Transcript of Episode 767 | "Gear Grinders"

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Dude was all yelling.

Nah, I'm just saying, you paused so much. Dude, it was a stretch. I was sick nasally. What up, Flip? Fucking inflamed back here. I don't want to say it. Pause. You know I sound good. Flip, you look good. What's up, man? Thanks for joining us. Thanks for joining us. What's up? How's everybody doing? How's everybody feeling? What's poppin?

Feeling great.

What's poppin? What's poppin? What's poppin'what's? Poppin, though? It's good.

Amazing.

All right, all right. Good to see everybody. Got my guy Ian Dunlap in the building. Glad to be back.

I miss y'all. How y'all feeling?

Real good. Good, good. Thank. Thank you for joining us. It's a beautiful day.

Glad to have you.

Good day, sir.

We gotta come on my guy. What is up?

Doing it again. You doing it again? You all right? Doing stuff right under our nose.

What's.

What's going on here? What's this?

I with you?

But right. You doing your right or no? No, you're doing it again.

You can't. You can't get, you know, Wi Fi. Yo, this is. Once he go, man. And read the tea leaves. Nah, it was a lot of that in the street. You think I am doing something under your nose?

Yeah, you are.

Ian is our man.

I love him. Very nice guy.

Great, Great broadcaster.

Amazing.

Happens.

I've been trying to collab with you for a minute, too. We gotta do something.

Oh, anytime. But we're not talking about that now.

There you go. Y'all got chemistry.

Good.

This guy is crazy. Good. Good chemistry. Chemistry with your co hosts. That's a thing up here. This guy's a fool. Yeah, that's a thing up here. Hey, who needs to hear it? I don't know. How you interact with your co hosts is a thing.

It is.

Yeah. That's all I got for y'all. All right, who's ready to rock?

Wise words.

Who's ready to rock? Are we starting with male threatening bitches yeah. Who you threatening? Male threatening somebody.

Oh, is that what we're gonna start with? I wonder if we're gonna start with some other shit.

Well, before the music comes on, this is like a little pre start.

Okay, well, listen. Okay, I just. I tweeted something, and it came off like a threat, but I don't think that that's what it was.

That was a threat, Bill.

Was that a threat?

What was it? It was a threat.

What did the tweet say?

And something about you could get touched or some shit.

Oh, shit.

Well, no, let me do it. Cause she bleeped out the word nigger and her threat.

But I did say bitch ass in it.

Bitch ass in asterisk. Asterisk. Hey, so she type it like a Karen. It's like, girl, if you gotta do all of that, then just use a different word. And who was you threatening? They thought you got hacked. They said, oh, Mel, yeah. Cause they know you pussy. So they like. Oh, shit. They know they like. Mel is that. But then niggas went and got the fouls. They were like, yo, y'all know Mel used to run with the Rough Riders. I was like, no, I did not know.

You know, Mel's been to jail several times, too. Like, maybe I just suppressed that part of myself a lot because I really did not like myself. My visits to jail, I didn't know.

There was such hardened criminals in the room.

Openly threatened people. I did not. I didn't know that, though.

I mean, I didn't put a name on it.

It was, you know, Ron Eisley went to jail. Anybody think he tough, either? He did. Even though he's probably tough. Yeah. Yeah.

He's probably back in the day, especially.

Yeah. And now I think he'll stab you. His brother. His brother didn't get that pub back, Brother. No, no. Oh, he took all that. All right, so what would you went to jail for?

Assault, assault with a weapon, attempt to obstruct justice, intimidation of a witness. I told you guys this story up here.

I know this.

No, you only told us assault.

I did not know that.

You didn't add all that extra stuff.

That's crazy. Oh, shit. All right, so the tweet stands.

It stands.

The tweet stands.

It stands.

Oh, shit. Oh, my God. Also, I don't know who up here needs to hear this, but public threats to people are not good. It's also nobody's professional. Just so we're clear.

In my defense, I was, you know, I'd had a couple of spicy margs. And maybe a little bit of brisket.

The allegations.

Oh, yeah, yeah. We're not addressing that stupid ass shit.

Mocktails.

No, they were cocktails. They were cocktails.

I'm starting. Thank you. I don't like the word. Cock and tails. And in silence.

Spicy margs make Melly Mel spicy.

Unless we. In the sex club, they called you ynw Melly. That's funny.

Yo, that shit is funny, bro.

I like that nickname. I'd like for it to stick.

Peace and love in 2025.

It's not. It's not sticking, Just so you know. It's not sticking.

Damn it.

Ymw, Melly, you're such a focus. What am I doing here? I'm doing. I need to get stronger. I got a free training session at my gym, and the guy, he threw me on the bench press. Right when I get there, he goes, give me eight reps. So I gave him eight. Then he goes, give me one more. Why don't you just say nine? I told him, I can't do one more. And he goes, I can't isn't in your vocabulary. I was like, then I'm unable. That's definitely my vocabulary. I don't know a lot of words. So when I was in the gym, then it went to the men's locker room, to the. To the steam room. And if you're not familiar with the steam room, it's a great place to start a relationship with another guy, if you're looking for that. I'm not looking for that, but there's a guy in there. His name was Travis. He was looking for that. And he asked me questions, lots and lots of questions. And I entertained those questions because I'm an entertainer. And so, like, I'm on my way out. I'm about to leave, and before I can, Travis goes, I'll see you later.

And he waves like this to me, just like that. So I'm standing there, I'm thinking, like, I guess I'm gonna wave back. But when I did, all that came out of my hand was this. My point is, I may or may not have a boyfriend. Mike check. Mike, mike, mike, mike, Mike check. One, two, one, two, one, two, one, two, one, two. The left levels. The levels. The levels is good. Of course it's good. It's parks on the board. We don't sound like y'all. Y'all went to B H and spent the fucking $49. This man static and y'all talking over white noise like Ian Elliott Wilson did in their interview.

But we here I sold more dope than I sold records. You niggas sold records, never sold dope. So I ain't hearing none of that street shit. Cause in my mind you motherfucker sold so got rich.

Shout out to wherever you may be.

Listening from but I'm a sink Always for the ladies, always for the ladies.

Out there Push and see what's good.

I wanted my purer ar blonde hair blue eyed like the furor the judge and the jury the jury man froze watercolors on my neck Rhyming when you bloody we ain't the same color clarity a diamond N I ain't got nothing.

In common with your pain in my.

Heart it's as black as my we let this rise.

Out there all the parents out there, all the kids out.

There worldwide worldwide queen what up Queens.

What up Brooklyn what's good?

Before all the friends out of fort.

Overnight I seen a go get a.

Coworker Postal workers out there all over the world, the truck drivers out there, waiters and waitresses out there Everybody in the night life accord.

Black marble white.

Balls.

In my paper Couldn't fathom my.

Wealth Pillar school in Ethiopia should enroll.

In myself my body and mind Food for the soul when you feeding on hate you empty my I never heard that song before. Me neither.

Really?

I never push a verse, man.

D.C. what's popping? Took my heart away from money yeah, y'all know my vibe when it's fall in New York, man Frock daddy is here. Frock daddy is here in the flesh.

Only hope I had was selling dope was on my grind. Sometimes it's harder than to sell a float. My mama taught me never steal never tell them folks I grew up looking late night.

Ambition.

Hey, Jersey City, what's good?

I think we ready to get there.

Shout out to the people that got us on the screens with the leds around. I love seeing that have got us on projection screens and all that. I appreciate you. Feels good to be loved. Feels good to be hated too. But I ain't gonna tell y'all that part. Ego unlimited for my yeah yeah, what's up? What's up? Yeah, what's up? What's poppin'gonna? Tell me I played the same Jeezy set. I know what I played. I know what I played. Oh, Joe, that ain't real rap ain't really his bag. If I get in my rap bag, the third of y'all will be lost out there. Watch y'all mouth when you talk to me. Keep my applause going. I hate reading Stupid shit. I'm here today. I got a good night's sleep. Almost didn't. Fucking with Ian Dunlap. Almost didn't. Messing with that Ian Dunlap and pergola.

Boy, what a time.

First floor bar. Not my normal style, but.

You got a call.

No, I don't want to hang out with y'all. Y'all ain't getting no call.

No, you got a call.

No, it wasn't a call. It wasn't call time.

Gotcha.

It was alone time. I see. I posted my Kobe picture. Isolation is necessary.

It's toxic.

Yeah. It's time to get my thoughts. Until Shorty came over there and fucking interrupted. But it was good to see Shelly. Shout out to Shelly. Yeah.

And old girl from Houston.

Oh, is that where she was from?

Yeah.

Setting the tone today. You good?

Stop, man.

Stop it.

Setting the tone.

Stop it.

Setting the tone today.

You still go back there and do that? I'm watching you the whole day.

I'm setting the tone.

You go back there and do that.

Little whisper shit by example.

Today, when you whisper the part you do, you got some cues. When you touch his shoulder, your pause, they got some stupid ass sign language where they understand each other. No.

Like that baseball.

Yeah, Leave that in all the way.

Shout out to the match, Congratulations. Way to come back. Way to come back and represent the city properly after getting cracked 9 nothing. So really happy about that. Go Yankees. You already know the vibes. Go Knicks. I guess. What episode is this? What episode is this?

767.

Welcome to episode 767 of the Joe Budden Podcast, brought to you by Powered by a Few by Pride Fitz Prize Fish game. I know a couple of y'all might have won out there this weekend. Toy star sending me. Hey, I just can't keep hitting. I was like, all right, all right. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, highly favored host, Joe Budden here with a few really amazing people to my right. You're into the Vibes, man. You had Smooth magazine, you had King magazine. You seen all of the fucking videos. You've seen the fucking just trail of greatness since 90 something. 99.99n was out before me. Yeah. What was I doing when Mel was out? God damn, I was a pup. Still, I had no deal. Go ahead, Mel.

Hey, what's poppin?

Melissa Ford is in the building.

I am. I am in full effect, Hooty.

Who next to fucking. Who next to her? Queen's flit, Mr. I do what the fuck I want around here, huh?

Don't say that.

No, no, mister. I do. I come and go as I please. No, no, mister. Make sure my re up is right, mister.

Make sure.

I'm tired of sitting still. Let's go.

Let's go. Tired of that.

Let's go. Turn it up in the fourth. That's right. Get your shit off, Flip.

That's right.

Fuck these niggas. Even if it's me. Even if it's me.

No, it.

It's time now.

No, no, it's time. I'm happy to be here.

I'm happy to be here.

I'm happy to be here with my cast.

Good to see you.

Yes, thank you.

To his right. Come on, man.

You that nigga, son. How you match the sneakers with the hoodie? Like, look at the yellow.

The yellow, yeah, with the yellow.

Kobe.

I see you.

Let's go.

You here.

Smile, nigga, smile. Think we ain't seen the pictures, nigga? Some other shit. After your man behind you. We gonna get to that later. How you doing? N. Introduce your man yourself. Introduce yourself.

You're an idiot, bro.

Introduce your man properly, man.

Come on, man. King Wawa, huh? King Wawa, huh? Huh? North Jersey's finest. You seen him in Elizabeth at Home Depot, man. Y'all know the vibe.

Ping pong master.

Ping pong champion. We gonna get to that soon. We gonna get to that soon, huh? My man Big Ish in the building.

Big Ish.

That's that. Ish available right now. Stop fucking playing with him. To his right. Come on, man. New shades, but no shade. That's new shades.

His eyebrows are sharp, too.

Ooh, eyebrows are sharp.

He got his eyebrows shaped up, yo.

Shaped her eyebrows up on him.

And you be going to poppy in them.

Yeah, look clean up. Oh, he got threaded.

Yeah, they got threaded.

You got threaded. Why your eyebrows looking beautiful?

Never, bro.

Come on, man. Come on. Why do your eyebrows look beautiful?

Cause I'm beautiful.

Come on, man.

Come with the territory. You heard them.

I never peep the eyebrows.

Big three. Look at my eyebrows, though. Big freeze freezes. Big freeze in the building. Ian Dunlap is here. I introduced him earlier, but he's a great guy and we all love him. So make some noise, fam.

Welcome back, Ian.

Welcome back. Elmira's finest fucking. The best engineer in the universe. That's why we don't sound like y'all. Y'all sound trash. We were just discussing it. We was just talking about how horrible all of you guys audio performance is. Oh, my God.

Almost unlistable.

Oh, my God. How do you do it even hard on the ears. How do you even do it? Grammy nominated. Yeah. You hear that? Jeremy Heck.

Yeah.

Hey, Jeremy Heck. Can you hear that? A lot of other shows got a white boy. A lot of them ain't Grammy nominated. Jeremy Heck. Shout out to Jeremy Heck. Those guys over there.

You don't need a noise gate, huh?

Elliot Wilson, man, make some noise for Parks, man. They talking about he never bought one Rolex. He never bought one. He didn't go in there and get one. No, no.

Two or nothing.

Double.

Yeah. Me and my dad. Boy loves his father, loves his dad. Oh, man, I love my dad, too. But I quickly learned the second that the gifts get really, really, really good, it's hard for him to go back down.

That's true.

You gotta do quantity.

Like I tried to do something ill one year, the next year, he was right. He was looking for it. He said, hey, man, if you do that thing like you did last year, we set the bar. Yeah, that's a mistake. Never do that. Never set the bar. Poe is here, Corey is here. Erickson is here. Everybody is here remotely is here. And last, but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here with us. How's everybody doing?

Amazing. How y'all doing?

Good, man. Feeling good. All right. There's not really anything super important to get to, so this is going to be. I'm just going to catch up with you guys and put a. Put a tinfoil hat on at some point. Ooh, I love it because Ian sent me Conspiracy Theory topics.

Oh, that's your bag today. Okay.

Absolutely.

I really enjoyed watching you at the Barclays just run around and. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You are a success. I don't even have nothing to say. This my man.

What happened? Tell me about it, how you felt about it. I mean, it felt good. I mean, the Barclay did call and said I wasn't supposed to film in the Barclay, so I had to edit some parts out, man. But it was a great feeling, man. Facial recognition. The love I got from all the people was amazing. And it felt great being there, you know, that's what it is.

That's dope, man. Good.

I went to the Wild N Out. Wild N Out backstage. Yeah, I went backstage and shit and, you know, meant to talk to Nick for a little bit, but I was bombarded by people. I'm gonna catch him. You know, you flip it up. I felt good, too. And no, I'm outside, man. I'm outside. I'm here to work, Joe, you know, I know you got your little plan. We'll get into that. Me and Mel had a meeting this weekend. Me emailing Ian. We'll get to that. We said we gonna talk about it. We tried to run from it youthful to introduce it. But me mailing in, we had a meeting on the corner with some French people. I felt like I was about to be taken and stolen. But it was some freaky shit going on. Like she speak and she spoke like she speaks French. Now all of a sudden, the Canadian from Canada. Oh yeah, I forgot. I didn't know I forgo God about that. But yeah, it was. It was great. I'm happy that you. I like you said what?

I'm stupid?

Why?

What that got to do. I just rolled with it now. She came, of course.

Lot of people.

French.

I forgot.

No, it's our second language. Like how you learn Spanish here? We learn French in Canada. It's part of our curriculum.

We don't learn Spanish.

Curriculum. Right.

It's an official language of.

Right. Yes.

No, I gotta learn the basic Spanish. Some stuff. I feel stupid pulling the translator app.

Out for, you know, how to say hello.

Like I should know the fucking muy bien or whatever that is. Like the basic. Hey, how much?

Yeah, dinero.

But don't be like ish. Colin.

Mucho, mucho cache.

Friday night was the start of my spy adventures. Start.

There's multiple spy adventures this weekend, plural.

He's always on a spy adventure, but usually it's from his phone. Yeah, but he actually went outside this time.

Don't reveal too much about me. I don't feel like the audience really knows that I'm sick.

I think they know the girls.

No, no, I don't think they know the degree of my obsessiveness and how it works when it's in effect.

Okay, we'll keep that included over the years.

But you're right, carry on.

Yeah, quiet Friday night is normally my go out and thought it out night. But Ish was taking too many pictures in the streets. I mean, I'm here to tell the truth. That's your truth.

Go ahead.

So I had to come and investigate and see what was so what all the teeth was about.

Journalism.

What was the teeth? What's the teeth about? I had no idea. So, teeth. Yeah, on all the pictures he smiled.

Oh, he showed a lot of teeth.

He's happy. Yeah, but nah, nah, too much teeth for me.

Okay.

So Friday night I learned on Patreon, it's just going the paddle of the sexes. Boy, I thought that was hilarious.

Why I went last year.

Wait, was this on Brand? On Brand? We saw you last year with your nipples out at Paddle of the Sexes. The Reddit found it.

Yeah, I mean, I wasn't hiding, apparently.

At the ping pong. No, with the nips.

You're welcome. Anyways, go on.

If I see that, I think I got a freak. I ain't gonna lie.

I mean, girl.

Anyway, Pad or the sex? What?

I was gonna say keep. Keep up with that narrative. But anyways.

I'm going to spy on ish1. And Mel was out with a shoulder injury, but I know she went to Paddle with the Sexes last year, so I was hoping to catch her at a ping pong table after she told me that she was going to have shoulder surgery.

You'd have walked in like I got next.

See, I'm here to clear up a few conspiracies. Y'all think Mel called out? Cause of whatever. She had shoulder surgery, little rotator cuff. So I was going. I had Dare her. Would have played ping pong that night. But I did. But she was not there.

I was not there. I was at home recovering, convalescing, if you will, from my shoulder surgery.

Convalescing.

Convalescing. Word of the day.

So the real fun begins and I just get to watch ish float around.

Even better.

Yeah, go ahead. What do you think? Play with. I mean, I don't even have a big takeaway here. It was just fun watching.

What did he do? What did you see? What stood out?

To see this mayor bag. I would love to hear this one. Go ahead.

Put that rapper brain to use. Did he play the whole room? Put that rapper brain to use.

Canoodling.

Okay, a little. Cause the audience don't know Slate is from the old school. We've done Slate. We know Slate. We've been familiar with Slate for forever. So I walk in there and I didn't plan on telling this story. I was just going to crack on. It's floating around. But. All right, fine. Y'all force it out of me. So I walk up in there, it's me, it's Corey, we got fucking Buck. Buck and Dwayne and Dirk. They all mad big. We get right to the front.

Nick said Joe had security with him.

This is for a foundation. It's for a foundation. Great. Cause the girl in the front is somebody that they got to work the front and explain the foundation and what you need to do to get in. Younger, younger girl, but really diligent at doing her job. So she got me and these Four giant niggers standing here. While she explained to me the process of paying to get in Paddle of the sexes.

What was the ticket?

I don't know. Cause all I heard was blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But I like to let people do their jobs, so go ahead. So I was like, all right, I'll make a foundation. She was like, great. So just walk over there to the long tables where the line is. They'll give you a ticket, you'll pay some money, you sign your name and yada yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada. For mad long she stand there until somebody would sense came from behind the curtain and said, no, no, no, no, no. And I said, no, I was just gonna let her go. Thank you. That was.

That was a great spiel.

So then she bring us in there, Shareese. And it's like a content house. Shareese say, hey, we gonna get you in front of this MSG step and repeat. And we're gonna get you to do the MSG interview. Sit down for five. I said, no, no, you're not. I said, no, you're not at all. Nothing remotely close.

You should just give Corey to what.

You'Re saying is gonna happen. And I walked away from her and went and stood over there. And everybody just had phones and videos. It was recording. Constant reminder for me, why don't normally come to these types of shindoos. Ish.

Did you do the podcast?

Podcast?

Whatever the.

Whatever you described.

You did the MSG interview?

Okay, okay, okay.

Well, anyway, when I finally go bust through the curtain where everything is. Cause I was at the bar at the early at the entrance. When I bust through the curtain, it's an arcade.

Okay.

That could be lit. Hold on now. Yeah, I'm not all the way.

Yeah, I'm following so far.

He's arcade.

A good one.

Yeah. What they had a little basketball hoops.

Little street fighter, I don't know.

And it was a lot of ping pong tables. Right?

Okay.

Playing ping pong. Okay.

Heads to paddle.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know why I thought paddle with the sexes meant it would be a game, a featured game or two highlighted and people would be watching that. This was just a bunch of people playing.

I was like a ping pong ball.

It was a tournament.

No, it's a tournament. Yeah. So you go through each and every.

Like, I've seen some ping pong bars popping up. That's the thing too.

Anyway, yeah, I went and stood in a corner and hid like the first corner I could find.

Sounds like you.

