Transcript of BISPING'S BELIEVE YOU ME Podcast 614: Did Shavkat Get Exposed? Ft. Paul Felder

Conceive, believe, achieve. Shut the up. You're listening to believe you me with Michael the Count Biz Bing No. My name is. And Anthony Lionheart Smith.

I'm doing call.

Not too bad, man. Not too bad.

You better than me. Jesus Christ. I was just in Las Vegas. Still catching up on sleep. I know we're a little bit late starting the recording this morning.

I text. I was like, I'll be there in 5 minutes. I was still in bed. I got up. I went to the doctors this morning to get a checkup on the neck.

Everything's normal. Still being in agony after 6 weeks is totally fine. Don't worry. We're not talking about the neck, the whole show.

No. No. No. No.

We're not. But I was worn down, beat down from Las

Vegas. Yeah.

Financially more than anything. I'll tell you that. Missus Dave, my wife my wife came with me. It cost a fortune.

Well, I saw you went out to some, nightclub dinner at Eastwell. Yeah. I saw that. Let's see here.

Nobody walks down. Let's go, Paul. I wish

I had my my glow sticks and stuff.

Let's go. Did you do a bit of raving back in the day?

Not really, but I I I've messed around with some glow sticks.

Yeah. You know how it is. Go to the fights. We hadn't eaten a thing all day. First of all, we stayed at a beautiful hotel, the UFC, where they put us, and they had a nice spa, right?

$180 each to get into the spa just for access alone, right? So then we go to the spa and then there's a 20% gratuity immediately added. Now I'm not a cheap guy, but I'm like, we're not having any services. We're literally just going into the spot. Yeah.

Yeah. So anyway, whatever. That was my first complaint of the day. Then she goes in, they allowed her they escorted her in whilst a man escorted me to the gentleman's side. I was standing there for 15 minutes and then I'm like, what's going on?

And I think it's because I made a joke about the tip. I was like, well, why are we tipping? You know, I think they made me wait on purpose. So that was complaint number 2. And then we got in there and it was packed out.

Packed. You couldn't get in anything. And then all these, like, weird sauna rooms. There was a herbal sauna area, which wasn't even hot. And there was, like, these a lot little like some dried up marijuana on top of the thing.

What's this meant to do? Then there was a salt room that You're meant to smoke it. It was cold, you know? Then the infrared sauna room didn't get hot. Then there was a meditation sauna room.

Okay. I went in there and there's a show at 3 o'clock and a woman comes in. You all sit there. There's, like, 30 people, because it's a big old sauna. And this woman comes in and she's given a shower wafting a towel around.

You know, it was like being in a Peloton sauna class. She's got, you're doing great, guys. In through the mouth Oh

my god.

Out through the mouth and stick your tongue out when you breathe out. And I'm like, I had my eyes shut because I was like, I'm over it. And I'm looking, man, in these dickheads. They're all over them. And I'm like, get me out of here.

We're trying to be out of

here the night before. At what point did Yuri Prohaska come in and do a

Yes, guys. Great. You're doing great now. Yes. So anyway, we we ducked out of that pretty quick.

Got ready, went to the fight, saw some of the prelims, in my form while Rebecca was taking forever to get ready. Got to the arena just in time for Anthony Smith versus Dominant Reyes. Because I wanted to be in the building for that 1.

It was, it was a rough 1 to watch, man, because it was obvious from anybody that knows him, anybody that watched, that's not normally how Anthony Smith would enter an octagon, emotionally, just seemingly not where you want to be in a mental state to, to be getting ready for a fight. It gets, especially against a guy like Dominic brace. Who's really trying to use Anthony Smith to make a name off of himself again, to climb back up into those rankings. And you could tell he's still hurt, man. He's he's beyond, still grieving.

And, I, you know, I was here with a couple of friends watching the pay per view on, on, on the TV.

And let me just jump in there, Paul, because obviously, I was in the crowd. I wasn't watching on TV. And I saw that Dominic Reyes afterwards said that he was asking Reyes. Now Dominic said Anthony was asking to be punched in the face so he could feel something. Did that come through on the microphone?

I didn't hear necessarily exactly what what was said, but you could see that he was yelling stuff and putting his hands down and just wanting to get punched in the face. I didn't know it was so that he could, you know, quote that he could feel something, but it was obvious that he just, you know, pardon my language. He didn't give a shit. You know what I mean? He was in there, and he'd even said it in the build up that he just wanted to go out there and punch somebody in the face, and he was trying to spin it in a good light.

The last time he did that was when he fought Gustafsson, you know, in Gustafson back in his backyard. But there's a big difference between where he was then and what he's dealing with having lost, you know, somebody that was pretty much 1 of his best friends and coach and someone that's been around his career as long as he has. It was, it was tough. And I was screaming at the TV, put your effing hands up. Like, what are you doing?

Because he had moments and he was being aggressive. That was the 1 thing that I was looking at in a positive, like I'm like, he's going for it. At least, at least maybe this will bring that out of him. He won't sit and wait around. He's gonna go after it, but ultimately, he was just taking too many shots.

And, he could tell he didn't necessarily wanna be in there.

Well, we we say all the time, and you know what I'm talking about. You don't wanna be overly emotional when you're going into a fight. You gotta be in control of your emotions or emotionless. When I saw Anthony, we were there right by the prep point. He's walking in and, you know, visibly visibly very, very upset.

Of course, at that moment, he would have gone through that moment with his old mentor and coach and that probably brought all of that emotion to the forefront. I understand. That's why I don't think he should have taken that fight at all. And I understand his reasoning for that maybe to give him something to train for a way to honor the memory of Stuart or whatever the case may be. But people don't they won't remember that when they look back, you know?

And it's a real I feel for Anthony. I saw him briefly after the fight. He was there with his daughter. So with his 4 daughters and his wife, we exchange. You know, you're trying to find the right words, you know.

Yeah.

It's so tough, man. Like, what do you say? What do you say?

There's nothing to say. There's nothing you you can there's nothing you can say that's gonna make you feel better. I went over. I gave him a quick hug. I'm like, goddamn.

It's a tough sport, Anthony. You know, and he's like, yeah. It's a tough sport. We'll talk soon. And he walked off.

I didn't wanna get into it all with his infinite of his daughters and whatnot, but he was clearly upset. You know, I'm Riley Shaw, I get it, I understand it. We're all dejected when we lose a fight, but certainly in that style. And then given what he's been through recently and given the run of form that he's had lately, Anthony and Brian, you, you are friends with Anthony. Of course, do you guys have any takes, any opinions, any words you want to give on a 4 shot or a 3 shot?

I mean, I'll, I'll, I'll be honest with you. We were doing a, we were doing a Twitter spaces, Brian and I, Shout out to all the believers who were hanging out for that. I mean, I I said

know, and I wanna jump jumps on for a minute.

You were in the audience Yep.

I'm the like,

the Lizbabe.

Sound good. I would jump on. I would Hold on now.

Next time. Next time.

We'll text you next time. Believe you me, Brian. I mean, you guys are a part of it. When you ain't shit, just so you know. If we're if we're if we are witnessing a hostile takeover right now, I ain't going out without a fight.

That's all. But you and Felder are all getting together. Mhmm. I'm out. Anthony Felder are in.

It's you 2.

That's what happens when when when you show up so late that Paul's here before you. We have time to plot, Michael.

Oh, yes. Yes. I will go away.

No. What I was gonna say is during that, when the when when when the coach came in and I think it was cut man, Tate, who came in with the scissors to, like, cut his hand wraps off.

Yeah.

That was the first time I I was like, I was actively rooting, you know, like, hey, you know, please, Anthony, like, just drop the gloves, man. Like it's, you know, and, and he had them cut off and then he wasn't sure going back and forth with Joe. And my biggest takeaway from that was just like, dude, you're an incredible analyst. You have, you have so many things set up. Why keep doing this to yourself?

Why pull yourself out of, you know, TV work and doing everything when, like, when this is clearly the the the path forward? You know, so so when those gloves did come off, there was, like, a feeling of relief, you know, inside of me watching that.

Well, the thing is, and Paul knows this, you know, the TV works all well and good, but the Paychex pale in comparison to what you make fighting. And Anthony's on really good money. I don't wanna say probably what he's on, but I do know what he gets paid. I think I know. And, it's it's he gets paid very handsomely.

So obviously, does that. I don't think he will retire. I I think when he watches that back, he's gonna be, and I'll choose my words carefully, but I I know the emotions of a fighter. I think he's gonna be embarrassed when he watches that, and that's gonna fuel him to want to come back and fight again. And I would like to see him fight again because I don't believe that the world deserves to remember him like that.

That wasn't Anthony at his best. And again, I'll say this and maybe I'll owe him an apology. I thought that when he took his shirt off at the prep point, I thought he doesn't look to be in shape, which I kinda get because he's had so many distractions. You know, you got the grieving process, then you got the funeral, then you've There's so many stages of grief that you go through when somebody passes away, somebody that close. The last thing you're thinking about is training twice a day, eating the right food, going for a massage, focusing on your recovery, meditation, and all that type of stuff.

No, you're like, okay, I'll show up. I'll do my job. I'll make way, which he almost didn't, and then go and kick some ass. But for him, it was it was it was it was a mistake. Maybe it was therapeutic to him in some ways, and hopefully we can get him on again soon and he can go through it all.

But I'd like to see him fight again. What about you, Paul?

Yeah. When he took the gloves off too, I was like, okay, this is he's gonna be done. This is gonna be it. But the way that he felt in the way that he was talking in that post fight interview, I agree. I don't, I, I don't think that's going to be it.

I know Dana probably wants a lot of those guys in the car that were nearing the end of their career to retire. But I I think if it's up to him, he he he would have 1 more. And if he does do 1 more, I think it should be 1 more, and I think he should go all in on it and win, lose, or draw. Just have a good camp, have a good process, and have a good mindset going into it. You don't want it's such an emotional moment.

