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What has Stone Cold been up to?

Oh, the saga of Poncho and Steve.

It's so funny because Stone Cold Steve Austin is a— he's a cat person, apparently. He's a cat guy. No one would have expected— okay, you're raising your hands like that, Dom, because you're clearly a cat guy.

I mean, I've been disrespected around here.

Another strike.

Yeah, I'm a cat guy.

Snake guy, cat guy, jackass guy.

Bet you won't say it to Stone Cold's face.

Now there is a difference though between being a cat guy who, like, you prefer cats over dogs and just being someone who likes cats. Those are two different things.

No, the truth of the matter is I'd rather have a dog, but my wife is allergic to dogs and also I have young kids and kids don't take care of dogs. I don't need another responsibility. Cat takes care of itself. Stay close to you. Austin's got it figured out.

I love cats.

See, like, I will tell you, no one is surprised at that.

So nobody is surprised.

I would tell you, I, I'm— I like dogs over cats.

I—

also not surprising.

I have two dogs, but, but I do like cats. Like, I would have a cat.

You don't like them enough.

I like—

I'm—

I, I would, I would have a cat. My wife hates cats. Oh, she thinks they're the devil. So she refuses to have a cat in the house.

My best friend Marcus Spears said of my cat and general cats, he doesn't like cats either, I can't trust anything that could sneak up on me.

Swagu's your best friend? Best friend. Wow.

So it's weird because— Or one of your best friends. No, we were, it's a joke between he and I where a couple years ago we were laughing about how we aren't great friends to people and we decided that grown men don't have best friends. Like, you know what, best friend. And so whenever we introduce each other, like, this is my best friend Marcus Spears, it's my best friend Dominique Foxworth. So go to Marcus, ask him who his best friend is, he'll say me, and then he'll laugh. He doesn't like cats because they sneak up on you. And I was like, yeah, fair point. Anything that can sneak up on you, can't trust it. You don't hear them, and they're explosive athletes. Like, it's crazy, they just bounce all around the house.

One of my parents' cats, like, me and him just— we didn't— we had an understanding. We're not gonna— I'm never gonna pick you up I might like scratch the top of your head once a year. But towards the end of this cat's life, he would just start shitting in my bathroom.

A cat!

On like the carpet.

I'm telling you, these things—

Not the toilet, 'cause they have some of those cats.

These things are vindictive. Like, I'm telling you, this wasn't just, "Oh, I'm old, I'm shitting." Like, he's like, "I'm gonna go shit in his bathroom on the carpet." Hold on a second.

You little motherfucker! Hold on a second. When you say there are those cats who will shit in the toilets, I know we—

I meant the litter box, I'm sorry.

I know we saw that.

Some cats do do that.

No, no, I think Mike is talking about there are cats who shit in the toilets. Jinxie. Like, there is that scene with Jinxie Cat where Jinxie is taking a shit and, and, and, and Gay Focker, he opens up the door and he's like, oh, excuse me. And then he realized, wait, why is the cat taking a shit in the toilet? You're telling me that's a real thing?

Yeah, that's a real thing.

There are some cats who are trained to do that.

Plenty of GIFs out there on the internet. I mean, it's a real—

I think that it's, you like, just move the litter box. Is the strategy. You move the litter box closer and closer to the toilet until you put it on the toilet, then you put it in the toilet, and then the cat—

It's a lot of work for you picking up their shit to move it around in different places.

Look how well-versed my man is at training cats how to shit in a toilet. Who knew?

Do you do that?

No, no, no, no.

Why not?

Well, mostly because I want to make my kids do something. It's like, that's something that easy they can do, and I can check quickly and get mad at them daily for when they don't do it.

I have my daughter feeding my dog. Yeah, like, this is your chore.

Yeah.

In the morning and in the evening.

I started having my son, like, he forgets things. So it's like, in the morning, every morning, I need you to write down the 5 things that you need to accomplish today. Write them down, get them done. And we're going on 2 weeks now. Haven't gotten all 5 done yet. We get— he writes them down, gets 3, maybe 4. I think he's intentionally holding off on the 5th thing.

He's shooting 80%. Like, what do you want him to do?

Hundo, baby, hundo. They're not hard things. I'm not like, build a house.

