Transcript of Hour 2: Would You Give Josh Gad Your Kidney? (feat. Patrick Surtain & Patrick Surtain II)

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I think he did fine until you then made a slightly pedantic correction, and then he had to try to save it.

We know what that means. Stop being pedantic is the real note here.

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The literal definition of pedantic, someone who's too concerned with literal accuracy or formality. It doesn't matter if it's from the weekend or the week. I think the idea, the gist of it was delivered accurately.

You know what? You're generally correct. I would say that it is a life principle rule to if you know the general meaning of what someone is saying, you become an told by correcting them when you know. Except when you're trying to please sponsors with sponsored content and you want to make sure to get these things correct.

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I love that it's here. It's been a while since we had phone lines around here. I was surprised to miss the phone lines. I've always mocked the phone lines. We used to have... I don't know if you guys remember this or are old enough to remember this. You could go through some of this in the oral history, especially the super cuts, which I've enjoyed. We have done this thing before where we have a hot take hotline, and what ends up happening is Stugatz ends up calling again and again on his way home.

It's open to anyone. If Stugatz gives the boldest take, then we'll play it. Be bolder than Stugatz's audience.

The other things that I wanted to get to today that I'm hoping that we have time for, they're an assortment of them. I am I'm told, finally, after much, much pushing and shoving, you guys finally have some gas bags of the week to give me. You guys finally have two competing gas bags. I've asked you to do it every week. We haven't done it for months. We did it like two or three times and then fell right into a ditch with a fart sound. Do you have good gas bags of the week to compete against each other? Yes or no, Chris. Are you confident? You keep telling me it's because your standard is so discerning. It's hard to get. Everyone's He's giving takes, and it's hard for you to find one that's gasbag worthy when all I hear is Dan Dackage over here saying idiotic thing after idiotic thing, but you guys aren't listening to real gasbag.

Yeah, I'm not going to lie. Overall, I'm feeling less confident than I was before this segment just because of how this segment has started. But I have two nominees here. I have one from Bill Simmons and one from Colin Cauhert. Which one do you want first?

Which do you think is better? Which one do you think should win? Well, let's find out together.

Let's do Bill Simmons first, talking about the Pittsburgh Steelers.

I officially think Pittsburgh is I think they're the best team in the AFC. Come on.

You can't after a James game.

You can't claim that. I think they're the best team. I feel the safest about them if you start nitpicking all these AFC teams. Really? I feel the most comfortable with Pittsburgh. Great.

That was 14 days ago. Oh, no. No, it wasn't. It was mid-December. What's the math on that? More than 14 days ago. 14 sounds good, though. It was like 27 days ago. Mid-december.

That was after they... After they lost to famous on Thursday night and then ended up losing four of their last five games.

I think this was after the second Browns game.

That's the one they won. After that, they went on a five-game losing streak, correct?

After that, they played the Chiefs, Ravens, and Eagles in the span of 11 days, which when the schedule came out, everyone circled that as like, Oh, this could be nasty. It was. Yikes. Not a take I would have made after that Browns game.

But they were coming off of a big win against the Bengals, it was December eighth. They had beat the Ravens, the commanders. I could see it.

They lost all of those games by one by 14 plus points. So there wasn't really... Yes, they were playing against good teams, but there wasn't anyone in the league losing quite like that.

I commend Bill Simmons for this take. Yeah. Of course you do.

We got a better one, though. We have Colin Cauhert comparing Lamar Jackson and Sam Darnold. Lamar Jackson You're Sam Darnold. Look at the numbers. Who do you trust more in a playoff game? Are you sure it's Lamar? And I love Lamar. But what I said years ago, I said, There's some Andrew luck here. He's saying that about Sam Darnold. There's some Andrew luck in Sam Arnold. When was that? This was recent also in December. That's crazy. He's been saying the same thing since 2016.

Can you guys find for me? Because there was a historic cow herd take that aged most poorly as it regarded to instantaneous analysis on a famous quarterback of some sort that was spectacularly intergalactically wrong. I've told you guys before that Colin Cauhert, like some others, had figured out that it doesn't matter what your words are. There is money to be made in being wrong, loudly wrong, as long as you just get it out there and it gets aggregated because credibility doesn't much matter anymore as long as you're just getting the eyes for whatever it is that you're saying. We will get to that in a second if I can remember it. But, Jessica, I wanted to talk to you about this Brad Pitt scammer lady. And explain to me what is happening here with AI. I get fooled very easily by AI? Is this happening to the rest of you?

