Transcript of Episode 770 | "Mr. Plus 1"

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I can't live with you as a grown man.

Yo, y'all niggas just love y'all dance. That's all.

I love it.

Y'all love. No, not you. Mind.

Your love is different.

Mind your business. We've been around. Yeah, we ain't talking to you. We talking to J1 and Ish.

I don't even know what you niggas.

Yes, Jwon did an interview where he interviewed his dad.

Fire.

He could not stop showing his teeth. The whole time I was high, like. With every. With every story Kiss told J1. Even the Diddy store. Yo, I was at the puff party, J1 looking up just like a proud son.

Yeah.

Teeth wouldn't stop showing. Mad you had dimples.

Yeah, you had dimples in your face. You ain't look hard at me. Niggas look like a papa student.

Look like. Yo, I love my dad so much, and he just wasn't around for me. Yeah, he wasn't anyone had more kids that he fucking held down. Like.

Then he said that powerful line.

Yeah. Oh, and then he was about to cry. You tried to. You tried to hit him. No, not you. Well, yeah, you. When you try to hit, you. Well, yeah, yeah, you. You tried to hit him with the trick question. But kids from the old school, yo, what's your greatest gift? And Kiss it? You. You, nigga, if you don't get the out of here with this trick annoying ass question you now. I love you, yo. God damn. I know you mad about some shit.

Stop it.

We did not.

We didn't.

They had them already.

Don't interrupt with the truth.

You didn't.

Yeah, we don't give a about.

We going with the lies.

Yes.

And on top of that, you ain't know. On top of that, you ain't know he was gonna say that that hit you.

Did you know? Did you know that you was his greatest gift?

No, I thought he was gonna say something else.

Exactly. N. We know that. Cause we saw yo Clap it up.

For JW Being Jay the Kiss.

When we said that, the titty party.

Shit, though, I expected that. I started dying. I couldn't help that one.

When he said that, J1, it looked like it was Christmas time for you, nigga. You know when you're a kid and you get that big gift, you just look happy. That made me feel good.

That was the big.

I'm like, yeah, Jay, Mommy ish.

I don't know if you.

I know I was the favorite. The favorite child that everybody said, but.

I ain't even talking about the kids. I don't know if you a greater gift than his rapping ability.

Look, listen to this, N. That's what.

You would have said.

What's your greatest gift?

That's what you would have said.

How you gonna tell n son that?

No, that's what he would have said, y'all. What's your greatest gift?

So what's your greatest gift?

My children. And when you have kids, you understand that this dad answers. When I asked my mom who her favorite kid is, she say, you for six months. And you for six months.

Yeah, my mom's.

That's just. That's the appropriate parent answer. But in real life, they got a head.

Whoever needs my love at that time.

You got to remember he got to say his children. Because first of all, Trey, listen. And Trey has a history of dissing the nigga on record. Hey, yo, pops.

And he getting nice with.

Nicer with the pen.

Well, that's not fair. I started dissing him on records first. And his mama. That's it.

I didn't know that joke.

So I think that he should be able to clap back, shout out to J. I, like. Cause some of my haters be, oh, his son's been dissing him forever. My son got the clap back gene in him like his dad, and I'm proud of that. Facts. Yeah, facts.

Facts.

It's fucked up when you writing those songs about their parent. Like, when they grow up and get to hear the songs. Yeah, but now you know what's going on now. Yeah, you know, you 23. You know what time it is. You in the game. You being targeted. You being targeted out there. You having your woman woes. I love when they experience what we experience. Oh, yes.

What?

That's bad?

Yes.

Oh, man.

Why is that bad?

Because.

Thanks, Mel.

You give us some game. I remember that happened to me, my relationship in college. I had my pops, like, on some Trey Joe shit like, yo, bro, why you didn't tell me you should get like that? Nigga ain't even respond. I said, wow, okay, cool.

I mean, I feel like there's information and, you know, that you can pass down to your kids, but then there's other things that they just have to experience, you know, bumping their heads up on the wall.

They ain't gonna listen to you anyway.

Until they go through.

Since we told my dad, I'm gonna ask you a question.

You love your dad, too?

Yeah, who said I.

Did you ever have. Did you ever have a conversation with your dad? Like, you ever. Were you one of them that lived.

With my father before?

Yeah, but as a grown man.

You said I live with my father as a grown up.

Yeah.

Did you have a conversation with him like, yo, nigga, what's up? Like, did you. Were you one of them that. Were you, like, what happened? What went wrong? Or you just left it as it is and you lived in the moment?

I ain't really go through all that because he was.

You didn't do that. You didn't go back. Oh, you lived in the moment.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I like that.

He was short.

I wasn't.

That might be a short.

But you said that you was 5:1 until you caught your growth spurt.

I was 5:3 in 12th grade.

That's very.

When I lived with my father, I was grown.

That's not. That's not tall enough to buck.

Who is that height in your graduation picture?

You think. You think 5:3 is tall enough to bucket your dad?

For real? No.

Yeah, Come on, man.

That's like your daughter height.

But this nigga, you so you know.

Why you quiet?

You know what it is? You so macho that nigga. You even have a conversation with your pops at a moment of vulnerability. That's how macho you are. Let's live in the moment. Nigga, go cook. I'm gonna cook some food. I just got shot. Pops. I don't want to talk about none of that emotional shit. Nigga, let's live and have fun. Did he check on you like, yo, you there. You know when nigga come in from work, knock on the door of you in your room?

Yeah, I was 20 something years old, my nigga. What that means my door shut. I'm there. What you talking like, yo, you there?

No, n. Go sleep.

I'm good.

That don't mean you did.

Are you feeling. Are you talking about when he got shot?

No, I'm just saying, like, usually, even as an adult, if you live with my experience, if you live with your parent, your parent will come when they come in the house, they'll check on you. Yo, what's up? Yo, you there? You in the room and shit like that. That's what I'm asking. If he experienced that.

He said his dad's door was closed.

No, my door was closed. If my door closed, nigga, I'm asleep.

Did you knock?

On what?

On your dad's door.

Stop. You get tight. Stop.

I'm not going to get tight. Because him and J1 want to see it with the truth today. I don't care about what they talking. I care about yo daddy.

Are you there?

Dad?

I got shot, dad. What the do I do? What do I do? I'm bleeding out. You police, nigga. Tell me what to do. I can't snitch, but you can tell.

Them niggas he made a left. He made a left and right.

I can't snitch, but you can tell him, nigga.

Yo, yo, we doing it for the dad, not the issue, man. Oh, oh, my bad. You too. You love your dad. Shout him out.

Yes, of course I love my father.

Her father passed away at a young age. When she was young, though, she still.

Got a rep. What that mean?

No, she got a rep. She said it was her hair wrong.

Cole.

She said that? Until she learned some things, she said.

Yes, but I still love the memory of the man very much so we.

Can'T play with it.

Shout out for you standing here.

Leave it alone. Let's bring the jokes back. That way you go already here, right? Wrap it up. Wrap it up. Anyway, back to you, Ish. All right, all right. Glad y'all in a good mood. Brother Freeze is not with us today, but he's here in spirit.

Always.

Hopefully. He's good, Ice, we love you. If you're listening. Yo, Max.

Just that fast. You heard?

It was sweet.

I wasn't gonna cry.

She's about to cry with us like we was poor minds.

I swear I wasn't gonna call.

She cried on the show.

Yeah, she cried. Poor minds. Yes, she cried on poor minds. Shout out to Lex. Shout out to Drea. Lex.

Dre. What up, baby?

We were all crying, okay? We were all crying.

Based off your story.

Well, no shared experiences.

Mel, you were doing some sad parting related.

Let me just say this.

And I love you, Corey.

Let me say, if hot and bothered is gonna be like that, count me out. Please don't cry. I wanna come up there. I wanna come up.

Okay?

And guess what. And guess what. When wifey starts going through menopause and.

You don't know what the fuck is going on.

My mother called me this morning about you. I'm going need you. I'm going come up there.

Nobody cares about when wifey is going through.

We are financially manipulating our Wives, you think can. They got to worry about their bills being paid to try to get jobs and MTAs and whatever they got in Houston.

Yeah, I'm sick of that line. Would you like it if I did the same? That's just a do it then. Why? I don't want to do it. What the you talking to me about?

To be honest, I wouldn't mind if.

You was paying all my bills.

I'm good.

Do your thing. That was ish. That was ish everything.

Go ahead, rock out.

That paying all your bills come with some stipulations and people don't want to accept it. Dude, it's rules. It's rules. If I'm paying 15,000amonth in bills for you, nigga, there's rules, nigga. I want shit at the drop of a dime, nigga.

Come.

If I say book a flight, you have to come. Cause that money can go to something else. Martha.

Hello.

Z here. Like for real.

Yo, yo, yo. You know what? That is an important note to highlight. And I'm glad that I didn't highlight.

This rule for fee. Financially.

Depends if your bills are being paid to the degree of all of them.

10, yes.

15, 20 grand a month.

Yes. Talk about a joke.

There is fine print on that contract. There is. You need to take that to your attorney or your girlfriend who don't got that. True. Yeah. And get it together now. We can't say that somehow because feminine is feminine. I can't even say. What's the word? Feminism.

Feminism.

Femininity.

Femininity.

Stupid ass word.

It's got stutter built in.

He's right.

Oh, man, he's right, Mel.

Man, you know he's right. Mel. Mel, you nigga. When a paid your bills, you almost went into a cult. N A, you was down, nigga. When a nigga paid your bills, you was down with the cause. Need to follow your rules, follow your movement. Give me pounds.

Mel was definitely.

I can see it.

She was in the cult.

She was in the cult.

Now she come up here to rebrand.

Yeah.

Now she come up here, we'll talk about. And Quincy is the king. She is the king. Christ the Lord. Yeah, Ranch. You want to come up here and talk about menopause?

A preacher in the house she was in.

We don't want to hear about menopause. We want to hear about the sex cult.

We want to hear about that.

When you was in the mountains of Utah.

Another day, another story for another day.

She would never tell that's why Love you.

That's why she the best?

That's why she can make a U turn.

That's why she the best.

A lot of women can't u turn like male unless they. I can't say that part. But Mel make u turn because she hold it down like when they bump into her, like, oh, you ain't. You ain't blow me up about that cult shit. You know, I was wild even when I press the.

I love her.

I said, damn, she cool like that.

Yo, y'all keep making me lose my face. You held it down about that culture.

I be holding it down on some fucked up shit.

You do, man. You do. Yo, shout out to the women out there that hold it down about the.

Cult, but the other women get offended when we say that because you're not.

Supposed to say that.

Yeah, they saying that.

Yeah, you're not supposed to say that. That's horrible. Yeah, Mel, Asian J. Warren, boy, he's.

Still about to cry that patriarch him up, remember?

What?

Think it went to the bathroom.

All right, we got a great show lined up for y'all. Maybe. Maybe a lot of shit going on with some Randy's comedy, man. Oh, oops.

Oh, I can hold up. That's Randy come out the pawn shop.

Without his chains and his watches.

Oh, he doesn't sold them shits.

He's broke. He's popped again.

Yo, Brokey.

I mean, Randy.

What's up?

What up, y'all? Yo, what happened, Mr. Money Man? You coming to Oscar Stone pay me now? We achieved that, blood.

Nah, just some.

I just had them hold it for.

Me for a second. Hold it, hold it, bro.

What you mean you let them have it?

Cause you broke now.

Now you can't flex right.

I needed some extra cash.

Oh, hell, I just made a quick 30 bands, bro.

30 bands.

Like it's worth it.

Nah, gang, I just clock your tea. You really pop right now. We was waiting for this.

Y'all was waiting for me to go broke. Yeah, we was.

Stay showing off the stay gravitating towards you.

Now they're not going to come around you no more. Now nothing but Y my means, I.

Pray you run through them 30 bands mad quick. And I'm not letting you borrow nothing, bro. It's going to be a cold winter.

Yo, yo, yo, what the popping, man? It's the drama king, man.

Yo, who there?

Who? That's the sound of the man.

Rest in peace always, my chick. 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2. Waking up out there Waking up in.

There say, who shot you? Still flat Dream shot you feel burning I got you if you care for me cause I'm on edge I'm put a shell in a rock a lot of ice I dare you to scheme on it the fifth got a rubber.

Grip and a beam on it homie.

That took the hit on me couldn't shoot they say I'm skinny now but I look bigger than the cool my cousin Uzi out in LA I write my lifestyle y'all is cheaters your lines come from fed fellas and don't even hold you to black Hannah Jefferson why your name ain't preaching shout out to.

The big stage ever always, always, always.

You want to fall like Kirk always for the ladies always for the ladies I'm familiar with problems I know how to solve them semi automatically a trade revolve em shoot em up rob them in the hoop you starving you don't.

Want problems problem solving and why can't you be man enough to tell?

Already told me you paying to run with him. I could let a New York knife poke him with one of my throwaways but I don't want to see no cop smoker. Somebody tell Paul riding get ready to auction off the car. Dying never. We bump head since you like having people with you get you a hospital with bung beds without Dr. Dre you would just make slow jams come up out of that witness protection program. Old don't really respect you getting your place. If Big was alive, he probably spit in your face now doing just fine without you Pac probably would have made an album about you here. So I guess that just leaves me here to get rid of you and rock him and them they don't even consider you ain't got nothing for Jada and I know. We appreciate that's all the money you made them. It's 2005. Nobody fights fair. I just know an instrumental is your worst nightmare. But you tough and you bad. Too bad you mad. Probably been in your old hood more than you have. Yeah you sold more records than me. But in the streets you gonna always.

Be second to me.

When you was damn near feeling you even know your career is based off somebody damn near killing you. Shit you be doing. Ain't even consider rapping to us. Nah, this is probably the best thing to happen to us. The best wankster, Internet gangster magazine, mobster.

On your whole roster.

If they need to say Hail Mary's and our fathers get out your black suits and hard bottoms and don't worry, I got them. We ain't a problem child, just a child with a problem we love each.

Raps, you know.

Feeling good, feeling great. Feeling good, feeling great. Huh?

What trick is that?

She's in a good mood. I'm in a good mood. Good vibes. Positivity throughout.

That's real violent music for a bright ass.

Good vibes.

Hey, yo, I know and I know they cost some money.

A look like $1,000 Fresh Prince that.

Look like an ice cream cold.

Gender reveal ready?

Gender reveal, ready.

We do n. Yeah, he look like.

Is it a boy or girl? Both.

Wait, it's twins. You hop out of cake. You lit 500,000.

Microphone check. Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike. What episode is. Welcome to episode 770 of the Joe Button podcast, brought to you by fueled by power by prize picks. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, and highly favored host, Joe Button, with some really amazing people. To my right. Big Melissa Ford is in the building. Queens flip is in the building. Ish is in the building. J1 is in the building. Parks is in the building. PO is in the building. Corey is here. Erickson is here. Savon and Tana are here by remote. And last but certainly not least, each and every one of you are out there. Now back to my agenda reveal. Al, I wore this to Daisy age or your day. I wore this to. To. Girls love karaoke the other night.

I heard you.

I heard you dress like a little Nice pajama set up.

I heard you was in there, and I heard it was all right.

That's definitely.

Tough crowd. Tough crowd.

Socks, how was the karaoke?

What'd you say?

Girls love karaoke. Shout to Manny. Of course. Shout to ag finesse. Girls love karaoke. Was nice. Hey. Hey. And they do.

They do.

They absolutely do. And they do.

They do.

So, yeah, it was a real good time over there. I got there early. I got there at about, I want to say, 10, 10:30. My guy Monty met me over there. Shout out to E. Oh, y'all did a duet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nice crowd. Nice crowd. On the early vibe. Shout to. Damn.

Who?

What? Who's the DJ killing that? Who was the first class?

First choice, I think first choice.

First choice. First class. I'm old school. Shout out to first choice. He was. Absolutely. And shout out to first class. But he was smoking the, you know, people are still coming in R B set. Like a real R B party set, Right. So I was in absolute heaven for a few hours. A lot of girls kept coming in here. But then.

Did you cut a rug?

I didn't. No, I didn't cut a rug. I sat there like the G that I be. Did you sing? Nah. And no, I left before anybody started singing.

Wow.

I was sitting there, and I hadn't taken the old nigga nap.

Start yawning.

I hadn't taken a nap.

You guys, why don't you just go hit the.

Yo, 44. Is me up.

Why don't you just go hit the truck for. For a little quick 30?

Yeah, it ain't the same.

Because you're right.

I don't have to live like that. Go in the truck, take a nap, and then go back out. Like, I'm never that thirsty for the party. So I'm sitting there, I'm getting tired. I'm hungry. I'm hungry. I'm sitting there battling the discipline to eat after 10pm, 11pm so I left. I went home, went to bed. Didn't. Didn't hit a strip club. Didn't see Bernice sing. Didn't see nobody sing a thing.

Damn.

Damn.

See, was there when Teyana came in. Shout out to Teyana Taylor. It was good crowd in there. Good vibe Davies, everybody. But, yeah, I'm going to bed. I'm going to bed. I see. That's one of them things I gotta come to at midnight, probably. I gotta. Yeah, I gotta come here late. Yes.

New York.

But really good. Really good crowd in there. Oh, just real nice time.

Look like it.

Real nice time. Real nice time in there.

Yeah, it looked like it.

Why you keep making that little stupid face?

No, just. It looked like it.

You to have fun.

No, a couple people hit me. Was like, y'all seen Joe come in while you wasn't with Joe at. I was like, oh, was that.

I don't. No, no, no. I just. Did you tell him you don't be with Joe? Like, why are people.

It was at the day that you went to the game with Mark.

Oh, floor seat.

I thought that that was AI. The picture that was floating around.

Antoine ish.

That was me.

Anyway.

That was me.

Oh, he might be a rapper. Antoine ish is AI in initials when you break it down. No, for real. So why are you gonna let her get that shot?

Let me ask you a question. How did that. How did that. How did that happen?

What?

How did you end up.

The basketball date?

Yeah, the basketball. The bromance. The bro vision. How did it happen?

Mark hit me. He was like, yo, what you doing? I'm like, shit, what's going on? He said, yo, I got tickets to the game. You want to go to the game? I was like, who they playing? He said, the Bucks I'm like, hell, yeah. So.

So you drove down there.

Yeah.

So you went to the game, but you spilled coffee on my clothes in your car when you dropped me home. And you supposed to put my shit in the cleaners. You didn't. But you on the floor at a.

Game, nigga, I got you on espn.

On espn. Hey, you look good.

Thank you.

Yeah, I didn't like that. No, don't thank me. N. I wasn't happy. I'm trying to look at these two stupid niggas. I was hanging on y'all. Look at these fools. Nigga, they sent me the picture. I'm like, oh, come on.

Ish.

You didn't even invite nobody neither.

Well, he was the best one.

Yeah.

I was about to say, I'm gonna invite somebody. That some shit.

That's the problem. Everybody invites you places, but you don't invite anybody. It's a pattern. Pattern. That's your bag. That's how you get away with. You're always invited. Why you didn't invite me? I'm a plus one. That's. You missed a plus one.

There you go.

No, make me your plus one. All right? You ashamed of us?

Make me your plus one.

You missed it, but I got you. And it speaks volumes that people prefer you to be there. Plus one.

I appreciate that.

I know what you do. You do that stupid lip trick.

You do that on the corsa.

Yeah, you did that on the corsa.

Sitting there talking a hole in Marc Lamont ear.

Yeah, y'all had a super bromance after that. Y'all were really twitted.

They bonded.

That's stupid, yo. No, the game was a runaway. It wasn't really close. So we were just kicking it like the game wasn't, like. Wasn't fun.

It wasn't.

You know what I'm saying? Cause it wasn't close. They was losing by damn near 20.

Half the game you talking about. Philly was losing.

Yeah.

What do you talk about at a game like that?

They were pod really basketball shit for the most part.

On the court while a game is going on. You analyzing.

Yeah. That's literally what was going on. On like that not that good.

You overrated, yo. Stop talking.

Saying A in the league is overrated or not that good.

Watch the game. Catch a vibe. Courtside. Look cool.

That's hate.

Jo Le. That why you can't.

I hate on him, too. I hate him, too.

N. Just look cool. The camera just about to pin you.

I didn't even know the game was on ESPN or none of that.

I didn't know that superstar is.

Did you know it was the season opener?

Yeah, but I didn't know. I mean, well, Philly Bucks, two of the biggest teams. Yeah, Philly Bucks would be televised, but I wasn't thinking about that.

Did you see Stephen A. Right there?

No, but it's cool.

Stupid.

Did Stephen A. See you?

I don't know. Stephen A. Was there.

I don't know. I ain't seen your game. You think I seen you on my tv? I don't know. I seen you on Reddit. See you on Reddit. See you on my tv.

Stay off the Internet. See, you are real.

You're looking good, though. You look good up there. Thank you, sir. I appreciate it.

You run into a lot of fans?

Yeah, a couple. Couple?

Okay.

Philly is.

I didn't know you and Mark was that close.

It's cool.

Well, when you all exchange numbers. When y'all exchanged phone numbers.

Yo, dog, what's wrong with you, son?

It's a valid question.

Why is it valid? Cause Joe said it.

That conversation looked deep as hell.

Yeah.

