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Shadow Show. Shadow Show. Shadow Show. Shadow Show. Shadow Show. Shadowinit. Shadowinit. Andrew Hawkins, are you worried about the face of Emine Elhassan? I had not seen it this close up, and it is Hella swollen and that scar on what remains of his mustache.

We got to throw a flag here. Hella?

Dan?

No. You just had a birthday, dude.

I don't mind it. Hella? Oh, wow. I didn't even bat an eye to it.

My issue is not that he's trying to sound young. My issue is that we haven't said Hella for 20 years.

I was going to say it didn't sound young.

I wasn't going for young. I was just saying That's something I've said for 20 years.

You said that for 20 years? I feel like I would have thrown a flag every time.

Hella. I feel like that's a Bay Area thing, right? Hella? That's a regional slang, right? It's like saying Shady. You don't say Shady.

I believe, though, that we're deflecting, we're projecting, we're distracting. It's his face. Hawk, you played a violent sport.

Yeah. I mean, it wasn't prize fighting. I don't know what the hell happened.

His face looks wicked, swollen, man.

Did you get shot? What is going on?

That would be fun, right? It'd be a more fun story than tripping, falling, and falling face first in the middle of the... Well, not in the middle, on a curb.

At what point did you get high feet? I was asking the video people to get me... I've been scouring footage, trying to get where Amin fell on the street to see if we could to get that footage because we have cameras going on, 24 hours surveillance cameras out there. If I had a time, I could be able to pinpoint, but I don't think you were close enough to the range. You were in one of those Mission Impossible camera blind spots, whatever it is, and I don't think we can find where you were.

Yeah, it was not on the Elser block, so that's already out.

That's too bad. That explains why none of the footage revealed a man falling on his face in the street in a pool of blood. But Hawk, for the people- He laughing.

I don't know I don't know how to approach what's going on here. First off, I've seen you this morning, and I didn't see you.

You know why? Because when you approached, I approached on purpose, right side first. Now, I have a good side, ladies and gentlemen. So I went dab like this and then- Dip right. Shoulder to shoulder. He's going That's where he says, There's nothing. Then I walked away. So all he saw was the back of my head.

Sat down. Even as Dan started talking, I have a condition I call face blindness.

Also because I was reading- When I don't look at people's faces. I was reading a book like a spy.

Dude, it looks bad. I don't know if you really fell or you're getting abused at home.

Well, Amina is holding a book in front of his face as if we're on video, which we're not. This is The Shadow Show. You have been disoriented. The thing that I find funiest about what's happening here, beyond even the way he's pronouncing words, and I can hear the lisp, when he laughs, the face moves, but not the lip. The lip stays stationary because it's stapled by the scar to his face. Hawk, you explain to the people. They'll have the reveal in a second, although he'll try to hide it. But explain what you're looking at as a man who has emerged from a violent sport.

It looks like he was the defender whose face Marshawn Lynch ran through a motherfucker of. Does it look fleek? It's lit, Dan.

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This is the Dan Levatard Show with the Stugats.

Grateful for all our audience, grateful for this family of people who have held this business afloat here for the last four years, our last day before the new year, before a break. I just I wanted to say thank you to everyone in here and everyone in the other room who can hear me because you guys have done a year of very hard, very proud work on what is still a startup, and we are thrilled to be expanding and adding new friends. I just want everyone here to know the level of grateful I am because I can be pouty and I can march around sometimes and my mood is hard to read. I want everyone to know here that I'm proud of the job that we've done. I'm happy to have Andrew Hawkins and Amin here to help me sort out something I think I figured out last night. I will not believe that that Denver Broncos team can win anything, and I haven't believed it all year. I'm telling you what happened here because that Bronco uniform is not something I necessarily associate with failure. John Elway changed that for me, and then Payton Manning won a Super Bowl with a defense when he was throwing nine touch downs and 17 interceptions.