The thing is, this isn't even AI. I think it's bad Photoshop. But, Dan, even you, I think, wouldn't have been fooled by this. These are pictures that allegedly were sent to a woman in France by Brad Pitt, asking her for money, pretending to be Brad Pitt or/ Brad Pitt's mom, saying that he was in the hospital and that he needed help and he needed money. And this poor woman, I do feel bad because she is just getting eviscerated online for this. But this poor woman was scammed out of over $800,000, according to people. Com, sending this money to this person pretending to be Brad Pitt. And these photos are just so bad. It's almost unfathomable how this could happen.

My favorite is the bottom right one where it's just someone doing surgery and it's just Brad Pitt's face popping up.

I thought that was Mike Ryan from this distance just popping up in the surgery room. I didn't even know, from behind a corner of the surgery room because it's so far and it looks so incredibly fake. But I've got to think that if I'm regularly being fooled by AI stuff that's not this crude, it's happening to everybody, correct? Especially the voice stuff. The fake How easy is it to fool you on all of this fake audio that they can make to sound exactly like Mike Tomlin is saying something he's not actually saying?

Well, I was going to say more so where they can call you saying they're calling you from your loved one's phone and use their voice. That scares me. The Mike Tomlin ones, I pretty much always know that those ones are fake.

I'm trying to find the level of celebrity that I might fall for something like this. If Josh Gad reached out to me, that's a A really good one. A local South Florida guy. He's a local, and he reached out to me. I'm just friends with Dookie Lange. I'm trying to find the celebrity out there that if I got an email and there's a bunch of pictures, and I'm like, Hey, I need $70,000 by tomorrow. I'd be like, I got to help Josh Gad. You have $70,000. No, I'd call my mom. He'll be Josh Glad. But I'm just saying that's the level.

Mom, Josh Gad needs $800,000.

I'd probably set up a three-way Zoom with me, my mom, and Josh Gad. Let's really talk this out. How can we do this?

He'd be Josh Glad?

He would for the help. He would. Is it the Josh Rosen is a better prospect than Lamar Jackson take that you were thinking about with Cowherd?

I found a clip here. It's a Lamar Jackson take, and I want to get to it in a second. I'll be really Josh Glad when we get to it. I just can't believe how bad a joke that was.

Would you help Josh Gad if he asked Dan? Really nice guy.

What's he asking for?

He needs 70K.

No, But he needs it. I will acknowledge, though, that comedically, the syllabus count, name, and visual of Josh Gad was perfectly chosen by Chris Godee. Just as someone randomly calling you and they've got a name and the name is Josh Gad, I don't think you could have picked a better celebrity for me to let that go to voicemail because I don't want to cash that favor. Whatever is needed there. Wow.

Okay. If it's the money and the amount, which would you rather give Josh Gad in a time of peril? A A kidney or $70,000? Mine or my mom's. Your kidney, but it's free.

Well, I guess if the person, even if they're a scammer, actually needs the kidney, at least the kidney is going to a good place. Whereas if you're just giving them money, they're just blowing this on something, right?

No, he needs a kidney, but it's either your kidney or $70,000. You can buy a kidney on the black market.

But someone's getting a kidney.

Josh Gad is getting a kidney. No matter what. Josh Gad is getting a kidney.

Actual Josh Gad. Yeah, he needs one. Okay, I thought this was scammer Josh Gad.

No, No, Josh Gatt needs one.

Don't get a kidney to a stranger is like, even if you're scammed out of it, it's a good thing to do, I guess.

I was just doing this more along the lines of an email I would actually believe. Whereas Brad Pitt, I'd be like, someone's messing with me. Whereas if it was Josh Gatt, I'd be like, This is so random.

Which is why this is insane. This woman was like, Oh, I guess it makes sense. Brad Pitt's calling me.

If I'm an organ donor and Josh Gatt needs my kidney, and I'm donating my kidney to Josh Gatt, who pays the copay? Do I to pay my insurance to donate a kidney to Josh Gatt? I think you both have to pay for it. Because there's a medical procedure that's taking place that presumably my insurance will cover, which I'm sure they'd ask, Why are we covering an elective surgery where you're donating kidney? But do I pay to donate my kidney, or does the recipient?

