Transcript of Hour 2: The 32nd Royal Synchronicity Day (feat. Amin Elhassan)

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This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats podcast.

Have not talked yet today about a bit of heartbreaking NFL news that appeared yesterday. Rick Rex Ryan was sobb the games talking on television about the death of Nick Mangold at 41 years old. It is very rare in that sport for the center to have that kind of fame to be so excellent. I know that Jason Kelsey has gotten there later in life. You know, Dwight Stevenson, Kevin Mawai, Mike Webster. But there aren't many centers who were so good that people know their names. This is one of the best jets there have ever been. And for him to die at 41 years old and not be able to find a kidney transplant makes me think that the last few years of a very young life had to be pretty terrible in terms of how he felt and how scary it must be to live with the daily discomforts and fears of not knowing where you're going to get a kidney and then to pass away before you get the kidney. He was the rare center who got commercials, not just because he was in New York, but because he was that great. That organization has not had a lot of excellence ever in all of its Time.

It is a. We talked about Myles Garrett earlier. Nick Mangold wasted his career in New York, but they were better than they ever have been, except when they had Joe Namath and surprised everybody a million years ago when Nick Mangold was at the center of everything they were doing. They made it to deep into the playoffs, AFC championship games. They made Rex Ryan somebody. Nick Mangold is at least partly responsible for making Rex Ryan's career.

Yeah, I don't know that I would say that he wasted his career with the jets when they appeared in two AFC championship games. You know, they're.

That.

That's.

They were relevant for five years of that Rex Ryan experience.

Yeah, I remember his story was when they did Hard Knocks. His story and his, you know, negotiation for a new contract was a major part of that season of Hard Knocks. He was. He was a big part of that season. My wife's entire family, a Jets family, to speak to his personality. My wife's favorite player during that era was Nick Mangold, which I've never heard said about a center before.

He had a ton of personality. He was fun. It just was. It wasn't just the mane of hair. Like, he had commercials. They weren't regional commercials. He had national commercials, Pepsi commercials. He was. He was among the most famous jets, and it was based on excellence. You're right to correct me there, Zaz. He didn't waste his career there because they had more success than they've had as a franchise. But it was at least in part because he was at the center of everything. And there's a South beach session coming out shortly in which Vince Wilfork, obviously a very tough man. Vince Wilfork, I believe, was at the center of the Butt Fumble because he was throwing that person back into Mark Sanchez. There was only one human being ever that Vince Wilfork said was, whoa, I'm surprised that this man can handle me one on one. Usually it takes two men. Listen to Vince Wilfork in an upcoming episode of South Beach Sessions talking about Nick Mangold.

You know, the one guy that I could say that held his own, and I love him to death, is Nick Mango. Nick was very, very good. Nick. Nick was smart. Nick was strong. He was big. He could move. Nick, out of all the centers I played against, he is probably the most complete center that I played against. And I had to play against him twice a year. You understand? He was really, really good. And we had battles. You know, we had some battles. And he is one of those guys that if somebody needs to get blocked, single he can hold his own.

One of the few.

Yeah, yeah.

He don't need the double teams and all that. Like, he can, he can hold his own by himself, you know, and it might be some more out there, but for me it was Nick. Like, he was just. He was just good.

I can't tell you how rare it is for hurricanes to speak that kind of respect of anybody by name. They just don't do that of that ilk, that. That time period. Guys that good with the Hurricanes, you have to beat the respect out of them. And n. Nick Mangold was just a physical beast and a personality that somehow got to stardom at center in New York. And, and I know Jason Kelsey has made it more common recently, but Nick Mangold did it first. And I'm not sure, like, even when I mentioned these other centers, Dwight Stevenson, Mike Webster, it wasn't personality based. It was excellence based. It wasn't the combination of excellence and charisma that would make. Make alignment, you know, your family members, favorite players.

No, I agree. He had the mane of hair and the personality and the market to become a star. And he got there and I was shocked to hear he died for the reason he died. Because sometimes we mistakenly think that if you're a celebrity, if you're wealthy, you sort of cut to the line. Cutting the line on. On the. The transplant list, but it isn't always true. He had to wait his turn. And the fact that he died without a transplant is really heartbreaking at 41.

