Transcript of Block the BS: Mastering Peace and Purpose with Wallo267

I started committing crimes because I wanted to be accepted by some people that I thought was cool, that was followers themselves. So we all just followers in this big following pool, and we all trying to impress each other, and we don't even know what we doing, but we're willing to risk our lives to be accepted by some people that don't even accept theirself.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another exciting episode of Mick Unplugged, and today, I'm sitting down with the certified beast. I'm talking about someone who's changed my life through his words, and to now meet him in person, the energy that he has, I know why every rapper is in his DMs, every business person is in his DMs. He is none other than the king himself, Mr. Wallo267.

Mick, I just wanna let you know, man, listen, same thing you say about me, I can say about you, great things. You are, Legendary speaker, top, no, globally in the world, top podcaster. He went in the top 10, you know what I mean? You that guy.

Yeah.

So I'm just thankful that you even allow me to be a part of your platform, you know?

Man, I'm the honored one. Like I was telling you when I got here, man, like when my team said, "Wallo wants you," I said, "Me?" Damn. I gotta go to him.

I appreciate that, man.

And you bless me to be here in the studio Wearing airplanes and hotels.

Appreciate that. Yes.

The gear, the swag.

They feel comfortable, ain't they?

These might be the best shoes on the market.

Damn, I appreciate that.

If you know, you know.

Thank you.

If you know, you know. Wallo, man, again, honored to have you, honored to be with you. You know, I start every episode asking my guest about their because, right? That thing that's deeper than your why. Simon Sinek taught us to start with why, but I believe your true purpose is your because, right? If I were to ask you, what's your why? And then I say, but why? That sentence usually starts with, well, because. And I care about that moment, that well because moment. So if I were to say, Wallo, man, like today, book coming out, you inspire so many people. What's your because? Why do you keep doing what you do?

You know, I wanted to be the help, the help that I wanted when I was in prison. I wanted to be there for other people, you know? I used to always want to push and I used to get pushed through different people, watching people on TV. Like I told you about Les, you know, Anthony Bourdain.

Mm-hmm.

And I'll be like, you know, when I become what I want for myself when I needed it the most. And that was just a push to help.

Yeah.

And I think being a push is very important out here because you, you don't know how a simple little push, you know, It don't have to be physical, but a verbal push can help somebody get through their day, can help somebody get up out of a dark spot, can help somebody get closer to materializing their dreams. It could do a lot for 'em, you know? So it was like, I just wanted to be the push. That's my because. I wanna push people the way I needed to push, the way I needed that lift, you know, just a hand.

Yeah. When did you know that that was you?

I didn't, you know what, Mick, I realized even when I was young growing up, even in the streets, I always was funny. I always try to, and sometimes the push is not just in encouragement, it's in humor, it's in all that. And I realized when I think about when I was a kid, I always was that kid that was like upbeat.

Yeah.

Always, you know what I mean? So it was like, I think I had it, but I ain't identified till I was later on in prison. You don't identify with it till later on in life. You know, so it just be like, that's how it be. It just different.

Yeah. And why is that push important to you now?

It's more important now because, you know, as you can see, a lot of things is changing in the country, a lot of rough times, and people just need it even more now.

Yes, sir.

And then social media came and social media put a lot of people in depression. A lot of people feel as though they not where they want to be in their life. So they, you know, it mess a lot of people up. So it just be like, Right now people really need that encouragement more than ever.

Absolutely. And what I love about you and that push is knowing your story, knowing your journey, and we're gonna get into the book, to this book in a moment, but your other books, man, it's like you reach everyone. There's so many cats that can talk to the younger generation, but you inspire those that have come before us 'cause we're about the same age.

Yes.

Right? You inspire those that are in our age group and you inspire those that are coming up, man. Like, not many people can do that. You talk about a Les Brown and the legacy that he's had. I look at you with that same way.

Thank you.

I look at you with that same way because doesn't matter who it is, doesn't matter where you come from, when you speak, people feel that, dude. People feel that. And I want to give you your flowers 'Cause a lot of times when we are in the zone of genius and greatness like you are, you don't understand the depth that you have. And so I want you to know the depth that you have, brother.

Appreciate you, man. Thank you, Nick.

Yeah.

Thank you so much, Nick.

So I have this, this segment that I call the Unplugged Truth. And again, knowing The books that you've written and oh, by the way, New York Times bestseller, by the way, New York Times bestselling author, by the way.

Thank you.

Thank you. TEDx speaker, by the way. We all have these beliefs, or at least I do, right? I have beliefs when I was a kid, when I was a young adult that I don't have anymore. Do you have any beliefs that you once believed in that you once fought for that now it's like, That was silly. I don't believe in that anymore.

