Transcript of #2257 - Bryan Callen

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My wife, I smoked 1 of these, and I didn't brush my teeth. I woke up the next morning, and my wife said, your breath is 4 dimensional.

You didn't brush your teeth before you went to bed and

you smoked a cigar? Of course, I didn't brush my teeth before I went to bed.

Give a fuck.

You know what I mean? You're married. You're married. She was like, you you I love you so much. Your breath is 4 dimensional.

Oh. You know, these fires. I, I have 2 small children now. Because what I wanna do is what you wanna do is you wanna get divorced, and then you wanna have get married again to a woman who's 23 younger and then have 2 more kids because that's good. And, and then I

Definitely takes a lot of financial stress when

I get back. Dude, there's no financial stress at all. It's great. You know what? If I hustle till I'm 80, I'll be fine.

Anyway, it's gonna be really awkward when I call you at 75. I I just need help this month. But anyway, so I fucking, I I look at her and I go, she's like a girl from Jersey, like Irish Italian chick, no nonsense, you know, been working since she was 16. And I go, you know, they we had an evacuation order that they sent out by accident to people even down where I'm at. Yeah.

What was that? It was some guy who fucked up because I don't know if you know this is gonna be this is gonna be shocking. Grabbed the table.

Wait a minute.

LA's not run very well. Hold on. I know. Hold on. What the fuck are you saying?

Because, see, here's the thing. We have to worry about I know.

Isn't the chief of fire department a lesbian?

Now hold on. Let's not turn this into listen. Here's the bottom line. Run amazing. It's not about infrastructure.

Infrastructure's gotta

take won't sit here while you disparage the great people

that are running Los Angeles. Sir, infrastructure's gotta take a back seat to climate change and social justice and homeless abatement, which hasn't worked.

See, the lady who's responsible for filling the fire hydrants gets paid $750,000 a year.

Hey. Your tax dollars going to good work there, everybody.

That's a lot of money. You think? That's sitcom.

You think? I said

That's like, I'm the star of a sitcom.

Oh, dude.

It's a star. But, like, you're the third person. No.

That's that's a high wage, sir. $750 Oh, yeah. For a city employer

who's just, like, fill that 1. How how the aquifers how

the aquifers today? Get the water in that 1. You know what? We gotta protect the delta smelt.

Yeah.

Which whatever the fuck that is. So we gotta

we gotta Trump was talking about that on the podcast. On the podcast I did with him, Trump was going on this long rampage about Los Angeles and the fires and how it all can be prevented, and they could have plenty of water. He explained the whole thing, and he's right.

Here's my whole philosophy. You guys know you know that we have a tinderbox. And you can say that there are a lot of people that live there. The fires are it's always a potential. If that's the case, then please make sure the fire hydrants we've gotta be able to figure that.

You you guys in LA California came up with AI. I mean, well, the Silicon Valley was pretty innovative people.

Let's figure out a way to keep the fucking different people.

They are very different people.

Saying people in America Yeah. Yeah. Are homeless and also Elon Musk. Right.

You know

what I'm saying?

Some people down in government who are innovative like that. What the fuck are we gonna do?

Do that job.

Do do you know do you know the city council of Los Angeles? 4 of the members of the city council are far left social Democrats. How about that? There's 0 there's 0 pushback on ideas. It's just all Yeah.

It's all in echo chamber. Well, I'm hoping now that this is a giant wake up call for these people. I mean

Good luck.

There's no positivity that's gonna come out of a horrific fire like that. But at at least it'll wake because look, that area, you know, Adam Carolla was on someone's show talking about this and he said something that's, like, very act I think he was actually doing it himself.

Yeah. About permits? Yeah. Yeah.

Well, he was just saying that there's 80% of the people that live there are far left. 80 percent of the people that got their houses burned down from complete total incompetence and a lack of management. That's right. Total incompetence.

Yeah.

80% of those people are far left people, and that's a giant wake up call when you realize, like, no, this this fucking people, this is not the way to do it. Did you see that lady, the the fire lady, who's a part of this whole diversity thing? And they said, you're a woman firefighter. Can you if can you carry my husband out of a burning building? She was like, well, if your husband's in a burning building, he already made a mistake.

Sorry. She said She's a big old, sexy, fat black lady. My favorite was that 1 of the woman said, you want people to rep to look like you.

Same lady.

And I'm like, hey, listen. Hey, lady. When when my house is on fire and I'm trying to get my kids out, I'm not gonna be like, hey. I got I can I get some people that look like me? Because this this doesn't make me feel sick.

Look like Brian Shaw.

So I want them to become so fucking walk.

They can even look like a white walker.

Snow. They look like a white walker and they can get me out of that fucking fire, I'm in. I'm a blind show.

Be a giant dude who can carry people.

With a mustache that goes like this. Yeah.

Right? Handlebar. I love firemen.

I'm such a I'm so gay that when I saw they came by, I saw some firemen, and I didn't know what to do. I was I wanted to say something like, go get them guys or something like that, and I and I literally went like this. I went I saluted them. I went That's good. It's a little embarrassing.

It's an acknowledgment.

Yeah. But my wife my wife is so funny because my wife is very handy, and I said, and we had an evacuation order. I looked at her and I go, I gotta go to Joe's podcast and then shoot my special at the mothership, but, I feel guilty about leaving you here. And she goes, what are you gonna do? You can't change a tire.

I got this. I was like, alright. See you later.

So Yeah. I don't know. I would have felt weird about leaving them too.

Even though you're safe space I'm good.

Yeah. You're good for now. This is the thing about LA that, you know, there's a viral clip that's going around now of a conversation that I had with Sam Murrell, a while back. And we were talking about when I was on Fear Factor how this fireman told me that this was gonna happen 1 day. So it's just a matter of time.

Yeah. With the right wind, he's like, we won't be able to stop it. Now that's gone viral. And, then the Trump thing went viral too because Trump was saying that they need to do something to change this. This.

They need to clean up the forest, get rid of all the dead wood. Yeah. All these things could be done. Get rid of all the brush, get rid of all the dead wood, open up that fucking water from the north to come down. This idea that do you know that the whole center of California used to be a lake?

No. A giant lake?

No.

Bro, I found out about it about a year ago.

Really?

It's crazy. Young Jamie, wait. Do you see how big this fucking lake was? And all of it, all of the is all meddling and fucking around by humans.

Did I ever tell you the conversation I had with Arnold Schwarzenegger? I was with John Legos.

Did he say screw your freedom?

No. He said this was before that. I I was doing that movie. Screw your freedom. Screw your freedom.

I, he he said, this

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with John Legazam. We were doing that movie ride along, and John goes, hey. Stick around. I'm gonna we'll have some dinner with a friend of mine who's come by. I didn't know who it was.

Arnold shows up with his assistant. It's kinda cool. And I'm a fan. So we're sitting there, and I just read a book on California politics by Michael Lewis called Boomerang about sort of, like, how a lot of the towns like Stockton went broke because of the pension plans and all that that shit. Blah blah blah.

I thought it was the Diaz brothers running around slapping people. It is that dude. It is that dude. It's Is that dude?

Yeah. Yeah. I was waiting for

Check this out. Look at the size of this lake. Tulare Lake.

What? Largest freshwater lake West Of The Mississippi.

Largest freshwater lake West Of The Mississippi. What? It used to be fucking huge. Show a photo of what it used to look like. So it was all agriculture.

They fucked it up. Oh, because they drained it. Right?

Look

at the size of it. What the Look how big it was. In the world.

Look how fucking big that is.

And now it's just gone.

Gone. Apparently, it's refilling.

Well, I guess we needed it for to grow all the

orange juice. Right? Fuck up.

I mean, you know, it became We needed

it for almonds. For the Owen tally. Almond milk. There's there's 1 amazing photograph of this guy who was squirting almond milk on the fire outside of his house because that's all he had. Is that true?

He had 2 quarts of almond milk. It's like this soy man, this this literal human water balloon.

Oh, look at that.

Yeah. God bless him.

God bless him. Dude, that's when you're really trying. That's when you're trying. Prophet pass gone. That's that's just a last stand, bro.

That's a last stand. That's No. You should've been out

you gotta get out of there. You gotta accept I've been evacuated 3 times.

Have you really? Yeah.

When I looked at the volcano. Yeah.

I remember.

I got evacuated 3 times. You know, it it burnt 2 houses in front in 02/18. 02/00 houses in front of my, old house are burnt to the ground.

Well, that that video I showed you at my friend's house that just disappeared, and then you remember I said that video of him driving down the PCH? Those guys are coming to my house because our where I'm at is the only place that's, you know, where the air is breathable and

all that. Yeah.

Well, we have a barrier between, the 405 and also the airport, so it's really we're pretty safe. Yeah.

Pretty safe. The thing about I mean, this is from someone who's been through it a few times. You don't understand. You think it's just a fire. It's not.

It's a storm. Yeah. So I saw fire tornadoes until you've seen a yeah. I saw fire tornadoes. When we were filming we're filming on Fear Factor, and ironically, this was the same time where this fireman was explaining to me what's gonna happen in LA.

We're filming Fear Factor, and when we were driving back, the entire ride I got I watched the guy die. I watched the guy run across the highway and get hit by a car. What the fuck? Yeah. I didn't see him get hit by a car, but I saw him.

Jesus Christ. He was the and my, producer, the producer of the show apparently saw more. He saw, like, graphic. You know? People were panicking.

There there was ash fall in the sky like it was snowing. It was crazy. And everyone's driving and no 1 everyone's got this, like, somber, like, 50 mile an hour driving the entire right side of the highway for an hour. Like What? We were filming

And you can feel that heat.

Right? Yeah. We were filming off the 5. So we were, like, way up by, you know, like, as your head's going to balcony and field. Oh, yeah.

Bakersfield, like, that that's is that off the 5 or the 10? Whatever the fuck it is. When we were we're pretty far away, and it was a whole hour driving back where the whole right side of the highway was in flames.

It got

I mean, completely engulfed like a Lord of the Rings movie where you're waiting for Sauron to come riding on an evil horse over the top of it. It was nuts. It was fucking nuts. And you would see fire tornadoes, man. The fire was fucking insane.

There's nothing you can do to it.

Flying through the air, so you're worried your car is gonna catch fire. 1 of the things that happens is people get stuck on highways, cars catch fire, and the fire and the winds just roll through the whole highway, and everybody burns alive inside their cars. What? Yeah. That happened at what is it?

The camp park camp? What was the big fire? That's right. That that that's the city. A ton of people died in their cars.

Horrifying. Oh. The you know, I gotta tell you. The crazy thing about the Pacific Palisades was that 8 years ago, probably 8 maybe almost 9 years ago, I looked at houses there with my my ex wife. And we came so close to buying a house because it was it's such a beautiful place.

We didn't buy it because it was a little too expensive, to be honest with you. It was like it was like, you know, just a little out of our price, you know, point. But, even, like, for a smaller house, it was expensive. Right? But Yeah.

It's it's beautiful. Maybe the

last thing It's gorgeous.

The last thing you would ever think. The last thing is, that that house would burn down or there was a fire hazard, especially down, like, where Gelson's was or the whole town. That dude when I'm saying the town is gone, you know the only structure that's standing is that guy Caruso, that mayor, the guy who ran for mayor who narrowly lost to Karen Bass? He built that mall out of fire retardant material, and that's the only structures that pretty much downtown that are that in in the town of Cali, Pacific Calisades. Frank Grillo, our buddy Mhmm.

His old house burned right to the ground. Just done.

Yeah. Segura's house burned to the ground. Everybody's. Did Mel Gibson's? Yeah.

Mel Gibson's burned

to the ground too.

Look at that, dude. It's insane.

In a million years. I'm telling you, no when you bought a house there, nobody said something about fire.

No 1. That's so and by the way, fire insurance in LA. What look at that 1 house perfect. Isn't that crazy? Yeah.

That's crazy.

What's that made out of?

I don't know. Look, it just the wind blew a different direction or something.

I don't know, man.

I think

it's gotta be what the house is made of because that wind's blowing everywhere.

No. I I don't think any house withstands that kind of fire. I think I should be

Are you sure? Yeah. How do you know? Are you a builder?

I am. You're not a builder. That's Brian Callender's nah. No. I don't believe anything can be

Can you make a house out of all concrete?

It doesn't matter. The entire

house look at that 1 house.

That guy That's that's a question of

wind fucking lotto, son.

No. That's wind. Look at that, though.

But here's the thing. Look at that. You don't wanna live there now. If you're that house on the corner and everything you look at as devastation Well, the schools are gone. Right.

Right. The schools are gone.

But here's my other thing. Here's the question I have. Okay. So you see that. Right?

Now who is going to rebuild there and who's gonna who's gonna finance it? Are you gonna

get What kind of insurance? You're not gonna get insurance.

So so are you gonna get insurance Or is a bank gonna finance that? Would you wanna rebuild there when you have to wait for a gas station, for a grocery store? There's nothing there. Right. So to me, I don't understand what I don't know what happens to that very valuable property.

I don't know what happens to the entire city now I don't know. Because people are looting like fucking crazy. Gigantic groups of a hundred men organized are pulling into neighborhoods that are being evacuated Yeah. Smashing through doors and pulling out TVs. There's film footage of them.

There's also a bunch of people that have been caught setting fires.

Yeah. I'd be I I would I would I think they should be put to death.

1 guy got caught setting fires and he had a UN debit card. What? And he had a bunch I'll I'll send it to Jamie. The guy that got arrested for I'll I'll tell you which which fire it was, but he got arrested. He had a UN card.

I'll tell you exactly.

This kind of this kind of tragedy brings out the best in people and the worst in people. The 1 thing it does in in these communities, it brings all these people together. Mhmm. You know, my buddy started to cry because I was on the phone with him. He lost everything.

Right? And he they're gonna come stay with us. And he said, he when I was on the phone, somebody these people dropped by and dropped off clothes for them. And he's got a lot of money, and he started to cry, man. He was like, I can't tell you how many people have reached out.

He had 5 cell phones and a United Nations prepaid debit card.

I I I'm skeptical. Is this Of course you are. Conspiracy?

Skeptical. Is this conspiracy?

I just don't wanna be played.

No. I think the New York Post did a thing about it.

You know what I mean, though? I don't wanna be played. I don't know what's true

about it. New York Post didn't post that he had the debit card.

Yeah. I don't know what's true.

From the Texas Patriot Twitter account. You see?

I told you. I'm I'm already, like, I don't know. They

said that the New York Post has edited the info out of their article.

Thank you.

Why? Because it's not true.

Rumors, Joe Rogan.

Patriot account said that.

Oh, so then Oh. If I look at the copyright below You

got you got played.

Maybe not. Maybe the New York Post are a bunch of pussies

and a

bunch of libtards.

The pussy the New York Post is very conservative.

They are kinda. Yeah. Yeah. But I

I gotta tell you, this is I I do think this is how this there's a sea change here. You gotta have people with opposing points of view that are pro business, etcetera. You have just all progressives Yeah. In Sacramento and in this they if you got on the city council. But you know what?

Until Angelenos wake up and start voting for intelligent people who are not forget right or left. How about practical people who understand infrastructure, who put infrastructure Russo. Yeah. Yeah. I know.

I know. The the roads I live there, man. The roads, the fucking power line, it's all it's all from Okay? So it's all about ground,

by the way, which is a real problem when the wind start blowing like that.

Correct.

Which is what happened in Maui as well Yeah. If you don't believe in direct energy weapons. Yes.

I forgot about those from space. 1 of them is controlling those. No.

They're in the Antarctica. Antarctica.

Yeah. The Rothschilds. Yes. It's a cabal of Jews. Yes.

The invisible circle of Jews. That's what every conspiracy theory always goes right back to that. I'm just saying. Yeah.

I'm like, alright. But, you know, the the Mossad and the IDF and, like, the influence on politics is pretty well established. Like, there's both things. It's like, no. It's not the the Jews aren't the problem in the whole world.

No. And when everything goes sideways, people always do start blaming the Jews. Always. Did we ever figure out who said that to us? Was it Jordan?

What? Was it Jordan who started talking? Where's the GadSat? Who started talking about it's 1 of the marks of a collapsing society when they start blaming everything on the Jews?

They blame the black plague on them. They're like, you guys cover your wells. My my thing about that is whenever people go back to the Jews, I'm always like, yeah. Do you like Hollywood? They invented that

Yeah. And improv

Maybe. And monotheism.

That's not good. But then also

And stainless steel. And virtual reality. Steel? Yes. And virtual reality.

Listen. They have more Eastern European Jews have won Nobel prizes than I think any other ethnic group.

They're incredible. Yeah. Nobody wants to.

Incredible group of humans.

Let's just talk about art and everything else. Einstein, Freud, it just goes on and on. So you're gonna have people How many comics?

How many comics are you?

Oh my god. Jesus Christ. Some of the funniest people of all time?

1 of the greatest of all time, Lenny Bruce. Thank you. Thank Groundbreakers. The the literal starter of this whole thing. Groundbreakers.

Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So I always say that. Also,

probably funding Epstein, but also probably running a gigantic blackmail ring where they have control over all the pop politicians in the country.

I might be doing that too if I if I if my if my survival dependent on it. Especially if you're smart Mhmm. And you're, like, really good at chess. You're like, I know what to do.

These guys like to fuck.

Let's set

them up. Let's set them up.

What have we ever have has there been any what is the with the list? My my here's my theory on the Jeffrey Epstein team. What is see what you think. Oh, I'd

love to hear

those. I think that I think that the people are so powerful that I that I know I know in certain cases, the lawyers go to the lawyers of these powerful people. Then they go, how you doing? Now we got some evidence that your client, who's a family man and everything else, was banging girls on Jeffries Island.

Getting pissed on Yeah.

Yeah. Whatever it is, bro.

Nuts put in a cinch. Sure. We got Little kids are shitting in his mouth. Sure.

Hey, dude. Hey. Hold on. What podcast is this?

They're doing drugs. They're doing drugs. They're taking wild chances.

As I put this shit cigar on my mouth. These are

good cigars. Mhmm. Delicious. Shout out to Foundation Cigars.

Yeah. It's great. But but I think what happened was there was a lot of money, and every 1 of those fucking people got paid off. I think it just went away because there's there's money. They they came to these really rich people, and they were like, what what's your what's your privacy worth?

What's your reputation worth? How about 10,000,000? How about 20?

Well, this is the the whole suspicion as to why the guy who was the CEO of Victoria's Secrets gave Jeffrey Epstein a fucking $60,000,000 mansion in Manhattan.

And controlled his whole estate.

Yeah. And then there was the other guy who was some big CEO who gave him a hundred and $50,000,000 and had to resign. Yeah. A bunch of these guys resigned. Money got passed around, and, unbelievably, the client list has not been released.

I know.

I mean, it's been He was very good

at laundering money, I guess. And he was also Even though,

I don't know what he really did. You know, the the person do I trust about those things is, Eric Weinstein. Another Jew. Yes. Another brilliant Jew.

I love Eric. I love Eric.

I love Eric.

He's amazing. Yep. But when I talked to him about it, he actually met Jeffrey Epstein. And he said and Eric is just way too smart. Yeah.

You know, he's not a guy that you could fool. Right.

He was like, this is a construct.

What's that? Right away. That's what he said. He said this guy is a construct. He said, that he had a woman, like, a 21 year old girl that was sitting on his lap, and he kept kinda, like, nudging his knee up and down to make her tits bounce a little bit.

He kept doing that while he was talking to him. He's like, what is this? And he's like, also, this guy does not know what he's talking about when it comes to finances. Wow. You know, like, Eric's a legitimate genius.