You just wanna be done with it. You're sick of the sport when you lose a coach like that, when you're going through all that, and you could you could feel all of that. He felt like that's what he should do, but I think he needs to think about it. And, I wouldn't mind seeing Anthony fight again on a on a better camp where he's not going through all that. Take some time, deal with everything that you've gotta deal with, get back on TV, do a couple jobs, and see how you feel.

And if you're still feeling that itch to get back in there and wanna kick somebody's ass 1 more time and and then properly give a send off to everybody that's been following you as long as they have, I I wouldn't mind that. In the moment, I was like, alright. I was the same as you guys. I was like, yeah, man. Just be done.

You don't need this. But in hindsight now, looking at everything he went through for that camp, I'd like to see 1 more time where he goes out there with that same energy he brought where it looked like he was just gonna go for it and throw down, but not with all the heavy heart and and all the stuff that he had to go through.

Brian?

Yeah. I mean, to to Paul's point, Danny said so much at the end of the at the end of the fights that he was like, these handful of dudes need to need to just give it up. But like you guys are saying, I I also don't wanna see Anthony. You know, he's our friend. I don't wanna see him go out like that either.

So I'd love to see him fight 1 more time, but he needs to be into it. You know? Like and it's gonna be tough. He's just lost his head coach and best friend. Like, I'm not sure, how you replace that even just 1 time.

Yeah. No. No. I I understand that point, of course. But you've gotta be you you gotta be respectful of the sport as well.

I'm sitting there dealing with serious neck issues. I've got 2 knee replacements. I've already had multiple neck surgeries before. I've got 1 eye for crying out loud. Can't breathe through my nose, which was rebuilt because of ribs.

They took some of my ribs and rebuilt my nose. And you know, I always make jokes about CTE. Fortunately, I'm fine in that regard. But, there's the scars, the breakages, the the replacements, the eyes that have lost. This isn't a sport that you play, you know, and that's why people say he needs to retire.

That's why this Dana says, Chris Weidman and Clay Guida need to retire because the more times you step in that and certainly as you get older and you start getting a bit more frail and you don't recover quite as well, that shit will stay with you. So if he is going to do it, I would, if he fights, I'm going to give him a call. Hopefully he picks up. And, just said, dude, if you do this, do it for the right reasons and trainers. If you're training for a world title fight, as if you're going up against Jon Jones, you know, for the greatest of all time for the BMF or whatever it is, you've got to leave no stone unturned.

Otherwise, if you're not willing to do that, then don't even think about it in the 1st place.

100% here. And this is that Michael Bisping might come back for another fight.

Yeah. Well, no.

Let me know, Mike. I'll jump on that card.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Go on, Hamington. Go on.

Well, let me say, just earlier this

year, we saw that for the Vitor Petrino fight. Right? This is a young guy who's up and coming, who calls Anthony out, who wants to make a name off of him. And Anthony Smith said, I'm not going out like that. I'm not gonna, you know, take take 3 losses back and and do this that

the other. Lou Harrington give us a 2 shot. Sorry, Mike. Sorry about we've we've we've we've, we've been through that on multiple shows, and we just don't wanna repeat, what we've said. Alright.

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Oh, man. Well, I

mean, I Initially, that was a start. Oh, we'll touch on the the similar things. It was a I I never thought I'd see Chris Weidman losing to Eric Sanders in the fashion that he did either.

Yeah. Getting ground and pounded like that. Now now there's somebody that's had some chances since having really bad surgeries, and I think this 1 was like, okay, you had them in certain moments. You had them hurt for a little bit. And you know, Eric Anders, God bless him, but he he's not, you know, the top of that division by any means.

And, he he was putting a beating on him towards the end. And I know he was arguing that stoppage for a little bit, but I I was in a complete agreeance with the ref stepping in there. You were just taking way too many shots, And I think that's it. I think after that 1, you know, I'm almost glad that didn't happen in Madison square garden in New York. So close to where Chris is from with, with everybody that might've been there.

So maybe that was a blessing in disguise that it had got to happen in a more neutral ground in Vegas. But, yeah, I was a big Chris Weidman fan. I loved him when he was a champion, but I do think, I think that ship has sailed. I think it's time for him to to dude, you've done so much in the freaking sport. And I know money is always an issue when you're an athlete and, you know, you don't necessarily have other things, but now is definitely the time to start thinking about what am I gonna do full time post being a UFC fighter because I father time is there and it's knocking hard on his door.

Let me ask you, Paul, and by the way, you're right in what you said because Eric Sanders himself isn't calling for title fights and stuff like that. I thought that was very he knew his place in the sport when he was

on the season. I love that. Yep.

Yeah. I know. It was very self aware. He was like, look, listen, I ain't calling for title fights or anything like that. I know I've got a few more fights left in this sport, and I just want some fights that are gonna be fun, you know, and maybe that you people will enjoy.

And I thought that was very grounded and very self aware as I said. When you stepped away from the sport, Paul, and I know you had some, ups and downs and changes of heart kind of recently, you were considering it again. It is 1 of the hardest things to do, certainly when you're so embedded with it for so long. But what was kind of your decision making, Paul? And what did you think you would do after it?

I mean, did you know you were gonna be a commentator when you initially first retired?

Yeah. So, I mean, I was already doing that so much anyway that I was having to take time off of commentating to to get fully invested into training camps. And I think once I lost honestly to Dan Hooker and I thought I won that fight and I thought that was really my chance. That was my first main event. It was a big event down in New Zealand.

I figured if I beat him, I was setting myself up for big, big shots. And I was really gonna start making a march towards the title. If I beat Dan in New Zealand, I was gonna be getting the chances at Gaethje or Poirier or these guys in the top of the division. And when I lost that 1, I kind of retired there and then turned around and said, no, I wanna fight again. And then after the RDA fight, which I took on short notice, it was like, I kind of what we just said with Anthony.

I wasn't finding the same motivation anymore, the same desire to when's the next 1. Who's next. What's next. I need to fight. I need to fight.

And when I wasn't doing that anymore, when that wasn't my initial gut instinct to just be begging my manager to get on the phone to Sean Shelby, to Hunter and to like, get a fight going. That's when I was like, well, that's a scary place to be if I'm not just clawed to be in there. You know what I mean? So I think that's when I started really saying, okay, well, I'm gonna I just took time off at first And then when I was kind of happy doing commentary, just doing my own training, whether it was a little bit of MMA or doing triathlons, I was having fun doing that. That's when I was like, okay, if you're enjoying this and you're not losing your mind because you don't have a fight lined up, that's when I knew, okay.

But again, I'm in a special place where I had something else going on. I do understand for guys that don't that, like, well, what am I gonna do?

It's so hard. It is for a for a lot of guys. 99.9 percent of the roster, you know. Yeah.

They don't know. They don't

know what they're gonna do. In the boxing world. Again, same thing in boxes, 0.001 percent of guys that go on afterwards and have a career in broadcasting. You know, I mean, that is very rarefied out. And I'm not saying that to big ourselves up.

I'm saying it to to understand the peril of what a lot of these guys face.

We're lucky. We're lucky.

You're Alex Pereira, you Chuck Liddell, you're big names of the sport. They're not having these kind of feelings. And I had a really good career and I've never complained about the money I was paid because I did very well. But I wasn't commentating. I was doing the desk stuff.

You know what I mean? And it was only and and it always annoyed me. I'm like, Faldo's doing it. Dominic Hughes is doing it. DC is doing it.

What the

hell? When's my turn?

I'm like, what the hell? Give me a shot. Put me in, coach. And when I retired, I did. So anyway, Anthony, whatever happens, it'll all work out.

And that's the thing I was gonna say. All these fighters, you you don't see a life after fighting. And anyone that's doing something for so long, you can't imagine any kind of other scenario where because I always like to try and liking it to not just fighting, for anyone watching this that might be in a similar position in life. You know what I mean? There's always the next chapter in life.

You know what I mean? And because I didn't see a life of myself outside of fighting, outside of putting those gloves on. And now I'm busier than I've ever been, and granted I'm still involved with the sport. But other guys, they find other things like Patrick Cummins. Patrick Cummins, I think he's he's doing all kinds of stuff.

I follow him on Instagram, all these fighters I used to train with. They're doing really good, fun, interesting stuff all over the world, and there's always there's always an afterlife if you're still willing to put that same kind of work in. So all the best to all you guys. Who did he say? Dana, Clang, Goeda, Anthony?

Yeah. Clay and, Chris and Chris Wyman.

And Chris Wyman. Yeah. Alright. Main event. Main event.

Give me your thoughts on that 1.

Pantosia is a beast, man. He's an absolute monster. But you know what I love about it too was you got this newcomer who's known for just absolute devastating knockouts, crazy power, beautiful knees, and Pantosha went right after this dude, right from the jump and was not afraid to mix it up and trade with him whatsoever on the feet. That was his octagon. That was his place.

And he truly, he just truly fought like a champion. I mean, he just went out there and did exactly what he needed to do. And especially, you know, as a UFC guy, I love having new guys come in, but, you know, it felt like, all right, man, you showed the world why this is the best place to be fighting. This is where the best fighters are. And that kid is good, and I'm excited to see him mix it up in the division, but now that I'm

proud of you. I'm proud of you. Spoken like a true company, man. Hell, yeah. That's it.

I'm like, Paul gets it. Paul gets it. All we're here to do is big up the UFC and not have an original thought. No. That's it.

Yeah. You guys are so dumb. Anyway, but but but you are right. I mean, what was it? A round and a half of action.

Beautiful stuff from both. You know, the flyway, the speed of these guys, the aggression of Pantosha, the ability that he had, the well roundedness, that was the big difference. As a quarter, clearly a devastating striker, but he's kind of a 1 trick pony where Pantosha can do it all. The threat of the strikes opens up the wrestling and so on and so forth. Just great work.

I love the call out of Mighty Mouse. I know Mighty Mouse came back out and said, No, you ain't getting my ass out of retirement. However, I still like it. I still think there might be a world 1 day where mighty mouse could be lured out of retirement and we could see him back. What do you reckon?

How old is,

Demetrius now? I think he's, like, 24.

Harrington, jump on if you can. Don't be all offended now. Come on. I was only playing with you. Is he is he 40?

