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Absolutely. All the way. Way. All the way away. No way.

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Bo, come on. Yes, we part. No, we are fine. We weren't. That wasn't.

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Yeah. That wasn't real. Yeah. Let's fill the audience in. What do you think the issue is going viral for?

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Well, it's just going viral. Huh. Semi viral. A little lightweight viral. It's a lightweight viral there.

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But it is a. Yeah.

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For his performance the other day. Oh. Which was a great performance. And the pictures. Do you think he helped?

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Huh? Do you think he helped? No. Oh, no.

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Take that. Well, now, there you have it. Him and Amani killed the interviews last week. That's true. The music one ones especially.

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I thought they were dope. Yeah. Focused. Very focused. Yeah, they were really locked in.

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Locked in. They were locked in. The picture on X that has all the millions of views. Yeah. Do you know that I didn't post that picture?

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Oh, you should have. No. Because then it would look like I'm trying to make my man go viral, and I'm not. I'm just trying to post the best pics from are pot. Oh, that's true.

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So. So what? So the one that went viral, I didn't post. I just want Parks to know that. Oh.

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Do you think that it could have been, like, an alley oop type of situation where you, like. You. Y' all give me so much credit. You serve him up and then they go looking for the rest of it. Maybe.

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Yeah. So who posted it? Maybe the Internet. The Internet? How the.

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They got the. How they. How they got the screen? Oh, it's a still. Oh, okay.

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Look. It look kind of the cameras upgrade like that. It looks too strong. Like elite. Like, po job.

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Ish. Do you know what they talking about? I think I do. I'm not exactly sure. I think I do.

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There's a picture of me laughing with Sasha. Correct. Yes. With, like, captions. Like, when you're.

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Yeah. Trying to get the box and you think that everything is funny that she's saying, like, that kind of thing. I ain't see the body. That. That's my son.

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Watch your mouth. He was being professional. He was. That's right. Engaged.

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Known Sasha for 15 years. Yeah. It's facts. I wasn't talking to you. And she's funny, apparently.

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I think she did a great job, actually. She did. She did. She was amazing. Look at Parks.

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I was laughing at Mark. Audience. I haven't. I felt the room out. I don't know what everyone's temperature is, so don't think I don't know.

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Is everyone all right? I feel good. I ain't got no gun with me, man. You know what? Ice ain't got a gun.

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I'm putting my guns up this episode. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Everybody put mine been up. So everybody's guns. No, I'm putting my guns.

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My guns is loaded, nigga. My guns is always loaded. You always just gotta be a contrarian. Yeah, my guns is loaded. And I got the ak.

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What ish. Oh, I thought you sucked your teeth at me. Yeah, my shit loaded. I'm ready for y' all niggas today. Joe Mash.

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Joe Mash. A question when you have the opportunity, like, you have a picture or image, and you know it will do well. You know it will go viral, but it could make one of us look not bad, like, humiliated. I know you wouldn't do that. But bad, like the subject of jokes, how you know you wouldn't do that?

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Wait, hold on. Are you crazy? This nigga posted. So something happened on him, remember? He.

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I forgot what episode? That's my. Okay, I forgot what episode it was, but some shit happened here. That nigga went straight to Instagram that night and posted it. Remember that?

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N. I'm popping that. I remember. You know, that's all right. You know, you remember everything from when we was little. Shut up.

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Don't talk to my man like that. You probably best to answer this. What do you think the line is for up here in terms of, like, wait, how you ask me a question and then skip me? I don't even answer it. Then my answer.

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Everybody jumped on me before I could even answer it. So I want to hear what they. While they were jumping on me, but go ahead, say the question. What is your. What's the line?

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What's the line for you of, like, when something is worth putting out because it's juicy, but also might. Y' all know the line. Don't hit. Don't hit each other.

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Don't hit each other. And we try to respect women and children and you lying with it. Don't hit each other because you want to see on that episode. And respecting women and children as well.

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Those are my lines. You asked me my lines. Those Are my. What's the real. Theoretically, he drew them with erasable.

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You talking about. I don't. I'm not with nobody hitting nobody. But if it happened, you might not encourage somebody hitting. If it happened, it wouldn't happen.

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Play it out. If it happened up here while the cameras are rolling and the table don't get broken. Come on, Come on. Don't. Don't make me choose.

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Choose what? Yeah, what's the choice? The content over a friend. Come on. Come on.

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That's why I asked. If you get in the fight, we are gonna milk that. I also am gonna try to make sure that nobody gets in a fight up here. And does the outcome of the fight change whether you. So, like, if one of us get washed, are you more or less likely to put it up?

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I think it depends on who gets washed. You get washed. Funnily, is it a hilarious. Watch. Left, right.

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Depending on who somebody throw the wild haymaker, misses and he gets knocked out of something that's going up. I mean, fight going up, man. Okay. I just want to know. Just like, to know the rules.

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Well, hopefully. Hopefully we get to the root of whatever the issue is before people get to fighting. And if we don't do that, then I failed as a leader. I think. All right.

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We are imagining, like, if a fight breaks out and we skip all of the steps leading up to. Come on, man. What songs you got some latte for us. A little bit of murder. Yeah.

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No, I like when Mark get his questions. He's got, like. I like more questions. I got you. No, I like the questions, too.

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Your answers, bro. Yeah, put some Destiny child on or something.

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Oh, man. Oh, it's gonna be an interesting day. I think so, too. Yeah, I feel it. I feel it.

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My only question for you back to me. Okay, well, because you never answered my first question, so I did. My last question is, do you remember the joke? No. I don't know.

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What. I think Joe probably watched the tapes. I don't remember Joe. Oh, whatever the joke was, I'm sure everybody in here was laughing, but. Of course.

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But was it the funniest joke that you've heard said up here? I doubt it. Because you never put your head on my shoulder. I would never put my head on. But I've been funny.

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I've been funny. But he doesn't sit next to you. You haven't been this close to me exactly. Okay. Me and Ice have both laughed and leaned in each other's directions, but Ice don't sit that close to me neither.

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It Won't and ice not attractive. Jesus, that was mean. You mean you don't find him? You're not attracted to him?

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He said, said Ice ugly. I would. I would hope. I knew what you mean for no reason you talking about. Point was made.

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God damn. Oh, God. So the guns are tucked away? Yes, they are. Yes, they are.

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Yes, they are. I left mine home. Got a gun, bro. All Glocks down, like had to be. Now, unless one of y' all start getting crazy, then I do have to go borrow a weapon.

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A metaphorical weapon because it's hate listeners too. You got you clipped up right to the precinct. Look at threats, assault. I told you, Flip. What's up, man?

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You good? Yeah, I'm good. What's up, man? What's popping? Nothing.

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I'm just making sure you're good. You my guy. Why you trembling? Now, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm fine.

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How you doing? You all right? That was very romantic. Yeah. Hey, you all right?

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Hit him with the Ray Charles.

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You do that again, do it again. What's gonna happen? Something gonna move me and you. Ben's supposed to be in the first fight. Don't fight me so bad.

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Come on, don't do that. Don't do that no more. Can't touch your man. No, no, you can't touch your man. Not like that.

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Got you. It's a little too romantic.

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Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike check. Mike check, Mic check. Mic check. 1, 2, 1 2, 1 2, 1, 2, 1 2.

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Neutral button.

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Yes, sir.

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Whole New York City, New Jersey, the. Hey, listeners, wherever you might be listening from out there.

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All wait for the ladies. All wait for the ladies.

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She say I move gloves Cause my is unplugged everywhere I go Results Pounds of love black on bless them like the heavens up above got beef so I'm taking it slow, making it grow. Right now my main concern is making it blow.

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Harlem underworld, Harlem underworld Black rod from 100, 200, boo.

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Like they assassins mic check 1, 2, 1, 2. Mic check. So glad you could be here with us today.

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On the payroll I don't know what else say stone resting black sell by baby hustling backwards money caught one in his kango DOA as this man made his run for the door Caught him indicator shoes his girl probably bought him Too bad black ain't get the chance to extort him. Cause like that don't deserve to live worth and we ain't got the love to get for these drop shots who want to be I want you to ask yourself One question. If you have 24 hours to live, what would you do? That's some deep shit right there. A lot of pressure.

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How would you handle that? Mason?

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Yo, check this out. Right? Come holler motivates.

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And if you ever out trying to find me, I think I should warn you, I get hard when I want to put a fool in the yolk. Two to a stroke, taking jewels in his goat. More than likely you ain't got the like and it might be the last time I take it nicely. Let's go. Murder, we behind the car clean, there's no ain't nobody here leaving.

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You kill my man, I kill your. Now we heaving and I'm from a cold world where it's bleeding 20 degrees and Fahrenheit? Get sniped for no reason. Oh, man, down to my 90s. Some of y' all wasn't there.

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All right, man, we can get this bad boy started.

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If you get fouled, we get fouled. You get wow. Oh, nah, got a silver new whip. Cause fed watch when I do keep popping up new, new think the whole Harlem world. Oh, man.

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All right, man, we got a great show lined up for y' all today. Indeed. We got a great show lined up for y' all today, man. Y' all could have been anywhere in the world, but y' all are here with us. We appreciate that.

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Let me get these drops out the way real quick. The streets, some days you wake up and they just feed you. Pause, pause, Flip, flip, flip, flip, flip. Also, I saw a post that was concerning to me, so I want to send a shout out. I want to send love, thoughts, and prayers to Melissa Ford, wherever she is, whatever she's going through.

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I saw some on the gram yesterday. I haven't spoken to her, but much love to our sister in Christ, wherever you are, whatever you're going through, feel better. Yeah, get well, sir. Good. Well, what episode is this?

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861. Welcome to episode 861 of the JOE Button Podcast, brought to you by a few by power, by prize Pitch Price Pitch. Gang, I'm your humble, grateful, gracious, happy to be here host Joe Button here with some really amazing and people to my right. Queens get the money. Queens.

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Flip is here next to him. Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building next to him. King Wawa Ish is in the building next to him. Big Freeze Parks is here. Corey is here.

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Poe is here. Erickson is here. I'm not certain if Ian and Keeb are still here. Savon and Tanner here by remote. And last but Certainly not least each and every one of you guys are here now.

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What's poppin? What's poppin? What's poppin? How's everybody doing? Doing good.

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Good, good, man. Everybody in the house got better, so I'm happy. Everybody. My house got sick. Same.

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Same. I'm over here fighting, man. I'm over here fighting. Thank you for sending me that stuff. My son is going through this thing.

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I don't know if it's sleep regression, but, like, he wakes up at 5am every day now and, like, kicks the bangs and kicks on the door like, Like a, Like a, like the SWAT team. And I, I, I need to do something about it. In between that and being sick, man, it's. Hell, yeah. I could figure.

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I could imagine. Did you call the police? I considered it a little thug. I didn't believe in jail this n started knocking on the door. I believe we can't get him right?

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Yo. Oh, man. Oh, my God. I wanted to go to your house this weekend. I wanted to come by and watch the fight.

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Oh, yeah. For our little kickback. Yeah. We had a nice little fun party. We were planning on making it.

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We had childcare and everything. We went to Montclair Jazz Festival. Okay. And it was dope. I saw pictures.

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Yeah. What'd you say? Who was there? We got there. We went for the.

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The street party. Like a DJ out there. There were acts, but we got there, like, late, like 8 o' clock and got you, so. But it was great. I didn't know it was that big of a deal in Jersey.

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Jersey be having some stuff. It was cool. Montclear specifically. Yeah. I definitely live in the wrong place.

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And then we. And we took. We decided to take some of those when y' all be fighting and stuff. I sneak in the fridge and take out the. The beverages and put them in my car.

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And I took the, The. The THC beverage. Yeah, we took them. Okay. At the festival.

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Yeah. We ain't make it to your house, though. We. We barely made it home. I was like, there you go.

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And I know how the Lamont Hills party.

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We had a good time. They partying. It was up. But like, yeah. He's like, yeah.

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I took advantage of the night. Yeah. Hey, all right. That's Dr. Freaky Talk.

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Dr. Freaky Talk. I took advantage of the night. That did sound wild, but yeah. But yeah. Oh, man.

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Yeah. How about the rest of y' all good weekends? Yeah, it was good weekend. I went to go see the Long Walk. Oh, it was good.

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I liked it. I liked It. It wasn't. I didn't like the end, the last three minutes, but it didn't ruin the entire movie for me. It was something different.

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I didn't see how it was gonna go. I like it. And then after that, we shot over to Joe's for the. For the kickback. Okay.

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What didn't you like about the ending? It just left questions for me, that's all. I don't want to spoil. I. I still had questions after you saw it, too, right? Yeah.

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That's all I like. I. I like a movie that close up. There's no part two to this. So there were still questions. I wanted to know what happened afterwards.

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Words. You wanted the white boy to win. No, I didn't care about that. I just. Yeah, I care about that, but.

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All right, fake little gun, then. Fake little gun. Little deuce. Deuce. I ain't shooting everybody just for your.

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For your understanding. We said we weren't going to shoot at each other today, but I'm thinking that's going to last about five more minutes. Come on, man. I'm not shooting at y'. All.

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Leg shots. Shots in the leg. Nope. But, yeah, we had a good time watching the fight.

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Them Netflix fights started late. Yeah, it was late. It was like the Netflix fights. They ain't like your dad's pay per view.

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They start around the same time. But what. It looked like Netflix threw another fight in there. Yeah, that's what it looked like. I turned up midnight.

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Yeah, there was still another fight dog that. Fights dog started close to 1245. Jesus. That's the main event we talking about. Yeah.

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I'm saying main events did not start at 12 because they added another. And. And then you depend on what the other Tyson fights used to start. Was it like. Like 11, 12, 1245.

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Just seemed late. It's late. It is late. It's late. Okay, okay.

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It was too many on the undercard or. Or the undercard might go the distance, you know what I'm saying? Like, typically start getting knocked out on the undercard. Yeah. So it'll be shorter fight fights.

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A couple of them cards went. They was good fighters. Like, I needed to take a nap. So for the kickback, I done invited people over there at nine o'. Clock, nine thirty.

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Yeah. Even people got there at ten. This fight ain't coming on till one in the morning. That was different, bro. I ain't like that.

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Yeah. Yeah. I don't think people. I had a little bit of kickback. People didn't probably show up to, like, 10.

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But then I did realize that I looked down and it was 5am all of a sudden, I was like, y' all got. I'm going to bed. Like, I don't know what the we doing still. That's how your kickbacks. They don't stop.

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Are still there. Yeah. 5:00am we're all just chilling. Like Parks and Rim are party heads. Yeah, clearly.

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Although REM Was having a readathon, so she wasn't down with us in the party. Readathon. A readathon. Her and her friends got together in red for 24 straight hours. It was interesting as we're having a fight party in the basement, drinking all types of Macallan, wilding out.

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That's interesting. No, I was about to say that might be some. You. I want to sound like that I want to kill literacy up here. No, I was about to tell for.

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I'm about to join a book club. That'd be dope. It's dope. Or actually start a book club. It's dope.

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That's dope. Y' all could even read the books I gave y'. All. Oh, that's dope. That might be.

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It's a nice little start right there. Just saying Mark is a dick. Yes, for sure. Unparalleled. There you go.

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I'm just listening. How was your weekend, Flip? I'm just listening to y'. All. My weekend was cool, but you could watch the fight.

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I'm saying spending time with my daughter, driving. Driving her up and down this damn sweet 16 and like that. And then. Oh, you about to spend some spanky, huh? No, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not.

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No. I drove her to a dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My daughter. Yeah.

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No, no, no. And, you know, I just spent some time with the children and just. Yeah, my weekend was. I watched a fight while driving, which is very dangerous. Yeah.

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But pulled over, watched it, and then got home and finished the rest. It was dope. It was a great fight, man. It was really a good fight. Did it in the way.

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I don't know a lot about boxing, so I did it. I mean, people seem to be saying Crawford was going to win anyway, but was it more. Looking at the scorecard, it looked like it was somewhat competitive. Like, how did it. It was competitive.

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I like the scorecard. But Bud won outright for sure. But it wasn't like he won convincingly. It wasn't. Yeah, he won convincingly, but it wasn't.

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Not interesting. It was a good fight. Canelo had moments where it was like, oh, try. Yeah, he tried. He tried.

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I had it. Eight, four. No, I had a seven, five. I had a close up. Oh, wow.

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We had a close up. Yeah. I think some of the rounds that they was giving Bud wasn't really. I think what happened in that fight, nobody got hurt. True.

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Like, nobody ever got hurt, but. Oh, I disagree with that. It was most probably one of the most uneventful fights. Even though they was throwing a bunch of punches. Oh, no, it wasn't.

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Yeah, it wasn't. Did you see the fight? It wasn't a snooze fest the whole entire fight and the fight before, it was uneventful. I think they. I think that Canelo couldn't get to him.

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He couldn't hit him. He couldn't. He was frustrated. And I think it just wasn't an exciting fight for me. I think most people.

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What most people loved about the fight is that they fought. Yeah, yeah. They. They didn't avoid each other. They.

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They took a couple of rounds to do the size up, get a download of what each other's doing. I think it was round four when I looked at Corey, who had Canelo and said, okay. Crawford seems to be gaining confidence. Yeah. And by the time it got to 6 and 7, Corey was in denial.

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He was in denial in the living room. And as it continued. Word. Word is that they told Bud in his corner after the ninth round that, hey, we think you're up, but you need. You need to fight in these rounds.

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And he came out and did just that. He did a great job. He looked like he wasn't affected by Canelo's punches. Once. He felt with that power hit for.

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It looked like he was faster. It looked like he had better boxing iq. Canelo looks slow. Super slow. He looks not even remote like.

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He looks slow as shit, bro. That one time. When do it matter if you get $95 million? No, no. Rumored to have got 50, $150 million.

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I'll take that off. I would have been a snail in that bitch. Yeah. I don't give a fuck. No, I'm just saying.

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But as far as the fight goes, like, I don't think it was a compelling fight because at no point in the fight did you think Canelo could win after you saw how slow he was. Like. But I was seeing that coming a mile away. Like, see, it was compelling to me because I was sitting there waiting for the knockdown. Now, like, towards the end, we were still with 12 round.

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We was all like, the. Bud was 15. 15 seconds more. He's touching the Ground. Oh, wow.

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That's what we was all saying. It was one. It was one. Well, no, that's what you and I were saying. It was one left hook.

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That. And when he ate that left hook. Yeah. I was like, yo, he can't knock him out because that was the punch that was gonna knock him out. When he spun his head back and he stood there, he ain't bobble his leg.

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He just won his own. He looked back. You just hit me with you calling 8 a punch. I'm not ready to call. He was surprised.

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Hey, what the was that? Times surprised. It wasn't just that one. That's gone viral. He looked at him a couple of times.

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Oh, bro, he did. It looked like he looked in the crowd for his parents. After some of them punches. Nah, after some of the punches, he was looking for his wife. Medical aid.

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What is he Mr. Beast? Yeah. Where is Mr. Beast?

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Only one of those boxers looked like they could have hit the club. They could have went straight to Waffle House afterward, and nobody would have batted an eye at all. Canelo. Canelo looked like, I just got paid $150 million to me. But his face.

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His face did look. His face started getting red and up. One more round. One more round in that fight, and I believe that he would hit that canvas. I mean, in fairness, Bud got his eyes cracked open when he got that accidental headbutt.

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Yeah, yeah. But black heel, different. By the end of the fight, whatever had happened, it wasn't so visible to me. One of the things I liked about the fight, and again, I didn't watch it, but let's just say the post fight was. I watched the press conferences, and they seem to both be like, they show so much respect for each other.

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Oh, for sure. And it was a great interaction. And at the end of the press conference, when Bud Crawford was being asked, I said, bud Crawford? What's his name? Terrence Crawford.

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His nickname is Pug. Oh, gotcha. Okay. I'm not a boxing person, so y' all got me. No, I'm talking online.

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I don't know boxing. He. Mark. Not knowing the sports audience never stops him from talking about the sports. I ask questions.

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That's the thing. I'm not talking about. I'm asking so y' all can teach me. I try not to talk about things I don't know about. He said that he was being compared to Floyd Mayweather, and he said he is the best of his generation.

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I'm the best of my generation. Is that fair? Is that. Is that. Is that Accurate, I would say.

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Yes. True. It is. Okay. I don't know.

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But what Crawford ranks among his generation's boxers? Well, that fight, kind of. That did it. Yeah. Okay.

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Like you said, who else is left for him? I think the Errol Spence fight did it for me. The Canelo fight, just isolated. Yeah. It's just his money time.

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His money time for him. I think the Spence fight was the fight that solidified Bud to me or any other doubters that. You know what I'm saying? Like, he beat the. Out of Arrow Spence, and those was the two.

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A lot of people said Spence wasn't Spence. No, I think he made him look like he wasn't Spence. Well, that's what the other half of the people said, but they questioned Spence. Coming out of that. Coming out of that, there was a lot of questions.

