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Kylie Jenner, my sister, you ma'am get the Hero of the Day Award from me.

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Until a hero comes along.

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Louder.

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With the strength to carry on.

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Louder.

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When you wash your tears aside.

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Loudest.

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And you—

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Welcome back to the alley-oop. We are in the yoyo You already know I'm joined by my sister. How's it feel?

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I hope I don't go back to slangin' yayo. Whoa. Slangin' yayo to get my mayo.

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Okay, let's go there. So when were you slangin' yayo, sis?

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Never, but I always think— well, once I did hold some yayo at Burger King. But those were little packets of mayo.

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Oh, there we go. See, no O.J. I was like, we finna incriminate my sister right down there.

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Back in Tamayo. Whenever I hear like Miami, like, yo, I always think about that song.

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Right now we got Dylan on the monitors, my boy. We look, we don't know how to act. We got professionalism around here. We don't know how to act right now.

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There's things, it's just like when you go into another dimension and everything is correct except for like one thing slightly altered. Like the program is just Dylan. Like all we see now is just Dylan On our monitor.

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Keep it there. I love it. Let's watch my boy the whole time, man. But look, you know who should have had Dylan? The Cleveland Cavaliers. Because boy, oh boy, could they use a glue guy or five. How did you feel about my boys not only laying the egg, but it appears as the boys might have quit on them?

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I think that's right. Yeah, to be honest. I think they quit after the first game. We call that a lay down and stay down. You're up 22 with 7 minutes left to go. You let that game 1 go. That changed everything. I think it, it sapped their soul, their will to win. I know that James Harden does have a will to win.

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And in the strip club, for sure, he'd be in Houston probably today.

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He's already there, fam. He was probably there last night eating a little bit of foie gras wrapped bacon in Slash Lobster, the club, giving out M's, probably hanging with Lil Baby, having a little birthday party celebration. Gemini season, Juju.

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Yep. And you know, I think my boy might have been in New York last night celebrating James Harden. He was in, uh, the Empire State. But we ain't gonna kick it off with the hate. We gotta kick it off with—

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why not—

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in New York, man. Excuse me, pardon me, Stuyork, because she already did the championship. The people forgetting. They like, oh, New York ain't won a championship since, uh, 1970— since 2025, '24, you dig? How do you feel about this New York Knicks team? I already go— I'm already gonna give them best Knick ever, Jalen Brunson, all the yada yada yads. But can they get the job done though?

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Well, I'm the only one to get the job done.

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I'm probably for you.

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Yep, that's, that's the reason I didn't do the second part anyway. I think you're right. I think Jalen Brunson is the best Knick ever. Yeah, uh, I think especially when you're talking about— let's be real, he's sub-6 feet. He's not above 6 feet. He's like 5'11". When you're 5'11", you can get anything you want. Yeah, he's basically Shea, only Shea is 6'5". Yeah, and JB is doing all the same things that Shea is doing, only he's shorter than you and smaller than you. It's cool. Not to say you're short, but you know what I mean, right? So yes, I think though, when you look at uh, the Spurs and the Thunder as rosters. They both have significant issues with injuries. Yeah, so even with Wemby, even with, you know, SGA in these Thunder— no Jalen Williams probably for the rest of the series, maybe for the finals. AJ Mitchell's got a grade 2 calf strain. You can't do nothing with that. So now you're talking about Lou Dort, you're talking about needing all the games from Alex Caruso, you're talking about like Who else? I mean, you need Isaiah Joe. You need guys that you're never needing to rely on.

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You need Jared— you need Jared McCain. In all these other instances, we didn't need those guys, right? They're just nice-to-haves. And it's one thing to have a nice game when you're a nice-to-have. Yeah, it's another thing to perform when that is what is expected and needed of you in order to win the game.

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Yeah. And I think those two injuries for OKC are the most backbreaking. Jalen Williams going down was awesome. As long as you had AJ. And now AJ down too. Holy— Caruso, we need you. Uh, uh, who? Isaiah Joe?

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Uh, Wiggins? Is that Wiggins?

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Is that, uh, please?

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Jerry McCain?

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Sam Presti, help!

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Now they're burning Jerry McCain up because he's got the— they're calling it, um, what they call it? Maint— what is it? Maintenance salon. They're calling it his— the painted nails, but the, the manicure— but the manicure, but they're calling it something else. I don't know what you're talking about.