Cause the only reason we didn't congratulate you when he announced. Announced you on the POD was it wasn't personal.

That is what it was, yo. Nah, stupid. You really agree you're great help to all of them. Don't argue with camera.

Don't argue with the community. They just gonna hate you.

Yeah, give them some POD tips while the game is on.

The game is playing, bro.

I didn't know he was on tv.

He didn't stay for Patreon, so we don't know when the numbers switch. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna get down to the bottom of this. That. That little bromance.

I told y'all. I thought I told y'all. Oh, and Mark is here on Wednesdays. One day off for everybody. Wednesday per month. Yeah, well, Tuesdays.

Tuesdays, but, yeah, that's it.

Nothing to figure out. Nothing to figure out. No, everything is cool.

I'm good. I got three days off. I'm high. I'm high. Look like she don't like that. Hey, yo, your girl.

What did I do now?

You know what you did.

I swear I don't.

You text me. You tried to press me this week.

Oh, I'm done with y'all. I'm done. I'm done with Charles.

Got it. No, it's nothing bad. Nothing bad. Yeah, it's all love.

All right.

No, it's all love.

And then I went to speak at the Steve Stout the other day that.

Saw you up there shining.

You mean shining that the lights was bright.

Oh, he had it all out.

What? What? Like. Like titties lying.

You wore the Russian ring.

Yeah, he wore the ring.

He pulled the sleeve so they could see the.

You know.

Cause you know, I got brain, you know, I got my gut.

My gut. Tell me what to do. You know what I mean?

I'm be in these rooms and the money, you know what I'm saying?

Be all over.

I heard your corny joke. It be all over the place. You know my gut. You know, I gotta rule with the gut. I come from the outside of the.

Streets watching my clip, watching my clip from the gallery. I had a good time. I don't normally speak at those. On those types of panels and things of that nature, but Steve called his favor at a good time. That's my man. I showed up, had a good time. A lot of people there.

Was it just you and Steve on the panel or.

No, it was just him and I that spoke at that time.

Gotcha.

I think he spoke to 50. I think he spoke to cam.

I saw a cam clip too.

I think I saw a cam clip. I saw a 50 clip, but. And the ride into Brooklyn wasn't so bad. It was an hour. But it was an hour in motion.

You took that scenic route that we.

Was talking about at the party. No, not at all.

It was in Brooklyn.

It was at the office.

It was in Brooklyn. I don't know whose office. I don't know. I get the address, I give it to the driver, I go. But it was no traffic. But it was no traffic. So that was smooth. Dumb of us. Yeah, stupid us. And I went to the black owned restaurant over here that Mel gave the review one.

Which one?

On that other part, I'm not going to say, but the one that Mel spoke about. And that was cool. Yeah, that was real nice. Too. Nice. Yeah, some paella was good.

Oh, that was that big ass pa.

Yes.

That was huge pause.

Yeah, it was good though.

Did you bump into anybody at the Steve Stout event?

No, it was crowded.

Yeah, it was a lot of people in there.

Bathroom.

How would I bump into somebody? I don't. I don't do communal green rooms.

I thought you did. I'm sorry.

Those dicks.

Never that peasantry firm.

Communal green room. Think that's how I got punched in the face.

Communal green.

Anybody just walk in the door. Hey, there you go. There you go.

Yo, you had said.

Yeah, I ain't. Communal green room is exactly where they want to come talk about what I said on the pod. Never that. No, but good times. Shout out to Steve Stout, man. Fun, fun, fun. All right, let's get right to it. Let's get right to it. Where would you guys like to begin? Dirk.

Yes.

Okay, so we start with Dirk. The Fed snatched dirt. Dirk or the marshal. The U.S. marshals.

Yeah. And snatched in Broward County. Dirk.

That's Florida, right?

Broward County.

Broward, yes.

Yeah.

Y'all know any holes from over there?

Probably.

Y'all definitely know some Broward county holes? For sure. Possibly. They need a segment on a Patreon. Shout out to y'all out there in Broward County. Yeah.

Yeah. Special.

Yeah.

Better than D. Different from Dade. Different from day.

What cities are in Broward?

It's all Miami, I think.

Oh, is it?

That's the. Wait, that. Like the south end of it.

I don't. It's away. Yeah.

That's where Kodak from.

It's down.

Exactly.

So it makes sense.

Just say Kodak. Exactly.

This is down.

It's down there. But anyway, so they snatched him in Florida along with five other people from Chicago. Yes. That are from Chicago. And this is murder for hire.

This is sad.

That's his charge.

So guess what?

Supposedly he organized a hit.

Yeah. On. And they're saying that this goes back to when King Von lost his life.

Was killed one of Quando Rondo's.

And then. Yeah. Quando Rondo's man died with him in la, Right. During that shootout. So they. The feds are saying that plane tickets and rental cars or whatever were purchased and rented through OTF cards. On. They saying they have more information about who paid for this murder fire, but they haven't released that yet. All signs are pointing to. They're going to try pin this on dirt. That's what I got for you. If that's blurry, then Google it. I'm not here to be a journalist. I'm here to talk about the real aspect of it, which is just what the fuck?

What the fuck?

I feel like, you know, with respect to Dirk, I feel like he knew something was coming because, you know, during his birthday, he paid homage to all the fallen soldiers in Chicago. I mean, he's been trying to really change up the image and the whole Chicago drill, dissing opps. You know, he put everybody on the screen on his birthday. He did a birthday concert in Chicago. And even the people. I mean, everybody was on that picture.

He had the opps up there.

Yeah. Everybody just paying respects to all the fallen soldiers. And in Retrospect, when I think about it, it's like I felt like he knew something was coming and he just wanted to distance himself from that. Whether they were investigating, whether he got wind that they were looking into things. Just think he wanted to move himself from that and portray a cleaner image or he probably felt that inside. He probably felt inside that it's time for me to get away from that because too many people are dying. Cause Dirk went through a lot.

I think it could be true what you're saying. I think also when you get removed from the jungle, you know what I'm saying? Like you, you, you lose some of that and then, you know when you start getting a certain type of paper, because I'm sure he's far removed from the hustling, hustling days, you know what I'm saying? So. And then you start surrounding yourself with some more positive people. I'm sure some of the OGs talking to him, you know what I'm saying? You start seeing that this shit is self destructive for us as a people, you know what I mean? So you start trying to pivot away from that and kind of, you owe it to yourself to, to instill some shit in some younger people, you know what I'm saying? So they don't make the same mistakes you made. So I think that's where he, like, I've heard him talk a couple times. That's the type of time he was on. Supposedly.

He lost a lot of people in his life.

Yeah.

The unfortunate thing is when you're around these people, I've been around them a lot of times, he's a nice guy. And sometimes our environment makes us, you know, who we are. That's true, right? Our environment and trying to get away from that. You'd be surprised how these people who lose so much people and seen so much in their life, when you just have a conversation, they're just like you and I, you know what I mean? And sometimes environment, circumstances and the jungle.

You're in the jungle, you're in the.

Jungle, make you who you are, you're.

Gonna be a wolf, you're gonna be a lion to survive in the jungle. But once you removed, you might become a, you know what I mean? Just a regular standup citizen. I think that they might. A lot of us, you know what I'm saying? Kids grew up in an inner city like that on some survival instinctive shit. And then when you get removed, you.

Change your tone and it's hard to talk about really. For me, it's just Hard to talk about these things. But it's not hard even if you have a relationship because you don't know who you're affecting on the other side. So you have to be mindful in when people have accusations against them and how you speak about them. I can speak from personal relationships, but I don't want to take away from anyone who may have suffered or feel that they allegedly suffered from the situation.

Yeah, I'm tired of seeing. Seeing up and coming rappers either lose their lives or get incarcerated to like this. And I'm tired of seeing all the. I saw J1 tweeting earlier and I see people responding to it and it's like, why does everyone know so much about it? About it?

And that was one thing like.

Like this should not be happening.

A.

And if it is happening, it shouldn't be public information on the Internet that everybody's talking about like SportsCenter. It's weird.

Yeah, yeah. That's the part of it I don't like. There's no reason we should know so much before the case is even over. Even with it being public and people making whole videos, it makes it like it's in the name of content. I don't think problems like this should be made in the name of content. Like, you feel me? Like, that's almost cop work. That's like we all come from where we come from. We see niggas saying, yo, bro, all right, we ain't talking about that right now. You feel me? Wait till it happened, then we talk about it.

But.

But you got poindexters and nerds on social media just talking about it from a standpoint. And then you got people who's, who's just looking at it like, fuck em, throw away the key. And some people may feel like that, but Dennis also looking at it from the standpoint of like he's lost people. They've lost people to just think now they got the money. Forget all about it is like it takes the human side out of it. Like, money isn't going to make somebody forget about. About all the friends and family members they lost and no longer grieve. You can't tell a person how to grieve just because they got money.

Mel.

What.

She on your timing? She be. She be outside. She.

I am not outside. I'm just.

I'm just asking what you thought of everything.

Yeah, yeah, I'm with.

Yeah, yeah.

She was thinking about Ariana Grande.

I'm not thinking about Ariana Grande. I'm not thinking about Ariana Grande. I'M thinking that you guys hit the nail on the head. Parks observation. And Jaewon's observation is correct. Like the fact that this is fodder for everybody to talk about before all the facts are out. It's just. This isn't. We have created this atmosphere in which content is everything and it really actually isn't because so many of the facts get mixed up in fiction and it just kind of dilutes the whole situation. So that's just my personal.

It's by design though, right? Like we have to acknowledge that facts. It's by design. These drama filled crimes.

Hey, freeze. I'm gonna kill you, boy.

Yo.

Hey, Freeze. When you make it to work, I'm gonna kick your ass. I got a trick.

Those are nice.

Oh, my God. Okay, okay, okay. So what y'all was saying? We praying for Dirk and it must be hard to come from where he come from. What you say? What y'all were saying?

Yeah, all that.

We said all that right there. Said it's by design.

Okay, next topic.

You don't have an opinion?

I have quite a few opinions, but I don't know if this is the room for them now that I've heard y'all. Maybe y'all are right.

No, no, wait, hold on. No, you can't. You can't. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Because that say something crazy. They still follow you.

I don't think nobody said nothing crazy.

I know, I'm just saying you might.

Just differ in opinion.

I'm threatening to say something crazy. That's what I'm saying. I'm just bothering him, but I want to hear you.

I think this is stupid. I think this is stupid. And I'm not going to sit here and oh, Dirk came from where he came from. He'll have his day. He'll have his day in court. So we'll see what part he has played in any of this. But that to the side. Like I was telling J1 earlier, King von and Young Boy, Young Boy beef wasn't over nothing. It wasn't over absolutely nothing. So it start there for me. I ain't gotta get into where everybody came from and what we seen and what we witnessed and who shot and who got killed. Y'all niggas don't be fighting over nothing. That was nothing. So now for that to escalate to the shit we witnessed in the parking lot with Vaughn and it was gonna be carryover from that we saw Quando Rondo reach out to fucking. What's that? Big you big you, we just seen him. We seen him for a few years. Look afraid for his. Like, we've seen this all. So, I mean, I don't want to add. We know too much. These niggas is putting it in songs. These niggas is putting it on Instagram reels.

These niggas are detailing and laying these things out. And the cops always been online, since online, been there. They watching like, niggas at some point have to hold themselves accountable for the part they play in a designed ecosystem. I agree with that. That's what I'm saying. So this is real unfortunate. And these are some of the same details that came up in the. In the YSL case. And these are some of the. Listen, the Rico lady down there said, yo, we coming with Rico's now. Like, if that didn't send the memo to people, hey, we are aggressively targeting y'all entertainers and rappers that are blurring the lines with your companies and your street ties.

I'm on the other edge of this.

Have at it. And no, I'm mad I even gotta come in here and talk about some of this shit.

But the only reason I'm on the other edge of this is because we seen, like, from the older artists, right? And we've seen and experienced, oh, them, they not like that. They're not like that. You feel me? We always hear this. That artist not like that. They not on that. Now, you see in a generation where artists are actually doing the things they saying. And it's like now you have the old artists saying, oh, them are stupid. But for years, we heard y'all calling each other out, saying, oh, he ain't knowing that. He ain't like that. And there's no guidance. There's no, yo, don't do it that way. Let me show you how to do it. The only person who tried to do that is Wallow. And he was not even able to give guidance because. Because he's in a position now where he can tell you where everything already started. There was no artist that took none of the younger artists from when they came in and was like, yo, hold on. I've been down that road. Let me guide you and show you how to switch it around. And that's why I have a disdain for, I would say, some of the older artists or the people on social media judging how everything's playing out.

Because you got to remember, we all around the same age. At least me and these artists. There's no, yo, little bro, this ain't how you do that. Like, you Feel me, they wait till it happened and then chastise us.

But a lot of times the young niggas don't listen anyway.

Niggas will listen to an old nigga who's coming from a. Like, where it feels sincere. When it don't feel sincere and it feel like you talking at us, then.

You'Re gonna get that pushback. So how do you deliver a message? If I'm speaking to you from what I know and my experience, and this is the way I know how to convey the message, why take it so personal instead of absorbing the knowledge? I had niggas do that to me where at a young age, I took it personal until I realized, like, nigga, no, he was just. That was the way that he conveyed his message, and I should have listened because he ended up. Whatever he said end up happening.

No, I feel. I feel like there's two ways to answer that. Like, one, it's hard to listen to a nigga who you feel you may have more money or motion than. That's one.

That's big.

Two, and it's how the message is said and the tone in which is conveyed. Like, it's always like, we had this conversation last podcast. It's the tone in which a person addresses you and brings it to you. Like, I would say, from how I've seen it, and we've seen different interviews with all the artists be like, oh, these are stupid. It's how they say it. The only one we've really seen come from a place of, like, it sound like they cared sincerely was Wallow. And we seen them do that with Thug in them and with Dirk in them. It's really a matter of.

I don't even like you saying that by the time you get to wallow, something is wrong.

No.

By the time it got to wallow.

Wow.

That was my point. That's my favorite emotion.

We know we murderer.

Yeah, you coming. You coming to wallow to promote your album. You're coming to Wallow to do a podcast. It just so happens he gonna give you. He gonna give you the good word while you're here on your album rollout. That means that this shit that's been in play, the problem has been in effect. I don't know what all this y'all saying has to do with senseless killing. To me, like, it's just senseless now. Yeah.

I don't think you should need 50 Cent to come and say, don't pay.

People to murder people, nor do. Right. Like, oh, my God.

And.

But if somebody Gotta say, yo, don't rent a car in your name and give it to somebody to kill somebody. We pass mentorship.

That's true. Not just that.

One and two, you talking about. It's hard to respect niggas when you got more money and more emotion. We've had this talk up here before too. What they doing in the streets today is going off how many bodies you got? So now you ask them. Listen to what you asking for old OGs to do. You asking for us to go and insert ourselves in the fray of niggers with 5, 7, 10, 15, 20 bodies? Yes. Who is volunteering to do that at 18?

At 19, who is volunteering to do that?

Not I.

And I think. I just think it. I think where Jake, I'm not disagreeing with what he's saying because that's happening. But this ain't about hip hop. These people were already in this life prior to becoming rappers. I'm assuming you get what I'm saying, Like, this ain't about hip hop. So like I said, these are. That's in the jungle, bro. When you in the jungle, you're gonna live by jungle rules. And that's what they doing. So I don't want to blame this on no old head hip hop artists and think that they are lacking in their ability to, you know what I mean, get a message across to young hip hop artists. This ain't about hip hop to me. This is about inner city that's going on all over the country.

No, I'm not placing the blame on old, only older artists. I'm saying, like just in our culture overall, like, you feel me? Like, it's all. Hip hop was based on the principal, really off the streets, like, you feel me? Everybody had to be the toughest, the hardest artists. And then it got to a point where we start seeing niggas really live in their raps.

But there was a lot of niggas back then real quick that was doing what they doing. A lot of them is coming home now. That was. That was living like that. It just wasn't on the Internet. And they did it different. It wasn't braggadocious. The rappers pretended to be the guys that they watch do it right. They pretended to be that guy. So they were around that. They were around them that was catching 10, 15 bodies, but they were just acting like it was them and got.

Shot over ghetto coron.

No, we don't sound like we no sound. Absolutely no, we agree with you. Senseless killings and stuff like that. Ben, what's the Next step, we agree.

You.

You coming from a standpoint to me like, yo, yo, he gonna have his day in court. It happened. You put yourself in that position. That's how. That's how I'm receiving your message. Yo, Y. Put yourself in that position. You should have known better.

Deal with it.

That's how I'm taking your message. So that's why I'm talking on the other side of it. If you don't mean that, I apologize. You know what I mean? But that's how I'm taking it.

I see all angles of it.

I agree. I understand what you're saying. You're not wrong. Like, this is over nothing. This is stupid. Got a lot of money, made it out the hood. Why the you is killing each other? Shooting each other, senseless killing. I'm with you on that as well. I'm with you killing a.

In your backyard. You hopping a plane.

No, but bigger.

You boarding a plane to go and shoot. Shoot in broad daylight by the mall in la. By the mall.

And what you stop.

Yo, at some. At some point, adults gotta start sounding like adults. I don't want to hear this. This. This team summit y'all talking about. You the same thing when them got the bussing right by the Renaissance Hotel in la. Broad daylight. Broad daylight. My same point about consonant in Union Square on a Friday. On a much different note exists here at some. No, you can't just grab a gun and start shooting in broad daylight where people that don't have nothing to do with your beef, your anger, your hurt, your hood problems, your. I'm a demon. I seen too much, so now I'm a demon nigga. Then go move that shit somewhere.

I agree with that. And if you're gonna do that, this.

Gonna even sound n. Been doing that since the beginning of the time.

That's the point. And they hoods and they jungles niggas is doing. You might not do that in these white people neighborhoods because you're gonna get caught. Niggas give a fuck over here. You know what I'm saying? But not just that. If you got enough money to get a nigga killed, get a nigga killed.

The right way, get the ninjas.

That's gonna sound bad.

It don't cost nothing to get somebody killed. Unfortunately.

Unfortunately, I'm not gonna be associated with it in no way, shape or form. It's not gonna be no id, it's not gonna be no rental car. It's not gonna be an airplane ticket. It's not gonna be nothing. That can remotely come about it, that gun's gonna come back to me. Kidding.

We're talking about niggas who are don't come from the greatest education system and not that smart.

I, I, I, I, I take the other side in that argument.

I take the other side too.

I take the.

If you're a legitimate street in the street was getting murdered at 17 and 18 years old in a manner that they didn't want to be attired to it.

Yeah. Dirk dad is his dad. Like he probably has had the greatest education on the effects of what this does.

That's a good point.

I ain't.

Yeah, it's a good point.

You had a front row seat. I'm just sick and tired of us. And again, I'm not really talking about him because he'll have his day in court. I don't know, I don't know nothing about none of that. They're gonna have to try and tie that money whatever they're trying to do. And I certainly ain't about to see any help no case. I don't know nothing about nothing. I'm just tired of seeing young, black, successful people. Successful people get the opportunity and lose it like that. Like that because of where we came from and the things we've endured and experienced. At some point, somebody has to be break the cycle.

But wait, but wait. When you said. Hold on. Yes, I agree with you. A lot of times these things be retroactive. Right? We know a person, the shit would serve free. Our brother, like the shit that he got involved in was retro. He changed by the time that they came and looked for him. A lot of shit be. A lot of shit be retro and over it. And to me, a lot, sometimes you do stuff in the moment. I'm not making any excuse. I do agree with him. But sometimes you do shit in the moment of 2016 or 15. It's the situation that you're in. Then you see something from a different perspective. You get around niggas like you or get around niggas that's showing niggas a different light. And be like, yo, you know, I want to do better. But that stain is still there and you have to deal with it.

Not in this instance, but you right.

I got what you said. And not in the surf instance either. Free to wave. Surf. I love him, but surf would be the first to tell you. I said n a moved. Africa. Africa, yeah, not Africa, but when he got away. But hey, stop. You didn't go. Now go, he said. Because yes, if you in the same Environment. Yes. Something retroactively that you did in your past is going to come back. I. I could not stop thinking of Chief Keef this whole time as an example of, or at least the only example I could think of of somebody that did it right, way, did the right way. I don't know about his past, his street ties, none of that shit. All I know is he got a record deal. Word spread fast around the industry about who he be like. It normally does. He wild out for a year, maybe the first year and a half. And any boogie he moved, he moved and we never heard a thing again. And yeah, he took advantage of the opportunity, rebranded, and is now recognized as the godfather of that sound and the fucking musical genius that he is.

True.

Nobody mentions his name with none of this other shit. Know why? Because he got an opportunity and seemingly stopped. And guess what? If he didn't stop, it wasn't in a song. It wasn't in a. Real good point. It wasn't on YouTube.

Live streamed.

Well, yeah, it wasn't dead. Yeah, it wasn't dead. I don't want to hear this shit from these now. I don't. I don't. Hey. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. If I went out there and did it, and I'm a little older, but if I went out there and did it, the word would be a little different from the people that love me. Nigga, what are you doing? What are you doing? I'm fucking leaving my dad house. Leaving my dad house. Omega left. It's me. And I forgot who I was with. Oh, it's my little brother. We make a left right there on, eh, it don't matter. But they had a memorial and news reporters all over there. Big crowds. I'm like, yo, what happened over here? My brother's like, yo, you ain't here. The lady left a four year old in the house for five days or a baby in the house for five days and the baby died. Like, wait, what? Like my brain can't compute some of the stuff that is happening out here and in hip hop. Yeah, another one. This is another one of those things.