Correct. You

know, a mathematician. You can't lie to him about stuff like that.

I would tell you his his theory on, on what he thinks this whole thing is, this whole you know, it's a simulation or whatever. Mhmm. You're here. He's because, you know, so so Newton there's Newtonian physics, right, which is this matter here, and then there's quantum physics, study of the electron that Einstein was the pioneer of and blah blah blah. So Einstein was working on what's called the theory of everything, which was the bridge.

How do you how do you because a lot of times, the rules in this ether, in Newtonian, in the world that we live in, are different with when it comes to gravity and light than they are on a quantum level. So what is the bridge? How do we bring them together? How do we reconcile both realities? Right.

So that's the theory of everything. So Eric is obsessed with that and kinda works on that.

He made his own theory of everything.

Yeah. So his idea is that maybe the singularity is already here, and maybe we're already machines, And we are so so what's this? So we're already machines replicating better machines, better versions of ourselves. And it's kind of an interesting because because it kind of full dovetails with Buddhism. Right?

So watch this. I'm gonna do an experiment on you that that a Buddhist Rinpoche will ask somebody. Oh, try to get prepared. Get get get in the lotus get in the lotus position. There it is.

There it is. Dude, good breathing. I'm ready. Good breathing. Too much

watching this guy.

Too much yang energy. Doing that. Bring you yin in.

DMT breathing today on Instagram. He was explaining how to spike your DMT and communicate with entities. And he was saying how you you you you you compress your your balls and your asshole and all your sex organs, and then through your abdominals, and you exhale all your breath.

Good. And you

And you breathe like this.

And then you come?

And you get that DMT flow.

Oh, is that what you get? I don't know. It doesn't work for me.

It's not working with 1 Did he

have a boner when he was telling you?

Like most of these things take a long fucking time, and I'm busy.

I'm busy, dude.

I'm busy, and I'm easily distracted.

I have

a lot of ADD. I'll just lick a toad. Alright? Well, that's like 10%.

My buddy my buddy did that shit. He did the he licked a toad. He did the toad thing.

Oh, the toad thing's odd.

He called me up. He goes, everything's different now. I'm like, alright. Calm down.

But that's 5 methoxy. That's 5 methoxy. Have you done? Methotryptamine. Yeah.

Allegedly.

Yeah.

The thing about Kundalini yoga and all these different ways where you can, achieve those states, like, Terrence McKenna had a great line about that. He's like, 1 time, the Buddha came to visit this town and this monk came to the Buddha and he said, I have practiced a city of levitation for 10 years and now I can walk on water. And the Buddha says, yeah, but the ferry is only a nickel. And that was McKenna's Sounds great. That was McKenna's take on

It's so good.

Why would you do this when you could just take psychedelics?

Yeah. That's so good.

You don't really have to fucking meditate for 10 years, homie.

Right.

You missed out on a lot of enlightenment while you're staring

at a corner of the wall. Yeah. You hear those guys a lot. That's kinda why, like, zen masters will say I have nothing to teach you. Because once you it the part of you so the idea would be you can't improve yourself.

What? Yes. Because the part of you that wants to improve yourself is the part that needs improving. So until you get out of so until you get out of your own way and you realize that you this this construct called yourself is an imagined construct. You've invented this.

So, like, Sam Sam, Harrison, and he studies the Vedanta. Right? So in, his book, spirituality without religion, he does he does this experiment, which the Buddhist will they'll have you do. They'll say, so you're watching me right now. I'm talking.

Now now there's this guy named Joe Rogan. Okay? And we know Joe Rogan's got this. But for a second, try to locate where you really are. In other words, where are you actually listening to me from?

Where are you? Where is the seat of your attention? Are you behind your face? Are you here? And if you try to do that, it's it's kind of impossible to locate where you're hearing me from.

There's this sort of echo, this idea that you're not

There's a lot of mental jerking off. I'm right here.

Sir? I'm

looking at you right here. I hear you. You know how I know I hear you through my ears? Because if I plug this 1 up, it sounds different. And if I plug both of them up, I don't hear you at all.

You're still attached.

I'm assuming the sound's coming in here. I'm right here. I'm talking to you.

You're still attached to your physical health, sir.

Like You're still attached. The children of rich kids who sit around pondering the universe.

This is Buddhism, man. Come on.

You're not even a good student. They take a backpack, and they go on a trek, and they stay in hostels because they're amazing.

I turned him I I turned him to the other room to see he's not ready yet. He's not ready. We have to break him down further. Yeah. No.

There's something to that.

All bullshit aside.

Yeah. It's really it's weird where are you? Size. Yeah. Yeah.

Because the idea would be, you can observe your your brain. So you can observe your thoughts. You can observe your your body, and you can observe your emotions. You can actually step outside and watch that stuff, and they get really good at that. Like, they get really good at realizing that you're not you're none of those things.

You might be the observer, whoever that is or whatever that is. And that's kinda where they it's a kind of an interesting exercise. That's why you see these dudes that guy, that monk who set himself on fire, right, in 1963, that that right now now David Halberstam from the New York Times said he didn't make a sound. Mhmm. They watched him, and he literally they heard the air leave his lungs, and he just fell over.

So did the lady on the subway. She didn't

make a sound either. Well, she was also probably asleep or something.

She was until she was lit on fire.

Jesus Christ. Yeah. So I don't know. But but the idea

would be seen anybody

He never moved.

Burning, covered, engulfed in flames. You might not be able to talk. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. But he also didn't move. So he stayed there.

It was incredible So

he he left his body. He was watching himself. That would be the idea behind that's what they would say.

Or he he had incredible discipline and through insane pain, he sat there.

Yeah. Well, have you have you seen those videos? How about the when the Indian army went up this is recent?

That is such a fucking crazy problem.

Jamie, bring

up the Indian army. Hold on. Pull that that photo back again.

It's incredible.

Look how insane that photo is. That guy is just sitting there completely protesting plans.

The way the president of South Vietnam at the time, who was a staunch Roman Catholic, was treating Buddhists, and he said, please have some compassion and lit himself on fire. Jesus Christ. Bad motherfucker.

Now that's a good argument for celibacy because if that guy's getting a lot of pussy, he's not gonna Well, that's right. On fire.

Because you're attached to a sensation. Yeah. So they they rid themselves to it again. Yeah. Before the I have an easy way to mouth.

I have a if you burn me with this cigar, I'd be like, fuck it. You know? I can't I can't do that.

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Yeah. I think all those things are tools to try to break out of the ego. Right? It's all the the problem that most people have is they think about themselves all the time, and the worst version of it is extreme narcissism, you know, and sociopathy. And then the the best people are the people that think about others more than they think about themselves.

Those are the people that we admire the most. The people that, like, genuinely think about other people

That's right.

A lot. I think 1 thing that I really genuinely do try to do is I try to not think about myself. Yep. I think about things that I must do. I do think about things that I don't like that I did.

Like, I don't like how I handle that conversation. Maybe I maybe I was coming in, like, a little hot. Maybe I was coming in at a 5, and I should have been at a 2. And maybe maybe the reason why I became a a, like, a contentious argument was my fault. Yeah.

You know? And I'm very good. I'm so much better at that than when I was when I was younger at, like, I can have a conversation with someone that I vehemently disagree with and keep it very civil.

Yeah. When we were younger, both you and I, we start shouting our opinion.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It was about winning. It wasn't even about

We were all retarded.

Yeah.

And we were young and stupid, and we had bad role models.

So it was like, there's a lot

of things going on there. Worst. You know, and they're like, men would shut the fuck up. They're like, men would talk like men. And, also, like, I grew up essentially feral.

I I I didn't have any, like, normal structure.

I feel like I did a little bit too. I think you lost

certainly did. You traveled all over the country, all over the world. You were in a boarding school when you're in high school. It's like Yeah.

Like 13. Yeah.

Like, we talked well, I remember talking to you about your life story. I'm like, you it's amazing you're not more fucked up. Up. Like, you should be, like, really

fucked up. That's what my aunt and uncle said. They go, we just can't believe you're not in jail or fucking on drugs or that, you know. Well, you became the best thing

for someone who's fucked up, which is a comedian. Yeah.

Right?

My parents were awesome, though. They loved the shit out of me. That was

a huge part. They're not look. It could've my parents are nice too. It could've definitely been way worse. It's not their fault.

They had a child in 1967.

That's right.

And everybody was retarded back then.

That's right.

And their parents went through the fucking depression. So everybody was just it was a vile time Yeah. With so many different aspects of our society with violence and crime and it was, you know, no 1 knew what the fuck was going on. They they had just killed Kennedy. There was like it wasn't a time.

World War 2 is trash.

2 destruction. Vietnam was ongoing. Yeah. Right? So it was a time of great confusion.

And I don't think you could ever compare. It's like we go back and we think about things that happened in the year 12/. Like, oh, the barbaric conquests of cities and sacking of of of of countries by the Mongols and all this crazy stuff. It's a different time. It's a different time.

There's different people in a different time. Our parents grew up in a different time. We are growing up in the most strange time because this is like coming out of this barbaric sort of primal history and recognizing in some strange way that we're more connected than ever before. And the electronics are bringing us connected, but also disconnecting us at the same time. Mhmm.

So there's this bizarre struggle for, like, interhuman communication and personal communicate and, like, learning how to, like, in in exchange ideas with people and talk to people in a civil way while you're also you're you're more informed than ever before. More informed on human behavior patterns and psychology. We're seeing it play out right before our eyes where you've sat you had a total polar shift of some of the key tenants of the left and the right, where the left is all for a war, the left is for censorship, the left is for whatever pharmaceutical drugs they're trying to push.

Top down authority. It's crazy. Fidelity to to to authority too. Yeah. Just blind fidelity.

Blind fidelity. And also

the left has also become very good at destruction in a lot of ways. I I'm not saying the right is doesn't have its problems, but the left has become like, you and I were talking about this. Like, if you disagree with the left, they will come after everything.

Everything.

The right kinda goes, you're an idiot, and they'll make fun of you and do a meme about you.

Yeah.

But the left, you know and that that's that's what I call the make or break machine. You know? If you look at, and this 1 of the things I talk about with my my specialist, it just you you you take Caitlyn Jenner who came out. Bruce Jenner has an operation for 8 8 hours, comes as as as Caitlyn Jenner. A minute later hours?

It was an 8 hour. The first 1 was about 8 hours. Her face? On the face. Did a great job, by the way.

By the way, how about this? Can I just say this? Like Don't

say you'd fuck her.

No. No. No. Take it easy, but I'm just saying Don't say it. I'm just saying You're thinking to say it.

How about how about a little something for the surgeon? He should've won artist of the year. That Bruce Jenner's 65 year old man. Looks like a 45 year old woman came out of it. But a minute later, won woman of the year.

Alright, dude. Listen. We all have our taste. Okay? I'm sorry that

I like 45 year old ladies. That's why I'm looking at you this way. I like me a hot 45 year old lady.

I'm saying my makeup on Glamor magazine look very good.

Like a well kept forties lady, goes to the gym, does squats,

looks good. Talking about? A real athlete.

Hanging on because she wants to hang on.

Everybody's 6 2, maybe 6 3.

When you're 23, you don't even have to

hang on. You're just there. Mhmm. You're perfect. That's why I don't take any advice on health from 26 year olds.

Yeah.

Shut your eat more berries? Shut the

fuck up. Mouth. Yeah. Shut your fucking mouth.

Come get get into my body for a second.

Hydrogen water. You shut your fucking mouth.

Off. I gotta warm my feet up to 24 years old. Exactly.

You were just born. Do you have this born a matter of months ago. Correct. Shut your dirty mouth.

Correct. I'm calcifying, motherfucker. And none of your shit's gonna help my calcification. I'm I'm dying. Arthritis.

So do I. Yeah. So do I. I gotta warm my feet up before I get out of the car. Okay?

I have a whole thing about that, but, you know, that's that that's the reality of getting older. You know?

Well, you're gonna be beat up, especially if you work out a lot. Yeah. There's just no if, ands, or buts about it. Yeah. Shout out to Ways to Well for keeping me glued together, though.

I gotta get involved.

Yeah. You gotta get involved and get some peptides and all this stuff. I I was talking to Zuckerberg yesterday, and he's, he got his knee reconstructed. I said, did you get on any peptides? He said, no.

I go, do you hate healing? He looks great, buddy. He does. He looks good. He's got a thick neck now.

I know. He's got a thick neck. He's got a perm. Yeah. He's I he's he's actually handsome.

He's got a he's wearing a jewel. He's wearing his jewelry.

Very expensive watch. He looks great. I

looked at

his watch. I was like, that's pricing.

How much was it?

I don't know. I am not a real watch head.

He he doesn't look at prices, sir.

Oh, he doesn't have to? No. No. Everything's free. He's like, I'll take 1 of those, please.

Yeah. Just smiles. Yeah. Thanks for your data. Smiles.

I'm in the deep I

like him a lot. I do too. Too.

I really do. I've hung out with him. I've talked to him quite a few times. He's a good dude. He's a good dude with a very weird job, you know, being in control of what did he say it was?

3 what billion people use? Goddamn. 3

Well, I was telling you this

billion fucking people use Facebook.

I was telling you this the other day. I think his political transformation is interesting because now there's a cynical view away.

It's from jujitsu.

I agreed. It when you do MMA and you're around others, like, men and you're out your testosterone goes up, you start to feel your body, you put your hands on the world, you can have a different perspective for real. It's gonna change it it it it they they have done studies, I believe, Jamie, you can look at some, where where when they raise a man's testosterone, he becomes more conservative, more side wing? Yes.

Yeah. Well, listen, man. And it's also a nice lesson to all those nerds out there that think they can never be a beast. It's not true. Mhmm.

It's not true. You you don't have to hate people that are, like, physically competent and and formidable. You can be 1 of them.

Yeah.

And I always bring up Mikey Musimichi just because he's awesome and he's, a brilliant guy who's, like, wears these thick glasses, always smiling. Yeah. He could fucking kill everybody in the room. Correct. Like, Zuckerberg's on his way to becoming that.

Yeah. You know, and he was, if you go back just a few years ago Defensor. Nerdy guy. Yeah. You know, who's, like, really smart, but not not really physical.

He spent his whole life up here. Now he's down here.

Well, he's talking about it. He was talking about it on the podcast yesterday that he loves training because it gives him a chance to express this side that has been demonized in our culture.

Yep. You know, his voice sounds different even. Yeah. He's getting he's becoming a man. Well, fucking broke.

Men are raised by women, in in our schools and stuff. And and because of this, probably the past 30 years, masculinity was always considered was was they were were taught it's a liability. Your aggression, your competitiveness, all that stuff. Sorry. Corporate environments,

you know, which have really, like, put the brakes on masculine behavior. And we talked about that yesterday too that, like, that's actually in some ways a good thing because it gives women this opportunity to excel as well. Yeah. You know, they shouldn't have to, like, become a man in order to get you should they shouldn't have that, you know, sexist perspective Right. Imposed upon them.

And so but it's like everything else. It's like an overcorrection. Yeah. You know, like, you have things go completely this way and then they come back like woke, like the woke ideology. It went so far right or so far left.

Now it's kinda swinging back.

Well, the the woke ideology has a major problem, which was it was reductive. Right? It would reduce Yes. A complicated world to a binary world, which which is ironic, by the way. But it would it would say sort of say, I can solve all this.

There are oppressors and oppressed. There's power and powerless, black and white.

Also, there's no forgiveness.

0 forgiveness. 0 forgiveness. Don't apologize. They'll really crucify you.

But and you can't there's no retribution. There's no way to come back.

But my 13 year old son, you can see these kids now at 13. Don't start talking to him about this shit because these kids are like they've already been they figured it out at 13. I'm telling you. My son was like, I don't feel I don't like this shit. Yeah.

I wanna do jujitsu and wrestle all the time.

Fuck off. Podcasts. Correct. Yeah. Correct.

They get to hear actual men who've made it through the maze Yeah. And aren't a bitch. Yeah. And they go, hey. Wait a minute.

That guy seems really nice and having fun.

Copy.

He's an actual man. Yeah. Like, there there's real men

out there. That's fun too. He's good at stuff. Good stuff.

Has a good time. Yeah. That's the point. Stop crying all the time. Why are we fucking Oversharing?

Yeah. Why are we promoting and propping up people who fucking cry all the time? Listen, I cry. I cry. I cry if I'm happy.

I cry if I'm sad. I cry when I think about my dogs that have died.

I have a whole joke about that. It's like, I there are a couple of things. My whole joke is this. I can't call my friends. I I I had this joke.

I was like, if I call my friends and I'm like, I'm sad. My friends can call me. You got you got the wrong number, Posy. And it's like, Joe Rogan, that's a mean way to talk to me. You know?

But it's true. I remember 1 time I called you. This is fucking great. I called you, and I remember I I my audition went bad. And it was, like, the third I I would get right there.

I was about to and back then, remember, if you got a TV show, you you you your money problems were gone for a while.

Oh, yeah.

All I thought about was I'd I get to drink great wine and buy a fucking house and take it to me. Right? You're thinking of

a nice car. Yeah.

And I fucking called you. And I go like this. I go, fuck, dude. I don't know. I was I was good.

And he goes, you can't be good. You gotta be great. I go, I know. I know. I just I I don't know.

I'm just I I don't know. I just can't I can't figure it out. I'm and I was bummed. Right? And I was basically saying I'm sad.

And you fucking go you go, yeah. And he goes, what do you wanna do tonight? I go, I don't know. I just I'm a little down. He goes, hey, you'll be alright.

Let's just fucking go out and eat and and do something. You'll figure it out. Fucking relax. Don't don't get all, like, mopey about this shit. I was like, okay.

And that was it. A lot

of people get mopey, man. Yeah. I had a lot of friends who got super mopey when they didn't get things. So think about the audition process and I've I've I've always talked about this that this is a part of the whole problem with the entire psychology of Los Angeles. Because a giant percentage of people at least had some way in the back of their head some some sort of an aspiration to try to get famous.

Yeah. So you move there, you have already of exorbitant need for attention because there's some hole in your past Yeah. In your that that you're trying to fill up with, I wanna be a star.

Yes.

And I wanna be so and then you're going somewhere. So you have this need for acceptance and then you're going somewhere where people judge you and most of the time judge you poorly.

Yeah.

Most of the time they don't like you. Mhmm. So most things you audition for you don't get. And if you get 1, oh my god, now I'm in. And so now these manipulative people that are in charge of casting you, they can essentially mold your personality based on what they want.

If they want a left wing personality, if they want you to be pro Kamala, and we need a black woman president, you they want you to say all the I I took my eighth booster this morning. Like, I believe in science, you know. Love is love. Like, they'll turn you into that fucking thing. Yes.

They'll turn you into that thing because the the entire place is about the golden ticket. Everybody wants the golden ticket. I was so lucky because I never had any aspirations about acting. I had 0 I

remember I remember you called me. Do you remember you called me? Let me just let me tell

you the whole story behind it. When MTV when I did the half hour comedy hour and then I got a development deal to do a sitcom, I had never taken a single acting class. And all of a sudden, they have this development deal. And I'm over there, and when the show that I was on got canceled, I was ready to go back to New York to be a comic again. I was like, fuck this place.

But I bought off I had a lease. I had a lease on an apartment for a year. I'm like, fuck. Right. So I have I was stuck in this.

I couldn't afford to not be in this, because now I wasn't getting $20,000 a week anymore. Yeah. Whatever the fuck I

was doing.

