Transcript of #2266 - Brian Simpson

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Just stick to the talking points. Bro, that's my whole life.

That's stressful.

Yeah, it's super stressful, especially if you're a little intoxicated. You get a couple of whiskies in you and you start talking shit. You got to be responsible for every word that comes out of your mouth, even if it's stupid. But I think people get it. They get that people are human beings, and they can stumble. They forgave a lot of Biden stumbles until they were like, What the fuck? A lot of people in 2020 were like, There's no way. There's no way he's going to do it. He was too old to run when it was 2016.

He's always been known for the gaffs. Because I remember when Obama was picked him, that was the number one concern was like, oh, but sometimes he be saying shit.

He was famous to quote as, Joe is a... Don't worry, Joe will find a way to fuck things up.

I never heard that.

This supposedly... Well, it's hard to know what the quote was, but supposedly- But he got out of all of it. Yeah. Well, that's because the machine was behind him, right? So he gets into office, and you saw the Mike Johnson guy, the speaker of the house. He said that he had talked to him. It took a year to have a meeting, and he finally had this meeting with him. He wanted to talk to him about something. He said, Why did you sign this executive order? And it had something to do with liquid natural gas. He said, I didn't sign that. He said, Yes, you did, sir. You signed it. Can we get it? He has a secretary print it up. He brings it in. He had never read So he was just signing executive orders that he didn't even know. He didn't know what it was about. He thought it was about research, and it was about shutting it down. There's a bunch of people behind him that want to do things, and they think it's for the best interests of the country, and they're all acting as a big group that's like the pupeteer of the president.

That's not how it's supposed to be. It's not supposed to be that way.

Isn't he like that with every president?

I don't know. Because I think when a president brings in a new cabinet, and the new cabinet starts doing different things, then you see what's happening right now. They've already found thousands of criminals that had snuck in here and had committed multiple crimes while they were here, and the Biden administration had left them here, and they allowed them to stay in these sanctuary very cities and sanctuary states. And Trump's just yanking them out and flying them back to Colombia and flying them back to Mexico and flying them back to wherever they're from. Get the fuck out of here. And exporting them in planes. The Biden administration could have done this, too.

Yeah, But I think every president that get in there, they do little shit different than the other side. But at the end of the day, the big major shit that would help out the average people, it always just falls short a couple of votes.

Trump is talking about getting rid of income tax and replacing it with terrorist. I asked him about that on the podcast. What? I thought he was joking around. Yeah, exactly. He was saying that it would be better for the economy. We'd have way more money if in Instead of you paying tax, these companies should be paying tax. Why are they making such a killing off the American people?

But the companies would just charge us bigger prices, wouldn't it?

Well, here's the thing. Could they? If we had American manufacturing that can make the same products? No. So the whole reason why- You can't make the same products for the same price. But if you have other countries charge tariffs, and I think we've charged tariffs in the past, and it's an interesting thing. It's like you make it a trade agreement. It's essentially a trade agreement. And His position has always been that one side of the trade agreement was unbalanced, and America does a stupid job in negotiating its trade agreements. So he wants tariffs and everything. That's what he threatened the guy from Columbia with. He said, because didn't want to take the prisoners. The flights were coming over, and he didn't want to give them approval to land. He said, We're going to tax you. We're going to tariff you 25 %. And then in a week, we're going to jack it up to 50 %. And this guy wrote a poem to Trump. It was the most ridiculous thing ever. The guy's a wild dude.

That's the thing. If you bring in the territory, you have to make them so high that the American goods were cheaper by comparison.

Well, you'd have to really ramp up American manufacturing in a lot of places. We don't make phones. That's one of the craziest things about America. We can't make a phone. We can't even make a phone.

We make mistakes.

Well, I mean, maybe we could make a phone. Isn't there one phone that is made in America? Is there one phone that's manufactured here? I think there is.

I mean, even if it's assembled here- Is it the nothing phone?

Is that it? I think it might be a symbol here. I think they still have to get something- They still have to get shit from China.

They have to get shit from Taiwan. They have to get shit from India. Everybody gets their shit from somewhere.

The problem with American your manufacturing is you can't do it for as cheap as you have to pay people.

No, our problem is, first of all, we're addicted to buying new shit all the time. I have a bunch of phone lines, and one of my phone lines, I have an iPhone 11. It's like five years old. I don't notice when I'm using it, as long as it still works. You don't notice on a normal experience. What do I do with my phone? I'm not fucking making complex video rendering. What am I I'm watching YouTube videos, I'm text messaging people. You don't notice, right? But we're force-fed this idea that you're supposed to get a new one every year. It's one of the weirdest things. You get a new TV every year? You get a new computer every year? Why the fuck do you get a new phone every year? But every year, they keep pushing us to get a new phone. If you make a phone that's American made, more durable, and lasts more than a year, it would be worth a premium, and I wouldn't have to feel bad about slaves in China making it.

Like you This is the only phone. They need to bring back them Nokia phones. Remember those brick phones?

Yes. Well, don't do that. They were just indestructible. Make it dope. Make it a dope phone. But you know.

I don't know, man. I think those days are long gone.

The days of American manufacturing? Yeah. Well, I think with incentives, with government incentives and people understanding that this competition that we're having is all technologically based. And if all of our technology is getting made in another country, that's essentially a national security issue.

You know what I realized is why... Because sometimes politics comes up in the green room, and I always separate myself from the conversation because I realized what everybody has regardless of what size of issues they on, is you all have hope. I'm cynical than a motherfucker. I'm like, This shit was over. This shit bit... For me, I see the asteroid coming, and I'm like, Ain't nothing we going to be I feel about that.

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I'm interested to see. Look, if Robert F. Kennedy Junior gets approved, I'm interested to see. If they start removing pesticides and herbicides and all these things that are killing people, if people's health improves, if we remove things from the human diet, if just start educating people on the importance of diet and exercise, I would love to see that.

But the problem with that is we live in a society where like, none of that shit is going to happen unless it make more money than what we're already doing.

That's not necessarily true because you can motivate people. There's a real power in free motivation. And having a government that's promoting health in that way would cause a bunch of people to take that step that they've been thinking about taking. So a lot of times motivation doesn't catch you flat. Motivation catches you looking for motivation. You want to get your shit together. You're like, God, I just fucking need to get to the gym. I just need something. And then one day, the government announces that we are going to turn the health of America around, and we are going to promote a national fitness regime. We're going to start bringing it to schools and kids to get people healthier. We're going to bring in organic food and start feeding kids. When you feed them in public schools and you have free launches. Is Michelle Obama trying to do something like that? Yes, she did. She got down immediately.

Exactly.

They shut her right the fuck down. They're like, sit down.

You're going to fucking kill our profits.

Fuck this healthy shit.

Because that's the other thing. But what's different now than what's happening back then is we're so divided. If somebody in the government suggested anything was the best, the healthiest thing, at least half the country would be like, I'm not fucking with it for that very reason. You're so right. It's like they attached Obama to Obamacare, even though it was not a bad thing. If Trump was literally like, Hey, every American... Trump and Jacks is the best exercise. People were like, You don't know Trump, Jacks? That's your president's exercise. So it was like, We're so divided, nothing's going to stick.

I also think that the problem with health care and all these things where people are getting paid, you're dealing with a bunch of different games that are being played inside a game that has a function, and that function is health care. It provides health care in a shifty, shitty way. But the game it's playing is make the most money. That's the game it's playing. It's playing a financial game. That's why it's coming up with reasons to deny people, and it's using AI to figure out how to deny people, and they deny a large amount of claims. You got to look at it like what it actually is. It's not that it's all bad, but that there's a bunch of different games. Each person in that game is playing their own game. You have thousands of employees. You have thousands of people trying to climb the corporate ladder and make more money and get promotions and make more money for the company and impress the board They want a fucking yacht, bro.

I'm talking about how much we divide it, but it's weird. That's the one thing they couldn't divide people on. I remember after the CEO got popped on CNN and MSBC Dan Fox, the narrative was the like, how dare people be excited? Because at first they tried to do what they do with everything, and they said, Oh, look at these liberals fucking laughing at death. And then they realized, oh, the insurance industry has fucked over everybody. Everybody. They don't give a fuck who you voted for. That might be the one.

Health care might be the one thing that we can come to a bipartisan agreement on that health insurance and insurance companies in general. They're just captivated by what a corporate corporation is. A corporation has a responsibility to its shareholders to make the most money. And that's a problem with the whole structure of it, is that no matter what the business is, they find a way to make money more than they find a way to do the thing that they're supposed to be doing well as a service to people.

If Trump actually fixed health care, he would go down as one of the greatest presidents. I think it would be a whole different... If he actually did viable, real change to the healthcare system that made it work for everybody?

Well, it used to be that there was no social media. So if you wanted to make a big change, the government could gaslight you on TV in these press conferences and bring out experts and they could gaslight you and tell you what to do. And that was all the information you had. That doesn't work anymore. It doesn't work anymore. So this is one of the reasons why this is the best time ever to revamp healthcare and revamp the way people think what is healthy. What is healthy?

But how are you going to revamp it in the way that still makes money?

Well, it doesn't have to. First of all, you're going to lose money. The country is going to lose money. It's like who's going to get the money? There's an exchange of money, right? If a lot of people are sick all the time, and a lot of people are on Medicaid, and a lot of people are on health insurance, the country is going to spend more money that's going to go to pharmaceutical drug companies, but it doesn't have to go there. We can't commit to giving it to them every year just because they've figured out a way to keep getting it. That's dumb. The right way to say is we have to look at the collective money of the country. Wouldn't it be way better if we spent way less on health care because people got healthier because they figured out there's no easy way to do it. You have to have diet and exercise. It's the most important foundation for any healthy human being. It doesn't matter what exercise. It probably doesn't even matter what diet, as long as you're committed to eating healthy real food. The whole thing is just diet and exercise and movement.

That would fucking cure 70% of the problems we have in this country with health care, because people would be healthy. And so then you wouldn't be as susceptible to getting sick. You wouldn't be as susceptible to getting injured. There's a bunch of things that would probably, likely stack up financially in our favor. That's how you make money out of it. You make money out of it because everybody makes more money. You make more money if you're healthy. You make more money if you're active. If you're in the bed all the time because you have back surgery constantly, or if you got this and that, you got a lot of interruptions in your life. They're going to hiccup your career. They're going to hiccup whatever you're trying to accomplish in your life if you're dealing with being sick all the time.

So you think if people were healthier, they would deny less people?

I think if people were healthier, first of all, you would need way less health care. First, that's the number one thing. If people were fit and they took care of themselves, there's a giant part If you looked at all of the health care issues that we have in this country, there's a giant chunk of it that's connected to diet. It's connected to the standard American diet. It's connected to eating too much calories, garbage food, obesity. All that, it's possible to shift that in a different direction. You just have to change the way people eat. And that you would see other people getting results, and then you would want those results. If you hear RFK Jr. On TV trying to motivate people to do this, and you see him working out. Maybe that's the thing you need that takes you from, Man, I got to go to the gym one day. Fuck it. I'm going to the gym. This is it. And then if more people do that, there's more healthy people. If there's more healthy people, there's less losers. If there's less losers, the country makes more money. The whole GDP goes up. You're going to do better.

You're going to do better with whatever you're doing in life if you're healthy, because health is energy.

But how do you make people- You don't make them do it, but you inspire.

And the government has never done that before. Why not try it? Why not try that? Why not try that? Why not try to fucking gaslight people and tell you got to wear a mask in your car or you're going to die? Instead of that gaslighting, how about pump them up? They scared the fuck out of everybody with COVID. How about they pump everybody the fuck up with health?

If the government wanted everybody to do anything, they have to pay them.

You know another problem with my theory?

I'll give you a tax break if you lose 40 pounds.

Here's another problem with my theory. Trump eats nothing but McDonald's. It's Rick's diecoats. Sharp as a tack, 78 years old. Like, okay, I don't know what to tell you.

If he came back, if he disappeared for six months and came back, just jacked.

Jacked. Shaved his head. Did you see him play tennis with Serena Williams? No. He took his shoes off. He's playing tennis with Serena Williams.

I mean, plan-plan?

Not playing as good as she can play. She's not going to embarrass him.

No, obviously not that.

They're volleying back and forth, and he's playing. Is he running? He plays tennis, man. He can play tennis. The guy plays tennis. I don't know how to play tennis, so I don't know if it looks good, but I'm looking at him hit the ball. It looks like he's doing it the right... He doesn't look like me. If I was doing it, I'd be a fucking spaz. I don't know how to play tennis. Completely lost. Yeah. Yeah. Well, let's see it.

It's because it- It was in 2015.

Oh, it was? Yeah. Oh, God damn it. I got lied to by the reels. I thought it just happened. No, no, no.

2015.

I'm going to Serena. But check out the tennis. Check this out. She could clearly fuck him up. That's a nice gentle serve. Look at it. But look at dude, he's firing back.

Both of his shots are out of bound. That wasn't good.

He's old.

I mean, but he is doing better than I would do.

Oh, way better than me. I mean, he plays tennis. There's a video of him playing tennis. There's like photos of him playing tennis. So he does do some things. It's like there's a lot of guys that are too They can't go to a gym. They need a purpose or they need something that occupies their brain so they play golf or they play tennis or they play games. They play a little pickup basketball. They do that for their health because they just can't do the gym thing. I just don't want to do it. So they do something that keeps them active.

Most of the people I know do shit like that.

Yeah, so he's active.

Pick a basketball or soccer.

But that dude just eats cheeseburgers and shit all day long. I don't know what to say.

But he probably also has zero stress.

Well, he has a way of letting shit roll off his back. He had to have some stress, and that guy shot at him. But even then, he gets hit in the ear and he stands up and yells, fight, fight. It's like, Is this a movie? Are we in a movie? Is this like a simulation?

And then his ear the Black Wolverine.

Bro. He heeled up pretty quick. You can see a little mark on it. There's a little tiny. If you look at it, like when he was right there, I go, Let me see it. And he leaned in. You could see. The ear is filled with blood vessel. That's why it bleed so much.

Nobody talks about it anymore.

No. You know what else nobody talks about? The guy who blew up the cyber truck in front of Trump Tower?

What happened to that guy? I don't even know what you're talking about.

You don't know that story?

I don't follow any of the pop political stuff.

Well, this isn't even political. This is a weird story. It's a guy who was like, Now, has it been confirmed that that's him? I'm going to look at- Let's pull up the story because I don't want to do it any misjustice. But this was after the election, correct? Yes, definitely. It was a real recent. It was on New Year's Day. Okay, New Year's Day. That's how crazy the news cycle is. You forget what day things happened. Was that a year ago? No, it was last week. Oh, all right. There's something constantly bombarding you all the time. So this dude- That dude? Yeah. What is the story behind him? He was a special Forces guy, right? I think he was in a television show with Tim Kennedy. They had a Special Forces TV show where they did something. This guy's like, he's an operator. He's a serious soldier.

Why a cyber truck?

And he allegedly committed suicide with a large handgun, a Desert Eagle.

He rented it.