And he probably would have had a really great media career, but he's been battling this for some time. Really intelligent guy. Centers that sneaky have to be like the smartest people on the field to identify everything there is on the field and help the quarterbacks out there. It's a. It's a real damn shame. It transcends the position really, to have someone like that and you feel it, you feel it. And it was kind of heartbreaking to hear Vince, I know he's talking about Nick, Nick's time as a player, but this was known in NFL circles. And to hear Vincent just in that clip talk about Nick as someone that was here was sad.

Greg, the other thing too, I don't think it's about the cutting the line or celebrities and people with access to money and stuff get to the front of the line. He had multiple kidneys that just didn't match with his body.

Oh, that's what I was wondering. Like there was no one he knows that attempted to give him and he.

Would reach out on Social media, social.

Media was especially painful to see because he's just like trying to beg no match whatsoever.

And it's like you could be at the top of the list forever, but if there's no match that actually matches with your body, then you can't do it. My father in law actually had a double lung transplant two years ago. So we're, me and my family are very familiar with this process and thank God he was able to find lungs that matched. That's why it's so important to be an organ donor because you never know who's going to need something down the line, especially if you're healthy. So it's crazy to see like something like that as a kidney where kind of anybody can give a kidney, we can kind of function with one. But when you don't have a match like that, it's just really sad to see.

Rex Ryan couldn't get through the first words of when Mike Greenberg announced the news and announced it, you know, was sad to announce the news threw it to Rex Ryan. Rex Ryan could not get through the first sentence without breaking down because he knows how responsible Nick Mangold was for the excellence that came Rex Ryan's way. And also, and he told the story of Nick Mangold while being injured. It's part of where he broke down while being injured wanting to play and demanding to play on Rex Ryan's last, last game when they knew that he was going out because he wanted to be out there for him. So forgive me for not having the proper transition to pull out of this story, but this was the start of the NFL Sunday and it was, it was moving to see Rex Ryan that kind of wounded on television in a, in a way that was connected really human between coach and player. And all of us, I guess sort of can feel the mortality of someone losing their life the that young at 41 years old.

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Dan Levatard.

Sports stugats.

More sports.

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.

So I will transition awkwardly into some of the other stuff that that Greg Cody wants to talk about, because Greg Cody is primed and ready here. You've recovered from your olive experience.

You're getting over it.

You're.

You're filled with sodium.

More like brined and ready. And coffee.

Don't forget the coffee, Dan.

Yeah. And how's it sitting with you?

You've been farting extra caffeine.

It's good.

Okay.

No, no. Sorts.

But you were wrong. You were wrong about the nine olives fitting.

I was totally wrong because, again, in my defense, I'm used to olives that are that big. I'm not used to olives that are that big. I am not throwing anybody under the.

Making it sound like they were the size of eggs. Greggs. They were the size of olives.

I'm just saying that whoever chose those olives to give me was trying to sabotage.

We did not. Wait.

It was a little bit.

We did not go out. We did not.

Nice hotel here, right? They just have those olives.

We did not go out.

Did you picture us looking at, like, a bunch of olives and we're like, we'll take.

No.

We went upstairs, we said, hey, can we get some olives? And that's what they had.

We went to the Whole Foods olive bar and said, give us your jumbos.

Give us your biggest olives. That's exactly right.

He probably was thinking about black olives.

Which are obviously smaller than the green.

Olives that are a little bit bigger.

Unless you.

The.

Obviously, you hate America, based off the way he just looked at me.

No, but here's the thing. I don't. I don't eat black olives. Black olives, to me, have no flavor. They.

When.

When you want a salty olive and I eat them for the salt, you want a green olive.

I've never had an olive in my life.

Really?

Yeah.

You were missing something.

Now I'm not missing anything.

Yeah.

Stay away from the Kalamata. You got to go to the. The. The salty green.

You don't like a Greek salad? You don't like.

Not really, no.

I'm with my dad on this. I can tell.

I can.

I can look at a food and know if I'm gonna like it or not. And I know I don't like olives, buddy.

You don't like ribs? You don't like wings? Like, what are you talking about?

Well, I don't. I don't eat the ribs because it makes me messy, and I don't think it's worth the trouble. You know, it is. Liking it or not.

He does like. He does like ribs and wings. He just doesn't like eating with his hands.

It's not worth the trouble to me. I'll have something else. If they put olives out there on.

That table, I bet you'd eat it.

No, I. I could tell that I don't like that food right there. I could tell. I don't even need to try it.

That.