I don't think

so. No.

Sorry. I I wasn't offended. I was just googling his age. He is 38. 38.

30 8 in August.

Yeah. You still got time.

How old are you, Harrington?

I'm 36.

Oh, y'all dude, you still got time? Yeah. Yeah. Put that

in a good work.

I feel like I said, it's gonna be a

flyweight champion.

What's that?

I said Harrington's gonna be flyweight champion 1 day.

Oh, yeah. You never know. You never know. How but Pantoja versus Harrington. Let's go.

What were your thoughts on the main event, Harrington?

I mean, look. I it's a little frustrating for me how much we were hyped on on this Kai Asakura guy, and then we barely got to see him. Pantosia just did not let him establish himself at range. Like, it felt like if if they were to stand in kickbox, he would have been in for a world of trouble because Ascaura did seem really fast and really powerful when he was given those short opportunities. But Pantoja just didn't give him that chance at all.

It was like, what's the clearest path to victory? Get him down and get him unconscious. It worked. Yeah.

So I I was in the fight.

To do that is to strike with him first. Right? And that's what he that's what he did well was his ability to engage enough on the feet, not be afraid because a lot of times, if you're just shooting at distance and you're scared of the striking, it's impossible to get a take down against guy with good take down defense. But if you can engage with them and put some fear into them of your own strikes, it opens up all the wrestling in the world and Pantosha did that great.

And that's why you can't be a 1 trick pony. That's as simple as that. You've gotta be Yeah, you can be a specialist up here, but you've still gotta have everything else at a decent foundation level to where you can still use it against world class people to open up what you're really good at. I was sitting in the fire section, so I had Brandon Royval 2 seats down from me. He wanted Assakora to win bad for obvious reasons because he'd get a shot next.

But right in front of me, we'll go through the other fights in just a sec. How much did no, how much did you jump on? This is why I wanted you on. In front of me, there was a couple of empty seats and I believe that's where the bantamweight champ, Murad Dovalch Ville, was supposed to be sitting. And the UFC staff came and they moved everything around.

And I think that a couple of people got moved because they could have been near to each other. I would say just give me the lowdown. What was going on last week? I know Murab was scrapping with someone in the audience. I know Nate Diaz was in the building for the press conference, and he was chucking water bottles at Islam.

I, on the flip side, pushing around, commentating, doing power slabs, paying for a ridiculously expensive meal, and worrying about my credit card balance. Yeah. So so what was going on with all this drama?

So there was a couple of different things. Nate Diaz was in town. He was working with, I believe, either 1 of the fighters on the card or just somebody. He had some reason to be in Vegas, but he pulled up to the UFC 211.

In Kron's corner.

He was in Kron's corner. That's what it was. Okay. So he showed up, at the UFC 211 press conference where, you know, Arman and Islam were 311. I keep doing that.

I keep saying 210, 2 I don't wanna believe that I'm old enough to have lived through UFC 300.

Well, I think you've got 3 kids, and you're giving them all calling them the wrong name. It's it's impressive.

The, yes. So so Nate shows up to that. He gets into a shouting match with Islam, tells Islam to pull up, man, you know, that whole thing. When Islam doesn't immediately pull up, Nate just starts chucking water bottles because apparently, that's his move. So that that's what went down there.

But the, the Murad thing was was a completely separate incident. That happened the night of the fight. He was he was in, Aljo's corner. He was walking back with him after the fight. Sorry.

What were you saying?

Do we have a video whilst Hammington's playing? There we go. Carry on, Hammington.

So you can see Murab is clearly, or not in this video, but a little bit earlier. You can see Murab filming Aljamain, and this guy comes up. And and as he's walking by, grabs Murab by the arm and then starts talking to him. They go back and forth for a couple of minutes. There's some shoving, and then, you know, Murab tries to get at him.

Security gets in the middle, and then somebody else on the team, I guess the guy carrying the bucket, with with, with Morab and Aljo, he ends up going back and actually throwing strikes with the guy. Initial reports were that it was a fan in the audience. People did some digging online. They found that guy was hanging out with Islam and Khabib and his whole team after. There is rumors that he's actually on their fight team, and was just talking crap there.

Yeah. There's the guy right there.

Ah, okay. Okay. Mhmm. A little bit of drama going on.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, they would have been aggressive at the post fight press. These guys are fighters. This is what happens. And you know, because you're on the inside, they do everything they can to try and avoid these kind of things happening where people run into 1 another. But fires are unpredictable by nature.

We're fiery. We're, you know, sometimes a little bit stupid because the emotions get too much and then you act out and you do something that you might later regret. I didn't realize that Nate Diaz had such a beef with his own Makhachev though.

Yeah. I didn't. I mean, I think Nate's got a beef with anybody that's not on his side. Do you know what I mean? Like, if you're not team Diaz, he's got, he's got beef.

So it's the Khabib connection. Cause he's always had, he's always had a thing back and forth with Habib. So, you know, now Islam is in Habib spot, so he's gotta have beef with him.

He's gonna have beef with me now. He's gonna have beef beef. That's t h. What is he doing? The mantle I said I've said this before, and he obviously you know, I'm a fan of the ideas.

I love the character. I do. I do. I love talking about what he does. I love seeing him fight.

I love the attitude. I love the, you know, relentless attitude that he has all the time. But outside of that, you can't live your life. Everywhere he chose is getting into fights into scraps, throwing water bottles, punching security guards, choking out Logan Pauls. Do Do you know what I mean?

It's like, you know, at some point, at some point, you just gotta you just gotta let you go. I'm not gonna get into it.

It's amazing for guys that smoke so much weed that they they they seem always so pissed off. Right? I mean, if I'm high, I'm, I'm not chucking water bottles at people when I'm like that. You know, I'm usually looking for something to eat and sitting on my couch, relaxing, but these guys, they, they get the reefer in them and then it's time to start fighting with everybody. But you know what?

That being said, at least he is who he says he is. Right. I mean, I, again, I agree with you. It's like, at what point do you go? All right.

You know, you don't need to be getting into these altercations just everywhere you go, But 209, baby.

Yeah. And you hit the nail on the head, and that's why people do, still adore him so much and follow him, and they're so obsessed with him because authenticity. He's authentic. He's authentic and people buy into that. You know what I mean?

And people, relate to that, of course. And as you say, I'm glad you brought that up about the weed. I'm the same way. I'm not a habitual weed smoker, but of course I have. I remember when I was a kid, my old mate, Stuart Hudson, he used to, like, you know, he used to get me stoned and then he'd be like, well, let's go for a walk.

I'm like, go for a walk. I'm sitting on this park bench. I ain't moving. I'm lying here paranoid as hell for the next 2 hours until this wears off so I can go home and then get in bed. Did you know what I mean?

Last thing

I wanna do

is bump in bump into my old money, and he kicks the crap out of me for being high.

Yeah. The last thing I'm looking to do is chuck water bottles at people. That that that's for

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Anyway, call main event. Ian Gary, Shavkat Ratmanov. Ian's come out since he's spoken about it. And he's still very proud of his performance because he almost got the finishing round 5. And he did.

He almost got the finishing round 5 and he went the distance with somebody that's finished everybody. So there's a lot to be proud about that, you know? And he did he was the closest 1 to get in the finish between the 2 of them, but he did still ultimate ultimately lose. And I'm not saying to, to take a dump on Ian, Gary, because I've done the same thing. You come out with reasons and we'll get into the, you know, the x, y's and z's, x's and o's as you guys say in just a second of the fight.

But after a loss, I always looked for a silver lining. You know what I mean? I would always say, well, well, I, you know, I did this or that guy. I remember when I got knocked against Vito Belfort. And in the first round, that was like, I might have out landed him once or twice.

I'm like, oh, well, you know, the guy was a multiple weight champion. And I, I outboxed him in the 1st round. You know? Yeah. Right before I got my head kicked off my shoulders.

You know? So you always as a fighter, you kinda do that. You look for a way to soften the blow. The reality is he did do very, very well. It wasn't the most entertaining fight because he was looking to counter.

He didn't wanna over commit to anything and then therefore get taken down. I thought he did a tremendous job in stopping the takedown over 5 rounds. Yeah. He got taken down here and there, but he bounced back up pretty quickly. What were your thoughts on the fight?

Yeah. I agree. I I think, even even coming off of a loss, I think that he proved that he is amongst the very, very elite in that division. And I do think that he's not going anywhere. I think that we're only going to see better stuff from him after this loss.

Right? He, he, he went out there against the boogeyman of that division right now, the guy that most people really don't wanna see come across the table. And he did fantastic. I mean, again, like you said, a close fight. He didn't get the w, but, man, he proved that he belongs there in those positions fighting for number 1 contendership, fighting for the possibility of fighting for the belt.

And I think if you're below, you're pretty happy with either 1 of those guys winning. Right? I mean, they spent a lot of time in the clinch. There was a lot of moments of inactivity, whereas a guy like Bilal Mohammed, he's gonna be relentless in those positions, against the fence with the takedown attempt. So I know Shavkat potentially had a a a pretty bad knee injury that he was dealing with.

How badly that affected him, we we don't, you know, we can't really know, but he did look a little off to me. But I'm telling you, if I'm the champ, I'm I'm excited for the next matchup with him. I think that there's I think a lot of times we see when these guys are so scary and all these finishes, once somebody shows a little bit of weakness in them shows that there's the chance to beat them, other guys are very excited at the opportunity. So I'm excited to see that fight happen.

Yeah. I mean, Ian Garry was the guy that stopped himself from getting finished. That's down to Ian Garry. Shavkat didn't look, you know, particularly dangerous or particularly scary. You know, didn't look like somebody that Bilal is gonna think, oh, I can't beat this guy.

But it's the previous 18 other fights also that you have to look at. That's the thing when you're the champion, being the best version of yourself and overcoming the adversity every single time, that's the hard part. And when you're undefeated, then you've always finished everybody continuing to do that. Again, that's the challenge. He still got the job done when he had a relatively lackluster, shall we say?

