Transcript of Hour 2: A Rather Melancholy Footnote (feat. Jessica Smetana & Jemele Hill)

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Gutes, gutes, gutes, gutes, gutes, This is the Dan Levatore Show with the Stugats podcast.

Jessica is going to join us here in a little bit, Jamel Hill as well. We are going to try to not talk Talk Bam with Jessica and Jamel. Why? I will put a little bit of a ribbon on some of this with BAM Autobio and how it's being received nationally and in Los Angeles. This is a tweet from Jorge Sedano in June of 2017.

What do you say?

Yo, how many times I got to tell you. According to scouting reports, Atebio is said to project to be a poor man's Tristan Thompson. And now he is the record... Or he's not even the record holder. Wilt is at 100. This is an unusual thing. Second place by 17 isn't usually celebrated this way or making people in Los Angeles sad. The Lakers last night, there was a fun basketball night last night. If you're watching Boston and the Spurs, Wemby goes crazy against Boston. Jalen Brown is ejected in a way that you really shouldn't be ejecting him. He got pushed.

He obviously got pushed, and they called the other way. If he went out of bounds, he went nuts. The other guy gave him a tech.

But it was shocking, though. The Lakers Juju told us recently that the Lakers stink with a capital H, and they don't actually stink. They're about 10 games over 500, and they're a little bit confusing. They do stink at defense, but they beat Minnesota last night. During the game, the public address announcement for the Lakers announced Bam out of bio's record-setting night this way. Ladies and gentlemen, your attention, please. This evening, a rather melancholy footnote in NBA history occurred. Miami beat Washington 150, 129, and then they gave Miami forward. Bam out of Bio, scored 83 points.

Get the hell out of here.

Losers.

That's shocking. That's real? A rather melancholy footnote is how Bam- That scores 83 points.

Melancholy footnote.

Bam He's crazy. Bam said after the game that that's the best he's ever felt after a game, and it is a rather melancholy footnote in Los Angeles. That's shocking.

He's shit, man.

Just the quickest thing on how this could possibly be melancholy, because Bam at a Bio is a guy who went at Kentucky, would stay late after practice. And John Calipari said that he would go up to him and be like, Why are you still here in the gym? And what Bam would do is just turn his phone where his phone background was the trailer that he and his mom grew up in. And when he got his first big contract, he his mom a house. She was there last night. Asia Wilson was there last night, a fellow record holder. This was anything but melancholy. What a cool moment for them to shit on.

Kobe didn't have the record. He was second.

A rather melancholy footnote. Jessica joins us now, and we are going to change the subject matter around here because we've been talking about this Bam thing for three hours. But before we get into the meat of some sports topics, Zazlo is he's out on Quentin Tarantino now.

Well, no, not out. No, not out. But I do have thoughts on- Well, I mean, I say you're out because you won't watch Django Unchained.

You won't watch it again. That's out. We represented his feelings accurately.

Quentin Tarantino has been getting for years, gets very famously a long time ago, Spike Lee took him to task on his use of the N-word in his movies, and he writes the N-word his script many, many times.

Says it himself when he puts himself in his movies is very comfortable as a white man using that word and has defended it at every turn.

I mean, that scene, like his scene in Pulp Fiction, which is my favorite movie, His scene in Pulp Fiction is hilarious and also really over the top with the use of the N-word, okay? As are some scenes in a lot of his movies. I will tell you that Django Unchained, which obviously is the N-word a lot and is like, we're dealing with slavery here and has some rough scenes. He's my favorite director. His movies are my favorite. But I will tell you, I've seen Django Unchained. It's a really good movie. I've never watched it again. Every time that I pass by it on television and I'll see it for a few minutes, it's always a tough watch, and not just because of the N-word. It's a little bit rough to watch. The most recent, I guess, actress to come out and be critical of Quentin Tarantino. Here is Rosanne Arquette, who worked with him in Pulp Fiction. Rosanne Arquette, you'll remember, was Eric Stolt. He was the drug dealer. She was his girlfriend, and very famously in the scene with the O. D. Adrenaline shot with Uma Thurman. Rosanne Arquette, in a magazine piece about her career, talked about Quentin Tarantino saying, Personally, I'm over the use of the N-word.

