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Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in.
We're over here reacting to all the waivers.
I need more tight ends. Jason, it's not fair.
We had, I mean, we're in a bunch of leagues and the Ollie Gordon Express took place.
Holy moly. I mean, every league I'm in, he's going for over 80 fab, which to me is insane. Look, it's tough out there in the streets and you want— well, let's say Dolphins running game.
You would if it was Achane out there, obviously. And we believe in Achane. Now, Ollie Gordon, he was a prolific—
not Achane.
He was a prolific collegiate running back. He's a 3-down kind of guy. All I'm saying is I was trying to think of like—
Also, what, a 7th round running back?
Well, let me ask you this.
If the pros loved him.
Well, okay. Was he 7th round?
Let me double check. Double check my work.
I remember he was definitely talked up and then fell.
6th round.
I apologize. 6th round. Much different. Let me ask you this though. If Breece Hall was out for the year and Braylon Allen is on the waiver wire for the Jets, Braylon Allen goes for more than 82, right?
Yeah.
I mean, he'd probably go right around there.
Now the problem, part of the— and Isaiah Davis will get work this week with the Jets. Part of the problem I think is not everybody is aligned on Ollie Gordon v. Jaylen Wright.
Correct.
And we are not 100% certain about that situation. Jaylen Wright was out with a foot injury, higher on the depth chart. Ollie Gordon, they talk well of him. I've always liked the film.
But that's the unknown.
That's why I'm not—
that's why on the show yesterday, I'm like, I'm not dropping 80 on a player on the worst offense. Well, second worst offense, New England. What up?
I think it is 100% because it's a season-ending injury bet.
I get it.
Like, I'm not saying it's worth 82. I didn't bid that. You know what I mean? Like, I had Achane. I bid 25. My bid was 25 in the league. I had Achane. I wasn't willing to go hard in the paint there for the Miami offense necessarily, but I'm just trying to think of the rest of the season. There's only a handful of not rostered players. Most of the backups are rostered. that aren't available out there, like the high prolific big time names that are, you know, the Emmitt Johnson, right?
Oh, sure.
Like, I mean, obviously if Ken Walker went out there, it went out and Emmitt Johnson's on waivers. That's a $100 fab dump.
That'd be a full fab dump. But it's like the guys where you, you feel confident that they would take over and that they would be very usable, like Brian Robinson. I mean, I don't know what his roster percentage is, but I have to imagine it's in the high 80s, low 90s.
Yeah, Brian Robinson would go for a ton. That's not an offense we love either. But he's not as good as—
It's better than the—
It's better than the Dolphins. You know who's not better than the Dolphins? You know who scored fewer points than the Dolphins?
Oh man, Brian Robinson's roster is way low.
The Patriots.
The Patriots are the only team that scored fewer points than the Dolphins this year.
You guys should pick up Brian Robinson. He's 33% rostered on Sleeper.
You guys being our listeners?
Yes.
Not just the 2 people you're sitting across from.
Certainly not us.
He's rostered in our league. Yeah.
So yeah, a lot of, you know, our chopped league, we had big money spent on Puka Nacua, which is a scary spend. He went for over $500, right?
Scary spend for chopped because anytime there, you know, it's like if you then don't get him this week and lose and are chopped, it was a bad buy. Yeah.
I mean, he's probably not playing this week, but another, Like in our chop league, a lot of players that went this week were players with long-term question marks like Malik Nabers. What's he worth in a chop league? Because what is he rest of season? He ended up going for $200 on a $1,000 budget.
Which double nines can take care of it.
Double nines. Yeah. Because he's 18 now.
Yeah.
Talking about McCarthy.
Oh, I didn't see that. Is that his number?
Oh yeah. You thought 9 was good. Just wait.
Yeah.
The second time.
Yeah. That's—
times 2.
That's wild. We have a trade-oriented show today. We're going to talk about some trade-for, trade-away players on today's episode. We'll preview the Thursday night game, jump into the mailbag as well. News to catch you up on. Let's start there.
News and notes from around the league.
Bears coach Ben Johnson said, we'll see how it plays out this week when asked about who will start at quarterback in week 4. The Bears play the Jets.
It has to be that way. You can't have Case Keenum perform the way that he did on a Monday night against the Philadelphia Eagles and just automatically throw secret Bagent man in there as your backup. You have to at least evaluate something.
Yeah. So this was not in the context of the potential return for Caleb because that's still weeks away.
Correct.
So yeah, if I, if I'm the Bears, there's no way I don't play Case Keenum this week. I would be shocked if that's not the decision.
