Transcript of No One’s Healed: The Truth About Purpose from Jess Hilarious

Life is always lifing. As long as you live life, there will be things thrown at you. There will be trials. There will be tribulations. There will be obstacles that you have to overcome. Some you will, some you won't. It's all about your level of resilience and endurance. Everybody goes through something when they are being challenged as a parent, just as a caregiver, just a guardian. You don't even have to be a parent. You can be somebody who watches over someone's kid. I don't get it right every day. That's why I do have a village. I thank God for my my parents, my husband, my son's father, my mother-in-law, my father-in-law. Like, it's a village. It really takes a village. None of this is easy. We make so much of so little. It can be such a minuscule issue, and we overthink and we amplify it in our mind, just overthinking, creating scenarios, and just going down these rabbit holes. And it's like, yo, just breathe. Stop and breathe. There's no manual to it. And every journey is different. Like I always express, like, it is different, but we all do what we got to do.

There's an instinct that kicks in and we got it.

You're listening to Mick Unplugged, hosted by the one and only Mick Hunt. This is where purpose meets power and stories spark transformation. Mick takes you beyond the motivation and into meaning, helping you discover your because and becoming unstoppable. I'm Rudy Rush, And trust me, you're in the right place. Let's get unplugged.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another exciting episode of Mick Unplugged. And today I'm truly honored to be with someone you've known for a long time, from skits to The Breakfast Club. But I know her as a bestselling author, and we're going all in today on Baltimore's finest. Miss Jess Hilarious. Jess, how you doing today, dear?

I'm good, Mick. Thank you for that introduction. That was nice. I like that.

You heard me say Baltimore, right?

Baltimore all day without the T. Don't put the T in there.

I got it down. Yes. So Jess, I was just telling you how proud I am of you for this book, and we're gonna go places with that book. But you know, I always like to ask my guests about their because, that thing that's deeper than their why. I call it like your true purpose, your true mission. So if I were to say, Jess, today in 2026, what's your because? Why do you keep doing the things that you do?

Oh, man. For one, you know, the obvious reason, my children, you know. And then legacy is very important. It's very important. I saw a clip of Mike Tyson one day. He was talking to a young reporter, and they asked him about his legacy, and he just like His whole aura changed. And he was like, what is legacy? Legacy is stupid. That's just like, you know— And I just— I was like, no, no. Legacy is very important. Obviously, there were things there, you know, that hurt him. I don't know what that was about. But that was the first time I ever heard of legacy spoken of in a way that was against everything that I had ever known it to be. And I was like, oh my God, no. So my heart shattered for him. Like, legacy is one of the most important things to ever leave behind. That's why it's important to have children, in my opinion. It's like, what are you doing all this for? It has to be for a reason. You know? And that's why I wanted to share a piece of literature, you know, such as my co-parenting memoir, "So Deftly We Parent," because parenting is so linear.

Like, it's different for everybody, but it's an ongoing thing. It's something that will never end. Relationships end, friendships, contracts, you know, everything has an ending except— parenting, you know? And, um, that's very important, very important. And every journey looks different, but I believe that we can all get the same outcome, you know, just with communication. And that's, that's really showing up for your kid no matter what the other parent has put you through. So that's the main reason why I wanted to— that's my main reason why.

There we go, there we go. Yeah, I love it. And we're gonna get into a lot of the book And I have a bunch of notes because I made my kids read this book from the viewpoint of this, because I call them my kids, but, you know, they're in their 20s now, right?

Adults, yeah.

And they're going to be parents and are parents. And so understanding that something that I thought was really dynamic in the book was, you know, you talk about you and Rome, and Rome's in the book as well too. And it's just like, at some point you had to realize we aren't gonna make it. That's right. And I think a lot of times people, you talk about relationships, you talk about friendships, like I've had to kick people outta my circle once I realized we ain't gonna make it. No. But there's a greater purpose that we need to unite for. And that's where I wanted to give you kudos because I think a lot of times people miss that and then there becomes hatred for the other person.

Right?