Yeah, I believed in the streets and the street culture, the mindset. I believed that that was real until, you know, you grow and you, you know, it gets you in all these bad spots. But not just about getting in bad spots, you realize that, am I really got a belief in something that's really BS? So, you know, just coming up outta that, you know, because when you young, you wanna be down. Like, I wasn't in the streets 'cause I was just a street or this bad person. I just wanted to be down and wanted to be accepted by this idea of what cool's supposed to be. Yeah. You know, a lot of times in the inner city, cool is based off of being a criminal. And it's, that's, I think that's the craziest thing in the world. And just the fact of I'm sitting here and as I got older, I'm like, hold up, I got, I started committing crimes because I wanted to be accepted by some people that I thought was cool, that was followers themselves.

Yeah.

So we all just followers in this big following pool and we all trying to impress each other and we don't even know what we doing.

Mm-hmm.

But we are willing to risk our lives to be accepted by some people that don't even accept their self. They're still trying to find they self.

Yep. So we all out here trying to find ourself and I'm like, hold up, I wanna be cool.

Let me be a criminal.

Yeah.

Oh, so it was like, you know, I believed in that shit. And then, you know, when you, when you wake up, you realize like, hold up, what was I doing? Is I'm crazy?

Yeah.

It is hard pill to swallow, man.

And so, you know, when I told you that I look up to you and you mentor me from afar, that right there is exactly one of the lessons that I had to let go of because I used to believe that, loyalty and hanging was the right thing to always do. But then you taught me peace of mind is more important. The older you get, it's about peace and you gotta let go of certain things and sometimes certain people. I'd love for you to talk to the audience about that and why that's so important of peace.

Let me tell you something, Nick, you know this. As a grown man, Mick, if you're not on the road today, and you might get up in the morning, take your little walk, do whatever, get your sweat workout, whatever. And let me take you somewhere. You come in the house, you take that shower with Mick, your wife, or you make that sandwich. You know that sandwich I'm talking about, that nice sandwich, the bread all fluffy.

Yes, sir.

Cheese, whatever sandwich, tuna, whatever sandwich you got. Got your chips on a plate and you sitting in your chair, your favorite chair, or you go lay down. You eat that sandwich, you watching whatever. The air is blowing through the house wherever you got a window open or wherever is the AC.

Mm-hmm.

You relaxed. You get to a point in your life where it's though, nothing supersede peace. Nothing supersede a good nap. That good recharge when you go to sleep. 'Cause I'm one of them dudes that like, when I be chasing, I be trying to get up, when I'm up early, I'm trying to do as much as possible. So around like 1 or 2 o'clock, I can go to sleep. That's why I'm chasing that. I'm like, yeah, let me get, all right, I gotta go to the post office, I gotta drop this off, I gotta ship this, I gotta do this, I gotta return these emails, I gotta write this down, I gotta read this article, I gotta talk to these people on the phone, I gotta go here. I'm trying to get to that nap. That's just me. Because one thing about me is, there's one thing, I love to go to sleep around 2, 3, and then wake up 7. I could do my research, go on YouTube.

Mm-hmm.

Read something, write some stuff down in my book. I feel like I'm winning. Like to be up when everybody else going to sleep, feel like I'm winning. But just the fact of, I don't know what it is about that, I be chasing that. That just, that sleep and that peace, that soft bed, especially I might go ride the bike or I might do a run or a walk, right?

Mm-hmm.

I do a run or a walk, ride the bike. Nick, when I jump in that shower and that water hit my body and break my body down, that hot water, I be like, "Yes." All I'm thinking about is getting to that bed.

Mm.

'Cause sometimes I might drink a smoothie or juice, orange juice. I'm getting up under them, that bed, the sheet, and you get up under the sheet and the blanket, and you got the house a little cool.

Yes, sir.

I'm 47 in June. That's my life. I love that. I don't, like a lot of stuff, you know, people think, nah, when you could take your, when you done did something, you know, the feeling, it's like multiple feelings. And then people might think I'm crazy, but you know that feeling when you take your shoes off, you take your socks off and your feet just be like, ah, your feet just breathe and you just be like, It's the simple stuff as that. Simple stuff is just like, you know, just being able to wake up and go back to sleep 'cause you can.

That's something.

That's peace.

That's peace. I'm gonna have to chase naps now, man.

Man, listen.

I've never napped.

Man, listen, you get one of them, you just try it.

Okay.

Like you get one of them, you gonna feel so good when you wake up around, because now I don't know what it is. I love to work in the nighttime. Something about it.

Yeah.

Especially when I'm already charged. 'Cause I can push all the way through the night. 'Cause if I go to sleep like 2, 3, wake up 7 to 8, some stuff like that, I'm pushing, I can push all the way through the night. So if I got something to do, I can write it, get anything done I need to get done.

