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If Tyler Herro were actually interested in hurting the Heat organization and extra— being extra annoying, He presses charges.
Oh, Dan, we have huge breaking news. This is moments ago. The Tribal Chief, Roman Reigns, he has invited Jalen Brunson to Saturday night's main event at Madison Square Garden this Saturday night on Peacock. Jalen Brunson has accepted the invitation. Holy shit.
You have disrespected the breaking news sounder. Wow.
Does Metalorc want to send me?
You know who's showing up?
I don't.
Halliburton.
Oh, that's good. That's good. That's good.
Trae Young.
They both have already done this in the WWE. So let's look. We got SummerSlam to move tickets for.
Put it on the poll at @LeBittardShow. If he were trying to be annoying, should Tyler Herro press charges?
Tyler.
Chris, I'm going to say it again just so that you're clear on the information I gave you at the end of the last hour.
I don't like it.
ESPN put together a list of the best tackles in the NFL, and Patrick Paul was not among the top 10. But then they had honorable mention, and that was 5 guys. And then less honorable mention, almost dishonorable mention, is the next 7 guys, which was others receiving votes. But Patrick Paul wasn't in the top 22 tackles as listed, By ESPN.com.
I'm with Damashek. Nobody knows what they're talking about when it comes to linemen.
Not even tackles?
Nope.
Nothing but big boys left in the World Cup.
We were always told when it comes to offensive line, if you don't know somebody's name, that's a good thing. And no one knows Paul's name, including Chris.
Did I surprise you by saying he was Patrick? That his name is not Paul, it's Patrick. It is Paul, but it's Patrick.
That doesn't make any sense. We all knew who Jonathan Ogden was. That was a bad thing? That doesn't make sense what you said.
That's correct. It's the guards that you don't want to know their names. The tackles, you want to know their names. Not the guards so much. The World Cup though, the big boys, it's nothing but big boys. It's the Giants. And how about Jude Bellingham returning to the form of the pitch from 2 years ago?
And Jude Bellingham has been pretty good too. That's a fine.
Oh, what did I call him?
Bellingham.
Oh, shit.
That's a fine.
Man, goddammit.
It was a funny joke though. You were so close.
Oh man, that hurts.
People get names wrong sometimes.
No, but I've been doing it more and more and it's just debilitating. Okay. No, it's not okay. Uh, you— so you've got France and you've got Spain and you've got Argentina and England, and Argentina doesn't feel like it belongs. Obviously it does, but Argentina doesn't seem like it is playing the same way that the other 3 teams are playing. They just have had weaker opponents, and I don't know if you want to say it's favoritism or not, but suspicious shit keeps happening that leaves the opponents really mad about stuff. The latest being like, I just, I really do think at this time of year, if this is what you're doing after 4 years of waiting for these games, like, if you're gonna red card somebody, it has to be so egregious. It can't be questionable. Like, it can't, it just simply cannot be something that's on the line. It has to be something that's egregious if you're gonna take away somebody's ability to play in an all-or-nothing game.
You're talking about the dive. They didn't red card him. That was a second yellow. And the number one complaint that I hear from American sports fans when it comes to soccer is the players dive so much and there isn't scoring. Well, this World Cup, there have been like a handful of games where you're like, man, that's an early 2000s ass game because with all the flopping, they've kind of done a really good job to the point that there's more flopping in the NBA. And the reason why is stuff like we saw in that Switzerland-Argentina game where a guy was trying to draw a call. Clearly flopped. It was a second yellow.
Can't do that when you're already on a yellow.
No, no, it was very stupid.
I—
this is why I didn't like the whole Balogun thing, because there's enough of this shit on the internet and we've kind of made it mainstream now. Argentina, the whole thing is rigged for them. I don't think they rigged that second goal from Julian Alvarez. I don't know how you rig something like that. I don't know how you rig a Swiss player being an idiot already on a yellow diving to get another call. That, that was just Argentina getting through. And while, yes, they haven't played particularly well, their path has been easier compared to some of the other teams. They're still the reigning world champions. And this is a semifinal unlike any we have ever seen in World Cup history. Dan, it's the top 4 teams in the world.
The part that I don't understand about the controversies we're seeing now, Dan, and you know what, soccer fans in other countries, if they were to sit and watch American football, they would probably have the same beefs about, I don't understand how the challenges work. And that's like, that's what I'm talking about.
What about the catch?