Because it's like, well, we're not going to make it. Well, let's just not do anything. And then the kid goes and sees all that. You talk about the energy that kids read and that they see. I mean, talk about that for the audience, for the viewers and listeners.

It's very true. It's very, very true. That's why it's very important to have, you know, a hap— and OK, so you don't want to conflate the two because happiness, I always have to— People always get mad at me when I say, it's not about being happy. It's about having joy, right? Because there's a huge difference, you know? Like, happiness, you know, that's an emotion. And that can change in 10 seconds. You know what I mean? Joy is something that you wear, something that you feel. When you find joy, that takes healing to find joy. That takes self-awareness to find joy, self-love. It takes a lot of growing up to do to even— to have that once you've lived through so much trauma. And that speaks to forming a healthy bond between parent and child because your child only absorbs what you put out. You are your child's first teacher. So it's very important to be happy and joyous. Happy is amazing, but you— when you have emotions, right, and you're operating from a bitter place, if you and the other parent are not doing good, or, you know, y'all are facing adversities in your relationship or whatever, and it has nothing to do with the child, and you start to notice different patterns in your children because you are walking around bitter, upset with these emotions, and holding on to just all this bitterness and energy And then you're projecting that onto your child subconsciously because you're not doing it on purpose.

Most of us don't do it on purpose. But then you start to see a change in the behavior. And you're like, where is this coming from? Why is he starting to act up? Little Timmy is in school now becoming a problem. He's being oppositional. He's being defiant. Because he is absorbing your energy. And now he's regurgitating it back to you, or back wherever. Wherever they are. That's why it's very important to have a grip on your mental health as a parent. Parenting is one of the hardest things. It's the most challenging thing you could ever do. But it's complex, and it's complicated, but it's beautiful, you know? Because it's life. Like, you're having your own people, you know? You're able to train your people up, you know? Train your little— it's a village that you're creating. Your offspring is always supposed to be better than you are. So that's why your mental space, you just have to be in a great mental space to raise your children.

I truly believe that. And you know, you talked about legacy. And there's some moments in the book that, to me, were like, holy shit. Like, Jess was vulnerable and said that. And I'd be remiss, by the way, I've held up the book, but— Til Death Do We Parent. Definitely go get it wherever you buy books from. Go get it literally right now. You talk about the breakdown moment, right?

Oh man. Yeah.

Like you talk about being miserable and being broke, right? And you feel like Rome's out there living his best life and you're just like, why am I doing this? Like, like why? Take us to that moment. Like what is that really like? Because a lot of people, while they may feel it, they don't talk about it and accept that it's a real feeling. And I give you kudos for accepting that it's a real feeling.

Yeah. It's definitely a real feeling. And a lot of women go through it. A lot of young moms go through it. Even fathers, I'm sure, go through it. But being the mom, being the person that has to be the primary caretaker and, you know, the nurturer and the baby's— They come from us. They feed on us for 9 months, and then they're forever connected to us. That was a very hard thing to write about because I did not have an emotional connection to my son until he was 6 months. I just did not— I didn't even know if I wanted to put that in the book because I was most nervous that my son would feel a certain way. That's why I had to have the conversation before the final— the final script was published. Because I'm like, no, I don't want him to— kids are cruel. He is on his way to high school. He has a group of friends. God, I hear them talk. I be like, ooh, gosh. I wasn't saying those. That's not how I talked to my friends when I was 14. You know what I'm saying? And the last thing I want or wanted was him to hear that part from someone else.

And my son is an avid reader, loves reading. He read the book already. But I wanted to, before he sat down and read that, and could say, my mom didn't even have the decency to tell me how she felt. I'm old enough to understand somewhat. And that's what— that's also what I was afraid of as well, whether or not he was old enough for me to even have that conversation. But I still wanted to provide that scene and paint that picture which was a beautiful moment as it relates to a connection that was birthed 6 months after his physical birth, you know, after me giving birth to him. I connected with him on such a level that I don't regret my feelings. I don't wish I could have done it different. I don't, because what I felt in that moment was like a telepathic message. It was like— it was like— No, I am your mother. And from him, it was like, I'm your son. You're going to get this together. You're going to— listen, you laid down and made me. And now you in here having a little spiral moment. And because my father's out there living his life, you chose to have me.