I was like, holy shit. And I was ready to leave. And so then I get another development deal, and then I auditioned for the second show I ever do. I only had 2 auditions ever. Hardball and news radio.

And I'm on 2 TV shows. I'm like, this is crazy. Yep. And so I never went through that whole thing. I never went through that whole this could change my life.

My life was already changed. I didn't none of it made any sense to me. I was making all this money. I had a I had a Toyota Supra turbo.

I remember. I was like, this is crazy. Remember you bought that Acura, the new Acura? The NSX? Yeah, dude.

I loved it.

You used

to pick me up in that shit. I was like, oh,

it was like a little jet fighter car. I loved it. But it was just like for me, it was all gravy. So I was watching everybody scramble for this thing, and I was examining the psychology of it and how it affects everything. Because when people didn't get auditions, when they went to auditions and you went out to dinner with them at night, they were so depressed.

That would be me.

Oh, you all the time. You all the time. You wanted it so bad. I remember when I I

didn't think it was a romance.

And I remember telling you, like, why don't you just do stand up? Why don't you just throw yourself in a stand up?

Yeah.

Like, you're so funny, dude. You're so good on stage. But when you get up there, sometimes you just like I feel like you're auditioning for a show. Yeah. That's what I felt like you were doing when you're doing stand up.

Yeah. You didn't wanna be crazy. But then off stage, you would say wild you'd say silly things. You'd be, like, well, much more vulnerable and ridiculous. Yeah.

And that was the funny Brian Cowen. Like, you just throw yourself into the

Do you remember when I was doing that? I finally got my own show. I'm doing those shows. I was like, hi, fucking dude. I I don't like this.

I wanna do stand up now. Yeah. Now I told you. The the cool thing about being 57, I'm enjoying stand up more now than I ever have. Well, you're smarter now.

Yeah. And Dom Irare said this to me years ago. He's like, Joe you you know, he was, like, in his sixties at the time. He's like, Joe, I've never been sharper than ever. You just keep doing it, and you keep getting better.

We're so lucky we're common. Fuck. We're so lucky.

So lucky.

And he was. He was better in his sixties than he was in his He was always great. He's always Sixties hilarious.

I paid

to see Dom Herrera before I ever did stand up comedy.

Dom is the best Dom. So did I. So did I. Did you? First of all, but but I was in college, and, I was at the improv in New York, and my father took me to we sat there and watched Dom Herrera.

I remember that's why when when when I come off stage at the Laugh Factory, and I was still a little in awe of Dom. And Dom goes, Brian, come over here. And I was like, oh, maybe he's gonna give me some pointers. You know? And I go I go well, he goes, you know what I love about your act?

I go, what? And he goes, you don't go for the laughs. That was like your mom. That was the best at that. Oh, he's so nice.

The subtle disk. Mhmm. The comedy disk. Mhmm.

I

became friends with Dom. Well, I think I'd actually done an open mic night or 2 before I met him. But, then, I before I was paid to see him rather. But then, not that long afterwards. So this is like 4 years later, like '92.

Mhmm. I was working with him in Montreal. We did the, That's intimidating. Yeah. It wasn't though.

He was super cool.

Yep.

Maybe it was a year after.

He's a real comic man.

Real comics. So maybe it was '93. So maybe it was, like, 5 years later. So I'm, like, real raw in comedy, but I had my feet under me at that point in time where I had some material that could kill. Like, I wasn't a really good comic, but I had a few jokes, especially sex jokes that were bangers.

Killing. They were bangers. Yeah. And, so we did Montreal together, and then I was in Amsterdam billiards. This is in my almost became a professional pool player stage.

Like, if if pool was a a real career like golf, I would have become a pool player. Yeah. I just loved it. I love the pool. You're lucky

you didn't get into

golf too.

You're so lucky. Terrified. Fucking crazy.

But, I love the the pool players. I love the this the hang. They were just so different. They were outcasts, and they were loose and fun, and we we said ridiculous shit to each other, and everybody was laughing all the time. It was always fun.

And I saw us playing pool every night. And so, I had a gig. And, before the gig, I think or maybe after the gig, I went to Amsterdam. And, Don Herrera pulls up, and he's got his own queue. And I was like, Dom, you play pool?

He's like, yeah. You play pool? I go, I fucking love pool. I go, let's play some pool. And he was good.

Wow. We we were playing straight pool, just like the type of pool they played in the movie The Hustler. It's very rarely played in America anymore, but it's an amazing game. You play with a stack of 15 balls, and you knock off 1. The first break is like a safe break, and everybody moves balls around till someone makes a mistake and leaves an opening, and that guy smashes into the balls, and then you run as many balls as you can in order.

So it's called 14 in 1.

So it doesn't matter if it's solid, it's just matter.

You leave 14 balls on the table, and the 1 ball like, you leave a break ball, and then you wrap the other 14. And so you shoot the break ball in. The idea is to collide your cue ball into the stack and keep running. So let me give a shout out to Jason Shaw, because Jason Shaw, who's 1 of the best pool players on Earth, 1 of the greatest of all time, he just broke the world record in straight pool this week, and I think I think he ran 839 balls. Jayson with a y, j a y,

do you need to stop? 839 in a row.

Fuck. Yeah. He's trying to get to a thousand.

That's insane.

So he got 8 32. 8 30 2. So the record before was set by Willie Moscone in, like, the and it was on an 8 foot table with big pockets. That was, like, 500 and something balls. So he beat that.

He ran 714 balls. So that was the previous world record he also owned, and then he just ran 832 balls. When I tell you, like, the concentration involved in doing that because you're talking about hours of play. I mean, I don't know how many racks of 15 balls is 832. Someone do the math.

I think when you do I think when you get that good at anything, you learn about you learn everything about life.

Well, he's a wizard.

And about yourself.

He is a wizard.

Yeah. But you but I'm saying when you master something like that, I'm not saying your marriage is gonna be great. I'm saying when you master something like that, it's a it's a very good way to really get to know yourself.

Here's how great professional Poole is right now. He doesn't even win most tournaments. That's yep. Yep.

Is there a nationality he can?

No. Filipinos are among the highest level on

Earth. Why? Do you know?

Well, because the GIs went there in the and they brought pool. And Filipinos learned how to play pool in very tough conditions because it's very humid over there. Oh, fuck. So humidity affects the tablecloth, and the moisture in the table cloth slows down the roll of the balls. And so you could take 2 approaches to that.

You could either, hit the balls hard, which is like the American way to do it, or the Filipinos learn to use the entire weight of the cue and have an elegant, almost like artistic way of playing. They have the most beautiful strokes.

A hit.

Yes. They have the most beautiful strokes, especially at the time. So there's a guy who came over in the and his name was Efren Reyes. And he came over under the the nom de pluor, Cesar Morales. And he was this Filipino kid.

He changed to a different Spanish name?

Yeah. Well, he went from Filipino to Mexican. Yeah. Because everybody would have known him Right. If they had ever gone to The Philippines.

Because in The Philippines, he was already robbing everybody. And, like, a legitimate wizard, a chess genius, and unbelievable widely considered, if not the greatest of all time, 1 of the mount you know, it's like MMA. Like, is it Khabib? Is it Mighty Mouse? Is it Jon Jones?

It's 1 of those deals. 1 of the absolute greatest pool players of all time. And then from Efren Reyes came all these other this Filipino invasion where they were just dominating pool, like and big money, like giant money games, half a million dollar matches. Fuck. Yeah.

Yeah. A ton of them.

And when you when you have a match, how many games are you playing? It depends.

Some of these guys will play, like, a race to a 20, whoever wins a 20 games. And they'll play it over 3 days, and they'll do it for a hundred thousand dollars.

Wait. A race? A 20 games?

20 games of 9 ball.

That's a lot.

Oh, it's

a lot. But that's really gonna find out who's the better player. So, like, if you and I play 10 games and maybe I'm a little better than you, you could win those 10 games. Yeah. You could get on a roll.

You could get a lot of rolls of the balls where I get safe a few times or I scratch on the break a couple of times. And so that's 2 more games that you maybe wouldn't have won if we were playing, you know, even. And you could win a race to 10. Like, the the odds of me winning a race to 10 if we were both if I was just slightly better than you, it'd be like, you know, maybe 60 40 or 55 45, something like that.

Yeah.

But when you get to a race to a 20, then your odds dwindle.

Well, that's a physical player always wins. A physical game too now. Now you're actually an athlete a

little bit. Well, sort of. Sort of. I mean, you have a traction for sure.

Yeah. But your body can't break down because

that means Your body can't break down. Those the best guys are all fit. You never got really big fatzos

No.

That can handle there used to be a guy.

What I love about The Hustler, 1 of the great greatest movies ever with Paul Newman, is when Jackie, what the fuck's his name? Gleeson. Jackie Gleeson said it really came down to character. He he washed his hands, washed his face, and drew a blank and came back and beat him. That that was a really interesting lesson for me as a young man.

Guys really do that too. They clear their mind. They go in the bathroom. They throw cold water on their face. They wash their hands.

Mhmm. They change their clothes. Mhmm. They just need something to break themselves out of it. It's a mental game.

Like, you know, Jeremy Jones, who's, another all time great, won the US Open, good friend of mine. We were talking about it. He's like, I think it's the most mental game in the world because it's not just about thinking about what happens. It's about execution under pressure. And then it's also about you're controlling the rotation of a ball.

Like, you if you hit it this hard, it goes that far.

But if you hit

it this hard, it goes that far. And that's what you want. You want the difference between an inch and an inch and a half. It's crazy.

Everything at the highest level At

the highest level.

Is those micro adjustments. There's a

The reason why Magnus Carlsen wins all those chess tournaments. Right?

When they say when when Rafa Nadal, who's 1 of the greatest tennis players ever, when he won Wimbledon, they're all clapping. He comes in. And the the legend goes, I don't know if it's true, but I heard it makes sense. He he's coming in. He's going like this.

He goes, I I think my grip like, I I think I wanna he's not even paying attention. He's talking to his coach. I feel like my grip should be just a little bit like that or still making micro adjustments. You just want a

little bit. You have to.

Yeah.

That's what makes them so good in the first place. I know guys who change their grip all the time in their cue. Like, sometimes they'll grab it like this with 2 fingers, and then they change it, and then they turn their wrist forward, and they'll play for a year with their wrist forward. Oh, guys do appreciate it.

Stand up. Like, look. So I'm gonna shoot the special, and I'm gonna throw it away, and I gotta start again.

Yeah.

And just because I've done 5 specials doesn't mean it's gonna be easier. It's gonna be a motherfucker because I've gotta come up with I gotta make sure I don't repeat myself. I gotta make sure I'm not upset. You got some some something to say? I took a whole

month off of stand up after I did my special because I didn't have anything to say.

You have to.

I'm like, I got drained doing that thing, especially doing it live. Yes.

I was

like, this is so draining. And then I was like, let me, like, think about what I wanna talk about afterwards.

Like and then Do you have any ideas now?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I've got, like, 25 minutes now. Yeah. Yeah.

It's it's good stuff. Like, it's fun. Do you ever get tired?

Do you ever get tired of talking to do you ever get tired of doing this podcast even though you have very interesting people?

No. No. No. No. No.

No. No. No. Oddly enough, at all the things in my life, this is the 1 thing that I I kind of net well, first of all, I choose who goes on it. Right?

So I'm always looking forward to talking to those people. Yeah. But, I love talking to people, man. I Yeah. I like it.

Like, that's like, the whole, like, moody loner thing. I don't get it. Like, people to me are awesome. They're interesting. I like being inspired.

I like being intrigued. I like trying

to see what problem solvers on this podcast too.

Oh, yeah. You know? Oh, yeah. Well, I've definitely gotten a unexpected education.

Yeah.

You know, if you go back and listen to me in 02/9 when I started this thing, I was a retard.

We all were. Yeah. I think what was interesting is we would I'd have these opinions, and I'd I'd I'd state these truths. And then, like, somebody would Google it and be like, hey. Hey, dude.

No. Yeah. It's like I had this hilarious yeah. But the fucking typical Brian count. I'm talking about cows, grass fed, all this shit.

Uh-huh. And how hey. Hey, man. I've never been on a farm. Okay?

Never never raised cows. The farmer goes, hey. I love your podcast. Brian's wrong about everything he said, but it's cool. I fucking emailed the guy back.

You know what I'm talking to him. And he gave me an education. He's like, I mean, what you're saying is just not true when it comes to how you raise cows. And there was a thousand things, of course, I had no idea. That's the biggest liability, I think, in a lot of ways.

You know who you

should talk to? You should have Will Harris on your show. Who's that? Will Harris runs, this amazing farm in Georgia where it started out as a industrial farm that his family owned, and he converted it to regenerative agriculture over 20 years. And it took him forever to do it.

What's the name of the farm again, James? White Oak Pastures. White Oak Pastures. White Oak Pastures. White Oak Pastures.

White Oak Pastures. And then there's Joel Salatin, who's a a similar guy, who, I think he was they were talking about him having something to do with farming in the Trump administration. I don't know if that's come to pass, but if it does, I I really do hope that he'll be involved because he's another brilliant guy who, runs

a regenerative farm. And Farm farming is no joke.

And what they do is essentially their type of farming is recreating nature. So they just contain nature. Instead of, like, having people, you know, shuttle all these cows into these stalls and put a fucking trough in front of them and, like, no. These these animals graze out in the field. They just control where they go.

And they eat what they normally would eat, and they make sure that they get plenty of new ground. So they move them to new ground when they've used up all the grass. They push them over there, and then the chickens do the same thing. They they have a chicken coop that's a mobile chicken coop. They push it out.

They open it up. It they run around, and then he's dealing with, like, hawks killing his chicken. So he's gotta come up with ways to

That's like he's the hawks. Yeah. This is like Mike Catherwood. You know Mike? Great guy.

Do you know Mike Catherwood? He was on, Loveline?

Oh, yes. Great guy. Yeah. I know Mike. And he

lives in Austin. So he What do they call?

What's his his name on the radio?

It's Michael Catherwood. That's right. So Mike gets Mike comes down with his his wife, who's an actress, and they're like, I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna be in Austin in the outskirts, and I'm gonna I wanna live on a farm. So he's a kid? Yeah.

He's a kid from from LA. He goes, I get here, and we got guinea fowl. We got little sheep. We got, you know, rabbits. We got a and fucking the snakes are eating all my eggs.

The guinea fowl are getting decimated by by coyotes, foxes, whatever the fuck it lives out there. Yeah. I mean, everything's dying. Coyotes. I'm just getting decimated by hawks coming in.

I'll take I'll take your bunnies. That's adorable. You think you can raise bunnies? So they're just getting decimated. Guess what they did?

What's the 1 change they made?

What'd they do?

They got 2 Anatolian shepherds.

Oh, yeah.

And, bro, he said, even the fucking snakes are on those. He's like, those fucking dogs were just like the coyotes? Excuse me, sir?

That's what they're out here. What they were bred for.

Oh my god. And they're not pets. Not indoor pets. No. Those fucking things will just patrol your grounds, and anything on 4 legs is gonna pay a very dear price.

Good.

Yeah. I want 4 of them.

Yeah. They don't fuck around.

I'm gonna buy a ranch.

Are you?

Yeah. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Been talking about it for a while.

You can live by?

Waiting for the maybe. But at the very least, we're gonna put the podcast on the ranch. Really? Yeah. Because I

wanna have a ranch.

I also want you to work a big piece of land in case things go sideways where, I can have, like, a whole community on a ranch. This is where I start my call. I'm gonna have just let people build on the ranch. Like, give them a few acres. I

got some kids. I wanna come home.

That's what I'm saying. Like, imagine if you have, like, a 2000 acre property and on that 2000 acre property, there's, like, a literal community of you and your friends, and you can go hunt on the land.

Yeah. That'd be

And then there's water, there's a lake there.

Count me in. I'll wear a tweed jacket. I'll smoke cigars. I'm not gonna do any of the work, but I'll I'll

shoot advice. Do any of the work.

Boy

There's no need for that.

Go and take care of that head.

I think it's a crazy dream. Like, it's a crazy idea to do, but isn't everything a crazy like, coming here is a crazy idea. Yeah. Building a mothership is a crazy idea.

But what if you had out, like, a a big pond with fish Yeah. So you can fish? You had land you can shoot your own, you know, camera Let me

tell you about freshwater fish.

Yeah.

Can't eat a lot of them.

Why?

Because of poison.

Oh, really? Yeah.

There's a lot of mercury in freshwater fish.

Really?

Yeah. There was a dude who, what did he win? He won some big fishing derby. He was a big time fisherman. He started getting some weird neurological condition.

And, it turned out it was because he was just eating freshwater fish all the time in some lakes. So you gotta think about rainfall. Like, you remember when we were younger, acid rain, everybody's worried about it.

It was a rain. It was a rain.

What happened to that? I don't know. It went away. But the thing about it is, like, pollutants in the air, when the rain comes down, it does bring all that shit into the water, and then it stays in that water. You know?

So if you've got a lake and that lake gets drowned on with pollution rain, you're gonna have a certain amount of toxic elements that are gonna be in that water.

Yeah. Mercury is not good for your body.

Why don't you Google how much oh, Jamie's already on it. Eating 1 freshwater fish equals a month of drinking forever chemicals water. Is that a problem? No more trout

for me.

See, that's the problem, these forever chemicals. PFAS found at high levels in freshwater fish with most concern for vulnerable communities. So, like, this is a good point about the vulnerable communities because I was filming, a TV show once in a TV show once in Detroit, and, we were on the banks of this river that was fucking clearly polluted. And there was all these really poor people who were on the banks of that river that were fishing for food. Yeah.

And not just a few. Like, quite a bunch of people that were trying to get their dinner on that river. And, you know, people that really they needed that for food. They looked real poor. Mhmm.

And, you know, there was a white, black, all kinds of different nationalities, Asians, and a lot of people. And I was like, woah. Like, Detroit is at least was in 02/12 when I was filming this thing was fucking scary. Like Yeah. When you realize how a city, which was 1 of the richest cities in the country, thereby thereby 1 of the richest cities in the world in the during the the peak of the automotive industry, and then to see it just decimated.

Decimated. And these people were just and I was like, oh my god. They're gonna eat these fish. And then I thought, oh my god. They have to eat these fish.

Well, that was the great migration. Right? So from the South, the black a huge number of black people went up to Detroit looking for jobs. Mhmm. And the problem was when they got to their first of all, the auto industry started to get decimated because it started to move toward Japan and different countries.

But also In the in in I can't remember see when the great migration was? It was before that.

I feel like everything start fucking up in the

Well, they they had jobs and there was a whole thriving community. But what really what happened also is that the auto workers union, I'm sorry, but it kept black people out of it. There's a lot of racism that went on. So a lot of people couldn't find jobs. The great migration refers

to a large scale movement of approximately 6000000 African Americans from the rural South to urban areas in North and West between roughly 1916 and 1970, driven primarily by the desire to escape racial violence, pursue better economic opportunities, and access improved education in the North.

Mhmm. Escaping Jim Crow laws.

Mhmm. Yeah.

Didn't work out.

Well, it did. I mean, and maybe in a way, it did because they thrived in those areas where they probably wouldn't have.

Well, it's like the Puerto Rican exodus from Puerto Rico to New York. They went up there looking for manufacturing jobs, then the manufacturing jobs coincided with moving south. So you had this massive number of people who didn't have anywhere to go.

In the many African Americans migrated north to work in Detroit's booming industries, yet they rarely saw the benefits. Many white neighbors actively denied African Americans access to decent living conditions and job opportunities.

There it is.

