This is the Dan Levittor Show with the Stugatz Podcast.
We root for America.
No, you root for the best story. You root for the underdog. You root for the Canadian team. Put it in the club. You root for the Canadian team.
Oh my.
Get off Joker.
Oh my.
What was that word?
Put it in the club.
Oh my, I'm getting all choked up.
I don't know how you guys felt about watching what happened in hockey last night, but at this point I really do feel that it is cruel what America does to Canada's proudest teams when it comes to winning the championship. I cannot imagine How anybody who cares about hockey in Canada would feel in terms of the height of angry that this year you're looking at Vegas and Carolina on the sport they invented and to get squashed out like that at home where when they come out of the locker room, you know, they're done at home. Just cruel.
I just want to keep it like it was Florida and Vegas 4 years ago. So it was probably the same reaction.
Yeah. I, I said after Game 3, with Game 4 being in Montreal and the Canadiens down 2 games to 1, I don't think I've ever felt a series being over more than I did at 2-1 than this series at just 2-1. Like, Montreal has nothing for Carolina. It's the second straight game, and including overtime in the last game, second straight game that Montreal had No shots in the third period. Like, Carolina suffocates them, and really just throughout the game, like, they have no shot attempts, Montreal. You're watching knowing they have no chance.
Plus, they had played 18 games so far in these playoffs. 2 series have gone to 7 games, and they played multiple overtime games, as Zaslo said, and mostly every game they have had just about 15 to 20 shots on goal.
Just, they got no chance, Montreal. It was so frustrating watching last night. I root for Montreal anyway if the Panthers are not involved, because my family's from there, and that, that was a difficult watch. It's such a great atmosphere, and if you're a fan, you didn't get to see them celebrate even once last night.
Oh, but the thing that I'm asking you guys, like, when Roy says there's a precedent for this by saying, hey, remember it was Vegas and Florida, yeah, but are you trampling the greatest hopes of the, of the entire country at the end? Are you— at the end, do you have to go watch Vegas do that with that record as not just any team, but Montreal, one of the original ones. Like, these people think they invented hockey. To watch these two teams take the sport from them, I'm saying emotionally cruel to people who care about hockey. Like something that would be prosecuted if it was done by a criminal.
You're doing that tone again, but it's awesome now.
Get them, Dan!
That's right, go get them!
I just felt bad for Montreal. They care so much about hockey. And Vegas and Carolina. Vegas and the cheap guy. All right. Tortorella and the cheap guy.
I just want to laugh at them. It's hilarious.
I mean, I know people, you know, general public doesn't necessarily care about this stuff, but you want to talk about like ratings-wise and how many people are going to watch Carolina-Vegas is, is going to do very—
it'd be like if all the SEC teams just like stopped winning.
Yeah, but I also don't think that's fair because we have inundated our audience with 2 years of Panthers talk they did not want. And Florida was doing that to the entire sport. And ratings, I mean, Montreal is crushed today. Like, wherever it is that regions get crushed across the path here, like wherever it is we've been watching playoff stuff for the last— maybe Boston, maybe the Celtics, the way it went out in the first round in terms of what a city does and feels around its regional identity. Montreal, the Montreal Canadiens choked out like that at the end of the season, like I'm not kidding, cruel to Canada.
I think Montreal is crushed but not surprised. I mean, Carolina was the favorite in this series. They've had this kind of a disappointment since 1993. They're used to it by now, right? I mean, they just lost the gold medal to the United States. I mean, they have to be getting over the fact that, look, we're not winning right now. Now, what Canada would say is that half of the roster on every team is Canadian. It's not like Canada still doesn't run the NHL in a way, but their teams from their country are just snakebit. They just can't win.
I don't remember. When's the last time a Canadian team won the championship?
1993.
Yeah.
Sorry. All right. So sorry I didn't, didn't listen to you on that. Roy, a watch party on Friday night, a livestream you guys are doing as part— are we doing one of those for the basketball finals? Are we doing— are we doing that? We are.
Tonight you can catch us live on the LeBretard Show YouTube page, man. Me, my sister, and my brother, we live tonight, man.
I forgot to tell you, Juju, I have to do that from the phone.
All good, all good.
It's my birthday and I'm going to North Miami.
Hello!
Gonna have a little dinner.
We might need to do it from the phone.
Yeah, let's do it from the phone then. You want to come with me? Katie Mox, you know Katie.
Salute!
She lives in Fort Lauderdale, so we're meeting halfway.
Halfway as she should.
