Transcript of Episode 860 | "Whoopty Doo"

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All right. Look at Mark. My man, Mark. Get your. Yeah, my man.

Yep, yep. I saw Corey sitting there before we started, and I said, all right. Cory getting his little pod bag on. I was laughing. I ain't.

I ain't paying no attention to it. Then you came and sat down. I'm like, that look plush like mad pillow eating. I'm like, this look comfortable. He look comfortable.

The whole you sitting straight up now. So then I said, I didn't realize it was the whole couch. I was just like, yo, where them pillows come from? I thought you took some pillows and you know how Mel put the pillow behind us. Something like that.

He thought I. And then said he thought I put the pillow behind me like Mel something. And then said, that's a whole new couch. And I look, man, ish went like this. It's a nice couch.

Well, I mean, you guys have only been here for about 40 minutes looking at the couch. It's been. I was over there. Yeah, it's been for about an hour. I was over there.

First thing I noticed when I looked in. Where's the other couch?

That's a good question. Nice.

Then we get straight to it. Where's the other couch? I want to answer you. You can't do your. Your construction job.

Yo, hey, homeboy, you can't work on your construction job right now if you don't put that 37 inch Hewlett Packard somewhere. Well, wait, let's stay here, though. Let's stay here. In his back pocket. Move that.

Let's stay here, though. We talk about his computer later. All right, where's the other Couc is talking about for the audio listeners? Oh, yeah, my bad, y'. All.

For the audio listeners, I. There's a new couch here. It's a beautiful couch. Thank you. Park it look comfy as hell.

You should get a matching one. Maybe come sit over here playing with me. Sit right here. Come on. No, this.

I need a couch, but sit here, though. I need a couch here. I. Before I purchased the couch f for y', all, I had to make sure the. This couch was cool.

It's like a beta version Like a Beta version. You know about the beta? Like a beta. Y. See it real quick.

Come on. Send Mel C. Real quick. A little taste of this.

I said, Mel, you said a lot of crazy. Come on. For real. Freeze. Come on, freeze.

Come sit right here. You go over there and sit on that couch. I kill you. You would have to sit on the couch, dodo head. So you come get a taste of this.

Yeah. All right. Yeah. Get this. Where's the couch?

You like our taste? Y' all gonna head to restoration after. Bite yourself. No, right? Hell.

No. Hell to the north. How was it? Hell. Where's the other?

The Beta passed. Now where's the other couch? Okay, now, they didn't have two of these.

I didn't think. Well, that's the great thing about working with your friends. I didn't think my friends would not want me to have the new couch that was there. Right. So I did buy one, and the old couch was making me miss it.

You missed the old couch.

Thank you. I don't know the words because I never missed. I never missed anybody.

Hey. I don't know the words to that one. I thrived in the abandonment. Freeze. Your couch is coming, big dog.

All right, cool. Okay. You know I wouldn't do that. You know, I wouldn't be trying to make sure I wouldn't get one couch and not get two. Huh?

Oh, I wouldn't have done that. You could take that to tonight's conversation. You can take that up there to them.

All right. So how we feeling, man? I'm introing this and shutting up for an hour so Mark could go. Oh, we going with that? Topic one.

Right? That's what I'm doing. Y' all can have a blast. I got much to say, audience. Huh?

I don't have a lot of. What the hell? I watched your night school. I did, too. No.

People had a little bit to say. I watched your night school. People weren't happy about that. They weren't. Some people weren't.

No. Really? Really. People want you to take extreme because you're mature. Oh.

Oh. Your people wanted you to. People on every side. Gotcha. And I watched the cold Doc again.

That I already saw. I did watch the cold, but I watched it with a new set of eyes this time. I had the luxury of this being the first time watching it after knowing what I. Yeah, Great. That way I. I found you. Or did you?

I thought I seen him in there. No, it was him. All them look like Mark. All of them look like Mark. Well, that's racist.

It's racist if you say it. Racist if you say it. I can say it. Yeah. Now all of them look like Mark 1, and.

And I saw this already, so I didn't have. I don't have any questions or anything like that. The one thing that stood out this time, knowing somebody that was involved in the. What's the name of the. The Nuabian n. The Nuabians was the.

What. What was your. Let's go do that. What was the. The Nuabians.

You subscribed to that? A lot of people did. Apparently. They said they were aliens, and he was like, yeah, it. I guess we're aliens.

We weren't aliens. We just knew that there were aliens. Oh, yeah. We didn't think we. Now I get what you asked me.

No, no, I. I didn't think I was an alien. Oh. I just thought there could be aliens somewhere. Did you join the cult they in. In the.

I thought. Go ahead. I thought he said he was the. He was the alien and y' all were aliens? No, just him.

Oh, just him. Yeah. He was the man from the planet Risk. He didn't bestow that upon them.

Mercury, Venus. Where that one at? It's over there. Yo, that nigga arg about a potential flat Earth, but this nigga think that nigga's from Risk. Yeah, but I was 16, 49.

Circle back. That's right. Circle back up. Get that flat Earth smoke. Where Risk was at?

Between Mars? It was in Ilune. What? It was the 9th, 18th planet in the. What galaxy was it in?

It was in a different galaxy. I don't remember. I was a teenager. It was Milky Way. It was Snickers.

All right, so they called you when you were young. I was asking that when I watched it. Yeah, I was. I was. I started reading.

I started reading the books when I was, like, 14. Yo, do you still have the books? And Almond Joy Galaxy? Oh, it's still mad about that. Get revenge today.

I'm far from now you got him now. You should watch the docs if you're really. Watch the doc, Please. I'm just cracking with my boss. Yeah, no, we had fun, though, man.

Huh? Okay. Yes, it was fun. Why does everybody think. Yo, see, this is the problem.

Y' all all think cults be like, oh, love, sex, violence, a lot of murder, a lot of suicide. Oh, but in between that, there's lots of good times. I'm trying to tell you, yo, this sounds crazy. My. That be coming home from jail, like, yo.

Ish word. You would have been loving it. Yo, we used to be hooping.

Y' all wish my ish was. No, you don't wish your ish was here. Them jail say, but we. But we weren't. Yo, we have.

I'm telling you. Be like jail relationships be genuine, the most fun. I mean, as a. As a period of life. I'm saying better than here.

This isn't a period of life, but. Yes. No, this is definitely a period of life, but I'm not comparing the two. Mark only been here for a year. He long?

Yeah. And it was great. I would think with all the abuse that this was. I didn't know about the abuse.

By the way. They still got him. Yeah. What you mean? You can hear it.

Listen to him. Oh yeah. He's still down like. No, you know what it is? He said he still reads the books before you go to bed.

No, I did the moment like, you know, I still got the tattoo. I still got the coat tattoo right here. I like it. It's the one. I didn't get cover.

I never got a cover, cuz I never felt. It's. To me, it's just a. It's a memory and it's a. It's a time in my life upside down heart.

It's a little bit. It's. Yes. It represents divine love. While we on tattoos in flat earth, can I just ask, can I bring something up without getting attacked?

Please, go ahead. Ish. A little. The bird on the curb. Mark, when you wasn't here.

He did. Yeah. We talked about bts. Mark said you got a stitching of a tattoo that you're gonna get of the earth, but it's round.

Is that true? I have a stitching of it. When you're showing the mock up of your potential tattoo, you have a picture of. Of the earth on it. The planet.

Are you getting around earth on you for all the goofies you include it you the ring. You know I'm the king goofiest. Why you act surprised? I'm not. You know me already.

With regards to your flat earth conversation. My. My flat earth quote unquote theory is that it's a possibility. Not on tonight's come talk normal. I'm talking normal.

That ain't how you use a lot of business talk when Cheyenne Bryant talk to me like a. Like we was in Jersey. Girl, I know you talk regular. I talk with regards. I talk this way my whole life.

Anyway, dog. I never said the earth is flat. I said that there's a possibility. And I'm open to that possibility. That is What?

I said, I ain't fight for flat earth. I don't know. Are you open to playing it at risk?

Let me ask you a question. How do you know how to pronounce it? The alien told him the proper way to pronounce risk. You can't say risk is Arabic. It was Arabic.

It was Arabic. But risk, it means to provide. Yeah, you were still. You were still in there. He's still in there.

Would you like to learn the truth? Operative. He a operative. Yo, we gotta go check the truck. In your car, you got pamphlets.

Still keep recruiting. Still keep recruiting. Find out. Jersey City, downtown. No, you know what it is?

When. When. When you. When you. When you.

When you. It's different kinds of cults. True. Some cults are like the hardcore. Like, just join, drink the Kool Aid.

Give us your kids. Yours was, yo, you going to drink water first, and we going slowly add Kool Aid. I mean, we going. Go get the kids. They built stuff.

They. They still got the kids. But I didn't know. I remember a lot of famous people were part of it. Like, people I knew were part of it.

Like when we were growing up. I mean, it's not secret, like jazz. I mean, famous to us. Famous to us. Like when you watch.

When you watch, like, the Originators, you see when you watch Jazz O's first video, he's sitting there with Dr. York on it all in the video. You remember he says in the. Jay Z said that. Yeah, yeah, but I mean, it's in the video. I mean, when I went up there, the Grave Diggers was up there.

We know music. Soul Child was a member. Yeah. I mean, it was all love, all family. So, like, it didn't feel like a weird thing.

It got weirder over time. And it's. You know what it's like. See how hip hop influence. You know, it's like.

It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like a Diddy party. It's like a Diddy party.

No, no, it was. It was actually exactly like a diddy party. Yeah, take that. Take that. Oh, no.

What I mean is, Joe's been to a diddy party, right? I've been to a few. Yeah. But then there's another party after that party. Wasn't at that one.

Exactly, exactly. And so it's like, you can join the cult. I wasn't at Burning man. And I wasn't Burning Man. That was a good joke.

I'm saying that there's levels to. There's different Diddy parties. Right. When you join the cult, like, there's different levels. Second, Mark, I'll smack the out of you, Yo.

That'll be the last smack in a long time. And take that jab, then. You can't go out there after the show. You might. Yeah, I mean, go ahead, Mark.

I'm sorry. That's the whole point. You could be a member and not know all the shit that's going on behind the scenes because you think you. You in. But then there was another level, which is moving to the land.

Oh, you weren't cool enough. I got to the land. So you did make it to another level. Community, the organization, the circle, the inner circle. And the inner circle.

She laid it out. She gets to your inner circle. What part were you in? Yeah, you was in kindergarten. I was on Thanksgiving of 1996.

I was up there.

We ate dinner. Y' all still celebrating Thanksgiving, we call it. He was getting. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Run that back, yo.

Me. It was the day of gratitude. It wasn't like American Thanksgiving, but there was turkey. Y' all didn't wear the hats. We wore them hats.

Different hats.

Oh, my God. That's also a solid joke. That might be your funniest joke. Yeah. So I went up there, and I walked in the next morning just to, like.

Because I was. I was. I was the driver for the. For the Ramsey's nightclub. So that morning, I was checking to see if any.

If they need any. Anybody picked up. Because I think the night before, we had picked up the Blue Magic. And when I walked in. Wait, you were the driver for the nightclub?

They shut down. Wait, what Blue Magic? Y' all picked up, like, Ted from the Blue Magic? Oh, I thought he met heroin. I thought he meant heroin.

No, no, no. I mean, let the sideshow get them niggas was lit. Circus. Blue Magic. Yeah.

You took drug tests at the cult? They made me take one. I'll tell you. So here's how it ends real fast. So I drove up there.

I walked into the skating rink, which was the club doubled as a skating rink. And when I walked in, he had all these kids surrounded by him, and one of them was sitting on his lap. That's the first time I had seen anything that was weird to me. And it wasn't that weird to me. Cause he was.

He was. You know, he was. There were kids. He had, like, 500 kids. Like, literally his own biological kids.

130. Yeah, that's what they said, 130. I think it's more than. It's more than one. They said upwards.

Yeah, I think it's like 500. Cause I know, like, I know his old. Like Jake York, and all of them are like his old. Older kids. And then, like, the younger kids are like, the.

The next generation was my age. And then they're the ones who we still. They're running around that. So I walked in saying that I left because I was like. They're like, you ain't supposed to be here.

What are you doing here? Get out. Right. It was the way they reacted to that that was more suspect. Like they all had on skates.

You know what I mean? So I left. And then they told me I kind of. They sent me on a run to Atlanta because it's out in Eatonton, Georgia. I.

They never let me back up. A day later, they heard. They said, we hear reports that you're using drugs. Oh, and you're not allowed up here anymore. And that's when things started to come together for me.

I left you saying some shit you wasn't supposed to. That's when my spidey sense. Then I started hearing stories. That's when your spidey senses kicked in. Right?

Because all I knew he was fucking everybody's wife. No, there were no kids. All I knew was that he fucked people's wives because he was allowed to. Right? Yeah.

So that was almost like sanctioned in the context of I can have multiple wives and y' all can't. Cause y' all not disciplined enough, which happens in a lot of organizations. It does. A few questions for you. I don't care.

There's so many. Shit. Listen, one. This is my serious question. They said that the people that joined joined because they felt the need for a strong sense of belonging.

Belonging, identity and self pride. Do you think that's true for you?

Here's what happened. Partly. Yes. I was. I was following my brother, who was a 5 percenter, and I just started reading books and everything.

The one we talk about often, not the lawyer, but the other one. Yeah, Frazier. When I got to Morehouse, so part of it was basketball had ended for me at that point, and I was sort of devastated by it, and I needed a place to go. Yeah, you said I needed something to do and I didn't have. That was.

That was. Basketball was my whole world from middle school until my sophomore year of college. And so I ended up. And so that's when I was like. I remember the day that they told me.

So it just kind of ended. Right. I remember dropping out of Morehouse and going straight down There and said, I'm gonna work here full time in the bookstore. Mlk. And that's when I got really.

Got deep into it. You know what I mean? But before that, yeah, it was identity, it was belonging. It was all that stuff that I can understand. I can get with that.

That makes all the sense in the world to me. When I was watching it, it was through the lens of, how did they get my brother Mark to join? And would they have been able to get me to join? What I came away with was maybe until about the 32 minute mark.

Actually, you said you were the driver for the club. So my equipment. This. This was. What was your reaction when he said, because I was blown away at what they built in Atlanta.

Like when they showed the drone shot. Yeah, we had the houses. Yeah. What is your reaction when he points to some land and says, build the club?

Yeah, that's the part where. See, that's why the clicks never got. I can never get with some. You. You can't look at me and say, this is where I want my mansion.

Build it for me. So, no, he pointed. Y' all built a sphinx. So if he telling you that we have the ability to do all this and you. You believe in this?

Like, Jesus, man. If you don't call the contractors. If you don't call some people that's supposed to build this sphinx. They built a sphinx. Ish.

If you build it, they will come. Where were you during the raid, is my question.

I had drove. But to your first point, the way you do it is by convincing people that it's a collective. It's. We built this. It's not built this for me.

It's. Look what we had. We never said, you have 476 acres in Eaton tendos. We have 476 acres. And the idea is we're gonna have a homeland for our kids.

We're gonna have a place to keep our children, you know, safe from the streets and from what we call the Dunya, the outside world. And when you replace the I with we, everything gets better. People buy into it. Y' all wasn't pocket watching. We said, even illness becomes wellness.

We replace I with we. Right. Like, if any one of y' all get up and say, I'm going to build a sphinx. Ish. It could happen.

Your son could call you tomorrow. No, he couldn't. He could call you tomorrow. And the other thing is, he was a musician. Dr. York was a musician.

So he had the group pass. Did he have slaps? He had one. He had one One slap and he was old by the time Mark got in there. Like, y' all could have took him.

He's born June 26, 1945. So that means he was. Do you still celebrate? God damn, Jesus, I do not celebrate. What have you heard?

All right, listen, anyway. Yeah, we. We have to start this broadcast. We'll have more questions later for sure. Oh, my God.

Like, for the rest of your life. It's tough to even stay awake potting from this couch. It looks cozy. It's cozy, bro. You look comfortable.

You do look comfortable. It's comfy. It's. Come. Come sit right here.

I'm cool. Flip here. He about to sit next to you, Flick. No, he won't. That's a good.

That's a comfortable seat for him. He should sit there. Should sit right there. Not not. I'm not sitting over here.

Where are you going to sit at? I don't know.

Nobody said nothing about coming on time. What are you talking about? It's a new couch, bro. That's what we talk about. What time you got here?

We're not. What's up? I knock you the out. What's up? You come in here with an attitude, That's a trigger for me.

If people come in here with attitude, that triggers me a little bit. Like in real life before. In real life. What up, Flip? Has that happened before?

What's up, baby?

Leave me alone, man. Leave me alone. Please leave me alone. Please take your shoes off. I told you guys.

Why would you sit there?

Yo, what you talked all that? That's my son. Hey. Oh, good morning, y'. All.

We here. No, no, no, no. You can't sit by me. Hey, yo, sis, you don't know what you. Your back.

Oh, you got this for your back. Gonna be good, girl. Look.

Yeah, get me in trouble now. Another girl. Now, if another girl comes in here, these going to go crazy. Stop. Good morning.

How you doing? Par me, y'? All. Par me, man. You sitting here for real by me.

Next to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm back. He need a new seat. Yeah, my man took my seat.

Flip can sit here a little bit. That was like six months ago with them jeans. Yeah. Get out of here. All right, audience.

I'm sorry, y'. All. Yeah, I'm sorry. Our bad. We getting to work.

We getting to it. It's tough. Yeah, when you got this mortgage, you in your back.

Ish. Oh, my God. This your type, too. This your type. Ice was already over there.

White. Oh, yeah, that's the clip.

This feels good. All Right. The room is. You said. You said you sat on here.

You sat on here with the freeze. Yeah, yeah, that all right. That's why I said. Where's the other one? I got y' all two weeks.

What's the name of this Ish. Like, what's the. Oh, this is a cloud day bed. I didn't buy it in terms to a bed. That's not what day bed mean.

Call me. I don't know. You know, I ain't get money like y'. All. Paul me.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you can't use that one no more. Yeah, a little debate. You can't use that one no more, B. Well, yeah, just let it go.

That's why I text y', all to get the knowledge. You know what I mean? Put me on. Put me on the beginning day bad. This feel good.

Hey, yo, sis.

Stop, man. Yo, freeze. Look, it's like a lumber for the back. What I can do. Look.

Hey, it's like lumber. Wait, what was that?

It's lumber. Yo, let me rock it. And Mark, smile. You remember, he was laughing. He said that word.

It wasn't a word. I don't know. I know. We knew that a long time up here. Just let me say.

Don't tell me they caught it online though. They was killing me. I let it go. I was like, come on. The deal we made.

Yeah, it's all right. Gonna cut you on air. All right, we have to start the broadcast. Come on, come on, let's get to work. And we started story.

It's me again. Hey, you know your baby daddy. I was wondering if you wouldn't mind maybe splitting down with me on that old income tax thing. I did get to see our kid a few times this year and I took her to dinners and stuff and bought her things and. And you know, I might have not been able to hold down a full time job like you have all these years, but I think I've done a good part.

But my. My girlfriend, she's. Well, she ain't getting any income tax either. She don't have custody of her four kids. And I was just wondering, you know, if you could help me out, it might help me, you know, buy some Christmas presents for our little one.

If you even, you know, let me around this Christmas. I know you always say you do, but I just can't ever have gas money to get all the way there. So maybe, you know, I can put it in a savings account for something, I don't know, buy Christmas presents for these little kids too. Hers And I was just thinking ahead, maybe. Maybe you'll help out or something.

I don't know. Maybe you help me. She's kind of buy my girlfriend's kids, you know. You gotta see his baby mom dancing. It's been pretty rocky here lately.

