Transcript of The Big Suey: I Say Unto Thee (feat. Amin Elhassan)

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Dan Devine points out that in Wilt Chamberlain's 100-point game, as the New York Knicks intentionally fouled other Philadelphia Warriors to try to keep the ball away from him, the Warriors responded by intentionally fouling the Knicks to get the ball back so they could funnel it to him. Ethical hoops. Nobody cares about the details as history marches on. I think Mike Ryan also forgets the post-LeBron, before Jimmy years of Miami Heat basketball that started the way that he feels about the Miami heat in general, which was a stretch like this that didn't include finals appearances in it. But the moment has been grabbed, and you can't have right now pure sports moments without argument, not the way that all of this is consumed and discussed. And so Miami Heat fans, especially the ones who are in the building, were thrilled watching that last night. But I believe you're going to get poison right now that has nothing to do with the Miami Heat, nothing to do with Bam out of Bio, and nothing to do with even Kobe Bryant. If you don't like what basketball has to come, yesterday will become a symbol for why you don't like it, because the numbers have been distorted, and now Bam out of bio is in a place among Kobe and Wilt that he shouldn't be.

That's not a place that he belongs historically. That list, one, two, I felt right at 100 points, 81 points. But let's bring in Amin Al-Hassan. What do you think Amin is going to be the national reaction to this? What was your reaction to this last night?

Yeah, it's weird, Dan, because in many ways, I wonder if these are different algorithms at play. My algorithm had nothing about this isn't real basketball or basketball stinks now. My algorithm was all about people thinking that Kobe Bryant's legacy was somehow tarnished or disrespected because the heat seemed to intentionally go after the record as opposed some moral way of like, oh, he scored 83 points in a driveway going up the hill both ways while snowing barefoot. So I don't know. I really can't tell you what the national reaction is because every Everyone's consuming different reactions because of algorithms on social media. As far as my reaction, it was like, oh, my God, is this happening? And then I thought when it was 70 points and it was in the fourth quarter, I thought to myself, Well, they're going to pull them. They're not going to go for it. And then I realized they're going for it. I said, Holy crap. Is he going to get it? And what's Washington going to do to try to stop it? I thought it was a great fun night for basketball and I think people complaining usually have an ulterior motive.

Was Washington out of line for the way they were playing the final few minutes?

No. I don't know if you guys ran the video of Sam Mitchell, who was the coach of the Toronto Raptets when Kobe dropped 81. He was on the Raptets' broadcast last night, and they broke out champagne instead of toasting. No, you do whatever it takes. You try everything in your power to stop that guy from doing it. Unfortunately, Washington didn't have a whole lot of power to do that.

They didn't actually break out champagne. Are you making that up? Did they bring champagne out?

Sam Mitchell did. Sam Mitchell did. It was awesome.

Where did he get champagne?

This is like James Burdy with the cigar.

He had champagne nearby. Just in case. To celebrate that somebody didn't even break the record, that somebody broke the second-place finisher for most points allowed by an individual in a game, former Coach of the Year, Sam Mitchell broke out champagne to celebrate that.

Not only that, he definitely pulled the reverse Mercury Morse, but he also gave some life advice. Yeah, there he is on RAPTors broadcast on TSN, toasting right there. But he gave some advice, a life advice to the Wizards coach, telling them, Hey, man, it happens, and you just got to take it in chin. At the end of the day, you're not playing, so you really are limited in the total number of things you can do.

Do we know for sure that Wilt scored 100? Is it possible that Bam has scored the most points ever in an NBA game?

No. My kid actually asked me this yesterday in the car, said, Do you think it was fake? And I said, No, we had the radio broadcast. My kid said, Well, they could have faked I said, Yes, but they had the radio broadcast for as long as I can remember. This isn't a function of the last 10 years or so where people are doctoring things left and right. It's documented. Everybody knows what he did in that game. The box scorer is there and it's existed for decades. The radio broadcast is there and it's existed. It's just that nobody was there in terms of cameras, and that's why we are naturally skeptical.

Cody says he was there. He remembers it clearly, even though there is no video proof anywhere of this. Pablo Tori finds out, did a deep dive on it, has all the facts if you want to check out what is not in any way up for dispute on the history of this. But as you consume, not your algorithm, but you love NBA Twitter. You're enmeshed in the tapestry of everything that is NBA conversation. What are the interesting things that you have either observed yourself or heard others say about this in the instant reaction to the aftermath afterwards?