But I can't shake that they allowed 70 to the dolphins. When you're playing the chargers, I'm like, You're not better than them. I will not believe you're better than them, even if you are better than them. You may be better than them. I've seen the numbers on Bo Nicks. Their offense, points and yards for play, not a lot of difference between this and last year, and I don't believe anyone else in the audience believes in those Broncos. Do you disagree? You're looking at me like you disagree.

I'm looking at you because I didn't see the game last night, Dan. I got to be honest with you. I was traveling, and I would love to lie. If we were on the mothership, I would have just faked it, but too much respect for you to lie.

What would faking it sound like? I would love to know what that would sound like.

Let's do this a different way.

Listen, when you look at the Denver Broncos this season, they have actually relied mostly on their defense and what Vance Joseph has done. I like what Bo Nicks has done as well. It's obviously a match made in heaven with him and Sean Payton, but there have been times where you feel like the play calls are being called around some deficiencies he has. There were moments moments that popped up last night. When you look at a game like that and you need your defense to step up, well, now when they don't, you have cause for concerns going into this stretch of the season, which is the most important part.

I believe Amine and Hawk could both do this, probably off of games they didn't see. I mean, Memphis last night beats Golden State by 50. What were your thoughts? The Golden State Warriors embarrassed as Draymon Green goes zero points, zero rebounds, 0 for 4 from the field, zero assists.

It's definitely concerning, Dan, but I think the story today is about the Memphis Grizzlies, about how everyone forgot that this was a team before the injuries, before Ja Morant's legal troubles. This was a team that was right at the cusp. This was the Oklahoma City Thunder of a few years ago, where we were saying, Oh, that's the next team right here. These guys are going to elevate and they're going to take the mantle. Ja Morant is going to be the face of the league. We are quick to forget. And yes, Ja made mistakes. I'm not here to defend him or dismiss those accusations. What What I am here to say is that didn't mean he forgot how to play basketball. When you watched the grizzlies last night, that is a well-oiled machine. Don't be surprised if we see them in the Western Conference final.

All right, I got a new show, First Fake, where we put them next to each other and we ask them questions, asking for expertise on things they haven't seen.

That's been this show with Studio God's for 20 years. Yeah, but we don't have a black guy going, When someone's making a good point.

It makes you really believe like, damn, Draymon really went over last night.

This is bonus time at the company, and every time you've made that sound, I've inexplicably wanted to give you money. Just cash because of how...

Man- $100,000 every time.

I mean, Ocho is doing that for Shannon.

Hey, there's money in it.

Good to know.

The Chargers last night, Hawk, I thought, showed to me some of what it is that Jim Harbaugh says of Justin Herbert, that he's one of the best as a talent, skill guy that he's ever seen at the position. What were your thoughts on the the Judges last night?

As I'm sitting there and I'm enjoying a Carmo Machiado watching this game late night with my feet snuggled up in an Ohio State Buckeye Snuggy that my wife gifted me on my birthday in college in and eight. I thought to myself, this is what you want when you came into this season from Harbaugh. Because you think about Justin Herbert and his arm strength, and you feel like he should have always been in the class with Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, the list continues. Last night, when you got that glimpse of how Harbaugh has really brought his talent to the forefront and filled in that blind spot for him to get the most out of him, and there's moments where you see that incredible arm strength, right? And then that's where you get excited about and you finally feel like this is what the chargers needed to get over the hub.

But you didn't see the incredible arm strength. What you did there was masterful on the front-end. Show America a little of your personality before you get to the take. Take them into your life, into the intimacy of your living room. Show them a little bit who Hawk really is as he fakes his way through the analysis.

17-year-old blanket that you're snuggled up in.

Hey, it's why it's my lucky blanket.

Here's what you do. You tell a little story about the blanket, and then you tie it back to what happens to something. That 17-year blanket, there's comfort there. There's a level of familiarity.

That's what Lied McConkey has with Justin Herbert. Down the stretch, you saw it in those moments on Third Down.