I still love you. I mean, I miss you. I mean begin okay yeah now man I'm just starting man but I don't see much still running the street so I don't sleep much watching the snakes so they don't creep up but the way I'm getting is money can't keep up you can't keep up got beef but it can't be much I'm still walking through the crowds like I can't be touched Sh back all black grisky puck ice skate a little later Mike, let me damn she might let my bad this for the soldiers that see the sun my bad at midnight not about yeah, you was good. Still still about let me slow down it's so different I go to the grave before I be a better behave you dealing with some rich we done lost some 1, 2, 12 what's popping out there?

I understand the codes these hackers get crack I folks expect me to fold, communicate, violate parole always for the ladies all wait for the ladies feel am I kind of gonna feel like Solomon Seal? It's just the intro allow my flow time to sink into the temple Freemasons, freelancers, free agents we fast big contracts, big contractors, big pyramids, period. We master all black diamonds times were hard new Rolls Royce guess you made it all white neighborhood you they favorite my top back like JFK they want to push my top back like JFK so I JFK Shout out to wherever you might be listening from Shout out to the five barrels out there Big Jersey, big Jersey, stop writing so and I do it before I be a better behave you dealing with some rich starting in the ghetto now we worldwide multiplying and I pray multiplying and I pray to God you never die couldn't do nothing with me they put the devil on me I had a preferred nigga just squeeze the metal on me Rumors everybody at work right now whole world want with the minds turn music up all over the world Boston, what up, Connecticut?

What's going on out there? Go to hell.

This is God and generic this is the hell, man we pass in show cast the first stone for y' all look in the mirror, double check y' all parents I said I was amazing Rap boys is hard boys, you don't sound like Nipsey yo, dog. Huh?

We know they tried. Come to my life.

Everybody in Los Angeles. What up, what up, what up? What up? Whole West Coast. What's going on out there?

What? There's some people in this room that don't like the song. I don't pay Ice no mind. I take pride in not liking fire. I ain't pay Ice no mind.

Why you don't like this on Breeze? Cuz? It's not a good song to me. Yo, he be standing on the video. Hell, no.

He be on Mount Robotics. Yeah, Free.

He don't like that. Black empowerment.

Having fun today?

Yeah. Yeah.

All right. Well, yo, let me ask you what he said. Where? What? He just did the verse.

This is so hard. He said this is fire. No, I want you to tell me. Do I know the lyrics? Bar, I don't know any lyrics other than this is America.

What did he say? He said a bunch of. What did he say, though? Why? Because it's so fire, I don't have it memorized.

You don't know nothing. He said that's why I'm not a lyric guy. You asked the wrong guy. I just want to know what made this song dope. I like listening to it.

Yeah. Word. No, he said it's fire. This is fire.

The arrangement, everything. What are the lyrics? There y' all front. Y' all look. And I like the song.

Hold up. Listen. I'm not saying you don't. See, this is why Ryan Clark be talking to niggas a certain way. It why this?

This why. This is where players talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And not funny people that played the sport get to it. And that's you party going.

I bet you the two. I bet you the two songs that became one before this song. Y' all know the lyrics, but y' all not lyric guys. That's true. There's Michael Jackson songs I don't know lyrics to, okay?

There's Beatles songs, plenty of songs we don't know the lyrics to. Not no songs. I don't know lyrics, really? That's me now. Know the lyrics.

Don't speak to what y' all think it speaks to. But I love y'. All. I'm here for peace and love. I'm here for peace and love.

Let's not start out with division. This country has enough division. Shout out to division. Part of the country don't do that. This country has enough divisions.

Almost told you to sit home. I've seen your tweets. Oh, I gotta break it. Let me intro this. Yeah, I gotta update on that.

Yeah.

You turn on me for America Parts. What's that? It's part. It's part. It's part.

What's that?

New icing is. Who is that?

Who is that?

No problem with gay people. Gay people work for me right now. I forgot. I'm damn near around gay people every day. All right, mic check.

M M, M, M. Flip. Flip. Flip. Big Flip is in the building. Y' all notified Queen's finest.

You already know what time it is When Gang is here. What episode is this? Welcome to episode 860 brought to you by Fueled by Powered by Prize Picks Prize Picture. I'm your humble, grateful, gracious, happy to be here host, really comfy host Joe Button here with you really amazing people. Flip is here.

Mark Lamont Hill is here. Ish is here. Ice is here. Parks is here. Poe is here.

Corey is here. Erickson is here. Tanner and Savon are here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here. What's poppin?

How's everybody doing? Feeling great. How we doing? We doing good, boy. I'm great.

Let's go. All right, that is my intro. Tossing it to Mark Markle, my Hill. Take it away. I gotta update.

Solve racism. That's easy. That's easy. That's over already. But.

But I got an update for y'. All. Charlie Kirk's killer has been found. No, his dad read it. Of course he did.

His dad was a cop. His dad ratted. Oh, shit. His dad was a sheriff. And more importantly, this is my favorite part of this.

And I find no joy in the fact that Charlie Kirk is dead. But Tyler Robinson, the person who killed him, is a 22 year old, straight, heterosexual, cisgendered Christian male from Utah. Conservative family. White. White.

What? Yeah. Need to be satisfactory. Yeah, he forgot about that. Thank you.

That's a great one. White, like family's registered Republicans. He's not registered, but family registered Republicans. Dad's a sheriff. I'm just saying this is a dream for the left and for Cuz.

What happens is everybody for the last three days on TV been saying, you know, it's one of those crazy liberals, it's those crazy trans people. It's the blacks that killed them. It's the Democrats that killed them. Nope, wasn't none of them. It was one of y' all that killed him.

And that makes me relieved. Not happy, but relieved. I see what you said. You know what I mean? Yeah, that makes sense to me.

I just looked at his Facebook page, by the way. You know who he was for Halloween. Who? Donald Trump. Oh, so you.

You just ecstatic know who. Who was the killer the Alleged shot? Tyler Robinson. Yeah. And not like clowning Tyler Trump like he's a Trumper.

Oh, got it. Huh. That's what I'm saying. He is a hardcore right winger. He doesn't.

He doesn't like Charlie Kirk for whatever reason, but too early for my conspiracy theories. That's why I keep saying alleged. I'm waiting for the second hour. At least that's fair. But I'm getting them out.

Let's update the people. Yeah. What do you mean, yeah? You started with they caught the dude and didn't tell him who died. So Charlie Kirk, a few days ago, was murdered while giving a speech in Utah.

And to the people like me who are not necessarily familiar who. Who that was. And me, he was a podcaster, right? Podcaster, right wing commentator, troublemaker, pundit, all the things. Young kid, right?

College debater. College debater. College kid debater. Yeah, he was young in general. 31.

Yeah. Oh, that nigga look old as hell. Yeah. Hate to do that to you, bananas, man. Well, so Charlie Kirk was.

He was in fact invited to a college campus by a right wing student group. They brought him. He spoke. He was shot in the neck from 200ft away. And he wasn't shot in his neck.

Like, let's stay here for a second. Yeah. Because. And again, I am not an expert shooter. When I came in here and said that homeboy that shot tried to shoot Donald Trump in the air was a good shot.

Or you gun expert dudes popped up. Oh, anybody with some training can do that. Well, I'm gonna say it again. This dude was a good shot. Yeah, that.

That bullet. Charlie Kirk had a vest on. I watched the slow motion 9 million times, and he hit homeboy dead in his chest. Dead in his chest. And it popped off of his vest and ricocheted through his neck.

Oh, really? Oh, wow. That's what happened. Wow. I didn't watch video.

I don't. Wait. Oh, he hit him dead in his chest. Everybody said the neck. I'm like, I saw it.

It looked like. And it bounced. The bullet went through his neck and went through his neck. I see. I see.

I didn't watch. I didn't watch. I don't like to watch that kind of stuff. But I didn't know that. Yeah.

And you know, I got a million phone calls would have happened. Charlie Kirk's been shot. And before. Before long, I mean, I got to know that he was dead. And it's been.

The country's been up in arms ever since. Yeah, a lot of strong feelings about it. A lot of people celebrating it. A lot of people devastated. You know, I saw Candace Owens saying, I lost my best friend today.

You know, I saw other people say, you know, thank God, you know, like, ding dong, the witch is dead. That kind of energy. I don't have that energy. That's not my perspective on it. I think it's okay to be like, charlie Kirk is dead.

I don't care. I think it's okay to be like, charlie Kirk is dead. Fuck that guy, right? I think when you live in the public and you do what he did for a living, all bets are off. But the murder of him is the thing that I refuse to celebrate, nor do I want to condone.

Political violence is always an issue. It's always a problem. And we don't want to create a society or normalize society because we already created one where you can be killed for what you believe or what you think. Even though I think what he believed was deplorable. Even though I think he's a piece of shit, even though it's like the Hulk Hogan thing, I think it's totally okay to be like, charlie Kirk wasn't shit.

Charlie Kirk personally put me on the professor's watch list. He put me. Named me as one of America's most dangerous professors. Really? So.

Because there's something circulating right now with a young black female professor saying that she was on this watch list. Yeah, Brittney Cooper, I think, said that, who's a dear friend of mine. So you also were on. Yeah, I'm on that list. This is a real thing?

Yeah, yeah, it's a website. What is the professor's watch list? The idea is to take. It's mostly black and brown people, but to take professors who they say have dangerous ideas and who shouldn't be trusted. It encourages universities to fire us.

It encourages other people not to bring us in to speak. To speak and frankly. It encourages harassment and encourages doxing. Was he on this list? No, he's not a professor.

Oh, okay. You have to be a. And it's his list. He made that. He created the list.

Oh, yeah. So he basically said, I'm gonna tell. I'm gonna warn you all. Anyone combating white supremacists. Okay.

He took the mantle from, like, David Horowitz, who used to do it. David Horowitz was the first person who put me on the list. And these are like. He died this year too, you know. Of natural causes live way too long.

But all of this is part of an environment and a culture that we have right now. And I don't even know. I think again, I hate. I hated what Charlie Cook stood for. I don't want him to be murdered.

That said, let's not turn him into a saint. Let's not turn him into a martyr. He did create energy. He created a context for this. He's the one who encourages people to track people down.

His words, his actions, encourages people to threaten people. And he himself didn't talk against gun violence. He did quite the opposite. He did quite the opposite. He was like, second Amendment, sometimes people gonna die.

No. He said, yeah, sometimes times a few people getting killed is what we need. Right. I have a bunch of clips saved from him, none of which I'm going to play because that's not what this. I wouldn't want that right.

Or ears. But. But I do want the people out there who are out here sort of martyring him, going to the other extreme to understand Charlie Kirk didn't fuck with y'. All. Yeah, Charlie Kirk hated black people.

He did. He didn't. He thought black women were dumb. He's this the dude that says, if I get on a pilot, if I get an airline and the pilot is black, I'm second guessing being on the plane. Exactly.

I mean, this is. This is what I'm talking about. He said anti trans, anti gay, anti black, anti Muslim, anti Muslim, anti Semitic, pro Israel. That's often a combo that we see. Yeah, I think sometimes in the.

It's okay to hear both sides and he shouldn't be killed for his thoughts world that we kind of live in. And a lot of podcasters, frankly, have lived in and watched Rogan and Charlie Sheen talk about it. You're absolutely right. You should not be killed for your beliefs. However, it's not like his beliefs were.

I think that billionaires should be taxed less. Right. Or right even. I believe the second Amendment. Like, he had like, pretty radical racist theories and right speech patterns.

So bros hate speech. Yes, and that's my point. If you traffic in hate, things like this are going to happen. I just don't want us to encourage it because one that ball's gonna bounce back. I'm with you on this, by the way.

Yeah, and I know you are. I know you are. Jesse Waters from Fox News, as soon as this happened, jumped on and said, we have to avenge his death. Oh, no, that was the talk. Oh, now that's the talk from the Republican Party before they even caught homeboy.

They turned this into a political thing. They made him a martyr. They made the announcement, we're lowering the. The flags to have flags to have. Which is crazy.

Even the Yankees shouted him out on Twitter yesterday. Right. It's like, let's not forget who this person was. If Minister Farrakhan, God forbid, were to pass away tomorrow, I promise you, none of the sympathy would be. Chicago White Sox are not lowering flags.

Right. If people have strong beliefs that you agree or disagree with, engage it in the public square. But when the state gets involved, when you got the White House, you got corporate America acting now like, Charlie Kirk was Martin Luther King. Right. Well, apparently he played a large role in Trump's election.

Yeah, I'm sure he's a young podcaster. I guess so. He was probably. He's a strong voice. Yeah.

Influenced probably a lot of young people to follow some of these beliefs and ideologies. I didn't know who dude was. He's not in my hemisphere. It didn't take me long to find out who he was. Right.

And I recognized, once I saw some of the clips, I was like, oh, yeah, I do. I had no idea who he was. South park just spoofed him two episodes ago. Oh, really? It was a big thing when that happened.

I'm like, who the hell. So that's why. And they've taken that. Yeah, they pulled that episode. Oh, really?

They pulled it? Yeah. That's what I'm saying. People are. It's getting real funky.

And then the last piece of it for me is the political violence violence language. Right. Because whenever somebody. People don't like. I'm sorry, whenever people like somebody and that person dies, they start calling it political violence.

And it is. Right. If you're killed or attacked or assaulted to advance a political agenda or political message, that is political violence. I agree. What happened to Charlie Kirk was political violence.

But let's not act like it's only political violence when Charlie Kirk gets killed. People have watched protesters get killed. People watch protesters get murdered. People have watched an entire genocide in Gaza. That's all political violence.

What happens. And black lives matter in the streets. What happens to black people who are protesting the death penalty or workers rights? That is political violence. All state violence is political violence.

And yet somehow we can only muster that language when we talk about Charlie Kirk. Is Luigi's. Luigi's murder political violence? Absolutely. Okay.

Absolutely. And I'm asking why is that? Him getting shot political violence? Because if he was allegedly shot for an agenda, whose agenda was it? Because the individual that shot him is aligned, his family is aligned.

He is aligned in his ideals and principles with this specific person. I do think it's a little early to call it political violence, by the way. Yeah, until we know. Until we know the details, it looks like political violence. Absolutely.

Because he's a political pundit, that'll mean he got shot over a political. Like in violence. I mean, most people don't get snipered from 200ft while giving a speech. And it's not more than 200ft or 200 yards. 20 yards.

Excuse me, 20 yards. And it's not. But I agree with both of you, it could not be. According to the reports that have come in as recently as a few minutes ago, though, the shooter said that he didn't like Charlie Kirk because they thought he was fascist in his beliefs. Okay, so that's where the political piece comes in.

I got you. But conspiracy brain. Me say something totally different. I want to hear conspiracy brain. Of course, you say.

I mean, we've seen you. You get somebody in your. There's politics, isn't it? Violence in politics? Yes.

Yeah. Oftentimes. Yeah, yeah. There shouldn't be, but there is. Oftentimes.

No, it's gotta begin. An infiltrator, you get somebody that's in. I see. To make it look a different way. Yo.

Nobody can. Can convince me that them dudes behind him were not doing signals. I haven't watched the video. A lot of people are saying that they saw the hand signals behind. I didn't hear the puller, the air.

Nobody can convince me of it. I wasn't on board when it was just the one person to behind him doing it. Then I got the wide view. It wasn't just him. There were multiple people standing behind him doing shit that was obviously cues, but they could be accused to their own internal.

They could have been his bodyguards giving signals to his bodyguards in the crowd about something completely unrelated. Maybe. I'm not going to buy that. Because if this dude was that important, the dude that's on the roof is never hidden that well. Like, there were videos that, hey, somebody's up there.

Like, if this dude was really that important, whoever was there to secure him, should have secured him, should have checked the premises. They should have did all the shit that they did for Trump after. After the. Yeah, the ear thing, which was. And also, if you are a public speaker like that, you got to put.

They got to put you in the bulletproof. In the bulletproof glass. They gotta put you in a bulletproof glass. We interrupt the shooting at the college campus to report about the high school shooting. That wasn't crazy.

That was a real American ass day. That really was. The two students in Denver who were shot, fortunately they weren't killed, but think about that. That's crazy. It's also crazy that for three days this has been the biggest story in America.

It's all they talk about. And I mean, I know people don't care about global politics, but Israel bombed Qatar. They killed five people, which is an extraordinary act of political violence. We saw a school shooting in Denver. We saw violence.

I mean, I can name 10 other things that happened. I just can't believe that this is the only story we're talking about. And I know why they're talking about it. Cuz people are afraid if you traffic in ideas, you're afraid that if people start getting killed for their ideas, the whole thing can fall off track. And you're essentially dealing with that.

He's popular. Yeah. I was gonna say it's almost the death of a celebrity. Yeah. It might be some level.

It might be that. That simple. Because the Democrat. Two Democrats were shot, what, two months ago, one of them got shot in the House, right? Yeah.

Yeah. And no, not a peep. Not a peep, not a peep. And again, the writers like, oh, my God, this can't happen. It's like this always happens.

Y' all just only care what happens to y'. All. Flip. Let me ask you something, though, because people online have been tagging me about you. Yeah.

And I ain't responding to that. That's what I said. When we see each other, I want to hear what you were saying. You tweeted about it. Yeah.

And some people didn't like your response. What did you tweet and why did you. Basically, I was just saying that in a nutshell, because I don't remember the tweet, but I'm not as desensitized as everybody else is. All I saw was a man get shot in his neck. I didn't know too much about him.

I saw it and I saw people celebrating. And I was just saying that to celebrate a man getting shot in his neck like that. What happened to us as a people. That's all I was saying. I didn't know.

Then I did research after to see what he stood for, what he was talking about when it came to black people and black women. I read the airplanes bit that he said, or not bit, but about the airplane walking off still. I'm not desensitized like that. When I saw that. Talk about being a father, too.

Yeah. Father. A husband. I'm just saying, like, his children have to watch that and stuff like that. So that's all I was saying.

Not about the person. I just didn't want to see somebody getting shot in the neck and people celebrating somebody. I think that's fair. I think that's fair. That was my only stance.

I wasn't. I don't believe. I don't stand up or stand with what he believes in. I don't stand up for. I don't give a fuck about him.

It's just that particular part. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not. I'm.

I'm with you. I'm not celebrating death. Me either. Me either. That's not who I am.

But real quick, I see a lot of people saying, hey, why y' all give a about his kids? He ain't give a about you. Why y' all give a about him? He ain't gonna. I don't give a about none of that.

I just don't celebrate death. So somebody that's across the board. I agree with that. I got a few exceptions. But yeah, somebody.

But somebody wrote something and they said that Mark said the same thing. Not like how I said it. Mark said the same thing. What Flip said. But I think it's the messenger, right.

I think that how I said it. Like when you said you add a lot of caveats and you add a lot more details and you explain yourself. Well, to me, when I said it, it seemed like I was attacking people, but I was. I'm just saying, like, we have to look at ourselves while we celebrating this. That's all.

It's almost like you have to stipulate. Yeah. That he ain't shit. Before you say, I don't want him to get killed. And if you don't do that, then people think you are defending him or supporting him.

Exactly. And that's. See, I'm not even. But see. But it's.

Well, for me. I'm not saying I don't want him to get killed. I'm just saying I don't celebrate death. Yeah. That my spirituality won't let me go to bed.

My paranoia, my. There's a list of things. Yeah. I wouldn't be able to go to bed at night if I were happy about death. But I know.

And that's what makes me. Me and them. No, I don't make other people's feelings, actions and sentiments don't dictate mine. Yeah, true. Like, I'm not happy that he passed away.