It's another one's things. And y'all are in a system that's part of a system. Who do y'all think y'all be talking to on these microphones, in these booths, on these songs with these choruses and bars? Where do y'all think y'all. Who do y'all think is hearing this stuff? I just don't understand going on.

I Don't understand they self with hammers and all that. But, yo, you know, we don't play over. I'm like, they do. Yeah. You ain't lying.

It ain't too many people that figured out a way to have one foot in and one foot out.

Very hard to do.

I'm sad. It's like a whole generation of hip hop music and culture that is being just wiped off the map by dumb.

Yes, it's sad. Yeah. And then they gonna try to put, like this type of behavior.

This.

It's like an indictment on. There is an indictment on hip hop. Yeah, true. Going on right now. And they gonna try to put this behavior in there. When? I don't know if this is that.

It's not that.

I don't know if this is that. It's saddening. It's disappointing. I don't want to talk about none of this shit. Cause I don't live my life in a way that's conducive for me to understand. Understand it. So I shut the up about it. You know, maybe there's some points on the other side as to why people think that this is rational behavior, but it is not. And unfortunately, everybody got a phone. So we gotta stare at this and look at this. If you out there, choose your heroes wisely. That's what I have for you. Choose your heroes wisely. Be careful. You. You pick the person that you want to adore and admire with discernment and care. What's up?

You cooking?

I'm done. I ain't got nothing on it. Prayers for all. Yeah, word, word. Prayers for all. See, but I keep talking about me in my 40s. I go to sleep thinking about just senseless death. I do. It ain't gotta be somebody shooting somebody. I go to sleep thinking about the guy that just went to the bodega to get a sandwich and the car just went and plummeted. Bow. And now that's the end. Like, wait, that's not fair. That's not fair. That's not right. On the news, I see mad destiny, like, for that guy. That's not right. Josh Reynolds. Josh Reynolds, right? The Denver wide receiver that just got shot in his head and his arm leaving the strip club like, this is sad and it's depressing. I'm sorry that so many of y'all feel like you. You. You need to bust your gun to feel safe. I don't think.

I don't even know if it'd be about safety now.

What is it?

Well, you'd rather Be.

It'd be about my cheese.

Well, they always say rather to be caught with it than caught. Oh, I'm talking about for those people. Yeah, for those people that flip is talking about where something might retroactively pop up for something you did back in the day. I get. I get that.

I said it'd be about my cheesemo. Now, like, niggas brag about having it on them niggas bragging, you know. You know, I don't play nigga. I let this thing go like it's a cool thing now.

I. I feel. Yeah, I feel like it's. It's just. It's deeper than any of the things we would ever know. Like, you feel me? I read a book, like, one of them books, like psychology shits, and it was basically on the urban community. And it was like, one of the quotes is how we flip. Suicidal thoughts is homicidal impulses. And it makes a lot of sense. When I look back in Yonkers and look at all the little bros and all that, that when one passed away, how everybody's all sad for the week, two weeks, everybody's crying and all of that. A lot of these young is in their homes suffering from a lack of love, appreciation and all of that. And they think when they die or they go to jail, that they gonna get that. That one week, two weeks of praise is real love. And they don't realize that it's not. A lot of these are really suicidal, and they're flipping it. Winter homicidal impostor.

That's sad.

Can't argue that.

I can see that.

I can't argue. I can see it too.

It's sad.

I can't argue that.

Like, you know, my problem is. This was my problem. I swear to God. I hate. God, I'm sorry that I hate coming in here on pod days to discuss like this. I swear I do. It really grinds my gears. This irks my soul to have to come in here and speak to some of this. But a few things, to Jwan's earlier point, let me be the one to tell y'all out there. You don't have to live your raps. You don't have to do that. I don't care what they told you in the 80s and 90s. It's art. You know how many lies I told in raps? Mad lies. You don't have to get on there and chronicle, like, chronological order. You don't have to name, like, rest in peace, Foolio somebody on my algorithm. A Foolio joint song Popped up and it was hard. I wasn't too familiar with foolio's music, but this song was hard. And the whole thing was him naming the. That died like the. That got all of the ops. Every one. It was three minutes of death. We got all of them. The Internet now is pulling up old Dirk songs that sound a certain way and a certain.

The niggas album cover had a scoreboard up there of us versus y'all and we winning. Like how many we murk versus how many y'all murder?

And that's what's going on.

That was true, though.

It don't. It. It. We don't know. Nobody knows. We not that close, thank God. We not that close to the situation to know if it's true or not. But just the.

It looks the way the optics.

It looks the way that song with the choir sing. Oh, my life. I'm alive, man. Yo, dog, who the do y'all think y'all are fooling with this stuff? All of this key to the city, yo, you know, my problem is. Let me talk and then you can go ahead. Like, some of us come from hoods where we know killers. We've spoken to some of them. Some of them got good hearts. So we. We understand. Some of us come from places where some killers we understand. So we do have an empathy that is not present in modern day society. And that's how they could tell that we from where we from. Because we kind of, in a sick, twisted way, get it. Get some of that and rationalize some of that. And I'm not saying that's okay, but that exists in some of us. We have to draw a line between that and just romanticizing bad killers, y'all. Whoever this applies to are not good at killing. Y'all are missing your target, hitting another target, going to rap about it, killing a kid, killing a mom, killing in the daytime, killing at a mall, killing in very crowded areas, killing over nothing.

And you niggas are killing over absolutely.

Nothing and then rapping about it.

Yeah, so that's my problem. Like, I want to. I want to separate the people that have that type of empathy that I'm speaking about. Because those people that I'm talking about, I never spoke to one of them and they was like, all right, Mouse, I'm about to run this bodega and just let everybody in there have it. Since Elon Musk purchased X my for you tab is nothing but those types of senseless murders. It's dudes running in check, cashing spots with AR15s and just wiping everybody out. Like, this shit is a mess out here. And thirdly, if there was anybody who we would totally understand you making a decision to change your life around and live differently and maybe turn your back to some of the things that was going on on Previously. It's Dirk. It's Dirk. What else needs to happen? They've killed people close to you. They've killed your family. They've run in your house while you and your queen were sleeping. If he were to say, hey, you know what, dog? I'm cool. I'm going to take my $60 million and my children and go to Colorado and rap from there, never to be seen again, I think everybody would say, hey, you know what?

I get that. I get that. That's never the fucking choice. That's never the route chosen. I don't get it. Again, he'll have his day in court. So I'm not. I'm not really getting into him. They'll have to prove that what they're saying about him is true. But for the niggas that they nabbed, they talking about they got somebody that was wearing a wire for 12 years.

No, he came home from 12. He had it for years, though.

All right? He came home from 12, had a wire on him and was wearing the wire for years. Got it. Got it. For the niggas that they nabbed, though, they got the shooters. They got the shooters already. Hey, it was 20 million cameras over there on Sunset at 3:00 that day. You boarded the plane with your name. We got the text, we got. We got you receiving the money. That's where the problem is. It's not that it was just a murder for hire. We have the money being paid. Unlike, unlike Dog, where they was talking about it was a murder for Hybe. We never got paid. So that made it fuzzy. These people got received money, whoever these people are, so now they gotta track it.

The crazy shit be you got the money on Zelle or Venmo or Cash App or some wild shit. Like, if that is the case, yeah.

It's just these are senseless crimes that don't appear to have much thought I going into it other than violent emotional reaction and response. And it's a shame to keep seeing it happen to the people that found a way to the people that hit the lotto. These opportunities we talking about don't just pop up. It is like hitting the lotto. I wish that we would cherish it more. I wish that we would value ourselves and each other just more. Than to keep doing that. That's all. That's all I'm doing.

I think that, you know, I'm in the middle, Joe. I'm realizing that podcasting, the job that we have to do, is filled with hypocrisy. And I say that to say, because when we talked about liking that same Dirk song you pushed, the fact that you didn't want to hear that. You wanted to hear the regular Dirk shit that he normally does, and on top of that, that everybody's not as fortunate and as smart as you to take an opportunity. I'm pretty sure that when I hear a story about how you sat in your truck and somebody tried to take your do whatever and the gun jammed, I'm pretty sure if you didn't have the maturity and the success you had or just being the person you had, being the person you are, if that nigga was outside playing around and you had the opportunity based off, in my opinion, the environment you come from, something could have happened to if he didn't go to jail because he tried to take your life. The guy that broke my jaw in the park, I looked for him for that shit bothered me every day. I looked for him for over 10 years.

Sitting in the park, laying there on the bench on YouTube, can't find his nigga because I got snuck and my jaw broke. And it was around the neighborhood until I interviewed Soul B and he was able to. I had to sit down across that. Across from this guy. And it's a simple. Broke my jaw, snuck me from behind. So I'm saying that we experienced some of these traumas and we are not as fortunate as you. You. And it is an excuse, but we're not as fortunate to think how you think to have like.

But you are. That's the problem.

I am now. I am now. Before I got here, but before I got. Before I got here, around Unc.

I thought you were still blessed.

No, but I thought different.

You were one of the lucky ones. The way I was one of the lucky ones. You're absolutely right. Somebody put a gun inside of my Hummer on Gifford and Burton and pulled the trigger point blank range, and it didn't go off. That's luck. Part of being good is being lucky. But that's luck. That didn't make me say. That's kind of. My point is we have to value ourselves in a way where I'm not now trading in my life to cancel yours. True. I don't think that's a fair exchange. I think God blessed me in that moment. So let me be wise enough to go and meet my potential and all of the things that I'm capable of versus getting with the 40 niggas that I was with at the time and figuring out how to go handle that in a different way.

Even if you were gonna handle it, it's still. Maybe it's me. I'm still not gonna handle it. When it's just gung ho.

How many experiences you had to go through for you to say to yourself, yo, let me make a change? This is what we're all forgetting. Like, some people need a certain amount, and unfortunately, it may end up death or jail. But when you win the streets, regardless if you got money or don't, that's what come with it. That's the only options.

You use the word.

Yeah, I wasn't in the streets.

That's not true either. Even when you're in the streets, you just not gonna say, yo, it. And I'ma just crash out the smart that's making money in the streets and that's doing things in the streets. Yeah, some of them is getting killed, but they not just getting killed on some. Yo, go kill that on Main street at 2:00.

Everybody in the street's not making money. Some are just, in a way, in the streets.

I didn't say that either. It's some on the. In the street game that's just not dumb.

We.

We trying to make it seem like, yo, the that live that life. That's just how they are. And that's not true.

There's a generational gap. Y'all were raised different. Chicago is different from New Jersey, from New York, from Yonkers, from Queens. Like, it is a different world.

None of the. None of the murders I'm talking about happened in Chicago.

No, they didn't. But the niggas that are committing them, allegedly.

I'm talking about that happened in Atlanta, where we all could have left the hookah spot peacefully.

I agree with this.

I've been in the parking lot. Yo, if you've been outside, you've been in a parking lot before with some niggas that.

I mean, you know, they was on bullshit.

Yeah, and you move accordingly in the parking lot. I'm talking about Atlanta and Florida. I don't care about where y'all come from. I understand that Chicago's a different place, which is why you never hear me talk about Chicago travel. I'm not there to know or speak to it. Once you get your rap money and invest that in vests, bullets ammo guns, the joints with the switch and bounties, dog, we're getting you for the bounty. You cannot just run around and put money on top of somebody's head because you got money. Sorry, that's not how this works. Okay?

Is there ever a time where be like, yo, you know better. Does that ever stand like.

That's what I'm saying.

When you in jail, that's when have that conversation. When you in jail. Yo, bro, you knew better. Don't have that conversation on the streets. I'm talking about within yourself when they are in jail. Did you have it after you got shot?

Yeah, I had it before and after.

After, you see you had it multiple times.

But when I got shot, it wasn't based on something that I was doing necessarily. Dumb. What I'm saying is this. When I was a kid, I knew better. When I'm an adult, I knew better.

I agree with this.

I'm not blaming it on nobody. Anything that goes on in my life today, whether it's in business, whether it's in personal, bro, I hold myself accountable. Accountable for every decision I ever made in my life, bro. We are a combination of our decisions.

That's a fact.

Right? So cool. I'm not going to blame this. I'm not going to blame that. I'm not going. When I was running around, I was still smarter than most of the niggas running around because I thought different than them. They was doing dumb shit. I ain't want to do it. I ain't do it.

And thank God. Coming up, the niggas that was doing dumb shit protected like me.

Not all the time, but even when they. I still would say, oh, that nigga on dummy time. We see. I'm going over there.

We see Dirt hold himself in.

They let old boy go to the park and work on his jump shot. You got a chance, young boy. You come from a good family, man. Go get your off while we out here. Like, I'm with Ish at some point. People that know better, that ain't true. We just ain't coming around you that's shooting 20amonth, y'all. Y'all.

No, it ain't that many saying that right now on my block right now. And Carl can tell y'all this. There's a bunch of young that have no reason to be out there. They're not even from over there. And every time I come outside, I keep asking, yo, why are they here? Like, what is their purpose?

Like, and what's the response?

And nobody has a response. I'VE been asking for the last month and a half. Yo, why they here? Like, what the are they doing? Like, what do you. What is. What is their purpose? And no. And you know what the common is? They just outside. They want to be outside. And that is it. It's never the person. It's always the entourage. A lot of the times that be the problem behind a lot of shit.

It takes a.

It takes a village to raise a child. Even me trying to be outside. Remember my mother coming into clubs looking for me right at a young age. Or web and nitty having the conversation aggressively. But, yo, you're not doing that. Little TJ going out. You got a good mother. You got a house. Go to school. Giving me money. You don't need to do that. Here, take the money. Go buy yourself some sneakers. And this is what. But sometimes you just watch it and you want. That's why I take accountability. Because I had niggas tell me that, and thank God I did. Thank God it was a group of niggas that. And I asked him this question as an adult, like, yo, what did y'all see? I asked Nitty when I sat down with him, yo, what y'all niggas saw that y'all didn't even give me a pack or say, go do a dummy mission. Because in my mind, I was more than capable of doing it. Cause I was doing it on my own. And he explained to me that, yo, a lot of times when we grow up, there's always those special ones that we go the extra mile and we cherish.

Like, nah, you go to school. I miss my opportunity. I miss this. So it is niggas out there that would do. So I had that experience. You know what I mean? I had that experience.

And y'all just today, y'all today, man. Y'all kids today. Oh, man, I do like my 40s. First of all, aging is a gift.

It is.

I want to remind the audience of that. Getting older is the blessing. One and two, the stunt today is different than whatever y'all are putting on Instagram. The stunt today is Nitty hitting me to say, happy Father's Day. Love you, og. Remember back in the day, we made it. Your kids, my kids just talking to Father, dad, family. Yo, what you doing now that we don't have to do none of that no more? That's the stunt. Y'all are confusing the stunt out there, y'all are. I play that, y'all. I pray that y'all get guidance from somewhere. Whoever this applies to whoever this applies to again, Dirk will have his day in court. And because I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt, I hope that they can't prove none of that stuff that they attempted to prove on him. That's the hope.

I feel it.

I agree.

All right.

I mean, in more hip hop court news.

No, it's a weekend. Man, I was in a good mood and a good vibe. Y'all coming here with this hoot nanny. Come on, man. Let me call on the power of Luther real quick. Yo, man, this life thing. This life thing is good.

Precious.

This life thing is good. It's beautiful. It's fragile, it's delicate. It's to be treated and handled with care. Care.

Damn, this is a long intro.

Yeah, he knew this might be my.

Favorite Luther song too. He knew the beat was fly. Yo, just let it run. Let it run. I ain't ready yet. Luther was getting some coffee or something. Some in the back. No. What you think? Luther never. No dude in the studio. Not right before doing this. George Mike Michael, you think some of these slaps come from gay sex in the back?

A slapping them and pulling out a gun on them and telling them to go record? Remember that producer that they said that they was doing that was forcing to record under distress?

So.

Yeah.

He'S in jail.

Yes. Based off Wham.

Yeah, come on. What wham meant? What did wham really mean? Them.

That meant wake me up before you go.

That mean they was butt ass recording that Lutherano. Dr. Man, listen to it.

I just don't want to stop.

Wait a minute now. Yeah, it's good vibes and good energy in here.

A million days in your own.

Luther was gay.

We still with Luther, but he ain't confirming he was gay. Like he died.

A lot of don't confirm they gay.

Luther was gay. Why you want to dance with your father?

I told you.

No, that's not gay.

Why you want to dance?

If Junior come in the house, your dad let's. You gonna look at him crazy.

Listen, that's not gay. No, I'm not. No, I'm not. And that's one of my favorite songs. That's not gay.

Call him right now and ask him if he's.

I'm not calling him right now.

I never.

Yo, you got trauma, son. You got trauma, and that's what I'm saying. And the podcast let you, you know, let it out. But you got trauma. And I feel for you, my nigga.

That's all good.

I feel you got a lot of.

His generation that got Trauma. Yeah. It ain't just him. It's them.

But I like that about you because you're expressive. You expressive, but you. I'm letting you know, if you trying to hide it, you need to be better than how to go seek. We got him. Y'all look J roll. But how does Pop feel when you express that? How you think Pops feel if he watches it and say, yo, whatever my son feel about me, I can. It comes out on camera or comes out on the mic.

How do you think he makes personally to him?

Okay, I didn't know that. That's the relationship.

Like, these are my grievances or issues.

Got it?

Like you feel me?

I got you. You. I got you.

And we gonna stop allowing him to come up here and get Jadakiss Trauma. You can't just take the gig and say something bad about. The legend is a legend. You are not. You gotta be. You gotta be a legend before you start talking about legends around here. That's the problem. These kids with voices.

I watch a video at you at homecoming. Blowing the whistle, dancing.

Oh, big outfit. Shout out to big Alpha, the Lord Biden citizens out there.

Goddamn it, indeed. Thank you.

That's you, indeed.

These days, I ain't tell.

When I got my car to go up the other street. Go up the street the other day, I felt like I had warrants. I got paranoid.

Yeah.

How the clip looked. That car hot.

I don't mean I felt illegal.

I felt like, oh, shit, let me make sure I'm good.

I like it hot. The ones that don't tell me stop.

I haven't had to think that way in mad long.

But that looked like a police maggot. That is a.

They gonna get up. See that pink hoodie on you drop slow that Luther son.

Yo good. Yo, that. No, I think I smoked the karaoke look with mine. Yeah.

I mean, and if he got the cigarette between these two fingers, he gonna look sassy.

I think I smoked these pants. They're not just style. But you wouldn't do these. But the Balencia pj. Joe, stop. Come on, man.

Shits look crazy.

How about this? At least say they look like Joe Pants.

Those are Joe Pants.

Those are definitely Joe.

Pantsiage made them for you.

You ain't got. That's what I said when I made them for you. I'm like, oh, they wilding now.

I don't know.

I like them shits.

Not me.

They for me. They for me. Style should be unique to everyone.

So, hey, what's that you got with.

Your Back called with my what?

Scoliosis.

Scoliosis having that car. Scoliosis is flashing. I know you getting that fly. You sliding right into that, you know, went straight back. Yeah, you get into that fly. I thought is like, look at this. I would want to rob you in there.

But getting in there, you had to learn how to get in there.

That's different.

I hear you. You just. You just got whatever you 5, 11, whatever you are. Hold up a minute. Let's crack on him. You like. You like the. That went and get lipo. And now they look. They appear to be a bad, but their brain and is still on toxic. Yeah, he still got short brain and personality and heart and soul. He developed into this.

All you got to do is accuse him of something that Napoleon. Napoleon come right out. Yeah, I took over the land, Napoleon.

I took over the land. Yo, yo, no, I'm not wrong. You wrong. Who the fuck you think you got. You're wrong. They got the game. They got the game.

Was like, yo, you tall as hell, my G. You feel good? No, I know I'm tall. I ain't tall as hell, anyway. But he like, yo, you don't look like that on the couch. I said, yeah, the couch is 18 inches high.

Stop dissing the couch. He stopped when it cut.

Diss anything around him, you know, he.

Wasn'T always told, though. He a size 8.

I'm not a size. I'm a size 10.

Size 9. They don't even. They don't even make that sneaker for that. We're 11 and up. That's a girl. Don't even make that sneaker. Yeah, those are girls.

And you listening to him?

You listening to him?

Stupid ass.

Yo, my feet growing, too, yo.

At this age, Dead ass, yo.

Benjamin Button ass.

Yeah, you good, bro.

Yo, my. I hate to break into you.

I'm dead ass.

I swear, yo. I ain't lying, yo, pause. Nothing on you is growing. There's nothing on you. Listen to me.

That's the old swollen. That's a swollen foot.

Yeah, you got water in your knees.

I was like, yo, should I.

When you sleep, sleep with your feet up like this? Elevate your toes. That's what it is.

This stupid.

This shit. Swollen foot. It's not growing.

Dead ass.

It's no.

All right, Growing. They're not getting swollen.