Yeah.

So by the morning I could just say damn, it's 4 in the morning, go back to sleep, wake back up like 7, 8, do what I need to do. You know?

Mm-hmm.

'Cause like where I'm at now, I'm more focused on, I got a lot of, you know, different projects I'm working on.

Yeah.

I'm more caught up in that than just posting on social media to be posting.

Yeah.

I'm more focused on that. So I ain't gotta, you know, always cater to that.

Yeah. No, I love that, man. Another truth you taught me was the importance of health.

Man.

Man, we've all heard, You know, health is wealth. We all know that, right? But you actually put it into play. And I, I know it wasn't meant to be comedy, but you know, you've got some really cool Instagram posts of you making spaghetti out of, out of Oodles and Noodles, right? All that stuff. Yeah. But the message behind what you're talking about though, is one, preparing for yourself.

Mm-hmm.

And two, the health benefits of just being healthy.

You know what?

Nah, and I have to thank you for that, man. Like I'm down between you and Damon John and Robert Irvine. Y'all collectively have helped me lose £47.

Oh man, that's a blessing.

I'm not rounding up yet 'cause I haven't hit 50, but y'all helped me drop 47.

You know how major that is because listen, not just health, like I shared on my page when I had a colonoscopy. I shared on my page when I was going to get, colon cancer check. I share all this stuff because I'm like, I'm like, let's make it cool to live.

Right.

Let's make it cool to stay healthy. Let's really make it cool to just, you know, and you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna try to do something for my birthday.

Okay.

Whereas though, I guess a couple hundred men that did get checked out, I'll support it. I gotta do something like that. June 25th, I'm gonna try to do something. It depends on where I'm at. I want to do something weird though, because I'm feeling like a lot of men, 'cause I didn't know this, right? But when I posted this stuff, I seen a lot of women in the comments like, "Yo, my dad, I'm sending this to my dad. You need to watch." Like, especially Black men be afraid to get checkups and stuff.

Mm-hmm. And I'm like, "Why?" Nah, we should totally do it. I'll support it. 'Cause your birthday is actually the same day as my oldest son.

See, June 21st.

Oh, I thought it was the 25th.

No, 21st.

Well, that same week.

That same week. Same week. Because I'm like, when I started posting that stuff, Mick, I'm like, hold up, people not jumping on this stuff like this? I thought people was on it. I didn't know.

Yeah, yeah.

You know, when I did the colonoscopy, man, listen, man, I had to take some stuff. I was listening. I basically lived in the bathroom. I was pooping so much, right? You know, 'cause you gotta clean out the day before.

Right, right.

So listen, I'm pooping so much, right? I go to get up and I can't even get up. Every time I get up, it's more. So when I did, I had to crawl and I had to lay on the ground. I had a blanket right there near the toilet. I was laying on the floor, it cleaned me out so much. But then when I went the next day, I was so happy 'cause I went, And you know, they gotta put a camera in you to see what's going on, right? So I lay down and the lady's like, "You ready to be asleep." So I'm like, "All right." And they gave you that, what's that thing that puts you to sleep?

Splat, I guess.

Huh?

Splat, I guess.

Yeah, whatever that is.

The laughing gas?

Okay. No, but no, this wasn't laughing. I was asleep. She's like, "You gonna be—" I went to sleep. It was done in a heartbeat. And when I talked to the doc, he's like, "You're cool, you're cool." I was like, "Wow." It was, but it felt good to walk outta there knowing that, and I shared it with everybody. But to walk outta there knowing I'm healthy, it was everything.

Yeah. So we're about to go there now, bro.

Let's do it.

'Cause I'm here about this book.

Yes. Yes to you, no to them.

That's why I'm here. That's why I'm here. And I call this one the Hot Takes. But the Hot Takes are all about yes to you, no to them. The title grabbed me first and foremost.

Mm-hmm.

And I was like, wow. And then I got into the book and for everybody that's watching, for everybody that's listening, this book is like a book of passages, man. Like you could, I was telling you, my kids, my sons, every day they open something up and it's like, I need that message today. And that's what they do. The book, number one, is well written. Uh, for those that don't have the book yet, one, go get it. But two, it's written where like there's a quote and then Wallow breaks down the quote on the next page. And every page, every section is just like that. So it's the easiest read you'll ever have. Um, but it's also very meaningful. And you have some quotes in this book, man, that one, I align with, and two, I want to get into. And the first quote that got me was "Winning ain't for everybody." Yes. And it shook me because it made me go back and look at things in my life where you talk about being that push because people like you and I, we want people to win with us.

Everybody.

Right? Like what makes you unique is that you genuinely do care about other people winning.

I want you to win.

