Transcript of WHEN YVONNE GETS ANGRY | OfflineTV Podcast #12

Welcome to episode 12 of the Offline TV podcast. I'm here joined by Yvonie, we call her Yvo, and Cedeon, we call her Cid. Say hello.

Hello. I'm Cede... What did you call me? Cedeon. Cedeon. Pleasure.

Oh, we're also joined by Crashe and Spirose.

Who are being very good boys right now. Yeah.

They'll probably just sleep here. Speaking of sleep, I got a question for you guys. Okay. Do you ever wake up so fast, you feel nauseous and you're going to throw up? No. That was me this morning.

I don't know if that has anything to do with you waking up fast. What do you mean? You just woke up. What do you mean wake up fast?

When you wake up, urgently. You need to do something right after waking up.

Okay. Do you wake up anxious?

No.

I don't think I've ever woken up feeling nauseous like that unless I'm hung over.

Well, I'm not hung over. But if I wake up, it takes 10 to It's like 20 minutes for my brain to boot up. Almost like a computer that you've turned it on, and it's got the whole...

And then if you don't have time to boot up, then you get nauseous?

Yeah.

Yeah, I think that might be you. That might be a unique experience.

How did you survive school?

Sometimes I'd be nauseous in class. Okay.

I was going to say, because I think it's a lot of waking up fast in school.

You get nauseous and it stays? Are you nauseous now?

It's pretty much gone by now. But there were times where, back when I worked at Yahoo and I had to commute for a long hour, I would need to pull over and prepare to throw up outside my car. That's crazy.

What the hell?

I'm glad it's over now. You don't need to throw up here.

Yeah.

I can't relate. I don't know that phenomenon. But I do have IBS, so I know what it's like to wake up and immediately shit.

Don't have that one.

I don't have that one either.

Oh, yeah. I have to a lot an extra... Say I had Indian food the night before. I have to be really conscious. I'm like, Oh, okay. I can't eat Indian food if I know I have to be somewhere at 8:00 AM, because then that means I have to wake up at 6:00, so that I can spend the first hour of my day on the toilet. Why are you all looking at me so concerned?

I can't with either of you. I just imagine you waking up and your eyes shoot open like, Toilet.

No, that's literally what it's like. I wake up and I'm like, Okay, bathroom time. I can't get up. I'll open the door for the dogs. Well, I can't. Nothing comes first. It's just straight to the toilet. Wow. Yeah. Having IBS is not fun. Honey, no. Spiro has allergies right now, and he won't stop licking his paws. I've tried so many different allergy sprays, and I went to the vet, and they gave me something, and it doesn't work, and I'm so sad, and he won't stop. I'm going to have to cone him.

He's going to eat the cone of shame. Hey, honey.

Allergies make paws itch?

Yeah. It can be a food allergy, seasonal allergy, all sorts of stuff. We tried a bunch of things, and it's still not working. I'm thinking he's going to have to get allergy shots, which is sad.

I have never had allergies until a month ago. I went to Mexico, and it was super clean air because every day at 5:00 PM, it rains there really hard. And then I flew back and then immediately started sneezzing and having itchy eyes, and I was rubbing. At first, did not know what was going on, so I was really getting in there. Then I realized, Oh, I think I'm having allergies. I've heard of this.

I've heard of this thing. I mean, LA hair is gross. I remember when I first moved here, and I was walking in downtown LA, which...

Yeah.downtown LA is like another fucking creature. Crazy choice. It's like another fucking creature.

It's like post-apocalyptic. So I'm walking down there by myself, which is like, Shit, I shouldn't have been. But I'm walking around downtown LA, and you can see the sunbeams coming through the skyline. I'm like, Oh, wow, that's so pretty. It was golden hour. And then if you just look, if you actually look in the sunbeams, the amount of just, I don't know what, dust, just all of this shit floating in the air. It's disgusting. I was like, Oh, wow, this is this is hella gross. And I'm from Washington, so I'm used to that crispy mountain air.

Oh, me too. From Canada, we had mountain air. Yeah. I come here, instantly notice the difference. I'm like, it's a little more stuffy here. It's stuffy, yeah. It's dense.

It is dense.

And like, oh, that's pollution. Sweet. Fun.

Yeah. I'm used to drinking tap water. Me, too. You were able to drink tap water? Yeah.

We were able to drink tap water.

Oh, yeah.

Now I have to filter everything. But I learned that also breed of filters are not real filters. So I don't know.

I got one of those in my fridge right now.

What do you mean they're not real?

They don't actually filter that much, apparently. I learned a lot of my things I love TikTok. Tiktok has taught me so much more than my years of school and everything. It keeps me attached to the outside world when usually my world is very small in the gaming. So prior to... I didn't know much news, politics, or a lot of life, other hacks or things. But then TikTok just...

Isn't it just charcoal? I thought that's what filtration is.

I don't know. You have to go on TikTok.

So you I just cite the sources. You're just trusting the TikToks.

Well, they are like, no, it does not actually filter that much at all.

Did they say why, though? Or they just said that?

They did. I just don't remember anything. My brain doesn't retain all the information. Sometimes I just take does not filter, and that's what I grabbed from the video.

That's all you need.

That's very persuasive.

Isn't there talks about TikTok getting banned? Isn't that the hearing for that is supposed to be this week or something?

Is this what started a year ago?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure they're supposed to have the final yada yada. I don't know. Much like Yvonne, I learned that from my Twitch chat. They were like, Oh, yeah. They're doing the final proceeding for the TikTok ban. Which honestly, we got to put you up there as someone to speak for keeping TikTok because that was convincing. She learns all of her stuff off of TikTok.

Everything. I learned so much. Have you seen the thirst traps of the TikTok CEO?

That's why... Wait, go on. Finish that thought.

It's just like this... Is he Chinese? I think- No, no, no, no.

He's Singaporean.

Oh, Singaporean. But he just has... He's just like... Of course, you have to, I guess. If you're trying to convince people not to ban your app in their country. But it's just the way he talks and everything. They just have compilations. They call him... Never mind.

No, I need to know. What's he called?

I mean, it's just they're just like, he's just Daddy. They just say... I don't personally think so. But I see why they say that.

Of course.

Yeah.

Do you get a lot of thirst traps on your TikTok?

No.

What's your TikTok algorithm?

My TikTok algorithm is cute pets. I have a lot of relationship stuff on my TikTok, like cute couples, since everything. I regard it as like, Muck Bong. You know how people like watching other people eat? Yeah, but I'm like a masochist, and I like seeing cute relationships, but I don't have one myself. I just look at it. Does that make sense?

Yeah. I feel like a lot of the viewers of that stuff are people who are single. Yeah. Watch the relationship stuff. Exactly.

He chose you.

You watch while you're laying down next to no one.

Yes. Hiller Swift. Hold on, let me just look. Current events stuff, like award shows and funny shit or random fact stuff. A lot of the things that go viral end up on my free page, I think.

So your free page is just basic stuff?

Basic stuff.

You don't use TikTok, so you don't have a...

I try not to. Yeah.

Your algorithm is also probably basic because it's just trying to send you anything.

No, it's really niche because it's trying to find what's going to hook me. Oh. Yeah. The basic stuff doesn't show up on it. I'll get just really These strange out there things.

Oh, weird. Interesting.

I feel like you get basic, very viral things. Yeah.