I hate it. I cannot stand that Tarantino has been given a hall pass. It's not art. It's just racist and creepy. Obviously, Quentin Tarantino is going to respond to that. He writes, Dear Rosanne, I hope the publicity you're getting from 132 different media outlets writing your name and printing your picture was worth disrespecting me. In a film, I remember quite clearly, you were thrilled to be a part of. Do you feel this way now? Very possibly. But after I gave you a job and you took the money to trash it for what I suspect is very cynical reasons, shows a decided lack of class, no less honor. There is supposed to be a sprit de corps between artistic colleagues, but it would appear the objective was accomplished. Congratulations, Q.

Jessica smiling because of how you just pronounced sprit de corps. I can see it on her. I can see her face.

Dan, that's not fair.

Is it wrong, though? It might not be fair, but is it- No, it's not wrong. What are your thoughts on everything that he said there, Jessica?

I think she's entitled to change her opinion over the span of, what, 30 years since the movie came out. I think that her criticism, like you mentioned, is something that has been said many, many times about him. Creepy and racist is... Yeah, I mean, that's certainly things that people have called him before.

Not just creepy and racist, also affiliated with Harvey Weinstein in a way that hasn't blown back on him the way you think it might. Look, man, his arrogance is earned. He makes great films, but he carries himself as if he knows that he makes great films, and he's untouchable because he's doing something there that no one else is doing. No one else is comfortable doing that in 2026. No white man is comfortable doing that.

There's been a lot of controversy this week regarding the movies, Dan. I know that the Oscars are coming up this weekend. There's been several just bad PR moments. So I would like to take this time to transition to one of my favorite controversies of the week, which was something Timothée Chalamet said in an interview with Matthew McConaher. Have you seen any of the blowback to Timmy Chalamet's comments to Matthew McConaher? I think we might have... De Broglie, do we have the clip?

Yes, we do.

And I don't want to be working in ballet or opera or things where it's like, Hey, keep this thing alive, even though no one cares about this anymore. All respect to the ballet and opera people out there.

I just lost 14 cents in viewership.

But damn, I just took shots for no reason.

That's not a shot. I hear what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah.

So.

Sorry.

Tried to save it there with the little operatic note at the end, Dan. But this clip went platinum viral on the the Internet, and the opera and ballet communities were so mad because in this clip, it appears as though out of nowhere, Timothée Chalmet is taking a shot at ballet and opera for not being relevant in the mainstream. And so he has been just People are very, very upset at Timothée Chalamet. So I was like, That's interesting. I would consider myself a fan of Timothée Chalamet. I'm going to watch this interview. I would also consider myself a fan of Matthew McConaher, and especially the film Interstellar, which is what they spent a lot of this interview talking about, Dan. So I watched this entire hour long interview with Timothée Chalamet. And man, it's not that it got taken out of context, but it's almost as if no one who reacted to it, cared at all why he brought up ballet and opera. And what he was trying to say, what they were talking about was that the younger generation, apparently, directors are making films where there's a shorter first act, and they want more action sequences earlier in the films to capture people's attention.

And he was talking about that, and they were talking back and forth about that. And he was saying that he wants younger people to go to the movies, and he doesn't want the movies to become some ballet and opera, where they're not part of the mainstream, and you have to beg people to go see your movies because they're only watching short form videos and things that capture their attention. So I understand he probably shouldn't have used that as an example because it was mean and dismissive. But the other side of that, Dan, is I don't watch the ballet or the opera, so I can't sit here and be like, Well, he's an asshole, and he's wrong, because I would have to agree. It's not a mainstream form of art anymore like it used to be.

But based on what he said there, Timothy Chalamet. Do we take into consideration at all that opera sucks?

No, it's not surprising. That's a good point.

Okay, that was way meaner than anything.

It's not surprising that people who love opera and ballet would be defensive and protective of opera and ballet. The more interesting thing to me is, doesn't Chalamet, in these times that we're in where no one gets to be universally popular and everyone is polarizing, he never has bad public moments, does he?