Yeah, but, but I watch these games and like, I understand how VAR works, but there's some things where it's like, wait, they're allowed to use VAR for this and for this, but they can't do it. Like they can't do it to look if the ball hit the cable wire because by law, if it hits something that's not on the pitch, the play is supposed to be blown dead. But we can go back and we could take a goal away that happened 100 yards before the goal. So like, I'm confused with how we're supposed to be allowed to use VAR.
Before you go down the path, though, of talking about the replay, if I can just make the point further on how two yellow cards become a red. I don't care how you get to the red. The red involves you being out of your— out of the game and the best player being out of the game for your country. Uh, I don't care how it is that you arrive at, yes, he deserved the second yellow. We all understand in the NBA If the star player has 5 fouls, the 6th one can't be for flopping. Like, we all understand that the stakes become so high in some of these circumstances that the entertainment value of what we're talking about— the rules can't be applied the same at all points because you can't create that much of a disadvantage over something that is, um, you know, it's It's happened all over the field to everybody except Argentina. Somehow Argentina doesn't get any of these double yellows.
It's not as visceral as Zidane headbutting Materazzi in the chest, but you just can't do what that player did in that spot, especially if you're carrying a yellow. You cannot flop that egregiously.
He was so sad. He was hysterical crying. I felt bad for him.
I don't understand what's supposed to happen. So we stop the game for 3 minutes, we take a look at VAR to see if there was a foul there, because if he did get contact That, that, that's an important moment in the game, right? So we see that this guy faked it and we just throw our hands up and say, "No, play on." No, we're trying to eradicate the flopping in the sport.
I hate the, "Let's check if this is a foul. Oh, it's not, but that happened on the same play, so we're gonna call that instead." I don't like that.
That, yeah, that's a fundamental issue that people have with VAR is that it's not doing what it was intended. And you mentioned the cable. The ball has data trackers in it. They have to charge that soccer ball before. They can obviously tell if it hits something.
They say it didn't.
They—
I saw the clip. I can't— I can't really tell. I certainly wasn't able to tell being at the match, but I did love Zlatan's quote on the matter that if the ball did hit the cable, then the cable had a better first half than Madueke.
Good line.
The, uh, the aforementioned Jude Bellingham, who I called Jude, uh, Bellingham. How about Jude Bellingham? The, uh, excuse I'm going to file is that I am disoriented from the sheer amount of people in my city who break out in "Hey Jude" at all points over the last couple of weeks because it is being sung so much. There are two songs that the English are singing more than any other. The English are, uh, they have done worlds for the economies that they come and they just drink everyone dry. And they sing the same songs. I understand Hey Jude. I don't understand Wonderwall.
They love Oasis.
But, but it's just Wonderwall. It's just a good tune. Okay, but yes, but what does it have to do? What does it have to— Hey Jude is the, is the guy who keeps score, one of the guys who keeps scoring for you. So you're singing, you're serenading one of the guys. Wonderwall, this sung just because it's a good tune? It's a good tune by Oasis, a famous English band.
Yeah, it's part of the classic English songbook, the same reason why we sing Sweet Caroline when we're happy.
But they're not— but, but they're— so, so that's their Sweet Caroline, you're saying? So put it on the poll at Levittard Show: is Wonderwall for the English what Sweet Caroline is for Americans?
FIFA in recent World Cups has introduced two different things: a goal song for France, for example, when they score a goal, they play Daft Punk's One More Time, which is just an electric moment. But every team also has a victory song after they win. And Wonderwall was, I believe, dedicated to be their victory song.
I like it.
But it's something that they would have sang either way. It's a great unifying thing, especially in England, where you have all these different passionate fan bases that under normal instances might hate a player like Reece James. But when he puts on that shirt, He's one of us. So you have a song that brings everybody together.
Chris, would you do me a favor, please, and look up for me the lyrics of Wonderwall? Because they don't make any sense. And I want to understand what any of the lyrics to Wonderwall mean. And I don't understand what any of the lyrics to Wonderwall mean.
Today is going to be the day that they're going to throw it back to you. By now, you should have somehow realized what you got to do. I don't believe that anybody feels the way I do about you now.
That's good lyrics.
Keep going.
I said the word is on the street and the fire in your heart is out. I'm sure you've heard it all before, but you never really had a doubt. I don't believe that anybody feels the way I do about you now. And all the roads we have to walk are winding, and all the lights that lead us there are blinding. There are many things that I would like to say to you, but I don't know how.