Well, I mean, to me, I wondered a lot of things as I consumed my version of the reaction, which was, again, very Kobe-centric. I wondered, first and foremost, if it's in part because of who it is who did the breaking. If Donovan Mitchell had done this in the same exact fashion, if Luca Donchis had done this in the same exact fashion, if Jalen Brunson had done this in the same exact fashion, I don't know if the uproar would have been quite as loud. I think there is a feeling that Bam out of bio who is not a bucket to use their parlance, for him to occupy the space, that feels like some treason or some blasphemy. Then obviously, Bam shot 43 free throws. And again, he's not a guy that shoots a whole lot of free throws a game. So that felt out of balance for a lot of people. But then obviously, Kobe Bryant, the fact that Kobe held record and that Kobe is no longer with us. People kept bringing that up. It was like, Oh, that's disrespectful. That man can't even... As if Kobe could have suited up the next day and try to go, I'll go get 85 just to make sure I still have number two.

Oh, but that is so real. You cannot win arguments against a dead man. Kobe Bryant's legacy was it mushroom clouded because of the way that he died. And now people protect him really preciously as if there's Saint involved there. His memory, his legacy, all of it.

Yeah, absolutely, Dan. Again, there was already very zealous his fandom before he passed away. I used to make a joke when I was on the jump that it's a nation, the nation of Kobistan, and these are the Kobistanis, and they're ruled by the knights of the triangular table, and everything is all about that flag, even him over the Lakers, even. They would rather see him flourish and the Lakers struggled on the other way around. And obviously, when he passed away, I have to retire that bit because it's a very sad, tragic passing, especially in the circumstances with his daughter and the other children that were on that helicopter. And so you got to ease off the gas. But basketball moves on. And regardless of whether he's alive or not or how he passed away or not, this record was broken. And wasn't nothing Kobe or any of the Kobe 90s can do about it. We're just going to keep living until someone drops 84 or 85 or whatever is next.

One more point on that, though, in terms of the precious rosary bead clutching on that. Kobe Bryant was a religious figure before he died in terms of how zealous the people are around him, and now even more so. I mean, now the way that this is being reacted to preciously isn't in protection of basketball, I don't believe, as much as it is in protection of his memory.

Dan, I don't know if we have a sui for best Steve Martin, but that might be it.

I liked it better when I said it.

Good point.

Zaz, what do you have here?

Forgot what I was going to ask him.

Okay. When you look at what it is that happened last night and people use it to celebrate their dislike of basketball? What do you do with that?

Well, I think these are... Look, I tend to dwell in a place where I don't have to defend something that I don't like to other people. I, for example, don't care for cricket. Try to watch it, try to learn it. Too confusing, too boring. What I don't do is spend every waking minute of my life trying to tell people that cricket stinks, even though cricket is a massively popular sport by some calculations That's the second most popular sport in the world above basketball by just number of people playing it. But again, I don't care. And so I move on. So I would urge everyone who feels the need to point out the basketball stinks. Why do you care so much about something that does not interest you?

That's the part that feels frustrating, right? It's like, do you guys like basketball or do you like complaining about basketball? It feels like the last couple of years, everybody likes complaining about basketball and not watching the actual sport because everybody says the regular season is dead. I mean, we just had an incredible game last night between the Celtics and between the Spurs. And the night before, SGA has his two-time MVP moment hitting a clutch Dagger three against Jokuj, who's averaging the best numbers of his career, and he's had three MVP seasons.

Yeah. No, it's been a tremendous season. I think the only downside is some of the injuries that have happened. We wish these teams were full strength, but we've had great moments, great games, great performances across the board. And so I don't know, Tony, to be honest with you, I don't know what they want. I don't know if this is... Again, we live in an age where people are saying things and doing things because it gets attention, because it picks up traction. And maybe that's why. But again, I think we all have things in life, TV shows, movies, books, whatever, sports that we don't like. We don't spend most of our time talking about how much we don't like. I hate Hamilton. It came up, I talked about how much I hated it, and that's it. I don't spend every day talking about how much Hamilton sucks.

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♪ This is the Dan Levatard show with the Stugats.

Let's play for a mean that Tim McMahon sound from earlier in the show so he can hear what some of the... Even the old heads are saying.