You're going to have to take care of me, whether he is here with you or not. I swear it was those words. And he was just smiling at me while I'm crying and breaking down, like, why did you choose me as your mother? And I swear he looked at me like, Girl, I didn't choose you. I didn't even choose this life. Like, I didn't choose to be born. You know? So at that moment, I picked him up. And that's when I connected with him emotionally and mentally. And it was just like, from there, oh my God. He went from being the baby to my son Ashton, my baby, my pride and joy, my responsibility. And it's been that way ever since.

Yeah, I love it because that was the moment that I was reading the book that I picked up the phone, I called my youngest and I said, "Hey, I'm sending you a book right now. I'm ordering on Amazon. It'll be there tomorrow." He's like, "What's the book?" And so I start telling him the title and he's like, "Dad, I don't have kids." Right, right. There's a moment in this book that I need you to understand 'cause you talk about Ashton looking at you and like, pretty much saying, get your life together. Right. 'Cause we gotta move on, right?

Right, I'm hungry. He pampers well.

Right. My youngest son, we had a moment like that where he was just like, hey dad, I know you say that all this is going on, but can we go get some cereal though?

Like, yo, I don't—

That was you.

My problems ain't your problems, bro. Like, you know what I mean?

But as a parent, that makes you understand the beauty of we put so much pressure on ourselves that sometimes—

Talk about it.

—you're just trying to eat some cereal.

You know what I'm saying? Right, right. It's like we make so much of so little. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it can be such a minuscule issue, and we overthink, and we amplify it in our mind, just overthinking, creating scenarios, and just going down these rabbit holes. And it's like, yo, just— Breathe. Stop and breathe. You know, there's no manual to it. And every journey is different, like I always express. Like, it's different, but we all do what we gotta do. There's an instinct that kicks in and we got it.

Yep. Yep. Another thing I love that you wrote in the book, and then you also talk about it on social media, you talk about it in a lot of interviews, and I like to segue to my segment I call the Unplugged Truth. And you have the most real truth ever. You say, I don't care what it looks like, I still don't get it right every day. Yeah. And I think people need to understand that because I believe exactly what you— I tell people, someone that appears to be perfect, just run away because whatever they're about to tell you, whatever advice they're about to give you, it ain't real. Because the people I listen to, don't get something right every day. And that's what I appreciate.

Yeah. And exactly what you said. Like, that leaves me so speechless because, yeah, the people that you think— like, that you looking at like, I know that person got it all together. I know every day is just sunshine and rainbows for them. I know that their kids don't have problems. I know that— nah, you don't know. You don't know. Everybody goes through. Something when they are being challenged as a parent, just as a caregiver, as, you know, just a guardian. You don't even have to be a parent. You know what I mean? You could be a guardian. You can be somebody who watches over someone's kid. You know what I mean? I don't get it right every day. That's why I do have a village. I thank God for my parents, my husband, my son's father, my mother-in-law, my father-in-law. Like, it's a village. It really takes a village. None of this is easy. No, not at all.

Not at all. And another truth that you have that's also in the book, and I think this one stopped me in my tracks too, because again, you're very vulnerable, which I appreciate in the book. Yeah. You talk about you not wanting to tell Rome, right? Like when you first found out you were pregnant and you were— not that you didn't want to tell him, you were just scared.

I was scared.

And I think a lot of times a truth that we need to understand is It's OK to have the emotion of fear. It's just not OK to let it run you, right? And again, I applaud you for that vulnerability and that conversation. Like, walk us through that moment.

Man, I'm— listen, Mick, I could sit here and talk to you all day because that is literally the epitome of what the feeling was. It's like, yo, y'all do not understand the amount of fear. I was like— Ugh. So I'm in the house by myself. Now, I'm in Rome's house. And he went to go play basketball. And I'm 19. And I'm, like, looking at this test. And I'm like, oh my God. It says positive. And you know how you already know something, but it's nothing like that confirmation, that moment of clarity where it's like, boom. Oh, no. This shit is real. Like, oh. It was positive. And I knew, but I really knew in that moment. And I was like, damn, not only do I have to tell Rome, who I think I'm going to scare away, I have to tell my parents, who don't even know I'm dating. They don't even know where I am right now. They think I'm somewhere else. Wow. The amount— oh my God. The amount of paranoia and just anxiety. It was like I could have really, really had a heart attack in that moment. And then he walks through the door.