You didn't see it, though. It doesn't matter. Put it on the poll, please, @LebitardShow. Do you have any blankets that are 17 years old? Yes or no? I think we've got the start of a game here. I want to get to the stat of the day in a moment, but I want to ask this question seriously. In the history of sports entertainment, have any of you ever seen the faces of someone you loved on television while doing their job look as bad as a means does today. Bob Costas had Pink Eye at the Olympics. Everyone had commentary on that. When have you ever seen a professional media face look as beat up as this one?

You're saying media because I watch Haki. Zack Hyman. Slapper to the face.

No, I'm talking about when have you ever turned on whatever is your favorite sports show these days and seen Dan Patrick with a clearly bloodied by the previous evening?

I have an answer for you. It was me. Like four years ago on ESPN, I had a massive eczema outbreak and attacked literally just my eyes. You could see how swole on my face is. That's what it looked like, except it was everywhere as opposed to just on one side of my face.

Why would you come to work?

Because I'm a gamer.

Okay. We had this conversation last week, too. He's a hockey player. This is what I like about you. I live for this, man. Yeah, I like that.

Give me the stat of the... Give me two steps over here, bro.

Got the chill, man.

Start of the day, start of the day. In this year, start of the day. Start of the day, start of the day. In this year, start of the day. Start of the day, start of the It is the start of the day. Oh, sorry. Start of the day, start of the day. It is the start of the day.

The Stat of the Day is presented by Miller Light.

Jeremy, I was told by Chris before he read that, first me, then Jeremy. So I sipped I got him vigorously from a cup because I thought he had control of that room.

I was doing some extra research here, Dan.

I get it. I know. I'm just saying that's the communication I got while sipping coffee. The silence the audience got is because my executive producer told me- He gave the communication to me. He said, I'm going to read this thing, and then it's going to Jeremy. And then I looked at Jeremy, and Jeremy wasn't looking at me.

Off me, Coach. He didn't even let Gonzol laugh on that one.

You got to let Gonzol laugh.

Jordan Love. Jordan Love. Turns out he loves Toyotathon. According to At BR Grit Iron from Bleacher Report. Not during Toyotathon in Jordan Love's career. He has thrown for 3,829 yards, 29 touch downs, and 25 of interceptions. But during Toyotathon, which lasts from about mid-November to the beginning of January, Jordan Love has thrown for 3,283 yards, 26 touch downs, and two interceptions.

Wow. That is incredible.

That is incredible.

All right, hold on. I got all sorts of questions, though. All right, so we've established Toyotathon. What are his stats during Happy Honda days?

I'm glad you asked, Mike, because I actually already did research to figure that one out for you. That's ridiculous. During Happy Honda days, which is from the beginning of November until the beginning of January, so you add a couple of extra weeks on the front-end, Jordan Love has thrown for 4,088 yards, 29 touch downs, and six interceptions. We're close to what he's doing in Toyotathon, but it takes until we get to Toyotathon to really limit those interceptions.

Now, Jeremy, how do we know that he's not doing this for December to remember from Lexus?

I can do some research on that if you would like.

Is it just a car thing? What are his stats when the Neverending Possible is back at Olive Garden?

Oh, man, that's a good one. Look all that up, Jeremy. Actually, I already have those stats ready for you. I already have that I'll go for you.

The Neverending Possible, Dan, you don't want to know? I'm glad that you have plenty to do. I want more of these assignments for the holidays to keep you busy. Look up all of these things.

The Neverending Possible normally lasts from August 26th until November 17th. Now, you know, obviously, the season doesn't start until September. When you look at the stats for Jordan Love during that stretch, 4,421 yards, 31 TDs, 22 interceptions. So not quite the same with the never-ending possible. Toyotathon What's his thing?

I'm going to need when the McRib is back. All right? Okay.

Mcrib.

To your list. And when Dalaritas are back at Applebee's.

Okay. Dalaritas.

Can we check back in? We'll check back in with him later. I want all of this information. I just prefer, though, to ask Andrew Hawkins, how good is Jordan Love?

So good. When you look at the way that he performs, really, when you get into that late November, December part of the season, it makes you feel good about what you have as a quarterback, right? For Nobody has to follow up with Aaron Rodgers, obviously legendary there. But to be able to raise the bar that I feel like he has in that, I don't know if I'm being serious right now.