Okay. Large handgun and blew up this thing. It says, Self-inflicted Gunshot Wound. The whole thing's weird, man. Nobody could imagine him doing this. Everybody's saying it doesn't make sense. Why would he... This guy knew how to make bombs, why would he make a shitty bomb like that that doesn't even blow up the building? It just blows him up in the car. Why would he do it in a cyber truck, which is the most durable car you can buy? That whole thing The cyber truck, you saw that video where I tried to shoot an arrow through it? Oh, yeah. My arrow exploded. That thing's solid steel. So why would you blow yourself up in a solid... You would get a convertible and fuck everybody up, right? If you were If you were going to blow up yourself in a car and you wanted to do the most damage, you'd have a car that you'd want to blow apart. Those Teslas contained the entire explosion.

Yeah. I mean, did he leave some manifesto?

I don't know if he left a note. Did he leave a note? I think so. Yeah. They probably found it barely smoldered outside the- remember? Look, it's like remember when they found the terrorist passports? The planes went into the fucking World Trade Center, blew up in front of everybody's face, just a gigantic, enormous pile of fire. And yet this dude's passport just barely singed on the outside like a Bugs Bunny cartoon falls to the ground.

That was what the whole Sean Ryan thing was about because they sent the email and And then that was, did the guy write the email?

Right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. Now I remember. God, I forgot. Sean Ryan was involved in that. And then people were saying that he didn't... That guy didn't send that to you. You got hoaxed. And then Sean Ryan proved that the guy did send that. So So he was saying some stuff in there about drones. What was he saying? Let's put up what he said.

You know what I realized, man.

Shout out to Sean Ryan. It said, In case I do not make it to my decision point or onto the Mexico border, I am sending this now. Please do not release this until 1: 00 Jan and keep my identity private until then. First off, I'm not under duress or hostile influence or control. My first car was a 2006 black Ford Mustang a V6 for verification. First of all, that's not true. That was not his first car. No. No, he had a different car. We'll find that out in a second. Put a tab on that, Jamie. What we have been seeing with drones is the operational use of gravitic propulsion systems, powered aircraft by most recently China in the East Coast, but throughout history, the US. Only we and China have this capability. Our open location for this activity in the box is below. China has been launching them from the Atlantic from submarines for years with this activity recently has picked up. As of now, it is just a show of force, and they are using it similar to how they use the balloon for a SIGINT. Sigint? How do you say that? Sigint? And ISR, which are also part of the integrated comm systems.

There are dozens of those balloons in the air at any given time. So what is because of the speed and stealth of these unmanned aircraft, they are the most dangerous threat to national security that has ever existed. They basically have an unlimited payload capacity and can park it over the White House if they wanted to. It's checkmate. Us government needs to give the history of this, how we're employing and weaponizing it, how China is employing them, and what the way forward is. China is poised to attack anywhere in the East Coast. I've been followed for over a week now, likely from Homeland or FBI, and they're looking to move on me and are unlikely to let me cross into Mexico, but I because they know I am armed and I have a massive VBIED. I think that's vehicle something. You're a military guy. I've been trying to maintain a very visible profile and have kept on their phone, and they are definitely digitally tracking me. I have knowledge of this program and also of war crimes that were covered up during air strikes in the Nimra's province, Afghanistan, in 2019 by the admin DOD, DEA, and CIA.

I conducted targeting for these strikes of over 125 buildings. Sixty-five were struck because of CIV, C-A-S, that killed hundreds of civilians in a single day. Us F-O-R-A, continued strikes after spotting civilians on initial ISR. It was supposed to take six minutes and scramble all aircraft to sent com. The UN basically called these war crimes, but the administration made them disappear. I was part of that cover up with US F-O-R-A and agent redacted—they cut his name off—of the DEA. I don't know if my abduction attempt is related to either. I worked with General Miller's 10 staff on this as well as the response to Bala Murgaub, AOBS commander at the time redacted. Okay, he said, You need to elevate this to media so we avoid a world war because this is a mutually your destruction situation. So he gave his LinkedIn for vetting, active duty. He got his profile, the whole deal. Now, the problem is that was not his first car. So Google what what my first car was.

Why lie about that?

Because somebody might not have known. If you ask, there's a lot of people that say, what was your first car? And a lot of people don't know. I've said it publicly, but how many people know what my first car was? Right. If you're a dude and you're hanging out with other dudes, I don't know what your first car was.

You're suggesting someone else wrote that? Yes.

If they get the car wrong, yeah.

Yeah, you're right. That's a hell of That's a hell of a detail to get wrong. Here.

My first car was a 1973 Chevelle, but I only had it for two days. It broke down. The guy sold me a lemon, and I got my money back. He came and got his car. I think he knew he fucked me. You know? And then my next car after that was a 1968 Oldsmobile. So I remember. I know what my cars were. You're a kid, you get your first car, you know what your first car was. Yeah, of course. Bitch, if your first car was a 2007 Mustang, you're Everyone's going to know. You're going to tell everybody, right?

Yeah, you're not going to forget what your first car was.

You're going to know. You're not going to be confused. You're not going to be confused as to what was your first car. You'll pull it out right away. Yeah.

I mean, I've never seen anybody get that wrong.

Your car is like the first time you have freedom. You can't believe you could just drive anywhere you want. You go to your friend's house. You're like, Dude, I can drive. It's one of the wildest experiences I remember clearly just learning to drive and how wild it was. You could just drive. We're so used to it. We're basically riding around an amusement park ride. You would pay a lot of money to ride in. Like your car? An Audi? Bro, that's like you're in a super capable sports sedan from 2024. So you're talking about like modern suspension and anti-lock braking system and everything's controlled electronically and you have a fucking super powerful engine. It's all taught and it moves differently based on how the fucking ground moves, like whether it's shitty surface or smooth surface. They just adapt to everything. That thing's glued. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, those things are crazy. This world that we live in today is so fun. You would remember your first car.

I'm having a hard time. This is one of the strangest searches I've had. I'll add this to conspiracy. I can't find anything that's coming up with a date before January fourth, which would only be a few days, excuse me, a few days after. I've done Google search and Twitter search. Twitter search didn't show anything, and I hit latest and it still not show me anything recent.

Damn, somebody wrote a whole article about how that was not his car.

I know, but it's just weird that it's blocking this stuff. Look at the thing.

Can you try the brave browser? How would that-I don't know that it would have a...

I'm on a website. I'm on Twitter. What was that proof that that was- isn't giving me anything more recent than January fourth.

When they say about discrepancies, does anybody use the car as a discrepancy? Because I definitely know I read that. No, that's not what I'm even bringing up.

I'm saying the search is being manipulated right now. I can't search for this.

What?

That's what I'm trying to say. Eew. Searching for his name in car, I don't get anything in the last three weeks. That's weird. No one on Twitter is talking about it.

Let me imagine this. Is it possible that if there was a story like this and you were trying to cover up discrepancies and you didn't want people talking about it. Could you just flood the search with a bunch of other stories on it so that it takes so many pages to get to it that you never get it?

I would argue, yes, you could, but I'm not seeing that. I'm seeing the opposite. I'm seeing no stories other than within the 48 hours of it happening, which means I find that odd.

That is weird.

I'll go to page two.

Bro, this is how checked that I am. I didn't even know this happened. I went to news.

News isn't shown. It's four weeks ago.

How about just write, Will you do me a favor and just write, Matthew Liversberger. How do you say it? Liversberger. Liversberger's car was not... First car. Just say first car. I did. But let me ask. Just say first car was not a 2006 Ford Mustang.

That's too specific. Yeah, that's too specific.

But just try. Was not. First car was not a 2006 Ford Mustang.

I'm getting the same thing. That's where I was. It's not the best way to do a search.

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It's a crazy gun to shoot yourself in the car. The question is, when did he do it? Because it looks like the guy in the video in the car sits there, pulls up, and then the whole thing blows up. Are you telling me that he's blowing himself up and shooting himself at the same time? Does he I have a button on his left hand? That's the bomb detonator, and then the trigger on his right?

I don't know, man. That shit's highly advanced, man. I get tweets from two hours. The cyber truck might have shot him.

Say that again, Jimmy.

When I take off the word car from my search on Twitter, I get tweets from two hours ago.

So there's still tweets I'm getting like crazy about it. But when I type in car, now it's old tweets. You get January 16th.

I'm on latest.

That's weird. You typed first car?

I just typed in the word car. It shouldn't matter if it says something.

Tell me the whole conspiracy, though. Try first car. I already did that. I know.

I reduced it so that it was less specific.

But what's the rest of the conspiracy?

Incorrect after the first car discrepancies. Click on that. Show more. So including incorrect reference for the first car Liblesberger owned. According to public records, his first car was not a 2006 Ford, contrary to what is mentioned in the email. This has led to skepticism on whether the email is real or fabricated. That's it. So where's According to public records, that was not his first car.

Well, show us the public records.

Let's see. It was a BMW. 2008, 1 Series BMW.

I would add, witness this just be registered under his name? Maybe he borrowed one, maybe his parents registered it. I think they checked his parents' cars, too.

What about that? 1998 is a full of Mustang.

But it's 2006. It's a big difference.

See right here, why is Sean Ryan spreading an easily confirmed fake email? If your first car was a 1998 Mustang, would you say your first car was a 2007 Mustang? The dates don't even line up. So he had a '98 Ford Mustang. Why is the BMW circled?

Because you see, the thing is whenever weird shit happened, the first people to talk be full of shit. They're the worst people.

It looks like he didn't have... He had... Scroll that back again. He had a '98 Mustang, not a 2007. That was his first car. Then he had a 2008 BMW, and then he had a Jeep He never had a 2006 Mustang.

You can see right when he got divorced because he got a Mustang again. Yeah, I'm back, baby. 2018.

2018, he got a Ford Mustang GT.

That's their midlife crisis.

You got the GT, too. Greg Fitzsiment got it. He got it with the EcoBoost. He was telling me how much he loves it. I was like, I know, but you didn't get the V8. He's like, Oh, gas mileage. I'm like, Shut your mouth.

What do you mean EcoBoost?

It's a great engine. Don't get me wrong. It's got plenty of power. In comparison to the old cars, it's way more It's a fast fucking car. But the EcoBoost is just more fuel-efficient. It doesn't have the same horsepower. The GT has the coyote V8 that has that rumble. It makes you feel alive. When you… Have you ever been in a red light with a guy in a Mustang and they take off and you hear that sound, especially if he's got a manual?

My homie, when I was on the service, he had this fucking blue Corvette Corvette. I forget what year it was, but it was an older shit. But he was obsessed with this motherfucking car, and it was so fucking loud. It was definitely like a '70 something. You know what I mean? Or '60s something.

It was like an old- The cool ones.

Yeah, but it was like, no modern technology in this motherfucker. It was loud as shit.

Corvettes are the only cars that looked good into the '70s. All the other American cars turned to dog shit. They became boxes. They became fuel-efficient boxes. But Corvettes always They had that. And then eventually, they fucked that up, too. And they made Corvettes flat and looked like a wedge. They looked so stupid for a while, but now they're back. They're better looking now, I think. Like, Tony's. I think these new ones, the '25s and 26s, they're better than any other car ever, any American car. Like the Corvette ZR1, it's the greatest American car that's ever been built. Really? It's 1100 horsepower.

I don't know shit about it.

Oh, Brian Simpson, you ready to look at this? You got one? No, I don't have one. But this is Google this. This is literally the greatest American car I ever produced by a long shot.

Corvette Z1.

Zr1. It's got a giant wing on the back of it. It's literally a race car that you can buy. It has 1,100 horsepower. Excuse me, 1,064 horsepower. This is not even tuned. Guys are going to be able to do things with these things. You're going to get these Hennessy guys.

Is this new?

Yeah. You're going to get these Hennessy guys that are going to jack up the boost and make them even faster. These things are insanely fast, insanely fast, and insanely capable. I don't know if they've got Nürburgring times on them, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's the fastest American car ever.

How much does that cost?

I think it's like $190,000.

I think they're coming to Austin soon.

Bro, this car is fucking insane. It has carbon fiber wheels. It's insane. And it's beautiful. Look at that thing. I mean, it's just a piece of art and engineering, together. It's just a piece of art and engineering together. It looks like what you'd expect from a foreign supercar, from Ferrari or McLaren or something like that. That's what it looks like. It looks incredible. I don't know how we get on the subject.

We were talking about how you remember your first car.

Oh, you remember your first car? Yeah. Fuck. Imagine your first car is this thing. Your first car should be a Miata. Everybody should drive a stick shift Miata.

But you You can buy your... Because some people get crazy and they buy their kids shit like that.

Well, it's like, I was going to get a motorcycle license at one point in time, and one of my buddies was going to get it like a Ninja. I was like, Bro, we shouldn't do that. We shouldn't just hop right on some crazy bike But you got to get comfortable with the whole deal riding a bike.

Bro, have I told you how many of my friends or family that I've had to talk out of getting a motorcycle? It's like that midlife crisis part where it's like, Hey, bro, you never rode a motorcycle. Like, you're 40, you can't start now.

I got real close, and then the universe gave me a whole bunch of signs.

Because even the best riders in the world will lay that bike down. So it's like, you out here, you haven't ridden a bike ever or in 25 years. It's like, you're going to get fucked up out there.

You ever see the one when the dude is flying down a country road, he hits a deer? No. Oh, this dude is like, on one of those race bikes. And boom. Flying through the air.

I saw one the other day where it was the other way around. It was like the end of a parade or something. And there were girls on the street and this guy... A bunch of motorcycles went by, but only one girl got hit.

Oh, God.

But it was like...

Oh, God.

Oh, man.

Oh, vehicles.

Yeah, but you can't- So you didn't see this thing today.

A Black Hawk helicopter collided with a American Airlines flight. Over DC. Over DC? Over DC. Yeah. And they plunged into the Potomac, and everybody's dead. And there's a video of it. There's a fireball in the sky. The helicopter collides right with the plane, it explodes in the sky. Watch this. Boom. They explode and collide in the sky. And then this is the plane. Oh, man. It's crazy. And it's only... I mean, there's nothing fortunate about it, but it's fortunate that it landed in the river and then it didn't land on apartment buildings and kill a bunch more people. Man. I don't even know how that happens. I've never heard of something like that happening. And then where did the helicopter emanate from? Where did it come from, Jamie? Probably Andrews. Because this is a military helicopter.

Andrews Air Force, basically, I'm guessing.

I don't understand how that's possible. I don't get it, but I don't know anything about flying.

Man, you know what? Honestly, man, it comes close to happening a lot.

Fuck. That's so crazy that a military helicopter collides with an American Airlines jet.

I don't think it was some malfunction. It probably was bad communication. Somebody got wrong information.

Yeah, maybe. Unless we find out that someone was on that jet. Like someone who had like some gravity drive scientist. Some fucking dude is at the forefront of quantum computing. He's got a laptop with him that he's trying to deliver to somebody in Saudi Arabia.

This is why I checked out, bro. Because it's so hard to take everything serious because we live in such a ridiculous time. The chances are more than zero that what you said is the case just now. Right. More than zero. It's like, We live in a ridiculous... We don't trust anything. I don't. So it's like, That could be somebody... Because my next thought shouldn't be, I wonder if somebody important was on that jet.

The other thought was that you can control those helicopters remotely. You don't have to have pilots. No, bullshit. No way. You can.

You can fly a helicopter remotely. Yes.

