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This episode of I've Had It covers Republican Thomas Massie's eight articles of impeachment against Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, which accuse him of starting a war without authorization, defying congressional withdrawal orders, and killing people on boats near Venezuela. The hosts debate whether Donald Trump will protect or sacrifice Hegseth and react to Hegseth's defiant hearing remarks.

The conversation then turns to Democratic leadership, including Senator Blumenthal's refusal to back Chuck Schumer, the party's Florida loss, and former senator John Tester's advisory work for Palantir. Listeners hear the hosts' own opinions on each story, presented as their views rather than established facts.

In this episode Jennifer Welch, Josh Welch

The transcript of this episode on Massie's impeachment articles against Hegseth was made with the technology behind HappyScribe's free AI note taker.

Jennifer Welch00:00:00

All right, breaking news: Thomas Massie has introduced articles of impeachment against Pete Hegseth. So, Republican on Republican, you love to see it. Let's play the clip.

Speaker 200:00:12

Institutional government, to the great prejudice of the cause of law and justice, and to the manifest injury of the people of the United States of America. Wherefore, Secretary of Defense Peter Hegseth, by such conduct, has demonstrated that he will remain a threat to the Constitution if allowed to remain in office.

Jennifer Welch00:00:35

Josh, break this down for us.

Josh Welch00:00:37

So, he introduced 8 articles, and I'll just go through them briefly. The first is starting a war without proper statutory authorization. The second one was defying Congress's withdrawal order; they asked him to withdraw the troops, they refused. The third is running past the 60-day extension that they gave them to bring the troops back. The fourth is ignoring civil casualty laws. The fifth is extrajudicial killings, and this involves the 221 individuals on boats outside of Venezuela that were killed without authorization.

The sixth is suppressing free speech; you may remember Mark Kelly and others advised military officials not to follow or obey illegal orders. And the seventh is kidnapping a foreign leader; we remember that they seized and basically brought back, kidnapped, President Maduro from Venezuela. And the eighth is an unlawful war based on an airstrike in Yemen without Congress's authorization. So, they will have a vote on this by Wednesday. I think they need 217 votes to impeach him, and we'll see what happens.

Jennifer Welch00:01:45

I'm wondering if this allows Trump to get rid of his Hegseth problem. If he instructs little Moses Mike to say, "Do it, KO him," I wonder what the internal conversations are going to be. What do you suspect?

Josh Welch00:02:00

I would think that if Trump knew that he was going to be impeached, that he would allow Hegseth to resign, unless he wants to blame this on Hegseth and make him look like the villain. Go through the impeachment process, all of the ire is going to be at Hegseth, it's going to be taken away from Trump. So it's probably a tactic on his part. In any other world, if someone was going to be impeached and you knew they had the votes, you would tell that person to resign and put someone else in that you thought would be confirmed. Here with Trump, it's just the opposite because he wants Hegseth to catch the blame.

Jennifer Welch00:02:34

That, but I also can flip the other side of the coin to say he's going to double down on everything. Like, we know that he doubled down with the appointment of Stephen Miller as his chief of staff. He realized the American public repudiated him, repudiated his immigration policies. On 60 Minutes, he said, "We went too far with immigration," but yet his actions are to a point. Stephen Miller, so I could go either way on this. In the comment section, let us know what you think. Let us know, is Trump going to greenlight it? Because you know little Moses Mike is not going to be like, "Everybody vote your conscience," and you know, we know that it's going to be, "Hey boss, what do you want us to do?"

Josh Welch00:03:12

I think deep down, Trump is maybe a spy for the Democrats, and he's trying to turn every red state in the country blue because his actions show nothing else but contempt for his own conduct. I mean, he's helping the Democratic cause here.

Jennifer Welch00:03:28

All right, moving along. Hegseth was asked about his possible impeachment. Let's do a little check-in with low-tee Pete.

Speaker 400:03:37

Are things that will change the face of the world for a generation? We are very proud of the president's America First agenda, of our peace and strength posture. We know the world is a better and safer place as a result. And so if we want to litigate that, the success of those things, I'm happy to do it all day long. I couldn't be more proud.

Jennifer Welch00:03:59

All day long, baby. Let's go. Just hearings, impeachments, all day long. I'm with him on that.

Josh Welch00:04:05

He says, "If you want to litigate that," that's not quite what they want to litigate. They want to litigate these eight reasons that we talked about earlier, like killing 221 people on a fishing boat, for starters, or for strikes and starting wars without Congress's authorization, without any sort of statutory authorization, or kidnapping a president from another country. There are other things that they want to talk to you about other than that.