I said maybe you're gonna be the one that Saves my—
Also look up for me while you're at it, Jeremy, the details involving Alfred Oglesby's abduction, because this is another local story that has teammates beating up a teammate, and I need to— I don't— What details do you remember here, Zaslo, about Alfred Oglesby and what his teammates—
I have no idea what you're talking about.
Okay, Alfred Oglesby. Do any of you know what I'm talking about here? The former interior defensive lineman?
He was going to be late to practice, so he lied saying that he was kidnapped and Don Shula cut him anyway. Didn't O.J. McDuffie have an incident?
Oh, that's a good one. Yes. Yeah. Well, yeah, that's a good— well, O.J. McDuffie had an incident with— yes, with Darrell Gardner. Do you not know this story? I don't think so.
I cannot imagine one in the smoke with Darrell Gardner.
That, that dude. Yeah. You better be nice to Darrell Gardner.
His bald head had muscles.
He went on to become a weightlifter. He went on. He would— You know, he would travel with weights. Like, he would go take his— he would take his luggage and his luggage would have weights in it. And later in life, we should get a photograph of Darrell Gardner at this age because he's a competitive bodybuilder.
How are you a quarterback and you see right in the interior of the defense is Darrell Gardner and Tim Bowens?
Yeah, I thought Darrell Gardner would be better based on how it is that he physically looked because he was menacing. But O.J. McDuffie did not mind fighting people. In this particular case, he was mismatched by about £100. So he went to the parking lot to get his gun.
O.J. McDuffie, a solid answer to wanting to fight your coworkers in South Florida sports.
Yes, that's right. Then, yes, that's a good one. Yes, O.J. McDuffie is a good one. Let's go out to Tony now, who is allegedly trying out for the Heat, or he's finally gotten in the building. Tony, what kind of information do you have for us there? I can't believe you finally been, you finally got in. You've been trying to get in there to show everybody what you got for 5 years.
Yeah, Dan, the beautiful thing is I was over in summer league, obviously in Vegas this weekend. A lot of schmoozing, a lot of hobnobbing happens over there. Everybody told me the entire NBA world descends on Vegas for 3 weeks. And I was there able to talk to scouts, talk to people at the Heat. They finally gave me an invite to camp, Dan. So it's actually going on right now. I've been waiting for you guys to come get me because I gotta start warming up. I gotta start doing stuff. So let's go.
All right, so, okay, you're going now. Okay, he's going right now. All right, no, so he's gone. All right, so wait a minute.
Oh, come on, come on, come on, man.
He said camp.
Shooting heat camp.
They're working on dribbling right now.
Wait a minute, there's no one there over 9. Hold on a second, everyone there is under the age of 9.
These guys are— no, yeah, no, these guys over here are 14, I think.
Hey, Coach.
No, Fiorentino's there.
Oh, there's Glenn. Tell Glenn I say hey. G, tell Glenn I say what's up.
Hey, G Money, Zaz says what's up. Zazlo says what's up. He gave me the point.
I know, it's my dog.
What's up, baby?
Yeah, what's up, player?
He said, he says that's my dog. That's my dog.
He can't hear you.
He said good to see you.
That's got so—
working on here.
This is ridiculous. You're going to post some of those kids up. That's— you've got a size and weight advantage over them.
Good mentals, good mentals.
Oh, it's Tommy Tighe.
You guys going or what? Let's go, let's go!
Huh?
Yeah, something like that.
Huh?
All right, we will, uh, we will check back in. We will check back in with Tony in a little bit. Uh, thank you, Tony.
We said camp.
We appreciate— yeah, I did say camp. You're right. So he's joined the— he's joined He's in line. He is in line. He's in line to dribble. He's in line. He's going to show them what he's got. I'm sure this will make Billy Gill appreciate a little bit more all of Tony's skills now that he is at camp with a bunch of 8-year-olds.
Oh, that made my day. Now, it's a great day now.
Because Glenn Rice acknowledged you and you started trying to talk to him and then called him playa.
That's right.
In a way that made me uncomfortable.
Clearly couldn't hear you.
And he obviously couldn't hear you.
And you were just shouting at him.
It was— What's up? Player, it's like talking to my father's ear on FaceTime. Like, he doesn't know how any of it works. Zaslo does.
That made me happy.
Yeah, I can tell you're beaming.
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Dan Levitar.