Maybe some people's insurance covers both surgeries.

You would think, right? That's a good question. Like a car accident situation.

You say it's a good question, Jessica, but I will show you and have to show you, and it's not just because I've been sipping here Cuervo for about 40 minutes. I need to shine a light on what Billy just did there, which is he turned a conversation we were having that was already absurd about Josh Gad asking Chris Coty for money. He needs our help. Then made it about a kidney instead the money. Then made it about copay when all I want is the Lamar Jackson sound. I'm only- My time.

I've learned Gad would be paying the copay.

I am only willing to go so far with Billy on this He's making me Josh Sad. I want to play the Lamar Jackson sound on Colin Coward, please. This is the analysis as Lamar Jackson is coming out of college.

I've said, Lamar Jackson, a more talented version of Tim Joe, and all he gets is pushback. All I get is pushback. I say, No, you watch what's going to happen. Baltimore and Denver were proud franchises with Super Bowl. They're getting very frustrated with their head coach on the in the hot seat. Both guys were overdrafted. Both guys are projects, not prospect. Tim Tebo was a project. He was never a prospect. Lamar Jackson is a project. He's not Sam Darnold. He's not Josh Rosen. You watched them last night. He's not even close. Here you have a young quarterback who runs right now better than he throws, and he's new, flashy, and fun, and he's hope. He is hope. Now, add Twitter and stir. Lamar Ball is what we may be calling him by November. Of course, Lamar is not close. I've never thought he was close. That's why I keep calling him a project. I never call him a prospect. Sam Darnold is a prospect. Okay, Baker Mayfield is a prospect. They'll play this year, and they'll be able to move the change. They'll be able to move the chains. They'll be able to go. No, no.

This is a project.

The fake Brad Pitt said he had kidney cancer and needed a loan because his bank accounts were locked as a result of his ongoing divorce with Angelina Jolie. Well, there was a kidney involved.

Dan, would you give Pitt your kidney? You guys see Tebo's having a baby, speaking of Tim Tebo?

I saw that everywhere yesterday.

He seems like he'd be a fun dad, but also go out for a catch. He'd be throwing pretty hard. Right? Taking things very seriously. Yeah.

I need to- I need the baby is going to come out in Tebo? Remember teboing? Oh. What a craze.

I need to hear this list again of quarterbacks that Lamar Jackson is not. He's not Sam Darnold. He's not Josh Rosen. You watched them last night. He's not even close. He's not Sam... Josh Rosen, that's true. He's not close to either one of them. He's not wrong about that.

I saw this on Twitter. I need to credit who posted this, one of my Calgorithm friends. Cal's had more quarterbacks starting the Super Bowl than USC. Wow.

Do you know that? We're going to have Patrick Sertan on with us in a little bit. Patrick Sertan was the greatest cornerback in Miami Dolphins history, and Patrick Sertan, his son, is now the favorite for Defensive Player of the Year, which took me aback because when's the last time a corner one Defensive Player of the Year? Their pass rush was so good, at least in part because Patrick Sertan was able to always cover the number one receiver well. He was unbelievable as a corner.

2019, Stefan Gilmore, 2009, Charles Woodson before that, so it's very rare.

Man. All right. Both of them. Father and son, next.

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This is the Dan Levatard show with the Stugatz.

Stugatz, what a thrill this is. You might see right in front of you right now what might be the best cornerback in Dolphins history and is the second best cornerback on this particular call. I think I can say that. I could probably say it better than that if I had another chance at it. But what we have on the line here One cornerback is a three-time Pro bowler and an all-pro selection at cornerback. But the other is also a three-time Pro bowler and a two-time first-team all-Pro selection at quarterback, and he's done it in four seasons. So I'm guessing that it breaks Patrick Sertan's heart and fills his heart to say publicly as a cocky cornerback that his son is already better than he is.

Dan, I have told you, Patrick, I have told I understand this a number of times. It is always better to watch your kid do it than do it yourself. So I am guessing you're totally fine with your son being the best cornerback in the family.

I'm totally fine with it. I didn't want to relinquish the title quite yet, but it's obvious.

Well, but do I say anything that's incorrect? Patrick Jr. Or Patrick II, excuse me, can you tell me whether or not, what memories do you have of your father's greatness? Did you know he was great?