Yeah. So A lot of darkness and all that stuff.

There is. Yeah. But the

city that's left over now, you know, you've seen Roger and Me. Right? Yeah. Michael Morris film, which is, like, I think his best 1. It's like when he was pure.

Yeah. You know? He wasn't, like, ideologically captured and editing things for effect. Yeah. He was pure.

That was a bummer I saw that he started doing that. Yeah.

It is a problem, because then it makes you question everything else.

Well, the the the the the biggest thing that every mainstream publication is in crisis, and I think they've earned it. They've deserved it. The New York Times still makes money, but primarily not because of their articles that people read. It's primarily because they're crosswords. They're they're puzzles.

But, you know Wordle. Yeah. But when you take things out of context and you have journalists that are 26 years old and have an ideological bent Mhmm. People just you know, the rest of us are going, the news doesn't reflect the world I live in. Whatever the fuck you're saying, I don't know who this is.

I don't even I've never seen this. I live in a very different world, and it's gonna be interesting to see. I I I think there's a liability, though, where podcasts take the place of mainstream media in some ways because then you have somebody who's very good at talking for 3 hours, and they they can really sway a lot of people, but that's 1 side of their story. So now you have just that. So you have to be careful because sometimes it could just move things over here where, again, the truth is somewhere in the middle a lot of times, or it's more nuanced, or there's just more to know.

It's definitely more nuanced. I think, there's always gonna be a real problem with people that don't really know what's going on, say they know what's going on.

Yes.

When they say they know what's going on, it confuses everybody and fucks everything up. And it's another version of gaslighting. So CNN and, you know, MSNBC, they gaslight you. They gaslight you and they they they actively promote propaganda and narratives that are not objectively true. And the problem on the other side is if you are in opposition of that and you say you know this and you know that, but you really don't.

Like, you gotta be real clear with what you say. They have to people have to really be able to try like, if you don't know, you have to say, oh, I didn't know that. Mhmm.

You

have to say that. Yes. If you do not say that, no 1 is going to listen to you anymore, and they shouldn't.

Right.

Because the difference between someone who's completely independent and a podcaster and someone who's on CNN should be that no 1 is telling you what to do. So what is your ethical compass?

What's the evidence too?

Right. What's the evidence? But also, what's your ethical compass? Are you trying to win and be correct, or are you trying to find out what's going on?

But it's also about ratings. Right? So if it was CNN, you gotta you gotta Yeah.

But it's not because I don't think about ratings.

No. You don't. I'm saying

But that's why I have them. That's right. See what I'm saying? Like, it's not about ratings. Right.

Like, ratings come if people believe you.

Mhmm.

Like, if you sit around thinking about the ratings, do you think you would be on?

No. No. What do you mean?

You'd be on this show right

now. Ashton probably is, like, saying things. Yeah. How'd that come across? Can we do that again?

Let me do that again. Get it. Yeah. You didn't even catch it. Oh, you fucker.

Oh, wait a minute. Hey, you motherfucker. You're saying that Mark Zuckerberg and Mel Gibson get better better ratings than me?

Occasionally. Occasionally, they do. You fuck. I like talking to everybody. I don't I genuinely don't give a fuck, like, how the show's gonna do.

I don't think you can. I think if you do that, it'll distort what you do. And I think we've all seen people who, fall victim to what they call audience capture. You know, they start getting, a crowd, like, you see with a lot of guys, like, online, they start saying, like, a lot of wacky right wing things, and everybody,

like, yeah.

Finally, someone's telling the truth. And then they become just, like, a a fucking

Well, that my my my compass for that is this. Whenever I hear somebody say on a podcast or whatever, when they say, you guys, all those people over there are wrong. I'm I'm the 1 whistleblower. I figured out. I'm the 1 now you do have Mavericks, but I always am weary of when I hear somebody go, all that the entire medical establishment is wrong, and I'm right.

And I go, I don't think so. I think it's way I I I I just don't think you know enough. I don't think you as 1 person. I'm not gonna just put all my bags. There is something called a scientific consensus.

Sometimes that could be a bullshit consensus. We can be told we can be told the climate scientists all agree.

It's

not true. It's just how you get funding. So sometimes the incentive structures are there.

And the same with the medical establishment.

Correct. Let's just be a little bit Yeah. Let's be a little bit more Yeah.

You can't say you know things. Because I've heard people who are those kind of people say they know things about me. Yeah. Like, oh, you know, that you can't use your phone on his show. I've heard people say that, like, confidently.

Yeah. Well, the CIA

is right here.

Confidently say that, he's handled by the CIA. Listen, Mike Baker is my friend, and I'm pretty sure he's still in the CIA. I like him. I like him. I have him on because, like, here's a guy who was a CIA operative, like, let me ask this guy how and I really do believe he's a patriot, and I really do think he's a great guy.

And I think there's a lot of them. And I and I'm I don't believe cops are bad, and I I don't believe any of that bullshit. I think there's bad people in every fucking business. A lot of comedians that I think are rotten cunts. Yeah.

I don't like them. Yep. You know, but it doesn't mean I hate comedians. I love comedians. Right.

But there's some comedians that fucking suck. And if you encounter those comedians and that's your only exposure to comedians, you're gonna think, oh my god. These guys are all selfish assholes and narcissists, and they Yes. Rob people and Yeah. It's just a few.

It's just a few of those.

I also know some CIA people, like, real CIA people who and you talk to them and it's like they're always like this. They're always like, dude, I I wish we were as competent as people say. I mean Yeah. If you were involved Talk

to Evan Hafer.

Like, he's 1 of my best friends. I had breakfast with him today.

Love that guy

I love him.

To death, and he's fine. He's not too easy

to see your stuff. Yeah.

I love him.

Yeah. I just said this to him too. He's that he that was

his business for a while. Correct. I I know a bunch of those guns. Correct. And you need, you need, you wanna know how the real world works?

The real world works?

Yeah.

Talk to Evan. Have a conversation with Evan.

Andy Stump says same thing.

Same thing.

I said to him, I go I went to his wedding and I loved everybody there because they were all his closest friends. Evan was there and 7, I just that was the first time I met Evan. And and I'm just talking to these tier 1 guys and they just seemed so intelligent and they were so and they were. And, John Dudley was there and a lot of, like, great guys. But I'm talking to some pretty cool people, right, who who who have done a lot with their life, and they were well rounded and everything else.

And I said, man, I I just think it'd be so fun to be in that in a tier 1 unit because they're just all so they're so smart and they're just they just have such a wide breadth of knowledge. And he goes, god, you're so fucking wrong. That's Andy. Andy's the best. Andy had 1 of the quickest past

black belts I think I've ever seen.

Oh, is he a black belt now? Yep. Well, he lives with a black belt instructor.

That's the thing. When your wife is a black belt, you better get your fucking p's and q's in order, son.

Yeah. Yeah. But dot your eyes cross the street. That dude is so fucking smart. He's another guy who's very smart.

Genius, but also, obsessive. Like, he got obsessive with bow hunting, became very proficient at bow hunting very quickly. Yeah. And then, you know, living with a black belt, though, what a huge advantage. You can just drill with your wife.

He's also a c f t 6 guy, so he's got some physicality on his kinda hot.

You know? Your wife's triangle strangling you.

That's kinda hot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You know? Yeah. And she could probably kick his ass in the beginning.

Leah Leah is built like a true athlete.

Oh, yeah.

You cannot be light in the ass.

Super smart too. Yeah. Super smart. Why? Which, like, I think most black belts are.

I think it's just there's too many things you have to consider to get that good at jujitsu. There's so there

It's infinite.

Yeah. You could be a brute and just brute strength your way through a lot of it and, you know, be kinda halfway dumb and get to black belt maybe. Maybe. My only regret is not to

go down that rabbit hole. I I I'm I'm I train now.

I wake up every morning going,

Yeah. You don't train much anymore. Right?

No. I want to, though. This is the thing. I'm trying to rehab my fucking knee. My knee is the thing that's keeping me from doing it right now.

I twisted it when I

joke is

just roll up.

That happened to me the other day. I I trained at this, this in in Nono's MMA who I I love it down in Hermosa. And, I I I love doing it, but I, of course, I'm rolling with a 26 year old and I'm like, let's go. And, of course, I'm 57. I see his ankle.

Don't give me your ankle, bro. I'm an ankle guy. I pick his ankle, drive him to the ground, walk and poke that ankle. Back on back, bro. I'm a wrestler.

High school. How tired are you? High school, dude.

Real quick.

Had trouble looking left for 11 days. Alright? Fucking worth

it. Yeah.

You know?

That's why Well, you gotta when you're old, you gotta roll in a different way. You gotta roll like, roll with Jean Jacques Machado. Okay? Jean Jacques Machado, who, was, you know, my instructor since 1998. Is still rolling and still dominating black belts on the mat.

Yeah. When Jon Jock rolls, he never moves fast. There's no fast. Yeah. His knowledge is so wide.

His understanding of he's talking to you, Joe Hogan.

Joe Hogan, I'm about to pass your guard.

Like, he's talking shit to you.

That's whatever he wants.

But it's smooth and slow. And because of that, he does not get hurt. Yeah.

You know

what I mean? He's had a a few injuries over the year, but when it taught when you you you deal with, like, high level black belts who roll on a consistent basis, and Jean Jacques in his fifties now, he is not hurt. He still, like, looks fantastic. He's, like, filled with energy. He trains all the time.

Yeah. Sometimes I'll train I'll train.

Do that ape shit that you did when you were 23, like, fucking wrestler.

I I don't get I don't get hurt when I'm rolling with somebody who's really good. Yeah. Fuck that.

Yeah. You can't be that guy. You gotta, like, you know, you gotta move slow. Yeah. Slow and strong.

I like to talk shit to guys who are way better. That's fine.

Then you gotta be flexible. That's the other thing. You gotta really work on your stretching and your flexibility. You have to maintain your mobility. I was watching Arman Tsarukyan, who's fighting Islam Makhachev, for the lightweight title next weekend.

Monster. And he was doing this mobility and flexibility routine. You're like, this is insane. He's so jacked and so mobile, like, more than I think anybody I've ever seen.

Well, part of that also, I think that 1 of the people don't talk about this. I think the is the Russian. It was like Marab.

Look at

this dude. Oh, Jesus Christ.

That's the dude who's fighting for the lightweight title. And by the way, they fought a few years back, and it was goddamn.

Dude, I thought I was I thought I was straight this whole time. Goddamn. Shit.

That dude isn't even flexing right there.

That's a good looking man. I mean, that's a strong man is what I meant.

Good looking and strong. God. I'm gay. You're correct on both?

Jesus. What a monster.

Yeah. Homeboys. Well, that

but by the way, his coach is a gold medalist. I think his coach is a gold medalist Olympic wrestler. Here's the thing about those guys. I think 1 of their advantages that nobody talks about is that when you get a guy like Khabib, you get these Dagestanis, you get these Russians, these these Armenians and stuff, they've been training probably since they were 6. Yep.

And and so what happens is your tendons and everything gets really, really strong. And, also, if you ever watch, like, Alexander Corellin, the way they would warm up Oh, yeah. Those guys like Corellin could do a backflip, go to splits, and all that. Those guys, the way they warm up was it was scientific.

Yes.

And and so because they knew that the micro damage that happens and so they would they would strengthen all the connective tissue first. And I think a lot of times, like, guys like Murab, guys like, Nurma, Omar, Since they've been training so long, their bodies are different. They feel different. They are different. They're more rugged, so they don't get injured.

They don't deal with injuries. Then 1 of the biggest things that is is a hard problem, guys.

They all get injured.

They might get injured. I think they get injured less. They probably do. But they train they train differently.

You're definitely right that their bodies are stronger Yeah. Because they've been doing it since they were younger and that they get developed in that way. Yeah. But they're all the the opposite is true, with striking. Like, not the opposite, but it's also true with striking that if you start striking when you're in your thirties, you're never gonna catch Floyd Mayweather.

Never. You you just You need that radar. Well, you need that your body needs to be sort of, like, developed to strike.

Yeah. But you also have to be like, if you look at the the boxers, like, if you look Floyd Mayweather, his father and his uncle said to him, like, they knew. They were like, boxing is just about as much about not getting hit. Like, you can be great and everything else. If if your emphasis isn't on every time you throw, you gotta be in a position where you're not gonna get hit.

Every time you step, Casa Mano is that way too. Every time you you throw, you step. Right. And and that huge part of that is it was all a foot game. And all of that is if you haven't been trained properly, as you're learning how to box, you're gonna get take a lot of damage.

Mhmm. And you're fucked. You're fucked after a while. And if you look at those really good coaches, those old guys, Eddie Futch, who taught who would teach the jab, your hand was here. Because instead of here, you were you were taking shots, you you would be here.

So if you watch him fight with Ken Norton when he fought Ali, he said, when you fight Ali, Ali's here when he when he jabs. He's doing this. I want your hand here so you can see Norton catching Ali's jab and then boom answering back and catching Ali in the face. Those little details make, like, literally all the difference in whether you box 5 more years or if you're done 5 years earlier.

Well, the best example is Floyd. Right? Because he got hit less than anybody ever.

I can count them on my hand.

Yeah. If you wanna say, like, who's the best boxer of all time, I always say Floyd because he got hit less than anybody, and that's the whole thing. And by the way, didn't have the kind of power that any of these other guys had. Didn't have that, like, that Roy Jones When he was

younger, he was a power

puncher, but But he broke his hands a bunch of times. Yeah.

That

was part of the problem. Yeah. And but even then, like, he wasn't a robust guy.

Right. You

know, so he was just

Wasn't Germain? I mean, what's his his name? Trevante Davis or anything?

Right. Right. Well, that's a great example of a guy with just preposterous power, you know, just preposterous power. Did you see Artur Beterbiev who is, fighting Dmitry Bivol?

Yes.

He did a a hammer workout on a tire where he hit a tire for an hour.

He did? For an hour.

What? He hit a tire for an hour with a sledgehammer.

These Dagestanis are made of different fucking

He's Chechnyan.

Is he Chechnyan? But same shit. Mountain Hummel.

He's out Chimaev. Savage people. Yeah. And he's the 1 of the scariest boxers of all time. The only fight that he had as a professional that went the distance is Bivol.

I know.

The only fight.

Did you see when people would have

He was 19 no. With 19 knockouts. That's fucking insane.

When you have your hands up with him, he'll still concuss you. Yeah. He hits that hard. Oh, yeah. Just basic too, like, ones and twos, maybe a hook once in a while.

There's a great video where this boxer who was, you know, a world class boxer, who's a professional, got brought in to box bitter beef. And his coach said to him, just do your best. He's like, do my best. Do my what the fuck are you talking? Do my I'm gonna fuck this dude up.

And he goes and he hit me the first time he hit me. It was like nothing I'd ever experienced in my life. Like, it was almost like my body left me, and I was like, standing there. That's your job, dude. Better be of is hitting people too like this.

Yeah. It's all short. Yeah. Everything is short, and it's just But he'll hit your arms. Power.

But they'll hit your arms.

Oh, yeah.

He'll break your arms down. And then by a super round 5, enjoy that shit.

Canelo does a lot of that. He does a lot of that. He smashes guys' arms.

I think the best option.

Up with him.

Yeah. You

don't want that guy punching your arms. Well, I've always said that about look at look at his workouts with his wrists and fists.

Yeah. It's really cool.

This is his warm up. Better be of his 1 of the craziest specimens because he's almost 40 years old too. Yeah. So he had this endurance fight with Bivol. So it's 12 rounds of super high pace.

Yeah. Very endurance heavy. And he was the 1 that was dominating at the the last round. Correct.

Correct.

That that's Feb. 22. I'm fucking pumped for that fight.

You're gonna fight again?

Oh, yeah. This is a rematch. I'm very pumped for that fight because Bivol is so goddamn good too. What he did to Canelo, like, no one's ever done that Canelo.

I think the best fighter I I think you can make an argument for certainly top 3 fighters of all time I'm right. I'm right. I'm gonna do. Is is Usyk. Yes.

I think he's incredible.

Incredible.

I mean, I I've watched every 1 of his fights. That dude is on such a different level.

He's smaller than everybody.

He's fighting giants.

He's fighting giants.

When you're fighting a guy who's 60 pounds heavier with with 10 ounce, 12 ounce gloves Mhmm. It makes such a world of difference. Trying to Especially

when the guy is fucking Anthony Joshua. You know?

But please understand, Usyk fought at, I think, 75 when he started out. He's not a big No. Strange guy.

He's, like, 2 25, 2 30 as a heavyweight. 2 20.

Not even

2 20. Not big. Not big.

And that's a lot of By the way,

that was Tyson's weight when he was in his prime too. Yeah. There's something to be said for that because a 220 pound man like Mike Tyson can knock out any human being that's ever lived. Yeah.

Your job.

The amount of power he can generate is, insane. So then you have the speed of being only 220 pounds instead of 2 90. You know? Or, like, remember when, Andy Ruiz fought Joshua the second time and he got real fat? Yeah.

So sad. Yeah. Because, like, you had a real chance of, like, carving out a legacy. The the knockout in the first fight was fucking huge.

Yeah. He has speed. Oh my god. And tries to shit.

His fucking boxing combinations are so fluid. He punches like a middleweight. Yeah. Is he a bronze medalist? I don't know.

No. I think he is. I think

he is.

I think he did medal. Great boxer.

Very, very

skilled boxer. Super nice guy too. When he came onto the podcast after he beat Joshua, he had a fucking diamond encrusted watch. He came in a a Rolls Royce.

He did. I was like, let's go.

Let's go, Andy.

Let's go. I like it. We gotta get you an accountant, though. Don't spend too

much money now. Yeah. And probably don't get to 280 pounds. Yeah. The problem is then all of a sudden you're a superstar and you're partying and you have a cervezas and hanging with the boys.

So then I think there's a also, you've gotta you've gotta take the responsibility on of being a champion. It's hard to hold that. It's 1 thing. It's like starting a business. You can get you can get people to know about your your business.

It's running a business. It's very different. A little bit like you get getting the belt and staying staying champion.

Maintaining champion. I remember Matt Hughes when BJ Penn beat him. He told me he goes, honestly, Joe, it's a weight off my back. Wow.

And I

was like, really? And I was like, it makes sense though because he was just smashing everybody, and he was the person that everyone was chasing.

Yeah.

And it's like, god, I fucking weigh out your psyche.

That's why Jon Jones to me is just What is this, Jamie?

He didn't win. He didn't win?

In the qualification tournaments for the Olympics.

Oh, he didn't go to the Olympics. Okay.

Okay. But he did win

a bunch of other stuff.

He represented Mexico in the 2008 Beijing Olympic Games qualification tournaments Okay. Losing to oh, Cuba. Cuba, man.

You ever watch how you guys train?

Oh my god.

The Cubans are amazing because they they don't hit mitts. Like, you'll you'll have a guy, and they're just moving, moving, moving. And once in a while, the coach will lift a glove, not 1 shot. You know, moving, moving. It's awful.

Where it is.

Yeah. It's all for work. You throw 1 punch, you know,

they They, like the Russians, developed a very technical and very technique oriented way of combat sports. Yeah. That's why the Russians were so good at Olympics at at wrestling rather, because they were so technical where the Americans would just try to work harder than everybody else. Yeah. And the Russians, like, figured out, like, don't know.

There's a time you work hard, and there's a time you recover, and you have to have active recovery. And they got real scientific about their physical training, real like, Dan Gable, when he did the podcast, he explained to me how he learned, sauna from the Eastern Bloc people. Really? Yeah. He's like, he they started incorporating saunas.

