Transcript of Chiefs' First Win, Thiccest Sixes and Leonardo DiCaprio & Benicio del Toro's First Podcast | Ep 156

He's here. He's here.

Let's go.

Keep it cool. Keep it cool. They're here. Keep it cool.

Keep it cool. I can't. I'm super excited. This is fucking so badass.

Play it cool. Play it cool, guys. Leo Vinicio.

Let's go.

What's up, Travis? What's up, Jason? How are you guys doing, man?

It's an honor being interviewed by you guys.

Thank you.

Our first podcast, fellows.

This is the first one? Oh, my gosh.

We don't know what's going on.

Let's go, baby. Let's go. You Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. A Wondry Show brought to you by reesa'soreocups. Com. I'm telling you, if you haven't tried these things, you need to try these things. If you put a cup with the Oreo You're not going to be disappointed. We are your hosts. I'm Travis Kelsi, my big brother Jason Kelsi out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio. Our Cincinnati Bear cats are coming to Kansas this week. They got the Jayhawks. Shout out to Matt Nagui, son Tate Nagui, who's a freshman over there. I love the Nagui family, but the cats are coming back to the. Come on. Let's go.

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Stay on the win train, baby. Subscribe on YouTube, 100 plus wherever you get your podcast, and follow the show on all social media. I had a New Heights show with one S for fun clips throughout the week. Jason. Yeah. Why don't you tell the people what we got coming up. We got a fun one.

We have a really fun one. We got coming off of two wins for this past week for the Keltcher Brothers. The Chiefs officially win against the New York Giants. Officially win. And the Big Apple getting that monkey off the back. We'll also get into the real reason behind the birds come back. The rest of an insane week three. And Leonardo DiCaprio and Benicio Del Toro are here. I don't know how the fuck we got these guys. How the fuck did we get these guys? I know. They're going to talk to us about- What is this show? It's pretty crazy.

Oh, my God. Dude, we got to make this feel a little more professional.

I don't know. If there's anything we're going to be able to do to make this better.

If we're going to give a list to make this better. Actors, human beings, the best of what they do, we got We got to...

We're going to lock in. We're going to lock in. Before we lock in, let's get to some of that new news.

New news. Coming in hot.

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We also got some new news in Kansas City this Friday.

Kansas City.

The KLC Car Jam is back, baby. That's this Friday? That is. It's this Friday, man. I'm going to break out the old school. I'm going to break out some new old schools that I got. We got a 1990 Jeep Wrangler with the wood grain on the side.

Baby, let's go. Let's go, baby. Let's go.

I think it was made in 1989, maybe. That's a good year. 92%ers, we wanted to remind you guys the Kelsey Car Jam is this Friday. We'll have an amazing block party style event that showcases some of the city's top automobiles, including some of my personal. There will be food, there will be drinks, there will be games, and a whole lot of fun for everyone. There's only a few tickets left, so get yours now. Proceeds benefit 87 and running. My foundation that helps out underserved youth in both the Kansas City area and back home in Cleveland Heights, Ohio, and just the Cleveland surrounding area. Two cities that I absolutely fucking love. Please show up. It's going to be a blast. It always is. Thank you for everybody in the foundation, 87 and Running, for putting this on. Every single year blows my mind, and I can't wait to see it this Friday when KC comes up and shows out, baby.

No doubt. It's a fun one every year. I highly recommend it. Is Operation Breakthrough going to be there again? Oh, yeah.

All the time? All the time.

It'll be great.

All right. Now, last bit of new news. Jason got a new side quest. Jason.

Travis.

Are you working on your saxophone skills?

It was the first time I played in a long time. It was...

I thought you fucking crushed it. And this is how I know you crushed it, because I didn't hear yours.

Yeah. No, that's why it was good.

And as long as you don't, either you were faking it or you were sounding good enough to where it didn't sound like a middle school orchestra where there was that one fucking out of tune wrong note.

Oh, I was definitely doing it. I was definitely doing it. You just couldn't hear it because it wasn't a loud enough instrument on its own.

Dude, what an epic fucking song. Are you kidding?

What? When they were like, We're going to do the Monday Night Countdown theme, I was like, All right. I picked up the sax that morning, and I was like, All right, I got to see if I can play this thing. I haven't played this thing in forever. The last time I tried, I just couldn't even make a sound at this music store. I was like, So bad. I picked it up and I'm starting to play it a little bit, and I'm like, All right, you know what? I can do this.

What did you play? Little Hot Cross Buns?

Would you play? I did do a little bit of Hot Cross Buns, a littleLet's go. Mary had a little lamb. Mary had a little lamb.

Dude, I remember this shit like it was yesterday.

The easy ones. Then I went right into it. For those of you that don't know, Barry Sacks. Take me back to middle school when you were in practice every fucking day. Barry Sacks for a marching band is whenever you're doing marching music and you're a bass instrument, you're pretty much just going...

While the brass and everybody else are doing the melody. It was not the I heard this piece of music, and I still found a way to fuck it up. But it was fun. Nobody knew you fucked it up, dude. I fucking thought you crushed it. The bit that they did where they actually showed the full song, bro, I was a proud brother.

And I couldn't hear you fucking up.

So you must have played it perfect.

That's good. I mean, I just fit in. I was getting a lot of help from a lot of the marching band members there. So these guys were awesome. We're going to play it. Here we go. She just got me I fired up.

So badass. I loved every fucking second of it. Appreciate it. I was sitting on the fucking couch waiting to hear your take on the Eagles game, waiting to hear your take on the fucking Sunday night game. And here you are with a fucking marching band, which I fucking tell everybody, you are a linebacker that had the most tackles in the game, a running back that had the most yards in the game, and you played in the bar. You played in the bar, you had a halftime, which you didn't do.

No, never did.

You could have. I asked the question, why not, Jason?

Because I was making halftime adjustments, all right?

Yeah, I thought there were a lot of halftime It was like, I'm going to have to make an adjustment for the Clevelandites Tiger.

That's right. I was trying to catch my breath, but yeah, no, it was fun. I put the hat on, and it was like, I think it could have fit if I would have readjusted it. I was like, No, this is perfect. It It's mind to me, do you remember the movie Drumline?

Do I remember Drumline?

The one guy, right before-Affron Classic. Right before they get into the fight, they're doing it, and he's got the thing. He's too fat, and the thing's just in his teeth while he's doing it.

Is that what it is?

Yes. We can pull up that picture.

I don't know what it is.

That was in my head. I put it on. I was like, I feel like that guy in the fucking movie. And I'm like, yeah. And then they're like, We adjust. I was like, No, this is the way it needs to be. Don't re-adjust this. We can't make This needs to be comedic in some way. So that was good.

This guy is just going to be in every marching band known to man.

Definitely not. Not going to make this a thing.

Every marching band in the NFL, Monday night, Jason's hitting it.

I don't think there's many marching bands in the NFL. I think the Ravens are the one that have a full marching band. It's the largest marching band in all of the NFL, 150 people in it.

I'm sorry, what?

It's a full marching band. It was pretty legit. I like promoting the arts and promoting music and to have an instrument on my hand. I think a lot of the times, you don't get to see that side at football.

You made it look so cool, dude.

I did not make it look cool.

I want to play saxophone. Yeah, you did.

I want to wear a hat with a chin strap on my nose. Yeah, well, you I always have a big head. I do. That's a Kelsey trait.

It is. Thanks, Ed.

It was awesome. It was a lot of fun. They were more than accommodating and made it super easy for me, which I appreciate you guys. Baltimore Ravens marching band. That was a lot of fun. Hope you guys enjoyed it. Sorry for being really shitty at saxophone now, but had a blast.

Hold on. Do you want to see all the pictures your mom sent us?

Mom had a bunch of pictures. Yeah, that's when I was-Oh, my fucking gosh. That's when I was playing alto sax before I switched to Barry.

Dude, look at this.

It's a young Jason Kelsi, Fraxie.

That's Barry.

That's when I got the big guy.

Dude, look at that. What a fucking guy.

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I have one, I guess, for Monday Night Countdown. I go to the production meeting, then I iron out what's happening in the rundown, then I go to the makeup lady, then I go to the hair, and then I go on set.

Just curious to see if you were putting that same game day energy into your a new broadcasting routine. That's all.

Well, first and foremost, it includes making sure that this beard is looking real nice, which is finally starting to show some of my grades again. After dying it, I'm getting those natural colors back. Thank you. Thanks so much. But yeah, I have some grooming individuals that make sure it's looking nice and tidy.

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Back in the win column, baby.

Back in the win column.

Let's fucking go. Does it feel good? It does feel good. That was not a great performance, but a win is a win. It's hard to win in the NFL, man. I'll take a win any way I can get it.

This is the first ever road win against the Giants in franchise history.

It's pretty crazy. Our franchise record against the Giants is pretty insane.

What is it?

It was like 4-13 or something like that.

Wow. I guess you think about it, the Giants used to be good.