Yeah, sure. Okay, sure. Speaking of house, I got a situation on my house. I have a shed in the backyard that's like a lifted shed so things can get underneath it.

No, I got a wildcat situation.

I've got— we had one, we had one cat, right? We had one cat that was there. It's an orange cat, skinny cat, kind of like, you know, a cat that you look at and be like, I don't want that guy around me. Like, I don't know what he's up to, right? The good news is there's no rats, there's no mice, there's no rodents, there's no snakes, there's nothing in my yard. 'cause he's kind of the defender of the house. So, the other day, I'm with my daughter, we're looking out at the pool, I'm at the sliding glass door, I look over, and I see something moving in the, in kind of like the area of the shed, and I kind of look real close, 3 kittens pop out.

Yeah.

From underneath the shed, they're like this big, they're like literally a hand, like a size of a hand. And I'm like, oh shit, what do I do with these cats? And the mom cat came out, so now I've got 5 cats living underneath the shed of my house, and I cannot feed them, I cannot give them water whatsoever, They have to leave. I don't know how to evict them, though. They don't pay rent under my shed.

You got to get them adopted. You want to come over?

You can't say out loud what you need to do.

You get them adopted.

You have a squatter situation.

I do.

A cat squatter.

Jeremy got a little euphemism. Yeah, yeah. Get them adopted. Winky winky.

No, get them adopted.

Yeah, I'll adopt them.

Just take a little picture.

They're adorable.

Someone will adopt them.

Picture?

No, I don't want to get too close because the cat's kind of mean. It's got like a scar on the back of its head. Like he's been through some shit.

Animal control doesn't take him to a happy place.

Definitely not.

In my—

in my parents' neighborhood, they like caught all the stray cats and fixed them and then re-released them into the neighborhood so that they can still be neighborhood. My mother-in-law's doing multiply.

They're killing these cats when you're like, hey, I have cats.

Yeah, no, they're not. They're getting them to a happy place. It's a ranch. It's a cat ranch. Cats love ranches. They take them to a cat ranch and they—

yeah, they're taking them to a shelter. They're not killing them on the spot.

No, no, that's not on the spot.

That's what the kitty ranch is.

Well, to answer your questions, as about what's going on with Stone Cold Steve Austin and his cats, his cats gave him a Father's Day present.

Oh wow.

Would you like to watch video and hear sound of that?

Yeah.

Check this out. A bucket of beer on ice and a letter. Dad, you're the best dad in the world. Happy Father's Day. P.S. We wanted to get you a card, but Mom would not let us take the car into town. Love, Poncho and Macho. God dang it, if I wasn't the toughest son of a bitch in the world, I'd start crying like a baby. These cats, they never cease to amaze me. And they put this in my chair. It's where I sit when I'm with them. Poncho, you little motherfucker. You're the best cat in the world. Oh, look at him. I love it, buddy. I love it. Poncho!

Goddamn it!

Poncho!

Like 80% sure he knows that the cats didn't actually write that letter, but there is that 20%.

Strong cats. They lift up the ice bucket, put it on a chair.

Ah, it's good. That's good stuff.

I could watch that guy do about anything at this point.

He's the best.

And I mean anything.

Oh baby, the voice, the voice is great. He's a cat guy.

He's a cat guy.

So is Jalen Brown, by the way. He tweeted it last night. I love cats. And speaking of, apparently the Minnesota Timberwolves checked in on Jaylen Brown but decided to go with LaMelo. This is per Jon Krasinski, who covers the Timberwolves. He said the Wolves did have discussion with the Celtics on Jaylen Brown as well, sources told The Athletic, but they saw LaMelo Ball as fitting more of what they needed for likely less compensation going out.

Give us the details on who they discussed for Jaylen Brown, because Anthony Edwards didn't ask for any of this. So they definitely dangled somebody of worth over there to, to Boston.

I mean, it would have been Jayden McDaniels.

Well, let's get him upset. I'm all for people being upset, especially now as a destination once again.

It might have just been the Nas Reid thing. They might have just shopped the same Nas Reid deal and realized that they couldn't get Jaylen Brown with it. So then they took it down to the Queen City and was like, give me LaMelo.

Buzz City, don't ruin the fun.

I know they may have dangled Anthony Edwards.

Yeah, I think, I think, and Rudy Gobert.

Yeah.