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Questions with. With him. Canelo is Canelo. Whether he's old or not. He's younger than girlfriend.

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Didn't look like it, but he is. In his last few fights, Canelo looked like. Yeah, he has. He has looked like. But the last couple was.

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He was fighting guys that were a lot taller than him, longer reach, all that type of. He looked like he did. Is this just a cash grab or is it. I don't. Or is it.

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I don't know. I'm. I'm watched. No, I think it's a cash grab.

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I don't think it's a cash grab. That's a fight. Okay. Yeah. He went in there to fight.

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He wanted to win this fight. Yeah. He just couldn't. Got you. Like when he fought Floyd, he was outclassed.

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Yeah, yeah. Got you. They snatched the belts from Canelo. Little man, that was dancing. All that dancing he was doing with the belts behind Canelo.

00:28:32

Run it. Give me that, boy. Give me those belts. And then Bud Crawford gracious enough to give the personalized belts back to Canelo. That was fire.

00:28:42

I'll wait to get mine. Like, I thought a lot was fire. I thought Canelo won the ring outfit. I like the outfit a lot better than that off white shit that. That Bud had going on, but I get it.

00:28:59

I love Bud's entrance. The tool threw me off a little bit. The band tool. That was an interesting choice. Very much.

00:29:07

I was trying to figure out what the connection was. I think that they said that he came out to that music to make fun of the UFC fighter that's been going at him. There's a UFC fighter that's been going at him. That's his. Cite your sources.

00:29:20

People online. There's a UFC fighter that's been arguing with Bud Crawford or trying to. And they said that Bud came out to his music. He responded online and said, yo, he came out to my song. Okay, okay, okay.

00:29:34

Also, when they asked Bud about what you're saying, Bud's response was, I've never seen that guy fight before, so I don't know what his music is. Bud's explanation is I'm paying homage to my Mexican fans. And this is inspired from Desperado. That part I got Mexican. I got the heavy metal band Tool before the band.

00:29:59

It was. Was a band like a white rock band that played first. Yeah. Scene music. Bud is saying he don't know Homeboy's intro so I don't want us to put that.

00:30:11

And called him a clout chaser. I saw that part as well. Yeah, but him holding the guitar case, that was fire. All of that. All of that.

00:30:19

All of that was fire. All of that was fire to me. And good to have. Good to have a big boxing match that your Saturday night is now. I like sports being back.

00:30:29

Me too. Yeah, it bought them out. It bought everybody out. Oh, there you. Yeah, it bought them out.

00:30:37

Yeah. No it was a lot of people there. Oh for sure. For sure. Made for a fun Saturday night, I think.

00:30:42

74, 000, something like that. That's amazing. Yeah. It was a stadium. Football stadium.

00:30:46

Yeah. But the stars was out. You know what I'm saying? Like magic. Like the.

00:30:49

The A1 stars was in the building. For sure. I like that too. It reminds me of the 90s. Like I used to watch boxing in the 90s.

00:30:55

Like when Mike Tyson all and up until like the Roy Jones era. I used to watch and I think the world is better when there's. When there's good marquee boxing. Not just exhibition fights. Not just like people not.

00:31:04

Not just like the Tyson Mayweather stuff that's going to happen that we'll watch. But like real competitive fights it seems like it's just. It's just fun to watch. Agree. Yeah.

00:31:10

I got to shout out the second fight of the night. That was a great fight. That was a great fight. In Beeley vs. Homeboy, the fight that they called a draw, bro, they was rocking and I was only had. That was a draw.

00:31:22

Draw. Like that was a draw. That was a real draw. It wasn't no fun. They've been each other.

00:31:26

That was a draw. They got busy. They got busy. They was fighting fight. That black dude didn't.

00:31:30

Didn't he. He was moving forward the whole Fight. And he was getting hit with some and he just kept coming, moving forward. They was. Bro.

00:31:36

That was a good fight. The fight after that was an absolute snooze fest. That's what made me appreciate the Bud Canelo fight even more. Because again, that fight before that. Damn.

00:31:45

They put us to sleep. Vargas's son. Yeah. Yeah. And we had good fight.

00:31:51

Party food. Yeah. How was the food? Let's get to the. Real food was great.

00:31:56

Collard greens, rice and beans, turkey wings. Turkey wings. Stole the night Keto made potato salad and chicken wings. But it was. It was good.

00:32:07

I ain't never had a turkey wing that tasted like oxtails. I'm keeping it a buck. I don't know how else to describe. I told you, I don't know. Okay, my bad.

00:32:16

Got it. My bad. Sorry, Police. Sorry. But.

00:32:19

Yeah, I. I've never had. That was a. A one. That's one. What?

00:32:27

That's one. See, I just apologize. Are you good? I got him. You said like shots.

00:32:30

He said leg shots were cool. Yeah, I ain't shooting. Me neither. Congrats to Bud Crawford, man. Yeah, for sure.

00:32:38

What a win. Way to move up two weight classes. That's impressive. Do what you got to do first Five division unified. I don't know what he did.

00:32:46

He got too many. He got a bunch of. Yeah, yeah. He got too many titles now for me to know what he did. He had the tops.

00:32:51

They put. I think Manny is the. The most. Manny had eight. Somebody has six.

00:32:56

Then Bud Floyd. All of them have five. So he. He's at the pinnacle now with. With the who's who and go Netflix.

00:33:04

40. 40 million plus viewers. Yeah. I had no issues on the technical in them on. Yeah, they fixed all that shit.

00:33:10

Yeah. Yeah, they fixed all that since that Beyonce's shit. That was Beyonce that shut the service down on Netflix. I don't remember. All right, what else is important?

00:33:20

What else is important? Unimportant. What else needs our full attention? Oh, straight into boxing. Kinda ask.

00:33:28

Sold y' all that the content streets have been hot. So this is fresh off the press. Yesterday morning, Adrian Broner goes to do Cam and Mace's show and gets escorted off set because he was basically sexually harassing their co host, Treasure. Right, Treasure. Yeah.

00:33:50

Like he was making her feel uncomfortable. He was asked to stop multiple times. I'm gonna play some of it. Thank you. Appreciate that.

00:33:58

Hey. What you wasted?

00:34:04

I love you.

00:34:07

I'm sorry. I'm. My bad, y'. All. My bad.

00:34:10

Arabia. Is that a real background? Hey, Stack, can you stop sm. Can you stop smiling? Oh, this now.

00:34:17

Yo, bro, some G. Yo, yo, bro, some G. We gotta. Oh. Oh, I told you that. My bad, my bad. I like.

00:34:26

It's all like, okay, yes. We can move on to football. Just that. Oh, my God. Just that.

00:34:32

Let's do the football. I guess that answered the question about Floyd. When I see. When I see you taking off sometimes mesmerized by stuff. Oh, see this.

00:34:45

My bad, bro. You amazing. All right. Hey, we gonna have to actually. Let's go.

00:34:49

My. I mean, I have to actually go, man. I'm gonna pay you for your time. Who looks for being. Is he on something?

00:34:57

Appreciate you sound like it. I love you. My. I'm not doing it again. Yeah, yeah.

00:35:03

You're not. I can't. Yeah, you're not. You're getting out of here. I don't have no problems with you.

00:35:07

I'm pay you for your time. But you can't validate, bro. I told you that. I'm not, though. I'm not.

00:35:14

I told you boyfriends are here. You know, it's me. It's me. Well, if you want to wait for us outside, you could, but I'm not going to see knock value your time neither, Daddy. Yeah, he looked.

00:35:33

He looks nuts. Y' all be hungover.

00:35:39

Come on, get up. Come on. It's a long clip. I'm just letting it play. This is Cam kindly escorting Adrian Broner out of his facility off of his set for being.

00:35:52

I think. I think he handled it perfectly. Absolutely. Like he gave you the warning. No.

00:35:58

And we tried to laugh it off the first couple times, like, yo, dog, somebody's boyfriend is here. You saying inappropriate shit like, this ain't. That. And we keep telling you to stop. I don't want to be that guy.

00:36:12

Shoot. But I'll say I like 90% of it. First of all, shout out to Cam for standing her defense. True. And for shutting it down.

00:36:21

The only thing I don't like about it, it shouldn't be about her boyfriend. Right. Her boyfriend being there isn't the reason why you have to shut that shit down. I think it's. No, no, no.

00:36:29

I think it's a combination of the two things. I think that. I think that in a manner in which they looked at it like we couldn't necessarily see her, but they could have seen her and seen her uncomfortability in the moment and stood their ground for her. But also, yo, if your man is here, that could present another problem. I get.

00:36:48

I'm saying, like, yo, everybody, man ain't with that shit. So I don't know who her man is, but he could be one of them types of niggas that's not with that shit. So I think that you just kill two birds with one stone. And if you're trying to convince somebody to stop doing some shit, especially somebody like Adrian Brody, it might be good to do whatever it takes takes to calm, to shut it down. I hear that again, to me, the headline still is, cam shut the shit down.

00:37:10

And that's something that does not happen 99% of the time in media. It should be highlighted. And it should be highlighted. He should be applauded for that. Yeah, I want to praise that.

00:37:18

Like, I want y' all to have y' all conversation. No, no, no. I think he. I do want to highlight. I think he did everything perfectly, because I've seen that happen a million times the other way.

00:37:26

And it just doesn't happen. They'll laugh it off. They'll giggle. I don't mean Cameron Mace. I mean other hosts in 20 years.

00:37:33

And I don't just mean urban media. I don't mean. I mean across the board, honestly, especially in mainstream media. I see this happen all the time, where the flirtation happens and nobody does anything. The few moments we see where it does get shut down and stuff like espn, I think with.

00:37:46

With Molly, who we'll talk about in a minute. Yeah. And things like that. But generally it doesn't happen. So shout out to Cam for shutting it down.

00:37:52

Thousand percent. They're overprotective of her too. Rightfully so. And they should be. Yes.

00:37:56

You know what I mean? They make it clear early that they don't play when it come to her. Yeah. The only thing I just. I just don't.

00:38:03

Sometimes we only protect. And this isn't what Cam is doing, but this is how it could be heard by the audience. We only protect the woman if it at a deference to the other dude. Like, I don't want to disrespect her, man. Right.

00:38:15

But let's say she doesn't have a man. We still should be defending her that way. And I think they would have. That's why. That's why I don't.

00:38:20

I don't like that comment because it almost lessens what they did, which I think is so important. No, no, that comment. Some dudes, them talking to Adrian Braun, letting him know, yo, her dude is here. Some will stand down because your dude is there. And that's the part I don't like.

00:38:34

But I'm not saying that he did it for that reason. That's the way to make you understand to where you chill. You can wait for us outside like, you my man. Ain't no beef with you. Yeah.

00:38:46

But we're not gonna let you come up here and disrespect her. Yeah. And sometimes a hearing. Yo, your man, her man is here. All right, Let me chill.

00:38:52

All right. Let me chill. I'm. I might have said the same thing. I just hate that that's often the thing that closes the deal.

00:38:58

As opposed to just like I'm standing down, standing up for my sister. Yeah, but we should love that. And I see the part that you hate about it. I don't want to negate what you're saying, but we should love that. That man, regardless of her man's.

00:39:14

That baby's man is there as a backbone in support of. I love that too. Like, we should champion that. Right. That's a good thing.

00:39:21

I don't. And I don't know because I took it the way that they saying. You clearly don't care that you're making her uncomfortable because I've asked you to stop. Yeah. And that should have been enough.

00:39:31

Right. You're continuing. So now I'm letting you know that we skipping a. We skipping a step. Me telling you her man is here, and that's my man.

00:39:40

So, you know, I'm carrying it for her. We skipping the next step. And we getting right to. We can meet you outside. Not me can meet you outside.

00:39:49

Right, right. Me and him could come talk to you after this. Yeah. Yeah. I think that people need to know that, you know, there's repercussions, action sometimes.

00:39:59

Yeah, I hear that. Yeah. I like them working in combination. Yeah. Like one shouldn't negate the other.

00:40:06

Even though I still understand what you're saying about the shockwave that it may seem. And that's what I'm saying. It's less the criticism of Camron and more a point of like. I hate that. That's the thing that makes back down.

00:40:15

It's like, oh, you gotta do. Then I'll stand down. As opposed to just. You're making me uncomfortable. You know what I'm saying?

00:40:21

That should be enough. That's all I'm saying. But again, shout out to the salute to them for. For the defense of her and for showing what it looks like to show us to stand. Stand up for somebody.

00:40:29

Yeah. Who you're not. Right, right, right. Because that's the other thing. A lot of times we only do it if we have a personal Interest in it, as opposed to I just care about this person or I don't know her, and I don't want this to happen.

00:40:39

Happen. Yeah. You know what I mean? So I think we running a show as a production. We want to come off or show that we out here, you know, supporting women and supporting our host.

00:40:48

Have y' all ever. I'm asking you two, because you. You are both hosts. Have y' all ever had to do that before? Like, kind of stop some from.

00:40:53

Like that from happening with guest hosts or co hosts or guests? No. Would y' all have handled it the same way? I would. Yeah.

00:41:00

I had some. I. I had something, definitely. Yeah, you had something before. Yeah. Like that.

00:41:05

And you handled it like that. Yeah. Just asking them to leave. Yo, you gotta leave. You gotta chill.

00:41:09

Because I know how the person that's in there gonna give it up and you're doing too much or the person that's watching live. A lot of the shit used to be live. So they're gonna come up here. So let me just stop this. Let me just.

00:41:19

For your safety and for me not to have an issue up here, you have to leave. Yeah. And then I took. And you take it down out of respect for all parties involved. I'm not even about to platform somebody where I ask you something and it go.

00:41:32

Just. Just disregarded that many. Yeah, I agree. That, too. Yeah.

00:41:35

That part, too, is disrespectful on the platform. Yeah. It's a good point to the host. Yeah. Yeah.

00:41:40

I love how Cam. I love who came. We need more of that. And Adrian Broner, you look. Oh, he looks.

00:41:48

Get it together, dog. He did not sound well. He didn't sound well. He didn't look well. He didn't present himself well at all.

00:41:57

It's horrible. I thought Cam was solid for still pain. Yeah, you wouldn't bet. Still gonna value your time. Yeah.

00:42:03

Yo, he might not even have been a paid guest. He might have just been my man coming up here. But you did this. I don't want you to waste your time. You might have.

00:42:12

That's a good way to think about it. You might have caught a flight here. You know what I'm saying? So I don't want to waste your time. That's how I interpret it.

00:42:20

You know, that's actually how I heard it. Like, you know, pay for guests. You know what I'm saying? But if somebody come here and some go awry, you might be like, dog, you might have caught a flight to come here. You might wasted your time.

00:42:30

You had A prior engagement or something. I'm gonna pay you. No harm, no foul. You still my. But you gotta go.

00:42:36

I think the whole thing was classy. Very stand up. Yeah, I think the whole was classy. I like it. I like it.

00:42:41

Love it. Did anybody see Dame on the Breakfast Club? It's a classic. Instant classic. Up there on full.

00:42:50

Absolutely. Yeah. On the walking. So I knew the interview was gonna happen because they've been talking back and forth on the Internet and he was. And basically Dame said, give me a fair one, like if you gonna talk about me, to meet me in person.

00:43:01

Yeah. And to their credit, they brought him in. And it was crazy. It was like an hour of just insults and jokes. And the history here is from his first Breakfast Club interview.

00:43:11

That was a classic. It was where he told them, y' all bosses, all the workers, y' all not real men. Y' all can't tell me y' all don't own nothing. Y' all clock in, yadda, yadda, yadda. So Envy.

00:43:25

Envy has been having a little fun with Dame and all of the reports of debt and. As he should, bankruptcy. And it was. It's still been respectful. I don't want to lie on Envy.

00:43:35

It's been respectful, fun. So a lot of eyes were on this interview, and it did not disappoint. This might be the first time where I plugged up to the Bluetooth to hear an interview while I was in the shower. Oh, yeah, this new surround sounds that you got. Right.

00:43:49

The. The. You got around the whole crib. No, just a regular Bluetooth. N. No, you got that in your B school bow speaker.

00:43:56

You stop clocking me. I went to your crib before. Don't clock. Nothing's going on in my crib. You got checked out this.

00:44:05

The speaker system in the shower. Well, of. That's two. That's I'm asking. Of course.

00:44:10

See, so. So I don't want beef. I just dream. So I'm gay. You trying to say.

00:44:14

No, I just thought you were nosy. Are you trying to bring the same energy over? I see what you're doing. There's lots of gay jokes. That was the whole interview.

00:44:21

You broke and you gay. You see how. You see how all the lights are up there? That's how many speakers he got in his crib. Snigger's lit.

00:44:28

So, you know, I mean, I had to check, you know, and I gotta. I gotta clock it. Got to. Gotta watch my man. Got to.

00:44:33

You know what I'm saying? Can't just come over. Yeah, you don't go to nigga's house and just watch it. No, no, no. That.

00:44:39

Absolutely not. Actually, no. You don't watch niggas furniture. Funny you should act from their house. No, I've never.

00:44:47

I don't. I've never been to none of Yalls house except for parks. Yeah, man, but I know where you live. My mom told me. No.

00:44:55

Why? How get in this. I know where you live. Well, my mama told me. Yeah.

00:45:00

Oh, look, I used to live right there, Dame on the Breakfast Club. And I know what it cost to live there in 01, so I know what it looked like now. And I heard you got more than three bedrooms. Big step up. So, yes, that thing did get lick back on the Breakfast Club.

00:45:19

He went up there and just dissed him the whole time. Yeah, he wanted to get his lick back. Yeah, that's it. But I thought Charlamagne was old school. Charlamagne.

00:45:26

Yes. Yeah, he was. He was fighting back. He was fighting back. I thought he did more than that.

00:45:30

I love what Charlamagne. You're lying. He was just like. I thought you called that nigga Dead Dash. He called him Dead Dash and said he should work for Debt Jam.

00:45:42

That's funny. That's really funny.

00:45:46

This interview, I think they handled it way more appropriately, like, because Dame came up there to basically insult them. Yeah, yeah, but they're professionals and they were laughing at him. And I think it had a counter effect of what he thought, you know what I'm saying? Like, I think his sole purpose up there was to go up there and belittle them because he looks at them like they not street niggas. And so he brings that element to it.

00:46:11

Like, yo, I would punch you in your face. And all that other stuff. Stuff. Oh, I have that clip. And I just think that's.

00:46:15

He told me never sold drugs. Yeah, that's what all them do, though.

00:46:22

You guys look at my Instagram. I've been editing for 6 months. Stupid. Cause you're dumb. How would you know?

00:46:28

You're in this coffin every day. Count Dumbular. I want to wear your suit in my coffee. But I'm talking to you about in the interview. How should I know?

00:46:37

I knew so when we asked the question. Yo, I'm talking to him now. See what you're doing, girl. Do that. Let me say this.

00:46:43

You acting like a girl. You move like an old auntie. You an old Harlem. I could punch you right in your face like a grown man. I won't and you won't do.

00:46:54

I've Seen you run. That's a. I've seen you. I'm not saying I will. I'm saying no. No.

00:46:59

Then you. This is old school breakfast. Different than mine. We were on the street right now and you would talk like that. I would have you up.

00:47:05

But I'm not going to do that. Not. I wouldn't have got beat up. But then I wouldn't have got beat up. Let's.

00:47:09

Let's end this. So let me say one more thing. It's a rather long clip. All right. No, you're right.

00:47:14

You're right. How you want to leave? You can't get in your emotions and want to leave. Dang. No, what I'm saying is when you interrupt me and you say certain things where I'm from, the masculine man.

00:47:25

Will you up. Let me finish. No, I didn't. I said. I didn't say.

00:47:29

I said I could and you wouldn't do it. And here we go. Right. I didn't see that on tape. You ran.

00:47:34

Yeah, cuz it was four guys. But that's cool. Ask what happened when 30 guys jumped. I got that ass.

00:47:43

What happen? Head trauma. Ever since.

00:47:53

There's a million more. There's a million more clips. It's all gold going around. But this entire interview is Charlamagne was hilarious. I think part of why it works is cause Charlamagne does actually get rattled by it.

00:48:04

Yeah. You know what I mean? That's the professionalism. Like. And I know what you're doing, right?

00:48:08

Your goal is to try to get under my skin. So even if you get under my skin, I'm not gonna let you do it. Right? And now we look. And this is the bad part.

00:48:15

Like, I hate seeing Dame even in this fashion. Cause now they looking at Dame like, yo, dawg, you a joke. Like, I think the world is looking at this. Like, yo, you getting up there and you belittling yourself and you taking yourself from the Dame that we once knew to down here. Mature view of things, man.

00:48:32

It's just the Internet, bro. I feel like you went up there to talk shit. I'm trying to get their name in the algorithm. Keep the. It brings more light to what you got going on.