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His paint on the nails.

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There's a male name for— oh, the male, like, male salon or something like that.

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That's not what it's called. I promise it's not called that.

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Okay. Anyway, now you got him getting burned up because it's one thing when you're putting 25 on the Spurs head and you got the red, white, and blue freaking nail paint on your nails. It's another thing when you're 0 for 7 in a quarter and you're losing to the Spurs and you already got to sit your stars in the third quarter and they're basically letting go of the rope. In the Lord's year of 2026, I saw a team come back from down 22 with 7 minutes left to go. So the fact that the Thunder were like, all right, let's just pack it up, I'ma see you later, means they know that they had no chance that game.

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Yeah, Jeremy McCain is this, Jalen Brunson is this. I just saw that as you were talking, but you right on, you right on the money. I think ever since they gave SGA that MVP trophy. It's been time for him to be one now. Like, you can't just do what you've been doing, don't play no fourth quarters. Yeah, you get the Suns, you get to relax. Nah, bruh, it's time now. I think this time right here is more important than all the other time we've seen SGA. Yes, getting that ring last year was awesome. Game 7 against the team who If they would have had their star player, I don't know how that went, you feel me? I think this is the most important time in SGA's career right now. Either you finna cement yourself in stone, you can't touch me, or MC Hammer is not on the table. We can touch you, big bro. You did, because I don't, I don't see you giving this effort that you gave game 4 and it working out for you against the Spurs nor the Knicks. Because might I add to you, I do think the Knicks got a chance to take this thing home, especially when you add all these injuries on the other side.

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1,000%.

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For sure.

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1,000%. I mean, you look at all of the pieces that the Knicks have, you know, not just OG Anunoby, who looks like he's back, right? He looks like everything's back. All good. Yeah. You've got, you know, Mikal Bridges that you paid a bajillion dollars for, a bajillion picks for. You've got obviously Jalen Brunson, you got KAT, but when you're getting Ray Allen production from Landry Shamet, boy, when you're getting like Deuce McBride giving you buckets, when you've got Jordan Clarkson, oh my goodness, best hair in the game, Jose Grand Theft Alvarado, like everybody is coming to play. I think Mike Brown, this is Mike Brown's best most legacy cementing. When you talk about two coaches that could not have gone the opposite direction— when this series started, it was like, I'm sus on Mike Brown, and I think we all agree Kenny Atkinson's the man.

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Yeah.

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And I was like, Kenny Atkinson's fired, Mike Brown one of the greats.

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Exactly. By the time you're hearing this, if Kenny Atkinson ain't fired, he been fired low-key. They just trying to find a way to put words on it. Breaking news, because ain't no way in hell, bro. You talking about analytically? I mean, what, we won 2 out of 3?

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I don't know if you follow analytics, boy. You follow that?

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But analytic would have got you out the— boy, who, sir? If I'm the owner of the— um, what you say? Say it again. Just like you say, uh, pro—

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I don't know if you heard that.

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Gather.

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Oh yeah, get— tell me gather again. I literally, guys, text Text Juju anytime someone says gather a lot on the broadcast and you can tell it irritates him. No, he was like, I'm not sure if you've heard of these analytics, right? Not sure if you follow those. I don't— I see you making a crazy face. I see you. Yeah, no shit. Yeah, it's crazy because you didn't say like we should be up. You said we are up analytically in expected points. We're up 2-1. We are up.

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Bro, and then on top of that, for your coach to get dunked on, quote, is that metaphorically, verbally, by a player? He preaching all that analytics from analytics. That boy Josh Hart say, look, man, analytics are like lampposts to a blind person. You can lean on them, but it ain't gonna get you home, man. I think the opposite. He leaned on that lamp, damn analytics, and it got sunk, right? The F home, you feel me? Because, boy, what you doing? I think compound that with no timeouts from— it was 22 to 18, 18 to 16, 16 to 12, 12 to 8.

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Time out, time out now! Right now!

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Nope, he didn't call him. He lost the timeout. She was gonna lose anyway, bruh. All this added together, bruh, I'ma do Marlon Wayans style. Peace out, brother, you're out of here.

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Compound that with Game 2 where the Cleveland Cavaliers were coming back. Yeah, it was like, I think it might have been just 4 to 6 points. Uh, we're gonna need time. Let's stop them.