I think it's fair to say that we all know it wasn't a barn burner. Callum picked us up from the airport cause I had a TNT post show to do yesterday to rush back. Couldn't get an Uber, by the way, he's got shingles. Are you familiar with shingles? Yeah.

He calls up in the day. Yeah. Go on.

It's strange because that's something that you usually get later in your life if you've had chickenpox. Did he have chickenpox when he was younger?

I don't think he did. No.

It's crazy. Because usually I think it's a virus that's similar to chickenpox, but usually it doesn't reemerge and and cause issues for people until they're, I don't know, I wanna say usually in, like, their sixties, seventies, potentially. That's 20

I know. He's 23. We woke up in Vegas and in Texas, and then Miserable. He's got it bad all over his body. And he said, the pain is insane.

Yeah. It's miserable.

So anyway, we were gonna get an Uber because of that because we're only 20 minutes from the airport. I'm like, son, I've gotta get back quick. You're gonna have to pick me up, shingles or not. Anyway, so he picked me up and and we're driving back and we're talking about the fights. And he says, yeah, but dad, Shavkat's always boring.

I mean, what do you mean? He's finished every single opponent. He said, yeah, and this I'm bringing this up for a conversation. He said, yeah, and that's why people forget that. He said, most of the time he's not like the craziest fighter.

He's very methodical and he takes his time, but he always gets the finish. So people overlook the rest of the fight. And I was like, well, that's so natural, actually an interesting take. I don't know if it's true, but it's an interesting take Paul Harrington as well. What's your thoughts on that?

Well, I mean, he I I can see what he's saying. Yeah. Where he doesn't go out and fight reckless. He doesn't go crazy for the finish. He's not necessarily always in these, crazy barn burner type fights, him putting people up against the fence, using that clinch and trying to find moments there and get around to the back, look for a submission.

And he was throwing the things that sometimes will get him a big moment, like a spinning heel kick. And he did land some good punches, but credit to Gary. I mean, he and Gary took took those shots and was able to to stay in there, and usually guys don't. But your son's got a good point there. Yeah.

Up until those big moments, sometimes it's methodical. He takes his time. He really picks his shots. He doesn't overextend himself too much. I think he was in a little crazier fight when he fought, Jeff Neal.

I think that

was a little wild.

But, yeah,

that was a good 1. The reason I was grinning to myself and Harrington give me your take, the reason I was grinning to myself, though, is I've just realized the hack on how I can say a controversial opinion and say it was someone else's. Like your son? Yeah. I said, so I was talking to Callum and Callum says this, what do you think?

So if I start dropping Callum a lot, then you know it's bulky.

Yeah. We're gonna call him Callum hot takes.

Callum hot takes. Oh, hot takes with Callum. Might be a good 5 minute segment.

I don't hate it. Yeah.

Now I gotta edit this out. You can't be giving away the sauce, Mike.

What did you think about that, Harrington?

Like, I was gonna agree, honestly. The, the I was talking to you off air. Like, I I I thought Ian Gary had a very good chance in this fight because I thought Ian Gary could just Ian Gary the crap out of this fight. Like, I don't think Shavkat's Shavkat's not Khamzat. You know what I mean?

He's not coming out and hitting blast double legs.

He's picking

guys up and and expending every single bit of energy he has to get that finish in the 1st round. Shopkot is methodical, and he'll just pick you apart till he finds that opening. And he's just been good enough to always find it. And I thought against Ian Garry, he was gonna prove too sound, too you know, present too few openings to, stymie a lot of what Chavka does, like Paul was saying, the the spinning stuff to try to create those openings. And, I mean, I think the fight played out largely like I thought it was going to.

I think they were both way too hesitant in those first 2 rounds. I mean, what do we have? Like, 1 shot decided both of those rounds? That's crazy to me.

Yeah. No. It it was low in that regard. Shavkat got the job done. The next many faces will be Bilal Mohammed who again was right there, and he they called him into the ring and I was like, go on, Bilal.

And everyone was like, go on. So he jumps over and then security. Weren't going to let him in initially. Joe Rogers, like security doesn't know who he is. And then McGregor came out

and he had a pretty, he

had a, he had a funny response. It's like security. Does it even know who the F that guy is, Which come on, it's a good throwback line. It's pretty funny. You know, it's not funny for Bilal.

No. How do you see that by now? I think I think Bilal does very well.

I I if the same shot, if this fight is anywhere near what it was in, in the Ian Gary fight, I see Bilal winning that fight. I really do. I think he's got just in sane pace that he puts on guys. He doesn't get the clinch and just hold you there. He might hold you there along the fence, but he's constantly looking for another takedown and he's got an awkward style of striking.

That's Ian. Gary's very polished, super sharp from the outside, but below wants to get in and he throws weird kicks and he throws weird punches. He switches stances. He mixes in his take downs. Now listen, shop cuts incredible.

He he's undefeated still, just cause he's coming off of a close decision and and and a fight that wasn't necessarily all that crazy, doesn't mean that he's not gonna show up healthier and even better for that title fight. But I like, I like Allah Mohammed's chances a lot in that fight now.

Kevin Bone has got a heart attack now. Go.

Well, I was gonna ask you both. You'd you you kinda touched on it there, Paul. The health factor, he, Daniel Cormier came out after the fight and said that Chobcott took that fight with a partially torn MCL. Do you think that has anything to do with with the performance that we saw? And would that make things different for the Bilal fight?

I don't think so. No. I

think I think it might have hindered his, ability to throw crazy kicks and stuff, but he threw them anyway. And and he got the fight where he wants fights often to happen, which is a long defense. And in that clinch dirty boxing, looking for takedowns occasionally. So,

Speaker 3 (1h 45m 20s): I don't think so because if you're well enough to step into the octagon, which is the gage, you know, a lot of the time once the adrenaline kicks in of the fight, you'll forget about that injury. And we saw him going for takedowns and we saw him do spinning wheel kicks and we saw him getting the clench as you said. So I don't think that did hinder him at all. Next for Ian Gary. I think the loudest very well saying that, as I said earlier, even on what we might call a bad night, he still managed to be an undefeated Ian Gary.

Confident that Gary's really good 15 now for a goddamn reason, you know? And even on quote unquote a bad night and not an entertaining night with an injury like the partially strained MCL or Tom, whatever it was, he still got the victory. And that's all that matters when it's all said and done. All right, this episode is sponsored by Prize Picks, and Prize Picks is the best place to get real money sports action with over 10,000,000 members and 1,000,000,000 of dollars in awarded winnings. Prize Picks has made daily fantasy sports accessible to all.

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Yeah. Yeah, man. London.

And Leon Edwards did the main event. Not.

Yeah. He does not have an opponent.

He doesn't have an opponent. Ian Gary, Leon Edwards, you get a nice deal. A striker's delight going down over 5 rounds at the ultra arena.

I'm there for it.

That makes all the sense in the world.

Yeah. And we were talking about last week, you know, coming into this fight, what what potential could be Leon's opponent. And I think we mentioned that maybe if somebody comes out of this fight and they're okay and, you know, they had a decent performance and they're not too banged up that it could make sense. And we talked Sean Brady before him how, you know, a guy like Leon coming off the lost city's coming off to blah. He's not going to want that fight, but in Ian Gary, quite somebody that's willing to stand and trade with him.

I'll tell you what though. I'll tell you what, I agree that the fans are gonna get into it, but that is a fight that also could be a snoozer to be completely.

Oh, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah.

I'm telling you.

Counter strike versus counter strike.

Exactly. You know what I'm talking about. Now if these guys actually couldn't trade it

I ain't kidding on Leon, bro.

No. I'm not and and I'm not they're both incredible athletes, but it's a matchup that could be a whole lot of waiting. It It could be a whole lot of waiting. But I do think it makes sense, and I think in that market, I mean, you're gonna you're gonna fill that place up. So, I mean, you're gonna fill that place up no matter what.

The fights are in London. People are going. You they probably don't even need to know who the main event is, but you throw Leon and then you throw, you know, Ian Machado Gary in there. It's let's go.

We're gonna go through the rest of the fights in just a moment, but there was a big news story last week. Now I live in the US, and I love living here. Okay? I have a great life. And anytime I give an opinion, people don't like it.

You know, like, we'll go back to England. Said, no, I don't want to. I live a very good life here. Thank you very much. But the healthcare system is kinda screwed up, right?

It's very, very good. It's a great system, but it's ridiculously expensive. I pay over $4,000 a month for my health insurance, and still a lot of the time when I need stuff done, like my last neck surgery, initially denied. Okay? So there's a lot of frustration.

A lot of people have to start GoFundMe's to pay for cancer treatments. People have to sell their houses. People go bankrupt when somebody gets sick. Right? Which means that's the part that frustrates me because the largest economy on planet earth, it doesn't need to be that way.

This is a segue if you hadn't noticed into, Harrington, I'll let you give us the meats and potatoes of it, but they caught the guy, by the way. But but it's don't bury the lead.

Yeah. Breaking news update. Like you said, Wednesday, there was a brazen, broad daylight shooting of, UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, outside of a hotel where he was going in for an investors meeting early in the morning. The shooter then apparently hopped on a bicycle, went to Central Park, disappeared, left his backpack behind, which was, found to have monopoly money in it. And then, yeah, he was just gone.

There was no trace of him, all weekend. Today, though, it appears there was a guy who was, riding on a Greyhound, through Pennsylvania. They stopped at a, they they stopped at some roadside place. He went into the McDonald's. 1 of the McDonald's employees recognized him, called the police, and he has since been taken in for questioning.

So first of all, though, because I saw initially on TV that people were maybe they had the hypothesis that this was a professional hitman and that he went into a Starbucks. He was caught on camera there. They had pictures of his face because he initially had a mask on, then he had pictures of his face without a mask. They they got copies of his saliva through a coffee cup. He was just making dumb mistakes all over the place.

And I was watching this, and I was like, there's no way this is a professional hitman. Not that I have ever been or I've ever run into a professional hitman, but there's too many mistakes being made. And then on the bullies, they had deny, depose.

Yeah. What was what was it? Delay

denied. They denied the claim, delayed the claim. They need to depose them for being crooks. I don't know. Something like that.