I ain't losing no sleep, right. I think that's okay. I slept like a baby. Not a wink. I slept like a baby.

And when you start going back and you hear him talk about George Floyd, when you hear him saying black women lying about black women don't have a mental capacity to be taken taken seriously like that. It's like, yo, my. Which what you put out into the universe, I really believe this. It's cyclical and it's coming back. Yeah, I really.

I just believe manifestation. I believe that. I believe in what you throw out comes back. And. And sometimes if you're a amazing person, you're blessed beyond measure.

And sometimes if you're a piece of. Whether you get it when you older or you get it when you younger, it's coming back to you. And I believe that. Yo, listen, Ish. We love somebody, Mark, who speaks against a lot of things.

Right. And I wouldn't want to put that in the universe if something happened to our brother because of. Of his views. So I don't want to put that out there in the universe and celebrate that it's somebody. And I stand with Mark and what he believes in.

It's not radical like this, man. But there's some people out there. When you read about Mark's history, I'm pretty radical. Not radical at all. I'm just on the other side.

Yes. Palm me. Yes. It's not hateful. I think it's a difference.

But hold on. There's some people out there if you. They got. They got a whole Mark file. I don't see the Mark file.

Kirk made it. That guy. Some. Yo, I don't think it's fair to even play with Mark like this while we talking about this. I'm not putting him in the same.

But what I'm saying. I understand what you're saying. Yeah. I told Mark sent his little hot ass down when he first took this job. He want to go to a.

These campuses. Yeah. No, I love Mark. Mark is my brother. So I don't, you know, and I'm happy that he's here to explain what I mean.

I just don't want to put that in the universe or somebody with their views and like that, but I don't give a. About him. Yeah. Not at all. Yeah.

So. So. So that's it. I mean, we'll see how this plays out. They do.

Oh, I mean, pretty much. You want me. Come on. We not playing. Outstanding.

You've been in your bag lately, you know that. No, Baggy baby Don't start your.

I'm just saying. We never spoke about dude on this broadcast before. I barely knew who the he was. Just because they pumping him up don't mean I gotta sit here. Yeah, I mean.

Yeah, that's it. Sorry. I'm with Ish. The. The.

The tongue is powerful. Pause the wildest sentence, but it is powerful. The tongue is powerful. Yeah. Words have meaning, and them shits will come back.

Like you said, the ball bounces back. Yeah. So. Yeah. Nah, I'm careful in just what I say.

Yeah. Homeboy, though. Yeah. Yeah, man. That's all you got for us, Mark?

That's all I got for y', all, man. That's all I got for y', all, man. I just want to. I. I'm glad we did the Charlie Kirk, and I'm glad it was your idea. And I'm not being sarcastic.

When I came in, Joe literally was like, we got to get on the Charl Kirk. I'm saying that because sometimes the audience thinks that you. Like, I have to pressure you to do serious stuff or pressure to talk about important stuff. I want to be clear. You.

You very much want to have this conversation and that you think it's important. Shut up. Audience trying to support you.

Oh, we ain't even got a board.

He was so bad about the couch that we just got right this flush. Yeah. All gonna spin back, though. Yo, dog, they gonna spin back. What?

What do you think? He's conspiracy theorist. He think that. Who gonna spin back? Yeah, he did.

The Republican sent him. Listen, who wants. If. If quote unquote, they gonna spin back, and if all things are true across the board, who they gonna spend back to? Do you think he was intentionally made?

The truth. I don't think the truth matters right now as much as you think it does. I know, because I think they got the assailant. They still gonna. They're gonna make him trans.

They're gonna make him anti Christian. They're gonna make him. They're gonna make something that justifies. They gonna find something in his book bag in the bottom of his closet it. That has a democratic.

Or they're gonna load. Get a blue necktie. More mental health. Yeah, but even if you loan wolf on my mental health, it takes the blame off, right? Yeah.

No, they gonna. This is. They're gonna talk. This is the left's fault, no matter what. Yeah, yeah.

Is what I'm saying. Oh, it's gonna be antifa. Actually, it's pretty easy to find. Yeah. Yeah.

That's gonna be the argument that's gonna be the argument. And a lot of times these political assassinations and political deaths happen in waves, unfortunately. I mean, if you think about the 1960s, for example, I mean, if you just think about Kennedy dies, what, 63, Malcolm dies in 65, you got King in 68. I mean, forget you got Robert Kennedy, you got Medgar Everett. I mean, over this decade, lots of things happened and even.

And sometimes people were angry and retaliating for things that their side did. And so. And when you have the government involvement, to your point ice, where governments sometimes make it look like one person did it to stir up drama. Yeah. Now suddenly you got people fighting, having the firing squad in the circle.

So the right wants revenge right now. And they wanted it more when they thought it was, quote, unquote, us doing it. But I don't think the bloodlust goes away because this one kid happens to have a Republican family. I think it's quite possible that there's still, like, somebody's gotta pay for this. Absolutely.

For sure. And it's gonna be y', all. Right? Exactly. And that's why I think a lot of prominent speakers and a lot of prominent political pundits right now are saying, don't do that, y'.

All. Even on my side of the aisle, like, everybody calm down, cuz we're on the other side of this. MSNBC fired Matthew Dowd. Did y' all see that? Yes, I saw that.

I think that was another important thing. I actually wanted to know what y' all thought about that. For those who don't know, Matthew Dow is a very prominent political pundit, commentator, political strategist, has been really influential in major Democratic campaigns. He was an MSNBC political contributor. And I didn't think what he said was so crazy.

He told the truth, but you can't tell the truth depending on what network you work for. What did he say? No, depending on what you stand. He said that homeboy was divisive and a bunch of things that related to him being divisive. Okay.

Basically what we just said up here, very similar to what Ish just said and what Joe just said, right. Which is you put a certain thing out in the world, you can't be shocked when it comes back. He didn't like dance on his grave. He may have two stepped a little bit, but he was kind of like, you put this shit out, comes back the next day. Rebecca Cutler, who's the president of MSNBC or head, I don't know her exact role, I think president of MSNBC fired him.

Totally coincidental. Rebecca Cutler is the person who fired me at cnn. Total coincidence. But yeah, Rebecca fired. Fired him for that commentary, saying it was insensitive.

And this is a left wing network or a liberal network. So hypothetically, a lot of things that we thought are or look at as liberal networks have been a little. No, but the liberal networks be the pussies. That's true. Because the right wing networks, you can say whatever the fuck you want to say, and they going to back up theirs.

They not going to fire nobody. They going to stand and ride. The liberal networks be like, you can't do that, guys. We gotta take offense. Someone might be.

We gotta take the high road. And. And Whereas Fox News be like, yo, kill them all. Sort them out later. Like, they don't give a fuck.

Right. When you protest, they'd be like, suck a dick. Yeah, basically. Yeah. So that's what's funny, historically, right?

They look at the liberals as the pussies, but they putting all the violence on the liberals right forward. When I'm so glad I'm not in politics, me. And. And I mean, if. When I'm home alone in deep thought in my room, maybe we are in politics.

I mean, it plays a part because it affects us. Yeah, yeah, of course. But I ain't give a. I don't. I like a nice break from it, Charlie. I mean, they're all friends.

Is the like. Yeah, we the people get so left. Right. Blue, red, and they're all buddies. A lot of.

Yeah, I think that. I think that divide is growing too. If y' all found yourselves related. Bond related. If y' all found yourselves having killed somebody, do you tell your parents?

Like, would you tell your dad? No, probably not. No, I probably wouldn't. I'll try to tell nobody. If I had a close, close relationship with my father, I would.

But I wouldn't tell my mother. I wouldn't. My dad was different. My dad would have told. He would have told me.

Yeah, he was straight as an arrow. Not because. Yeah, like my godfather. I would tell him. He'd be like, yo, what are we doing?

You kind of can't tell anybody you love. Because that could implicate them. It would implicate them and they would go to jail. Yeah. Yeah.

I wouldn't talk to God, yo, what are you gonna do? I might tell my mom. Yes, you gotta do that. Some parents that help you hide the body. My mom would be more of the.

Like, she wouldn't help me hide the body, but she would go to her grave protecting me. You know what I mean? Whereas my dad would be like, I'd like to report an incident. Nigga, they can ask you. No one said anything.

Yo, what's your father ethnicity? He was black. He's from Georgia. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah.

He spoke with a very proper, educated Georgia accent. Did he respect the fact that he was a Mason and stuff like that? He knew that Mason. I said I was amazing, not that he's a Mason. Are you a Mason?

You said, I heard you were a Mason. It don't matter. If I were, I would keep the secret sacred and the sacred secret. My brother got it. Okay.

But my father was a Mason. Mason. Oh, my father was a Mason. I read that somewhere.

On. Knew another Charlie. This boy here. Yeah, on another one. Yo, I know I wouldn't tell if I had killed somebody.

I know I wouldn't tell if I just felt like going to Dunkin Donuts. Getting a donut if I had a cramp in you. Who you want? As soon as the mic come over. Where you get that glaze from, boy?

Yo, chocolate cream, boy. What's in your pocket there, boy? I'm afraid you about that. About that cruller. Yeah.

Come on, Ice. We better talk about Charlie Wilson. Let's do it. Charlie Sheen. Charlie Wilson.

Oh, another Charlie. We was going to Charlie Wilson. I mean, not Charlie Sheen. We was doing Charlie Wilson. I thought Charlie Wilson.

What happened? Charlie Wilson. What? What? Charlie Sheen did flip.

Why you want to talk about Charlie Sheen? There was a Charlie Sheen. Got it. Okay. We talk about the last episode before you.

Yeah, we talk about last episode. Yeah. No, we talking about Charlie Wilson because the. The concert was last couple days ago. Charlie's uncle Charlie's R B Cookout.

Charlie Wilson, KC Babyface, and Elder Barge. Wow. So when we first mentioned it, me and this was talking because he said Babyface was gonna be the headliner. Yeah. I'm like, nah, Charlie's gonna be the headliner.

It's called Charlie's Cookout. I said, you say what you want. Host. Baby faces on the grill. Baby faces on the grill.

So I can't confirm Charlie was a headliner. Oh, okay. My mom went. Your mom went as well, right? Had a blast.

It was. It was nice. My girl Asia went. A lot of people I know went, oh, okay. Yeah, My mom had a blast.

She told me Elder Barge stole the show, sang all of them under the road. Really? Yeah. I heard you saying, yes. Me and Ice, for the most part, got the exact same report.

Yep. I heard Elder Barge is still him and sung everybody out of the arena. I heard Casey might need to lay off the dope for a little bit. Yeah, I wasn't gonna say that. Cause his voice sounded like he did dope longer than El Deb Barge.

Looks like he did different draws. That's crazy. Her Baby Face came out and L was original adopter crack.

He had the good. I'm sorry. He chilled out from the sound of his voice. Yeah. Or he's just the most talented dude on earth, but.

And I heard that Charlie Wilson thinks he closed it. Oh, so. So it was Mr. Face, Mr. Edmonds. And listen, I love Uncle Charlie like the next man. Of course, the report I got was he came out with a little attitude, telling the audience, this is my cookout.

I brought all these people here. I don't care who comes out after me. But nobody. Nobody comes out after but you. It's Baby Face.

No matter where you put him in the show, he going is a hard out. Oh, yeah, for sure. He could open, he could close, he could go before the Closer. And if he goes, if he so happens to go before the Closer, crowd might get a little lighter, you might get a little thin. Even if they don't, you might need some rogue for the crowd.

Even if the crowd stay, it's just going to be a different. They're at the bar. So I heard that Charlie Wilson came out with his light up attitude, tight about some things. Telling the people that he's responsible for all these being here. Thank you.

And I attribute that to Baby Face coming on right before him tearing the house down. It's Meek Mills. Had a really nice boy bar. It is levels to this fam that Mr. Edmonds. And no disrespect, no disrespect to Charlie, Charlie or Nita.

Yeah, but what can you do with it? Why do people keep putting Baby Face before that? Yeah, I understand it. I understand it. It's just a mistake.

You can't. You can't always go by the paper. If you go by just what's on paper. Babyface's solo career may not be headline worthy, depending on if the Isley bro, whoever is here. Right.

However. However. Babyface, at his age and health and pen, with all the hits he wrote, his backup singers are amazing. He still sounds good himself. I went to Babyface show recently.

Yeah. I ain't never seen him not kill it. Me either. And like you said, it's the producer pin. Because when he does.

Can we talk? End of the road. End of the road. When he does the Bobby Brown joint. Yeah, when he does a whole entire soundtracks that he wrote that went.

Wait, that's him. What are we talking about? Yeah, yeah. No, it's true. Shout out to everybody that went to that show.

I am gonna go in a couple of weeks. I'm gonna go to. What's the one. It's coming. I'll be there.

The next show. Yeah, I mean the. The Queen's show. Gladys night now. Yeah, Gladys night.

I'm going to that one. I'm go. I need to see Chaka Khan curse somebody out. Yeah, Chaka Khan gonna come out there and tell the truth about how they acting backstage. A Shaka Khan interview for me might be up there with Quincy Jones.

Yeah. Gonna tell the truth about these hoes. Yeah, these hoes from the 60s. No, me too. Me too.

What else is important? What else is unimportant? What's going on? What's popping out there? I want to ask y' all why Timberland redid the message, but I'll wait.

I saw. Because it's not that important. I saw that sitting in there and I was like, I'm not even. What message? The message.

No, no, no, no, no. Not Mr. Mel. The message. Did he rap on it? Yes.

Not Mr. Lying. Not Mr. He uses AI. It's a cover.

He did the. The verse. He did the song. Now I won't lie. Let me not be phony.

When the beat came on, I was like. He smoked that beat. And then the rest of it. The rest of it happened. Can we hear it?

Yeah. Tell Parks, player, because I didn't purchase it. I didn't purchase it. So I explained it from my phone. It's out.

This is in the new music section. I thought he was just playing around on Instagram, but I couldn't. Couldn't get far because a man with a Tolchick reproduce my. Caught that message. Yes.

No. You know all the words. Do I? It was on your prom. That's the last rap song.

He knew the words too.

At my prom. Old. I was six years old. Vampire blood. He look good to be old, though.

Yeah, he look good. Look like 56. Six they said. Cuz Mel not here. His hair growing back.

My secret car.

See, I think that this is hard. Just this, but just this part of it, see? I'm going, I'm going. I'm out.

Turn it off, please.

Just bored. Turn it off, Tim. Chill out, Tim. Just bored, is he? Yo, that's just bored.

Ain't no verses no more. I ain't got to do Rich is out or what? Yeah, let Me just go up some classics I don't even like to beat.

I'm not sure how to think about this. That's disrespectful to hip hop. I do think it's interesting. Hip hop covers is an interesting thing. Cuz in every other form of music there's covers and there's not really in hip hop, except for reflipping a sample.

So it's an interesting concept. I don't think it's very good. I hate. I don't like the concept. Yeah, I don't know if I do either.

There shouldn't be hip hop covers. They shouldn't be hip hop covers because that's the covers. You don't change the lyrics. Don't you think that using covers would maybe lead to looking at our forefathers in a better light and extending the genre in the way that rock and pop and all these other genres use covers? Like, I think that.

Yeah. Yes, there is something potentially cool about it. Not for hip hop. I would need this originality. No, hip hop is built on the writing.

Whereas. Whereas rock, pop, R B, the singing is the skill. So Luther Vandross could take somebody's and re sing it, but I can't rewrite Mama said knock you out. You get what I'm saying? I'm not rewriting it.

So it's not really the. You know what I'm saying? That's my opinion. But I think. I never thought about the connection.

But I think what you're saying, it would definitely shed light on how dope Big Daddy Kane was or how prophetic KRS1 was. I think those things would be dope for the newer generation. I just don't know how we pull it. Maybe tweak them. I don't know how we pull it off or just re.

Or just redoing the song itself. Like for example, for keep the hook and rework. Yeah, like. Like, oh, that's on Doggy style. Snoop did Lottie Dottie over.

Right? You know what I'm saying? It's. It got to be something like that. That was fire.

He does. That was fire. Yeah, I forgot that it got to be that way. Listen, I didn't. I ain't seen no song bring together like up.

Hey, look at you. Like the Juice World Sting joint. Yeah, yeah. With the N Ref flip. Yeah.

Shaping my heart. Nas, the message. The Juice World. My mother loved that. Now I don't want to hear him do the Nas verses, right?

No, that was the one that. I never heard it. Yes, you did. Yes, you did you definitely heard? You just don't know.

You heard it, cuz you 75 years old. But you heard it is. Where you going tonight? You got your multi purpose outfit on. Lucy Dreams.

That's the Lucy Dreams. Oh, I know. And my man got a. Where you came from? Where you going tonight?

Wait, hold on. Stop. He got a band on his hand. What? VIP section.

Show me the band. You just came. VIP Show.

I need a knife. Yo, VIP I love Flip. I love him. A VIP Body straight to work.

Why you got. Oh, so you're saying this is last night's on last night. Oh, I slap you go home. This ain't tonight's outfit at all. We had it backwards.

We did. It's got the VIP B. It's a T shirt and jeans after the show. Where you was at at the party? This complex event.

Oh. Oh, I know. Can we say what it was? Build your get away. Y' all heard that joint was tough, though.

It was tough. Yeah. That was Kyrie's joint, right? No, it's tonight. Which one was it Karisha today?

Oh, which one was you at Complex? Oh, I didn't know if it was something. No. Why you asking my man question? You heard what he said, nigga, right?

Complex is all we need to know. So you showered with that thing? Yeah, I don't. Who walking around with a knife to cut the. I forgot.

Literally. It's so coincidentally. Yeah, that's the mother. It matches your jacket, too. You body that.

This ain't that. You body that fit. A T shirt and jeans. Wait, are you wearing that out tonight? Like to let the know I was somewhere.

I was there. I was there. Yo, I was at the car complex joint while y' all shouting out Kyrie, we gonna get into this price fix. But I do want to shout out Derrick Rose. He sent me a really fly invitation to his Jersey Rising thing that they're doing in Chicago.

Oh, yeah. In a couple. He said like a rose. I meant to post. It's fire.

Congrats to him for getting that. Yeah. Derrick Rose is a different generation's Allen Iverson. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

True. Yeah, I'll go with that. Yeah. No, he is. Derek Rose is tough.

Shout out to D. Rose. Yo, get the scissors when I do this. Give me a knife. You can throw me a knife. Scissors.

Don't throw the. Throw me a knife. Yo, don't end it. That sounds crazy. Don't take it over yet, though.

Throw me a knife. Cory, throw. You gota let him pop with the. You gotta let him do the whole. If Cory throw you a knife, he's good as dead.

That murk me with a water bottle, dog. Look at Cory from floating around. He ain't got no legs. No. What if he missed?

He gonna do stab me? No. Stab me. Don't you know? I know.

They keep getting up ricochet like now. You was outside. You didn't go home. What you mean? Because that white tea was from the store.

I know that white tea. That white tea too, crispy boy. That's from the back. You keep a three pack, boy. You keep a three pack in the trunk.

Flip. Yeah. You didn't go. I was trying to do that. I was at home.

So go home, nigga. What's wrong you, bro?

Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. I love black people. Watch this. Be a white producer. All right, it's time for my favorite part of the show.

Prize psych. Me and Ish are shooting at each other. That's my real favorite part of the show. Don't. I don't want.

Now, who has copped More, please. More? You've never seen me cop a plea. Ah, yo, you always got to insert yourself in grown man business.

You see me cop a plea, Cheyenne, Brian had you up there copping. Please, boy. That's a fact. Before. Before I got the receipt, before you went up there, we were discussing about when you.