This is a serious question. No, I wasn't asking you to fake it. I should have probably stayed there with you.

I I was still heavy into the first fake bit.

No, I let that go. We're going to keep working on that. At some point here, I want to go back to you and Amin and first fake, and we will see how good and sharp you guys can do this. But I really am asking you on Jordan Love when we talk about who are the top five quarterbacks in the game, are you willing to already put him there and not continue the discussion? That he's already in the top class and you would not be surprised at all if he runs through road games and wins a Super Bowl. If he runs through Detroit, if he runs through Philadelphia and wins a Super Bowl.

I don't know if I can cement him in the top five right now. Extremely talented, still very early in his career. The top four cemented, it's Josh Allen, Lamar, Patrick, Joe Burrow, whatever order you want to go.

The thing is that top five trick I play. I played it years ago as a top 10 trick when I was putting Rex Grossman in my top 10, because once you get after nine, it was tough. Once you get after four, it becomes a difficult thing to find who the fifth one is.

Yeah. Honestly, I would probably put Matt Stafford there. He's a very good quarterback, and it's really easy to him. He's at that stage of his career. But I think Jordan Love is right there. It was a joke in those beginning parts of the season where he's throwing interceptions. That is the question work around Jordan Love is because he is this risk taker. He trusts his ability, his arm strength, and sometimes it gets them into trouble. Now, he plays really great. It sucks to be a player to be like, Hey, I played really good in the month of December, the most important month of the season heading to the playoffs, and they call it the Toyotathon. They make a big joke out of it. Sometimes it's Happy Honda Days. Happy Honda Days, whatever you want to call it. It's somewhere to remember. That is why Jordan Love, in my opinion, and why he's in that conversation conversation because he does get better as the season progresses and into the playoffs, and he has that ability. It's just early on, you have to mitigate the risks that he takes, otherwise it gets them into trouble routine.

Who are the guys you're talking about when you say something that I don't hear a lot of, but I agree with what it is that you said? You said Stafford is at the point of his career where it's easy for him, where he knows. He's got such a mastery. He has done so many reps of what this is that there aren't going to be a great many surprises if you protect him, he will get rid of the ball quickly and accurately, and he knows where to go with the football all the time. How many guys in the sport, any position, are you saying that person has done it so long that they're making a very difficult thing look easy because they've mastered where the high end of their ability is?

In the NFL? Yes.

Because you just said something about Stafford. I agree with the assessment, and I don't know how many... Aaron Rodgers made it look like that for me during his prime, where I was just watching all the time. I'm like, How is this easy? You know who else does it? I'll tell you somebody else who does it, and I think it gets underrated. I don't know how many other quarterbacks have the skill I'm about to talk about. The way Joe Burrow, who got sacked a ton early in his career, steps up in the pocket. Eyes up, not afraid, steps into the defensive tackles. Not a lot of quarterbacks are doing that. He makes that look very easy, and it's not easy.

No, it's not. And that's why he's one of those four, Joe Burrow. They're young. The issue is he has obviously his entire career ahead of him. There's nobody under 35 that has won a Super Bowl in the NFL, quarterback-wise, except Patrick Mahomes. I don't know if that's a stat. I'm ready to.

Yeah, braided, when he inevitably comes back.

Yeah, of course. But I said under 35. Under 35. Yeah.

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Oh, come on.

Yeah, I would be.

Aggressive description. I mean, what is that?

I'm just saying. Lincoln.

You know what? That's me. You're just saying what?

That's me. That was something crucial yesterday. I see that photo of Daniel Day-Lewis looking like Lincoln before he's about to start filming Lincoln. You know what I do? I mean, Stugatz. I jerk off all over myself. That's what I do.

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Don't make this a rejoin.

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What is the stat? Wait a minute. You guys said- Is that not right? Hold on.

That can't be right. Hold on.

This is what happened. Not Under-35 ever as a quarterback. Under-35 presently today, active in the NFL.

Okay, yeah.