This was clearly a personal, attack if you ask me.

Yeah. It was it was on the bullets. Right? Wasn't it on the bullet? That's insane.

I have seen some chatter on the tinfoil side of the Internet. I've seen different faces.

The the clothes don't all match and Oh, that's that's

that's, that's just bad camera resolution. If you look at, like, the actual pictures like that, it's legit. The the jacket and the hoodie are the same. But, the thing I'm talking about is, like, he has, like, college connections and and, like, work history connections that point to him being a a glow boy of some sort, like a CIA asset. That that's that's what I was talking about.

Yeah. I was just reading earlier that he yeah. I know he went to an Ivy school, and he has some kind of hatred for corporate America. Man. And it's crazy because when you look at the comment section, we gotta remember.

Right? So what I said

I read some comments myself. My wife is like, hey. Read the comments.

It's insane. It's and the reason what I'm gonna say is insane. I said what I said about the state of health care here, which is a great product, but a lot of people don't have access to it all. And sometimes people go into financial ruin because of the way that it's structured. However, you know, businesses, and I don't agree with it.

And I'm the biggest cheerleader for it. And I'll just give you an example for anyone that's in the UK or outside of America, or even for people in the US that don't understand what I'm bitching about. Now I'm gonna get out in a cold sore. You guys call it herpes, by the way. Why do you do that?

Because it's just because the germ cold sore.

Yeah. It's it's a different it's not the same as, like, getting genital herpes or anything like that, but I

think that

yeah. I know. I think that the I think that the virus itself is similar to, yeah.

Herpes herpes simplex or whatever, but it's a different strain, and it's on your lip instead of on your dick. And I'm like, cold sore. Thank you very much.

Please. Have

have gone for quite some time. But anyway, if you get 1 here, you've got to go to the doctor. So then you're gonna pay your co payment of $65 then you've got to get the prescription. Then you got to go down there and you pay through your insurance. In the UK, you just go into a pharmacy, £4, grab some of the, because it's so easy to get there.

I've got like 20 tubes in my top drawer in my bathroom. Here, you gotta go through the insurance. And I got a copy of the paperwork. The insurance company is billing that $950 for the cream that I buy for £4. Right?

This is the entire system is corrupt. Okay?

Yeah. 100%. Yeah.

So anyway, anyway, with that said, we're still talking about a human being. We're still talking about a husband and a father. We're still talking about someone where we've got the footage where the guy walks up behind him and blows his bloody brains out, kills him. And people are celebrating it all over the place.

He's Batman. Yeah.

No. No. But like he's Satan. Like he's a bad like he's like, oh, you know? And it's it's just an interesting observation into modern society that somebody dies like that.

And people are kind of

injured. It shows the frustration, shows the frustration, Robert, you read the comment section of that. And it just shows where the American people in particular are at with these mega companies and these people that are running these, you know, healthcare businesses and just kind of everybody over. And, yeah, this guy's just a CEO, and again, you know, has his own life and his own, but that's how mad people are and pissed off and frustrated. Sorry about that.

No, no, no. Brian, jump on, make your point, please. But, yeah, he makes, like, ridiculous money. He's a very, very wealthy guy, and I'm sure he's worked hard to get to that position. And he's not solely responsible for this system that we have.

However, he is at the helm of a company that's probably denied many people for life saving treatment. Anyway, Brian.

Yeah. I mean, you guys pretty much covered it. It's a he's a CEO of a company, but it's a publicly traded company. You know, he's not making all the decisions as a board. There's all these there's all these other things that go on.

But, you know, I understand why people are upset, but, also, like, you can't go around shooting people because you just, like, you can't go around shooting people. You have to do it in a in a better way.

Yeah. If we

start doing that with anything that we're frustrated over, we're gonna be we're gonna have a lot of issues

every day. I'm just trying to scroll here to find a few comments because my Instagram feed was full of it. And now, of course, I'm trying to do it live on the air, and I can't find a typical post. They're like, yeah. He's done with this 1 more.

We'll we'll send him more life hacks on how to live longer. In valid boring minutes later. I'll give

it flipping on double birds.

Here we go. Here we go. I got it. Official's name suspects in the CEO's killing. Right?

I knew it was only a matter of time before the algorithm gave me 1. Seems like there's a rat problem at that. McDonald's is the first top, our first comment. I would like a key takeaway from this. The police did nothing.

The mom was called by a McDonald's employee, raised the dump minimum wage free this man, billion billionaires are finally scared of the working class.

Yeah. See that. That's what I'm talking about. That that's where

this guy killed a serial killer. He should get a medal. This is what I mean. It's just like, listen, the health care businesses in my opinion, very, very crooked and corrupt, but lie. He's also probably not calling the shots.

He wasn't solely responsible. There is it's a publicly traded company. The shareholders of board of directors and so on and so forth. Ain't no way you have the guy. The dude was a methodical, and he's in McDonald's with a gun and the note of the 2 pit.

Yeah. So there's that as well. But, Brad, Hamilton, go on.

So I'm seeing on the TMZ post about it, Luigi getting blamed for Mario's crimes once again. Bro had an entire week to get out of the country, and he get caught at a McDonald's in Pennsylvania.

See, that that is that that's kinda crazy, though. You would think if I mean, if he's a deranged psychopath, he won't be thinking clearly. If it was a professional hit, man, I said, they'll never catch this guy blow the brains out. Get out of the country. Don't.

I really like this comment.

Go on, Harrington.

I demand this level of dedication to finding all murderers, not just the ones who killed billionaire CEOs.

Mhmm. See? See, that's a tremendous comment. And and and that is kind of the difference. Now granted, this was big news.

He was a kind of high profile person. They did have the the footage of him being shot. So it creates a big news story, but you're absolutely right. People get murdered every single day and, you know, not much is done about it. What was I gonna say?

I was gonna say with a good last point there. I was gonna say, good point. It's gone. Hamilton jumped in and took it from me. There's no CTE over here.

Say that. Oh, well. Well, there you go. I thought we'd bring that up as a it's a healthy discussion point. There's nothing else.

It it was crazy. It was crazy with the comments, though, for sure.

Is there anybody in your life that you don't have to say a name when you think about right now, if you could have them murdered, is there anyone that you would think that's I won't? Because I don't want it to, it's not, it's not, it may get the brains blown out. I'm I'm snapping those fingers

right now. There's, there's just, it's not somebody I want dead, but

tortured.

There's there's some issues with my daughter and some, some girls at school right now. And all I kept saying to Christine today was I C I, the fighter comes out of me in moments like that. Obviously I'm not, I can't do anything to, to little girls that are messing with my, my daughter in school and, and saying stupid things. But I immediately said to Christine, I was like, well, you better talk to the teacher, get that solved. I was like, cause I don't wanna have to break her dad's jaw.

This is like right where my mind went. So that's where I was at today. Cause I don't thought that poor guy may have done nothing. Might be the nicest guy in the world, but if he's, if, if he's, if he's anything like his kids that are talking to my daughter, then he deserves a punch in the teeth. And, they're messing with the wrong the wrong kid because daddy

isn't it? It's a classic guy always pick up.

I just wanna I just wanna break this guy's jaw. I don't wanna

get Remember when when Callum was 3 or 4, that was 20 years ago for me. You know what I mean? So I was the same way. I was like, you better get your shit together because I ain't gonna take it out on the kid, but I'm Yeah.

You. But Oh. I will I'll be sure.

Yeah. I'm going to bully you. I'm gonna make you feel the same way.

And I've seen this clown when Ashley was doing track last year, maybe 2 years ago, I saw this dad walking the track with you know, he had the Bluetooth earpiece in. He's just, of course, overweight, piece of shit, out of shape, walking around with the Bluetooth thing. It's like, oh, man. I could just I can I can feel the I don't know? Is it the right hand?

Is it the left? Is it an elbow, Michael? I don't know. I've been daydreaming

about it. Jump on signs of douchebaggery 101. Okay. Bluetooth headphones on as you're walking down the street. What else we got?

A man purse?

Oh, dude. Yeah. The the the little fanny purse.

The big the big 1. The

big 1. The I saw Jake Paul today on Instagram arriving at Mike Tyson's after party with a massive 1 strapped across to him. I'm like, you dress like a 12 year old.

I was just reminded of 1 as Harrington kit comes on the screen.

Go on. Having said hop hop backwards.

Backwards hat. Yeah.

Come on.

Oh, that's a backwards hat, though. A lot of people do. We can't. Yeah. You know,

having Hey. I walk around

with my hair tied

up that people be like, oh, man bun.

The man bun. Oh, that's a classic. It

is. Man bun.

The man bun. Anything to add, how are you?

Oh, anyone wearing Oakleys in 2024?

I got a buddy who wears Oakleys. Hold up. He's only my buddy.

Oh, really? What?

Unless unless I'm performing athletics

Alright. Fair enough.

Then I will wear them. But, yes, I do not walk around just purposely, like, oh, you know, oh, the especially the old school looking ones. Oh, that one's that are like this big.

That's another 1. If you wear Carhartts and you've never worked a day in your life, die in a fire.

That's This is a modern 1, driving a Tesla. Oh, okay.

Alright, Bryce.

Yeah. I know. Oh, 0, or according to Bryce Mitchell, wearing a seat belt. Yeah. Hey.

He there are some there's some merits to that argument. I'm just saying.

We gotta be able to escape.

No. You can't. But I'm sorry.

You gotta tuck and roll.

Listen. When it If you go off the side of a road and you're rolling down a hill, number 1, just use your physics alone, you're gonna go all over. You don't have free will and control over your body. Wind down the wind the window down and then time it perfect where the exit is not the ground and propel yourself out of there.

Hey, Michael. Through through Christ, all things are possible.

That's true.

That is correct. But what if you're you what what do you see about ladies and gentlemen? I'm Bryce. I love you, bro.

What if you approach the edge of the flatness and you're about to go over?

You're about to go over dead.

You're strapped in you're strapped into 1 of Elon Musk's demon machines, and he decides to just keep your seat belt buckled. You're trying to unbuckle it. Gotta go no buckle.