Let's get to the catchphrases here. We have to update this before Greg Cody gets out of here. And I do want to get to the basketball as well. Jeremy Tashay and Pitch Clock, if you want your baseball, because we have not talked— there are some cool things happening in baseball and we just did skip past what I said, which is so Ohtani, a couple of games in a row now, leadoff home run last night, 426 feet to center field, and then no-hit them. And then after the game was frustrated because he walked 4 guys and hit a batter. He's like being super hard on himself as well. It is reasonable to assume that the strain on that man emotionally and physically might at some point make him human. Like, it's a gamble.
I mean, also, the Astros had a no-hitter this week, and those don't happen so much anymore. I was surprised when I heard that, that no-hitter, you know, for a few years it's like, I don't care about this no-hitter, there are no-hitters every single week.
Now, Roy just did the thing though, the dismissive Combined.
Yeah, I don't— that's to me, that's not a no-hitter. If you don't pitch a complete game, you didn't pitch a no-hitter, in my opinion. But the game ending with one team having zero hits, if it's split among more than one pitcher, it doesn't matter.
Now, what do you call it? He's asking you, what do you call it?
You're saying it's not a team no-hitter. It's not an individual no-hitter.
No-hitter.
No, it's still a no-hitter, though.
Yeah. With an asterisk.
No, it's no. You didn't put an asterisk there.
I just did. I put the ass and asterisk. You know, if you— if, if I don't know, if it's a team no-hitter, it's not an individual no-hitter. A guy who pitches 7 innings—
no one is saying it's an individual no-hitter.
Wait, the guy who pitched 7 innings and, and got taken out of the game against his will, I guarantee you he's going to say, I just pitched a no-hitter. He'd say we.
I don't think you're right about that.
Let's call him.
There we go. Yeah, perfect time.
Good deflection.
I don't need to take a quiz.
It's still a no-hitter.
No, it isn't.
It—
were there any hits?
Were there any complete games?
Nobody is saying there were. The game was completed.
Yeah, by, by myriad pitchers. That's a problem with baseball.
Lean back.
That's the problem with baseball now.
Did you forget? You forgot there was a microphone.
So far back, like, explain. Just explain.
People can hear me when I'm talking like that?
Like, comically.
You look at a box score now, there's 9 pitchers in a game if you're lucky.
The Rays, yes, the Rays go through pitchers. Yeah, they do. Razor.
They kill them.
Yeah, so they're just gonna keep throwing arms out there until they all blow out.
Do you know the chairs go that far back?
My wife is watching right now in the future, right now. She's appalled with everything you're doing.
Really?
Can she hear me when I'm blowing up? No, but you guys have to get me the shot of, like, geographically. He was about as far from the microphone as he could be while doing the show for some reason, and not understanding that he shouldn't be doing it from back here.
Usually he just leans back for like a second. Here, he was having a full-on debate laying down.
I think we should try that one day, put him in the back of the room and just have him do the show back there. See how— see if it feels any different as he just keeps floating out of our lives. The basketball the last couple of nights. Okay.
And catchphrases later.
We will get to them. We'll get to the basketball, the officiating. I really, really dislike where we've arrived, which is you really can't actually officiate the game perfectly. It's pretty impossible. And so the commissioner can say the officiating is great and we're all going to say that it stinks and the conversation problem that this league has about its officiating, when I think everyone is too good now, whether it's James Harden or, or Shea or anybody who can get fouls. They've gamed the system so they can trick all the referees all the time. And we're saying he shouldn't flop like that. We're saying the referees should be better. It's not possible. Everything out there is moving way too fast. And however we officiated things in the, in the past, it doesn't work anymore. It's, it's not something that can work. And so I really did want to ask you before we get into the basketball of it, if we're already doing driverless cars and everything else and we're already headed down the very infant part of you can do 2 challenges here, but as we perfect the technology on officiating better, can you guys foresee a day where this is all computerized?
I'm not even kidding, where the officiating is all something that is done with however it is the technology advances because we can't allow human error this much anymore in games games that people are gambling on and the point differences matter, and you can't be out there fooling the referees all the time with how you're playing basketball.
I think fans— I think there's an element of watching sport that fans like being able to either blame or yell at the officials. I think it's part of the game.
Yes.
I, I woke— I woke my— I'm having a great experience watching these NBA playoffs with my 14-year-old son. He's really into it now, and mainly because of Wemba Nyama. Like, he transcends and He brings in a new audience and my son is now one of those. And so every night I'm watching these games. I woke my son up this morning to get ready for school. It's like, hey, man, you think, you think the Spurs can force a Game 7 tonight? And he was like, as long as Tony Brothers isn't refereeing, like, like, which is— I mean, come on, Tony.
