man and a 14-year-old boy freaks people out. Rightly so. Like when you hear about a schoolteacher that fucks some quarterback, like who cares? Remember the Galifianakis

Yeah,

yeah, you got his buddies high-fiving him to death. Great joke.

I know somebody that that happened with.

Oh, I bet you do.

Yeah.

Is his name Kurt Metzger?

Maybe. No,

no, but you

know

what I'm saying? Like, if a teacher is, uh, having sex with her quarterback, you know, you know, probably we're gonna break the kid's heart, fuck his head up, but he's gonna gonna be fine. But, but if you find out that like the football coach is fucking one of the, those 15-year-old cheerleaders, you want him in a cage. It's a different feeling, right?

Yeah, it's a different feeling.

45-year-old football coach is banging a 15-year-old cheerleader, like string him up.

All right, look, I'm not, I'm not, I'm sorry, it's gonna seem like I'm trying to go woke here, but I remember doing some fucking joke on stage about this subject, right? Talking about this, the difference in whatever, edge It's a long time ago, stupid joke. It wasn't funny at all. But this dude comes up to me after the show and he's like, I got— when I was a kid, when I was like, like 12 or something, I got fucked by an adult woman. And he's like, and it fucked me up, and I'm still fucked up. Like, it actually—

I know people that it fucked them up because that's a very—

It fucks you up. It's too much. No, no, you can't handle it. It wrecks you. And like, and though I don't doubt— like, let me tell you, when I was 14 That I would— that would be like God coming into my life to give me a hot teacher to fuck. So I get what you're— you know what I mean? Like, I was licking— I was licking— I was licking hot teacher pages, you know? I was like so horny. But I think—

You were hot for teacher?

Yeah, yeah. But I think it wrecks— it wrecks some people. It wrecks people.

Oh yeah, no doubt.

If that happened to me, I would be messed up from it because I was a church kid, very innocent type. And so, you know, I mean, there was dudes in my school that had like mustaches and families working at AutoZone, but like, I wasn't that. So, right, that— I think it's very individual.

It certainly is. How bad it is. Not ideal.

There's a law for a reason.

Yeah.

I don't give it— now when people go, oh, she's only 19 and that guy is however old, I don't give a shit.

Like, think about that lady that fucked her student, or the young boy, and then— it was a young guy. Yeah. And then she went to jail, and then when they got out, like, they had a family together.

And they became the leaders of France, I believe. No, I'm joking. Same story, different outcome.

Yeah, it's not always— it's not ideal. I mean, I would be pissed. I mean, imagine if you heard that happen to your kid, you know? Yeah, you know, that's— it's fucked up. It's like there's just too much power to manipulate some poor teen, you know? Of course, it's fucked up.

Especially with those big juicy tits.

Oh God, I would have loved it though.

Yeah, what's her name again? Mary-Kayla Turner. That's right, Mary-Kayla Turner.

Those their kids?

They made a beautiful family.

He says they got separated. This is like 10 years ago.

Yeah, they separated.

21 years. 21 years is a good time.

Well, they eventually grew up and realized, oh my God, she was fucking crazy.

Yeah.

Why was she banging me when I was 14? Yeah. That was fucked.

Or maybe she— he just got too old for her.

Boys, I gotta pee. Let's wrap this up.

All right, let's wrap it up.

Mystery Boys is an awesome podcast. You guys are great together. Thank you very much, son. Legitimately, like, it's— I'm so glad you guys decided to do it. I knew it was gonna be huge from the beginning. I was like, this is gonna click.

Thanks, Joe. Thanks, man.

Good luck with your fake dick.

I know, I feel— now that I know there's a real one—

How about we'll swap and we won't tell anybody? I'll give you a real one on the way out. You can leave that one behind.

I just want to feel the heft of it.

That's a gift. Just because I love you. Oh my God, take the real back, you old man! I'm gonna give you the real walrus dick and you can leave the fake one and no one will know.

Well, Jenna doesn't want me to have it, but—

She doesn't want you to have the fake one?

I just like to position her as being against me having a walrus dick in my pocket.

All right, you're the best, Joe. And your show, one more time, tell everybody.

The Experts on YouTube right now is pretty funny, man.

I, I miss you boys. Look at that, that's awesome.

Yeah, we gotta make our Bass Toe Shop shirts.

Yes, we do.

Bass Toe?

You know, like Bass Pro Shop? Oh, this is Bass Toe Shop. And I have a female oanus.

It looks great.

Instead of

a bass,

it's that oanus with the fish body from, uh, the Atlantic, you know, uh, but It's a chick.

When does this come out?

Tomorrow.

Oh, can I plug a show? Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna be at Mic Drop Comedy in Detroit tomorrow.

Is that the same as Mic Drop in San Diego? Is it the same company?

I think so. I'm not positive about that though. Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. So

this, this Friday, Saturday, Sunday?

Tomorrow. I'm gonna be there tomorrow.

There it is.

Thanks, man.

Detroit House of Comedy, it says.

I like playing Detroit.

That's weird.

I thought Detroit's a good town.

You don't even know where the fuck you're going.

It's Mic Drop Comedy. I don't know why I was saying that. That's what it is. It's Mic Drop Comedy. Oh, okay.

That's where we're gonna be. All right, bye everybody.

Bye.