Yeah, I knew he was great later down the lines. Before, I was a bit younger, so I don't remember it vividly, the times when he played for the Dolphins, but I still can recall memories back in the day when he played with the Chiefs, and I knew instant greatness right away. That's when I realized the type of play he was.

Patrick Senior, do you regard yourself as the best defensive back or the best corner in Dolphins history?

I do. I do, Basically, I played with the other greats in Sam Madison, played with Tee Buck. But I just think the number of years I was there, seven years, the stats I was able to accumulate, the Pro Bowl, just being an all-around player, played in the slot, got seven and a half sacs, obviously 37 pics. It's up for debate, but I think by my time here and the work that I put in, I definitely would consider. If you ask anybody else that question, they would say the same thing.

Patrick Jr, did you know those stats of your father's seven and a half sacs? How many sacs you got?

I don't got no sacs. He got the upper stamp on me right there. I didn't get no sacs on the QB yet. That's a I'm trying to accumulate as well.

But wait a minute. The reason that your teammates got as many sacks got more sacks than anyone in the NFL this year is because you're back there as defensive player of the year covering people. So you didn't get the sacks, but you got the sacks.

Yeah, I could say I help along the lines of the sacks. I could put my name in it for sure, help the guys get some pressure a little bit. They helped me as well, too. But my coverage in the back end helps a lot, too.

So you could say that. Who do you regard as in your class as a corner? Stingley, obviously, this postseason is getting a lot of talk, but I think you're the favorite to win defensive player of the year. Who do you regard as good as you at this?

I mean, that's a good question. Obviously, everybody got their tears of corners. I solidify myself consistently these past couple of years, so I could definitely say I'm at the top of the game right now, honestly, for myself. But, yeah, Stingley, he's had a great year, all-Pro year. He's a great cornerback. Jalen Ramsey, another dude that's been doing consistently, Sausse Garner, those guys, for sure. Slay. I don't know. It's just a lot of good corners in the lead that you could put in that class for sure, because with the lead now, it's transients to a passing game, so you need a lot of good corners in this league. You could name a whole bunch. It couldn't be wrong.

But do you think you're the defensive player of the year?

Yeah, I believe so. I think my tape speaks for itself on what I'm able to do this year. Hold a number on the servers, like under 30 yards, damn every game. So I think the stats, the tape, the measurable speaks for itself. So why not?

Dad, what's the game you saw that you were like, Oh, he can shut down anybody? There are any games that you're a little scared before it because you're like, Okay, this one's a challenge for my son?

Not really, because I've seen him do it for so long. Just going back to high school, college, and I can't really remember his rookie year, where they just lined him out there like, You got this guy, man. And he was playing with some veteran guys, and around the derby, and Justin Simmons back there. And they had trust in him from day one to go out there and handle his business on the perimeter. And as the years have gone by, he progressed in his game. And now he's probably one of the rare cornerbacks in the game that follows the number one receiver. And I think that alone, and being able to shout those guys because the receivers now, man, they're so good. They're coming into the pros ready made. They're really good players. For him to go and follow the top guys each and every week, it says something about him and says how much trust that the coaching staff has in him.

Patrick, I'm wondering what it was like playing for your dad in high school knowing that you were better than he was.

No, I wasn't better than him just yet. But it was a great experience. It was moments that I would cherish forever, being able to be by side, seeing him coach at a high level. Him building young kids and turning them into young men is pretty inspirational to look at it from that perspective because he wasn't just coaching me. He was coaching a band of younger guys as well, too. So seeing that and being a part of that process and experience, I enjoyed it. It's something I take with me forever. Hopefully, we'll cross ties again, maybe, but who knows?

Was he hard on you? Did he yell at you?

Yeah, of course. He'll tell you himself. He was definitely hard on me. I learned a lot from those experiences. It was something that made me better as a player and as a person. Those tough learning lessons that I learned from him. It just made me become wiser and I understood that he wanted what's best for me at the end of the day. You need some tough constructive criticism to reach to this point And I wouldn't want it any other way. So I'm very thankful for that, for sure.

Patrick Senior, I coached my daughter in lacrosse for 10 years, and she ended up going to Northwestern. It's like the Alabama of women's lacrosse, okay? And so I am Patrick Senior, I am wondering if you did this because I did it all the time. I would go out of my way to yell at my daughter because I wanted to save face with the rest of the team. Did you?