He's a bit, it almost feels like over exposed here, right, Jess? Where it's like, he's been talking and talking and talking and talking and was eventually bound to put his foot in his mouth. I mean, he's doing podcasts about-Putting his foot in his mouth about opera? What I was going to say. What was it? 1837? But you're proving my point, which is But if this is the worst thing that's been said, if this is the big controversy, you're doing a pretty good job. If when you're going on podcast with LeBron and Steve Nash and break it down Ball or Carmelo and doing that as well, he is everywhere right now. And this It wasn't really intended to be a shot at the art form. It was like, Hey, I don't want to have to put the whole team on my back to get everybody to the movies. We need to be able to create stuff that gets kids to the movies, right, Jess?

I think it's also it proves his point because I think it's way easier for people to see the 30-second clip and have a really strong reaction to it because it was mean and dismissive, and he shouldn't have said, No one cares about this. I would argue that fewer people care about ballet and opera than cinema and film and movies, and that was what his point was. But It's a lot harder to sit down and watch a full hour long interview and actually get a sense for what the context was, which I really, I think it proves this point that our attention spans suck right now. And so people just want to watch short videos and get outraged by them without taking the time to actually read what the conversation was about in the first place.

Mike Ryan came in here crushed today because Stanford lost to pit in the ACC tournament, which has now begun on both sides, women and men. Your thoughts, the most interesting thing things you've seen so far, not that there have been that many, as March Madness gets ready to start trembling.

First of all, the ACC tournament is so funny, Dan, because only three teams don't make the ACC tournament because the ACC is too big for every team to make it now. And yes, Notre Dame was one of those teams. I don't know how Pit made it. Well, I do know because they beat Notre Dame like two weeks ago, and Pit is a terrible basketball team, but good for them. Got to win. But the most interesting thing happened during the game, which was that some random fan was loudly and obnoxiously singing the Gugu dolls during the game.

Held to three in the first half. Doll was minor second.

But Cory hits the free throw Despite the presence of the really loud guy singing the Gugu dolls behind us.

Not sure how that didn't grow up.

This is some list to be Duke, Duke, and Duke. Freshmen, 34.

Mike loves a Kory. That's all Mike. Mike was just staring at a Kory and talking about the 7: 30-point game.

Yeah, I regret not having the sound on for that game as I was dialed into it, just standing up to a second TV because let's say what needs to be said, Gugu Dolls, Iris, Banger. That's great.

More of that.

More people randomly singing at the 12 o'clock tip-off games of conference tournaments.

It's a great guitar rift, the Bridge.

And Zaz, thank you for your bravery. Somebody with the guts to say the ballet and opera, not their thing.

Oldies?

That's definitely an oldie.

Yes, definitely an oldie. Ancient. Not even an oldie. Ancient.

Ancient. So Gugu Dolls. So you guys are putting them- Band oldies. Gugu Dolls, Jay-Z, you're putting them in the Frank Sinatra crooner's class, yes? The big band class. If those are oldies, what are songs from the '50s. Older? A time capsule. A time capsule. Mouldies?

Yeah, I mean, they're Mouldies.

They're invented a channel.

You got it, boy.

Jessica, what were your thoughts on the NBA turning around and canceling Magic City Night because of the public pressure. And I'm going to say it's just the sponsors because of the sponsor pressure.

First of all, did you guys see what Asia Wilson's boyfriend did last night?

Yeah, we're not talking about that.

Thank you very much.

Yeah. Dan, I was, I guess, not surprised that they canceled Magic City Night, but maybe a little bit surprised. And I read a really good interview with a woman who works for a worker's rights group for strippers and dancers and entertainers. She was basically saying, I wish I remembered what outlet it was in, but it was a good interview and people should read it if they can find it on Google.

They're not going to be able to find it based on the way you describe it. Let me search that. Women's worker for strippers on outlet. Search strippers, see how that goes for you.

I'll find it. I bookmarked it. Anyways, she was like, Pushing dancers and entertainers and strippers into the margins is not actually looking out for us, Lou Cornet. I'm paraphrasing there. I thought that that was very well said because there's been a lot of conversation about this whole promotion, and most of it has just been from the perspective of basketball players and media people like me and you guys, and not from the actual women who work at Magic City who thought that this was a bummer.