When she comes up here, what you were to do, going to do. That was the plan. Yo, when she come up here, da da, stay there. And what did Antoine say? You said, I'm not gonna say what you said verbatim because I don't wanna.

But you know what you said. I'm on it. I want you to tell I'm ready when she. She can't with me when it comes to these topics. That's what you said right here.

Walking. I swear. I know. Even before that you said, nah, we here now. Every.

Everything that you go on is not an antagonistic thing. Just because we said the toxicity out for the universe, okay? I don't got to go on a platform and have an argument with somebody. That's what we saying is. That's not what you saying.

We saying you was mad agreeable. I wasn't. We are saying the same thing, yo. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I was doing.

Yo, this is stupid, bro. You a different. I liked it, though. This. You got to wait till the beat drop.

When the beat drop, that's when my hand starts dancing to the meat. You know this part? I don't agree with you, we would pot a lot better if when we called you on your. You would just say, you know what? Y' all got me.

And maybe that applies to me, too. What? Maybe that applies to me, too, but we be having you a lot. I feel like I never said I was going to go to a platform and argue with Cheyenne Bryant. No, you didn't say.

I'm not saying. What are y' all talking? We saying you was a sucker. All right? We ain't trying to dress it up for you so you can have your word back.

Call me with you. You went over there and agreed with what the young lady was saying, and I agreed with what she was saying, cuz she was. You know, I mean, was there anything you disagreed with that you. That you didn't push back against? We did my.

We had 36 minutes on the stage, okay? So I tapped her. I was like, go on, you boy. You lucky cop. And a plea.

That's what she laughing and said, let's do it. Where I'm from, that's. We didn't have no time. But that's a plea debate. And you said she wanted.

She wanted the moments. She like the viral moment, not like the. No, I tapped. I said, yo, you saying some. And she was like, what?

And I said, man, we could go viral right now. She said, let's do it. And you said it, right? No, I looked at the clock. It was six minutes left.

So it wasn't no time. She like six minutes. A lot of time. No, she was like. No, you was there.

Stop acting like you wasn't there. I saw it, so shut up. Then act like I got up there and copped the plea to you was just too. You was gone. And how.

You driving Ms. Brian.

Yeah, way too down. Ms. Brian. She was cool, though. I can see how she was cool. Let me just say this.

No, she won you over. Hold on. She didn't win. She won you over. Hold.

Wait, wait. Before they got on stage, she disarmed you. Yeah, you were. You can see how Char. I watched her.

She was mad cool. I didn't even speak to the lady before we got on. I did not speak. That's not true. I know.

Before. I'm talking about before we went on the stage. I did not have. Have five words with this woman in the front of the stage. Yes, and you jumped on her dick on stage.

I didn't jump on anybody's nothing anywhere. I did not speak to her before we went on stage. Flip is lying. My last question. I'm not.

I'M not basing my questions on flip, yo. You're just sitting here lying. All right, so in the front of the screen, in your opinion, it was Mandy who talking to my fault. In your opinion, you didn't jump one dog. Cheyenne Bryan's dick.

That's my final question. Yo, Aki, stop your bro. There you have it. Some people look cool, though. Some people, they disarm you with their beauty, with their knowledge.

I've never been around a pretty woman before in my life. They all disarmed you. No, they haven't. They all disarmed you. Don't tell you I'm here.

I ain't just talking to him. You've been disarmed. And beauty is her name.

Let's not act like we that machismo in here. Here. We all been disarmed. We have. Let's.

Let's do that. I identify. I'm not trying to clown you, but. I said we have for a second. I said we have.

Yeah, we going too crazy now. We be disarmed. I think you might lose your gun before me, but it's cool. I'm not going to do this again. You're right.

I love my girl. Look. That's it. Look. Yeah.

Y. Yep. And it's time for. Yep. Lies pigs. Lies pics.

Wow. Oh, okay. It's my turn. It's my time. Yes, sir.

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Anything we need to tease each other about that's not written down? Like. There's nothing written down on me in music. We got a Young Thug. We got a Young Thug record and we got a Glorilla Diss track that may or may.

But I don't real. I'm not putting that on her. Gorilla makes better music than that. I hope this is fake. I hope it's AI.

But it was a Mariah Scientist and Young Thug diss track. And here, let's hear a little bit young.

I hate the Is it real? Is it fake Error. But it ain't just music. This Go for everything.

I'm about to go do a deep looking at. About to drop.

This is not very good. No. I don't know that it's AI though. Though it doesn't feel AI ish or somebody imitating her. I'm not putting that on her.

AI do that accent. Yes. Yeah, it probably could. Yes. But the flaws in it don't sound AI flawed to me.

I'm hoping it's a bad song. Yeah, I think it's. Whatever it is, it probably was not intended to be released. Maybe. Maybe playing around or something.

It leaked out. Yeah, it's still funny. It's funny. It's just. Hey, I ain't judging whether it's good or not.

We ain't trying to sell records off dog. Mariah design.

Oh, definitely. Looking ass tight ass pants. Looking at a snake now. Wayne home grandma. What?

Looking at it. Water man. Looking at it. Freak ass froggy.

Y' all crazy. It's some funny. I don't know. Hilarious.

Whoop. Goldberg all right, Come on. All right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right. I mean, you know, clowning and jokes. I hope it is her.

I hope it ain't. I hope it's her. You think she's better than that, huh? Yeah. Yeah.

I don't think you always got to be good. Good. What you mean?

There's nothing to come. There's nothing good coming from. Let me dis thug and Mariah the scientist. If you're Glowrilla, who's already on top of the world, like it's a moment to be funny. No, she just had having many Billboard charting like she's.

She's having fun a year her. And she got smart people behind her. So they would say, that's why I don't. So that's the reason why we're not doing this. We're not.

We're not doing this. If you want to do something on some play, play skit type. And again, I don't know if this is fake. AI real, I don't know. But Glorilla's brand, I like.

I like Glorilla's brand responding like that because that's Glorilla's brand. I'm the hood ratchet from Memphis. And yeah, I like some clown. And yeah, yeah, I like it. I do.

We got some Doug Up. I did like this. I like a lot. This song was hard, but I ain't never heard this do so much whining.

The put it on the track, the hurt. For real. That's what we all took from the interview, is that this nigga's really hurt.

All this is hard. This is hard. Nothing I can say. This is horrible.

This is fire. The song is seven minutes long, so we're probably not. Yeah, but we gotta let. We gotta let him get some off, though. Story lanes rock.

Hey, Story Lane.

We gotta get a beat drop.

It's kind of a long intro, if I remember. It is. It's a long intro. It's dope, though. Sorry.

And then anytime I thought the beat was going to drop. Nope. He just kept going.

Not to bring him up. If Drake had this, this, this. If any Drake song started like this, right now, it's a rap. Rap. It will be a rap.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, God. Hey, wait a minute. Hey. And what a way to announce your album.

That's hard. This.

Baby, I'm sorry. One of my biggest fears is losing you to the Internet. Waking up in now bed with you right by my neck saying don't you break a sweat feel Talking ain't my game. Pillow talking. Ain't my name talking to me.

Is it still pillow talking if it's on a jail phone call? Yeah. Young thug, you be pillow talking. Hey, pause this for a minute. Yo, you be pillow talking.

We heard it's been released. Released, right. It's out there. It was released so much that the jail stopped it. They said, all right, enough.

We put. It's too many vocals out there. We. We can't you be pillow talking. Nothing wrong with it.

And you sound like you pillow talk with the best of them. Yeah, you give it up anytime. You was pillow talking. Mariah the scientist didn't sound surprised. You better leave with her, Mariah.

He was doing so much pillow talking. Yeah, it was like the Fat Joe Khaled interview. Yeah, it was one sided, man. Now we gotta. Now you gotta come home and clean it up.

Clean it. Yeah. Now you gotta clean it up. It clean it up. Look at these.

Bashing me like Jesus, cuz I made it. Look at all this we been through. Baby crying in Mercedes. A jail call. I was playing.

I never tra. You was encouraging me on my bad days. You picked the kids up despite me being away. That's why every day you wake up, I'm trying to make you happy. I'm sorry for being a part of these hoes laughing at you.

I'm sorry for taking you from. Yeah. Just to put you through this madness. On the reason you crash. That's an awkward one.

That whole part is awkward. Chicks be like, yo, you ain't gotta. You know, it's like more embarrassment publicly. Yeah, well, he ain't the best rapper if we gotta understand every word he's saying.

See, this is what we want right here. Yes, sir. This is what we want right here.

You know, I ain't going against you. I got brothers. Everything you did for the. Wait a minute.

For the jail call, you know the other calls we had trying to get you Metro, if you on the same page, the Internet don't know about it. Cause real don't say real do. And I learned that from you. We had our own differences, but cash came through and got us on the phone. Like, why you a cash beefing?

He got us on the phone. He pulled up to my home. Ever since y' all niggas differences, it never passed on. It's darkness every day. I called Metro on the phone and told him, let it go.

God damn, that is hard. That's hard, yo. That's hard. That is. This is what I want.

Yeah, I mean, the podcast was great. Too, by the way. But this is a great follow up to that interview. It's a great way to clear up. Well, all them leak calls and all of that.

Like, yo, y' all know how we really talk. Like, and, and I'm talk to y' all publicly, right? So that the. So that the public can hear. Yeah, yeah.

You know I'm saying vulnerable. Yeah, I with it. Yeah. I like a rapper. I like a rapper going deep about what he's.

What they're going through. Yeah, me too. While they're going through it every time. Like, don't come tell me 18 months after the fact. I love this.

I love this. Yeah, same. Even with whatever I may not love about it. I love it. It's hard.

I, I, I respect it. Like, like you said the. That I don't. Like, I don't even care. Or like the fact that he just bared his soul on the track to everybody.

Yeah. My family, my peoples, my girl, my everybody who felt like I did y' all wrong. Here it is. I'mma address it publicly and sound sincere in the tone and all that. Yeah, yeah.

But you can't say all that and then go say that you want to have babies with the girl that your girlfriend or already fought in the club who she caught a case over. Like, I tried to tell y' all last part. So now you get on the soul mama here, too. Draw. Oh, I can't believe I almost lost.

You gotta get it back. You encouraged me while I was feeling down. I was unhappy. Yes. That's what I was saying.

And. But here come the jail tough guys. Yo, let me ask you. Or he had to stay alive. Get the out of here.

Let me ask you a question. Get the out of here with this. Enough of this. I don't know enough. Yo, and listening to it because we don't know when that jail call occurred with that girl.

That sounds. We know when the fight occurred. When did the fight occur? It's online. When.

No, what I'm saying is I listening back. I think that call might have been first. That call could have led to the fight. Some like that could have happened. Happened.

That girl sound like she ain't spoke to Thug before. Really? That might be like, her first or maybe second third conversation with him. How geek. She was on the phone.

And now my girl found out whatever. Or she's so extra with came in and seen the list. She's sitting here showing he caught that list. But that chick on that phone sounded like she would want it to be known that she's Talking to him. So now you got these Internet games played.

Now my girls see you like that. We could have had that order backwards. Yeah. Oh, now you playing. You disrespect me?

Okay, cool. Listen, man, women have killed. Cheating is over. If you're cheating. Stop it.

You're headed down the wrong path. And you're doing the wrong thing. Yes. For real. They say we always joke around about cheating and escorts and all types of shit.

It's not good. Let's take a moment to kick the truth and respect your family. Let's take a minute. Honor your family. Exactly.

Your children. You are a representation of them. Yep. Even when they are not around. Pick the person that you're most happy with, that you love, that you enjoy spending time with.

It makes you happy. Support your. Your ideas, your movement, your business endeavors. The person you confide in. Talk.

And then ride out. All that cheating. Unfaithful. All that cheating. Me.

Especially after a certain age. Age. Put it to rest. What it really says about you is that you lack discipline. Yeah.

You lack maturity. Yep. That's right. You're lacking in certain areas.

You lacking fun. Respect your queen. Respect your family. That's right. And that's always.

And that's from us to y'. All. And that's from us to y'. All. Music better get your bars off.

Yeah, man. Listen, you should start, right? That'd be dope. Yeah. You still got one?

I do. It's in a box. Let's do it. Hooba.

Who? Box. Oh, yeah. I'm happy you said that. Stop this.

What you just said about my family. Nick. What I did. I wouldn't dare say nothing about your family. I love you.

You lost your mind. I love your family. He loves your family. On my dressing you a idiot. What?

I was supporting you. What else needs our attention in music? Yeah. I had a music question for y'. All.

What's up? True. I was listening to the new Kwame album. Okay. Because I wanted to.

I love how much you love Kwame. Cause I love Kwame. Yeah, I do. And the 12 year old in me wanted this to be like a five mic, amazing comeback album. And the album's fine.

I mean, it's not a bad album, but it sounds like a little bit. And Kwame is an amazing producer. He makes great music. I guess the question is, when older artists make music, what's the blueprint for a successful record? Getting up with somebody that's going right.

I don't think there's a blueprint for a successful record. I don't believe that. Okay. Say more like so. So a rapper who we admire, we love it says Joe Budden Parks.

I'm coming out right now with a new record. What are some things you're at least thinking about for them to make the record successful? Because you don't want them to sound like the kids, but you also don't want it to sound like it's 87. Six again. I'm not.

I'm not. I don't want to music nerd us out. I. I'm hearing this differently. It's a case by case. I would ask what that person deems as success.

Okay. There is no across the board definition of success. I thought LL's last project was a success. I thought that was an amazing album. He sounded his age, he sounded current, but he didn't go far from his roots.

That's what I was looking for. Okay. He didn't. He didn't look to be somebody else. And he connected with his base no matter how old they were.

I thought that was successful. Okay. You know, if L came out trying to hit top 20 on the Billboard, even if it hit it, it might be weird. I wouldn't look at that as a success. Although it depends.

I mean, if he did the. It can be done, but it could be awkward if you tried to rap over, like, Modern, I guess. Yeah. If he looked like he was trying to. To do that.

Trying to be little baby. Yeah, that was sound. That was. That was. That was down the way, you know, who's pretty good at doing that.

But he don't really get the credit, Buster. When, like, his last two projects he dropped were good projects. He don't get the commercial success and the Billboard and all of that. But it sounds like I'm still being me today. I think a better example for me would be Fat Joe.

Fat Joe. What was it? I don't even know. I mean, it's been a while since he had another hippie. He's probably got.

I'm just talking about project checks. I don't remember his last. I'm just talking about, like, he always managed to get one out. That's dope and doesn't sound like it's trying. It sounds modern, but it doesn't sound like it's trying.

All the Way up was the last one. I mean, like, commercial success. No, that was his last hit. That's last hit. But that Joe has released.

He's released music. Yeah. Fat Joe knows how to make music. Yeah, he does. Yeah, you can hear that a lot of it's.

Production too. Like getting good music and like executing it well. Especially from like Legends. It really is hard to listen to a legend over like really bad production, really bad mixes. That's what I like about a lot of times.

That's what I like about Rakim's last album. Okay. I was like, it's. It found, it's. The.

The sound was a little dated to me and it just wasn't great production. I know some of it he did, which is why he. He put it out. I was like, I wish he had gotten some support on that. Whereas, like when Tribe made their final album, it was like a masterpiece.

Partly because of the lyrics, but also because it's. It's top flight production with llc. To me, what I loved about is not just the raps is that he wasn't chasing hits, but he did have a modern sound. Like it still sounded like the album came out in 2024. Yeah, right.

You know what I mean? Which is different than some people who, who don't split the difference. Well. And the last Woo album was like that. So I'm always trying, but then I see so many people swing and miss.

And while we naming all these old. I mean, Nas, I was just. I was waiting for him to stop. I was gonna say Nas kind of set a blueprint for that almost. And I've got with a current producer right where I could still be me.

The key important part is still managing to be you. Like sometimes you hear people trying to be like, like, like it's just said if he's trying to be a little baby, it ain't going. It ain't going to resonate. Right. It also depends on how distinctive of a sound they have because we got a new Mob Deep record today and it sounds like a Mob Deep record.

You know what I'm saying? Like, if you have that distinctive a sound, just give us your sound. Stronger than ever.

I'm back.

It's against the world.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, New York is just one crumb on the map. One crumb ain't a lot. You happy with that piece? I'm gonna need that pie to satisfy my thirst Pacify my greed Blood money and power Invader Turn me to a monster like this sounds like a Bob Deep or Prodigy record.

You know what I mean? Like, it doesn't sound like it's weird. It don't sound like you're trying to be something you're not. Right? Right.

So if you have that distinctive sound, I think just staying with that kind of distinctive sound is Important. I don't think there's anything wrong with them getting put. Going into camps with the younger artists but still keeping a sound, but seeing how they could be able to adapt to if. If you can do it successfully. Yeah, yeah.

See nothing wrong with that. Listen, I don't with Tekashi at all. However, if Shotty and them was standing behind him during his little Young Thug this out of here. I didn't know that happened. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

This is dog. Y' all lucky that we don't with this.

There's a chorus on this.

Oh, I think that's the chorus.

Oh, that's the chorus. Water didn't really love that chorus, but I see what they're trying to. I see what he was doing with it. Yeah, I like. I don't comment on him either.

That might have been my first time commenting on him since 2018. Oh, my God. But I heard it was like, this little motherfucker can make a song. Sometimes you gonna run into somebody you just don't fuck with at all. You just gotta.

God damn it. He can put it together. Yeah, he can put it together. He's just him. So it's over.

There was a tweet floating around that I wanted to ask you gentlemen about. This is from a gentleman named the Black Sheep who says dress shots. No, this is not dressed. But shout out to him. It might be dresser.

Let me check. No, this is paid in full. Will be developed into a TV show. Another show about drug dealing, killing, and degeneracy. Yay.

The community will champion this and in the same breath, be tired of slave movies, though.

I think it's.

I thought it spawned an interesting conversation. I think. I think in the inner cities of America, we can relate to. Yeah. Drug deal industry.

A lot of saw this. Yeah, we saw it. A lot of people identify with it. Nobody lived a slave life, so it's something that's unrelatable to a of lot. A lot of people, like, you read it in historical context, but you didn't see it.

You don't visually or emotionally tied to it, like, had uncles that was in the streets or aunts that was getting high or brothers that went to jail or was doing those things. So some of that takes you back to a time period that we actually lived. So what you're saying is you understand one being romanticized. No, I just think the relatability piece is what allows people to say, say, okay, cool, where's the slave? Because you said that we said, yo, we tired of slave movies, which I don't Say, but we're tired of slave movies.

I think people don't necessarily relate to the slave movies. And not just that. And a lot of these, you know, paid in full power, all of that. They make the drug dealer look like the hero. True.

The winner. True. Like, ain't no winner. Ain't no black winners in slavery. In slavery.

Nat Turner. But they don't. In the slave movies, they don't make it look like they're not lifted up as, what, drug dealer in power. No, I'm just saying that the ghost was a fly. I mean, during the show.

Yeah, during the show. Fly, nice Penthouse, moved around and stealth kind of dope way. So. But do you think that there are parallels between the content that y' all are referring to and the slave content? I don't think that's what the question.

I'm sorry. Outside of them both. No, no, no. Outside of them both being. I can say.

Because what they say about the slave movies is we tired of here. We tired of saying is. Is we trauma. We continue to let these companies and these white people tell our story, which is the same story of slavery. Slavery, slavery.

How they depict us and why they depict us that way is to keep us programmed to be subservient whole. Stay there. So, but when you think that there are parallels between that and. Because I think when you see ghosts, you see the opposite of that. Like, if you see a slave movie and you see these being subservient, being whipped, being all of those things, and then you see Omari Hardwood putting on a tailormade suit, walking outside looking like.