You are like... He's jacking up threes while being triple-teamed. I mean, it was just It honestly was just awful, hideous, disgusting, basketball down the stretch that I admit I was cracking up laughing while watching. But I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, about heat culture and professionalism and all that crap again, because that was the most blatant stat chasing I've ever seen. Honestly, it was the worst stat chasing since Ricky Davis tried to get a rebound on the wrong basket to get a triple-double.

But the difference is this was minutes and minutes and minutes and extend the game stat chasing.

So it was embarrassing for the lizards, egregious for the heat. But hey, you got your '83. I enjoyed the Ethical 39 by WMDBE more than I enjoyed the egregious '83.

But I'm old, I'm grumpy.

I admit it.

I didn't know that the lizards played last night. That's incredible. The heat played the Wizards and the Wizards.

It's his thing. It's his thing. He replaces the W with an L.

Sure. Okay. Look, man, he said he was offended by someone shooting over triple teams. Oh, I wonder, was there a player in NBA history who routinely shot over double and triple teams despite having open teammates because maybe he was trying to get buck? I can't think of any. Definitely not one that wore 24 or eight in their career. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. We are basically arbitrarily saying things. Look, if there's someone that you want to blame, someone you want to be angry at, it's the Washington Wizards. They're the ones who could not come up with a game plan to stop Bam out of bio. Well, again, I must reiterate, not Donovan Mitchell.

You asked him to be aggressive. He was finally aggressive. You say his name is Idriss until he's more aggressive. You will not call him Bam. He was aggressive.

He was aggressive last night. Absolutely. Look, is 83 points, 73 points, 63 points, even 53 points ever achievable for him again? We'll see, but I would bet no. But again, he has a capacity to be a bigger offensive player than he has shown thus far. I truly believe that. And for Tim McMahon, talking about professionalism in class, again, it's a game. They tip the ball, Their whistles, their rest, their scorekeepers, you play. Again, you want to talk about professionalism? What happened to the Wizards? Why are they so incapable of stopping a player who's not known to be offensively great? Everyone talks about all people mailing it in. The heat They didn't mail it in. Clearly, they whipped that ass, and their best player got 83 points. So again, I would say, if you have a problem with it, maybe you need to go back to YMCA basketball where they have mercy rules and things like that. Maybe that's a more comfortable place for you and your pure ethical basketball.

I take offense to that. The idea that everything the Miami Heat as a franchise or about now means nothing as a result of what happened That offends me. I don't understand how anyone would say that.

It's short-sided. It's short-sided. It's emotional. It's reactionary. And he said himself at the end of it, And I'm an old person. Yeah, it should have been. Okay.

Zaz, it should offend you on two levels. Level one, the fact that one night could invalidate decades of a way of doing things that we know. We know for a fact. Dozens of teams across the league do not do things to that level, to that level of efficiency or class or discipline. So that's one level. The other level that should offend you is that that was somehow unclassy or unprofessional. What did they do? They played basketball. They won the game. They did it with however means they did it. If you have a problem, again, we always say this, go all the way back to when Cleveland had LeBron the first time around. Remember when they used to be up big at home games, they would play Rick Astley. Then Danny Green would be All Danny Green was known for was dancing at the end of a blowout because he never played. Obviously, he went on to have a great career. But at that point in his career, he was just known as the dancing fool when Rick Astley comes on because they whooped ass. I remember there were teams and scouts and coaches like, I hate them.

I can't believe it's so unclassy. My response back then is the same as this now. If you don't like it, then go out there and stop them from doing it.

Last night, it's worth noting that the heat were without Kaleleware, the other center on their team. There's no Jovich, so they didn't They didn't have anybody else to fill those minutes other than Kashad Johnson. They didn't have Hero or Powell or Wiggins, all of their other scores. So they needed Bam to come out aggressive, which is what happened in that first quarter with the 31 points. And then late in the game, it ends up being a 12-point game in the fourth quarter, so they needed to keep him out there. But then late in the game, all the BS starts happening. But I mean, can we move to the space where we just talk about how impressive it is to get 83 points in a game, regardless of what's happening? Because I think we frame this all around other people's negativity. Bam out of bio had 83 points in a game yesterday. A guy who came into this league to be a defender and a lob threat.