It's like if you don't use TikTok, normally you would get the people who are really big. You'd get the Addison Rays, and they'll be like, Do you want to dance? No. Okay, here's a cute puppy. Is that biting? No, we're not interested in that. How about cooking? And then it just cycles through.

I'll get that, too.

But I think because I use it sparingly, it's probably taken into account. When I've swiped, it'll be like, Eh. And it's been like, How did we lose This is what made it, Okay, don't show him that anymore. Seem to hover on this. Give him all of this. And then it'll be, for some reason, stand-up comedians with a very niche thing they're talking about or animations or something like that.

Instagram scares me. Instagram is insanely... I feel like their algorithm, once something catches on, it really catches on. I see my Discover page all over like that. A small thing. So it's almost... Their advertising is very I think Instagram advertises products I would actually want or I'm more enticed to use than TikTok, but I don't like how it grasps the videos that you watch once so heavily.

Oh, I love it. I want you to read me. I want everything that I use to be so personalized. I want to spend all of the money on Instagram. I want to spend all the money on TikTok. Please give me everything. Except for it sucks when... So I recently bought something off TikTok shop. It just actually got delivered. I bought that stupid fucking light that you stick onto your phone And every content creator, they turn it on, and all of a sudden it gets really bright, and they're like, Oh, my God. I was like, Okay, fine. I'll fucking buy it. So I bought it. And then it was like, Oh, you're into content creation. Do you want a tripod? Do you want something that sticks to the window? Do you want another light? How about a microphone? And it's like, Okay, well, can I get something else that's also interesting or just something different? I'm not going to keep buying. I'm like, If I bought a fucking light, why are you showing me more lights? I just bought one. I don't need another one. Tiktok shop algorithm drives me It's like an insane. It's also like you get three non-sponsored videos and then five sponsored videos and then two non-sponsored.

I'm like, This is actually crazy.

What I hate that TikTok ads have started doing is, you know how there's that trend of photos where it'll be a song and then it'll be a photo, then you swipe through. You can see the dots. Ads have started putting the dots there. So it's like five dots and the first one's lit up. But there's not actually any swiping. When you swipe, it opens the ad. So twice now, I've gone and been like, Oh, what? Because the first one hooks you. Like, What is this? Swipe, then it goes, Hey, buy our shit. Fuck you.

Get out of here. Yeah, that drives me absolutely insane. But Instagram algorithm, I actually love because I use it as if it's Pinterest. Because Pinterest is too outdated. I don't know if you guys have been on Pinterest lately. Yeah, I have. All of the content on it is old, whereas Instagram is obviously updating every day. People use it more, yada, yada. And because they have the Save feature where you can move things into different boards and stuff like that, I use that as my new found Pinterest. And as soon as you save one thing, it's like your entire Explore page becomes that.

I know. I think for me, Sometimes it's like, okay, if I'm looking for inspiration for nails, I don't want my whole discover to end up being nails because I'm only going to get my nails done once a month or something. So that's what bothers me about it. I don't want to watch one video and have a lot of things be recommended to me instantly after that because it might just be that one video that worked.

Yeah, that's fair.

But I like the items that they recommend you, the shop stuff. I do buy a lot of things off of Instagram ads a lot more. Really?

Yeah. I haven't really bought off Instagram unless it's independent designers. That's where I find a lot of independent clothing designers, and then I'll end up buying their clothes.

I bought clothes, I bought housewear.

I've only ever bought one thing off of an online ad. What was it? I think it was a sweater.

But guys also- The one that we both bought-Oh, that we both have from Instagram.

That was very disappointing.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Me and Bro, I wore that sweater sometime? You're like, Wait a minute, I have that. Yeah. And then we both were like, Oh, yeah, I bought this off Instagram, and I thought it was going to be a nice knit sweater, and it wasn't. It was printed fabric on 98 % cotton or something like that.

And after that, I'm like, Okay, well, never buying stuff on Instagram again.

Yeah. It's so hit or miss. It's absolutely so hit or miss. I just bought off of Olive Young. Oh, yeah. I went to their website. Because you've heard so much about Olive Young, right? But I went to their website, and it looked so sketchy. You know how we're used to the way that Americans Asian websites look? Yeah. And then when you go to Asian websites, it just looks like a scam a lot of the time because it's not what we're used to seeing. So I opened up Olive Young and I was like, I know you're a credible brand, but this looks like you're about to give me 10 viruses on my computer, and I'm going to I'm going to order something, and it's going to come from Temu. I don't know what's happening here, but I'm just going to... So I just risked it. It's also the products that I was going to get were ridiculously reduced in price. I bought Two things of sunscreen, two cleansers, because everything's in a pack of two, and two moisturizers for 60 bucks.

Oh, yeah. I mean, it's cheap there. It's even cheaper there.

Why doesn't everybody shop on Olive Young?

Oh, they do. When I I was in Korea, literally a month ago, and there were so many tourists there, the whole thing was filled up. I heard Mandarin, Chinese, Japanese. I heard everything there. If you go to, especially the tourist places, it is filled to the brim with people.

Guys, everyone's checking out. Because it was like, the deals were insane, and it's all the K Beauty, and they have it organized by best sellers. So you can see... One thing that I'm seeing on TikTok a lot right now is... I mean, K-Beauty is just huge in general, especially right now. One thing I'm seeing is like, oh, what's actually popular in Korea versus what's popular in the States? What people think is popular in Korea. And it's really cool to see because some things do have crossover, but some things are like, Oh, yeah, Korean people don't use this. They actually use this. And then Olive Young has it all under best sellers.

All of Young, too. If you make an account, they'll give you a huge discount code on your birthday.

Damn. I was late. You know this? Yeah.

I know this because I got the email for the code, but I didn't use it in time, and then I kicked myself.

My birthday's coming up. I need to use it.

Oh, snap.

Can I put some stuff on your order?

Send it in the group chat.

We'll Venbo you. All right, fine. Guys, we're not actually going to go to Wendy's on my birthday, right? You guys are going to...

What is it?

Oh, is that the day that the Crabby Patty comes out? Yeah. Oh, everybody block your calendars. It's Crabby Patty Day.

We're doing Crabby Patty Day?

No, I said we're not, right? We're not.

We could get you a nice little party high, and we can go sit in the Wendy's and celebrate by having Crabby Patty.

I'll bring food coloring so we can make them pretty patties. Oh, shit. That's a good idea. You can have the brown one.

What? And I get the brown one?

Or green, whatever you want.

Okay, fine. Well, the craby patty party, low-key, sounds okay.

How would you like to spend your birthday?

I I don't know. That's the last thing. Peter wants to maybe do something together again. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so I have no idea. A little partay? I want a party. I want everyone to throw down. Stalian's back. Yeah.

What did you say?

She's burst out of the stable, and she's running wild. You know what?

Actually, now, the thing about it, I would love to have a party, but I don't know at what capacity we can have a party.

We can rent a venue and have a party. What do you mean? Is it like a Everybody's drunk as fuck, and we're taking shots at a house, and there's throw up on the stairs party? Or do you mean everybody gets dressed nice, and we go and we have a pâtee with some champagne?

No, I'm less formal.

Okay, so you don't throw up on the stairs?

I don't, but maybe right before throw up, that line.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's what makes a good party sometimes. You have a couple of people throwing up. Yeah. Yeah.

Yvonne likes parties where you hear like, And you're going, Hey, I can't hear you. Sorry.

Okay. Yeah.