And I walk down the steps. And we're making eye contact. And he's like, what's wrong? Because I look worried. I'm trying to look good. I'm trying to be cool and get my nerves all together. And he's like, what's in your hand? And I just drop it. He picks it up. He's like— You're pregnant. I'm like, yeah. He's like, oh my God, we're going to be a family. And I'm like, OK, not what I expected. OK, so I did— I'm not going to lie. I felt better. But that was very short-lived because I still knew we're not ready for this. We're not ready. You know? I'm over the first hump of Jerome not running for the hills, not saying, oh, well, look, you're going to have to take care of that. You on your own. You know what I mean? Because that's what I expected. And I think I was so scared in that moment that I wanted him to say that. Now, as an adult, just looking back, I think I was so afraid to have this baby and, you know, and just thinking about my life and how much it would slow down and almost stop.

You know, I'm not even out of my parents' house yet. You know, I haven't even been knowing Rome this long. I think I'm in love. You know, but I think I was so afraid that I wanted him to react that way just to have a reason to get rid of my child. And when he reacted the other way around, I felt a relief. But then I was even more afraid because I'm like, damn. Now if I do get rid of the baby, if I do schedule this appointment to get an abortion, now I'm gonna hurt his heart. I'm gonna hurt him.

Well, thank God you did it. Yeah, thank God. Every day I thank God. The other part though, so you tell Rome, that's cool. You got to go home and tell Mama now.

God, crazy. Born and raised in the church, two strict parents. Well, my dad was more lenient, but my mom was the one that's like, oh, she was stern. And she— oh my God, very nurturing, affectionate, and loving. Love her, my angel. But still, coming up, mm-mm. That lady, we ain't play with her. We ain't play with my daddy, the former Marine, and just all the structure. And we had rules, oh my God, from A to Z back to A. It was crazy. So I'm over there, and I asked Rome to go with me. I was like, I don't want to tell them by myself. Can you go with me? And he goes, yeah, let's tell them today. I was like, damn, you trying to get me killed? I just told you. Let me get a second. Give me 24 hours, something. You know? And he's like, no, I think we should get it out the way because I want to, like, start telling my friends and family. He was so excited. He was on such a high. I was like, OK, all right, let's do it. The sooner the better anyway. We go over to my mom's house— you know, to my house.

My dad answers the door. That's not who I want to see right away. I'm like, ooh, why couldn't my mother answer the door? And so he's not even like, come in. He's just like, who is this? And Rome is behind me. He's trying to look. Behind me like, who you bringing to my house 8:30 at night? I'm like, oh, because we had to catch the bus. I'm sorry. So we go in the kitchen. You know how that saying, a mother knows? Honey, she knew something was up. She knew before I even said it out of my mouth. Like, just a look that she gave me is like, I know something is up. First of all, you're not bringing no little knucklehead to our house this late at night. For nothing.

This ain't the prom no more.

No. Yeah, you way past that. What's going on? You done graduated. What's up? So, whoo, I tell her, this is my boyfriend. And I'm pregnant. Her and my father, they're puzzled for a minute. My father needs to go out in the backyard to get some air. He was so, like, taken aback, but just disappointed and just frustrated. Like, damn, we didn't even know you were dating. Not that we'd say that you couldn't, but we didn't even know. And you just— now you pregnant too? Like, what is hap— when did you have time for— they're questioning themselves. Like, what the hell? Like, how do we not see or know or even think about this with her right now? And my mother, I remember her just walking around because she was finishing, like, dishes or something like that. I remember her walking around. And as she put her right hand on my back and put her left hand on Jerome's back, and she began to pray, and I just burst out in tears. Like, I just— I could not control myself because a part of me was just like, I know I can't do this. I know I can't.