I don't think it's strange for me, but like—
Mike Ryan. Oh boy. This is the Dan Levitar Show.
I want to talk for a minute because Tony brought this to me. He brought this feeling to me that I'm about to address with you and the audience. If If you decided to pay to watch UFC this weekend, you deserve to have your money stolen because you're a sucker. If you thought that Conor McGregor was gonna do anything after 5 years of not fighting, 5 years of not winning a fight, and just on the fumes of his name was going to do anything, you deserve to have your money taken by others easily because you're a sucker. Sucker. It's, it's something that you need to look in the mirror on and see that you are captivated by fame, noise, and nonsense and don't deserve to have that money. That money should be taken from you by somebody who deserves it more because you are somebody who thinks that a mouth is what it takes to fight.
Do you deserve to have your money taken more because you're a sucker if you paid for this more for the Conor McGregor fight or for the Rousey-Corral fight?
There's, there's a whole bunch of stuff, and typically I'd agree. I feel bad for the people that bought a ticket to go, but the UFC famously recently changed their business model. All you have to do is subscribe to Paramount Plus and you get all the fights.
No, but wait a minute. But that— yes, you say that, but the reason Paramount Plus made that investment is because of the sheer number of people who will go and pay for it to just watch one thing. Like, it's why the reason that UFC is worth so much to these streamers is because it's the rare thing that you can put on your streaming service and people will pay a one-time fee because they want to watch that one fight and don't care about anything else that you've got. It's how Paramount+ is going after young people. It's how UFC's business model keeps getting bigger.
I'll push back hard on this. There is zero shame in wanting to see the biggest UFC attraction of all time 5 years after you last saw him. Fight in the octagon.
Okay, so you deserve— he didn't, you didn't get to.
No, I think, I think like the main talking point about this is did he come into that fight carrying an injury, and if that's the case, that's bullshit.
You deserve that too. You deserve that too. He's shown you nothing in 5 years, and he's gonna get your money again next time. He's gonna get it again the next time he does this because he's just a mouth, and he's been just a mouth for 5 years. You deserve someone who's addled by cocaine, steroids, and whiskey, allegedly, not fighting for 5 years, not winning for 5 years, and then having that happen. He's famous and nothing else. He does— he's done movies more successfully than fight recently.
Dan, how about Max Holloway in the center of the ring after the fight yelling to everybody in the crowd, "Hey, let's do it again. Let's do number 3. Let's get that money." I mean, shit.
Well, he also pitied Conor McGregor by saying he was a wounded dog. "I didn't want to do anything to him in front of his kids. His kids were here. I didn't want to do that in front of his kids." People will pay again. People will pay again to see his next fight because that's what we've turned all of these combat sports into. When, when you open the door on what it is that Jake Paul has successfully done, this is what you've wrought. This game is already corrupted sewage, okay? The game, the business of this is already contaminated. Now when you just make it the famous people and you make the currency not fighting, not merit, in the most meritorious of the sports, by the way. Not merit. If you just make it fame, this is what you get for your dollar.
I, I don't— I think you're personalizing this one because you're not keeping the same energy when Tyson's fighting Jake Paul. You famously were like super into that.
But Mike, that is the circus. That's not an actual fight. That was just entertainment spectacle. That wasn't anything that's actually legislated in a way that's a legitimate sports league.
He got He got hurt, which is something that bodies do when you inject all sorts of stuff into it. Because last couple of fights that we've seen from him, his body is very clearly breaking down and it's buyer beware. But I— miss me with all that. He's the greatest UFC attraction of all time. He's not that far removed from it. He was in spectacular shape. It would have been a fun fight had he not been injured. It's embarrassing for Conor. He deserves to be taken way less seriously the next time, but miss me with like making people feel bad or ashamed. There is— forget, like, this is not circus-like curiosity. This is one of the GOATs of all time in the UFC again, and he looked like he was in phenomenal shape, but he might have been carrying an injury.
He has not been one of the GOATs of all time in this decade.
And yet you were right there for Jake Paul and Mike Tyson. I don't get it. I think it's just because of the promotion and Conor that you're keeping this energy.
I—
nope.
Well, that's fine. You made that— now you've made that accusation twice, as if I'm not discerning, as if I'm the fool for not paying for it. The one was a circus. The other one's a spent fighter approaching 39 who hasn't won a fight in 5 years and has had nothing but trouble, and on top of that is a rapist.