They use artificial intelligence now not just to fly helicopters, partners, but also to fly jets. When they use jets that are controlled by artificial intelligence versus jets that are controlled by the best pilots we have, the jets can control by artificial intelligence win dog fights 100 % of the time.

Yeah, but they going to fuck. I mean, listen, because all I have to judge this- This is the tinfoil.

We're putting on some tinfoil.

Yeah, but all I have to judge my artificial intelligence is the Google Gemini and ChatGPT, and they be fucking shit up. Yeah, but this It's just consumer-grade.

It's promaganda. This is consumer-grade shit that didn't exist a while ago. You want some coffee? No, I'm good. And exists now. So here it is. Black Hawk remote control demos have been performed by Sikorsky Aircraft and Lockheed Martin to demonstrate the ability to remotely control a Black Hawk helicopter. These demos have shown the potential for autonomous flight and the ability to perform missions without a pilot.

Okay, but here's the other thing, though.

But this is the thing. If it's such a super sophisticated piece of equipment, if it is being piloted by a person, how do they not have sensors that detect where the planes are? How is that even possible? That you could be in a place where planes are flying 500 miles an hour, left and right, all over the place, landing and taking off, and you're going to fly through that and you don't know where the planes are? That seems insane. That doesn't even seem possible because how could you exist as a military aircraft if you don't have a comprehensive analysis of everything that's around you all the time. We have sensors. We put them on jets. Why wouldn't we put sensors on the helicopter?

They probably do have them.

Why didn't it work?

We're going to find out pretty soon. Will we even know?

Or we'll never find out. But everybody's dead, right? How do you know when everybody's dead? They think the pilots are dead of the helicopter. I believe there supposed to be two people in the helicopter? Four? Three? Three people in the helicopter? Was it 60 or 70 people? 60 people in the plane are dead.

Damn, only 60 people on a flight?

Small flight. Mostly a figure-skating team? Figure-skating? Fuck, man.

Oh, yeah. Because that's the thing I was saying. It would have to be a group of people. Because if they just wanted to take out one person, why waste a helicopter? There's better ways to kill one person.

Yeah. Well, also, you want the worst press possible. Kill a plane filled with young figure skaters. The sweetest, most delicate people. Like, twirling rolling around on the ice. When we think of them, they're almost like super humans. We don't even want to think of it. That's why when that Tonya Harding, Nancy Kerrigan shit went down, nobody even wanted to believe it's possible. The figure skating community has got thugs. Remember that? Yeah. The figure skating community tries to take out people by breaking their knees?

And that shit was ripe for comedy for five years.

Yeah.

People get vicious about shit, man. People get vicious. But here's the other thing. It might just be incompetence.

Most likely it's incompetence.

Somebody was just fucked up.

Most likely someone made a mistake. Most likely. But in this day and age, when you know about things that have happened, you know about false flags, you know I've heard all kinds of shit that happens, you always got to wonder. And if we do find out, here's a worst case scenario. What if a foreign government has figured out a way to hack in to our equipment and they can get a helicopter to fly right into plane?

This was a test run?

What if this is proof of concept?

See, I think a better conspiracy would be if we found out that it was like Delta was behind it.

You know what I mean? Delta is trying to take out American Airlines?

Or like Alaska was like, Yo, we're going to fucking ruin their reputation.

But if you were a foreign country and you wanted to demonstrate that you have technical superiority over people, how would you do it? Well, first of all, you'd lay the groundwork, right? This is one thing they definitely did, right? Where's that lighter, bro? With it? Thank you, sir. You lay the groundwork, and the groundwork is, sell them all the shit they need. Sell them all the shit they need. And some of the shit you sell them, put a little backdoor in there. Put a little backdoor in there. And they've been doing that. That's a fact. That's why Huawei was banned from the United States. They banned Huawei phones. They were the most sophisticated phones. They were coming out of China. That was so good.

That was great.

I've taught this before. Forgive me if you heard it before, but I tried to buy Porsche design Huawei phone. It was an amazing phone. It was so much more advanced than iPhone. It had a bigger battery. It had a 100-megapixel camera. And then right before it was coming out, they put the ban. And then there was all these national security concerns, and Huawei is spying on Americans, and something about their routers and their systems. They figured out there's backdoor possibilities that were engineered into these things. So they sold us cell phone towers and computer chips and all this stuff and all the components that you need to run your AI. So wouldn't it make sense that if they're a part of it, they're integrated into it physically, and we know they've put back doors on things. Wouldn't you put back doors on the stuff that you're putting into jets? Who's making that stuff? Who's making all those electronics that are inside the jets?

I think we make those.

Do you think we make the chips? Do you think we make the chips? What do we make? Do we make the hard drives? Are you sure? I don't know. I don't know. Do we make the processors?

It just seems like it would be the smart thing to do.

It would be a very smart thing to do. But do we make the processors? Or have there been installed some electronical backdoor into almost everything that we have? Almost everything we have, where anything could be taken over.

I think that it probably is the case, but it's definitely our I've never been doing it.

You know the Michael Hastings story, right? No. You don't know that story? No. This was a guy who was a journalist who was writing for Rolling Stone, and he goes over to Afghanistan. Was it Afghanistan? He goes over to Afghanistan and gets stuck there because of the volcano. So the volcano in Iceland, I think. So this volcano blows up and the sky is covered with dirt. You can't see for weeks, so you can't fly. So he can't leave there. So he gets stuck with his troop. He's embedded with these troops, and they get loose. They get loose. They start saying things. They start talking shit about Obama. The general talks shit about Obama. And then this guy puts all this in the story. And he puts all this in the story. They thought he was like one of their homies. We're just hanging out. We're just boys. He's not going to write about that. I mean, but I got wrote about all that shit. You get these 20-year-old kids. They're deployed at war. And of course, they're going to talk shit. They're kids. You get the generals hanging out with these guys. They're We're going to talk shit.

They're a bunch of men out there doing war. So he has to step down. And he, the general, is one of the most beloved generals in the military. And then this guy is terrified for his life. And he's openly said- The reporter? The reporter is terrified for his life because he's been threatened. Then he dies on... Was it Laurel Canyon? La Brea. La Brea. He dies on La Brea. Mel Rosen Highland, sorry. Mel Rosen Highland?

I'm watching the video right now, but that's- Either way.

The point is, he's in LA. He's going like 120 miles an hour, and he goes straight into a tree, and the car explodes. The car explodes, and watch how fast it goes. Look at this. He just hits the gas and boom, runs into a tree and explodes. I'd said, if anything happens, I didn't kill myself. Then the question was back then, so was this 2005? 2013. Back then, the question was, do they have the technology to take over vehicles? If you ask people that are honest, the answer is yes. They do. There's a way to do it. It's not impossible. It's not like breathing underwater. It can be done. Whether you have to get access to the actual car itself and put something in there, I I don't know.

But it can be done. That's why people... It's going to be a couple of generations before people will be down with it being fully autonomous cars. We see all these driverless cars around this motherfucker all the time. But it's like, I ain't getting in one of them motherfuckers.

Yeah, get the fuck out of here.

No way. Because if they wanted to kill you... We saw that in the new Total Recall, they did that, where it's like all the cars drive themselves, but when they want to find you, they fucking stop your car, pull you over. Fuck that.

Everybody's terrified about that. There's cars right now that they could shut off if there's a police chase. That's what Onstar does, right? If you're in one of those Corvettes, I bet that Corvette is Onstar. Is that Corvette of Onstar? So the way they sell you Onstar is they say, well, Brian, if someone steals your car, we can just shut it off. And you're like, oh, that would be good. I don't want anybody stealing my beautiful car. But The other side of that is we could also just shut it off for other reasons. We can shut it off because we don't like you, and we just decided to shut your car off.

Don't worry. It says right here that that's illegal.

You could have the wrong political opinion depending on who's in power. You want to give these people power because you don't want the other side to win. But then the problem is now you've established that the government, which is not always you, is going to have power, and they're going to just be able to shut your fucking car off. Stolen C7 Corvette, disabled remotely by police using OnStar. Yeah, they just shot them off. See? That's a happy moment. Look at that. The sad moment is you got a trunk load of meth and you're making a run for it. They just shut your car off. Right.

But imagine being a drug runner and getting all the features.

Well, the drug runners always get caught going too fast. It's the dumbest fucking thing you'll ever hear. They always get busted going like 16 miles an hour over the speed limit. What's it saying, Jamie? Mandatory. Mandatory. It comes with mandatory OnStar subscription. There's no way around it.

One of my favorite online lawyers, he always goes. His name is Bruce Rivers. But he always saying, Never commit a misdemeanor while you're committing a felony. You know? It's If you're moving cocaine, don't break the speed limit. Put on your seat belt. Yeah.

It's just the dumbest. But you get these kids that are willing to do these drug runs, and they're cocky, and they're probably using. So they're probably taking a little amphetamines while they're driving They're having to stay sharp, Brian. Can't get sleepy behind the wheel. And they're probably not the most reliable people anyway. They're literal drug runners. What they're doing can get them locked up for the rest of their fucking life, and they're probably going to make $2,000 for doing this.

Yeah, and I have some cool stories.

Who's going to make the money? They're probably doing it for somebody else. They're probably moving it for somebody, and they have to sell it, and then they get a piece, and then they keep doing it. And they just have to hope they don't get arrested. And then they do it a few times. You get a little cocky. I mean, someone's bringing all this shit in. How's it getting in? If you're a cop and you're just out there looking around all the... How many of these moving trucks have fentanyl in them?

I think the CIA bringing most of it.

A bit of it, for sure.

Because who stops selling drugs when they get away with it? Nobody. Why would they stop doing that? Now they just know how to not get caught.

Well, maybe they probably work with people.

Because please believe, if we really, really wanted to stop drugs, it would be extreme, but we could, but we don't want to.

It would be too hard. You'd have to take away too much freedom from people. They wouldn't stand for it, and they'd vote you out of office.

I'm talking about to stop it from coming in the country.

Yes, you could stop it from coming in the country, but you're not going to stop a demand. The real problem is, just like the Prohibition of alcohol, and I'm not comparing meth with alcohol Because I think most people that I know responsibly use alcohol. They take a few drinks. I know a bunch of people who have abused it. I know a bunch of people had to stop drinking. But most guys that we're friends with, you have a drink, you guys want to do a shot? Let's do a And then you go do your show. No one's getting drunk every night.

You know what I mean? I rarely see anybody drunk.

But if you're out there doing meth, there's a chance you're not engaging in responsible meth use. There's a good chance. If you're using meth, you're going hard.

I'm just microdosing.

No, no one ain't microdosing meth. They're going hard. I think meth gets you to go hard. You're listening to fucking Slayer in your car, and you're fired up, and you're making bad decisions.

Yeah, I mean, you definitely just not thinking. You're just doing.

But what is Adderall? Adderall is super close to meth. Super close.

It's an amfetamine, for sure.

Yeah, it's not the same, but it's...

It's in the hunt. People do You have shit on that shit, too.

Especially if you take a lot of it. If you take a lot of it, it might as well be meth. People abuse the shit out of everything. You tell them to take one, they're going to take five or six.

I think the biggest problem is most people's lives suck so bad that drugs is their only That's true, too. Because that's instant happiness. That's true. Because you know what's so funny is, I think a lot of people assume that most of the homeless people on the street are homeless because they had a drug problem. But it's usually the other way around. They usually are fine when they hit the street and they start using drugs because what else the fuck you're going to do? Where else you're going to get happiness from? You're not warm, you're not safe.

Well, there's probably a bunch of different scenarios scenarios there, but a lot of it has to do with drug use, and a lot of it has to do with self-medicating. A lot of those people are just severely mentally ill and really should be in some an institution.

People are never going to stop getting high.

No, they're not going to. I'm smoking a cigar right now.

I don't know what the solution is. Oh, just legalize everything. I don't know that either. I would have said that five years ago. Maybe that is the ultimate solution, but the way it's implemented, because I think they tried that in Seattle or Portland or something. Yeah, they had to stop it. Yeah. But they also just went from what we're doing now to just everything's legal.

Yeah, but they also... It's Portland. They're ridiculous. Those people are ridiculous. That was Seattle, right? No. Was it Portland or Seattle? Which one was it? It was Oregon that legalized everything, right?

Yeah, I think you're right.

I think it was Oregon. Yeah, it was Oregon. So it was Portland. Portland is ridiculous. They're ridiculous. So if you just say you can just do drugs wherever you want, just do whatever you want. Everything's legal now. Everyone's just going to be brazen about it. You've got a culture that was demonized for so long. And you have a culture of mental illness where people are looking for something to get them out of this rut that they're in. And the only thing that makes them feel good is fentanyl or oxycodone or whatever the fuck they're taking. Whatever that shit that makes you lean over. What's that stuff? It's a lot of shit to do that. The stuff that they're doing yoga in the street? Trank. Trank? Whatever the fuck they're doing. These people, they're trying to escape, right? And the idea that you just leave them, they're obviously severely mentally ill. If we spend money on people with illness, why don't we spend money on people with mental illness? It seems like if you want to support Medicaid, shouldn't you support mass medical assistance to most of these people? Because a lot of them are probably severely mentally ill and unmedicated.

And maybe they can be helped. Maybe someone can take them into an institution.

There's somebody calling you a socialist right now in a common sense.

I am in a lot of ways. I am with some things, like the fire department. I think the fire department is a very socialist idea. We're all going to put our money into this one group of people that's going to act in the best interests of the entire community and put out fires everywhere, regardless of who's got money or doesn't. If you're a poor person and you live on this block and your house catches on fire, they don't say, We're not going to put that fire out. We're only going to put the big guy's fire out. No, the fucking house gets on fire, everybody agrees that fire needs to get put out, so the fire people move. You spend your tax dollars on that.

See, that's how I feel about health care.

It's true. That's a good way to look at it.

It's like, imagine the fire department could deny you when your house was burning.

See, the problem is they're already making so much money doing it the way they're doing it now, and they've got a really good system. If I was a business person involved in that system, not just a human being with ethics and morals, I would say this is the way to do it because this is the way we're going to make the most money. Yeah. But people are tired of it. That's why people were cheering when that guy got shot, which is fucked up.

Here's the truth of the matter. Some shit just can't be for profit. If we want it to be for the best, some stuff can't be for profit.

The thing about that guy shooting that person that's the most disturbing. It wasn't just that a lot of people cheered for it, but the most disturbing was that people weren't mad. They weren't outraged. They didn't treat it like a regular assassination. It was like an assassination where he deserved it. It didn't It didn't seem like a bad... Even though people were like, That was horrible. It didn't seem like as bad a thing as if someone shot John Lennon. You know what I mean? Or not even a famous person. If someone just randomly shot some executive as he was walking out You know how I reacted the same way when they got Osama bin Laden.

I was like, it's the same to me.

Really?

Yeah. Because think about it- You feel like that insurance guy was Osama bin Laden? No, but I mean, they both are indirectly directly responsible for the death of how many Americans, except he was doing it for profit. Osama was doing it for the love of the game or whatever.

I do think it's a corporate capture issue because I think the culture of the Corporation is to make as much money as possible and deny more people than the other insurance companies do. They had a higher rate of denying.

You can't let people's grandmas die and let them stay in pain and shit and then expect them to have empathy for you.