Jennifer Welch00:04:31

You know, every single time anybody from the Trump administration has been hauled up in front of Congress, we have Pam Bondi, who was just a complete nut, screaming at the top of her lungs, "The Dow is over 50,000," but she was completely indignant. Then we had Kash Patel in that hilarious exchange with Senator Kennedy about, "Why'd you get into bestiality?" Remember that? And so Pete Hegseth is going to come in there, and he's going to be indignant, and he's got all of these Trump officials act like they're 10 foot tall and bulletproof, and they just got a little taste on Tuesday.

You're not 10 foot tall and you're not bulletproof. So is this an appetizer to the main course that's coming when Garcia is going to be chairing oversight in the majority?

Josh Welch00:05:23

I think that shows itself just with DOJ and cases that actually go to court. In other words, all of these DOJ guys, all of these cabinet officials like Pete Hegseth, all of them, they just spew these one-liners that are just full of bullshit. They just say these things that aren't true. The problem is when you get into a place where you have to hold your right hand up and swear under oath, and facts matter, details matter, the truth matters. When you put them in that setting, their stories collapse, they fall apart, and you see that in their cases they bring forward.

And with DOJ, you see this whole narrative of calling someone this, or they did this, and then they go to court, they can't prove any of it. They can't. And so what he just talked about there, "Well, you know, I'll stand on that. We'll talk about that all day long," well, that's not going to fly in front of Congress when they've filed eight articles of impeachment. You can't just get up there and say this bullshit, just these little speeches they give, without having facts to support your position.

Jennifer Welch00:06:23

All right, let's do a little check-in with the Democrats. More bad news for Chuck Schumer. Another Democrat declines to endorse Schumer. Pop this up. Senator Blumenthal declines to endorse Schumer as the next Senate Majority Leader. These non-endorsements are stacking up, you guys. Blumenthal just told reporters, "We need a conversation about leadership going forward because we need new energy and new ideas."

This is the same thing I've heard from all of these senators, is, "We need a conversation about new leadership, we need new ideas." Furthermore, before Chris Murphy had his stroke, and Senator, we hope you're doing well, we hear you're at home and that you'll be back in the Senate next week. But I asked Chris Murphy on our weekend podcast, you know, this was before the election, if you win, if you actually take the Senate, we thought it was kind of a long shot. Now we have, you know, we have a lot of senators and several spares now, thank God.

Anyway, I asked him, "Would you endorse Schumer? Would you vote for him?" And he was very, he goes, "Look, I'm sure you've read the article. We have a fight club in the Senate, and there's a lot of independent-minded people." And I wonder, like, you know who'd be great? Elizabeth Warren.

Josh Welch00:07:40

Yeah.

Jennifer Welch00:07:40

Wouldn't she be great?

Josh Welch00:07:41

She'd be fantastic.

Jennifer Welch00:07:42

Yeah.

Josh Welch00:07:43

But with Senator Blumenthal, this isn't some member of the progressive left of the Democratic Party. This is a guy.

Jennifer Welch00:07:50

Establishment.

Josh Welch00:07:51

Yeah, this is an establishment guy. So for him to say this, I put this in a little bit different category than I would some of these.

Jennifer Welch00:07:57

Young blood.

Josh Welch00:07:58

Yeah, young blood Democrats. So that means something when he's not willing to say it, because he and Schumer have been there forever together.

Jennifer Welch00:08:05

Yeah, I think that they're probably going to have to have some serious, serious talks. And I understand, you know, Schumer wants to come in and he wants to be Senate Majority Leader. I think it's just abundantly obvious that's not going to happen. I will be shocked. And I trust AOC, I trust the young progressive flank, I trust Garcia and Raskin. They're so, we have such an incredible bench. We have so many incredible representatives in the Democratic Party that are stars.

Josh Welch00:08:36

Right.

Jennifer Welch00:08:37

And so I just, I think the one that is winnable here is getting Chuck removed and getting somebody in the Senate that will go full tilt, because that's what we need. And I think the progressive flank in the House will check Hakeem.

Josh Welch00:08:56

Well, you did see Jefferies come out with a very bold agenda, I think a day or two after this.

Jennifer Welch00:09:01

He's changing his tune a little bit.

Josh Welch00:09:03

Exactly, exactly.

Jennifer Welch00:09:04

He's changing his tune a little bit. He's starting to talk about taking them all on. He saw how bad it flopped when he was like, "Nobody wants to see us get even." He saw how bad that flopped. But, and here's the thing, I'm just going to say, I'm sick of that. I'm sick of, it's so unattractive to see a politician get on corporate media and say, "Well, nobody wants to see, nobody of the voters want us to get even." And we're all like, "What are you talking about? We want justice. Stop the criminals." And then he sees the backlash from that, and now he changes the story. If you ever wrote Khanna and AOC, Zoran Mamdani, Robert Garcia, these people come on our shows and they always are the same, whether they're talking to corporate media, to a podcaster, it doesn't matter.