Yeah, no, he's a bad dude. He also came into this fight as the favorite.
No, that's not true.
No, he was a heavy dog.
No, no, no, no, no, the line changed. Yeah, like there was— there was right before the fight, there was crazy line movement.
That is true, that is true. I want, I want to talk about that, but, but I thought, I thought the line opened where he was like +400, and then I saw the graphic on the screen a little before the fight, he was +280. Are you telling me it moved even from that?
I hopped on, on DraftKings Sports, and he had like reportedly 80% of the action was on him. I hopped on the app to, to include Holloway in a, in a combo later on. And by that time, I was surprised, like, ah, Holloway's -200 here. There was very curious line movement with this one.
Well, yeah, and to that point, Dan, there, there's a lot of people out there who are trying to connect dots that he had this injury in camp and that people knew he had this injury, but the fight had to go on because of all the partners and the gambling and the money involved. And that's a pretty big deal if that turns out to be true.
You'll never know because his coach, among others, says he was fine and that they have practiced all of that many times over in, in the lead-up to this fight. Some of you are going to point out correctly that Mike Tyson is also a convicted criminal rapist as opposed to civilly. The details on Conor McGregor are brutal as it relates to that case, and an assortment of other stuff that make it so that the only way that your accusation can resonate with me, Mike, on it being personal is I used to love that sport. And that what they put on that, the questions about whether he was hurt from the very beginning, the fact that the best they can do with their stardom is a guy who was famous 5 years ago for things done before that. That he hasn't fought for 5 years and that the headliner is coming out and can't physically do anything when all you know about Conor McGregor over the last 5 years is, is it the steroids, is it the coke, or is it the whiskey? Which is it? Because of how he's been polluting himself since he was the greatest.
I think all that stuff is super fair, so why even attempt to mask it? I think that's very clearly what's going on here, and you have every right as someone that used to love the UFC for their actions to absolutely tee off on them for how that played out. But let's just say what it is.
What it is is he's 1-5 since 2017. Like, like, stop bringing this person to me. And they're going to do it again. They're going to do it again because he sells fights well. And I've said he's the best talker since Ali. But 1-5 since 2017, when your 30s for a fighter is not your prime, like 1-5 since 2017. You deserve to have your money taken from you. However it is, whatever you expected from that fight. Brendan Tobin pointed out you got more punches in Vegas from Bam Adebayo than you did from Conor McGregor.
That's true.
Dan Levitar.
Ahoy, it's Captain Slappy.
Jonathan Sasselow.
Is this Chum Bucket?
This is the Dan Levitar Show. I think people are well within their rights to be upset how they've played out. There's, you know, this is all circumstantial, but people are pointing to how his entrance, getting to the ring and how he took off his shoes. I think that if there's any truth to what some people are pointing out, and again, these are all conspiracy theories, and I hate that everything is a conspiracy theory, especially in a combat sport. People can get hurt. It's a pretty gnarly sport. But there are a lot of people saying something wasn't right here, pointing to the market price changes, pointing to the entrance there, pointing to how it played out. And I get that. Like, I want to make sure that these things are done on merit. A washed fighter getting hurt, considering everything that it looks like he's pumped into his body, is not that surprising to me. And I think it's buyer beware. I didn't end up watching this fight, but I don't think this is like the circus-like curiosity that maybe Dan is making it out to be. I think if he's healthy, there is sincere interest in seeing if this guy who is allegedly saying— well, he's definitely saying he's cleaned up his image.
All right, I'm interested in seeing a cleaned-up Conor McGregor, whether I believe him or not. Let's see how this plays out. You've picked this fighter that you think can give him a good fight, and let's see if there's any more money to squeeze out of this guy one last time. Can he get us excited? Now, never gonna be fooled again with this guy. I wasn't even fooled this time. I was doing other things. But I, I, I get the anger, but I think it's about just the UFC's approach as a whole rather than this one specific instance.
My favorite part of the whole UFC night was how mad Dana White got when they showed Shakur Stevenson and called him Jalen Williams. It was just so good. They, they showed Jalen— they show Shakur Stevenson, and apparently Dana White, he spoke after this. I actually want to let him say it.