Thank you. Mike, you were saying earlier in the show, and I'll let you continue your point in a second. But when I said the word Hella, you said you were going to throw a flag. Can we get a flag now so that we can throw... Oh, there it is. Wow. Okay, there you go. We've been so quick today with that. We're throwing a flag at Andrew Hawkins for a stat that he lost confidence in just based on the reaction of the room. He had confidence in the stat, and then he realized he's been faking it, didn't see the game last night. All of you stared at him silently.

What is- I like to pay my fine.

No, I was shell shocked.

What you saw on my face, I was shell shocked. What an unbelievable stat.

I'm going to get the stat again from him and see what's right, right, what is correct. But because you mentioned the fine, I am here to announce to everybody here and to the audience that we now have a new fine system because it's going to have enforcers, and Sarah Spain has gotten involved, and now we have the Venmo Fine Bucket.

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Venmo Bucket is presented by Venmo. Nice. It's been a long-standing issue here. No one has cash anymore. Sugats always conveniently plays that card. Well, now we have the Venmo Bucket presented by Venmo.

We will be able to pay all of the fines that need to be paid around here. But now give the stat more confidently, and we will try to verify it.

I verified it.

There's only one quarterback under the age of 35 in the NFL that has won a Super Bowl, and it's Patrick Mahomes.

He's right. I'm looking at him like, Oh, wow, because it's Mahomes Mahomes Stafford is over 35 now. Braided, Mahomes, braided, nick Foles?

Retired.

braided, and then Payton Manning, braided, then Russell Wilson. Then who's that? Is that Flacko?

Tom braided is pretty good.

Eli, Aaron Rodgers? Now, I'm almost 10 years-1980s.

The point is, we look at these quarterbacks, and they are incredible. Joe, Lamar, Josh Allen, but it's the same narrative. Depending on who you're talking about, if you make it like, Oh, Lamar needs to do this, or Josh Allen. No one's done it except Mahomes. He's in a class of his own.

You can debate Flacko, but he's not a starter anymore.

He's under 35?

Well, no, I'm just saying he did it when he was under 35.

No, but he's saying- It's currently basically like- He's confused by the premise.

I'm sorry.

What is current? There are no active quarterbacks under the age of 35 who have won a Super Bowl as a starting quarterback. Where does Stafford fall into this?

He's over 35.

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Now, this is the interesting thing, because while that stat is cool, it also illustrates that six of the last eight Super Bowl have been won by two guys, braided and Mahomes. That's the other part of this, is that for all this accolades, and this guy, and that guy, and this guy win MVPs, two guys have been winning this thing.

The Chiefs are going to play three games in 10 days with a quarterback on a bad ankle. They run the risk of collapsing here at the finish line because there are a lot of difficulties with what it is that they're presently doing, winning all of these close games. But I wanted to get Amina and Hawk's thoughts on what is happening around Travis Hunter. He is a star. He is headed to superstardum. It is rare in football to know the faces. Only the quarterbacks get that. Maybe a couple of Kelsies every once in a while, but it's rare to have famous faces from college entering football because they wear a mask. This person is an internet sensation. He is very popular with young people. I want to show you some video here of Travis Hunter dancing in his home with an assortment of his trophies. He took all the hardware That's the Belitnikoff. It's not the Thorpe, although Deon promised to give him that, give him his own Thorpe. It's the Hyzman. I don't know what else. There's a third trophy back there. Belitnikoff. Okay, yeah. Best receiver- Steve Martin. As well. We need to change that to another receiver.

No? The Fred Belitnikoff. Nobody here remembers Fred Belitnikoff.

I didn't know his name was Fred. His first name was Fred? Freddie.

Freddie?

You know him, Freddie Belitnikoff?

Freddie B. From a rater?

Yes. Nobody knows who Fred Belitnikoff is. I literally just told you who he was. You did? Yes. Yes, not nobody. But I don't- I am a nobody. All right, put it on the poll. At Labitar Show, do you know who Fred Belitnikoff was? But the thing that I wanted to ask you guys about all of this, all of this swirling around him, because we talked earlier this week and Mike saying he was the number one recruit in the country, and I'm like, go ahead and look at all the Heisman Trophy winners and give me all the guys who panned out as number one recruits in the country who then went through college and actually showed themselves to be the number one recruit in the country.