But Hakeem has those different audiences.

Josh Welch00:09:44

And that's a tell.

Jennifer Welch00:09:45

It's a huge tell.

Josh Welch00:09:46

You've kind of made our case a little bit there.

Jennifer Welch00:09:48

I know. I don't want it to happen. I'm just being a realist. I'm just saying, as much as I don't want it to happen, I'm reading the tea leaves here, and I think he's going to be. But with the tea leaves for Chuckle's, it's not looking good when you got Blumenthal saying, I mean, that's not looking good at all. Okay, moving along. This is another bad thing for Chuckle's right here. There is new reporting on the Democrats' failure in Florida. Pop this up. MyGal Emma Vigeland is reporting, "Multiple sources, Democratic and Republican strategists, tell Swen24 that Nixon and Jolly would have won if the Democrats invested in Florida.

All of them agreed, left or right, that Dems would have won in Florida had the national powers that be put in more money and effort." And that is talking about, of course, our gal, Angie Nixon, who is an incredible talent in the Democratic Party. And I said the day after the election, I would never give Chuckle's for not investing in her. And so seeing that report right now, and in Emma's tweet, she cited the sources there below what I read. This is just, this is the problem.

And he didn't invest money in her because she's critical of Israel. He never endorsed Zoran Mamdani.

Josh Welch00:11:06

Right.

Jennifer Welch00:11:08

The senator from New York doesn't endorse the most popular Democratic politician we have right now. That is just an L. That is a miss. That is out of touch.

Josh Welch00:11:18

Yeah, and all of us were really, really upset about that the day after the election. It was maybe a two or three point.

Jennifer Welch00:11:24

She worked her ass off.

Josh Welch00:11:26

Race, and she worked her ass off. She had very little money, very little help from the national party. And it just, you know, how do you defend that if you're Chuck Schumer? How do you say that that wasn't a good call to go in and dump money on her? She would have won that race. And I don't think that they realized that we were going to move the needle 10 or 15 points and sometimes 20 points in some of these districts. And that's a shame. That's a shame. And I think Schumer kind of sealed his fate when he made that decision, in my opinion.

Jennifer Welch00:11:54

I agree. All right, Democrats, unfortunately, some of them are continuing to collaborate with fascists. Pop this up. Scoop, former Senator John Tester signs on with Palantir as tech firm draws scrutiny from new Congress. My agreement with Palantir is advisory in nature. It is not lobbying, Tester said. I think Palantir has got a good story to tell. And they need to tell it. This is the company owned by Peter Thiel. So this is what we're talking about.

The era of prostitution politics. John Tester should be collaborating with Democrats and pro-democracy companies to help build a super majority. And Steady's collaborating with Palantir, whose founder, Peter Thiel, wants to dismantle democracy. I mean, those are his words, not mine. He does not think democracy is compatible in the modern world.

Josh Welch00:12:48

Well, let's decipher what he means by Palantir has a good story to tell. The story they could tell is that we paid this former Democrat about $2 million probably to lobby on behalf of our company. That's the tea leaf here. That's the, you know, the writing on the wall is he's being paid a lot of money to have this position. And that's the problem with guys like him and other people. And I get it. You got to make a living. You got to go out and work. I understand all that. But don't feed us all this bullshit about Palantir. Has a good story to tell. The story to tell about Palantir is not good.

Jennifer Welch00:13:20

No.

Josh Welch00:13:20

At all. And so don't feed us that weak shit.

Jennifer Welch00:13:24

And it just shows this, that these tech oligarchs, they see the winds changing. And so now they're going to continue in the era of prostitution politics, and they're going to start buying up people. They said, "Oh, great. This guy used to be a Democrat. He can go, you know, glad hand with all the senators, and he can get them to come our way." And we need a full-blown resistance. These fascists aren't going anywhere. If we allow them to continue to incubate, they will come roaring back in such a manner that we can't fix it, that we won't have an election like we had last Tuesday that was glorious and beautiful.

And I'm hopeful that the tides turn in the Senate. And I believe Chuck Schumer does too much fascist collaboration for my taste. His donors cross over the Venn diagram with Trump's donors. It's just too much for me. It's unacceptable for me. So I think that's pretty revealing about the psyche of a lot of establishment Democrats and establishment politicians. So anyway, all right, that's all we have this episode.

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Republican Thomas Massie has brought articles of impeachment against Pete Hegseth.

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