I just paid Shakur Stevenson a shitload of money, and for some reason we can't figure this celebrity shit out. They put him up as a fucking OKC NBA player. Are you Fucking kidding me? I mean, it's just, it's absolutely crazy, but we are the absolute worst to ever do the celebrity thing. When we put celebrities up, we are the worst. I just had this fucking debate in the back with my guys while I was screaming at everybody back there, and they said, no, soccer's worse. Soccer shows the people and they don't, they don't put up any, uh, graphics. Oh no, we put up fucking graphics and put the wrong guy's name on it. We win. We're the worst. Ever to fucking do it.
You know why? You know why Chris likes this, right? You know why Chris pointed this out, right? Because when you get mad at him for the mistakes he makes—
other shows don't make these mistakes.
Aha!
I've seen me on Saturday night. I was like, aha!
Oh, thank God we're UFC.
I'm enjoying the idea of a rabid nuclear shade of red. Dana White really embarrassed. Like, red because he's angry. Red because he's embarrassed. Yelling at his people, "We're the worst," and them going, "No, soccer is." That's exactly what you would do.
They don't put the name.
It would be like arguing with you. You're like, "Yeah, yeah, I'm not bad.
Someone's worse." I'm not here to tout FIFA, but you don't really need a nameplate for Brad Pitt.
The rage of Dana White. Another reason all of that is so valuable is because they do all of their own production. They don't require any of these entities that are paying them— don't have to do anything other than provide the platform. UFC is the rarest of thing where they're making all of their own content and hiring all of their own people to make the content. And so I understand why it is that he gets that upset. But, um, when Mike Ryan accuses me of being biased here and making it personal, people who were ripped off here have a right to feel ripped off and also can't surprised that they were ripped off given the facts that I just gave you. My— if you're saying that it's personal, it's personal because of how mad I am at Tony for falling for this. Like, he should know better. He, he knows what he's dealing with there, and he's falling for the shiny object, the sparkles and stuff, just because Conor McGregor's a name.
On the livestream, Tony's reacting to them calling the fight while picking at a massive plate of grapes.
It was a bad look, and I think consumers are going to use it for, for I do. I think they'll probably be more discerning the next time they trot something out like this.
I don't think so. I think it's going to be the same thing. We didn't see him fight. Like, to me, this is both the worst result and the best result for Conor because he was going to get his ass kicked.
I don't understand. You think so? Yeah.
Well, I just don't understand how— explain to me where and how the line moved because the last time I had seen it, Holloway was minus like 300 or—
That's a bigger price than I saw, you know, in the afternoon. When, when I tried to get in. A professional fighter gets hurt. It happens, you know, I, I— it's happened a lot with this guy. His body seems to be breaking down from how he's approached his life. And I think you got to be discerning there. But the whole like circus and, and you deserve what you get. This is different, guys. This is the greatest UFC draw ever returning, claiming that he's found a whole new life. And that he has cleaned himself up and he's all about the fighting with a hand-picked opponent, I do understand the curiosity factor here. I do.
That's why— well, I mean, it is a huge deal if we learn that something happened in the dressing room, something happened pre-fight. That's why the line shifted like it did minutes before the fight and they kept it under wraps. That's FBI shit.
So are we happier if a half hour before the fight it's just canceled?
No, but still, but there's fraud that's being perpetrated there if they know that there is an injury and they don't tell anyone. No, I'm glad the fight happened, but that's fraud.
But what, what Mike is saying here, and it happens— no, in my history watching sports, a guy who's 1-5 in the last 9 years doesn't get to be the main bankable star. Anymore. No, not in the merit sports. It doesn't actually happen. Not 1 in 5 since 2017. Like, it fades. It's not merely not fighting, it's the last time we saw him fight, all he did was lose.
You don't want to see Paddy the Baddy beat the shit out of him? Because I do.
I know, like, I tuned in, Dan, because like in the past I tuned in because, oh, Conor McGregor is fun, like, I want to watch him fight, he's awesome, I hope he wins. I tuned in on Saturday night like I wanted to see him get knocked out.
This is the—
that's why I was watching.
Yeah, this is the life cycle of the once great fighter that might appear to be a can and washed up. You see if you can squeeze out a little bit more money from him.
But he's a piece of shit and I wanted to see him get knocked out.
You clearly can't trust him to main event anymore, like on a merit-based level, so now you feed him to the next guy and he puts over the next generation. Go on your way.
Isn't the last time he fought, didn't Joe Rogan have to sit down on the mat to interview him?
Yes, get his leg in an air cast.
Let's just— I cannot wait for you guys to spend this money to watch him when they wheel out his coffin 10 years after his death to see if they can also get some money off of that.