Check out her weekly Notre Dame podcast, The Echos with Mike Golick Jr. Yes. This is not an echo chamber. The Echos with Mike Golick Jr. Jessica, thank you. Good seeing you. Appreciate the time. Bye. Not enough Bam out of bio talk with her. There will be none.

Not nearly enough Bam out of bio talk on this show today, Dan. Not nearly enough.

There will be none of that with Jamel Hill. Maybe there will be some of it with Juju Gatti, but I am making this a Bam out of bio free zone with Jamel Hill next.

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I don't think I ever got that many roses in my whole life.

Stugatz.

Certainly not from your lovely grandfather, God may us all rest in peace. This is the Dan Levatard show with the Stugatz.

Walk me through what you found most interesting about the Atlanta Hawks having a Magic City night, trying to frame it as this is about chicken wings and cultural identity, an iconic establishment in Atlanta But Luke Cornet objects to it, and soon after, sponsors object to it, and then the NBA ends up canceling the night. What did you find interesting there?

What I found interesting, and I will be totally honest, I say this as somebody who has thrown plenty of money up in Magic City. In fact, the last time I went, I think me and my husband went, it was New Year's Eve. We went to Magic City and had a blast. What was most interesting to me, notice most of the objections weren't from women. They were from men. And this really surprised me. And I think a lot of it is the fact that we don't put Magic City culturally or even from just a pure strip club standpoint in the same category as other strip clubs. I mean, you all have something pretty similar in King of Diamonds, even though I would say King of Diamonds is not necessarily the same cultural fixture that Magic City is in Atlanta. Now, I'm probably I'm very biased because last summer in Miami, I had hosted a panel that was about Magic City, the docu-series that's on stars, which is very good and really takes you inside how this club became such a cultural fixture in the city. Could every city get away with a Magic City night, something after a famous strip club?

No. But I think Atlanta could have pulled it off. But it was really interesting to me that most of the objections were coming from men and not from women.

I'm going to make you feel even older. King of Diamonds is now a Cadillac dealership.

I know you're lying. What? What is happening to my youth? What is happening to...

It did. It had a great run. It was a short run, though. It was really, in retrospect, a store streaking across the sky. It does not have the legacy that Tootsies would say.

Gee, this is an all-around depressing conversation. Thanks, Dan. The other thing I will say just really quickly about Magic City is people raise their eyebrows when I say this, but it's true. The reason women enjoy strip clubs is it's the safest place for a woman to be. You can get good food, you can get great music, you can see women who are very athletic dance and have conversations with them, and the men leave you alone because you're not the naked ones. So it's like the best place. You get all the things that want to enjoy about a nightclub experience without being hassled by men all night.

I'm serious when I ask this question. In Atlanta, what is a bigger cultural fixture, as you say, Magic City or the Atlanta Hawks themselves?

Magic City. Granted, I don't know if I have the right to say that as somebody who's not from Atlanta, but while certainly the Hawks have had their moments, obviously, the Dominique Wilkins era is a pretty big one in Atlanta Hawks lore. But I'll put it this way. If one of those institutions left, which one would people be more heartbroken about? I would argue it might be Magic City.

You and Ryan Clarke spoke to writer Ellen Briggs recently about this extremely dangerous trend you both have faced and countless others in sports media have faced of having fake quotes attributed to you and then going viral. How often are you experiencing this and bad is it?

It's pretty bad. I would say, and I'm probably being conservative by saying at least monthly. I understand how people are able to get away with it because once most of the social media platforms, if not pretty much all of them, dropped any safeguards around false information and vetting that out. And not that what they had in place was perfect, but at least it was something. But once they decided to drop all these safeguards and guardrails about profiting off of false information, it has led to not just me and Ryan Clark, but I'll just say people that they know will create a reaction, and especially if it involves race or gender. The number of fake quotes I see supposedly coming from Angel Rees is astonishing. Flourishing. And that's because she's polarizing in many ways through no fault of her own. So we know, based off research, that the people most abused on social media are women. We also know Black women are right there, maybe even higher than just women overall, just Black women in general. And so if you could take somebody like me who often speaks about racial and social issues, and you could throw my face on a pretty-looking postcard and a pretty-looking graphic and have a quote that's totally made up, the engagement goes through the roof.