But then the drunk girl that worked at Def Jam back in the day started talking to me a lot. And I kept peeking over there to see Ish. But Ish was standing where he could be seen over there. He was illuminating, of course. Mad bright standing there, light skin as hell. He didn't walk around, but he stood there just trying to have this fucking mystique, Morris Chestnut face. And I want to walk over there and talk to him, but he right under a spotlight. It's like he always in the brightest place that you could be in the spot. So now I never walk over there to him because that ain't my style. Male voice pop up in my head. You two are like vultures playing me opposite sides of the room. And it's like, it's not that. It's not that. It's just not, ugh, I can't go over there. I can't. So Corey goes over there, they talk. We stand there for about 10 minutes. I tap Corey, give him a little sign, and we get the fuck up out of there. And that was it. And then I couldn't go anywhere for the whole Friday night because I fell asleep as soon as I got home because it up my nap time.

Going to spy on him. Going to spy on him up my nap time.

He didn't even come back with.

And that was the end of that. Yeah, no, you ain't going to the spot. No, no.

I was wondering.

You went to the spot?

I ain't get a phone call. No, we was going. I was going, you know.

Okay, so now we got to rely on you. I did paddle the Texas recap.

Nah, I think it was. How'd you do in the tournament? I didn't play. I wasn't one of the contestants. I didn't play. It was a dope event. Shout out to Cherie, shout out to.

Edgar, because you just. You're a monster dog.

But no, it was dope. It was basically like Joe said it was. It's a charitable event where ML played last year. So let's say it's 16 people or 30 people. And it's basically just bracket all the way down. Yeah, bracket. And then the winners win. But it wasn't what Joe saying arcade. It was just a whole bunch of ping pong tables with people playing. It was a little festive. It was bright. He did come in, hide in the corner like he be on his normal. That wasn't gonna come over there and talk. Well, he might have came over here if it's dark and talked to me. But I was just standing by the DJ and me. Corey talked over there. It wasn't what he'd say, but.

So y'all didn't talk at all on the spot? Yeah, we did.

Okay.

You and Joe smoke on the spot?

Yeah.

Okay.

Just not in the arcade.

Yeah, we was at the bar.

Cake.

So it was broken down in sections.

A lot of hard working people in it.

Got it.

Can we. You don't want to go down that alley, do you?

So listen, this fool comes over to me and says, yo, could you get me out of here with these regular joes? I don't want to be around the working class people.

Ish. Oh, shit. I'm editing that right out of there. Don't worry. Hey, don't worry. I'm editing that right out of that broadcast. That's what we doing.

Yo, it's too many nine to fivers in here.

I'm like, yo, this guy is crazy.

How could he tell?

I have no idea how you could tell it was too many nine to five. I mean, you could tell kind of.

What's a nine to fiver look like?

I know a lot of nine to fivers that put that on. So, like, is it.

I remember back in the day, nine to fivers, we. Well, we all used to bridge and tunnel.

Oh, Bridget tunnel works.

Anybody know what bridge and tunnel means?

I think I'm officially bridging tunnel now.

Though, a little bit.

No, you're not.

I don't know what Bridget Tunnel is.

Bridget bridge and tunnel. Is that what New jerk. What New Yorkers call the people that come over the bridge or through a tunnel to get to New York to go to the.

After the people that went like, Monday, Monday through Friday. And now we're going outside the bridge and tunnel.

Or the ones that don't go home and change.

I don't think.

No, I'm not saying.

Did they come directly from work? And then with this.

There was a time in which showing up at the club or the lounge in your business casual was completely.

I heard about it.

I think it's just stuck in that era.

Oh, wow.

It's a good era. I can't lie.

I like that era too.

But this got on is expensive, so you can't tell if he.

That's not what happened. What. What happened was we started talking talk. You know, we guys, we started having a girl talk. And it's like, yo, some. Some ice in here. And Jerome's like, get me out of this.

Like, y'all know this ain't my bag. Get me the out of here with jobs. I'm sorry. Get me. Get me.

So they had, like, ties on and.

No, they were.

Understand what?

The hottest spot.

Okay. So they didn't have no jewelry on.

There weren't no super bad in there.

No, it was some. Some monsters in there. So they look like they work behind a bar. Yes. For.

For lack of monsters are monstars.

Monstars.

Monstars with the asterisk.

Both. Yeah.

So that was it. But so.

So I ain't see a goblin. I didn't. I didn't see.

Joe, Halloween is different than our Halloween.

No, it's probably like the. The beginning of Night of the Living when everybody's Norma got bit.

Yo, you idiot. Yo, before. Before the zombies took over.

Yo, this guy's a idiot.

But long story short, I. I had fun. And then. So my man was in there, and he's like, yo, what we doing after? So was like, yo, pergola. What? So everybody's like, yo, go to Saint. Go to Saint. I've never been to Saint. Saint is some new spot in the city that's Pergola esque. Okay, okay, cool. Go to Saint. We get in the car. It's me. So Mandy got a birthday cake and some other shit. She like, yo, can I put shit in your car? I'm like, yeah. So Mandy rides with me. So my man and his people stay four deep. They go in another car. Boom. We get to the spot, it's packed. Like, it's wall to wall, people. I walk in, 95 or still, I don't know.

No, it was mixed.

So I walk in, my man taps me on the shoulder. I turn around. Who is it? Iman. Good old E. Nat and Rachel. They out gallivanting on the town. They hit a couple different spots. So I'm like, yo, I never been here before. It's packed. We finally can't get a table. I'm about to leave. They say, yo, come back in. We got y'all a table. It's six of us, right? They got us a table for four. So we already on some nine to five Brokey shit. Cause we gotta cramp in on some. You know what I mean? Table for four. Six of us. Yeah, I know. Go ahead, judge.

Boom.

We get down, everybody starts ordering. Order a hookah. We getting food, drinks, whatever the case may be. Mind you, I know Mandy. I know my man. And then I know my man's peoples that I just met. Super fly dope. She was one of the contestants at the paddle of the Sexes, the Other two people I don't know, but they was in my man's car. So I'm gonna welcome them like I welcome my man. Everybody down. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. About an hour goes by, my man hit me with the yo, all right, cool. The bill comes. The bill comes. As the resident male at the table, I'm like, all right, cool. I don't know these motherfuckers, but what.

You mean as the resident males? Other males. Two males.

No, listen, listen, listen. So as the resident male, I'm like, all right. I don't know them, but cool. The two men gonna split the bill down the middle. Sure, right? My man gets up, I get up. I'm like, yo, how you want.

You know what I mean?

You got card, cash? How you want to do it? My man gives me. Yo, who them?

He.

They rolled with him, though.

I said, I don't know them motherfuckers.

Who them?

He like, dog, I don't know them. And I said, me either.

But these are the ones that roll with him.

Yes, they roll with my man. He says he don't know them.

Come on.

His peoples recognize one of the girls, and they was like, yo, where y'all going? Could we come? And they said, yeah. But the girls get to the table. My N A, they ordering up. They espresso martini, and they. One of the girls even took a to go bowl.

Oh, shit.

Oh, y'all was goofy, right?

Wow.

So I'm looking at my man, and I'm like, yo, my nigga. Now my other brain kicks in like, I ain't paying for these bitches.

Mm.

Long story. Less long. My man gives me a 20. Yo, hey, look, he my man, and he not a cheap dude, but I think he might just didn't, you know what I mean, that day. And I end up paying. I paid 80% of the bill. I was furious.

Damn.

So look, I'm dead as I was furious.

How high was the tab support?

It wasn't crazy, but it was the principal.

600. Okay.

But I didn't know them. You get what I'm saying? So my thing was, I don't know y'all. We not conversing with y'all, none of that.

Y'all didn't talk at the table.

Barely. Like, barely.

They were just over there eating. They were too busy eating.

How did they look?

Being thirsty. That's what y'all get.

It's good for you.

I'm happy.

That's for real.

I wasn't being thirsty. They were surprised.

That's all I That's why you want to pay.

Cause what is going on in the world? I'm going to get my shades if y'all keep this up. Audience, we not talking about nothing, but we staying right here for a second.

What? I was on fire.

You still mad at your man, though? Not them.

I'm not.

Yeah, that's how you.

I'm not mad at yourself.

Well, that too, but.

No, go to bed. Go home.

Yo, people go outside.

He was at the arcade.

People go outside.

Don't eat everybody in a hermit crab like you was outside enjoying themselves while they out.

Yo, it's over for that. It's over for enjoying.

Okay, wait. Can I get a call if you got.

It's over for us huddling up at the end of one spot, trying to figure out the next spot. Hold up, let me.

That's not bad.

No, we already clarified that. It wasn't no M4.

It wasn't whack.

They wasn't. Well, they pulled something out. The nine to Fiver Club put them in a. Organized the transport. They organized the transport, man. Need to move the cake. So we've organized this, but. So listen, we know what time it is.

So let me tell you what happened. Me and my man start talking. Mandy done had one too many.

Hey, yo, I know y'all ain't over.

There talking about the bill.

There's some tacky shit.

I said, yo, she's right.

I said, yo, chill. But she right on that.

I said, yo, chill over there, like.

Nine to five, right?

So she like, no, no, no, but we really over there having a conversation like. Like, who are. Don't even know their names, right? If she got long, that's your man. Long story. I paid a bill. We walk outside. I'm walking Mandy to get a cake because she called the Uber. She like, why was you. I said, I don't know them girls. She said, you lying. They ordered. They ordered the most.

Of course they did. They saw.

The funny part of that is. And I said. And I said, dog, this is the. That be talking about. Did they say thank you? Yeah, they did.

How did they exit outside?

That's worth a couple hundred dollars.

Oh, they walked outside.

That's how they exited.

We all walked outside together.

So you didn't say to them, like, who are you? You didn't say that?

No, I. I was too late at that point. It's too late. They already got.

You being mad about it is really the problem.

For real?

Yeah, it is.

You gotta just take.

Take it.

You gotta get at home.

You have no choice but to eat it. What I'm saying is the level of entitlement that, like, ain't reach. Like, they was going fake pay.

You know how girls didn't pay.

I could picture you and your man. I could see you standing there.

Are the girls supposed to come out with you?

No, but they didn't come out with this homeboy car.

Y'all got in the car.

No, but they got into the car.

Make me feel broker than I am.

What's crazy is, like, it looked like it was a carpool situation. Like, can we ride with you going to the next. Not him, the book, his friend.

We don't know you.

That's my point. If there's simply just a carpool situation, why does that now mean. Oh, you're sitting at the table with.

Us because this man was thirsty.

That's why it was dark.

Is that what that was?

I don't think he was trying to. I ain't got to be trying to be thirsty. Hold on. You could be thirsty and not trying to.

That's true.

True.

Really?

Yes.

Yes.

Oh, yeah.

Was it Uber?

His car.

His car.

This sound like, come on story, yo.

But that was crazy. My. Like, I. It just was the level of entitlement that somebody could come out with some strangers and eat hardy and not even.

Real God reach my car.

Yeah.

And you don't know this man. So at my. Me just my ego gonna be like, I'm not letting no strange buy me no food. I'm gonna reach for my money and attempt to pay for my.

Yeah, but you're a dude.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I know what it is. Girls that reach for their wallet like, no, I'mma pay for my. I don't know these n. It's a video that just some. Some. Some chicks on Tick Tock or whatever. Yes, I seen it.

Wait.

And went viral because they was complaining about the dating scene in D.C. talking about some. Yo, we at the bar, we walk in. We looking like something. We got that on. And nobody bought us drinking. All they want to do is stare at us. She was like, talk to us after we bought. After we paid our tab is when the dude started talking to us. And they're complaining about it. Yes.

So pay their dues.

But what I'm saying is to women. Go out with the expectation with no money. Yeah. I don't even need to bring no. Go out with no money.

I mean, well, there was a point in time in which an attractive woman. Hold on.

Because I'm.

No.

Because I'M on the side of these two chicks. Should have definitely said, what is our part in this, Bill? Because who the are you? But there was a point.

Yo, y'all don't need to go outside. What world is. I hate to be that guy.

Y'all sound crazy.

Which part of it is Arcade?

None of it.

If you put the girl in your car and transport it now, you are.

Paying for her date.

You are correct, Yes.

I don't think so at all.

It depends on. He's right.

I would like us to finish that on Patreon.

Done. Okay. Because I. I still have a lot of questions and comments about that situation.

Yeah. And we could play the clip of the other girls from D.C. because it kind of goes into the same.

Well, their clip is four minutes long.

Oh, well, we could get the gist of it and then comment on it.

No. You look cute in your little Target outfit.

This is aloe. Don't even try and play me.

I thought that's. Wait, hold on. I thought that's a rental company.

What?

Alamo.

Alo.

I thought you about say aloe vera. I like your outfit. To him, aloe is target.

Yeah, I'm about to say that's still right, Al. Nice bottom. That's in the middle of Target.

It's.

It's not cheap. It's not cheap.

Target ain't the cheapest.

Target is cheap. How much the outfit cost, Mel?

I mean, the hoodie was like, you.

Buy your own drinks at the bar and then we move on.

Yes. Sometimes I do.

Sometimes anyway.

Sometimes I do.

We got a yay leak.

We have a Kanye west leak.

Okay. I don't know if it's.

I don't know how you call this anymore. It's an Instagram drop.

Oh, that might be a. That's.

That's a new category.

It's not a leak. It's got to be a drop.

Yeah.

Let's hear it.

It's been a long time coming.

Yeah, I cut it off there because I thought it was a. Yeah.

AI.

It's a few things I'm overcoming. Think about it every night and day to try to stay away to keep.

My heart this disp.

I'm sitting here trying to redirect I'm think about it every night and day to try to stay away to keep.

My audience so don't take this disp.

I'm still here in a tractor. It's been a long time coming.

How much longer is this?

It's only a minute 45. And we're 45 through. We don't got to play the whole thing, though. I don't think it's like no deep.

Dive with a deep drop.

No.

Think about it every night and day to try to stay away to keep my eye.

This disrespect I'm seeing redirect. All right.

It's kind of reminded me of the old Kanye. College dropout.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I like it musically.

Have he go back to that.

Yeah.

It don't sound bad. Don't sound bad.

I mean, I'll wait.

I don't love it. I'll wait till it's done. Yeah, same.

Yeah.

She made me want to go turn on Sam Cooke.

Yeah.

Though.

But I do like the war going on between labels and the DSPs. Maybe or artists in the DSPs.

But someone can't be artists meta in the DSPs.

Well, isn't the fact that they're dropping on IG kind of like a. A step into, you know, defiance against these DSPs?

They can't do without the label. So this would be like, it could be label versus DSP or something. And I don't think this is just the artist saying, hey, we gonna do.

Something different over here, whoever it is, versus the dsp. I like it.

Some need to change. I don't think it's a test.

Yeah, they're saying that. They're saying that Glorilla released her album D to C. Really smart. Let me. Let me see. I don't. I think we should be paying more attention to this. I think I also saw ACT say that or somebody say that. Labels were pretty upset about that J. Cole track, not labels. DSPs were upset about how that J. Cole track was released.

I wouldn't be surprised, dog.

I think it's a test. I think it's a test that everybody's seeing how we can circumvent them because they taking the lion's share, the bread.

I would hope so.

Metal's already in partnership with the labels, though. What people aren't talking about enough is the beef that Tim Cook and Zuckerberg have.

Oh, tell me. Spicy. I like this.

Is this a tin foil hat situation?

This is real shit. Okay, so when Zuckerberg got them little curls and shit and then went to that world conference, him and shot the metal.

Fuck his shout.

The metal.

Not at all. Shout out to Alvin Marin, everybody there. That's the next territory that they want to dominate is the music industry. So Daniel Spotify, Zuckerberg, Tim, they all got a little clash of the titans ego shit going on right now. So Zuckerberg has been doing incredibly well. Turned that shit around two years ago. And if everybody's on ig, why and everyone's promoting on my platform. Why not circumvent and move some of y'all over here, give you a little exclusive deal. Universal line some up. Tick Tock dropped the ball to the moon.

Genius.

I was about to say it sounds like the Tick Tock shit all over.

Again, but we're going to play. Y'all not.

Yeah, so it ties into the Google anti trust shit because of YouTube, which I don't think will happen. But if they become publicly traded now, it's gonna be meta versus YouTube. YouTube is gonna be bigger in the TV. I don't know if you saw it. You can like make a real TV series and upload it on YouTube now.

What?

Yeah, yeah. So it's a real battle of who's going to run the music industry in the television industry like in the next decade, huh? You can't count Zuckerberg out, man.

Nah, he fucking be a different type of thinker.

So dropping a fucking ball for the last three years too. Who has Apple?

How so?

You've been re rocking the same phone for.

Oh yeah, they've been doing that for 15 years.

I don't think Apple cares.

They have to.

They don't. Weren't they trying to put their feet in it at one point?

They have to.

Why? Tell me why.

Why do they have to care about the phone?

Oh shit, I'm sorry, go ahead.

Why do they have to care about the phone?

Why do they have to care about anything?

Watch. Time.

Listen.

Time. You guys know that shit's incredibly important. And for the first time in our adult life, Microsoft has become more popular than Apple. People are falling out of love with the phone.

They are.

Huawei has a fucking tri fold phone in 4K. Yeah, give me some innovation.

That's true.

Even the Apple fanboys are like, yo, when are we going to get something new Ice?

I didn't say it, I said it.

I said Apple Vision pro.

I get 33% of all yalls business through the app Store. Why do I care?

But they trying to fight this shit.

That's not enough.

And how long can you do that? It's not going to sustain itself for a decade. I do think they're gonna. You got to come out with a new pony. Yeah, that fight is gonna come. It's already hit. You already took care of it in Europe.

And Tesla may not be the one to do it, but in 2011, metal was supposed to release a Phone for free. They didn't want to do it for whatever reason. Shouts to Chamath coming up with the idea. But let's say if open AI or chat GPT gives you a free smartphone, but I get to get all your data and upload it and improve our algorithms. That's going to hurt the market share.

It'll kill them.

It's a damn.

They could hurt.

I don't want to panic when shit gets rough I want to see Whenever they climb they said they're not going to release a phone annually anymore. Yeah, that's big.

I was thinking that like once we got to the 16, I was like, so is it going to be like every single year? So we're eventually going to get to the number 25.

They said every other year they're going to start release. Releasing the phone. They're gonna stop releasing the phone annually.

Yeah.

So that's gonna. That's a revenue hit.

Yeah. And when so much your revenue is tied to one product. Yeah, it's tough, man. It needs some more innovation. Breaking news.

Glorilla drops her new album Glorious Direct to Consumer and cuts out the DSP middleman, leaving him feeling some type of way.

That from tracks this morning. I mean, it a very smart move.

I mean, artists are starting to realize they don't need a label anymore. I mean a lot of these labels are farming everything out and they're just banks. So why do you need them? I mean, in the DSP thing, I mean, you get lost in the song.

So.

I don't know what he's talking about.

I don't know what he's talking about.

That album is 1000% on the daily physicals were DTC.

That's possible.

Gorilla can't cut the label out.

Yeah, the label signals.

I was wondering what the direct consumer is like. Like a physical album.

It can be a download too. You can do digital.

Rest in peace. Brownsville, ky. Actually, who just passed away. He's been pioneering that for a while.

Yeah.

Rest in peace. Yeah. That was horrible.

It was.

That was a really sad story. Rest in peace Car.

Rest in peace.

Somebody else pass.

I just heard him.

Got it.

That I know off the top of my head.

Got it, got it, got it. I think.

I think everybody just testing it to see what could.

What.

What could stick. You know what I'm saying? We gonna throw shit at the wall. If something stick, then we gonna run with it. I think everybody's really trying to get away from the dsp.

I think everyone should.

In the.

In this world where they're constantly evolving the algorithms and constant. Constantly evolving the pay rates. If you have a method to reach people directly. I'm doing that.

Even if you reach them on a smaller scale, your profit margin could be exponentially higher.

Not even close.

The problem is when a lot of y'all assigned to the label who got the deal with the dsp, that's where the problem falls at. So you got to get some type of leverage to either get out of that deal, rework that deal, something to where now you got some control of your music. Because the label don't give a damn that you not making no money. We cooking over here. You're right.

But even if you don't do it with the label, you're going to pay Meta for the push. Yeah.

If you're making up. But if you're a big enough artist, do you have to. Yes.

Like, if you. Out of you.

I'm just saying, if you Kanye or if you Drake or if you Taylor Swift.

Right.