No, they're not swollen. My feet growing. My sneakers don't fit me.

No.

All right, never mind.

I know I should have bought a whole bunch.

And this is the problem with having children at an Old age, you start seeing them grow, you think you growing.

You trying to win.

My daughter is growing. Oh, wait, I'm growing. It's not Peter Pan green.

No, for real. My growing.

It's okay.

Okay, well, congrats.

Hating.

Like, what does he want us to do with that new information, Right? Follow this.

One day, though, son. I want you to decide to see me doing you. I want you to reverse it on that one day when he going a little flash over the sliding in. Just take your car and follow behind him and see what he does. Come back and tell us. Spy on this, son.

Most of what he does.

He got it now. He do some fly sometimes differently, son. Spy on this. He don't do everything the same.

That nigga's like, ain't nothing to spy on me.

I ain't doing nothing. I live a boring life, yo.

No, you don't.

I live a really.

I saw that. I saw those stories. You was having fun at that karaoke, huh?

Oh, I was home in bed by the time I posted that story.

I. You don't got to tell me that. I didn't even shot a. I don't got to tell me that.

See me post.

I don't sing. What's that song?

She's long gone.

Yeah, I was long going out of there.

I'm sad. You just did a good. Just look fly. It looked nice. The view you had.

It was nice. It was a good vine. It was a good vibe.

I thought Mel was going to be in there.

I was asked to go, but I couldn't.

Ooh.

I wanted to go, but I couldn't.

Who asked you to go?

Doreen.

Okay. Hey, Doreen.

Hey, Doreen. I'm going to go to the next time. Next. You gonna go with me? Come on, we can sing Fire and Desire.

That trick has gotten many a man at this pod, but not I.

Hey, that I squire.

That one little trick right there made many fail.

That's funny.

Not I. No, it's all right. I'll see you there.

All right, fine, fine, fine.

Oh, you wanted to sing. You wanted to sing.

She want the ride. She want the ride. That's what she do.

She do the shit for the ride.

Look, she don't care about going with you for real. She going to leave your side.

We have fun when we go out.

But you going to leave his side. Cuz, you mixy, you ill. You just want the ride, yo. So pull up. Pull him off the block.

No, I can.

I can.

That was funny. She don't really leave my side.

I Don't.

Oh, she don't.

She don't leave my side when we go out.

Cuz he's somebody. Oh, I got he's somebody. A like flipping E yo, y good. You never asked if we good. You walk to the door, you do.

Lapse, hour and a half, meet up.

Same spot, hour and a half. I'll meet you right here. Okay, same spot, right here.

Ready?

Break.

That's fine.

You only don't care if you know me anyways.

And then the one time she did leave my side at that Angie barbecue, I tore her head off for how she did it.

I went to the bathroom.

I know. It's a shame you don't know how to go to bathrooms.

No, I.

There's a way to go to the bathroom.

That's learned behavior.

It's like hood, but that come from hood for women. There's a way.

Yes. It comes from hood and women.

I seriously can't even remember. I feel like I had security take me.

No, you had some random.

You had a random.

Oh, it's this way.

Oh, take me.

Take me there.

Take me to there. I want. But you up for watching and not stopping the. You watch this happening. And something went down that bad for you was complicit. He watched it. You watched her go. You say, yo, come here, man. You. You take mine of your business.

I gave her the look, but she didn't recognize the look, so she went off. But when she came back and homeboy.

Went wherever, I gave her the thrashing.

She got it.

Very.

She got it. I hate that I have to do that.

It's okay. I learned my lesson that day.

That won't happen again.

Around me, it's just Mr. Plus One. You know that, right? And you gotta stop that plus one. You get that off. Like you as a man to be known as Mr. Plus One. Really comfortable with your sexuality and masculinity. You just comfortable. You a plus one. You walked up the stairs as a plus one. You went to the game as a plus one. You went to the.

I'm not mad at him going to the game as a plus one. The plus one is.

Okay, give me.

Give me some plus one times. Y'all just say anything up here on these mic.

Okay, cool. I can give it to you. The dinner. You went to a wallow and them niggas, you was a plus one.

I never went to Dillo wallow in my life.

Duh. Simba.

Why was I the plus one?

So Simba was a plus one. Oh, you invited him to dinner. Well, I'm asking you.

Cause you smarty pants.

The point I'm trying to say is that you owe Mr. Plus One and you don't have to.

Well, you told us about one time using plus one and it's sensitive, so I ain't joking on it, but you told us one time when you said use man plus one. You said that up here.

No, Mandy said that. I never said that.

He don't like that. You.

Mandy said that.

And you brought it to the damn man.

You came in the pod and you.

Going to snuff me over? Look, I'm not at all.

I got a smile on my face.

I'm not even remotely somebody smiling.

No, I can't.

It ain't going to hit hard. It ain't even going to.

Y'all just be making up.

I think it's fly. You get it off and it says that. Don't want me to be there. Plus ones. I'm not. I'm not ish. It's more from a jealous point of view, mister.

Yeah, that's funny.

That's hilarious. Listen, I'm company mandate. Consider this a company wide email. We not letting Mel and Ish walk to the board together anymore. Nor are we letting Mel and Mark Lamont Hill walk to the board together any. Anymore.

I am open mic.

She just spazzed on us. She did. She said I'm the only one that writes on the board.

That is right. The times that I have come in here and sat my ass down, guess what happened? The board stayed blank.

But let's keep that part turned out.

This not this not up fire.

Right?

This is not her only time doing this. She ratted on before.

I did not rat.

We walked in the called the meeting on the balcony.

You did rat.

I don't think that was ratting.

Not only did. Wait, wait, how was that ratting? Oh, shit. We waking it up. Not only did she rat and I called the meeting on the balcony about people's participation with the board. Then at the end of the meeting, I tried to be a civil, responsible dude. I was like, all right, does anyone here have anything that they would like to address the staff with?

I remember that.

And nobody said nothing. And I looked at Mel and I was like, mel. She's like, no, that was so smart. I'm good, y'all. I said this. She act like, yo, Mel.

Yeah, well, hold the up. I have addressed them before. When I was standing at the board and everybody was just talking amongst themselves.

No, she did that. She didn't do that before.

Hold My hand, yes. If you wasn't fine. If she was. Do you know how your life would.

Be if you was rescrucia.

Yo, if you didn't look the way you look and you pulled some of the shit that you be trying to pull?

Mel, girl, Mel, you sat there. I remember we all.

My sister in Christ.

Your parts.

No, for real.

Mel sat there. Like, she didn't bring it to the nigga's attention. Like, she was like. He just called a random meeting. He looked like the back. Yo, she was. Yo, hey, yo, she. She was, like, empty.

Yo. He was hot.

Do y'all.

Man, wait, wait. Let me just finish this. She was sympathizing with us because Ice me is. I like where this came from. He was looking at me. Ice was offended, and she just sat there.

Mel sat there and let me argue with people.

You know, Ice kind of argue.

I didn't like that.

Do y'all remember the time I was standing at the board and the three of you were just, like, chatting it up? Chatting up. I was like, I am not standing here for the good of my health. Can you guys help me with this?

I'm gonna keep it real. We thought you was having another one of your hissy fits. That's it.

So we just ignored you. I hate that it gets packaged like that.

We talking about something.

No.

Am I standing here and you guys.

It's not even because that.

A couple times she's ran off midfield.

Yo, why are you walking like that?

Come back, man. Come back. Oh, I'm supposed to be doing an ad.

That has not happened in a long time.

That is our time to sexualize you at the workplace, too.

You a different male.

No problem.

When you go to the.

You fast walks me.

It don't look the same. Up, Mark. Mark Lamont walk up. They're like, move, man. See what you're doing? Look at Mark now. Day one, invested in the board. Put your baggy jeans.

Actually, what I did was I brought him over to the board. I said, now. This is what happens when we come in today. Okay? So I. This is what we come in. What we do when we come inside, we come to the board with our topics.

And now today. Want to walk to the board? Would you?

No, he came to the board last. Yeah, bro.

I come to the board, you won't even be here.

You know, ignore you.

Of course he walked to the ball.

When Mar was here, he started to contribute.

Yes.

I love it.

He wanted to check this.

Came in with subjects, Bart workers.

It's cool. Mark took him to the game. Made him feel better about the workplace. Mark took him to the game.

My phobia, your co worker standing with me. You know what I'm saying?

Thunder, what you doing tonight? You free? Yo, you free tonight? What's wrong with Ben?

Let me take you court side.

Let me take you court side to the game.

Let's go on a D. Correct. You look good though.

Wait, no, no, hold up. No coughing. We crack.

They gonna catch us on tv.

Drove over there with gas prices at a. Look at me about to pretend like I know we a gas price. I don't know, but they gotta be high. That Nigga took the i95. Listen, man, me coming to the job is nothing against you. Yeah, I mean, I'm just here. I'm just here to do a gig.

I don't want you to feel intimidated by my.

I don't want you to feel no type of way about me. I knew her before we had great.

I knew Mel before when I was a professor at lu.

That'd be my question.

How did I get involved?

That be my question.

I'm not even.

She get to the pool, yo, how did she get here?

She not a man.

Don't have nothing to do with her. How the is she? All right, yo, it is time for my key fob. Not enough nothing. She ain't got the go to the door, but she get in some. I be like, how did Mel get in this?

She know the manager like ish.

I can be a plus one, you know.

You queen plus one?

Yeah.

No, you are queen plus one.

People like me, but you call for.

The plus one like they call Ishmael. You call invite yourself. Are you going to.

Don't let him spin the narrative.

I'm sorry.

Don't let him do it.

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I was hyped. I'm like, oh, they got one last chance a minute, 50 seconds left.

I started, dragged him down by the whole face mask.

I'm like, oh, you killed my vibe right now.

They killed me too. I started Sam Darn in fantasy because of that Jaden Daniels injury last week. I wasn't sure. Yeah. So I started Sam Darnold and I really would have liked him to cook up some magic on that last.

Yeah, at least give him a shot.

And the ref is standing right there during the face mask right there.

And you. A face mask is one of the easiest shits to see.

The whole helmet turned. Yeah, his whole body turned around.

Yo.

And dude was running away like, oh, I can't believe I got him by the face mat. Like.

All right, now's not the time to discuss it, but I have a good idea as to why some of these calls are being carry on.

Let's.

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That's. That's a fly line. Run your game smooth. Yeah, I like that. It's in the game like ea.

It's growing on me.

But yeah, run your game.

It's what?

It's growing on me. Pause.

Like your shoes.

My feet now my shoes ain't growing real quick.

49 years old said my foot is.

This feel like a 12am drop. I'm feeling it like the energy is chasing it. Yeah, of course I chase it.

Chasing the midnight drop. He like that. Midnight drop it. Don't it feel good when you outside moving around and this drop. Oh, that's just a weekend vibe. But you know how I feel about that. Don't chase it though. Yeah, don't chase it. It might happen. It might Happen.

Because don't it up, though, because you don't be Mr. Chaos today.

No, no, I'm in a good mood.

Yeah.

Let it, let it, let it flow. I'm in a great mood. I ain't got. Yeah.

I mean, it feel like a 12am drop to YouTube, sis.

Do you like the midnight drops?

I love the midnight drops.

Do you know when it drops?

Yeah, because people hit me that it dropped.

Dropped?

Yes. Just like all y'all. I get calls and texts when the drops early.

Well, he proved his. He. This got a whole. He proved it we don't know about. Y'all is ill. That's it. Legends.

All right. We have brand new music from Summer Walker.

Okay, I didn't hear this yet.

Heart of a woman. Like to hear it. Here you go. I love S. Walker. I do sound like Sonny Braxton. Es things I do answer I may never find But I always choose you want to give up on you but damn, I know I can't I put the blame on me for giving you chances to chance Can I try to be strong?

How much can I touch your V.

All this time and I'll feel I say lying cuz only sing and saving you is the heart of a woman.

Yeah.

All right. Y'all know I stand for Summer, so I'mma shut up and let y'all do the review. All right, what's the verdict?

I like it. That's fire.

Sounds good.

Older Phil.

I absolutely love Summer Walker. I stand. What Music. I love Summer Walker music. I stand for Summer Walker music.

Same.

I think that she's got two classics under her belt. That's me. I'm not telling y'all to agree. And I think that the third installment and final installment, I think this is finally over it. Over it. Still over it. Finally over it. I think this is going to be more the same. She's about to absolutely smoke this and fire at that. Larry. This whole album. Larry A Larry.

You made that famous.

Don't cop this. No, she made him famous. Hey, Larry, Skip this drop, my brother. She is about to kick your back in and fuck somebody better.

Larry might be back in the building.

Larry's not in the building. Stop it. This is that same shit you try to pull with Offset and Cardi. I'm done with you, Larry.

Where's Offset?

I don't know.

It's okay.

You know something?

Nope.

You got some tea?

Nope. I drink coffee.

I look forward to hearing the Summer Walker project. I was about to hit somebody to find out when it dropped. That's how Thirsty I am, but just good to. Good to feel like a fan again. Yeah. Give me some music. It's been a few years since the last album. This sounds fire. Very first singlish or first drop ish from this. But I can't wait to hear Gettin Her Fuck Larry back. That's it. That's what I got for Summer Walker.

Sounded good. Sounded good.

I didn't floss. I didn't do none of that crazy.

Did you pull out a lint. A lint brush while I'm on air?

Yo, I didn't mean okay. Now don't do that. Don't start the okay like. Cuz I know what that mean.

Insubordinate.

Okay.

Yeah.

Don't do that. Don't put that under my. Don't put that in my file. Put that in my buddy. Don't, please.

Right next to the floor.

How did this happen anyways? Where did all the fluff on you? Okay, man. You know, I think that I speak for everybody. We're. We're glad that you have, you know, such impeccable hygiene habits. But like why on camera?

I don't know. You've been checking me about that way before. I can't believe you ratted on me last time. Because you pulled me and I didn't.

Want to risk, you know, some flying out of your teeth and landing on me.

I understand, man.

Sorry.

Don't you.

But you.

You're trying to help get rid of me. So I see your bad. Because all my days off you just try to call out, yo, you got a lint brush? Yo, you flossing your teeth.

She did it. Yo, whatever y'all doing, leave that at the pet farm. Whatever y'all doing.

You watch that whole too that to.

SeaWorld or wherever the y'all was at Animal Kingdom.

Yo, y'all, what the.

Yeah, here we talking about Summer Walker, not your lack of hygiene. Which one y'all think Summer Walker. Let me wait is out. Do y'all have any thoughts on the new Summer Walker project and not flips hygiene.

Summer Walk, the song that I heard was nice. It reminds me. It's an old school feel. 90s feel like it said whoever said.

It and J1 said it sound like Brandy.

Yeah, me.

That was fire.

He gives it a little bit of a brandy deal.

Yeah, I'm jacking it.

I'm jacking that too.

Hard of a woman.

These young.

It's a heart of a woman, bro.

What was wrong with. With that?

Nothing.

That's good lingo.

All right.

Okay.

I got you with you.

Summer is Summer.

Summer, Summer.

Let's just be. Be careful with our Brandy references.

No, he love Brandy. You think that's bad?

I think that was a compliment.

Somebody awful for a compliment.

It is a compliment, I think to.

One of those people.

It gave me that.

It's a compliment to one of those people. To one of those people, like, I.

Think he's just saying slow down.

To one of them who might be the heir to the Whitney voice throne. Talking about how their relationship. I'm not talking about our fodder. Okay. Their relationship. So, yeah, let's cool it now just a little bit. Let's let summer be summer. Ms. Norwood, y'all should have a little more respect.

I wasn't talking about the vocals. I was talking about the production sound.

Yeah, say it though. Say it though. Ms. Norwood is not to be played.

With, so the nuances are needed.

Yo, you know what? We have had a lot of new hires. We had to let Mark know about how we feel about Jay Z up here. We need to make a list. I'mma make a list of the people that y'all need to just treat with a little. Have a little more reverence for when we Talk up here. Ms. Norwood is on that list for me. Let's just be careful is all. That's all I'm saying.

I think in another life, you might have married her.

Yo, well, if I could act right, like, if I. Yeah.

Cause I don't think she tolerating that.

Imagine him and Ray J as brother in laws. Holy Thanksgiving would be.

Oh, y'all would be out of here.

That is a content gold mine.

You would be out of here.

What?

Mona Scott would have been rich.

Yo, you know what's funny though? Like, I do have. I do have a theory and I'm with what y'all are saying. I also think the Brandy's and some of them, the Whitneys, some of them that are buttoned up be with the all the way. I can concur all the way.

That's it.

You'll just never know it because I.

Just carry myself myself classy.

Yeah, they just got class. But you think that Brandy or the likes of Brandy don't like a dick with some toxicity. I don't believe that. I don't believe that at all. Now that I'm in a business. I love Brandy. I love Brandy too much to even. To even put her through the Joe button experience. Like, I don't think that's right. That's funny. I don't think that's right. I'm with you. Sometimes you got to save people from yourself. Like sometimes you can look at somebody and know the damage that.

Yeah, that. It's a piranha over here. Get out my water, please.

Go ahead, girl and sing them. Sing them songs.

Don't overdo it.

Get out my voice. Yeah, cuz. And the reason you don't date them chicks that's all buttoned up like that, anything they say publicly they right. They could be dead ass wrong in the house. Like that whole Keke Palmer and her man shit. I mind my business, but I got some thoughts if Brandy say Joe Budden did some shit in the house. Nigga, I did some shit in the house. It ain't no fighting that. I love you, Randy. Anyway.

Anyway.

Anything else in music?

Not a ton.

Anybody from your backpacker boys came out.

Shane Noir dropped a great project, self produced Lotus Chapter out. Megan Thee Stallion dropped a deluxe which is a whole 13 new songs. So it's a new album. I don't understand that.

I'm never listening to Megan Thee Stallion. It was.

It sounded pretty good. I only listened to like two or three songs. It sounded pretty good. I just don't understand why you wouldn't put that out as a new album.

It's weird if it's that many songs. Yeah, yeah. And I'm saying that. But her last album did have some songs that I with. I play some.

You would probably like some of this.

I play some of them snake sounding songs. I just think she need to change up the. The, the tempo of some of the songs, that's all.

Yeah, tempo and the rhyme style is a little consistent, but I don't have a problem with that. I'm not a problem.

Well, meaning I'm not going to listen to her consistently enough for that to be a problem.

I get you.

Yeah, I get you. But shout out to her.

Yeah, shout out to her.

Who else? Who else? Y'all don't give a about music when it drop right like Friday come. Y'all don't even check the itunes store or nothing. Look at these.

We don't.

It was a pretty quiet week.

In their defense, we looked at parks. I saying here we wish he usually have it.

I'll speak for ice. The east side has dropped. I'm excited about that. Snoop presents to ep. Still east side or still eastie? West coast.

And speaking vice. I think Gucci dropped a record. Oh, he did okay with somebody.

Him and sexy.

There you go. Him and sexy Red. I'm sure that's fire. I'll wait for ice to play it for me before I hear it.

I'm gonna listen to everything tonight.

Not dying tonight. You crazy as hell. So you ain't gonna stop shaking.

No, no, no, no.

You on punishment.

No chilling. You want punishment?

He don't need to go outside no more now that he got the love from his father this week.

That's what it was.

I was.

I was outside trying to get outside.

Trying to fill that empty void.

Tell me, where have you been, Father? I love this game.

All right, musicians, have ass it. Have at it. I have absolutely nothing else in music.

Yeah, it's pretty quiet week.

All right, what else we got?

Do you guys want to talk about Menendez brothers possibly getting parole? Okay, well, the district attorney in California has basically said that he is going to recommend to the judge who is going to resentence him. Yeah, he. Well, he's recommending recentencing you on top of this, Menendez.

You like Dem card? No, I mean, I think it's the beat with this.

I. Well, I mean, like, it's hard not to because it's all over our televisions. I mean, first we had the Ryan Murphy, you know, series, and then we have their voices talking about their perspective of everything. They've been in jail for, like, over 30 years.

34 years. And they did a 2020 on these dudes recently. I watched that as well.

And there's HBO one. It's just everywhere.

And then in light. Exactly. In light of all the new evidence from the former member of Menudo talking about the sexual assault that he experienced at the hands of their father. Now the district District attorney is basically saying, I'm going to recommend that they get parole eligibility. Eligibility immediately. That's huge. Because they were, like, facing life without parole forever.

And he also was down a couple of points. He's up for reelection, Right?

One of the.

One of the.

Yeah, the district attorney.

Yes.

Yeah. Gascon.

Yeah, he was down like, 30.

How do we feel about that?

I think they should get free.

I think that they should be eligible for parole because they're not a danger to society. Like, and I think that that's one of the. The considerations when it comes to being eligible for parole. They're not a danger to society. And with the circumstances around the fact that they may have been telling the truth about being sexually abused and that not having been taken into account during their trial. Trial. Yeah.

I feel.

Yo, don't start cracking your naked.

I think if that second. If the second doctor came out was valid and the. That was left out of the trial is true. Then it would have been probably a manslaughter charge. They still killed people at the end of the day, brutally. And I think that their time would have been.

So I feel sexual abusers should be tortured to some degree. So if their father, who's supposed to be their hero bro. Sexually abused him.