Yeah, Bryce Young was the last one to do I got to tell you, the most recent crop of number one recruits in the country look like they're well on their way with Jeremiah Smith and Arch Manning.

Historically, that has not been so. Maybe something has changed, but historically, your rate of failure, it's just very hard to get from high school to the pros. But as it relates to Travis Hunter and the thing that I wanted to ask you about, now Bow Wow is on the internet also telling him, mind his money, be careful around your woman. A whole lot of adults are giving- Bow Wow?

Is that what we're reporting this on?

Yes, Bow Wow Where did he come from?

Columbus.

He is born in Columbus. But he raps a lot of cities. I'm sorry to death.

No, that's okay. One of the things that Bow Wow said is that you're being covered more for your relationship than you are for winning the Heisman Trophy. Now, that's not true, but there is this disconnect. In the mainstream, you're being covered for winning the Heisman Trophy. On the internet, you're being covered for your relationship. These are two different conversations happening in two different places. The fault line on that conversation is where podcasts and things like this can find the lane between what the mainstream media is reporting, because you will not see anything about his relationship on ESPN, on Fox. You will not see it anywhere. Because this is internet gossip. The thing I wanted to ask both of you is, when internet gossip becomes something that reduces the standard of what is being discussed on television, where you can be more personal, climb into someone's life, and then feel comfortable to tell a young man what his relationship should be, how do you navigate the distance between those two things? The mainstream media is not interested in this subject matter, but the people are. This is clearly a conversation point that people want to talk about, whether it's fair to talk about it or not.

But there's a lot of people that want to talk a lot of things that we don't address. A lot of people want to talk about rotten things that we don't get into. This is a vice.

Like my face.

This is not- I wouldn't mind talking about it. It is not for me. Too many people moralizing it, too many people that don't know the dynamics of their relationship. Maybe they're totally fine with this. Maybe they have an arrangement. You don't know the lives of professional athletes. Get out of there. Yeah.

I was going to say the thing that reminds you, though, for Travis Hunter. It reminds you of when we watched the Brittany Spears documentary on Hulu. In it, there's a scene where she pulls up to Starbucks drive-through and gets mobbed. She's like, Oh, my God. I'm like, Yeah, man, you don't get to live a regular life anymore. These things have to be... Your life has to be curated almost in the sense that you don't go to a Starbucks. You need Starbucks, someone gets you Starbucks, or you get a Starbucks in your house like some rich people have done.

Bobby Wood Jr. Has a Witteberger at his wedding. A Witteberger. He created a whole Witteberger off of Witteberger, and he added it at his wedding.

You sound jealous.

I mean, why wouldn't I be jealous of that?

They had jealousy there. I felt that, too.

Dan wants to renew his vows now. Just to get a...

Look at how amused old swollen face is with his own joke there. I just saw his face shake and not his upper lips.

Here, Val, you wore all that and a bag of chips.

The bomb. Travis Hunter has to know that this comes with it, and he has to learn from primetime that this is a part of the process. If Travis Hunter goes to Florida State, he's still an incredible player. We don't care as much. That's just a fact of the matter, and that is the primetime effect I feel like there is nobody better positioned to teach Travis Hunter that lesson. Now, my advice to Travis Hunter would be, Keep the main thing, the main thing. You're going to make a bunch of money from football. If If any of these things become distractions that affect how you play on the field, which they will, and they can, and they have, and I know many of cases and examples of that, then it's not worth it before you get to the inevitable $200 million you're going to be worth in three short years.

Can I ask the group something, help with producing of this show? Because something just happened to me, and it happened just to me, and it's a bit of a purgatory I'm trapped in. He's talking, Hawk is talking, and he says, Keep the main thing, the main thing. Then Jeremy, who's always thinking about the heat and always wanting to talk, gives me the private show in just my ear of Eric Spolstra, because Derek Spolstra says all the time, you got to keep the main thing, the main thing. That's right. Goose bumps. I don't want this in my life. I'm not saying Jeremy in general.