I think you're right.

Probably the whole team.

Maybe they— maybe Boston countered and was like, well, how about Jason Tatum? Oh, you know, that could happen. Let's just make—

you want to report it? You can't rule it out. You cannot rule out that Boston offered Jason Tatum to the Minnesota Timberwolves. I'm looking right into the camera when I say this. You cannot rule out based off of this report that Jason Tatum was offered by the Boston Celtics to the Minnesota Timberwolves.

Can't rule it out.

That's good work out of you.

Can't rule it out.

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Yo, so I want to bring your attention to something. It's actually a couple of things that took place yesterday. Let me take you to the world of the WNBA. That's right, I'm going to take you to the WNBA here, Dominique. Now I'm not going to sit here and tell you that I'm this big WNBA fan, but I will tell you that because, you know, I, I also work at ESPN, I'm very aware of what's going on with the WNBA, when in past years I wouldn't have paid any attention.

Not because you love basketball or respect women. It's just because you work at ESPN, but cool, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, there are some things that I do like about the WNBA, but for the most part, like, the league can kind of be a lightning rod with certain stories, alright? And so I do pay attention, I do know what's going on, and Yesterday, let me start off by showing you this here. And for the audio audience, I will tell you there was a poster that was released yesterday, a 30-year commemorative WNBA poster. And every team is represented on this poster. And it's either an all-time great who played for that team. Like you could see the Minnesota Lynx, Maya Moore is right.

Legends got to have legends on there.

And if it's not a legend, they're showing you a current player. Like you see the Dallas Wings right there. It's Paige Beckers. Well, also in the second row, go there is the Indiana Fever.

Oh yeah, they gotta have the biggest star that they've ever had in the history of the Fever and possibly in the history of the league, right?

You would think that they would put Caitlin Clark. No, it was Sophie Cunningham.

What?

That they put representing Indiana there. And I don't like to get caught up in all of the Caitlin Clark stuff because we're about to do it anyway. Well, well, because this one, I, I just, I think weird. I think it's weird where you are putting out a collector's item, right? Okay, something that you're, you're charging for, like, hey, buy this 30-year commemorative item. And how would you not have— like, I don't think every decision that's made, it, you know, needs to be Caitlin Clark everywhere. Caitlin Clark here, Caitlin Clark here. Like, it is okay to profile other players, obviously, but if we're talking about putting out something that you would like to get publicity and certainly like to earn money, is there any reasonable answer as to why Caitlin Clark would not be on the poster?

Well, I mean, I'm surprised also that they chose Sophie Cunningham because I would think that you could make the argument to the point that you made that it's a lightning rod league at times. Caitlin Clark is someone who garners strong opinions. So I would argue that maybe they wanted to be just more universal to get no pushback. But you don't choose Sophie Cunningham if that's who you want to put on there. But there's also the potential—

she's not a star. Star. Like, okay, she's got her podcast and she's kind of like a tough guy, you know. So in that sense, she's become a known player, but in, in no way, shape, or form is she a star player.

And she's, and she's also kind of outspoken in ways that I think would push people, uh, push people away. But I think I would say that the only other option is that it's possible that Caitlin Clark, who is an enormous star and has lots of value, is like, maybe I don't want to be on this poster. I like, I don't know, you can't rule that out. As Jeremy taught me, I can always fall back on what you can't rule out. You can't rule out that potentially Caitlin Clark is like, nah, don't put me on this poster. I'm selling posters for much more than that. What is the compensation? Like, that's a chance, right?

I mean, if, if that were to come out, let's say it's true, that would be incredibly damning for Caitlin Clark that she doesn't want to be a part of something that is promoting the history of the league.

I'm just trying to find the, the way that this could be explained in a way where it's not a snub or it's not like anything that would upset people or feel like this league has turned on Caitlin Clark in a way. Because if I can understand, I remember the old video games, Michael Jordan wouldn't be in the game and it was because Michael Jordan was like, no, you pay me more than you pay for the group licensing agreement for all these other players because I'm not these other players. So it's possible that Caitlin Clark is like, I'm not these other players. Don't put me in this if you're going to be selling it. I can make a lot more money elsewhere in my post. Like, that's the best thing I come up with. Otherwise, it feels kind of awkward. And again, I'm not as much of a WNBA watcher or fan as you, but I do know that Caitlin Clark is a big star. And if you want to commemorate the history of the WNBA, the 30-year history, it's important. If you're picking one person from every team that you feel like represents that team in some way, it's hard for me to name very many, very many other players other than Caitlin Clark from the Fever.