I mean, am I still a monthly subscriber to Paramount? Because if so, I'm paying anyway. It's not that big a deal.
Yeah, the model has changed. Wow. Some confetti from— what acquisition was that? Was that the DraftKings announcement confetti that just came down there? Amazing.
Always fun when that happens.
Yeah.
Buyer beware. It's all data. Fool me once, okay, fool me twice, alright, you're gonna fool me 6 times. 'Cause if it's on at a bar, I'm gonna watch.
I just, I don't understand why Dana White has to lie about everything. Like, I understand—
He's a promoter.
Okay, but, but why would you lie about things that can be immediately checked? Like, I'm watching the broadcast, I'm watching the lead-up to the fight, and Dana White is up there on the panel, and he starts talking about how excited the town is, and here he is.
Listen, this is the Conor McGregor effect. I was just telling these guys before before we went on air, one of the soccer teams, the owner is in town. Him and his wife said, you know what, let's go to the fight. They said there's not a hotel room in the city. You can't even get hotel rooms.
Okay, I'm like, no effing way. And so myself, I went on to Expedia myself. I'm talking, it's 8 PM. Can I get a room tonight in Vegas? It's 8 PM. Dan, every hotel had availability.
You were doing journalism?
Yeah.
A promoter lied?
Okay, but like, I can prove the lie within seconds. What's the point in that kind of lie?
Well, Dana White clearly hasn't been rewarded in any way for the way he is.
Go on.
It is just crazy. I'm with Zazz on this. Like, every hotel has availability.
In my hand, I decided, let me see if this person is lying to us.
It'd be one thing if like a couple places had a couple. I would almost give that as a victory. For Dana White, if there were only a smattering of hotels, but it's every hotel.
Every hotel had availability if I wanted to show up right now.
Did you see Paddy the Baddy's reaction to the news? Like, he was getting interviewed and he found out, he's like, "Well, guess I'm the face now. So great. Yeah, let's have one more fight because I'll absolutely be watching that." I like him. I don't care, don't stop the fight, Herb. If he gets hurt, you just let this one ride.
I don't generally like almost anything about business. And over the last 5 years, I have met a great deal of business people. And I will say that lying is almost a part of how it is business is done where there aren't laws. Like, it's not even considered an immorality in some of the places. It's just negotiating or it's just promoting.
Yeah.
There are some people who insist in business on being ethical. They're usually the people who get their business stolen by the others who aren't. It's just, uh, that— and that— and that business— if you gave me all of sports and all of sports history, who are the biggest liars? Agents are second. Those guys are first. The fighting sports, The promoters in the fighting sports are number one on my list on every syllable has to be fact-checked because they don't care how much they're lying to you. They'll just call it promotion. They'll— it's just a part of— I mean, is it surprising to you that in the age of misinformation, this particular person would say something and just drown you? Go ahead, fact-check me. Go ahead, fact-check me. The president of the United States is there. He just— he drowns you with so much scandal and so many lies that you can't even keep up on the fact checks. You can't do it in the debates, you can't do it in the interviews. It's just so much, it's just such an avalanche of lies. And then he just gets up and his constituency, this is the thing about lying this way, you don't care about the people who you've lost because they think you're a liar.
You care about the one you gain because they believed the lie. Like you're just gathering more and more people by saying it's just such a huge event. Every event is the biggest event we've ever done.
The answer is Omnia. Naive. Like, that's the only answer, right? Is that I'm naive to think that he's not just gonna go on my television and blatantly lie to my face.
Here's the Paddy reacting to Conor injury live.
The new boy is in town. The main man's here. I want to be— I can become the face of the organization now. But yeah, great team. What a performance from me. Don't want to blow smoke up my own ass, but what a performance.
So according to the LA Times, Oglesby of the Dolphins admitted that he made up a story about being kidnapped. He said that armed men abandoned him in the Everglades and he had to walk most of the way back to training camp. But after a police interview, they learned that he had taken Richardman Webb's car, left training camp, fell asleep at a friend's house, and then they found the friend and said car in a, quote, crime-ridden area of the city.
That's my dog.
"What's up, playa?"
We would sing 'Hey Jude,' but The Beatles are litigious, so we're doing Wonderwall instead. We've got Mike's World Cup updates, Dan's frustration with UFC selling a broken Conor McGregor, and Tony heading to the Kaseya Center for a workout with the Miami Heat Camp.
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