Did you ever see that one video? I think we played on the podcast where this woman talked about how she made a decision to deny someone care that they definitely needed, and she was thanked by the company, and then the guy wound up dying. And she knows that she could have given him the life-saving care, she could have approved it. And she was rewarded for not approving it. They were like, you did the right thing. So that's the culture is not about... See what we're talking about earlier. It's not really about health care. Health care is the arena in which they're playing their game. But the real game is the people behind the scenes that are trying to make money. And especially if you're doing something that is not... You don't have a lot of... It doesn't give you a lot of meaning to deny people health care. It doesn't give you a lot of meaning. You don't feel like you have a meaningful life. Those people guarantee you they get addicted to material stuff. They get addicted to getting a nice Rolex. I want to get the newest Rolex. I want to get a fucking Ferrari.

And you also got to... It got to switch up your whole ethic.

You got to somehow or another placate yourself, whether it's with drugs or with buying a new purse, something. You need new stuff. You're not going to live in a fucking log hut in the woods if you're living like that. You're not going to be interested didn't start your own fire and reading books by candlelight. Shut the fuck up. You're doing cocaine and you're trying to buy a house.

You're surrounded by people that they're impressed by the shit you're doing, too.

They probably all Medicaid. Everybody's on probably something that allows them to not freak out all the time, some anti-anxiety medication because of what they're doing. And then they don't feel fulfilled in life. You don't feel like it's a good relationship between you and the way you make money and the way you interact with people.

No, I don't think they feel guilty. I mean, some people might feel guilty afterwards.

I don't think they feel bad. I think they're medicated. I bet. Yeah, I bet you have anxiety when you're doing stuff like that. You probably need SSRI. Probably need something.

But it's like the easiest person to lie to is yourself. So it's like, you probably feel like shit. You get that first paycheck and you start twisting shit so you could justify it. Like, well, somebody would do this.

And you also realize, hey, the rest of the public, they don't know. They don't know. That's just the insurance business. That's the business.

This is standard. Standard is a word they use a lot when they're trying to fuck you.

People looked at it very differently than someone just shooting some other person. They almost looked at it It felt like he deserved it.

It wasn't bipartisan. That's what I mean. That was the wildest thing about the whole thing. It was like, you couldn't tell by any other information from anybody how they felt about it. I just felt nothing, honestly.

It was weird, too, because it gave a lot of liberal grifters the opportunity to celebrate someone getting shot and murdered violently, which should be the complete opposite of the way they view violent crime. They should think of violence as being the last resort. Violence is abhorrent. Violence is not a part of a civilized society. We want kindness and compassion. We want people to be able to live their life. You don't want violent murders on the street if you are a Progressive. But a lot of progressives were cheering when this guy got murdered, which just shows how many grifters and hypocrites there are.

Because for me, it just depends on who got murdered. I'm not rooting for a murderer, But if certain people die, I'm like, well, you know.

Well, I don't even know what this guy's relationship to that guy was. I don't know why he wanted to kill him, specifically.

And they haven't said, specifically. I mean, there's a lot of speculation about was it a family member or he had a back surgery that screwed him up. But like I said, I only get the news that rises that's forced in my face because I don't watch any of the channels.

To me, it's different than, let's say, some Iraq war veteran assassinated Dick Cheney. That, to me, makes more sense. That one makes more sense. Here's a guy who knows that this guy engineered this thing where they lied about weapons of mass destruction, led us into a war that ultimately wind up killing who knows how many people.

But I think Dick Cheney would have got a better reaction than this guy.

You think people would have been sad that Dick Cheney got shot? Well, they would have thought it's very dangerous because whenever a vice president gets shot, everybody feels vulnerable.

I think that's something that you can partisanize. I think it's something you can make partisan. But like I said, that's what This was special. That's what's special about this is- Everybody got fucked over by a change. Everybody got fucked over. There's people that love Dick Cheney, or there's people that still hold those politics from back then.

I don't know if anybody loved Dick Cheney. That's why it was really crazy when Dick Cheney endorsed Kamla, and they were all like, Yeah, what What are you talking about? What? That guy? What?

You forgot? Yeah, but I just mean, I don't think he is as hated as... I mean, the truth is, nobody knew that CEO's name before this, but the whole business is hated. So it's like, then he became the face of that. And it's definitely apolitical. I don't know a single person that hasn't had an issue with health insurance.

Yeah, Wow. Well, again, it's a business. It's a business designed to make money, and all of them want to make... They have an obligation. They need to make more money next quarter. What can we do? What can we do? They start denying people. If you're using AI, specifically to deny people, let's make this more efficient.

Is that what's happening now?

I don't know if that's true, but I've read it. I've read it that some insurance companies are using AI to deny more claims than ever. See if that's true. I wouldn't be shocked. Would you be shocked? If you're a company and you're trying to make the most money and you find out that there's software that allow you to make more money and all you care about is making money, you're not really caring about health care. You don't want people to feel... If you did, you'd say, We should all make less money and give out more money to these people. We could accept more claims and we would have a much healthier world and we would feel better karmically. Wouldn't that be nice if they thought like that? You'd have to own the company. You'd have to be like a guru, like a really calm, peaceful guru and you would own the company and just have an ethical insurance company and not give anybody stake in it. Don't let anybody try to juice the system because they want to make more money.

Like not a public company.

Exactly. Stay private. Stay private.

Don't you think the type of person that would even want to make an insurance company. I think you would have to be a certain type.

Yeah, you have to be a cycle.

I should profit from suffering somehow.

Yeah, I should. Well, you're gambling, right? You're gambling that something doesn't happen to you that's more expensive than all the payments you give me every month for 10 years.

Because I think if you start heading in that direction of ethical health care, eventually you're going to arrive at, Oh, there shouldn't be health insurance. It should just cost what it costs.

Well, it should probably be the same way we treat the fire department. But if we're going to do that and people say, What about all these people that are obese? What about all these people that are eating bad food? We got to educate our society. We have to think of ourselves as a community, as a collective community, educate ourselves, and health care should be something that's paid for by the government. Insurance companies use artificial intelligence to automatically deny claims, which you can raise concerns about bias and inaccuracies, which can raise concerns about bias and inaccuracies. If your claim is denied by AI, you can take steps to understand your rights and challenge the denial. Keep records. Document all correspondence with your insurer, including denial letters and any communication about AI. Lawyer can help you understand your rights and determine if the denial was made in bad faith. Like, you're fucked. Yeah, for most Those people, especially people that work all day and you're dealing with this shit, you're fucked.

I think this is in California.

Landmark law prohibits health insurance companies from using AI to deny health care coverage. All right. That's great. Especially using it specifically to deny. So that's California. That's a great law. The whole country should adopt that.

Using AI to deny.

Yeah. I really think that the problem is that there's been a long history of profit for health care, and that they go into it to profit. And the The real problem with that is, but you also want the best surgeons, right? You want the best doctors, and they have to be motivated. And most of them are motivated both by excelling in their practice and also by material possessions that reward them. Doctors always have a Porsche. Doctors have a Mercedes. Doctors have a nice house. You should be a doctor, Brian. You should be a doctor. A nice doctor. Doctors make a lot of money. But they also have a fuckload of bills, and they have a fuckload of Okay, so they have... The problem with them is liability insurance. Liability insurance for malpractice insurance for doctors is crazy expensive.

But don't doctors still make good money in countries?

They do, but they're constantly moving people in and out of their office because they got a fucking heavy nut to cover every month. Yes, United Health is facing multiple class action lawsuits over its use of algorithms, its investment practices, and its treatment of patients, algorithm used claim processing. United Health is facing a class action lawsuit over the algorithm it uses to process claims. Yeah. Yeah. Monsters. Monsters. But this is also because we've set up a system of profit. Now, imagine if that system of profit existed for the fire department. Imagine if you had to pay fire department fees every month, and if you didn't and your house burned, they go, Hey, Brian, we just checked, and you don't have fire coverage. Now you're fucked. That sounds That's crazy. You can't get it or something to make money. That's crazy, right? Yeah. I haven't seen it happen. So we agree that the fire department should be a socialist organization. Yeah. Okay. Why not health care?

Yeah, that's how I feel.

But then the problem is, Dr. Fucking Grossman, he wants a Ferrari. The baddest motherfucker for fixing knees. He fixes everybody's knees on the Lakers. He wants some money. Give him a Ferrari. He's the best. Yeah, but the problem with that is, how How much does everybody get paid? Does the government just pay everybody the same way they're getting paid now, or does it become a government job, like you're a state-appointed defense attorney?

It becomes like the NFL.

You know what I'm Like not as motivated as some super high power defense attorney that handles huge cases and knows the law inside. You know what I'm saying? It's like who's going to fix you now? Because my friends in Canada, they say, Yeah, health care is free. But one of my friends, she wait. My friend Jen, she had to wait a year plus to get an ACL surgery. And it's all fucked up still. So for this ACL surgery, she's waiting a whole year to get her knee fixed. I hope I'm not speaking out of school. I'm pretty sure it was close to a year. She's got a bad knee for a year. Whereas in America, you're supposed to be able to go to the doctor. The doctor says, your health care is up. You definitely tore your ACL, Brian. Okay, well, good news is you're covered. You have a deductible, but this is your deductible. Okay, we can schedule for February 16th. This is what we need you to do. No aspirin, no this, no that. Don't eat within eight hours you get here because you're going to go under. They tell you they prep you for surgery.

Or they tell you all of that, and then they go, Oh, actually, you're not covered. Because you didn't tell us about this thing from... Yeah, the Eagler. Okay, well, I still need the surgery and I don't have $50,000. It's like, that's the shitty part. Yeah, because there's some people that they are healthy and they take care of themselves and they pay their insurance and then they get a tumor or something unforeseen.

Yes, 100 %.

And they're completely fucked. They're completely fucked. And it's like, that shouldn't be possible.

Well, how about this fire insurance deal in California?

What happened?

A giant percentage of those people that lost their homes in that fire, they didn't have insurance. These insurance companies pulled out a fire coverage.

Why? Oh, bro, did you also know there's fires? The same thing is happening in South America and Africa. Really? Yeah, just whole place is burning the fuck down. I'm shocked that I'm not hearing more about that because I only- Here's the thing about the fires.

There's satellite video of those fires, all three of them starting at the same time. Have you ever seen it?

No.

It's super suspicious.

Super, super suspicious. There's satellite footage of all the three fires starting at the same time.

Simultaneously. Yeah. You want to see it? Yeah. You I'm excited to see it because it's so creepy. I think it was arson. I think somebody did it. Whether it was a schizophrenia person, a fire bug. There's a lot of those people that are fire bugs, man. There's people that are like actual arsonists. When you get into the conditions that happened in the Santa Ana winds when California's dry. You remember when it was? You were there in 2018 with that big crazy fire, right? Did you see any of that on the 405?

Yeah.

It was insane.

Yeah. I remember there being a big one, probably like 2007, 2002 or 2008?

The thing is, it doesn't have to be some crazy conspiracy. People think it's a conspiracy, a land grab, this whole thing. Maybe, but also people start fires. It's a known crime. In fact, one of the people that they arrested, he had a fake fire truck. So this dude was a known arsonist, I believe from Oregon. He bought a fire truck with a fireman's outfit and was going into these areas. That's actually hilarious. And he's an arsonist. So he's probably starting fires.

He's an arsonist with a fire truck.

How crazy is that? But some people are just out of their fucking minds, man, including a lot of firemen. That's a problem with firemen. There's been firemen who have started fires.

But it's wild that you... I feel like if you go to prison for arson, you purposely burn a shit, if they let you out, they should at least track you like they track pedos.

Well, you've killed a lot of people. If If a human being was caught that definitely lit these three fires that appear simultaneously, if a human being did that, they're responsible for I don't know how many deaths. How many people died? I think it's 25 or something like that. Yeah. 25 burned alive. How much damage? How many people are going to die later? The damage? Sure. You're in jail for the rest of your life for everything. For the damage. You're in jail for the rest of your life. You owe $350 billion in counting. It's $350 billion of damage. And then Altadina is gone.

And are they still having the Grammys or whatever?

I don't know. They probably are. Well, we did the UFC there. We did the UFC in the middle of the fires. Oh, wow. I didn't think we were going to do it. I was like, Are we going to do it here? And Dana was like, We're going to do it. The Clippers are going to play there on, I forget what day, but earlier in the week. And if the Clippers play, we're going to do it. Otherwise, they were going to do Vegas. They were just going to move everybody to Vegas if it got worse because they keep starting. New ones start. Oh, it's not over? No. There's one It ends up in Santa Clarita. Somebody started one up there or something started one up there. The 2018, they know it was an accident because they know there was a part, a part that cost $1. That one part failed and it started a fire. A $1 part.

Yeah, I think we're going to see more and more of this. It's getting hot and dry.

Well, they have to fix it. They have to fix it. You have to clean up the brush. You have to do what they did with the water, where they opened up the water from the north to come flow freely down to the south and not divert it into the Pacific Ocean. To fill up the reservoir that you had that was 11 million gallons that was empty, you fucking psychos. What are you doing? You clearly haven't taken the right steps if that can happen. It can be at least mitigated. You're always going to have those crazy wins. You're always going to have arsonists. You're always going to have things that fuck up or something starts a fire accidentally.

Don't they do all that shit? Don't they do control burns and all that stuff every year?

Fact check, old satellite footage, falsely linked to 2025 have LA Wildfires? Yes, it's saying- So what is that video of three fires starting simultaneously? Because people were saying it was the California fires. Is this the video? I don't know.

It looks like it. It's just a picture, but this is from Four is fires. These fires are in a different spot than the ones that just happened.

So I don't know if that's the one. It's hard to say. This is the caption from the-So it's miscaptioned. So it's not true. What about the one where it shows a person starting the fire? Because there is one video where they think that they have an actual image of a guy starting the fire.

I think it was a person near it, but I'll double check.

Whips, just happened to be near it with a blowtorch. How about that guy? They caught that one guy, and he's like, I was just light in my joint. He had a blow torch in his hand, and they made a citizen's arrest.

Yeah, but he might have been telling the truth.

No, dude had been arrested eight times. He had vandalism, all kinds of shit on his resume. Violent crimes, I believe. That don't mean he was lying. Well, he was running around in a fire with a blow torch. Hey, bro, put that down.

How are you going to light your shit?

A lighter? He said he couldn't afford a lighter. Bitch, a lighter is a quarter.

Yeah, that's wild. I mean, that's why Just to carry a blow torch around.

How much is a lighter? How much is one of them little Bic lighters? A dollar? Is that a dollar? Yeah, like a dollar.

Maybe it's probably a dollar 20 something.

See, if it's made in America, it's going to cost more. All right? That's why China is going to chop off our fucking supply of Bics. Who makes Bicks?

Am I guessing? See, in my head, I was thinking, you in the house, you can't find a lighter. So you're like, I got a torch. I'm going to just use that. I'm going to run around the streets. But you're saying he was walking around outside.

They found him out where the fires were with a blow torch, and he said it was empty. He said, Google, it's empty.

It's like, even if you're telling the truth, your stupid ass deserve just the inconvenience.

Yeah, it was a criminal. What was I just going to ask you to Google?

I'm trying to find a picture of the satellite of a person near the fire when it started.