You go direct to consumer and you sell a million units. If you sell 2 million units and you tell a Swift, I don't know what her deal is, because I've heard her deal is amazing at the label, but I'm just saying you could potentially have the same revenue stream that you did sign with the label.

But look, you.

So he thought we talked out with the Meta situation, like using Instagram and all of that, being that it's on my platform. Oh, you're going to pay me.

Yeah.

You're gonna pay me or they won't pay for this. You're gonna pay me. We'll hide you with a button.

Yeah, that's a fact.

Yeah, it's all above my pay grade.

Although there is a lot of leverage though, actually, if you talk about Taylor Swift or Drake. If they release on Meta, they might not need a cut because we're getting all the data from all the traffic you're going to bring for this one song or whatever. You know, I mean, like before, that might be a loss that Facebook or whoever Meta is willing to take.

I don't think the labels are going to take this line down, though. They're going to come up with something.

Of course.

It's a cat and mouse game. Soon as somebody there's gonna something new come up, they're gonna find a way to infiltrate and take it over. And you just got to keep going. Yeah, I'm happy you got a lot of music.

Yo, me too.

That nasty, that music business.

Absolutely.

I want to enshrine this podcast. I Feel like it's just about to be the culmination of everything this podcast has said since inception.

Absolutely.

Like, you could just predict when shit is about to get bad. I feel for the artists out there. Yeah. Again, I do feel for the artists. Yeah.

It makes it confusing, too. Like, if you don't know where it's going, what am I aiming for? You know what I mean? Like, it's a good point. Where's the money getting made? How do. What do I do?

Like, yo, if you're an artist today, right, do you even know, like, any business, like, if you own a restaurant, you could say, yo, I sold this much jerk chicken. I sold this much oxygen. Like, I know where my revenue streams are coming from. So now I'm gonna put more focus over here. If you are artist, do you even really understand how you get paid? I think they just get a check in the mail or. You know what I mean? Like, do they really understand how it is that they get paid? Meek spoke to it, bro. Forget how you get paid. They don't even know what they selling. As an artist, you get told a number from them, which is crazy.

You did this.

You had this many streams. You don't know.

You.

You don't know what you're doing. I put a song out. I don't know what that song did. All I know is what y'all told me. Y'all told me she could have sold y'all. They just told y'all 20 years later. Don't make no sense.

On purpose by the music industry. Because if I own 30% of Spotify and got Daniel's hands behind his back, now I can take my hands off it and say, it wasn't us, it's them, while I own. That true. While some of the music industry is falling apart.

Crazy.

Sorry. This is interesting. Yeah, it really is. I love it. I love it.

This is. I like. I like the artists out there now that's trying to figure it out. Like, the ones that you can see, it's certain ones out there you can see. That's like, they see it too. And they like, all right, let me. Let me try to get ahead of this and get with the next move. That's the interesting part to me to watch. But the rest of the ones who just are really just being sheep and gotta. Gotta follow whatever's next.

Yeah.

So for.

All right, since y'all in your geeky mature bag, let's get right to TD Bank.

Okay?

TD Bank. Busted. You did it. That's his bank.

That ain't my bank.

You left it. They got you with that. We're open on Sundays.

That is huge.

That work.

That work. They have my business.

America's most convenient bank. Yeah, on Sunday. I bet it is convenient. The mob need to get to the.

Bank on Sunday right after church.

TD bank has accused them of. Not accused.

Not accused.

It's over. They done proving that they have been money laundering. I had to pay what? 3 bill.

$3 billion.

3 billion.

Small fine.

Small.

That's nothing.

That's insane.

No, the crazy part is this the shit that ain't nobody going to jail.

That's the great.

That's a rico, my nigga. You are washing money for the cartel.

Yeah.

You are an active participant in a criminal enterprise.

So who do they pay that 3 bill?

The SEC probably or the government some way shape or form.

Look at you ready to go in there?

Who do I got to aim these cannons at?

Oh, my go. You see how she's changed? Oh, the little aloe outfit.

Gotta keep the peace, yo.

It's the cost of no business. JP Morgan got caught with.

No, they didn't. No, they didn't.

You doing a lot of shadows.

Gotta keep the relationship intact.

They didn't get caught with nothing.

They didn't.

They didn't confess to nothing. They didn't get indicted for nothing. These got convicted and had to pay $3 billion. That's a different ball game than being some alleged accusation.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But most of the banks have. I mean, bank of America there was that whole thing. HSBC there was that whole thing.

If you was the CEO. If you was the CEO of Budden Enterprises and they caught you funneling money for the Mafia, your ass will be under somebody's jail.

Joe Budden is not breaking the law.

I know, I know.

We know.

I'm not doing none of that.

You should me occasionally.

Different rules.

No, I'm not. No, I'm not breaking.

But you get what I'm saying? Like, yo, dog, the CEO don't do no time.

Maybe it happened and it wasn't on his watch.

Somebody's got to take eyes my like, yo, ain't nobody.

Machines did not do this the same.

Way that the music business has eyes. But nobody goes to jail for a lot of the that happens there.

They don't get convicted.

Some of them got convicted four.

This shit different.

This is different.

We're gonna talk. We gonna talk.

No, no, no. I'm just saying. $3 billion a fine. You think nobody go to jail.

That's crazy.

That's nuts to Me B, it's costing no business, man.

You try. It's above our pay grade, but I think that sucks. Me personally.

What sucked more, that nobody went to jail or that them two girls got that shit off on you and you're stupid. Which one are you?

Yeah. I feel like the.

They skim me. You in the club just standing on principle.

Yeah.

Yo, you.

What you mean?

But that's part of my realization about Ish and Imani. I'm glad you said Imani. Was there anywhere that Imani is. I shouldn't go.

That's funny.

Why you say that?

Level, cuz it's that. Yeah, it's that. Like he liked that.

You think TD has done more harm than the music business?

What you said.

Do you think the music business in aggregate has done. I'm not taking up for TD or Sinaloa.

It sounds like it cleared up.

No, I'm saying. No, I don't think. But you got to think about the time limit that the music business has been predatory. That shit has been going on since the 30s.

TD bank, my business.

Yeah. TD. TD bank is relatively new in comparison to that.

Yeah.

But what I'm saying is across the board, when you start talking about justice and legality, if that was anybody else that got caught and admitted to smuggling cartel money. My nigga.

Yeah, someone's doing something.

Somebody going to jail. Is we talking about ain't nobody going to jail? Like, that's just. That's crazy to me. That's all I'm saying. Like, I understand the concept.

Like.

But they usually work out deals for the payout. Right. So you pay us this much and nobody. They usually work shit out like that.

They usually make someone fall on some type of sword.

Yeah.

They said El Chapo, who wasn't even him, had more money than Bill Gates. And Warren Buffett, he wasn't even a top nigga.

Yeah, yeah. Mayo was the real one.

What we talking about?

Yeah.

And it was all in TD Bank.

No, I'm just saying just imagine. No, no. I'm saying just how much. Imagine how much money they were smuggling if they had more money than Warren Buffett and Bill Gates.

He about to go sign up right now. Don't you. You want to go to Mexico, right.

With a 10.

Chapo.

You know what I'm saying? Like, that's just a different type of money. Yo.

What's the. If the cost of business for them to have illegal businesses here?

Sure.

It's trade offs, man.

You ain't gonna do all that crying over there. All that Crying you be doing.

You might. They will knock off them tears. Might get some results.

Yeah.

Oh, that don't happen.

No, it does not.

I'd like to hear about y'all, too, but after I. Cause I. That was. I really wanted to know what was going on with y'all on Sunday. If I wasn't busy, I'd have drove over there to Hoboken.

Did you just stalk the situation? Did you come, sat down?

I'd have sat in, but would you.

Let them know you was there?

Yeah. Okay. No, I'd have been at the table, but I saw enough. I saw enough of them. I saw enough of them. Sunday, Hoboken brunch. Yeah. You go ahead. I'll get the call. I'll get the call.

You know everything that's going on.

Not everything. I'd be the last to know certain things, but once I find out, I do try to be proactive and be of service. Don't get quiet when I say I'm of service. Y'all niggas don't support me enough.

We support.

You are a great mediator.

Thank you.

No, he's not.

Now it seemed like I was fishing for the. Now it seemed like I was begging for the compliment. Right?

He's not a great mediator.

Who ain't a great mediator?

Not you.

You don't believe that?

To squash something?

Yeah, No, I don't think so. For real?

I don't think you're a great mediator. I don't think you put just. I think that you, like, if it's mediation from one to five, that is a mediator. I think you'll be like, four.

Oh, that's good.

No, nigga, it's not.

So one is good.

Five is bad, nigga.

Oh, five is bad. Sorry.

One to ten. I'm sorry. You at nine.

You don't believe that. You pardon right now?

No, I don't think you're a great mediator.

A great.

You could get. When two people arguing, you can get in and make all parties calm down.

Yeah.

No, I don't think so. You don't know what to say. You don't. You don't know what to say. You just be like, yo, hold on. Yo, yo, wait. Yo, wait, hold on. We. You start looking at your head. No, that's not mediation.

What's going on here?

Yeah, what's going on?

That's your favorite.

You should slow down.

That's your favorite. What's going on?

What is happening?

The last time two people was arguing up here, you said, yo, Just don't break my table.

Yeah.

It'S not mediation.

But I'm not mad at, like, a quick scuffle if nothing breaks.

Yeah, that's not mediation.

It's not mediation, though. No. Because I'mma break it up when it get.

It's not mediation.

After we decide who would have won. You got to break it up a little bit.

That's not mediation.

That's Mel. Mel stormed out. I called her. No, you didn't.

No, you did not. Actually, I was trying to say that.

No, not that day.

No. Yeah, two days later we watched him.

Not the next day, definitely.

Oh, but let Mel have done something. I get a call with the mother quick.

We saw your phone go bing, bing, bing, bing.

I was literally like, hello.

Yeah, right on there. I saw your phone doing that. And you looked. And he just looked at me and got mad at me.

I told Mel I was going to call. I'm sorry, audience, but we need our little therapy today. I told Mel I was going to.

Call him in the text while you up here.

Yo, tomorrow I'm going to hit you. Right? And then she said, oh, great, that's awesome, because I'm leaving the dentist to help nine, and then I'm going to the dog vet. So after 3, I should be clear by 3k. I'm beefing with my girl dog. And now Hunger Games time. I love. I love a little. It was a good beef, too. This was gonna last a few days ago. Archive. A few joy. Oh, you want black.

Talk about that?

Using, huh?

No, we both did mutual archive.

Yeah, it was a mutual archive, but ain't nobody cares. So once. Ain't nobody care. I think we made up.

You did that before.

I'll go right on the break. Go back. Something new. Come back.

You ain't doing no archive.

Yeah, archive. You got to hit the archive. Yeah.

So, yeah, archive.

Get rough. You got to go archive the. The good one, too. Your favorite pick of your all.

Yeah.

How many pictures you archive?

Birthday pic, red dress. Archive.

Archive the pics.

Yeah, we archive.

She's so old school. She thought you talking about archived the cassette polar rings. Did you put them away in the closet?

You put the photo album in the show? Oh, man.

Okay, now I get it.

We darker.

No, but you're not a good mediator.

I think.

I think if you.

Oh, but wait. My point was, now that me and my girl is beefing, you get to the back burner.

I was already there.

Ooh, well, get further back.

I know. Yes.

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Good time out there. Okay, Flip and mail. Mail. It's never a day of peace. It's never peaceful. Some of y'all look at this and say, oh, I could just sit there and talk dog.

Yeah, good luck.

Does it take it away?

Come on, Melissa.

I'm clearing out. Y'all go ahead and get your shit off.

We discussed this. Yeah, get your shit up.

Oh, you got a script?

No, but Melissa, ladies first.

Okay.

It's not an age thing neither.

I don't know exactly how much everybody how much they know.

Well, you unfollowed me on Instagram and.

See archive.

You unfollowed Me and somebody posted. That's how I found out. Then it's like, okay, yo, wait.

I just want to know how. Why did people go searching for that? Like, how did they know to go searching for?

And I want to call that out because I feel like you've been doing this long enough to know that people search for that.

You got.

So how would they know at that particular time?

I just went on a whole rant not even two weeks ago saying how you still have to follow people, that you have beef with facts, because people are watching to see if. Then the unfollow has a big thing. So you just was emotional and hit to unfollow on your co worker. I knew nothing about any of this part.

Yeah, that's how I found out.

I'm finding this out.

I was quiet about. I mean, you mentioned that, you know, you threw little jokes out there. And I told her that, like, Joe would say, you can't do the same shit that you did the other day. This is the all dude cast. He was throwing little seeds and stuff. But I. When I went home, they said, yo, Melissa Ford, unfollow queen's flip is what's going on? I said, huh? I went. And she did.

On Twitter and Instagram, Need I remind you that how you interact with your co workers is a huge part of the gig, but go ahead.

Yeah, Melissa Ford.

I mean, I just. Okay, fine. Maybe I was slightly emotional about the situation and I unfollowed you for a second. I followed you back.

No, you didn't.

I think I did.

You're a liar.

Okay, listen, I don't know what I was going through last night, but apparently I'm threatening people, I'm posting definitions. I. A lot was going on. So I think that I followed you back last night.

Got it.

But I just have to check up on myself because that was like. That was.

Tell us what happened, man.

The people you bugged, the out is what happened.

Okay?

You bug. You bugged the fuck out. And I couldn't even look at you because my neck was fucked up. So I just was like, who is this motherfucker talking to?

Okay.

Yes.

And so can you give them some clarity? Because, bug dog, they may think that I was loud and aggressive.

No, on this day, he was not loud. He was not loud. Which was. Made it. Which is what made it even more frightening.

Yes.

Yeah. Because you were quiet.

There go Karen words.

What?

Frightening.

Frightening. But go ahead. You did that shit. And I have had to hear nothing but Karen words from Melissa all week. Described Describing your behavior.

Okay. Well, it has. Insidious.

See? Insidious. Yeah.

That's tough.

Put me in a tough one, man.

Yeah, it was. It felt.

I did.

You talked.

It was very dark. Yeah, it was very dark. Yeah. And your commentary was just. It was not nice.

You.

You were not nice to me.

Yes.

You were not nice.

I know.

And so I packed up and walked the up out of here.

You did.

What do y'all think about men who move off of here?

Say it's a good question.

I think it's a mistake.

Yeah, but not if it fits. That's how I feel.

That's what makes it.

That's.

That's what. That's what hurts.

Some level of clarity we got to confirm.

I move over here, say if it fits me. Like, if. If I hear somebody say something that he said and it fits him, I'm gonna be mad at him. I'm gonna be mad.

Why don't you ask first?

Because. Fit the character of people.

No, because sometimes people can tailor some.

To say, true, true.

You know, I've had people say that I said things, and because it was a. It was sarcastic or whatever, it was kind of intelligent and witty, they were like, oh, I could see Melissa saying that. I'm like. But I didn't.

So I think it's hypocrisy because I wouldn't want anybody to judge me over anything as well. I mean, it's just. It's. It's a thin line because I wouldn't want anybody to say that. I was just complaining about that.

Recently, Flip heard some shit in the.

Street and got his panties in a bunch.

Got all mad, came back, totally barked on Mel.

That's not in barking.

Not in a loud and aggressive way, but totally went off on Mel. Brought up some shit from the pod three weeks ago before he left. Like, niggas, remember what happened three weeks ago? I like, God damn. And then charged his car up on off time at the company building while we discussed it.

That wasn't wrong. I don't think that was wrong when I did the chart and trying to talk to you.

Part of the problem.

This is a show.

It really is.

I mean, this is a show. I mean, it's not until all the homies is like, yo, Flip, you. You shouldn't have did it at the job. If you had a problem with mail, should have pulled it to the side.

I took it to the side.

I. I didn't argue with anybody. I said, I accept it. I mean, especially Michael Paul. Made it worse, cuz he's so sophisticated, and he seems so dis.

You did that in front of company.

Like, what was it?

Yeah.

Sitting right between you guys.

He was like, oh, God. He said, you know, I can't. I can't judge you, but I wouldn't have did. It's just the way he started talking.

It hit my soul.

I said, michael, I understand. He hit my soul a little bit. You. You do things different, Right? So I know when you're upset because you have this look on your face, you start to turn red, but then you try to play it off of the camera. You're good at that. Who, you?

Me? Okay.

Yeah. But every once in a while, you'll give me the look. Like when your phone was going off buzzing with Melissa. I don't know why she would text you during the part, but your shit was going off. You said, you motherfucker. Like, you just. You just. You was human, but you handled it well. And it goes back to the point. Who I think is. Is a better mediator, I would have to say Imani is. Why? Because even during that segment, he was like, yo, flip, you was wrong. You shouldn't have did it like that. I wouldn't have done it like that. And he gets into details to try to break things down in the moment.

Imani is a great mediator.

Yes, Imani is a great. He was like, yo, that was wrong.

I don't aspire to be the level of mediator that Imani is. Just so we're clear. Got it, Got it. Never. You may not want to talk to. Just know. I don't aspire to be that level of.

Corey is a bad mediator. Cause he insults. He insisted. Insults you. Yo, nigga, that was some ass shit.

Fuck out of here.

Call him like, nah, you is emotional. Out of here. That's how Corey talks.

I like that you got all variations of everybody's.

I did.

I mean, every. Because, you know, I know when you like to leave, and no disrespect, you think, like, everybody was on your side.

Oh, that's. That's nice.

They was like, nobody. Nobody. They understood. They understood my frustration, but they were just like, you should have spoke to me.

You had seven hours.

Yeah, I was quiet.

Seven hours to pull me aside outside and say something to me. That was why I wanted to punch you right in your face.

And they just left a petting farm.

For real.

That's what.

The funny part, like kissing goats and shit.

Don't go to the petting farm and be best of friends. Feeding goats and Rabbits. And then come here and do that.

And that's the last thing I know, is that.

Act like this is the petting farm. Like all that friendly Goo Goo Gaga bullshit that y'all was on. Do that here. Don't come here and. Oh, my Lord. Yo, y'all trying to give me high blood pressure. The doctor came here and told y'all my blood pressure.

Yeah.

Well, so anyways, we worked it out over the weekend.

We had.

We had Ian as a mediator, not Ian Dunlap. But you would have been fantastic.

Ian wanted to. Yo, Mel was saying some crazy Ian.

Dunlap wouldn't have been a great me. Yes, he would. Oh, please. He just cool with all ops. And he cool, so you can't say nothing to him.

What ops I'm cool with.

He ain't mediated nothing with none of my ops.

I tried. I've tried.

You don't want to hear nothing publicly and privately.

You know that.

No, it's up for. It's up for life with those failures. Is you talking about. I don't want to mediate nothing. Anyway.

Okay. Anyways. Well, the other Ian. Ian, he mediated.

Yeah. He wanted to laugh at a couple of things Mel was saying, because Mel is funny. When she gets emotional, she starts saying she turns into a white woman. For real? Yeah, it turns into a white woman. But, you know, we. We got through it.

Well, I'm glad y'all. Thank you. Good.

Thank you.

We pieced it up, and, you know.

He said that I will not be getting kicked to the curb. He said that he feels that you guys got some things. You guys are talking about where Ian and Joe feel like I'm trying to get fired.

Paul.

So they said they're not giving into that request. I have to do something violent.

Well, I did say that if I were Joe and Ian, I would make anger management courses mandatory for you.

Yeah.

Yeah. You said they don't hate how white she is.

Does anybody agree with that?

Ian agreed with her. He's white, she's white.

It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. All right. So I'm glad that you guys made up. Yeah.

We need to cast, you know, I.

Mean, everybody, group hug. No.

Okay.

Yeah, Y'all just hug.

Yeah, we're good.

What we did.

Yeah.

Good. There we go.

Good. Daisy was happy to see me, but she tried to keep Daisy away like she wasn't a man. She the type of parent that keeps.

A kid away from you.

Don't go. Don't go to your father till the police Come.

But people were thinking that my. My. My threat was towards you.

I love it.

I thought it was too.

Honestly, I loved it.

We had a conversation. It was great.

So wait, why did you tweet threats, questions?

I don't know. It popped up on my timeline. I just wanted to tweet that.

Okay. You guys. Okay, sir.

Got it.

Want to get into Sam Mitchell, docs and homeboy live on air.

That was fun. Funny, that. Speaking of professionality in the workplace.

Well, homeboy was playing with him. He was. He shouldn't have played with him. Now, I saved this clip 90 million times, so let me find the right one.

It was like three different, you know.