I know I can't. But this boy is so happy. And he lost his mother. And I know he looks at this as a sign from his mother, like, giving him a child. And it's just— I just— I could not break his heart. And then my mother told me before I went to bed that night, she was like, listen, this is ultimately your decision. You need to think long and hard about the decision that you are about to have to make. And you can't wait too long to make it. This will change your life. No, your life won't stop. But it will be much more complicated than you thought it would be at 19. So you better figure out what it is that you want to do. To be successful because you don't plan on going to college. You don't have a job right now. You don't even know what you want to do, what industry you want to catapult yourself into for work. You don't— I haven't even— you don't know. You're still a baby yourself. So think, and think wise, and think hard. And I knew what she was trying to tell me. Like, and it wasn't— you need to get an abortion.

It was, think about yourself, your life. Because she knew that I was thinking about Rome more than myself. You know? So yeah, that was hard too.

That motherly wisdom right there. Mm-hmm. Yes. And now I guess you got it now too, right? I do. I do. Yep. I know in the book, and you've talked before about, How your mom was preparing you all your life to be a mom and how that was very special. And I love hearing you say that too. I'm going to go to my next segment. I call it Hot Takes. And you get to live Hot Takes every day. Right? That's what you do for a living. That's true. That's what you do for a living. So I'm going to give you a Jessica Moore, not even a Jess Hilarious. I'm going to give you a Jessica Moore Hot Take.

Okay, now look, I done got married, so Jessica Moore-Taliver. That one? Yes, that one. Yes, Jessica Moore-Taliver. Now the Moore is still Moore now, but you know, I just, I added my husband's last name. Yes, let's go.

Yes, I'm gonna give you this one. You've said it before, but no one is fully healed. There's a lot of us carrying scars, and, and sometimes you, we gotta accept and see that. Yeah. Right? Like, we got to accept and see the scars that other people have. You know, we talked earlier about no one's perfect, no one's got it together. But no one's also fully healed.

Talk to us about that a little bit. Well, life is always lifin', no matter what. So if you're walking around and you're telling somebody, or if you hear someone say, oh, no, I'm fully healed. I'm good. Ain't nothing— you know, not that I'm trying to force problems on people, not that I think there's something wrong with everybody. Life is always lifing. As long as you live life, there will be things thrown at you. There will be trials. There will be tribulations. There will be obstacles that you have to overcome. Some you will, some you won't. You know, it's all about your level of resilience and endurance, right? But healing is doing the work, recognizing trauma, recognizing baggage, recognizing— that you aren't perfect, and there are some things that you may have to work on, you know, when you recognize those things, you work. You work to assess them properly. You work on how to navigate through conversations. Some— you'd be so surprised how many people can't have a conversation because it's complicated or because it brings a level of discomfort that one is not yet to sit through. You know, people are not yet ready to face conflict or have a mirror turned on themselves.

Healing is, like I said, very linear. It can go one way. It can go a million ways, and it can take forever to heal. But you can heal from something, but then something else happens. You're still living as you're healing. So you're never going to be fully healed from everything. But a work in progress is what you are. A fully healed person is a perfect person. And there are no perfect people. They don't exist. No, they don't exist. Richer, poorer, whatever. Right. You're going to go through— listen, healing is needed for everybody.

Absolutely. Absolutely. Here's my other hot take. And you can't come through the screen on me, so we're going to have to keep doing this virtual. So I've been in a couple of— I'm going to say fights, altercations in my life. I've been in two almost altercations, and both of those were in Baltimore. Oh, man. Because somebody called me a dummy. And I said, what in the world? I did not know at the time that that was a term of endearment in your city. Yes. Where did that come from? Like, when did just dummy just become cool? Like, I was like—

You know what's crazy? I started hearing it when I was about 11 years old. I was 11. That's when it was started to being— it would— they started using it real heavy as a term of endearment. Because let my father and my mother say, they never said that shit to none of them. They listen. The older people, they— I wish the hell one of y'all would— that came up with my generation. I was in elementary school on my way to middle school when I started hearing that real, real heavy. And my peers, and we all used it in a few generations thereafter, but they don't say it no more like they used to. My generation still walking around, we in our 30s, we still dummy, what's up? You know, even our mayor, Baltimore, Baltimore Mayor Brandon Scott, dummy, what's up? I'm so sorry that you had to, that you had to get into a fight, but that, that really means you smart.