I don't think I've ever beaten the Giants up until today. I lied, I beat them before.

When you got into the league, the Giants were just fading away from that Eli Manning, Super Bowl era Giants.

They still had Eli Manning, and they still beat us.

Yeah, but they weren't Super Bowl era Giants anymore. Because my second year, 2012, was It was the second Super Bowl they got, right?

Damn, you're like a dinosaur, man.

That was my second year in the league. I remember Marnie Mourningwigg. When we went to the holiday party, we were out of it already. I remember asking Marny, Hey, who do you think is going to win the Super Bowl this year? Giants are like eight and eight. Nothing special. He's like, Honestly, I think the Giants are going to... They're peaking at the right time. Their defense is stacked. And he called that shit. They went on a run and freaking won the whole damn thing.

So off to Spags.

There we go. All righty. Well, you guys got it done this week in the Metta lands. Yes, we did. A little frustrating first half. It was a lot closer than it probably needed to be. Chief settled for three field goals in the red zone. Is that right? All of them in the red zone?

It was big red zone. I think we got past the 30. We got hit with a few panel of these that put us in third and longs and kicked ourselves once we crossed the 50. But Harrison Bucker right there to punch him through for us and get points on the board. I will say it feels like we're rolling. It feels like we're starting to get this thing going on offense. Our defense is playing stellar, both this game and last. Absolutely phenomenal performances. Stopping the run is the biggest thing. Our DBs are playing really good. We had a few turnovers, and when you win the turn over battle, you typically win the game. Helps out. One of the craziest plays I've ever seen in my entire career was the Pat Mahomes' pass that ended up being a backwards pass that he then went and ripped it out of the defensive play.

I don't think that any other quarterback makes this play, dude. This was such- What the fuck was that?

There was so much chaos in my mind. I turned around like, What? We got it back?

What do you think is going into Pat's head right there? When the ball hits the ground, what's his- Oh, fuck. No, but he's doing it in the right voice. Come here, boy. He's like, Oh, fuck. Get it, pop. This was such an impressive play. He covered so much ground. And then just like, who has the foresight to jump at the ball?

Dude, it was insane, dude. I told him afterwards. I'm like, Bro, I still don't know how in touch. It's so insane from that angle. He just comes out of nowhere. That boy got hard, man.

It did feel like you guys are starting to get rolling on offense. Defense, like you said, has been playing pretty dang well, right? I mean, especially the last couple of weeks, they've been playing well. And you got pop going, you got the run game active. And then it felt like Pat started, especially in the Second half, taking those shots. We've seen Thornton open down the field for a couple of games now. He's been waiting for it to happen, and all of a sudden it started popping for him. Hollywood Brown made a couple of big catches.

Hollywood has been playing fucking outstanding. He's been that safety net for Pat. I think we're going to keep getting this thing rolling, man. Hopefully, we get Xavier back here soon and got Rashe Rice back in the building. I know we don't get to see him for another three weeks, but he'll get his engine rolling and practices and back in the building and get the swagger back of having the whole unit together, man. And even Juju Smith's usually, I can't say enough about what Juju is to this team in terms of his energy, his accountability. He's always in the right spot, always there for Pat, especially in the rollouts, has a good feel for the game and the offense and just feeling out zones and being in the right place at the right time, man. Just always accountable in the run game as well. So I think we're starting to catch some momentum as an offense. I think that comes with, like you said, getting pop going, getting Kareem going, and these big guys up front being able to just get off the ball and move guys. That'll help out the pass game a lot.

Then it just felt like between Pop, the receiver, and every time somebody got a ball thrown to them or they got a chance to make a play, everyone was fighting and running, and there were broken tackles. It felt back to some vintage Chiefs, just speed and energy and effort. It was just fun to watch. It was a lot of fun to watch this past week.

Second half felt a lot more like Chiefs of the Ball.

I still felt like in the first half, even though the points didn't get there, it felt like guys were breaking tack because it felt like guys were making plays. You know what I mean? Where it felt like for the last couple of weeks where even when the completions are made, it's almost like a tackle happens right away, or Pat isn't able to find anybody, so he takes off. It felt like now guys were going out making incredible incredible catches. That Thornton catch down the field was a fucking fantastic play. What happened? He got a penalty, right?

No, he caught the one right before, and as he's going down as he's going down to the ground, elbow- It moved.

That's what it was. That's what it was. Thank you. Then to come back and to make that second one, I'm like, Oh, my God.

The second one was even harder than the first one.

I don't know how the hell he caught that.

Just puts the point up in the air. He's like, I gotCaught it through the defender. No doubt about it.

Boom. That is such a great catch, fallen and sticking your hands out, man. Dude, he's been- I love that dude, man. You've mentioned this even on the side. You've been waiting for this kid to come on.

He was a steal. I don't know how he got out of New England, man, but we're appreciative that they let him go because he's a smart football player, sure hands, on top of that, can run with the best of them, a big body, long arms. He's a smart football player. Smart football players are going to fucking thrive in this offense because Coach Reid is going to put you in positions to where you get those one-on-one matchups, man. If you know how to attack it, good things are going to fucking happen. I think him, Hollywood, Juju, we've been rolling, and we've been getting this thing geared in the right direction. I think Pat's just going to keep dialing it in as we go, baby.

I can't imagine being a quarterback back there and trying to make decisions because the amount of things you're trying to process on a play-by-play basis is intense. And the more you build chemistry with guys, I've got to think it makes those decisions a lot easier. And with Pat, it feels like- One thousand %. Yeah. With Pat, it feels like, obviously, he has great chemistry with you. He's got great chemistry with Juju because he's played together. A lot of the other guys, that is still being developed in games.

Noah gray, another guy had a lot of- That's right.

Noah gray.

Had a bunch of They didn't seem like big gains. He had about 30, close to 30 yards, yards called back just because of penalties and stuff. Still, the smaller, the short gains of 6 to 10 yards that you're seeing with just underneath routes and him getting vertical. I mean, that stuff, it gets you a fresh set of downs. It gets you a third in short. You know what I mean? You're in manageable situations. All that trust that you're talking about that gets built up in the offseason in training camp and just being accountable in games, that just makes One Five's job so much fucking easier. He doesn't have to think about where you're going to be or anything like that. He can just feel the game out from that point on. And man, when he's out there, just letting the game come to him and feeling the game out and just being the ball player he is, man, he's the best player in the world. Yeah.

I'll tell you what, it's obvious that he's building chemistry with all the guys out there. But the more he's building the chemistry with Taekwan Thornt, I just think it's going open up so much underneath if that big play, big strike ability comes up. It makes it much, much harder to defend everything you guys are doing. And either way, that moment was a spark, and I think the spark probably had been lit in for a while for the Chiefs, but it started clicking after that. We also got a shout-out. One 92%er who made it to the game, Erica Dushiman.

Dushiman. It's Hydra grandma's motherfuckers.

I was waiting for the countdown. Were you going to punch your grandma? I wanted to, Did you have a grandma in mind?

I didn't see any older women or anybody dressed up like your grandma.

Nobody was asking for it? Everybody was hiding them.

I really didn't have too many chances to get a touch down in this game, but man, we were rolling as an offense, and when you I'm going to put up some big scores, man. Who gives a shit?

Dude, the sign was in fact confiscated.

What?

I guess you can't cuss on- You probably can't cuss or threaten grandmas. I think both of those are probably prohibited at Meadowlands or most NFL stadiums. We're going to get you to punch a grandma at some point this year.

Dude, I'm not punching anybody's grandma unless you dress up like a grandma.

I'm coming to a Chief's game at some point this year dressed as a grandma. If you don't punch me, I'm going to be furious.

I can't wait for the NFL to find me for that one. Go ahead.

Any thoughts on the rest of the game? You guys got the Ravens coming up, coming off a big loss. Huge game, yeah. Monday night.

They're going to be hungry, man. They're going to be hungry and pissed off, man. I'm sure they felt like they've handed these last two games away. Even though the lions played a hell of a fucking- Lion.

Honestly, I came away more impressed with the lions than anything because I think the Ravens are legit, unbelievable team. They are. And I still think they are. But the lions, especially off of that week one thing that happened in Green Bay. It's like, Oh, there's a lot of questions. Yeah, they played better against Chicago. Let's see how they do against Baltimore. They were them Dan Campbell, Lions, across the board. They did some creative things, but they also- That's who had a monster back there in the run game. They They lost Frank Ragnar this offseason, retirement. Zytler left, but they went back. They were doing some creative stuff, but there was also just like, Dude, they were lining up and running right at them. They were running a duo up and down the field I don't know what play it was, some version of jab, rub, or just like- There was some creative stuff off of it, but for the most part, it was pretty obvious. They got a big edge and they ran right at them. There's not many things that are more like deflating, demoralizing than a team that just lines up and you know what's coming, and it still is coming at you.

It was an impressive, impressive game for the Detroit Lions. And you're right, Baltimore. You know John Harbaugh? He's in there this week. Oh, come on.