Oh, yeah, see, there we go. There we go. Cause you played with him, yo. Gotta be careful of making inappropriate jokes at work.

True.

Agreed.

Yeah, don't say especially when you on the air, like live.

What that meant? What that mean? Nigga, shut up. You think I make inappropriate jokes at work?

You do too.

You think it too, about y'all. I don't ever think I make a joke that make one of y'all want to hit me. Wait, I'm wrong.

What say?

Yeah, wait, Y'all want to hit me? Wait, wait. A mediator. No money was here. We might need some mediation. You want to hit me?

He was here and he heard that.

Oh, that was close.

Just don't break the tables.

Yeah, Sam Mitchell. I ain't breaking the table. Sam. Sam Mitchell. He shouldn't have made this joke. This is inappropriate to. To make to your co worker live on air, but go ahead. Let me let him get his off.

What do you think about the fact.

That Steve Curtis head coach. Yeah, I saw that. The coaches. The coaches don't get a medals. I guess it just tells you what international how they value coaches. Not at all.

I'm surprised.

How do coaches don't get a gold medal? I'm surprised coaches get a paycheck for this show.

You know, I think, like, maybe you.

Should do this pro bono, my friend. You know, last time I looked at my check, it's pretty close. So, hey, I'm taking donations. Why don't you come up off some of that money you got since you over there bragging about it? Well, I mean, yeah, no. Rent your beach house out down in Florida during the hurricane. Oh, let's talk about it. Or do I need to go on? How about your townhouse over. Over in Buckhead? Hey, what's going on? You want to call me out?

Yeah, let's play. You screaming broke and hungry.

Let's just See it.

I know what you have and where.

You live, young fellas. So you need to see. I think we have snitches on the show today. No, we don't have snitches. We have Sam. Tell us, Mitchell. We have truth. Tell us.

What do you think about.

You're the one who crying poor destitute up here. When do I need to keep going on further more and more? Or do you want me to stop right now? Go to this game. You're gonna stop messing with me on national tv. I done told you about that. See, we talked already. Hey, do I need to give out the address? Cause you're not at home right now.

Look at this.

Look, they cut a game in Seattle. I miss that place. They should all. They should still have an NBA team. I love Seattle. One of the best NBA cities ever. They won a championship. The fact that they do not have a team, I don't understand it. That needs to be an NBA team.

Well, for tonight, they.

You're the in the history of championships.

And now an Olympic gold medal.

North Point Drive, Sandestin, Florida. Huh?

That's crazy.

I think that's your house. No, that's your house. Oh, that's yours.

Why didn't people like that?

All right, that's crazy.

That's insane.

You gotta leave people to alone.

Did he get in trouble for that?

We haven't heard about it.

They calling for him to get fired. They trying to clean it up. People calling for him to get fired?

Yeah, look at the addresses.

Is that his real house?

He said that's his rental property.

Oh, Flip investigates.

There you go.

Hey, what do y'all think about this? I think that dude Chris was completely out of line. I think so when you started.

I think Dachshund is wrong, though.

Dachshund is insane over that little criticism.

Yeah, but look, it depends on that. Might have just been a straw. Yep, because he said, yo, I've asked you time and time again to chill out. Trying to embarrass me playing with what I'm saying. So stop playing.

And also the age difference too.

Like a different level.

Sign of disconnect.

Older don't care. When you older, you don't care.

Yeah, you're not.

You're not some older don't tolerate disrespect.

I don't think homeboy is familiar with Sam Mitchell's game at all.

That part maybe he learned.

I'm not familiar.

Vince Carter.

Oh, he fighting Sam.

Sam Mitchell has a reputation. I don't want to say what the Rep is because I'm unsure, just an.

Old head, hard nosed dude that they don't play that shit. Like you can't say certain shit to some of these old and shit that niggas say today. These young kids say today.

And honestly, if I'm saying Mitchell right, like just listening to the context of what he's saying. I don't know this Chris dude from a hole in the wall, but it sound like he got the bulk of the, the bulk of the budget. And Sam Mitchell did not. So for you to make that joke on air when I was referring to coaches and how they are viewed internationally and how we should be getting paid when we're not. For you to say, I'm surprised they paid you for this show.

He said that?

Yes, that's what he was saying.

That's what, that's what the dudes, the.

Surprise coaches get paid.

You should be doing this program.

You should be doing this for free.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah. He turned up on them.

Yeah, but you can tell. And again, you could tell. Like, yo, I warned you before.

That's the thing.

He didn't just jump out the window.

That old was a young up though. You could tell he never playing with it.

It's not over your dog. When the old start pointing at you, they'd be one step away from throwing that hook. Then start.

Sometimes you, sometimes people, when I guess when you older, you have a lot of. Lot more patience. You could tolerate more. You know, you appreciate the situation that you in or the gig, but you could take but so much old head.

Niggas don't be having the patience. It's the opposite.

And I am against doxing.

Yeah, I think he went too far.

But he wanted to show the nigga, you ain't gonna do nothing. If I put your address out here, you ain't gonna do nothing. He punked him or just stop.

I'm prepared to go where I need to go.

And you're not home right now.

You at work, nigga said you not home.

You said you not home.

That shit a little foul though.

If something happened to his house, then.

Yeah, that's just vile. Who becomes responsible.

But that is, that is real doxing. I think sometimes the definition of doxing be even unclear.

Too loose.

Yeah, right.

Like I didn't even know what that meant.

Doxing is when you put somebody's address out there.

I didn't know.

Job, address, any private information that you make public.

It's a crime though, right? Isn't it a crime?

It's a crime. But I mean, who about to. About to go through all of that? Unless it's to that nature. Yeah, if you put my address out on tv, then yeah, I might. I might follow up on that one. But this other.

It was a live broadcast.

Yeah, okay.

I was wondering why they didn't edit.

What.

What's the station that.

I don't know.

Maybe NBA tv, one of them.

Okay, got it, got it, got it, got it.

Like, because it's going on like a half time of the game. It's like. Like that. So there'll be giving a commentary.

Have any of y'all ever been doxed?

Yes.

No.

What?

I've been doxed. Came to my crib before.

Yes, I know about you getting doxed. You saying.

Yeah, your house.

Other people came to your house? Yeah. How you think they got the address?

I thought they were.

Could follow you and get you.

So they came to your house and did what?

No, and said. Oh, the ish. Really do live.

Strip.

Somebody rang his bell, made him strip.

Get naked right now or else. Who else?

I ended up getting mail sent to my house.

A male stripper or mail like.

Well, okay, maybe a package.

Oh, yeah, you keep getting packages sent places. That's not.

No, that. I don't know that person. My address. My address got out and this guy decided to send me magnums in a dildo.

Mel, stop it.

What.

What year was 2013? 2013 or 2012?

Yeah.

And what did this. What did the note say?

Get ready.

For real.

I see you. What color was black or white?

Ford. I thought that you could use this. Oh, and I was.

He knew you was up tight too.

I was you.

Thoughtful.

It was a big white dildo with magnums.

Oh, he knew you.

Yeah, he knew you even.

That's on brand.

Yeah, it was.

The show that you shot. Was it at that time?

Oh, maybe.

Yeah, maybe she's been famous a long time.

Maybe around that time. But yeah, it was lube, magnums and a dildo. I was just like. I don't really understand the connection with a dildo.

You never know.

I think that's the same.

You can't get burnt from a dildo.

What?

It's got a question.

You kept it.

No, you.

No, you. I kept the. I kept the condom.

You tried him out.

I did not try him out.

You gotta be a sick to try out a deal, though.

It was a little too big, so. No, it was what it was. It was like 14 inches. Anyways.

Okay.

Yeah.

I don't know how to segue. Y'all do that to me quite a bit. Well, you actually.

You've been doxed.

Actually, I haven't. Not to my knowledge, no.

Yeah, yeah, we got.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Fucking. What's Shorty? Yeah. Azalea Banks. It's my girl.

Oh, for real?

It's my girl. Azalea Banks put me in Park's phone number out. Yeah.

Really?

Yeah. And I kept the same number.

Did you have to change the number?

I kept the number. Yo, call me. You.

Wow.

Call me.

Y'all some flop.

Some hotties. Some of them was podcast fans. Like, they wasn't all like. That's why I was like.

It was mostly. Yeah, it's mostly.

Mostly fans. It wasn't. They wasn't attacking. They was bigging me up and somebody was cute. So I kept. How do I know if they texting me? Ish.

He facetimes.

You send me a picture. Y'all think I answer random facetimes?

We've seen you answer random facetimes talking to us.

I don't know what y'all are talking about.

I don't know about.

I don't know what y'all are talking about.

If the conversation start getting good, Joe, I've seen you answer random facetime.

You ain't know who it was.

You put the phone down like this when you answered it to see who it was.

You've done that. I remember those stupid shit.

You gotta put it like. He's like, yo, I don't know who this is.

Hold up. Hello? I'm not doing that on the docks on the docs weekend. I'm probably going to avoid unknown FaceTime. In unrelated news, they saying that RJ Barrett owes a male escort some money. Huh?

The rest of money.

J. Barrett, will you please send me.

The rest of the money you promised.

Me for me in my ass. We can fight to please send me.

The rest of the money you promised.

Me for me in my ass.

Do you guys need a reason now?

The volume was a little low there, but he said, don't worry. It was loud and clear. Thank you, Parks.

Yeah, we heard it.

I don't know if that's true or not. It was just funny.

What did he say?

Said, send me the rest of the money for me in the ass.

Oh, wow.

Straight like that.

Yes. Yeah, that's what he said.

Well, no, that's what he said.

Please don't serve the world that we live in.

I've never been fucked in the ass, but I feel like that's a good time for money to be on the wood.

Yo, pause.

What the hell?

Wow. This is not one of those things. That ain't no.

I owe you on that one.

Yeah, you're not gonna do that. And then I'm asking for mine. Sorry, buddy. I don't know how RJ Barrett got that off, if he indeed got that off. He has not replied to these allegations.

Who's RJ Barrett?

RJ Barrett, the basketball player, went to Duke. He was drafted by the Knicks, third overall in the Ja Morant draft. Now he is in Toronto.

Is he nice? Yeah, he could.

It was Zion, then it was Ja, and then it was RJ Barrett. And I'm not mad at him. Listen, hey, if that's your bag, that's your bag. But pay. Nah, you got. But pay.

I want to ask this question.

Stop shorting the sex workers.

What's up with these niggas not willing to pay? Like, it's like, are you challenging these niggas to come out and talk about your private business? Why y'all just don't pay?

That is true, right?

Unless you feel like if I pay, I'm gonna get exposed. Anyway. Anyway, like, what is the thought if you have a bouncing his balls off your chin? Pay the nigga if you don't want the world to know. For real, Pay him.

Hey, he right.

I mean, when he's right, he's right.

It's very simple.

Simple.

He ain't lying.

But some people don't like to be. I. I seen some of the celebrities, man, they don't pay. They said they take that to court. They take it to court. But I don't know, man.

Your honor, he had my balls on his chin.

Yeah.

And I just feel like RJ Barrett could bag any dude he want. Like, why you gotta pay, homeboy? I don't know.

Well, I mean, is he out?

Same reason why the do it with chicken. The ones that could bag any girl that they want, they pay.

Why?

Because they want to expedite that process.

That's a fact. Get this over and done before.

Yeah, but guys don't talk. Clearly, they do.

What, you don't think gay talk? Straight.

Straight men talk.

Y'all are a knitting circle.

Actually, the is talking more than the girls.

Yes, that's a fact.

You know what's so crazy?

And be more emotional, Joe, When I.

When I. When I was younger, I was. Was in. Around the. They were able to identify the ones that don't talk. Today you can.

That's not true.

Talking back then. Yeah. Yo, dog, I know that. I know that. Won't snitch to the police, like, went to court. Did they time when they're kind of women.

No, I'm talking about the. Were able to identify the women that went to talk. That's what I'm saying now, you know, the women not talk all the time. I'm talking about you are able to identify. Keisha won't talk. I could do whatever I want.

Yeah.

Like today, you can't tell. You think A is solid, man. She screenshots.

Not just that.

That goes into why people always ask that question. Why do the rap or the entertainers with the same couple women hold it down.

Good call back.

Yes, That's a really good point.

That's very good. It's hard to find the real ones.

Rj. Pay up. Yeah, pay that up. Pay up, buddy. It was a bad night in Toronto. Had to order some fucking bussy.

Pay a ticket, man.

Late night bussy, man.

You can't iou.

You can't even use vanish mode no more, nigga. They got the other phone. Vanish mode. Need to come up with something where another device is recording it.

Jim Jones got it.

Oh, for real.

Sneaky link app where you can't record the screen even with another phone.

Okay.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm not that.

I've used it, but I'm not gonna use that.

Yeah, yeah.

I'm not gonna use that. Shout out to capo.

Yo, honestly, the best defense is to just be faithful, y'all. Honestly. Yeah. Or take a break where you don't get caught.

Or have a great rebuttal for every time you get caught.

No, that's.

That's too much work.

Somebody. There's some people in here that have great rebuttals. You can't. I don't want to point no elbows at, but, you know, these niggas got great rebuttals. And I'm pointing my elbows forward, not at. Look this way. Not even. No, not you and not you.

I'm just saying elbows and shit. Funny. I don't know who you are.

I'm just saying. I just feel like. Like this. Some niggas in the world have great rebuttals, and they get their shit off.

Yeah, you stupid. You said on. On. On the break.

Take a break.

Take a break. Go get your off and come back.

Yeah, what about two weeks and come back?

But what about when. That's your plan. But your partner fixes the break earlier than you anticipated, the break gone.

That should be. Then you got us another girl packing.

No.

And you. And you ain't tapping.

Oh, man.

How do they fix the break the worst?

An apology might fix it the worst.

But then how long can that. How can. I don't know. Okay, all right, so. So listen. If you argue with your significant other, right, and you have a plan, like, all right, if this argument go the way I think it's gonna go, I'm going to get my off for the next three weeks. So, look, but then if they apologize and become humble, how long should their apology last?

Well, it's your job to keep up the fight.

Listen to this.

I don't believe that you actually changed.

His time.

Is change behavior, and it's gonna take me a minute to see and assess.

How does it change.

Over each other, by the way?

For real, I look at you. Oh, man. How do you keep the fight up?

You ain't hear this. You didn't hear Toxic before.

Yeah, I don't believe you this time. We've been back and forth for a year. Let's give it some space.

What if they come to the crib? What if they pop up at the job?

I had one pop up at the resort. Had to.

Oh, that's my girl thing, too. All right. I didn't want to.

Javier, come up here, pack these bags real quick.

I think I love when you tell the story. It's like you.

Oh, no. She just said that to me the other day. I'd be trying to go too crazy, though, but I guess, yeah, she gotta be tough. You gotta be tough. You gotta. You gotta be tough. I got two days a piece.

Damn.

Then text game. All right. You can unarchive them joints now. You.

You got two days of peace.

Of peace?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I break up with mine just to get some peace.

I had a good joke.

Been saying, it's cool, some peace. Scared. Yeah. Scared to shoot, blow your brains out. Yeah. That's why you paid for that calamari. And she bought a man home. And y'all stood there at the table to talk about it for a second when the check was there and the waitress looked at y'all and Mandy looked at y'all.

Shorty was gone. The waitress. Mandy was hot. The next morning, Mandy text me, y'all, I can't believe them bitches. I said, duh.

Oh. I text Corey the next morning, yo, I can't believe this. You probably did.

I don't know why, but okay.

I said, I cannot believe it. Hey, do y'all judge people that. Oh, my God.

Come on, let's y'all judge.

The answer is yes already.

Yo, the. That gotta put all Their cards in the. In the thing.

I hate that.

Like, cards in the what?

Where it's like six credit cards in the.

Yeah.

Oh, no, Joe. I'm not cheap, fam. So what's that book?

The wallet?

No, the table. You know I ain't cheating. You know everybody. Me and Flip fight over the bill. Yeah, me and Flip go out. I got it. No, I got it. No, I got it. No, I got it.

I learned that from Eric B, Uncle E and Star. We all went out to eat and I started. I was young, like 2009 or whatever, 10. And I said, yo, who's gonna pay for what? Every. Pull me outside. We don't do that where we from. And I never did that again. We don't do that. We don't ask about paying a bill. If you got it, you got it. If I got it, I got it.

Lesson to learn.

No, that's a real grown man.

Like. He pulled me outside. What's that called that restaurant in Harlem.

Sylvia, stop me.

Sylvia. One fish, two fish.

What?

One fish, two fish.

Was it. It was good, yeah.

What?

Man, how you know all the spots she was outside?

She got a. Oh, you can't.

And pretty. Wait, what?

No, a. A foodie. I ain't going to do that to. Hold on, hold on.

Hey, if you get in trouble at.

Home, I won't go carry.

She got a py.

And pretty.

Which.

Slow down.

Which means that in the 90s and the early 2000. Yes.

Okay, okay.

All right.

I would flip, cuz I was like.

Hold on.

What happened? Oh, yo, you.

Can you sit down?

Sit down, please.

This is an audio broadcast.

He saw the text.

What you did over there.

How does he know how it.

Look, this is nuts.

That's crazy.

What was we talking about? Sorry.

The bill, the bill. One fish, two fish. And Mel being outside.

You paid the bill. That was on a date. Y'all was on a hot date and didn't know it somehow.

But you got to get mad at your man is why. No disrespect to your man. He paid 80%. Not that he went half. If he went half or a little more.

Then even get to the 20% if these are your joints.

I know.

True.

Yeah.

I think that he realized it was ugly when they got in the light. These is tricky.

They wasn't ugly.

These is tr. Cuz there some girls that can pull it off. Yeah, some not.

They pulled it off.

They pulled it off.

They only pulled it off cuz he live on principles. If he was a like me. Hold up.

I Told y'all that principal is ass. And there's some places that you're not supposed to stand on it. Like the club. Joe.

You would have did the same thing, Jo.

You would have paid for that whole.

Joe. Of course, that wouldn't have been. We would have been getting out of there.

Yeah, true.

We not going to debate my principalities right now. I agree, but I'm just not going to play with homeboy like that again. But that's good for H2. Being a little hangout man with his man.

No, but typically, it's my man. He don't do that.

Yeah, that's what he said.

Like, I'm telling you, we go out, he'd be like, yo, I got it.

How do you know if your man.

He'll be like, yo, I got it.

Times and can't do it.

That's a possibility. And if that's the case, then you. You can communicate.

What did he say to you before.

He gave you the bread?

This is my thing. What did he say afterwards?

I don't got it like that right now.

Nah. Cause he'll tell me that.

Oh, yeah.

He'll be like, yo, I ain't got it. So the bill came, he looked at you. You said you ain't know the chicks. What happened? I don't know him either. No, but what did he say? Y'all saw the bill. This too many. We gonna bust it down.

Ian Dunlap is good at math. What's 20% out of 600?

Ish.

$30. I mean, 20%.

$12.

Hold up.

I'm sorry, what? That is what?

600.

100. 20%.

20% of 600.

My apology.

He got offended. His math. My apology.

He got offended.

$12.

Let's see. Let's see. I want to congratulate Chauncey Billups and Vince Carter, basketball hall of fame, along with Doug Collins. Collins, real big news, really deserving crew. So shout out to them.

That's a good dude.

Who else was it? Doug Collins.

Doug Collins as well. Gotcha. Yeah, I wrote this. It's not important at all. I was just shocked that there's a new Madlock and she's a girl.

A woman.

It's Kathy Bates.

Yeah, yeah.

Shout out to my girl, Sky Marshall. She's on that show.

I used to hate mad like as a kid. Man, all the old people used to.

Watch that show he was watching back in the day.

Yeah, I watched Matlock. Religious.

Matlock was Amazon. As you got old.

Been on the Murder, Death, Kill for a long time.

Such a Good show.

I could argue that a lot of these crime shows kind of stole Matlock sauce.

They did.

Really?

In terms of the way he solved.

The way they solve them.

Yeah.

That's the last two minutes.

Hey, he dragging that to the last two minutes. He gonna see the hairpin on the floor connect. Connected to something earlier.

He was wearing an earring. The earring was missing.

I noticed such and such and such. Manlock was ill. I didn't know Manlock is him.

I used to hate it as a kid. My mom used to watch it.

I hated. My grandma used to be watching Murder, She Wrote. Get that out of here. Matlock is on.

You hear the theme song? The song.