I have had to encounter this at least five times. I don't know even what else is circulating. But I just know that when the vitriol shows up in my inbox, something somewhere has contributed to that. Probably maybe one of the worst cases is when, speaking of Angel Rees, They found a way to put us together, combining their polarizing Voltron to get maximum engagement. There was this fake quote that was circulating that said that Angel Rees is the Michael Jordan of the WNBA, something I've never come close to remotely saying. And the level of vitriol that that generated. I mean, I honestly hadn't been caught the N-word that many times since I said what I said about Donald Trump. That's how bad it was. I'm just like, it really blew my mind because let's just say in some crazy universe, I did say that. It's still a basketball opinion. Certainly nothing worthy of me receiving that very dangerous and horrible feedback. And so it's been a real problem. I've been threatened many times because of these fake quotes, and I just wonder what the legal recourse is for myself or others who have had to endure this because it's not right.

Then they're able to profit off of it. I don't know if it's bot farms. I think according to the article, a lot of these mechanisms are operating overseas, and they're just doing it for clickbank and engagement and monetization. It's really, really horrible.

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I don't know that we have to necessarily start over, but it will be a Black People's Meeting, an important one that will be called the next day. We might I have to put some things on the agenda and get it on the table.

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You and I have talked on South Beach Sessions and elsewhere about you being in the office of John Skipper after a controversy that now seems quaint instead of poisonous. The idea that not that long ago, you were calling Donald Trump a white supremacist, and now all of a sudden we see everything that's happening. You were crying in Skipper's office. If I had showed up next to you at that moment and said, Here's where we're going to be in America in 2026, and it looks like it presently looks right now, would you have believed that things would have gotten this crazy?

No. I often have said to people that It's a time where I wish I would have been proven wrong, where I wish a year later or three years later or five years later, people would have looked back at what I said or said, Hey, remember when you said this, and he's totally not that way. This is completely different. And I just would have had to wear a little egg on my face. And as opposed to us being in this very dangerous moment, being led by somebody who is a danger to a lot of people's existence, and frankly, to this country. And so I've never wanted to be more wrong about somebody than I was about Donald Trump. But even in my wildest imagination, I didn't imagine this. And the only reason I didn't imagine it getting to this level is because despite who he has surrounded himself with, and we saw this in the first term, is that while I had similar thoughts about the people he surrounded himself with, these were people who grew up in government and believed in the functioning of government. The people around him now don't believe in that. They want not just chaos, but they want to break government.

They want to completely break people's faith in the institutions. What it has exposed is that for a long period of time, maybe throughout our entire history, we have operated as if these institutions that we revere and learn about in our history books were simply going to be able stand for themselves. Well, democracy is only worth it if the people actually defend it. The Supreme Court only means something if somebody is actually willing to defend it. The three branches of government only means something if someone is actually willing to enforce it. And so what we have seen is not just his behavior, showcasing our weakest and most vulnerable points as a nation. We've also seen that the political cowardice really runs among throughout our government to where even the people that say they want to protect these institutions actually really don't. And so it just really teaches you how much people will lean into the most grossest things in order to have comfort.

You mentioned Angel Reece. You've covered a lot of work stoppages in your time as a journalist. What do you think is going to happen with the WNBA negotiations?

I always believe that a deal will get done 11: 59, '59. I don't know what the back and forth is like at this point. And I know for a lot of people, they are thinking this will be a doomsday scenario because the players are pretty dug in. But I think a deal still will be done, and I think the season will start on time. It will be rushed. A lot of it will be thrown together. It'll be chaotic. But I think both parties realized, even though the players, they went through, I think it was a few months ago, where they pre-authorized the strike, which over 90% of the players were in favor of if it got to a point where they didn't get some of the things that they want to get. I know some of that has changed a little bit because they're concerned and there's anxiety there. It's anxiety that I believe that the league purposely created. We had Nneka Ogumake, who's the President of the Players Association on flagrant and funny. They gave the league a counter proposal, and the league sat on it for six weeks. I think they did that.