I mean, if you're promoting your league, wouldn't you want— unless Dominique is right— if you're promoting your league, wouldn't you at every opportunity want to include Caitlin Clark?

Is that a— I know it's a poster. That doesn't seem like promotional material. I feel like I really got to love the W to buy that poster.

Right.

Was that a Miami Soul logo on it?

Yeah.

I don't know.

Yeah, first row in the middle. First row in the middle. Was that a Miami?

Did they have someone representing the Soul?

Because they— the Connecticut—

they have Ruth Riley. Was Ruth Riley there?

Connecticut Sun logo below it. So I think that they honored even the failed franchises.

Oh yeah, look up there. That is a Soul right up there at the top. But they didn't have a player representing the team. They just have the logo there up at the top. Okay, that's a good catch by you there, Mike. Excellent job.

Wait, Swoops was the, uh, the Houston Cop?

Yeah, yeah, they have Cheryl Swoops here.

I got a bigger beef with Cindy Cooper not being on this one.

Yeah, you can only pick one player from the team.

No, you see, you want to have this modern-day argument. Coop definitely deserves it more. Really? Yeah.

You got Shameka Holdskaw, I think that is, on the right there, you know, for the Liberty.

All right, you're showing off.

Yeah, you're doing too much.

So yesterday, that was not the only Caitlin Clark.

But me saying Paraguay, easy.

Yeah, I let you slide on that. You said it, it grabbed my ear.

I'm not changing.

I grabbed my ear.

Paraguay, it's fine.

I mean, if, if, if I gotta say Turkey, eh, Why can't I practice doing everything right?

You have some people going like, you're a gay. What?

Huh?

What?

So that wasn't the only Caitlin Clark story from yesterday.

It's not me.

So the Fever played last night, uh, and last night Caitlin Clark, all right, during the game it was, uh, you know, there was a scramble under the basket. They were playing Phoenix. Phoenix won the game last night. Game was in at Indiana., and underneath the basket, Caitlin Clark falls down. And for the video audience here, you could see the still image. Caitlin Clark is on her back underneath the basket, and Alyssa Thomas from Phoenix kind of falls on her. And you know that move, you especially see it in football, you know, like when you're getting up from a pile, you know, where like the defensive lineman will kind of push down on the running back as he's getting up for leverage. But it's like also kind of, hey, I'm also going to push you and make you really uncomfortable. And Alyssa Thomas does this to Caitlin Clark, except she does it with her fist in Caitlin Clark's neck. And, you know, you can't really make the excuse that she's just using her for leverage to get up because nobody gets up from the ground by using their fist, you know. So she's got her fist in Caitlin Clark's neck while she's getting up.

I mean, Dominique, it's, it's pretty egregious, right? Like, and no foul was called.

Yeah, I mean, I— this still image looks very bad. I saw the, um, the video this morning, um, it seemed unnecessary. The thing is, stuff like, like you mentioned, in football and honestly in basketball, like stuff like this happens in sports all the time. I'm careful because I made the point earlier that I don't watch a lot of WNBA. Big games, the finals, and when there are big matchups that are super hyped, I'll watch it. So I feel like my algorithm, and it might be true of yours and other people's, where my algorithm is right now feels like it's flooded with people going after Caitlin Clark in different ways. So I'm not sure if this is like an event that happens a lot more to her than anyone else, or it just so happens that she's a star, so we're getting a lot of it.

So like, I'm right.

It could be both.

I mean, I'm hesitant to like make grand proclamations. That play looked like it was a little bit intentional.

It looks bad. And then so the Phoenix Mercury Twitter account.

Yeah.

After the game. They tweeted out, uh, like, uh, um, well, I don't want to say anime, like a cartoon, uh, a cartoon sketch of Caitlin Clark on the ground crying on the ground, and the caption above it says, "Do you want a piece of this?" And Diwana Bonner also plays for Phoenix. Diwana Bonner is married to Alyssa Thomas, who is the one who, you know, kind of punched down on Caitlin Clark's throat. And it's like, that's getting really—

it's getting really hard for me to dance around this now.