Huberman filmed people starting fires. Andrew Huberman. He was driving down the street and he caught these guys starting a fire and filmed it, put it on his phone. People are starting fires here because you got all these homeless people and crazy people and people that want to burn it all down, man. And while the fire is going on, they feel like, Fuck it, man. Let's help this fucking fire. Fuck these rich people. I mean, it's the Palisades. They're the richest people in all of LA.

You think that's their motivations?

Yeah, I think a lot of that for the arsonists. I think a lot of it is like, Fuck society, my life sucks. I think a lot of people just... There's crazy people like the guy from Oregon that are almost like amateur firefighter Like an amateur arsonist. That's their side project.

Did you see Shapel talk about it on his SNL monolog? I didn't. Man, it's the best one ever.

Yeah.

Easy.

I know. I need to sit down and watch it. Everybody tells me it's awesome.

It's the best monolog I've ever seen on SNL.

Well, he talks about Palestine. He compares Palestine to...

Yeah, he pretty much went through-Palestades. Went through all the major things that's going on.

The Palestine thing is nuts. I watched a video yesterday of Gaza, and I don't know if you've seen flyover drone footage of what it looks like now? Nope. You want to see it?

Yeah, let's see it.

Or do you want to live your life from those color glasses?

No, I want to see it because like I said, I never see shit like this.

It's crazy. You shouldn't go looking for it. Good. I won't send it to you anymore.

No, I don't mind people send me the news, but I just don't actively go seek it out. This is so depressing. Because I'm like, if it's something I need to know, somebody will tell me about it.

There's a lot of before and after videos where they show someone driving down a road before and they show what it all looks like now. It's like the city doesn't exist anymore. It's way bigger than downtown Austin, wiped off the map. Look at this. This is crazy. So this is flying drone footage over Gaza City, and it's just everything's destroyed. It's like a nuke went off. Look at this. From the sky, when you look at it, as far as the eye can see, just destruction. Everything's got a missile hole in it. Everything's collapsed. Everything's fucked up. Every now and then, one house or one building in between is untouched. But most of it is fucking destroyed. If I was the guy who I lived next door to that house that's perfect, I'd be like, Who did you pay, motherfucker? He doesn't even get blown up once.

This is crazy. Crazy.

And this is right now, right now, and somehow we're being fed that this is the only way to do this. And then somehow I know this is acceptable to get rid of Hamas just to completely violate everybody. The number of people that are dead now is off the charts. They don't even know many.

Bro, this looks insane.

Insane. Insane. It's insane. And it's happening right now.

This is how it used to look?

. This is what it used to look like. Look at that. Shops and cars. And now it's just just destroyed. Everything destroyed. They bombed the fuck out of everything.

Bro, this shit make you feel something.

Well, this is never coming back. They essentially moved everybody out of there. Who's going to stay there now?

What is all of this? What is all of this? What is that?

What is all of this? Tents. Tents where people have to stay in tents. And by the way, they might bomb those tents, too. The whole thing is very scary, dude, because it's just at a level of destruction that's impossible to say that you support it. It's like, this is insane. These are human lives. How many people are dying here? Is this the only way to do this? Is this the only way to do this? This seems crazy. Yeah. And how did you guys get to this point?

See, man, this is why I avoid the news. It's because all the stupidest people I know are happy as shit. So I'm like, I just need to know less. And I can enjoy.

I think there's something to that, but I think we need to pay attention nowadays. I think things are getting real weird. Real weird.

Because you know what is, it's the death of truth. It's hard to know what's true. You hear something, it sounds true, and then you hear something else, go, That's not true. And then both can point you the links and studies, and you're like, I... It's just stressful trying to figure out what's correct and That isn't- Yeah, that's on purpose.

I know. That's on purpose. They're doing a real good job of confusing people. That's when I- And everybody thinks they're right. Everybody thinks they're right, yeah. And there's also a lot of stuff that's going behind the scenes. A lot of the way stories are amplified is to serve as a distraction from other things that are taking place at the same time. They love to do stuff like that where they'll push out a story, like some inflammatory story. They're really the design of that story is to get you distracted from other things that are going on simultaneously. That's what I think a lot of this when I think about the UFO stuff, I'm always like, Man, if I wanted something to distract the shit out of people, this is a really good one. Not saying that that's what they're doing, but it makes me- Did you see the science of a discovery yesterday? No, you were about to tell me at the beginning.

They found an asteroid. Oh, I did see this. And it had most of the ingredients for life on. Yes. All the amino acids, not all of them, but all the three. And then all of... I forget what the big ass word this lady used. But I think this was a theory before, but it's becoming more and more likely that life was seeded by-Asteroid impact.

An asteroid or something. Yeah. That's a theory called Panspermia.

Panspermia?

Yeah. It also accounts for some things that don't fit in, like carbon mushrooms. There's something very alien about them. One of the things about spores is that spores can survive like almost anything. They could survive in a vacuum. They could survive through space. Spores are insanely durable. If you have the potential for all of these amino acids and different minerals, and there was absolutely salt on that, right? Wasn't there salt on that rock as well?

I don't know. Let me see.

I think there was a bunch of different elements of life on that asteroid. And why not spores? And if some mushroom that grows on another planet where these human beings interact with nature through it, and then it just lands here on Earth.

Did you find it? Osiris-rex mission. So they found amino acids, nucleotide bases, minerals from saltwater, and more.

So that means it has all the building blocks of life, and it comes from saltwater, and a chunk of it comes flying off. Isn't that nutty? That's how a lot of things... They think that's maybe how the water got here. That's one of the theories. That's an asteroid. Yeah, that like, comets. A comet, yeah. That comets hit us, and that's where we got the water. Is that a real theory still? Because they change those. They look at them, they go, Well, maybe. Now they're wondering whether dark energy is real. They think maybe time moves differently in between galaxies. They've got some new theory. Yeah, I've heard...

I think I heard Neil deGrasse talk about that recently.

All of it is like, what are you even saying?

Or Or that gravity is different in different places, something like that?

They think that gravity and space-time moves differently in the voids in between galaxies and planets.

Wait a minute. Who's saying that?

Who's saying that? What are you saying?

That's what I'm saying, bro.

They're thinking that's what accounts for the-I just need to know less because it's breaking my brain. That's why they're apart from each other. It's not that dark energy is pushing them away from each other. I don't know. Because this is the theory of dark matter and dark energy. It's like 90 something % of the universe is this theory. Right. So what does that mean? So if it's not that, then there's 90 % of the universe, what? It's like just space-time moving in a different way?

What happened? I mean, science has been killing it.

Well, they've got some new tools now, like that James Webb telescope. That thing's crazy.

Remember when I first told you about it hadn't launched yet? And I was like, That's going to change everything.

Well, I remember Duncan told me something about it a long time ago. He said they found something that they think is at least 22 billion years old. They found some star cluster or something that they think is 22 billion years old. So it throws the whole Big Bang thing.

Is he talking about the Methuselah Star?

No, that's interesting, too, because the Methuselah Star is actually older somehow than the entire universe, which doesn't make any sense. It's 14 plus billion years old, so it's a little bit older than what they think was the Big Bang.

But then didn't somebody recently Well, not recently, but didn't someone say that it's still within the margin of error?

Yeah, it's still within the margin. The Methuselah Star is, but not this new discovery. So the new discovery for the James Webb telescope is they found galaxies that formed too quickly. And they formed so long ago, so far away, because they could see bigger now, that it's changing. There's two things possible. Maybe we were wrong about how quickly galaxies Maybe they form way quicker, or maybe the universe is way older than we think it is. So maybe the reason why these things exist, and then you could find them. And then although there's things that blink in and that they exist at one point in time and don't exist anymore, they don't know what the fuck those are, these red lights, these red spots that they found in the universe. But they think that people are very reluctant to commit because they don't really know. But the potential is that the universe is not 14 or 13 whatever billion years old, but maybe as old as 24 billion years old.

Or maybe- The next time you come in here, I want to be in the head the next time you have one of these motherfuckers, these Lawrence Krauss.

You want to be in here with that?

Michio Cough. Yeah, because I'm fascinated by this shit.

The problem with two people talking is I got to lock in on these dudes.

I just want to listen.

Yeah, but I'd want you to chime in, too. With some of these people, you have to have one-on-one. Because even if I do two guests, It's like everybody always has something cool to say. Then someone else is talking and you're like, it's hard. It's hard to work it. When you got someone who's talking about something very esoteric, very difficult to grasp, they're talking about quantum physics. They're trying to explain to you the dynamics of these subatomic particles. It's like, what? You need one person just locked on.

Every time I hear quantum physicists talk, I never I understand everything they say.

Bro, I barely understand a fraction of what they're talking about.

Even when they're talking about other shit. Yeah.

They're operating on a different level.

Let Eric Weinstein try and give you a fucking recipe. Oh, yeah. Jesus Christ, man.

Weinstein's crazy smart in a spooky way.

I know, but he forgets how much smarter than- Right.

He'll talk to you in a way that I don't even know what you're saying.

Yeah, we're like, I don't have that degree, bro.

Yeah. Well, he has a theory theory of everything. I do not understand it at all. I don't know how many people could follow it. I don't understand it. But that person that would sit around and try to create a theory of everything? He's of the belief that potentially we're looking at US-made stuff that's super advanced and that they put a lid on it somehow.

What was the purpose of that?

Because I think if you develop something in secrecy, like they do all the time with the Stealth Bomber, all these things, even the Manhattan Project. You develop things in secrecy, and then there comes a time where you test them, you use them, you have them. But then are you going to admit you have them? Because then the enemy is going to infiltrate. They're going to find out you have them. There's espionage. They're going to steal your information. They've been doing that forever. We talked about these back doors that China has and all our electronics or potentially could have, right? How many things are vulnerable because of AI now? How many things are vulnerable because everything's attached to the Internet? How many things can be hacked? Who fucking knows? But the reality is we're in a very uniquely vulnerable position in terms of if someone did have that technology that could take over AI systems, that could kill the power grid, that could fly things through the sky autonomously that move at speeds that are impossible to imagine with conventional aircraft and can really, like you said, park it over the White House. Maybe part of what he's saying is true.

Maybe he really did write Maybe someone wrote that and it's some truth and some wacky shit to try to throw you off of the truth, which is also a strategy that gets used. When you have something that's a real conspiracy, you know what you do? You attach it to a bunch of other shit, like witchcraft, voodoo, fucking ghost, Just attach it to stupid shit.

You make it sound crazy.

Make it sound crazy. Yeah. These people came from Bigfoot is an interdimensional traveler who communicates with people telepathically. Add some stuff to it that just makes it stupid, but inside of it have the truth. They definitely do that. They do that to make people's stories seem stupid when they go and tell them to the press.

Yeah, I mean, that's what I would do if it was in my interest to keep some weird things secret. Tell people, you're just going to sound crazy.

Well, if you were like, abducted by a UFO, you're going to sound crazy.

What are you going to do? You walk in the green room and you see me changing heads. I turned around like, Oh. Have you been a robot this whole Yeah, it's like, no one will leave you.

Yeah, the new Alien Romulus. Have you seen the new one?

Oh, yeah, it was great. It's fucking great. Actually, I saw it. That was the first time I actually enjoyed one of those. I don't know. They call them 4D your D box. They got the smoke and all that shit. Oh, you went to one of those places? I saw that movie, yeah.

Oh, that's a good move.

The thing is, it's not a consistent experience yet, but that was the best one I've had so far, especially when I realized you could turn the water off because when the alien spray, some of the shit get on you and shit. It's like a spray from the ceiling. And I was like, I'm having a good time. But I don't want to get wet. But can I turn this fucking water off? But you can't. I just didn't realize it from way too long.

It was the first of these alien movies since the original that captured the spirit of the original one. The fear of going through the corridors, not knowing where that thing is, it hunting you, the way it got to those people. That was a good alien movie. I think that was the best alien movie since Alien 1, I think.

Alien 2 was like that, though.

Yeah, but Alien 2, they were too easy to kill. I didn't like how they could just gun them down.

But you're right. It was the same... I don't know, Prometheus was the same spirit.

Prometheus was pretty good. Covenant was better. I like Covenant. Covenant was really good. Michael Fassbender, he's the shit.

I didn't like Prometheus until the second time I watched it.

Oh, yeah?

Yeah, because it just wasn't what I was expecting. It's like, right. But once I saw it on its own merit, it was like, it was good.

I think Covenant's better. Prometheus is pretty good, but they had this story to tell about seeding DNA and the operators. No, no, no. You're right.

Covenant was the one where they So they landed? Yeah. Okay, yeah, that was great.

The other one was the actual humanlike aliens in their planet, and they have some war, and they all die, and this one guy comes to... Remember? These guys. Remember? That's Prometheus.

I forget what they called them.

They called them the operators? No. But it said no xenomorphs.

They didn't have a war. They were seeding other planets.

They're going to do a Prometheus, too. It says no xenomorphs in Prometheus, too. Oh, they're going to have a Prometheus, too. It's going to be old articles. I hope they do another one. Because you have a whole universe of alien possibilities now because they skip timelines and shit. This one is right after the N Ramo gets blown up, and they find it, and they find the dude. You saw it. It's fucking good.

Well, you know what was dope about Aliens 1 and... What was the one? Prometheus?

No, no. Aliens 2? The latest one. God, what did I call it?

Romulus. What they had in common was the protagonist didn't know what they were dealing with. Right. So that's what made it more exciting. Right.

Because it was right afterwards. So people hadn't known yet.

Yeah. And and all the other aliens after that. Sipone, he was like, I know exactly how to deal with these moments.

Exactly. Right. Get away from her, you bitch.

Please believe me.

Yeah. When she's got the fucking robot suit on. I didn't like that either. That thing would fuck her up in that robot suit.

And then wasn't there one where she gave birth to one? Yeah.

Ségorny Weaver was probably the first woman that was the badass in the lead of a science fiction action movie, and it was 1979.

Bro, speaking of which, Charlize Theron, it's a movie on Netflix. I have no idea why it wasn't bigger. But it's called... She's Immortal. Can you look it up? She's Immortal? Yeah, she leads this team of Immortals, and they're mercenaries or whatever.

So it's like a superhero movie?

Kind of. Old Guard? Old Guard. It's good as shit.

Really? Yeah.

Really? She's real good at playing like a badass. She played Furiosa. She killed that shit.

Well, she also played Eileen Wernos, that serial killer bitch.

Yeah, she don't fuck around.

She's a beautiful woman. She gained like 50 fucking pounds to play that person. Really? Yeah, she got fat, shaved her eyebrows off, looked disgusting. Charlie's Thrawn is beautiful. It's like stunningly good looking. I've seen her in person. Then you see what she looked like in that movie. Like, the courage that it takes to do that. Let me see it. I didn't see it. You never saw Monster?

Bro. I've seen Monster.

Monster's a great fucking movie. Shout out to my friend Patty Jenkins, who made it. But that movie was like, no ladies do that. Robert De Niro did that. Marky Marks done that. Stallone got fat for a movie. They'll do that. But for her, bro, crazy. And she looks just like that lady.

No, but I didn't see this. I was mixing this up with another movie called Look, I Pissed On Your Grave or something. What? Yeah, there's a revenge movie called I Pissed On Your Grave.

I was telling you before, you know what's good? It's Nosferado.