Right. You said came in this league. We're talking about up until two nights ago, we're still talking about, Hey, man, you got to be more than just a defender and a lob threat. It's definitely a remarkable achievement. Again, man, you talk about someone who went out there and put up 43 field goal attempts. People think that's all. If you gave me 43, I guarantee you There's a zillion NBA players out there that if you gave them 43 attempts, they wouldn't even get there because A, it's hard to put up 43 legitimate attempts, and B, it is exhausting to put up 43 legitimate attempts. So what he did out there was a testament to his stamina. It was a testament to his skill level. And again, I don't see anything untoward about it. How many players in NBA history have scored 80 points? Him, Kobe, and and will. And so if this thing is so easy or if it's so easily manipulated, why aren't there more 80-point games? It's a real question, especially in this era where defenses are worse on the bottom end than they've ever been.

I mean, he took 86 shots last night between free throws and between field goals. Eighty-six shots. Is that the most in NBA history? Because I'm trying to do the research on it. I don't think anybody else has taken 86 combined shots in history.

Yeah. I mean, off the top of my head, I would say it's either him or Wilt, just off the rip. But 86 shots, man, that's a lot. And again, people say, Oh, but Kobe only shot 20 free throws or whatever it was. I said, Well, it sounds like Kobe didn't make it as hard on the Raptors as Bam out of bio did on the Wizards.

I actually thought, as someone who has said a lot, that the people watching basketball, even the ardent followers, don't generally have a real appreciation for how difficult it would be for any of us to advance the ball, even to half-court, if the Wizards even were saying, You will not advance the ball to half-court. If any group of five of us tried to get the ball over half-court, and Alex Saar is out there, and we would not be able to get the ball over half-court, the athleticism involved in just getting an inbound when there are three NBA players trying to prevent you from doing that, all of that is going to lost in the wash in today's discussion, what you're talking about. Just the difficulty of actually getting open, even if it's just the Wizards preventing you with three guys from trying to get open.

Yeah, Dan, you took it the step that I never liked to take. It would be hard for any of us. Of course, it's hard for any of us. That's why we're not in the NBA. I always compare NBA players to other NBA players. Again, it's hard for a lot of NBA players to bring the ball up against that pressure. It's hard for a lot of NBA players to get open that intensity and scrutiny. That's not a human predicament. That is an NBA player predicament. And so, again, I say unto thee, if Bam somehow used the cheat code like we're playing legend of Zelda or something like that, then why hasn't anyone else employed it? Why isn't anyone else doing it? And the reality is there are no cheat codes. There's a ball, there's a whistle, there are lines, there's scorekeepers, there are referees. And then your job is to try to as many points as you can, and they're trying to stop you. And under those conditions, he did it better than anyone else other than Wilt. The other thing I'll say, and this is important, you know what this uproar is really about? Maybe it's not about Kobe.

Maybe it's not about Bam's place in history. Maybe it's not about basketball today, ethical versus non-ethical or any of those things. Maybe it's just about people who use singular numbers to worship everything. This is the Sixth Rings is why Michael is better. Eighty-one points. That's why Kobe Bryant is better. When someone who is not of the chosen class, so to speak, ends up with one of these numbers, we have to find an answer. We have to find an explanation that's not, Oh, maybe he's better than Kobe. Of course, he's not better than Kobe. We all know that. Bam knows that. He even said it in his postgame press conference. But the reality is, if you live your life with a number being the reason why someone is... This is why Kobe is better than LeBron. Why? Because he had 81. Okay, now Bam walks in with 83, and you're like, all of a sudden, that argument doesn't work anymore. So either you stick to your argument, in which case Bam's better, or you accept that maybe, just maybe, a number isn't the thing that makes a player better than another.

Put it on the poll, please. Should your basketball analyst ever say, I say unto thee, while doing his basketball analysis, and to a means point, we can discuss this ad nauseam. There are very few numbers members in basketball, very few that matter, and Bam now has one that matters forever. Go ahead and name all the numbers you guys think matter, because LeBron is about to set the record for whatever it is, most field goals ever. Nobody cares. He did. Okay, yeah. So give me all the numbers, I mean. Give me all the numbers that you, as a basketball sacred person, find sacrosanct.

There's one number that is sacrosanct. I put it on everything that will never, ever, ever ever, ever be broken. Wilt Chamberlain, for a season, averaged 48 and a half minutes a game. Ladies and gentlemen, there are only 48 minutes in an NBA game.

That's awesome. That's a parlor trick.

That's a great one.

It's a parlor trick. It's nonsense.