I, I almost did. Luckily the crab cakes were good.

That's all I'm gonna say. Listen, that's another, uh, that's another, that's our, our, uh, our endearment dish. There you go. Yeah, that's right.

That's, that's about how it went down. And I was like, I'm not from around here. That's right. You thought I was from, but it is not here. I got one more dummy left.

I used to think of that all the time. I used to be like, why do we say it to people who are not from here? That it's so offensive to other people who aren't a part of this Baltimore culture. But it should be from Baltimoreans to Baltimoreans. It should not be from Baltimoreans to tourists. It should not be. No, no, not at all.

Not at all. All right, Jess, my last segment or second to last segment. Yeah. I call it The Room. You've had and will continue to have an illustrious career, right? You've done things that most people, and I'm just gonna say it, that look like you don't get to have, that look like us that don't get to have. Like you have earned every room you have ever been in.

So I'm giving you your flowers for that. Thank you.

Talk about the one room, whether it was a meeting, a dinner, a lunch, whatever it was. What was the one room that truly changed your life when you knew this is it, this is what I'm doing?

Hmm. The one room. Well, the one room that started it all was, um, Wells Fargo Arena. And that's what it was. Um, Wells Fargo Arena in Baltimore City, 2016, on the stage performing in front of 13,000 people, opening for Martin Lawrence, I knew this is where I belong. This is what I'm going to do. This is what I want to do is be a stand-up comedian in my own city. Got a standing ovation after a 10-minute set. My third, fourth time on stage maybe was opening up in front of Martin Lawrence, you know, for Martin Lawrence in front of 13,000 Baltimoreans in my city.

I don't even think people realize if you're watching this, if you're listening to this, that like your first open mic, like people had to tell you to go do it, right?

Like you were like, nah. I was scared as hell. I was like, nah, I'm used to making my videos behind the phone. Phone and nothing, you know, if people in your face, they can't— you can't delete, go back, edit, delete, then do something to repost. No, you got to make them people laugh. They in your face. Ain't no edit, come back, cut, none of that. Yeah. And I did it. And from then on, I've been doing it. Yes. Yeah.

Yes, you have. And that's another thing I want to give you flowers for. Thank you. Because you know, starting in that era of the social media comic, right? And a lot of people to this day get labeled that and they can't adjust because it's different. It is. And I'm not, I'm not talking about it in a bad way. It's just, it's different to, to be live and to feel the energy. Because to your point, like when it's you on the phone or you in a skit, like you can perfect it as much as you want to. Yeah. Right. Yeah. But somebody sitting in front of you and I, I'd never understand this. Go to a comedy show and you got people that are just sitting there like this.

It's like you paid money to be here. Like, why didn't you— why didn't Why did you even come? Like, yeah, you know, why did you even come in here? But so yeah, doing comedy is one of the hardest. I hear people say it's one of the hardest things to do. It's just in me. I've always been funny. I've always been able to make a stiff room laugh. I make shoulders go down, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't— and then I make them bounce because the people be laughing, honey. I'm telling you. Absolutely.

Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, everybody, again, given Jess's shameless plug, uh, jesshilarious.com. Like, you can go see where she's going to be. Yes. Uh, she has her tour up there. You can get her book there. Um, again, wherever you can get the book— this book is the greatest— wherever you can get it, go get it. I don't care if it's Amazon, Books-A-Million, Barnes Noble, your local bookstore. Go get it. Um, my job is to make this a New York Times bestseller. Oh. Week after week after week after week after week.

I love your job. That's what I'm here for, Jess. I love your job.

That's my only job. Thank you. That's all I got. That's all I got. Jess, you've been gracious. I'm gonna get you outta here with this rapid-fire top 5 quick 5. Okay. Ready? Mm-hmm. What's been your favorite stage?