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Exactly. And it worked like a charm. So yeah, bro, uh, Kenny Atkinson, look, I think he was an assistant coach with Steve Kerr for a little while. Go pull back on— pull back up. Mike Brown, you feel me? Actually, pull back— pull up on Mike Brown, see if you can get a little spot, man, because This ain't it, man.

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Could you imagine after this series, like, hey fam, I'm not sure what you're doing, uh, after this whole Finals thing. Let me talk to you about a job, fam. Let me talk to you about coming on staff, bro.

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It was the whole— I'm talking about top to bottom of everything Cleveland had on. The substitutions he didn't make on Game 1, the substitutions he did make too early in Game 2, bro. Why am I seeing Keion Ellis this early, bro? I know how to use Keion Ellis. Why don't you? You feel me? So yeah, get my boy out of here. Moving on Back to the West though, after that Game 3 loss against the Thunder, Gregg Popovich in the locker room, you feel me? He said, "I don't know what y'all are on." Look, before you finish that, I know what he didn't say.

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What?

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Shit about no damn analytics.

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No, he did not. He did not say analytically, we're actually up 2-1 instead of down 2-1. He said, listen, If you don't leave back to Oklahoma City with it being 2-2, yeah, you guys are cooked.

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Capital hooked on it. Because boy, he's right. Having Pop as a mentor has been such a blessing for this young team. I think that's one of the reasons they ahead of schedule, because they still got Master Splinter. He might not be as spry as he once did, but who is Master Splinter? Oh, the question I've been waiting for my whole life. Look, we only got a couple minutes here, so I'm gonna tell you this off camera. Long story short, he got Ninja Turtles together. He made them do, uh, extraordinary things. He got the Ninja Turtles to believe in themselves when they just thought they was turtles, you know. What am I, a turtle? He had them boys doing karate, man. Real deal karate, jiu-jitsu.

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No, see, that's not what I was asking. Who in this case is Master Splinter? Is that Popovich?

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Yeah, he's Master Splinter.

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Oh, okay.

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I went, I went too far, huh?

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You went too deep. I know the Splinter reference. I thought he was actually Master Splinter was the villain.

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No, Master Splinter, Super Shredder. That's Shredder.

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Oh, that's Shredder.

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Yeah, yeah, Shredder. I just always want to be Shredder because he was cool. He had the spice here and here. And boy, but yeah, bro, having Pop in that locker room still, bro, that's so fire.

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Who's the, who is the red turtle?

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Oh, the red turtle. That's— what's that, Michelangelo? No, no, no, that's, that's, uh, Donnie, Michelangelo, Donatello, and Rudolph. No, Raphael.

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Raphael.

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Salute to Danny for the alley-oop. No pun intended. But yeah, bruh, Raphael. Oh, Raphael, that's easy. That's Dylan. Dylan Harper.

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Dylan Harper.

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Come on.

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Who's Wimby? Wimby is Michelangelo.

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He's like that guy with the hockey stick that came in out of nowhere. Casey Jones.

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Like, whoa, brother.

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I ain't never seen this before. You can fight with the hockey mask on. I can't even see with the hockey mask on. You fighting, kicking ass, seeing peripherals. Like, that's wimpy.

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Yeah, that's a good one.

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But yeah, bro, that— I think the Spurs at this point, the Spurs season relies on the health of Dylan Harper, the health of the rest of the crew, because at this current juncture, at this recording time, and De'Aaron Fox, that high ankle sprain is no joke. And that's where I say he's important. He's super duper important. But I think he's important to have every other game, I would think. Oh my God, strike that, bleep that out. I didn't say that because Stephon Castle had a, what, 20?

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Part-time lover. You can't have him every day. All right, listen, his flaws start coming out.

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Look, man, Castle had 20 turnovers in 2 games. So yeah, we need my boy Fox, but I think their Harper situation is a little bit—

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they're already talking about, hey, we're gonna need to move on from De'Aaron Fox because we can't hold Dylan Harper as a sixth man. You know that Dylan Harper— really quick side road— Ron Harper told me that Dylan Harper wanted to be a Washington Wizard. He would have rather been a Washington Wizard by himself. Okay, he said that being the man than wanting to go to San Antonio. Are you fucking out of your goddamn damn mind. You're about to have a ring at 23 years old. You'll never win a ring in Washington. People wanting to be the man makes no goddamn sense.

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Oh, come on now.

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I want to be the man. I gotta do it all by myself. I'm so good, bro.