It's awesome. I got another one. I got another one for you. We know that Shay Gilleses-Alexander is on the cusp of breaking Wilt's record of consecutive 20-point games, right? Shay has actually missed 13 games in that span. It's not Not truly consecutive, but we'll forget about that. But Wilt, in his span, missed 23 minutes over the entirety of the span.

You dorked out to numbers that I don't think the average sports fan would say. That's the question I was asking you. What are the numbers that matter in that sport? What are the numbers that can be... Baseball is the sport that has the numbers that matter. None of the other sports do that as well as baseball does it. I don't know how many basketball has, but I associate '81 with Kobe, and now '83 goes to Bam. There aren't many.

You got a 100-point game. You've got Michael Jordan's 63 point in the playoffs. I think that might be the one that people have a chance of actually achieving because 63 seems really low, considering all the great scoring efforts we've had in NBA history. So I think Michael Jordan, 63. And man, I don't know, we don't talk about this enough. Jokić leading the league in assists and rebounds currently, and he's top five in scoring, and he's shooting 58% from the field and 40% from three. That might be one right there. And then Steph Curry, unanimous MVP, is another one.

Concony People coming up, too, after that.

Don Levatard.

All these high-paid analysts, I don't want to mention names, TNT, ESPM.

Oh, yeah, they're dead. They're not going to make Even if they win, if they lose in Miami- I need to calm you down. I need to calm you down. That's right. If they lose in Miami, they don't got a chance in Boston.

Oh, they are going to have their ass in Boston.

Stugats. They were wrong.

Are they going to lose their job? No. Are they going to get a cutting plate?

No. What are they going to do?

Keep predicting what is the obvious.

They're going to say, Oh, the nuggets are going to win.

Oh, Denver, the altitude. You know what? They are not going to win at all. This is the Dan Levatard show with the Stugats.

I've been trying to get off the ground the take, and I've done it tepidly that Jokić is a better offensive player than Michael Jordan. I've been trying-It's a good take, Dan. I mean, I think it's prettyYou got to lean in. I know, but it's not-T'as flojito. It's not ridiculous. It's not a ridiculous thing to say. It's not.

You got to lean in, Dan. See, that's why it's not taking off because you're scared. You're doing it halfway. You got to go all the way. You got to take a page out of your boy, nick Wright's book, and just be the first on that island and start yelling it loud. And by the time people start coming around, you look like a genius.

See you later, Amine. Thank you for making the time. I have a couple- Also, real quick, real quick, real quick.

The Miami Heats worst stretch was probably pre-Pat Reilly. But beyond that, it was also post-Alan Houston, putting that dagger in them. So get a grip, Mike.

No, get out of here.

Thank you, Amine. Appreciate the time. A couple of things that I want to clean up, okay? Because I did like Zaz's stat of Bam out of Bayo and Simony Fantechio combined for more than 100 points. It reminds me of the fact that Tommy Aaron and Hank Aaron are the best home run duo in the history of baseball. The Ricky Davis point that Tim McMahon brought up, for those of you who do not know, Ricky Davis, in trying to get a triple-double shot at his own basket to try and get the rebound, thinking that he would get the rebound credit on a shot he had taken on his own basket.

Wouldn't you have assumed that, too?

I don't think last night was that. I would have also assumed that. I would have thought that it would be a rebound even if you shot at your own basket. A reasonable assumption, I thought, from Ricky Davis, statistically. I don't know why he said, I say unto thee.

He's good for dramatic flair every once in a while. He says he hates Hamilton, but it could be musical.

Yeah, he's just trying to be official. He's just trying to make sure that we understand what he's saying is a proclamation, not just a statement.

Can I ask you, when Bam hit two free throws to get to 81, and then there was a stoppage in play. I thought that Spoh was going to take him out right there.

So did Eric Reid, by the way, because he said as much.

Yeah, the broadcaster, too. I thought they were going to take him out there. To me, and I was thinking to myself, Oh, this is so cool.

They would have honored him. This is so cool. If they had in that moment just stopped at Kobe to honor him, a lot fewer people would be mad about it.

What do you think the reaction nationally would be? Because I thought this is going to be an amazing moment.

Yeah, I guess, nationally, it would have been applauded, and it probably would have played more into Bam's character. But do it for the heat fans. Do it for the people in that building. Do it for Bam, who's always been selfless.

As a heat fan, would you have thought less of what he did last night, he did that?