Baltimore, Maryland. The Lyric Opera House in Baltimore, Maryland. Okay. Okay. No, I'm sorry. No, no. The Hippodrome in Baltimore, Maryland. The Hippodrome in Baltimore, Maryland. Oh, can I do another one?

Oh, it's your show.

Okay. The Hippodrome in Baltimore, Maryland, and also MGM Casino in DC, Oxon Hill. Yes. My two favorite. That's DMV right there. That's Baltimore and DC. They my people. There you go. Yes. Yes.

Combining the worlds together. I love it. I love it. You've had a long day. You're on set with Knuckleheads all day. You're giving us truth all day. When you've had a long day and it's time to have that meal, what's Jess eating?

Ooh. Burrito tacos. OK. OK. Yes, burrito tacos. Yes. Whether I make them, my husband make them, or we ordering them, everybody can cook in this house. So yes. Okay.

All right, Baltimore. She didn't say crab cakes.

Y'all heard that. No, I didn't. I didn't.

She been giving y'all love. She said burrito tacos. Burrito tacos.

I live in New York. Ain't no damn crabs up here. Shoot. All right.

So Breakfast Club, a lot of love. Been rocking with y'all all my life. Who's the most boring person on the show? Hmm.

Everybody who does front page news. Anybody who does front page news. Just because politics is boring to me. Very good. Yeah, no shot to the person, but front page news, honey, I be like sleep. And it be 6 o'clock in the morning. I be like, what? Trump? Oh gosh. That's it.

But they know they boring. Shoot. There it is. All right. Charlamagne, obviously from South Carolina, from the Lowcountry. I'm from South Carolina, from the Upstate. Who's your favorite person from South Carolina, Jess?

Charlamagne tha God. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's my guy.

It's all right. He's mine too. Yeah, that's my guy. I wouldn't have liked it if you said me.

You know? And then also, that's my big brother, man. Like, that's just mentorship. For sure. That's— oh my God, that's the person who will give it to me straight. That's the person that's, sit your ass down in the corner. You know what you did, and I don't feel sorry for you. Go sit your ass down. Like, that is a real big brother.

Exactly. But I always got your back.

Always got my back. Always got my back. He kick it in, then he always— then he put a Band-Aid on it.

There it is. Yeah. There it is. Last one. As the story of your legacy unfolds, What's one word that you want to make sure defines your legacy?

Resilience. Mm. Resilience. I can get through anything. I have gotten through everything, and still more to come. I'm still— listen, I invite the obstacles. I love a challenge, but like even unwanted. Challenges and, you know, unforeseen controversies or just what— anything, I have gotten through it. You know, my level of endurance and resilience is immaculate to me. Yeah, man. Yeah. And that's because I'm a good person. And I have a heart of gold. I am a person and I'm real. And you're only gonna always get What you see? Jessica Robin Moore. Taliber. Taliber. You got it. Absolutely.

Absolutely. Hey, everybody, do me a favor. A couple of favors. One, go follow Jess everywhere. Google her. You'll get all her social handles, but I'll make sure that they're in all the show notes in the descriptions here. Do me a huge favor. Go get this book. Um, I can't tell you enough how if you're a parent, you need this. If you want to be able to hear an amazing story through parenting, you need this book. I love this book so much, Jess. I'm gonna do this. Okay. On Instagram, the first 20 people that message me parent, I am going to send you a copy of the book. Oh wow. And then do Jess and I a favor. When you get the copy, Take a picture, tag Jess, and tell her something amazing that you found out in the book. Right? Like, we need this book. It's already going viral, but we need to take it to the stratosphere. This will be a New York Times bestseller in 2026 because of this community and Jess. Thank you, Mick. Go get it. Go get it. Go get it. Thank you, Mick. Love you from my core. I love you too.

Appreciate who you are. Just all the amazing things that you were doing and the blueprint that you are. I can't thank you enough.

Thank you, Mick. I appreciate you, love.

You got it. And to all the viewers and listeners, remember, your because is your superpower. Go unleash it.

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