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Ain't nothing wrong with being the man. Sometimes you want to be the man.

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Who's one that's been the man?

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Who's one that's been the man?

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Yeah, who's one that's been the man?

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SGA was the man last year. We know that. That's how they say it.

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But then there's like all the other men. Like, you got Jaylen Williams, you got Chet Holmgren. Chet's the man.

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Who won? There was a man, Jaylen Brown.

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Jason Tatum was the man as well. He just became the man.

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Jaylen Brown's Batman. Jason Tatum was Batman. So I don't know how—

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that's what I'm trying to say.

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They were both the man.

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That's what I'm saying. But if you want to be the man, no other men around.

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Yeah.

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No other man can. Ain't no other man.

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Don't nobody know that song. Hell no, I wasn't going there. I'm hanging on to every word you say. I'm like, what?

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Okay, ain't no other man, ain't just you.

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What's the first word?

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Ain't no other man.

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Ain't no— I thought you said ain't no other man.

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Ain't no other man but you who has won Jordan at Pippen. SGA has Jaylen Williams, Chet Holmgren, Alex Caruso. Who has been the man alone and won?

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Dirk Nowitzki.

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Jason Kidd.

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He wasn't the man. Jason Kidd with no damn—

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listen, they should not have won that. They should not have won that ring though. You need other men. You can't go to an abyss and be like, yeah, I'm trying to have my own team. You're 22 years old. What are you talking about?

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You're right. But at the same time, though, if I get drafted and I'm having success, don't call my momma to ask her what I was about to do. Oh, my daddy. For real. My dad. Oh, you know what he wanted to go? He wanted to go to New Orleans with his granddad over there. But I know.

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Why is he snitching on his son? To be honest, if I saw my mom snitch on me, you know what she was actually about to do, right? She didn't even want this thing.

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Unplug the mic.

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Mom, uh, we gotta talk, fam.

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Bruh, speaking of talking, man, speaking of partnerships and talking, man, I, I'm a Celtics fan now. Let me, let me just make sure people know that. People always remember that I own all the jerseys until I wear one, and then people be like, what the— you like the Grizzlies? But Kylie Jenner, my sister, you, ma'am, get the Hero of the Day Award from me.

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Until a hero comes along.

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Louder.

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With the strength to carry on.

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Louder.

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When you wash your tears aside.

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Loudest. And you know you can survive. My sister Kylie, she was courtside with my boy. Tim to the mophie, and my girl to the mophie. Yeah, I mean, I'm workshopping.

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Yeah, okay.

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But my girl bought the— you know what I mean? She bought the lick, man. You know, you be courtside sometimes and you want access to certain things, and you be like, ah, damn, I don't feel like walking to the concession stand. It looked like my sister had the liquor in her purse. Dylan, if you will, look at my sister. You know what I mean? She got a little vodka for my boy. Look at him, know what's about to hit him. Like, if you thought— yes, it's vodka, man. What you thought was in here? Yes, everywhere I go, it's on me. Now get back to— now get back to cheering for your little partners. Salute the sis, man. You need a rock in your corner, man. Round of applause.

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She had him, she had his back, and she had the mixer, right?

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You feel me?

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Yeah, and she had the mixer. Listen, chase this down. Come on now, chase that one down, right?

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You know, during that— see, that series though, when I saw— I mean, of course Game 1 was terrible for the Cavs, but in Game 2, this is when I thought they gave up. It was a play whenever, uh, I think it was about the third, fourth quarter, had to be the fourth quarter. Jaylen Brunson just dribbling around, all of a sudden he found himself wide open for a practice layup. Bro, I would have unplugged the season then if I had control. Like, we not gonna do this. 21 skunk, man. Dylan, do you got that video when the Cavs gave up? Look at this right here, dog. Look to the— bro, I could have scored that one. Tristan, I think you might could have put this one in. Look at him coming down. Yeah, I mean, this is a— this is an NBA playoff game.

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Oh my God, come on, man.

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After that, I was like, yeah, I'm— look, pack these boys up now.

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Kind of trotted. He didn't even turn the after jets on. He kind of trotted.

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Look at Cat. Look at Cat did LeBron and D-Wade. Yep, there it is. But hell, bro, you're not gonna cat D-Wade. I mean, uh-uh, hell nah. The coach This is on you, my brother. Get the— don't let the doorknob hit you where the good Lord split you. Salute to Ali.