I think they got enough guys and enough vets on that team to wear it. I don't even think it takes Harbaugh to come in and challenge those. Those guys are going to want to get that shit fixed themselves. I expect them to be fucking rocking their roll. You're going to get their best, for Yeah. But excited for the challenge, baby. Excited for the challenge. Excited to take this thing up in the- This is why we play. This is why we play the fucking game, baby. Let's move on to some other football news out of week three. Some other Big stories. Eagles 33, Rams 26. Let's get to your birds, brother Jason, you and Kyly were at the link for this game. We were getting some updates on what was going on as it wasn't going well for the birds to start off.

It was a terrible start. Well, actually, to start the game, it went incredibly well. They dialed up a... I don't know. We called it a replacement blitz or a simulated pressure, where it feels like a blitz, but it's really only a four-man rush. Zack Bond read Stafford's eyes just like, very well.

Hell of a player, man.

And like, typical quarterback, like you felt the blitz come, throw where the blitz came from, should be a hole there. And Zack just made an incredible play and started out, capitalized on that, scored a countdown, a little push-push action. And all of a sudden, we're up seven-nothing. I think this game, Yeah, there we go. Eagles are back. And then it was proceeded to be about two quarters of some of the most horrendous Eagles I've seen in a long time. It was bad. The way it ended for me wasn't great either. But I think we had five, three and outs. You want to talk about struggling. We were struggling.

Did you start hearing the boos?

Oh, my gosh. Second drive. It was like one of those where it was a third and long situation. I feel like it's hard. What do you call it? You go to a screen, you go to a draw to try and just get something back because you know you're not picking it up. Then immediately, it's like, Boo. It's like, Yeah, I feel it. I get you. But It was- That's tough, man. Fuck. Listen, first of all, the Rams are a great team. Their defensive line is stacked, their offense is stacked. They do not have- Matt Stafford is a fucking top quarterback, and he's been doing it for a long time. Devante Adams, Pukunaku. They are loaded. Kyron Williams was... I mean, that was the one thing that was the most surprising. Our run defense has been pretty good. And Kyron, he was giving it to us for a couple of quarters there. The Rams were playing a hell of a game. They had a hell of a plan coming in. And it feels like a lot of the times when you're caught in that moment where you're going three and out, you just need one play to happen to get some momentum going, and it just wasn't.

And you go into the game with all these openers and everything, especially first and second down. Sometimes they're just not there, and you're just waiting to get a play off. It was just a nonstop sack here. They missed an assignment here. The safety's rotated the rally. Dude, it's the worst. It was like a perfect- It was the worst. It was just like a never-ending just misfortune as well as core performance.

Ended the half with negative one passing yards, which is, I mean, impressive, But not the impressive stat that you want.

In times where that's happened before, one of the things I think the Eagles have done a great job, especially with Jalen, is just going on the ball. Let's get into our bread and butter. Let Jalen be point guard. It was fun to watch in the second half because you got to see what these guys are capable of when they are performing at their best. Everybody's been waiting for A. J. Brown to have a game this year. It's been a frustrating start to the season for him, I'm sure, and for the entire team, and for him to go out there and just like... The first catch over the shoulder, he had a third down catch where he's two yards short, right? And he's throwing people off of him. One of the strongest players in the league. He is incredible.

Well, everybody loved watching the second half, except for Kylie.

Well, Kylie is very superstitious, as we all know.

You know what?

Everybody knows-She doesn't mess around with these superstitions. One of my favorite TV show episodes of all time is is how much the fan superstition really fucking matters.

And it was your episode on Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Sure enough, she turns around one time and just says, You know what? Go ahead. Why don't you tell this story and how it all unfolded?

But honestly, she turned around. I think this was right before the drive with the big throw to AJ. We're all celebrating because we finally got something going offensively. I looked back and Kylie's seat about, She said, We got to We got to change the mojo. We got to change the mojo up. She started switching around. And then we ended up scoring that drive, and it's like, Yeah, Kyle, I'm sorry. You're not allowed to turn around for the rest of the game. It wasn't even me saying that. Kyle was saying to me like, Hey, Jade, sorry. I'm going to be turned this way watching the rest of this game. Can you give me some updates? And then it was working out so well that Hannah Einbinder joined in right here. She started looking the other way. It was a full team effort of anything they could do to try and send the juju their way. It was an awesome second half. It's not the way want to win in the NFL. Full disclosure, the Rams should have won that game. They outplayed the Eagles. But sometimes things aren't going to go your way. What you expect and prepare for, it doesn't happen, and you struggle.

And to be able to get a win when you play like that and the game gets dictated like that, to not quit when you're down 26 to 7 in the third, and to keep fighting and clawing to the very end and to come out I just thought was an amazing outcome for what otherwise was an abysmal day for the Philadelphia Eagles. So they get to move forward now, and I guarantee they're going to be hard at work fixing this. They're going to be hard at work. How do we get out starting better? It's one of those where one of the problems when you win is that things get masked. One of the great things about when you lose is everybody's motivated to make all these corrections because we just lost a football game. This is one of those where it feels like we lost. I feel like a lot of the coaches are motivated to correct some things, but at the same time, we didn't lose. We won with one of the most spectacular finishes to a game we've ever seen with Jordan Davis. I mean, not only blocking it, picking it up and running it back for a countdown.

And by the way- At 300 and whatever fucking pounds he is, what a fucking beast.

And I could not be happier for this kid. He is such a workhorse. He has matured so much.

He started hitting the weave. He's like, Dude, I know I'm getting You love it when it happens to good dudes, man.

And not only were the Eagles fans going crazy because the Eagles just won, the spread was three and a half. So even if it's just a block, most of the fans in that stadium are losing because they're taking the spread as well. And all of a sudden, his man picks it up, runs it back for six. A lot of Eagles fans were extremely happy on that one. That's a SVP bad beat right there. Bad beats. That is a definition of a That's a great play that's illustrated how far he's come. You know what I mean? He's always had the potential to see how he's gotten his-Second year. No, third year. Third year. Third year guy?

Oh, I apologize.

I'm actually, might be fourth. Is he a fourth year? He was the year before Jalen. I played a year with Jalen. This is Jalen's third year, so it's got to be his fourth season. Interesting. So JD, he came in like a young kid. And I just think that you see the maturity and the growth that he's had as a person and a player. He's gotten his weight under control. He's in better shape than he's ever been in, and it's paying dividends on the field. He is playing lights out in the middle of the defense right now, and that was just an awesome moment to really solidify him on the national stage. So happy for Jordan Davis and everything he's put in to get to this point. Happy that the birds were able to get a win, man.

How about it? Fat guy TDs, man. Most exciting thing in football every time. It'll never not be the most exciting shit you'll ever see. Fat guy's running, period, man. It's the best. You get some big boys fucking hauling ass, man.

That is one of the great things. It's one of the great things about football is that on one side, you have Tyree Kill, who is just the most agile human being I've ever seen. And then on the same field, you have this Jordan Davis, 340 pounds, and he's still an incredible athlete in his own right. Even outside of that, you got offensive linemen that can't even get up to 15 miles an hour running out there. Oh, yeah. It's just the disparity of athletes and body types in the game of football will never get old to me. It's just so fun to watch.

It's a beautiful thing, baby. Final thoughts on the game?

Final thoughts are, I'm happy that we won. Damn happy that we won. We got a lot to fix. But again, it's one of those things I think it's encouraging when it just It's not like one of those days where a lot of things are going wrong. We weren't playing well. Let's face it, the Rams have spent all offseason trying to beat the Philadelphia Eagles. They lost the playoff game. So all offseason, they've been dedicating resources and everything to defeating Philadelphia. And I thought they had a great plan coming in. Their players played hard. And for the Eagles to win despite a lot of bad play and things not going their way. I mean, that's about as good as you can ask. And now they get to make the corrections moving forward.

Half of our fucking wins were like this last year, dude.

Seriously. There's something about teams and players. And I know the Jalen thing has been brought up. Everybody just says, All this dude knows how to do is win. And I really do think that the Eagles are uniquely positioned in their mindset of they want to win, and they're collectively motivated in how they prepare and perform. And Everything is designed to just increase the optimal chances of that happening. It's one of the reasons why they oftentimes end up getting it done.

The Eagles game also gave us a new football term. What's that? The wrong game dickhead.

Wrong game dickhead. Wrong game dickhead. What's that? Anybody who wears a jersey that's not Eagles or Rams is a wrong game dickhead. That's what it is. That's a fair point.

That's the offense guy right there.

He's a wrong game dickhead. Or the guy with the Amani 2 on Jersey right here. Why Would you go to an Eagles and Rams game and wear an opposing jersey like that? It makes no sense. Wear a white T-shirt. Wear a black T-shirt. If I see that, I'm going to call you out. You're going to be on my Instagram as wrong game dickhead.

Can people follow that somewhere?

Joeyd3444, Instagram.

For all the wrong game dickheads, follow that.

That's pretty fucking good.

I can get on board with that.