Come on. And I thought I was a genius when I told a producer, yo, try to flip this Matlock for me. Yeah, yeah, y'all. Let's see what else is important, unimportant out there. Life Jennings says that he tried to do a tiny desk. Yeah, Tiny Desk says that he is not a big enough act to do tiny desk.

That's not fair.

Where does everybody stand on that?

That's not fair. They've had smaller artists on their buns. Like, I'll bring it up.

I don't.

I don't know off top, because I go to look at him, like, I don't really know who that is.

And.

And, like.

I mean, how many records live Jen had like.

Like in another genre that you just might not have been familiar with. No, that Life Jennings album was amazing album.

Classic album right there.

Hood classic right there. It's right there.

It's right there for sure. Hood, classic, City, and Come on, Joe, Music bug.

Tell me what.

That first Life Jennings album was good.

But I feel.

Nobody calls the classic and I love Life.

No, I said it's right there. I said it's a hood classic that. That first Life Jennings album.

I won't argue that. But classic, I don't know.

It's not a classic.

And maybe the smaller acts that did Tiny Desk, because I'm sure Parks is right about that. Maybe they were relevant current smaller acts.

That may be true.

Like, Life is from my day. Our day.

Or when did they go away for a while.

Life. Yeah, but I don't think he ever returned.

Yeah.

With.

Because he just went on tour or he's on tour currently. But not just that. When did those smaller acts do it? Like what Tiny Desk was then?

And maybe.

No, they're still. I'm not gonna. I don't want to sound like I'm on Nobody, so I'm not Gonna to call their names, but there's a bunch on here that they have 8,000 views. You know what I'm saying? Like, they're not the biggest of artists.

But were they like artists that had something kind of going on at the time?

As someone who keeps tabs on outside of even hip hop or whatever in the music industry, I'm not familiar with a lot of these artists. And some of them I am familiar with. It's like they don't really. I don't know how they got up here. No disrespect.

Got it, got it, got it. I'm on the fence. I'm on both sides of this argument. I do agree. I think Tiny Desk has had smaller and let life come up there. That platform looks like life live band. A guy that could really sing and he's got enough music to where if you're unfamiliar with some of these, maybe you gain some new audience.

So now it could be a situation. I'm sorry to cut you. It could be a situation where it maybe just didn't come out the greatest. And they just use that as an excuse.

You think they taped it? He made it sound like he reached out and.

They turned it down.

Now on the other side, I do think that. I do think that companies reserve the right to run how they feel like running for sure. Or on that side.

They do a great job over there.

Or just evaluate the return.

It's a lot of artists that be trying to come up here. And yeah, I mean, there's no nice way to say it, but no, you're not big enough to come up here. You either gotta be big enough to come up here, which I don't wanna sound like. That's that part of the criteria. So for you gotta be liked or people gotta wanna get. We gotta wanna know. You wanna get to know you liked your song or something like that. But other than that, I'd rather pour into my cast than pour into one of y'all out there. That's just.

Hey, it's one we overlooking too that it could be with life. And not saying this is the case, but he could have piss somebody off.

True.

Because this is a relationship.

This is what it sounds like.

And that's just the excuse that they gave him. But whoever we got a relationship with might not fuck with you. I ain't going front or something.

This don't even sound like how Tiny Desk would turn you down.

Right.

Right. Unless what you saying is kind of accurate. Yeah.

It could be somebody in your team. It could be because you'll have somebody up here based on the relationship. You know what I'm saying? Skane call you or somebody call you.

That you and it gotta be a relationship. And it got. It gotta be some type of relationship. You know, Skane called me the other day about something.

Gotta do it.

That's my man. You know, I love Darling and his wife and Gabby. Let me see, let me see, let me see. What else? What else is important or unimportant? Life, Jennings R Goes out to you. Hopefully you do get that. What else is important or unimportant?

We never talked about it. Kendrick Perkins having his nil deal company and I wanted to get your thoughts on it.

That's amazing.

You say it's amazing.

That's an amazing concept.

All right.

For those who don't know, tell me. You know, the college athletes can now sign a name, image and likeness deals.

Okay.

So Kendrick Perkins is signing. Is starting a company where basically I give you an upfront amount for a piece of your. Was it all time earnings.

Yeah.

Wow.

That's.

Where is he from?

Texas, I think.

He. He was a basketball player.

No, I know who he is. But where is he from?

I have no idea where he's originally from.

That's smart. I mean this.

It depends on what the splits are too.

It depends on the splits. But it's like we saw. We talk label talk sometimes.

Is it in perpetuity, like forever?

That.

That I'm pretty sure to be in. In whatever deal y'all make. So it could be. It might not be.

I don't know for sure.

Well then what's the problem?

This is the thing. Ice before, because we touched on it before, and pre pro and pre pot, they were saying it was kind of predatory. Predatory. I think it just depends on the terms. I think it depends on the actual athlete. Like, I think the money matters. I think that when somebody puts out their money for a product, they're the person that's taking a risk. So if I'm pre paying you for whatever, you could break your leg. I don't get my money back or you cannot produce and I'll get my money back. So I think. I think it's 50.

50.

It's a way to look at it.

As long as there's big money somewhere, someone's going to middleman. It happens everywhere. In every field. Damn near. So it's unsurprising. It's unsurprising. And it's not necessarily predatory. It could be great for the.

It's a case by case basis.

Absolutely.

Whatever you negotiate honestly.

And if he gets some talent that isn't maybe as known, it could be a great. That might be a good idea. Yeah. It really depends.

Like everybody, not Angel Reese, everybody, not Shador Sanders, everybody. You know what I'm saying? There's some smaller cats that might go to some smaller D1s that could use 100 grand, that could use 200 grand. And you could potentially bring an advertising dollar that they would have never gotten. And now because I put them together, like Steve Stout said, Steve Stout says he's taking artists and he's taking the advertising and combining them. Yeah. So I think, you know, has there.

Ever been a player under the radar that end up killing it in the NBA that was under the radar, end up being a star.

People go undrafted and end up being a star.

Yeah. Three years in a row.

Was a second round pick. Yeah.

So that can work.

Same with football.

So it could work out for Kendrick then?

It could.

Yeah, it could. It could.

What do you guys think about Kamala Harris trying to appeal to the black vote, the black male vote?

I think it's smart. Maybe a little bit too late. I think it should have been done a lot earlier. Shout to her.

I mean, this how long, but this.

Is like a very short campaign or whatever the shit is that she had said. So we're not just talking out our ass.

I think, I think what Obama has proved, I think even in the last election, what has been proven is that the black vote is really, it really matters. Like again, until they counted all the votes in the urban Atlanta area, until they counted all the votes in the Philadelphia area, Georgia and Pennsylvania, which are two swing states, were still up in the air. And when they started counting all those votes in the inner city, that shit. One Georgia and one pa. So I think that their teams should be instructing them to appeal to us. All right, I have the policy that they're looking to create says to provide 1 million loans that are fully forgivable, up to 20,000 for Black entrepreneurs and others to start a business. Support education, training and mentorship programs that lead to good paying jobs for black men, including pathways to become teachers. Protect cryptocurrency investments so black men who make them know their money is safe. Launch a national health initiative focused on the illnesses that, excuse me, disproportionately impact black men. Legalize recreational marijuana and create opportunities for black Americans to succeed in this new industry.

I think it should have been lost in August.

So you're saying it's just too late.

To do it now it may be kudos to the White House. Been incredibly gracious to me. Kudos to you.

But when did her campaign officially start?

That's what I was about to ask. I think that she got thrown into the fire and had to scramble to work shit out. And now some of these things are just settling. So now we putting some new initiatives out, I think. When did Biden drop out?

Wasn't it like June or something?

It was the summer. No, I'm just saying it was the summer.

So I don't know.

It was late. It was late.

So I don't know.

She didn't have enough time.

Yeah. They was gathering their thoughts, basically. And Biden dropped out July 21st.

Yeah.

So I think it should have been launched in August because the women demographic she had on like that day that they made him step down. Sororities went crazy in raising.

Yeah. The women.

So the black male voters needed. And because a lot of men are leaning towards Trump.

A lot of black men are leaning towards Trump.

I think this should have been attacked a lot. Really good though.

Do you think maybe they didn't count for that? Like just out the rip, they thought.

They probably thought they were going to have a black male vote.

They was going to sweep the black belt, period. I agree with that.

Yeah.

What you think?

I hope it works.

Yeah, me too.

I'm not paying any mind because my vote is already made.

How did black men vote in the last two elections? The Trump, the one that Trump won and then Biden.

A lot of men silently voted for Trump.

A lot of black men voted for Trump. And now in the polls, black men are leaning heavily Trump. I mean, not, probably not the majority, but he's a good portion. He's getting a nice portion of the black male vote per the polls. And I know friends of mine, like, I argue with one of my niggas damn near weekly. He did seven years in jail. He just came home. He been home not even a year. And when I tell you he is pro Trump on a different level. Yeah, it's a different level. So, you know, I mean, I mean hood dudes, they really with Trump. So it's going to be interesting to.

See how race is going to be a lot tighter than we initially thought to. It's going to come down to, I.

Mean, your mom, your mind made up.

Yeah.

I won't ask. I feel like it's invasive.

I support.

And you got a few more months of trying to get that Trump money or the other side's money.

No, no, I got a Question. I got a question for you, too.

Hold on. Just.

Just to answer your question from 2020, this says most black men supported Biden, but overall, Democrats have noticed that they've been losing black male support since 2008. Yeah. So it's been dwindling. So, yeah, they.

They kind of should have looked at some point.

Yeah, go ahead, Flippy.

Question. I had a question for you. Stay out y business over there in the. That world that you in. What is it called?

Finance.

World finance. Financial literacy. Oh, whatever. I'm sorry. I do investing. You do what?

Investing.

Investing. How do you deal with the attacks that some of your counterparts you know, get? How do you deal with it? Because you seem like a nice guy, very humble, and very knowledgeable. And when you see these things in the attacks, do you feel like you become involved in it? Are you involved? Do they group you up in it, or you just.

Yeah, sometimes I get lumped in. But the thing that I always try and tell people is, like, if you're consistently hearing the same message, there's truth in it. So even when. If a bunch of attacks come, I'll get on the phone with some of them content creators and say, well, what should we do different? He got the clipping me up. Eat and Dunlap. Hey, what you think we need to do? Because a lot of times the truth is they want to be friends, too. So if I can get the consult. To me, a hater is the best consultant you can ever hire. Okay, I got a document 40 pages long. Every criticism of me.

Really? Who compiled that?

Me, him, that nigga. That niggas a meticulous.

I do know that. But he also has a team, so just.

Yeah.

So if you're. If you're loving and enough to tell me what I'm doing wrong, I'mma jot that down. And thank you. So I'll be more humble, more gracious, more kind.

What you guys think of that? No, that. What do all of you think of that? His approach. All of y'all, each and every one of y'all, not you icing parts. What do you all think of that?

That he writes it down?

Anything.

I think it's a crock of you've.

Seen me do it.

It's not a trick question.

I just want to know why not ask.

He just smooth answering questions. How much get you better than it?

Because they're not Iceland parks, ain't y'all three?

Whatever that means.

Yeah.

I mean, of course it frustrating.

That's what I'm saying.

Like, if you're here for a year. There's some truth somewhere that you need to fix.

But what I'm saying is that if. If. Say, if people that you're associated with is being accused of something and you're looped up into that, do you look internally or you just writing down on how to.

No, I got a vet, too. I got a man. My main connector meta got locked up. That was my friend.

Okay.

They tried to loop me in and say I knew what some of the bullshit he was doing. I'm like, I'm rich. I ain't know nothing about that bullshit he was doing.

Okay, Got it. So you. Okay, Got it.

But I gotta face it. Opposed to running from it and be.

Like, so you face it?

Yeah, you gotta face your shit head on. Gotta face it.

You don't become an Uber driver and stuff like that. Do things different. You go straight into it. Nah, my fault.

Like Cesar Pinna. You gotta look Joe Lee like Cesar pina.

Why did you single me Ish and Melissa and say we different? Because you have an angle there. But I didn't catch it.

I don't have an angle. I just believe how y'all three react to criticism is different than how me, Ice, and Parks react to criticism. It wasn't deep.

I think you like it, though.

I know you do.

Yeah. I mean, I think.

I know you think that, but you don't.

Does anybody agree with me? Do you think that Joe likes that?

Likes the criticism? Yeah, I don't think like the criticism. I don't think he like the criticism.

I just.

I think he knows how to handle it. Well, everybody's not him.

He hates it, actually.

I think Joe. I put him. Joe sees the bigger picture, and as long as the bigger picture and the engine is still moving, and I take that as it comes into territory. It's part of the gig.

And some people are able to disconnect easier than others. Like Ice. Ice will just disconnect. That's something that he. That he is Parks. You don't really pay attention to the Internet.

I do, but.

Yeah, but you pay attention to that.

I'm on the Internet all day. I just don't let it affect me.

You disconnect. You don't let that you.

I don't, but I've Learned to.

And dog 20 years.

That's what I'm saying.

Yes. I've learned to appreciate how everybody handles things differently and in their own way. So I don't say it.

Not malicious to judge.

I got it. I say it just because it's Something to be mindful of.

But you came up here and said that we should have a character to put out to the audience. Right? But then if we have a character, how will we be able to show our real self? People connect with authenticity. They like when you. Your real self. So if we put a character there, like, that's what. That's what my problem is, is the character and the me and the real me, so that I can speak from personal experience. My character that I'm putting up there and then me in real life, that shit is not easy.

They totally different people, you know, I.

Mean, when people approach you in the street and approach you expect your character, it's not easy to deal with. So then what do you say to that? My father said, yo, you signed up for it. You have to be you. You signed up for this. You wanted this. You have to know how to navigate.

Through wise words from a decent man. I couldn't agree with your father.

That's what he said to me. Like, you can't get mad at people.

What Flip does. I agree with that. In Flip's case, because he created that character. Sure, he created that character. You put that character out there. You benefited from that character.

I did.

So now you can't now turn around. Sometimes you got to take everything that comes with that character that you put out there.

But sometimes they character's not just the character's more of a Persona. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't have a character. I don't have a character like what he's created. I have more of a Persona that I've created, you know, in terms of, you know, just being poised and composed and sexy and whatever all that other shit is. But when I'm in, say, I don't know, baggage claim, and I just got a phone call that, you know, a loved one has cancer. I don't want to be who you think I am at that very moment. So those are the. Those are the navigational kind of, you know, moments where it just. It is extraordinarily complicated.

That's an extreme. But just.

That was.

But, I mean, but. But. But that happens frequently. And that's why so many celebrities will be like, you know, they get approached by somebody who they want you to be, who they believe you to be in that moment. And when you just have a. When you just got bad news or you're having a bad day and you don't react the way that they hope, then they get online and they're like, yo, I met so. And so they're a piece of. And blah, blah, blah. And that's when you say the whole. You signed up for it. I'm just like, nah, I'm still. You're still a human being at the end of the day. And it needs to be a little bit more respect paid to the fact.

But don't we have to be human?

Not Macaulay Coke. What's the guy that passed away? The short guy recently? No, he passed away a long time ago.

Corey Feldman, the one.

What you talking about, Willis? Oh, Gary Coleman, you know, I mean, to be identified as that character, a character that he's built over the years. To be identified as that when he just wanted to live his life. Look, look what it did to him. Like these things that happen where I. I'm just saying.

No, are you comparing you Mel and ish to Gary Coleman?

No, I'm not.

No.

I think that you so rude. Why are you so rude?

Am I in the.

No, in all reality. The thing is when we speak about male. Male flip might be a little bit because of my size. Oh, that's racist.

You do look like Webster might be Webster.

Yo, you gonna let him say that?

I got a spam.

Like.

Like Mel. Mel has a. Mel has a. So you call it a Persona where her professional. Male professionalism, how she speaks and puts it. I think it's a character on. On the podcast or on her shows that I may have watched. It's not the same how Mel is behind the scenes. Mel is not that sophisticated behind the scenes.

Mel on some lies and treachery will get you.

No, Joe, keep it real, man. You not that sophisticated behind the scenes. You don't use none of those big ass words.

I might be a little gangster.

Yeah, you're not. Well, not gangster, but you're not that. You're not that.

Shut up.

I think we should all be mindful of the energy and Personas that we put out.

True.

Even for me when I was going through. And I'll call you like, yo, wow, let's see. Like some of us. You said it like, yo, some of us. You. All these people not attacking you because you an angel. And then you learn how to be softer, more gracious with people and a lot of that go away.

I think it's kind of unfair coming from Joe though.

And I'm.

Because he has so many experiences. Experience in so many years. Like he fought through it. That's just how I feel. I know he don't like to hear that.

It's a Crocker.

I think What I said stands. I think that you just look at it like, yo, the gig is the gig.

He was at the beginning. Remember what you went through. Half the people didn't go through what you experienced. Half the people ain't go through at the tv. And all that going down, bouncing up ain't experienced that. Your wounds. Your wounds made you who you are today. So imagine you. You took all the wounds for everybody and coming in fresh, and then we going through what you've been through. You know how to navigate through the battlefield. A lot of niggas don't know how to navigate through the battlefield. That's just what it is. And then you put this.

Not.

I don't say. I want to say expectation, but you say, yo, you guys should do it like this and do it like that. And I do agree with you, because when you say it, it makes sense, but it's not as easy as you say it is. Oh, how'd you make it seem and see?

And now to my. The way I treat it, I have experience because I've been on the other side of it.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Where you were a troll.

Yeah, yeah.

That's really it for me because I've been on the other side of it. I can identify these people.

Yeah.

So I know one. Y'all don't mean the y'all saying, which is why when you're out and you run into people, it's all love.

It's all love.

Yep.

True.

Like you just said, your haters, once you reach out to them. Yeah, they do what I tell you all the time. They just want acknowledgment. They just went, hey, look at me now. Unfortunately, I say this, I feel like. I feel like a broken record. Negativity stands out more.

It does, absolutely.

Y'all can sit there and read the comments and read this, and it'll be a thousand people praising you. You don't even see it. But once that one person is on your ass, you see that they know. And then you reply to that. They know you reply to that. So it feeds them. So it says, okay, let's stay on his ass so we can get replies.

That's what I'm about to say. Like. And you show people to me anyway. What grinds your gears? Yeah, the people that enjoy grinding gears. It's coming to grind your gears. I'm one of those. I enjoy a little gear grinding, pause. So if I see that, that piss you off? I used to have the same fight with my. My girl. Yo, check that. Well, why didn't you gonna know that this is a checkable offense? Yeah.

Your response is legendary.

Yeah, that's good.

You got to get that off. He's right.

That's true, though I ain't saying works.

With her, but that's my thinking. If I let the girl know that this is grinding your gear, you who I care about. Of course, not her who I don't.

I agree with you, then.

Now we've allowed somebody who don't matter, and it's inconsequential.

What's the difference between that and, like, establishing a boundary and a boundary.

With strangers.

Yeah, yeah, they don't.

We see that. That I was just.

Yeah, boundary with strangers, like, don't get.

How do you enforce that with a stranger?

In the moment of your interaction, you let them know I'm not the 1, 2, or 3.

So what is. Okay, so all they're gonna do. So let's play that out. What does that say to the thousand people that just watched you do it that just want to. Want to reply from you? What does that say to them who wouldn't get attention, who would never normally get the reply? But because you just told them I'm not 1, 2, or 3, what does that tell them? Okay, the way to get her to reply is to do what?

Yep.

Well, that's true. Historically, I have always turned the other cheek. I have taken the high road so many times, I get nosebleeds, so that's usually my MO. I just kind of got a little fed up with that, so hence spicy Mel has been around for a little.

While, and I ain't gonna hold you speaking for me. I'm not shooting at nobody here. I'm not shooting. None of y'all even know we talking about this now. I don't forgot the shot. Anyway. Fuck was I about to say? No, I wasn't shooting a joke. Oh, podcasters in general that complain about this type shit. To me, it just sound like when the spoiled, rich, white kid in school is fucking complaining about some shit. I was just saying when y'all was outside. I've tried to think of a simpler gig than this.

Yeah, I can't.

Like, if you. Not. Not you. If people. If people can't deal with what comes along with podcasting. This new boom that happened to come about where people. We privileged enough.

Blessing.

We privileged and blessed enough to work somewhere twice a week, not counting anybody's side G gigs. Everybody got side gigs. The weird economy is everybody needs side gigs. That's true. But I think this is a pretty Good gig. So it's like the people that's. Oh, they out there complaining. They called me this. They said this about me. It's like. Yeah, but are we just totally discounting the blessings?