That's awesome.
That's elite ball knowledge.
That's awesome.
I love that.
Right.
Does he know that it's Scott Foster, the extender, though?
He hasn't learned about Scott Foster yet. But last game, Game 5, He learned about Tony Brothers. All right. So he's very angry at Tony Brothers. Does not want this. Last night, my son was saying, is it— if the series gets to Game 7, is it possible Tony Brothers is the referee for that game again? Like he was asking, do the referees work every game? And I was like, no, no, no, it's a different referee.
It could be Tony Brothers in Game 7.
Well, that's why I explained to him. I go, I go, maybe in Game 7, but he won't be the referee in Game 6. It's not going to be back-to-back games. So he's very concerned about that.
I'm not marveling at the elite ball knowledge. I am troubled for America's youth when it comes to fandom, that that's how you're waking up in the morning. That is not a conversation I was having at 14 about sports.
No, like, I couldn't name a referee.
I got a question. What happened to the flop rule? I thought it was a rule put in place this year. This is the signal.
They never call it.
Exactly. And Nick Wright, however, has improved on my rule. He says that flopping should be reviewable, you dig? And I think that's the next evolution, the next step, because we can't keep rewarding you. And we challenging this. And another thing about them challenges, I can't win 2 challenges and then I'm out. What are you talking about? Y'all was wrong. But we need to be able to review these flops.
It is, it is one of the most ridiculous things happening.
You were wrong twice, but that's it.
That's right. That's it.
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Don Lebatard.
It's all about me.
Stugatz.
Whee!
This is the Don Lebatard Show with the Stugatz. So this is why I'm asking the question I'm asking. I want you to entertain the possibility hypothetically though, right? We didn't envision 5 years ago cars moving around without drivers, right? That wasn't something we were thinking was reasonable and now it's proliferating. Like, uh, like Ubers. Uh, yes, that's fair enough, but I didn't think we were at the future yet. How many years— we agree that it can't be officiated correctly by humans, yes or no?
Not 100%, no.
Just need some help. Give them some help, some, some reviews.
Yeah, but each night there's going to be no officiating crew that hits 100%?
Of course, correct.
So, or, and most nights there's gonna be a lot of complaints on both sides about whatever the officiating—
correct.
So if all of that is what you're entertaining at the starting point, can you give me a date where you can imagine? I mean, we got it in tennis. They overturn everything like that. Like, is there a date off in the future where we can get this stuff so much better that this isn't the stupidity around the conversation as I'm trying to watch the world's most majestic athletes and some 7'3" dude, and I'm talking about Tony Brothers and I'm raising a generation that's talking about Tony Brothers.
I told this to the crew in the back. And Juju doesn't think it's happening anytime soon. And my timeline is 2100. Little tiny nodes all over the body or in your jersey, and you can feel the amount of force that the defender is putting on the player to know whether they have flopped or whether that was a true push. 2100.
So the way that we have a sound meter for like, let's make it loud in here and that thing moves, I can see how hard the foul was up on the board.
But realistically, they just needed to get together, man.
We—
I think we bailing them out by saying damn, it's not possible. It is possible to improve the same way it was possible to improve on Josh Allen's first down spotting in the— whenever they got eliminated, no pun intended. But bro, we see it's across the line and a referee is running this way and spotting it. And even their new improved rule is, oh, we got the eye in the sky gonna go where the ball was. No, it's where they spotted the ball. So I think that we just need to hold these referees a little bit more accountable.
Yeah, but why are we demanding perfection in our officiating? Right. Athletes strike out. They commit bad errors in every sport.
I agree.
Human fallibility is accepted as a part of sports, but we don't tolerate it with officiating. I don't understand that. I think sports should do one or the other. You either go all in like everything is ABS, everything is reviewable, everything is electronic. You go all in or you go all in on the human side. You throw up a middle finger to AI and everything about it and you say, I don't think I'm absurd when I say they're going to—
there are too many dollars at risk. They're going to figure out how to fix this. You can't have the commissioner of the league lying to everybody saying our officiating is fantastic when it's obviously not. When so many of the conversations after all of these really important games are, well, Tony Brothers, you say, Juju, when you're out here saying we got to hold the referees more accountable, you want them more accountable than a generation of kids are waking up complaining about them?
Yeah. Talk to them.