That's like a child. When a child says, you, I don't like broccoli, you say, have you ever had broccoli?

Right?

And they go, no.

Right. But. But I know the foods that I like.

But also. But also Zaslow. I would say that Zaslow is the. To me, the most adult toddler I've ever met in my life, except for Greg. Cody, you are. You are more of a toddler than Zaz, even though you're both allegedly adult and. And some of his eating habits. Like, my guess in general is you're just not a big vegetable guy.

I mean, it depends what kind of vegetable. Like. I like broccoli, and I like to.

Sell the drinkers body.

Well, such a guy. By Dan, you hate.

You ate vegetables.

What makes you say that?

I think that you think that chicken fingers and chicken nuggets are the way to go.

I got shamed for my. For the lunch I had on the road this weekend in Baton Rouge. I ordered. You know, everyone else got wings, but I don't do the wings. So I got boneless wings.

Wings.

I got boneless wings.

Quit calling them wings.

And so then I was told that I ordered chicken tenders like a baby. I said, no. I ordered boneless wings.

Blasphemy.

I think he only. You only eat corn.

That's the vibe.

No, I can't eat corn. It hurts my stomach.

Wow.

Hurts your stomach?

Yeah. I love corn, but it comes out the way it went in.

Yeah, all of us.

Okay. But it also hurts my stomach. I'm not trying to have diarrhea.

I like the idea.

When he was a kid, he's like.

Whoa, I don't digest that. I'm not eating it.

I think that Zaslo can crush a children's menu. That chicken fingers and french fries.

Chicken fingers, fries, pizza, macaroni and cheese. Kids menu is amazing. You're talking about so good. And they don't even include. No. Not to include the vegetables. So Whatever.

It's perfect health food.

Let's cleanse the palate slightly more by having talking about a song about Terry.

More fries.

Terry Rozier, please. All right. Some breaking news is catching everybody by surprise.

The FBI arresting NBA player Terry Rozier.

Miami hit guard, was arrested early this.

Morning and charged in a federal sports.

Betting and money laundering case. Hey, teams win and lose together. But sometimes being a ball is not as fun as being a better. The under's gonna hit tonight, so stick around.

He's gonna fake an injury to keep those minutes down. The league did their own investigation but they whip somehow Terry and his bets. Oh, it's all weird and terrible.

Scary.

Terry's out there throwing games.

Oh, what's he gonna do?

He's hella screwed.

Cause now he got nabbed by the FBI. Terry and his best.

I saw Mike back there fishing around for the gear head. Oh, he's got a compatible human being here. Greg Cody's got a lot of NASCAR opinions.

Championship four, baby.

Including that it should only be four people racing at any time.

Wait, it wasn't.

That's a great idea.

That's not what it is. The best idea that's never been adopted. The best idea I've ever had that's never been adopted yet.

If you had your way, the four racers and only the four racers allowed to race at Phoenix for championship weekend, which is coming up this weekend, correct, would be Chase Briscoe, Denny Hamlin, who is presently suing NASCAR as a team owner for 23.

I feel like that's his last name. His first name, according to you, is Denny Hamlin, his last name, who is presently suing nascar. You love saying that.

You have a great situation here where the Franz family would potentially have to hand Denny Hamlin his first ever Cup Series championship. And William Byron has made it by winning a race, a brilliant race at Martinsville. He was the pool sitter. Wire to wire basically dominated that race. And his teammate Kyle Larson, who miss out on the championship four, closes out the championship four, which is a really interesting dynamic because you have two Joe Gibbs Racing guys in chase, Briscoe and Denny Hamlin going against two Hendrick Motorsports guys seemingly the entire race will be helping each other out during the race until they all decide at a certain point in stage three. Let's go for this thing. Four incredible racers. Probably the best championship four you could ask for. And most importantly, Joey Logano shut out the defending champion.

Joey Logano. I'm not a huge NASCAR fan. I'm a casual NASCAR fan who ramps up when the playoffs are underway. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna have to say what you'd expect, which is that Denny Hamlin winning and being handed the trophy by a France is what America should want.

That's so great.

It'd be so great.

Yes, it would be. It would be like who's. Who's the most. Who's the biggest villain in the NFL right now. It would be like Roger Goodell handing that trophy to.

He's not. He's not favored, is he? He's not favored to win at Phoenix.