Well, I like throwing parties. Yeah. I like throwing parties. And then sometimes not showing up or not staying very long. That's usually my thing. If I can throw someone else's party, organize it all, and then be there for 2 hours and leave. But for you, I will stay. For you, I will throw up on the stairs.

I feel like I've been misled by how much Sid likes the party. She told me before. She's like, I always want to party. Nobody parties with me. I'm like, Fuck, yeah, I'm down. I go party with Sid. She's out at 11:00 PM, or she'll leave early. I'm like, Wait a second. I thought we were both throw downers.

I'm really picky. I had a fake ID, though, when I was younger. At least she's legal now. Yeah. Allegedly, I had a fake ID.

I was going to say, are we past the statute of limitations on that?

Allegedly, I had a fake ID, so I was allegedly parting at 19, and I was going out to clubs and stuff with my friends, allegedly. I went through a hardcore party phase, and it was really fun. But I'm really picky about it. I need the DJ to be throwing bangers only. It has to be hip hop or rap or reggae or Latin music. I don't want to listen to EDM when I'm at the club. The people at the club also have to be dancing for it to be fun for me because I don't want to just sit and talk. It's not what I'm here to do. I'm here to throw ass. And nobody is throwing ass at the club in 2024. Obviously. Obviously. It's like the club culture is fucking dead in the States, at least. And that's what the streets are saying. I don't know if you guys have heard that, but the streets are saying that club culture is dead.

That was a niche TikTok that I got.

So I don't have fun partying anymore unless it's international. But the risk you run when you go international is that the music can sometimes be a little weird, A, and B, It's like 50/50 on the ass throwing. So it's like... I love to party when it's my perfect environment, and if it's not-When it's perfect.

Yeah.

And it's been a while since I've had my perfect party environment.

Did you feel Do you like China on your birthday?

That one is hard to say, guys, because I will tell you, I was fucked up. I mean, the music- I think I liked it.

Was all popular music. It wasn't all rap and stuff, though. It was all American radio music. Yeah.

They played... We went to two different clubs within a couple of days, and they both played Taylor Swift. I remember that. Everybody's saying... And then they also played Spunchbob music, right?

There were a couple songs.

They had the That really stuck out.

Hendrik, Sunk into Spongebob remix, and that was crazy.

That was crazy. It was Who lives in a pineapple under the Sea, and they were just fucking like... Not Like Us. Not Like Us. Not Like Us.

I'm like, What the fuck did I just... I got whiplash.

But the club, that was bumping. Everybody was pumped about that. I remember that.

They played Justin Bieber, Weekend, a lot of stuff.

Oh, my God. Then there was that table of guys, the table of American guys that were behind us that were trying to get you to come over. Really? Do you remember that?

Do you remember that? I don't remember this.

I don't remember this either. There was the group of guys behind us. They were like, American dudes. They were buying bottles, like hella bottles, and they I ended up trying to talk to you and you were like...

Me? Yeah. Oh.

Wait, was this... Maybe I blocked that out. Was this the club we were all sardined? That one? Yes.

The one where we walked in at first said, Fuck that. Walked back out, got a table, and then came back.

I was a fucking... I was angry that night. I was mad. I love mad.

Yvonne was throwing elbows. I love mad Yvonne.

It's because in the States, clubbing is so different. Even if they bump you, usually people... Oh, sorry, because they don't want to start shit. In China, nobody gives a fuck. The norm is that you shove and bump into people. In the beginning, very angry because even the workers did it. Then when the workers started doing it, it's like, okay, I guess it's normal here.

The workers were more aggressive than the people.

Yes, because they knew they had to. They would pick you up and throw you. Yeah, they would literally push you. My thing is, okay, if they're going to shove people, then I'll stand on the outside so people don't get... Our group, at least, doesn't get shoved, right? And it pissed me off. There's one guy who is hovering us. He's a fucking hoverer. I hate those. Don't do that. Anyways, there's one guy hovering behind Sid and Jody. And I'm looking at this guy. I'm like, You... And then he gets close, too. He's getting closer. And then as I start moving to the outside or something, I'm like, Hey, You're a little close. Can you stand back a bit? So I was nice at first.

You said this in Chinese, right?

No, I said in English because the guy is not Chinese.

Oh, the whole time, I thought you were yelling at him in Chinese.

Oh, no, he's not Chinese. So I said in English. He understood English. I was just like, Hey, you're a little close. And he's like, I can be here. I'm like, Yeah, you can be here. Just be over there. And then he's like... And he argued back a bit with me, and I just got sassier because I'm just like, Hey, just back it up a little bit. You're too close. I had to say, You're too close. It was crazy. You fuck. I didn't say that, but I was thinking it. And then so... And he stays because I think you're a little stubborn when someone maybe like, yells at you. And then I look back maybe two or three minutes later, he's gone.

Yeah, you got his ass. No, I've literally, I've never seen angry Yvonne except for when we were in China. That night at the club, she was like, Hey, you're a little close. Back up. Like, just not even... She said it nice at first. I don't even really think it was nice at first. You literally, you were just like, Back up. You're too close. It wasn't mean, but it wasn't nice, which was perfect. It was exactly what we needed because he was being a creep.

Because I couldn't hear what she was saying because obviously there's speakers and club music. And the, Hey, sorry, I can't hear you. But I I saw Yvonne, and the way that she moved was very sharply.

You can see her chest pops up. You literally start squaring up with people. We always talk about, Oh, if someone goes to jail, who's most likely to get in a fight? No one would ever expect Yvonne, but I actually think it's you. I think if we were to go out one night and someone was going to get in a fight, it would be you because you just post up at people.

Hey, listen, when I am in a club... Okay, how do I describe this? When it comes to I don't usually... But if I just start people around my friends, then I get really protective. It's like club or rave environments where I feel like I have to be more protective of people in a way because I go out a lot. So I feel like I just see a lot of people a lot or encounter a lot of things. So when people... I feel like, Hey, not my friends. You could do it to me, but back off. And then that makes me very angry. I get more upset. It's like everything. I get more upset for... I'm sure for all of us, right? You get more upset for your friends than for yourself. So that's just that, but amplified because I'm also drug.

Well, you should have seen her entering Disneyland. Oh my God! That was by far the most angry I've ever seen of one.

A lady pestering me to buy a poncha I'm like, No, fuck off, lady. I don't want the poncho. For the fifth time, I'm telling you, no. My mistake was saying no in Chinese because then she started pestering, running up to us in Chinese and just being like, buy the poncho. I'm like, no.

Basically, when When you enter Disneyland Shanghai, there's a line of people before you get into the free entrance of the park, and you walk through all these people trying to sell you things to survive the day. Do you want a fan? Do you want a poncho? Do you want a yada, yada, yada? And they're all persistent, but not that bad. But there was this one lady who wouldn't leave us alone because it was very obvious that we weren't from here. So they're coming up to us. She's like, Oh, poncho, poncho. We're like, No, we don't want it. We don't want it. We don't want it. And she kept following us. And then- Literally following. Yeah, just hovering, Oh, poncho, poncho. And we're like, No, no, no. Avonne says no in Chinese. Then she lights up, starts speaking in Chinese. And Avonne gets so angry. So angry. We finally get rid of her. We get into the park, and she's... And then we get to the actual line to get into Disneyland, and it takes an hour in the heat, in the fucking China heat. And so I'm sitting there like, Oh, this day is cooked.

This lady I'm just pissed Yvonne off. It's hot as fuck. It's going to take two hours to get into the park. And when you see a giga line at the beginning, I'm like, Oh, the rest of the park is going to be crazy. It wasn't. But I'm like, Oh, I'm just standing in line. This day is so cooked.