Whenever you make this call, make more reviews, allow more reviews. You can't say I was wrong twice. That's all you get to correct me. No, you was wrong 7 times, Tony Brothers, and we going to review it, bruh.
I think the difference between contact sports and non-contact sports is where it's easily, you know, you could see it. In tennis, it's not two people colliding trying to figure out where the ball is. The ball's out there, we have a camera there, we can see that, right? ABS, the ball's getting put in a certain spot, we can see that. What we can't see and review every single play is, all right, I gave you a little bit of a push here, wasn't a foul, but the second time I gave you a push, they did call a foul, right? I think the idea is We all talk about— we grew up with playoff basketball is tough. You're going to put a shiv into somebody's neck, like you're going to do the things you're going to need to do. Bill Laimbeer throwing a clothesline to somebody, like that's what playoff basketball was. And now it's not that. So you can't tell me that we're— look what we're looking at with SGA, with Wemby, who again flies into the stands every third play. All of that stuff needs to be curtailed by not calling the fouls. Don't tell the guys, hey, that's it, we're going to call it clean, we're going to call it even.
But we're not gonna call a ton of fouls.
I saw this clip yesterday circulating around on social media, and it was back in, uh, I think it must have been the Western Conference Finals. It was in the playoffs where the only time that Kobe Bryant and Carmelo Anthony played against each other was the Lakers and Nuggets, and they're guarding each other, and the clip is them battling each other in the post. Just super physical, battling for the ball, and it was like, yeah, they're battling for the basketball? They're not battling for who can draw the foul. And it was like, you'll never, ever, ever get basketball like that again.
Well, but when we talk about the majesty of Wembenyama, I do ask you guys to consider this as we're deciding the championship of this sport. Think of the structural integrity flaw in the idea that your system is such that everyone's looking at where are the advantages, where are the advantages, where are the advantages? Here's an advantage. Let's get San Antonio to burn 2 of its challenges because it's must, because they're trying to keep Wembenyama out of foul trouble because he's so important. And when he burns those challenges in the first quarter, we might win the game late because they can't challenge anything, even though we got it wrong twice because we got fooled by flopping people around Wembenyama. Think about what he's being asked to do and how physically he's being asked to do it. And as he shrinks inside of that or rises above it to win the championship, He's working against the entire system. You're asking him to play a physical competitive sport, not emotionally, when guys are clearly fouling him and Tony Brothers is the ref. You know what I mean? Like the idea of this flaw in the center of what it is that we're talking about that decides the championship.
It's really hard to play the game when Banyama is being asked to play right now the way he's being asked to play it.
Well, the thing that I think is really interesting is if you look at David Sampson and his text message efficiency, you're seeing that in sports as well, whereas It's all about how can we maximize analytically the best way to get to a win. So the physicality becomes less important. Getting fouls drawn becomes more important. We don't care about mid-range shots because really 3 is mathematically more efficient for us to win games than 2. So you're seeing this like I call it the Barackification of like the Mortal Kombat where you do the leg sweep, uppercut, leg sweep, uppercut. It's not fun anymore, but it's the most efficient way to win.
Okay, but what are we talking about esthetically here in our most beautiful sport? It's ballet in the sky. Like, seriously, Wembenyama is a freak unseen to human beings. Look at what's being asked of him and how he's cut out at the knees, almost literally, by Lou Dort. Back muscles on top of back muscles. I'm asking you guys to examine what he has to overcome here with the structural flaw of we're tracking the refs and they're not very good, and the refs can be biased even if they're not very good. They can still be biased. And also, many people think that the ref is going to advance this series because it's good for business, etc., etc., etc., or tilt these small advantages. There's an enormous amount of pressure on Wembanyama right now at the middle of this because he's being asked to play a basketball game really that no one before him has been asked to play. No one. The game that Wembanyama plays tonight is played in, in a, in a time of officiating that I think has less credibility than it's ever had. Do I have this wrong?
I don't know, Dan. Like the Jordan rules, like they were killing Jordan.
Right?
Like, that's before he had won anything, before he had even become Michael Jordan. Like, they were throwing him on the ground, they were elbowing him, they were killing him anytime he got into the lane. Like, Wemby's not getting that.
That's not the part I'm talking about, Tony. That's not the part I'm talking about. He's got to stay out of foul trouble. He is too important. And if he has to play that game, then he ceases to be able to play the game he was playing in Game 1. Like, he has to stay out of foul trouble. Or they lose.