But you said winning ain't for everybody. Everybody doesn't have the discipline. Everybody doesn't have the ethics. Everybody doesn't have that thing that they're willing to fight for. And no matter how bad you want it for somebody else, you can't give it to 'em, man. So talk to us about why winning ain't for everybody.

Because when you say you wanna win, it's a bunch of discipline that come with that. See, saying yes to yourself is harder than saying no to somebody else.

Yep.

Or saying yes to somebody else. See, when you say yes to yourself, it's a lot of work that gotta come.

Mm-hmm.

So when you say you wanna win, there's a lot of work and discipline. People don't, that's why winning ain't for everybody. People not willing to put that discipline in there, that work in. They're like, no.

Yeah.

I wanna win, but ah.

Right.

You know, I wanna be the best football player in the world, but I gotta work out, I gotta eat right, I gotta make sure I'm training, I gotta, ah, I don't wanna do that.

Right.

I wanna have the best business in the world. I gotta do this, I gotta.

Right.

Ah, I don't wanna do. Right. Winning ain't for everybody.

It's not, man. Like you've said it a billion times. I've heard Michael Jordan talk about it. I heard Steph Curry, LeBron James all say it. When you really start winning, you seek boring, right? Like you seek that monotony, that, that grind that nobody else wants to do until it becomes boring for you. And that just becomes who you are. And I don't think people understand that, man. Like, People think greatness is always about pushing yourself. That's how it starts. But then you seek, just like you seek the naps, right? Like every great person I know that's great at what they do, they actually want the boring. They, they wanna work hard till they get to that boring.

I like to be, and I like to be away from all the BS.

Right, right, right. The, the second quote that stood out to me, and it's so prevalent today. If you're watching this, I want you to pay attention. If you're listening to this, pull over, stop what you're doing because this is the most important thing in 2026. You told everybody to start your own shit.

You seen that in there, right?

Start your own shit. There's no excuses.

For what? Who, let, Mick, Mick, Mick, how about this, Mick? If you said today you wanna become a chef or you said, I'm gonna just start cooking in, I'm gonna start cooking my food and selling it. Mick, I'm not going to jump in front of you and stop you. Nobody's gonna jump in front of you in the kitchen and when you start cooking and mess your food up.

Yeah.

But you.

Yeah.

You gonna jump in front of you, you gonna stop you before you start. So if you think about it, start your own shit. Would you, would you like, what's the excuses?

There are none today. There are none. Like you can build someone else's dream.

Think about it. You definitely could build something.

Or you can complete your own.

You got a lot of dream builders out here.

Yeah.

You know, a lot of dream builders.

Yeah. Yeah. Next quote. And this one we're gonna go deep.

Go ahead.

Because this one is a, the new keynote speech. Don't buy it. Block out the bullshit is the quote. But I'm gonna give everybody that's watching what the story is. Fear is what everybody's selling. Fear is what everybody's selling. And so when Wallo says don't buy it, block out the bullshit, he's talking about fear. When you look social media, what are they selling?

Fear.

Fear. You look at TV, the newspaper, what are they selling?

Everybody's selling fear out here. That's the new hustle.

Right.

Everybody telling you the world gonna end today or world gonna start today. You're not gonna be able to, They telling you to, you gonna be, you gonna lose your home, you gonna lose your car, you gonna lose your job, you gonna lose your life. They, that's all they telling. And people love it. They keep watching that BS.

Yeah.

I don't pay attention to it.

Nah. And what's crazy, 'cause I, I'd like to think I'm really good at coaching salespeople.

Mm-hmm.

And anyone that's a student of mine or a client of mine as it relates to sales, I'm different because I teach you don't sell fear.

Mm-hmm.

And that's what this quote, like, I promise you, your next keynote should be about that because you said it's the biggest business in the world. And it made me pause and I'm like, damn, Wallo hit on something that was so simply stated, bro, that's deep.

Think about it. That's all you, the news is based off fear.

Yeah.

There's more fear sold in the news than it is positivity or encouraging energy.

Yeah.

This, this the biggest media outlet you got, the news.

Yep. Yep. And it's all fear. And then this next one, and this is what, when we talk about my boys and what they had to come to grips with was this right here. Stop befriending people who talk about their friends. Stop befriending people that talk about their friends because they're talking about you too.

Mick, Mick, I come, you know, me and you know each other. We just close by city. We go to school together, whatever, church together, whatever. You always talking about your friends. What connection do me and you really gonna have? You gonna talk about me.

Right, right.

You gonna talk about me. Think about this though. You're gonna talk about me.