I get on board with it. I mean, that's like you go over to London or some of these international games.

That's a That's a different world. They don't get to see football as much.

It does feel weird when you're at a game and you see a jersey that's not of one of the two teams playing. It's like, What are we doing here? You're just announcing that you don't care about this game? I don't understand I'm not even aware what the purpose of this is. You're a Justin Jefferson fan? I get it. You're a go-sports fan? Yeah, this is great, but this isn't the time to be- Go-sports. I'd rather just wear another sport at that point. Just wear a New Jersey Devil's jersey. What the fuck are we doing?

I don't That's fucking funny.

Anyways, I can get on board with that for sure. We also have an insane witching hour in the span of 15 minutes. Talk about one of the most insane 15 minutes of NFL football watching Sunday from this past week. The Goals, obviously, blocked a field goal, then scored a go-ahead, then blocked a game-winning field goal with a scoop and score. That was an insane 15 minutes, but also in that same time frame. The Browns, down 10, nothing, tied it at 10, then blocked a game-winning field goal from the other team, only for a few plays later to kick their game-winning field goal. The Jets were down 23 to 6, and Tampa is kicking a game-sealing field goal to go up nine. The Jets blocked the field goal score to go ahead 27, 26. Baker then, of course, like Baker does, leads another fourth-quarter game-winning drive. Seven game-winning scores in final three minutes on Sunday ties a record for a single week.

Football's better than it's ever been, baby. It is. How about it, man?

This is why it's the best. This is the best?

It's better than it's ever been, man. Fuck.

In total, four blocked field goals in the fourth quarter on Sunday is the most in a single day since at least 1991. Have you Why has been talking about this? Why are the blocked kicks feel like they're way up the sheet?

Why are people trying to get rid of kicking?

What are you talking about? Punts?

No, dude. Everybody's over here like, Why is kicking apart? Because it's a fucking electric play.

Well, it is when you block it. It's not electric when they just are making 60 yarders. It's like it's fucking nothing.

Still electric. No. But it's electric because you're sitting there waiting to see whether he's going to make this 60 yarder for the game or it's going to get blocked.

That's everybody's point is that it's been too easy to make these longer field goals now, and people are tired of it not being like, Oh, is he going to make it? But now, yeah, listen, if people are blocking four field goal kicks, yeah, I'm in. Let's fucking go to the. I'm in on this. I love it. There's nothing more exciting than a block kick. Nothing. Especially a block kick for score. That is such a huge momentum shifter to end a game on that. I mean, that's better than a walk-off home run. Think about the ending a game, lacking a kick, picking it up, scooping and scoring. That is like a walk-off of all walk-offs right there. That is insane.

100 % it is. Gosh. That's epic.

All right. Is any sport ever going to come close to NFL? No, it's not. And here's why. No other sport plays this many games at one time. At the NFL one o'clock time slot and the four o'clock time slot, you know you're going to get so much action in the span of eight hours. It's the greatest. That's why everybody looks forward to it every single week. It's all at the same time. I'm sitting in the stadium, and I'm trying to watch the game, and I'm also on my app watching YouTube TV, other games. I'm checking the scores on ESPN. I'm like, Dude, being a fan, you don't know this yet because you're still playing. Being a fan is fucking incredible. You can watch so much shit.

I've been a fan first. You're acting like, I haven't been a fan of this my entire fucking life.

You're going to find out. You're going to be seeing it a lot more when you're fucking at the game at one o'clock and all this shit's happening across the league and you're fucking- That was at your fucking one o'clock games. All right, whatever. But you don't appreciate it the same way until you're done. You're still so focused into the Chiefs. I still love the Eagles, but now I'm looking at more of everything happening across the league. One o'clock on Sunday is like, fucking, let's go, baby. God damn, that's a fun time to watch a football.

Power me up, man.

All right. Last thing for week three. This tweet was during Thursday Night Football, but we thought it was important to address it. From Got CTE from Playing Peekaboo. That's funny. Ineligible man downfield penalties are fat phobia to off its lime and let the big men roam where they damn well please. I love the tweet. I think it's hilarious. Hilarious tweet. But as much as I would love to go downfield, I do think it's pretty It's pretty unfair if a blindman is downfield, engaged with a linebacker who's supposed to be covering like a hook to curl. I think we can agree that we should not allow a lineman.

I would love to run a shallow cross with Cree Humphrey, blocking the guy that I'm running away from.

It seems a bit unfair from a play-action standpoint on what linebackers... As if what linebackers are being asked to do isn't hard enough, we're going to make this impossible for you to tell whether it's a run or pass. So Yeah, no, I'm very happy that it is a penalty. If anything, I think they could make it two yards. It used to be one yard and a healthy two. Now they go more by the letter of the law. No, you get a yard and that's it. We're done with the RPOs going a little bit further. I do think there's some that are called that are borderline enough on screens or whatnot where it doesn't really impact another player that end up getting called. And I think that's bogus.

But also, if But if the offensive lineman engages within a yard- Yeah, you can block him as far as you want. Yeah. Yes. So I don't know. I think the rule is just fine the way it is.

But sometimes defensive players know this now, and they can disengage with you, and you can still get called. That's happened to me before, where you start blocking a deep tackle at the line of scrimage, you got him two or three yards on the field, and he'll throw you. And now that I'm not engaged, I'm technically downfield. But the only reason I was engaged was because I was blocking a guy within that yardage. I think that shouldn't be a penalty, personally. But either way, the rule is good enough. I think offense has really pushed the limit on this stuff a couple of years ago, and I think the league, rightfully so, to make it fair for defense got it back in line with where the rule and the intent of what it's trying to limit does. What would happen if everyone's eligible to catch a ball? I mean, I don't know. If everyone is eligible to catch a ball, it would be. It would have to drastically change how defense is taught. And the creativity for offense is so great already. If everybody's able to catch a ball, it would open up a lot more creativity in It just feels like it would be too much.

I'm not a fan of it. Part of that's probably just because I know the game and the way it is right now. But thinking of a guard sluffing off and somebody having to be responsible to guard him in case somebody throws him the ball, it just feels like that's a bit too much to me. So I think it's fine just the way it is. I'm also in favor of ineligible numbers. I don't want to see offensive linemen starting to wear number one. I fucking hate that the NFL changed the rule for defensive linemen. I used to love these iconic numbers that defensive ends used to wear, linebackers used to wear. And now I see a D-end and he's wearing number one or number 11. I'm like, Fuck off. Like, wear number fucking 98 or something like that. I'm not into this. If you're a big body, you're playing on the line of scrimage, you should have a big fucking number. I don't want to see this skinny fucking number bullshit. I shouldn't be calling out number 11. He's a fucking good player.

I don't even know what's 11 you're talking I know, bro.

Every offensive tackle in the NFL does Mr. Micah Parsons. Well, he's not a fat boy. If you're playing on the line, you're playing a fat boy position, and you need to be playing with it. I just don't like the whole numbers. I really liked that you could tell, just as a fan, I really by even watching a jersey, looking at a jersey- I want a quarterback to wear 99.

See, I don't want that.

I like looking at a jersey and knowing without even fucking knowing the guy, what position that guy played. There was something about the numbers signifying what position you played. I just liked. I don't know. I just was a fan of it. I don't like that now the numbers mean nothing on defense. Anybody can wear whatever the fuck they want. And then on offense, you still have ineligible numbers. That's fat shame. Now, that's fat phobia. Just off it's alignment or restricted to They're in these fucking 50 to 70. Is that what it is? 50 to 80?

79.

That's bullshit. Everybody should be restricted. No. Receivers are restricted from 80 to 100. What was the old rule? Receivers could wear 80 to 100 or like 1 to 10 or something like that?

80 to 89, and then 1-10. One to 10. 1 to 10. 1 through 19.

1 through 19. And then runningbacks were 20 through 40. 20 through 39. 29. 29. 20 through 49. Linebackers were 40 through Yeah. Although I feel like they could wear 60 because Chuck Bednarik wear 60.

They were getting in the 60s. Yeah, they can get in the 60s.

Anyways, I used to like that. I don't know, man. I dug that history of it and that the numbers had some type of specific reason to why you were wearing it. You don't agree with it?

I don't really. I haven't put too much thought into it. No. Well, that does it for Bold Topics, brought to you by Gillette. The best a man can get.

The stamp of the Week is brought to you by Black Rabbit on Netflix. I already gave Isaiah Rogers the stamp of the Week on the Hemi nomination on Monday Night Countdown. That is my stamp of the Week. But because I gave it on Monday Night, I'll do somebody different for our show purposes. Twitter user Nancy S. Who sent, Intern Branding, Customized Merton. I don't give a fuck about that. Colts Running Bag, Jonathan Taylor. I mean, he has been fucking balling. I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. I'll give my stamp to Jordan Davis for blocking a fucking field goal for the win. I don't know what... I can't think of a better one than that, so I'm going there.

That's a good one. I'm going, breakout games. I'm going Taekwan Thornton, man.