He's got to stay on the floor. They're actually like— it's, it's like Jokic stuff where like that kind of bad when Jokic was not on the floor and the Nuggets are bad. That's what this—
whatever you're asking of Jordan defensively, hey, go guard that guy over there who's not going to be doing anything, you can stay out of foul trouble. No, Wemby is the centerpiece of everything that happens in the paint, has to be stopped by him. Don't get in foul trouble.
And that's a testament to the youth of this team, them being early right now, because in most cases you can put Luke Cornett, Kelly Olenek, Bisbach, Mason Plumlee. Let's share some of these minutes, share some of these elbows in this paint. And the fact that they have to rely on Wemby to be the only big guy on the court at one time, that's where they're going to get better next year.
But, but Wemby is in control of whether or not Wemby gets in foul trouble, right?
I mean, no, I mean, you see what they're doing. The refs are in control. You got SGA who flops relentlessly, so much so that they made it boring game out of it. And then his lawyers came and issued a cease and desist. It's egregious.
Okay. But still, you have to admit that a player has some say over whether or not he gets in foul trouble, right? I mean, Wemby can play a cautious game and still play his game, right? He just has to—
No, I would say no. He cannot play a tired game or a cautious game and still be the guy that you saw in Game 1. The answer is absolutely not. Guys, look at what he's being asked to do, please. I know that's a good young team, but I gave you the plus-minus minutes. When the champs don't have Wemby on the floor before the last game, they were +46. When they did have Wemby on the floor, they were -50. Like, it's not— he was -8 in the last game and it was terrible because he's tired and they're being physical with him and he has to, must stay out of foul trouble. I, I don't re— I don't think people realize The mental toll asked of these people at the very height of sport, even if they don't seem like human beings. The entire franchise rests on an emotional guy who tonight has to go dethrone the champions to save their season. And everything's against him except the fact that he's bigger than everyone else and he's 7'3". Like, and he plays basketball unlike anyone who's ever been seen.
You see what's going on here, Dan, with SGA. So there's— I think it's a— I think it's a pick site. Underdog, and they put together this game which Dylan Brooks was endorsing.
This is a real game?
It's a real game.
I thought she was joking about a board game.
No, this is a real game. And it's like the game Operation, you know, where you're a doctor and you're trying to do the surgery, but instead it's called Unethical Hoops. Oh, that's great. And you know, if you touch Sheik Yotis Alexander, all the— you know, you get buzzed.
It buzzes, it electrocutes you like the game Operation.
What a great game Operation was, right? It was a great game.
Hall of Famer. Hall of Famer.
They raised the bar. They raised the bar. Flapparation was right there.
So unethical hoops. All right. And that's funny, right? And Underdog Sports has received a cease and desist letter from Shea Gildress-Alexander's attorneys. All right.
This was—
this was acquired by The Athletic and New York Times. And so I'll read to you here, quote, quote, in a letter dated May 22nd, 2026, so that's almost a week ago, obtained by The Athletic, Eric Fishman of law firm Aaron Fox Schiff LLP representing Gilgis-Alexander, asked Underdog to, quote, permanently cease and desist from any and all use of Mr. Gilgis-Alexander's NIL in any and all media, including but not limited to your website, apps, social media accounts, digital marketing advertisements, promotional emails, push notifications, affiliate or influencer placements, and any physical goods including but not limited to the board game advertised on Unethical Hoops website.
Don Libertard!
He has been great. He's made great hires.
I said all that.
We've said all that. He said all that.
Yeah, we've said all that. Everyone has said it.
Everyone has said it.
I heard it first.
I didn't hear any of this, Greg.
Everything you're saying—
It's all been said.
It's all been said.
Okay, you gotta understand one thing.
Stugatz!
Me, Maximum.
That's right.
Until I say it, it hasn't been said. Boom. Okay. Understand that. You're the mayor. Until I say it, it hasn't been said. Me Maximal. Me Maximal.
Me Maximal.
This is the Dan Le Batard Show with these two guys.
Look, I don't want to be that guy, but I'm defending SGA on that. What, you're going to take my NIL and then sell it and then me not get a cut of that?
You're crazy.
You got to go player 99 like MJ back in the days. Player 2 from the blue team, like, we don't get around this NIL.
Uh, this is funny for a couple of reasons, not the least of which Unethical Hoops is hysterically funny as a game, but it's not as good as Flopperation. Like, Flopperation was right there, and Operation is absolutely a Game Hall of Famer, right?
Why did someone come up with Flopperation?