I think it's so cool and funny that Bam now has 83 points. I couldn't have pictured an NBA superstar that is less likely to do this when you consider, and Eimear Yudoka spoke to it. I think Amin To button up his point, the affront to basketball last night was a team that has tried all season to lose basketball games. I stopped feeling bad for the Wizards. I never felt bad for them. But yeah, the game became a circus. I Man, this is a little bit of a circus. This is a bad look. It's not a bad look for the Miami Heat. Miami Heat are trying to win that basketball game, and the game is well in hand. Get there, so an incredible achievement. The affront to the sport is the team that is actively trying to lose every game when they step on the court. So good on them.

They That's not what they deserve. And when you're the Lizards and you're with four and a half minutes left, now doing the thing where you're triple teaming the player, he already has 70 plus points in the game. That's where you are. He was well on his way. If he had continued to get the ball in isolation and drive to the hoop, those fouls would have been the same thing. It's only because of the farcicle challenges and everything that came with it, which was actually so entertaining and so fun. But I was like, the 30 points in the first quarter, the 31 points, is obviously the most impressive part of the game. But I will say at the end, when I'm watching Bam, who should be gassed, triple-teamed off the ball and finding a way through his will in athleticism, just to break away from these guys to be able to get the ball, to be in position to get fouled again. I was so impressed by that. That's a testament to the player that Bam is, is his ability to just never run out of stamina.

To the point of taking him out at 81, I think the ends would have justified the means if everybody was looking at Spo intentional foul, do this, do that, miss the free throw, to try to get him to 81 to then take him out. It would have been national pause, but everybody could have pointed been like, Oh, that's why you guys were doing it, because you wanted to honor Kobe at 81.

Why is Kobe sacrosanct? Someone else is going to come along- Because he is, Mike. Because he is, though. The way that the league works, by the way, when someone goes for these scoring marks, is you're going to see a bunch of superstars try to score as many points here in the next couple of weeks. It's very likely someone guns for Bam's high watermark. I don't understand that. Well, I guess I do understand the allegiance to Kobe because of the standem that surrounds him. But it's only a matter of time when you consider where the sport's gone that even someone comes for Wilt.

It's been 20 years, though, that this record has stood, and nobody's gotten close.

That's why this is so impressive, Tony.

But you need to have that extra gamesmanship of intentional foul here, 42 free throws there, to be able to get to that number because it's He was unattaining.

But he was going... He asserted himself to get to the line a bunch throughout that game. If you look- By the way, hold on, really quick.

I think the referee should have swalled the whistle a couple of times, by the way.

If you go back and watch, sure, everybody wants to go home. But when that happening. You got to call the game the right way. And he was getting hacked all of those possessions. And so when you look at it, you're looking for a player to break a record. And as you said, it's been standing for 20 years for a reason. And the irony in all of this is there's nobody who is a bigger celebrator of the game in his post career than Kobe Bryant. And I'm of the belief that Kobe would have been out there celebrating in the media. Oh, my God, what a moment. He would have been pissed that somebody broke his record. But it's not like he would have been saying, Oh, unethical hoops.

No, Kobe would have been impressed by 83 points and three assists. He would have been impressed by it.

That's so Kobe.

No, it's crazy. 83 points and no double, double.

But that assist to Drew Smith, Dan. That assist to Drew Smith, unselfish.

My wife got mad at me at one point during the game last night. In the first quarter. So I'm watching the game with my son. We're in the Zazla mansion family room, and I'm just relaxed. I switched the heat game to the big TV. Usually, I have the Panthers on the big TV. I switched the heat to the big TV because Bam has 22 points, and it's still the first quarter. I'm like, I'm not going to put this on. And so now we're watching the heat there. And my wife called me on the phone. She was at dinner. She called me on the phone. She's on her way home. She needed help with something. I don't know what I've figured out. She called me, okay, and we're talking for a minute, a minute and a half. And then all of a sudden, I got really quiet. And she's like, Are you still there? Because at this point, Bam had 30 in the first quarter and has all my attention out. She's like, Are you still there? I go, Yeah, something's happening. I got to go. I hung up the phone on her, and that was it.

She came home, she was mad at me.

I don't know how it is that you have the confidence to swagger after this happened earlier in the show. Zaz, what do you have here?

I forgot what I was going to ask him. Okay.

Minor penalty, two minutes for adding nothing.

Such a late call.