There were some times, but it's crazy because I didn't have any clue that I wanted to coach. But when I retired, I had to do something. He was at the park, and I was just this crazy dad in the stands just yelling at people and everything. So my thing was, I'm out here, so I might as well help and start coaching. But I tried to treat him as equal as I can as all the other players. I didn't want to make an example, but at some point in time, I had to make an example with him to let the other guys know that he yelled at his son. The rest of us could get it, too. But you have to know how to separate the two. I was coach at the school and on the football field, but at home, I was dead. So I think it worked out pretty good.

Hold on, though. When you played Sam Madison was the talker. You didn't have much of anything to say to anybody. You were better than everybody, and you didn't say much of anything. Are you telling me that in the stands at his games before you were a coach, you couldn't shut up because you were yelling at everybody?

Dan, I was nuts. I was nuts in this stand, I didn't know where it came from. Just yelling at people. I remember one game I was on the sideline. He's running for a long countdown. I'm running down the sideline, and I knock a kid over. I'm like, Oh, man, what am I doing? So it was just the excitement of seeing your kid out there doing special things, man. It just bought a certain energy and feeling out of me.

Wait a second. Are you saying that you're sprinting right past him as he returns a pick six for a countdown? You're just running next to your son? So good.

He actually played running back, so he was running down the field, scoring a countdown. I'm running the same directions as him, full speed. There was a little kid. I think the kid was like eight years old, ran clean over the little kid.

That's embarrassing. It is. Wait a minute. Who's more embarrassed there? Certainly your son is embarrassed. Is he not?

I don't think he sucks because he's out running me, so he's a little bit ahead of me. But yeah, man, sorry to the kid.

Well, but But so explain this part to us. When you have the gratitude and the swelling of what is really proud love, what is the height of being moved by watching him play?

Just seeing him compete, man. I remember, I think two years ago, he had two piques against the chargers, and he came to the stands and handed me the ball, and I'm knocking people over, get out of the way. That's my ball, getting the ball and going back, man. But it's also because when you're out there actually playing the game, you're in control of everything, so there's no words. Just is out there playing. But as a dad, and I know Steve spoke about it earlier, but as a dad and the father watching your kid play, even at this level, you get anxiety because you wanted to do so well. And everybody's expecting him to go out there and hold guys to zero catches them. And when he gives up one, people are like, oh, my God, which is part of the game. Like I said, a broken clock is right two times a day.

Justin Jefferson is not a broken clock, Justin Jefferson. I don't know. Cee D. Lamb is not a broken clock. I don't know. I'm listening to Patrick, but I'm looking at these extraterrestrials who are playing wide receiver, and I got to tell you, dad, they're a lot larger than the ones you were guarding. They're a lot faster.

They're a lot faster than the ones you were.

Randy Moss I'm not going to let you do that. No. We're talking about Randy Moss and Terrell Loews and Marvin Harrison. That's all the famous now. That's the guys we had to go against.

Okay. Just back off. You know what? I stand corrected. Okay. Fair enough.

I got you, Patrick.

I got you. Fair enough. I'm sorry. I deserve that for the disrespect. But I do marvel at the people your son is covering, and I don't know who he respect so much that he would say, Yeah, that's a person who keeps me up a little the night before because I know that's going to be the challenge that's about as good as I am.

Yeah. Like you said, there's some excellent receivers in the lead, but he doesn't shy away from it, man. He relishes the opportunity. We'll talk before the game. I'm like, You're matching up this week? Of course I am. He looks forward to the opportunity. That's the comparability he is. That's the work and the film study, the habits that he's created from it himself. He's always up for the challenge, and The thing I love about it, he shows no fear, man. He give a play up. He's out there next play in his face, relishing the opportunity to go against the very best. For my money, man, the things he did, the way that his defense turned around, he definitely deserves defensive player of the year because no other corner player has the responsibilities that he has, and to go out there and shut guys down and do it at a very high level, man, it speaks volumes.

Eric mold's two times a season. Get the out of here. What do you do? You're insulting the man.

Fair enough. Eric Molds was also a handful. But give me some names. Give me the guys, Junior, that keep you up just a little bit. A little extra sleepless.