I gotta actually check out the lines on DraftKings sportsbook. Which reminds me, Gearhead is presented by NASCAR. For all the latest insights and storylines and to find out when and where to watch, visit NASCAR.com Phoenix thankfully isn't one of these super random tracks. That's why it's usually reserved for the final. You get something true to form here and I'm hopeful for an exciting race. It was a really exciting race to end the cup series last year. Can't believe the season's winding down here.

Amin Alhassan is with us now. We've got his weekend observations to get to. He will also be here if you want to party with us on Thursday. We're having a block party and Amin is flying in in order to have some time with our fans. We haven't done something like this in a while and so we're going to go out in Mass. Have you dec, Greg, whether you will be there or not, we've invited you now a couple of different times. Juju's flying in. We got a few different people flying in to make sure to be with our fans.

Yes, I am very optimistic that I'll be there as well.

What does that mean?

I'm still crossing T's and dot knives, but we're working on it.

What's the hold up?

Miami Herald business?

Well, there is a game that night. Usually. Usually he writes off of those games.

The negotiation is that I would write a quick column off the game that I would post online by Friday morning.

And you tell them why. You're like, I'm going to a Halloween party. He's been milking the knee thing.

Well, my knee thing is not milking. It hurts. I'm about to have surgery. But I'm also not going to this thing to go ballroom dancing. I'm going to this thing to see. You never been to Flanagan.

I can.

There's so much ballroom dancing. Oh, my God. It's going to break out all over the block party.

Wow. Ballroom dancing. All right, I'm there.

Don Lebatard is there. Back in my day.

There is actually.

Were you not gonna tell anyone?

Wait a minute, you guys. Guys, it's a Tuesday. Stugats.

Here's your guy, Greg Cody with Back in my day.

Okay, here it is. Sorry, adultery.

For this one.

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach.

Amin is here. Let's do his weekend observations. He's glowing right now. The best Georgia Tech team of his lifetime is eight. No Haynes King, I'm sure is going to make an appearance at some point in these weekend observations. Let's get started with Amin.

It is time for. I mean, to share his game notes. No one in the media will tell.

You what happened better than my boy.

I mean.

Weekend observations is presented by Miller Light. Greg, I told you to stay strong. I told you to remain diamond handed. And we finally hit the turning point because with four touchdown passes, zero ints and only one order of catalytic converters with Cheese Tua is back. The Fins thank you. The Finns have a three game homestand up next, starting with perhaps a return of Lamar Jackson, then followed by Josh Allen and Jaden Daniels. You guys smell that? Oh, momentum. I don't buy week.

I don't think those are quarterbacks. I don't. I don't think you know the way momentum works.

Momentum works in all types of directions.

Better grow that mo.

Yeah, better grow it. Let's see. Why is everyone making a big deal about Vanderbilt? They. They can't stop talking about Vanderbilt. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. When just like an hour south of that there's something truly magical happening. Jalen Brown giving us the Carlos boozer treatment. See that, Dan?

How much. How much fun is everyone who loves Jaylen Brown making of him because he got his. He stained his hair on Anunobi jersey.

I mean, like, I feel like we've reached a point in time in technology and things available to us where you don't have to resort to the head paint anymore. You go to Turkey, they've got all types of like waterproof ones that don't smudge and you don't leave anything on the pillowcase. I don't know why he's going with like the 1999 Beijing model. C.J. stroud is back. Aaron Rodgers is washed. Jordan. Love is the truth. Drake May it's truthier. What happens when you're the truth and you get a little bit more truth, huh? Truth become truth.

Here.

Ridiculum Cam scatterboo mangled his ankle. Players turned away in horror, but he just pumped them up and waved up to the crowd. What a guy. You see, everyone's crying and stuff and he's like, come on guys, get your heads in the game. I love that guy. Jackson Dart sacked five times. Hey, Giants, protect the merchandise. By the way, Dan, I just, just discovered Jackson Dart has a brother. Do you know what his brother's name is?

I do not.

I swear to God, I'm not making this up. Diesel.

No, you're making that up.

That's a better.

Does he play football?

That's a better quarterback name than play football.

Tony. His name is Diesel Dark.

Attaboy.

What do you think he does? High Life.

That gets you five stars on Rivals right off the bat.

Three star recruit. That's crazy.

Three.

He must stink.

He must be terrible.

Mike, call that guy.