00:48:40

It could be a rollout that could been planned. They knew what they was getting into. It's like when I was doing. When people knew when I was coming. I didn't necessarily arrange it, but they knew this is what's coming with it when we're together.

00:48:53

That's what I'm saying. You got such a. Hold on. Hold On Mark, you got such a mature. You got such a mature view on shit.

00:48:59

And I get what you're saying from a mature standpoint, like, yo nigga was up here. But sometimes niggas conform or whatever the fucking word is to what's going on the Internet now. And to watch a nigga that was once the mogul, one of the biggest moguls in urban music. Yes. Now, no disrespect, resort to skitty shit to get algorithms moving.

00:49:19

It's crazy. David's been talking shit and joking and being back and forth with people for a long time. Even when he was a mogul, he was running around being funny. Not, like trying intentionally to be funny and executing being funny like he did today on the Breakfast. I do think it looks different if the world perceives you as being up here and you like, fuck y' all dumb niggas, right?

00:49:40

It's red as one thing. I think it does look different if the public now believes that you're broke. I'm not saying Damon's right. I don't know his money. But the public sees you as now at the bottom.

00:49:49

Those same things you did before get looked at different. I'm not saying it's good or bad, right or wrong, but it definitely looks different today than it did 20. Like 20 years ago. Niggas was clown. Or whenever the interview was, people were clowning, they were laughing at envy.

00:50:00

Like, yo Dane was killing envy right now. I don't think people are walking away with that same. But that ain't got nothing to do with this interview. That's what I'm saying. I don't think this interview changed nobody's mind on Dane.

00:50:09

If you've been watching him on the Internet for the last however long you thought this about him, this just. All right. This is Dane being what we've been seeing him be. And if you haven't been watching him on the Internet and heard this interview, you come away with similar notion. Yeah, yeah.

00:50:27

I think he went up there to be funny, and he went up there. That's it. That's what I said. I don't think it's. I think that.

00:50:31

I just think it backfired. I think a lot of niggas that do it, I think it's just. It's just where you at in life, in society, right? If fifth do it, niggas laugh. Well, I said we crazy, but you can't call him broke or say anything about him because of what he has now.

00:50:44

That dame and his business is all on the Internet. And niggas is making fun of him. Cause a lot of times when you. You. When you were once here and you looked at as a fall of grace, people take that time to get back in and point.

00:50:56

But he. But he always been like that. Like Paul said, that's him. We've seen Dame t fall out while he was talking. Exactly.

00:51:02

It's different. It's not the same. It's different 20 years ago. People are looking at you differently for a real reason here. It ain't just.

00:51:09

You talk like we've seen things that we never would have seen with Dane before. That's what I'm saying. If 20 years ago, I would have told you that 20 years from now, Dame dad, his teeth gonna be falling out on camera. He's gonna be doing, like you said, skitty stuff. And I was looking at this.

00:51:21

It came out last year, but I was reading his. On his. On his YouTube channel, American New. The headline is dame dash exposes Jay Z's biggest secrets. Right.

00:51:31

There's no way 20 years ago you could put a gun in my head. I would not have believed that he would ever have a video on his network entitled that. And I'm not saying he did the titling, but it's his network, so I think it's fair. I'm just saying there's a different perception of him now than then. And I hate it because I have so much respect and admiration for what he's built.

00:51:49

I hate that this is what it looks like. But that interview was still entertaining either way. I mean, he's still entertaining. Yeah. He just called Charlamagne gay the whole time.

00:51:59

He ain't entertaining anybody. Oh, how'd you feel? It is entertaining, man. It was some of the greatest ever. No, that was an amazing interview.

00:52:08

I. I cannot lie. Yeah, I loved it. I don't like seeing Dame like that. Yeah. I don't like.

00:52:14

I don't. I don't think he. He does himself any favors any. Now if I think that. I think.

00:52:20

I feel like Dame cares too much about what people have to say. And that's not the Dame that I knew. Dame seemed like a lot of this interview was him trying to prove to people that. Or the room that he wasn't broke. Yes.

00:52:35

I mean, came in dressed to the nines and all that. Yeah. But he started asking them, hey, if. If. If somebody borrows 100 million from the bank versus somebody who only.

00:52:45

Who only has 5 million, who has more money? Like, he was just asking him a whole bunch of financial institution questions. He was Calling them stupid for not knowing the answer. Like, what does it matter if people think you're broke? Does it matter if people think you're broke?

00:52:59

What if he's not broke? Then why would it matter if people think you broke? Because I'm not used to y' all talking to me and treating me a certain way. Yeah, because you used to. You used to walk around as the undisputed, quote, unquote, cakeaholic.

00:53:12

That's what he used to call himself. I'm a cakeaholic. I'm gonna do X, Y, and Z. And you built part of your name on. Yo, I'm doing it this way.

00:53:21

And anybody that does it that way is stupid. Y' all not men. He called. He told these people, yo, you are not a man. If you work for somebody else, you're not a man.

00:53:30

So now I'm saying I'm going this avenue, and I'm a stand strong on this particular point of view. And now that point of view to the masses is not working out. To everybody else, it looks like you are failing. Right. And so now, as a result, there's some image control that you feel you got to do.

00:53:49

I saw him reply to what? To my reply to him, and some of that included that he taught me everything I know about podcasting. Is that not true? That's not true, Mark.

00:54:04

I didn't know. What percentage of what you know about podcasting would you like. You're ducking this a little bit, so, like, 90%, maybe. Yep.

00:54:20

Let me ask you a question. Doing that face again. So I heard him say that. And you know what? Y' all are right.

00:54:28

Because I know. I know this room. I know the Internet. Y' all are right. He did.

00:54:34

He did. He did 98 accountability, but even that breakthroughs at 45. See, but we playing around, and I'm down to play around. My favorite thing to do. But hearing Dame even say that, it's like, oh, we just.

00:54:56

We just saying whatever. Like, now we're just saying anything. And that's not if we know Dame from back then. No, you. You.

00:55:05

It's your word and your balls. It's. We speaking truth, we speaking facts. We speak and we uplift, and this. This.

00:55:11

So then let me ask you a question about that then. Do you think he's bullshitting, or do you think he believes what he's saying is just wrong? Or do you think it's like a rebrand? Yeah, yeah. Like, let me get into the talk shit space.

00:55:20

Yeah. It could be all of it. Right, Right. It could Be a rebrand. It could be.

00:55:26

I'm getting in the talk. Shit space. It could be. Fuck y' all, niggas. It could be.

00:55:31

It could be a bunch of things. What could he possibly believe he taught you like. No, no, he knows better than that. I'm just asking. He doesn't.

00:55:38

He might believe it. He doesn't believe that. I think the point. I think it's the entrepreneurship. The own.

00:55:42

Your own. The rejecting the corporate approach. Turning them contracts down. That's all lessons he got. I hate you guys.

00:55:48

During his time. During his time in the Rockefeller roster. Yeah. It really took you under his wing. Be an in the boardroom.

00:55:56

Yeah. The fact that he said that, man, listen, what I tell you. This is what I tell you. I gained on. I understand after the Breakfast Club interview, after hearing him say that about me and just watching how he's carrying on.

00:56:13

I. I get it. I understand. I understand. I totally get it. That's back to the Adrian Broner Cameron platform certain.

00:56:25

I totally understand him not going. Not. It's. Yeah, you get it. Tell me you don't get it.

00:56:33

Don't make me say it. No, no, you get it. I'm not saying it. Nobody gotta say I don't follow. But I was one of the people that.

00:56:39

Once upon a time. How could you do that? Boohoo, boohoo. How could you. Come on, Dame.

00:56:47

And I'm not even gonna put his name in this. Now you see that? Good call. Right call. What a call.

00:56:56

Foresight. Right call to make, buddy. That's the great thing about this shit. When you know some. Some of these people that's on the Internet and the rest of the Internet don't know that person.

00:57:07

And you could just sit back with your. And look at your G shock and just wait until the Internet gets introduced to that person.

00:57:15

Took a little while. Now you understand us. Yeah, I get it. Protect your space. Yo, that's a good one.

00:57:23

Yeah, that was a good rapper. You got to protect your space. $3 billion on the Internet right now. Yo, y' all gotta see Joe and Dame interview.

00:57:34

Yeah, yeah. He's a chairman of Revolt now. Should round of applause. Oh, yes, yes, yes. That was one of the important takeaways from the interview.

00:57:44

He. He said that he's chairman of Revolt. That he is. Well, no, he said I'm chairman of Revolt now. And he's in the process of trying to acquire the company.

00:57:56

After the interview, Lauren LaRosa sort of hours later posted a sort of correction, a fact check. A little fact check. Yeah. Community Notes. I spoke to the publicity department or publicist at Revolt and they say that they are not.

00:58:10

He's not the chairman. Right. He then responded on his Instagram and said, I'm chairman for a month. I'm gonna continue to do movies. Which is what he said in the interview.

00:58:20

Take the l don't try and, you know, get me with a technicality. So effectively he's saying he's chairman for a month. Yeah. I don't know what's true or not. I don't think Dame would lie about that.

00:58:30

I think it's a miscommunication here. Now that makes sense. The heads over at Revolt would get out of the puff business and jump into the Dame Dash business. That'll clean it up. And to keep the stability, they're gonna do a full.

00:58:41

That'll really get this looking like it's supposed to look. I don't know, man. I'm minding my business, but I understand it now. I'll tell you that much.

00:58:48

I'll tell you that much. Much. That one thing is for certain. You heard me. You heard me.

00:58:53

When you went to go get some food, I just had a conversation with Parks. I mentioned the same people like fam. I get it. So it could be great minds think alike then. Oh, not.

00:59:04

I'm es dropping on you for. For takes.

00:59:11

He said, let me go. Let me pretend to go to the bathroom so I can. This is. Take this kitchen. Take.

00:59:20

Damn. See, that's the other part too, though. And I'll close this up because I don't want to stay here. That's what's corny about the Internet at 40 plus. See, and.

00:59:30

And the 20 year old niggas is having a blast with the Internet. It's the best thing in the world. I remember those days at 40 plus when I see people I know on the Internet wigging out. I think they having a health issue.

00:59:45

That's the first place my brain go. It don't go to. Yo, he doing it for clicks. Yeah, he playing again. Algorithm.

00:59:52

I think like we be shooting people a lot of bail. Some of these are short circuiting in your face, in our face. Everybody ain't Chadwick and about to handle it with grace. Some of these are up.

01:00:10

I don't know nobody health business. But if you 40 plus and you on the Internet looking a certain type of way I put you. I pray for you harder than I was.

01:00:21

And then I can't even come on air and have fun with the. And it'd be funny. Yeah, that's funny. It's funny. I can't have fun because of stupid, like, compassion and tact sensitivity.

01:00:34

You is funny. I want to come in and laugh at all you and then stay home knowing you want to do something to me. That's what I want to do. I would be home watching new shows, whatever. Mark.

01:00:47

No, I was gonna say, speaking of doing something to you, like. Oh, shit. No, no, no, not you. Just Dame was clowning Charlemagne. He said, like, I seen you outside in the street and you ran.

01:00:56

And he was like, well, there were four people. And he was like, yeah, well, you seen what happened to me when 30 niggas was chasing me. Just so I understand is the hood rules. If four people come, you just gotta take the L. You shouldn't run. Even four people, you up.

01:01:06

Like, is that rules I don't know about? I might run with two. You can't run if it's the right one. I'm running if it's the right one. If it's the right one, I'm out of here.

01:01:19

Taking flight. Oh, but you live. You live to fight another day. I don't think it's aj. Bruno been right in my studio.

01:01:28

I don't think it's shame and running. If running is a viable option to survive, then it's on the table. It's not masculine. The. It's not.

01:01:38

Now, I will also say I ain't done it a bunch. I ain't done it a bunch. Might have been one little time when I was 15, 16, and I had them problems with the whole block. How tall was he? No, it was a block.

01:01:51

It was a block, okay? There was a block of people. People. It was a dangerous block. And an athletic was persistent.

01:02:04

Come to think of it, them was hitting them gates like me, right? They had stamina. It was two pocket them gates. They was out. At some point, we had to stop and just negotiate.

01:02:18

That is funny. Yeah. I ain't gonna do a whole bunch of running, but. Yeah. Have y' all done that ice?

01:02:23

You ever. You. You had to take the run. No flip. Yeah, I ran before.

01:02:27

How many was it? I won, like, 15 people. See, I love how every only ran when it's like the whole football, you know, he about to gas it, right? It was 20. 20 of them.

01:02:42

All I had was brass knuckles. It was 15 bullets.

01:02:49

That little Blanca move don't work when it's 20 people. It worked at one time. I don't want to talk wherever you was, but outside. Oh, you pressing charges Outside, period. And on top of that, like, yeah, I Had to run, had knives.

01:03:06

And so I got up out of there. You gotta. Your safety is first. That's it. Look, and I ain't gonna lie.

01:03:10

I mean, I'm. I've only done that twice that I could think of. But one time it was three of them. But three, Three was enough for me. I was like, I'm not fighting three people.

01:03:16

If I could not fight three people, I'll be damned if you gonna come on my show to talk about when I ran.

01:03:25

Like, even Nestle, Charlamagne is just a good dude, but he don't give a fuck. That's the thing I appreciate about Charlama, I love about him is he don't give a fuck about. He called him and he kind of stood and he like, and I beat you up. He's like, yo, face outside. I'll beat you up.

01:03:40

Even. That's the other thing. At 50 years old, I don't want to hear. I don't want to hear who you going to beat up and who you're not going to beat up at 50. Yo, once you get to talking about that at this age, it should be in self defense.

01:03:55

Yeah. It shouldn't be who you about to set it on. And if so, then it contradicts all of the big money talk that I. I don't know, man. Listen, let me tell you something. All I'm saying is I know part.

01:04:04

We got prospect, but I understand, I understand. Paul, you good. You gotta deal with them. We can see, bro. We see.

01:04:12

I understand. I'm not talking to you. Well, I'm sitting here now. You get at you too. And as you stopped me earlier, but I was gonna say to you, you said that who cares if niggas said that you're broke, right?

01:04:24

That's what you stated then I was gonna say to you then, I don't think anybody said you broke, but you leaked what you made. You leaked your joint. So. Okay, it was a mistake. The Internet theory, though, was that you leaked it because you were insecure because all these other streamers were making so much money and you didn't want people to think that they made more money than you, so you did that to deal with your insecurity around it.

01:04:46

That's the Internet theory. And that would be true if I was born in the Internet era like Joe. But Joe Buttons that I love and double down on this season. I bought more Joe Budden seats this season. So no, I wasn't trying to prove a point.

01:05:02

You'll be really corny. See, that's My point. That goes into my point, right? You would be really corny to do that. That's corny.

01:05:10

You be screaming out your burrow and then ignoring the corny and then saying never mind, man. A lot of corny happened on Internet for attention and you don't have to do it. Learn a trade. Play spades, call up three of your friends. Get a monopoly game going.

01:05:32

Buy a laundromat, get a barbershop. Here we go into my same speech. Play Scully, throw the quarters at a wall. You. Oh my lord, you.

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01:07:17

Back to music. Back to music. Let's get it. What? What are we doing?

01:07:21

What's important? What needs our attention? We finally get a Cardi rollout and a Cardi album and a Cardio Friday and a party track list. I mean not. Well, we got the feature list.

01:07:29

Features. You want to hit that first? Yeah, please. We have Janet Jackson's on there. Okay, nice.

01:07:35

That should be interesting. Cash Cobain. Makes sense. Kehlani Lizzo, Meg, which I think is wop. Summer Walker.

01:07:44

Summer Walker. Selena Gomez and Tyler. And Tyler Girl title. Yes, yes. She's Nice.

01:07:54

I think the Selena Gomez is going to be the pop record. I think that's pretty fair assumption. And probably a Tyler record too. I'm surprised we haven't gotten one. I think we'll get one before Friday.

01:08:04

A record. Yeah, yeah. Just will sat down with Kelly Rowland, did an interview in the clouds. She did a Jennifer Hudson and everybody came to work that day. Yeah, she working, bro.

01:08:17

She did the subway. She popped up in Harlem. She did the bodega she was at in Washington Heights. I want to flip. Flip was there.

01:08:24

Oh, you were there. How you know? Stop watching me. They told me you was there. Don't watch it.

01:08:32

Yeah, it was. Watch the Heights. It was nice. You had the front row seat. What happened?

01:08:36

What you got for us? It was nice. I mean, first of all, listen, I'm coming off that situation that happened, so it's a lot of questions that people asking me. So when I said it was nice, I had to get through the crowd and get through security. Did you ask about them shots?

01:08:53

What shots? Oh, so no, you didn't. Okay, Sock that she sent to you, The Cool Whip shots. A nigga is self preserved. Yeah, yeah.

01:09:00

I forgot who I was talking to. Of course he didn't ask. No, I believe you. The shots. You ain't thinking about that.

01:09:05

You trying to get your own. Yeah. I mean, nah, but it's still. It's still a lot. No, I'm trying to flip your network.

01:09:11

Yeah, yeah. I got to look where we at. This network is heavy. This in front of us, too. Making moving pizzas.

01:09:20

This like, like in a Rubik's Cube in front, like, you know what I'm saying? So I gotta make sure my is good. But. But every day, working hard every day. You are, you are.

01:09:30

That's it. You are. But it was great seeing her. I mean, a lot of people showed out. They showed up for her and it looked packed out.

01:09:36

It's a lot of love for her. Yeah, feels good. That, I mean, hand in hand, promotion is back and whatever. She's trying to take it back in the days. The street team.

01:09:43

I. I like, I like that. The angle that she's going and she seems to be focusing on like New York. Yeah, I like that you're from New York. You built your career from being a New York girl. Like your organic, natural market you loved.

01:09:54

Go to the Bronx. Go to the areas where, you know what I'm saying? That might be forgotten by. Once you get the superstardom, I'm gonna go back home. I think it's fire.

01:10:03

I Agree. Saving my commentary. I knew you. I knew it. You couldn't help me.

01:10:08

I knew it. What are you gonna say? Saving money. What are you gonna say? The budget not there.

01:10:13

What are you gonna say? What are you gonna say? Oh, you know, you know what this mean with the label. The label man, you know. But I think.

01:10:19

I think if the label not giving you the support that they may necessarily be accustomed to getting, then you take. What if that's a part of the support? It could be. I'm just saying if they not. Then you take the matters in your own hands and you do the shit yourself like we saw the clips do.

01:10:32

I think it's fire saving. What I got to say going to matter to win.

01:10:41

Say it. Well, say it. I got two. Two options, actually. I got three options.

01:10:47

Okay. Upon release of the album. Okay. Upon first week and upon second week. So I gotta pick my spots because she'll diss me for sure.

01:10:58

I can't just jump in with what I think about things because she'll fire up down the spaces live.

01:11:08

I'm chilling. I'm saving my. Saving my ear drink. I gotta save it. Yeah.

01:11:12

I mean, I can't just give it to him, you know, I mean, I gotta. I gotta play it cool. Do you hold. I hope the album is good though. Okay.

01:11:21

I hope the album is great. Like, I hope that I'm wrong about all of the signs and what it looks like. The feature list. Not for nothing, looks like it was not the cheapest.

01:11:34

That doesn't feel cheap to me. That lineup we gotta see. I agree. Because they said that was the first. They said that was the first time Janet Jackson feature on a female song ever.

01:11:45

Damn. Really? I thought that was such a wild stat. Wow. We know for sure.

01:11:51

Like it's a feature, like a verse. I thought it might be just a sample. That's what I was. It's listed as such. So.

01:11:56

I mean, I guess we'll wait and see, but. Okay. I would hope. Okay. Well, we know Janet is a big fan of Cardi.

01:12:02

Yeah. So I would think it's a feature if they're running around with that stat about her and features. Got it. Yeah. I don't think they would announce it that way if it wasn't.

01:12:12

But I could be wrong. The features say that there's a song on there that they could have gave us instead of imaginary players. For sure. Or it says that they tried to hit every single demo. Demo.

01:12:21

Every demo. Yeah. Yeah. Left no box unchecked. Maybe we're going to see a lot of post, post album release work.

01:12:27

Okay, so we'll see. Either way, I'm rooting for Cardi, even if she doesn't think I am. And I'm saving my commentary. I mean, I'm excited. I want to hear that one.

01:12:39

Yeah, me too. Me too. Is anybody else dropping this Friday? Yeah, to our knowledge. No, no, no.

01:12:44

It's next Friday. They don't even know what day it is. These run together. Only thing I know dropping this Friday is the iPhone. You got your.

01:12:56

You got your already. You damn right. Let me check. Go ahead. Y' all talk anyway.

01:13:00

Okay, so Cardi rollout her album this Friday. Let's see what else? What else? What else? Oh, the clips at the Vatican.