And yeah, go ahead. I would say I would probably put Keenum out there, but the, the percentage chance that Case Keenum goes out for this game and it is the worst thing that you've ever seen.
Not, not impossible. Not impossible. And the Jets are, they're playing okay. Jalen McMillan on injured reserve for the Buccaneers.
This dude's body does not like football.
No.
So yeah, unfortunately.
He's flashed a few times when he's been on the field, but that's also been a few times.
Yeah. So Ted Hurst, he continues to get 70-plus percent of the snaps. I picked him up in League of Record. He, he'll get opportunities. We won't have Baker.
You traded him to me.
Did you click the button?
I'm about to.
I was wondering if you'd do that because you have too many tight ends.
Yes. So stupid.
Nobody's been outraged at the flop of that.
I need more tight ends.
Jason is trying to, he's trying to keep 4+ tight ends on his roster.
Our league, which nobody knew, apparently Andy might've known this. No one else in our league knew that we had roster limits. We've literally had the conversation before on the show that you shouldn't have limitations on transactions and who you could, like, to me, it's stupid. I'm going to bring it to a vote. It's dumb. But apparently I have found out that we do in our league of record. You can only have a maximum of 3 tight ends and I want more.
Honestly, I want 5 in today's NFL. I mean, so what is the trade happen?
I'm not.
Yeah. I, I, did you take it? So because I, I literally went to make a transaction and put a wide receiver in and it said, oh, I'm over the limit. I have 4 tight ends, which I mean, what was the trade? The trade was I needed to get rid of them. So I traded Darren Waller for $1 of fab and Ted Hurts, which, yeah, to your point of us putting a cap on how many you can have.
Who would you rather play this week?
Exactly.
Darren Waller by a billion.
Yeah. Darren Waller or Tyler Higbee.
I look, I have no problem with changing that rule. I just, it's been funny because it's been back-to-back weeks where you like you signed 3 tight ends or whatever. You talked about this last week and then you're like, oh, what, what happened?
I can't do it again.
Honestly, I assumed that the sleeper system would not let me pick up more than the limit. If the limit is 3, it wouldn't let me pick up a 4th.
I think that's, I think that's fair. And if we need to change it so you can stockpile your future tight ends.
There's so many out there I want.
The funniest part is I think 2 sets of your tight ends, aren't they like, well, I guess you got Higbee and Ferguson combo.
Yeah. Ferguson and Higbee.
You should get Parkinson too and just—
And Allen.
Don't tempt me with a good time.
Go full Rams. I mean, the NFL is not putting a limit on the Rams.
Right. Oh, okay.
Tell me I can't play 0-5 personnel. Come on. Oh, I love this.
I don't love this news though. Packers placing Jayden Reed on injured reserve. He tweeted 11 out. It looks like it's indefinite to season ending. We don't know for certain, but it's a neck injury. It was serious. And Jayden Reed, at least according to his Instagram, seems like he's not going to be here for the near term at all. It'll be interesting because we're going to talk about some players on today's trade segment that relate to the Green Bay situation. So we'll save it for then.
Hey, we all say stupid stuff sometimes.
Yeah, we do, Mike. That's a good point. You would know better than most.
I will. I was just letting you know, like, you don't have to say something stupid today.
I'm not going to say anything stupid.
Okay.
I'm going to say something tempered and—
We'll ask the people.
I'll say something stupid. Perfect. Yeah.
Dan Quinn said—
You're going to read Andy straight away.
If— don't take it personally. There's context to tradeaways. Jayden Daniels would be considered limited if it was a full practice today. I saw a picture of him. He's got a new sturdy left arm brace.
Oh yeah. Yeah. Something you could have been doing this whole time.
Rashad White dealing with a shoulder injury, receiving treatment for it. They signed Austin Ekeler. And then Jaylen Waddle is, quote, believed to be fine despite being seen in a walking boot on his right foot following the game.
Classic preventative walking boot.
Yeah. I mean, it didn't work out well for the Coker walking boot. Yeah. I guess it was a different injury. I don't know. But preventative walking boots, put them all in them. If that's the case, if we need to keep these feet safe.
Yeah. I mean, just armor up like these guys during the week living, you know, Does anyone have Monday through Saturday in full Ironman gear?
Business proposal for you guys.
Yeah.
Designer walking boots.
Oh, designer. Yeah. Oh, because when they're coming down like on game day and they're in their swag.
When you got the big one where it's like all these Velcro straps and you're like, yeah, that's ugly.
No, that's medical grade. That's not—
Nike, where are you at? Nike needs to put a swoosh on that.
No, not Nike. I just gave you the proposal.
Oh, I'm going to create my own brand.