I'm saying- No, you are. I know. All right, Jeremy, get out of here.

No, I'm not saying Jeremy in general. I'm just asking you what I do with. He just needed to say it to somebody, and I've got a whole team of people better equipped to absorb it than me while trying to listen to Hawk. I don't need a private Miami Heat show in my ear, but he is very frustrated that he doesn't get more heat talk from our show, never mind just him, that our show isn't discussing the Miami Heat enough.

He's got to get out of here, though. That was an affront to production. You don't want to Tyler Herostat? No, but I do want how Jordan Love performs when the McRib is back.

That's great that you asked because I was able to compile that information for you. Interesting thing. Okay. Hey, Bobby.

Subtle. Can we isolate that chat? Once again, Saturday is presented by Miller Life.

It turns out that the December to Remember sales event and the McRib are at the same time. The McRib normally comes back in December. So for both of those stretches, Jordan Love in his career has thrown for 2,157 yards, 17 TDs, and three interceptions. And Mike, before you ask, I remember you were asking me about the Dalarita. Now this is interesting because this year, the Dalarita was only back in May, not a time where football is played. And I look back in 2022, only in selected locations for a limited time before the NFL season. The only stretch that we can look at is 2023 for Jordan Love. During that stretch where the Dalarita was back, in October, 591 yards, three touch downs, four picks. So not great. Not good. If you're a Packer fan, you got to hope the Dalarita never comes back during the season.

How about when McDonald has a monopoly?

Major Penaly on the ice, five minutes for rambling. For who?

In here or in the penalty box?

In the penalty box, you can give us a spin room, Tyler Hero stat from the other room.

Bring Taylor back when he comes back.

Dan, I'd like to just say right now, that is the most informative he's ever been in the history of this show. You're kicking him out?

I was locked in. I'm not going to lie. I appreciated the stats, and I wanted more.

But it was for the Spoh thing, so it's like hockey. It's a delayed penalty. I agree.

Never Come on. Keep the main thing, the main thing, Jeremy.

The other thing that I wanted to talk about with you two is everything that's going on with Luigi Mangione.

The The brothel guy.

The video yesterday of an alleged murderer who shot a health care CEO in the street, the video of him being surrounded by authorities like he were Hannibal Lector, and many people opined that he looked cool as a menace to society surrounded by this. There's a fascinating thing going on around him where with young people demographics, you will get an alarming percentage in the '30s or '40s who think it's somewhat reasonable what he did. You will get numbers that you'll be like, What are we doing here? In terms of the desperation between haves and have nots, where the desperation is getting to such a point that these symbols are making an appearance where you're like, this is real desperation being signified by one lunatic.

Well, these symbols do pop up. It's curious to see cable news, how they talk about Luigi. That's bad vigilante us this, but coming up next on Hannity, Kyle Rittenhouse. We do prop up vigilante's. It's just a matter of the crime and the cable news network that you're watching. But I think we all have to be super careful around this because this is different because he's representing a cause, a cause that most people in America have all been affected by being denied a certain thing, having to pay out of pocket, being frustrated with their insurance. This requires some tact. Considering he's becoming a cult hero, this is not a good idea, giving him a Joker perp walk with the mayor behind him and everybody trying to get in the photo. This is just making it more of a myth, and that's not a good thing.

Connor At this point, every one of those law enforcement officers get to say, Look at me. I'm in the picture. I'm in the background. That's what this is, right? That's all that was. That's just like, Hey, man, let me get a little closer to Luigi.

Eric Adams was in this photo.

Come on, man.

Because He's not... Look, he murdered someone, allegedly. He's not a mass murder. He's not this incredibly dangerous person that, Oh, my God, he could take out three guys. We got to surround him by 40 officers. That's a wild take. He's a high-profile suspect, but he's not like John Wick.

Yeah, he's not a serial. Come on now.

It seemed like he was Superman the way they were walking up.