01:13:08

The clips were at the Vatican to perform. Oh, yeah. First rap group ever. First rappers ever, I want to say, to perform at the Vatican. That look absolutely amazing.

01:13:18

That looked like Mike Opulence. Mike Dean did the visuals. That looks crazy, dog. And real quick, there is something else dropping Friday. Thug album is dropping Friday.

01:13:30

Really? Yes. What? The. The video that he put up, the one that we talked about.

01:13:36

Miss you, miss my dog at the end of the video, he album Scooty, I think is how you say it. And the date, 919. That was the other album dropping Friday. That seems premature, but awesome. If so, okay, so we should be getting new thug Friday.

01:13:54

He might have been working. That's just odd. Yeah, that is odd. It is super odd. That's odd.

01:14:00

What were we talking about? Oh, the best clips at the Vatican clips. Was that your vision decision? While I'm reminiscing it, all the birds don't sing. They scream.

01:14:27

This is fire, man. Yeah. Everything about the visual. Top tier, amazing. Top tier.

01:14:34

Just having a rap group at the Vatican is super fire. When they came in looking like that. Oh, yeah, the band all. That was amazing. Yo, that choir, along with that orchestra.

01:14:53

What? Along with John Legend, along with the clips and. And how they look. The esthetic all around was amazing. Every.

01:15:01

Everything in here. This was a real proud moment for. For. For me. Yeah.

01:15:06

Really proud moment. And what a icing on the cake to what has been a phenomenal rollout, for sure. I don't think they done every time. I think. All right, what next?

01:15:18

Oh, something else come out. Yeah, I got them boys working. Working till the awards. They're not gonna. Yeah, yeah.

01:15:27

I. I think that they. I think they working for something different. I believe them when they say, I. I want a Grammy. Yes. I want a Grammy.

01:15:33

Yeah. It's not cheap to me. It means something. It means A lot. I. I could see it.

01:15:37

You don't get. You don't get this close to having the eight ball in the corner. And. And I think they're gonna get it. I think they are, too.

01:15:43

I've been said it. I think they're gonna get it. Deserve is a different question. And I think they deserve it. But I'm just saying, people may have their own opinions about what the best album is, but they clearly have the narrative.

01:15:51

They got the rollout, they got the presentation, and they got an amazing album, and they're putting the album everywhere. So, like, even I know the voting board changed on the Grammys, but still, even if you didn't catch some of the other, you're gonna see them somewhere, and this goes a long way toward winning it. Yeah. Yeah. It's gonna be great.

01:16:07

Yeah. No shout out to the clips that. That. That powerful. Powerful.

01:16:11

And who on the album has a song to do at the Vatican? Word. That part matters. That part is fly to me. That matters.

01:16:22

You could go to 90 of the rappers right now and say you're performing at the Vatican. They did. They need to hear the song first. Send it to us. They ain't got one.

01:16:32

Yo, coke on the stove. Yeah's favorite song. Shot that in the face by mc. Did it again. It's not.

01:16:44

Speaking of ice favorites. Mc. I'm not innocent. Well, speaking of ice favorites, Jeezy had the final show of his tour in Detroit. Looked amazing, but the beautiful part about that was Jeezy announced a new album dropping next Friday and a Vegas residency.

01:16:58

I am excited. Jeezy fans, we're all excited. It's Jeezy and Drama again. And they don't miss. So that album is gonna be crazy.

01:17:05

I'm sure that Detroit show was crazy. It looked single me would have went out there and had three threesomes. Detroit showed out like they look because it live streamed it. Oh, they did. Yeah, they live.

01:17:16

Oh, man, I miss it. And even that. Yo, time to go to Vegas. Live streamed it. It.

01:17:23

Even that move. Live streamed it on his YouTube channel. Had 30,000 in there the whole show. Oh, wow. We're going to Vegas.

01:17:31

Let's go. You know we going to Vegas for a cheesy residency. Come on, don't be foolish. That's happening. Don't be foolish, you guys.

01:17:41

Black tie affair. Come on up for the whole residency. Really? I might gamble.

01:17:48

Yo, Jeezy residency in Vegas. I might hit the table. Might have to just. Yeah, with a blaze on. Give you a hair, though.

01:17:56

With a blaze on. With a cigar. Come on. Jeezy out there. Yeah.

01:18:01

It ain't too many rap shows. I'll travel for Jeezy. Jeezy. I'll travel, Jeezy. Residency in Vegas.

01:18:06

Making a night of it. That would be fly. Making a night of it. That would be fly. Vegas policy.

01:18:15

Yep. I spent too much time on the Internet. I know all of Vegas been thanks to Vegas Paulie C. You know what? Of course you do. You know?

01:18:24

Of course I do. Vegas Paulie C is just going everywhere in Vegas and spilling all of the tea on what lot costs $9 billion, what this hotel is making versus what they losing. Oh, shit. He's spilling all Vegas tea. Shout out to Vegas, Paulie.

01:18:40

See, man, he go right up in there and tell the business, like, the business part of Vegas. Vegas, the sphere, F1, all the big money team. Anyway, what else? What else is happening? Yeah, I do all that bigging somebody up, somebody they know family is listening.

01:18:59

And you come right in with that little ugly. Wow. That's not. That's not nice. Let me see what he looks like, though.

01:19:06

You called Ice ugly? Soon as we came on. What's up with you? You're really. Yeah.

01:19:09

You're really judging guys today. Say, what I was expecting. Let me see. This look like powder. Yeah.

01:19:15

Vegas, Paulie. Disrespectful as hell. Yeah. Does that change how you receive the information that he gives? Not at all.

01:19:23

It just makes his joke a lot funnier. Man, leave that man alone. Yeah, yeah. Everybody not smooth like you. Oh, man, leave him alone, bro.

01:19:33

Go out there and do what he doing, man. For Newark. Newark. For Newark. Well, this apartment right here, this cost.

01:19:42

We go inside. Hey, yo. A Drake record or unreleased record came out, Joe. Yeah, I sent it to the group chat. I liked it.

01:19:50

What you did. And I said, how is it? And nobody said nothing. Yeah, nobody did say that. That told me anything I needed to know.

01:19:55

I like the record. You don't like it. I know. I saw your tweet about it. I liked it.

01:19:58

I liked it, too. I'm just saying nobody responded. I like the record. What'd you like about it? I like what he was saying, and I like the beat.

01:20:07

I like what he was saying. You know what I mean? I thought he was in his bag. I'm just tired of it. This is the Demar DeRozanbis.

01:20:14

This is what they're calling it. I'm tired of it. I know he's gonna keep doing it, and I understand it, but I am tired of the such and such turned they back on me. I don't fuck with such and such no more because y' all not loyal. Like, I get it.

01:20:32

I don't. Give me something different at this point. Now, in his defense, is light skinned hurt different though, man. It's a leak. So I'm not.

01:20:40

I can't. I can. I can only take it with a grain of salt. It's a leak. If this was a single, if this is on the album, I'm gonna treat it differently.

01:20:45

It's a leak. Now, how that leak came out, different conversations, who knows? You heard a light skinned guy, they're gonna let you know. It's like the next 40 years, you got to deal with their tears and they cockamate. Sensitive.

01:21:02

It's another word for it too. I can't say, but you guys are such.

01:21:07

You guys made me want to get a spray tan and jumping make me want to hit the tannin salon on you. Light skin sensitive jerks and Scorpios just ain't good people either. Well, I'm at. Oh, my God. Skin Scorpio, stomach sculpted.

01:21:31

Hey, I'm saving my commentary on Drake and Cardi. Okay, that's my list. Got it. That's my list. We could tell.

01:21:37

Got it. Saving my commentary on Drake and Cardi until music is released and I have something of substance that's subjective to offer. There we go. That's fair. That is fair.

01:21:47

Yo. That's what we need more of. Update on Lil Nas X. I know a lot of you were worried about them, especially up here. We were. He is doing.

01:21:57

He's doing much better. That's good. According to his team, he is in. In. He's in patient care getting treatment, which means that he's recovering from whatever he was dealing with.

01:22:07

I don't know. They didn't say, like, drug treatment. They didn't say mental health treatment, I suspect. Did you post a picture? Not from the treatment.

01:22:16

But did they reach out to you directly? I did get a press release. I did get a press release. Release it to me. That's how I know.

01:22:22

But no pictures were attached. But if they do, I'll send it to you. I wonder what the Mark Lamont Hill mailing list looks like. It's ridiculous. It's weird to hodgepodge.

01:22:32

But hopefully he'll be okay and hopefully this will help him in his court case. Because a lot of times when you do, when you see the press release like this for inpatient treatment, drugs, mental health, you're hoping to avoid jail time because he's been accused of Assaulting a police officer. Officer. And so to say. I was out of my mind.

01:22:48

I was high. And I'm getting treatment for it. It's usually the way out. Got it. Yeah.

01:22:51

So I wish him luck in that. Okay. As do I. Yeah, yeah. Good luck. Thoughts and prayers and peace.

01:22:59

Season peace from the whole crew. Peace and peace. Joe, tell me about Saweetie. Man, oh, man. Sweetie.

01:23:04

Yeah. I heard you had a sweetie up there. You and Park's favorite rap. Yeah, Yeah. I love Saweetie, too, man.

01:23:09

I've been liking a couple of pictures. I saw you like. I saw you like it. That's why you liked it. Okay.

01:23:16

Little joint. What an astute observation. No, Little joint with Nessa was looking. You hear me? Soon as I see the you you send, you send them my way, fam.

01:23:27

I don't know what you talking about. That's what happens. That's exact. That's how they get your way. Yeah, that's what happens.

01:23:33

I send them. Can I do your doc? Can't do my nothing. Can I please? Can I do your doc?

01:23:41

Cause you ain't going to. You don't need your doc rights because you ain't gonna do it. Can I do your documentary? For real? You looking crazy.

01:23:51

I loved in the Charlie Sheen doc. Oh, you finally watched it. I did watch the Charlie Sheen doc. I like in the open, how he says. And all of these things that we're about to talk about.

01:24:01

There's only one person that knows the answer. And they just flashed on all the people in his life that are gonna know the answer. They got everybody. New wife, ex wife, old wife. The daughter popped up.

01:24:15

The drug dealer was here. Everybody. Your best friend from when you were six, Sean. Sean Pen is here. Slash.

01:24:24

Pops and brother didn't show up, though. Out of here. Billy west said n dog. Now, that was my main. One of my main takeaways.

01:24:33

Damn. My ADD kicking in, though. Was we supposed to talk about this? We talking about sweetie, but it was cool. We can do this.

01:24:44

My. One of my main takeaways from this is shout out to. Shout out to Martin Sheen. What a dad. Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:24:51

The entire story at just any spot you wanted to pick. He had to pop up and be like a dad. Yeah. Even when he's like, 40. Yeah, 50.

01:25:01

Even when he was lit. Yeah, he was still lit. And I gotta keep showing up, keep showing up, keep showing up, keep showing up. But I have. I have a spot in my heart for that because I feel like my mom's did some of that with me and My brother.

01:25:12

But when the parents just keep showing up, keep showing up in spite of just you. Yeah. Oh, I love that. Go Martin Sheen. Go Martin.

01:25:20

But if I did all that and then you called me years later to come and talk, I'm denying that call. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not picking up court for your bub. Yeah, I'm not doing that.

01:25:28

Yo, the what? The one, though. I forget my man name. But the co star and Two and a Half Men. Oh, yeah, Yeah.

01:25:35

I don't remember his name either. Yeah. Journalism. The co star. I don't remember his name.

01:25:40

Y' all know who I'm talking about. But the co star, what? Killing the dogs. He hate that. He was.

01:25:48

He tried every which way to try to say it without saying it. He absolutely hated John Cryer. Yeah. There we go. Go Parks.

01:25:57

Yeah. Salute journalism. Journalism journalist. How was your bag? You're supposed to know I was about to say, yeah, what's up?

01:26:03

But nah, he tried to be as politically correct as possible. He absolutely hated. Son. That was hilarious to me. And it's so common, too.

01:26:12

People work together like that. Like in. On, like, sets where the co. Where the co. Like the. Like, where you the up. And you making more money than.

01:26:20

Yeah, exactly. And you. The show up. You can do whatever you want. Y' all want me to come talk about this?

01:26:25

And they're like, that guy. Fuck him. Yeah. Talk about the definition of failing up. What?

01:26:31

Talk about this guy just. This guy just failed up and up and up. This guy, I think only went on one audition, maybe one in that possible and that up. Yeah. And just kept getting gigs, rolls falling in his lap.

01:26:48

Yeah. At no point, I think in the first gig, they told him this, how they were going over lines, and the pop father was like, yeah, go in there and do that and do nothing. Do that. He told him do nothing. Do nothing.

01:27:02

He didn't even understand the concept of acting when he was acting. Yeah, he was almost a Karate Kid, but he had a headache or some grizzly too. Stand up, man. Pops was like, you gave your word over here. Yeah.

01:27:17

You gotta keep your word. That was the right decision too, by the way. It was. Yeah. I know at the time, you don't think that, but we don't know Karate Kid from nothing else but Karate Kid.

01:27:29

Yeah. Now the point he made was the point he made. He was like, yo, it never gave him the chance to go out and do anything else. He was stuck. Yeah.

01:27:38

And he was right. I only thought Karate Kid was tough when I couldn't fight, cuz I Was a big bad man. Y second I learned how to fight that. Movies was out. The sorry boy Karate Kid almost got me.

01:27:52

I tried to do that. I tried to do this. That grabbed my leg, spun me around. Full nelson playing around up already. Yeah, but I mean, what else, what else, what else did I walk away with from this?

01:28:09

Oh, just the difference. When you got like a woman in your life who loves you for real. For real. And then you leave her and then go get with the local crackhead that you're gonna have a good time with. That was the other part.

01:28:21

His first wife loved him. Yeah, the wife. The actress wife. I forgot. Denise Richards, famously, of Hunting Housewives.

01:28:29

You say Denise Richards like she should be on my wife back in the day. She was. She was, sir. Elite. Elite.

01:28:36

Milk out of here. That's not true. Black girls.

01:28:42

I'm not trying to have a white girl moment with you. Get out of here. Denise Richards. Anyway. Wild things.

01:28:47

Is that what. No, she looks great. I'm talking to. But no, she look great. She look great.

01:28:52

She looked better with no lips. I don't know why she wouldn't did that to her lips. Yeah, a lot of you didn't need lips. Denise Richards. You didn't need lips.

01:28:59

But. But anyway, she really loved him and was there for him. Holding him down, feeding him with escorts coming from upstairs. Men out there, we make that mistake so much, we can't lead a girl who really love us for the local hookah crackhead from around the block, around the corner that's gonna have a good time with us. Solid advice.

01:29:21

I didn't even like how he started doing crack with Shorty, the new girl. First of all, they put that girl on my TV and she was still high. For sure. For sure. That girl was high as a kite.

01:29:32

Nose was crooked, her eye was. She had some Biggie Small going on on her eye. She kept twitching. I'm looking at my girl, I'm like, yo, she's hot now. She's high right now.

01:29:43

So they was begging. Seven gram rocks. Jesus. Fully. Fully specified, not saving some.

01:29:52

Fully. She looked like she had it on her right then and there during the confession. Smelled like it. For sure. For sure.

01:30:00

Yeah, she didn't. She didn't smell good, so. But we gotta stop making that mistake. We gotta stop making that mistake. Well, we gotta find better people to sell crack to.

01:30:08

What?

01:30:12

Yo, what? No, that drug dealer was getting some money off Charlie. You got a whole new place, he got a whole new apartment. And like that. What's the other part?

01:30:21

Even how he Met the drug dealer. The drug dealer fresh out of jail, gonna obey the law Now I'm leaving my life, a crime behind. Charlie Sheen just called him. He didn't know it was. Yo, who's this Charlie Sheen now?

01:30:35

You shitting me? No, it's me. No way. It's really me. Need that.

01:30:38

I need it. All of it. He put him back in the game. Yeah, he did. Yeah.

01:30:45

How he met the drug dealer was funny. How they weaned him off drugs was funny. That's the craziest shit. He started putting less coke in the crowd. You gotta step on your man.

01:30:55

You gotta get him off this. What? Baking soda. They cut his crack so much. Charlie Sheen lost faith in all of crack.

01:31:05

He thought he smoked all the crack. He thought, yo, that's my time crack. We had a blast. He didn't even go. He didn't go.

01:31:13

Try to find other crack. Yo, don't get me high no more, dog. Pass crack, man.

01:31:20

Do you know how much crack you had to have done? Seven gram rocks, yo, plural, dog. To think you outgrew the crack. Oh, that's crazy, son. Yo, that's hilarious, my yo.

01:31:35

No, he thought he beat the game. He said goodbye to all the crack. That's what told me something is off about dude. Dude went to go talk to Slash. Oh, man, the.

01:31:48

The rocker Slash and Slash had to say, man, you got a problem. Get, get, get. Get yourself some help. Oh, that was my other takeaway too. I didn't know Nicholas Cage was wilding like that.

01:32:02

Oh, yeah, either. I had no clue. He's up there on my rebrand list now. I didn't know that. I had no clue.

01:32:08

I had no clue. This nigga been bugging. I feel like I only know that because I've seen some do before that spoke about this same childhood crew. Nah, I seen some shit where Nicolas Cage was one of the hottest in Hollywood. Then he just fell off the planet.

01:32:22

You call Ice ugly. You call the Vegas dude ugly. But you think Nicholas Cage is hot. I don't mean hot popularity. Remember that nigga was in mad movies.

01:32:33

He just fell off. But do you think he's hot? No. Is he a type? No.

01:32:38

See, that's Ice playing. That's your newer. I wasn't playing. That's your Newark brother playing with you. Oh, man, here we go.

01:32:42

I ain't playing with you like that, though. Could you imagine what it was like to be rich, famous and white in the 80s? In the 80s? Oh, his favorite dream. See, now look who playing with you.

01:32:55

Look, look, look. No, we. We haven't imagined that. What say you? You probably did.

01:33:02

You probably did.

01:33:06

Speaking of rich and white and famous, Robert Redford passed away. Rest in peace. Oh, rest in peace. One of the great actors of the 20th century. Yes.

01:33:15

89 years old. He lived a long life. Obviously my favorite role for a lot of people with favorite role is black people. And my is a decent proposal. I would say the Godfather.

01:33:25

Oh, really? Sting, Nigga, that's your favorite role? For me, yeah. Sting was that shit, yeah. Oh, then I'm wrong.

01:33:30

For me, it's Godfather. Him as Tom Hagen for me was the most important role for me. But he's had so many. I mean, you could. You can name 10 movies of his and say that they're all classics.

01:33:40

I mean, he's an extraordinary actor, and he was a sex symbol of the 80s. He was loved and he had good politics. He was actually a good dude that seemed to be on the right side of a lot of issues. So you're a bag. Oh, yeah.

01:33:52

Tap that for sure.

01:33:56

That's your man.

01:33:58

Come on, relax. That's where y' all draw the line. All right, here we go. I found it. Oh, no, no, no.

01:34:06

You hold up for a second. Stephen. And that's a fire suit. Stephen. They got on sweetie sat with Nessa and talked about something called pretty punishment, which is the opposite of pretty privilege.

01:34:20

Okay. I bookmarked the clip just to play it for a misogynist Roman mark. That's not fair. Ice is not that either. That's not fair to any of us, actually.

01:34:30

I'll take that back, you guys. Thank you. To play it for an immature room. Here we go. Talk about it, man.

01:34:37

Do you feel like the industry has tried to count you out, like, since I started Talk about it, man. Because I think people look, to be honest, people see, you're gorgeous, you're getting endless bags. You are listening. Listen. That girl, right?

01:34:53

I don't think they understand how many doors, how many rejections, how many, how many, how many times people have counted you out? I saw it on Tick Tock. They were like, they talk about pretty privilege, but they don't talk about pretty punishment. There's been so many times I've just been counted out. And I know that it's behind animosity.

01:35:10

I know it's because of a hidden agenda, but it makes me work harder. But this has happened my whole life, so it's like. Like what I deal with in the industry is just different face and case. Oh, she sound like ish. What I've Been going through man this game.

01:35:29

Cause I had green eyes in a long time and I'm pretty. I'm answering. What do y' all think, man? Yeah, speak on it. He always look act surprised somebody would compare me to Saweetie.

01:35:42

No answer question. Yeah, you been sweet. You been sweet? Yeah, yeah. You yelling at stupid ass.

01:35:53

He not playing. What do you think about what you say? I think she probably has some validity there. I knew it.

01:36:01

Have you ever suffered pretty punishment? I don't think so. Come on, come on, come on. Sure you have. That's cool.

01:36:08

What? Cool that you think that all jokes aside, you know, motherfuckers be jealous of somebody that they think is attractive or that they think get privileges from whatever it may be. It don't gotta necessarily be pretty. But I'm sure some people hate them just cause they're attractive. Makes sense to me, Mark.