Yeah. So I think he won. It looks like. It looks like he won until the end. So I don't.

I don't think the two are parallels. I think they both could be detrimental to. To our communities. But I just think that it's different. I think one is relatable and one is not.

And so I think that's why niggas welcome that. But is it the same result? Like, in listening to y'? All? One is dressed up, so it's pretty, but the result is jails, deaths, and institutions.

Yeah, I think the drug one is more dangerous. Please expound. Cause I mean, first, I get why people are. For some of the reasons they're saying, but go ahead. Yeah, exactly.

I mean, people are drawn to heroes, right? Everybody wants to see themselves as a hero, and drug dealers are heroes, and we love outlaws. I mean, that's what made Blaxploitation so great, is that you got to see niggas was Beating people up, doing karate. Beating up white people. Beating up white people.

They were winning. Whatever winning looks like to you. And that's why we love the drug dealer, because there's agency in it. I get to determine my own destiny. I get to create my own path, and I get to, quote, unquote, win.

I think the problem with the slave movies, quote, unquote, is not that people are enslaved. It's the kind of stories we tell. If we start showing. Making movies about people enslaved, sneaking to teach people to read, overcoming their oppressors, you know what I mean? Developing religious practices, making new cuisines.

You know, there's different kinds of stories about slavery you could tell where we would be heroes in it. We don't tell those stories. And I think, to the point, Hollywood doesn't want those stories told. They want us to. They want us to believe that we had a history that started with slavery, not a history that was interrupted by slavery.

And so that that's why they tell the story that way. I think these stories have a greater sense of empowerment attached to them. But the problem is that the reason I say they're a greater detriment. He read that little line somewhere. He smoked that line.

He might have wrote that line, you know, that's Miz we talking about. That's you, that's you. Y' all will learn the truth. Interruption, yo, see, here you go. You got a pamphlet on you.

What do you say? Say it one more time. Slavery started our history. Didn't start our history, just interrupted our history. Yeah.

Nah, that was. That was fire. That was a bar right there. You smoke that, man. But if you think about, like, the problem with the drug dealer movies is you walk away feeling in power.

Like, yo, I could be this person, that person. I can control my own destiny. But then you start to believe the drug dealing is a real path out, and it's not. I mean, for 99% of the people, you end up incarcerated. And you lose sight of the fact that you're killing the whole community to do it.

And we romanticize the drug dealer and demonize the drug addict. You know what I mean? As if. You get what I'm saying? As if they're not connected.

You can't have one without the others. So when you had that kind of relationship, it's even more dangerous to meet in the slave movies. So I'd rather see ten slave movies than ten drug dealer movies. Well, that's where I jump off. But I agree with your points before that.

At that level, I'm saying At the level of if I had to pick one, I think we can do both. I don't dislike. I mean, I love all the movies, but if I had to pick one in terms of what's gonna do less harm to us, I'd rather us learn about the history of slavery than have a bunch of Nino Browns.

There you have it. And I think. I don't think that's just applicable to us with regards to the drug dealing movies and because we praise white movies tremendously. All of the white movies that worship drug dealing, guns, organized crime, violence, everybody, Godfathers in everybody's top 10. Love heat, niggas love Casino.

Niggas love all of these movies. When a white person is being portrayed as the quote, unquote, gift, gangster or bad guy, we give them critical acclaim. When we are being portrayed as the quote, unquote bad guy, we look at it with a. With a. With a skewed view.

I think that. I think that takes the conversation elsewhere, because there are no white slave movies. I know. No, I said that's took away the slave piece. I'm talking about just the gangster.

If you take away the slave piece, then we. Yeah, we love. We. We love all the movies. If you take away the slave piece.

I think the point. But they don't look at them like they detrimental. They don't look at Godfather like it's detrimental. They don't look at Heat like it's detrimental. They don't look at Casino like it's detrimental.

You understand what I'm saying? These niggas was killing niggas, burying them in the desert. We don't look at. We like, oh, that's fat. Hit the nigga with aluminum whack.

Like, we look at it in it with a different lens. That's what I'm saying. Again, I think that because my man's question wasn't really about that. He just saying, why do we look at one like, we tired of these, but we look at these like we can't get enough of these. You got a point?

Because I'm sitting there thinking like, Breaking Bad is a lot of people's one of their top TV shows, and you don't look. You don't look at it that way. You don't look at it like they sell white dude teacher selling love. Ozark. Ozark, yeah.

They was committing every crime in the book in Ozark. And niggas don't look at his relatability. Yeah, it's just all about relatability and what you want to be or become. Like you go outside and you see these people, all the drug dealers that you know in your life or that you watch Nice cars, women, you know, that thing. So you like to watch somebody come from poverty.

And in the end, even though we don't think about what happens at the end, we don't think about the jail. Just to see once they make it. We just. We like the steps, we like the pattern. Flash it and then that.

Oh, yeah, I want that weed. It's short term sites. The show Weeds on Showtime was a white suburban bitch that started hustling, selling weed. And I think we far away from the point of this tweet. I think it's progressive, the conversation.

Yeah, I think we just moved the conversation. But I. To homeboy's point was we shunned one, but we prayed. Move it to. Where we moving it to?

I'm with y'. All. Y' all naming the fire white shows. That's on bullshit. But those are the people that they are the people that are also responsible with the telling of their story and the white whitewashing of ours.

So those people would be allowed to be whatever they want to be. Because we're going to change the curriculum in the school. We're going to change the. The heroic firefighter. Firefighter that was at 9 11.

We're going to make him white. We're going to. We going to. We going to paint our story so we could be all of it. Y' all can only be the slaves.

And this bullshit. How do you think that a black. So I don't think. Yeah, I think we've. How do you think that a black producer would tell a drug dealing story, A story about a drug dealer?

Seen it. Look at New Jersey. But I'm saying the power is black people. But how was that? It's not different.

You're saying that it's different, right? You're saying that compared. When white people tell it. No, I think he said white people get to tell a multitude of stories as far as themselves or telling themselves. He used the word whitewash.

Our story. Yeah. So they take to me and I don't wanna speak for Joe, but for me it's that white people. I don't wanna say white people. Cause it's not the point.

The power structure. Yeah, yeah. Represents black people in a very narrow stream of ways. Yes. Whereas whiteness gets a wide range of representation.

So a white person has the luxury of being a drug dealer or a suburban school teacher that cooks crystal meth or Jersey Shore. Because when I think of. I Don't walk into a room, meeting Parks for the first time and think, yo, you probably like that dude from Jersey Shore. Yeah. But when people come from across the world and walk here and see y' all dressed the same way you're dressed, you know, look at all of us.

They might think you're like the people from power. Because there's a very. Because TV represents blackness in such a narrow stream of ways, as violent, as irrational, as immoral, as hypersexual. Like, that's how blackness gets represented. So for me, the issue isn't that drug dealing gets put on tv, it's that that's the only story that's not true.

What happens is. Well, just let me finish the thought. I'm sorry. That's the only story that gets told. Whereas white people.

No one associates the the Godfather with everyday white people. Well, to be fair, I do have one slight return is like when I first moved to Astoria and I saw the old Greek and Italian guys walking around on the street, hanging out all day, drinking coffee in a suit. I was like, is that my man from the wife?

Respect. Fair enough. Fair enough. I, I, I a thousand percent agree with you that the representation. They look at that as a minority.

Yeah, right. If you see Tony Soprano, that's a minority. That's not an everyday white person. I think what happens is, and some of this is our fault, that when, when we put out product that shows black people in another way, we don't support it. So it gets canceled.

It'll get a season, it'll get a pilot, it'll get some shit. And the numbers don't test well. Or nobody goes to the movie to see the photograph. Nobody goes to the movie to see other quality. I missed a hell of a movie movie.

I saw it. No, for the people that didn't. Oh, yeah, like, so nobody will go support that. So now it's not encouraging to keep putting out quality products. I don't like that narrative necessarily either.

Because movies like Was it Moonlight and if Beale Street Could Talk or not. That they're not gangsta. There's not. And they didn't do crazy. They went to the, they won Oscars and like, listen to this.

But that's another conversation. I'm a. Attacking the power structure before I attack the support at that. No, no, but that, but that lends to them allowing this money be a lot of part of the. We can agree with that.

That's if you're giving money is the benefit of the doubt. No, true. Money is a motivator. And that's the. That's the conspiratorial group.

Yeah, I think it's both. Fam. Go ahead. Black Panther made money. A lot of it.

A lot of money. So we said, you know what? The blacks did that get his Spanish as a trial in part two. Fam. Money talks my.

So we could say whatever we want to say. If we support black, hopefully, God willing, they'll be more inclined to put more black on TV. We ain't have a Love Jones in 30 years. Best man. All of these movies we don't have.

It's. It's. We could do the. You're right. I mean, the.

I just watched something on HBO about black television. I watched something on HBO yesterday about black television. When they showed all the black shows at one point. They just took them all off of television at one point. And like, when the black show.

So they were saying that. I think it was Fox or had Sister Sister. And when the show was doing good and when they started to get it rolling and they. They got the NFL, so they moved Sister Sister to a new channel, which was the wb. So they would explain the things that.

How to use black television to. I don't. Build up a network. Build up a network. And then it was much more than just black.

Channel nine, you talking about. I seen the clip. There's a few clips of this. All the times that black people have saved a white company. Yes.

Oh, yeah. Yes. And there was a long list. That was crazy Cadillac. I didn't know that black people save Cadillac.

Then there's another joint going around. The five most popular cultures in America. And blacks were number one. Well, duh. Duh.

But that was real interesting. One and two. Two was ill to me. It was two. Japanese.

Japanese. Really? I can see that. And then they listed. Somebody Google this and find it.

I can see that. Because underneath, they were saying all the things in America that are from this ramen. They named ramen. Yeah. Cuisine would be.

I would put meditation. Oh, yeah. They said minimalism. Okay. They said, like, there was so much that I didn't even connect to that.

I think. I think Latin culture would be bigger because I remember when we started, I would put them second personally. But that's just me. When I was in Europe for a month on tour, you know how 10 years ago, the biggest thing I was. I was like, yo, you don't really realize how ingrained certain aspects of Latin American culture are in our lives until you're completely without it.

Because they have Spain. Spain. They don't have. Yeah. True Latin culture.

You know what? That's a New York. That's a real New York thing. Because that may be true. When you go like to the Midwest, when you, like, we take Dominican culture, Puerto Rican culture, all of that shit, like, that's the norm when you go to the Midwest.

When you go other places, it's not as heavily represented. Well, my retort to that would be Mexican culture is still. No, no, it's still especially food. But it's different. It is.

It's different. So, like, in, like, if you go to dc, you don't necessarily have as much Latin influence in Latino, I mean, not just influence in D.C. you'll have a bunch of North African stuff. You got a whole bunch of Nigerians. You got a whole bunch of Tunisians, Ethiopians, etc. Ethiopians are prevalent in D.C. is none here.

You get what I'm saying? So it's kind of regional. It is for sure. But to that the, the article that you, you were talking about, they broke that down in a little bit more subversive way that we wouldn't even think about, like meditation. You're never going to equate meditation to Asian culture necessarily.

You get what I'm saying? So Eastern philosophy in general. I do have the clip here. I was a little scared because I had to download Facebook and with the events of the other day, I'm a little scared to be on Facebook right now. I'm sure it's a mess over there, but it's going crazy.

I do have to click. They're the most influential culture. This is K104FM Dallas, by the way, in America, black. I saw this list. I thought it was so interesting.

What you think? I thought it was so interesting. The top, right? I probably remember some of them. Tell me who you see.

Who is it? Like Indian culture. I wish they would have said number five. Culture is number four. Number four.

Yeah. They didn't say five. Indian culture. These are the most influential. Influential cultures in America.

Yes. Indian came in at number four. Who else came in at number four? Mexican culture. Coming in number three.

Latino culture. Yeah, Latino culture. Came in number three. Yeah. Latino culture.

Oh, I noticed. I'm just trying to hear where she explains each other. Japanese is the number two culture in America. And I never. I didn't think that's how Latino culture.

Culture. Yeah, but think about it though. We. Japanese culture, they have meditation, they have teas, yoga, martial arts. Wait, they get tea, we giving them tea.

Yeah, yeah. Here's what they're saying. They're saying Japanese culture. Sushi. Big part of a lot of sushi.

Anime, video games, Nintendo, PlayStation, martial arts, meditation. Martial arts of the culture. The Japanese culture. Yeah, I would still think that the lands got. Got them beat.

I would think so, too. Especially because Latin America is literally physically a part of our continent. Like, Japanese got it, bro. No, I'm not going. I'm not rolling.

But it's cool, minimalist. Like, they don't have too much. They got them. Can we pop our. I don't think they got it.

Let's pop it, cuz. I'm getting ready to tell you the number one influential culture. Oh, duh, duh, duh. Stupid. Number one.

The USY Awards. Slang, language, the language, influence, street wear. Everything. Styles, Food dominance in sports, entertainment dominance. Culture at large, they say.

The number one most influential culture in America. We got it. We got it, Big dog. We got it. That ain't no doubt.

Yes. Yeah, I'm gonna delete this app off my phone immediately. I don't want to see it accidentally click it. Be on the. They absolutely right.

Zuckerberg gonna text you like, yeah. Yo, y' all get up and build me a sphinx. Yo, word. And chop the nose. Dead ass.

Chop the nose. No, no, leave the nose. Lead a nose. Lead a nose. Why?

For real. Broad nose. Build me a club and a sphinx with spinning lights. Both ours. That's where he.

That right there is where he done lost me. What's the matter? Balls. We sick. But it's our sphinx, though.

It's our club. Our house on Friday, boss. Yeah. Changing goddamn thing. If we ain't gonna be able to task.

Grab it. This. I'm going back to. What's the planet? Risk.

Risk. I'm going back to.

I'm going back there. What else, what else, what else? What? Real quick. You know who put.

I went last night. I went to see WCLEF at the Blue Note. Shout out to Cliff. I gotta tell you, yo, you don't invite nobody. I told y' all about this two months ago and y' all laughed at me.

Mark. Why would you tell me anything two months ago? But if you laughed at me, why would I bring it up again?

We got this thing called the group chat, right? And all you got to do is Marcus. I'm hitting such and such tonight. Anybody want to. I'm trying to go get that Louisiana crawfish soup or whatever that is.

They got the blue. He's there tonight if y' all want to go. I'll go again. Jersey. Damn.

Work dude.

I'll go tonight. He was A great. He. It was. I mean, it was a great, great, great show.

He's one of the best performers in hip hop. Yeah. Regardless of what you think about it has been for a very, very long time. Was Jerry Wonder there? Jerry Wonder was there.

He came. He came up and hit the stage to do Maria. Maria and the dude, they did this great extended Guantana.

It was amazing. Peter Guns was in the building. He came with the. Did a free. Well, he was always in the building, but he did like a freestyle and did a little bit of uptown.

Just in the crowd. He was just in the crowd chilling. It was. John Forte was in. John Forte was not there.

Shout out to my brother John Peter Guns.

What could have stayed. You don't do that to Peter out.

And he got a classic too. That. That works anywhere in the world. That's a fact. That's not the point of what.

What I'm saying. If I'm at the spot with my lady, we chilling, we eating the soup, we got apps, drinks blowing. And Peter Gun seated right there. And at any point, he get up, he get up. Gotta get past you, your partner, and go to the stage.

I'm going. Pardon me. Yo. Damn. Somebody did do that.

When? Last time I went to Blue Note, somebody came out in the audience and walked by everybody. Try to do a little. Little dap, bro. Damn.

I was somewhere where Peter Guns did this recently too. But I like Peter Guns.

Clef came down. This is our old episode, by the way, we have talked about. I logged into Facebook today, so. Facebook. Melly.

Mel. This has been a Kwame. This has been a lot going on. Charlie Wilson and Baby Face.

Peter Gunn. Yeah. Yo, are we the last ones that we just. We old? It's all right, though.

We out of here. Not we. You too. Flip, you here. Almost.

Almost. Why do you think you're not old? He tried to be a young. It's nothing about that. Your whole beard is gray.

Every time you stand. Because I'm stressed because of you. That's what my biggest. Stressed. Yeah.

Wait, you stressed? Cuz of being up here because of you? Yeah. You know better than this. Say something.

You know we can't. We can't. I'm trying to re you out. Just don't edit me out. We can't.

Just don't edit me. Don't say nothing you ain't supposed to say. I mean, your firing is tremendous. Then you have bazookas and all that. But my.

My little nine gonna get you right in the gut. You gotta. That right there, that sounded that sounded kind of crazy. Crazy. That right there is.

It's been a big problem at the workplace that right there has been such a big problem. Explain. At the workplace with people that thrive in rebellion. True. Spoken by rebellion.

And that's me and you. And you passed it on. No, no, no, no, no. And you brag about it too. So when do it?

You don't like it, you brag about, oh, hey, a company's getting with me. Hey, I put my foot down. Yeah, I believe myself. So now when other believe. Believe in himself.

Like don't believe in yourself around me. You know what I've done. You know how much. Don't believe in yourself. Don't come around me.

Don't come around me with all that. I believe in myself. I brought you guys in front of a. Or change. Nobody give up like you.

You drive. Don't point at me. And get some type of euphoric high off of rebellion. I'm still mad about that stock you took out. We can't talk about it, but you said some.

I had to go. Are getting fired. When I get my cast here. When I get a. I need you right here. Don't touch me.

Don't touch me right now. I'm not firing because I need them. But the second I don't need you, buddy, you're out of here. And what do you think will happen? Well, hopefully you signed a paper that says you can't talk about nothing happening.

I would never do that. I'm gonna pay you for it. No, money can't buy that. Yes, it can, man. All right, all right.

Forget it. We done. I just get on here live. We can buy that signature in a New York minute. He sign it.

Loyalty and friendship. Oh, that. Oh, please. Anyway, moving on. Moving on.

Hey, moving on. Hey, I sign it twice. Me too. I put the long. Yo, you know I've been fired from jobs and they paid me.

They ain't nothing flyed in it. It. Oh, yeah, there's none flying in it. Yeah. Damn.

Love the job. Really wanted to come to work, man, I'm getting fired. But that's the right way to buy. It's mine now. Severance.

Thank you. I love it. CNN paid me for the whole year. I got paid two years when I left Liberty. Word.

I ain't even talking about severance. I didn't have nothing in the contract that said I should be paid upon firing. Oh, they just did. People being good people. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. It's just people being good people. Yo, you was good to me. I'm being good to you. You.

That's really. That is our friend for life, Joe. If you could do it again. Let me take it again. That's.

Let me ask a better question, Joe. If you could do it again or if you could control the past, would you. Just to feel a couple things twice. I'm sorry. Sorry.

See, Joe, would you. Would you allow that 20 million leak? That's a good question. That's a good question. Which 20 million?

Depends. The one that leaked about it or the one that. That they offered him before?

I can't give an honest answer to that. And. And into at least another six. You can't let him know you leaked it. Well, I leaked it.

That's not the secret. Why you can't give an honest answer. I did that. Why you gave that comfortable, too. You know what I'm saying?

You're struggling over there. Why you gave honest answer until another six months. I'm watching. I've been in your phone. Why you can't.

Because I see both sides of Mars question. I see why you shouldn't. True. And right this second, I could see why you should. I could see both sides of it.

There's been a lot of positive perks ever since that leak happened. For who? Some negative for the company and some negative. Okay. And some negative.

Has it been positive? Has it been net positive for y' all or. Net negative. It's negative. It don't affect me.

Don't affect you? How about you? Ish. How the affect me? I ain't got nothing.