Like, this is another added element that raises your endurance. Why? Because they would train hard and then after training, you sit in that sauna for 20 minutes at a 90 degrees, man. Your heart is hammering. So you're getting static cardio.

Also, it has an EPO like effect where it's like a mild dose of EPO. It raises your red blood cells. Really? Yeah. My endurance is raised significantly when I started doing

so far. Cold plunges? There's that's controversial still. Right?

Well, cold plunges is not controversial in terms of the way it makes you feel. Okay? So the psychological benefits of the increase in dopamine levels and norepinephrine, that is a % established.

I thought that.

I think that is 1 of the most powerful aspects of the cold plunge. Also, what's been established is that when you do the cold plunge before exercise, it raises testosterone. So there's something about doing the cold plunge and then forcing your body to heat up through a warm up and then going through your workout that raises testosterone for people. Mhmm. And there was a study that was done where it showed this guy went from having an extremely low, testosterone level to having a testosterone level where his doctor thought he was juicing.

Wow. And all he changed was he started doing cold plunge before every workout. Put your body under stress. It's not good after workout. Really?

No. Because you want high hypertrophy, and you want muscles to grow and strengthen. And part of that growth and strengthening is inflammation. So that inflammation is actually good. Heat, on the other hand, is good after workouts.

So it's good for the effect of, it raises your red blood

count down. So Dan Gable said he would do a sauna after working out because it raised his endurance.

Yes. It raises your endurance, and the the Eastern Bloc athletes already knew that. Fedor was famous for using sauna. Wow. Yeah.

Fedor would use sauna and cold plunge, so they use hot and cold therapy. So, Huberman recommends doing that once a week, and what you do is you go back and forth and back and forth. You always finish on cold, though. Always allow your body to reheat itself up. Don't finish on sauna.

So you would do cold plunge, sa or sauna, cold plunge, sauna, cold plunge, however many cycles you wanna do it, but he said that raises your human growth hormone level. The Swedes do that. I did that

in fucking Sweden where I was with all these vikings. It's fucking so funny.

Well, the Finnish studies on sauna are amazing. What it's shown, these are long term studies over 20 years. It shows that people who took the sauna 4 days a week for 20 minutes at a time at a 75 degrees had a 40 percent decrease in all cause mortality compared to their peers. 40 percent decrease in all cause mortality. Heart attack, stroke, cancer.

40 percent decrease. Because the heat shock proteins, the stress on your body, it makes you more resilient. It makes you more more vibrant. You have more energy, and you have less inflammation after it's over. Wow.

Your body produces those heat shock proteins. You feel amazing when you get out. You feel loose and relaxed.

You have a sauna here?

I have a sauna everywhere. I don't I don't fuck around, dude. I even have a portable sauna that I bring with me. It's like a blanket sauna that's 1 of our sponsors. What's that called?

I'll hug you.

What's that blanket sa sponsor sauna called? Find that sucker.

I have to pee.

It's really good. You wanna pee? Yeah. Pee right now? Let's go pee.

We'll pee right now. We'll be right back. We'll be right back.

There's a scene in a book called Blood Meridian where the guy chops the dude's head off with that fucking knife. Let me see that bloody knife.

This knife. Who gave me this?

I don't know.

Someone cool. Sure. Don't fucking ruin it for everybody.

I mean, that's a knife. I don't know what you'd do with this if you were if you had to

Nothing good.

Clear brush.

Yeah. I don't think it's a brush clearing knife, son.

What is this? It's a hacking knife. Yeah.

Who gave me that?

It's when it's when you're you're coming in and you wanna just clear it. Clear house.

No. You're an asshole. You have a giant knife on your table. That's what it's for.

What's the knife for? Just in case, bro. Oh, okay.

When the president came, they had to take those, axes off the wall. Really? Yeah. When Trump came in crazy. I might go crazy and grab 1 of those and impale them in the forehead.

Those axes look like they actually would work too.

Oh, those are real.

Yeah.

These are the Jack Car Tomahawks.

They they look like you can throw them.

Well, I don't think you throw them. I think you're fucking

sturderer. Yeah. Wow.

You know?

Ow. You heard me.

That away. You're making me uncomfortable, buddy.

Yeah. I said I

was gonna grab by the blade like

Something aggressive about a knife.

That's very aggressive. This is a very aggressive

knife. Yeah. That's a ridiculous knife. That's like little that's overkill. Do we know who

gave it to me?

I'm looking. That's like somebody if somebody wears that on their belt, I'm like, your dick is tiny.

That's incredible. Or you're a fucking

complete psycho. Or you're

a psycho. Or you're living in Downtown Los Angeles right now. That's right. That's right. That's what's gonna be really crazy.

Well, I I wanna see what happens because I think first of all, rents are gonna go through the roof. This is gonna be crazy. There is a major Where's your gonna live? It's a major housing shortage. This is a major problem.

Where are you gonna live? Where are all these people in the Palosade's gonna go? There's thousands and thousands

of people

who find themselves.

I think people who own I'll tell you what's gonna happen, I think. I think people that own houses that are not in fire zones, even if they're small, are gonna sell their houses for millions of dollars. Because you got those very wealthy people going, I need a place. Name a price. And your house might be worth $2,000,000.

You're gonna sell it for 4. Wow. And that's what's gonna happen.

I really don't. That's gonna be even more fucked.

It's gonna be completely fucked. And remember, you know, Los Angeles has been the worst at the worst at building affordable housing or just housing in general. All the permitting you gotta go through, all the red tape

Yeah.

They can't do it. There there's there's so many issues. There's so many issues, but especially housing, especially. We have what is it? I think poverty rate in Los Angeles is, like, second to none.

The schools are terrible. The homeless situation is, I think, the second. But, hey, it's sunny. Yeah. It's sunny.

People are really pretty.

Yeah. Yeah.

And there's a lot of TikTok stars there.

There's a lot of TikTok stars, and that's that's good for our culture. That's good for our culture.

What was the name of that sauna blanket again?

Boncharge.

Spell it.

B o n.

Boncharge. It's a blanket? Yeah. It's a blanket. Yeah.

You could carry it with you when you go on vacation and sauna the shit out of yourself anywhere you go.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm not doing that, but I appreciate it.

It's I live by sauna, man. If if I had to choose between 1 thing that I eliminated. Yeah. If I had to take cold plunge or sauna, I would take sauna all day. I think cold plunge is very important, and it's really good for just my mental state.

I just like that I force myself to get in there. I like it. I win every day. I win.

Well, I said to you when you signed that deal, I go, you I I say this to people about you. You've not changed even a little bit. Well, if anything, you've calmed down. You have peace of mind. But you've not changed as, like, in terms of, like, you know, you you become a very powerful, influential person, but I've never I haven't seen you change.

I haven't seen you like, it hasn't gone to your head. I said, why? And you go, I think it's because I do something really difficult every day, and it just reminds me of what a bitch I am.

Yeah. I break myself down every day.

I think that's important.

I think it's everything because I think mental health is attached to that. I think too many people have too much anxiety and too much, like, woah. Success can do that? Yeah. Well, the pressure.

And also, I don't read comments, which is huge, you know, because a lot

of lot of people out there reading comments and they're read 1 comment.

I was

talking to Zuck about that yesterday. I'm like,

you gotta stop reading comments.

You read comments? Yeah. I'll tell them to stop.

Yeah. It's so bad for you.

Comments. It's so bad for you. I've never read 1 fight especially good ones. I don't wanna hear it. I Yeah.

Because it's gonna have power over me. I don't wanna hear it either.

I appreciate them. I appreciate people. Even the bad comments, I I get it. Look, you know, if I was 15, I would be the worst fucking poster on Twitter Give

you a troll.

Of all time. I'd be a total troll. I'd be on 4chan. I'd be on all those things. I'd be talking mad shit all day long.

Yep.

You know that kid, Matan? Matan? He's a that kid the Israeli kid who's, like, 17 years old and a complete troll. I did his podcast. It was so fun.

But he's just like that those kids at that age, they are about just there's no reverence to anything. No. They wanna tear it all down.

They wanna tear it all down. Also, it's all about making them a living getting eyeballs on you. Yeah. Right? That's what their their business is eyeballs.

Yeah. So if they can slap someone at a supermarket or, you know, fucking scare someone in line at the grocery store or whatever the fuck they do to get attention.

Yeah.

That's their currency. Their currency is attention.

Yeah.

And if you beat their ass, it's actually good for them.

That's right.

There's no there's no way. Really crazy.

Yeah. It's such a It's just a different Yeah.

I mean different time. It's the end of Rome. It's the

It's the end of Rome.

It's the collapse of of of of a really sick civilization. And, you know, the thing that you're seeing, like, with this whole, like, woke fire department, which is, we're talking about that lady saying if your husband's in that burning building, like, that they want someone who looks like me, who like like looks like them, like, that's not what they want. This is but this this is all like this ideological, like, bizarre cult that these people have fallen into that leads to the collapse of great civilizations because the people that worked hard to make this, like, very easy life, those people don't get respected. And then the people that you think are the marginalized people that should be elevated through equity, these people that haven't done anything, now you're giving them all the power. Yeah.

And you're also letting them be the bullies of the bullies now. Right? So they got picked on their whole life. Now they're we're we're kicking ass now.

That's right.

We get things done.

I mean, it was

Pride magazine in the whatever website. I'll send you this because it's real. See, like, see if you could find that, Jamie, so I don't have to look for it. But the, the the headline said the LBGT fire chief is showing that she can get things done. Really?

Yeah. This is in the middle of the biggest disaster in the history of Los Angeles.

Death.

But saying that she can get it done shows she can get it done. Like, what does get it done? Yeah. What does that mean? Yeah.

Run out of water? Collapse society? What does it mean?

I don't know if that the blame lays in the fire department, by the way, here. I think you you watch. I'm gonna make a prediction. I'm I bet you it's already happening. I promise you that the progressive government in Los Angeles and in Sacramento is going to blame not infrastructure, not government incompetence, not mismanagement, but climate change.

I promise. Watch.

Well, good luck with that. Good luck with here it is. Amid Palisades fire, Los Angeles first LBGTQ plus fire chief is proving lesbians get it done.

Yeah. Excuse

me. Lesbians get it done. Yeah. Not she gets it done. I I it's even dumber than I thought.

Don't believe it. She's proving lesbian Her sexual

proclivity is really what makes it

So what does that mean? Like, Elon Musk is proving heterosexuals build rockets?

Is that what that means? It's just identity politics.

It's not. It's nonsense. It's nonsense people writing nonsense things. It's so fucking dumb.

It's placing it's placing a group above an individual. Right? So treat that person like an individual. I don't give a shit that she's into women. I don't care at all.

Who cares? If she's competent, if she's competent, I'll I'll I'll fucking vote for her all day. I don't know if she is. I I don't know enough about her record, though.

Call it climate change because LA's been like that forever. The reason why they filmed in LA in the fucking first place was because LA doesn't have rain.

That's right.

That's why they started putting Hollywood down there.

Until what happened? It got too expensive to do business, got too expensive to shoot in LA. Yeah. Taxes and everything else, it got too expensive. It is too expensive to open restaurants or anything else in LA.

So you've got this great this great sandwich chain I I'm obsessed with called Snarf's. Right? I like just like their I think they have 1 and all. Yeah. You brought them here.

I love What do

you mean you think you have they brought them here. Yeah. Yeah.

I brought them here. Yeah. I love I love their sandwiches, dude. And and, you know, that company is so good that I I literally was I wanna get involved in the franchise business because I think it's it's up it's they're crushing. And I and they will not open in in Los Angeles.

It's too expensive. There are too many a friend of mine who you both you and I both know has businesses in Texas and businesses in Los Angeles, and a lot of them. Okay? I'll tell you who it is later.

Oh, I love a suspense.

So in his California businesses, he's been sued over 1000 times. I think it's 1002 times. 1002 times in the 18 years he's been in business. In Texas, he's been sued once. Once.

And in that case, they were right to sue them because they did something wrong. And it's pretty interesting because there's literally a difference in culture. There's a difference in the notion of I'm responsible for my actions, somebody else is responsible for the state I'm in. And that is a that is a mind virus that has taken over Los Angeles, taken over California, in my opinion. A lot of this is just mindset.

And I think it's very ironic with all due respect because I have a lot of friends who lost houses in the Palisades area and everything else. But and I and I'm if you had walked through the Palisades, you would have seen a lot most of them voted for Karen Bass. I'm not saying Karen Bass deserves all this blame, but I'm saying there was a lot of Kamala stuff there, the very very little Trump stuff. And it's ironic to me because I do think to an extent without having done enough research, but I've I've done some, that you have to lace at least some of the blame for this total inability to respond to government mismanagement. And the fact that this government, this progressive government in California, in Sacramento, in Los Angeles, put things like, climate change and social justice ahead of fucking basic infrastructure basic infrastructure.

You knew that they were predicting and they knew how how dry this season was. Fucking 8 months without rain. Okay, guys? So we need to figure out there is a way to solve every problem. You gotta do you if you do you need an army of firefighters?

They cut they cut to 17%. I know.

They cut 17%. 17600000.0 dollars from the fire budget in Los Angeles.

Wasn't it 17% or was it

$1,760,000,0.0.

There you go.

That's what I read. See if that's true.

I thought it was percent, but maybe it's I think

it's 17.6. Maybe that's what it turned out.

Million, but $17.09. It did. Yeah. It's it's a thing

I don't know what that means. I don't know what that means. I don't know

what that means. I don't know what that means. I don't know what that means. I don't know what that means. I don't know what that means.

I don't know what that means. I don't know what that means. So they only cut 17,000,000 out of 800. But still,

why

would you cut anything out of 1 of the most important things? Obviously, now you know. Now you know that was a huge mistake. Now you know you should have increased the budget.

Yeah. Well, to your to your point, this was a perfect storm to an extent, and there's there's a limit to what any fire department can do. There's a limit. Right? We live in Los Angeles.

Fires are a reality. Earthquakes are a reality. Mudslides are a reality. We know this. It's a it's California is a tough place to live.

That's great, but there are a lot of liabilities. I just think if you know that that's the case, something went wrong. And our infrastructure the fact that our fire hydrants and it happened in Colorado 3 years ago, but the fact that the fire hydrants lost pressure, you you can predict these things.

Right. Well, again, I bring it back to Trump because Trump was saying that this all could be solved, and he was right. What he was saying is true and that they are doing it to protect a fucking smelt that exists The delta smelt. That exists other places.

I love the delta smelt. I don't What does that thing look like? Let me see what a delta smelt looks like.

I don't give a fuck about those things. Neither do I. Yeah. 17,000,000 last year. She directed more.

For 2023, '20 '20 04/00 fiscal year, Los Angeles allocated 837000000 to Los Angeles Fire Department, accounting for roughly 65% of the $130,000,000,0.0 budget designated for homelessness initiatives.

Which didn't work.

What? 65% for homelessness initiatives? Didn't work. Roughly half the budget for homelessness went unspent. These motherfucker

say something else about that. These motherfucker. The homeless thing too. You talk to you talk to progressives about the homeless thing. You know what they'll say?

It's a housing shortage. Oh, yeah. No. It's not. It's a drug and mental health problem.

Housing. Housing. Housing.

Yeah. Sorry. Housing. Housing. Housing.

Yeah.

And we can't fix that.

It's a mental health drug problem.

So I'm talking $24,000,000,000 last year. 24,000,000,000 in California. Complex. Yeah. That's what it is.

It's a bunch of people making money off of nonprofits.

Of course. Yeah. And so there's there's a vested interest in keeping homeless a problem.

Yeah. The real problem is that there's homeless at all. Like, how is that possible in the greatest society the world's ever known? But because we've put very little effort into stopping it. Very little effort into education and fixing people's mental health problems and mental health institutions for people that are sick and twisted and real solutions like Ibogaine, real things that they can do to sort of reset people's minds and help them get out of it.

Real programs to help people integrate back into society

I know a guy who's

in a meaningful way.

Tier 1 guy who was dealing with real demons and he did 1 session of Ibogaine, and it changed everything.

Yeah. Well, there's a lot of people like that. I had the former governor of Texas, Rick Perry, on, and he was explaining it.

And that's surprising that Rick Perry, who's, you know, a Texas conservative Yep.

Yep. He was very reluctant, and then he knew someone who came back from the war and was suffering and, you know, he got involved and

Does it it it plays it repairs the neural pathways or

something like that? Yes. It helps people with Parkinson's disease.

Wow. Wow.

Yeah. Really crazy. Completely rewires the brain of addicted people.

Damn.

Stops the pathways, gives you an insight as to why you're addicted in the first place, like, what little weird fucking patterns you have in your head. What what what are you escaping when you're trying to, like, load up on heroin? It's crazy, but it's illegal. What this is the the nuttiest part of it, and this is the beautiful thing about what Rick Perry is trying to do and explaining it very eloquently that it was all established in the to combat Richard Nixon's political opponents. So the anti war movement, the civil rights movement, they made all those drugs illegal, the sweeping act of 1970, the Psychedelic Drug Act, where they were just trying to demonize these things that these people were using.

That was like, you know, the flower child movement, the hippies, the anti war people. They're like, we need to figure out a way to lock these motherfuckers up.

Well, they did a really interesting study on or there was a guy journalist at Kim Russo who was talking about they they drew this comparison when the music movement happened with Hendrix and all those guys. When they were taking psychedelics, incredible things were going on musically. Oh, yeah. Once they turned to cocaine and heroin, the fucking died. Hair

baby. Yeah. Well, I was bringing it back to cars, you know, because I'm a car freak. The cars of the were the greatest fucking cars America has ever created in terms of the way they looked Yeah. The iconic view the the the image of those things, and it all died around 7071.

Everything after '71 is a piece of shit. Why? Except a few Corvettes look cool. But because they they needed to become first of all, then there's the gas crisis. So cars started becoming less powerful and more economical.

And then they started making them out of plastic, and they just looked like shit. And then they weren't doing the drugs anymore, so they would their design sucked. If you go back to design, like, 1 of the classics that I always put out, like, let's look at a 1969 Mustang. So this is

Bring that up.

Acid, marijuana, whatever. These people that were designing these cars were like freaks. They were weirdos.

Yeah.

You know? Because they were artists, and they designed these things that just to this day, you look at them and go, fuck. Fuck. Look at that.

Yeah. It's a

Look at that. That's the that's the reason why John Wick killed everybody. That's it is. They stole his car. They killed his puppy and they stole that car.

Motherfucker.

And John Wick killed everybody. That is a fucking work of art, man.

Whiplash, fucking engine corrosion. Goddamn that's

a work of art.

That's safe.

1 of the most beautiful things human beings fuck the Sistine Chapel. That's 1 of the most beautiful things human beings have ever created. Look at that guy.

Is that a catalytic converter, carburetor, whatever?

Shut your mouth about that. This is Texas. Pull all that stuff up and fucking roll roll coal

right up the highway. It gets like a block a gallon.

Yeah. My, Wow. My Raptor, my Hennessey Raptor that has a thousand horsepower, I get 9 miles to the gallon. Suck my dick.

It's so

Look at that thing. That is a different 1. That's a, that's a a yeah. That's a classic restoration.

There's nothing for me. Classic

Recreations does, a resto mod version of it, but that's the, like, the right from the factory version. Both of them are gorgeous.

Does it come in electric?

They do make them in electric. Honestly, yeah. There's a company that takes old cars and turns them electric.

That's exactly what I guess.

Well, a lot of people have a problem with it. Everatti does it.