First ballot. Uh, that is true. Flopperation is so much better than Unethical Hoops. Unethical Hoops is the Operation for dumb people. You need it, you need it spelled out for you in a way that's aggressive.
Operation was inducted into the National Toy Hall of Fame in 2014.
Yeah, if you were at a friend's house as a kid and they had Operation, like, yo, let's play Operation.
It was no Clue.
Clue, Clue is better.
Clue is way better.
I'm not trying to get my hand buzzed.
No, but Clue, there's, there's too much thinking going on if you're a little kid. Operation.
I would always just guess like halfway through the game once I had like an idea on one of them. I'm just guessing. I gotta be, I gotta be first. Even if I'm wrong and I lose, I'd rather go out that way than just sitting back and waiting for all the 3 clues. I got 2 clues. I know it's like, it's either, it's either the wrench or the knife. I know I'm down to those. I'm just gonna guess. I know it's these 2 and I'm gonna guess the knife. And if I'm wrong, 50/50.
Would you go clue or that one game where you turn up the faces and you'd be like, oh, does he have—
oh, guess who?
Oh, guess Great game.
I'll bet that's in the Hall of Fame too, Roy. Guess who?
No.
What do you mean no?
I'll find Guess Who in a second, but Clue went in 3 years later, 2017.
All right, who won?
If there was a quote, a mystery quote, and it was like, there's too much thinking— who on the Le Batard Show said there's too much thinking in this game?
That's a good game.
I would have immediately said Zazz.
I don't care about racism. That would also— that's a great board game. We should create this board game. I don't know what the name is.
Guess who said it?
But I, I got to go Step back for a second though, because I don't think Clue is in the stratosphere of operation, but maybe I have this wrong. It was more innovative to me, the idea that a child's toy largely would electrocute kids. Couldn't believe it was popular. Fairly amazing to do that.
Better times.
As a toy. Oh, what are we gonna do? We're gonna mimic the country's obsession with surgery shows 40 years from now by teaching the kids right now. Here's how you're gonna get electrocuted if you don't do this correctly. It's an aggressive game.
Trained a lot of young doctors, Dan.
It's bloody. And again, The price for being wrong is, hey kid, you're electrocuted.
You had that little tool. It's attached to the game.
Oh, Guess Who's not in the Hall of Fame.
Should not be. Should not be. And so put it on the poll at Levittard Show. Better game, Clue or Operation? And also put it on the poll. Should Guess Who be a Hall of Famer? We've done this. There is a Hall of Fame. We had the director of the Hall of Fame on, and I think the stick is also a Hall of Famer because that's the original toy.
Mm-hmm.
It should not be. No, it should not be. No.
Yeah, it should be.
No.
Yeah, you can do so many things with a stick. Dogs love sticks. You can throw a stick.
Doesn't that mean it should be?
You can start a fire with a stick.
Keep going.
Let's let him work this out. What else can you do with a stick?
No, I mean, but these are serious things. The caveman started a fire with sticks, right? Civilization would not exist without the stick.
All I can think of is Zazz and his wife laying in bed right at this part of the show.
He has just crushed it today. I mean, he saved us. Oh my God, the catchphrases have been killers. No, he has never— he has never been more incisive in small windows than just being the very good parrot who hears a word and then just instantly remembers inside his narcissism a catchphrase that goes with it. It's the quickest I've seen him be in about 16 years.
Yeah, you throw a trailer at me, you know what you're gonna Come on.
The stick was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 2008.
Just wrong. Just wrong.
Wow, was that a charter inductee? Like, when did that start?
Put it on the poll at Le Batard Show: is the stick overrated? And also put it on the poll at Le Batard Show: should the stick be in the Toy Hall of Fame? No one is voting yes to that.
It probably got the, like, lifetime achievement thing where it doesn't actually get voted. You know, sometimes they put, like, a legend in that actually didn't get voted in.
That's the stick.
Okay. No, stick's got to be there. The stick begins the toy thing. Without a stick, there's no— Monopoly wouldn't exist without the stick because it's a domino effect. One stick leads to the other.
The fart began comedy. You put that in the Hall of Fame?
Um, yeah, I think I'll bet the whoopee cushions in.
Yes. Uh, yep, the whoopee cushion.
Whoopee cushion's funny as hell, Dan.
Damn right it is.
What came first, the stick or the rock?
The Rock? As a toy? The Rock, I bet you, is not in the Toy Hall of Fame.
Dwayne Johnson?
You ever play with rocks?
We used to have rock fights.