We're sorry. You guys got to buy this.
Yes, we just patent pending.
You think of bedazzled? What are you thinking?
I mean, some of them.
Patent leather.
Yeah, we're icing them out for sure.
That would change my perspective. I was like, yeah, he looks hurt, but he looks cool. Jalen Waddle, I do. He's the only player where fine can correlate to already being hurt. So we'll see what happens there. The Waddle situation. He should be okay, but he's kind of a scary dude in terms of we haven't seen consistency from Waddle since the Tyreek Hill Miami year.
Right.
Even though we know how good he is, it's kind of a weird thing and he gets banged up. But okay. Any other news coming through? I do want to let people know we have some news on our site.
Yes, we do.
Like if you're an Ultimate Foot Clan member, for the first time ever, we have dynasty startup rankings available in season. And not only that, and they're frequently updated, they're used in our trade analyzer, which has dynasty-specific trade advice. But there's also a new option. And I'm so—
Oh, this is so cool. So happy about this. So amazing.
Because people want to know, and this has been the story of our show forever, that context matters. Your league mates, what your plan is in a dynasty league. Not all rankings are made equal. And so we now have an adjustable bar at the top of the dynasty rankings that you can drag from win now all the way to long term and everything in between. We have a balanced setting, a win now setting, and a long term setting. So it adjusts the rankings based on your actual goals as a dynasty team. So we've never had— we've always had dynasty startup rankings in the UDK Plus. In the Dynasty Pass during the offseason. They're now available year-round and you can drag that bar to adjust your plan. So if you're evaluating a trade and you want to look independently, you're going to see who we think are win-now players versus long-term assets. So super excited about that. That's all part of the Foot Clan. Just, we just added it in there yesterday. Team's been working on it with us and the rankings are up there. Jointhefoot.com if you want access to it. It is only a part of the Ultimate.
Because that's where the Dynasty Pass lives. That's where the season-long stuff is. So if you want to upgrade or you want to jump in there, super cool.
We talked about it a good bit on today's Dynasty pod and just gave you some examples so you can check that out.
Yeah, no, it's super helpful. Let's talk some trades.
Let's talk trades.
Well, this should be fun. And I'm open to full-on discussion around these players, disagreement, all of that stuff. 3 weeks in, good opportunity to kind of get a lay of the land. Players that might be outperforming, you know, a reasonable, you know, touchdown number or something to that nature. Guys that we are choosing as trade-for candidates and then players that we're choosing as trade-away candidates after 3 weeks. So, uh, Mike, why don't you kick it off with the trade for player that's on your list?
Sure. So the trade for, we're trying to find players that we believe are underperforming. And I would like to highlight Mr. George Pickens of the Dallas Cowboys because it's just the, the huge game hasn't happened. I mean, last week was much better. 11 targets, 7 for 82. Like that's a very usable game. We're happy about that. But the first couple of weeks it was, it was down even though the Cowboys are still putting up points. But you're looking at the like behind the scenes metrics. The numbers are actually very good for, for George Pickens. His target share, his targets per route run, his yards per route run. Those are all up compared to 3 weeks into the season for, for last year for the Dallas Cowboys. It's just that the production is lagging a little bit. You know, no touchdowns. George Pickens is going to start scoring touchdowns eventually. Like, it will bounce back. And so he just— the volume is, is still completely there for him. The schedule. I mean, the upcoming schedule is actually fantastic for him. Dallas faces— Dallas wide receivers as of right now face the 3rd easiest rest of season schedule.
That, of course, Rest of season is a little bit tricky right now because we only have 3 weeks of data. But the early outlook is it's going to be great for the Dallas passing game. And CeeDee Lamb, you're not going to be able to trade for CeeDee Lamb because he's been performing. But if you still want a piece of that Dallas passing offense, then George Pickens, I think you can get him cheaper than he is going to be in just a couple of weeks.
I think you can get him cheaper than what the perceived value of him was before the season too. I think, I think maybe there's been a tier change in people's minds. I don't mind the suggestion at all. I will say the only thing that I think has been definitive through 3 weeks that was a question in people's minds with the pick and selection was whether is CeeDee Lamb still the dude? Is he still that guy? Is he still elite? I think we've had that answer pretty definitively in 3 weeks that, you know, one of the concerns that I had around CeeDee Lamb as somebody who has him on his roster was that this team would kind of do with CeeDee Lamb what the Arizona Cardinals eventually did with Larry Fitzgerald, which is you had players that came in, John Brown, Steve Breaston. They became downfield threats and you saw underneath as kind of the prime, like you stopped, they stopped going deep to Larry after a while.
Sure.