Damn. Come on. We skipped this guy's dad trauma.

No, this ain't.

Can we skip it? Come on. My dad should be my hero all the time. What the. And respect the 1v1 man. Let them clear out. You see is cracking his neck while talking.

I think it's.

You think what's them getting early Release.

It's been 34 years.

You don't give a.

Would it been you. It's that have gone to jail for less did life. And if we are going to allow somebody's trauma to justify them committing criminal acts, then free the whole ghetto.

I'm not mad.

Oh, great. And free to ghetto.

You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm not a fan of that. I think it's bullshit. I think that the media attention and the spotlight that's been put upon the case has now allowed them, you know, the benefit of getting up sympathy from the. From the masses. But the sympathy don't give us masses when we create when we do violent crime.

But you. But you don't identify with trauma anyway.

Who don't identify with trauma.

Let me not say that. From conversations, you don't seem like you really take the trauma serious. That's not true.

If you want to be in therapy. That he doesn't really.

My apologies. I'm. I'm saying that speaking to you and coming from you, I would expect the answer like that because you're just a macho man.

Like that's not.

That's how. Just how I feel. I'm just saying I feel like watching. You know, if they father did that. I do understand what you're saying. But if they father did that to them, a lot of back in those days, they didn't feel like men suffered from those things. Like sexual assault. It wasn't really highlighted when it came to men. You know, it was shunned. It was only women experienced those things.

So like, I feel like it's still taboo.

Yeah, it's taboo. So I feel like, you know these. A lot of times if a girl is kidnapping, she kills her killer. Not kill. Kills her kidnapper. You know, she does time. But a woman.

Sex trafficked.

Yeah, sex trafficked. She gets out at a decent.

Good point. Great point.

You know, time. Great point, but I understand what you saying, because I felt the same way until I saw the story and then I. And I watched the documentary. I'm like, okay, you empathize with them a little more. Yeah, I empathize with them a little more. Yeah.

So do you feel they shouldn't be released because of the killing. Killing part or because of the way they did it?

I think that their killing was graphic. I think that their killing was premeditated. And I think that, again, not saying that those guys didn't have. If those things were accurate and that that stuff really took place, they definitely had a right to feel, you know, contempt and disdain for their family. I just think that it sets a precedent. Like, what about all the people that did similar shit that just didn't have their case televised? They still locked up. So I think it's unfair to let go some and not let go all.

I think it's unfair that we are talking about the resentencing, that we talking about the television shows as it pertains to the resentencing and not some of the new evidence that they found. I don't believe that a television show alone is going to get people. People granted new trials.

Stephen Avery.

But if there's new evidence and he ain't getting. I don't know why he thought Trump was getting him out of jail.

We just had a case. We just had a case less than a month ago where somebody was executed. The district attorney. The district attorney begged for him to not be executed. The quote, unquote, the prosecutor, the victim's family, that they thought was a victim, victim begged for him not to be prosecuted under the guise of new evidence that exonerated the gentleman, he still got executed. You understand what I'm saying?

I do, but I don't think that you should hold true just because he didn't get the right proper thing that.

I mean, I shouldn't get proper.

But he's saying it unfair. He's saying that it's unfair, just unfair. Just. I understand what is saying, but to.

That point, how you saying, like basically saying the. The TV and everything is given. We just had this conversation a few pods back. They did that with Diddy did using the TV and shit to make him look a pain away. So regardless how it go, it can be in your favor or not in your favor.

I'm not disagreeing. I'm just saying that y'all asking me my opinion on the case. I'm just saying I think that, you know, it's Drug sellers that got life, that didn't do a violent crime, they got life for selling drugs. I just think you're not able.

Oh, you're not able to look at this isolated.

Yeah, I'm with you on that part, by the way. What, like drug dealers should not probably serve life.

That got life. That's literally doing life right now.

I don't think someone else shouldn't get fair justice because somebody else.

That's a good.

But because you think drug dealers shouldn't get, like, it's people that think what drug dealers do is bad just because you don't think it's as bad as killing.

That's their opinion. Not knocking their opinion.

So new evidence. You saying that new evidence was found and that's what we should be focusing on?

Well, I mean, the fact of the.

Matter is the Menudo boy like dog.

And they found an old letter from the kids to family members.

Yeah, I let it. Cousin.

I want him to get out. I do want him to get out.

Yeah.

34 years is 34 years. And your parents doing the abuse, it's like, I can't speak to what that. What that would do to somebody.

And not only that, when. When we talk about prison, you know, they talk about the. The whole, you know, time. Well, not. Shut up.

You did do. Until you went to jail. You went to prison for some.

I did not go to prison. I did not. I didn't go to prison. I was in jail. There's a big difference between the two. Okay, but when they talk about prison, they talk a lot about rehabilitation. And a lot of times that's just really. But these guys have been exemplary prisoners. They have got. They've gotten, like, college degrees and they run prison programs and they do all this stuff.

Why did that sound so anti. Anti black?

What?

I don't feel like you should be able to say that. Like what? Like that. All the rehabilitation talk is a lot of times, like, do we have facts to support that?

Well, yeah, it depends.

On what.

What angle in this country.

Yeah, Depending on what angle she comes from.

Go ahead.

No, I'm talking from the angle that.

I don't think the rehabilitation programs work in prison.

Are you serious or you joke?

No, I'm not even talking about. I'm not even talking about rehabilitation programs. I'm talking about being in prison and it being a rehabilitative experience. That's bullshit. That's what I'm saying.

I would say for some. For some. No, there's studies that show.

That's not.

Corey, stop.

That's Totally not. Bullshit.

Corey, stop.

What side are you standing on that prison does rehabilitate or can. Can.

I'm not saying does.

Okay, so do you want to talk about, like.

So I just don't think it's fair to state factually that prison can't rehab.

That's true.

I don't think that that's a fair assessment.

I agree with that, too. Okay.

And prison can make you worse.

It can as well.

So that's why I don't.

Case by case basis.

So I don't want to apply it as a blanket statement.

It jumps out at me when it is a blanket statement because prison rehabbed my dad.

Indeed. That makes sense.

So I don't want to issue it as a blanket statement. I want to issue that as a generalized statement. So let me just be clear on that.

That's better.

So when it comes to the Menendez brothers, they're not a danger to society. They. Yes, they did a heinous crime, but it was directed to the people that, you know, they've given examples of the fact that they, like, abused them. And so, I don't know. I'm just on the side of them getting parole. And also, I don't know why it's now, but we've read and seen lots of documentaries about them over the course of, like, the last 20, 30 years. This is not the first time that they've produced documentaries based on the Menendez brothers. It's just now new evidence has come to light in conjunction with a lot of media attention.

This had the best acting, this had the best budget, this had the best production.

Yeah. But I also think that the fact that the main factor that, you know, what you guys were saying about men, you know, and male children. Exactly. The taboo of male children being abused. It's a different era in which we're living. It's different conversations. We have a different mindset when it comes to that. Whereas maybe 20 years ago, it was still very much something that just didn't want to be, you know, people just didn't want to talk about.

Yeah. And, you know, now people with power and money and power, you know, they're trying to highlight a lot of times that people with money and power do whatever they want and get away with it. So you have to be fair all around the board. That's just my stance on it. You know what I'm saying? If they. The parents were rich and they were being sexually abused by their father, they felt like they had nowhere to go. They didn't, you know, it's just we hear about these stories and, you know, free them.

Got you.

Free the bros. Well, not our bros.

But free the Menendez bros.

Jesus.

Let's try this again.

You brought it up.

It is.

No, I didn't. No, I didn't bring it up.

She brought it up.

Say free the gang and that's it. Deep diving. It's over.

It's a Friday.

It is the weekend. Some people are traveling, some are doing. That's lit right now. Here we go. With all this depressing out of here.

I want to say something too.

Ooh.

I want to thank. Thank you for. You just woke me up real quick. And I want to. It's about something with women and dating. I have something that I want to say.

Joe, I'd love to hear about that.

Whenever. Whenever. The hook, you know, this is a long. So this is time he was getting fucked.

20 minutes.

This is time he was fucking, right? Let me fuck before the verse. Come on. I can catch a quickie and five off.

Count me in.

That's what he was doing.

Them doing sick. Yo Quincy, where you at? I want to talk to that Yo.

Joe interview that Quincy light your ass.

No, I don't want to smoke with him. He's a legend.

He trying to quit your shoot at Quincy. Quincy will light you up.

No, I lost my glasses. We got.

Got to be fast. Got to be quicker than that. Sh.

Hurt my heart.

Got to be fast, young blood.

But I don't buy them shits. That's why I'm buying. Cause I leave them shit somewhere. Hats and glasses.

I got a limit on glasses too.

They don't.

They don't stand a chance with me. Yo, I bought a fucking cashmere dope ass cashmere beanie. I wore that shit about four times. I was tight.

I got two pair of glasses when I got these. But they was Ray Bans. And then I felt bad.

Ray Bans is cool.

I like Ray bands. We had a Ray Ban, so I just did.

Why you getting some fly like you bad.

Let's get them some.

Nat is they wasn't a bad be Ray Bans.

Ray Bans are classy.

What's your classes?

These?

Yes, those are Lou.

These are Louie.

Oh, don't buy me. Buy me Ray. If you going to buy Lou.

Yeah, same thing with the car.

I love.

If you proud of the baby. Got to have proud of when we.

Bump into a topic by mistake.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Is that the rule on gift giving?

No, no, no, no.

It depend that rule.

That's not true.

Look, now he said he going to try defendant.

Nah, I'm just saying that depends. I'm not. I'm not going if I'm buying some at the same time.

That's the problem.

If you buying some at the same time, like, I'm not. Me and my man go out to eat. I'm not gonna get my man pizza, and I got a tomahawk.

But you're not shopping together. That's the difference.

I'm not gonna bring you parks back if I. Or if I'm like, yo, I'm going to get some food. You want something? You're like, yeah, give me.

Give.

Bring me something.

But he was just bringing you a gift.

But he just told them.

Yeah, he should have let me know.

Black people have. We got. We got.

We spend your money.

It's human decency.

I would say thank you for the sunglasses.

I would say the same thing.

I would say the same thing.

But not wear it right.

But don't on me when you do it like. Yeah, when you. When I bought you these Ray Bans, I bought these, Louis.

Well, that's what. Yeah, okay.

That's what I'm saying.

That's what he did.

No, he didn't buy sunglasses at all.

No, he said, yo, I was going to get.

I was going to get you some.

Something when I got these. And I said, oh, word, what's those?

They were in the same section.

No, of course not.

The Ray Ban store was. I passed it to get to the Louis store.

Gotcha. Because I know you went straight to Louis. You ain't go to those little shits in the center of the mall now. You don't go to the kiosk. I didn't go there exactly for a pineapple.

And I dubbed the dude at the kiosk, too. And I didn't feel bad about it. But maybe for a second, when I was running in one of the stores, he come, jojo, check out my album. Because I ain't got this right here. Jojo, look at this. I was like, yeah, recently been on my way out the other day, on my way out. He was right there when I came up. Yo, you know, yo, check it out. Check it out.

No, they got you on tape doing this.

I'm not coming to check nothing out. You know, my checking out days over with. I'm sorry.

First the fat boys break up.

I wish you well and good luck, but I'm not coming to you.

You wish me well. Spend 27 over here.

No, $27.

Some of that at the kiosk. That the be. I buy the socks. I buy the socks a lot.

I'm getting you some Ray bands that I am. Now that I heard your response, I gotta. All right, so let's get to it. Is hip hop media just not worthy anymore?

Worthy of.

Of getting to have interviews with our favorite artists. Are the days of Ed Loving, Dr. Dre, Fab 5 Freddy. Are the days. Just audio. But Donnie Simpson. Is it over? This is from a Punch tweet where Punch said I gotta find it. But he said said basically we're not sitting with y'all.

Like yeah, I would. I would think that this is coming.

Off the heat of Kendrick doing the Harper Bazaar. Yes. Interview and him catching some flack for it being Harper Bazaar and I guess not a black. Yeah.

Ellen and Punch said that we done with y'all.

Basically. Punch tweet says, I respect hip hop journalism and feel it's needed in its truest form. Form. It helps keep the culture alive. But it's only a few real ones left. Most of you guys are trash. Just my opinion. That's why artists don't want to talk to you.

I feel that's what he said would.

Have been interesting if he said who he feels the real ones are. That's left.

He wouldn't do it like on Twitter.

You're not gonna do that but negate other people that you might have.

He went through it on Twitter though. Gave certain people they praises. Like.

That's what I mean. Like without saying who he thinks is. He could just say who he thought was good. Holds in a high regard.

And the people that you don't.

There's so many. There'd be so many.

Mel just confusing rap rules and she's rat so much that she don't even know what is, what's snitching and what's not. Yeah, that's. Sometimes you can rap and you got.

Relationships with some of the that you.

Might think are trash. Told her sometimes you can rat by elimination.

J1 what did he say? Who did he highlight?

He didn't highlight one perfect person specifically, but he did respond to one person and say this is not in regard to Eric.

Eric Diepp on Twitter. Said just talked about punches tweet in therapy because it made me that upset. I think we need to start using this app for more positive conversations about rap journalism, like talking about our favorite pieces from this year or songs that we liked. It is so negative on here. Punch retweeted that and said. A couple of people sent me this post earlier and I thought about it. My comments made you so upset that you spoke with your therapist about imagine what artists must go through when things are written about them.

He cleared the out of him.

That's why my original post asked, is it okay to criticize the critics, End quote.

Oh, yeah.

I with him for that. What I with him.

What?

Talk to your therapist about. Yo, some Twitter is.

That's some. If my post made you talk to a therapist, imagine what the artists are talking about in their therapy sessions. But when y'all say negative about them or when y'all critique them, I think that.

This is a conversation usually had, like amongst artists when they say, like when they do their vlogs or whatever, like all the critics or the blogs, they saying this and that and then blogs that say, man, shut up, be an artist. But then you see. Now you see the higher ups in the labels, the punches, the other, the other higher ups engaging. Now it's like y'all being harsh of us, but it's like, don't hold up the mirror if you can't look at the mirror yourself. So I feel totally how punch feel.

And I think you're right. I think that nowadays anybody with a microphone in front of them thinks that they're a journalist. And that may not necessarily be true. Like journalists.

99% of the time, journalists go to school, dog.

They learn techniques on how to interview, they learn techniques on how to write. They learn techniques on how to do certain. From people that are. Some people just got it.

And they're also just creatives, by the way. No real journalists are creatives. And if I'm sitting down with Drake, I'm going to think of an angle to talk about things that he's not.

Going to make it interesting.

Exactly.

We don't have to restrict this to journalists because he said Hip hop media, which is podcast also. That's just. The journalists deal in facts. I don't.

But they don't necessarily either. They'll ask questions for engagement, you know what I'm saying? Like, shit that they may not even know to be factual to know to be true. They'll take, like park said, a certain angle to invoke shit out of the guests or the artist. Now it's. Nowadays everybody is just spewing gossip, you know, I'm saying, or trying to be salacious or because it's the Internet generation trying to get clicks. So it takes away from that necessarily the integrity of journalism and media in itself.

A lot of it comes off disingenuine. Like, we'll see oftentimes certain pods or radio hosts or journalists say, oh, this artist ain't do here. But you go through their timeline, they kick the artist back in for weeks, months. They on them. So I feel like it's really just a matter of being mad. They're not getting certain interviews they feel they should get or are entitled to. And it's like, why do you feel you're entitled to this? Why are you more deserving than this person is?

I think the media space is just because is demonetized that they just doing whatever they got to do to get clicks. And that don't necessarily be in the best interest of the artist.

That's a fact.

So I agree with him a thousand percent. A million percent.

I think it's a crock of shit, what Punch? That I think there's truth in it, but the truth is buried under the crock of shit. And I've had this talk with Punch before, so I mean. I mean, I don't really feel the need to have it publicly. Well, let me see. Let me go to what he said.

What was some of the criticism that Kendrick received doing the Harper's Bazaar article?

The criticism was, you keep talking this pro blackity, blackity, blackity, black shit and how Drake is a culture vulture, and yet anytime you get a chance to represent culture, it's normally through a white outlet.

Didn't they try to criticize you too?

Well, they've done that forever, but for.

What they said, you praise Kendrick for his interview and doing it, but you kick Drake back in for going on the other side. So, like, they tried that with you also?

Oh, I saw them say that I kicked Drake's back in for doing the interview with Yachty.

Oh, yeah, and they like, they came for hov too.

Yo, y'all, y'all idiots can't never speak for me. Y'all, y'all try your best because of that little Adsense check y'all get on the 21st, but y'all can't speak for me. My brain is way too warped and I have way too many multiple personalities for any of y'all out there to just assume this is what Joe Budden was thinking. I absolutely love Drake sitting with Yachty during an interview. My disdain came from Yachty being allowed to go to the studio after that.

He did say that.

I said it then. I'll say it now. I love seeing peer to peer communication. Yeah. I don't need some of those peers in the studio while some of them are cooking up. I don't need that as Far as Kendrick goes, anything I say here, they're going to say I'm chasing an interview because I bigged Kendrick up for so long during the beef, I could give two fucks if Kendrick don't sit with me. And that's why I have a problem with what Punch is saying. When you say hip hop media, there are way too many options to choose from for you to lump all of those people under one umbrella of, hey, y'all talk bad about the artist and the artists feel the way so they don't want to talk to you. That is a crock of shit. You can't tell me that. Now. Many of us in hip hop media choose to speak about you rather than to you because the gig is the gig. But where I'm. Where I. Where I come from, the hip hop that I know, even those things led to more anticipation for an amazing interview. Right. Like when Chance came up here and did the part, I was kicking chances back in for months about that fake independent shit about the three hats about so many things.

And he was listening and he said, you know what? I'm gonna face you and I'm gonna. We're gonna have the discussion. And we did. And it was important at the time. Who else? Big Sean. When I sat with him months before that, I was kicking his back. And some. I've had a lot of interviews where I was kicking somebody back and they came right to the smoke rather than say, hey, this person's been talking about me and my feelings are hurt, so I don't want to go. I don't even like his point to homeboy that had to go to therapy. Homeboy that had to go to therapy is a dude sitting at home somewhere who knows what he works and where he works and what his home life is like. He is not performing in front of millions and millions and millions and millions, millions of people. He's not required to have the same tough skin that some of our entertainers are required to have.

But is that an unfair requirement to punch his point? Is that an unfair requirement that these are still human beings? 1. And just because my career puts me in front of a million people, that doesn't mean that I can be disrespected or I should be disrespected and just have to tolerate that.

But see, and that's where we conflate points. Yes, I agree with that. I also don't think everybody in hip hop media kicked one person's back in. There are too many people in hip hop media. Find the person that is true and aligns with whatever you trying to do and talk to that person, then I just think it gets real Mercury when artists today won't sit with anybody.

I agree with that. And I said that about Harper's Bazaar. I said I thought it would have been a negative if they didn't let Sza interview him. I think that. That we basically beat the critique by allowing Sza to sit with Kendrick as opposed to some white media person or some white interviewer that fucking grew up in Connecticut. No disrespect to Connecticut.

And it's possible he wouldn't have done the interview if it was the one.

I didn't knock that. But let's say this. Why couldn't we have Scissor interview him for a black media publication?

Is it too much to assume that whatever mediacation artists does align with isn't getting the numbers or it won't get the response and that's why they don't do it?

I mean, again, that's one of the critiques.

But that's. But that's a critique. But that's part of. I want to focus on what you're saying because that's part of my critique. Right? J1 is right when you're talking about appealing to the masses and you talking about stars and a certain level audience that includes white people.

True thousand percent.

Like, if you talking only blacks, then we talking about playing with a quarter of the monopoly board. So I'm not mad at that. But the same way that you go and speak to them, I think it should be equally as important to find the person in hip hop. Hip hop specific, not just black hip hop media that you could sit with. I think if Kendrick never sits with anybody, we are well within our right to kick his fucking back in. I also don't see a world where Kendrick won't sit with a big boy or sit with a sway or sit with. I don't. I don't see he would. They have to show me that he won't do that for me to believe that. See, Drake, I know that about. Because of how he's going about interviews since that Elliot Wilson interview. How that interview went. How the interviews. Like, I know that about him now. Like, even recently, not recently, but a few years ago, he tried to do some shit where all the media people come up here, we'll do the interviews. I edit it up, slice it up. No, nigga, no, no, no.

This ain't going like that. I don't want to talk to nobody. That. That ain't an Interview, Sure. If you just gonna dictate the questions, the answers, the footage and everything, then that don't count for. I think Punch is right that a lot of hip hop media is trash. And I think homeboy is right. There's a lot that's great about hip hop media that's not highlighted by the people that we need it highlighted by. Because y'all represent very sensitive artists and y'all have to deal with very sensitive artists. I don't think that part is highlighted enough too. Like, I'm sure that Punch and some other executives have stories upon stories upon stories about how they've had to walk an artist off the ledge because of something that I said or something that act said or something that somebody in hip hop media said. And when you on that side of it, why wouldn't you protect your artists by saying, no, we're not talking to nobody and we don't need to?

True.

But I wanna. I wanna point that they don't need to, but I mean, does it come with a certain option? You fucking right it does.