That's a weird tweet.

I'm doing my dance. I can't really like that when the—

kind of like I danced earlier.

Yeah, yeah, just exactly like that. The organization tweeting something like that out, it's really uncool.

That's weird that they tweeted that out.

And yeah, Tony, it's like when Ndamukong Suh stepped on the ankle or whoever it was of the Packers player. Yeah, on his calf or whatever.

Yeah.

—And then the Lions send it out like, "Hey, watch your step." —Yeah, exactly.

It's exactly what it's like. It's really weird. There's this flagrant moment from the game last night which may have been intentionally hostile. It went uncalled, and the team is making fun of the player who took a fist to the throat. It's strange. And then after the game, Stephanie White, who is the coach of the Indiana Fever, Here she was postgame. And then number 2, you're coming in here aware of what happened 2 nights ago and that shit still happens. Absolutely unacceptable. Absolutely unacceptable. And the reckless closeout that they actually reviewed and the foot still comes down on top of the defender's foot that wasn't upgraded. Absolutely disrespectful. We have a generational talent. And a WNBA superstar who had two cheap shots right there that weren't called.

And I just say again, absolutely unacceptable.

It's a weird league, man.

Yeah. I mean, it's the superstars. We saw it happen in, um, to the Alien in the Finals. Like, you're going to be a star player, you're going to get some of these things. So like, I, I don't want to pretend like it's that's somehow unique to this sport and to this player.

But like, you weren't getting this, you know, starting with Victor Wembanyama's rookie year. Like, it had been like if NBA players, like, like they weren't trying to take out the hyped-up rookie in Victor Wembanyama. Like, now they're just doing things to him that, you know, you do to any player, right?

I mean, no, they go above and beyond to Victor. Like, and Victor has fought back and throws elbows and does those things. I think that's one of the things that we all have to, like, be aware of is, like, treat it like a regular sport.. And some of the stuff is dirty and that happens in sports sometimes. So like, I, I don't know. I am— I think it's important to follow. It's something that we care about when there are big games and big moments. But you also have to like acknowledge that we ain't steeped in it in a way that to completely understand it, you know.

On social, there are some people trying to insinuate that the tweet was not intended for Caitlin Clark.

The jersey in the photo is purple.

Yeah. And Diwana Bonner did hit an and-one in their game and, and fell to the ground. This is the photo.

Does she wear the same number as Caitlin Clark?

22 should depict, uh, I mean, I can look for that for you because that would be important.

Caitlin Clark is 22.

We're gonna pull the tweet up again.

And Caitlin Clark's got the ponytail, which is in the picture.

Where's 24 according to Google?

Does the picture say 22 or does the picture say 24? Let's see. I can't— kind of hard to tell. Is, is Dawana Bonner 24? 24. And does the— is the— is that a 22, Dominique, or a 24? Yeah, 24. Oh, this is important.

We were wrong. Yep.

I mean, we don't know. Like, I, I don't know the answer.

I think it's a 4. Yeah, that's a 4. I think it's a— that's a 4.

All right, way to go. Congratulations, everyone.

Okay, hey, we got it right at the end.

We avoided big Thank you, Lewis.

Good job, Jeremy.

We avoided the big controversy.

All right, the Florida Panthers have traded a 2026 5th round pick and a 2027 4th round pick.

Don't get too excited about this trade, Roy.

Um, for Gunnar Hathaway of the Philadelphia Flyers and a 2026 6th round pick.

So the Panthers have themselves a 4th line winger. Now I know what you're asking, why is Roy telling me this? This could be a move before the move. Okay. Yep. You know, this, this could get the wheels in motion for Evan Rodriguez being traded, which is widely expected.

Okay, so what happened here? Because like, I was very distracted at how unenthused Roy was about this trade.

Well, it's not just that. It was also a player that most people have never heard of in their entire lives. But Philadelphia is retaining 50% of that salary too, by the way. But the reason why this may be newsworthy, and I'm not arguing its merit, I'm just defending my boy Roy here. It could be a move before the move. Okay. All right. Well, a move before the other move.

The move that we're hoping is Connor Hellebuck.

We're hoping it's Connor Hellebuck.