True.

And the more words.

Are we moving the blessings to the side?

And it goes back to what I said about focusing on how negativity just standing out more. You're not even looking at all the positive shit because you focus on a little bit of negativity.

My life has changed too much, too drastically.

Yeah.

Quickly. For me to worry about what Becky453 thinks about things more the words of.

Tyler the creator, Rich Log out.

Nor are there many people that they've said worse things about than me.

Yeah, yeah.

For you.

Yeah. Like develop a fucking thick skin. Put the fucking phone down. Ignore them niggas. I'm going back to my normal life. Flip, you be outside, so. And y'all be outside, so. I can't speak to that. Because if it takes me locking myself in a room, I will.

I understand what you said.

What it takes me locking myself in a bathroom or closet. If my problem is outside, then I will. I have committed life to this thing.

But that's the thing, Joe. The problem is not outside. Because once again, when you see people outside, they cool as hell.

Love. They buying you drinks and water, sending you charcuterie boards.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

It's too much love to even focus on the head.

I'm gonna ask you a question, and if you.

I got you. And if you talking to a large enough audience, then you're gonna get some hate.

It comes with it.

Like, I'm. I'm prepared. I'm prepared for that. Like, it kind of fuels me. Pardon me. A little bit.

What do you think you're gonna be. You're gonna be honest and ask you this question?

I gotta get a question first. I want to reserve the right to lie.

So listen. So this is where the confusion comes. This is where the confusion come from, even when it comes to you. Right. So I can speak for me and you, like, if you engage and I told you. Well, I say it sometimes. Engage with people that are saying things about the gig or me. Right. And aren't you giving them credence to keep going? Like, because you are the head of the crop. Right. So you the head of the ship. You're engaging people. Yo, we don't like Flip. Flip is doing this. That nigga's annoying. You're not saying anything, but you're there. You're Listening.

I'm present.

You're present. You're not saying anything.

And I've recently learned that y'all don't like that.

Yeah, well, I didn't. But now I don't give a. Cause I get it.

I've recently learned.

I understand. I understand it because I understand it now. You know what I mean? That's like the same thing when I was doing interviews in fifth. Probably didn't like me sitting with Smurf or talking to his son. Even though I'm defending fifth. He's saying, like, why would you even sit there in the first place knowing that I'm going through this? It's just a. I guess I don't know if it's an old school mentality thing. I don't know. But even with you, like, if you sitting there talking and they feel comfortable, wouldn't that give them more ammunition to keep going? Joe. Joe was with us. Joe listened to us say it. So let us keep saying it. So then.

But look at it like this, and it may still hurt. But when McMahon was selling Austin vs Cena or Austin vs Rock, he'll listen to them say, Austin sucks. But WrestleMania, you're right. Still, fucking draw like crazy.

That example was brought to me, too. But that example was brought to me too. Yeah, like, you got to look at it as Joe. As Vince McMahon. Not personally, but, like, you know, Joe. Yeah, I had to clear that. But it gives the audience, like. We speak to Joe about it. Who the are you? We speak to your. Your boss.

Yeah.

We don't give a. How you feel or nothing. So we're gonna tell them how we feel, we're gonna say it, and we're gonna go a little further.

Yeah.

Because we, you know, sometimes the boss give people ammunition unintentionally. So what do you say to that? When I say that? Like, even if we don't. Even if I don't like that, what do you say your intent is? What do I say what your intent is? Like, what do you say about that? How it comes off to people that it matters to you?

Well, listening to how you feel about it or how you felt about it.

I felt.

Yeah.

I don't feel.

And I know Ish made mention of it before. Mel feel like she wanna make mention of it, but don't. I don't know. But I receive. I receive. How y'all feel about it? I don't give a fuck.

Yeah.

I don't give a. About it.

Should you give a.

No.

Why?

Not at all. I shouldn't give A why?

And for her, if we're talking about.

It's a full circle moment. Right. There's a lot of great research in criticism. You started with that.

Yep.

You started with that.

Yeah.

If you on a stage, if you on a public stage. And again, we starting with all the blessings. I'm starting with the blessings.

Facts.

Same. If you want a public stage that has afforded you those blessings, then you should feel good enough to be able to hold it down when the other side starts coming. Yeah, I feel like that. One, two. Engagement is engagement. It don't say good. Good engagement. It don't say praise, compliment, complimentary. Engagement is engagement. You're talking to somebody that through the down years of his career, my engagement has always been better than the A level in premiere acts. Because I'm there. Just because I'm there, I don't have to be talking about nothing. Oh, he did. It's like when I'm in the strip club on a Thursday night and one of the in the project say, yo, you here. Yo, yo. You know, I. You know, I respect you. My. You just did it right here with us. Yo.

By yourself.

Yeah. It's as simple as that for me. So engagement is engagement. I know what people are paying for engagement.

You're right.

Yeah. I see it and I know how much it costs.

Yeah.

Right. Yeah. So I'm not. Nobody is going to trick me into thinking that the blessings are a negative.

Yeah.

And even if they come in a bad shape box or bad built, damaged box, it is all a blessing. Listen, who the fuck is anybody here for people to be talking about, myself included. Now, I've done enough for however many years or I gave them enough to talk about, but in the grand scheme of things, everybody's insignificant. Yo, who the fuck are y'all? Who the fuck am I? They talking great. Yeah.

Awesome worry when they not big facts.

Yeah.

That's when you worry.

It could go another way. I'm looking at all the podcasters that died for the engagement and look at the. They going. They going and secretly trying to hire the people that's engaging in all. Like dog. Like dog.

True.

I don't take none of it for granted. I want to respect everybody's feelings on the matter because everybody don't have to handle the same.

Yeah.

But I don't take none of the blessing for granted. They come with this.

Yeah.

I don't. And that includes some of them I don't want to talk to. If they saying something I don't want to hear, I remove myself.

Yeah.

I'm back to the A it. Yeah, that's it. Hey, if I go in the club, hey, at the paddle the sexes home girl from death. Yada, yada, yada, yada, yada. Guess what? I ain't mad at her. Sweet girl, sweet girl. I'm going, y. I'm going. She ain't do nothing wrong.

Stay there and still do whatever you want to do.

She looked to the side, got excite. Great. I'm gonna go. Yep. Last week in my estate, whatever that was I was doing. I'm in the city at a time I ain't normally in nine to five hours. It's noon or some. I'm walking downstairs. I'm on, like, Wall Street, Soho, One of them shits not so, but one of them shits down there. Where is working Go downstairs. That I don't be on, but I go downstairs for a little smoke break. And I'm sitting there, it's in. And Keeb and a girl walked by, and she didn't say, hey, you know, you look like Joe Budden. That don't never work with me. Hey. And I get that all the time. She kept walking, but she was puzzled the whole way down. I know that she was on the phone. I think, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then some more people came. Yo, you Joe Budden? Take a picture. There's some more people came now. It's like a crowd. You would think Pump it Up is at its peak. The way that these people is over here crowding. They done followed me in the building. They trying to guess what floor I'm you going to.

Seven. Ain't you that way? Anybody over there going seven? What you talking about up there? Hey, that's invasive. That's intrusive. I'm sitting there. I tapped in. I said, hey, that prospect shit must be working. That little commercial. I feel like people. That was a lot just now.

You've been all over.

That's not. That's not for me. I hate all of that. I am an introvert, but leave me alone. I don't want to talk to nobody. Most of my fans sometimes respect it, but in the event that they don't, I'm grateful for the ruckus.

I'm grateful for the ruckus.

I just made some girl date. You telling a man on the phone, knowing that, like it's nothing for me to complain about. There's nothing for me to complain about.

So, yeah, she lose the fan base for real. Go crazy. Adam, if you need help, Adam. Some friends in Chicago.

Adam is jumping in the coffin. He jumping in the coffin, lowering it himself. It's over.

You know, you one of my favorite whites ever.

But yeah, Adam, I with you too.

But it's over. My. You. You.

I love Adam.

Your rain on the top is short. Like leprechauns. There are people in a room somewhere. You know, Hope said on whatever DVD that was, there's a nigga right now eating a bowl of cereal.

Right. To some shit beating on the table.

That's the same thing here.

That's true.

So every second that y'all or y'all or anybody dedicates to something else, there's somebody eating a bowl of cereal that's just sharpening a sword, trying to get better and trying to come take your fucking. Trying to come take your spot. I don't have time to talk about what these niggas on the Internet think about me. They think I'm a piece of. Now watch this. Yep. Now watch me get to it as a piece of quote unquote.

And. And they gonna keep watching you.

Big facts.

That's what I'm saying. Most of them hate, even at Joe Button TV community. Now all the haters done got me now. All of everybody that hates me is in there. I'm so appreciative. Yeah. Run it up there somewhere for people that hate me to centralize and talk about. And talk about you and talk facts. And they talk about everything. Everything. As annoying as that be, sometimes they try to get to it. Yo, I think Joe's about to fire Melissa. He sent her home. Oh, my God. She was belligerent. Joe's not gonna run his business like that. That little be annoying. Guess what? Love it.

Still gotta listen.

Absolutely love it.

And if you producing the show, give.

You some little bullet points for absolutely love it. Rats. Rapid fan base. Rabid fan base.

Yeah. Out there, it's people that would pay, people that do.

And you know the other part?

You can't put a number on it to try to get that level of engagement that that community has.

There's people that would pay for the hate.

You're right. The other part is I'm always view it differently, at least in this infrastructure, because I was here from the day one.

Yeah.

Yeah.

When none of that exists.

But is it.

Stepping right now? I'm just saying, when you there from day one and there's nothing and there's no money, there's no company giving money, nobody's thinking about y'all podcasts or whatever the fuck y'all doing, and you trying to grow 10,000 listeners to 20 and 20 to 40 and 40 to 60 and so on and so on. And then still gotta wait for people to come give you some money. Then to come, companies change their mind. Want to give all the white people in the TV shows the money. This is all. So when you're there for every step of the way.

Yeah.

You can't take none of it for granted. Like I used to tell them about Tour Savon and them shout out to Savon. By the time save on start coming on tour, it was four season hotels. It was big, big, big sprinters. The luxury sprinters. If you know something about sprinters, they don't all cost the same. We got the one with the phone chargers.

Yeah.

We got the one with the USB. USBs by every seat. Yeah. TV's a good driver. Not one of them bums that's on the. Hey, sexy paneling on the floors. It was different by the time he came around.

Good drivers.

We were the drivers before in a suburban somewhere, bro. Suburban. You know how I feel going to pick up the second half of 2500. Like, what the complain about I'm on a video somewhere about to beat up a promoter from Bermuda that was over here because he owed slaughterhouse money over here. Then booked us again over here. Now we fighting at an airport. It's like your dog. If you. If you was there. I gotta say nothing's there. Word up. The mix on ols 3 drunk drunk off of Becks coming down. Coming. Yeah. For real. Parks ain't give a parks Come downstairs mad L. We in the van, not the truck, man. T. Go get this white boy upstairs, man.

We gotta go.

We have to do what the he want to do.

Like.

When you come from the humble beginnings, even though I started out this part talking shit about anonymous vibrant. But when you come from the humble beginnings.

Yeah.

There is nothing to not appreciate. There is nothing about this to not appreciate. It's almost disrespectful to not appreciate it. Work. That's how I feel about it.

Yeah.

Like so all these.

Do you. Do you feel.

Don't get me started.

Do you feel like it's panic mode? Meaning that you watch podcasts or people, companies that were up and that probably didn't appreciate everything and they end up going down. Do you feel like. Do you go in. In. I don't want to say panic mode, but going to a defensive mode where you like. I'm not going to let this go. I'm not going to let this fall.

Paranoid.

I'm going to. I'M going to do you.

Yeah.

Does it come from a place of paranoia? I'm not going to let this fall. I'm not going to let the company go under. If I have to sit here with park for myself, if I have to put a camera in front of me, I'm going to do whatever it takes to make this keep rising. That's why I want to hear all the critiques and comments from the people. Do you feel like that you come from that standpoint?

The people is. That's an aside.

Fuck the people. But even in general how you do your business.

I've dedicated my life to the gig. Yeah, I've dedicated.

What's the difference between Panic and dedication?

Doing it on the, you know, when I. You know, when I panic. I understand your question. Thank you.

I'm sorry.

My, my. The panic set in when I. Me and Ian was just talking about this at the bar last night. Yeah, we was just talking about this. Panic set in when I was relying on the company to pay me my worth at the end of the contract.

Ah, I got it. Okay.

Yeah.

Gotcha. That feeling never sat right with me anywhere. It was unsettling for me. It feels like standing before the judge and waiting to see what the verdict. You just powerless. Like you could be the best thing on earth or the worst thing on earth. What they come back and say is where it is. And now if they don't say what you want them to say, now you have to go out in the world and. And prove it and do it. See, that's what I mean by get my life to the gig. There's nothing that a company could tell me because I gave my life to the gig already. So when I leave you, I'm going to do exactly what I said. When I leave you, I'm your competitor. Yeah, when I leave you, I'm your competitor. So how we working this out? So when that panic set in, I want to make sure I never stand.

Before this judge again.

I want to make sure I never feel this.

Nobody had that.

That power over me again.

Again. Yep. And if I really believe that this is where the business is going, if I believe in it, then it's time to stand. Stand in that I'm gonna commit standing that. Yeah. So panic birthed D2C straight to them niggas. No middleman. Subscription only, premium model. Like what? That's my point today. Because I panicked back then. There's absolutely nothing to panic about today. And I hate telling people that because I love when the engagement says Joe should panic. Yeah, Joe should panic right now. Oh, my God. What is Flip going to do? Well, it's not the same. Oh, my God. My lose man. Oh, is your numbers looking a little funny up there? Oh, this might be the fall of Joe. Joe's coming down. This been on top too long. It's a crowd of people that just wait on me to fall.

That's.

That's a fact. I like that. Yeah.

Give you motivation to keep going.

Wait. Yeah, y'all waiting on me.

You know what I took to get here, dog?

Yeah. Yeah. No, it's too precious. It's too precious. It's too precious. I feel you. I'm never turning back. I'm never turning back.

I'm appreciative of life in the back of the Tahoe. So how am I not going to.

Be appreciative until Corey fell asleep driving?

Well, he was always asleep driving. He was on autopilot.

Yeah. No, there's nothing that the fans could tell me. The tax. My tax. Wealth management people told me the second that I no longer earn the way they think I'm gonna earn, I'm on the hook and have to pay for whatever the fuck I said. Wait, what? Yeah, it's like, you good man. Just keep earning.

Model of life.

I said, so you gotta. So it costs money to have money?

Yes.

And the second you don't, you'll need money.

Yeah.

They say, yeah. I said, you know, I'm out of here. I'm leaving. I'm leaving. Gotta get to work.

It was in life.

But when you. No, because I knew it already because they had taught me that. But to bring it back to the point, what the fans are saying is not. Yeah, it's not even time for that. It's estate planning. Who's going to be where? What's going on when I plan. Yeah, what's going on? What does my portfolio look like and why it ain't looking like I want it to look. We'll get to that in the video. Help me out. Yeah, my little Microsoft. I need a little bit help. But yeah, assets. I. It's about the real now at 44 like these.

These even in the space and business, you got to stay paranoid to prosper. Like at one point, intel had the control of the chip market and lost it to Nvidia.

Lost it.

They did. That is true.

The White House gave them a bill, gave them billions. No one wants to touch Intel. It's over with it. AMD first TSM second AMD far third. You have to stay paranoid and you gotta listen. I'll call LaRusso once a week.

What?

I need to do better. I hate when I see that little black screen in my Facebook. Yo, what you think you should consider? Okay, cool.

Who do you call?

LaRusso. You know, I'll call him once a week, get some intel. Oh, yeah.

Is that an op to you?

Yeah, he opps to everybody technically. But thank you for all your guidance and support.

Yo, this nigga here, boy.

Hey, Mom, I don't know who that.

The lawyer. The shit that I see on the billboard, you know? Huh?

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Okay.

Yeah. I've learned not to advertise on the broadcast.

That's why Parks is writing that down.

Life is too good for me to have ops out there. I'm not. I'm not gonna lie to you. Yeah. I'm not gonna lie to you. And it's too many that'll trick you out of your spot.

Absolutely.

That's what they want.

What do you say?

Out your spot. All your friends ain't happy for you. It's a lot your friends ain't happy for you. They're not like you could think you could think that is. But when you. You doing something that they doing, you're doing something that they doing. Everybody don't want none of you on this size of a podcast.

Facts.

You're right.

I know facts.

Like, I'm not lying at all. At all.

I've dealt with it.

I mean.

Yeah.

And I know how old Joe is set up. Old Joe is. Is easy to trick out the spot. It's. It's important for me to evolve daily. I used to be. I was coming to your crib.

That's what I was saying this weekend. That's what I was saying this weekend about you. Because they was like, yo, that put up with a lot of. And I said, well. And they feel like it's unfair. Right? And I. I cracked a joke about it. I think the patreon. But I was like. I think that what Ian explained to me and what Joe said is that they see a little bit of Joe in me. I may be a little bit. Bit. A lot more erratic, but they. He understands a lot of times. A lot of times he understands where I'm coming from. So it's easy to diffuse the situation. Y'all understand? I've seen that before. You shouldn't handle it this way. Even Parks Parks, I don't give him a lot of credit, but even times he pulled me to the side, and he'll say, like, yo, I seen That I seen that behavior before.

Yeah.

Try this way. You know what I mean? So people do think that, yo, there's.

A lot of let the white man.

Tell you what to do, huh? No, it's not about. Yeah, yeah, I do be saying that, but people be up here.

I've dealt with more since you and Mel got hired than I have in my entire.

Somebody said that to me at the baby shower, son.

Really?

The nigga's a Patroni.

Yes.

Shout out to him. He's a Patroni. He gave me some clothes, yo. He pulled me to the side. He said that same. Yo, I've been watching this for years since you and Mel been up there. Him talking about his business structure. Him talking about so much other things. Things like the. Just. It's been a lot of. It seemed like it's been a lot of things that company has been going through since you've been up there.

And I'm like, I'm gonna fix it. I don't. I said, I don't know.

I mean, I said, I don't know. I don't think so.

But I love y'all, man.

Yeah.

I just love y'all.

Why were they.

Why were we the catalyst?

Because they. I don't know. They. They watched the whole. They watched the whole transition, man. They watch the whole transition.

That's what they say.

All the shit you've gone through, me and him coming here is the most shit you've had.

She really would have thrown me on the butt under the bus. She said me say you? Yes, say you, man.

Yeah.

She pointed at me. Yeah, they got. I take it, him more so than me, right?

I'm not saying that it's the same battles, but.

But how. But you had to know that going into it, Joe.

No, I did not.

Yo, you had too.

No, I did not. Y'all lucky I'm eating off you.

I think I. Necessity.

It's a joke.

I came in here and tamed the savage beast.

I feel like I saw a picture.

Of a car you was in. I almost going to heart attack now. Almost crash my. My new.

Oh, Friday.

I almost crash my new. Finally, I saw the new car that he got.

The roar.

I bought the Ferrari.

You got it.

Why you almost get one?

To inspire the ill. I don't know if I told this here, but, I mean, it don't really matter. We ain't talking about nothing, so I'm just running my mouth about. So my people, my management people call me and they like, all right, so the car will be shipped back To Jersey on this day when you want to pick it up. I said, excuse me, I'm not picking it up, nor am I driving it from Elizabeth to me.

No, they gotta drop that off.

Drop my. To the.

To the door.

Yeah.

And they can come and do the whole manual teach you thing that they do here. Say, all right, well, the inspection's in Jersey City. So when you gonna get that done? I said, I'm not driving to get it inspected. And are you not. I didn't buy the car to drive.

You didn't buy the car to drive it?

I didn't buy. Buy the car to drive it. I still got to go find a car that I want to drive.

Yeah, that's rich.

Rich.

Can't stop. Won't stop, right?

I wouldn't want to drive no Ferrari in these roads.

Hell no.

Appreciate you.

So when you going to drive it.

To the hookah spot and back? Yeah, that's. That's all you need.

And even that's a little iffy.

That road ain't through that beautiful, though.

Cave road.

Yeah, but they fixed it a little bit, and I'm doing 2 miles per hour. So everybody sees you.

That's true.

Lights on.

Get a Ferrari to drive slow.

Lights on.

Huh?

Lights on.

What? It's a. It's not what light.

Interior lights on.

No, I didn't even know she had interior lights.

Is your windows down?

I don't know.