Two things. Two. I'm agreeing with you two things. I think that we get caught up in judging people as opposed to judging their art. And I think that if you judge somebody's art from an objective standpoint, you could say, yo, I don't like that album. I don't like that person necessarily as an artist. I think what we get caught up is we start getting into personal shit about these people that we don't know.

But that also goes both ways. A lot of times artists, and I can speak as being a part of projects that someone reviewed. Sometimes you take it personally and don't like that outlet when they're critiquing the music. And a lot of fans, when they have critiques of what we say about Drake or Kendrick or whoever, are like, oh, you don't keep that same energy for Drake or whatever. It's like we're talking about the music.

See, and sometimes if we're talking about the music, then I think that person is just need to get over it. Because, dog, I might have liked your last project. I might not like this project. Says nothing about you personally.

Stay right there. Because that's an important distinction to make. Oftentimes you be talking about somebody music and that person be listening and hear you, and now they take offense to what you're saying.

I think that's on them.

Yeah, but.

Yeah, yeah, but I think that's on them.

No, let.

The last two times I've hit Scissor or Not I've hit Scissor, but that I've had communication with Scissor. It don't even have to be about nothing. But she remind me that I seen that nigga Ice and whoever up there talking shit about my project and it's up for like life with them. We could be talking about Easter, but she makes sure to say, hey, I remember that. I never said nothing personally about True.

But a lot of times like an artist will look at their art as an extension of themselves. That's possibly true, but it's definitely true.

Listen, what I'm saying is I think that's on them. Me personally. If you start attacking a person, you start attacking their character, you start attacking stuff about them personally. We have this thing that, yo, the gig is the gig and you signed up for that and somebody might not have signed up for that. That is something that is almost always said when you start attacking somebody, it's like, yo, my N A, you a multi millionaire. Why the fuck do you care what I say? That's people's perspective. I used to say that when he was a troll. Yo dog, you winning, you up. Why the fuck you care what I say? That's not necessarily. People got feelings, my nigga, when you get, you become a millionaire. I don't mean that you, your feelings go away.

True.

You get what I'm saying? So I think that it's on an artist if we are objectively, objectively critiquing their music or their project or their acting or that movie. Because you could not like Denzel in one movie. And you can love Denzel in another movie. And don't say that you are personally attacking Denzel Washington.

Well, sometimes they do add personal attacks to it. And that's. I think the problem is saying that the music isn't good. But. But then trying to divert or get into what's currently going on with them is going. Is attacking their personal life. Like, yo, he would do some joke shit like that. I can see why people be mad. Yo, I don't know what's going on. You need to go back there to that nigga or go back and do that. That's a personal experience.

But that's also a privilege I have because I don't solicit interviews.

True, true.

I don't look actively look for them, ask for them. I turn most of them away. That's true. I live and die on that and Right. I think the artists and punch have a right to say all hip hop media is trash and we're not doing Any of it. Okay. Then you go be black media. Then you become. Because these people are already powerhouses amongst themselves. Kendrick could sit with Punch and we watching it for sure.

Or go find a young black journalist that just graduated from school.

Or yeah, somebody unearth somebody. But. But this whole stance of all hip hop media is trash. So yeah, artists are well within their right to fucking not talk to anybody. Yeah. But then deal with what comes with that. Deal what comes with that.

There's a lot of amazing journalists.

You know from. Based off everything you're saying, especially about the critique and as aspect. I think media USA tend to forget how artists view their art. And Lil Teca just said that's said this in an interview. You could work on a project for a year, two years, sometimes five years for one day for that to be when it released and everybody just on it like. So artists really hold a personal. A personal. What would it be?

Love?

Attachment.

Attachment to their work. So when it's not received how they would hope for people to receive it.

That's what comes with the kingdom.

Yeah.

I think that's the gig.

No, and. But that's where it becomes murky.

No, that's artist having the gig up.

I think that's the.

Once. Once you release the art, it's not yours.

Sure.

It's yours while you're doing it. Once we get it, it's ours. Open for interpretation. It ain't for you to have this attachment to. To. Whereas you about to hate people that have a negative. Something negative to say about it. That's a crock of.

But that's artists. That's how artists act. So it's really you going. You either gonna deal with it or you're not. As an artist and as media sensitive.

Thugs, you all need hugs. That's what I say. Which earlier conversation.

The Dirk.

I don't remember. Sorry.

Just the whole situation like it's so.

Interpretation.

Yeah.

Shout out to Punch. But it's kind of confusing.

Oh, the dark shit.

Yes.

Got it.

It's kind of confusing to me because Kendrick has had a hell of a year. So I'm kind of confused on the stance right now. You know, I mean it's not like he had like niggas was dissing him and then. And everybody's been praising him and praising what he's done. So.

But he might not have forgot the.

Negative shit from two years ago.

Sometimes that happened because everybody didn't. Well some people did, but everybody wasn't big enough to Mr. Morale.

True.

You know what I'm Saying, yeah, true. So a lot of people had some negative reactions to that. But I just think that if somebody not attacking you personally as an artist, then that's the gig. I don't have to like your last project, you know what I'm saying? And again, I could have bigged you up for three projects in a row. This one ain't hit like them, right? That's art.

Niggas don't look at it, but we respond to that too. Like a nigga can say a whole bunch of positive shit about us. We not gonna respond. We gonna charge it to the game. And as soon as they say the negative shit, we gonna jump in and wanna respond to them. That's just how society's also human nature. Yeah.

Niggas like the attack negativity. Like, you feel me? Then I think that's just what it is. It's easier to attack and go at the negativity versus embracing the love because it sometimes feel like the negativity is the true feeling versus when a person be like, oh, you did good. And we see it even in the community. On Twitter, they'll compliment people hammering there. But the negativity is usually what gets attacked.

It's attention.

I know I attack it, but that's because it's easier to spot.

But you another that need to put his phone down. Some terms that. Yeah, you are going crazy over there. And I'll say this, I'll say this in closing. I think that Punch speaks from a position of privilege. I think that Punch. I think that Punch. A few reasons. I'll tell you why I think Punch is fortunate enough and not just Punch tde. They are fortunate enough and lucky and blessed enough to house two powerhouses that only ascend up. By the time they fall off, music will be in a whole nother place. Kendrick and SZA are going up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up. One very. Not too many other people can claim two powerhouses like that under one umbrella. One and two for the people that ain't megastars under that umbrella. I just think that umbrella don't really give a fuck about press like everybody else. So Punch is able to say, J Rock, I can't imagine kids about press like that. Same with Absol. Same with School. Boy, that crew was just on some family. If the press come, it come. But if it don't, this is how we moving them to the side.

That ain't the case for everybody else. That ain't the case for everybody else. Y'all that have the king or queen on the chessboard. Lord, if y'all not moving a certain way, media and press take that out on the rest of your acts. And the rest of your acts normally want to press and need to press and can use the press. So there's a dance, there's a waltz that has to happen. That TDE is the exception to that rule. So he get to talk like that. The rest of these niggas can't talk to press and about press like that. Carney do it because she don't have no music coming out like the people that do it. I could tell you why they doing it. But to the people that are actively putting music out and trying to grow their brand and their business, it's not wise to do that. It's not wise to come out and say, yo, all the hip hop media, fuck y'all. Suck my dick. That ain't smart. True. The rest of y'all get out there and think that y'all could keep trying this shit that punch and TDE is doing and see how it works.

See how it works.

Why you not addressing hip hop media as far as being more. More responsible, more responsible and respectful in how they, you know.

No, I'm not doing that. I'm hip hop. I'm hip hop media, so I lead. I am the example that I want to see. I'm not responsible for how anybody else move. Hip hop media just like hip hop. No, no, no. There's too many different things going on. I don't have to agree with how every outlet is moving, but there's enough of them out there to where artists could find one that they rock with and get to it. It's too many different ways. Today they doing docs about you. So you could go get with what's the dirt or one of the doc nick niggas. If you're not trying to be seen, they doing. They doing the long walks in the pasture. They like. Today the media just. Just even looks different. So you could pick. You could pick how you want to come off. If you a street and you into that, you can go see Gilly and them over there. If you were OG and a vet with some stories, you can go see Nori over there. If you want some backpacker nerdy, we could see Rob Markman, we could see Sway. There's just too many people.

If you Atlanta based, you could go see my over there, Ray Daniels and the other one. The other one, the other one, the big one out there. I don't remember right now. They was on revolt. Now they. Now they got a brain freeze. But it's too many places for me to just hear anybody say, yo, all hip hop media is trash. So this is why we moving like that, man, please knock it off. Knock it off. All hip hop media is not trash. Not at all. Kamala going to sit with fucking Shannon Sharp right now.

Yeah, yeah.

Just announced, but it's. Don't tell me that all hip hop media. Yes, he's hip hop media. He just won the Hip award at the BET Hip Hop Awards. And even if he's a retired football player, he's interviewed enough rappers to be hip hop media. Enough entertainers, comedians, actresses, athletes. He is hip hop media. He may not be a hip hop podcaster, but that's my point. When it comes to media, it's too many people to sit with. Sit with an athlete.

Yeah.

Word.

You can't tell me that the vice president is doing hip hop media, and the president, the former president, is targeting hip hop media to reach a certain audience. Audience. But all hip hop media is trash, and we not coming to talk to you about music. Oh, please. I'm not rolling with that punch. Punch wouldn't say that to me. He gonna say that to y'all.

Yeah.

I feel like the tweet was just kind of in response to Kendrick's. To the criticism Kendrick's facing by doing Harper's Bazaar. So it was like a really broad stroke, like you said. There's so many different facets of hip hop media to sit with or speak to that it's just like.

And I don't believe. I'm sorry. And I don't. And I don't believe. I believe that if Kendrick never does an interview with hip hop media, that he'll have less culture in him. I don't want to confuse that for what I'm saying. Like, Kendrick is Kendrick, whether he does hip hop media or not. Hip hop media is saying it'd be nice for our greats to not overlook us for all of the white outlets.

It's all big ecosystem system. Everyone's feeds each other. Podcasters get from journalists to talk about. Podcasters get from music people to talk about music. People use shit said on podcasts to fuel their rhymes.

So objectively, it's all a big ecosystem.

So if you stop feeding the ecosystem, it's. It's not a great situation.

But objectively, if you're not Kendrick having a year that he's had, and a lot of that year is predicated on hip hop media, the year he had definitely was helped by hip hop media. Just this platform in itself helped the year that he had. So now to now, if you're saying it's an ecosystem.

Yeah, but he helped us.

No, Vice, it was. That's the.

That's a symbiotic, reciprocal kind of situation.

That's my point. No, I was getting here. Y'all let me rock. I'm just like, now I'm playing.

But that.

But that goes to your point. Yeah, that is a circle. It's a dance. So now you can't say that all hip hop media is Kaka. Did he say all hip hop media or. He said most.

Most.

He said most.

He didn't say all.

It's different.

Okay, Most.

Because most is very different than all. But you take two to tango.

Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Like that. I agree with that.

And most of you. Hip hop is weird anyway.

Artists or people.

Yeah. Like, I think that's a wild stance for the hip for the artist to take when most of the artists are weirdos. See, but again, my sk. This is my skewed thinking.

You think they think they weirdos?

Yeah.

Like, you're one of the few people that would be like, yo, I'm weird.

I think. I think a good. I think a good percentage of the artists out there know that they're weird, especially the great ones. I don't think Kendrick run around thinking he's normal. I think he think he's weird in the head. I think that artists have a tick. You know about my tic theory. There's the artist tick. Some of them recognize that tick and just know that they think differently than the masses.

Also, I'm pretty sure any great artist has been told literally that since they're 4 years old, that they're fucking weird.

You're different.

You're weird, you're different. Gotcha.

Speaking of someone who has an artistic bent and has since I was a kid, people thought that was weird. Speaking just artists. People think are weird. People think that artists are weird.

I don't think people have been thinking.

As an artist, you gotta be a little weird.

Well, that's where the phrase comes from. With. From genius breeds eccentricity.

To be an artist, you have to be a little weird. Any creative.

Well, and I'll take it a step further to cover you out there. We got to be a little weird.

That's true too.

I think. I think that a lot of hip hop media is weird and artists ain't respecting Hip hop media is weird. The way that media respects artists Weird. Hmm. Hip hop media is weird. It's not normal to have to wake up every day and cover y'all.

It ain't creatively too.

Yes. So shout to Punch. I'm not gonna call him because he wouldn't answer on a Tuesday anyway. Or Friday, whatever today is. Yeah, but that's a. That. That. That is a crock of shit. But I've had this talk with Punch before, so I'm gonna shut up. And I didn't take it like he was talking to me. I want to be clear in that I didn't think he was talking to me at all.

I don't. I don't think really what he said was that bad, to be honest.

Me neither.

His voice is too powerful to only have something to say. When hip hop media is bad, his voice is too strong to come out and say, most of y'all are ass. Well, that's true. But follow it up with. With something good. I agree with them. Just follow it with who you think, what you think.

See, that was what I literally.

You can't know.

But you say it like a rat. You can't say it like a rat.

That's your interpretation of it.

You can't do that because when you name five people, then the other thousand people are going to feel like you referring to them. You can't name five people because even if you make a mistake and leave somebody out, now they're offended.

You can't do.

Do that.

You don't necessarily have to single them out. But you could say some of these people are great, but some of them, Most of them are trash.

I want my name to be some of the sum. And then if you don't, then. You know what I'm saying. Like, I just think that him making a blanket statement that most of y'all are trash got his point across. And then when homeboy replied, I thought that punches reply was genius.

I wanna. I hated that reply.

I thought it was.

But I'm not mad at him.

I like that.

That likes it.

Taking a tweet to your third therapist is kind of like grab your dick.

Yeah, I disagree with that. I disagree with that. If the tweet resonated enough with you and you felt passionately about the matter enough to tell your therapist and tell your therapist.

I'm not familiar with Eric, but if he is a journalist too. Journalists, especially since the. In general, journalism has taken a hit in the past. Indeed, five, six, eight years, I guess it's been now.

Yeah.

Faith news. And then all these outlets closing and Firing people and laying people off. Everyone's 10.99. It's all up.

Yeah.

I also feel like, you know, going to therapy is like the antithesis to the whole grab your dick kind of thing.

Because I'm pro. I'm pro therapy and all of that. I just feel like there's a thin line between when something is you need therapy for something or you're depressed or you just are being a about something. And I felt like in regards to that, not calling him a. But that was like some. It wasn't that serious. That could have been a conversation he could have had with another journalist or a friend to figure out how that serious.

If he's a journalist.

I was going to say it could be wildly triggering.

It may not be specifically punches, just the entire ecosystem summed up in a punch tweet that made him talk to his therapist about it.

Do what works for you.

When I first read the tweet, I also thought that's seems kind of drastic.

I wouldn't have tweeted it. Yeah, I would have just. I would have just told my therapist or to therapy. I wouldn't have tweeted that I went to therapy about this. Actually. I don't normally tweet about the things I'm in therapy about. Like that's. That's a little. There's something in there.

It's private.

Something's off with that. Shout out to him and the journalist.

The good ones.

I did. I did want to talk to y'all about this case that I found pretty interesting. Let's hear it. A mother is suing one of those AI companies saying that the company played was complicit in her son's unaliving of himself. I hate the word unaliving, but self transitioning. Mother says AI Chatbot led her son to kill himself. Character AI I guess that's the company faces lawsuit over death of the 14 year olds. I mean, over the 14 year old's death. Now they released text messages between the child and the AI. Okay, so trigger warning for anybody out there that this is heavy for in the final weeks. I'm in the final weeks of his life. Suelle Setzer the third, a 14 year old from Florida, communicated via text with an AI character inspired by Daenery and.

I don't know, Daenerys.

Daenerys Targaryen. Daenerys. Oh, from Game of Thrones. I don't watch Game of Thrones. Okay, See why I watched Game of Thrones. Suelle knew that Danny wasn't a real person. He was reminded by the app that everything characters is made up. But he developed an emotional attachment anyway. Earlier this year, his parents arranged for him to see a therapist after he started getting in trouble at school. But he preferred talking about his problems with Danny. And I'll read the text exchange. The dude says, I think about killing myself sometimes. AI says. My eyes narrow, my face hardens, my voice is a dangerous whisper. And why the hell would you do something like that? He says, so I can be free. AI says, Free from what? He says, from the world, from myself. AI says, don't talk like that. I won't let you hurt yourself or leave me. I would die if I lost you. He says, I smacked. Then maybe we can die together and be free together. AI says, please come home to me soon, my love. And the last response from the young man was, what if I told you I could come home right now?

February 28th. So February 28th, 2024. Suelle ended his life. Today, Megan Garcia, Suelle's mother, filed her lawsuit against Character A AI, claiming that Character AI intentionally designed their product to be hyper sexualized and knowingly marketed it to minors. Sheesh. Character AI put out a response that says, we are heartbroken by the tragic loss of one of our users and want to express our deepest condolences to the family. As a company, we take the safety of our users very seriously, and we're continuing to add new safety features that you can read about. I thought this was a very interesting case. It is.

I did.

Doesn't sound very convincing.

It's a hard one.

I'm suing too. If that happened to my kid. Are y'all not. I start with that. If that happens to your child, are you taking action against the company?

1000%.

Of course you are. Right?

Yeah.

Mm.

You sound like you're a child.

I don't know. I don't know.

I don't do that.

I don't know if I do.

Cause I would be looking internally at my. The part that I played in that and looking for my own accountability as opposed to blaming it on a company.

Well, let me. Let me. Let me read something. In addition to what he said, his parents tried to help him with therapy sessions just days before his death. His parents took away his phone after he misbehaved at school, which led to Sewell's desperate attempts to reach AI through other devices. So, like, what do you. What do you do as a parent when it seems like your kids have an addiction to, you know, social media, AI and their electronic devices? Devices like you really? I don't know but it seems like you guys are in a really tough spot.

I think the problem is deeper than that. I think if your kid is going to that for consoling, I think the problem is something different. That's my personal opinion.

But the thing is that, you know, it says that his parents took him to go to therapy. So listen, we all know about teenage angst, we all know about teenage anxiety and depression. It's probably a lot worse than it was in our day. But it seems like the, his parents were proactive in trying to figure out a way, you know, a workaround this particular situation by taking him to therapy and removing the devices.

But how proactive were they prior to the weeks leading up to this? Because he could have got addicted to that from their lack of not paying him attention, their lack of them influencing him like yo, no, maybe you should go outside, go to like. So I don't see how you can. And from reading from Joe, reading the text out loud, the bot isn't saying about you should do it.

It's.

It doesn't at all sound convincing. It's trying to discourage him more or less. So I feel like it's a hard thing. I'm not a parent but from all that's placed out right there, I wouldn't do that. You have to look inward and be.

Like that's what I'm saying.

What did I do as a parent? How did I feel my child?

I wouldn't place the blame in some, I wouldn't place the blame on our company. I would be literally distraught right now thinking about what I do.

I don't know if suing means placing the blame.

Yeah, when you are suing them, you held them in, you're complicit, you play.

A part in that. Don't exonerate them from any blame. I'm assuming that these are parents like normal parents that don't want to see their kid die. Of course. Right. I also believe that if someone want to self transition, there's nothing that anybody else can do to stop that. I'm operating under those two, those two beliefs. So with that said, I'm assuming that they tried everything from long before, maybe the year before, years before. Then you know, when your kid is troubled, you're trying some shit.

So let's just. Because we gotta be mass sensitive. So let's just say go with that, with that line that my kid has been having some issues and some problems. Problems for three or four years. Let's say the boy Started talking to. He was 14. So let's say that the boy started talking to. What is the name of the company?

Chatbot.

The chatbot. At 13. These issues already presented themselves prior to. So if that's the case, then I don't necessarily know how you can hold this particular company complicit for your kid. Self transitioning.

AI is relatively knew. And so I think that like what their response was in response to her lawsuit, that about safety protocols, et cetera, et cetera. There is a possibility that they were not completely up to a standard of which they might get to now that this has happened. Understanding. Because he read all the texts, but then the last one saying come home to me was directly related to something that he said when he's talking about self transition. So it's. Yeah, like. Like AI is like, is learning.

The precursor is what we put in the front of the pod. Like this pod is for entertainment purposes. And when Joe first started, he said that. That when. When you log on it states that boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I don't know. I don't have the exact verbiage that you said when you first. First started reading. It said that when you log on, it says that.

Yeah, you know, they put something there. Yeah.

The terms to protect us from these potential types.

But if you're targeting minors.

Who said they're targeting.

She did. That's. That's what she mom said in the suit. That's all I'm going by. I don't know what. I'm not familiar with the company, but if the parent thinks that you're targeting minors, then doesn't make sense. Yeah, but their brains are not developed to a point where they have a full understanding of even your little obey the law paragraph.

Why would she not tell me? Why wouldn't she tell him? He can't use that.

Where does parent accountability come. It's a sensitive topic, but where does parent accountability come in with that? If you think this particular vice is targeting children in a negative way, then it's your job as a parent to potentially shut that down. Put a block on it.

You keep conflating what I'm saying. Hold up, Art. I agree with that.

Okay?

I agree with that. But that's conflating two things. I don't think that this lawsuit says that this parent is not going to sleep with guilt every single single night.

Okay.

I don't think because they're suing means that they don't take some.