There is the argument for social Darwinism where it's

like, hey. There is

the argument for social Darwinism where it's just like, hey. If you don't wanna wear a seat belt, that's that's fine.

Yeah.

Yeah. No. Of course.

You'll get squared away.

Yeah. Had

never ever ever wore a seat belt. And 1 of my good mates, blankie, back home, he never wears a seat belt, and he's a mechanic. So he has because now there's cars. You know, they alarm when you don't wear the seatbelt. He has a thing that plugs in like a fake seatbelt, and it gets in the car and just plugs that in so he doesn't have to he's like, yeah.

I don't like seatbelts. I'm like, bro. The amount of the sales

you go through

What what

to not hear that sound other than just going

I heard in Italy, they make shirts where it looks like you have the seat belt on. So you get drive when you drive around, you don't get pulled over for a seat belt ticket.

We gotta we gotta send 1 of those to Bryce Mitchell as a as a I see. Congratulations gift.

When I used to go on a night out and I was, like, maybe driving to Liverpool or Manchester or whatever, and I just ironed a fresh shirt, I didn't like to put my seat belts on because it would iron my shirt. You know what I mean? I'm like, I ain't going out wearing a seat belt for an hour. And then when I get there, I'm looking like homeless. You know what I mean?

So

Hanging off.

It's all you gotta drive in your undershirt. You just hang

your shirt and left

seat. Yeah. You know? You hang it off. There's again, there are

the little hooks. You fucking Fashion tips with Brian. New segment coming in, And that leads us nicely into Bryce Mitchell knocking out Kron Gracie in the 3rd round. I think it was after Kron Gracie was pulling guard for the entirety of the fight. What was your opinion on that?

Oh, well, I mean, I was getting real pissed off. You know, we're, we're at a point in MMA where you don't need to do that. That's not how you win fights. You're just, even if you don't get finished, you're not winning. Like Bryce is a very smart grappler and yeah, you almost got them with an armbar, but you've gotta have other tools to find ways to win in mixed martial arts.

Nowadays, you can't just pull guard like that. And I I lost my shit when Bryce finally was just like, okay. Slammed him down, big elbow because honestly, I wanted to hear that post fight speech. To be completely honest with you, nothing against Karan Gracie, although I don't wanna see that shit in the UFC. You know what I mean?

You you if you're a good jujitsu guy, then work takedowns. Find a way to get into a good dominant position and and implement your dominance in grappling by being a good grappler and not just a guard puller. There's no room for that and Bryce Mitchell, I think, probably made sure that we won't see that again in the UFC.

Well, that's 3 losses in a runoff for Kron Gracie. I don't think we will see. I don't think Dana was particularly impressed. I don't think there's a lot of it's I don't wanna shit on the guy too much, but I didn't like it either. And I found it.

Am I weird to find it a little bit borderline disrespectful? Because I kinda do and like Ryan Hall, he's the guy that's a great guy, an incredible jujitsu. But to just be so truly 1 dimensional and to just roll them in ari rolls or to just pull guard repeatedly, time after time after time, I do it kind of annoys me a bit. And am I wrong to feel that way?

Why? No. Because, listen, there are jujitsu high level tournaments nowadays where people want to go and see that they wanna see you start in a close position

and they wanna

see you grapple. Yeah. They wanna see you go for leg locks. They wanna see you go and do crazy scrambles and rolls. And there is also a home for that in the UFC, but you've it's mixed martial arts.

You we are not a grappling tournament. We are not a professional grappling league. You are there to fight. You start on the feet for a reason because part of the sport is you engaging in striking. You should also know how to strike.

I have nothing against you clinching a guy, pushing him against the fence, trying to dirty box, look for take downs. If you're a good wrestler, I have no problem with you taking the fight to the ground the entire time, but you've got to learn ground and pound. You've got to learn to strike. You've got to learn to kickbox because that's the sport you're in. That would mean to me, it's almost the equivalent of us going to a grappling tournament.

Like what I elbowed them in the face. I TKI and why we're fighting. It's like, no, you're fighting jujitsu, just like in MMA. You've got to learn to do all aspects of it. If you expect to be taken seriously, not that you can't pull off a win.

Not that you can't find some spectacular submission, but come on. We're not that's not what people are paying to see. That's not what people are paying to see. They can go and see fight pass invitationals and, you know, all all the high level jujitsu tournaments that go over in Abu Dhabi and all that kind of stuff. This is not that.

And it's also not 1993. This is not Horace Gracie going in there with some kind of secret weapon. At this point now, all the all the moves are on YouTube. All the fights are on TV. You can study your opponent.

You can learn the defenses. You know, hoist Gracie had a secret weapon back in the day. He unveiled Brazilian jujitsu to the world and it became a martial arts staple, a global phenomenon. The Gracie name is a huge multimillion dollar corporation. But this isn't 1993.

It's 2024. And the well trained, well rounded athletes are going out there and destroying people like that. You can't come in. It's it's it's I was gonna say it's an embarrassment. I shouldn't that's probably too strong a word, but it kind of is.

To your point, Cesar Gracie put out a tweet directly after the fight.

Never. I good idea to pull guard in MMA like that, and he's absolutely right. The top position guy. And I and I was using you, Paul, as an example the other day. I was talking.

It was it was in the crowd. I think it was to Julianna Pena, it might have been, or somebody. And I was like, well, Paul Felder, Charles Oliveira. Charles Oliveira has got the most submission victories in the UFC. The most bonuses, a former champion is highly, highly decorated.

But if you do the homework and you know that you know how to close down the guard and do what you did to Charles Oliveira, it ain't gonna work.

Yeah. You're gonna eat elbows. And ultimately, that that's what happened. I mean, he went out bad because he pulled guard for 1 last time and it didn't work at that point in the fight. He should have just go for it on the feet a little bit or shoot a double leg, try to take him down a little bit more sensibly.

Don't just pull guard like that. Yeah. And you know, about the Gracie's and and back in the 9 like also back then, they were like you said, they were trying to prove a point that their style, that's when it was style versus style. There's Kaizen karate geezers guy wearing 1 boxing glove.

There's no wrestling.

Wrestlers. Yeah. It it was that's when that was cool. Right? We're trying to see what's the best martial arts.

So they were there to prove starting the UFC saying, we are the best way to win a fight. And now because of them and because of their style and of jujitsu, now that's you see so much crazy stuff on the ground. So it's almost like you're disrespecting for Martial

arts didn't exist. If anything, it was no holds barred. Vale 2 yo is what it was also referred to. Human cockfighting, if you wanna really go down. You know?

Yeah. The the those terms didn't exist. MMA as a sport was not even founded then, But that's what he's doing. He's using this style that is so 1 dimensional. Bryce was great.

Yes. Of course, he came close to an arm bar in round 2. But then again, when Bryce passed guard, almost finished him there, it looked like looked like it looked like he didn't even really wanna be there. And that might be a little bit too harsh, but I didn't see the fire. Like, because Bryce joined us last week, of course.

And he was like, listen, Kron's dangerous. And he's right. When he fought Club Swanson, he was swinging for the fences. There was none of that this time. It was No.

Purely reliant on the guard. And then and then the stoppage from Bryce, beautiful. First return after getting knocked out against Josh Emmer to get the 1st knockout in his own career. And it's beautiful. Here it is.

God's forgot again. Who's that? Who else did that in the UFC? Exactly like that.

Oh, we're just talking about that. While we're talking about, I'm gonna forget his name. George Levitt did it. Do you remember?

Against? The ghost of Eddie Wineland.

Yeah. No. Eddie Wineland? No, Matt. Matt,

Matt Wyman. There was a wine in there. There was a wine. There was a wine line. Wine line.

Wine man. I apologize.

Yeah. Yeah. Did you call did you call that? Were we on that together? Did we call that 1?

Was gone. Oh, or was it?

I think I I think I called that 1.

Yeah. There's so many phones.

They all

blow together at this point.

They they do. They do. It's hard.

The best is when we're we're doing research, and I'm like, who the hell is this guy?

Yeah. I know. I

don't know this guy. It's my voice on his fight.

I was in this fight. I was in this guy, and then I watched the tape, and I'm calling the fire.

Oh, yeah.

I get excited because I put all my notes into my phone, and I'm like, oh,

I I do know this guy.

I've got notes. Yeah. Well done, Bryce Mitchell. Good for him.

Doohoo Choi called him out on Instagram.

Who, Bryce?

Put up just a picture of the Earth, and he was like, April or May.

Oh. That's great. That's good. That's good. Well, we'll talk about that in a second.

We we we did skip the heavyweight fight.

Yeah.

I thought Alexander Volkov won. Let's start with that.

Yeah. I I think, I yeah. I did. I mean, when the when the horn sounded before and again, stats pop up and, you know, numbers, that doesn't tell the story of the fight because when when the fight was over, I thought the same thing. I thought he did enough in that match to win.

And, I think the attitude of Cyril Gahn also confirms what most people were thinking that, Volkov won that fight the way he wanted to just leave. He wanted to be out of there. He didn't think he won. And it just sucks because even Dana said to him, it's like, I can't I can't change the commission's ruling on that. You know what I mean?

I can only try to do right by you from here moving on and try to get you a good match up or get you paid or something like that. But it's still a loss on his record. It still halts his momentum technically. So I hate seeing that. But I mean, it was a competitive fight.

I but I thought Paul Gault won too.

It was an enjoyable fight, a fair play to both men. And I gotta say I respect Sigu Gault because he did seem like he felt like he knew in his heart that he hadn't won. So he was like, all right, I'm done, I'll walk out. Just like Forrest Griffin versus T. Duarte's back in the day, Forrest Griffin did the same thing.

But,

He didn't come back though, did he? He straight up left, didn't he?

No, Forrest came back.

He said he

sent security for him. But here's here's the real confusion because I did, I have the whole video of Dana talking to Volkov after the fight. Yeah, sure. Play it. Yeah.

And he's right there. The whole arena did think that because the booze in the building were crazy. I was gonna say, so I did a review show when I got in. So we had the fights. I went to that steak house nightclub bloody thing, went to bed, got off, flew on a plane and then immediately walked through the door and did a review show.