Yep. Yep. And again, I learned that lesson from Kenny Anderson. Shout out to Kenny Anderson, by the way. My good friend, Chris Paradiso, they got me to evaluate my circle 2 times a year because we evolve as people and everybody in your circle doesn't share the same mission. And if they do, then you're not growing personally. Mm-hmm. Right? And that's what I look at with you on how not only have you evolved, but your circle changes. The moves that you make have to be different. And everybody that's on the ride with you isn't meant to get to that final destination in whatever season that is.

Mm-hmm.

I love for you to talk about that, man, about how your circle has changed and why it changes.

I got one even better for you. A good friend of mine who's also a brother of mine, Hiram, right? Hiram always say, you gotta audit your circle.

Yep.

Say you gotta audit your circle. And that's important. One thing about me, I keep my thing real lean and slim. I don't need a lot of people because with a lot more people, more confusion. You know what I mean? And more people, more expectations, more entitlement. People, "Oh, why you ain't come to my party? You should have came." I'm like, "I didn't want to come to your party. I don't party." Just because you're, like, I don't party. I don't care to, like. So you gotta think about that. Like, how do you, how do we figure it out to where it's though we like, I'm so focused and so locked in that I don't need to be around anybody.

Mm-hmm.

I don't need 100 friends. I don't need, like, Listen, you already got one of the biggest relationships that you gonna have is a relationship with your dreams.

Yeah.

Because at the end of the day, no matter what happened in life, nothing comes before the relationship with your dream. You could be married, you could have kids, all that's cool. But if you don't materialize your dream, you can't take care of them. Think about that. You can't take care of them.

Yeah.

And one thing that we know is people try to say, oh, don't listen. We need to materialize our dreams 'cause in order to live on this planet Earth, you need money. You need money.

Right.

And one thing about money is you gotta take care of school, you gotta take care of shelter, you gotta take care of food, you gotta take care of transportation, you gotta take care of next level education.

Yep.

You gotta take care of healthcare coverage, insurance. And one thing about money is Once you had a relationship with your dreams and you really materialize your dreams, you start making money. Like I said in the book, money give money to money.

Yes, sir.

You know, once you start getting money, it just keep, people just want to give you money.

Right.

People find ways to give you, people find ways to give you money, Mick. They find it.

Right.

Some reason. So it's like, like you gotta have a relationship with that dream and you gotta, but in order to have a true relationship with your dreams, you can't have all these people around, man. Pulling you in different directions because they a party or they know you. Ah, no, come here, come to this party, do this. No.

Right.

I can't be responsible for everybody's happiness.

That's it. That's it. And another thing you said in the book too, you know, we talked about auditing your circle and then you have a follow-up, but always protect those that help you win.

Mm-hmm.

Because winning is never a singular thing.

Yeah.

Right? Like, you know, I love boxing, right? Old school boxing. And, and you look at a Muhammad Ali, you look at a Mike Tyson, you look at an Evander Holyfield, you look at a Floyd Mayweather. Publicly, they might be the people getting the credit and the just due, but it's other people that got them there. And you talk about in the book, man, like, never forget the people that help you win. Like, those are your true people. Talk to us about the importance of that.

You gotta think about it. It's like a lot of winners are crazy. Like I look at myself like I'm crazy.

Mm-hmm.

When you look at the people that you got around, you gotta have people around that understand you're crazy and believe in you're crazy. That's why you gotta respect them people.

Yeah.

You gotta respect them people that's willing to believe in just all the madness. Even when it's, you don't see no, you don't see the end of it.

Yeah.

You can't see, you just like, oh damn, yeah, you gonna do what? You like, yeah, oh yeah, I'm gonna do that. I could do that. You like, what? How can you do? I could do it. So, so you gotta protect them people and you gotta respect them people that believe in you and help you get to, you know, to your dreams.

Yep. Yep. It's two things you said This is why I know that we're brothers from another mother.

Oh.

Because it's two things. One is in the book and one I hear you talk about all the time that my grandfather used to tell me every day of my life. And my grandfather pretty much raised me with my mom. The first one was move in silence. My grandfather used to tell me this, when everyone knows where you're going, you'll never get there.

Mm-mm.

And when everyone knows what you have, you actually have nothing.

Mm-mm.

And so I learned at a very young age, man, like, if you're trying to get something done, let the results speak.

Please.

Let the results speak. And in the book you talk about that, man, about moving and so, it's like at the very beginning of the book, and that's what, again, we're brothers from another mother because I was like, oh, I'm doing nothing else the rest of the day except reading this book.

Yeah.

Talk to people about why that's so important because I feel like people that don't accomplish what they set out to do is because they told too many people about it and they didn't have the heart to really do it anyway.

And people put bad energy on your dreams.

That's it.

Like a lot of times you be sitting there, you be thinking, people be sitting there, man, putting all type of, they be putting all type of hex on your dream. They, they, I mean, they, and sometimes it's good to just do it.