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I forgot Ali was here.

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Trust a dog named Ali, he ain't causing a whole bunch of confusion right now. But lastly, man, also in out the West, my boy Mitch Johnson, man. Like we said, he been coaching them boys.

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Seattle legend.

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Seattle legend. Come on, man, stand up, stand up. Westside, stand up, man. You feel me?

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I'm in a mood. I feel like I'm not right today.

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You are the rightest. Look at my boy. Carter Bryant had a couple rough moments, but look at my boy coaching him up.

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Come on, you got it, you got it.

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And most people be like, you know what, some people need rough coaching, some need hard, uh, soft coaching.

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Go back out there, right?

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I think it's perfect coaching because you could tell Michael J. Fox behind him is agreeing.

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He like, oh, it's not Michael.

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He heard him, he heard him. Look, watch, watch Michael J. Fox when when he first hear it, he like, what is this about to happen? And he's like, yep, yep, he's just get him, get him.

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And he's like, let me look, let me mind my own business, but let me keep watching, right?

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He was shaking his head in agreement like, yeah, bro, you gotta do that, bro. Coach is right, you're not doing it right there.

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Exactly.

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Just listen, listen to Coach, bro. He got you, bro. And it was very emotional for my boy. He went to the sideline, he made another mistake. And guess what? Tears in his eyes and everything. Guess who came to the rescue? Casey Jones, arm around my boy. Nah, bro, we need you. We got you. We need you now. Now we gonna need you, bro. Papa Bitch got him in the locker room as well, gave him encouragement, encouraging words, tell him how fast he is. I think that this is a team. The same way we praise the Thunder for being a team, cohesive, this Spurs team is This is the first version of them. Like, this is them for the first time already this cohesive, bruh. Come on, man, you can't help but love it, man.

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They're only gonna get more experienced and scary, right?

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And if they make it to that championship, it's right—

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no one's getting one for the next decade, right?

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If you're gonna win, Knicks, this is the year.

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It's the year.

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This is the year right here. I'm picking the Knicks almost damn near right now.

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Almost damn near.

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Almost damn near.

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I'm picking Are you picking them or are you not picking them?

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Look, I'm almost damn near picking the Knicks.

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Almost damn near is doing a lot.

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I just need to know what Dylan Harper hamstring up to every hour on the hour. Oh my God.

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Okay, I don't know that that was a prediction, but we'll take it.

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It's a prediction. Hooty hoo, knuckle up, uh, buckle up.

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Ain't no other man That's the code for the killers, man.

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But thank you so much, everybody, for joining. That's gonna do it for another episode of the Ali Oop and the MIAO. Any last words on the way out of here?

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Thank you so much, Juju, for the, uh, the No Limit Soldier bandana around the neck. It inspired all this tomfoolery and excitement.

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Tell me what kind of brother got diamonds that are bling blind ya. Thank you as always, thank you as always to our brother the Distinguished Dylan, as well as Miss Rebecca Donahue, man. Also, thank you to the staff today in the levitars. So my boy Danny B, to the folks in the back, come on Zazz, I see you. Come on Danny GQ, what's happening? My sister Alex, what it do?

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What is Zazz doing in the back, man?

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He making sure we keep it right. All right, but yeah, man. And lastly, thank you to the audience. Without y'all, who the hell are we?

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Also, tune in. There's a schedule for when it is. Don't ask me to just recite it right now. It's coming. Look at the schedule. We're doing some livestreams after a bunch of games.

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Thursday. Thursday for sure.

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Thursday for sure.

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For sure.

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For sure.

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For sure. Lock in. Lock in.

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Episode description

The Cleveland Cavaliers are OUT… but should Kenny Atkinson really take the blame?

On this episode of Alley Oop, the crew breaks down the brutal collapse by the Cavs against the New York Knicks, including the moment Cleveland completely gave up on THAT Jalen Brunson layup that had NBA fans losing their minds.

Plus:

Are the Knicks actually built for a Finals run?

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander continues his MVP-level dominance

Why Gregg Popovich being back in the locker room matters WAY more than people realize

Is Dylan Harper the next big thing?

Kylie Jenner and Timothée Chalamet courtside steals attention at the game

The coaching moments, body language, and why Bryant getting coached up became a huge talking point

This episode has everything: NBA playoff drama, coaching debates, superstar performances, celebrity courtside reactions, and BIG questions about where these franchises go next.
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