Nah, man. Diesel thoughts? The truth. He's going to Ole Miss, I think next year. Halloween is around the corner and Cash Patel wants to play Mark Ruffalo in Task. You guys see this? He wore the jacket. Yeah. Yes. Pablo Torre. Tweeting more and more details about rigged poker games, naming more and more names. Pablo, you're making the spot awfully hot, man. I mean, I wouldn't mind as much if it was just you, but I'm in this with you. See this and the Clipper stuff. I got more thinly veiled threats than a bipolar belly dancer with mafia ties. Hot dance. A lot of threats.

That does seem like a lot, right? Like there.

Cash Patel really likes saying La Cosa Nostra. You guys notice that?

La Casa Nostra.

There you go. He got up in the morning and practiced saying that in the mirror. I just know it.

Can I ask you guys real quick? Because La Cosa Nostra, that is Italian, but in Spanish. It is also in Spanish, our thing. And so it's not La Casa Nostra. That's our house. That's a totally different thing.

That was a joke, Dan.

But I know, but I'm saying that. That La Casa Nostra, that's Italian, correct?

Yes.

This thing of ours, but it's exactly how you would say it in Spanish. Anyway.

There you go. It turns out the Romance languages, Dan, they have stuff in common. Yeah. Bonjourno and Bonjour. Wow, those are really close together. Yeah. Tucker Craft, 143 yards receiving on seven receptions and two touchdowns. Haven't seen a Craft rack up numbers like that since Jupiter on tight end day, no less. Tight end day. The broadcast still show us Robert Salah every time the opponents score. I started forgetting who the head coach is. The Niners was, to be fair. Shanahan does a good job of hiding his. His face with the play call sheet. Does this a lot. So then like, oh, we can't show him. Who are we going to show? I guess show the other guy.

The. The 49ers had the ball for five minutes in the first half yesterday.

I was so confused in the red zone. I'm like, why don't we show the 49ers? I need George Kittle for a touchdown.

Five minutes. They had the ball in the first half.

You guys know why? Mac Jones. Yep. McCorkle Jones turned back into a pumpkin. You know what season it is, Dano?

Pumpkin spice season.

It's pumpkin season. That's right. Well done, Cinefobe. Last week we did Tokyo Drift. True story. They couldn't get permits to shoot in Tokyo, so the crew just went ahead and shot the scenes anyway. Then the studio hired a fall guy so that whenever the police would come to make an arrest for the illegal shooting, the fall guy would claim to be the director to spend the night in jail. Also, Lucas Black is supposed to be in high school in that movie, but he looks older than me.

That feels like a Cinephobe promo.

What? What's Cinephobe, Dan?

I'm not sure. Can you tell us?

Yes. It's the podcast that Zach Harper and I do where we review movies that are poorly rated on Rotten Tomatoes, try to ascertain whether actually rated or maybe they didn't get a fair shake. It's produced by Anthony Mays and it's wherever you get podcasts. As I said, last week was Tokyo Drift. This week, Rambo. First Blood, too.

I've never seen a Rambo movie.

Oh, you're missing out.

Never seen.

You're missing out.

I saw. I saw something fun the other day where Stallone was talking about Rambo and said the original incarnation of the movie was terrible, and he insisted that they just take out all his long speaking lines. And then it became.

Good. Dan. Okay, I'm so glad you mentioned this. The first Rambo first but is about a guy who comes back from Vietnam and he's got PTSD and trying to deal with that. It's actually a very emotional, heartfelt movie. It's very well made. The second one was written by James Cameron before James Cameron was James Cameron, and it kind of continued to explore those. Those themes. And Stallone was like, get the hell out of here. I just want to murder a bunch of people, Southeast Asia.

I mean, why. Why was it called First Blood Part 2 When Second Blood is Right there for them?

Wait, the second one is called first blood?

Yeah, the second one's called.

No, the first part two.

The first one is Rambo first blood. The second one is Rambo first blood part two.

Put it on.

I can't watch.

Put it on. The poll at Lebitard show. Can it be first? Can it indeed be first blood if. If it's part two?

Well, the reason why it's first blood is because they drew first blood, but then they did it again. Hence part two.

Call it second blood. I'm out. No, still first for that reason.

Drew it.

I'm out.