There you go. We're keeping it in the house.

We're keeping it in the house this week, guys. I mean, Taekwan Thornton, a guy that's been knocking at the door, I think, ever since he came to Kansas City last year. Just been grinding day in, day out, getting acclimated, showing the coaches he can be trustworthy. But on top of that, just sharpening iron, just getting in there and perfecting his craft. You love it when a guy comes in and you can see the growth, man. For him to get a game ball on Sunday night, make the big-time plays that he did, and help propel us into our first win, man. That deserves a stamp from me.

I feel like we should start stamping Fans of the Week. We need a fan stamp of the Week, and I think you got to go with the Eagles guy calling out people wearing other jerseys. Give that guy a stamp. That's a fucking call. We got to stop it with the nonsense. We'll do players because everybody wants to hear about players, which I guess that makes sense. But I'm more interested. What is the person at the game?

Show some love. Yeah, show some love to the ones.

I think some of that stuff is way more interesting sometimes. I'm with that. That felt like the one that was like, That was a good rant, a good grind my gear segment that I can get on board with. I'm all in on that. Stamp that, motherfucker.

Stamp that, motherfucker.

I don't know what it means, but you're stamped, Joey. Made man. Made man in the New Heights community. All right, once again, that was Stand for the Week, brought to you by Black Rabbit on Netflix. It's time for our betting segment with our partners, DraftKings Sportsbook. All right, let's build some same gay parlay, guys. Come on in here. Let's build it.

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We missed one of our best last week. We did hit all three of them on the parlay on Monday night. We did. What are we going with this week? We got Seahawks at Cardinals, a little Thursday Night football.

Okay, all right. Jake, I'm going to toss it to you. Over under, currently at 43 and a half. How are we feeling, Jake?

All right, so it's a divisional matchup. Got to keep that in mind.

You got two defensive-minded head coaches.

I'm going to take the under in this game, even though it's a relatively low under, but Thursday night, short week, I'm taking the under here at 43. 5. I like the under, too. The Cardinals have been playing really good defense. My man nick Rallis, the defensive coordinator, not a lot of people know that name. I think he'll be a head coach one day. That guy is very talented, very smart. Seahawks' offense has probably been putting up some points, but I think Cardinals keep this under below that total.

We're taking an under rare for us. All right, okay.

I hate taking an under. I know. It feels dirty. I don't really like it. But it's Thursday, too.

It's Under's hit on Thursday.

All right, so we're taking the Under. What else? We got two other bets we got to do here.

Let's do some anytime touch downs. Those are always fun. All right, Marvin Harrison Jr.

I think that since he's struggling, I'm assuming they're going to try and force him the ball and have some plays designed to get him some touches and some touch downs. If it was somebody else, I would say maybe avoid it, but I think for some reason, I feel like they're going to have some plays designed specifically for him. If I'm trying to get a receiver going, they're going to try and have something specifically designed for him, I bet. I like that. I'd go Marvin Harrison anytime touch down.

I'll take a Marvin Harrison anytime touch down. All right, okay. Last one. We got to mix it up here. We got to do both teams. Let's take a look at Seattle. Anytime, touch down, Kenneth Walker or JSN.

As much as I love my boy Sam Darnold, former Jet, I'm going to think, again, we've been talking about the running game. I think if they're close on the red zone, Kenneth Walker, he's a countdown machine. I'm going to go with Kenneth Walker, Anytime, Touchdown.

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We are in way over our head. I still can't wrap my head around it. You guys are going to love this one.

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Leo and Vinicio, let's go.

What's up, Travis? What's up, Jason? How are you guys doing, man?

It's an honor being interviewed by you guys.

Thank you. Our first podcast, fellows. There we go.

This is the first one. Listen, this is the most unprofessional podcast there has ever been. We act as amateurs over here anyways. All right, here we go. Jason, you want to do the honors? My brother.

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What's up, fellows? What's up?

Oh, my goodness. Thank you.

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How are we doing, fellows? Doing good?

We're good, man. Great. Thank you.

Coming to the end of this press tour for this movie, we've been all over the world, haven't we? La, London, Mexico City. Now we're in New York.

We appreciate your time, man. The movie is fucking amazing. I can't wait to hear everybody's reviews when it comes out this Friday, man. You two in the movie, your dynamic is so fucking good. Leo, you mentioned that it's political without feeling like you're taking medicine. I feel like your guys' dynamic of making it fun and making it like the banter is great. The characters are so great. You feel like you enjoy all the characters. When you saw the script, did you see the comedy aspects in there or the hints of comedy that are in it?

I think the comedy came from the writing and the situation that Paul set up. I mean, he based this on revolutionaries from the late 1960s, put in a modern day context. Then you have my character who's just trying to raise a daughter who can't get off the couch, who's too stone to get off the couch. He can't remember the password from his past, and his only homie he can go to is his daughter's karate teacher. The comedy just came from that whole setup, and then I just continue to fail over and over. You think I'm going to use these espionage skills from the past and I just fall off the roofs? We're drinking and driving. I mean, yeah.

That is one of the greatest parts of the movie. But beneath this very heavy setting of revolutionary things happening and bad actors and the government and all this, really, it's a movie about a father and a daughter. It's so relatable on that level. And then it's also relatable on you're doing the best you can, but you keep fucking up. The password scene was just brilliant. It's now time. All these safeguards have been put in place to actually help protect us. And we can't even get it done because we can't remember the protocol calls.

He's got to deal with horrible customer service.

It's so good. But yeah, there's something about... I'm a sucker for any movie about a father and a daughter, father and a son, any way you strike it. There's just something very visceral when you see a character trying to protect their child. You guys just... You did a wonderful Leo. Benicio did a great job of keeping the cool, had to keep Bob in line, getting him the beer.

Always had a beer for Bob when you saw him. That's right. That's just the O. G.

Always had a Modello light. A man's best friend. That all came from Paul, though.

Paul was writing this for 15, 20 years. He wanted to do a movie like this that was politically charged, but at the heart of it, it is a story about a father protecting his daughter. I think it was very personal to him, too. He wanted to do a story because he was thinking about his own daughter in this crazy world that we live in, right?

Yeah. Well, Leo, you were mentioning before we even started this thing that you had always wanted to work with Paul Thomas Anderson, man, and he's one of the greats. And a guy that, for those that don't know, he writes, he directs, he works a lot of the cinematography. There's a lot on that guy's plate going into it, what was it that really made you want to be a part of something or work with him on a project?

He's one of those generational filmmakers that come along once in a lifetime. I remember seeing Boogie Nights for the first time. I was like, damn, this is a cultural moment. I remember playing that CD in my car for months afterwards, just thinking about that movie, the visuals, just the fact that he delved into the world of and made all this humanity out of it. He created human beings. Then he just kept improving himself after that. From that point on, Magnolia, Punch Drunk, Love, There Will Be Blood was a masterpiece. You just want to be a part of his filmography. You know what I mean? He's one of those great artists that you say, Man, I just love to be a sliver in that man's filmography. Wouldn't you agree?

Yeah, absolutely. I think that he's one of those few filmmakers out there also that is totally original, unpredictable. Also, like you said, he brings that human condition, which means he cares about the process of the actor too, which makes every actor in this film is fantastic. From small parts, big parts, everyone is fantastic, and that's him.

We got to work with a lot of non-actors, too, which was cool. We were in El Paso. We We were at the border in Tijuana. We were in Borrego Springs, Northern California. He brings in a lot of people that have these real jobs that are real shop owners, corrections officers, military, brings all these people in and informs the story. What would you do in this circumstance? And what would you say? We got to work with a lot of people that, I think, informed what we were doing in a lot of ways.

It shined through in the movie. It really does a great job of humanizing some very heavy things throughout. I always love that when you're seeing both sides, everybody's acting in self-interest, human interests, and really letting that shine through is just... It's spectacular when a director nails it as well as he did in this film. So well done, fellows. Thank you, man.

Thank you. I wanted to jump on the director bandwagon here. Benicio, you worked with Wes Anderson in the Finesian, and I fucking love that one. Thank you. It was so… I love the difference in how both of these guys direct in their own worlds and the symmetry and everything, Wes Anderson. What is the biggest difference from a director like Paul and a director like Wes in terms of on set? Just for the viewers that dream about being on a set with these guys and you guys.

I think that Wes is a little bit… He's got everything Everything mapped out. Paul is mapping it out. He's got a playbook, too. Paul has a playbook. He knows what he's going to do, but he allows the actors to go in and find... He's trying to catch the reality in the moment. Wes is trying to find the reality in a contained manner, but you can still bring yourself into it. It's just a little bit more rigid. Because I think Wes is a little bit more like theater, and Paul is a little bit more like a documentary. If you do a play, you got to know your lines. The blocking has got to be pretty much stage. Then I think Paul tries to catch that lightning right there on the spot. He tries to catch it right there. We did many things that are not in the film, but he's just pushing you You get a chance to improvise quite a bit. But with Wes's films, you don't as much. But with Paul, you do get to improvise a little bit, and he might just catch something that was never scripted. To add to what he was saying, there's a lot of sequences.