I. I know when it first happened, a lot of y' all were, like, getting phone calls. That ain't. That ain't. That ain't affect nothing. It seem to be some people there's a theory floating there, you know, there's like disarray and everything's been in shambles ever since you leaked it.

Wait, is that what's floating? I. I didn't see that theory floating. Yeah, I know it's there, cuz. I. I put it in my burner and everything I wrote, anything that. Anything that's in shambles will was in shambles before the league.

Let me clear that. No, it wasn't. Move. That was. Yo, what type of pod y' all trying to have?

Hey, I wish I could talk. What's happening? Kick me out. Tell me. Fire me right now.

You working on it. Fire me right now. No, you. You. I swear to God, I leave this.

I. Cory got to change me. I'm taking cameras and all that. I'm leaving in the bank. Joking. Y. I'm joking right now.

I say yeah. Right now. I say yeah. That's subject to change in the next six to 12 months though. Okay.

I think, I think it's still playing out. I think the. The vibrations that sent out are not done playing out. I see. They're not done.

It's still in effect, so. Still gotta have. Yeah, yeah. Too close to call. I got you.

Yeah, yeah. But I have no problem answering that in six to 12 months because that is a great question. What else needs our attention? What's the Spotify thing? Oh, that's important, actually.

That's important as it pertains to the 20 million dollar question too. Spotify has updated their terms and conditions and because nobody ever reads terms and conditions, we just agree and keep moving. That's me, that's everybody. That's unfortunate. You.

You read them though. It should be long as hell. A lot of is. Spotify does it to artists again. Now, when you upload your music to Spotify, keep in mind you're basically signing a record deal without a lawyer when you click that Terms of service service.

The updated terms of service make it clear Spotify gets sweeping royalty free sub licensable. Now. Look that up. Irrevocable. Look that up.

Hey, when that works, your content, everything from playlists to cover images and descriptions, it's not just standard, it's a full on, AI ready takeover of your creation creative output. Imagine this. You upload your music and Spotify can rework it, remix it, train their AI with it, or even assign the rights over to someone else without owing you a dime. You're effectively handing over your copyright control just by using the platform. So while Spotify draws a clean line saying outsiders don't train your AI with our data, it keeps all the rights for its own AI and you just gave them all your power.

That's scary. That's up. Spotify is an abomination of a company. Has been for a long time. Really.

They're monsters. I mean, I don't. I'm not disagreeing. I just didn't know. Are they worse than the other comparables?

Are they monsters the way they are? Way worse. They pay everyone a fraction of a penny for saying that. For yeah, far and away the least favorable to creatives. Okay, that's nasty right there though.

That is crazy on the converse. Tidal is now introducing a direct distribution system. It's not implemented yet, but while we're highlighting shitty people, I would also like to highlight great companies that pay people. Well. It's going to Be called Title Upload.

You can basically bypass the tunecores and distro kids of the world and upload directly through title themselves United Masters s I guess yeah, sorta Sorta. United Masters is a little bit more like Empire but. Gotcha. I don't know if I'm gonna continue uploading Spotify. I don't know if I heard that announcement.

Yeah, I've been kind of. Yeah, you. You off DSP is different right there. Yo, we can rework like rework your remix. It do.

Basically it's ours. You just gave it and you gave us the ability that if we want to have. Have our robots sound like you. No, not one not wanna. That's the.

No, I'm going. Yeah, we're going to wanna. There's hope there. That's scary. They're going to.

They're gonna take your. We don't need you no more. Y' all gonna train this then you're gonna data over the last 10 years that we could do it now. Right. And maybe that's too big and too scary to ignore.

Yeah. Around it's a hit record of yours out now. Now that you ain't even making. That's crazy. And you ain't getting a dime off of and it's a hit and.

And the AI is ever learning like every day is teaching itself. That is crazy. The bottom line is there needs to be big copyright changes to include the AI developments because all that is doing is sampling. Whether it's music or literary works or visual works. It's just sampling.

It's taking everybody's and reworking it it into a new thing. And it's illegal. Yeah. Like full stop. You could literally tell the to yo.

I want you to sound like a midwestern person and have applicable slang. Da da da da da. And it's gonna go listen to all to your point. It's gonna go listen to all of these midwestern TV shows, documentaries, whatever the case may be and steal from it and incorporate it into your next presentation. Correct.

That is crazy. My yo, in the great words of wuang, protect your neck pretty much as much as you can. Yeah. Honestly, the Internet is surprised that Miguel has a one year old. Why Congrats Miguel.

Yeah, congratulations to Miguel. Miguel's album next month. I'm one who believes that. That all of this hoot nanny is going to make this album all the way. Fire Fire.

Yeah, I believe that. And they're getting on me because we played the wrong Miguel song. They said last time we played a Miguel song the new Miguel song. What was wrong about it? That it was an old song that we played.

Oh, really? Oh, that's what they said? I don't know. It was new to my. New to my page.

And the Internet is angry at him for having a child because he was with his wife or ex wife, I'm not certain. For 15 to 20 years. They separated at some point, but it was a peaceful, quiet separation. So the Internet wasn't all in their business. And then we didn't really hear from Miguel and then he popped up with a one year old.

Do we hear anything from her? No, she hasn't said a people. This is why people need to. She's a class. Do she have other kids?

They both have been a class. They haven't other children, anything. No, I say that because that's why people need to mind their business. How you know she can have kids and they divorced in 2022. They broke up in 21.

They divorced in 2022. Oh, so what the hell is some story. No, I'm with the Internet on this one, y'. All. We broke up in 2021.

Nine months for a baby, Another year to have it. You know, you had that first little while out. Yeah. Another year to make sure this the motherfucker you would have a baby with that three years way so far away. Yeah.

No, he's getting over that heartbreak. That's one way to get. If I'm with somebody for 15, 20 years, don't turn around. And you can't have a baby within the next five years. Happens a lot.

Yeah, look. Oh, shut your dumbass up. You crazy. Exactly. Out there giving that box away like UPS is wrong with you.

All right. You know that post breakup, they start letting their hair down. Yeah. That is when they go have a baby. What?

No, they go. They cut their hair off. I'm talking about the other hair.

You know, you with 70s. Yeah. Got that little hairy. Hairy.

It's like that. The contrast of the white.

The contrast, the hair. How the hair bounce off the white. Stop playing with. Stop playing with my man. Oh, man.

What else is going on? What else is going on? About the streamers. You want to talk about the streamers? Yeah.

Yeah. I a say nothing. Roast your ass. You said it. I. I thought.

I thought of a new ip.

I thought of a new show concept that would be amazing. Low overhead because cameras are already running. And I think this shit is a smash still. I'll share it with you right here for free. I would like to see a show with the top 5 to 10 streamers where they are trying to get laid.

Yeah, I'm talking about they full bag of game is on full display and they're not worried about chat, chat, chat, chat, chat. You got today fucked up. I want to see them try to get some pussy. And I had this thought because I was browsing and bumped into Ice Spice and Lotto at Castanet Crib. But the other footage, not when they was playing a song, when they was just sitting, chilling, catching a little vibe and them was slapping the slap.

The loud noise slappers on the ground. And they started looking at each other like, girl, why are we even here with these? Get us with a big step aside. Yo, Ice Mice and Lotto look so disgusted at streamer behavior while Baddies was around. Oh, I laugh for about 20 minutes now.

That may be hate, but it's the truth. I'd like to see it.

It's a great concept for a show. Yeah, yeah. You can expand it too. Into podcasters and all of it. No, I was about to say I'd love to flip one.

I think podcasts are better though. Nah, getting. Well, I think it's maybe far better. A gener.

I'm talking about generationally, because some of our generation actually was outside and actually met people. I feel like the streamers are all kids that like never went outside. They never interacted with nobody except on DMs. What you mean by that? Flip wasn't married.

I'm saying if you weren't married, I think that you. That would be a fire show for you. I would love to watch you do that. I agree. That's what Flip knows how to interact with people.

Flip got Riz. You know what I mean? But Flip ain't really had conversations with women. But is it ladies? Rizzo, Riz.

Yeah, he got R. He been married. Try to holl at women. So that's what I'm saying. What I said you've been married so long that you might not know how to interact with today's world. Yeah, that's.

You don't have current. No, you don't have current R. I'm not trying to have current rs. I'm not trying R. Oh, so you and R is on the same page. No, no, no, no. Me and y' all not trying to have each other.

Hey, let me tell you something, cuz. That T mobile commercial ain't gonna work in 2025. Respect. Respect. Oh, everybody.

Ain't you everybody. And then I'm on the Joe Button podcast ain't gonna work. I'm Taking. I don't use that. Watch your mouth.

Watch your mouth. And why it won't work. You never. I don't know how to catch it like.

I'm only joking. Keep going. Catch it. You been. I promise you I'm joking.

The tongue is extremely powerful. You've been alluding. You've been alluded the tong. You've been alluded to a lot of this. Why these be trying to poach me, whatever that word is.

Stop. Stop eluding the. Wait. Who trying to poach you? Doesn't matter.

My loyalty is a one stop doing that. Who's trying to poach you? I'm not telling you cuz I told you last time you exposed if you trying to poach flip. Yeah, actually a segment is coming too cuz you ain't the only one today trying to poach. There some going on.

It is. Don't worry because you keep. Don't worry about it. You keep letting. They must smell blood in the water up here.

Hey, these content creators. Yeah. Hey, I saw it. I saw it. I missed it.

What happened? Did you zoom in? I thought it was the whole. No, Mark talked about it too. Me and Mark.

Look at Mark. I thought it was the whole thing. I said, oh, we got action.

I said oh. So many dates went on. Yo, get in the bag.

That was fire. Then I looked. I said oh, okay. And now you had to compare the dates. 1 of 1 of the days on a Friday.

One of the days on the work day. Yo, you look that up? Yeah, why not, nigga? Oh, who even asking this side Are you asking this side of the room? It's different.

Oh, okay. You like to. You take mind of your business to a whole another level or you pretend to do it. There's no way just mind his business like that. You got dirty man.

You got who dirty mack. Oh, yo, who dirty macking you out your dirty Mac. Mind my business. No, that's you. Wait, hold up.

I'm sorry. That was fucking to me. My. That don't concern me. Really?

Yeah, my. I don't pay them. I see why he would do it. I yeah, I don't see why you would do it. Why not?

I see why he would do it. Yeah. Okay. Y audience, we talking about some dates we seen floating around. That was conflicting.

No, thank God. Thank God. One of them was. It might be a knife flight. Yo, that's your man.

It might be a nice life. He's such a child. Hey, yeah, I'll go up there too. The difference is I go up there now and I turn up. I look you right your eyes and I call you.

Yo. Hey, look where I'm at. What you gonna say? Nice hotel room. Yeah.

A little fancy. I just think I'm built different. I don't want to make it by myself because they don't like that. That's true. I'm just.

Yeah. Body wise. But mentally too, Pac. That's true as well. That's true.

Oh, there you have it. They only you though, Joe. Oh, I'm not doing nothing. They only. I don't know.

I'm home with my girl. I went back into some region for a while too now. Oh, she. She's back. Oh, let me feel your.

Is she back? Yes. I'm on with my baby. Chilling. I don't want no smoke with nobody out there.

I'm. I'm for peace. Y' all ain't gonna trick me. I like to. I. I normally like to end years with peace and solutions.

I don't like to start the new year with a bunch of just pending. You mean like calendar years or contract years? Calendar year. Okay. Just asking for clarity.

Stop. Calendar year. Stop. Watch your self. Yo conversation.

You. I hate y'. All. You know. Always man.

And on top of that, that's why we need a board. Mark will follow right back up. That's my man. It's the only one with morals up here. It should freeze.

Mark, open that calendar. Hit the zoom. The zoom on the. Anyway. Did you like Adam Silver calling the NBA fans pores?

That was the first major issue I had. I've had with Adam Silver. Silver. That he sounded nice. That was crazy.

Sounded. Absolutely. He said that. He said if you can't afford the streaming services. The great thing about the NBA, it's the highlight league.

He sounded so. You just watch highlights. Just watch some highlights. Like if you can't say the word. He can't.

He didn't say the word pause. No, he did. Not at all. It was just heavily implied. That goes back to what you said.

Yeah. Everything is becoming a luxury item. No. All that shit going on. But you don't tell your patron it is saying it is nuts.

You said the same. He sounds stupid. Do lower the ticket prices. Free throw. I'm just saying at the arena.

All of it. It's all. It's all. The streaming ticket is pretty affordable last time I checked. Maybe it's gone up.

Let me see. It's not NBA package. Yeah. Cuz the NFL. I paid like 200 that like $200 NFL high.

As high as I think I paid 200 last nothing at almost 500 game is affordable. Absolutely nothing at an NBA game is affordable. Except the highlights. Yeah. Go right out of Instagram.

But you and you talking about the. You better not get hungry or thirsty. You talking about the guard. Yeah. NBA NBA League Pass is 100.

I'm not 109. If you're just doing apps and you get the three three devices 150.

That's not crazy the NFL like four 500 is it? Yeah. Yes. And that's not including like if you want prime and all the other that should be streaming on. I hate that.

Yeah. I think to what we were saying. I think the sale the cell of the warriors got them just thinking differently like so yes the garden prices but the warriors or the Lakers. The warriors and the Celtics specifically. Well oh and the Lakers recently the Lakers are sold for 10 minutes and the Lakers a partial.

Yeah. But before that the Celtics that was nuts. And the warriors was nuts at the time. So if you seeing that type scale for your franchises year over year. Yeah.

Then we done talking to the broker. But it got to come with success. So I think. I think every team can't do that. If you have.

Well yeah if you have the success. Like like Indiana right now. Oh I'm sure they up Cleveland right now. Actually I've read something about Cleveland what they would get if they went right now like so you talking about even smaller market teams. I just don't think he should have said that.

He should not. I don't think he should have said that or you should have worded it way the different. Yeah but you. You out of touch man. These like Cleveland.

But that's what's happening in music. Yeah. Like what he's saying is not specific to sports entertainment. Like everybody is on the highlight moment. Microwave the reels all that fast.

Quick little clips. Yeah. Everybody's tick tocking. Yeah. The.

The root of the game and the snippets and clips and all that just give it to you. It's over. Pause. It's over. That's only us dinosaurs that that care about the whole these Knicks tickets.

How much? What was the jump? I don't even know the prices. What was the jump? Man them was high before y' all was making a playoffs and they higher now.

Yeah, I believe it. The whole league you doing season tickets again. Yeah. I've never given them up. I'm going to sell most of them just because I can't get to the games right.

But they. I don't even. I don't even know what they were last year. We were paying almost, we paid like 200. So the Knicks gotta be, that's the funny part.

The Knicks gotta be twice that three times. And anybody selling them, I'm sure is in the block killing them. Yeah, they're killing them. Yeah. In New York.

Yes. In Philly. No, in New York. For me, like, I can, I can get face for, for me, I just, I, I can get face value for them now. And if it's a big game, Lakers, those games I be wanting to go to, though, you know what I mean?

And playoffs, you can make a lot. The problem with the playoffs is every NBA team doubles every round. So, so you, if you paying 5,000 a game, first rounds, next time you're paying 10. NBA Finals, you pay on 20, 000 a game. When I work seat not per pair.

Yeah. When I went to the Celtics, not did last year when they was in the championship, that ticket was 6, $500. Geez. That was $6,500. They basically priced.

We wasn't in the front like that was, it was a good seat, but it wasn't down there. Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna watch on TV personally. Yeah. I pull that headset out.

Them tickets cost so much. I, I, he asked me if I wanted to go to preseason game. I said, yeah, send me everything. Yeah, everything. I'm going media day.

I want every T shirt for real. I felt like a loser too, but. Nah, you didn't. Nah. Now get my money's worth.

That's what you're talking about. You, you feel like you made it. That's a good purchase. Yeah. I didn't look at a preseason in the game like that at all.

Oh, no, no, no, no. The fact that you're talking about buying a season ticket, I can afford these seasons. Cool. But now I'm gonna use every, the preseason. I'm using it.

Nah. Do you give your seats away? Do you sell them? No, I give them away. Yeah.

Yeah. But I give them away to family. Family friend. Yeah, yeah, I used to do that. I stopped like, yo, Charlie.

The price went up too. I'm not being funny because the Sixers tickets used to be a good rate, and then every year they kept doubling. Today they say, we want to match Brooklyn and New York. I'm gonna stop doing it too. Every game I send my dad to is a historic once in a generation game.

Triple overtime, 17 buzzer beaters, dog. Every time he went to the lone Yankee win at World Series. And Jackie turned the whole section up and they was lit over there drunk in the Bronx at night time. That look like the best time. He won't have another night like that in his life.

In his whole life. But that's why you work hard. The G, the Garden behind Bad Bunny, nick's playoff win cat 50 points. Whatever the was going on. Every time I say, you know what man, just go ahead.

Yeah, it be rocking. You coming in with that mood music energy. These get lose by 90.

Lose by 90. Yo, you see Ben Simmons, they said that he turned down. The one contract he was offer was the New York Knicks and he turned it down. How it make you feel? Well, I was grateful cuz I don't want Ben Simmons on my team.

But I knew that the Knicks had it out for they wanted him. Do. Do you know how much they offer? I believe the report minimum the bet men. What is the veterans minimum now?

4 million, 5 or 6 million. I forget it's in the 4 to 5. That was why the agent was like I'm done. All right dog, I got you some work out here. And you, you not even entertaining.

The Ben Simmons fall off needs to be examined. Yo, when I'm home, when I'm home, I think about certain fall offs and how to just avoid it. That Ben Simmons fall off is high on the list. Who would you say was the highest fall off that came in as a main prospect and just. Oh, I see.

I don't just mean in sports. I just mean general fall offs. So just give me. I think that was all. And I. I think a lot of that public.

Public for Saba J. Simpson. I think. Yeah. After the trial, your public perception. Yeah.

You can't take it. Anybody can't take that. And he let that get in his head and it was over. And we and we and we as a society just think that you, you it come with the territory or shut up, grin and bear it. Shut up and dribble.

And that's not necessarily you talking about Ben still. Yeah, yeah, I agree with you. I think everybody's not built for a big city. I don't think everybody not built for see what everybody thinks about. Yes.

But in a big city you get like if you're in New York, Philly, Boston, there's certain cities where the screw expectations come with extra. Exactly. Pat Bev was saying this other day, he was like if Ben had been in Indiana, he may have developed different Cleveland. Cleveland, Minnesota, something he might not have. I saw my guy friend of the show or a friend of mine, Cuffs the legend tweet out a few weeks ago.

Yeah. We love you, Cuffs. Cuffs said a few weeks ago that he just received a text from somebody that said retirement.

Cuffs is only best besties with LeBron. LeBron. Yeah, but he. I could make. I could.

Cuffs wouldn't do that.

I could see that happening this season. You mean like at the end of this season? No, I could see him announcing. Him announcing this is my last hurrah and going on the tour and. And getting out of there.

I think we would do that before I could see it. Yeah, I think you would do it. Yeah, but we, like a couple weeks from pre. From preseason games. I think he would have done it like in.

Nah. You think he does it right before the season starts? Whenever he does it? A thousand percent. Okay.

That'd be interesting. I want the whole. Bro, you talking about LeBron James, who's since 17 years old, every single major announcement has had the cameras and the media and the. This into that. He's not gonna just be like, yeah, y'.

All. No, no, I'm not saying that I'm gonna make this a show. That's my point. I don't think he would do it like, in September. I think he would do it in, like, July, August.

I think the league would want to make a whole campaign and a whole thing that's hard to do in a week. And I. LeBron now with everything he knows about his brand, I'm controlling that. I'm not letting the league do that. Right. I might not.