01:36:31

Cause I ain't about to say nothing. I feel good about this. I think. I think everything ish said is true. And I.

01:36:39

And it's not so much, however, it's also. I think it's less interesting to me. It's like, it's like. I'm sure there's some that happens to rich people just because they're rich. That's unfortunate.

01:36:47

I'm sure there's some that happens to seven footers and people with really big dicks or whatever. It's like everybody's got their plight. But I'm just saying, like, who cares? What do you think we have really big dicks? I don't know it.

01:37:00

What do you think? Let us know what happened. What do you think be happening to the. You okay? I know y' all don't know.

01:37:08

This is what I'm saying. This is what I'm saying. I'm saying that anything comes with a downside. But if the upside is so big, I hate to hear people complain about it. Compare pretty privileged to pretty.

01:37:18

Whatever the pretty punishment. Yeah. That's all I'm saying. It's like the jeans you wear don't point to package. DJ just ain't gonna diss us and keep it pushing.

01:37:29

That was my plan. That's what I.

01:37:36

Anyway, yeah. I'm just saying it's like, it's like, well, like light skinned people do the same thing, right? They say, you know, that sometimes they get treated poorly because they're light skinned. And I'm sure it's true, but it's like, I don't want to hear about tragic mulattos, you know, it's like, it's like it's all true. But, like, I don't care.

01:37:50

That's just my opinion. What'd you just say? That's your man. That's your man, Parks. Tragic.

01:37:56

What Tragic? Mulatto. You never heard of the tragic? It's like a little. A literary trope.

01:37:59

It's like a. Never mind. You know you're talking to. I know, I know. That's why I said, never mind.

01:38:03

It's fair. Once he gets the book club started, all about it.

01:38:10

I can't wait for the Joe Budden Book Club. Neither can I. What's the first book gonna be, Joe? How to Win an Argument. Oh, that's a good book.

01:38:17

That's a real book. No, it is. That's a good book. But Mehdi Hassan, he got me. Yeah, he got me.

01:38:23

I was watching an interview with his. I agree with some of the things he said. Are they gonna put me on? Why the book club, though?

01:38:36

I'm just curious. It's fire. Cause I was getting a haircut and my barber said, well, I said, I'm gonna buy this book. He said, buy me one. We should start a book club.

01:38:45

And it was awkward silence, just like that. That's all it takes. Cause my thing at this age is not committing to things that I know I'm not gonna do. One a month. You're gonna read one a month.

01:38:56

So I asked him, what is a book club? And he said, well, in short, it's a couple people got. Get a. Get a book, read the same book and get together and talk about it. And I said, oh, I can do that.

01:39:13

I can do that. So, like, if it was all of us, Corey would go first or Dimpo, then Parks. And everybody picks a book. One a month, or one. Whatever the frequency is.

01:39:22

And then you just read it and talk about it. Well, thank you for repeating exactly what. It's not what you said, goofball.

01:39:31

It's not what you said. Calm down. Get off me, man. Ish. You good?

01:39:38

It's. What happened, bro?

01:39:41

Ish. I'm fine. I'm chilling. Can we pound, baby?

01:39:48

This is that pretty punishment.

01:39:52

It's light skin. Yeah. Parks? Yes. Have you ever suffered pretty punishment?

01:40:00

Unfortunately not. And if I have the pretty privileged, I'll wait it so I just look past it.

01:40:10

When people are really attractive, it does make it difficult for the rest of the world to look them in the face and eyes.

01:40:19

What the are you talking about? You ever just look when the last time you looked at somebody that was gorgeous and just said, yo, I have not a clue what the fuck you're talking about right now? It's tough, right? It's really hard. I only started doing it in recent years.

01:40:39

Years.

01:40:44

Sweetie. Sweetie. I don't doubt that doors are being closed because you're beautiful. If I were betting, man, I would bet more doors have been opened because you're beautiful, which makes it tough. One, two.

01:41:03

Sweetie. Sweetie. Plenty of ugly people in music are failing. Like, it ain't just something that, like, artists sometimes have to deal with things as. As just an artist.

01:41:18

And I know sometimes we lean on our strong suit to say, all right. They may be using that to pick on me. Like, I feel weird even just continuing to talk about this. Honestly, I do. No, you don't.

01:41:31

I do. Cause I like Sweetie. Me too. And she should reserve. She has the right to feel however she wants to feel about her situation.

01:41:39

I heard plenty of people coming up talking about they was blackballed. It wasn't a black ball anywhere in their basketball court. Like, you could think what you want, so. But it's a talent thing. Then I would.

01:41:50

If I was Sweetie and her team, I would get together. There's a bunch of other things that could be. Before I would start attacking the pretty punishment aspect of. Is all I'm saying. I'm so pretty, I'm kicked out of entertainment.

01:42:00

Seems like a wild take. Yeah. I'm not saying she's saying that, but I'm saying that would be the logical extension of it. Yeah, I'm with y'. All.

01:42:07

I'm with y' all speaking. I mean, we. I don't want to be that guy because I love Sweetie. You're not that guy. Great.

01:42:13

You can never be that guy. Great. We did see your battle with the teleprompter.

01:42:20

Oh, that guy. You are. If you're being that guy. You are. Sometimes the fault's a little tricky.

01:42:26

I'm just saying. So it could be other things that they might say, hey, let's not call her. That's all I'm saying. It might not just be because you're beautiful. You know how we fix this?

01:42:35

Bigger book club. Oh. Huh. Times to the book club. And it costs a lot of money to get a girl rocking.

01:42:44

It costs a lot of money to get a girl up and going with momentum. I know somebody that looks like her. Yes. Do it cost more money with somebody that look like her or somebody that don't look like her?

01:42:58

I mean, I would say someone that looks like. Then she beat a. With a bat on bmf. I must. I must have missed that Episode, unfortunately.

01:43:10

Right.

01:43:13

She smacked the. With a bat, I think, on bmf. So she. Anyway, yo, it's cool. I'm sure she did really good at that.

01:43:21

Exactly. That's my point. Do you see what pretty privilege gets you? Like, we got a tippy toe around this because you're beautiful and don't want to say what it might really be. No, I'm tipped on because she's young and beautiful.

01:43:34

Okay? Like, she's a young. Young. You don't want to discover. You don't want to discourage anybody.

01:43:38

I don't want. I don't want to discourage her. I don't. She can get out there and do something. The girls had a run for however many years.

01:43:46

So if I were any woman rapping during that run that wasn't getting the light that I thought I should get, I would take it back to my team. Like, clearly, it's possible. It could happen. All these girls are doing it. In your mind.

01:43:57

It always goes back to the music. It's always to the. If you're a musician, before we get to the other million things it could be, you have to attack the music first. It has to be the music. Joe, in your mind as you being who you are, are you able to see the formula that she needs to go to the next level?

01:44:12

Hey, when you start turning to Tyron Gumball.

01:44:16

Oh, you like when your man do it though, right? Yeah, I do. Like, yeah, you assume me. Don't touch me. But no, repeat the question in your mind.

01:44:23

Do you. Do you know. Do you know the item? Do you know the formula that she needs in order to go to the next level? No.

01:44:30

You don't? No, I don't. I don't. But if I had to guess, it would start with the music. Starts the music.

01:44:38

Why are you looking all dumb in the face? I like when I had that last record.

01:44:43

I mean, she could go another way. She fine enough to be able to go another. But you can do it another way.

01:44:50

What are you talking about? Yo, dog, looking how you look, you don't have to be the best actress in the world. She gonna get parts. If her team is putting her in the right position, she gonna get roles and parts. Let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see.

01:45:04

Do y' all want to get into the Emmys? And homeboy from Severance. First black guy to win Supporting supporting actor. Yeah, let me get the round of applause. Come on, man.

01:45:16

Journalism. What's his name? There we go, There we go. His name is Tramell Tillman, and he is great. Congratulations to him.

01:45:25

That is all I know from the Emmys. One thing that was very funny about the Emmys is they did a counter down. Those who saw that, that was funny. The. The host.

01:45:36

Someone's going to be a journalist here. Nate. Damn, I love him. He's a comedian. He's a comedian.

01:45:42

He's very funny. Anyway, at the beginning, he said, I'm going to donate a hundred thousand dollars to the Boys and Girls Club of America if no one goes over their time. If you go over your time, we take off a thousand dollars for every second you go over your time. But if you go under your time, we'll put money back on. Okay.

01:45:57

Some people gave him a hard time about that. I thought it was pretty clever. I thought that was super funny. And he ended up. We kind of knew this was going to come because what happened was it was very much in the red.

01:46:07

He's like, actually, the boy girl club is gonna owe me somebody after this. He ended up donating, I think, $300,000 or something like that out of his pocket at the end of it all. But it was a funny trope throughout the awards. I found it to be. And of course, my favorite one I picked up on it was Hannah Einbender.

01:46:24

Sure. Yeah. You know, she said, you know, like, oh, I thought it was a clip. As she accepted award, she kind of acknowledged that she was going over and said, like, you know, I'll pay to. I'll pay to.

01:46:34

Oh, yeah, yeah. And then she screamed out. When I screamed out, she said, yeah, go, go, Eagles. Go Birds. Ice free Palestine.

01:46:41

Which that was great. Which is dope. So I appreciated the shout out. I always appreciate when people are courageous at award shows. And I thought it was funny.

01:46:47

So good for her. I don't know what y' all are laughing at. We going down.

01:46:56

Hey. Mark makes sure to get at least. Least one per episode in there. I love this guy. He itched to do it, too.

01:47:09

Like, double Dutch. There you go. I got a park. It was the biggest story for Davies. You be ready.

01:47:18

But you gotta see. I love that about you, though. You stick to your cause, but to the cause of. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So Molly's gone or leaving.

01:47:27

Wait, hold on, hold on. Oh, I'm sorry. The pit cleaned up. Molly. Yeah.

01:47:32

Adolescence cleaned up, which I love. I think that they could have probably snuck a couple jokers or penguins in there. I think penguin was a little bit underrepresented. All about penguin, yo. They were a little bit under Penguin was good as.

01:47:44

Penguin was fire. And it was great. But adolescence was also fantastic. Homeboy. That the dude from adolescence one, right?

01:47:52

The kid won the. The main dude. He was also. I think he was a producer and director, maybe writer even on the show that. That show.

01:47:59

I thought Penguin won a lot. Pause. They won a couple, but not maybe as many as some people would have. Like Colin shot. Okay.

01:48:05

Yo, Colin kicked ass. And Penguin fan and the. And the beer didn't win anything, right? No, I don't know if they did. 13 nominations.

01:48:13

The Seth Rogen show. The studio cleaned up. I haven't watched the episode yet. I'm gonna start because I guess it's good. Well, congratulations to all of the winners.

01:48:22

That's right. Kendrick got another one. That's the only thing I saw. And the people are nominated. Yeah.

01:48:27

And the people that were nominated. Can you got an Emmy set? Yeah, for the halftime super bowl performance. Super Bowl. The second one.

01:48:35

That's what we. That's what we had it. Right. They're gonna. They're gonna reward him till 2030.

01:48:39

Boy. Word. What a classic. Belt to ass. What a classic.

01:48:46

Ass whipping Emmy off the Chatel. It's an all timer. Yeah. No, they just gonna keep finding to get. Hey, not like us.

01:48:56

The Broadway play. The Broadway play.

01:49:01

Oh, my Lord. Okay. Mark. Molly. Molly Quirm.

01:49:06

Yeah. It's been announced that she will be leaving First Take and it sounds like the entire network ESPN of the calendar year. This says Molly has been an integral part of ESPN since 2006 and a key driver of First Take success since joining as host a decade ago. She elevated the show with her poise, skill and professionalism while supporting others as a kind and encouraging teammate. We respect Molly's decision, wish her the best in the future and thank her for her extraordinary daily commitment to sports fans and espn.

01:49:38

That comes from Burke Magnus, the president of content at espn. Politically correct way to do things. That's what I said. However, yes, we want the tea, right? And what we have from the tea is they offered her a contract, she declined it and we have not heard from her since.

01:50:00

I turned First Take on yesterday morning. There was no sign of her and Stephen a gave some sort of an address. Like to hear it? Here it goes. Let's hear it.

01:50:08

Not only Good morning and welcome to First Take. Normally our friend Molly Karen would greet you. However, Molly announced last night she will be departed from ESPN. She's hosted First Take for 10 years and elevated the show with her grace, her expertise, an uncomfortable kindness. She's been an enormous Part of our success for a decade.

01:50:31

Not only did she keep me and many others in line, she did it with dignity and class and kindness, to say the least. We'll miss her and wish her every blessing on her future. I personally am grateful to her for her friendship. And I will miss spending every weekday morning with her right by my side. Now, taking notes on that.

01:50:52

Now that's how that's done. What'd you say, Mark? Taking notes on that? I said, yeah. Am I taking notes on that?

01:50:57

If one of us were to depart to be able to write something like that? I thought this was very well said, if that's what you're asking. Stephen A does a great job with that man. No worries, you know, because a lot of times. Yeah, look, when you.

01:51:07

When you do that stunning thing, it gives you away that you on. I was not.

01:51:15

I just asked the question. Such a messy little bit, really. Now you hit you. He's awake now.

01:51:25

Would you do it like that if one of us get up out of here? I would do it with less class, but I like the way. Hey, Flip, you motherfucker. You've been a thorn in my ass.

01:51:39

But what do we think? I mean, I think they lowballed her. Yeah. I don't think she's happy about it. 19 years is a long time to be at a network in TV years.

01:51:49

That's. That's like. That's forever. Yes, forever. So sometimes that means she was getting coffee for 12 of those years.

01:51:58

No. Hey, when you do that, they try to do that, too. She was here since 06. She was in the donut shop. I mean, you know, even that is hard.

01:52:06

It's a lot. Because it's younger donut getters. You know what I mean? And in a business where you tend to age out, especially for women. But one of the bosses came.

01:52:14

Came in. Oh, my God. Moving on.

01:52:28

One of the bosses came in and loved donuts. No, that's not right. Stop. Molly is. Is an.

01:52:35

Except Molly is an exceptional journalist and did a great job on First Take. And again, she was there for a lifetime, which says a lot, because again, they will replace you. They will swap you out. Two years, five years. Particularly for women, a lot of times they get younger people.

01:52:48

They get. You know, because they use you as ornaments a lot of times. She was one of the few people, I think, that actually was able to leave a footprint on one of these shows where a lot of times it's two dudes arguing with each other and a woman is just there to kind of keep the Trains running on time. She actually was able to weigh in and we got more of her input than most people. And I think it's a testament to her talent.

01:53:06

So I'm excited to see what happens next for her. Her, you know, whether it's a podcast, whether it's a new network, whether it's her own thing somewhere else, I'm curious to know what it looks like, but I wish her nothing but the best. That's one thing I got to give Mark. She gonna always look good standing next to me. Boy, I ain't gonna lie.

01:53:24

Hey, whatever he say yes, let's go with that one. That was great. I wasn't thinking nothing like that.

01:53:35

You thought this was pretty punishment. Oh, pretty punishment. I like Molly, man. Molly was great, man. I'm talking shit.

01:53:43

But I really enjoyed her and I liked when she disagreed with some of the shit that Steven and them were saying. I liked when she would tell the producer, y' all, hold up a second. Like, she did a good job running that show. She did. So she did.

01:53:57

Do you. Do you think, Joe? Because again, if they made her a little more off after 19 years, the other piece to that, to me is that she. They do that to make you leave. They make you offer that you.

01:54:07

They know you won't take to make you leave. That's typically what they do at this stage in your career. Do you. Do you think people age out of network jobs? Do you think there's a moment where.

01:54:16

Or do you think depends on the network, particularly for sports? No. Okay, so you're okay. Because some people said that with Pam Oliver too. They've done it with James Brown where they're like, yo, we just tired of it.

01:54:26

We want somebody else. I think there's a resurgence of young female voices in sports, and I think that recently just started happening with the Taylor Rooks's and Malik Andrews. And that's. That's a recent thing. But typically I don't see those people see people age out of sports.

01:54:47

Yeah. Like Peter Vessey, Leslie. It's a bunch of people. Sports is still one of those places where the journalists. The journalists are thriving.

01:54:58

The people that have been writing for this newspaper for X amount of years. It's usually gender. It's usually like dudes can be old doing a job, but they often want younger women next to them. I also think that your sports knowledge is relevant, so you can replace me with a pretty face. But they can't necessarily sit with the fellas and talk sports jargon and all conversation.

01:55:17

That other shit Is valuable, bro. Like again, that's why me and you was having a Doris Burke take like Doris Burke sits there and talks about basketball like she's been around basketball for 40 years. She's the best. You can't just replace her with somebody young that can't necessarily speak about the game in a manner in which she does. So I don't think that that is.

01:55:37

ESPN's been shaking up for the last couple years now too. So I mean, it kind of falls in line with that to me. Yeah, that's true. It's tough with ESPN because there's only one competitor. Like if you lose a job at cnn, you can go to Ms. You can.

01:55:48

I mean there's like, you can name a list of people to go to if you lose a job at ESPN. That's so scary. FS1 is kind of the only other place to go which didn't leave you in a up bargaining position. I don't think that's true. Well, say more.

01:56:00

I mean, everybody has a sports leg. There's Fox Sports, there's CBS Sports Barstool. Okay. There's, there's other places you're not just stuck between FS1 college.

01:56:14

I was thinking like TV network, like network jobs and like, like CBS and ABC and all of them have sports wings. But that's like when they're like ESPN is 24 7. So there's a lot of jobs. FS1 is 24 7. A lot of jobs.

01:56:25

CBS Sports. You gotta be on a football show or now basketball show. And they don't usually have that many openings for hosts. You know what I mean? You're right.

01:56:32

I mean those jobs do exist. It's just, it's just such a small. But if they're fucking everybody up there, then why would you want there to be. Why would, why would you want to go through the same, the same TV network hassle? Right.

01:56:44

Like. And by now we've seen ESPN fire you for everything. Yeah. For your political opinion, for your non political opinion, for. I'm not gonna go through their whole slew because they've lost a lot of people and sadly we haven't heard from many of them after that.

01:56:59

And that's the point he's making. That's the fear. That's the point he's making. I can go to these other places. But today there's fucking today.

01:57:06

Even while you work in your network job. And again, hate to sound like a broken record, but you also have to go home and do your side job. Yeah. Like many of these Sports expert people, they go home and do their show. But if yes, there's two former Sports center anchors from LA Sports Center LA who left ESPN and then they got together and started their own shit.

01:57:31

Doing it on Twitch and it was like, it's it. You talking about my man? I love him. I forget his name right now. Neil.

01:57:39

Neil and Stan. You can do that. But if you've been. And this is the problem with when you worked in corporate and you got a check, that is what they are accustomed to. So I'm sure Molly was making seven figures at ESPN getting a check under that specific structure for the last 20 years.

01:58:01

It's not so easy for somebody to just up and go and start a podcast or start doing these other things. Like that's just something that may not be in a wheelhouse. Now. Desperation or circumstance will make you do those things, but that's just not something that they could just go to another network. Like Marcus said, if you accustomed to being an accountant and you worked at wherever you get fired, guess what you gonna do?

01:58:24

Jump back and look to go get another accountant job. When you work in specific fields like ESPN FS1, there's not that many takers. So when they know you just got fired From ESPN Now FS1 could lowball you and say you won't work. Although we are seeing expansion. Like even we saw Max this weekend on the fight at Netflix.

01:58:42

So there's places like he's always done that. Yeah, I know for sure. But it's been a while since he's been there and again, there's a new place for him to do this. And also to reply to you, whoever said it would be easy, that too. Who cares that it's not easy?

01:58:58

And I think if you're looking at the economy as an American, there should be very few Americans that are just comfortable and feel okay with getting a check. Actually, we should be at an all time high on alerts on just getting our check. That's that Dame Dash talk. That's not what I'm trying to do. I'm not trying, I'm not trying to say that.

01:59:21

What I'm saying is there's too many businesses going under. Nobody knows the state of their employer is up out there. If you just get the check and you comfortable. Well, to the people that may have not understood, if you're getting a check and you comfortable, then your brain is in the wrong place. Everybody should be thinking about what they're doing with the check that they're getting and how long that check is gonna last.

01:59:45

That's real. That's where everybody's brain should be. I don't think it's a bad message to tell anybody to. Especially if you're talking about the volume and what he's doing. He signed the new deal with Hard Rock or somebody.

01:59:56

If you're just watching what people. People are doing. Yeah. You should be building your own no matter what field you in. Like I'm not even just talking to content people.

02:00:06

When I went to NBC to do whatever NBC I was doing up there for some show, I remember having a good talk. Jay Will, that's what I was about to. Not God of War. That wasn't NBC. That was somewhere else.