It's like, Archum, where are they taking him? Is he being?

He is in that prison.

You felt like they gave him too much respect by having so many people around him, guarding him while he's in handcuffs. That's not a crazy take. The crazy take was, he's not some mass murder. He murdered one person.

No, no, no. Don't give it. The murder happens all the time. Okay, Hold on. Is there a difference between him and, let's say, the Beltway sniper from DC from 15, 20 years ago?

An alleged body count. But I think it was misguided. In the effort to play the political game everyone cheese in for the camera. A dude had Off-White Jordans in the photo. Did he? Yeah.

Not him.

Hella dripped out.

But in this effort to present law and order, New York got this bad guy, they're playing themselves because, again, people are gravitating to this guy, and you're helping build a myth when you're doing that thing.

He had a fresh cut. How did he get that done? Eyebrows done, too. Was it like, Hey, can I get a haircut before we go?

They got barbershops in prison.

Can we talk beyond On the murder? Can we talk about some of the macro being touched on here when he becomes an avatar for a thing? The thing I'm talking about is a desperation. Whether it's now, 20 years from now or 50 years from now, whenever it is that people are fighting, the poorest of people are fighting for money and food. The poorest of people are fighting for health care. It becomes a more obvious thing that there's a desperation, and then there's a wall between the rich people and that desperation. When you have so many people identifying with the desperation that they get numb to the idea of, Well, it's just one murder in the street. And the cause, as I told you, I've got to look up the percentages here because the numbers of people who thought it was somewhat rational a thing to do, to kill someone in the street over health care, no matter how much I agree with whatever your cause is outside of wartime stuff, I don't know that you can make the argument to me that I'm going to be okay with murdering someone in the street if it's not in self-defense.

Let me be clear, because before everyone takes what I said out of context, I didn't say what he did was all right or justified or anything. All I said was they are escorting him with the type of escort usually reserved for someone who's incredibly dangerous, over the regular dangerous people above and beyond. I I think that is just performative. Like Mike said, it's like guys are just trying to... Dude shows up wearing his Off-White Jordans, you're trying to flex. You're trying to be like, I was there and I looked amazing.

I'm hella dripped out, as Dan would say.

I have a theory, and this might sound bonkers to you, but everybody that I've floated this theory to, their initial reaction is like, What are you talking about? And then they see it. We say this was an alleged murder. He's not even really denying. We know what happened. We have video. How do you go into a trial? Well, if this guy has a cause, my theory is, what if his defense is self-defense? I got him before his policies and this health care system got me. Now, it's going to be a difficult trial just because everyone feels some way about health care. But if that is his defense, he actually gets to make the trial the showcase and He's going to put the spotlight on his cause if he argues that as his defense. But if he didn't have united, then it has nothing to do with him or the guy that he murdered, right? I think if he's speaking about general health care and an alignment among health insurance companies. I think this defense allows him to do seemingly, given what we've known, what's been published, his very clear feelings about the matter, if he goes down that road, he at least gets to present his case and put the system on trial.

That's exactly what he'll do is, hopefully, in a way, this will just be a health care argument and case, because I said it on mystery Crate, which air this morning, It is essentially, with the way people have rallied around this figure, going to be the modern day O. J. Simpson trial. I knew you were going to say that. It really is because you have essentially a case of haves and have nots as Elon Musk is running the government, making millions off contracts for the military, cutting $190 million for pediatric cancer research and health care. This is only becoming more and more of an avatar for the people versus the oligarchs. People are rallying around this guy. It's really remarkable to watch.

The numbers are startling, okay? The numbers are startling. When I tell you one in four Americans approved I've either a little or a lot of what Mangione did here, and 41% of young adults. That's crazy, man. When we're more armed than we've ever been and the divisions are more overt than they've ever been, it's crazy. Easy to me, even while I understand the frustration of the desperation for you to be so desperate that you're okay with somebody else killing somebody in the street in a way that makes him more popular by the day as he's surrounded by authorities He's wearing nice sneakers.

People are number than the left side of my face, Dan.

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