Yeah, it's a delayed penalty there.

This is Max at his foot on the line. We took a three-point basket away 20 minutes later.

It is a delayed penalty. Greg Cody is working harder on vacation than he does when he's in town. He decided, again, with crazy hair, I'm sure, to react to live news while on vacation. Here's Greg Cody's thoughts that nobody asked for on Bam Outta Bio.

Okay, so I'm on vacation in the Caribbean, and all stuff keeps happening in South Florida sports. Stop it. I'm on a beach in Tortola, British Virgin Islands, and I find out that the Cantuna and sign Malik Willis, the Dolphins have. Now we're docking in Barbados, rum capital of the world. We'll be doing some rum later today on a beautiful rum tour. There's a rival cruisehip in the background. Anyway, now we're pulling in the Barbados, and all anybody's talking about is Bam out of five is scoring 83 points. Somebody told me Bam scored 83. I'm like, In a week, in three or four games? That's pretty good. 83 points in one game? Hey.

Morning. You're probably going to see the path.

He's really going to see. You're probably going to see, not probably going to see. Oh, okay. I know.

I'm so high.

I'm all day. No, that's okay. Those are our friends from the suite next What was I saying? Oh, yeah. After three, four games. South Florida sports, quit doing things that are newsworthy while I'm on vacation. Have a little respect. Bam out of bio, of all people's point, 83 points, more than Michael Jordan ever did. More than LeBron James. It's just insane. Anyway, I'll be drinking some rum today while things keep happening in the South Florida sports.

Put it on the poll. Is everybody in Barbados talking about Bam out of bio's 83 points? I want to also put on the poll more impressive. Bam's 83 or Simone Fontechio's 18 points. And I also want to entertain Zaslow's hypothetical a little bit more. Do you believe that if they'd stopped at '81 and Eric Spolstra takes Bam out of the game because he and Bam have both decided to honor Kobe Bryant, that the reaction instead today of Miami defending its little excellent historic moment against the country's criticism, it would have become instead the reverse of the country would have been applauding and Miami would have been like, You can't take him out of the game there, Spoh. You got to let him break the record. Why would you not let him break the record? If you entertain Zaz is hypothetical. Is it because people are being precious, specifically about the name Kobe Bryant, who's no longer with us?

Yeah, I guess ask yourself, what would Kobe do? No way Kobe is coming out of that game. He doesn't care. He doesn't care if it's a legend that passed away tragically, and this is a posthumous record that is revered. He'd go for it.

This is a funny one to me, though, because Last Dance taught us, and so did Michael Jordan's Hall of Fame speech, If you win, you can be the asshole, and we'll celebrate the being of an asshole. This person who did this last night is the opposite of an asshole. 100%. This is a person that when they're saying on the broadcast for the 50th time, he's such a good person, everyone in Miami thinks this is a model superstar, but he doesn't have that asshole in him, and it's a criticism of him.

Yeah, the whole thing is that he's not aggressive, and he has 83 points. First take just put up a graphic of all the people, the high scoring games in NBA history, and there are about five of them that have happened in the last eight years that you do not remember.

I named them. It's Dame, it's Luca, it's Joel Embiid, it's 70.

Yeah, those numbers don't matter. What matters is Kobe's number. And that's why you keep him in, because that's historic. Otherwise, you're Damian Lillard, '71, that you're googling, and did that really happen?

One of my favorite moments was after Bam hugged his girlfriend, Asia Wilson, and his mom, and was in tears. He goes to the podium with Asia Wilson, and everyone realizes that the two people that are sitting there are the active leaders in the most points scored in an NBA game and in a WNBA game.

I don't know what their relationship status is, but whatever child is birthed there has a pretty good chance at being athlet gifted, an Olympic baby.

They're together.

Mike, you know I have one rule to live by, right?

Don't place parlays on multiple long shots. Don't say a game is one when it hasn't hit triple zero.

Always drink your Jägermeister ice cold.

That's the rule. Everything else is merely a suggestion.

Everything else?

Everything else.

Wearing clean underwear every day?

Well, that's just a personal decision.

Brushing your teeth?

Obviously smart, but not a rule.

Never PP on an electric fence.

Okay, maybe there are two rules, but the one that is 100% that I insist on completely, Jägermeister must be drunk ice cold. Or don't drink it at all. Damn, that's cold.

Exactly.

You're finally starting to get it.

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