That's the stunt word. Will see me are stop at the corner. Remember clubs had to let out. See in Jersey. Clubs had to let out. Will stop at the corner. Put the good song after the show is the app cut the lights on, light turn green.

You know what's funny about the Ferrari story? And this is just poetic justice of life or God's sense of humor or just things coming full circle. Circle. We was coming from a pod one time. Me ice Ish. Corey, when we was in Queens with parks, and we stopped at the gas station. Oh, yeah.

And my man had to.

Yeah. And I looked at that. What the is what is that? And so is there getting gas?

You start talking.

And I got out the car to go talk to him, and he thought I was a mugger.

Did he?

No, I'm just adding sauce to the story. I'm just adding source to the story. But he. And I said to him, I said, hey, man, not to bug you, but that is a beautiful, beautiful car. Like, how'd you do that historically? And he said, well, I'm a such and such surgeon. Recently got a promotion. Life is Going good. And this was a gift that I got to myself for my birthday or something that just passed. And I always looked at it, but I never thought about it. I know. I said, fuck it. I went and got it. And I love it, man. It's beautiful. And I looked, man. Wow. And I took my bum, bummy ass, my dusty ass back to the truck, looked at these guys. Hey, he's a surgeon. I remember that. He's a dental. He's a dental surgeon.

I remember that story.

You stupid.

Yo.

So just like. Yeah, but since you got your Ferrari, put no dents in your pocket. You good, right?

If you see me get the Ferrari.

Some dents have been put in my head, my pocket, my back.

No, no, not. By the time I get to Ferrari, I could have got 30 Ferraris.

That's a lesson in itself, though.

If you see me go get. If you see me go. Yeah, bug out. That means that years and years and years ago, if I was trying to be that guy.

Yeah.

Then we could have been that guy. But it's no fun. That's how you stop being that guy.

You lose it?

No, that Ferrari, I ain't. I forgot. I bought it. I told you. Come sit down, man. Sick.

Come sick.

Hey, once we got off all that mature bullshit, start getting some real. What's up, man?

I ain't really.

I'm waiting. Next year. That's a little toy. I'm mad. This ain't. This ain't. This ain't it. This ain't it. This gonna sit right there. And so homie called me and say, you still like nice things. What you got? What you got? Yes. Wait till next summer. Summer, 2025. Fuck this shit. Flip, come sit down, man. Come work with us. All right, where we at? Where are we? Where are we?

You know where we at. You know where we at.

We at work.

I was just criticizing you and your moves. I'm watching it very close, and you try to play this. What role does he try to play?

Parks.

When you know, just subtle role. Like, I don't. I have nothing going on.

Incognigro.

Incognito. But we watching you, bro.

I wouldn't have said that.

I'm cool.

You'll be canceled. All that engineering. Start talking about some German. I can't say that either, but I'm just saying. Yeah, hiring different people. Ringing the. You just doing whatever you want in front of our faces. And because of the contract we signed, we can't say. We can't even question you. Yo, what's going on? Nothing. Because, hey, we've been told.

I don't know.

I don't give a man, get out of just. I don't trust you. You just up here sitting there. I just walked in. Mark Lamont here, that's my man, too. I like him.

So, anyway, we got you here. What's. What should I be buying?

No, no, no. Don't get off. Let it. Let Flip get his off. Let Flip get his off.

It's not really hate. I feel like, what do you expect when somebody's job is cemented in the earth?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. With all the job security in the world.

What should I invest in? Give me Norton and whatever that. That used to call. It was Norton. Yeah, that. That used to give you. Viruses act like they didn't work.

I told y'all how I felt about y'all on Patreon with the old Mark Lamont.

You said that. Yo, I'm bringing Mark Lamont Hill on the pod so each one of you can get a day off.

Facts.

Yeah.

How does that work? Is 1, 2.

What we're gonna mix and match. I'm mixing and matching. Everybody get a day off.

So what if a decided to still show up?

Oh, didn't show up and stand outside.

Also, they don't sit in no respect.

No, I'm. There's no world where I want to hear from 10 people. Got it. He's coming because he's amazing.

Yeah.

He's an incredible talent.

Absolutely. He's coming here because he's absolutely amazing. And I don't know if the world knows that he is as amazing as he is. He's been. You know them buttoned up. Yeah, you know them. That's. But I was watching every month, every mic button got some Joe Button in him. Now pause.

Oh, no, he definitely has.

All of them buttoned up. Clean cut.

That the girl?

Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah.

Stop commenting.

It is on the record.

Stop commenting. A muffler.

The record.

Okay.

All I'm saying. Okay. Yes. I got the key, so.

Yeah. Mark, how did you.

How did you pull that together?

Huh?

Like. I'm just saying, like, what did you. What did you do? What did you. How you pull that together? I don't like shit like that, Nigga, you got me for the low. Huh?

Why?

Huh? Let's talk about it. You got me for the low, nigga, how you pull that together?

Low is subjective. Low is subjective. Do you want to talk about it? Oh, just.

Can I ask you a question since you asked me one?

Sure.

I know they talk about the job security, but what was your framework to make it? Were you so valuable that you had a job?

Good question.

I don't.

I don't. I don't know if it was really that intentional. And I don't know that my job is the most secure. I mean, I think it is, but.

P, stop. Don't try to relate to us. P. Don't try to be that. You awesome. You know that piggy man.

Shut up.

Yes.

Don't try to relate to us. What are y'all going through? Yeah, what are they going through? Where he says this?

No, I'm saying. Okay, yes.

Why are you so threatened by other people coming up here?

Me?

Yes.

I'm not really threatened by it.

You've been ranting about being threatened by it for the last two.

I have a plan to exit parks.

Why?

That's what you want to say? I have a plan. I'm not threatening. I'm just. I'm gonna tell you do. I have a plan to exit. So I have to be able to use.

I got a plan for you now to exit.

Exactly. We're going back and forth. So I have to. I have to. I have to see who wins.

I have to throw up there trying to get that wilding out gig. I'll come right backstage at the Barclays. You and everybody, y'all. I'm a free agent. Free agent soon. Got to be seen. Hey, hey, Con. I seen. I seen. You need another man up here. I could do all of this stuff. You not low. I'll be trying to get a job. I see what all you be trying to get.

I seen. Shout out. Mike Ruger out, too. I saw you. I saw you.

Damn.

Are you crazy?

I saw you. That's all I'm saying, bro.

Mark Lamont is here as an additive pause.

Yes.

To answer your question, I'm not intimidated by anything. All jokes aside. I mean, what I do feel, though, is that you are an important.

Yeah.

He expresses that. How important you are to the gig. And even though you're not a guy, that. That's a show off type guy. I don't know if I'm saying it right.

You're not.

You know, you're very humble.

Yeah.

The truth is the truth. Right, Right. You've been there since the beginning, and you don't act like it. You just sit in the back. But we. I put the respect on you. I feel like it's just secure me.

Yeah. You know what's.

And I think that's fly.

You know what's really underrated in this business, and I hate that. This podcast, I don't hate it, but that this has turned into, like, this type of Patreon vibe. But you know what's really underrated? It just being a good human.

True.

Just being a good. Just being a good human and being where you supposed to be and just doing what you supposed to do and feeling how you're supposed to feel and just showing up as your best self is really just underrated. For all the. That you're saying about Parks and how great the mixing sounds.

He's great.

Just a good guy.

Yeah.

Very good.

Work hard. He's a good guy. When them was calling for Ice Head, I'll get him out of there. When his voice was all scratchy, I was like, I just a good man. What are y'all talking about? Yeah, what are you talking about? He's a good guy. I'm not a good guy. I'm not a good guy.

Go around the room. Go around the room. You stop at the two people that you said earlier. Like, I'm getting down to the bottom. You stop the. I. I'm getting down to the bottom. You see Fox? You see he stopped and pointed to him. You see Fox.

I feel like y'all three have the most shit with y'all, but y'all are tasked. Y'all are tasked with that. So for me, it's interesting to see y'all manage that. I don't necessarily watch that with ice and Parks because. Because the same way the sun is going to come up in the morning, Parks is going to be parks and ice is going to be ice. Any variable could get either one of y'all three to just show something different.

That's a very diplomatic way of putting it.

It's the truth.

I know.

I ain't trying to be funny.

I know you're not. It is true.

And I used to do that, so I'm with it. And I do think that everybody is a good person, like, at your core, but you have to work. You have to. You have to work. It's constant work to be a good person. Real. Like, I work on my nice people voice. Like, when I want people to think I'm a nice person, I work on the voice. It's the same as standing in the bathroom area working on wrapper hands. Like, when I want to seem more sentimental than I am, I try. And, man, it's hard. I gotta work on it. We got a couple more minutes with Ian, so anything that we need to get from Ian And Ian sent over a great list of conspiracy theory shit. Oh. That we just did not get to at all.

That's.

Can we get this?

Yeah, I would like to. Please. Ian left me at the bar by myself with the escorts. Is that a conspiracy there?

No, no, that's. Yeah.

Why you do that for her?

I have to be here. Be here early.

He had to be here, too, though.

Yeah, well, Cadence is different. Hasn't studied the market in the morning.

I still want to know. She was tossing it, too.

Aside from escorts market Tuesdays.

No, I'm good on that.

All right, let's see.

I'm investing in putrid. Good.

What's investing if Kamala Harris wins? I think we kind of did that a little.

I'll do Vanguard BlackRock tickers. B. Okay. Nvidia, please hold. I'm begging, if I made you money, please put yes in the comments 101. No, I won't. Microsoft, of course, because they own 49% of OpenAI, which is going to be probably the biggest IPO of a startup this decade. Visa for sure. Shout out to the CEO of Visa. I saw him at the White House when I was there.

And you said hold for indeterminate minimum five years.

Always looking for advice. Shut the fuck.

Eli Lilly for sure. As that healthcare space makes more money. Eli Lilly is incredibly important. And then Starlink, whenever that goes public.

Do you guys think that the dude from Minority Report has a case in terms of Elon Musk and the designs being similar?

Oh, from iRobot.

Yes, they are very, very similar.

Very similar. But if you didn't protect your ip, that's the part that sucks. Yo. It's a direct copy and ripoff, but it's something I've learned. Trademarks are key. Protecting your IP is key.

Question number two. This is for the room. Biggest lesson learned in the past decade. Give it to me. And these are quick. We quicken this. We quicken this past decade. Damn. Decade.

What's that, 20 personal lesson or like.

Yeah, that's personal.

Hmm.

Stay on top of your fucking finances, taxes, all that shit.

I agree.

Everybody ain't your friend.

Buy insurance even though it's a fucking racket.

Uh.

Stop trying to impress the outside world.

I have another one. Do not fall for the damsel in distress because they end up getting a building the next month.

God damn. With your cake money. Yes.

Let get over that.

That's funny.

You hear some of the Tesla robots were being controlled by humans?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, they had some back there with a little remote control.

Yep. Not fully autonomous how he projected. Yeah.

Will Drake and Kendrick ever be cool again?

No, no, no.

Hard. No one that for me. How many kids do you think Epstein had and left money to. Oh, I like this one.

This is.

That was one of my favorite. And left money too. That was one of my favorite ones.

Did he have any children that like that he talked about or are we talking about illegitimate?

Talked about, huh? I'll have enough time because I got a heart out. But one day we got to have a conversation about where some of that money was routed too.

I'll fly you out here for that talk. Let me fly you out.

Yeah, to the agency. I'm on your side.

Let me fly you out. Thoughts on Kamala Harris playing? We did that. What percentage of the NBA and NFL is rigged? All of it's rigged now. Controlled by the referees. With gambling and play seeing some real wonky.

I don't think it's all of it, but I do think that there is a percentage.

I think the winners be kind of damn near like you almost got if you. If you even watched the game last night.

Absolutely.

That game was a horribly officiated game and it was almost like, yo, we can't let the jets win this game.

I think there's also inherent biases that creep into sports and have forever. I think that Pat Mahomes is going to get a roughing the penalty roughly against him every single time. Same way Michael Jordan never got called for a foul. You know what I mean? There's some. That's inherent but I do think it's stepped up now with.

I really think it's more of that think of people just putting a lot of it on the betting. Maybe I could be naive, but I think it's just certain people are going to get certain calls or not get and when you lose money you're going.

To blame it on the betting part.

But you don't think the gambling market being so big now like at one point in our community. I think gambling will surpass passive investing as a primary investment vehicle.

I agree with you.

That's true.

It's coming.

It might be that now. It might be that now in our community. What you talking.

The conversations that I be having at.

Bank they're like bro, in our communities, bro, that might.

That's.

I ain't gonna lie. That's the thing now.

It ain't too far off the stock market and you could actually might have a little bit of knowledge about the.

I ain't even know the still play street numbers. One of My people hit the street for 30 grand.

I was like, God damn right.

They still got that.

Street numbers ain't dead. I know.

30 grand. Some one of my people just hit.

Top five potters of the year outside of the show. Show. I'm never acknowledging nobody outside of this show. That's not true.

We've definitely acknowledged people outside the show.

And I won't do it today. Oh, okay. Gotcha. I won't do it today.

Save for another day.

All. Everybody's failing.

Great majority.

Everybody's failing. I know that's gonna sound like some bullshit, but, I mean, yeah, everybody is. Shannon the bell curve.

Shannon I. With Shannon Gilbert. Gilbert cooking.

I love, love them. I got. I'm never. I'm never talking about the sports people. Okay. I'm not talking about the sports people at all. I don't even know nobody at all. All right. Ian has a heart out. I'm asking y'all the rest of these good questions. You. We got to get together and.

Absolutely.

And we talked. We talked last night. We'll. We'll get to.

I'm not playing Flip this one plan.

I'm not playing 2025.

I swear to God. Playing. I love you. Can we collab at some point? I'll ask you for you.

I didn't hear what you said before.

That you said, don't spread yourself then. Oh, yeah.

Hit me up, man. Hit me. Hit me up.

Holy.

Don't look at me.

You trying it. You trying to get fired, but it won't happen.

No, I'm not trying to get fired.

Sitting there on your phone. You're just doing what you want, but I don't care.

No, don't say that.

You're not getting fired.

I don't want to get fired.

Text that. Text, text that. Yo, say, it ain't going like I planned. Hey, G Money. Hey, G Money. He look like he's keeping me. Let's make some noise for Ian. D, man. Always love to have you fly ass suit. I'm trying to fly. You're looking good.

Thank you.

You're looking good out there. Ian looked at me when the escorts was on. On our heels. He's like, how do you do it? How do you just ignore that?

How do you keep the idea?

I say, are you still out of trouble?

Yeah. I said, I don't do this. I don't come to places like the pergola bar and see that. I didn't even have my ring on.

True.

I didn't even have my ring on.

No bracelet either, too.

No.

Yeah.

Not at all. Actually I was wearing this sleeves covering all that they didn't get. They could smell it. Huh.

They got WFA big facts.

No comment. No comment. We ain't like the athletes where they just could pull up what podcasters is making.

It ain't that.

Thank God.

Thank the Lord.

God down here.

That's crazy.

They don't need to even see us. Scary.

You know what I noticed real quick?

What you notice Flip when get older.

They don't wear earrings anymore.

I got earrings on.

I kept losing my.

I got stuck.

I don't see you earrings in your ears.

I kept losing. That's why I stopped.

I got a dick.

That don't make you.

I didn't say nothing about that.

Do you have your ears pierced?

Ears pierced? Yeah, many years ago. Huh.

When you stop?

When I got infection in my ear.

The that's why.

And I didn't have no ill earring when I got my pierced. I had some. I seen that had that in there. I was like why did I even walk into this club? I was going to get something.

How can you tell when it's like.

Because they get an ear infection.

Yeah.

See that KE on the back of.

That big ass fat.

It's ready to get a big ass earring and walk in n it's going to get a hoop.

That is. That's you disgusting.

When's the last time you put an earring in your ears?

Like n. It's been decades but you think it's time again.

My. I was about to get some my ripped cuz you remember back in the day we used to have a big ass earrings with the screwbacks. I used to sleep in my shits.

Oh yeah.

And that rip. It was a rip in my ear.

Yeah.

Oh that's like Mel when she's sleeping on makeup.

I don't though.

Mel don't go to the bathroom tipsy as hell and wipe it all off. Nah, she get right.

I have my makeup wipes.

You ever have to wipe your bitch makeup off like you dirty ass do you got in bed like this.

You wipe the girl makeup pores all.

Clogged in my pants. Yeah. Yeah. My girl now don't really wear makeup. Yeah.

Put the little tatcha rice water the wipes.

Yeah. That's like romantic a little bit.

You never did that.

Paul said why he does that.

Go moisturize that shoe.

For real.

Thank you so much.

Friday.

She was so excited I did that. You gained some points. Ian, come back soon man. Thank you.

I love y'all.

Come Back soon. We love you. Good luck with you. Shouted out all your partners. The White House don't play meta.

Gotcha, Zuckerberg.

That be like, yeah, Danny.

Oh, yeah.

Or Josh.

Yeah.

Josh Brown.

New book out Karen.

Ian tried to pay last night.

That. Yeah, he always tried.

He tried to pay last night.

He always.

I wasn't violating last time either. For the record.

You violated me.

No, I'm being a good friend.

Don't be a good friend to me.

That. Why not?

I'm going to pay.

Was when this. Was this when we were all at.

Yeah, I'm going. Play with me.

You was with him last night.

I'm rushing.

No, not last night. The last. With the time he's talking about.

Oh, when it's like you around, I just go. I just go find shorty early here before money man comes. Compete.

Yeah, yeah.

You think that's ego? Of course it is ego. I don't think that's ego at all. Absolutely. I don't.

You.

Said you rushed the angle and you got mad at your friend for paying the bill.

No, no, no. Not in real life. Mad.

I'm just saying. How dare you pay the bill. That's the ego talking right there.

No, that's. I don't look at it that way at all.

How you look at it.

Yeah, please let me consideration.

You hand me out as a guest, I should at least contribute to the table.

See, I think that's his ego.

It is his ego.

I invited you out. If I have to play ego. I invited you out as a guest to a spot that we all go to. It ain't for you now to pay for this entire table. I invited you. If you do that. Thank you. But you've paid a bunch. Like, you pay. You pay. It ain't like a. So, no, I got a race. I think that's like a. It's like a courtesy thing. Like, it's like a respect thing. I respect this guy so much. I know I got it and I.

Know how he get down.

Yeah, I know he got. He got such a good heart. If I don't do it this way, he gonna keep doing it that way. So you just gotta be. That's not an ego thing for me. That's like a selfless type of. Yeah, I respect this guy.

Yeah, I respect you too.

And that's the opposite. Him and his man fighting over the calamari. Yeah. For real. That was ego.

That. Stop.

That was ego far from hell.

Again, I know that wasn't ego.

No, no.

If it was ego, I'd have been like, oh, yeah, Say nothing to swipe. That wouldn't have been nothing. I don't know, y'all.

Oh, my God.

I think I could have picked what's my man name that used to be singing outside the cafeteria selling the flowers. I could have took coming to the mix.

Yo, yo.

Oh, no. He was giving them away. He gave away the flowers.

Gentlemen. Yeah, he's gentlemen.

Yo.

All right, asshole.

Ian, thank you, buddy. Thank you again. Good luck with everything you're doing, all your endeavors. Come on, man. Cuff sitting right over the rolly. Talk to these. He ain't kissing you. A handshake will suffice. A handshake will suffice.

Shout out.

You ain't always got a bad. You sat, man and did like this link.

Did the whole.

You did that, man.

Whole ass cheekbones.

Haters.

Okay, before we go, are y'all buying into what they saying LL Cool J meant by saying he she? You mean that Blow, sweetie.

Delicious.

Delicious. Give me two scoops. Love me good. Damn. Holistic Hollywood. But is he good in hip hop? And I was a lyricist. I never knew what he was talking about right there. It was just fire. Who cares? Flaving the ear remix. Now they're saying he, she, and it was a transgender in the video, and then that same transgender was at the urinal or another transgender at the urinal in the big pop up video, which was a continuation to warning when she was in the bed next to Big. So some of these things are coming up now. Do y'all think that LL knew and he she was about that?

No, no, no, no, no.

So what do you think it was.

A About just LL being LL Yeah. What's pink cookies in the plastic bag getting crushed by a building? Don't nobody know what the that is, man.

Yeah, but there wasn't a mascot in a plastic bag being pink in the video, so it's like, I'm not mad at.

He should be. First of all, are we sure that the person that was in that video is a transgender?

Yeah.

Yes.