We don't have I bounce back quick. I get angry as I quickly do... I don't get real angry easily. It doesn't happen that often. And then when I do, it's like you buy me an ice cream. I'll be like, Oh, okay. It's fine. But the thing is, the line was also triggering because it's all these people cutting each other off. So they're weaving in. It's like fucking Frogger, and you're trying to go through all the cars yourself. And so I'm getting triggered because we're getting cut off. And the only way I calm down is when we start joining. And we're like, Wait, you know what? I can cut people off, too. And then I start going cutting people off. And then I'm like, Okay, I feel better.

And that's why the society is that way. No one gets mad when they get cut over there because they just be cutting, too. I'm like, damn, we just... Yeah.

You're just not if you sit there and you tank all the cutting.

Yeah. It was crazy. I saw a new way of life. I was like, Well, this is really interesting.

Did you like it more, though?

I don't think I'm cut out for it.

Well, Sid is more patient towards it because I think if I were in a different country than my ethnicity or whatever, I'd be like, Oh, it's just how it is here. And I'd just be accepting of the people. But for me, I'm I'm not fucking Chinese, and so I was getting mad at my own people. I'm like, Fucking Chinese people. Get the fuck out of my way. I hate us sometimes. That's how I felt.

I felt similarly the first time I went because I went to a bookstore with my family. And that's when I realized We had the books. We were in line to pay. And just, if you're not cutting someone, you're not going to get to the front. And it infuriated me because I was like, No, we're better than this. Come on. Come on.

I'm just like, I love I know so many things about us. And then by the house, I also know a lot of the things about us. I'm just like, God damn it.

But now I'm ready for it. When that happens at Disney, it's like, All right, cool. They cut us. We're going to cut them. We're going to cut them. Or I'll box them out.

That's why it's the same thing. You just get less angry when you have mental prep for it. At the club, halfway through, I was accepting that, Okay, this is how people are here.

Wait, do you guys ever box people out when you know they're trying to cut you? A hundred %.

Even when I'm When you're driving, if you're about to... We're merging, I will drive in the fucking middle. You're not getting in front of me. I don't care. I'm the same. But I will cut anyone off.

When you're driving and there's a merge, naturally, there's the zipper. It's supposed to go left, right, left, right. Then sometimes a guy will try to pass it. If I see that happen, no, you're not.

There's a guy at the club who... We're literally sardines, right? But I don't like a guy all up in my grill because I'm not comfortable. I don't want a guy, his junk on my ass. You know what I mean? I literally, while we were in the club, I elbowed him. His stomach hard elbowed because it gives gap. I was refusing to let him touch me. That was the thing that was the most... But that was the most aggressive I was physically.

No, I do the same. If someone's standing too close, I'll just go like this.

It's just I was literally elbowing his stomach. But hey, just back up.

In middle school, I got really sharp elbows. I'm great at that.

What do you mean? You just developed sharp elbows in middle school?

Do you have this. Not only is my elbow pretty good, but I have this sharp.

Maybe that means...

Wait, you have a little knobby on the... Oh, I feel my little knobby, but It's tiny. Yours sticks out. Yeah. Oh, what the heck?

You got the double bow. I've got multiple. I could elbow this way, but I could also elbow this way.

I don't know when this is practical, but it's good to know.

If they're in my zone and I can't get this, I can at least go like this around. Yeah.

Do you guys ever think about street fighting people? All the time. Okay, me too.

All the time. I'm a pussy. I forget if I've talked about this on the podcast, but I, multiple times growing up, I think high school and then into college, googled legally what needs to happen in order for me to fight in a street fight with no punishment.

What? I've only ever thought about self-defense. My thing has always been, what if I get attacked? What if someone starts chasing me? What if someone breaks into in my car? Those are the things that I'm like.

Yeah, no, but that's exactly that. You don't always have the right to beat someone up, even if they do start a fight with you. What? Yes.

You're telling me someone starts charging at me? I can't be like, Hey, fuck you. Stop charging at me.

If you want to know, to legally be able to beat someone up, they have to start the fight with you. So it has to be self defense.

But what qualifies as them starting to fight with you? Does something have to land? Is threat enough? They're like, I'm going to fucking kill you. Is that enough?

That one, I think you'd have to still argue for, but I think if they strike you at all.

So I have to get strikt before I can retaliate?

If you want a super clean case, you need to be struck. You need to try to evade. So At point A, you need to be hit. You need to then try to leave, and they need to follow you. If they follow you to point B and try to continue the fight, now you can beat them the fuck up.

If they walk by, stab me, they don't follow me, then that's It's like it.

Yeah. If they do a little swipe and then walk away, you can't necessarily chase them and break their arm. You could call the cops on them, but you can't go and use deadly force.

I mean, I don't mind that. I just don't want someone to have to potentially kill me before I can do anything.

Yeah. I think if there's a weapon involved, you would probably get away with it. They might arrest you originally.

I think if there's a weapon, yeah. You're fine. It's changed A little bit.

My sister has gone to jail for beating somebody's ass after they hit her. Yeah. Yeah. She was like, Dude, it was self-defense. She punched me. She sent one to jail.

Exactly.

Yeah. It is crazy.

So best case scenario, They punch you in a spot where the flesh is soft. If you bleed a little bit, drop that on the ground, walk away. They aggress you, then you snap their arm.

Did you hear about there's a first time where where someone adjacent to a school shooting is getting charged or getting like- What do you mean adjacent? Basically, what had happened was... Have you guys heard about the Apache school shooting recently? Basically, there is a kid went to school on first day or something like that. Yeah, he shot kids there and everything. What happened was the school, actually, there was some type of investigation prior to that. They had gone to the kid's house and been like, Hey, your kid has been making aggressive threats, or potentially going to school with a gun. Does he have access to a gun? And the dad's like, We own a gun, but he doesn't have access to it. So the parent was already warned of this behavior or potential type of thing. And then, apparently, the dad still gave the kid access to the gun, or gave him a gun. So that's why the is now being investigated because it's like you... Oh, I see.

Like negligence. Yeah.

Because before kids somehow would get their hands on one, but this time it's like you're actually giving them one. So it's very different. But the mom had also been warning the school or authorities like, Hey, this has been... So they were already warned beforehand. And I think what I heard was, and you could fact check this, but what I'd heard was that the school was warned and they pulled the wrong kid out of class. It was like I saw that. With the first name or the same last name or something like that.

I did see that.

Yeah. Insane. Are we allowed to self defense then? What if someone's like...

Well, that'd be a lethal weapon.

Okay, then yeah.

I feel like if someone here at the club, some bitch pulls a knife on you.

Yeah, you can drop-kick them. Yeah.

Would recommend running because... Yeah. I do think about that. I'm like, Okay, Sam, this girl's coming at me. I got a fighter or whatever. I'm like, Okay, she pulls out a knife. My first instinct Which I know is not right, is the whole the movie scene where you get that.

No, I'm right next to you.

I'm taking off my shirt and I'm like, All right, come on, bitch. I got the fucking towel. I'm ready. I'm going to wrap your hand up. I'm going to do it just like Liam Neeson.

I'm trying to, like said, kick the knife out of here. Yeah, I'm going to block it with my hand.

My thought is so different. I just think, damn, I can't bring my pepper spray in because they take it as security. How do you defend yourself?