Yeah. What kind of number is he gonna bring in? Because obviously you guys have been talking about Bob, who—

Hellebuck?

3 for 42. He makes over $8 million a year.

Is it comparable where it's like, why not get this guy? Or do you want to just like sign the guy that you've already had?

No, you want Hellebuck because he's younger and better. Are you, are you not a proud American? Did you not see what he did?

I know I'm saying, but it's harder to get him because he's got a no-trade clause.

Oh, no, but he appears to be trying to move himself to Florida.

The confusing part for me is why they would give him up for only like an Evan Rodriguez and a Boquist, like two bottom-six guys. Why would they? I get it from our perspective, but why would they do that?

Leverage. Right now he's a disgruntled superstar. And what's happening with the American stars— I mean, it's hard to believe in Canadian franchises post-gold medal game. Yep. Is— oh, something worth looking at. Yep. A lot is— a lot of the reports were, man, Brady Tkachuk's behavior changed after the gold medal game. And I understand it, especially for a guy that has for years openly discussed this with his family. Let's get real. But the change isn't just on Brady Tkachuk's end. And it's certainly not just on Connor Hellebuck's end. He just played well in a goal—

or Auston Matthews for that matter.

There is something going on with the Canadian fan bases and these Americans. Now, I know that there's more to it than just international rivals. It's how they behaved. It's what they did after. This country is not on the best of terms right now, politically speaking, with Canada. So I understand why cosigning the government here is an issue for Canadians. But this is a two-way road. Dan Levitar! Yeah, it's not my favorite rejoinder.

Context needs to be applied here.

I was going for a joke and— I thought the context was applied. We, uh, we'd like to rip that out of context. I was going for a thing. Yeah. And— You're gonna— I have a family. You're gonna pretend here that you don't love Matthew Tkachuk more than you love anybody you've ever loved? I don't love Matthew Tkachuk more than my daughter. Mike Ryan! No, it's pretty damn close.

This is the Dan Levitar Show!

How much does it factor in where, all right, Florida is a great team, Carolina just won the Stanley Cup, they were in the Stanley Cup Final against Vegas, and these Canadian teams, you know, Connor Hellebuck wants out of Winnipeg, Brady Tkachuk just wanted out of Ottawa, and those winters, and hockey's a winter sport, man, you know, starts up in October and they play into, you know, regular season in April, and those winters are a mother effer. In Canada, and you see these good teams— Vegas, Carolina, Florida, Tampa, for instance— like, man, be really nice to walk around in sandals every now and then during the season.

Especially when you're getting the type of media attention that guys like Brady Tkachuk got, Connor Hellebuck, Mitch Marner, who's not American. Mitch Marner was getting a ton of heat from the local media over there, and he was entertaining Sunbelt teams and ultimately landed in Vegas. There's something to the life that these markets afford, especially when you're in Canada and in some respects you're the only pro team that is occupying that city. The attention and responsibility that comes with the sweater over there. Yep. As opposed to other markets here where you can live fairly anonymously.

It goes back to a conversation we had yesterday about like what level of fame is a good level of fame. And I really feel like it's— the older I get, I guess the more I'm like, hey, Being famous, like, it's awesome in some ways, like a little bit of like celebrity, but being like a real celebrity where you can't go anywhere, the trade-off for the amount of money that it requires for it to be worthwhile, I don't know.

Are you saying you have the perfect level of fame? I really like my, my level of notoriety.

Hey ESPN, everyone's doing well? Yeah, it's like every day, probably every day that I go out, someone it says something and it's like a level of either like, did I go to high school with you? I get that sometimes. You? Yeah. And then it's someone sometimes it's like ESPN, right? And then there's occasion where someone's like, I really like— Charlie Kravitz Show. Yeah, they actually recognize me. They know my name. I get called Foxworthy too much though. Entirely too much. Like Jeff Foxworthy ain't made a joke in forever. Let it go, guys. Just tell him. Let it go. We don't like that. There's your sign. Is that what he said? I thought he was a redneck.

I thought that was like his—

and there's your sign, you might be a redneck.

I thought there was—

there's your— I'm gonna look.

That was a different guy, I think. But anyway, I like—

damn it, it was Larry the Cable Guy.

Yeah. No, I like this level. This is a good level. And also because at this age I am in the perfect point. Bill Engvall. Bill Engvall.