This is his first action movie, Paul Tomin. We said, he's a master filmmaker. I was curious what he was going to do in this genre. But he had a lot of stuff, action TBD, road trip TBD. That's to be determined. To be determined. This guy comes in straight from Fénitian scheme and he's like, Okay, this is what my character is doing. This is what he's not doing. He's got an underground railroad situation for immigrants. I know this person in the hospital. If you kill this guy, I'm not helping him. We're like, wow. All this stuff, that was what was so cool about working with Paul. We just went on a road trip for a week. Yeah.

I had to set the pick. He had to roll. Set the pick, he goes. I just went in there. I knew I had to set the pick. I knew that.

All that driving stuff with the Modello, that happened in two days. Paul's like, All right, let's get a new car. Let's get some a building for him to have this system. We just went on a little road trip for the movie because Paul's open to that. A lot of writer-directors, I feel like, are very rigid in exactly what they want their film to be. But he let us, the actors, really shape the characters just said, All right, let's go somewhere else. Crew, we're moving out West. Go.

That had to be so refreshing, man. That's so fucking cool. That's got to be not only a badge of honor because he trusts you guys and your professionalism, but that had to be refreshing coming from other sets, I'm assuming.

Hey, he trusts me driving that car going 35, 40 miles an hour with this guy, our protagonist, LD, sitting on the edge of the window, and I'm driving. Every now and then, he will look at me like this. You okay?

It was that eye contact right before.

But he trusts his actors a lot.

I was going to ask, who signed on to this one first between you two?

I did, man. Paul is interesting. He starts a conversation with you. You don't know if you're doing a movie or not doing a movie. He's like, Let's go have dinner. I'm like, All right, cool. Let's go have dinner. We're out in Tarzana, some strange restaurant. Just starts talking to you. Then he took us both to dinner, starts talking about ideas. Then he'll maybe whisper about something that he might be involved in. You're like, Okay, give me a call when that happens. Then four months later, there's another dinner.

Then I get a picture. This is the character you're going to play, and he sends me a picture of a tiger. It's a poster. It's a tiger dressed in a judo kimono, and that's Sensei. I'm going, Okay, I get it. Okay, I get it.

Oh, yeah, there's hints of that throughout theIt's a movie, too. I remember seeing that in the apartments.

Benicio, are you an actual Sensei? Do you do martial arts?

No, I did a little bit when I was younger. I did a little bit of taekwondo, and I did a little bit of judo, which judo was interesting. There's a couple of moves. The sweep that can get you out a lot of jams. But I'm not a sensei. I'm not a sensei.

Leo, I got to ask you about the taser scene. That was a little bit too good acting.

Dude, you beat me through it.

Dude, you got to ask it. Have you actually been tased before? You got to have felt that to be able to do that good.

I just felt the shock of what it must be like. But no, that was not really.

I watched a few YouTube videos and embodied it.

A lot of people are like, Did you do your own stunts? I'm like, Hell no, I didn't fall off that roof, man. I would not be sitting here.

I was in tears, dude. I would not be sitting here.

I was in tears, man.

That was the cool thing about this character. Every time we got up to the point where, Okay, when does Bob do something heroic? And we just were like, No, let him fuck up with it.

Yeah.

He was on his couch getting stoned, and then he found out his daughter's gone. He's paranoid, man. He's not going to be mobile enough to pull anything. All the way to the end of the movie, we still didn't have what the ending was going to be. We were like, Is this where Bob does a heroic moment? And then Paul right there is like, No. What you did is moved on to the next generation. She has to accept the trauma of your actions. You're going to do nothing heroic except be her dad and say, I'm here. And never give up.

And never give up.

Fucking brilliant, man.

Is it harder to act like you've been tased or high on quayludes? What's harder there?

I got to say that quaylude sequence, I didn't know when I was shooting it, but we were there for three or four days. I thought it was a couple of shots, and Marty had 50 shots set up for me crawling around up and downstairs falling, getting in the car. I was like, damn, I didn't know this. The taste thing was like 20 minutes.

There you go. Boom, nailed it.

You guys have both worked with, obviously, we already talked about the two Anderson directors, but Martin Scorstasi, Steven Spielberg. Is there anything that all these guys have in common in terms of all the greats you guys have worked with? Or is there one common denominator?

What would you say that one common denominator?

I would say that the ability to listen, to collaborate. I think the ones that I consider greats, that they will listen, they're willing to collaborate, and some less than others. But I think it would be like a coach that listens to what you're on the field. Yeah, exactly. You're playing it. You could sit on the sidelines and imagine what it would be like, but it's different when you're walking the line. I think that the directors for me are the ones that will allow you to... That will listen to what you say regarding the actual game.

I would just add that some directors, you have to fit into a context or a perception of a world they create. You know what I mean? There's a lot of plots that are hard to unravel, that are very intricate, that doesn't allow a lot of movement. But even those directors, if they allow you as an actor to say... Scorsese says this all the time. He says, I don't care about plot. I don't care about plot. He goes, I want to go with the emotion of what the actor does because that's the story to me. Sometimes it could be less, sometimes it could be more. But When I watch a movie, those are the moments that I remember. I don't think about, Oh, this happened in the plot. That happened. I was like, That moment with those actors, that felt like real life to me. It's funny. It's crazy. Joe Pesci and Goodfellas It was that moment. He's trying to capture those moments of real life that make you feel something, that make you feel like you're a part of the story in a way.

Every movie is different. Every story is different. Every co-star is different. Imagine you guys playing with a different team and a different coach almost every other game. The actor has to be flexible because otherwise you'll break.

On the flip side, is there a common denominator for the actor to have for all these different directors? You guys have been with some of the best directors ever to do it. Is there a common denominator for you guys that you go in knowing that you... I don't know, you have your style of acting, but is there any bend in how you approach things depending on who that director is?

Yeah, I think for me, yes. The bottom line is you have to be prepared. You can't expect a director to be there for you if you're not there for them, too. You have to do your preparation, whatever it is, understand the story, where you are in the story, because a lot of movies are shot out of order. I think that there's a lot of things that go into play, but I think you have to also be prepared.

It's like condition training. We got to know our lines. That's like the basic fundamentals. Go in there, know your lines, and you're going to adapt to different actors and style of doing things. Some people want to go more by the script. Some people, for example, like Jonahill. I mean, this guy's the greatest improvisational actor I've ever worked with. The guy will take the scene off to left field and you got to somehow reel it back in and understand what the hell. We have an ending to the scene. You know what I mean? This character has got to get from point A to... And Jona Hill will just talk about whatever the hell he wants. You know what I mean? You just got to react. You got to be on your toes. There's different actors in all these different films that have different approaches.

But I'm sure there's a bunch of magic that happens when Jona does that. I think, I don't know, there's so many similarities when hearing you guys talk about directors and coaches and teams in football, and that's how us two idiots think about the world.

But the best coaches find ways of creating structure and putting in plays, but at the same time, allowing the personality and the uniqueness of their individual players manifest through that.

That's when it becomes special, is when you have guys who are talented, and how can we utilize these guys to their strengths, Travis, Kelsey, Pat Mahomes, and all that. It just rings so true. It also makes, not to crap on any director's specific style, but as a player, I just love when you get input and you get ownership over what is being created. That's what always makes me feel much better about it. That sounds like exactly the way this movie went down with you guys. That's got to be just such a great feeling know that this thing's coming out and the world's going to see it and that you were such not just a part of being an actor, but a part of actually making the creative piece in a more holistic way.

Part of a team.

Let me ask you guys a question. Are some of these coaches way more structured and rigid and other ones allow you to improvise more? How does it work?

Or is it the same? Leo, there are some assholes out there, man.

I've had the fortune of only playing for one coach. Jason, He's gone through a handful of them, so he's got a bunch of different understanding of it all, I guess. Go ahead, Jason.

Well, just between college and the pros, and I was fortunate. I had one offensive line coach in the NFL. Listen, I'm a good I'm a good teammate. I'm a good player. I've liked, in some capacity, every coach I've ever played for. There's things you like about it, every single one of them, and there's things that you wish were different. But I've been a part of the micromanaging coaches that want everything done in their way, and militaristic. I just don't think that that leads to much creative. It just doesn't ever become the maximum potential that it could be. The coaches that know how to get the most out of people and how to motivate them, let their personality show. It's something Andy Reid, that's one of my favorite things he always says. Andy is one of the best. Let your personality show. He wants his guys to go out there and be themselves because he know he's going to get the best version of them. Instead of trying to make them fit this specific thing, let's find a way to incorporate this guy into the offense. It's just done and it feels better as a player.

It sounds like acting, man.

There we go. Welcome to Hollywood. There we go.

It's just like that. It's exactly like that.