Yeah.

Like that energy you got, what do you, what, what do it matter if you tell somebody? You telling somebody what you attempting to do, just do the shit.

Exactly.

Like, do it.

Exactly. And let the results speak.

Yeah.

I don't have to tell anybody what I'm doing. Like all the amazing things. And for those that, that don't know, we're in Wallo's warehouse and in this warehouse there's merch everywhere, there's books everywhere. There's so much that he has going on that you haven't even seen yet because he's not telling anybody about it. The results speak for themselves.

Yeah.

The action is what drives everything. Not the talk.

Yep.

Not the talk. And then the other thing that I got from you, and it's actually a part of the title, right? Yes to You, No to Them. A lot of folks don't understand no is a complete sentence. N-O period.

Mm-hmm.

That's a sentence.

That's it.

My grandfather taught me that.

That's it.

You ain't gotta explain anything. For what? No.

Nope.

No. Give your take on that, man. No being a complete sentence. And then I wanna know why you wrote the book and what, where that title came from.

One thing I love about it is this, I love no. No change lives. There's gonna be a lot of bickering that comes with it because everybody just wants you to be a yes man.

Yeah.

They want you to be a yes man to they dreams. They want you to be a yes man to your distracts, to the distractions that they bring you. They would just want you to be a yes. And don't nobody remember, that no destroy all yeses. They don't remember none of the yeses before 'em. But if you establishing, I think people should establish they no early.

Yeah.

If younger people can establish a no in they life early, they life will change.

Yeah.

When you establish a no early, everything change.

Yeah.

Every, everything's changed for you, you know, when you just establish that no.

Mm-hmm.

You know, and I think that, that's real important.

No, and, and there's a business lesson in that. I tell entrepreneurs and especially salespeople, I'm actually trying to get you to tell me no.

Mm-hmm.

I wanna make it very comfortable for you to tell me no.

Yeah.

As soon as possible. Because when there's a breakup, I don't wanna wait till the very last moment to be broken up with, right?

Yeah.

We can break up early.

Tell me right now. We ain't even gotta start. We ain't gotta go nowhere. Tell me right now because I'm cool with no. 'Cause I understand it. Right. Because a lot of times no can mean two things. To me, no can mean next opportunity.

Right.

And it's a lot of lessons and blessings inside of a no, because all nos ain't bad.

No.

Sometimes you gotta get the understanding of a no. If you told me no about something, nigga, I'm be like, "Nigga, could you elaborate on why you reached that destination? Like what's going on?" Which is cool, but some people, they just like, if they don't get what they want when they want it, and they can't take advantage of you.

Yeah.

They upset.

Yeah.

They pissed.

Yeah. And you know, you also put in the book, and again, I'm just gonna keep repping the book today, Yes to You, No to Them. Go get it. Like right now there's links everywhere you're looking for it. You told me in the book there's 8 point something billion people on Earth.

Yes.

And people get confused that they need 2,000 yeses. You say you seen 5 to 10, 5 to 10 yeses will change your life.

Man, now they change. Listen, let me explain something to you. 5 to 10 yeses, it take you to another level because You gotta remember this, man. Think about the yeses that you might need. You need your wife to say yes.

Mm-hmm.

You got your business dealings. You need an investor to say yes. That's like once the, the real investor come. Right, right, right, right. You want the big bag.

Right, right.

That one yes could change your life forever financially.

Mm-hmm.

It could put some mean security around you, your wife, your kids, everything. And it could, it could really supercharge your business.

Mm-hmm.

Your whole business, the speaking, the podcast, everything you got going on under the Mick, under the Mick Hunt brand. And then you think about it, that's, that's, that's really two yeses right there. You know, your wife, yes, your foundation. How many more you need?

Right. But that goes back, people seek validation.

And then you might mess a yes up. You might get a big yes in your life, mess it up, and then you come back and get another yes and regroup. Ah.

I didn't even think about it that way.

Like, think about it. You don't need all them, you don't need anybody to say yes to you because you gotta say yes to you. It's your responsibility to say yes to you.. But outside of the yes to you that you saying to you, if you get 3 to 4 yeses, 5, you cool.

Yeah.

Especially if they important. Stop chasing the small yeses. Everybody out here chasing these baby yeses. Oh yeah, yes, I go to the party with you. Yes, I go out and get drunk with you. Yes, I'll loan you a couple hundred dollars. Man, that's babies. That's nah.

Right.

Chase the, man, focus on the big yeses. But you gotta know your yes. You gotta know the yes that you looking for. What yeses you looking for?

That's it.

If you just looking for everybody to say yes, then that's going, that's gonna cater to your insecurities and your fears and your shortcomings, it's over.

So what made you want to sit down and write this bestseller?