02:00:19

Y' all are jerks. But I remember Jay Will was up there auditioning too and. And me and him talking, talked. I've had this talk with so many people. J Will, what's my man Roy?

02:00:29

Is it Roy? Not Roy Wood. Roy. Roy. Roy something.

02:00:32

Wherewith junior I love so many people I've just seen and they big me up because of what I'm doing. But then they get into the play to what they've been doing working for networks for 10, 15, 20, 25 years and then one day that could just go, go. Yeah. And that's not comfortable to me. Yeah.

02:00:50

I mean if you really want to know what the driving force is behind my work ethic, it's just somebody taking shit away. Right? Same. That don't feel good. They don't feel good at all.

02:01:01

This is nerve wracking. If you've been there enough, you never want it to happen to you again. So I forgot who we. Who how we started this talk. Oh, Molly.

02:01:10

I hope, I hope Molly does well wherever she goes. I'm pretty sure she will. She's a pro, you know, and with all of the different. She has a lot of support avenues now like streaming and with the games. Because now it ain't just espn, right?

02:01:22

It's everywhere. You get fucking Amazon and everybody and their mother got one of the games somewhere or another. So it's a little bit. The doors kind of open a little bit more. Opportunity for sure.

02:01:33

So hopefully, Molly, I wish you nothing but the best. And if you come out with a tell all book, this is what's happening behind the scenes at espn. I will certainly add it to the book club. That'd be the second book. You know they got them NDAs over there though.

02:01:47

The NDs be hard at ESPN. Yeah, yeah. No, it's true. Yeah, it's true. Marcellus Wiley don't Seem to care.

02:01:54

He just keeps shit. All right. What else needs our attention? Did any of y' all catch the battle over the weekend? I did, actually.

02:02:01

Thank God. Hitman. Yeah, Mo cleaned him up. Yes, yes, yes. It was a good battle, though.

02:02:09

But he could. Yes, yeah. Lysol, Febreze, all of it. It was a good battle. I didn't like.

02:02:20

It was weird seeing Hitman go the expose route. Yeah. Mudslinging. That was weird for me because I don't. I don't.

02:02:27

I've never pictured him as one of the battlers that need to do that, but he spent an entire round, the third round at that, and teased it in the first couple rounds. I mean, posted on Instagram mid round. Yeah, it was just a lot. It was a lot. It didn't.

02:02:45

It didn't. It didn't hit like he expected it to hit. For me, that. That lost in the battle to me, I mean, I see everybody running around talking about MOOC 30 them. For me, that angle, saying those things, saying what he said about mooc, posting what he posted on Instagram, as if that was proof of what was being said.

02:03:06

It's like you saying too much wild shit for niggas to not have vetted. Like. Yeah. And to do this in the name of a battle, like. And I know that that's what battle rappers do, but all of them.

02:03:20

That was disgusting. That was nasty. A little bit that. That was. Unless it's all true now.

02:03:25

If it's all true, then I come back, I have a whole different opinion. But I don't know that, and I don't know that about Mook, so I didn't like it. I also don't think he was winning the battle just from a rapping standpoint. Yeah, I think he had a better shot. He had a better shot.

02:03:39

If I was caught. How I was calling it. I didn't love either of their first verses. I thought that they both had highs and lows in the first, so I thought that that was a wash. See, I gave Mook the first. I did, too.

02:03:51

A lot of people gave Mook the first. I thought it was a wash. Okay. In the second verse, Hitman did some of the better rapping I've ever heard him do. Yes, he did.

02:04:01

It sound like he was really focused on. He was doing schemes. Almost like Chilla Jones, that whole alcohol smearing off reposado, that whole he was doing. Yep. I've never heard him do that.

02:04:18

Really great rapping from him in. In the second, but I felt like you just fell for Moocs trap now, like you rapping in a way I never heard you before says that not only do you have the utmost respect for Mooc, but I feel like Mook was setting him up with that even before the battle. Even during the battle when he was teasing his style and saying this simple bullshit y' all keep liking. So I thought that was a point for Mook. And then Mook's second verse was dope.

02:04:43

And then the third. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The third. Mook was dope, man. Mook's projection, the simplicity yet difficulty of the bars that move does.

02:04:57

I love that Sellers to the addicts line. That was crazy. Yeah, yeah. His performance Elevator Line too was fire the elevator line. I didn't get to three days later.

02:05:08

Like, I like that. I like that. L Evader. I see what you did. Elevator.

02:05:14

I see what you did again. Overall, really good performance by Mook.

02:05:20

One of my favorite battles of the night were was calico versus Rumnitty. Rumnitty, who I have is probably 1A or 1B or 1C in terms of best battle rappers right now. Twerk, twerk is there for me too. A prepared twerk along with Luck, Slash, Mooc and the Legends. But that battle was really good.

02:05:42

Calico showed his ass. Calico shows up against really big names. He does. When it's a name that you think he just don't have a shot against, he show up like a legend. I think I watched his last four joints.

02:05:56

He showed up three or four. Like, he don't. He ain't been playing lately. Yeah. This battle was more of the same.

02:06:03

He was. He was real talking rum Nitty down and Nitty had a bunch of fire. He was fired. He was fired. His Liam Neeson.

02:06:13

Damn. When I watch his battles, I need to start timestamping. Yeah. Cause chilling. Yeah.

02:06:20

Yeah. That was crazy. That was crazy. So that was one of my favorite battles, but I guess the talk of the night was official. Punching Coffee Brown in the face during their battle.

02:06:32

That was the talk of the night. Unfortunate. It is unfortunate at such a good event. But so we got to talk about it. So apparently officials said something about Coffee Brown's dead baby father, which they said that he's not dead.

02:06:49

I watched Coffee Brown's interview this morning, and she said her baby father is dead. Okay. I don't know enough about any of these people to know what's true or not, but I watched Coffee Brown say that my baby father is indeed dead, deceased. Okay. Yeah.

02:07:05

So the rumor out there is that Coffee Brown baby father is not dead. That he just chose a different lifestyle. And she's saying that he's dead. That's the room in Battle Rap. Okay, okay, good.

02:07:18

Okay, maybe. But officials said something about Coffee Browns. Let's say baby dad. We don't know if he's alive or not. He need a doc.

02:07:28

So Coffee Brown rebuttals it with a line about officials. Dead motherfucker. Tell your dead motherfucker. Yeah, official. Then two pieces.

02:07:40

Coffee Brown in the face. Boop, boop. Then they go to break it up. I watched Coffee Brown's response video. She handled this very, very well.

02:07:48

She did. She. She addressed getting punched. She said that we were cool. We're fly.

02:07:53

We've been talking all battle. They gave each other boundaries. Hey, I'm not going to do this. So she was surprised when official.

02:08:03

Yeah. So she was surprised when officials said what she said and surprised at the reaction she gave her off the line. Like we in battle Rap. Her words. My baby father is dead.

02:08:12

You opened that door. So when I respond with a relative of yours who's dead. It shouldn't be. It shouldn't be. She's right.

02:08:19

Yeah, that. That's what she said. She's right. I think if a baby father's dead or alive, I'm not with battlers attacking the person they battle. Yeah.

02:08:29

I've never been a fan of that. Not from Math. Not nobody is. I'm not from my man. Or you mad?

02:08:36

Cause I'm styling back in days. Yeah. I'm not. I'm not a fan of that. If you standing up there, if you got in this ring, be prepared to hear.

02:08:44

And they said, official done battled arse. We're gonna get to in a second. Like, she done battle. That unset everything in the world. So don't go punching on this girl.

02:08:56

I thought it was whack. I thought it puts a negative light on otherwise. A really great event. And there's another great event coming. Like, oh, oh, I ain't finished with that event.

02:09:04

I'm shouting out arse three old Jazz. I' ma keep it a buck. I could say it now. I didn't know how that battle was gonna go. Cause Jazz been on a tear.

02:09:16

And I would never publicly say nothing against my brother. I would just shut up, of course. But when I saw that and he thirtied her, I'm very, very happy now, now. So salute ours. Yes.

02:09:28

Yeah. Shout out to arse though, Jersey. I'm glad they put the fight up or the. The battle up on YouTube immediately. Go ahead.

02:09:36

I'm glad they put the battle up on YouTube immediately, Mook. Yeah. Yeah. This whole hiding it behind for a month, like, by the time the average casual gets it, it's no longer a talking point. Yeah.

02:09:49

I get both sides of that, though. I do do business. I think you got to do trying to make my money. Yeah. Paywall, everybody.

02:09:56

People talking about it and oh, let me go watch it. Let me go get it and watch it. I'm trying to get my bread. That's super awesome. If you make it easy for people to go and get it.

02:10:05

Which has not been the case in all of these battle rap. Yeah, that's true. They move it from app to app. The app doesn't work good. It's crashing, it's lagging.

02:10:11

That's true. No, give something, especially something the main card, at least something to the people. I'm still thinking about this punching in the face thing, and I. I know how you feel about words versus, like, physical stuff. You're like, no word should all ever make you do that. But I'm thinking about the rest of y'.

02:10:26

All. Like, are there any. Is there anything in battle rap? What is it for you that you would feel comfortable afterwards standing on saying, I'm glad I did. We all might get mad in the moment, do something we regret, but what's the thing where you would not feel regretful about it later?

02:10:39

That could be said in the battle rap? In a battle rap. In a battle rap. Some of that our. Hey, fair.

02:10:44

I've been to some of my brother's battles. Yeah. Some of that our. And been sitting there like, yeah, I don't know how y' all do this. Like, I'm dead ass.

02:10:51

Like, I. I agree. Even some of the people battling against him, they saying about his mom. Hey, that's my mom. I'm here. Like, how you think about like that?

02:10:59

Yeah, yeah. We were like, no. Or his daughter. That's my niece. Like, I. I stay away from that, bro.

02:11:05

Yeah. You know they used to weed. Yeah, they did that.

02:11:13

They knew you was in the building before they did all this. That's cool. They knew where you were seated at, Right? You're absolutely right. They didn't expect no smoke.

02:11:19

None. That's the best one. I think you sign up for that, though. I think the culture, you know, battle rap, you sign up, you know, it's just words, man. And a lot of times there's some understanding behind the scenes.

02:11:30

I've seen battle rappers have an understanding, and I also seen battle rappers draw the line. You know what I mean back then. So I felt like you signed up for that. When you go on stage, you liable to say anything. Like the whole Austin and Mook thing at that time, I told Austin.

02:11:45

You didn't have to say that. You didn't have to say. I watched that one and that's the one. I think the second round got real nasty. The second round I got last.

02:11:50

The last third round, that's what it was. And I was like, I didn't like it. It made me feel like it was a L versus a W. Because he did so well. He was doing well rapping. You didn't have to go that direction.

02:11:59

I mean, I told him that, but he said I knew what they were signing up for and you know, Mr. Disrespectful. So I'm saying you sign up for those. Battle rap is probably one of the only places where I'm totally fine with blackballing too. What do you mean? Anybody that do that.

02:12:11

If you come to my event, we don't worked our asses off to get this event off. You battle rappers be late wanting your money. Y' all forget your verses? Yeah, want your money. Punch somebody in the face.

02:12:24

Now I got lawsuits. The venues I can't even do. My insurance is high as every time I get my money up the out of one of you. How do you feel about and your crew? I'd have been made that a rule in battle rapping.

02:12:37

Hey, your crew could stay home. I need the person that can rap. All that antics behind the sound, I'm done. How do you feel about the talented battle rappers when the snitching allegations come out about them that's no longer getting booked. How does that make you feel?

02:12:49

I really don't. I understand it, but because I don't think. I don't think I'm close enough to the culture to know who's snitching and who's. No, I'm just saying. But I know Surf never snitched.

02:12:59

He just go do his time and come home. Yeah, Surf never said. But that's my only concern. There's some people with paperwork came out. AI boom, boom, boom.

02:13:06

Crazy. Extremely talented. He was extremely talented. He never got booked again. Yeah, good.

02:13:12

I'm not. Wait, hold on. So wait. It's kind of a contradiction. I read the paperwork on him that look nuts.

02:13:21

Me too. I understand what you're saying. And his broadcast is too big to have an Audi boom segment. Okay, so what's your question? The point I was trying to make is that we can't Say that we don't care about snitches in the hip hop culture.

02:13:33

And then when it comes to that battle rap is a part of the hip hop culture. And then when somebody's snitching to some paperwork, we saying that it's good for them that they can't work no more, they can't work anymore. If that's the case, it should apply to Gunna and anybody else that's been allegedly with snitching allegations been on was said about them. Okay, maybe when I was talking about homeboy, I wasn't really talking about the snitch part. I was talking about what they.

02:13:56

They allege him to have done. Oh, okay, I'm sorry, you lost me. Yeah, snitching stuff, I don't. That's not my Gotcha. Okay.

02:14:02

I don't know. I got it. Not my. Not my place, not my business. I obey the law.

02:14:06

I come here, talk about people and go in the house where you can't find me. That's what I do. Okay, My fault. I'm not a nurse. I didn't understand the Kratos thing.

02:14:15

Can you break that down for me, Mark? I don't know who Kratos is. I've never. Where did that come from? I've never heard of Kratos.

02:14:22

He said that he had. He was auditioning. I never said that. That's because they said you said it when the did he it for God of War. I hated it.

02:14:30

Why didn't you audition? I think you could do it. Here comes Sparks. You would make a good Kratos. Well, y' all don't remember the episode.

02:14:36

I might not have been here, cuz I don't we all here. He said I auditioned for God of War one time. He was on my voice. I didn't even know there was a God of War. That's one of the best game franchises.

02:14:46

But you remember hearing him be clear. Yes, God of War. Somebody's lying. The fans will find out. Yeah, send me the.

02:14:51

I've only ever auditioned for that role in. In the Daredevil that I always talk about. I remember that we were talking about video game Def Jam. It's not important.

02:15:02

It was one line. It was one line in the jail where I was supposed to be the. I was supposed to say something slick to Daredevil while I was spotting him or while I was on the weight bench. And then he get up and kill the guy. Throw a card or some stupid at you?

02:15:18

No, he killed the guy in the scene. And the first Season by throwing. Yeah, you killed the out of him. But Kratos, I don't know who that is. I don't know.

02:15:26

God of War. Got it. Excellent video game. Had my name for at least a week. It's been hilarious too.

02:15:32

Yeah, and it's been hilarious funny. Yeah, it looked like Thanos of the video games. But all of those audio clips of mine that they pairing with these videos when you was walking, talking like I've been a nut for a long time is all it says. Like they shouldn't have that much audio of me being a nut.

02:15:54

No, I think. I think that would be flat though personally, if I was Kratos. Hell yeah. Yeah, that's what I seen Ian tweeting. Yo, I should make the call.

02:16:02

Can I. Should I do it? Ian, such a groupy clout chaser trying to jump in. She should be Kratos. It would be dope.

02:16:10

He be trying to get me to do mad and. But Kratos ain't chump though. That's what I'm saying. That role like he's him In. In.

02:16:18

In to Sony's line. He's. He's him. God of War is one of those. Is a top tier video game series for the PlayStation.

02:16:28

So yeah, being attached to that is. Is lit. Thank you. I know he don't give a. He said thank you like you actually work Kratos.

02:16:37

There's no yo, because I'm not Kratos. Now you're Kratos. Yeah, now you Kratos. Now I'm not Kratos, but I would be Kratos. I'd be him.

02:16:45

It worked. Anyway, shout out to you people that are having a good time with this Kratos stuff on online. Whatever. Next time shut up.

02:16:53

What else? What else is important, unimportant. What else needs our full attention? I. I need your conspiracy meter. Hey.

02:16:59

Yes. It's not a good story. It's a sad story. But I still want you conspiracy. No, because Delta State University, y' all heard about this guy?

02:17:05

Of course. His name is is Demartravian or also known as Trey Reed. 21 years old, found hanging from a tree in Mississippi. Okay. The university announced and the police announced that there's no foul play.

02:17:19

The Mississippi police? Yeah. Like on a scale of 1 to 10, what is your meter register when you hear 1220 out the gate. Are we talking about black man found hanging from tree, Mississippi. No foul play.

02:17:35

This. The implication is that it was. That it was self inflicted. Yeah, exactly. What I mean, you only got two options, right?

02:17:44

It ain't no big investigation to see the self inflicted or they inflicted. Yeah. Is there anything that the Mississippi police could ever say that y' all would believe? No, no, sorry. That's what I'm trying to get.

02:17:56

It's not so it's nothing about this particular. The police said it. So y' all don't believe I'm coming comfortable with that. If you tell me Mississippi, Alabama police hanging. Hanging black man.

02:18:06

And police said I'm probably not going to roll. Yeah, I'm not rolling. I'm sorry. I can't be objective. It could be that.

02:18:12

It could be everything objective in this. Sorry, I'm with you there been. Can't do it. It was seemed like open and shut. And then in.

02:18:19

In the time that we've been sitting here, some new details have come out. Not new details, new. There are some prominent voices in Mississippi that are saying he did not kill himself. I don't know what's true and what's not, but people are at least starting to push back because everybody kind of had the same response y' all had, which is if Mississippi believes it, I don't. If Mississippi says it, I don't believe it.

02:18:38

Is there a way to do like a independent autopsy or whatever? Yeah, they will. But you in Mississippi gotcha. Right. So if they find skin up under his fingernails, they ain't find that on their face.

02:18:50

Right. Because the problem is the person does the independent thing. Might they can hit you with a little pedicure manicure real quick. Quick, yeah. Like who the knows I've been all time depressed before and the last thing I thought about was doing it on a tree.

02:19:03

Yeah, the trees a lot. The tree just sounds weird. It sounds weird. Yeah. Hang yourself from the closet.

02:19:11

Jail cells. Obviously you know those things that happen because you don't have a choice, but a tree's a lot. That was a hard sell to me. I'm not dark. Question for you guys while we're on the topic.

02:19:21

Sorry. All right, we here. Would y' all be able to do that in your home with your family and wife around like Robin Williams? No, no, I'm not doing it period. At all.

02:19:33

I'm playing, I'm furthering. I'm further playing. If I. If I were. No, I'd like to.

02:19:42

There are people. First of all, the mindset you have to be in to get there sometimes means like we don't have that much control over. I think Robin Williams is an example of that. But sometimes when people commit suicide, it is to get back at people they want somebody to find them. They want somebody to feel guilty for it.

02:19:58

And so if you're. If you're in that headspace, you might want to be in the kitchen. That's pretty interesting. Yeah. You know, unfortunately, that's a dark part of it.

02:20:07

And when I have had those thoughts, and it's been rare, sometimes the thought I have is about how I want people to feel after it happened and the responsibility I want them to feel for the choice. I made a no. These are the books I need you to read to find out why.

02:20:35

Hey, that was low. That was low. That gets a whole new me reading to the book club. Exactly. We gotta find out why Mark did it.

02:20:44

Oh, yo, Our thoughts and prayers to anybody out there fighting a silent battle. Yes. And rested. What's. What's the name of the gentleman?

02:20:53

Rest in peace. To Trey. Yeah. Rest in peace. And I hope we find freshman in college, bro.

02:21:00

Yeah, indeed. How about a little. I got you. Yeah, we can come right out. Outstanding.

02:21:09

With J.D. vance doing. That's a joke. Yeah. Please, please don't.

02:21:18

It's a joke. Okay, here we go. Hey, you sick over there? We got a lot of people at work. Sick.

02:21:31

You sick. Your whole face red. Your face red. Your whole face is red. Pink nose cuda.

02:21:35

A lot of people at work under the weather. Boy, I like that commitment to the gig, though. Just coming here and get everybody. You said don't come to work. Take it home to your family, your kids.

02:21:48

Now you like the commitment.

02:21:52

I'm moody, though. I'm moody. Oh, you lying, man. I'm moody. You admit you're lying.

02:21:58

I am not. You. You think you moody. No Sips Te. You're such a sips Te.

02:22:11

Hey, wait a. Wait a. Wait a minute. Talk to him.

02:22:16

Hey, need the baby face version of this on my mind.

02:22:29

I say.

02:22:36

Oh, go ahead. Forgive me if you already said this. I see the ham on the. On the mug. Are those available for sale now?

02:22:41

Let me see. Can I see it? Wa. Look at the. Oh.

02:22:45

Ish.

02:22:50

Is. You see little TM next to it? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Copyright™ oh, no, no. He got it.

02:22:56

Ho. Wham. Ho. Wham. He been sipping it, but he had the whole wham.

02:23:00

Facing him. And I'm like. I didn't understand the. The move. It's when you did that game, that boy good.

02:23:07

You move fast like me, boy. Hey, yo, get away from me, yo. Go ahead. What's wrong? He makes a phrase, has printed on a mug, and then put it on tv.

02:23:20

I didn't put nothing. On tv. Well, is the mug available? So you just made it for yourself? Just for personal enjoyment?