I will say this. Coach Reid came in to Kansas City, and he had to break a culture. My first taste of Coach Reid was very much, You're doing it this way. You're doing it this way. And once we recreated that culture into where he could trust us and we could collaborate and we could make it, that's when we really got the train rolling and started to have a bunch of success, as well as getting a guy like Pat Mahomes.

Everyone starts on that totem pole of like, You're going to do what you're told to do right now. Then as they get to know you, as they get to know your strengths, then you start getting like... They start giving a little bit more. As Stout, my offensive line coach, starts to understand me and we start talking the same language, I feel more empowered to be like, Hey, what if we did this, this, and this? That's a good idea. I like this. Let's try it out. Then it starts developing into a relationship.

At least you asked.

Yeah, sometimes you can't ask. You got to earn your right to party.

There we go, baby. There we go, baby.

You got to earn your right, baby.

There we go. You already know, baby.

I was saying that sometimes the bullets are and you can't ask. You just got to fucking do it.

You got to just go. I do it.

In the middle of a whole situation, you got to do it.

Some directors are very structured, too, and you got to find your way within their structure. Some of them are rigid like that. They have a playbook of exactly how they want the stories to go, and there's not a lot of room to play in that. But I think the funner movies to do are the ones where you get to come in with your own ideas and change stuff around.

There's something about having an experience. You work with an actor like Leo, for me, he's been around for a while. I know we can move. I look will mean something. If he wants to go again, I'll get out of the way, so he goes again. There's that, and that helps a lot sometimes. But we had the experience of working with a lot of non-actors in this film, and it was funny because I think that helped Leo myself, bringing the energy and getting these non-actors to get behind us and believe what we're trying to make them believe. It was really funny. They jumped right in line. They then came in and it set the tempo for Leo and myself that we were both part of a team.

You guys ever gone off script and had a director looking at it and it's like, Come here, son. Come over here. Oh, yeah. Get over here. Don't ever do that with the football ever again. Oh, yeah.

I had a director The director once come up to me and say, Don't ever take off an article of clothing while you're talking.

Why's that?

I guess for the sound.

Oh, for the sound because of the mics.

Because of the mics.

Audio guys.

Yeah, well, I don't know. But he was like, Wow, what the hell?

Do you guys have a welcome to acting? We ask athletes this, and it's like when you first get started. I was playing with Michael Vick, and I grew up watching Michael Vick, and it was just like a holy shit moment for me that I'm actually playing football with this guy. When you guys first got going, were there any holy shit, I'm on set with X, or I'm doing a movie here, or I'm a part of something? What were your guys' holy shit moments for acting?

Like holy shit in a positive way or like a holy shit?

It could be either. It could be either. It could be either. Whatever stands out. It could be either. I had some negative ones, too.

I probably had more negative ones than I had positive ones.

I remember auditioning when I was very young. I was like a child actor. My My stepbrother was an actor, and there were these acting agents that would line you up like cattle, and they just go... I was a breakdancer. I'd breakdance for money on the streets sometimes. I'd like the step haircuts.

Let's go.

It was like, yes, yes, no. They looked at me, no. Then a, yes, yes, yes. They all got agents. I remember saying, my dad, this is horrible. I went back and they did it again. Yes, yes, no. I just remember my dad saying, Someday you're going to have your time, son. Just keep at it, keep at it. Then I got to do... Oh, and then another thing that was funny. I first got my... These aren't holy shit. I'm just thinking about my whole path.

No, this is great. This is holy shit to me. This is holy shit for those agents. Those agents right now are like, What the fuck were we thinking?

Then they gave me my... You remember your first photo that you got?

Oh, yeah, head shots, yeah.

They said, your name is too... I finally got an agent. They said, your name is too ethnic. I go, What do you mean? It's Leonardo DiCaprio. They go, No, too ethnic, they're never going to hire. Your new name is Lenny Lenny Williams. I said, What is Lenny? I was 12: 30. I said, What is Lenny Williams? We took your middle name and we made it your... Now you're Lenny. My dad saw his photo, ripped it up, and he said, Over my dead body.

I'm saying. I don't know the same. He's really our Benny Del.

Benny Dell? Benny Dell.

Mr. Dell. Oh, my gosh. That's a trip. Benny Dell.

Lenny Williams, Benny Dell.

Lenny Dell. Let's go.

This podcast would not be the same with Lenny Williams and Benny Del. I tell you that right now.

That WW intro would not sound the same.

But that moment that you were talking about of, Oh, shit, I remember seeing it, and it brings us back to One Battle was the first time I saw I met Sean Penn. He was that young actor that I was always going like, I want to do movies like he does, the type of movies he does. I think for me was Sean Penn.

It had to be cool working with him on this one, man. Yes.

I I didn't get to... I've known him. I've been a part of his films when he directed, but he was that, Oh, shit. This is Sean Penn. I'm going to go.

Mine was De Niro. Yeah, mine was De Niro. That audition with De Niro that I had.

That's so fucking cool, man.

Are there any other career milestones that you guys are thinking about? We asked this to Brad Pitt, and ironically enough, he said the next thing he would want in his career is to work with Paul Thomas-Anderson, which is just hilarious that he would... Now we're talking to you guys making a Paul Thomas Anderson film, but what is like... Yeah, are there any bucket list career items that you guys want to knock off? There's a lot.

Yeah, there's a lot. I mean, I'm getting one soon. I'm going to get to work with Scorsese again. To me, that man is a national treasure. He's the greatest director, and I just feel so damn lucky to be able to do it. Yes.

Hey, maybe you can call him for me and say, Hey, bring Danny Dell. I got this guy, Benny Del.

I got this up and coming.

You know who's here?

Benny Del?

Benny Dell from the Bronx.

That does sound like a Scorsese actor. Benny Dell.

Benny Dell. Well, let's get into this last segment, guys, to get you out of here. We appreciate you guys. We got one more segment called We Got to Ask. You don't have to answer. You could tell us to fuck off, but We Got to Ask, You Don't Have to Answer. This is a sports podcast, so we got to ask, what is your greatest athletic achievements?

I mean, he can't compare. What am I supposed to compare? I played basketball in high school, and I played Varsity since a freshman.

So I got four letters. That's what I'm saying, baby. That's what I'm saying, baby.

I got four letters.

We're the same.

Yeah, yeah. But I don't have your hands, man. I don't have your hands. I don't have your hands. I'll be in the NBA.

A freshman on Varsity, baby.

Yeah, I never made any Varsity, anything. Tried to in basketball, but me and my friends are too short. I say it wasn't any big achievement, but we went back to play those Varsity guys a few years later. They were destroying us. This is like a half-court game. Three pointers in our face over and over again. I just said to my buddy Alex, I said, Let's go back with the fun Let's be Bob Coosy and Jerry West. There we go. Let's go. We started to whistle the globe trotter's theme. I was like, Pick and roll, baby. We did that. We were doing it so obnoxiously. We actually found a way to win this game. Let's go.

Let's go. Let's go. Yeah, let's go.

We were a little bit of an electric, man.

Yeah, pick and roll. I love it.

Let's get to the rim, baby.

Is there a greatest sporting event you guys have ever seen in person? The favorite sporting event?

Kobe, Shaq, Trailblazers, The Lob. I think that was to win the Western Conference Finals.

God, that is an unbelievable- Then I got to be there for Michael Jordan's last shot in Utah Jazz.

That one, That was incredible.

Those are two fucking bangers, man.

We had Shaq on, and he said that that was his favorite dunk of all time. I mean, that is- The whole stadium just shot up into the air.

I remember that. That was an incredible moment, man.

Vinicio, anything from you?

I'm thinking, yeah, well, I did go to, I think it was 1980, and it was the Six years versus the Lakers, and it was Magic Johnson was the finals. I think it was game four. It's the famous game that Dr. J does that shot. No way. The scoop?

The scoop is on the gas.

You saw that live? That was live sitting up there, yes.

That's another... Oh, man, you guys have seen some fucking heavy games.

It comes from the right guy, he scoops it on. Yeah. Wow.

The ream is right there just watching it.

Oh, that is so good.

It feels like slow motion every time he does it, too, man. He just floats in the air.

I think it was May 11th, 1980.

Damn, you got the.

Yeah, I got the day walk because I got the picture of the shot.

That's pretty cool, man.

That's epic, man. Damn, those are some bangers. What's on your guys's Mount Rushmore of Movies? It could be ones you've been in. It could be ones that you love.

Travis put himself on his own list of Mount Rushmore football players. What do you mean? Here comes a brothers. It's a very He's a very modest man.

I've always wanted to be on Mount Rushmore, okay?

Mount Rushmore Movies. I got to say East of Eden with James Dean. I saw that when I was 14. I got to say Taxi Driver with De Niro. Scorsese. 2001 Space Odyssey. I don't know. I feel like we're doing our greatest four of all time.

I'll just go with the movie that I saw when I was a kid that really impressed me was Papillon. Papillon was amazing. Steve McQueen and Dustin Hoffman. You've seen that?

I'm going to have to put that on the list, man.