Sorry, as you were.

No, like young people Eh, I don't really like teenagers, don't really mess with me. I don't— they don't know me, I don't know them. It's just like people my age and older, perfect dudes. What up, bro?

So you'd rather have your life than say Stephen A's life? Of course, of course.

Have you seen the way that guy walks in the garden though?

Hold on, I mean, you could never walk in the garden that way. I don't think— I don't think you guys appreciate how challenging Stephen A's life actually is.

Probably really annoying all the time. Yeah, I think that there's a—

every airport, everyone thinks about someone's life and they're like, how much money they got? Stephen A has a lot of money.

He must fly private, right?

His last hit with us, I believe, was from a public airport.

Maybe. But I mean, he does everything else public. And also, that man works so much, right?

That's the part to me. Like, you think Stephen A has an afternoon where he just binge watches TV? I don't think so.

The guy doesn't even have time to imagine that.

He eats TV.

I do want to imagine him watching a show. What do you think he would watch though if he had like—

he watches himself on General Hospital.

Sunday, there's no sports on, what's he watching? Oh my God, what's he binging?

Yeah, I mean, he's a, he's a soap guy, right? He's in the soaps. Reality TV?

Like he's watching Love Island, right?

No chance. No, you don't think so?

No way. Like if he had a chance to just turn his brain off and watch something stupid?

No, I think it's soaps. It's not Love Island.

Like watching himself on soaps like Tony said.

That's what I'm saying. Have you seen the one where he comes into the, uh, into the room and the person's there on the gurney, like about to die, and the nurse is about to kill him with some sort of, like, syringe. And he comes in with a gun. Have you seen that?

He's like an assassin. Yes. In General Hospital. Yeah.

Dominique, have you seen the video? Of course I've seen it. It's incredible.

It is incredible. He's a lifesaver. But I do think that it's like it's— there's a trade-off for the amount of money for that lifestyle. And I think if you need money, you're looking at Stephen A's life like, yeah, that's perfect. But if, like, you're comfortable, you're probably looking at Stephen A's life like, it'd be cool for a little bit.

He doesn't have any time for leisure. There's no relaxing. Yeah, but he's got money.

All right.

But do what with when he's done? Yeah. I mean, I'm sure he does plenty of things. I'm not saying his life is bad. He's all right. So I get this a lot. Tell Stephen A, shut the fuck up. Like, I get that a lot. What do you think Stephen A gets? He just walking through the streets like, I don't want that. I like— I walked through most of my life like a normal guy.

I don't think people— the things that they, that they think they would say to Stephen A. if they saw me, I don't think they're saying. NATO's not a line item!

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It's a common misconception when people say we contribute way more to NATO They don't realize it just means that we're spending more on our military, and we want other countries to spend just as much. It's a common misconception from conservatives.

Far away from the Mike Liberal guy?

It's new.

Did you see— did you see— I meant to bring this up yesterday, all right? Because 2 days ago, and you know, certainly Dominique and I are of a certain age, But 2 days ago, you want to feel old, right? Oh, we're old. 30 years ago to the day, 2 days ago. So 30 years plus 2.

I'm already lost.

All right, let's start over, start over, start over, start over.

Which one's mid-level?

30 years ago plus 2 days. The anniversary.

I gotta say, you could just hit them with 30 years ago.

Okay, 30 years ago, 30-year anniversary. 30-year anniversary of the N64.

Oh, my first console ever. Yeah, me too. Really?

Yeah. Okay, go ahead and say that too.

No way. I mean, it was a Sega Genesis.

Yeah, I got that.

Oh, when that Sega Genesis was under the tree. And also I had a friend who had the Nintendo before I had the Sega Genesis. I used to go over there all the time.

Like regular Nintendo.

OG Nintendo. Not— N64 was fun. GoldenEye and all that. But the memories from playing at his house, I thought he was so rich because he had the Power Pad and the glove. Ooh, we were playing Track. We had the glove on. That was absolutely— it made every game harder to play and terrible, but it was cool because you could put your hand in the glove. It was awesome.

What Nintendo has always done so well is they've always prioritized the gaming experience over graphics and other types of platforms that just try to blow you away with their power. They always wanted to keep it fun. And I just—

well, yeah, like when you originally bought the Nintendo, what did it come with? It came with the glove. Gun and Duck Hunt.