02:23:26

Okay, got it. So you don't forget your phrase. Why would you put web on the. I thought it was a for sale. I was trying to.

02:23:32

It's not for sale. Ish. Sell. I'm going. You know what?

02:23:36

I know how to fix that. Hey, can somebody hand us the tools to help pull teeth? Hey, can somebody go and check the junk drawer or something? God damn it, man. What are you talking about?

02:23:49

We. They trying to talk. Look at Mark. So they're trying to talk to you about the thought process behind your Hawaiian mug. Somebody made the mug for me that does some of my merch, and they gave it to me.

02:24:01

That's nice. Okay. I thought you were selling. I was trying to get you to do the promo. I appreciate it.

02:24:05

My. Yeah. Is that the logo you'll keep now, was it a dude dude? It was Simon. Was he always a dude?

02:24:13

Oh, boy. Gotta ask all the questions. They popping out now, yo. They popping out. Popping out of what?

02:24:22

Popping out with what? They popping out and talking now, yo. What the is wrong with you? Oh, we. We happy for you.

02:24:29

Ish. I would like to purchase one. I would definitely have a today. Oh, give it a T shirt, mug, whatever. And shout out to Imani also.

02:24:34

I know he'll talk about it probably on Patreon, but his Patreon is officially announced. I said subscribe money. Yes. Let's go. I tried to repost it.

02:24:43

I mean, tried. Yeah, he said he could. It wouldn't allow me to repost it, cuz he ain't tagged me some. Something like that, right? Yeah, you could just screenshot post it.

02:24:52

You got a hold of. But screenshot the little paper plate. All I want to do.

02:25:01

Oh, and the part in this episode with Parks the interview park, which is. I like that, yo. I'm real excited. We outside.

02:25:10

I support. Go ahead, bro. You're making 17 faces. Good. What's your name?

02:25:16

What's the name? Well, lies on E. Krillos. Oh, Kratos. Kratos. I don't have anything to say.

02:25:24

Okay. I support all the endeavors of each and every one of y'. All. And hopefully you guys out there do too. Jesus.

02:25:33

Pulling teeth again.

02:25:37

Pulling those flyers. Pull. Pulling veneers. Got it, dog. It's cool.

02:25:43

That was funny, that joke. That E Picture got this. I'm proud of EO and they got his waves for the picture. How many times you took that picture, boy? You got your waves back.

02:25:56

That for the month? Yeah. You're like, dang. Oh, 92nd hand. That's our man.

02:26:05

Watch your mouth. Wait, what? He been turned up. He deserved that. I didn't say he deserve a 3 minute ad.

02:26:11

Amani. I got a DM from Keith Sweat that started with tell your man Amani. Yes.

02:26:20

He's telling me. Oh, there you have it. Oh, and what it's going to be beef. Yep, yep. I want that baby.

02:26:33

All right, that's it. Your word, your word, your bond there. All right, handle it when you see him, then. Do it that. Do it that way.

02:26:42

I try to. Don't call me later, ask me to squash it. I try to keep you from sweating them woody hands ain't going to do it that lazy. L. What? Hey, we care about what your response was to him when he said, tell your baby.

02:27:01

You responded back and said sergeant was on. Come on. Y' all know you responded back and said what? You held your man down, right? Come on, man, stop.

02:27:08

You hold your man down, right? You know how long I known Amani. You know. You know how I was riding for? How long you been a fan of Keith Sweat?

02:27:18

I did want Keith Sweat to sing in my wedding.

02:27:22

Imani told me he wouldn't sing at my funeral, but want to sing Happy Birthday in the backseat when Vern had. No. You know what? You did do that. Yo, what else needs our attention, man?

02:27:33

What else is important, unimportant? What else needs all of our. Come on, come on, come on. Did y' all see Kirk Franklin son with the. With the video uploads yesterday?

02:27:43

Go ahead, Mark. I did see it. It's really sad. It's really unfortunate what happened. What's sad and unfortunate that he and his first.

02:27:53

First of all, he and the family are just going at it right now still. They, you know, years ago, he leaked audio of his father berating him. Yeah, I remember. And people were kind of. I won't.

02:28:05

Some people were defending Kirk Franklin. You know what I mean? Saying, like, maybe you shouldn't talk to your kid that way. But was it like the football talk we had on Patreon the other day? It's.

02:28:13

No. Cause here's why it's not. Because on. On Monday, September 15, he posted graphic footage. Okay.

02:28:22

That it went beyond the talking. Oh, and he wrote, according to him. Yes. I'm just saying he posted footage. I don't know what it's.

02:28:29

You're right. It's alleged. He's alleged that it's his parents who did it. He said, these scars all over my back are not sex stories. It breaks my heart all over again when people ask because I wish that was the case.

02:28:43

Pain is the only feeling that's familiar for me but whatevs. And for the record, these scars are symbols they really signs of many secrets that I keep bottled up since I was a baby Being beat black and blue since first grade I walk with war and betrayal in my posture so fuck around and find out who's with the shits forever. I'm gonna start vetting Mark stories. Mark. Always want to read some.

02:29:08

I'd have never said Don Quavius Kirkland's name. Is that his name? Carry on. Carry on. You just made a stereotypical church Southern name.

02:29:17

Carry on. Carrying on. Keep carrying on. I'm on Kirk's side in this. What say you?

02:29:24

I agree with everything you said. I'm not playing. You're not getting me. What do y' all say? I don't.

02:29:32

That ain't enough. Yeah, you said y' all ain't getting me. What do y' all say? That's it. You know I meant him.

02:29:38

He's trying to rope me in the. That ain't enough to make me have an opinion against that. Like that's not enough. Like you. You didn't say your parents did nothing.

02:29:45

You just posted saying you ain't. And I don't like how you started that. You ain't make stump get out of here if you that serious. I don't like how you sound like his dad did. He might.

02:29:54

I want the stump to have stop some might have got. Got stumped. Bring authenticity out in the music. No, that's not right. He another dude that needs.

02:30:04

That needs. Needs our love and. And prayer. That's true. He needs love and prayer.

02:30:09

Sounds that way. I just want them to deal with this privately to put us in. They. They. We always get included in the group chats which then force us to make choices.

02:30:15

Cuz like. No. No, it don't for me. You know what it is. Wait, go ahead.

02:30:18

It don't though. It don't. We could look at this and just go, I don't look at nothing from Kirk Frank. No, but I'm saying if it poppins the to pop up on your feed or whatever, but also be disciplined enough to read the first four words of a sentence and know when to turn away. Yeah, yeah.

02:30:39

I just said I don't like how it started. Kirk Frank. Before I get to Lynn. I'm out of there, buddy. Frank.

02:30:45

No. When it said these are not sex. These are not sex scars. That's what kept Me reading. Although I wish they were.

02:30:49

See, that's what kept me reading. I didn't know where that. That work that worked on you. Nobody got judged by a tie. What you talking about?

02:30:56

I mean, if you see the images. You understand what I mean? It was pretty wild. It was sort of compelling. The fact that he's a gospel singer doesn't change anything for y'.

02:31:03

All, like in terms of your expectations or the discipline. I don't know that, man. I don't have no expectations. Public television said I would throw. I would go far out and throw my porn away.

02:31:15

And at 3 o' clock in the morning, I would leave the house with slippers on and night clothes and climb in a dumpster in a garbage can to get my porn out. Three in the morning. Well, have you ever thrown your porn away? The good porn too, yo, the good. No, but look.

02:31:31

And I didn't drive miles and climb dog into a dumpster with my footies on. Where the Mises is at. And get the porn out. I. I would just log on the Internet. You got spend that money.

02:31:46

Are we talking about. Yeah, I. I'm not rolling where. Okay. Kirk is the bro. Yeah, he's had a hell of a journey.

02:31:54

You know, he just found his biological father two years ago, so I. I get. He's at his own. So, you know, I wish him healing prayer. Those scars look like too far. Yeah, it's very much.

02:32:09

Sorry. Did you see your guy? Jackson Darton, James Winston having a time with me. Oh, look at Park. That's racist.

02:32:16

You can't do that. Hey, write down my little blunder, buddy. We can't just go to Jackson Dart from there. I missed it. Oh, also on the.

02:32:26

Before we get to Jackson Dart and Russell Wilson. Great game. Good win. Cowboys. Go, y'.

02:32:30

All. We were talking about where the economy is. I read something that says, and I quote, dating apps come to an end. Huh? Never.

02:32:42

Tinder, Hinge and OK Cupid are all crashing together. Match group is down 63% in five years. Do you remember when dating apps felt unstoppable? Tinder was everywhere. Hinge was designed to be deleted.

02:33:00

Investors thought they were betting on the future of love. Match Group was worth over $40 billion. Damn. Now just $9 billion. Just it a measly 9 bill, right?

02:33:14

Yo, pretty punishment. Word. We have 40 billion. Yeah, it ain't just. Sorry.

02:33:24

People are burnt out from swiping, complaining about fake profiles and pricey subscriptions. And Wall street is finally swiping left too. That's what I read from some Called who cares. I'm not crediting you.

02:33:38

What do you guys think of that? Do y' all care at all about that? No. Right? As men in relationships.

02:33:43

My little young said that hinge be on fire. Oh, well, there you have it. This little young kudoso sound a little crazy. Kuda said that. Crazy.

02:33:55

I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised. What? So where they find it? They also.

02:33:59

There was also something a few months ago that said from ages 18 to 33 or 34. Don't quote me. Look it up yourself. They say men are having a lot less sex.

02:34:14

They also say drinking is down. They say a lot of shit is going on. Money up. Okay. But if somebody says drinking is down, everybody's gonna do a round of applause.

02:34:21

If somebody come in and say all the men from 18 to 32 ain't. Ain't no more. But if I. But if you say, oh, oh, I'm slow. Yeah.

02:34:33

Yeah. Oh, y' all are horrible. Well. Or just logical. I was also 21 once.

02:34:38

You know what I was doing for a little while? Getting lit. This goes into our ice spice and lotto streamer conversation. Seriously. It does a little bit.

02:34:50

It does. In the legal marijuana. What can we do? Yeah, what can we do? What can we do or say to this demo that we're talking about to help them have sex again?

02:34:59

Go outside and talk. Go talk to women. No get money. That's a shame, fam. Go get.

02:35:07

Go talk. Go talk to women. Because was without money. Yeah. Now money makes it easier.

02:35:12

Yes. Oh, it's different today, boy. No, it's different to shoot at village them. They could still. It's these red pill manosphere pages leading down the wrong goddamn paths.

02:35:24

That's it. Go be nice to them. Right? And they'll probably give you some vagina, man. These pretty ass anime girls and all them gamer girls be bad.

02:35:38

He's talking about the ones that play them girls.

02:35:44

I'm saying. So the streamer. I thought you were into cartoon board. What kind of is you always do pretty ass anime girls. You see they feet click play on those videos.

02:35:53

You so stupid. No. So the streamer dudes be in the same rooms with the gamer chicks and all that other. So I think culture has changed. I just think the younger girls be with the older now.

02:36:05

So the older dudes be kind of at a deficit, bro. Ain't that always been the case though? Yeah, I think it's always been a game like that when we were. And again you talking about like I'm just saying a Regular old chick. Not.

02:36:18

Not this gorgeous who's shooting for the stars. Just a regular girl. Go talk to her. These do not know how to talk to women. I think social media has ruined people's interactions with it.

02:36:28

I agree with that. Yes, I agree. Like, they don't know how to talk to people. You want to abbreviate every word. Go have a real conversation with somebody.

02:36:36

Make someone laugh. Make a laugh. Make her feel comfortable. And not with Twitter jokes. Like, actual.

02:36:40

Like, shit's happening in real life. Having a real conversation. Don't know the world outside of that. They don't know it. A lot of these young niggas just hang out, but a lot of these young niggas just hanging out with each other.

02:36:49

They smoking that weed. Sprayed. It's just bullshit. Drinking that wine. No, no, listen.

02:36:55

No, no, no, no, no. Whatever that sprayed shit is, it's fucking them up. It's not like before when niggas had Purple haze and Sourdeez. It's not that. So whatever shit they spraying on is.

02:37:05

It's really putting these kids in the trends. It's them up. I seen it. Even when I outside. Just a bunch of young just.

02:37:10

They don't give a About no girls. They just smoking the weed, and they showing you the package. I got this spray and like that. It's something I've seen in. In a couple of different hoods.

02:37:18

Yo, y' all should. Y' all should try. Like I'm saying, it's amazing. But ain't no spray on no weed. Better than some.

02:37:29

Yeah. Like no warm. Yeah. I'm sorry. I don't care what PlayStation came out.

02:37:34

I don't care what. What spray you got. You got to try. You can spray whatever the you want on it.

02:37:41

I don't care what type of barber song you got. Some things you could just count on being fly. What? Yeah. Is on always.

02:37:52

You can stream later. Yeah. All right. Even when you addicted to that. Yeah.

02:37:57

You know what else? Yeah. I like. I like get you some. Get you some of that.

02:38:04

It'll change your life.

02:38:13

What is that what he said? That casa knot. Get you some casa old. This nigga's oldest man.

02:38:28

Okay, that's not such a good show. No, no, no, no, no. Your man said you said something to me, and you crying. You doing that laugh like when Sasha was here. But he's not leaning.

02:38:46

Lean another way, though. Crazy, son. Yo, get some, y'. All. I hate that.

02:38:52

That has to be the message up here. Stop shooting against a coochie. Violence to go down. Yo, Start getting some box, bro. Gang banging.

02:39:02

I told you if you wasn't married. I shoot at you. Shoot at me now, cuz you down with them streaming, too. No, no, I'm getting. You want.

02:39:09

You want to be in the streets fighting rather than get some. Get some and calm you down. I got a wife. I got a wife, so I have at home. Know your place when you talk to me.

02:39:21

That's true. This I violated now. Don't give me no 5, don't give me no pound. Don't give me no pound. Watch your mouth.

02:39:27

Watch him out. When you talking to the great one. I just said I violated. Nah, I'm good. All right.

02:39:37

What happen it? Shane say? Yo, you feinging, bro. It be that laugh.

02:39:44

Moving right along. Well, moving right along on this big broadcast that we know is big because we just went to Monday Night Raw and the reaction tells us, hey, this thing is pretty big. Oh, yo, I understand. I get it now. Yeah, yeah.

02:40:02

I could kill you. You went to Monday Night Raw. I could kill you niggas with that. I get it now. I ain't been to Monday Night Raw in a while.

02:40:08

I got told her. Funny. Yo, this is stupid. Anyway, I ain't been to Monday night. I gotta talk to her.

02:40:18

Oh, let's see. Oh, let's see. Clips at the Vatican. Bud Canelo Jeezy, Vegas Dating ass, Pretty punishment. Drake leaks.

02:40:26

Little Baby retirement room. I don't know if y' all told me your thoughts on that Little Baby retirement rumor that was going around. I didn't hear it. I didn't hear it either. There's some company or production company that has ties to Lil Baby that did the insta story like a week ago saying that Little Baby is retiring from music.

02:40:44

Now, I didn't vet this. I didn't check the page, but I saw people in a panic saying that Little Baby might be retiring from music. And it is odd that all of the people Young Thug has been singing to lately have just been quiet. So there's. All right.

02:40:59

So I see everybody wanting Lil Baby to say something. Even from when the Thug Leaks first started. Have y'. All. He don't do the Internet.

02:41:07

No, you don't. He's never been one of them to do the Internet, so I don't even understand the expectation for him to say something. Lil Baby always move like. Like a real behind the scenes, just moving around, not letting you know what's going on. You're not gonna get his thoughts on this, so y' all can let that go.

02:41:25

I appreciate that, too. Yeah, we need more of those in terms of the retirement. I don't believe it. I wouldn't believe it. I don't believe it.

02:41:33

Is any rapper who. What rappers ever retired and stay retired that we care about Me, Joe, Are you the first? Well, you said that you care about, so maybe not. No, no, we care. But I mean, I mean outside of you.

02:41:44

Like, that's why I'm just saying that, to say, like, I don't believe it. Because it's never true. Because you can go back to the well to get some water when you need it. Joe pivoted and don't gotta financially go back to rapping. Right.

02:41:56

And you also didn't retire 15 years ago. You know, I mean, like retiring when you're still young and got all, you know, I mean, like in rap years I'm talking about is different than rapping. Then transitioning to a new career and saying, I don't want to do the old shit no more. I don't see him retiring. Still was 35.

02:42:11

Yeah, he was still. Who, Joe? You think that's young? Yeah, today. Yeah.

02:42:16

Okay, it's true. That's a good point. You're right. In rap years, it's not like it used to be. That's true.

02:42:21

I wish I could retire soon. Really? Hell yeah. Hell yeah. If you could have, when would you die?

02:42:28

I wanted to, but I was broke. Had to go. Had to go play the game.

02:42:36

Let me see, let me see, let me see, let me see, let me see. What thumbnail. I was just trying to ask you all about.

02:42:43

Totally unrelated. When they shot Charlie. Kurt start adding Joyner. Lucas saying, don't you think about it.

02:42:55

That's funny. That's funny. All right, forget it. I know, you know you're not gonna get it, but it's pretty funny. Joining Lucas does the verses from different perspectives, points of views.

02:43:10

So they told him not to be the. He was just gonna be there. You knew he was gonna do it. All right, talkative munch, you got me. I'm all out of topics unless Mark wants to explain to us why America and Israel's relationship seems to be so close knit.

02:43:29

But if you don't want to do that, stay for the patreon.

02:43:39

Let's see. Yeah, that's everything that I've got on. On my. I'm done. I'm done.

02:43:45

What they sleeping on, Joe? Oh, sleepers. Yeah, we could do a little sleeper. We could do. It's been a week.

02:43:51

Sleeper, sleepers. Where you get those? Sleeper. What are they sleeping? I don't even know anymore.

02:43:57

Wow.

02:43:59

All right. I have something that they are indeed sleeping on. Before I get to that, though, I got to. I got to come clean with you guys. I never looked at Travis Kelce's ex a certain way before until I saw her go to Chris Brown's concert the other day.

02:44:14

Yeah, man. I don't know if you guys saw that. Oh, yes. I want to shout out Chris Brown for making the genius move to cut the lights and cameras off during take you down when you're going in for the kiss. I know I bigged you up on this broadcast before for that they tried to get on you when you was making it public doing your little kiss thing.

02:44:35

So now we cut the lights out, which helps when you got something up there that you really want to kiss. Travis Kelsey's ex. And let's say her name, man. I'm trying not to say it because I'm involved. I got a girl name is Kayla Nicole.

02:44:51

Man. That's. That's that woman's name. That's that woman's name. Put respect on her name.

02:44:57

What. What that young lady did on that stage, book her for the rest of the tour. I ain't gonna hold you that whole leg up where your dick can't get to nothing. But, oh, no, you ain't. See, both legs reached and grabbed.

02:45:13

Oh, when you grab a hole, grab him back there. Now come here. Come here. Make sure I'm on. Oh, my lord.

02:45:20

Then she did some move where she caressed the back of his head. It's over there. Yeah, I'm going by now. We was going long before then, my brother. Brother.

02:45:31

Oh, yeah, my brother.

02:45:34

A little hip toss. I'd have started shaking right then. They panned the camera around so you could see her face, and she went into no hands, no hands mode. Laughing and just smiling like she could do this in her sleep. Like it's just off the muscle memory.

02:45:52

Travis. Kelsey, I know you engaged. I know Taylor Swift. I got all of that. It ain't.

02:45:57

It ain't doing dog respect. Dog respect. And I never looked at her like that.

02:46:09

I never looked at her like that at all. I didn't. I hear you, buddy. I hear you say this crazy. She hit that move up there.

02:46:21

I was watching with my girl. I had to make up some like, oh, okay. She's flexing.

02:46:27

Try to find. What kind of boots are those? Damn, she's athletic. You see them boots? Yo, those boots.

02:46:33

You can tell she plays soccer. She gotta be a soccer player. Yeah. Link tree. Oh, my Lord.

02:46:40

I try to Find a link tree. Like, oh, my Lord, I tried to fund the link tree. Plant more seeds for the tree. Oh, my Lord, she was amazing. Shout out to Kayla Nicole.

02:46:52

You can tell she went to, like, performance art school. No wonder why Travis switched him. His whole look. Damn, I ain't going to hold you. That went from.

02:47:01

I mean, he's back to who he is back. Yo, that was planned, Nick. No, but she had too much oil on the legs. That ain't. Look, no, no, no, no, no, no.

02:47:10

That don't mean that was planned. That's how they was at the show. Oh, yeah, they was. You're right. Yeah, they were all at the show.

02:47:16

Hit your cousin up. So you like that? That get us a VIP to that Ish. To the Kayla show. No.

02:47:23

Yes to the Kayla show. Come on. Ish. Kayla, if you came in here and did that little move, Imani might become Chris Brown. You could get all the money.