I'm gonna be besties with the league. Right. Right now. You know what I'm saying? And I'm not doing smoke with them.

I got all kind of going. I got. I'm filming all of this. She wants to buy a team and all those other things. Yeah, y', all.

I hope. I hope whenever he does do what he does, give enough of a rollout or lead up time that people can give him the love he deserves. I don't see him doing it before Bryce gets a shot at the NBA, though. Is. Is.

Is that not an issue to some people? I could see that happening before Bryce. You could. Okay. 100%.

Depends. I saw what's making. I ain't trying to stick around for the around and especially on the team that Bryce get drafted to. And this is the first time that, you know, there's the Luca effect happening on the. On the Lakers.

Like, I might not be trying to stick around for two and three years of this. They saying that Dallas is trying to poach them. Allegedly. I can see it. That'll make this Year lit, yo.

Every time the new year's about to come, like the current year start wiling, and it make me say, Yo, 2026 Pigs is about to turn up on us. I mean, I don't think that 2025 is done either. The hell no. Hell no. By the way, way too much time left in 2025.

It's just the fourth quarter. Yeah. Word. About to. Now it's about to gear.

We've been coasting. It's go time. I had to turn the news up this morning. The rest of some burnt. Some elderly people on fire burnt the house up, and they caught him coming out.

They caught him, the cameras coming out the house? No, no, no. He did the perp walk. He got the cameras around. He was screaming, hey, they were sexual predators.

They were molesting kids in that house. And I fixed it. The two old white people in the Long island charge his phone. He was going to different houses, asking him to charge his phone. They let him in.

I didn't hear the charger phone part. I just heard about that. Hangers crying. Right. And what he said on his perp walk.

Oh. But anyway, I just sat up in bed and. Hey, what the. This. The news will make you turn.

What? Turn some. I don't see how you watch that. Oh, speaking. And.

And Parks, when I went to go watch Task, you said it was four episodes out. I didn't say that. No, he. That was something else that he was talking about. God, my brain is scrambled in.

So I didn't watch it because it was only. What episode? I'm. I'm gonna wait. Oh, okay.

I'm gonna wait. That looks great. Let that thing build up. Yeah, that looks great. Pause.

Yeah, that's how they feel. Check it out. See what it's about. Forgive me if y' all talked about this, because I don't watch a lot of shows, so I may have, like, zoned out. Y' all watched forever.

No. What's forever? Okay, good. Y' all should watch forever. It's actually a really.

It's on. It's on Netflix. It's that I kill Mar. Brock. I kill.

Uh, is the EP of it. Wood Harris is. Is. Is one of the leads in it along with. Oh, I might have watched this.

This is about the. He's Wood Harris. Like a chef or something like that.

It's good. It's really. It was good. Y' all want some? A good.

Reunited as teens, two childhood friends fall deeply in love. Experiencing the joy and heartache of a first romance. Never. I promise you Never. The boy.

The boy, I'm telling you, is good. The boy. They live on separate parts of town, right? Yes. Yes.

It's more to the story. It's not a teenage love story. It sounds like that and that's part of the story, but it's more interesting than. It's a. It's a social.

It's a social watch the first episode. Social economic story. Really. It's good. I know you probably wouldn't.

What Harrison. I'm about to say also. Y' all could just be a lot softer than me. And y' all are into the forever. Y' all into forever.

Pardon me. It was no killings. It's fine. Yeah. Nobody.

Ain't nobody bodies in the freezer. Speaking of movies. Nobody died. I did go see the Conjuring. How was it?

I enjoyed the out of it. They closed this perfectly. Okay. You can tell this is it for Elizabeth and Dude. Okay.

They. They ended it. I'm not gonna spoil anything else, but thank you. Yeah. And enjoyed the out of it.

I like all of the Conjuring and Annabelle's and all of that, so. Me too. This. This was a great booking for that. For that.

That series. I went to see the Long Walk. A Long Walk. How was it? It was cool.

It was cool. My girl loved it. Oh, really? She loved it. Squid Gameish.

Squid Gameish? No. Stephen King is a little darker than that. Right. So I would.

I would imagine it was Squid Games is pretty dark. This was more like Surviving the Game to me. Ice T. Oh, we really old. But damn, there's. And there's like two other movies that are like Surviving the Game where they put you in the woods and.

And the white people are watching and. Yeah. Hunting Housewives. And Hunting Housewives. And there's another one that's like.

With a hedge fund. The Butterfly. That's what. But yeah, a Long Walk wasn't bad. It got to be the cheapest movie ever filmed since there was just a bunch of unknown kids walking.

So it wasn't. But it was compelling scary. Because if you saying it was more along. Surviving the game. I'll go check it out.

It wasn't scary. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. It ain't gonna scare you going today, gang.

Be brave. That's gay. Be brave. Let's just go together, bro. Yeah.

No, it wasn't a movie. Sit next to each other too. Yo. The movies is still a good day and time. Absolutely.

Every time. Absolutely. I know that metrics are suggesting otherwise. The movies is still a good date and time. Time that should be packed Usually yeah.

They ain't got that many showings but it ain't cheap though. It ain't cheap though. I spent about 100 and something every time I go. That's just the regular and tickets is cheap. It's just all other ain't cheap.

15 hours the 2 hours in the movies a lot cheaper than 2 hours in the strip club. That's well well. And I brought my water bottle in there. My Ola. Yo you said no them movies tickets $50 19 a ticket, bro.

140. I can show you. I just went yeah. They usually be like 20 something. You must be adding your food and all that.

As I said, the other is expensive once you add all of that your drinks some in a barber shop.

I used to go to some speaking easy somewhere I go I'm say it up here. Y' all ever been to I got y' all ever been to the the old school driving yes. Outdoor movie theater not in Jersey. I've been to I've been to 1 think I wanted no think I wanted no more we went the what? The night before my wedding.

We went I'm old man. Yeah, keep going. Yo bro. You Charlie. You all bro.

Mark, what happened just now My hamstring. Yeah y' all was massaging is hamstring. Y' all should have checked his hamstring. What was happening? What is y' all telling I gave ish massage.

I'm star gave him a little massage. That's exactly what I did. I missed you. My move.

Can he play no more. Stop doing that with a little Chris. No, that's my mark. It's a man with a wife. Yo I a stay you right but I this I'm scared.

That hurt like a you know old man. Hey yo. I. I. You and like 18 different martial arts. You just going to yell out at the pain like that?

I wasn't expecting it. I wrong with Wrong with you. You scared me, dude. Scared me. I thought it was awesome.

I heard something pop. That's why it's got to be how Phil Jack Jackson felt when Kobe went down. Oh man. My star player didn't do one action movement sitting still yell out pulled your hamstring. All right.

Now you can't talk about the ish finger roll no more. That's fine. You can't talk about the issue. You're done pulling a heavy podcasting is crazy. I think it's just a bad crap.

I stayed out too late last night. Are you canceling some of your public campus appearances like Ben Shapiro did? No, no. I can't afford to do that. Oh, Ben cancel.

Hello. We up at 10 today, right? Wow. Ben ain't coming right? Add 10.

No, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not canceling anything. I got a few events coming up, you know, on the website. I think it's one is two weeks from now.

Margus do brave for my liking too. I learned that you brave. I mean, you know, you know, I'm gonna start getting security though. You go. You'll start.

See, FYI, because every 17 year old girl shouldn't be able to get that close to you. You pick and choose when you're Muslim. Oh, yo, yo, yo. Why? I'm kidding.

I had a good comeback, but I. Well, what might that have been? You should trust it. If I'm not gonna say it, then. Thank God.

Yeah, thank God.

You can tell me all the time. Oh my Lord. I gotta put my left out. But. But yeah, I'm start getting.

FYI, they got great security and you know, I don't want a lot of guns around. Don't let them. Let them. The little. Them little mace girls in again.

Yeah, little pepper spray girls. Oh, I told you somebody gotta protect Miz. That's true. Yeah, they hit me up right after that. Like you need.

You need to start having security pretty. Yeah, I'm on it. The hell is wrong with this guy right now?

You got to know what today is. It's our anniversary. Hello.

Hello. That's a but. All right. Yeah, you got to know what today is. All right.

What else needs our attention? What is important, unimportant. Nothing else in music. Nothing else in Streamers. Trying to get land.

Nothing else in. They put out the Drake record. No, I don't care about it. Y' all can take it away. The whole thing.

It's the same record that we played on from the stream. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. I'm looking at you. That's exciting for someone. Someone, somewhere.

Yeah. Just. It's not. Not me. So.

I mean I ain't trying to on it, but anyway, one day because I'm looking. I was looking at the date. We are one week away from the Cardi album. Cardi, buddy. Yeah, it crept up quick.

It did. I thought we'd get another record by now. I thought we would too, but. Yeah. Although there would still be time if they did a week of here's the album.

Not the same as a full. Yeah, it's normal for people to drop albums and then drop singles like not. Or drop a single that night. Yeah. Maybe that.

Maybe that's there. Cuz I was sitting there looking. I'm just like. It's. It's still quiet.

I would have to imagine they make some type of noise in this last. Last week. Fashion Week. Is it Fashion week? Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. There you go. That's why you was out last night. You was walking the Runway, being fashionable again.

You was out looking good.

You, Antoine, you. What's. What's up? I heard you. I didn't have to reply.

That's true. That's. Be that mean. You know that mean. Hey, hey.

Don't ask. You already know. Hey, come on. You got to ask me nothing. Freeze.

Come on, ask me nothing. We know. My man, when he got his mustache shaped up.

This a shock. When your mustache is ready to go, he's ready to go. I know. I know. Cardi is like.

There's rumors of her being mad at me, so I want to be careful of my commentary. But the gig is a gig. What is that? Yeah, I mean, it was scary when imaginary players came out, because if you were sitting on an album full of heat, then imaginary players don't come out or it don't come out. How it came out, it came.

It comes out as a freestyle for that record to come out. And certain publications try to handle it like it was an actual release. Niece. That. That spelled something.

It just spelled something. I ain't gonna say no more because I want to wait till the music comes out. Because I'm hoping that she went and got with the right people and there's something on there.

The label don't think it's heat or she don't think it's heat. Listen, my commentary be getting her mad. So what. What I'm saying is, let me take it off her. Let's take the sports.

If. If the old quarterback is there and we get a new head coach and a new gm, the chances are those people want to go get their people. They not just going to work with what's there. I don't think that's just a cardi. I think a lot of people are in that position right now.

Yeah. Where new people are in the building. We trying to establish who's worth what. Who are we gonna continue with? What new acts are we signing?

Oh, you spent. That's this much over here. Oh, you've been spending this much in the last. We looking at the books. We trying to shed overhead.

I don't think it's a Just a Cardi conversation. So I can see how when I. When it's Attached to her. It comes off away. I think that's a today artist conversation in that building.

And I've been there in any building. If the new people come when. When the building. Yeah. Well, that's not the only building going through it.

But. But that was the Hot 107 conversation we were talking about. Oh, and it's the Hot 97 conversation. It's not just the music. It's anywhere.

Cardi talk. It's anywhere, bro. It's corporate. We know that it's corporate. New new owner or y' all merge or something.

Next thing you know, they start looking at where can we cut money? All right, you've been here. I think it says something that the Cardi rollout is looking like it's looking. And some people could feel like it's fly with standing in the street and selling your shit on the sidewalk. I mean, I was dope.

Dope. That was. That was very dope. That was very dope. All of that could be cool.

It don't speak to what they are doing. What it shows what that shows me. And I don't want no smoke. They is in the label. Go ahead.

Yes. It shows me that the label isn't treating her like Premier primary A1 we put in the building behind you. Yeah, it looked to me like. That's what it looked like. It looked like she had to go do that on go do that.

Yeah, it. And somebody for her label might have told her to do that. But still how it looks. It looks like they about to rely on bundles. Because every other day I see a new album cover or a new T shirt or a new vinyl or I see the.

I went on the Cardi B website to give it a scroll. There's things there that a fan of Cardi B would enjoy, but they're all bundle packages. So between that and between Apple and between her core audience of being who she is, you hope to get people out or not out to the stores or pull a phone out and make a purchase or stream. We'll see. And it will definitely get streamed.

So. But it is quieter than it should be. Yes. Super. And I'm certain that we're not the only people to notice that.

Yeah, it's too quiet for even coming off a court case. Well, that may or may not have been. Yeah, but I mean, that was just two weeks ago. Yeah. You supposed to come out of that blazing glory.

That's what that. And you won. And you won. You should be coming out of that. It should have been a posse cut there should have been something, something with a feature.

Get back with one of these. These rapping chicks. Anything, anything, anything. But we shall see. We shall see.

I hope the album is good. That's all. I. Yeah. I really only hope the album is good. Long as the album, whether it sell, don't sell.

Brand, not brand. If the music is good, it'll quiet the naysayers. Even though she thinks that's me, the naysayer, I don't make a penny off the album, so I don't care what it sell. I said about all of these albums, I don't make no money. Whether you sell one or a million copies, I want something that I could put in the headphones and like, this is my.

And this is fire. Did you see the tweet running around? Who was it? K Flock or one of them was like, we having this conversation. If Pusha T is better than Jeezy.

Have you seen it? It was. It was 42 dog. 42 dog. I'm sorry, but sorry.

A little bit of dog like me. Jeezy's his favorite rapper. Doug's from Detroit. Jeezy has ties to Detroit, so he holds Jeezy in a much higher place. Anyway, Jeezy, not to interrupt.

Shout out to you, brother. Brothers. They invited me to his last show in Detroit tonight, but it's tonight. Yeah. Any other night, I'm going out there to see that and put the suits on with the Detroit.

And you know Detroit. You know, Detroit going to show. They're gonna show all the women. That's like a second kind of home. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

So that's why I understand Doug even saying that. I didn't even take no. Him saying it. Okay. I get it.

Like, you're not even gonna. It's not even a conversation to him. So I understood it. And a lot of people upset over it. But it's like, dog, you have to also know who's saying this and why they saying it.

Well, I'm asking about what you say. Well, who's a better rapper? I'm documenting saying Jeezy can't rap. I've been. I always say my favorite rapper is not the most lyrical.

He can't rap like that to the people that can really put the pen to paper. Now, when he getting. He can make songs that. That hit you in bangers. Yeah.

Yes. And can put you in that moment. Like, I. I feel his music, but in terms of being a rapper. Rapper. He ain't on my top nothing listing that he's not like a wordsmith or none of that type of.

So, yeah, if you're asking me who's the better rapper, it's Pusha T. With. With. Without. What? It's not close.

But you're taking GZ is my all time favorite rapper over everybody. I get that take. I wish I would take Pusha over Jeezy, but. But I agree with everything you just said. Otherwise, like, it.

Your favorite rapper ain't necessarily the most skilled one, but when it comes to bars, I mean, I don't even think it's close between and Jeezy. But Jeezy does the thing that Pusha doesn't do for me, and that is. And it's his. It's the topic. It's the music.

It's also his voice. Yeah, it's everything. Everything, bro. And Jeezy tell you I ain't no rapper. Yeah, ain't no rapper.

I've said this before in here. I just think that Jeezy wins the. The Timeless Music Award. To me, like, his music is. Is.

Is the wine. That first album. Come on. Right now, this will start going crazy, bro. I've been in spots where they'll do a Jeezy set.

Yes. And a spot. And I mean a set. They. I don't mean two, three records.

Suburbs. No, no. In the middle of the ghetto. You can joke in the middle of the middle. Can we stop calling y' all the new accounts?

The funny is we be in the trenches in north where that happens. I understand. I understand that. Can we start calling y'? All?

Can we stop saying you come Jersey City? Yeah. What would you like to say? I don't know. Look, look.

That is where your little joke go, Roll. What would you like to say? I don't want to just divulge where you live. Oh, please. Nobody would believe I'm from there.

Stop it. Can we call y'? All? I'm in Newark every day. The suburb council.

I'm in Newark every day. Every day. But can we call y'? All? And I'm not from Newark.

I'm from East Orange. So to be clear. But I'm in Newark every day. No. So I can't call y' all daily number blocks.

Just answer my question. You ain't been to that Dairy Queen. You ain't been at Dairy Queen in decades. I'm fascinated by this. So I know why you're in the.

In the hood. Ish. You pick up workers and stuff there. What do you. My workers don't live.

Face killer.

Mr. East. What do you. What what do you do there? Why you in the hood every day, cuz? Y' all bragging about that?

I be. I'm not bragging. I just. That's why you there. Why you be there?

Why are you there? I handle. You have no business there. Family that live in the hood that I visit my every day. I really was asking.

Yes, I do. You got a lot of going on. Definitely does visit their family. Me. Yo, he can't be a ref a cosign for you when I'm talking to you.

I don't care. I'm somebody that do that with each other. I don't give a. Because you lying and we tell. Have you been in Jersey City in the last go to the five years outside of casa.

It's another legitimate question. No, I'm not letting them escape. It's your alternative questions. I. I told you, I'm. I'm in.

You visit family. My barber shop is in the hood. I don't think I. Workers I drive through to check on. I don't pick friends.

Old friends. No, you don't. No, you don't. What? No, you don't question.

I'm answering honestly, though. Stop lying. Honestly. You answering. Yeah, you are not even answering.

You. No, they're not. And it's because of these doofy. That's why I'm gonna do the Joe Button doc. I'm gonna do the doc.

So who you gonna pay to go to the hood and film all that footage though? Three weeks, weeks ago I was in Sal's. Right? In Sal's. Okay.

My man Sal. Big hug. You know what time it is? Before it was a barbershop. That's where we was going.

Working at the Wiz when we were stealing and leaving it there mixtape days when nobody even had a mixtape in Jersey City. I just stopped by there. Oh my God. So happy to see. So happy.

Three weeks ago, Joe. Three weeks ago, I answer the questions and then I start yours on vacay. Three weeks, weeks ago. You want me to call s. Yeah. Yep.

Yeah. Yes. See? Be careful when you ask them questions. Going to say yeah, do it.

Why? I could call Sal. Call him though. You asked us did we want you to call you going to call your family. No, we talking to you.

You can't chant and. And bucking them. Can't be in every scene you talking about. Can't be in every city. Yo, I'm about to call you right quick.

Just go along with what I say, all right? Just say yes. You'll still get. Keep getting. You ain't been on mlk.

You ain't been on Ocean. No, it keep coming. It keep coming. Since you went to Turks on Patreon. I'm.

Of course.

I go to no hood in Jersey City. Please. Yo, unlike y', all, I go anywhere I want. You just don't want to go to the hood. That happens to include the hood sometimes Times.

Where don't I. Where don't I go? No, no, no, no. Don't let him escape. Where don't I go?

Hold on, hold on. You said, unlike y', all. Unlike y', all, where don't I go mad? Please. By myself.

I'm always. I don't need Corey. I go by myself. I hate talking jury out by myself to take that Swiss your ass up. You could keep your little sterling silver Casio the you talking about, but when you ride through these hoods every two or three weeks.

No, I park up, and you be solo. I park up. I'm everywhere. When you park up, you park up the hill. What you drive?

What you drive? What you drive? No, you parked up in the. Since you. Since you parked, that mean you drove.

So what did. What you drive? No, my driver parks up talking to my driver parks up talking to. Don't get out and stare nowhere. It's not like everybody up here is lying.

I don't believe none of y. You know. You know better. I did. I told you.

You be at Home Depot. I don't. Home Depot ain't in north fam. My barber shop. Oh, yeah, there is one.

I don't be going through that. What do you be doing in Newark to see him in Newark? I'm in there twice a week. What you say? What you be doing in Newark to see him in Newark saying, yo, you know, ish my wife.