I agree with Nneka that they did that on purpose so that the players would then start to second guess what they were standing for. I mean, everything I've seen has played out in so many labor negotiations in the past, where the goal of the league is to break the union. And by break the union, meaning create enough anxiety so that the things that they need to stand and hold firm on, so they'll back off those things and just basically creating division and friction. And so hopefully the players don't go for it, because this CBA could really set the table for the future generations of the WMBA. We see the money coming in. It's $2. 2 billion media rights deal. They have multiple franchises now that are valued at over $300 million. The Valkeries, they just started started two years ago, and that franchise is already valued at 500 million. The New York Liberty valued at over $400 million. The players see this, okay? And so they know if they don't stand firm on certain things, they'll never get them in the future. It'll always be, wait. And I think as the money is coming in, as they're building the business, they deserve to reap the rewards of building that business, especially when you consider how many Ls they've taken to get to this point.

Of having some leverage in the negotiations.

You are a biased homer on behalf of Michigan State. Certainly, you cannot defend Jeremy Fears out here kicking people in the junk.

I can't defend it. I was watching the game live then. I will say, live, it didn't look like that. Sometimes, slowmo can cast a different perspective on things. Look, Jeremy Fears is a very- You are defending it.

I am not defending it.

I'm not defending it. I'm just saying that it didn't look that way live. On the slow-mo, I understand. But here's the thing. Jeremy Fears is a hard competitor editor. I know that people will probably look at the fact that Draymond also went to Michigan State and try to draw some correlation and say, Oh, is this the player that Michigan State produces? I will say this. As an unabashed homer of my university, you talk to any coach, they would much rather have to tell you to take the edge off than have to teach you how to have edge because they feel like they can't teach you how to have edge and play with a certain type of grit. I do think that the complaints from Michigan, our rival now, that they had from the previous matchup that was in East Lansing, were overblown and a little whiny. And now that that put a target on Jeremy's back to some degree, and I thought that was wholly unfair. But I understand why people have a problem with it, had no problem with the call that was made. I think Jeremy is a really excellent player. He's got a competitive edge, and he's got a nasty streak, and he's just got to learn as he matures how to get a better handle on that.

Stop kicking people in the junk. That's what he's got to learn because he's a serial offender.

If you watched it live, you would have never thought that. You would have never thought It's not his first time doing it, though.

It looked like one of those old-school Ric Flair ones, where it's just like he's facing the referee, and then the leg goes behind the back.

It wasn't the first time he's done it either.

I know it wasn't the first time. That's what it looks like. He has created a lack of doubt. I understand this, that people look at the reputation and they say, Of course, that's exactly what he intended and wanted to do. I don't know if he did, but I know that his reputation isn't going to do him any favors. Hold on a second.

To some degree, that's undeserved. All right, hold on a second. We've got a list here, a top five list. Top five, Jeremy Fears. Are you ready? Go ahead. Number five.

These are my top five, Jeremy Fears. We got it. I already introduced.

Number five, heights. Number five. I already said that.

Number four, a baseball lockout. Number three, my wife realizing she's so much better than me.

Number two, Dan. Number 1.

Lee being removed from streaming services.

You could watch new episodes of Flagrant and funny with Jamel and her longtime friend, Kerry Champion, as I mentioned. It's Jamel Hill on YouTube. Spolitics on her YouTube channel. The YouTube channel is It's Jamel Hill. Always nice seeing you, Jamel. Thank you. All right.

Good to see you guys.

Mike, you know I have one rule to live by, right?

Don't place parlays on multiple long shots. Don't say a game is one when it hasn't hit triple zero.

Always drink your Jägermeister ice cold. That's the rule. Everything else is merely suggestion.

Everything else? Everything else.

Wearing clean underwear every day?

Well, that's just a personal decision.

Brushing your teeth?

Obviously smart, but not a rule.

Never PP on an electric fence.

Okay, maybe there are two rules, but the one that is 100% that I insist on completely, Jägermeister must be drunk ice cold. Or don't drink it at all. Damn, that's cold.

Exactly. You're finally starting to get it.

Drink responsibly. Jägermeister L'Core, 35% alcohol by volume, imported by Mass Jägermeister US, White Plains, New York.