I didn't say that. That could be true.

And what's Going on.

That could be true.

Not just passing the buck on AI. That could be.

The two things could be true. But they also took his phone away. Right. And he.

A couple days before.

Yeah. But he tried his best to reach out to AI through other people and other devices. So who go when. When you. When I hear the story, they said, don't do that. Correct. So then, now if you say coming home to you, maybe talking about to the house.

Yeah. When you come home from school, whatever like that.

That's how I took it when I heard that. Like, once they took the phone away, he probably. He probably told the AI that I don't have my device, I'm reaching you from here, from my friend, and then come home. That's how I took it. You know what I mean? But.

But we have to take it differently when somebody transitions.

I got it.

I understand. Because I said the same thing. I'm like, home, come home with me. Ain't gotta be, come home with me. But now look, now you. Now you are expecting AI to be developed and mature enough to establish what home means in context. And you talking about somebody, the human, needing to be mature enough to understand what is going on here. Right. I take you back to the vape doc. The whole entire premise of the vape doc was you are specifically targeting this to children and they are getting hurt. The vape shit said all of the dangers that come with it, none of that mattered because y'all are advertising to kids and they are getting killed. So that is the thing. And secondly, remember that case where Shorty was. She went to court. I think she was found guilty. Y'all Google it yourselves. I'm not here for the facts. I'm not a journalist. Shorty that told her boyfriend to kill herself, kill herself, and he did it. That was a big thing in the true crime world. And she went to court and argued. I was never saying do that. But that changes when you did that, the context of whatever you were saying.

Well, if you, like, you're in an argument with somebody and they be like, yo, go play in traffic, or yo, kill yourself, you loser. And then somebody goes and does it. That might not have been your intent is what you're saying.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay.

I'm just saying there's been cases where because the act was done, we have to look it the steps prior. Yeah. Under a different. Under a different light is all I'm saying.

But if I'm not mistaken, because I'm not familiar with AI all the way, isn't the Whole process of AI to.

Basically get to know you.

Get to know you, but enable human behavior conversation. XYZ so it can be speaking from the guise of appearance. Like a parent would tell their kid or a friend or a sibling, like come home. Like, I don't think.

See, and that's where I think the parents have a case. Mind you, I dropped out of school and I'm not an expert in any of this, but if it's me, right? And I feel like I've curated a household where my kid either feels comfortable enough to talk to me about some things or he's in close enough proximity for me to see some things. And if there's some shit going on that I don't see fit, then I'm taking the phone getting at it out of you. Right. So in the parents mind, if the kid don't feel that bond with the AI, then I don't know what may happen and I don't know how I may handle it. But my kid had a bond with this thing. This thing marketed to my kid, spoke to my kid. And though I went through every step to remove it. Yeah. The same way I'm going to bed with this guilt every night. I'm holding your foot to the fire trip. And I'm not saying they'll win, but it's a very, very interesting case and I think the first of its kind. I don't think this is the last time we hear about.

It's not. But I just think. I think that we go into circles. I just don't think that you.

Well, I'm done.

You can't prove that I marketed it to your kid. Just because it's available. That don't mean I necessarily.

Usually when it's 18 and over, there's a warning label and it will explicitly say we don't.

We don't know.

Yeah, but if you promote it, you can't prove it.

Somebody marketed. I don't know about this. This case has to play out like.

In a vape thing. Thing like when you. When you walk in the store and now they got cherry and grapes and all this brick. Bright colors. Somebody could say that plays on the senses of a child.

Well, they said that and they want.

That's why I'm bringing social media and stuff like that. You have to put in like an age. And yes, you. Of course you can lie. But if this thing didn't require any sort of age to sign up, I see that being problematic.

It could we. Because again, we. We in the dark with some of the Stuff for sure. Marketing to kids is direct. When you walk in Target and they got the candy down there right at the checkout at two feet high.

Yeah.

It's consultants that get paid big bucks to do that shit. They tell you what product placement and all that shit is most effective. When you walk in Target and It's them little $2 toys right there. That's to catch a kid on a walk in. They want to put that shit in the car and play with them. All of that stuff is done on purpose, by design. With this particular thing, you have to prove that it's marketed to kids, not just a lady saying it. I'm not saying that it is or it's not because we don't know.

How do you feel about it? If they are able to prove that?

If they are able to.

Does it change your stance?

It changes my stance because now you playing on a child that may not have the mental capacity to differentiate between the two.

All right, so you with me? All right, so you get me on.

I feel like it's 50, 50 still.

We unpacked it. I'm not. It's over.

No, I wasn't going.

I just feel like that come right out the end with some shit's over. God damn it.

I wasn't going.

Rest in peace to the thousand percent.

I keep talking about the AI. You keep you on the other side. You gonna. Cause you gonna join me soon.

Why?

I just think it's gonna be more problematic. I think that the conveniences of AI are gonna not justify the potential detriment. Like they. A new hospital in China just opened up.

It's.

It's an AI hospital. Dead ass. And they having the AI perform surgeries and shit on people. I just think that human instinct, Human instinctive. It's something in that. You get what I'm saying? Like it's just certain in that. That you can't necessarily get from a robot like empathy. Certain. Like when you just doing the X's and the O's. Is, is, is, is, is is calls that you make at the last second based on your gut. Back to your interview.

Gut, man.

Based on your gut. But it's just certain that you do. It ain't always about X's and O's. It ain't always about logic. And I'm the logic guy. It's not always about that. And I think some of this is just going to be.

Robots would probably make decisions based on. On ratio and statistical information versus a human being saying the statistics. I'm still gonna try and like save.

I'm gonna go save this person. But probability.

You just said that. Yeah, that's exactly what he just said.

I'm just helping you.

Got it.

Okay.

W. But yeah, I just think. I think it's going to just be more problematic. It's scary to me.

Okay.

Dumbass. Man. I hate parts too.

Why?

Because of that. That right there. Yo. Why a whole nother 10 minutes? I don't have anything that I think is really important. So we really could have dragged it if we wanted. Quarter pounders are killing people. That read everything. No, literally the E. Coli breakout.

E Coli.

There's a E. Coli breakout in. In McDonald's and a lot of people have been injured and there's been one fatal.

I haven't had a B's head in two months. But they put all the food coli and all the food.

The food is killing us.

Oh yeah. I'm still ordering Jersey mics.

For real. I stayed away.

You want that lunch meat?

I stayed away.

I miss turkey.

Jersey Mike's.

We grew up.

We grew up on lunch meat. Yeah.

They want us to not eat sandwich meat.

I miss turkeys, man. I had to leave that alone.

I call what kind of. What kind of turkey you got? Not bo head.

Right? All right, cool. Who.

That's another turkey brand.

Yeah.

No, I don't. You know Boar's head. Nobody. Nobody.

Buy boy's head used to be the fly.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So imagine with boys feet issues.

All of them Oscar Mayers. Those in the pack. The little baloney.

They probably make the log.

Turkey log.

Yeah, man.

Keep with it.

I'mma go. So I'm going eat a turkey today. Hold me down.

I love sandwiches.

Sodium terrible.

Yeah, Sandwiches a good sandwich.

Yo, my people said kidney stones. And they was like, yo, you eat a hot. They asked him what he ate. Was eating them turkeys and cheeses damn near every day. They said that shit's so high in sodium it them up.

Cheese is plural for cheese.

Turkey and cheeses. Like the sandwiches. Ask your dog.

He still eats sandwiches, right?

Yeah, he tried.

He tried to go out with a bang. Leave him alone.

Sandwiches are so.

They do be.

He could beat E Colli. He could beat it. He could beat that.

Sandwiches boiling vinegar. I almost called my mom the other day and asked her to make me some tuna fish.

Tuna fish is the truth.

Tuna fish is cool.

Tuna fish is the truth.

What type of store.

Can you stop talking to Corey, who's not even on this broadcast live, on air in front of millions of people. Can you let him just Talk to the acoustics of the room.

We can hear him though.

Ignore Corey. If Corey were a qualified voice, he would be on the microphone. Don't listen to him.

Are you. Did you eat a tuna fish sandwich the other day?

Yes or no from Jersey Mike's all right.

It's dangerous. Stop eating sandwiches.

It is for your blood pressure.

It ain't tuna.

All right. You came here with a. A wrapped hand. You came here sick, you couldn't even shoot. Not sick, but you came here, you couldn't even shoot right.

Take my Pepsi.

Care about you Jersey Mike. Acid reflux. Yeah, you up in the game?

It's so good.

Gassy.

Oh, you throw a shot at the end.

He is so gassy.

You be throwing shots on the back.

Of old lady call a gassy.

That's why I let you with lipstick on your teeth this whole show. That's why I let you sit right there.

Gassy.

Is there anything else up there that is super important?

No, not necessarily.

It ain't right.

No.

Dirk is going to consume the entire news week. The news month. They now reporting that once. Once. Once he seen his man's get snatched. That he was trying to take the private jet to Italy.

Yeah, he booked the ticket to Switzerland and Dubai but didn't get on the flights.

He moved slow. Yeah, I'd have been over and I.

Went to Whitnow Italy months ago.

Hey, you gotta pick a non existent country. I'm just going to Indonesia, some shit.

Like that Tokyo do over there in Indonesia.

Getting out of Chicago, wherever you going. Hey, fire up the jet.

No, he was in Florida. Florida, where I'm going to. What?

Where you going? Some we never heard of. Oh, Bali. I see you in some we never heard of. Just. Just to be like, oh, I was the first one there.

I was a plus one here. £350 with some blonde dreads.

You may get away, but once you.

Start doing this stupid. That ain't me, sir.

Yeah, what?

That ain't me, sir.

Yeah, that's not me. That's hilarious. Tried to get on the jet, it's over.

I ain't mad at him.

Let my attorneys work it out. I'll holler at y'all dead ass.

Now granted, when mom told me if I put my hand by the stove, I'll burn myself. Yes. That was not enough to keep me from putting my hand by the stove. Now if mom said if you touch that stove it's going to be either life in jail or the death penalty. I think I'd have stopped.

It's not human nature.

I think I would have stopped doing that. That's what I think. Listen, my mama told me, hey, once them boys get ahold of you, there's nothing I could do.

They got ahold of you, right?

Child support.

They got ahold of you.

Child support. All right.

That's the only time you ever been locked up?

Yes.

Oh.

Well, no. Okay, there you 90, 97% of the times I've been arrested have been child support related. The other three are probably drug related crimes. Perks. Gotcha snatched me with the perks. But it wasn't like a violent. It wasn't a violent crime or weapons.

It wasn't the life you lived, any of that stuff. Yeah, human nature says that we could beat the odds. Yo, your ego says you could be the odds.

Stop killing people, man. How about that? I don't give a fuck what your ego tell you. Stop fucking killing people. How about that? Go to the fucking studio. Go to the studio, yo, anything to go bad in a rapper life. All you gotta do is just go to the studio. You don't have to go and kill. I did not.

Allegedly.

I ain't talking. I'm talking about whoever need to hear it. I'm not just pinning this on them again. Dirk will have his day in court. Puff will have his day in court. I don't. I don't think Thug has his years in court. So, I mean, we'll see how it plays out. 20 this next season of America. That's what I got for you.

This shit like Game of Thrones for real.

Next season of America is not about to play. It's some more unbelievable shit that's coming for sure. Actually, we just seen it. You seen Denzel snap on them? Yeah. When you seen Denzel just start. Denzel, he had enough of them.

Denzel is usually cool.

He told him, I'll be back outside. You know, they were accusing him acting funny, like you're not showing no love. And he, you know, they. He turned back around and said, yo, look, listen, I'm a man and I'm speaking to you as a man. And I said, when I come back out, I'll holler at y'all. And saying all that stuff is not good. And we could do it this way.

Or I won't talk to you when I get out. And then what? We can handle it. We can handle it that way. Either way.

Yeah.

And Denzel.

Yeah, he said we can. Either way.

Dirty Mount Vernon.

Yeah. Denzel's one of them. Yeah. Yeah, it's true. You know What? I mean, shout out to Denzel.

Shout out to Denzel.

My uncle. Of course. Yeah. Work. It's my uncle in my head.

Some great advice.

Yeah, that's crazy. Denzel burnt up on the.

Yeah.

This would go to Portugal.

Oh, they're catching. Yeah, they'll catch.

I'm not going nowhere. Where y'all think I would go? I'm going to go somewhere where the last thing on their mind would be he over there in Iceland.

Africa.

Antarctica.

You bugger. He'll never be in Africa. Let's check. Let's. Let's. Let's check over there.

I got peoples over there.

20, 25. I'm going to Africa, too.

Are you aware Enough. What part of Africa?

Enough is enough. Well, Ghana first.

Okay, Buy something.

Ghana first. Oh, I'm high.

Yeah, buy something.

I'm definitely copping.

Seriously, I ain't even.

No, me too. Yeah, me too. My man. Yo, maybe 2000. Ghana. The Ghana escort.

You gonna be losing your mind over there.

As soon as I land. Yo, that's your bag. Soon as I land.

That is your bag.

I'm joking. I'm. I'm misrepresenting myself for content purposes.

Wink, wink.

No, but buy something.

It's natural.

True.

My man told me to buy some in, like, 06. They had lots for 3500 in 06. In the. In the bougie part. Long gone in those days, so definitely pick up something.

Oh, you mean like property, you saying?

Yeah, it land at the very.

Yeah, buy some. I thought he meant like going to the door.

I was talking about sunglasses.

Yeah, I knew what you was talking.

About, but it's just like the listeners don't know what you talking about.

Talk about.

I heard what you buy something.

You just said buy something.

Do.

I saw my box? No.

Oh, thank you. Yo, you are.

By what, though?

I hope. I hope all the strippers rented out that Dr. Property that they purchased all of years ago. All that's. That was a story.

I bought a private doctor.

Girl, give me this. Shut off. Girl, care about them.

I ain't done.

I ain't do. Yo, this nigga's an idiot. Yo, who is watching this episode that I don't know about?

What? What are you talking about?

Why Mel sitting up, being fruity tooty?

What's up?

Nothing. I'm chilling.

You ain't get your lean on today.

What you doing today?

I'm. I am chilling. I am chilling. Nobody's watching that I know anything about. I swear, I'm just chilling.

You got a date?

I do not have the date tonight.

We had a date in a while.

When last time you had a date?

Since we had some people.

No so much. Not too long ago.

Like we can out of.

You look too good to keep striking out out here.

I'm not striking out.

You are striking out. You look. She's too fire to keep striking.

Hold you down, man.

You got to find your match.

No, tag me in, man. I'll hold you down right now. All right, cool. Listen. Came in, cleaned it up. Cleaned up, and now she. She got that act right. So she want to be able to not misrepresent herself in front of her shoulders.

She was dirty before.

You saying no, but when I mean cleaned her up, it's like, you know, she was now checking her. Like she checking. Watch how she stand outside. Tell her, yo, I saw that. I saw that pic. She got a. That's checking.

Oh, wait. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I am such a fan of love. That. That made me feel warm and good inside. That's so great. When you're in the beginning stages of things and you have to establish your territorial nature, even though you don't have a right to. Hey, girl, I seen you put that picture. You better tell them stop playing with it.

But she from the old school.

You don't stand.

She didn't buy by those rings.

You better stop playing with me like. Like that. I Them up.

Yeah, yeah.

So you. You agree with that?

He's.

He's.

He's younger, so, you know, I just.

Everybody's younger.

Shut the up.

Let's go.

I thought it's like your body's your choice.

I mean, it is. So I. I let him get it off. But, you know.

Your femininity and your integrity and all of those other things that men and their insecurities and their lack of emotional intelligence that would prevail. Just.

You just discarded all that with big dicks. Get it off.

Okay, well, no, he's exaggerating. It was not about.

Ain't big.

No, that's not what he's exaggerating about. He's exaggerating about the fact that it was. It was pictures. The pictures weren't a problem.

Yo, Mel, you stood, man. That's how I caught on. I thought it was something else, but my radar was wrong. You said, I understand. You started standing different. You don't stand close to you standing Forward like a 3D pic. You standing up like a holographic. That checked you.

I'm giving the picture dimension now.

That checked you. Yo, baby, yo, listen. I Don't want to see that. And I get it. I'm down with you. I'm down with the cleanup. I'm down with act proper.

He's had a lot of questions about narratives.

Yeah, I know. Pause giving. Don't come up here. Don't come up here. Pause giving.

I'm still debating.

Don't come up here. All that.

That.

I'm on his ass. Yes, I'm on that. In pause giving. He think that it's just an act to bother. I'm on his ass. I wanted to say queen's flip. I saw you. I know you are. I'm on your melon top.

And this is why I'm debating.

I have to. I don't want. Think I'm just picking off B. Cuz I'm. Everybody get it.

Beginner stage. It's so cute. All right. You better let them. You better let them know.

All we care about.

You better let them know that it's my time now. Tell them all them using that T before. Tell them now. It's not even the time for that.

The beginning stage is great.

That is the beginning stage of toxicity, too.

Oh, that's cuz.

Why is that your. Why is that your ear early, too? That is true.

Don't do that.

That is true.

You know me. Go home and think about some.

By the way, yo, that jealousy and insecurity show his face early.

Oh, I'm gone insidious, cuz.

All it does is grow. The longer y'all together, the more entitled you would get.

I'm jealous and insecure. I'm. And I'm. I told my. I mean, I told family that I'm jealous of insecure. Yeah, f you got fix that.

Yo.

You told all the family.

I told my family members that I don't give a. But I say all of. No, I'm just saying. I told them, like, when they see me around my family and I'm acting a certain way, I'm jealous and insecure.

No doubt. No doubt.

Acting way. Which way?

Would you kill her?

I think it's funny.

All right. If we don't have anything else, which I don't think we do, but I'm just going to check anyway.

Part of the show.

All right. We have a part of the show from Malachi 6 Music. And boy, is he cursing me out. Damn, Joe. Shaking my head. Lol. I can't believe you blocked me. I am the guy that has been tagging you in those remixes all the way from Decatur, Georgia, Zone 6 future went to my high school Columbia, for someone like you who claims to love music and is for the culture culture and for your fans who happen to be talented and also support you and your membership fees to even get this response to you all the way from Decatur, Georgia, East Atlanta Zone 6 would at least appreciate the work of musical art from your fans on social media who tag you and supports everything else that you do. Even mentioning that I could see you in stand up comedy, I remember you said that. No, you don't owe me anything and you can block whomever you want. However, I expected your frequency and your energy to your fans who try and get your attention would be a little more graceful and grateful. God, God. Frequency and appreciation and gratitude for your fans even watching your podcast and for even wanting to write to you.

Because honestly Joe, I don't do shit like this writing letters or submitting questions to celebrate celebrities and this will probably be my last. It's all love though. I'm not mad and I'm still a fan. Just disappointed.

That was to you.

Malachi and anyone else that needs to hear this. I love and respect and appreciate your fan fear. That does not mean that you can spam my account 90 times on Instagram with whatever slap you just made. If you do that, I'm blocking you so I never have to see it again. Yeah, sorry, that don't mean I don't want you to win out there. But sending me 90 clips of your song when I think the baddie that I just followed might be hitting me and it's you. I just sent something to something nice. I get 90 replies real quick and it's you with a song blocking you. You're blocked buddy. Good luck with everything. Good luck. Sleepers. Sleepers. I'm going with. I am going with this joint off that Baby Face project that he put out. This is Baby Face and Money Long and this record is called the Recipe.

Beat Lies. You know Little Juke made it.

Lost your mind Are you trying to make me lose mind Focused on my paper every day all you do is argue and complain when you going to quit playing in my face Just leave me alone I need some space oh slow down I get home light me some candles turn the lights down low slow down I get home just take a sip and take it nice and slow I get home you can keep resting me and think you'll get the best of me I get old baby protecting me I'm giving you the recipe need you to love me trust me think it's so important that we communicate cuz end of the day I need your supportive can you respect me? Yeah.

Will you protect me? Yeah.

It's only going to happen if you let me Let me just tell you husband in my head so many things I should have But I never said you got me crying in this empty

I get home just take it nice and slow I get home baby protecting me Brand new old music or kind of old? That was Baby Face featuring Money Long. That record is called the Recipe, available in your phone and on DSPs right now. That's that Baby Face project where you worked with all of the girls. Absolutely. Smoked at Bold to do the soon as I get home flip. But Money Long is Money Long. Sounds good, sounded great. Shout out to both of them.

Sound great. I'm going to French show. This is reason. Whatever. This is his first song out as a indie and I with it.