He could get a pass. Yeah, You've been there. You've seen. I was with you in Newark. I don't.

I forgot. But yeah, in college, and you missed it earlier. But he still. He's still. You know what I mean?

He's got the. Still got the pamphlets in the trunk. Yeah, he got to get out. Got to get busy out there. That we used to be in Jersey City.

Those. We need a new pyramid on Broad Street.

You know what I'm saying? Yo, this guy put a pyramid in Lincoln Park. This don't go back to no Jersey. The worst part about being in the cult, man, was when I got the tattoo and they all thought I went too far. Wait, that was the worst part?

Yeah. Where the tattoo at? Let me see. It's the Crown. But it's like, you see, they actually.

So the kids was cool. So the kids part to you was cool? I sold my incense. I never got up. I used to feel.

Except that one time with dude, I came about five incense short, and my man was sleep. He went too far. So you sleep. We got to get his ass whooped anyway. He was like 50 short.

You get your ass whooped if you short. Oh, yeah, Us up. Well, that's regular. They used to. Yeah, it was just like.

No, yeah, no, different. Him get up or both of us get up. So it don't make no sense in both of us. I didn't see the logic of both of us get up. Tell you what.

Jump. See? See that mentality? Either we go to jail or. Or he go to jail.

I don't see the sense of both of us going. See different. That's that rat. But that's you rat. I ain't right.

We caught. I'm not doing the crime. We're not talking about me. All right. Talking about the.

Here you. You got it. That was short and played his man. That's supposed to be a brother, too. Yeah.

After that, that's when we started selling bootleg. Did you ever sell bootleg on the street? What? Huh? I don't know.

What kind of hustles y' all had? That's actually a good question. No, it's not. What kind of hustles did you have? I mean, that ain't hit all the time and still had to go, hey, Cory.

Hey, Corey. I mean, that ain't hit all the time. Oh, packed him a little heavy.

See, why you ask him this? You know this. Say, you ever saw anything bootleg and he got his tachini on now. Come on. He in his moment.

No, no, we good, bro. It ain't that. No hustles for you other than drugs in the community? Oh, I sell houses, Mark. But back in the day, I know you had some.

Some hustlers. No, I never sold nothing on street. I stole clothes before, and I. I had all the hustles. I had check scams. I had.

I mean, it ain't all. Yeah, I tell my friends that you're not a nerd. Oh, I mean, I'm a nerd, but I just had hustles. I did. We did different.

How about you, Ice? Yes. No. Nothing. You want to share with it?

Absolutely not. I sold music. If you needed Windows 2021. Yo, what you doing? Oh, you had to.

You had to. Yeah, that you needed some mortgage software, the USB if you need. If you need Adobe 97, it was a place that you could get it. You know what I mean? I'm just saying somebody had it.

Somebody had. You knew. What is it about? Did y' all still speak like y' all like, are active criminals? No, I don't.

I don't. Like y' all sound like there's a fear, a healthy fear that they could come snatch y' all at any moment contingent on what y' all share. Why do you group tripping people? Because I'm listening to y'. All.

He said that? I didn't say. I didn't say that. Anything like that. You do talk like you talk like that.

Like I'm scared that somebody gonna come pick me up. Like you. Like you still outside and I don't talk like that. He said I talk like somebody's coming to pick you up. Like you scared.

Like they come talk like. No, no, like. Like you still like in the game. Exactly. Like, you know, I tell you later.

I can't tell you something. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. What are you talking. Cause it's some that the world don't supposed to know. Unlike y' all COE that want to share to be told to 8 million viewers.

Shots at your man CEO. I don't like. Don't say CEO around me. Oh, say that when I'm not here. Like you won't throw shots at your man.

Throw anything at you. You're my brother. That's cool. Park, you have any to you, Mark? I don't talk about to get his time out.

Go ahead. Yeah. Mad hustles. What kind of. I. I try magic.

Especially in the music game. When I was young, I was. Was like doing menial labor. Okay. And when I was like in high school and college, I was maybe distributing some herbal essences to the.

That was my guess. Presumptuous. Oh, you work for Mary Kay the Shampoo. Yeah. Avon Lady Gage.

Yeah. And then music hustles galore. The music business is all hustles. Yes, it is. And you flip crazy.

Just typical street. I had a nice music hustle going at one. Like what? Just typical street, man. Just trying to be outside.

Yeah, it must be whack to just like be a law abiding citizen. No, I mean, even if you were successful or not, we. It's amazing. Look, look, look, look. Look at your man.

Look at your man again. Yeah. That's why even if you outside, listen n. What? We ain't even passing that message off. No, it's not.

That was distributing It. And it was. That was the other that was using it. The runner. Oh, the runner.

I wasn't either. You know what I'm saying? You talking about my history of addiction? Yeah, I was trying. I was trying to make fun of you.

Talking about my history. Oh, wow. He said he's a customer. Wow. You can't say that about me, yo.

I cannot. But you making fun of my. That's funny, sir. That's. Wow.

You think that's funny? No, it's. Wow. Listen, I saw. I'm gonna keep it real.

I sold drugs for about six months. My mother came looking for me and embarrassed me in the street, you know what I'm saying? And try to be at 193 in London. I never forget it. Two or three in the morning.

And she did that. And it's like, I. I don't want to do that. And then the. That. The.

That you look up to. They're not gonna stand there and watch you disrespect your mom. You gotta go, right? They're not. You're not gonna talk to your mom like that.

You're not gonna tell her to go. We're not with that. So that's all it took for me. She drove something. Boy.

Three, Two in the morning. Twice. And I. Same thing when I joined the Crips. Let me tell you something.

Wait. She jumped you out the game? No, she jumped out the game. No, they jumped about the game. He had to move to Queen.

No, I did not. My mother came down there, man. Came to Brooklyn and saw me outside with them. You know, I was doing that. I'm like, listen, I'm cool.

The day that my mama. Not the day, but any day where my mama decided to hop in her car and make her way down to them basketball courts across the street from Subaru on Commuter por. You know, that's where we at. We on the car. That's why you can't.

Who is. You can't say that to me. You can't say that to me. You my man. So I'm gonna kiki with you.

But when Mama Faye came down there to them basketball courts, it was whooping time. Boy, if she had and all your. Your whole crew is there, the gang is there. Is there everybody. Basketball court.

Summertime. I'm talking 96, 97, 98. When she came there. Oh, my God. I met.

My brother was down there. That used to activate parents. You couldn't with me. I run away. My mom knew I was with the action.

My brother, he thought he was older. Came down there and smack the dog out of him. I said, mama, Mama ain't playing. You said, the passenger seat. There's nothing you can do.

Flickers, right? That's your mom. Everybody watching. Your mom smacked the out of you in front of everybody in the basket. You got to eat that.

What you do. And you left to get in the car. Now we got to find another one. Yo, Sub. Yo, Sub.

Nothing you can do about it. You can't do. You can do it. I sold everything. Candy in the second grade.

We did. We sold watermelon in South Carolina. Worked at the pig pen. I stole laptops and TVs and everything out of the Wiz. Oh, yeah, Whiz.

Yeah. Nobody beats the Wiz. Shook him down. I beat him.

I used to. That was sneakers. Use the plug. I used to work at Herman Sporting Goods. I to.

Used to steal the sneakers out there. I ain't heard that name in. Yeah, they didn't have no tracking system, so. Well, we would come in. People come in, try on the sneakers, and just wear them out.

And I'll put the empty box back up on the back in the warehouse. And we'd break me. They break me down later. Like, when I got back around the way. Oh, there's a lot of trust involved in that.

Well, till some old heads burnt me after. After, like, getting burnt. Wait a minute. So you gonna let me leave and then pay you later? Yeah, I got burnt on these hirachis.

Like, three pairs of hirachis. Like, they basically out of here, young boy. I was like, all right, yeah. What can you do? I said to take the L, and I stopped doing it.

And then I got fired. Yeah, I know I've asked y' all this before, but the fight is tonight. Yes, I'm still going. Yeah.

I watch. As you said to watch about. I can see why you think Canelo. Canelo just. Canelo sound tough.

He does. He does. He checked the. Out of Max Kelly Kellerman. You saw it.

Max Kellerman was up there. I guess the people responsible for bringing this fight to Netflix are Dana. Dana white from the UFC, one of the big dogs from WWE. So Max Kellerman is up there. What's his name?

TKO Co. Well, so Max Kellerman is up there trying to, you know, shout these people out and big them up. And he says, yeah, one of the people responsible for making this thing bigger than boxing. We got Dana White. Yeah. Canelo was like, yo, don't say that again while I'm up here.

Boxing is big and cool. What you talking about? Don't say that again while I'm up here. And Bub was like, yeah, I feel him. Hey, yo, you know what I saw?

Canelo just talked like a that knocked out. He just talked like that. You ever meet a that just talk like he gotta be able to knock you out. No, but then when you seen him knock out out, like, oh, he really can knock out. Did you watch when you saw Jacob the Jeweler there selling him to watch and you saw the episode?

No, I watched the last episode the other day at the barber shop. Jacob the Jeweler price needs watching. A million one was 900,000. Other one was a million a bunch. Yeah, he ain't the same, Jacob.

Yeah, he ain't that. That was over there. Why you not not? That was over there. Yeah, he different.

Why he not? You talking about in a good way or a bad way way? No, in a good way. Oh, okay. He stepped it up.

His clientele stepped up. Probably the materials he used. Diamonds is in Monaco, bro. Like, yeah, like you not. It's different.

But I watched the last episode. Canelo don't look like Rich Canelo. You look hungry again. Yeah, he looked dusty. Not clothing wise.

Because he was up there with some fly on. Yeah, he was up there with some fly on. He just looked like, yo, I think this might be my legacy for fight. So I'm gonna take this serious because they don't mention me with the Floyds. They don't mention me with the other that laid it down.

And Canelo has a really, really. To be honest, his career is flawless outside of the Floyd. You know what I mean? Outside of a couple little questionable shits, he is one of them. And I don't think he get the recognition that he deserves.

I think he looking at this Bud fight like this, this right. He's gonna do it. Because I could sell off into the sunset. Said Rich and I beat Bud and my name is cemented now, cuz he don't have that win for him.

I called my mom up, said I need a big pot of collard greens, not a turkey wings. Yeah, turkey wings. You doing a fight party, Called my girl up. Oh, you get your ass up here. Turkey wings.

Turkey wings and rice, Texino lamb cheetah salad. No, no, no. My girl turkey wings kind of good. They're kind of good. My mom's like, you want me to make turkey wings?

Oh, oh, you shut it down.

No, this is different styles. Yeah, I know. It's up now. Yeah. Certain conversations you can't have with your mom.

No, you cannot. You cannot Right. Should have said it. Yeah, she asked, but it sounds weird that I'm asking for collard greens and not turkey wings. She said, I got some seasoned up already.

I was like, oh, my baby. Oh, yeah, you got her to make collard wings, too. Got to go squash it for me, Ma, I love you, but I'm saying the collard greens going to be hitting. You already know what time it is already, so you know. Yeah, it's happening.

That's what I'm most excited about. We might pull up. Yeah. Your mother be bribing you? Is this your career?

My mother bribes anybody in front of her. She tried to trade me hoodies for food. Y' all got. I got you. No, my mom is crazy.

Yo, bossy too. Yo, I need two hoodies for me. I need a hoodie for my trainer. I'm like, yo, dog, you know these hoodies is bucking. You know what I mean?

Like, yo. And she say it matter of factly too, like. But yes, boss. Did you give it the hoodies? Yeah, I did.

All right. That's all that matters. We don't play when come to miss. When we do our pop out show in. In the city.

We ain't done a show in a while, but when we do our pop out in the city. You want to sell your merch for and keep 100%. I get a little bit. I don't want to. No, can't get a little bit.

I don't want to sell merch. Why? But can I get a little bit? I don't want to sell merch. Can you sell merch and I get a little bit?

Oh, you know, depends on what? A little bit. Let's talk. You need to sell merch, though. I'm open to the conversation.

You just get. No, there was a. There's a negotiating day, you know. You want to say he got some hoodies in the trunk right now. Ready?

I don't. Ready to go. I don't. I just seen him in front of Jack's Lobster and Shrimp down the street.

That's why you be ignored. That's what it is. Oh, man. Being new selling hoodies, you got to have some stain. The stuff.

You got the bull. You got the. The Mexican dude in there. If we do a pop up show, Mark, can I get some of the bean pie and incense and can he lay some pamphlets out? No, the books.

Can he lay some pamphlets out? The books? That's gonna be the move. That's how you gonna get. I'm on to you now.

I see what you want too? Yeah, yeah. Ever since he first told us, I was like, oh, you using this for a long time. Like a long game. Long game.

Gonna be out there recruiting, yo. Whatever it take, man. Think about that. The merch. Opportunity, opportunities we can have.

Because we all sell and got when we do the Pop out show. Yeah, I'm gonna sell some hoodies. You gotta think about that. Books. You got eight books.

I don't like selling my books, but I sell merch. I sell apparel.

When you plan on doing this show, boy? Oh, you ain't get. You ain't got. I gotta check the calendar now. No, I'm good.

No, listen, I'm just here to support. Are there three days? You got. You got it down. Down to three days, idiot.

I'm here. I'm a team player. Look at Mark. Mark. Want to have fun with me?

Look, look, you know, I do have to check the calendar, but when you plan just a floating concept. End of the year, after me and Asian go shoot a little bit of them. That hoodie, yo, I can't. They was clown. They was clowning Ice.

They was clowning Ice. Cuz he got his iPhone cover already. His. The iPhone 17 covered. I got all my already, so.

Oh, I need to get phone too. You got the early phone? Yeah, let's go. You got a hookup? No.

Oh, all right. Pay for price, hook up, call cash. When the phone came, I thought. It ain't came out yet. Phone come out Friday.

Next Friday. Somebody called me yesterday and asked for the Crane Club hookup.

Did you pass the law? I didn't hit him back. I don't even know how to. I don't know. Oh, I'mma call him later.

That's my man. But I ain't know how to.

It's gonna look like I'm shady and I ain't. It was rocking in there the other day. I heard it was rocking in there the other night. I'm sure. I'm sure they be lit.

They'd be lit. I don't have anything else that's super important or urgent. I don't. I don't. I'm cool.

I'm chilling. Peace, love, health, wealth and prosperity. We lit. We lit. This is a great episode, man.

Yeah. Good. Love you, boy. Done some fine work here. No matter what happened, I love you.

No, that's a fact. That's. Yeah. That's the part that. No matter what happens at all.

Yeah. You know how I feel about you. Even if I got it, you know, I mean, you gotta do what you Gotta do. Hey, that's what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying?

It's a lot. It's a headache. It's a headache dealing with me. You did enough. You know what I'm saying?

You had a run. I did? Yeah. I mean, you caked up. Yeah.

Built the oil. You did it. It really not. You did it. You did it.

Yeah. You did it. Not sign no paperwork when I leave, but yes, you are. No, I'm not. I'm gonna kick your back.

You gonna have a footprint of your shit. Well, I'm not even like the guy I got ready here to call. You gonna take a check. No, I'm not. Nitty might pop up on me.

Hey, yo, what you did the joke. He be popping out of nowhere in at a diamond. A check in a nitty core. Yeah. Me nothing.

Listen, anyway, n working on. Yes. Do y' all have anything that's. Should we do sleepers? No, just you.

I think. I think we've hit a. I think we hit the point. I think we time. I concur.

Where you got to go? Yo, I got nowhere to go. Stop rushing, men. Don't be be playing with them. Yo, it just feels like a natural end.

Stop rushing us, miss. I'm not rushing. Add it to the patriot. I don't give a. I'm here all day. I'm just saying make sure we've hit a natural.

What are you. You only be here. What are you talking about? Don't rush us. Don't rush us.

Who's us? The team. You the ten day contract. Yeah. Oh, please, please.

No matter how you can be. The new prostate wouldn't let me go like that, boy. Boy, I don't you want to see my boy. Watch your mouth when you talk to me. I'm Jesus nephew up here.

Watch your mouth when you talk to me. But you're my man. I love you, man. I love you too. See that?

He gonna laugh at this. Listen back. Oh, look at these going at him. We can't really talk what we want to talk about. We could.

I ain't got nothing to say. They're like, get rid of him now.

I can't believe he chose this loudmouth, unhealthy, fat. Get out of here. They would tie me up, yo.

I don't give a. They got the broadcast. Would laugh. Just know that lacking now, man, we would all be more. A lot more peaceful and happy.

But the airwaves, they would feel the effect. They would. I love y'. All. Listen, man.

Good episode. Good Episode today, a lot was said and not said. Yeah, Ego, if I was in my 20s in the 90s, I'm telling you something, that's where you got me. That's the one area you got me at. Using your 20s in the 90s, you wasn't gonna do.

90s, huh? It have been the same. Nah, in the 90s, had lugs on.

Yo. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time we bid you adieu. Farewell, adio.

Cereva dirche. Hasta la vista. Au revoir. So long, Goodbye, Ego. Shout out to everybody in Vegas.

Anybody at the airport, anybody at Teterboro. Moving around. Be careful out there. If you in Vegas, travel safely. That's a good fight y' all at.

Good fight y' all at.

Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Last but not least. The baddies are insecure, the stagnant. Women want to travel in the closed minded.

Women want you to teach them things. Grab you with Tylenol, you might need it.

What y' all doing this weekend, man? What's popping? What's popping this weekend and the battle. I'm watching football and football y football. I'm coming to your crib to watch a fight, boy.

You're more than welcome. You're more than welcome. The way to watch something, I can eat that mooking Mook and hitman battle. Hitman. Yes.

I ain't forgetting about shout out to Chilla Jones. Chill, I'mma hit you. You. I'mma hit you. Chilla.

Your brother battling jazz, right? Yeah. Oh, what up, yo? The packers look like the real deal. Oh, yeah.

Best team football, by the way. Yeah, for sure. I'm not mad at that. As of right now. I'm not mad at that.

The packers look like a real deal. They legit. Who you think is better is. You have to be saying true. Well, as of right now.

Right now, as of right now, they look like them. He answer questions. Yeah, I ain't see the. I ain't see the whole game yesterday. I only seen a little bit of the game.

I was out. They're for real. They're like that. That defense is insane. That looks tough.

I ain't got too much going on this weekend. I'm watching the fight, I'm watching some football. I'm moving around. I'll find somewhere to bring my girl.

He said I don't take her nowhere. Now I got to show off a little bit. Hey, when they do that. Till next time. Happy anniversary to the lamont Hills.

Hey, hey.

Lamar Hill. His wife named yes. One of my favorite couples. Congratulations. Shout out to them.

Shout out to y'. All. And that's that, man. My anniversary coming up. Huh?

My anniversary coming up. What day is the 17th of September? Oh, you shocked? Nah, just look. Oh, I just remember.

God damn. Double booked.

Never double. Happy anniversary to Flip. Shout out to Linky, man. Yeah, Flip and Linky. Happy anniversary to y' all as well.

17 years. 17 years on the 17.

Congratulations. Thank you. Stop smiling, boss.

Keep on moving. I'm glad you caught it. Hey, wait a minute. It go. Y' all hold it down out there, man.

Peace, love, health, wealth and prosperity.

Hey, remember, life is a series of moments and moments past. So let's make this one last as if it's a no. I'm letting it go. It's a minute left, y'. All.

Hey, shout out to the patronies out there. Shout out to the subgroups. If you are not subscribed, go over to Patreon right now, man.

Sa y' all are down out there, man. Same time, same place next week.

Jvp.

We'll fold that up right now. Don't look away now. Gay people work for me right now. I'm damn near around gay people every day because they work for me. I don't got no problem with them.