I'll just give you a gauntlet from this year. I had some pretty good receivers. First game, I started off with DK, Metcalf. You know his body work. He's one of the different receivers who could lift the whole weight room, one of them extraterrestrial receivals. So I just think that was the first one where I was like, okay, I know I got a Gotland coming up this year. Then shoot the next week, I had George Pickens. Obviously, he put his I came out there this year for sure, made plays for them boys on that playoff run. Then I had to go up against Mike Evans. Mike Evans, he a Hall of Famer, does it consistently each and every year. Then Gary Wilson. Then the list goes on. Then I went up against you, Marcia.

You're just looking at your schedule. Do you have a schedule magnet on your computer right there?

I got your dad had a tough one.

I got to be honest. I'm just going through the schedule, man. Before the season, I'm like, Okay, I know what's your receiver's I got to go up against this year. So it was definitely... I was up for the challenge. So yeah, I was looking forward to it for sure.

Dad, is there anything in his physical mannerisms that you're watching him or that anyone in your family is watching and they see you in him when he's playing?

I just say the thing I marvel at and looking back at what I did, I just say the technical aspect. And just being able to stay in front of guys, man, that's a skill in itself. And just the technique, the confidence, just all that, man, that it takes to play a cornerback in this league at a high level. I see those same traits of him that I had in myself, the playmaking ability, It's just being able because people don't understand, man. There's different body types of receivers that you got to go against, especially at his size, and to go against a D. K. Metcaves and then go against the quick guys like a Gary Wilson, then a guy like Jamal Chase. The same thing when I played, we had to go against a Randy Moss or a TEO, then come back and go against a little guy more than ever. People don't understand that those matchups are tough because you're going against different guys. They present different challenges to you as far as quickness, power, speed, all that stuff. To be up and added every week, it takes discipline. It takes the right mentality. That shows why he's the best in the game.

Junior, what does dad have to say to you after the game when his Miami Dolphins have put 70 points on your defense?

I can't even talk about that game. I can't even lie. That was a game that haunted me for the next week's after because I wasn't expecting that. Obviously, I was going home, was expecting a good game, going to see family. I had 20 plus, 30 plus family members there. You know what I mean? Even pop showed up before the game, too. So I was excited. I was ready to put on the show. Then next thing you know, the game just went left. And I look up, it was about 50, then it went to 70. I'm like, Man, I'm done with this game. I can't even be as excited anymore seeing him because we put up that performance. But I think I felt instant relief and gratification when I was able to see family members. That made my day much better. So Yeah, that's the experience I don't want to relive ever again.

Okay, I'm sorry I did that to you, but your dad seemed to be laughing. Your dad did seem to be-I mean, everybody, no, that was quite bad.

Just for the record, I surprised him. He didn't know I was coming, so I surprised him, came on the field pregame and everything. And just for the record, by the end of the... About two minutes left in the third quart, I was drunk. So I knew the score. But the thing about it, they were down, and Mike McDaniel kept throwing the ball. I'm like, Oh, see, he's trying to break records on him. But I was in club live watching the game. It was over for me. Your son was suffering. Yeah, it was over.

Bad thing about it was it was humid. It was hot. We were getting woke in the sun. And that was-Well, your dad went to get drunk in the club.

While you're suffering on the football field. You're allowing 70 points, and you're He's hammered before the fourth quarter.

I was watching out of one eye.

So what you were doing, you're saying you were basically drinking to make the pain go away, is what you're saying.

Oh, man, that's one of those games, man. That's like the Jacksonville playoff game. They should have had liquor at halftime for us.For.

The players.For.

The players, absolutely.

As he told you about that one, does your son know the score of that game? The game that sent Dan Marino into retirement. Does your son even remember the score of that game?

He's a student of the game. He may not know, though. That was bad.

Your father allowed Jimmy Smith and the rest of those receiver-I mean, Jimmy Smith and the rest of those receiver to beat Dan Marino in his final game, 63 to 7 in a playoff game.

Who's laughing now, Patrick? It wasn't Jimmy Smith, man. It was Fred Taylor. I knew it was over. I knew it was over. First time in the game, Dan threw the pick six, and the water sprinklers come on. It was over after that.

At least we put 20. I mean, shoot, we still though. It was Moreno's last game.

That was it.

Yeah, I don't remember that one. I don't.

Sorry, Dan.

Guys, thank you and congratulations. It really is a delight to see the sun pick up the father's craftsmanship and take that Sertan legacy and make it something that shines even brighter than it did in Miami, where it shown plenty, plenty bright. Thank you, gentlemen.

Appreciate it, dad. Thanks for having us. Thank you, guys.

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