So I hadn't looked online. I certainly haven't seen the judges scorecards. So when I was doing the review show, I assumed that the rounding contention was round 3. Because round 1, in my opinion, Cyril Gahan won it across the board. He got takedowns.

He had some control. Went for the submission when he was on top, which was a mistake. Round 2, Volkov hitting my head kicks, did the spinning back fist, kinda chased him down a little bit. I thought that was clear as day. And then I just assumed incorrectly that the rounding contention would have been the 3rd round Because Volkov was on top, and Cyril Gahan was going for a Kimura.

And then maybe the judge looked at him threatening the submission as a fight ending scenario. So they gave it to Cyril Gahan. And I said this on the show, and then live on the thing, they're like, no, Michael. No. It was round 2.

They gave Volkov. So they gave Silgan round 2. I don't understand that reasoning whatsoever.

Yeah. I agree with you. I thought I thought it was gonna come down to round 3 because even when we were sitting here with with, you know, my buddies, we had a 1 1 going into 3rd round, and it was a fun fight. So I was excited for the 3rd round because it I mean, this is it. And I think both those guys felt that knowing that they had to go out there and win the 3rd round.

And it was close because there was a submission attempt, but Volkov managed to get a lot of top control and a lot of, you know, control time at the end there. So I didn't really know how the judges were gonna go. I was leaning Volkov, but it didn't even matter. It didn't even really matter. It mattered for that second round, which I agreed that I had a 1 1.

It was a great fight, though. It was an enjoyable fight. It was

a good heavyweight fight, man, where we got to see everything. We saw wrestling. We saw good kicks, some spinning stuff, submission attempts. You don't often get to see all of that on display, in that heavyweight division. So I thought good on both those guys to be to be fair, for really being just well rounded athletic heavyweights.

And we're seeing more and more in that again, you know, obviously Jon Jones at top, Tom Aspinall looking to get his shot at that belt and, you know, Volkov looking stronger than ever too. Mhmm. Looking stronger than ever. I know he did a ton of strength and conditioning leading into that fight, and it showed.

I liked it because from Silgano, Shaw evolution from him, he was standing up well. He was using the underhook to good advantage. He, you know, hit some nice double legs. Brian, if you can, if it takes too long, don't worry about it. Look up the Schmoe's Instagram because I saw a video today of Chael Sonnen talking to the Schmoe.

And Chael was going on about how never in the history of the heavyweight division has there ever been people that can't wrestle, has there ever been a time where there have hasn't been representatives from the n c double a's? Oh, well done, Bry. Here we go.

In UFC history, and I mean never, you can start with Dan Severn, who handed it to Mark Coleman, who handed it to Randy Gator, who slipped to Kevin Randleman in there, who handed to Daniel Cormier. We have never had wrestling more underrepresented. We not only don't have an n c, double a, wrestler in the top 10. I'm not talking about an all American. I'm not talking about an Olympian.

We don't have a single n c, double a, wrestler under contract in the heavyweight division. It has never happened before. The highest achieving wrestler the heavyweight division has is Jon Jones who won the junior college national championship, which is a very good honor. Wrestling still dominates. And by the way, the 2nd highest ranking wrestler that we had was Stipe Miocic, who was a a participant at the NCAA tournament 197.

That was your world title fight. And before that, it was our Olympian, Daniel Cormier. Wrestling still rules the day, and they don't have a single 1 under contract. So to recognize any of those guy, hey. You're a way to go.

You did something good. Well, you did something good at a pretty easy time. We

No. I mean, does he have a point? Because he I mean, it's kind of I'm not talking bad about John or my mate, Tom. I would never do that, but he does bring up an interesting point.

Yeah. I didn't even think about that until he because, I mean, I'm not a wrestler. So I don't Yeah. I don't notice that there's no I, you know, I enjoy when there's no double the NCAA wrestling people in the divisions, because especially if they were in my division, but unfortunately, lightweight always had plenty of wrestling monsters. But, yeah, I didn't even think about that, that there really isn't anybody that's a standout.

What what? Yeah. What was even Curtis Blades? I know he's 1 of our big wrestlers in the division. What was his stats on,

Yeah. I don't know. You would have to have to ask somebody like a child sonnen because like,

I don't know. I don't

follow amateur wrestling on the NCAA level. Okay? Yeah. I don't wanna hear about wrestling even when I'm getting ready for a fight. Okay?

I'm like I'm like, you know, like Cormier who's watching it 24 hours a day when you're on the road with him sometimes? I can't. The guy ingests more wrestling than anybody I can think of. The other than maybe Jeff.

He's there sometimes before a fight night's about to start, and he's watching the NCAA on his phone or at a beautiful steak house where there might be a nightclub going on in the background. He's watching wrestling on the phone. I

looked up Curtis Blades. He went undefeated, his senior year in high school, 44 and o. He went to NIU and became, the school leader, only to sell wrestling. He's finished undefeated and also having the most takedowns in school history.

Okay. Okay. Is that a good school though? And are you is it n c double a?

It's n c double a, but it's not particularly like, it's not a wrestling powerhouse.

So are you saying that chale's full of shit and is giving out misinformation to the small?

Well, I mean, that's that could be about literally any topic, but in this particular instance, I don't think so.

Chale would never just say something sometimes that aren't incorrect.

No. He fact he fact checks everything. He fact checks everything for sure.

With an AI, database. Alright. How much? And what should we talk about here? We've been going for an hour 20 minutes now, Paul.

So maybe there's a couple of news topics that we gotta get to. Of course, Du Ho Choi looks incredible.

Oh my God.

Now and get to some of the, some of the talking points maybe came out of the weekend. Du Ho Choi looks incredible. He was too fast, too quick, too slate, too good, too skilled. The foot sweeps, the finish, the crucifix. I mean, he looked amazing.

Yeah. He's he's on another level that time. He took some time to, to get, to get better, man. And he looked big. He looked strong.

He was wrestling well. His jujitsu was on point and he didn't have to do any of that. If he wanted to just stand and trade, he could have done that, but he was smart. He knew that Nate Landwehr's only chance in that fight, especially as it kept going, was to give him a lucky shot because Nate's as tough as they come. He's not gonna go anywhere.

He's gonna try to fight, but the pace that he was putting on Nate Landwehr even wore out him and he's known for just having an endless tank. And you saw him between rounds. He was just hurting from the control that

Yeah.

Duo joy was putting on him.

No. It was a great night. It was a great night of fights as well. And congrats to all the people that competed and, of course, to all the winners. Harrington, I was just gonna ask you for an MMA news story there.

Okay. Well, the best 1, the best 1 involves is like we're trying to I ain't trying to start beef. Because Jamal Hill is not someone you wanna have beef with because he's gonna he's gonna come for you. He was a he was a few seats down for me on Saturday, and I I off expected a piss with what the world,

you know,

because he's even doing it to Alex Pereira. Play that video, please, Brian, and how to give a bit of breakdown, please.

Okay. Well, Jamal Hill showed up to the, UFC PI. He started talking a bit back and forth, through Pereira's translator. Apparently, the the exchange went something along the lines of, you know, Jamal Hill coming up talking, and his translator came back to him and said, oh, Alex thinks you must still be asleep from from UFC 300 to be coming in here like this. He started jawing some more back to the translator.

Pereira didn't wanna hear it, threw down some gloves, and said, you know, like, let's go handle this in the cage. Jamal Hill informed Pereira that they get paid to fight, and since no 1 is paying them, he would not accept the invitation.

Yeah. We spoke about this. It it's there's Pereira throwing down the gloves. Jamal's walking down very casually with a a rash guard on a long sleeve rash guard, which I I'm never a fan of that look.

No. Never never wore a long sleeve rash guard.

Never. Guys, if you're in this world, never wear a long sleeve rash guard. He's got a little towel around the waist, and there's Pravarro standing his ground. You know, he's just holding onto the towel. They showed Jamal on the screen on Saturday night.

And whilst he showed me and I didn't get much of a pop, they showed Jamal and the booze man. The booze were coming in strong.

Yeah. Yeah. He, he's gotta just go full heel at this point. You know what I mean? I think that that's the move, and he's almost just leaning into it.

I think that's there's nothing wrong with that. I mean, they say no press is bad press. Right? It's all good. So people know who he is.

That's for damn sure. But again, he's got a fight. He's got a fight coming up. I think he, I know nothing. It didn't pop off too crazy, but again, he just he's gotta just try his best to forget about that situation until he's in front of it again, because all of this stuff is not gonna get him that fight unless he goes and beats Yuri Prochaska.

That needs to be his sole focus right now.

He does have to go full healed. That's what I did back in the day. I was universally hated. I was like, alright. You wanna hate me?

Hate this. Hate I'll give you something to hate on. And then in the end, you know, what a few people are, there's still a lot of dickheads online. Always. But that fight, Hamilton, that's 311.

Right? You said there's 3 fights announced on 311, but you never mentioned that 1. You put the top 3 fights, Islam versus Arman, Sarukian, Islam versus Arman, Sarukian, the Magomedov versus Marab and Hanato Moitana versus Binil Darious.

Yeah. Those were all

theory.

Yeah. Those were all announced this weekend. We had spoken previously about Yuri versus, Yuri versus Jamal on this card.

Got it. I'm not shaping up to be a bloody good fight card.

Yeah. It's gonna be good.

No. No. No. I'm gonna ask for you back on. Maybe, you know, Paul or maybe how much you knows what is the origin of this beef with Murad and Omar.

I know they're both in the same way class and I know they're gonna fire and the both competitors, but Omar claims that he never spoke anything bad. My Rob claims that he did. I saw some tweets the other day, but I could, I wasn't sure who was right or wrong. Do you know anything? Does Hammington know anything?

Brian know anything?

Speaker 3: As far as I know, he he's just mad at him for saying that, like he's ducking him or, you know, he doesn't want to fight him and he's trying to avoid him and things like that. I think that's what Omar was pissed about. And then that it's, it's become its own thing at this point. Yeah. I don't know I don't know where this deep seated beef between these 2 comes from, but,

yeah. I love this new Murab, though. This new Murab going off on everybody.