I've seen too many action movies. My brain is cooked. I'm done for. I'm going to think I'm fucking invincible.

Have you seen the TikTok of the girl who tries to teach you how to self-defense in a car? All right, you pull the seat back, and then you grab them and you do this, right? Then there's one person who does it, and they're like, All right. They try to do it, they go, They're really slow in their seat because it's automatic.

Yeah, I have seen those. I think about... So one of my bigger fears is I don't like to drive over bridges or be in a car that's over water because I've watched so many videos of what to do if your car is submerged in water. But I know that if it ever happens, I'm not doing any of that shit. I'm not rolling down the window first or I don't have a glass cutter in my car, which I probably should. I don't have a seat belt cutter in my car, which I probably should. All these things. I'm like, In the case of emergency, I'm just going to freak the fuck out. I hope we all understand.

I'm pretty sure I perform very poorly under pressure. And when it comes to life or death situation, I might just freeze or just be like... You know.

Yeah. That was one of my biggest fears about actually going into nursing. I was like, Oh, I don't know that I would perform well under... I could never be an ICU nurse. Well, I guess ICU is a little more stable. An emergency nurse, probably not an ICU nurse because it's like people just come in and they're just fucking bleeding and I got to do something about it. I know, but I don't know. Now I'm glad I play video game.

Yeah.

No one's lives are in my hands.

Exactly. Now it's like if you don't perform under pressure, it's in the game.

It's in Pico Park. Everybody starts yelling.

It's in Pico Park. And sometimes you cry.

Yeah, that was a trip. For you guys, it was Pico Park things. I've just been hearing echoes around the house.

Yeah, Pico Park was a trip.

Is it like there's a sequel? What's going on?

Yeah, so Pico Park 2 came out. Obviously, Pico Park 1 was a couple of years ago. I feel like we played it. Yeah. Yeah, the first time.

Pico Park 1 is a classic.

Yeah. I played with my family, whatever. So Toast put together a lobby. I was like, Okay, we're going to play Pico Park 2, but we're not going to stop until we finish. The first day we played, we played two hours, I think. The second day we played, we played six. Six hours on Pico Park? It's giving birth.

Pico Park is giving birth. You forget.

Go follow that up for us.

Yeah, because someone is playing. Back that up. Basically, when a woman gives birth, she There's something that makes you could forget how painful it was. So you keep doing it. You're going to keep reproducing it. Yes and no. There's some people who very much remember, but there's some people who are like, Oh, yeah. You don't recall how bad it was. That's normal for a lot of things. You don't recall how bad something was in the past because you've forgotten.

It's like a trauma response. Yeah.

And so it's like you forget how Picle Park One was. And then Picle Park Two comes out. And I'm sure when Picle Park Three comes out, we're going to forget how painful this Picle Park Two was. You know what I mean? Like four years is a long time. If they have the next four years, I'm not going to remember how bad it was.

It was bad. It was pretty bad. It was harder than our Heroic Wow rate. I'm not even fucking kidding. I am not even... Less than 30 groups of people have beat this Heroic the WOW raid, and I stand by the fact that this Pico Park lobby was harder than the WOW raid.

For anyone who does not know what Pico Park is, it is a eight-player game.

Up to eight players, I think.

Yeah, eight-player game. It's best played with eight players, where there's a series of, I don't know, 50 puzzles, basically, that you all have to collaborate. Collaborate well and, I don't know how to say it, like synchronized to complete.

Yeah. So you have to get eight people to get through levels. And some of them you work together, some of them there's a lot of individual responsibility, and it's really hard.

And if one person messes it up, you mess it up for everyone. You start over.

And that's why it took us a total of eight hours to get through. It turns out we didn't even beat the whole game. Apparently, there's bonus levels, which I'm not fucking doing. I don't care. You'd have to pay me. You'd have to pay me money to come back and do that. Some friendships almost didn't make it out of Pico Park, too.

Who were the weaklings? I was ready to be mad at everyone for half an hour. Who were the weaklings?

You're saying you're mad. You were not a weak link. That's what you're saying.

No. I have been the weak link, and there have been weak links, and I would still be mad. It just doesn't matter at that point. You start forgetting that. You're like, I mess up, I'm like, Well, I'm still mad at you guys for also messing up. Fuck you all, too.

See, for me, Pico Park, and even when I did, I think I did two seasons of Wauw Rates with you guys, I generally wouldn't mess up. It would be just me seeing other people mess up. It was almost like a rhythm game where I'm like, Okay, well, I know what I need to do. And the more we mess up, I'm just getting better at this.

It sucks, though, because that's what happens, right? And then you continually get better. But then the one time that you fuck up is the time that everybody else did it well. So it's like the stragglers all of a sudden get really good, and you're like, Oh, yeah, I've done this so many times, whatever. And then you fuck up, and Oh, fuck. I just ruined the whole thing. Everybody else did it. We were on the last level. It was an ice level. And ice mechanics and platform games, you slide left and right, right? So you have to counterstrafe to keep yourself from moving. There were some people who couldn't, were continually not getting it. And I had messed up maybe twice out of 50 runs or something like that. We finally got really far, and I was like, Oh, holy fuck. This is the one. This is the one. And then I slipped. I was like, Holy shit. This is the second time I slipped, but everybody else did it perfect except for me. And now I'm the one who fucked up the whole run. I was like, Maybe the chance to get us to the end game.

And everyone forgets that you have a 99%. Yes.

And there was like, Oh. And I'm like, Dude, this is my second time. It's literally my second time. Yeah, it was a trip, but we're done. We did it, and everyone's still friends. So Hallelujah.

It is a trauma response. I think they forgot everything that happened so that we could be friends still.

I'm assuming Toast was the IGL.

Yeah. And then Psych.

And then Psychuno, yeah. I think Saikuna was one of those people who was doing everything pretty dang well. And eventually, he was just like, Okay, guys, come on.

It's funny because you could tell he was starting to lose it, too.

Yeah, he was starting to lose it. I mean, even I yelled. Normally, I wouldn't yell at other people, but I yelled.

What's funny is that Saikuna is someone who will purposely play a little loose to create content. And so for him to start taking it seriously He really tells me a lot. Yes.

No, literally, he would normally troll. He could really easily fuck over a level if he wanted to. And he would still be like, Oh, but what if I... And a lot of the times when he would give... In other games, in other circumstances, his what if, he would just do. He would just run into a spike. But this time he'd be like, What if I... Goes in the door, finishes the level. He's like, No, I'm not going to do this. Yeah, that's how you know it was bad. That was our recent gaming experience.

Do people speedrun that? I feel like that would be an interesting speedrun category.

I would love to watch. I would love to watch Pico Park speed runs because it's so difficult. Some of them are so difficult. Some of the levels that they put in there are literally just fuck you levels from the developers. They have every intention of you just eating shit.

Twitch Rivals.

I have that one Twitch. That would be fun. I would watch that. Yeah, he tweaking out.

Is he dreaming?

Yeah.

His eye was going crazy.

His eyes, you could see his little head muscle moving. I know. They're so cute. It's been really nice because we used to live in a place that was not very walkable, so I couldn't walk them three times a day. But I walk them three times a day now, and then they just sleep. We just walk for 45 minutes to an hour, come home, they sleep for three hours. I wake up, take them on a walk. They come back, they sleep.

Like, damn.

Damn. Yeah, it's nice. Normally, they would be going bananas right now.