I'm going to go watch her. I'm going to download it for the plane, actually.

I'm saying it right now. It's the best vampire movie ever. The best vampire movie ever.

That's a big statement.

That's a big statement. I'm saying it. It's the best vampire movie ever. It's the creepiest vampire movie ever.

So you're saying it's better than Blade?

Blade was awesome. But Blade was a superhero movie.

More that it was a- Because you don't count Blade as a vampire movie?

It was a vampire movie in that the superhero had to kill the vampires, but it's a Marvel comic guy. I'd known Blade since I was a teenager. I was into Marvel comics.

So Blade's a vampire movie the way that Die Hard is a Christmas movie.

Yeah, Blade was a badass martial artist who was half vampire who was fucking up vampires. He was the Day Walker. It's a fun superhero movie more than anything.

But the movie wasn't really about the vampire?

Yeah, right? It was like they were the enemy and he was the good guy. That was the movie. The movie was essentially revenge. They killed Riddler. Oh, shit.

What about what's the one, the teenage heartthrobby one that ruined it?

Oh, twilight? Yeah, that's bullshit.

But do you consider those vampire movies?

Yeah, those are vampire movies. They're fun. If you're a girl, there's a lot of stuff that girls like that I don't like. I don't have to like it for it to be good. Obviously, it made hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars. People love those movies.

But I'm not one of those people that's like, it doesn't have to be good for me to like it because there's a lot of people that like bad movies. I can't get with it.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of watching bad movies, but Nosferado is good. This is the trailer for Nosferatu?

Yeah.

It's really good, dude. It's really good. For real, if you like a good old fashioned hard vampire movie, and the dude who plays Count Orlock is the dude who played Pennywise in It. Oh, wait. It's the best vampire ever. They're probably not going to show you anything in the trailer, what he looked like. But holy shit, dude, there's this one scene where you get to see his whole body naked when he rises up out of the coffin. It's insane. And not just creepy, but beautifully shot.

Oh, I remember seeing previews for this.

Oh, dude, it's good. It's good. It's good. And they're not going to even show you. Even in the trailer, they don't show you the vampire. When you do get to see the dude, it's incredible. That's not real. That is like some fan-made shit. There's a video where you could see him. Google Orlok.

So much of the shit on the internet is bullshit.

I'll try not to spoil it for Brian.

What? What he looks like?

It's a big reveal in the movie.

I don't know. Really? But it's based on the image, the way he looks is based on the original legend of Dracula, which was a guy named Vlad the Impaler. Oh, he was real? Yeah. This is what he looks like in this. But you got to it. This is a very toned-down version of it. It's incredible. If you like a good scary horror movie, it's the best vampire movie. I love a reveal. It's a great reveal. It's really good. They drag it out. You get to see them in the beginning, and then eventually you get to really see them, and you're like, Oh, my God.

This isn't my take. I've heard other people talk about it like this, but that's the other thing that made Alien great was you don't always show the monster.

Exactly. Exactly.

Because horror is seeing the monster and how much it's going to definitely kill you. Yes. But terror is knowing that there's some shit in here and I don't know what the fuck it is. You need a little foreplay. Yeah, it's like, I walk in.

Before you get horror-fired.

Why is Johnson dead? I was just in here with it. What the fuck? Why the wall built it? That's the shit that makes it good.

Exactly. And this movie does it perfect.

Jaws.

Jaws. That's what Jaws was such a hit. Yeah, that's right. Jaws was great.

It still holds up. Predator still holds up. You've ever seen Predator?

Predator holds up.

That still holds up. The first Predator? If it bleeds, we can kill it. No, my favorite line is when-Jesse Vendura? No, when they walk into the woods and the old boy keeps making noise, he goes, You fuck this, motherfucker. He tell him, If you keep making noise, I'm going to bleed you. I'm going to leave you out here. I forget what the word is he used, but he was like, You telling everybody where the fuck we at. By the way, you moving, talking, tripping, sliding.

There's something about that, the idea that a sporting alien would come down and hunt people. That's uniquely scary.

So many iconic scenes in there, too. Oh, yeah. The joint where the With a native dude is like, Fuck it.

I'm going to take off my shit.

I'm going to cut my chest. What's up? That's a fucking dope one. The one where Arnold and Apollo Creed, where they do this right here. So this was wild. That's a meme now, but just their arms. And a lot of people don't even know that it's from Predator. They just see it as like, That's the meme.

Right.

Yeah, I've tried to show that to one of my nephews. He was like, Oh, that's the cooperation meme or whatever the fuck they call it.

They started getting silly with Aliens versus Predator. Remember that? They were doing that for a while. There it is.

I'm here for that.

Oh, that's an arm wrestling senior Predator. Yeah, that's it.

They're like, This is how two badass to say hello.

Yeah, they have arm wrestling in the air. It's so stupid. It's so dumb.

No, this movie, the dialog is crazy.

That's back when Carl Weathers was jacked. Yeah. Okay, okay, okay. I didn't know when to quit, huh?

You didn't know when to quit, huh? What is this fucking Thai business?

Come on, forget about my Thai. The way they acted back then was like it was a different form of language. It's It seems so fake. If that was a director today, the same director that did Nosferado, he'd be like, Cut, cut. What are we doing? Are you guys really meeting each other for the first time, or is this a play? Come on.

And also Conan.

He convinced me.

Bro, the run that Arnold had.

Oh, he did a gang of great movies.

Just actions. He's the action star. Conan, bro. He did Conan. Conan the Barbarian.

You know who was the best Conan, though? What? Jason Mamoa. Jason Mamoa did a terrible Conan movie, but he was the best Conan because he was the only Conan that looked like Conan really looked. Like, Conan was super muscular, but he wasn't a bodybuilder. He looked like a killer. He looked like a UFC fighter. He looked like Yuri Prohaska would be a good Conan, like that build. A big, strong guy, but not a bodybuilder. Also, it's like the film was more stylistically appropriate to the Konan lore.

What do you mean how Konan looked?

In the books.

Oh, I didn't know Konan was books.

Oh, dude, I'm a super Konan nerd.

Super nerd. There was a comic book before?

Yeah, well, it was a book. Robert E. Howard, he wrote books about Konan, the Conqueror. He created this whole world of Samaria where he's from, and this whole lore of this one usurper who rises and kills everybody. That's Konan. He keyslaves dragons and monsters and demons. I think he comes back from the at one point in time. He's the greatest warrior of all time.

You know what Konan was for me as a kid? It was my first John Wick. Right.

We were like, Oh, this dude going to fuck everything up. That's how the books were. The books were incredible. The books were written by a guy who lived with his mom and committed suicide. So the dude was like, he wanted... His life sucked. He was super depressed. And he got thrilled out of imagining him being Konan the Barbarian, and conquering lands and having sex with all these beautiful women and killing sorcerers.

So who published the book? They came up after he died?

No, they were... This is in the 19... The '30s. The '30s is when he wrote it? Yeah. Yeah. It was a long time ago he wrote these books, and then they turned them into comic books in the 1960s. When did they start making Konan comic books? So then they had the comic books, and then they had illustrated books. And then I think that was the first Konan movie, was Arnold. I think he was the first Konan movie. And there's been a few attempts since then, but no one has really captured the books, like style realistically, except for the Jason Momoa movie. But the movie just wasn't that good. You need a Robert Eggers, the guy who did this Nosferado movie. That's his name, right? It's Robert Eggers, right? Sorry. The guy who did the Nosferado movie? Yes, I think. That guy. If that guy did a Konan movie, it would be sick. But it has to be a realistic movie. It has to be a movie of this realistic warrior encountering these crazy things. It can't be cartoonish. It can't be like, I just have to believe this dumb shit. Too much suspension of disbelief.

It's got to be a wild movie based- The Northman. Oh, The Northman was amazing. Did you see that? Yeah, I saw that. That's exactly what I'm talking about. This movie is exactly like what Konan would have to be. That movie is fucking great. That's one of the best Viking movies. It's not the best one ever.

It's actually dark as hell.

Really good movie. Oh, there's no good guys in that movie. No. That movie's crazy and probably representative of the real life of Vikings, the way they really lived, because they were fucking ruthless. That movie's great, but it's It also got supernatural in it. There's a lot of cool shit in that movie.

Yeah. I mean, they believed in a lot of supernatural shit.

If that guy directed Konan, holy shit. Then you would get to see the real books because the Robert D. Howard books were great.

So the same guy did Nosferatu did Northman? Yes. Oh, okay.

Bro, it's good. It's fucking good. Nosferatu is one of the best movies I've seen in a long time. It's great. It's so beautiful. The way it's shot is so beautiful. This is a scene when he's walking up to the castle. It's the creepiest setup of all time. It's so good. I don't want to ruin it. It's so good. If you like those movies, I love those movies. I grew up on monster movies. I grew up on... That's why I have that American Werewolf in London out there. I grew up on all of that.

I'm here for Monster's Action Revenge. That's my movies.

Nosferado, Cinematographer, promises Robert Egger's Werewolf is unlike like anything done before. A medieval werewolf movie. Oh, boy. And the primary candidate has never been used in a film. What does that mean?

Maybe the guy they want to lead it.

Oh, yeah.

The actor, the- Perfect. Subject, the character of the movie.

Oh, wait a minute.

So it's a new character.

He did The Lighthouse, too? Yeah. That shit was weird.

And the witch.

Wow. That guy's done some killer fucking movies. I'm excited about this werewolf movie. I've been saying that forever. Someone needs to make another good werewolf movie. Like that Benicio Deltura one?

Pacific medieval image or tale of werewolves that's being clipped close to their chest. So it's like a story that hasn't been made into a movie yet.

Yeah, but medieval, so like, candlelight, spooky. It's going to be awesome.

Remember the Jack Nicholson werewolf one? What was that called?

Oh, yeah, that was terrible. With Michelle Pfeiffer. That was so stupid. They were like, it looked just like a person.

My family went and saw that, and I went and saw a different movie It was the first time that... Because it was like a thing we did. We'd go to the movies every other week. But my father, my stepdad, didn't give a fuck about no age limit. And then they're like, You're going to see what we see. This was the first time I was like, I don't want to see that shit. And I still ended up going in there after because my movie was over before this. I think I went and saw...

This is a Jack Nichols or what? Short circuit 2 or something. He's going and chasing after this deer. I'm a wolf. Look, he just looks like a regular guy. It's so dopey. It's silly. Like, look at this. They decided to make a horror movie that wasn't that scary. And he moves like the $6 million man. Look, slow motion jump, obviously a stuntman. He's going to tackle this deer. And I'm supposed to believe this. I'm supposed to believe that this dude who just looks like a dude can run fast as a fucking deer. Look at him, he's running. It's so dumb. He's flying through the air. Like, how How does becoming a human that's part wolf make you this fast when you look exactly the same? He's on a tree, he flies, and he grabs the deer. This is so stupid. It's so stupid. The owl's freaking out. This is crazy. This is crazy. Did you ever see the Benicio Del Toro one? Uh-uh. This is one good scene. One good scene when the doctors are examining him and they're trying to tell him that he's out of his fucking mind and the doctor is speaking in one of those medical theaters like they used to do in the 1800s.

He's explaining that this person has delusions and they think they're going to be a wolf. We're going to show him by having him tied to this chair while the moon turns full, and we're going to cure him of whatever the fuck is wrong with his brain. So they have him in this thing. Give me some volume on this.

And once Mr..

Talbot has witnessed that the full moon holds no sway over him, that he remains a perfectly ordinary human being. He will have taken his first small step down the long road to mental recovery.

I can just feel everybody in this room about to die.

Everybody's going to die. It's great.

This is awesome. He witnessed his mother's self-mutilation.

His young mind, unable to accept it, created a fantastical fruit.

That his father is to blame.

His father's a werewolf. Yeah, skip ahead a little bit. You, moron. Tonight, I will kill all of you.

I will kill all of you.

Yes, well, as you can see, my country is a disease of the mind existing somewhere in the deep resources of this department.

Kill me. To him, it seems very real. The subject has gone both through the night and

be It's a great fucking scene.

See, my only problem- Great fucking scene.

My only problem with it is, it's not a scary enough wolf.

It's not- Everything else is great. It's not like American Wereholf in London. It's too much like the Wolfman, which is what it was based on, like an updated version of the Wolfman. It's more like- The same guy who did that makeup, by the way, did the American Wereholf in London. That was Rick Baker.

It was like the Teen Wolf Wolf.

Was, right? Was Rick Baker that did That, right? Yeah, Rick Baker. So the thing is, though, it was not CGI. And that's what they were trying to achieve because there's a difference between the way it looks. When it's a dude with a mask on, it looks more realistic. It doesn't take you out of it. And there's something about CGI that even if the wolf looks good, it takes you out of it. The American Wereholf in London, you didn't get to see shit for a long time. It was deep into that movie, you saw flashes of the wolf. Until it was in Piccadilly Square and started killing people. Remember that?

I spent a long time I've seen that movie.

The guy turns into a werewolf in the movie theater. He goes to a dirty movie theater. So he's in this dirty movie theater and they're playing porno films. And he's talking to his dead friend, he's telling him he's got to kill himself. He's going to become a wolf and kill people. And his friend is like, rotting. It's hilarious. Yes, it's very funny. And he turns into the wolf in the movie theater, kills everybody, and then bursts out onto the street, starts killing people in traffic.

I do remember there's a scene with a subway scene, right?

Yes. There's a subway scene where there's a businessman. He's trying to get away, and he sees it, creep it up on him. That's a good scene, too, because you barely see the wolf. You see this guy running, and you know that it's coming after him. You see the terrified look on his face. At the end of the scene, you see the wolf enter into the frame at the bottom of the this escalator where this guy's completely exhausted and sliding down this escalator.

You know the scariest movie I've seen recently? I guess maybe scary is the right word, but it was the sequel to X.

The sequel to X?

And I'm forgetting the name of it. Yeah, Not Malcolm X, but the same girl played in both movies. You know what I'm talking about? It was called... Okay, yeah, so the sequel to this movie-So what is X? It's about like-It's a slasher film? Yeah, it's a slasher film. But the sequel to it... Because I never saw that when I saw this. Okay. I still haven't seen X.

What's it called? What's it called? Maxine.

Maxine with three X's?

No, no, that's not it.

It's not Maxine. I'm sorry. I thought I had to screen up. Shit, my bad.

No, that's not it.

They said it was the sequel right here.

No. It's on there? It's got that same girl in it. Who's the star it is? Pearl. That's what I mean. Pearl was a prequel. Okay, I didn't realize. So Pearl came outside. I saw Pearl before. I haven't seen any of the rest of these. This shit is... I liked it.

She's a serial killer?

She's insane. But it's like, you know she's the monster the whole time, but she doesn't become monstrous. It's the same thing.

And she's cute?

Yeah, she's cute. She's adorable at first glance. I want to be special, dancing up on the screen like the pretty girls in the picture. I will not let you leave this farm again.

I'm worried there may be something real wrong with me. Rumor has it they only take one gal for a town.

We're looking for someone with X-Factor.

It has to be me.

How about a film nobody else has seen?

Is it legal? Will be eventually.

I know what I've done. The other day is not going to be huge to start. Terrible, awful, murderous thing. I want to be loved from as many people as possible.