My biggest worry was like, are we going to get all bombs go to Pickens and all underneath goes to Lamb? Lamb's had the downfield shots in multiple weeks. So I was happy to see that as a Lamb manager. But I think with the zero touchdown numbers, what jumps out and that's going to change.
And targets, CeeDee Lamb, 26, George Pickens, 25.
Yeah. I mean, it's really—
Everything is neck and neck between the two of them. Lamb has just been— George Pickens had a couple nasty drops. And then this past week, CeeDee Lamb had that, like the freebie reminiscent of championship week a couple years ago where the Cowboys are back on what they're Oh yeah, he almost had like a 98 touchdown. And he was a shoestring away from— but like that hit, that hit for CeeDee Lamb. That hasn't hit yet for George Pickens. And it's definitely going to.
I think Lamb has a couple touchdowns so far.
Yes.
And yeah, no, I, I think Pickens is— nothing on the field tells me Pickens isn't 1B.
I saw a tweet that was talking about the most missed opportunities so far in the league and who's basically underperforming. the expectation based on the opportunities they've received. And it was a list of a bunch of bad players, which makes sense. Like, oh, they've gotten opportunities, they've failed. And then there was George Pickens, who is not a bad player at all. And he was leading, you know, he's the largest gap. So I think this is a good trade for candidate. His good games are coming. He is not the archetype of an every week consistent player. At the end of the year, you're going to have a handful of bad games. Remember last year at the end of the year, It was unfortunate timing. I think it was fantasy playoffs or right before it was like he had a couple games in a row where, oh, he just disappeared. Oh, his effort is, you know, it's like he will have bad games and he will also probably finish the year as the wide receiver 15 or better. And so if he hasn't had those games yet, they're coming. I like, I like trading for him.
Last year he never had a 3-game stretch where he didn't have a 20-yard catch and that's how he started the year. He hasn't had the big play yet. So, you know, that's kind of wild. 3 games in, George Pickens doesn't have a 20-yard catch.
He's had tons of opportunities.
Oh yeah.
And he's also had a couple pass interference penalties.
Oh, George is amazing at getting him and Matthew Golden just drawing PIs.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, he's good at that. I think we all agree that Pickens is a nice target right now. You can get him at a value that will not be the same in a few weeks. So we'll take a quick break and come back with a couple more trade-for candidates, Jason and myself, and then we'll get into some tradeaways. All right. Coming back into our trade talk segment, Mike sharing George Pickens as his trade for candidate. And I am going to bring up Jeremiah Love. I think Jeremiah Love, the moment is now. The time is now. If you had the opportunity in years past to pick up Ezekiel Elliott in week 3 of his rookie season or Saquon Barkley or Christian McCaffrey, Bijan Robinson. This is your moment with Jeremiah Love. And so I think you would only have hesitation. This is a top 5 draft pick. This is one of the greatest, best graded running backs that we've seen heading into the NFL. And you're sitting here 3 weeks into the season and the breakout is coming. The big play is coming. And it's on an offense that's pretty darn good on a week-to-week basis. Like the Cardinals defense is like by every metric is terrible.
Yes.
They're going to be down in a ton of ball games. Jeremiah Love is the pass catching back. Jeremiah Love got 19. He had 19.4 fantasy points in 26 opportunities last week. You could argue that it happened. The usage breakdown that happened last week.
Which was, it was surprising the way that they handled the first 2 weeks.
Oh, this was like a concerted, like we just made this decision and it's happening.
Yeah. It felt like, oh boy, here we go. The Cardinals are just going to be as stupid as possible with their, with their draft pick. They paid Tyler Allgeier. Now just Jeremiah Love, you know, it seems like forever ago now. He did have the ankle injury in preseason. So perhaps that the plan was just a, hey, we're going to make sure he's healthy and ready to go. So usage, this usage spike in week 3, this should be sticky. Like for, for the top 5 draft pick, you got to, you have to do this.
I think there, I think there's some interesting trades that I know you could get done. I don't know if you would say yes or no to them, but I would be looking at like some of these players that maybe are out. Like, would you trade DeAndre Swift straight up for Jeremiah Love?
Yeah.
I would. So DeAndre Swift is the 6th running back right now in terms of fantasy output. So that trade on paper, I think you might be able to get done depending on the league that you're in. But, you know, would you trade Ashton Gentry for Jeremiah Love? That maybe is a bigger conversation. But I think it would be wise. I think that would be a smart one.
Man, that one's tough.
I have Gentry above, or I'm sorry, I have Jeremiah Love above both Swift and Gentry.
For rest of the season?
Yeah.