02:47:35

You could 100 get all the money from this little podcast room. That's a fact. It's not a little podcast. That's a fact. You could get the network fun one.

02:47:49

She can't slow bank, Ro. She can't get all that. She can get a nice couple dollars, though. She can't. According to you.

02:47:55

Nobody can get it. Nobody can get it from you. Don't show it to me. Come on. Don't show it to me, my brother.

02:48:04

Listen, man, I do have a joint that y' all are sleeping on. Yes, sir. Before I play, I want to say that I absolutely. I've said it before. I absolutely love everything that current Kehlani is doing.

02:48:15

I think that if Kehlani damn near wanted to start, like, her own record label right now, she would be. She has her pulse on a certain sound in R B. Between what she's doing with Destin Conrad, between what she's doing with K1, like some of these newer artists that Kehlani is around, and when she put defeat, she's on an absolute enc. Insane feature run. I can't.

02:48:43

I can't not sing her praises enough. I'm playing a record by Isaiah Haran. This record is called See Right Through Me featuring Kaylani. And yet again, Kenny Smokes. This really great record reminds me of Daniel Caesar.

02:48:59

No, reminds me of Dre and T Pain, that classic they got. Here it is. See Right Through Me, Isaiah Haran, featuring Kelani.

02:49:26

Darling, I think you're the D. You made me happy when I was, wasn't Now I like to call you my baby I don't care if they see me blushing cuz their opinions count for nothing that's why I'm betting on you cuz you know what I need fixed up you seen a bigger picture that's why I'm interested in you cuz I you see me falling you'll be right there pick me up and that's why it's true cuz you'll see right through me that's why I'm interested in you cuz after all you see me do you said there's nothing left to prove me the way you want to see it I think it's an act of God and baby if it makes us stronger I push out my doubts aside want to grow with you baby I wouldn't tell you they going to say we crazy cause they don't believe me when I say that I want you anyway despite how we met I keep my streets too undeniable for me to say that I want it any other way that's why I'm betting on you cause you know what I need fixed up you seen the bigger pictures why I'm interested you won't be the one I like that it's you you see right through I don't mind sticking with you cuz after all you see me do you said the nothing left to prove Sam.

02:52:31

Oh that was actually.

02:53:24

That song is incredible again. That is Isaiah Haran featuring Kehlani. That record is called See right Through Me. That is off of Isaiah's project Concubania. Concubania.

02:53:37

And the entire project is fire. So shout out to him. Really great, really great song. Really great project. Okay, I'm gonna play something off of Kevin Gates newest project Luca Brasi 4 this is Thugging featuring G Herbo.

02:53:54

I' ma just talk my on this. Yeah, I'm just waiting on the black bear for the startup. Yeah, that about to start up in a minute. You look ass you know what's down with me ho it's walking light trying not to crease the front white T shirt black made that pop the trunk go get you one Porter ranch mansion shopping wife and pick out what she want yellow bumblebee Mercedes cooling with my newly baby colored truck bone front who this this for you le bake pinky ring bling bling blonde sneaky link some faith or not diamond chains with chopper playing matching diamond tennis bracelet trying to pop it on the slick like I ain't turned around this community that you live in and got a gator for offense Rolex watch don't fit your wrist you probably Stole for my trick on my balance stand wazzy safe to say we with the shits if I catch you out of bounds I'mma do you something sick yeah, take your lick we fucking all that you be doing on me nothing real street no you, you be bluffing watch till you hang around turn your game creep up on you catch you slipping, lay you down TTG train to go we don't wait around I'm a money getter up eight figures liquid and I'm still getting richer fashion district spent 250 like I bought a richer I'm in Philly I don't think like I bought for the Sixers pull up M3 M6GT Cyber Beast of the Year is six whips half an M on the kit that's nothing I spent 100k on my killers I'm in a rack with a fit in the drink I mean tone my glasses to look 38 I wrapped it with tape used

02:55:32

to find a whole block up and hit it ass boxing the beat here to dip it rhyming, no mask and still out on 50 I ain't get no when I did it please the fifth before I admit it me and gang we exit gorillas hey take your lick, we thug it I'll let this and you be doing on me nothing real street know you pussy you be bluffing watch till you hang around turn your gangster on you can't get you slipping, lay you down TTG train to go we don't wait around and that is thuggin Kevin Gates and G herbo off of Luka4dope. I'm going to the Carolinas Rhapsody and Mad Lib did a shot two song project that they put out Physical O Lee but now is on streaming.

02:56:30

This is Avon through the Wire.

02:56:36

See the first verse? I was trying to sound like a dude.

02:56:42

I might use a little AI to with my voice on the first one. We're gonna get creative. You got some AI in there.

02:56:50

And Jay Z laugh. Yeah, I remember. You remember too often. Smoking black and Miles hugging each other over coffins. I was just a child.

02:57:02

You were the good girl who was in love with a criminal. You gave me a shot kick. When I do foul on these back roads Reminiscing where we came from. Proud of you. Everything you've done but ain't changed up.

02:57:14

You moved out, evolved. I got shot five times. You still call. I respect that. You always been the real one.

02:57:20

For real? Yeah, always been a real one. Never judge me for the things I got to deal with. How you appreciate A from the streets you ain't forget, you ain't forget me Damn, that's crazy Things I've done I ain't die from Damn, that's crazy Things I've done for where I'm from Damn, that's crazy yeah Damn, that's crazy Damn, that's crazy Things I've done I ain't die from Damn, that's crazy Things I've done from where I'm from Damn, that's crazy Damn, that's crazy Damn, it's crazy Damn, it's crazy yeah Looking at my life Wish I did more with it Thinking of the time I wasted like my jeans fitted Babies that I had thank the family from babysitting I was locked up Like Bob Dylan singing Beyond here lies not much Lies not much yeah lies they sold you I seen it I've been around the world and back there's better cars than Beamers I've been behind them wheels I turn it like Tina My joy can feel an arena I barely get to it without subpoenas it's for you to believe it's way too many achieve it's still time for you, for your life I never grieve I never grieve Damn, that's crazy Things I've done I ain't die from Damn, that's crazy Things I've done from where I'm from Damn, that's crazy yeah Damn, that's crazy Damn, that's crazy Things I've done I ain't got from Damn, that's crazy Things I've done From where I'm from Damn, that's crazy Crazy Damn, it's crazy Damn, it's crazy Damn, it's crazy Damn, it's crazy as Rhapsody and Mad Libs Avon through the wire gu Fire like super fire Man, I hope they do more music, man Shout, shout out to both of them Shout out to

02:59:23

both of them My man put me on the Dave east and young Chris got an album out it was all right that shit is kind of fire yeah, it's tough this is I smell the money I can smell that is Martin they run and sell that I get plenty love Any drug I could sell that they bringing up my name in the tricks it's to where the gel at I've been trying to keep my faction high we used to fraction pies wore droves to a warship Shows touching the exercise we all had goals Some of us actually try when we roll y' all had froze like the Jackson 5 my PO told me my piss gonna put me Back in line but when your mind is groundbreaking it'll check the sky see what be saying facts and lie it wasn't the handshake the last time I gave D A. Five rivalries was turned to shopping sprees hustling constantly bullets not around that ax with me nothing was shocking me Avoid the type that hang on top your sentence like apostrophes no cops with me corner the market let's play Monopoly sloppy she got me right I talking like I'm Socrates Republican or democracy is fondo me hot grabber I don't know what them is but that's not proud of different kind of brown upon these seats baby this hot chocolate high father prayers with my grandmother to cops follow after party dot swallow deep waters does not shadow raise the blade enough of the razor blade enough A razor blade this lifestyle no it came with phase I'm in a dangerous lane enemy don't play with flame I'm from the trenches we just ain't amazed I've been around it ain't the same how you supposed

03:00:53

to change the game you just stay the same I started with an eight for king Destiny's Child say my name I know that money close I can smell that's why they jealous I know that money close I can smell it I can smell I know that money closer I can smell it in the middle of the ocean Purple potion got that working coast to coast and my life is the roller coaster to cry dirty no Polar Nova fully automatic get back soldier straight to the basket I hit that floater never over what we won Theft is the only quota I'm the engine for the members don't up your only motor wake up my bo and sell a gumbo like the Noa got a contact off the Oda nobody sober 14 bins the soda I gotta play down the Villanova ball like Scotty Reynolds trapping out of the rental this monumental it say no oh let's go try to get viral this gotta be in you ain't gotta pretend you gorilla you really vanillas talking against the until you running the killers up top one on the ceiling top of the chop of the top of the drop 100 deep out on the hawking 100 degrees them out there in these skis we trying to heat up, make it hotter Tagging your toe for top dollar bunch of rain noses and rock Wallace get lit off the cow we so from the top straight to the league without the cows love me a bad without the mileage A1 solid get to the money and power been Winning this shipping for Cal make me khaki they can thinking he proud like I give him whatever inside it Talking about riders and thousands letters Temperature up it's hotter

03:02:13

than never expire shout to the that plotted together and got it together Money for child you do a bear take care of the child Selling the water selling the loud stick to the code I pray these they selling the south we know the lie I know that money close I can smell it I know that money close I can smell it I know that money close I can smell it I know that money money I know that money close should I can smell that's why they jealous I know that money close that I can smell it I know that money close should I can smell it they gonna tell that is I smell the money Davies and Young Chris.

03:02:54

Chris went crazy on that album he did. Yeah, he went nuts on that. Let me tell you something. If you're a rapper out there and you call Young Chris is one of those guys where if you invite him to feature on your song by mistake, you just walked into a hard time. He's coming.

03:03:08

He's showing up. Seriously, you might not view it like that. He's showing up, but when he gets there and goes in the booth and you listen, you're gonna be like. Like, oh, I bit off maybe a little more than I could chew. I learned that at a Chad west studio in Philadelphia.

03:03:22

The only right you guys learned it as well. Go Young Chris Davies. Yeah, sleepers is fine when we don't play them every week. You got some that are sleeping on here. Come mark with some off the Black Panther soundtrack.

03:03:37

What Roots did. Here's Roots, Silent Treatment. This Black Dog. It's good jokes, guys. He don't got to sleep.

03:03:46

What? He said he's sleeping on what's happening in Gaza. Oh, yeah, What Nyla Blackman did. I don't have a sleeper, thank God. Oh, I didn't know I said that out loud.

03:04:03

Yo, this. You touch my computer. Yo, why you playing? You touching my computer? Yo, you know I'm trying to touch my computer again.

03:04:08

So, Man, I'm telling you. Me, you've been going back and forth. I've been trying to. Yeah, but today's the day. Whatever gripes you got to say, say it today to your face.

03:04:17

No, just say I'm today or what? Friday you got off, right? Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got off Friday.

03:04:29

I'm going, I'm going. I'm going. I'm going to the other side. And you said you got that London Trip you was planning. I am.

03:04:34

For 30 days. Yeah. Yep. 30 days. Yeah.

03:04:37

Right. Got an interview coming up now. You'll see. Good. Yeah, Good.

03:04:42

Yeah, I support you. My. My guy kicking your back in? Hey, go ahead.

03:04:49

Don't do those stupid eyes to me. I don't think they see the can. They see when you do that? I don't know. I don't know.

03:04:59

Yes, sir.

03:05:03

Shout out to Rob 49 Cardi Man. Yeah, I'm a rich I you right there on that money. Yeah, right there on that money. I need a Joe Button podcast night at the strip club, man. Come on, before I retire, because I'm almost done going for one.

03:05:25

No, you're not. But I'm almost done. Y' all sure? You broke your footing one, y'. All.

03:05:31

What's almost about 15 years away. What's almost? Oh, when I'm married. When I'm engaged, even. Come on, we only got a little bit of time left.

03:05:43

Heavy. Have some fun. You know, when you come in here silent, he like, she got a ass, right, Corey? That wings, J make them turkey wings for nothing. Hey, y' all thought the turkey wings was for free.

03:05:57

Turkey wings was. She don't play. She don't play. She can say, my baby don't play.

03:06:05

All right, man. Hopefully y' all have enjoyed this podcast as much as we have enjoyed delivering it to you. Hey, I'm a rich I it right there on that money. Yeah, right there on that money. Right there on that money.

03:06:26

Yo, keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time we bid you adieu. Farewell. Adios.

03:06:32

Arrivederchi. Hasta la vista. Au revoir. So long. Goodbye.

03:06:36

Or a simple head nod or suffice.

03:06:39

Remember life is a series of moments and moments past. So let's make this one last as if it's all weak.

03:06:54

Last but certainly not least. The baddies want to travel to close minded women want you to teach them things.

03:07:03

I it right there on that money. Yeah, right there on that money. Right there on that money. Come on, what y' all doing for the week? Anything fun?

03:07:13

Anything fun? What y' all doing? What y' all got going on? At least try to sound lit. Come on.

03:07:18

Ask y' all this every time and y' all sound as unlit as you could sound. Ain't lit. Come on, you lit. My God. Yo, I ain't even lit you any money.

03:07:28

Lit. I ain't lit, but I know how to pretend. No, you lit. I'm not lit. Come on, man, Tell me y' all doing Something lit this week, man.

03:07:36

Come on, Come on. Give me something. Traveling. Speaking. Just traveling.

03:07:39

Sleeping. Probably catching up on rest. Yeah. Naps on Thursday night. If you.

03:07:44

If y' all in Houston, I'll be in.

03:07:48

I'll be in Houston for the National NBA Conference, so. National Black NBA Conference. So if y' all out in Houston, make sure you check me out. And then Friday night, I'm at Delaware, Newark, Delaware, for Black Business Owners association event. So if y' all, Newark, Delaware, check me out.

03:08:07

That's fire. That sound like a lot of fun, Mark. I like paying my bills. That's fun. Hey, that sounded like you're gonna have a good time this week, buddy.

03:08:17

Flip. What's up with you fighting somewhere? Anger management. I'm doing this week. There we go.

03:08:24

Anger management classes. Did you find a cameraman? Yeah, I did. I did. That was the end of my question.

03:08:30

Question. Look, no. You trying to lose something? No. I saw you on Instagram asking.

03:08:37

I'm not. Yo, I'm not afraid.

03:08:41

If I was afraid, I'd get a dog and I got one named Gambit. And if it get too crazy, we're gonna take it out. I'm not afraid.

03:08:50

Talking about that was crazy. I got a cameraman. I'm sorry. Anger management, though. How's it going for you?

03:08:56

I'm about to. Seriously? Yeah. I'm in a round of applause for that. You gonna film it?

03:09:00

Yeah, I am. Oh. What? That's real anger, man. What?

03:09:06

My journey is a journey. Real anger management. Real program. What made you want to do it? My reaction to things is to.

03:09:15

Is, you know, just having reality checks. You put that HR made him go. Hr. HR have nothing to do with. Joker sent them over there.

03:09:22

The joke hit y' all from the JBP system right over there. Anger management. JBP got nothing to do with that. So he can get back. Right?

03:09:29

It's just real life shit, man. When you hear people that you love. You said, keep. What? Huh?

03:09:33

Keep his job. What is it? Yo, nigga, why you keep saying that? That's up. I violated.

03:09:37

Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. New shit. Yeah. Nah, nah. You got acknowledged when you violated.

03:09:44

That was wrong. I think that you think that you don't need me anymore, so you just going to say what you want. I'mma tell you that you going to bite off more than you could chew when it come to that. That with me. Why?

03:09:52

You don't need to do it. I'm not even trying to do no testosterone battle or. No, you got a champ. But I Just said you pushing me. Take.

03:09:59

You're saying things. I'm watching it back. You know they clipping it up. It's a compilation. I'mma have to get you.

03:10:04

And I don't want to. Lena talks. Lena talking sound good? They do. That's not right.

03:10:13

Stop. I think it's AI. That's not right. Selena listens. Look at you.

03:10:19

Trying to get some. Oh, boy. Look at you. You doing it again. You.

03:10:22

You ain't lying. Yo, that cather that came out. This boy will not stop. Ain't nobody humping around. Getting up on my back.

03:10:34

Yes. Listen. Shout out the words to that. So humping around. Yeah, you should, too.

03:10:40

I should? Yeah, you should know the words. I humping around now. Definitely.

03:10:47

I love. Stop humping, though. I don't hump at all. I just. Say it.

03:10:53

Say it loud, bro. Don't hump. There you go. All right. Yeah, but if.

03:10:57

If there's ladies listening that think you be humping, like, what would you say tonight? I don't hump. But don't look at me and say it. I don't hump. Tell them there's no way you could get this dick.

03:11:06

Tell them at all. Because there's some ladies out there listening that's thinking they got a shot at getting the. No shot. Getting it. Ish.

03:11:15

Ben. What's. What's your man name for the F. Ben Simmons. The ish. No shot.

03:11:21

Not at all. You hear that, ladies? No shot. What if they. Funny.

03:11:27

I'm asking what if they. What if they. No, no. Still no respect. Him.

03:11:31

No. He not giving up nothing. How about you? What if they homeless for you? What if that.

03:11:39

Does that work? What if they just. What if they'll just follow you around? What if they'll do some content? This is crazy, son.

03:11:48

What if they. I shot you down. Yeah. Bang, bang. What?

03:11:52

Yeah, do something about it. Stop. Do something about it. I'm shooting at. What's up.

03:11:55

Do. What about it? Yeah, it's two people, yo. What if they 220 and got a nice bean and rice game? Can't do that.

03:12:03

Exactly. My baby made some good beans and rice for the fight. You should have came. Not. Not that kind.

03:12:07

Should have came by, yo. Yeah. My baby beans and rice was much better. My baby beans.

03:12:14

No, it was. No way. No, it was. Yeah, Play the music. It was.

03:12:18

And none of my people be homeless. Watch your mouth. Watch your mouth. Watch your mouth. I stand on there.

03:12:25

I look in your eye. Watch your head. You'll a homeless as you would. I mean, if you Were single. What the are we talking about?

03:12:34

Cuz you can just look at a and tell who the. Are you crazy? I'm saying this is crazy conversation. I'm not. I'm not coming at you.

03:12:41

I'm saying this. So tell them. So tell them. That's why I didn't say what the are we talking about? I'm sorry.

03:12:47

I violated n. I'm leaving no ice. If it's somebody out there right now that's watching, they think they could take you from missing peace, what would you say to him? You can't. Ain't to say you're mean. No, that's it.

03:13:00

Ain't to say. Can't take none of us from my women. That's right. And if you think you can don't DM us or do. I won't read it.

03:13:09

I don't care. Oh, that's true, too. We don't read them shits. Hello? Hello?

03:13:17

All right, we going, man. Y' all hold it down till next time. Same time, same place, this weekend, you heard?

03:13:26

Wait, Did y' all see Justin the boy and Coyly Rake? I know that don't matter at all, but did y' all see Justin the boy hugged up with Coily Ray? No. My algorithm, man. I don't even know what Justin Leboy looked like.

03:13:43

The money said, like, you see that?

03:13:51

Yo, we out of here, man. Y' all hold it down. I like this episode with everybody not having guns. All Glocks down. All Glocks down, man.

03:14:01

A lot of fun today. And thank God Lil Nas X is all right. Facts. Thank God he's all right. Everybody can sleep well tonight.

03:14:13

Every time she come, she said, catch it. Have some money. I said, can I get. She said, boy, you funny. Well, you don't see me laughing.

03:14:20

Come sit that on them, honey. Tell her turn me up. P that for me. I'm a rich I right there on that money. Yeah, right there on that money.

03:14:30

Blues out it right there on that money.

03:14:41

Nose. Nose. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Joe Button?

03:14:51

You've never heard of Joe Bun?

03:14:59

We'll fold that up right now. Don't look, don't.

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Episode description

The JBP returns to the airwaves as they begin their latest episode discussing the Terence Crawford vs. Canelo Álvarez fight from Saturday night on Netflix (19:10) before turning to Cam’ron escorting Adrian Broner off the ‘It Is What It Is’ set (33:25). Dame Dash returns to The Breakfast Club (42:44), the features list for Cardi B’s new album has been released (1:07:24), and The Clipse perform at the Vatican (1:13:07). Joe then shares his thoughts on the Charlie Sheen documentary (1:24:20), Saweetie’s comments on pretty punishment (1:34:34), and a quick recap of The 2025 Emmy Awards (1:45:30). Also, Molly Qerim is leaving First Take and ESPN (1:49:30), Murda Mook & Hitman Holla battle (2:02:24), the room laughs at Joe and the God of War Krato’s memes (2:14:39), are dating apps coming to an end (2:33:02), and much more!  Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: http://www.patreon.com/joebudden  Sleeper Picks: Joe | Isaia Huron (feat. Kehlani) - “SEE RIGHT THROUGH ME” Ice | Kevin Gates (feat. G Herbo) - “Thuggin” Parks | Rapsody & Madlib - “Avon Thru the Wire” Ish | Dave East & Young Chris - “I Smell the Money”