Check it out. All right.

Papillon is on the list.

Papillon. Then I think you mentioned on the waterfront.

On the waterfront.

Incredible.

Marlon Brando. Marlon Brando.

That's all we had in here. There we are. Let's go, baby.

We heard Leo mention that he saw a movie and wanted to become an actor. For both of you guys, was there ever a specific moment or a specific movie that you guys watched where you knew that that was like, Man, I want to do that one day?

I wanted to be an actor very, very young, I remember. I remember being four, five years old, and I'm like, Found out you could get an agent and do it professionally. I just started begging my parents, Take me to auditions. Take me to auditions. It was very strange. I used to imitate my parents' crazy friends that would come over to the house and do imitations with them all day and play characters. I was like, You could do this for a job? I don't need to go be an accountant or a travel agent. I can actually do this for a job. I was the pusher. I was the stage child. They have stage parents. They that are like, You have to go to this, go to this. I was like, Mom, get me to audition, drive me there now.

You knew.

I knew. I was like, I got to get out of this neighborhood.

I got to go. I love it.

I guess for me, I came into acting a little bit later. I came to acting when I was a freshman in college. I remember seeing Raging Bull, and I grew up in San Juan, Puerto Rico. It just reminded me of people I knew, the Italians, the Latin thing. That movie really is just like De Niro, and Petty, and Cathy Moriart. I mean, everybody in it. It was so incredible, that movie.

Mine was East of Eden, I think. I saw that very young.

Rocky was also like, I remember seeing Rocky and doing the egg thing.

Oh, yeah? Yeah.

I was maybe 10 or 9, just doing the egg thing and puking.

Notnot as good as Rocky. Not as good.

Not as good.

Leo, once and for all, we got to know, who's your team? Who are we room for? We got all these pictures. We got all the hats. The multiple sports. Is there a specific one we're going for?

It's funny. Absolutely not. I got no team.

No loyalty.

No loyalty to anything. I'm a Lakers fan. That's absolutely what I could say. But the hats always just were like, Oh, that's a cool symbol. That's a dope hat. I just started doing that my whole life. I don't know. Different college teams, different football teams, different... Not a lot of different basketball teams.

Do you have some favorite ones? Because I'm the same way. Like, Oakland athletics, the hat, I just love the way it looks. It's just so awesome. Seattle Supersonics, like that. Jersey and color combo. I used to love that one. What's your favorite you're going with, you think?

I don't know. I like the KC one. I like the Raiders hat. I like the Raiders hat back in the day, but now I just wear LA.

There you Yeah. Can't go wrong.

But you had a Bulls hat on.

I had a Bulls hat on the other day.

Like a classic, like an old-school Bulls? Old-school Bulls, yeah. That's what I'm talking about. I'm all about the old vintage flat brims from the '90s. Any '90s hockey, basketball or baseball logo, I'm all in on it, man.

Kansas City is a good one.

Yeah, Kansas City.

Yeah, that's a good one.

They're not changing that thing anytime soon.

No, I have a vintage one from the '80s Kansas City. Yeah, football.

Oh, it's cool.

Come on out to Arrowhead.

Yeah, I love to. Can you see how come along out, baby?

I love to, yes.

Get this thing rocking for you, brother. Let's go. What's the best note a director has ever given you guys?

I guess I had a director. I think it was Oliver Stone once. I was doing a scene, and he comes up to me and he goes, Penetrate.

Penetrate?

Yeah, you're staying on the three-point line. Penetrate. Bring it in. Get in there. Yeah. I thought that was cool.

Got to get into the paint, baby. Yeah, get into the paint, draw a foul.

Get dirty, baby.

Yeah, I think when we're talking about, I guess I told a whole bunch of negative, Oh, wow moments, right? No, no. My big, Oh, wow moment was being able to do a film with De Niro called This Boy's Life. I was 16 years old. That was like, I can't believe I'm on set. Coming from television, doing this great show called Growing Pains. But then, damn, you're on a set with Robert De Niro. The seriousness, the focus, just the way I remember walking, the whole set went quiet. I'm like, What's everyone so nervous about? I'm like, Jesus Christ, let's joke around here. Then to watch this guy's focus. I remember I had a scene with him where I needed to step up, and I remember the director saying, Watch him. He goes, Pain is temporary, film is forever. Pain is temporary, film is forever. I was like, Got it. That was the note that hit me the hardest.

Leo, I got to ask one of my favorite movies of all time. You've been asked this a thousand times, but I got to ask. One of my favorite movies of all time is Shether Island.

Oh, cool.

Does he know? Does he know what's happening at the end?

I think Scorsese wanted that to be open-ended.

To be open-ended.

I got my answer. I got my answer. I'll tell you what my answer is. My answer is he couldn't deal with the pain of what had happened to him, and he decides to go in and end the pain. He couldn't deal with it.

He has that look back at the end of it where it's like, Yeah, he knows what's happening.

That was my answer. But these directors don't like to keep it obscure.

Speaking of open course, we got one last question for you guys. We get asked all the time. Jason was a former linebacker turned offensive center. I was a ex-quarterback turned tight-end. We get asked all the time what it would have been like if we would have switched positions or if we didn't switch positions. We wanted to ask you guys if you could act in one role that the other person had started, who would you want to be, you think? Damn.

That's a good question.

Yeah.

I mean, Sicario was… That would have been a cool thing to do. Traffic was amazing, but Sicario, that guy was Vegas. I like to watch that.

Kill him in front of his family.

That shit, that asshole.

I would say Wolf of Wall Street. There we go.

Good answer. That's what it looks like, man. Good answer. He's part of the It's finally came out. That's amazing.

Dudes, thank you so much for this. This was a fucking blast, man. Thank you for your time. Thank you. Thank you guys for blessing us with this movie. This movie is so badass. Cannot wait to see how the world reacts to this thing.

Thank you guys for the time. I'm going to go see in the theaters, too. You got to tell me to go see in the theaters, man.

In theaters, don't wait for this thing to come out and watch it from your living room. Get the true experience this Friday, September 26. Check it right now. One battle after another. Leonardo DiCaprio, Benicio Del Toro. Thank you so much, guys. You guys are the best. Thank you, guys. That was amazing. Thank you. Thank you to Leonardo DiCaprio, Benicio DelTuro. One battle after another is now in theaters this Friday, September 26.

Go to the theaters and see it. I'm telling you, you I'm not going to be disappointed. Lenny Williams and Benny Del, baby.

Benny Dale and Lenny Williams. We watched it not in the theaters, just to get a little preview for it. But you go watch in the theaters. Come on, support the movies. Support your local theater.

Hell, yeah, man. It's the best, dude.

Get some popcorn of milk dust. Get some cavities. Where are you going to get cavities if you don't go to the movie theater? What are we doing? That wraps up another episode of New Heights. Thank you to our guests, Leonardo DiCaprio and Benicio Del Toro. Yes, sir. Okay. Lenny Williams and Benny Del. That's so good. Make sure you subscribe to the New Heights channel on YouTube and follow New Heights on the WNDYR app or wherever you get your podcast. You can listen to the new episode of The New Heights early and after right now, but join the WNDYR Plus on the WNDYR app or on that podcast.

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Yeah, baby.

Are you freaking out? You're freaking out. I don't know what it is. Those guys were fucking amazing. They're cool, man. I fucking love cool people. They thought you were cool. They said we were cool. They said no. They said it. I think they're just pros. I think they're just pros. They do that every single time. No, no, no. Take the compliment. They get good reviews. They get, Oh, if we say they're cool, they're going to be like, Oh, my God, I thought it was cool. But they're going to like us, but they don't know that I already love them.

They didn't know that. I was talking to a incredible actors that I have no business talking to.

No fucking business.

I just feel like every time I'm interviewing somebody like Leo or Brad or. What makes a good actor? Yeah, I just feel like Chris Farley in those SNL scenes where I'm like, So remember? And I want to bring up all of these career achievements while we're talking to them. We're also trying to be... I mean, the movie that's coming out Friday is going to be spectacular. But I also want to ask about all these other movies and things, and it's like, How do I do this without sounding just like the biggest fanboy of all time?

Dude, it's difficult. Sometimes you just got a fanboy it up, man.

The town of Agde in France is famous for sun, sand, sea, and sex. But lately, life on the Coast has taken a strange turn. The town's mayor, a respected pillar of the community, has been arrested for corruption.

His wife claims he's been bewitched by a beautiful clairvoyant.

Then there's the mysterious phone calls that local people have been getting. I am the Archangel Michael. The whole town has been thrown into chaos.

As the mayor is unable to carry out his duties, I would like to address you all.

Legal proceedings have been initiated.

Join me, Anna Richardson, and journalist Leo Chic for The Mystic and the Mayor, as we investigate a story of power, corruption, and magic. Binge all episodes of The Mystic and the Mayor exclusively and ad-free right now on WNDYRI Plus. Start your free trial in Apple podcast, Spotify, or the WNDYRI app.