Why? Cuz we get. We have nobody found where they at today. Where the.

They passed away.

They passed away?

Yeah. Oh, I'm just saying. Yeah, like, I know. But it was confirmed. It was confirmed that this person was a transgender. All right, so y'all think LL didn't know?

No.

Does any of this change how you feel about Biggie's sexual preference?

No, I didn't feel anything about Biggie's sexual preference ever.

Or view his sexual preference.

I don't think it was A question?

No, I don't care what he's into.

Exactly. We're super woke now.

The nigga may ready to die, though.

Oh, I 100% care. And I'm thinking about it.

Why do you care?

Cuz of Puff. Oh, cuz of Puff. Because if we open our mind to think that about Biggie, then who's. Who's to say that we're not looking at that kind of like we look at Justin Bieber.

I look at it differently just based on their age.

Yeah.

So I think that's a little different.

When did they like first.

Well, the age is different.

That's what I'm saying.

Like, so opportunity is not true.

I agree with that.

Opportunities. Yeah. But it's. And I could take y'all way. I could take y'all down this, but I won't.

That could tie into a bunch of.

Hey, believe this out. Bleed this out. And you know what they were saying about.

And when you saw the video of Craig Mack when he was giving his testimony in the church? Like the things I've seen. I've been the devil. Mace. Mace said, dog, it got.

Mace said the same. Yeah.

Mason.

Mason.

It got to a point. Yeah. All of them retired and turned to God.

If we're close minded to the stuff, then we. Then we won't even view it through this lens.

Maybe was beef in the street.

I mean, so. So you say. And so people think. But I think that Mace and some other people are storing secrets that never spoke.

I know the people that wrote his book. Cameron wrote his book and she was like. She took. He's so stupid. She said that we not recording no more.

Yes, we are. Yeah.

Oh, man.

No.

You had him. Yeah.

I ain't getting into that.

After my whole apology.

No, cuz you was like, yo.

You don't even know where we at.

No, cuz you was like, yo.

No. I just wanted to bleep out that Craig Mack part because I think it's insensitive and irresponsible.

Rest in peace.

To paint that like that. Gotcha. Rest in peace to Craig, Ma, Mac, Biggie. Just everybody. All right. I don't have.

I went to a crazy baby shower.

What made it crazy Sunday?

Because it's just baby showers are different now. Shout out to Ali Cat and Sasha. But.

Shout them out.

I. I saw a lot of Hollis standing in front of the B. There's mad chairs. It was mad girls there. But they. They were standing in front of the baby shower lined up. I'm like, what we got? Think we had Amazura, it's not a party. Go sit down.

The baby shower's a party now. Bro goes down to the baby shower. You crazy.

Like my is so hood. They want me to come stand with them. No, Junior, record these. Record them?

They're standing there. Doing what?

Standing lined up in front of the baby shower. Just standing there in unison.

Like inside the baby.

Inside. I never saw that before. I said I never saw this before. It must be some holla.

Meatballs must have been trash. The me balls get all them inside facts.

No, they were inside, but they were standing in the front. You know what? You know where the chairs and usually be at.

All right, y'all, they serving the food.

They weren't outside. They were inside.

Or actually, I don't even announce it. Once you see one come out with.

A plate.

A little leaning, his a little lean.

He got balances.

Big plate. Yeah, you got a break.

Everybody do one of these on them.

Wait, when you get that.

Yeah, yeah, we out.

Fights go down to the baby showers.

I've heard about them.

Yes, I've heard about some shouldn't, but I'm not surprised. I ain't surprised, nigga. Fights go down at funerals.

Well, that's.

Yes, that happens.

They happen at funerals for sure. I'm done here. There's nothing else that I want to say outside of that Timberwolf Nick game the other day. Really hurt my soul. It really hurt my soul. Also, I've been texting Mark Lamont Pictures of injured 76ers. I saw it.

I saw it, bro.

Why didn't you text them to ice in the pregame? No, I don't need to text the ice. But that little hip that looked awkward, that Paul George. And you got Joel Embiid saying he plans on never playing back to backs.

Saw that too.

Again on load management now. So my heart goes out to you Sixer fans that y'all thought y'all and us was about to have some season long rivalry. Bill. Anyway, that Timberwolves game hurt my heart. Dante Dividendio Dividendzo looks amazing in that jersey. And he was popping bad shit to the bench and to what? Sound like Tom Thibodeau. And then I thought it was all jokes until the end of the game when him and Rick Brunson almost squinted.

Brunson got into it when he was on the line, too.

Yeah, but wait, you saying Brunson the coach Rick or Jalen?

No, Rick. What happened was he was shooting at Tibbs from the foul line and Brunson jumped in I thought, I can't go to the hole. Yeah. Then Brunson jumped in in defensive Tibbs. And at the end of the game, Brunson was like, yo, you know you just did some to defensenzo. And he was like, what? And they started getting to it. He's like, yo, mind your business. I wasn't even talking to you. I was talking to Tibbs, you know what I'm saying? And he said some slick shit. Rick Brunson turned back around, but Jalen kind of got into the middle of it.

It hurt my heart. It hurt my heart. I ain't gonna lie to you. And when one of your favorite players leave your team and go somewhere else, they be looking like Jordan. They be cooking all them Euro steps, deep shooting. He was cooking our ass. He was. I watched that game. I think the timbu made out great in the trade and I think the Knicks did too. But I don't really want to see Cap, but I think both Timberwolves, I.

Think it was a good trade.

Are we still in pre. Are y'all still in preseason?

Yeah, the season starts next week and.

The Knicks are looking good.

October 22nd, they look good. I think they're going to be a top team in the league. I mean, I just don't want to see. They just. Yeah, I just don't want to see it like that. But whatever, I'm going to watch it. I'll be at the game. Go Knicks. Go Knicks. Go Mets. Go Yankees.

I want to ask him about the Mets, the Mets. The Mets are. How far are they from making like, where are we at now? They gotta win.

It's one more, three more games.

It's one more and then they'll make the series.

They need three more games. Then they make the World Series. As of right now, the Yankees need three more and they make the World Series.

Yo, if it's the Subway Series, it's gonna be nasty. New York gonna be Queens. You're gonna be crazy. The Subway Series happened again.

So you ain't do the interview, but that's kind of what they was asking. You would have really liked the interview.

Oh, the msg. Yeah.

Because the MSG was basically just talking about the resurgence of New York sports, spirit of New York sports. And surrounded by New York sports. Yes, you a die hard New York sports fan across all of the. You know what I mean? So it would have been something genuine that would have been right up your alley. You would have the Giants.

Would you go to a game, a baseball game, if they 100% that nigga likes baseball.

He really likes baseball.

He likes baseball games.

Baseball games.

I'm going to a subway series.

Oh, you are? You are?

Yes.

The other day they showed a few of the basketball players that went to a hockey game for the first time. And they was having never been to a hockey game, so much fun. I would like to go to a Rangers game.

When I used to do it, yo, when I used to live across the street from the joint down there, I used to go to the devil's game. That was, yo, the devil should be on fire. Fire.

So the devil's got you out. Devil's made sure you stop coming to them. Just watching from home.

Hockey be dope. The only thing is, I don't drink. So when you like the people that be drunk at the hockey games, they have a blast.

That's why you go.

That's the point of going to sports games. I don't do that. But sports, period.

I would like to go to a hockey game. It's fun this year. Well, hockey next year. That's all I got for y'all out there, man. I don't have anything else that's important or unimportant. Sorry. Hopefully you enjoyed this broadcast. I feel like I just ran my mouth. I feel like we ain't talk about shit topic wise.

What's the shit going on?

Well, that's what make us us, man.

Word. That's true, man. That's true. We are us. Okay, so sleeper time. Well, now let me check this part of the show. Now let me check part of the show. Just make sure that nobody. I mean, somebody might need us out there. Mm. Y'all talking in a minute.

Somebody gotta need some help, man. We the relationship.

Who better?

Who better than us? Yeah.

Get you through your hard times for sure.

I'm posted up observing scene. Smoking, drinking, pills, guns. A whole lot of wild energy. But I'm having fun, so it's cool. I'm not with Shout out to everyone in front and behind the scenes. First to Ice Joe Parks and J1. Y'all have had. Have you all had the chance to listen to Big X to Plug's new album Take care. I think it's fire. Sure is. However, I want to get Yalls thoughts. Second to Joe Ish and Amani. Have y'all heard of an R B artist named R A I C H E and her album Loveland? No, I haven't heard that. Who I think is signed to Atlantic? Girl, Atlantic is over with. Disclaimer. I'm not on a payroll. I'm just trying to. Trying to see if my ear for music is weak. And that is from DJ Stydom Stidham. I haven't heard that artist yet, but I will check it out to see how I feel about it.

I still gotta listen to big x album.

Yeah, I heard it's crazy chance to see what album is fire. I was mad I missed it. Like I didn't know it dropped. But indie, you know how that goes.

Yeah, they'll put you right in that little top section.

All right, I think I'm going with Raven Lanay featuring Ty Dolla Sign. And this record is called Dream Girl. We don't need talking this that they have to say just the whole project is fire Whole project is fire.

We.

Know it's not complicated that's not a perfect equation I'll say cause the taste is all I need and then we fade away Let go of all your exhibitions you don't have to get short of agitation we don't need talking to.

Sn.

A location baby girl I'm on my way you say you want to leave la. Okay, we can stop for the weekend yeah Know what's on your mind what you thinking? Yeah.

Really talking thank God your vaccination you should imagination we don't need talking to stop to say give it a temptation

what if I told you I want you right now and tonight and tomorrow forever. Does that make you nervous? Well, I think you deserve it. I want you to close your eyes just let go. Brand new music from Raven Lin featuring Todd Dollar Sign. That record is called Dream Girl off of her Bird's eye project. Absolutely phenomenal project. If you have not heard it available in your phone and on dsps. Maybe never know anymore.

That's true.

Shout, shout out to her, man. Dope. Shit.

But before I play my sleeper real quick because we talk about Big X. The plug.

Yeah.

And mentioned that he's independent. So I want to give a shout out to 2 Chainz because he announced that he's not resigning with Def Jam and he's going fully independent.

Okay?

So salute.

I like that.

Getting to it that way.

Congratulations to 2 Chainz.

I'm gonna play a record off of Pharrell, Put the piece for piece soundtrack out.

I'm.

Excuse me. Piece by piece.

Okay.

Which is the Lego Movie. The movie's out.

I'm gonna go see about it too.

I told y'all I think it's gonna be great. I haven't had a chance to see it yet.

And they say it's his life story. Yeah.

It's his story just told in Lego through Legos.

Huh?

I'm gonna go see that.

He about to break. Lego Chad up. Lego Chad about to break. That's crazy.

But my record is called Virginia Boy. Remember?

Remakes.

It's Pharrell and Tyler the creator. Yes, it is he. Magnum the verb Lord Mermaid City is where I was born. I prefer words instead of using source but ends up coming off once I press record. First keyboard was Korgan, then Triton. I'm simply reciting none of this I'm writing. Let me explain why I'm a multi hyphen raised in Atlantis of course I love Poseidon. Peace to Tiffany Everybody love the Titan didn't have a bold like my goddaughter.

Arrow being pulled down like crabs in.

The barrel by snakes who like to rattle on your uphill battle Marching cavalier deaths in my bone narrow A black Martian with alien carols Peace to LV.

Something in the world to help me.

Build a pyramid because my dad's name.

Is Sparrow from Virginia Boy from Virginia Boy from Virginia Boy from Virginia Boy from Virginia boy from Virginia boy from.

Yes, it is he Gap two live from the city of the angels by.

The sea Listen to me, you come here, bro, you kissing the ring? You get lost in the south and we clipping your wings Hot dog in the world west side, that side I.

Would kick, kick, kick, push to the.

Other side South Bay where they drown if they get it out of line Dark red, light blue when they keep a magic wand but it was fun though I had a keyboard download a gun door they had a front row like where the sun go?

Cause they would lock that ass up.

Like Rapunzel dog that's a no, no dog now we got flaw now we were skateboard, baby we ain't on no call see I've been aboard yeah, I'm a LA California baby and for reals.

From Virginia, Boy from Virginia Boy from.

Virginia Boy from Virginia Boy from Virginia.

Boy from Virginia boy from Virginia boy. And that's a Virginia Boy remix. Pharrell and Tyler, the creator off of the Piece by Piece soundtrack.

I like it fire Speaking of independence. And again, RIP K. This is I love.

I love, I love, I love Pick me up now's at my lowest Used to hardly dispel Now I'm hell with the poets that was all you're doing was filthy. You built me when I was all ruined how you sold me with compliments really helped out Bolstered all confidence in myself Doubt it was time for my thirst she was clearly a wealth it eventually made me empty I was merely a shell none observer was on the verge of cracking till you said I had a gift when you heard me rapping with your warm response since I was taken aback former partners had me feeling like wild Megan was whack didn't offend me saw something in me I was blind too who knew to finish finding me I had to find you to close the thought support was life saving my death is minor you got me living life major I stayed forever.

You make me better.

I love.

I love.

When hurt or sick the only person I seek could write a play.

About strength on how you work in.

The week wanted to give you the.

World I saw you here struggling all praise to the father I had you here mothering sorry for the times I was belling in my teens but you know I had felon in my genes was bad man in badlands chasing desire viewing what you went through I learned grace under fire saying you proud of me the sweetest words ever pure soul I know moms you deserve better whatever ailments you nurse me back to health defend me even when the enemies affect myself show me love when all I seen was hate said I was special to impress you wanted to be seen it's great it's my kiss thank you for the unconditional and though I may not see you as much I'm always messing sacrifice was a facts of life I love.

I love.

Held me down when I needed it most by the shoulder to cry on or I needed the toast and would never let me go it alone everybody called it the slum but we know it is home from where we from we supposed to be dug we both shared a different dream we was closer than blood learned from you how to pour my heart in the song way ahead of your time it was just hard to get on ain't gonna lie just one wanted to buy houses for the fam move motherhood give him thousands of some land the nice sessions of eternal life lessons that I still use today when I'm up tight stressing always said we was veteran survivors and even though you pass you'll forever be the Lovis was an honor to see you shine I was.

Blessed son cause in the end as.

Far as friends he was the best one gave so much and behave so clutch I love I love.

That'S Brownsville car I love rest in peace and thank you for your contributions.

That was fire Big ish.

He's really dope. It's. It's artsy rap.

Yo. Poet rat yo, before ish. Go too. Not that. This is super, super, super important. I thought I was gonna laugh and get a good little kiki out of it. Have y'all heard Lance Stevenson freestyling?

I did see it. Yeah, he was on the radar, right?

I ain't gonna lie to y'all.

He body's not bad.

Yeah, Lance is all right.

Oh, Hollywood, I'm with all the stars.

I got a load of cars Universal we just flew from Mars like it's no tomorrow Rolling on almost quarter charge Checking my order, no time for no G5 on stage, standby Passports without stamp.

So no telling when I'm going land.

By BK I was born ready in a snowstorm instead of campfire Got to.

Work on my social skills don't talk.

To me cause I'm anti speed racing.

Like Rick Bobby like this what made.

You think that he wasn't gonna be able to rap?

I grew a money tree I'm the.

One you just wanna be she wants that double D checks in advance of.

Money in front of me she got.

A bag, I got a bag we going way, way, way up Hunting the cash, doing the dash we going way, way, way I got the new money.

Yo, he was out there blowing LeBron's ear. Whatever the he was right.

The way he riding the beat is.

Crazy, yo, I ain't going to lie.

The way he rode the beat is.

Crazy all right, my bad. Go ahead.

N. You good. I'm going to. Young lady's name is Amaria and the song is called Fly.

That's my girl right there. She don't miss

my baby, you know I'm on the right can't shake it, don't want to send me one Been.

Waiting for you oh so long.

Are you liking what you see? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah oh, you wanna dance with me? No matter what they say I'm all you need

with you O I feel so bright.

That is Amaria. Fly and shout out to the bass and drums. Yeah, they was in that pocket, boy.

Yeah, that was fire. God damn.

You got mine, Sparks.

I do okay.

What tam Impala dropped?

It's galant, actually.

Oh, same. Same thing. It's on the Melody and Sleepers page.

Not yet.

All right.

It's called Centigrade. Featuring Nail Nails.

Touching those worth the wait but how's the hesitation going to fight back forever? Would hate for guilt to be the driving force in a carnal tug of war Keep it copacetic Skim the waves, the ripples Try to make it change course Some pissed out is Caught in the cross wins Lucky for us we're in the same ball Mercury drops in till we get the K.O. it's not a mystery Nature's flow we keep losing accusations I see conversations we get back time, sleep it's winter to me if I could just hibernate you said a word away Seasons just flow we'll come and go so are we just wasting time? Should we let fate decide? And I know that happy spring time forever but how do we make it through the seasons together? Why? Misconceptions magnified can we take it all the strict rumination Closer to the path in life can't we take it all the sh. Losing sleep from accusations I see conversations we don't get back Touching those worth away Perhaps the hesitation on a fight.

By Galant and Neo.

Thank you.

Not too sh.

Like it kind of sexy.

All right. All right. Yo, dog, I thought we was gonna.

Get one pot without it happening. We almost did it.

Almost. Almost there.

It ain't. It's regular. Oh, no. These stupid election niggas keep calling my phone. Get out of here.

You should've answered it.

You ain't gonna do what you supposed to do for that payola, man.

Ish. What up? How you feel about your Cowboys, man? We got a. We've had Namari Cooper and Devonte Adams trade since we started recording, which made me think to ask you.

It's frustrating being a Cowboy fan.

He would have to be.

Amari ain't want to leave. We got rid of Amari for peanuts. What did y'all get for?

I didn't see.

We kept Gallup after ACL injury and gave Gallup a shit ton of money and let Amari, your number one receiver, go. So imagine if we had Amari and CD right now. That's one. Derrick Henry wanted to come to Cowboys. We ain't even really interviewed a nigga, and he out here putting up MVP numbers looking like HE12 again.

Again. Eric Henry look ridiculous.

We can't run the ball and we can't stop the run, so. And we not even really protecting Deck, so I ain't even really as mad at him. You know, I come in on him, too, but it ain't even really his fault.

Yeah, the Cowboys. I. I don't know, man.

You can't stop a runny nose out that.

My heart. My heart goes out to y'all.

No, it doesn't.

No, I do. I do, actually. I'm not trying to be funny. Like Cowboys get the prime time slot normally. You want to see a good game you don't want to see the Lions throw it. The head coach was in the end zone. I think it was just throwing it to the waterboy. Hey, hey. Let's try this. Give a, bro. It was disrespectful out there, but, you know, revenge game.

We're gonna get them.

Revenge game.

I'm over here angry with my team. They steal us. Talking about they starting Russell Wilson next week.

Why stupid.

Yeah, dog. And then they be wondering why these teams don't be good. Good. It don't be no continuity. Just be trying.

That's nasty. All right, I think I'm ending this bad boy. Let's see here.

Came in pretty good. Pause to see what you.

I came in on some rap. I'm ending on some rap.

There's some good rappers.

I never heard that before. Offended me. Oh, Joe played the same Jeezy set.

I ain't gonna lie. I was. I was like, wait, he did this? But I like the record, so I'm not gonna complain.

But damn, that was by design.

I hear you, but, you know, Jeezy got a lot of records. If you gonna put a set together. You played the same three?

I played the same three. For energy purposes only.

He got other ones you could do with that?

No, no. I wanted those records to get good energy from me and my guys, and that's what I did them. Oh, shit.

I mean, it was cool at first.

The last thing y'all should ever want me to do is get into my rat bag so y'all could be confused.

The people, they started, you know, to.

Talk about things that make sense.

I like the rock.

What up?

I don't know where that comes from. I don't even know. I

sees to me in squad to three say rock this muster as he.

Really can't be Seek him in action as he transform that man to me.

Enemies keep us in your prayer Lord knows we need to be there Till the next time I you would do Farewell. Adios. All that good stuff, man. Remember, life is a series of moments. What the is wrong with these? Wait, what?

You've never heard this before?

No, he never heard none of them record.

My first introduction to hip hop was.

Walk around town with the power strap down.

You know how Matt come through on the club? I tell you, my mother had an AM station in Hanova. Drop me to school Only Radio Disney.

Oh. I was in high school in North Carolina. Going crazy. These run is underrated. They don't get talked about.

Very underrated.

You know what I'm saying?

Check it Out I walk around town.

With the pound strap down to my side.

I would go get all this. Like, I would go get this and recirculate this.