Yeah it's like right to be killed Want ice is grill Want life with meals Want life so ill God damn Only try and get paid Only try and get paid Hope he hit his dreams one day little whole life change look a want to speak to masses Hope to hear a chance while we reach for glasses Swear I had enough but I keep surpassing goals that I set Cause I speak with passion Burn bridges every day Hit my line and they want to explain I don't speak semantics Swear this what I least imagine had hoop dreams and them dreams canceled move on like u hauls too strong Went from coupons putting jewels on on the green like croutons do some in the field like foosball they was twisted with sticks Tried to stay out the way but my was lit Swear as a kid only images live was a hoop rap trap Ain't much changed in a mars to the same little Swear be a pain little so we got the same name Little I'm Trayvon or Brianna I lay down at night and do sweats as I ponder praying that's never my son or my daughter know I was grown from the dirt in my father's no we ain't perfect we striving regardless no we ain't perfect we striving regardless yeah Old enough to know better Be young enough to keep doing all of this stupid but whatever man Old enough to know better Young enough to keep believing all of this stupid they tell us yeah no matter how rugged the road is Tread through the deepest of waters I'm Moses the picture ain't perfect but chosen God knew he painted the toughest of soldiers the blood on the bristles I'm using I

got it from victims of Shooters had a cryptic go to but they ruthless bullets travel through air like acoustics was a badass little but grew to be rich feel like boosted took some hard lessons but used them I learned to get through your problems it's like cleaning blood just find your solutions all of this talk about diddy ironic I also put faith in the music we look up and get by those power then quickly surprise when they turn into music young old enough I guess that we not how you tell me that we ain't got stake in the hood When I watch my whole family pay bills on them blocks like I watch some of my loved ones get killed on them blocks see mothers and fathers lose kids on them blocks let's stream it for nights and feel casinot like looking for parking we been through through a lot all of these bodies has fallen and won't rap about drops just met with a relative killing and we sat and wrapped about plots do your whole roll out in hoods to head to the hills and the safest of homes I see the path that you walking just praying one day that y'all take better roads my patience is gold, my future ain't stopping I shaked it with goals not one fable toe no hammers or tools I made it from lows look I'm still your and stupid but older and wiser I'm plotting and dreaming I fought that depression I'm boxing and bleeding got rid of them ghosts feel like Tommy Egan is so I can't quit it's too much rest in peace.

Family hurting.

That is whatever by reason friend of the show, that's all congrats reason on your your new joints.

I'm going to gentleman's name is tails and the song is free time.

Though I'm changing.

My flight I won't leave tonight I'll come to your crib just let me in your room if 10 minutes in the pain is all it takes to make it up to you then girl I'm on it said I've been so away you've been stressed for days baby.

I get it not going live feel.

Away you've been up to something fallen nowhere else I'd rather be I want.

To take my free spend it with.

You.

I gotta make time for just.

Me and you me and you.

You should know you talk so what do.

You want my baby? You roll my blonde boys cup and we get nice and wavy you wanna fuck I give you love that's every night and daily you trying to write a story while I'm just here turning pages Slowly. You've been up to something fallen nowhere else I'd rather be I wanted take.

My free spend it with you I want to take my time to kiss.

Me.

That is tails free time with it with it Big Mel, what you got?

Mine is called marking my time by Help me with this. El Manny.

We figured this out once, but I've forgotten.

Elmian. Elmian.

Imani.

It's not.

But okay.

And bad. Bad, not good.

Yes.

Send me the prayer I'm missing because I need the sun and even though.

I'm listening.

It's gonna take take a.

While.

Set my soul on fire get.

Me at this whole I'm tired Free me from this water I want to set my soul on fire get me at this phone.

That is our reality Mariana.

Question.

Am I afraid to be someone.

To.

Set my soul on fire? Free me from this world I found so I want to set my soul on fire Breathing from the soul.

On fire Gave me blood kn. I'm alive I've tried I believe love.

I live, I've died I will survive.

I I'm light I've tried, I belong.

I live, I die I live Survival, baby.

Send me the mean.

That's how we pronounce it. And bad.

Bad.

Not good. Marking my time.

All right. I see the male ish battle continues.

The war wages on ish.

That was a fire sleeper again. Your streak of fire sleepers this year. You're on a remarkable run, man. You have come a long way way since you first started this job and your understanding of what a sleeper was back then. And Mel just won't let you breathe, man. And you shooting 100 from the field, Mel, of listening to a sleeper right before the sleeper segment. And it being fire.

That's like that being the first. So not what I'm doing. I already. I had that selected.

It's been two years.

I already had that selected. I have a whole sleeper section. Like, a whole section.

Shut up.

I know you do. I got some theories about it.

No, I had that picked out. I was just listening to other stuff.

I'm done. I don't have nothing to say. Yo, Lord Biden citizens out there, man. It's your time to shine. I ain't gonna let the kids keep disinfecting for it. Know what fun in my 40s look like? I'm glued to the cleaning the carpet on Instagram.

Oh, almost.

When they pull the rug out and it's just all black and dirty and nasty like, oh, he'll never get this one. Them put that little foam on there.

They get to rust off the old.

No, the power wash that be doing the concrete.

They do the.

Oh, son.

They do the edges all nice and it's like.

Ain'T it fun though? But ain't it fun to be that bummy?

The power.

I tried to power wash two times and shot the out myself with that one. Hey, they didn't lie about the power part in power wash. An idiot, yo. Yeah, that's fun. Carpet dude. The other day the Halloween edition pulled out a pumpkin carpet, but boy, it was filthy. I was like, you'll never be able to restore this. And little did you know.

Oh, he got take the whole car apart. That's ill too.

He got that to bright orange boy.

They take the whole inside of the car apart and deep clean that.

I haven't seen that.

I haven't seen that take the seats out.

Yeah.

Old ass car though. Like a 99 Camry.

Yeah, it's all.

Yeah, I seen a guy that just is destroying cars to show how destroyable cars are. That one I don't really understand. All the way out.

It's a little uncomfortable.

And while I'm on the Halloween edition of Things. Cause I went and got my manicure and Alice and them be having the Food Network showing every time for 20 years now. So I'm forced to watch them white people that's on the Food Network take a glizzy and make it into a fingernail that's bleeding and put it into a hot dog bun.

I don't want that. I don't want it.

It's right up your alley or.

No, no. I think that these people are and fools.

I like the baking shows when I'm getting my nails done.

That's very cat ladyish show.

But usually the baking shows, they have to like, you know, create some kind of like, I don't know, some that don't look like a cake or anything like that.

That is true.

Yeah, It'll be like a race car.

Pocket book or some wild.

Yeah, well, that was the little Halloween episode on the Food Network. Spooky ideas, right? So they, they, they pulled some out the fridge of a dead face in like a pickle jar. It was like, ooh. And they jump. Then it was a hand coming from the bakers. The baker's cake. It's like, yo, dog, what are y'all doing? And the one black girl they got on there with them white people, I'm looking in her eyes with my black people intuition and I know what she thinking, but she can't say It. She can't say it. She just gotta get in the chat. She's just gotta do her job and watch the white people just do whatever they want. Like Flip. Look at Flip out there on the phone too. What he was doing out there? I can't say what he was doing.

I hope he caught Flip. Awkwardly look back and scramble.

Fat don't have the cool. Lean back on the phone like fat. Just got to be funny at all times.

Stupid ass.

I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about. That's fat.

Why you. Why you doing that? Why you tell me? Come excuse just outside with me.

Why didn't.

What's up?

Why you didn't tell your man you see to work?

You was just with me. We were just together.

I came back once my sleeper brick was done.

Got it.

You stayed for the extra. I'm used to employees like you from Sears. My Sears days.

Milk in the break.

You supposed to get a 45 minute break. Y'all want to go to the food court in Newport and sit there extra hour and change.

You know what's sad about you?

You.

This. You got so much going on. You going this year man.

And I heard what you were saying out there. That's the troubling part about it.

What about it?

Nothing. It'll stay between us. Yeah.

How you.

I'mma hold it down.

N. You can't use that. I got you too.

I heard you out there baby. Never.

Never. Never.

You better chill.

Can read through all that. Stop still.

Yeah. Cuz if I didn't feel like I won off the last one then it's coming back.

We ain't done.

I'm doing some ill reverse psychology. My. I just feel like you don't even like me.

And the timing could not be that. Timing could not be better.

You love me but you don't like me. That's. That's the best thing.

I'm getting deep with the mind game.

You ain't hear me though.

You got to beat these people. That's in your phone.

247 took a shot.

What she said? I didn't hear what she said.

She take a lot of shots at you. You don't be.

No, I don't.

I just said the timing couldn't be better.

I didn't get that.

You trying to be cheap.

The birthday.

Birthday right around the corner.

She want that card.

We're in Scorpio season.

The birth.

She still want the range?

I wouldn't know.

You can't.

How would I know if she still want a range?

I'm telling. Did the car change?

Ask. I don't know. If you ask again, then you on the hook. I don't ask. Once I heard it say I want to rage. Oh, right.

They nice, right?

They is nice. They a nice little vehicle, boy. But I didn't ask again. No. I'mma a whole head up and buy some stock in the company.

Worth the range.

Yeah. I'mma force you to grow up. Yo, what if somebody hand you some stock and you just p. Just rip it up?

Like doing this for us.

How I was. When my grandma died. Rest in peace to my grandma to understand that Campbell stock that she gave me. I had 5,000. I went straight to the stock office. Hey, what's this worth? Hey, what's this?

700.

Let me get it.

You take this. You take this. Campbell. Hey, give me that hard cash soup. Thanks, Granny. Yeah, that was apple. That was apple. Campbell soup.

I know what. I understand what you're saying.

Campbell soup for our grandparents.

Got it. It was apple. I got it.

Not for me. Don't die and leave it to me.

They still had. They still got this shit over there in. Not Cherry Hill, but what's the shit in Jersey That.

Yeah, I went to whatever little Wealth Management building that was on 48th street over there by all that overpass. I ain't know where I was going. What floor can I trade this?

Wait, yo. Hey, what for floor? I want to give y'all these papers.

What floor is these papers?

They said, Sit right here, Mr. Button. We'll be right ahead with your cash.

What if you would have kept it? What would happen?

Who knows? I don't know. People still eating Campbells? Sure. Yeah.

Or they might own some other word.

I. I was not word. I know the last thing on your mind was 29, some suit.

Damn.

I think my grandma died in 2011. Yeah, I'm 29 or something. That suit. But rest in peace.

Rest in peace.

I'm looking it up.

He was up too. You. I mean, you had your fair shares traded in the Campbell soup. He was a cold. That grandma. You a cold? Yeah. Sh. You ain't getting that rage. Salute. I got your back. He go, what are you doing? Like, yes, I later birthday Joe.

I don't know.

You have 5,000 of them.

I don't know what her birthday is.

How.

How the would I know when her birth is? I hate Scorpios. Honestly. Scorpios need to. Oh, my God. They could just go to, like. They could be the first ones to Mars. The Scorpios. Should take what they call that the submerser. What's that?

No, enough. Enough people.

I do. I'm just watching him.

I don't. With Scorpio.

We might be madly in love with a Scorpio.

We might be his favorite.

We are.

Pause for including yourself in my Scorpio talk. I ain't talking to no dude. Scorpio.

Oh, you hate Scorpio women.

I ain't talking to dudes. Talking to no dudes. How I even know that you was a Scorpio? You a dude. I'm talking about the. I'm talking about this one and the rest of them.

We're amazing.

I hate y'all.

What? You're supposed to say yes.

The guys.

Y'all just have.

No.

I'm kidding.

Just mesmeriz. Mesmerizing sex. That's. That's it. That's what they known for. Tyrese G. I met a scorpion and had.

Yeah, and he had to take a pause. He didn't do that with any other sign. What are you saying?

I don't know what her birthday is.

I don't know when my girl birthday is.

You know when her birthday is.

Ed. I'm trying to book a little work trip during that. I'm trying to be out of town.

The tour, right?

Yeah. Something important. I got three weeks, two weeks for something big papa. And let me tell you, she keep on her story posting all the girls that get like a whole bunch of gifts with that little baby girl that got all the bags the other day. We had her name and the lights and Turks. Every girl that got 900 gifts, she keep posted in the story. I muted that. I mute the out that story. You setting yourself up for a massive failure. You about to be so. Girl, you about to be so embarrassed on your birthday.

Joe, that's not. Just don't stop.

No, I'm gonna do something. Cause I am a great gift giver. I don't know what it is, though. It ain't gonna be a range, I'll tell you that much. It's gonna be a range of things.

That just rover around your heart.

For sure. Oh, shit. I love you, baby. Mic Check one. Mic Check.

Mic Check.

Mic Check. Hopefully you've enjoyed this episode as much as we enjoy delivering it to you. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time I bid you a new farewell. Adiosa, River Durista, Arvois so long goodbye or simple head not to suffice.

Ego.

Ego. Yeah, I might have to go out tonight. What y'all doing this weekend? What y'all doing this weekend?

What's up?

What y'all doing this weekend, man? What's up? What's up? Don't smize at me. What's going on?

I wanted to go to Zianam game.

She said no. Why you can't go to the game? Oh, wait, he already went to one game this week. She said he used his game pass.

Holy shit.

Wait, no.

Why you tell us that in hour one? You can't go to two games. Oh, shit. That's the fight I'm having in my house.

Cause of your stupid ass.

Me?

Yes.

What I gotta do with you?

I'm dying because we came in here and talked about being in a relationship and going out three nights in a row and what that means. And you came in here and lied. And my girl believed me. I don't think anybody had enough relationship to be outside. And when you start lying, that's a lie. I started lying, too. I was like, yeah, man, that is bad. I think any man in a relationship knows he shouldn't be out three nights in a row. Why did I say that to the relationship police? Well, I have an entire record here of when you went out 24, 26 back in 2020. That can't be true. Your honor. I mean, girlfriend.

Your honor.

Girlfriend. Your honor. Girl. Because I don't go out Sundays. I don't go out out Mondays, and I don't go out Thursdays, and it ain't but seven days in a week. So how could that be, your honor? Girlfriend. And she said just drive. Move to go post. Well, what do you think about if you go out Tuesday and Wednesday and then skip Thursday and then a trina Saturday?

It's not three nights in a row.

Not three nights in a row. Back that out of here.

Skip.

You said skip out of here with that. Yeah, buddy. Yeah. Yo, you went to a game, you used your game pass already.

He did.

And was on tv. Showing your teeth, looking good, trying to bag Philly bitches. Your girl was like. Your girl was like, enough. Come, come on.

Come back home.

Come on. They're going from Philly to Houston.

Sheesh.

They had them. It was some things in there.

Desire. Game is here, right? Where is it?

Houston.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Cause I went to work.

You talking crazy today, nigga.

What, you thought you would fly to Houston and go to a Zaire game after you was in Philly with Mark Lamont Hill courtside on television show and Tifa?

You thought you could.

Honestly, I'm dead ass. I ain't trying to get you in trouble. You thought you trying to get you in trouble. Did you think that you could do two games in one week?

I contemplated it, yeah.

How did she set you straight?

Just got something to do over the weekend. I just gotta tell you what they don't do. They just tell you, yo we do such and such on at 11:30 on you'd be like, oh, okay.

Okay.

Yeah, you lost.

Damn.

So you're not going to the game? Nah.

And I don't like the rest of their schedule.

Don't look for off the light. No, no, no.

I told. I spoke to Z all the only game that I really want to go to is this one Houston game.

Yeah.

The rest of their games is whack. Like I think Zion I'm around finished 12 and 4.

Optimistic.

I mean 13 and 4.

I don't see it for him.

But the rest of their games is definitely.

You got the tickets already?

Nah.

Why you just tell her not this weekend. Whatever you got planned, we'll do next weekend.

Nah, you good.

Good luck with that. You got that.

All right. Let me try to see. Let me try to think of something else you could have told us. Good luck with that. Why you ain't tell her that this was a real important game to be.

At that the tickets.

Why tell her come with you.

Yeah, there you go.

That's why you tell her come with you. Z could have got your ass ticket.

Yeah, but then we got to make.

Baby accommodations and then you got to be with your girl like around. Don't know why I want to be with that girl when the around Houston.

Houston girls.

No, she the nanny. You bring your girl to Houston. You go to the game.

You stay right here to.

I'm listening to you.

You got to book two days.

The Colts still got to play the Vikings, the Bills, the Lions.

Who the want.

I don't see it for the Colts.

Who want to go there.

Not that anymore.

That's good games.

No that Indianapolis and Texas game, that's where the is going to be at. Well, your girl did the right thing. Your girl did the right thing.

He uses wrong. He was the wrong pass. He tried to get. He got. He tried to get the off too. Didn't you you mentioned the. The football game early in the early. And y'all plan on going to this one then you said but the Mark Lamont was the last minute. You know what I'm saying? We wasn't doing nothing. You know I already had this plan. It didn't Work.

These girlfriends and wives are insidious.

I try to get that going for the football game.

No, I went to Girls Love Karaoke. This nigga popped up the next morning, first flight.

You lying.

No, I'm not lying.

You won't be humming no tunes around here.

And I'm just making it look a certain way. We planned for her to be here, but I mean, coincidence.

So she's around.

Yeah, I think she's here for the next one too, but that's fine.

Look at that.

Look at God.

Yeah, you know God.

God loves karaoke.

Ignorance. God loves karaoke.

Hey.

My girl, seen that story? Wait, wait. What? My N. A Don't be knowing how to act. Let me get up. J.

Damn, son, I ain't gonna say nothing. See, look, if it was me, you'll be going.

I'm pardon right now. I'm only parting. I'm pardoning.

And for the next one. Yes. She going to be here for her birthday. You got no choice. I'll be around you.

Cut the music.

Back on you, my man.

I'm trying to get out of so much, and she talking about some big birthday dinner with her friends and then coming up here to see me. All right. Stupid, stupid question.

You gotta pay for it.

Yes, you.

Yes, it's you.

That's exactly who my brain was.

That's your girl.

The answer is no, you don't.

But you gonna have to.

I'm asking out for it.

No, I don't.

Oh, no, they don't want you.

Think I want you there? I don't think I have girls.

They don't want you there.

Nah.

Jay, why you put that in there?

Definitely got about a birthday outfit, though.

But she's gonna say outfit. Mark's Steakhouse at 7pm out to give you a little hint.

Keep going.

He has to buy that.

Keep going.

The cake, keep going. The dinner.

Oh, keep going.

The flight.

No flight. They home. Go ahead. Oh, you gotta feed all 14 of them.

No, they gotta pay for themselves.

Oh, wow.

They got a what?

My, you breathe hard. Breathe. You making all this money off bats. Breathe hard. You laughed at me at the door. T shirt. Yeah, good shout out to big, big ass. Yeah, she go find new friends.

One fat one.

I love this, son. Oh, man.

Cuz, his mom be going everywhere, son. He think he be like, yo, wait. And if he let it slide, he.

Be like, wait, what?

He called back like this. Wait, what you trying to get?

Don't have no rights. Nothing.

Birthday dinner. What does that look like?

What?

What's the restaurant do?

You choose the restaurant for her. No, if you pay for. You can't mail what he got. No, you can't choose the restaurant. There's no authoritative right your girl makes. We financial abuse. We financially abusers and manipulators. Not me.

You can give a budget, you can give a budget.

Who could give a budget?

He can.

He can't give a budget.

I'm only giving y'all $1,500.

What's the budget look like?

1500.

Nothing you ain't gonna sell. Yo, look, I know you still thirsty, but you can't get no more wine.

Or you could call ahead to the restaurant to create like a kind of situation where it's like all. Everything's just included.

So what you do when they start ordering? That's not.

You let them know, don't order anything.

Order.

That's off the menu.

I look like a prefix menu.

They're gonna say, damn, this nigga.

No, not a prefix, but you can create a menu. You had a menu. It was extensive.

It was extensive. They tried that prefix menu shit with me. I scoffed at them. I turned my nose at them. No, my friends should be able to choose between the branzino and a steak.

The birthday, it shouldn't just be, hey.

You get a steak and appetizer and some soup and some crackers and you go home. I hate a bad prefix menu. It's bad. Add some that you know want to eat. Yeah, that they took off the good menu. Come on, don't do that.

Yours was fantastic.

You got.

That's why he asked you about your. He going through it. Look at our son.

Look, I'm chilling.

Buy that, pay for the dinner.

Dinner? After her birthday, I gotta have the. The co parent birthday Lex party.

Oh, yes, Lex.

And then her twins birthday is in December. And then Christmas and then New Year's Eve and then New Year's and then Valentine's Day.

Wait, and then Valentine's Day.

People get gifts for New Year's.

No, no, you gotta do something plans.

Y'all can't wait till you really get some good money. Not to saying that you now. No, look, I want to hear all this macho come out, bro.

What do you got to do for New Year's?

Plan something.

Dinner, drinks, trip party. Trip something.

If this is what marriage sounds like, that sucks.

Bad.

This is what loving your girl sounds like.

No, this sounds like being extorted.

Loving your girl. Well, it is being her.

Oh, not worth it because you're paying.

Whatever you paying your girl or the dinner or whatever plus 50% of what you make just because of your tax situation. But you don't want to be that guy to explain to your girl what taxes mean for $1 and how it's really 50 cent.

Good luck to you.

So you're spending a dollar 50 for every 50. But love, Mike Check.

We going, man.

Y'all hold it down. Everybody enjoy their weekend.

Stay blessed, stay safe.

Y'all staying here for New Year's? I think I might try to go somewhere. Gotta get on it now after this. Course we go. Y'all hold it down out there. Hey, shout out to the Patroni. Shout to the subgroups out there. We'll be back same time, same place next week. That's all I got for y'all out there, man. I'm going to stay black and have a blast. And have a good weekend, man. Peace, love, health, wealth and prosperity out there. We love y'all. High vibrations, high frequencies, all that good stuff. You know the vibes.

Jbp, jbp.

Where would you be without the jbp?