But truth is, I'm not really a good person. Jesus Christ.

Yeah, bro. You want to talk about like a...

This looks psychotic.

This bitch is just slipping in the insanity further and deeper and deeper and deeper.

I just don't think you should show this to America right now. You know what I'm saying? After people celebrated Luigi, we don't want to glorify people that just go on killing rampages.

It was on a rampage. In fact, that's the thing I respect more is that the people that shoot up a place, it's like, if you're mad at somebody, go after them. Why are you killing the people that got to do with your beef? At least he That's not like specific. He didn't build a building.

That's another one that's been memory hold. The New Orleans guy just ran over all those people.

What New Orleans guy?

You didn't hear about this?

No.

This was how long ago, Jamie? That's the thing.

New Year's Eve, they were within eight hours of each other, this and So this New Orleans guy turns down Bourbon Street and just runs people over, ran over 200 people.

Bunch of people got fucked up. Bunch of people died. How many people died? I think at least 14 less. I think 200 people were injured. Wow. 14 people dead.

Was Four more. He was in a cyber truck, too?

Yeah, and he was also- A road truck, not a cyber truck. No, he was a road... Yeah, sorry, not a cyber truck. But he was also one of the guys from Fort Bragg. We were talking about it yesterday with Metzger. Metzger will get you to believe in conspiracies. Bro, Metzger will take you down some rabbit holes.

He just hit you with so many, though. So many in a row? I can't even get... That's like his-Oh, you didn't know? His entertainment.

Oh, yeah. It's his life.

And I'm on a complete opposite end of the spectrum. Exactly. I like to hear people that's into it talk about it, but I'm never going to go look it up.

Yeah, well, luckily, Kurt gets it. If you're like, Dude, I can't right now. He'll stop. If you say, I can't do this right now. I got to go on stage in five minutes. I can't hear how many people Hillary Clinton killed.

I think he probably is abreast at every conspiracy.

Right, but he believes a bunch of them that are kookey. He and I have had some conversations about ones. I'm like, Wait, why do you believe that? That one doesn't make any sense.

Because the primary belief is that the official story is bullshit. A hundred %. This is probably true a lot of the time. But the way you run into logical trouble is, it's like, just because they lie in don't mean that the first alternative that people give you is the truth.

Right. Some cookey YouTube video. Yeah. That's got it broken down.

It's like, they don't want you to know. I saw it, bro. Did you see this shit? You know Godfrey?

The comic? Yeah.

So he had, I forget the name of the scientist, but he had a scientist come on and debate Lord Jamar. Lord Jamar is a flat-earth. It didn't go well.

Of course it didn't. That doesn't make any sense. Was that that Professor Dave guy?

Yeah, Professor Dave.

Yeah, Professor Mr. Dave's done quite a few of those. He's doing the world a nice favor.

Yeah, but it's like, bro, imagine that being your whole life. It's just opposition.

Well, to what? To bad science? It's to people getting led down a bad road and believing something that's uniquely preposterous that the Earth is flat.

You know Christopher Hitchens, right? Sure. He made his whole career debating Christians and Muslims. He would go to their churches and debate their leaders. Somebody asked him one time, Hey, if you could snap your fingers and make all religion just go away, would you do that? He was like, Honestly, no, because I just like arguing with them too much. Or something to that effect. That was one of his exact words, but it was like, I think I think you got to be a special person to be like, No, I want all the smoke. I want to argue directly with people that I don't think.

Well, Christopher Hitches was uniquely brilliant, and he was so good at forming arguments and sentences, and his grasp of the language was so expert.

He was a great speaker.

Amazing. Amazing speaker. So that he would have these conversations with these people, and they'd be woefully underprepared. They couldn't handle... He also has an incredible terrible amount of knowledge when it comes to religion, whether it's Christianity or Islam. He'll call out everything that has ever happened that's terrible that every one of them was done. He knows that information at the tip of his fingers at any given time.

I grew up religious, and he was the one that made me be like, Oh.

He makes some very, very, very compelling logical arguments. There's also the problem with religion is that there's so many of them, too, and they're so different, and they all think that they have the right one. That That's a real problem. But I think the desire for religion seems to be a part of the structure of our thinking. It's like one of those things that reoccurrs everywhere there's groups of people. There's a desire for meaning, and then there's a connection to a higher power that we all seem to agree is not just likely, but you feel its presence every now and then.

But also it's like we're puzzle solving creatures. It's like the need to have an answer to the puzzle.

Oh, yeah. Or something like that. And also to have a daddy. We always want someone who is above us, whether it's the President or the mayor or your father, whoever it is. You want some person who's looking out for you and it is watching over everything and has a plan for all of it.

Wait until your God gets home, young man.

Yeah, wait. God is watching, you jerk off.

Oh, man. That fucked me up for a little while when I was like...

That God was watching all the time?

Because we used to go when I was little. There was a church that was also a school. They were a Christian school, but on Sunday, they used a school bus to go pick up kids, just like school, but it was for church. We got sent to that. It wasn't even the church my grandmother went to. She just sent us to this one.

What is better? An overly religious childhood or a childhood filled with crime and violence? Clearly, overly religious. That's better because you can learn your way out of some stupid shit that they talked you into when you were young, depending on what the religion is. But crime and violence gets you killed, someone else gets killed, you go to jail. It's not good. It's definitely better in terms of what is more compatible with society to grow up very religious with very strict rules. Then Maybe as you get older, you recognize that...

I mean, doesn't it depend on which religion?

It does. It definitely does. It definitely does. I mean, you have some religions where you get a gang of wives. That sounds like more trouble than it's worth.

Yes.

Well, that's the reason why the Mormons moved to Mexico.

They moved to Mexico? What do you mean? You don't know about that? They're not in Utah no more?

Listen, when Mitch... What's his name? The fucking guy ran for President?

Oh, Mitt Romney.

Mitt. That's why I was fucking up. Mitt Romney. Mitt Romney's dad was born in Mexico, so his dad couldn't be President. But Mitt was born in America. Mitt Romney's family was Mormon. And they moved to Mexico in the 1800s because of religious persecution. And part of that was polygamy. They made polygamy illegal. So these guys, well, fuck it. This is like the 1800s. They're like, Mexico ain't no different than America in the 1800s. Before cars, everyone's on a horse, you got a house, whatever. Same shit. Let's go to Mexico. So they went to Mexico. And to this day, they have giant Mormon compounds in Mexico. And then recently, there was a situation They're armed to protect themselves against the cartel. It's like wild shit goes down. I think it was like a family was killed. I think it might have been an accident. The cartel mistook them for someone else, or someone did. And there was this It was a real problem. Did it get revoked? I don't know what happened. I don't remember how the story went down, but I remember it was a big international story. Then everybody was like, Wait, what's going on?

There's giant camps of armed Muslims in Mexico?

They don't fuck Why did they move to Mexico?

And that's why they moved to Mexico. It's because they have religious freedom.

They don't fuck around. They have a religious freedom. They have a forefront. I bet you the Mormons got an app.

Oh, they probably have an app. Yeah. But that's the story, right? That they were killed by the cartel I think it was a woman and her child was killed by the cartel. Six children, three women. Six children. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Attack on a group of Mormon families in Mexico. So nine women. Scroll back up. Nine women and children from a Mormon community in Mexico were killed while traveling in the three car caravan south of the US-Mexico border on Monday. Three women and six children, all with dual US-Mexican citizenship, were killed in the attack. Security Minister Alfonso Derazo said We had a news conference Tuesday. Here's what we know about the attack. The victims were all shot while in the vehicles while driving. Investigators believe the three vehicles traveling between the Mexican states of Sonora and Chihuahua were ambushed by criminal groups Monday, Mexican authorities said, women and children between 14 years old and 10 months were massacred, burned alive. Lebaron said, mothers were screaming for the fire to stop. They were driving together for safety reasons, said Kendrick Lee Miller, whose sister-in-law was killed in the attack. The family was supposed to go to Miller's wedding next week in Lamour, as she said.

Wow. How did she know they were screaming? Was she there?

I don't know, man. I don't think everybody died. Five children who were hospitalized in Tucson will survive, while Jessup, whose son married Dawn of Langeford's daughter told CNN, Willy Jessup, excuse me. Three of the children have very serious injuries, but two others could be discharged soon.

And they weren't connected to that dope shit? They got to be.

Well, I don't know. They said it was a It's a case of mistaken identity.

But they always say that. Because this is why that don't make sense to me.

Oh, no, they don't say that. It says it's not clear if the attacks were specifically targeted or if the family was a case of mistaken identity.

You don't accidentally shoot the wrong caravan. I mean, what's the chances that it's another caravan just like yours?

Well, here's what it says. It said, Castanada said there were long-standing tensions between the families and the cartels. He said one of the women killed was an activist, and there were frictions over water rights. Oh, Jesus Christ. Scary, dog.

It's scary for whoever lived down there. I feel pretty safe where I'm at.

Yeah, but imagine living in a place that's controlled by the cartel. The government has its fault in the United States, but it's a superior system.

But hasn't the Mexican government started cracking down on the cartel?

I don't know.

They did that shit somewhere. I mean, I'm pretty sure the dude was a dictator, but he just locked everybody up. Venezuela. Is it Venezuela?

Yeah, they literally imprisoned all the gang members.

They just locked every single... Even if you was associated.

They made these giant prisons, and they just filled the prisons up with gang members, and the crime just stopped.

But that was the immediate effect. Is it still the case now?

I don't know. It's a good question. Is that what they're going to do forever? They're just going to keep these guys in that cage for the rest of their lives?

That's expensive.

It is expensive, but is it less expensive than letting them wreak havoc and ruin your entire community? I don't know. It's a very totalitarian thing.

That depends on who you give a fuck about.

Well, it also depends on how many of those people were set up, how many of those people weren't actually in a gang, how many of those people were like, maybe somebody doesn't like you. Probably a little bit of that going on, too.

In that type of situation, where it's a drastic change, and they round than up hundreds of thousands of people. There's going to be a couple of revenge joints slipped in there. Oh, damn. Sorry, Jorge, I accidentally put...

Yeah, crazy. Oh, El Salvador. It's not Venezuela. It's El Salvador. Look at that. Oh, my God. They just said, Fuck it. We're just going to take crime down to zero.

So it's just life in prison?

Well, you know what, man? I mean, is this better? It seems like it's better than having the criminals run society and kill everybody.

I I mean, but at least get them on some bicycles, provide them free power or something.

I don't know. And what have they done? But also, if you grow up in that community, what are you going to do? If you grow up and your whole family is involved in the gangs, what do you do? You're literally guilty by birth. If you grow up in those communities and that's all they've been doing forever, what do you do? What do you do?

How do you sustain that, too?

Right. I guess if you have enough money because now you don't have to fight crime anymore. So now everybody Everybody's locked up. It's dark.

Or it's just going to be new criminal.

What could fix the world, Brian Simpson? Is it going to be technology? Is it going to be mushrooms?

You know my stance. We're done. There's nothing We're going to fix this shit, bro. We're cooked. We passed the point of no return.

But why do you think that, though? Because people can exist in small groups together in harmony. Why can't they exist together in large groups in harmony?

Because I think people are less intelligent in the way in large groups. The larger the group, the dumb of the average IQ, I bet, in terms of how people behave.

Well, I think also in large groups, you don't have to think as much because things are set up for you.

It's just because... You know how I know we're doomed? Online gaming. When you go play a team, I'm playing this Marvel Rival shit everybody playing now, but it's like, Try to get matched up randomly with five other people and get everybody to cooperate. How often you come across people that are just completely selfish to the point where they'll lose on purpose. They take the penalty for losing, too, but just to ruin your day.

But that's just randoms that you're meeting online, though.

You got to cultivate. You see how people communicate. And obviously, I know. Gaming is a certain demographic, but I just mean...

In cells.

It just reminds me, no, it's not in cells. There's regular people out there that just act like assholes when they're anonymous.

Because they can.

People will do selfish... You see these game shows where it's It's that whole, what's it called? The prisoner's dilemma, whatever. Oh, yeah. We can all win or I can win. How often do you see people just go, Fuck all of you all?

They probably encourage you to do it because it makes you good TV.

There's good people out there. I meet extraordinary people all the time, especially now that I live here. I meet people all the time that's like, Wow, if it was more people like you, we would be good. But it's so little people like you.

Right. But how many people like that do you know now? You know a lot, right? You know a lot more.

Not Not enough.

Yeah, but you know a lot more. The key is just to try to limit your associations with people who aren't exceptional. Try to be exceptional, first of all, to attract exceptional people, and then encourage other... You got to surround yourself with people that are cool. Surround yourself with people that are interesting. Surround yourself with people that are exceptional. It gives you energy in this life. It gives you motivation. Yeah, but then you got to make new friends.

I'm not with that either.

Some friends are worth making. Some new friends are worth making. But I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying. It's hard.

You know what it is? I can make a new... I'm very emotionally unavailable, so I just need friends that don't need that. You know what I mean?

That's interesting you say that because you're very friendly. I don't know why you think you're emotionally unavailable. I think you just don't like to be bothered by nonsense that people could fix on their own. There you go.

I'm very easily irritated.

Yeah, but you're not emotionally unavailable. When we talk about stuff, everybody talks about stuff in the green room, you're one of the most honest honest people when you talk about things.

Maybe emotionally unavailable is not the right word, but I feel very much burdened by unexpected obligations. If you hit me with some last minute shit or you constantly need me? Because I'll be there for you. But if you're constantly needing stuff and it gets to that, I just- Exactly.

But you got to realize that's a transactional situation. I know. That's a bad situation. That's not a situation. You haven't surround yourself with people that are autonomous. There's a lot of people that aren't. They need friends for everything they do, and they can't make decisions. They don't get their shit together. Bro, you know what?

I love being by myself. I love going to a restaurant alone. I love company, too, but I go to the movies alone. I like being alone. I like shopping alone.

Well, you have a balance. You spend enough time in front of thousands of people.

Because you know what I don't like? I don't like variables. It's like the more people that come, the more shit could switch up, the more to go wrong.

That's true. Also, you get all these social dynamics at play when there's a bunch of people together.

How many times are we eating dinner? What would you say is the perfect amount of people to bring to dinner?

It depends. There was this one time, I don't want to say the time, but where there was a bunch of us and a bunch of other people, and it really helped that there was a bunch of us because we all huddled up together. Oh, right. Remember that time?

Yeah. Oh, and don't forget, Vegas was great. It was a lot of people at that table then. Oh, yeah.

But we knew all those people. Right, right, right. You know, those are all people were close friends. It was a good time. It wasn't like there was no social dynamics at play. When we're all hanging out, it's generally just fun. There's no one person is trying to get to the top.

Yeah, comics are different. But I say, but six is for me. Six is a good number. If I hear that it's going to be more than six, now it's going to be separate conversations.

What if Bob can't drink? What if Bob starts drinking and gets real loud? Right.

You need vegan options.

Someone's non-gluten. Gluten free, please. Do you have a gluten free menu?

Yeah, but I don't like being in big groups.

Right. I know what you mean. I get it. It's like when you're a group of people and then one person has a friend that they tell you it's cool. Don't worry, Bob's cool.