So obviously, we're in a new house. Yeah. Your dog It seem like they like it. Yeah. I'm curious if you like it, but it's funny because when we see you, basically, there's a big glass window that lets us see your room.

Yeah.

It feels like you're our sim or something. Do you feel the same way looking this way?

Yeah, 100%. Me and Jody have made that joke so many times. She's like, Oh, I look at you and you're like my little hamster in a little hamster cage, and I just get to watch you live your life. I said, Oh, I look at you and you're my little sim. And then your cats, because her cats always sit at the window that face my window, are your little sim familiars. They're your little sim pets, and I get to watch them through the window. That's cute. And then sometimes Jody's balcony faces out towards my room. So Jody will sit on the balcony, and I'll sit in the backyard and look at the cat. But it is really fun. I love looking in here. It's nice because I can see if you guys are hanging out here. So I'll just come over because I'm like, Oh, people are sitting on the couch.

Would Do you put curtains up then?

I have curtains. So I only leave the curtains open when I'm like, It's okay if you see that type of thing, or I don't care.

It's like your open office hours.

Yeah. It's like, okay, come in. I'm down to hang out or chat or whatever. And then I'll just close it when I want a little bit more privacy. Or my desk is right at the corner. And so I don't like... Some days, you just don't leave your PC. You just sit in game and you're a gremlin. So I'll cover the curtain right there so nobody can see that I haven't left my desk in 12 hours. Interesting. Yeah.

Because I see that, I'm like, She's not home.

No, I'm hiding in that corner, but I don't want to be embarrassed by the fact that I'm being an absolute goblin. Yeah, that's what I do. Yeah, I really like the place. They seem to really like the place. I think they're getting a lot more exercise here now. I just bought them this fancy toy that I'm going to set up in the backyard. It's like a pull chase thing where it zips around a zip line and they get to chase it around the yard. So I'm really excited. Yeah. I think it would be good.

Have they used the pool yet?

So Spiro has this thing where he really loves... He developed this at the last house because we had a similar pool set up where it's the pool, and then there's a raised hot tub, and the hot tub is an infinity hot tub. So the edges of it are thick, and he likes to walk along the edges, which is like over the pool or over the ground. And so we have the same thing here. He gets up because he likes to wait in the water. Crash, not so much, but Crash happened to get up the one time that Spiro was up, and they tried to walk past each other on it, and Crash just knocked him off. And so he falls into the pool and starts scrambling. But luckily, dogs know how to swim, and I've taken him for little swim tests. And so he swam out to the edge, and it was during our heatwave, so it was like 105 degrees or something like that. So he dried off in two seconds. Yeah. But yeah, he already fell in the pool. Crash is not a water dog, but I think Spiro Yeah, he's so cute.

Yeah, you. Hi, Papa.

I wanted to ask how... There's no segue here, but I just wanted to ask, do you guys watch a lot of music videos? And how do you feel about the VMA winners?

I used to watch them, but I watch them less. Yeah, because I just watch everything less in general. I consume less media.

You see them at the club all the time because they're playing on the screen.

I haven't gone in a while. Club girl. I'll How do you guys know that I'm semi-retired. I used to be the one who'd rally people. That was phase one. Phase one, early stages, is when you really want to go and you rally people. Phase two is you rally people sometimes. Sometimes people call you out. Now, I'm at the phase where I mostly go out if other people has to go out.

You just said you wanted people thrown up on the stairs for your birthday.

Yeah, for a birthday.

That's a special occasion. You had a good run. I did. Two years. You had a good run. Yeah. That's the perfect amount of time. You did it. You got it out of your system.

All the bouncer know her by name.

No. Only one. Good times.

Good times.

You don't really watch music videos.

I'm the same. I used to watch them. I used to just leave MTV on when it was just music videos. I loved that when I was younger. And now if I hear that a music video is really good, I will check it out. Or if I know a certain artist normally puts out good videos, then I will watch them. But it's not something that I really keep up with. I used to also watch every award show. I love the Oscars, the Emmys, the Grammys, VMAs, all that stuff. But I don't really watch anything live anymore. I don't watch live TV. So I didn't catch the VMAs. I just went back and watched a couple of things, like Chapel Roon's performance and Sabrina Carpenter's performance and stuff like that.

I see those on TikTok, so I watch it there.

I don't even know who the winners are of anything, really.

I just know there's a lot of Taylor Swift.

It's always Taylor Swift. She won seven times the year before that. The comparison photo is just a fuckload of VMA awards.

Well, okay. You were saying, because I forgot how the VMAs work, but you were saying that it's a popularity vote, right?

It's a fan vote. It's a fans vote. Yeah, Fan Vota award show.

So I've got a question. We've got streamers who are dipping their toes into music creation. Do you think that if the Twitch community band it the other and voted for a streamer music video, they could win a VMA.

I feel like it'd have to be an insanely popular streamer. I don't think one streamer's community could do it. Yeah.

Because you're beating out someone like Taylor Swift. Yeah. Which is...

The amount of fans is just that much more. It's crazy.

I don't think that there's anyone on to... Even the biggest Twitch streamer, I don't think could.

Okay, so we don't hit Taylor's categories. Which so we're not going to do...

We're going for country, just like every other popular artist right now. Is Taylor not country? No.

No, she's pop now. She's pop now. Okay. Or what alternative? Is there another category?

Okay, so to game the system, we need a streamer to make a country song with a really, not controversial, but catching music video.

Isn't it Post Malone country now? Everybody is. Yeah. So many people are country-sounding us. Even Sabrina Carpenter has country-sounding songs.

Well, that was the Lil Nas X strategy, was he did Country Road because it'd be easier for him to get on the top billboard radio or whatever.

Yeah. Yeah.

It worked. It really did. Look at him now.

I feel like it doesn't need to be all one person's community. If one person got even into the running, I feel like they could convince Twitch as a whole to vote.

I would support whoever ended up doing something like that because I think it'd be cool. It's just a cool social experiment. Can it be done?

Yeah.

I feel like I separate Twitch so much from mainstream stuff, but that's just not really the case anymore. Twitch is so mainstream. Streamers are so mainstream that it maybe could work.

What's interesting, I don't know if it's the same for you guys, but I was directing a music video this past weekend, and some of the crew, they learned that the actors were streamers. They know nothing of the streaming world. They're like, What is this? I only know Kai Sonat and Speed show up on TikTok. I'm like, Interesting. That's who's broken through the mainstream.

100%. Yeah. I mean, Kai, he's got fucking Nicki Minaj. I think, when my dad came to me and was like, Hey, did you see Nicki Minaj and Kaizenat stream.

I was like, Yeah, I did.

How did you see that? But yeah, it's just it's hella mainstream. And I will say, speed has grown on me. I used to think, he was just a a kid who was really loud and made obnoxious content. Not content for me, but I understand why people like it. But then I just see him yelling, free Palestine all over the place and just taking the craziest side quest, cheese rolling. I'm like, Oh, yeah. I actually think that he does what I would want to do out of content creation. I want to do a bunch of random sidequests. I want to fly to somewhere and bobsled or I want to snow, ski with dogs, and I want to roll cheese down a hill. I want to pop up all over the world and do that stuff. I love what he's doing. He also just seems like a pretty cool guy. He seems pretty cool.

Him and Kai also did a I did a collaboration recently.

Yeah. The internet with the Minecraft. The Minecraft thing. Did you see that?

I love it. They looked like they were going crazy by what, day three?