Those are fights. Those are not playing. Those are fights.
No, but it was good-natured.
That you and Paul Radke after Strat-O-Matic? Little rock fight?
No, it was playfully. The way the '72 Dolphins called Manny Fernandez Taco.
It was playful.
Lovingly.
What did you say? It was loving.
You and Radke, you didn't rock fight? For the audience that doesn't know, Radke's my dad's older friend that plays Stratomatic baseball.
I got a 25-year-old man throwing rocks at me when I'm 14? What are you talking about?
My dad was 14 playing board games with a 25-year-old man.
What's wrong with that?
To Catch a Predator is hot right now.
Speaking of primetime—
Minor penalty, 2 minutes for explaining the show. You're gonna have to leave for explaining in a very tight window who Paul Radke is Either you know or you don't know. I don't need a short explanation that that's the friend that Greg Cody had who was 12 years older than him that would come over to play.
What's wrong with that?
Your parents would be like, "Yeah, he's in the room.
You can go in there." In fairness, I did think Greg was talking about Ratko Gudes for some reason. And I was like, "Damn, Greg, that's tough." That would've been fun.
Have my own enforcer.
The thing that Paul Radke.
Damn right. He passed away, by the way.
Rest in power.
We just got that intel. Can I tell you another layer of my life?
Rest in power.
Disappears.
The mention of To Catch a Predator. I will tell you that when I discovered this television show hosted by Chris Hansen, it was hypnotizing. It was addictive. I'd never seen anything like it. It is making a giant comeback. There is a documentary on Paramount Plus that is excellent, and it will make you rethink perhaps how it is that you felt about Chris Hansen journalism, that show in general, especially if you pair it against what a lot of influencers are doing now to try and curb pedophilia in this country, which is get the clicks off shaming them or luring them out on the internet and then doing, uh, mini Chris Hansens in the streets to predators that they are beating up or shaming. Uh, yes, Tony, are we anti that?
Or I'm trying to figure out your angle here because you're saying like there's stuff about Chris Hansen you didn't know. It's like, I'm, I'm pretty good with catching predators and putting away—
feel like he was the good guy. Yeah, like I feel like that's good He's the protagonist.
Uh, it'll just make you think is all I'm telling you about the— what the best documentaries do is that. We're not making that many great ones anymore, and this will make you rethink some of the things that you may have been feeling and doing about what was happening around that show. Of course, Tony, I am not pro-pedophilia.
Just making sure.
Thank you for the support.
I want to get you on your point. Make sure you say that.
Thank you. Thank you for the support. Trying to help you, big guy, Tony. Uh, but To Catch a Predator is now making a comeback, and I do not know— not just with this documentary that is very well done, and I urge you to watch, especially if you were a fan of the show To Catch a Predator, as I was. Chris Hansen was a guest on our show many times. Chris Hansen became an incredible, uh, celebrity because he did this one lane almost the entirety of his career after that as well, because it's lucrative to shame, uh, pedophiles. And so now though there's going to be a dramatic rendering of that movie, and the clip went viral yesterday. We can't play the trailer, but we would like to play the trailer.
So they're making a docudrama which is produced by the studio A24, which is really doing such great movies, and it's called Primetime, and it's about Chris, you know, that like 5-year period where Chris Hansen and Dateline were doing To Catch a Predator. And Robert Pattinson, you know, from Twilight, more recently Batman— this is some kind of actor, this Robert Pattinson, all right? And he's playing Chris Hansen. Now granted, like you said, we can't play the trailer here, but the trailer came out yesterday, viral, like all over the place. The trailer looks awesome, and he sounds exactly like Chris Hansen. It's kind of creepy.
Come on in, sit down. That's my Chris Hansen.
Yeah, well, he does that in the trailer. Sit, take a seat.
And this whole time, me and Juju both— well, I'll speak for myself.
Snitch of the year, ladies and gentlemen.
Let me speak for myself.
She keeps doing this when she speaks for Juju and then says, I don't want to speak for Juju.
They caught us, let's go! Get out from under there, Juju! Get out from under the car, Juju! We're here, let's go!
They got us!
I'll speak for myself.
That's usually what you're doing.
I thought—
usually you don't have to preface it, put any— like, we will assume that every single time you're speaking, you're speaking only for yourself. You don't have to keep telling us that you won't speak for Juju while speaking for Juju. That is unnecessary.
What if everyone in here speaks for someone else for like 10 minutes?
You know what, I like it. I'm back in.
I kept thinking Scott Hanson, like the Red Zone guy.