Cleveland Browns. Everything's going according to plan. I called it August 25th. I'm just waiting for it to all come together with Shadir Sanders out there. Georgia Tech dropped in the polls. Syracuse bias. No, it's ap. AP bowl is not the coach's poll. It's the other poll. Right. It's the media. And the media is all Syracuse alums. Costas and Lefkoe and Iron Eagle, Serena Morales and all these people.

Rules.

They're just mad their coach said we're gonna find out who's a coach. Yeah, we found out, all right. Frank Key missed connection. You were the cute brunette in the mall parking lot talking on the phone. I was a pedestrian. You ran over Colorado down 430 at halftime in Utah. Lost 53 7.

We didn't even mention that.

Is Dion still coaching?

Sort of.

Remember when he said he's bringing his own luggage? And it's Louis. Now all he has is garbage bags. And Lewis, could you win comeback player of the year twice? If so, Flacco is a lock. I. I know they lost, but damn, man, got came back again. Kirk Cousins should win go away player of the year. The opposite of comeback. How the hell do you lose to the Dolphins? Speaking of hell, Art Briles. Those are the very sloppy weekend observations.

Put it on the poll, please. At Levitar show, should Kirk Cousins win go away player of the the year. Greg Cody is talking about a sports equinox.

Boy, hell yeah.

A sports equinox that he's very excited work out there. Can you explain to us why it is you're so excited about the sports equinox?

Because these are rare occurrences. I refer to it not as the sport equinox, but as Royal Synchronicity day. This is the day on the calendar. It doesn't happen every year. And when it does, it's Normally only once a year. For example, this is the very first one was in 1971 there. This is the 32nd one is today, October 27th, when MLB, NBA, NFL, and NHL and highlight all playing. And Highlight are all playing.

And mls, Inter Miami.

But we're only talking about the traditional original big four sports here. That's where the. The record keeping is done. First time, you know, in a while. I mean, it's. It's happened every year since 2015, granted, but usually.

You know, in a while.

That kind of thing, though.

Every year for the last 10 years. But it doesn't happen.

It doesn't happen every year. It's happened 32 times since 1971. But you do the math.

More common than leap year.

But it's happened every year since 2015.

As happenstance would have it.

Yes. It's pretty rare.

Yeah, pretty rare.

So it's like a birthday.

Bit of an outlier on a long enough timeline, though.

Thank you. Damn right.

I mean, did you. Did you consume much coverage that was interesting to you? That advances the NBA gambling story as Congress makes a show of summoning Adam Silver here. Surely you have some thoughts here that are more interesting than most people on this subject.

Yeah, Dan, I know. Not only consumed, I contributed. I did a CNN hit after we got done with dls on Friday. Pablo not available again. That's what I thought. That's exactly what I thought. They just went down the list.

He was on msnbc. He was too busy. They brought out Pablo for nighttime NBC. Msnbc. Yeah, they summoned him. He brought out one of his snazziest sports coats.

Did you guys see Mano reading the donor list? That was great. She was crying.

It was funny, though, because I gave like, I. I couldn't. There was no return. So I was just talking to my camera, and so I gave some, I thought pretty banal answers. And they ended the interview pretty quick. And afterward, a buddy of mine who works in politics said, you should have talked about Cash Patel. They would have had you on for 15 minutes. I was like. I was. Wait. I didn't want. I wanted him to lead me a little bit, like, hey, open the door a little bit so I could rip the FBI director. But, you know, I gave. I gave too many kind of milquetoast answers, I guess, Dan, about, like, gambling and. And how this affects the game and all that.

That's not you either. You're not a milquetoast kind of guy.

I. You know what, Tony? I. The lights, man.

No, a little too bright.

You choke a Little too bright for you? I didn't choke. I just didn't play. You know how, like Anthony Edwards in the playoffs, there was that game where everyone's like, why is he just passing the ball? Like, yeah, at some point, you just got to take over, say, to hell with the game plan. I'm getting these shots up. I. That was Anthony Edwards, man. I didn't have. I needed someone to coach me in my corner to go, shoot, take this, go one on four. And I could have done it. I had that Mark Ruffalo joke all weekend long, but, like, I didn't. I should. Unleashed it on cnn.

Got to be great.

Were you. Were you thrown off by just being in a closet somewhere and not actually being able to interact with the people you talking to? You couldn't see them either when you're saying there was no return?

Yeah, I couldn't see who I was talking to.

Sensory, you know, it's just.