I like the ultimate. I like people with that Aston Martins. Those are cool.

Oh, fuck. Gorgeous, man.

Yeah. That's incredible.

Pull up Everatti. Everatti is a company that takes old Porsches and they do old Mustangs and they convert them and make them fully electric. Wow. Yeah. Wow.

But they look really cool, but you're missing the whole point. Of course. The whole point is

it's wanna feel the road.

It's a work of art. It's a mechanical experience.

I drove a 1985 Targa. Oh. Dude Oh my god. It's a a stick shift.

Oh, yeah.

What a beautiful car. You feel everything, but goddamn, it's beautiful. I mean, you're just zipping it. You know?

Well, it's so light too. It's so engaging.

That's a great car.

Oh my god. Those are the best.

That's the only time I've ridden driven a car and I went, I get it. Like, I've never been in cars. I I drive a I drive a Tesla 3 with white interior, white exterior. I wanted a gay as I wanted to be as gay as I could.

It's still an incredible car.

What is

car. Very rugged website. So they do a bunch of different stuff. So let's go to the '19, 09/00 Porsche 9 11 9 6 6 4 Signature. So look at that.

So they take this 964 Porsche, which is 1 of the most beautiful years

Yeah.

And they turned it into this insane electric beast. Damn. Yeah. Incredible car, man. I mean, sub 0, 0 to 60, sub 4 seconds.

It goes

into 200 miles. I got a beautiful looks too. Oh my god.

New electric Porsche, which is But look

at the range.

It's fellas.

Up to 200 miles. Shut the fuck up.

Up with that range.

That range is nonsense. It's nonsense. The up to 200 miles is when you're driving really slow.

It's a hundred miles.

But I bet that thing is super sick to drive and goddamn it looks beautiful. But wouldn't it be better if it went

when you started it up? I think it should be that should

You wanna hear that. You wanna hear that. Yeah. You wanna feel the engagement of the clutch. You wanna pull the the gear lever down in a second.

You wanna let off the clutch and hit the gas.

You wanna have to wait until

it. I'd I'd like what they're doing. I think it's cool. Whatever. I'd rather I'd take that car and I'd gut it.

I'd gut it and put a fucking real engine in it. It looks beautiful.

But What can I pick 1 of those up for, like, a regular car? 1

A regular 1?

$9.06 4.

You there's a bunch of different companies. There's a company called No.

No. No. Not not electric.

I'm sorry. No. No. No. No.

A regular 1. There's a company that specializes in air cooled Porsches. Go to Sloan. What's air cooled? Sloan that's those, the old ones.

The ones that you drove, the 1 that 01/00, that's a that's an air cooled 1.

I love that car.

The old ones are the ones that yeah. That's it. So this place, specializes in, Porsches, but particularly air cooled Porsches. They've got a lot of air cool go click on, like, available cars. So inventory.

I don't

know. That's nice too.

So a lot of these are the expensive, more modern ones, like the 1963. Like, click on that 01/00, '80 04/00 09/00 11/00 Carrera. Look at that. 26000 original miles. That's a gorgeous car.

Oh, dude. That's a joy to drive.

Yeah. It's

beautiful. That car is a joy to drive. 5%. Oh, it's got to be very expensive because that car. With such low miles, that thing's probably meticulously maintained.

It looks incredible. So so

you're not picking that thing up for you?

No. No. No. That that's an expensive car. Hundred grand.

And by the way, not very fast. It's not fast.

Yeah. But it's

That's not you're missing the point.

But it's the handling.

It's the it's the feel. Yeah. It's the experience of driving. It is so analog. It probably doesn't even have power steering.

Fuck. It's brand new.

Oh, it's basically brand new. Whoever

So you

think that That's amazing. They they probably sell that for Couple hundred thousand dollars.

Couple hundred?

Yeah. Jesus. At least.

Okay.

I would imagine. I mean, it says contact us for pricing, but if you wanna get 1 like that, a stellar model with twenties look, if you get a a 9 11 from 1970, like a 9 11 RS, a good example is a million dollars. What? Yes.

Oh, Jesus Christ.

Google, 9 11 19 71 9 11 RS immaculate for sale. I guarantee you they're over a million dollars. Yeah.

Because they're just very And

your your Model 3 will blow that thing away in every way, shape,

or form.

Handling, speed, especially if you have the Model 3 performance.

That's why I like my car so much. I like the Tesla. It's They just go. So easy.

They they make every other car seem stupid.

I know.

But it's a different experience than driving that thing. That thing is an amusement park ride. Yeah. Like, that thing is a

That's like grinding your own coffee. It's something about it. Like, there's a there's a manual.

The sensation.

There's a tactile sensation.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Lighting your own fire on the grill and cooking over hardwood coals.

I think there's a huge value to that, like cooking. Oh, yeah. Like, the the the the fact that it takes you take time Yeah. To get good at something like cooking the perfect beef stew or whatever the fuck is.

Oh, yeah. Especially if you're cooking over fire. It brings you this caveman Dude. DNA smell of your brain. Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Also, it

makes the food taste better.

And abundance comes with a price like everything else. Sometimes that's a lack of connection. Sometimes just the the actual process of doing shit, like, the actual process of preparation, all that Uh-huh. Is a form of flow that you get into.

Yeah.

There's a great book called Beyond Boredom and Anxiety by, Shkicsson Mihalya. I don't know what the fuck his name is. He's like this, Hungarian scientist. He compares the flow state that rock climbers, surgeons, painters, and conductors get into. And and it's all very similar because it takes incredible concentration.

When you're rock climbing and

you want

to pull rock climbers look at the painters like, bitch, you are not

in the

same flow state as you motherfucker.

It's very that's no. They're not because it's life and death. Right?

Cool site that shows average sales, like, it's a stock almost. So 5 have been sold for an average of $708,000.

Oh my god.

Isn't that crazy?

My lord.

That's crazy. That's

That's insane. 5,000,000.

2 point 5 million for that 1. Click on that. Can you click on that so I

can see couple of them with tickets stand up. Let me

see what it looks like. There

it is.

Oh, there it is. Let's see if we could find it.

God. Dude. By the

way, it's a lot of that is like a a a dick measuring contest. Like, that I have a pristine model.

Yeah. They don't drive it.

This is like a Jerry Seinfeld type vehicle. Like, he would he would own 1 of those. Yeah. I have a, 1993 RS America. It's a 09/64.

I know you've seen it, that little red Porsche that I have. Yeah. No manual or no power steering, no air conditioning, no nothing. It doesn't have a radio, it doesn't have jack shit. Raw.

It's so raw. It's so raw. It's it's it's raw and rowdy. It sounds loud. You feel everything.

Every time I drive it, I'm like, why don't

I drive it? Do you know when I used to have that that fucking Bronco? Yeah. With a 03/50 Windsor or whatever the fuck it was. I don't know.

Carburator. I just

I remember you came to my house in the house.

Dude, I would get dizzy on the highway.

I broke the gas pedal.

Fucking the gas pedal. And it had no top. Dude, I thought I was gonna pass out. I was like, I went to the mechanic. I go, I think I'm gonna pass out.

I was all panicked. You know, he goes, that's just the way it is. I go, what do you mean it's

the way it is? You're dying slowly, but you're living more. Fuck.

You sold that thing for $500 or so. I don't know. I was like, get away from me.

I was so happy when you bought it. I like when you get irrational. I I want you to be more irrational. I think it's good for you. I was

that 1 with dogs too. Yeah. Oh, is it a fighting dog? Really? Let's get it.

I think that, a little bit of irrationality for comedians is very good for you.

%.

I think it's

pretty irrational.

You gotta have a little bit of fun in you.

There's a

fun auction coming up in a month.

Oh, yeah.

All these are for sale, coming from Paris.

Oh, that Alfa Romeo. That little thing right there? That little Alfa Romeo nicely, I guarantee you that's fun as fuck to drive to. It looks shitty. Oh, it looks shitty, but I'm telling you, you feel every fucking bump on the road through your ass.

Yeah. No problem. I never got into those, 3 5 6 Porsches.

Yeah.

I think those look like a fucking VW Bug. They do

look like

a VW Bug. Yep. But that right to the right of it, the '92 RS

That's cool.

That's what I have.

Yeah.

I have

1 of those with a ducktail. I have a red 1 with a ducktail. I love it. Yeah. I love it.

Well, you

know what it is? They're per they they have a personality. Mhmm. There's something about getting into my I had a girlfriend who had a a vintage Mercedes, and I swear to god, I got attached to that car. It it felt like an experience.

I was getting there Oh, yeah. And I I I it had a personality almost. It was like a

A %.

You know what I mean?

A %.

Because somebody had made that. Somebody had taken the time. A lot of that shit's made by hand, I think.

Well, they're definitely put together by hand. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, especially back then. But but

but but considered by craftsmen. A %. When something's really considered by craftsmen and and you can't you cannot replace the feel of, like, something that's been crafted out of the door. Red 1 that

of 1970. Look at that, son. Oh my goodness. That's a beautiful piece of machinery.

It's an artistic it's an expression of a gorgeous street, man.

That is such a gorgeous car. Yeah. That is fucking beautiful. That's European, brother. And it's so light.

Those cars are so light, dude. That's like a £2,000 car. Really? Yeah. They're they're so little.

Yeah. When you're near them, they're so little.

You know how much my 3 weighs? Almost 6000 pounds.

Oh, they're very Isn't

that crazy?

They fuck up, those, borders. The fucking tank. What are what are they called? The the the rails guardrails. They go right through those things

because they're too heavy. My my car

are meant for regular sized cars.

I didn't know that guy car.

Gorgeous that is. Look at that damn thing, man.

Fuck it.

God. It's so beautiful.

Jesus.

Fire extinguisher. That guy maintained that motherfucker.

Yeah.

That guy knows how to drive, I bet. Look at that steering wheel.

Restoration in 02/3.

I picture myself 02/3

restoration? In

a tweed coat.

Oh, it's so gorgeous. I bet that's a hundred and 50 thousand. How much is that? Jesus.

Yeah. It's gonna be auction. And

I've given him away.

Waited for a hundred and €80.

A hundred and €80. So more. So a hundred and €80 is, like, 200 and something thousand, which makes sense. It's fucking beautiful, man, and they don't make them anymore. You know, if you want 1 of those and when you drive it, I guarantee you have a fucking smile.

You'll have a fucking smile on your face. But it only has a 80 horsepower.

Jesus. Yeah. That's fast.

They're not fast. No. Even mine has 300. Mine only has 300 horse, and I had it juiced up a little bit to get to 300.

I was gonna say. Yeah. It sounds fast. Worms.

It's not fast. Not fast. Not fast.

No.

No. But it doesn't matter. It's just fun. It's engaging.

You used to like big trucks too, though. You like the Denali's and stuff.

Oh, yeah. Well, I have the Raptor. Yeah. It was a Hennessy Raptor. I still have you know why?

I like to see what's going on over there. I don't wanna be at the same height as the cars. When someone slams on the brake, you can't see what's going on. Well, up here, you could see someone doing something stupid, like, 5 cars ahead. You're like, oh, Jesus.

And you it's safer.

Way

safer. To be in a lifted truck is safer. You see things more.

A %.

That is is very important. Yeah. It's very important. Like, you the the elevated viewpoint for a safety perspective is important.

Right.

Yeah. And you get used to that. You like it a lot.

I think that's the kind of car you take out on a countryside. Like Oh, yeah, man. And you wear a scarf.

You wear gloves. Gloves, scarf,

and you wear the glasses. I wanna be European so badly sometimes. Yeah. And your and your lady's doing this. You're going too fast.

Yeah.

And you're like You don't go with a girl. Go by yourself.

Oh, by yourself? Yeah. You don't go with it. Really?

You don't wanna hear that.

Doesn't she?

Shut the fuck up. Fuck. Shut the fuck up.

That's different. That's hot.

Cars in the

Well, that's that's preposterous. That's a $4,000,000 car. Yes. That's a Pagani.

Well, I mean I don't even know how

to say that.

How do

you say that?

It looks like a fuck It looks like an Urraca.

That's a monstrous vehicle.

Yeah. But it's also ridiculous. Yeah. I mean, does it come with a flat

or 50 horsepower? Here's the thing. That's all great. That's all fast. But that can't fuck with a new Corvette.

That's a track car for sure.

It's a track car, but it's not even as good as a track car as a new Corvette. The new Corvette z r 1 is 1 of the greatest cars the world has ever built. It's over a thousand horsepower. A thousand. Over a thousand horsepower for the new Corvette z r 1.

It does 0 to 60 in under 3 seconds. It's gonna break all the records. It's probably gonna break Nurburgring records. It hasn't even been released yet. It's a fucking amazing car.

It's the greatest American car.

In what because it's just reliability, everything, or what?

Everything. They're reliable. They're fucking, incredible looking. They look like an exotic car. This is the new z r 1.

Does it have volume? Can we hear what it sounds like?

Hi. I'm Brad Franz from Chevrolet Marketing.

Brad, you fucking knocked it out of the park, Brad. This is an an amazing vehicle. Downforce. This this vehicle is faster, handles better than that stupid fucking $5,000,000,000 car. That thing's the shit.

That's America. Fuck yeah. In a car.

Yeah.

I mean, it's so stupid. Yeah. How could you go to a a dealership? Look at that carbon fiber wheels. How can you go to a dealership and buy a 1100 horsepower car?

That's insane.

Look

at it with a giant

wing on

the back of it. It shouldn't be, but it is. And that's why it's America, motherfucker. And is that Look at that thing.

Is that,

Drag to rotate

loose again? That was on there necessary or Yes. It is. Yes.

Because you wanna look like an asshole.

That looks great.

Yeah. You can get it without the fan.

Because you wanna look like an asshole. Yeah. That looks good.

The it's downforce. It gives you more downforce. Right. So it'll actually slow your top end speed. So the high end speed will be, like, 205 miles an hour instead of 2 15 or whatever the fuck is.

I like that. That's a good look right there. It's a gorgeous car. Stupid thing.

That is a fucking beautiful machine.

Does the fin come up or something? Or

Well, no. It's just down it's adjustable, but it's downforce for the track. Yeah.

I like that. That is

an amazing car for the track.

That's a good looking car. And they make

them in a convertible. Check out the convertible.

Well, they're not they probably they won't break your

bank probably.

Right? Or are they very expensive? It's about

$200 Oh. Before, you know, markup and all that other jazz. I think it's 1 2.3 0 to

60. Jesus fucking low.

9 second quarter mile right from the factory,

motherfucker. A 9 seconds. That's what you need. Fucking. That's what you need count.

You do. It's very special kicks it and you you start selling out giant theaters. Dude.

Let's go, baby.

Let's get a little

in your life. Yeah.

I still run away from looters.

Once I start selling theater tickets.

Yeah. Once you get the fuck out of Los Angeles.

I know. I I gotta do that. You've been telling me that a long time. Listen. This might be the 1.

I talked to my wife. Is. If but I have my other kids, so I got my I have 2 families. You know? Talk them

into it too. I know. They come out here, they'll they'll realize, like, oh my god. What have I been doing?

Fuck were we doing?

What were we do? Why why?

1 of us friends came here like me, traveling from Texas is way easier than traveling from fucking Los Angeles.

Ron White told me that in 02/18 when I started thinking about Austin.

Jesus.

He moved here before any of us. Ron White was the original.

He was

the original the the the Texas setup because he was he's from Texas. He was, I fucking love Austin. Food's great. People are nice. It's in the middle of the country.

You could travel anywhere. I was like, wow. Can I live in Texas? I started thinking about it. Like, can I live in Texas?

And then when COVID hit, Ron being here was 1 of the things that moved me here.

Really?

Yeah. I was like, I love Ron. At least I can hang out with Ron.

He's he

he's 1 of the greatest

comics, period. I I watched that motherfucker, and I'm like, and he's still doing it at his age.

Killing it. How old is he? He's a thousand years old.

Yeah.

And he's better now than ever. Unbelievable. Better than ever.

I love that.

And he's at the club every night. He's there all the time, all the time, killing it. Killing it.

Incredible.

And just the best fucking human being. He's just the best guy.

He seems like

So when he was coming here in 02/18, I was like, maybe I could go. I don't know. I can't live in because I had always been trying to escape LA forever. But then it's like my business was there, the comedians were there, and the store was there. There was, like, so many things there.

It took something like COVID to make us all, like, just take this crazy chance and move to Texas.

Yeah. Well, these fires I feel like these fires are kind of almost like

Very much like the same thing. Very much like the same thing. It's the same kind of experience.

Hand me that bad boy. You're gonna have 1 too.

Yeah. Let's go, Ryan, Kellen. Men. We're smoking cigars like men. It's I like

this new, this thing.

Having a guy like Ron here, though, was like, okay. Well, if Ron at least I'll have Ron as a friend. At least it'll be and then Tony moved here. I was like, oh, shit. Tony's here.

And then I remember 1 time I talked to Segura, and I was like, dude, it's fucking awesome. I love it here. He's like, fuck it. I'm moving. Really?

He was he was here quick. How do I open this?

Yeah. Oh, you just here. You can

use this 1 because

you're just stupid. I'm an idiot. I'm like, I can't do I can't figure shit out.

How come you can't figure things out?

Because I'm bad with that stuff. Okay? That's why my wife was like, get out of here. You can't do it. I'll take care of it.

Like, raise my kids. Save them. Tell my story. I'll be in Austin. Sorry about the fires.

Tell them to watch your special. Tell all the kids at school to watch daddy special.

They watch they watch daddy special. It's gonna be good. False gods. I'm excited

about shoot. YouTube?

Yeah. I'm shooting the move. Yeah. I think so. Right?

YouTube's the move because you get the most views for sure. Like, look at Shane. I'm trying to You have a great that's awesome. You get a great set. You put a great set, and the the club is the best place to film.

The audiences are so hyped.

Well, that's what I thought. I was like, I'm gonna I would rather, like, shoot it here. Mhmm. You know? And, because you did that club right, man.

You did that club right. This is makes such a difference. You know? Yeah.

Well, a lot of it's because of Ron. If it wasn't for Ron and then 1 time when we did shows, we're doing shows with the Vulcan, and Ron hadn't gone on stage in, like, 8 months. And he got off stage, he grabbed me by the shoulders. He goes, whatever the fuck we gotta do, we're gonna keep doing this. He goes, you gotta open up that club.

I was like, okay. I gotta open up the club. Wow.

Because I was like, I gotta open up a club. I was like, you know, it's 1 of those things, like, I'm so fucking busy. How am I gonna do this?

That's a lot. Right?

How am I gonna handle this? How am I gonna handle the stress of the business and a hundred employees and I it turns out you don't have to. Just get really good people to run

it for you. That's it. That's it. I get a kick out of you because I don't know. You still have, like, for this podcast, what, 3 people that work for you?

I mean, 4, but, you know, more than that.

Well, yeah. We have, Brandon, our video editor. We have, Matt who books everything, young Jamie, and moi. Yeah. That's it.

My buddy is they're gonna start podcasting. Well, we gotta get a production team. Gotta get this other I'm like, hey, bro.

Gonna need a production team if you don't have Jamie. The thing is Jamie's a wizard, and he's also a little bit on the spectrum. And, Jamie can

What side?

The good side. You're on the good side. You're on the fun side. You're, like, totally socially aware.

You're 1 of those You're fun to hang with. Stoics. He's like a stoic.