My middle name could be who all going to be there. You invite me to something? Because even now, Derek and them, they'll invite me to stuff even though they know I'm not coming. Right. Oh, yeah. Do it come to the... No, I'm good.

But that's also a reflection on your sense of humor because you're always finding things that are stupid in everything. Your act is essentially, let me tell you about some stupid shit.

It's a gift of the curse. Oh, it's a gift. That's what I say. Ignorance is bliss. When you notice too much, you can't be happy. You can't possibly be happy. Or you got to distract yourself. You can be happy a second when you're on a drug or having a good time. But eventually you go, How did that fucking helicopter crash into a plane?

You think about all these different variables. I used to say that to my students when they would fight, because a lot of them that were really smart, I would notice they would be much more nervous-What did you teach? Than the dumb kids. What did you teach? Martial arts. What do you mean?

Of Of course, it's martial arts, but my dumb ass, my mind went to you teach it in the classroom like a professor?

Oh, when they would fight? No. No, I mean, I take them to tournaments. So I had students that I would take to tournaments, and the really smart ones would be the most scared. And I would have to tell them it's because you're smart. The reason why you're scared is because you're aware of all the variables and you know you're vulnerable. Whereas dumb people don't think that. They're overconfident and they're not aware of all the variables. But you can overcome this. I'll be like, I did it, too. I have the same feeling. I don't want to do it. It's stupid. Why am I doing this? Why am I risking my health? Why am I risking my safety? You have all those thoughts that are going to go in your head, but you're going to learn something about yourself from doing this. And you're smart, and that's why you're nervous. And you should be nervous because it'll help you. It'll help you move faster. I used to use customato's expression, the customato, this great thing that he told Mike Tyson. He said, Fear is like a fire. It could cook your food if you can control it, or it could burn your house down.

That's what it's like. It's like that But the intelligent people are the ones that are aware of it. The intelligent people are the ones that oftentimes struggle the most with overcoming anxiety to compete because they're aware of how fucking dangerous this actually is. They're not blissfully unaware like a moron just walking into a cage fight not knowing they might get knocked the fuck out. Not going to happen to me, bro. There's a lot of those not going to happen to me, bro, guys.

Yeah, but you can still be world champion and be that person.

Oh, well, if you're gifted. If you're gifted and if you're genetically gifted, and if you're driven and you really work hard and you enjoy it, yeah, you could get pretty far.

You're not going to talk well. You're not going to speak well in 20 years.

At the end, it's going to be rough.

Because it's amazing to me. That's another thing. We talk about legacy and stuff like that, but MMA-wise, Jon Jones is equivalent to Floyd Mayweather in terms of how little damage he's taken over.

Yes. There was a few fights where they were real rough. The Dominic Reyes fight was real rough. He got hit a bunch of times in that fight.

The first Gustus in the fight.

He got caught a few times by Liotto Machida before he put him to sleep. Liotto was catching him. He hit him with one big left hand. Rashaad Evans clipped him with a big right-hand. But for the most part, Jon is the very best at utilizing distance and also having a strategy.

He said that was the hardest he ever got hit, Rashaad.

Rashaad? Yeah. Rashaad knocked Chuck Liddell out cold with that punch. Remember? Yeah. Out cold, one shot.

Was that the first time Chuck Liddell got knocked out?

No. Chuck Liddell had gotten stopped by Rampage and Pride. Okay. Then Chuck I mean, he had been stopped a few times.

I think Shogun stopped him. After his rise.

No, because Rampage stopped him during his rise. Rampage stopped him when he was a champ, or maybe he wasn't the champ. He was the best guy. Tito was the champ for a little before Chuck fought Tito, and everybody knew that Chuck was going to beat Tito. It was one of those things where this is a bad matchup because Chuck is a really good wrestler and just a ferocious striker, ferocious and so aggressive massive and just nasty power, and just would throw himself into the wars. Throw himself. He had an iron chin. So you just, Fuck you. He just throw himself and really skillful, too, man. Like, underrated skills, but just a desire for the firefight that was like nobody else. But Rampage beat him. Rampage stopped him in pride. So they had an exchange where they were going to send UFC fighters over to pride to fight the best pride guys. And Chuck was one of the best UFC guys, and Rampage stopped him. And Chuck fought Alister Overeem, and Alister Overeem was doing really well. But Alister... Damn. Chuck stopped Alister.

Just that bitch, though. Rampage used to have that mouthful.

Oh, bro, this was when Chuck was Chuck. Right? This was not past his prime Chuck. This was in his prime Chuck. But Rampage was fucking ferocious. He was so good. And Pride had knees to the head on the ground, all this shit. And Rampage, eventually, I believe he stopped him with body shots on the ground, if I remember correctly. I remember he just beat him up, and then they stopped the fight. I think he just got on top of him at one point in time. It was a grueling fucking fight, though, but I think this is the end of it right here. He was just beating him down, and eventually, they stopped the fight. So these punches to the face and then just dig into the body.

Look how tiny that referee is.

I know. And then it looks like he got on top of him. Yeah, he got full mount, and then they stopped the fight. Yeah. That was Rampage in his Prime. Rampage in his Prime was motherfucking. He was fucking scared.

I saw a video of somebody talking shit to him. One of the young fighters now talking shit to him.

It was Kevin Holland. Yeah, Kevin Holland and him had some a disagreement.

Yeah. So they don't get that? He don't get legend status? Where you got to let it slide?

I don't know. Young guys, you know how they are.

Because that's like if Randy Couture say something out of pocket, and you're a fighter, you You got to slide.

He's a legend. Rampage is a legend. There's a lot of guys. When you talk about B. J. Penn, talk about him with respect.

Because also it doesn't look good. No. Especially like, I'll fight you right now, that shit.

Right.

That's not a good look, bro.

Especially the guy paved the way. When Rampage fought Chuck, what year was that? Was that 2003? What year was that?

I'm going to guess '05.

Was it 2007?

Wait, this is in the UFC, though. That pride fight was different.

Yeah. Well, Rampage knocked Chuck out.

That was like '05, probably.

In the UFC, too. Rampage caught Chuck with a right hook. 2003. Then they fought again in 2007. Is that what happened? Show that one. Yeah, Rampage knocked out Vanderly Silva. He lost to Vanderly Silva twice, though, brutally in pride. The One of the fights was fucking brutal. Brutal. Brutal knockout. He got kneed in the face and went through the ropes unconscious. So this is Chuck and Rampage in the UFC. This is when Rampage won the title. And Chuck had already fought him once and got stopped. So he was wary.

But this is- This is way past his pride, Chuck, right?

No, he was in his prime, man. He was still in his prime. He was the champion. Chuck was the champion at this point in time. But Rampage was fucking good, man. He was fucking good. And just so dangerous. Boom. And I was saying he's the funniest guy in MMA. He's very funny. I actually interviewed him. I did that UFC show for a while. I forget what it's called. But we hung out together. We rolled. We did jiu-jitsu, went and got something to eat. But he's very funny, dude. He used to have this crazy monster truck. He used it to knock out Kevin R There it is. Boom. That's how he won the title.

Yeah, it was awesome.

Chuck's confused, but that's what happens. You get knocked out. You don't know what the fuck happened. You think you're fine.

Really?

Yeah, you don't know what happened. You get shut off. You're like, What happened? Sometimes guys get shut off, and then they die for the referee's legs, and they think they're still fighting. They take the referee down.

I seen a dude swinging at the ref.

Oh, yeah. They don't know what's happening. I mean, a lot of these guys are on full fight or flight after they get tagged. It's just chaos. They don't know what they're seeing.

Referees get I say it all the time. Yeah, that's what I was like, look how tiny that motherfucker was. What are you stopping in there?

How are you going to get Rampage off of Chuck Liddell? Herb Dean, like dive it motherfuckers and move them. Herb is a big guy. That's what you want. Or a strong person. You have to have physical strength.

He's going to ask you politely.

Imagine Francis is fighting. How are you going to get Francis off somebody? How are you even going to move him?

There's no way that Herb Dean is stronger than Francis and Gano. Impossible. But you got to be strong enough that they feel you. They're snapped him out.

Yeah, you can't be 125 pounds in refereeing that fight.

I thought that was a woman at first.

Mark Goddard is good, too. He's a big dude. Mark Goddard? Yeah, he's great for those big fights. I don't think I've ever seen him in person. Oh, you've seen Mark.

I met Herb Dean.

He's one of the best referees. The best referees, there's quite a few of them that are really good. But I always say the gold standard's Herb. He's the gold standard. And Big John, when he was doing it, he was the gold standard.

He stopped?

Yeah, he does commentary now. John does commentary Well, he's doing it for Bellator, but I think Bellator is now no longer. He also has a podcast with Josh Thompson. That's really good.

Who was that one referee that Dana White hated? Steve Mazzagadi. What happened to him? Is he still a refer?

I don't know. I haven't seen him in a while. I think I saw him at a kickboxing event many years later after the UFC.

That dude is never going to work again. That's a wild shit to say in a meeting. Yeah.

People make mistakes.

But what was his fuck up, though? He fucked up bad, right?

He fucked up a few of them. There's a few of those guys that fucked up a few too many fights, and then you just can't after a while. We need someone reliable. When you got a guy like Mark Goddard who almost never fucks up, everybody is going to fuck up. They have the second hardest job. The first hardest job is the fighter. Second hardest job is the referee. Third hardest job is probably the judge. My job is easy.

The ref, they can only see from one angle.

We miss shit all the time, and we have monitors. At least the judges have monitors now. They didn't used to have monitors. In the early days, we had a fight to get them monitors. We're like, We should be able to show them stuff in the replay that the crowd is seeing. Because sometimes you think a guy got knocked down, but he He just tripped. It looks like he got knocked down, but really, he just got punched on the shoulder, and they just fell down. That happened in that fight with Islam Makachev and Moïse Moukano. Moïse Moukano caught him with a right-hand. It looked like he hit him. We thought he dropped him. But really what happened is he hit him in the shoulder and they tripped legs together and Islam fell down. And then Islam got... We thought he was hurt. If you were judging that, I mean, Islam finished him in the first round. He subbed him in the round, so it didn't matter. But if you saw that fight and if that went to the distance and you said, Oh, my God, he's hurting him. He's rocking him on the feet, you would maybe score that round from Moikano when if you saw the replay, you're like, Oh, he didn't rock him.

He just flipped. So if you don't have a monitor- Can they hear you all, too? No, they shouldn't be able to hear us because maybe- It's bias. Yeah, maybe we frame it in a way that's different than the way they think it. The whole reason to have three different point of views is to have three different expert perspectives. You I don't want them hearing what me and DC are saying. You want them watching the fight because if we're on someone's nuts, then this guy is like, Oh, he definitely is winning. And maybe the people at home are like, Fuck you. The other guy was winning. There's a few of those fights.

Yeah. Some were... It's been a while since there was a really questionable one.

You know what's an interesting one? Not a questionable one, but an interesting one is Marab versus Umar. Marab, Dwaavishwili, and Umar Nermogamadov, they go to the distance, Five-round fight, Marab winds up winning a decision.

That was on that same card?

Yeah. Amazing fight. Amazing fight. Probably the best 135-pound title fight in the history of the sport. It was incredible. It was so well-matched. They went back and forth. Umar, apparently broke his hand in the first round. Was still throwing it for the whole fight. He wound up taking Marab down, and nobody expected that. He got Marab's back. He won the first two rounds, and the question is the third round. I watched it a couple of times, and me and John Anick and Daniel Cormier have been going back and forth with text about this. I was like, Man, that third round is so close. It's so close. I could see judges giving it to Umar. He landed more strikes on the feet. He did get one takedown. Marab got a couple of takedowns, but he didn't do much with a takedown. But Daniel had a really good point that at the end of it, Marab was accelerating, and it looked like Umar was starting to get tired.

See, I tuned in at that point. I started that pay-per-view at that third round. So I hadn't seen the previous two rounds.

But at the end of the third round, Umar has Marab's back. He's behind him, and he's controlling him against the cage. He had wound up taking Marab down at one point in time. It's like he landed a lot of strikes on the feet. Probably did more actual damage, but Marab did take him down more, and Marab was pushing the pace, and Marab did also land shots. It was close. It's the third round that's the real close one because I gave the first two rounds Umar. And then you get into the third, you're like, oh, that's the one. That one's close. Because the fourth and the fifth were clearly Marab was coming on strong. Marab was like... It was astonishing, his endurance. It was astonishing. His fucking cardiovascular systems off the charts.

It was a good ass fight.

His cardio is fucking insanity. It's insanity. It's like Michael Chandler. But I would be very happy to see that fight again. Very happy.

I never see Michael Chandler get tired.

Incredible.

Let It was his last fight when he lost. With Olivera. Yeah. Yeah, but he sitting there standing up with a motherfucker on his back in the last round. Yeah. I never see him get tired.

No, he's an animal. Well, he trains like nobody. I mean, his strength and conditioning routines, you can watch them online. They're fucking Crazy. Cam Haynes went and trained with him once. The guy's a maniac. But that's his weapon. To have that cardio, that discipline, to have that cardio, that work ethic. Some people just wire different, man. It's also the work ethic, man. You have to have that work ethic because he's been doing it for a long time. And to still have that work ethic- That's what I mean.

Even the best people in the world, they get tired of it.

Yeah, he's not tired of it, man. He's definitely not tired of it. He's still exciting. I mean, Oliveira is one of the best in the world. He had Oliveira hurt in that third round. He had him hurt. He had some moments in that third round. We were like, Holy shit. This is a real fight. And Oliveira is as good as it gets. He's one of the best submission artists in the history of the sport, and he couldn't get him. Got him in the first fight, though. First fight, he KOed him, remember? He hit him with that clean left hook.

I don't remember.

Chandler had him real hurt in the first round. Rocked on his back, fighting him off in the first round. And then they start in the second round, Chandler moves straight to him and Oliver just pieces him up.

Oh, yeah, I do remember. Yeah, I do remember that.

He hit him with a clean left hook. It was clean.

I think I was there.

You might have been there.

Yeah, man. We had some good-ass fights this year. And now Crawford's about to fight.

Yes, he's going to fight Canelo. Oh, man. I just hope he's big enough. I hope he's big enough to keep that dude off him because Canelo hits so hard, man.

That's one dude that I believe all the shit he be talking.

Crawford? Yeah.

Oh, he's good. He don't just be saying shit.

They tried to say that Errol Spence was damaged because of what Crawford did to him because he was damaged from the car accident. I'm like, maybe. Or maybe Crawford would have done that three years ago. I think he's that good. He's just so He's so skillful. He's so slick. And he's also the best guy in the sport at switch hitting. He'll go from Southpaw to Orthodox and be just as good and trip you up. You think he's going to start Southpaw, he starts Orthodox. You prepare for orthodox, he's fighting Southpaw. He feels like he's got you timed, better orthodox, he'll switch it up. He's super accurate. Oh, he just knows so much about boxing, about where to be and what's coming.

He's a strategist that's also entertaining. You know what I mean? He's an artist. Remember like a young Beehop?

It was just so sharp and made it look almost entertaining. You know what I mean? Roy Jones in his prime. It was art. You were watching art. He's piecing up people. It was an art for him. All right, Brian Simpson. Let's wrap this bitch up. Bring it home. Everybody, BS Comedian on Twitter, BS Comedian on Instagram.

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