Dude, put them on Pico Park. Their next collab needs to be Pico Park. That would go so hard. That would actually go so hard. One thing I love about Kai is that the back of his setup is always themed to when he was doing... Yeah.

What's it?

Like, Elden Ring, Minecraft, all that stuff. Yeah. I'm like, That's so cool. That's another thing. It's like, Oh, yeah. If I had the money to just... That's so fun. I love that his house is filled with Minecraft shit. That's good stuff. Good stuff.

How long you think they'll be on top? Actually, do you agree that Kai is on top right now? Because it feels like, to me, King streamer is a constantly changing game.

I think he's on top, but I also am not familiar with the international stuff. Oh, true. I'm not even thinking about that. Because I know that they're really famous Latin American streamers. I think there's a really big French guy or something like that. And then China has its entirely own system of super famous influencers. So I actually don't I don't know. But when I think about Americans, I do Kai is the number one in my head. Then there was Jinksie and Skech, too. But I think Kai is still her, the biggest.

Well, I feel like Jinksie and Skech, I have heard less of. Now, yeah. It was like a flash.

I mean, there's something on my front page the other day.

I don't see him as much. Right now, the only thing I see of Keso is exclusively dressed to impress. I don't know if he does anything else because all I get is his Dress to Impress. And then not even just his Dress to Impress clips, but every time I scroll TikTok, it recommends his stream. Oh, yeah. It's live. And I'm like, Bro, you are live playing Dress to Impress 24/7. This man. I'm like, Does he play other games? I don't know.

That's funny.

I actually don't know.

Is Dress to Impress still popular? For him, it is.

I think it has probably a community now that will always want to play it. Yeah. That's where it's at. But it's not like...

I still get content daily. I still get Dress to Impress content daily on my For You page. Also, the group of YouTubers that's like Quinlan and Taryn, all of them just put out a Dress To Impress video. That did really well. Oh, I'm sorry. Am I disturbing you? You just grumbled at me.

Yeah, because for a little behind the scenes, we were going to do a Dress To Impress IRL video, and we were going to be the first people to do it. But then we were like, maybe it's dying down.

And then we saw- Their video do so well. Yeah. It's funny because it was the exact same concept, too. Yeah. Goodwill, goodwill. We were like, Oh, where do we get the clothes? And they're like, Oh, We'll go to Goodwill, and we'll pick out the outfits, and then it'll be a runway show. And we saw their video, and it was the same thing doing millions.

It's like, Were they listening to our conversation?

I'm like, I guess it's technically not that original. And you just have to come up with the logistics of it. And yeah, Goodwill does make the most sense. But yeah, hey, missed an opportunity, I guess.

They also found the biggest Goodwill ever. Their video was interesting to me because I was like, whoa, that's a lot. That's a big selection.

A giga Goodwill? Yeah. It could have been cool.

I like doing that. I feel like fashion stuff is fun. It could be fun. I mean, we could still do it.

I was reached out to within the past few days by a There was an adult clothing or a lingerie company that was like, Hey, would offline TV like to do a dress to impress with our clothes? Like, lingerie? And they can use our models if your creators are not comfortable wearing them. They would just make the outfits. I was like, I don't know if this is the best fit.

Yeah.

Interesting.

That's funny. I had something similar. They started separating DMs on Instagram, so you can see partnership messages now. And I I got a DM from the most raunchy brand ever. And they're like, Hey, we want to send you these sets. And then, honestly, I just have to show you because I can't... When you see it, you're going to laugh. So the first message is like, Hey, We want to collaborate. And then it's like, Here's our new selection of things. Okay, so they send me this and this. They're like, This is our new selection of things. They're like, And if that's not stream-appropriate, we've linked a more stream-appropriate. Stream-appropriate?

Stream-up. It's stream-appropriate.

Guys, for those of you who can't see, it is a literal lingerie. I'm talking a bra, see-through underwear and garters. And then they're like, If that's not stream-appropriate, here's what you can wear on stream. And I'm like, Who? I'm not wearing... Okay. And then their stream-appropriate option is a mini-skirt that I don't even think covers your butt, and then basically a bra top. And I'm like, Well, it is very you to offer. I'm not going to be wearing this anywhere, anytime that anybody could see. But thank you. It was just wild. It was like they knew enough to be like, Oh, this isn't stream-appropriate, but not enough about me to know that I would not do that. This is crazy.

Crazy stuff. What other weird or crazy DMs do you get from brands? If you can share.

From brands? Yeah.

Not sure, but there's some gambling ones that we'll try to be like, Hey, or supplement One, sometimes, depending on the supplement, you're like, This doesn't seem right. Then I've gone maybe sex toys or something.

I'm curious if you guys have got this DM, because for some reason I did. I got a DM from an adult toy company that basically boiled down to, Hey, would you like to make a custom toy for your fans? What?

Like a penis mold?

The way that they described it is like they make vagina molds. So I was like, Are you wanting to make one of my butt? What?

Can buy a Broden butt hole? That would be crazy. That would be crazy.

And then they followed up by saying, And we know the casting for that, it gets messy and it's uncomfortable. So you can just send us some photos. And I was like, Is this even a real brand? Or are you just soliciting for photos of me?

You just want aspects, bro? That's crazy. Yeah. That's crazy. I've gotten sex toy advert stuff, but that is insane. Yeah. But honestly, really smart for creators who do something like that. You can sell a mold of your vagina for probably thousands. Yeah.

That is crazy. I don't cook. I don't cook. Yeah.

Hey, if you guys want the opportunity, I'll forward you the message. Yes.

Thanks. Yeah, I would say the craziest I've gotten is just general sex toys, not custom sex toys, and weed products, which is like, I'm not going to...

And DMs for feet pics.

Oh, yeah. Dms are another beast.

Serious business inquiries. Yeah.

Yeah. They're like, Oh, are you looking for a sugar daddy? Or like, How much Are you denied?

Are you not?

You think I am?

You're thinking about it.

No. But maybe if me and Somi were really on the streets, I would to be thinking about it. Because I know there are sites that you... What's it called? Something, Arrangement? There's some site that you can go and then you can put yourself up there, and then people will be like, Okay, I will pay you X amount per month for you to go to four meetings, four dinners with me, or something like that. They take you out to dinners, wherever. Or people are going on helicopter rides, or they just want you to attend an event with them. Stuff like that.

I always say- Do you think arrangement? I haven't heard of it.

Yeah. I have a friend who is a sugar baby for a bit on there.

How was it?

She said that her experience was a couple of thousand dollars a month from one person, and they would just want to have dinner.

I mean, get paid a thousand bucks to get dinner every month? Yeah.

Go to dinner? Yeah, you could. My favorite content creator on TikTok right now, her name is Blue-Eyed Kayla Jade, I think. I'm pretty sure that's what you're talking. She is a full-service sex worker in Australia, and she just chats about her experiences, and it is so fucking interesting. I am captivated by this woman who tells her stories about just sex work, and just to see how much money she makes and what she does. She does actual full-service sex work, right? So she's not just going out to dinners and stuff like that. But that part of it, and how much money they make for it, is It's just insane. She's like, Oh, yeah, this is what I made in one night. And she pulls out $10,000. I was like, This was for four hours of my time. Whoa. Yeah. It's insane. It's so insane. That stuff, the companion or whatever, is also very interesting because it's like, I think I would be too scared that they eventually... It starts out with companionship, but then at the end, they're like, Well, I I'll give you all of the money. Now, where's my sugar? You know what I'm saying?

I didn't have.

I didn't want to give any.