He and and And it's not the first time he's fought somebody in the crowd either, didn't he? No. Didn't he get into it? He went up into the stands at 1 point and confronted somebody.

What I'm saying is, you know, I'm not condoning that behavior as a representative of the UFC. But as a man that's gonna watch someone fight, I kinda like seeing that he kindaifies you up for it. You know, I saw what you call the jujitsu guy. They're like the master jujitsu guy speaks so well. He's always in the rash guard.

Oh, John Donahue. Donahue.

John Donahue. Yeah. Yeah. He's such a smart guy. He really is.

I saw a video the other day on Instagram, and it's so true. He said 99.9% of people watching a fight, a UFC pay per view, have no idea what they are watching. They don't understand the skill. They cannot appreciate it for 1 second. And he went on very, very eloquently, talking about that.

He said, but so how do you get people to care? How do you get them to be emotional and to like you and to dislike you? Basically, you cause a bit of drama, and you cause a bit of tension and beef. And then when the person that doesn't know anything about the fight game, doesn't know your own plot is from your triangles and stuff like that, knows who's winning from the outside, but doesn't know the finer details. They they pick a side.

And when there's emotion and there's drama, that's what gets them hooked. That's what gets them to part view part ways with the money to buy the pay per view, give up their Saturday nights and be so invested in the sport. And when you see somebody like Marab and Umar doing this stuff again, it does. That's what it taps into those those emotions.

Yeah. 100%. You've got a good point there. I mean, that that's why certain fights sell and certain fights don't it's because of the people and the air around the fight more so than it is the actual skill, because how many talented, amazing freaking fighters have there been where they just, nobody seems to care. They can't sell a pay per view.

They can't do this or that. And it has nothing to do with that. They're not a good fighter. It has to do with the actual casual person that wants to get invested on a Saturday night to go see a fight. They need more than just, oh, he's really good.

Like, oh, no. You should see his jujitsu. They're like, I don't even know what that is. So, I don't care.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, my clip

you show him a clip of that, trying to punch a dude in the crowd and then somebody else get into a fight and you're, you know, he's fighting this guy. That was part of that guy's team, and suddenly people are interested.

Oh, you showed them a clip of Sean Strickland that was also announced in conference, a long time rumored going down Australia, February 8th, I believe, or February 8th. Show him picture or a video of Sean Strickland, say the wild stuff that he says, that's gonna evoke an emotional response 1 way or the other. And it will this is the 2024 dictionary word of the year. Do you know what it is? No.

Brian O' Harrington, do you know and don't Google it. Do you know what the 2024 somebody's dictionary word of the year is? And I thought this was a terrible word.

Is it like Riz or some dumb shit like that?

No. The polarization. That's that's the 2024 word of the year. I'm like, what the hell's going on? Sean Strickland's got that nailed.

He he's he's way ahead of the curve on the polarization. Yeah.

Yeah. You, didn't want

to go down to Australia and Vidrick is down there. Are you calling that 1 poll? No, no, not

that I know. No, I don't think so. Are you?

I am. I'll be there.

Yeah. It's probably you DC

and I'm sure. We'd be, Oh, yes. Pay per view. Yeah. DC and Anna can always be there.

Any thoughts on that match apparently?

Nah, I mean, I like it. I, we knew it was going to go potentially to him. It did Hamza do enough to jump in, but I I don't mind that at all seeing those 2 fight again. It was super fun first time close fight. I don't blame Sean for not necessarily wanting to go down to Australia to do it, but, you know, maybe, maybe they sweeten the pot for him, and that's why he's willing to do it.

Brian, just see if you can find the tweet from Sean Strickland. I think Hamza posted something, like offensive towards Sean. It was a picture of him holding. He was

holding a golden AK 47 saying, where you at? And then tag the wrong Sean Strickland.

Yeah. Yeah. But then he posted a picture of him and Sean Strickland. And then Sean Strickland came back with a response on Twitter. I don't know if he's been deleted by now.

Did if you have it, Brian, it was it was quite the scathing, scathing response. That is so bad. I don't even wanna read it out. I don't wanna and I don't wanna misquote him. Let's be honest.

You know what I mean? But I don't wanna say what he's at.

Looking for right now.

No. You're good, buddy. Yeah. So you just jump on the screen. It's like, if you can't find it, you can't find it.

It doesn't really matter. You know the type of stuff he comes out with, but he's like dropping stuff about Chechens and

Oh, yeah.

Chechnya. All kinds of stuff. You know what I mean? If I ever find myself in Chastenia, I just don't wanna repeat that line, and you guess I gotta learn it. You know what I mean?

That's all.

So the the tweet I have, is from Sean Strickland yesterday at 12:50 PM. He says, I love how come shot will try to talk shit to me, but you're not a man. Character level dog shit. Crypto scams, hoard yourself out to the cadreals for cars, fled to the Middle East when the pimp hand got too strong. Stay in your lane, Swedish man.

Oh, mic drop. I mean, Sean is gone. Scorsed earth there.

There's another 1 here.

What's this 1? Zoomer in. Read it out, Bry.

Because I love how the world just overlooks this guy's past, builds a life in Sweden, goes and becomes best friends with an absolute monster who pretty much bought him like a w. Then when the leash got too tight, he fled to the Middle East. You should not be allowed in this country. You sold your soul to a terrorist dictator. You're not compatible with America.

Thank God we don't do drone strikes in that sick part of the sand pit. Sick of the UFC forgetting that it's an American company.

Jesus.

Oh, Charles Schickland's a good follow on Twitter.

Yeah. He he will say things. There's no doubt about that.

Who? Captain never fights in America?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's not for the faint heart attack. If you're easily offended, do not give him a follow-up.

Simple as that. Alright. We've taken up far too much of your time, Paul Felder. Now that you've got things to do, what what are your plans for the evening?

Go have dinner, walk the dogs, and, hang out with the kids.

What kind of dogs?

I have a a blue tick coonhound and a pug.

A blue tick coonhound?

Yeah. You can't What the

hell is 1 of them?

He is, like, black and, like, speckled white spots and just big floppy ears, probably a 100 pound just lazy ass.

So that medium sized dog?

He's pretty big. I mean, I would say he's slightly over medium sized. Yeah.

Yeah? Oh, sounds good. But he

is a he's lazy and he is food driven beyond belief. If you leave anything, anything where he can get it, and he's tall enough, he can get on the counter and, and do damage. And he has taken things off of that counter.

Well, our little Harry, if he wasn't already pathetic enough, he tore his ACL last week. Let's take it down the road.

That happens.

Toys ACL. They wanted 6 grand to do an operation. Fortunately, the vet was very nice. He was honest. He said, listen, if it was my dog, I'd just leave it.

He'll get over it. He'll be fine. He's hobbling around the place. He won't jump on the couch. He won't walk up the stairs.

You know, he's already pathetic. Now I've got to carry him everywhere as well. You know, but he's he's loving the attention. Anyway, sounds like a beautiful dog, but I'm gonna get another real dog soon. But we, we finished the show with a question.

So if you have 1, send it into bympod atgmail.com. Brian, what do we have this week?

1st question we got here is from a gentleman named

What's up, BYM pod? So I realized in order for me to get my question answered, I gotta kiss you guys' ass a little bit. So first thing I'm gonna say is that the BYM podcast is the best podcast out there. Nothing compares. Alright.

Question number 1. For walkout music, is there a time limit that the song has to be? Because, man, there's some good punk rock songs that'll get you hype, but they're only like a minute, minute and a half long. So, yeah, is there a time limit to how long a song has to be? 2nd, if a judging goes the wrong way and it's obvious that the other guy won, why doesn't the UFC just assume the rifle person won and disregard that loss, and just have them move on?

Also, I wanted to let you guys know if you guys ever need another co host, my name's Anthony as well. We're both bald. I think I fit in pretty well for a replacement of Anthony Smith. Let me know what you guys think. Love you guys' podcast.

Alright. Well, the next time I'm boom. When Paul fell to can't fill in, and

you got a

guy. MIA, I'm gonna hit up my other Anthony, Anthony Romero. Walk out music. No. There's no set time limit.

What do you use, Paula? Did you mix it up?

I mixed it up. I when for most of my career, I came out to, dropkick and did, shipping up to Boston was the song I used most. But then I started mixing songs together based on, you know, current mood. So the 1 song that was like 1 of my dad's favorite songs I would mix in and things like that. But, yeah, I didn't think about that.

If a song's too short though, because too long is not a problem because you have all the time in the world to get out to the octagon, but too short. Yeah. If it's it's only a minute, they might tell you, hey, you gotta find something different.

Well, blur song 2 is the shortest song that blur have done, and it is quite short. So but the DJ, I forget the name of the DJ that the UFC used, but he's very, very good. So So they obviously, they look at this and they'll remix it, rejig it or whatever. I always use Blur Song 2 for the most part, but I did have some others. I did have Clash London's Calling.

Somebody came. Somebody shot me a DM recently, or maybe it was a comment. Michael, given all of the controversy surrounding P Diddy, do you regret walking out at UFC 78 to P Diddy's come with me? It was it was a puff daddy did like a remix of Led Zeppelin. Do you know the 1 I'm talking about?

No. It's a bloody good song. Right.

It was on the goddamn side.

And that would come on on my iTunes back in the day, you know, on my iPad that don't exist anymore. And it come on my iPad, and I'd start running a bit more. And I'm like, I'm coming out to this. I'm coming out to this.

It's the riff from Cashmere by Led Zeppelin.

The 1. That is the 1. Cashmere with p d d d, oil in it, all pass ago. And then I did regret it. I'm like, no.

I don't. Yeah. Come on now. I probably should.

Couldn't know that day. Yeah. There's a whole the the the rabbit hole is getting

I was gonna go down and j d 1 as well, but, you know

Yeah. Saw

that. We'll leave that 1 there, boys and girls. Thank you all for watching the show, Paul. As always, pleasure, brother. The show would be nothing without you guys.

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