It's just, you know, also, it's like, I don't know the producer. It's not like the producers chatting me on the side or anything, coaching me up. It's just like, all right, we'll get to you after this break. And I was like, oh, okay. So I, like, I don't want to blame them. They do a marvelous job over there at cnn. I'd love to come back, but. Well, you won't know.

You won't be invited back. I got a. I got. When. When Hannity and Combs in its previous incarnation, before Hannity was.

Distancing yourself.

It's much better now.

I didn't have Return, and I just purposely made a mess of the whole thing. And I'm pretty sure that I got the producer fired for having me on because there were an assortment of people on the panel that I could hear, but I couldn't see any of them. And I was legitimately asking the question of. There was somebody on the panel who was holding. Neil Bortz was holding a white dog. And so I was just asking, is anyone here. Is anyone here talking about Michael Vick, Black. What does one's race have to do with this issue? Because they don't like the reaction. They don't like a system that has betrayed them over time. They carry that baggage to this discussion. If you read the article that I wrote. I did, and I think you're totally wrong. You didn't read it then.

You read it selectively.

I read it only if I think you're right, then I will have read it. Jim Miller.

No, you came in no, you came.

Into the discussion with your own baggage and you don't want to listen. I have baggage because I think race.

Has nothing to do with this. That means I have baggage all of a sudden.

Sudden.

Jim Miller.

I don't see what race has to do with this.

And it seems like Dan wants to make this. Let me get the other guest in.

It seems like Dan wants to make this about race. That's how you got to do it. Just make a mess.

I remember that the other guest in Daniel. Right. I should have done that. Just barged in the way you did. And you're right, there were no black people on the panel. That's kind of ridiculous. But he kind of got your ass when he said I did read it and I think you're wrong.

Selective reading when you lose.

Col.

The video is so good because if you're watching it, it doesn't make sense. Why the person on my television doesn't see that all the people are white. Like it's not explained that you obviously people on TV are like. You don't see them. Yeah. Look at your TV like I'm looking. Why are the black people? Is this guy blind? They're all right.

There's John Miller though.

It is the quarterback, the former Bears quarterback Jim Miller. And again, even the dog was white. There was somebody holding a puppy. Neil Bortz was holding a puppy. But what advances the story. What advances were there in the story this weekend? I mean you found interesting.

So I talked to a legal expert actually yesterday on Sirius XM Radio and so I asked. One of the things was in the indictments which by the way, the FBI and the Department of Justice did a great job of mashing it all together to make it seem like a huge max fix, match fixing thing. When in reality there's a poker game element. And then there's an allegation that Ted Rozier fixed the match. And then there's a third allegation that Damon Jones and some other people provided insider information, basically insider trading. But they brought it all together and they put Chauncey Billups name on it to make it seem like Chauncey Billups is out here manipulating games.

So.

So the first thing I would urge everyone is to understand these are three although related, separate cases. Number two and I know you guys must have talked about this co conspirator number eight in the insider information trading case. Chauncey is Chauncey. Right. The Description Played from 97 to 2014 as a current NBA coach and like gave information about the Blazers it's like, it's not hard to. To figure out who they're talking about. So I asked the legal expert, I said, is there a reason why they would name Chauncey Billups in this allegation, in this indictment, but not in this one, even though he's, quote, unquote, co conspirator? And they said it's one of two things. Either he's cooperating, which probably isn't the case, because, again, they indicted him in another one, or they just don't have enough strong hard evidence to stick them on it, which goes back to a lot of these things. And again, it's just an indictment. We don't know all the things that the federal government has in their. In their control, but a lot of it seems very circumstantial. And I'd be surprised if we get, like, maximum sentencing for any of the NBA guys in terms of Chauncey Bilt or Terry Rozier.

We've got fewer than 30 seconds left. But when they say that Damon Jones was an unpaid, unofficial member of the Lakers staff, what the hell does that mean? And how common is that? Like what? Unpaid, unofficial member of the Lakers of Darvin Ham staff?

Put bluntly, he's LeBron's guy. So he works with him on a shooting, he travels, but he's not a Laker employee, technically.

Right.

And so they don't pay him. They don't pay him. I'm assuming LeBron compensates him. And so Damon Jones, being around and that intimately in the environment, would, hypothetically speaking, give him access to information that a regular person would not.

Oh, so he's like, jeremy, is it crazy?

If I ask, what can Damon Jones teach LeBron James, it is because the.

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