Man, this is everything. This right here, which is going to be a bestseller, it was simple. And I wanted to, you know, pattern it after social media.

Yeah. All the quotes you need.

You see what I'm saying? You know, love don't have a speed limit. Drivers dictate. You know what I'm saying? Because you know, you might meet somebody and just be like, man, I love this. I love this situation. I love what's going on.

Yeah.

You know what I'm saying?

Yep.

So that, that's how that be.

Nah, I, and again, I'm gonna keep talking about the book. I promise you, you're gonna be like me. And I told Wala this, I read it 4 times.

Right. That's major.

And now every day I go to what I call a passage because he just held it up for you. Every day you can go to a certain section of the book and that passage, that message is gonna speak to you and then put action around what that means to you today.

Mm-hmm.

And, and here's actually what I want people to do, and this just came to me. If you're watching, if you're listening right now, go get the book. June 16th, and what I wanna do 30 days later, starting July 16th, and I'm gonna start the movement with this. Mm-hmm. Collectively, we're gonna choose a message from the book and we're gonna talk about it that day. And every week.

Yes.

Every week, that's what we're gonna do. We're gonna take a quote from the book and on social media, that's gonna be the driving topic we talk about that week. And put action behind it. Because as much as they're quotes, they're actually actions for you to take to do something to change your life, to make your life better, to make your business better, to make you a better person. And we're gonna talk about it and we're gonna share with Walo what that message meant that week for us.

Mm. Can you see this? That's what I'm talking about. Yes to you, no to them.

The new bestseller.

Yes, sir.

The new bestseller.

Mm-hmm.

All right, Wallo. So this one I call The Room. Every person I know that's done something, there was a room, a meeting, a dinner that changed their life. What was that for you? Was it a room? Was it a meeting? Was it a dinner? Was it a conversation? What was that moment for Wallo that changed your life?

It wasn't just a room. It's the rooms that lead up to that room.

Mm.

They get you ready for it. Because one room could open up a door in another room. That's why you gotta, you gotta know how to move in rooms.

Yep.

Because I might come to your room and you might gimme a certain offer. And the offer you gimme in your room might lead to somebody else trying to gimme an offer in another room.

Mm-hmm.

So it's rooms. But the strongest room I ever been in, it was a small little office. And me and my partner, me and Gil, walked in that room and in less than 5 minutes, tens of million dollar deal was done and we walked out. It was simple. It wasn't no back and forth. It wasn't a—

Right.

It was a, they said this, they said this. All right, well this is what I'm gonna do. Here, take that. Walked out.

Wow.

Less than, less than, 3 minutes, probably.

And what was the feeling when you walked out the room?

It was unimaginable. I thought about it all night 'cause it was like, damn, this is great. That was great. And you just be like, you know that you wasn't as crazy as you thought you was. You like, no, you know something. You gotta be, you gotta really be crazy.

Yeah.

To believe in yourself. But it's, but it get even more crazier When you see the other people believe in you, the game changers believe in you, the life changers believe in you.

Mm-hmm. That's it.

Now you really like shit.

Right. And knowing the person that you are today, for you now, you're about creating those rooms for other people.

Mm-hmm.

Right? I see all the work that you're doing.— that doesn't get publicized.

Yeah.

Because you move in silence, right? Like you don't need to publicize you doing things for people or you doing things in the community.

No.

That's not who you are. But you are creating those rooms. For those that are watching, for those that are listening, what's the criteria to get in a Wallo room? What are you looking for?

Be you. 'Cause my rooms is everywhere. You might, you might get in my room in the airport. It might be in a hotel lobby. It might be walking down the street. It ain't about, it is about you gotta make it make sense.

Yeah.

Once you see me, it makes sense, I'm stopping.

Yeah.

Talk to you. I can, I talk to anybody, but it's like if you talking about some serious stuff, soon as you make it make sense, I'm open. My mind is, and I'm like, that's the room right there.

Yeah, I love it.

You know, some people, some people want to get in the room and don't even know what they going in the room to talk about sometimes.

Yeah.

And when I run into people like that, I try to educate 'em. I'm like, listen, this is what I need you to do. Let's start this over.

Yeah.

And they mess up. Let's start it over. No, this is what you need to say. First of all, what are you, where are you trying to go at? Where you trying to land at?

Yeah.

Let me know. Once you tell me where you trying to land, I can help you out so we can put this together. We gotta put this presentation together real quick. You got time? I might have 15 minutes.

Yeah.

But we gotta figure it out because you stepped to me, you didn't even know what you wanted. So let's figure out what you want. So once we figure out what, what you want, we get, we get established the delivery and we get established where you trying to land.

Yeah. Yeah. I love it. I love it. So before I get you outta here with my rapid fire hot 5, again, this episode is about this book because this book is game changing and I don't care who you are.