It is true. Some of them maybe you could gage.

I'm sorry, sir. Only salt here. No sugar for you.

I always say... I'm the same. I'm like, Okay, say me and the Boys, we was about to end up on the streets. I'm selling feet pics. I'm selling feet pics, man. The cosplay exclusive feet pics. Hey, sometimes you want dates with people that you dread, and you don't even get paid It's hard to get paid for it.

That's true. You know what I mean? At least you're like, At least I got paid here.

Have you had a bad date? I don't think I've ever had a bad date.

I haven't been on many, or any, for that matter, much.

You've never been on a date.

Everyone that I have dated, I have been friends with initially first, so I've never had really aBad first date. Yeah. Which maybe, you know what? I don't know. It'll happen. I've had accidental dates.

What does that mean?

You went on a date not knowing it was a date, and they intended for it to be a date. I had one of those. I had someone who I had met at an event, and then literally on my way there, they were like, Oh, and it might be cold outside. This is an outdoor I was like, I can get a blanket or something. And I was like, A blanket? I was like, I brought a jacket. And then he was like, Yeah, afterwards, and we can go to my apartment if you want, but I don't know if you're uncomfortable with that. So maybe we could just grab dessert nearby or something. I'm like, Apartment? And I was like, Wait a second. I messaged my friend. I was like, Hey, so I'm going to be in your area. I might need a hard out at seven. But I was telling... And then we're going throughout the... And then we're throughout the meeting. Because we meet people and they'll be like, Oh, let's grab lunch or dinner sometime. You never know if it's a content creator or you're just socializing or doing whatever. So in the middle of it, he was like, Oh, it's just...

Yeah, I thought you were really cute and everything. And I was telling him like, Oh, no, I'm not ready for anything yet. And he's just like, Okay, if you ever do, though, let me know. I'd love to take you out. So it was very forward and respectful. But basically, that was the accidental part of it.

I see.

Yeah.

I feel like I've heard about your accidental date, but have you told it on the pod? Because it's a good story.

I think I have, actually. But the rundown was basically, I was hit by a friend to go take photos because she took photos and I took photos. I was like, Yeah, let's go take photos. So we went out and we were just snapping shots for an afternoon. And then when I got back, she kissed me at my doorstep. I was like, Whoa, what? I was like, I'm sorry. What's going on here? And then she got really like, Oh, I didn't mean... Sorry. And then left. And then, yeah. Yeah, it was awkward. Yeah.

Did you guys talk about it after?

No. She ended up telling her roommate that I had led her on. And then I heard it from a friend of a friend. I was like, Hey, what you did really wasn't cool. I'm like, What the?

What? Yeah, what you did? Not cool.

That's so tragic. It's actually so tragic.

I had one where I got to a dinner. Again, he was another content creator, so I thought, whatever. The place that he ends up picking is this nice Italian pasta place or somewhere. I didn't know. I basically went there, got there, and I was like, Whoa, this place is nice. It's some dim light setting or whatever. And I get there, he's like, I met him at the club. This guy is there now with a button up and just sitting there very like, oh. And when I get there, I just think our conversation could be very chill or casual. So I could be talking about content or other things. Starts He was asking me about my life story, where I grew up and everything. And I'm like, oh, okay. And bays for the meal at the end. It drops me off at home. I'm like, okay.

I see.

I did not really agree to this in that way, but like, okay.

This has never happened to me, guys. I've never had an accidental date. I'm trying really hard because I can't tell if you guys are the outliers or if I'm the outlier. Comment. Please let us know if you've had an accidental date because I'm really genuinely curious.

I think it's common because people will just be like, Oh, you want to grab food? And then you don't know what the intention could be because sometimes they might not want to say, Hey, you want to go on a date? They just want to hang out.

Maybe that's why, because I don't ever agree to those. When people just meet me and they're like, Oh, yeah, we should hang out. I'm like, . Knowing full well we are not going to hang out. At least not alone. I don't know that I would hang out with someone alone for the first I've done that maybe twice since I've moved to LA. And the rest of the time, it would be a group setting for me.

I do that a lot with girls and guys. People that I meet, they'll just, I don't want to grab lunch? I'm like, Yeah, I'm not. I'm like, Can I go for dinner? Sure. It happens so much that I...

I feel like that's probably why. I feel like if you're an actively friendly social person, at some point, you've been on an accidental date.

I'm actively friendly and social.

You just said you're not going out with people.

I'm just Lazy.

Yeah, exactly. Just lazy. I feel like me and Brohman are the type when someone's like, Oh, you want to grab dinner? Most likely we'll be like, Sure. Yes.

You two definitely will go out. You're quite extroverted in that extent. Yeah. No accidental dates. Now I feel like I have to go on one. I'm going to just start this. I'm going to have a yes year.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm. No, not.

Yeah. For anyone listening, invite, sit out for dinner. Yeah. See what happens. I won't go.

Let's see if he is going to have a yes year.

I won't go. You went to a fan's wedding. I did.

That's how-I wouldn't do that. I don't think I would do that. It's crazy.

I will say I was not sure how it was going to turn out because I didn't know them that well. I think it's different if you Basically, what happened was I was at Pax East, and then he was like, Oh, I'm going to propose to my girlfriend. Can you send us... Can you record the congratulations video? The guy was so confident he knew she was going to say yes already. Basically, say a congratulations video. So I'm like, Yeah, sure. And then afterwards, they came in my chat and they're like, Oh, my gosh. She said yes. I'm like, blah, blah. I'll send you an invitation. And I wasn't sure, but basically, how I felt was if things aligned, then like, No, I'll take in it because I was a little bit more part of it than... Because I've gotten Twitter DMs before people like, Hey, can you and Toast come to my wedding? And I have no attachment or reason with you, but this person I had met in person with their friends and stuff, and they're pretty nice. And then I ended up going, and it was one of the best experiences. It's one of those, I'm so glad I did this type of things afterwards.

It was a Filipino wedding. They fucking know how to throw weddings and party.

I'm sure.

Yes. Everyone is on the dance floor. They're playing banger music. Even the aunts, uncles, grandmas, grandpas, they are there and they have line dances or specific things that they do. They sat me at the bridal party that was really sweet. They had other OTV fans there. A girl knitted me in this really cute OTV thing with a pink bow on it. It was really sweet. There are a lot of people, so nice. They taught me how to line dance and everything. That's why I said it's one of the best experiences ever.

If that wedding was anything like my quadruple birthday, I know it was good.

Your Filipino birthday? It was so nice.

I don't know. If it were anything... If it were just a very mellow and maybe not as active wedding, I think I would have still enjoyed it, but not have been raving about it as much, maybe. Yeah. Yeah. But it was something that I saw old people. Remember when Fiver Sugar back in the day, appear people's weddings. I just thought it'd be a cool thing. Something cool.

I think I have a couple of viewers where if they invited me to their wedding and it aligned, I I definitely go because there's some people who have been a part of my community since the early days. Or a lot of my early community members were people that I used to hang out and game with beforehand. So it's like, yeah, I could see myself going to those weddings. I definitely thought it was more like just a random wedding The invitation that you got. They were like, fuck it.

That's crazy. It was close a little bit, but I had... If not for that interaction.

Well, there you have it. If you want Sydney or Yvonne to go to your wedding, get to know them first. I think that's going to end this portion of the podcast. If you'd like to watch more, we are going to do a Patreon version a little bit after this. But yeah, that was episode 12. Thanks for watching, guys.

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