Versatile.
And I was like, wow, he's got range.
7 straight hours of pedophiles, no breaks.
And we join you live in Buffalo.
You want to go to Buffalo?
Right there for you guys.
Nice. Nice.
He said trailers 3 times there. You had every option, but you were just happy with the one. Now we expect it every time regardless. It's time to get caught up on Greg Cody's catchphrases. You can find them all updated. We're in the top 20 now, although he's still extending the list. He added another one today, so it might be 10 more after this. But let's see where we are. Where are we on the list? 20? Are we at 20?
Yeah, we revealed on my podcast this week, we revealed number 20 and number 19.
All right, so we will get to those at the end of this. Greg Cody is going to finish up this hour with a big bang. Very popular segment, a joke that's been working for months now. Here it is, Greg Cody's catchphrases. We begin with number 60.
Number 60, I'm fuller than Vern Fuller. 59, where's my click click? 58, hey Butterfinger! 57, punt! 56, Scranton! 55, I'm busier than a one-armed paper hanger. 54, Georgia! Georgia! 53, I'm the kind of guy that— 52, ballin' the jack. 51, hey hey, we're the Monkees, baby! 50, thank you Billy. 49, I love him like a pet. 48, who made it to sell it? 47, We're rolling now, huh? 46, you brain-beatin' me. 45, let's go States. 44, driver comfort is paramount. 43, dummy up, save up. 42, catch as catch can. 41, doesn't make it right. 40, so on and so forth. 39, very good. 38, the Little League theory. 37, nice hat, asshole. 36, the others, they all learned from me. 35, don't go showerin' to try to please me. 34, look at that jerk. 33, it's like a packing house in here. 32, what'd you learn? 31, hee haw, 3, ba-damp. 30, I'm not gonna take a quiz. 29, sassafras. 28, would we break a window? 27, hello. 26, who won? 25, trailers for sale or rent. 24, you gotta eat a peck of dirt before you die. 23, 3 words, we are the Lobos.
22, You're gonna go to Buffalo with Bernie Parmley, 21, rappy kak!
Whew! All right, hold on, catch your breath here, and please don't put this in the Zazz bedroom. It'll get steamy, okay? I'm telling you right now, be careful with what you do with that footage, because that's him at the top of his game. That is difficult to do. He crushed it, but he's out of breath, and he was going way too fast. There's a lot of pressure on that, but they're all his catchphrases. He loves them because he's a narcissist. Okay, number 20. This is the newest one. Are you okay? You got your breath? I don't want you to deliver this.
I got my breath back.
So just for the record, the list is going to extend from here because you added another one before the— what we were talking during the show, right?
We're going to bring that up at the next executive meeting. We don't know yet. Right now it's still a top 60. Number 20: Another crisis solved.
It's a classic. It's a classic. He famously did it at the most recent PFBI. He ruined our— at the PFBI gala, he ruined the TV right before a big moment.
No.
And then the TV got fixed and he just— he did nothing to do it. Another crisis.
Yeah, we did. We played that. We played that video on the show.
I think that was a Super Bowl. It may have been.
Thank you.
Thank you for calling that out.
It was. Uh, I do want to make a correction, and Tony, thank you for trying to aid me, okay? The movie's not gonna change your mind about pedophilia, okay?
Thank you again.
But you may learn that Decoy actors were traumatized in a way that impacted them for life in a, in a part of that show that you might not have considered.
That's a better way to phrase it because the way you were saying is like, I don't know about this, like, were they doing the right thing? Like, no, we're doing the right thing. We still need to be doing that.
Again, the, the— just to confirm, the pedophiles, antagonists.
Yeah.
Chris Hansen, yeah, protagonist.
Glad you sandwiched that in. Number 19.
Number 19. Nice chatting with you.
Wow.
All right, there we go. There we go.
Yep.
Holy shit.
Love that one.
Wow.
How he says— it's how he ends every conversation.
Yes.
Nice chatting with you.
"Unethical Hoops is Floperation for dumb people."
Dan feels bad for Montreal and Canada after the Carolina Hurricanes pummeled the Canadiens to take a 3-1 lead in the Eastern Conference Final. What can the NBA do about its officiating problem? Have we created a generation of children who hate Tony Brothers? Should the Stick be in the Toy Hall of Fame? And before we get to Nos. 20 and 19 on Greg's Catchphrase Countdown that may soon become a Top 61, Tony clarifies for Dan that Chris Hanson is the protagonist in the upcoming movie, PrimeTime.
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