But Jamie's just on the ball and, like, his ability to pull things up while we're talking about him, while he's managing the the podcast, like, no 1 could do that. You need, like, a team of people to do what he does. But then you gotta deal with a team of people that are just, like 1 of the coolest things about Jamie is how, like, first of all, we're friends, and he's the easiest to hang out with. Like, Jamie is so easy to hang out with. So it doesn't matter who's in this room.

There's no weirdness or, like, oh, this guy is complaining about that guy out there. Be

he's not trying to be anything he's not. So what happens in that position is that that's kind of a big job.

Right.

And it'd be very easy to go, I'm part of this podcast. I'm a huge part of he doesn't get his ego Well,

that's happened to a few friends of mine where they had to get rid of their producer because their producer was like, you know, we did this. We and he's like, hey. He pointed cameras at a comedian that was already famous. Like, cut the shit. Like, this is fucking stupid.

But we all have our role. We all do our thing. Just don't get Yeah.

But it's like, what happens with a lot of these people is they develop these podcasts and then they have I go to my friend's podcast and he has 10 people working for him. And I was like, what are all these people doing? What do they do?

What

are they doing? Like, this is crazy. Like, why you have all these people? And then they have interns. I go, you have people working.

You're making millions of dollars and they're working for free? Like, I don't agree with interns.

Yeah.

Like, I would never have an intern. If I had an intern I would pay

that person.

I would pay them. Yeah. 100%. I don't even know if you're allowed to pay certain interns because they're supposed to get, like I'd break the law. I'd break the law

and pay them.

Just don't

be a paid intern. It's fine.

Can you have a paid intern in a college? Yeah.

I think what happens is it builds resentment if you're not 100%. You gotta be careful with all that.

Well, that's a problem with rich people when they have assistants too. Yeah. Like Al Madrigal had an assistant once. He was like, yeah, I gotta get an assistant. I go, no, you don't.

I go, listen to me. Do less shit. Yeah. Just do less shit. I know.

If you you need an assistant, you don't

I need an assistant. No.

Do less things. Yeah. You don't want then, like, I remember when David Spade had an assistant, the dude tried to duct tape him, and the guy, he tasered him. He was gonna kill him. Yeah.

Guy went to jail. Fuck.

Henry the eighth said something like that.

Also, my

friend promote somebody, I create every time I promote somebody, I create 8 enemies and 1 integrate. Something like that. I think that was the the quote. It's great.

Yeah. But didn't he kill a bunch of his wives?

He was terrible. Henry Lee is just a fucking idiot. Maybe he's just a piece of shit. You know what he did. Right?

He so the Catholic church, he wanted a son, and his wife was barren. And he he, he wanted an heir, and the Catholic church would not codify his divorce. So he was like, okay. I'm gonna start the Anglican church. Fuck off.

I'm gonna start my own church, and it's gonna okay. It's gonna be okay with divorce. So he created the Anglican church. And the great story of A Man for All Seasons, Thomas, sir Thomas Moore, was Thomas Moore would not join the Anglican church, and they killed him for it. Right.

And he said, I am more than my appetite. I am more than, you know, my body. I am my principles, and my principles are higher, and I'm gonna stick to the Catholic church. Kinda like, you know I

wish I was his friend.

No shit. Right?

Like, yo, just join another church.

Well, we all would. Right?

Listen. Don't get a lot of shit done. Okay? Alright.

I was in acting class as you remember remember that. And 1 of the kind of a famous actor, he did the scene. This is so great. Yeah. He did the man a man for all seasons.

And as he you know, so you do a scene. And then, you know, a lot of working actors in the class, this is Los Angeles, and we all sit back, and now the great teacher will now break it apart. And he, the actor, began to weep. And they said, why are you crying? He says, because I'm I'm not this man.

I would have joined the Anglican church, and it bothers me that I'm not the kind of principled man that would stick to

At least he knows.

That was pretty cool.

At least he's not that guy. I wish I was a Navy SEAL. I'd kill everybody.

Yeah. He was 1 of my favorite actors too. And I was like, there you go. At least you know your fucking limitations. At least you know.

Never say what you would do in an emergency. Because you don't know.

Also probably why he's a great actor. Mhmm. Because he was aware of everything. I think so. Differences between him and those other people.

You know? Well, you better know you're vulnerable. Like, you walk around like a tough guy.

Right. The the real tough guys are the guys that have done a lot of shit or who've seen a lot of combat or at least been involved in like, Evan Hayford, for example, has probably done a lot more than he he never talks about any of it. You'll never hear any him say anything. But and for that matter, Andy Stump's the same way. They don't really tell you anything, but they're very aware that, first of all, it's very easy to be killed.

Very easy. Yeah. I don't care how strong you are, what you bench.

A A tiny child can kill you with a gun.

Right away. So you you you get a real sense. Part of what's really good about just doing combat sports or doing any kind of, like, even a rough sport, contact sport, is that it it it comes you come into contact with objective reality. It's very hard to start living this fake existence. And part of the problem, I think, with our society is a lot of people controlling the narrative don't really pay a price for being wrong because they live a life and they live a job where they're working where where they're working with their mouth.

They're working with only their brain. And I think you get a lot from actually trying to grow your own food or doing whatever it is. You know? You've gotta kinda come in. You own a farm, and you realize that life eats life and things everything nature, mother nature is a motherfucker and wants to kill everything you try to grow.

It it gives you a very different perspective on reality and what the world is about.

Oh, for sure. Yeah. Well, that's a giant problem with urban environments.

Mhmm.

That's why urban environments all get to these sort of esoteric philosophical ideas about what society would be like because they're completely separated from the circle of life. Yeah. They're buying all their food from either a restaurant or a grocery store. They're they're not farming. They're not doing anything.

They're enjoying meat without any death. Right.

You ever see Steven Pinker's book The Blank Slate?

Yes.

You know, the the the when, the anthropologists can't remember their name, they they I think they were at Harvard, and they came back from studying the Yanomami Indians or whatever in the Amazon Basin. They were like, hey, guys. I know you think just white Anglo Saxons are aggressive, and we have a culture that rewards male aggression. Those people have never been in contact with anybody white or western, and, the guys that get laid the most are the guys that killed the most people in combat and have their hair on their daggers. So they they have their version of a fucking all star quarterback too, and he gets all the pussy.

And and they were like, what the fuck? And they literally attacked their their reputations and everything. They they drove them out of academia. It's crazy. Turns out that that was true.

It should be obvious. It should be obvious. Like, that this is there's, like, been a series of events that human beings have gone through that have developed this certain people. Like, we we understand. It's an understanding that certain people are better at survival.

Certain people are better at being the leader. Certain people are better at warriors.

Yeah. And life takes a certain amount of aggression and competitive spirit. Oh, yeah. Or you're gonna fucking get eaten.

Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah.

You're gonna get fucked. It's really what happens. That's right.

For sure.

So don't don't you it's great. I love that we're all it's all utopian until your kids don't have enough to eat, and then I'm gonna kill that's what happens. People are really kumbaya until your kids have to struggle for resources, and then they become genocidal. Jared Diamond, who wrote Guns, Germs, and Steel Mhmm. Did the study with the fucking, the people up in the Guinea Highlands.

The minute the minute they they started running out of resources, they would they would start coming up with stories about the other tribe over there that were basically yeah. They eat their own kids. Yeah. They're fucking really evil. Oh.

Just to just to whip up just to justify what they're about to do to that other tribe. Yep. Because they got their stuff. Yeah. Human beings.

I mean, there's beautiful things in urban environments in society where you don't have to struggle. Yeah. You don't have to

do that. So you can

you can get much more involved in art.

You get more questions.

There's a lot of things that people can achieve when they have that sort of shelter, but there's a balance to be achieved, you know, in our society, the influence. And the problem is the influence of these people that are detached in urban environments is so significant because there's so many of them. There's so many more people that are detached than are connected that we have is, like, very weird, like, appreciation and understanding of resources and of, like, just how hard it is to just survive without modern conveniences.

I I had a I think what changed me a lot was when I was younger, I I I was accidentally around some pretty rough people, some criminals, people that were bad, violent, or, you know, and I think I remember going I remember it's very scary when you're around people that are, you know, like that. And I never forgot it because I was pretty naive as most of us are coming up because I've been around a good family and stuff like that. And I saw how ugly and dangerous some men can be, especially when nobody's looking. And it I never forgot the idea that

Especially in the areas that you grew up in.

That's right.

I mean Well,

I lived in remember, also, I was in the war in Lebanon. Right. So I think How were you? I was, I left in I was I left Lebanon when I was I went to I was I was 11 years old.

Yeah. So just imagine experiencing that as a 10 year old boy.

Yeah. And then I went back. Remember, I went back when I was, I think, 15, 16, and I didn't recognize anything from my childhood. So I was in Lebanon for 5 years. And so I had wonderful memories.

And then the war broke out, and we were stuck. My father couldn't get back in because he he he he could he was and then we got evacuated. But I was living in the in the Holiday Inn for 6 months, and we had to sleep on the floor. And then finally, we had to we had to go down into the fucking underground parking lot because they were bombing. And you would wake up and you would hear machine guns and stuff.

So you felt very out of sorts and very, very it was very scary. You know? You're a kid. You know? And I remember seeing on a balcony, I remember seeing planes bomb a gas station.

I never forgot it. I never forgot seeing the planes come in and the the missiles dropped and just you know? And and the sound, dude. The sound. And I don't know if anybody anybody's been in war knows this, but I was on the beach.

I was on Coral Beach, and it probably was it was in the I was a young young I was 14, 15, 16, whatever I was. They shot a rocket over our head. Okay? And I think it was a test fire. Dude, when I tell you that the sound was so loud that we all fell on the ground I fell down on the sand.

The sound was so disoriented that that you you everybody went down on their hands and knees. That's how loud it was over your head. And I think that that that when you are in that kind of proximity to violence like that and then later on when I was older, I was around some some people who were pretty rough. You know? And I for me, I always I I knew that if the grid broke down, that those people were gonna take over, and there was gonna be no fucking mercy, and I've never forgot that.

And so you could see with COVID, the minute that, you know, law enforcement had to restrict their resources, you saw what happened, looting, you saw crime, you saw homelessness. And the fabric of society can break down so fucking quickly. People don't realize it until you've been in countries where it's happened and until you've been around men who negotiate the world in a violent way and maybe in in in ways that are a little bit outside the law. You don't know what you're doing, man. You you you got no idea.

So all those people, and I love when the left starts talking about, you know, violent revolution and you're in college, kid. You have no fucking idea. You don't first of all, don't wake up that and don't wake up the conservative. Don't do that. Let's not even talk about it because I know a lot of guys that shoot real straight, you know.

And often.

And, yeah, and often, and they're very comfortable. They're really

good at it.

And they're comfortable in those violent spaces.

They're kinda ready.

They're they're yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's not let's not Yeah. Let's not let those dogs slip.

Have you seen John McPhee?

Yeah. I have. The mayor of Baghdad. That'd be a good example of a guy. Like Yeah.

That is a guy. Yeah. Just You know?

His body just comes from enforcement. His Yeah. Traps he just looks like a giant block. Yeah. He's a he's a born enforcer.

Yeah. He's not gonna win a Nobel Prize for peace. No. You ever hear how Tim Kennedy talked about him? Like Yeah.

You put him in a glass case and break in case of war? Yeah. Yeah. Let's keep those guys Uh-huh. On a let's keep them Yeah.

Over here on a Thank

god that guy found jiu jitsu too.

And that's why an outlet. Yes. And and please understand the base of our republic also is that we have civilian control of a military. And that was a huge when in the election between, I think, Madison and Jefferson, the idea was was it Madison or was it, Adams? I can't remember.

But in the the the the election was, should we have a standing army? Because traditionally, in a republic, if you had a standing army, a a very charismatic general like Napoleon would take over the army and take over the country. So that was a huge thing. James Madison was a genius at figuring out how to how to limit that. And he said, checks and balances, but you have to have civilian government in control of the military because military people arrive at military solutions.

Yeah. Fucking really important, man. Really important. You don't wanna don't let guys like John McPhee, you need him in war. Right.

But God bless, but let's just, you know

Well, you've had Eric Prince on your podcast. Right?

Very smart guy. Have you had him on?

No. I haven't. Man, I really enjoyed him on. Was, another guy who was talking about, like, what to do with Africa, and I was like, Jesus.

Well yeah. Yeah. He used the word viceroy, and he did it on purpose. It's like he he, but but but Eric comes from a position of how to solve problems. Yeah.

When he was talking about the, when he's talking about Gaza, he said, we have the ability to frack. What that means is we can drill sideways. He said, you could've filled those tunnels with seawater instead of bombing the shit out of, you know, 70% of it and killing all those people. You could have flooded those fuckers out because you you you you drill and I don't know if this is true. I don't know anything about fracking, but he does.

And he said, you could have drilled fucking this way, fill take the Mediterranean, fill all those tunnels with seawater, and they woulda had to come up, and you would have been just fine and just position people, you know, when they come out of the water. Why didn't they choose that? A good question. The same reason that in Afghanistan, they had an oil they had an oil reserve there in Afghanistan that was well capped by the Soviets, well capped. We could have taken that cap off, and that oil they had enough oil to not only fuel the entire country, but the whole war effort right there for about 9¢ a gallon.

But instead, we would get our oil from Saudi Arabia, etcetera, and have to ship it through Pakistan with all the roadblocks. So it was about $900 a gallon or some crazy shit. He was on my thing talking

about as he presented a plan to do it. It says blocked by the Pentagon.

Let's, hear this. What you have for me? Smart dude.

Provided the Israelis a fully funded, donated ability to flood Gaza with water, with seawater, to flood the 300 miles of tunnels blocked by the Pentagon. Our stuff isn't working that well in Ukraine. The navy has been ineffective in Yemen. US has given very bad advice, very mixed advice in Gaza, preventing the Israelis from finishing it or even preventing from ending that war in a clever way.

Yeah. He's very smart. And and and Eric is, he's a problem solver. You can say whatever you want about him, but I I really enjoy he he's he's a very smart guy. And I know people that work with him and for him and

Well, if the shit goes down, you need people like that. You need people that know how to solve problems.

Yeah. Yeah. But also, you know You

can't have some overweight lesbian that says that if you're trapped in the building, you already made a mistake. You're already fucked up. You need me to carry you.

Is that really what she said?

You wanna hear it? Yeah.

I do. Let me hear it.

Jimmy, you could probably find it right if you can't.

Just so you can outrage me and give me more energy.

I certainly have it in here. I know, I can find it if you just give me a moment. It's just it's so ridiculous. You you hear her say it. Like, what are you even saying?

Here it is. I found it.

It's not AI. Right?

No. No. No. No. Here, Jamie.

See, our shit's getting crazy. I've had to call you and ask you. I know as I called you, I was like, is this AI? Hear

headphones on again because you're gonna have to hear it because it's so crazy. It's so ridiculous.

House, your emergency, whether it's a medical call or a fire call that looks like you. It gives that person a little bit more ease knowing that somebody might understand their situation better. Is she strong enough to do this, or you couldn't carry my husband out of a fire? Which my response is is he got himself in the wrong place if I have to carry him out of a fire.

Oh, wow. Oh, that's helpful.

That is such a crazy way to look at things. The correct answer is no, I cannot, but I can do other things.

Right.

Yeah. And we are gonna need people that can carry people out of buildings because that is a part of the job. Yeah. It's not he got himself

Only if you wanna save lives. Yeah. But, again, this is social justice. To save a lot. Justice, ideology representation, ideology over effectiveness, ideology over utility.

1 of the things we saw during the 20 24 election is massive chunks of California turned red that had never been red before. And, I suspect that that trend will continue and be even further and, you know, flip the top.

There's a limit to what you can do. People, you know, they're not stupid Americans. They they they reach a boiling point.

Yeah. I think we're gonna get to a point where they wake up and you're gonna have to have someone come in and clean up the mess.

I think the greatest Someone's

gonna have to be, like, socially liberal, but fiscally conservative and pragmatic and realistic. But they're they're gonna have to, like, be a person like you or I, who, like, supports gay rights, supports women's rights, supports equal rights, like, of course. But also, the thing is don't hire people that aren't qualified for a job because you don't wanna hire white people. That's crazy. Hire everybody that's qualified and then make everybody else more qualified.

Go to the

Make everybody rise to the same level. Yes. That's why sports are great.

Right. Figure out a way to fix all your fucking urban problems. If you have $24,000,000,000 every year just for homelessness, imagine what that could have been done to clean up communities.

Exactly.

Because you haven't done a goddamn thing about homelessness, and all those people should be held accountable.

Well, that's because they again, they're framing the problem wrong. If you talk to those people, if you talk to the people in charge of homelessness Yeah. A lot of I'm not saying a lot of them are look. A lot of them are good people, and a lot of them are smart, and they know a lot more about it than I do. So I I don't like being the guy who's talking about like, I but I'm just saying I like to be fair.

I wanna be fair. But I think when you're framing it just as a housing problem It's a lot of and a new problem, it's a fucking lie.

It's a bunch of people profiting. I mean, Colleon Noir, when he was on the podcast, explained that to me for the first time. He said when he was in San Francisco, he said, what what is going on? Like, do they just need more money? He's like, no, you don't understand.

It's the opposite. It's like there's a business now in keeping homelessness there. Yes. Because there's people that are making quarter quarter billion dollars a year and they're they're just working on the homeless problem, and they're failing. We got 31000 new homeless people this year.

It's just failure.

And you California was always including under, Democratic governors, California was always known as a as a place that was run very, very well with really responsible civic employees for a long time under Reardon and that and stuff. And then it

just Yeah. Well, it's collapsing under the weight of its own bullshit.

Oh, congratulations. So so I had, I had I was with Arnold Schwarzenegger, and and I asked him, what was it like to be governor? And 1 of the things that I got was that how little power he he was not able to get a lot of things done, but I'll give you a classic example. He said and I'm sorry if I'm paraphrasing, but he said something. He said, there was a water issue.

And he said, these farmers over here are not using all that water. So here's ready? Here's what you do. Just take the water they're not using and give it to this this part of the state over here. There's no big deal.

Just pipe it over here. And his senators said, mister governor, I can't do that. He said, why? He goes, because now you're asking me to go and ask my constituents to give up some of their water. They're gonna use that against me in my next election.

Right. So he goes so so Schwarzenegger goes, so then what the fuck are we gonna do? And he goes, here's what you're gonna do. You're gonna make a speech, and you're gonna say exactly what you just said to us. And we're gonna say yes, but then we're not gonna really let it happen.

And he goes, that's how this works. He goes, how you're learning, baby? That's fucking California state politics.

That is where Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy come in. Maybe. Department of government efficiency? Maybe. For sure.

Maybe. I don't know what they're gonna be able to get done.

Let me give you an example. So Pete Hegseth seems like a great guy. I'm a fan. I don't know much about him, but I like that kinda seems like kinda guy I'd like to hang out and have a beer with. Sure.

He's very smart. Princeton, I think. Harvard, like, Bronze Star, row 4 books. Awesome. I'm sure he'll be a very effective secretary of defense.

However, that job, this this the DOD, I think, has, a 0.1 employees and a budget of $750,000,000,000, maybe $850,000,000,000. Now just that is a massive, massive company, essentially, and that requires management on a different level. That skill set is very specific and very, very difficult and very strange. It doesn't mean that because you are a great soldier, you can necessarily do that. And I'm saying I'm not I'm not I'm just using it as an example.

So we have to get down to brass tacks and take politics out of this and get real fucking practical with all this stuff. I think with Elon Musk and with Vivek Ramasam Swamy, the US government is a very complicated organism and massive and does a lot of shit none of us even know about. You know, I always use this as an example. Who the fuck keeps geese out of the airfields? The Department of Agriculture.