Mm-hmm.

You need the book. So much so that I'm gonna do this because everybody that's a follower of Mick Unplugged, they know when I have something that I support and I believe in, I like to give back. And usually I do 20 copies of what I'm, I like, but I heard your favorite number is 7, like Les Brown.

Mm-hmm.

So I'm gonna do 70.

Mm.

The, the, the first 70, and it always gets stuck because whoever's number 21 gets mad at me. It's, it's not my fault.

Yeah.

It's not my fault. But the first 70 people on Instagram that message me, yes to me. Mm. Yes to me. Yes to me. And I'm talking about you, 'cause that's the title of the book. Yes to You, No to Them. I'm gonna get you a copy of the book on me. Before I walk outta here today, I'm ordering 70 copies. You hear that? But then I need you to do me a favor. If you are number 71 through 6 million, amazon.com, Barnes Noble, Books-A-Million, your local bookstore.

Mm-hmm.

Pre-order now. Buy it now. You need it. I promise you every day there's something for you. Go get the book. I'm gonna have links in the show notes, in the descriptions. Again, the first 70 people, yes to me, I'm gonna get a copy. And then here's what we're gonna do starting July 16th. We're gonna go 30 days after release. We're going on social media once a week and we're gonna say what this book has meant to us. We're gonna choose a passage. We're gonna talk about it through the end of this year. That's how much I believe in the book because when my kids like something, I know it was something bigger than me. Mm-hmm. And that again, I'm giving you your flowers, bro. Thank you, my brother. Because it's that deep.

Thank you, man.

It's that deep.

I appreciate you.

All right. And then also, because I'm also here, the first 20 people, you see these, right? I think I need to give 20 people, I'm gonna buy 'em. I think I need to give 20 people these. Mm-hmm.

That's Major Mick.

But 'cause here's the kick though, because I can't just go buy 20 of like one size of these shoes.

You gotta figure out the sizes and then get back with us.

Yeah. But the first 20 people, I gotta figure out how to do this so it's fair. They gotta follow the brand and the brand is—

Airplanes and Hotels.

And I'll have links to that on social too. You gotta follow the brand. You gotta follow Wallo, you gotta follow me, and you gotta message the 3 of us so that I can confirm and validate. I'll reply back if you're in the top 20. Give me your shoe size. I got you. These are the most comfortable shoes, and I travel a lot. Airplanes and hotels, that used to be my nickname. [LAUGHTER] 'Cause that's where I'm at. That's where I'm at. When I tell you these are comfortable, these are all day. Yes. These are these. So much so, I got a speaking engagement Monday. I think I'm gonna wear these on stage.

Yes, sir.

I think I'm gonna wear these on stage.

Yes, sir.

That's how comfortable they are. So ladies and gentlemen, I threw out the challenge. Hit me up now. Wallo, I gotta get you outta here. This Unplugged 5, this rapid fire. I don't know if you ready. I'm ready. The hardest no you ever had to say was to who? Myself. My hardest no was to me too.

To me.

It was to me, looking in the mirror. Who's a better hooper, you or Gilly?

Gilly.

Really?

Without a doubt. Yeah, I don't, I don't, I'll be lying. I'll be, my game ain't like that. It used to be. Now back in '92, '93, that's different.

Okay. Okay. All right. We're in Philly, the king of the cheesesteak.

Mm-hmm.

I've had some recommendations that I haven't loved. I'm gonna be honest.

I'm gonna give you the best recommendation.

That's it. The best cheesesteak in Philly is?

Taste Cheesesteak. They got an oxtail cheesesteak.

Okay.

Yes. I'm gonna send you there. Okay.

I love it. I love it. I need you to finish this sentence. The freedom that follows saying no feels like— the freedom that follows saying no—

Feels like—

Feels like—

Greatest thing in your life.

Greatest thing in your life. So the last question is a two-part. When the story of your life is being produced, When the movie "Wallow" comes out, 'cause I'm putting that in the, I'm putting it out there, what's one or two words you want to define you and your legacy in that film?

Giver.

Giver. Who plays you in that film? That's the follow-up.

Michael B. Jordan.

If you'd have asked me that, that's exactly who I would've said. Michael B. Jordan.

He that guy.

Ladies and gentlemen, this has been my good friend, Wallo267. I'm gonna keep saying it, go get this book, Yes to You, No to Them. It's available right now. It's available right now. Wallo, brother. Appreciate you, man. Appreciate you more than you know.

Thank you, Mick.

I appreciate you.

Appreciate you for coming out here, man. Yes, sir. Mick Unplugged.

That's it. And to all the viewers and listeners, And remember, your because is your superpower. Go unleash it.

Yes.