I just remember having the greatest time playing that console. It's my favorite console of all time just because of the experiences I had, shared experiences playing the game. Of course, it goes to GoldenEye, which is goat. N64 GoldenEye.

That was your first console, N64? No, my first console was a Sega Genesis.

Yeah.

You were a Genesis guy. Ninja Gaiden, baby.

I was always a Nintendo guy.

Well, you gotta get a divorce, my friend. One of the, one of the parents has the Sega, the other parent has a SNES. Yes. That's awesome. Yeah. Sonic.

I was a big Sonic guy.

Now I had the original Nintendo, of course, but—

Double dribble? You a lot of double dribble?

Of course I had double dribble.

Shoot it from the crack.

You shoot it from the crack. Of course.

You never miss. Of course. Shoot it from where?

Yep. Of course I had double dribble, but I did have something before the original Nintendo. No, you didn't.

Yeah. Oh, you're older than me.

You know about that Texas Instrument?

Oh shit. The TI? The TI?

No, not the calculator. You were playing with calculators? No.

I genuinely didn't know there was another thing that wasn't the calculator.

Of course. Well. 8-0-0-8-5.

Nice. Nice. I had the OG Texas Instruments. What does that even mean? Like what? That was the console. It was a video game console.

No, it wasn't. What'd you play?

I think I had Space Invaders.

Can add a 1, a 3, and another 5, and it's boobies.

Yeah, that's the only Texas Instrument I had.

Texas Instrument made something before calculators.

There was Atari was the first one. There was nothing before Tex— I mean, yes, there was Atari, there was Sega and Nintendo. Let me see if I could even look it up. There was not a Texas Instrument calculator game. What'd they call it?

Just Texas Instrument?

Well, that I don't remember, but video's looking up the OG Texas Instrument console for me. But that's, that's what I had. I had that before because Nintendo came out like maybe '86-ish, '85, '86. And you could see right there. Look at that right there. Dominique, text since—

some of the—

TI-99. I had that. That was it. That's a calculator. It's not a calculator.

Had a full keyboard.

You can't play a game on that. Those are the controllers, and, and you have the game console right there on the right where you, you, you stuck it in.

I'm just learning about this.

Yeah, it had a keyboard.

I truly don't understand what I'm looking at.

That was it for the video audience. There it is, TI-99. It looks like a polygraph machine.

And you are definitely lying right now about that being your first console. You're not that much older than me. I never even heard of this.

What year were you born? '83. I'm '81.

Well, I mean, Atari was a thing. I know Atari. We didn't have Atari. One of my older cousins had Atari. It was cool at the time, but I never knew Texas Instrument had a gaming console.

Juju, put it on the poll. Did you know that Texas Instrument was a gaming console?

So Nintendo had Mario, Sega had Sonic, Texas Instruments, their, their like go-to mascot was—

I mean, I think I had Space Invaders, but I—

It's an Excel sheet, you had to fill it in.

Oh damn, the boss needs it now!

They had a less popular guy, Larry the Hobo.

Whoa!

It was a different time. Good times. Yeah, PlayStation had Crash Bandicoot. Texas Instruments, Larry the Hoba.

30 years. N64. It's a little weird. The controller was so big. It wasn't big. It was perfectly sized.

You can move it over, move your hand over to one where you're doing something.

3 places to hold it. But I only got 2 hands. I need 3. What's going on here? It's a little weird, right? Yeah. I never owned an N64. I obviously— Texas Instruments. Nope. I never owned a— no, I Nintendo. I had Super Nintendo. You would have loved the wrestling game.

You remember the N64 wrestling game?

Yeah, that was WCW versus NWO Revenge?

Yeah, WrestleMania 2000.

My friend had that in college and we used to play. Yeah, my roommate maybe. Yeah, we used to play that. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, I was in college late '90s, so still an age you played wrestling video games, right?

You're only 2 years older than me. You must have been extra smart. You were in college playing GoldenEye. I feel like I was in middle school playing.

He wasn't extra smart because he went to Santa Fe Community College.

Yep. Not true. I went to the University of Florida. I have a degree.

Yeah, you transferred there from Santa Fe.

If my life depended on showing you where Santa Fe Community College is, I'd be dead. I don't know where it is.