Who keeps who who keeps falcons on hand at most airports? Peregrine falcons. You know who does? The Department of Agriculture. You know why?

Because they're territorial birds. They keep all the other birds out of the airfield. Do you know how to do that? Because I don't. Who gets sheep to graze at a higher altitude because of global warming, and they they don't wanna graze when it's really hot.

I don't know, but we have to do that if you want mutton and fucking wool. And there are scientists that have to figure that out. They're not political. There's a thousand things. Who manages all that nuclear waste in the ground and make sure it doesn't get into the Columbia River and the waterways?

Who manages our electric grid? This is all who keeps track, please, I'd like to know, of all these spent uranium rods, sir, that are used in all our diagnostic machines? Because if you detonate 1 of those motherfuckers over the Super Bowl, you have to clear out that city for 20 years. The Department of Energy is the answer.

That's, Buttigieg. He's doing a great job. That's sneaky. No. Transportation.

He's transportation.

It was the guy who stole women's clothes.

Yeah. He's the nuclear secretary.

Yeah. He was responsible for that.

That seems like fucking well put That's not a guy.

That's a they, you piece

of shit.

Sorry, bro. Sorry. Don't misgender.

That's the most important thing. That fucking guy. That thief. Jesus Christ. You understand what I'm saying?

Yes. So so this

is It's beyond complicated. Yeah. Unbelievably complicated.

And so Michael Lewis wrote a book called The Fifth Risk about this. A good book. Short, very worth reading. Very fucking worth reading. I walk around talking about being a libertarian.

As usual, I don't really know what government does. It I was so kinda humbled by the book because I was like, there's a lot of shit I rely on. The people who are needy, people who are very elderly, people who are disabled, who live in places where they can't get food, our food banks feed those people. Meals on wheels is a really big thing. So there's a lot of shit that the government does, and we feed a lot of people that couldn't feed themselves otherwise.

So we have to be careful about not throwing the baby out with the bathwater. And once again, take politics out of it. Let's approach everything like it's a problem and stay agnostic about this shit. And sometimes you might have to be a little left. Sometimes you might have to be a little right.

Respond to the fucking evidence and and and be humble about the fact that every time you step into a problem, you may not know anything, and that's what I try to do.

Brian Callan for governor. Fucking, why didn't you write I

hope you guys wrote that shit down. Where's my camera?

You don't need to write it down, bro. You just said it from the heart.

Fuck yeah, dude. Yeah, bro. Fucking hilarious.

Yeah. Why don't you be a governor?

My buddy my buddy last time I did my podcast, my buddy, AG, goes like this. He goes, from toehold, he goes, hey, dude. Loved your Rogan podcast. Next time you're on the biggest podcast in the world, make sure you talk about the fucking Bible some more.

He goes Hey, man. It's interesting.

Yeah. I'm into that.

I had that Wesley Huff guy on.

You know

who he is? Mhmm. Yeah. He was really interesting. And 1 of the most fascinating things that I can't stop thinking about is how the book of Isaiah from the Dead Sea Scrolls was verbatim the same as the book of Isaiah that they found a thousand years later.

Wow. A thousand years. Wow. And it was exact word for word. Yeah.

Like, that's incredible.

It's not only incredible, but I always think the fact that the Bible endures is interesting.

Right? It's very interesting.

It endures.

It I always go back to, like, what were they trying to do? What was it really all about? Where did it start?

Yeah. Do you have an opinion? Tell me. I think that if you read the Old Testament, which I've done 3 times, the the I would argue that so what what's the theme of a of a any anybody any any author writes a book, the theme is always the audience the author's argument for how 1 should behave in the world. Okay?

It's a good way of looking at it. And I think that the central theme of the Bible, of the Old Testament, certainly, is don't worship false gods. So what's that mean? If you try to worship false gods, if you if you if you put too much emphasis on money, on status, on power On ideology. Whatever it is, on ideology, you you will you will inevitably turn yourself into a circle.

You'll you'll be a snake eating its own tail. For for whatever reason, human beings have a very hard time inventing and creating their own gods, and we always do it. What what what there is what the value of having a transcendent truth of something that you can't measure, it's very interesting that you can't measure it, that you even when so so would why do the Muslims, why do the the Orthodox Jews not have any kind of, like, picture of God? It's because you're putting a measurement around God. You're trying to define God, and that's not for you to do.

And there's something very valuable about not being able to do that because that transcendent truth is not for you to understand necessarily. It is for you to reach for. It is for you to be reverent of. Of. It's for you to understand that something is watching you, that you will never get away with anything.

And and and I'll quote Jordan Peterson. I love it because I've always thought this, and I think you agree with this. You don't get away with anything. You'll pay in full for everything you've done and haven't done. It's a great way of looking at things.

Maybe it's wrong, but it's a good way to at least it's it's keep that in mind.

I think you pay psychologically no matter what.

A % when you're not telling the truth.

Right. And then the people that don't, those are the people that are the most delusional and the most disconnected because they put blinders on as to who they are and what they've done. We see this when people get caught for horrible crimes and they, you know, they can't like Bernie Madoff type people. Like, they've deluded themselves to a point where they've they've they don't look at they're complete sociopaths. Haven't.

Which is a weird path that the mind can go into where you're never wrong and it's always about you.

Well, also, like, I always when people talk about God, I I kinda like replacing it with truth. So just just try to stay close to the truth, man. And it's it's hard. Sometimes the truth is really fucking inconvenient. It's really it's really it it'll it might throw your whole life up in in the air.

You might have to burn off, you know, but but I don't think I think it's inevitable. And and part of, like, if you if you see great stories, you know, what's the definition of a tragedy? It's the the hero or the protagonist doesn't learn from his mistakes and and and holds on. Moby Dick is a tragedy because Ahab will not give up on this fucking white whale that took his leg. And if you read the book, he just gets sucked in.

You'd think it'd be some traumatic thing. In the book, Ahab gets caught by the whale and just he just he just dies this quick. This is soundless. He just gets sucked in. Like, wait, dude.

He's been in the book the whole time. What the fuck happened? That's how it happens, bro. You got sucked down, and the universe doesn't give a fuck. You're not important.

No. But you spent all that time trying to get revengeance on a white whale, and that thing was like he was just trying to run away. No. No. You get sucked in, and you drown.

It's a great way of looking at life. And and I I as I get older, the 1 thing I would have told myself when I was younger, the 1 thing I would have told myself is I would have said, hey. Listen. Listen, fuckface. You better tell the truth all the way all the way across the board, all the way across.

Let me tell you something. Yeah. You win the

lesson. You're so fucking right. You're the lesson. Because you know what I always said to myself? I'm 1 of God's favorites.

These things don't apply

to me. I'm clear. Also, you were charming. You know? Charming is a problem.

Got away with a lot.

Yeah. Charm and you were fun to be around. People liked you. You're fun.

Lot of friends.

Yeah. A lot of friends.

Fine. I found my way through.

And also, we liked that you were ridiculous. We liked that you're living your life completely chaotic.

Reckless? Yeah. It's but

it's also why you're funny. Like, that that's the balancing act.

It is.

As a comic, as a human. Yeah.

I didn't wanna be too I didn't wanna be the people I knew who got real famous actors, they were so buttoned down. They were so fucking afraid of everything. And I was like, hey, bro. I think sometimes you gotta be willing to throw the whole fucking chessboard in the air. You know, it's like my favorite

you wanna be funny. Yeah. Yeah. If you if you become too calculated, man, I just think you outthink yourself. You lose the magic.

You lose the part of the magic of being a comedian is these sparks of ridiculousness that have to pop into your head. Good. So you have to be able to entertain that part of your mind. I used to think when I was young that I I didn't wanna meditate because I didn't wanna become enlightened because it would fuck up my comedy.

It's true.

Well, I thought that way because I realized that there was a completely different mindset between me as a martial arts competitor and me as a comedian, where I didn't need anybody's approval before. Like, I I I liked that they didn't like me. I used to love going to places and fucking up the local hero. I used to enjoy it. Yeah.

I used

to get a kick out of it all because I didn't have anybody in my corner. I didn't really cheering for me. Nobody came to see me fight. So I was like, I'll go to your place and fuck you up. I liked it.

Yeah. I liked I liked Where

am I going to show

There was 1 there was a fight that I had when I was 19, and I fought in Anaheim at the the Nationals. And there's this guy who's the state champion. I think he's from Illinois, and I hit him with a wheel kick. That was probably the hardest I've ever hit anybody in my life. Tell somebody like that.

Well, he went unconscious and he never woke up. They took him to the hospital. They they took him out on a on a stretcher. It scared the shit out of me. Jesus.

Because I I remember thinking that easily could have been me.

Yeah.

That easily could have been me. But what I do remember was all these people were cheering them. Let's go, Johnny. Come on, Johnny. Fuck him up, Johnny.

All these people are trying to, whack. Silence. Face plant and then snoring.

Jesus Christ.

And then I I remember the satisfaction of that, like, shut the fuck.

And it feels like nothing on your foot. It's going hurt.

I was limping Really? For days.

Really? Oh, yeah. You hit him with your heel?

I hit him in the with the with my heel and his cheekbones. Oh, Christ. On his cheekbone. Yeah.

And I

was That'll hurt. Fast. I was fast. Yeah. Still are.

But but back then when I was 19, I was fast. So it happened in a a breeze, a a quick moment. And then I remember thinking afterwards, are he when is he getting up? He's not getting up. He didn't get up.

And then they they carried him away in the stretcher and they took him to the hospital. And I never felt the same way about fighting again after that.

Yeah. Because I could have been you.

Yeah. You

know what I mean?

I also thought about, like, if that was me, would I even be the same person again after that? Because I had a friend who, fought in this tournament. He fought this guy, Jersey Long, who's this Canadian national champion and he got axed kicked in the head Oh. Hard. And he went unconscious and real bad.

And he was never the same guy again. He was timid after that. He never fought well. Yeah. He he was he didn't show up for training a lot.

He was just and he just, like, seemed depressed.

That's why I think fighters who can who have longevity are very special because 1 of the things you know if you, like, just box or Taekwondo especially, people don't realize that people get would get knocked out all the time in in our studio. Yeah. But but also boxing, like, when you get hit hard and you have trouble chewing for, like, 2 weeks or you get hit like like, when I was sparring a lot, I I would get hit, man, and I would get fucking gun shy. And my my trainer, Wayne McCullough, would go, you're sparring today. And I it was everything I could do not to turn my car around.

It would almost turn me into a liar. I was like, I I have to I'm in the hospital. My car just got hit by a truck, anything. But I would you'd get there, and you'd have your fucking your I would wear a bar because I'm a bitch and a mouthpiece. And I I was still always nervous.

And I got up from fighting good guys. Fighting guys like me, fucking weekend warriors.

It doesn't matter.

It didn't matter.

The person trying to hit you in the face is scary.

You know what I think you know what I think meditation does? I think I think the point is, and I don't meditate a lot, is to get out of your own to get out of the way. Like, to to get out of the way. Like, I live through a lot of life. Yeah.

You you should

disappear. Yeah.

I heard a sports psychologist say that he teaches baseball players. He would teach them he would do this mantra, which was 1, 2, get out of the way. So when you're trying to hit a ball because it's really precise and you can't be overthinking, you've gotta just be totally reactive. Right? Your your your eye and your hands have to be married.

And motherfuckers are throwing a hundred mile an hour balls and shit

like that.

And, you ever you ever done that? You ever stood in at a plate and had guys throw a hundred miles an hour? No. I have. I have.

Insane. Fucking terrifying.

The idea of hitting that thing.

Dude, it's terrifying. Yeah. And and but I I wanted to try it. I wanna see what it was like. And when you when your job depends on it, when when everything rides on it, you better get out of your own way.

And guys get the yips. That's why guys will go on hitting streaks, and then they'll go on long dry spells because they get in their own way. But I think part of, like, all of that meditation, Jamie, pull up the, fucking Indian army. Did you see this?

They were hiking No.

In the Himalayas, and they came across a bodhisattva or 1 you know, a a monk who was meditating in the snow, and it was 40 below.

This is recently?

Yes, sir. You might wanna bring this up so it can just follow.

You know what a custom model I used to tell Mike Tyson? Mhmm. You don't exist. Just the task. The task exists.

I love that.

Yeah. You don't exist.

He's become a bit of a monk.

Yeah. So they found this guy?

That's weird.

His AI. Yeah. That's a that's in a green screen.

This

is 2 or 3 years old.

Shut up. It's fake.

Yeah. That's bad.

Look at that dude. I bet that dude's boring as fuck to talk to. Guy meditating. Sitting there with a dog.

Meditating covered in snow. Home. And it's fucking unbelievable. That might be true, Bubba. Home.

That might be true.

He looks legit.

Yeah. They find these guys out there.

Yeah. He looks legit. They find these guys. Yeah. I like to see

him But there's a guy

called in

snow, and he's not moving. Time. And the Indian Army's

talking about having fun. Yeah. What's the temperature like? Dogs having fun too, though.

We don't But that's we don't think that dog's amazing. That's in Utah.

We're like, that dog's amazing. You think that's in Utah? I don't know. Come on, man. That's real.

That's some guy on a lot of drugs.

That guy is no, man. He's, he did the DMT breathing.

Well, you know those dudes in in you ever read Shantaram? You know those guys who take a vow and never sit down? They stand up.

Oh, gosh.

You ever seen their legs in India?

No. Oh, bro.

Their knees are destroyed. They're the standing they're the standing yogis.

How bad are their knees?

No. No. No. They they get varicose veins. Their bodies their their feet start to melt.

Like, they they What? They smoke copious amounts of weed. I mean, they're always high constantly.

Yeah.

But they they take a vow never to ever ever sit. They are standing their whole life, so they sleep standing up in slings.

Oh, that's ridiculous.

Yeah. It doesn't.

What do their legs look like?

You should then you can you can look that up just to fuck you up some more.

Give me standing yogi is just showing me all

sorts of questions for yoga. Fucking So

what is it? How would you describe it as? Standing yogis?

Yeah. They're like the standing the famous standing yogis or something they're called.

Where from, Maybe? Do you know where? India. India.

India. I think in Calcutta. Yeah.

Yeah. It's weird. Sometimes the ferry's only a nickel. You know? You don't have to stand all day, you fucking idiot.

Yeah. Have a seat, smoke a cigar.

Exactly, please.

Relax a little bit.

At the end of the day, they're trying to get laid.

I don't know what they're trying to do. They're they're definitely not trying to get laid. Right? Because they don't do it.

I think a lot of people are dealing with trauma. I think a lot of times, you you're gonna either kill yourself or do something crazy. Right?

Sometimes. Find something.

Yeah. You know? I don't think you become a monk or a shaman. Joseph Campbell did a whole thing. Every shaman he studied, he he was an expert at comparing Western and Eastern traditions.

And he said every shaman ever had gone through some kind of a a mental breakdown, usually in their teens. And they came out of it because they had a society, a village that helped them through it, that that sort of, like, understood that it was it was a schizophrenic break, but they were going through something, and there was something on the other side of that. So they they wouldn't medicate them.

Standing Babas. This is what

is this standing what? Babas. Standing Babas. Yeah. What'll look

at

their guy's foot. Go back to that other image that you have before. It's not

a good it's

not What did you have before? Yeah. Look at that guy's foot. Bound. Oh, that's different.

Oh, it's

Chinese ladies.

Oh, my gosh. That is the most disgusting thing. The Chinese foot binding, like, Jesus Christ.

I shot it with my own eyes in in, 1984 in China. I went

to So this is how

this guy stands.

Yeah. Just propped up all the time. Do

all day.

That dude looks like he has 1 leg. Donations.

No. They they Left his arm in the air too.

Now that

Oh, Jesus. Look at his arm.

Yeah. Forever. He keeps his arm off.

Since 1973.

Oh my god. He hasn't brought it down since 1973. Yeah. He sees as a devotion to Lord Shiva. Maybe Lord Shiva like, hey.

Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Wipe your ass.

Yeah. I gave you 2 arms.

Wipe your ass. You can't use the same arm to feed yourself and wipe your ass. You're gonna have to wipe your ass. That's crazy.

Yeah, dude.

Look at his arm. I bet I could arm wrestle the shit out of that dude. I bet everything I have. I bet

That's not the point, man.

Everything I have, dude. Let's go.

You know who's into arm wrestling now? Brian Shaw. Oh, god. Yeah.

That's a problem.

He's been training hard for it.

That's a real problem. Yeah. Look at that dude. Just high out of his mind.

I tell you, Brian, he's

fucking white power. I told What does he do? What is

that? That's it. No. Forever. So that's black power.

Black power.

That's black power.

Which 1? White power is the hand? It's all about the hand line.

If you extend your fingers, it's So white power is

just basically a bitch slap.

Pro black, pro white.

Black power will fuck you up. Correct. White power is just Yeah.

Yeah. No. That's not. And Hitler did this. Yeah.

Everybody else did this. He did this.

It's funny, like, when CNN was attacking me, 1 of the photos that they would use all the time was me at the UFC waving to the crowd. Like this, ladies and gentlemen, welcome

to guys.

They would use me standing like this. This 1 is

like they call play lively, Justin Baldoni thing.

Yeah.

When you see what the New York Times did to Baldoni where they took every 1 of those things out of context and Baldoni was like, really? How about I see you for $250,000,000?

Yeah.

And and he's got fucking 90 pages of receipts. It's gonna be very interesting.

Yeah. Very interesting. It's it's interesting how the mainstream media just continues to go down this road of discrediting themselves.

Yeah. I I don't understand it.

It's well, it's the rise of independent journalism because there are the Michael Shellenberger's, the Matt Taibis.

There there

are the

Barry Weiss.

Barry Weiss. These people in the world, Glenn Greenwald. There's these people that you could trust that are gonna tell you the fucking truth no matter what. Yeah.

That's why I like about the marketplace. The marketplace will find people that you you can rely on

Yes.

To actually

As long as there's freedom of speech. As long as you don't have censorship.

That's Elon Musk.

Yeah. That's Elon Musk.

I feel like YouTube and and now Facebook, they're all coming around.

Well, that was 1 of the things that Zuckerberg came on yesterday to talk about. They've changed their content policy. They no longer have fact checkers, and now they're gonna rely on community notes.

What is that? I don't understand that.

They used to have fact checkers. Yeah. Like, someone would say something and someone say that's not true. The vaccine's nothing but amazing. And policy.

They'll take off posts.

So what are community notes?

Community notes is what x uses. So, like, say if you post something, it's not true, community notes underneath it would you could write community notes. Oh, okay. So the community notes would be everybody would post into it, this is not true. Mhmm.

And it would come to a consensus. The the facts state that this and that, blah blah blah blah blah. It's amazing. It's the best way to do it. Yeah.

Because eventually the truth comes out. Yeah. The truth comes out. Brian Cowan, I love you to death.

Love you too, bud.

You're the fucking man. 2 shows. Happy that you're filming at the club. It's gonna be fucking awesome. Thank you.

Are you filming tomorrow night?

Tomorrow night. Tonight, I'm doing 2 shows just to warm up. Theo Vonn stopping by, which I'm excited about.

Tomorrow night, 7 and 10?

7 and 10 tomorrow night. Beautiful. Sold out already. All shows.

Of course.

Which is exciting. Of course. Yeah.

So exciting. I'm pumped. I'm pumped for people to see your set too. Thank you. It's gonna be fun.

I'm proud of it.

I love

you, man.

I love you. Thanks very much for doing this. Bye, everybody.