I don't think I would. I mean, I, you know, it's like the Cardinals offense might be good, but the Raiders offense might be good too.
Yeah. I think that that one's really, really close for sure. But if you could go take Kyren, Kyren is the name, and put other pieces with it.
I think Kyren is the, is the perfect name where I would move Kyren or Tootin to Jeremiah Love. I mean, You know, they're in good situations. They're good fantasy assets. They aren't some sort of generational talent. That's what Jeremiah Love is. So if you don't have an absolute top-tier fantasy back, if you've got a really good fantasy back, a low-end RB1, I think you try to take the chance that Jeremiah Love is a top 5 running back rest of season and, and, and trade for him. But I also view like That is what I think Ashton Gentry is as well.
Yeah, I think Love, I think your time is now to move on Jeremiah Love. And I think the Cardinals will be in a lot of games with the offense. We saw them move it. They put up 30 against San Francisco last week. They had a good week 1 against the Chargers. They slowed down against Seattle's defense. That's not too surprising.
I mean, Washington didn't, but no, everybody but Marcus Mariota, of course.
Yeah, I think that this is the moment for Jeremiah Love. If you can, if you can take advantage and maybe this last week doesn't let you do it, but that's my target.
Yeah, I'm going to go with a back that's in, I think, the same tier. I wouldn't trade him for Jeremiah Love, but I would trade for him because he is coming off of a down week. And that is Chase Brown. Chase Brown has gotten off to a decently slow start. He was running back 14, 22, 30. He's not been bad. But he's good. Yeah, but he hasn't been great yet. However, the opportunity is completely there. He's tied for 7th in routes run among running backs. He's 8th in targets. He's 9th in total opportunities. And the Bengals, for some reason, I don't know, they always every year get off to a slow start. This happened last year with Chase Brown with the Bengals. I mean, it happens every year. I think extremely bright days are coming for Chase Brown. What we know is he is the dude for this team.
Yes.
He is talented. He's getting all the work and this is an offense we want a part of. There's just been some weird outlier stuff. Here's, here's just some crazy thing that's just happenstance. It's just randomness. Cincinnati has 6 total snaps inside the 20-yard line in the last 2 weeks combined. That is 31st in the NFL. And for context, the NFL average, the average team gets 10 a game and they have 6 in the last 2 weeks combined. That's where fantasy points are scored. And so I just think he is one of these guys. It's like he's a top 10 fantasy running back and he, and you're not going to have to pay most top 10 fantasy running backs. You just can't acquire. You just can't like they're, People aren't willing to let go of them. I think right now you can make a trade for Chase Brown unless you're in the League of Record because I went to look for Chase Brown. He was on Mike's team.
Yeah, that's correct.
From your cold dead hands, I'm sure. Yeah. So, you know, to me, I think he is a great trade for candidate and I'll just throw out quickly 2 other names that I think the opportunity is beyond what the fantasy production has been Cam Skatteboe, who I just traded for in one league, and Josh Downs, who I just ironically traded away in League of Record. I think those 2 guys have—
Downs is like my favorite target right now.
Yeah.
So interesting. The opportunity ahead appears really, really good for both of those players too.
Yeah. I think, I think Josh Downs is about to cook. And I, Jason had sent some offers out. He's not, I'm playing for next year, acquiring to win. So he's shipping and shopping Josh Downs. And I was like, He wanted like a 3rd round pick in our league, our keeper league, but you can't trade above a 2nd and a 3rd is, it's pretty good. And I was like, man, I can't do that right now. But I bet you could get it. And I bet even in a couple of weeks, the value might go up if he stays healthy. But no, I love that one. Absolutely. Now let's talk about trade away players. Mike, why don't you kick us off?
All right. The player I'm looking to trade away, and this is not a, necessarily an overperformer where I'm like, I got to get out. It's Brock Purdy. And I only bring him up.
Oh, you did say you were going to say stupid stuff.
I don't mind this, actually.
Your argument for this guy is the same argument I'm going to have for my guy.
No.
Just so you understand.
Right. But my argument for Brock Purdy is that there are other teams who are desperate for quarterbacks. And they, I think they might have big eyes where like if you have, you know, we've brought it up, but Drake Maye, Herbert, or you have one of the injured guys, my recommendation for the most part would just be figure it out streaming off of the waiver wire because players are there. Matchups are there to be had. We have a weekly segment every single week, but that's not how everyone likes to play fantasy football. Some people just want to have their stud quarterback. And I think that you can trade Brock Purdy, get a bunch, and then you can still be okay at the quarterback position. That's, that's where I think he truly is overperforming.
He's not, he's not going to be the number 2 quarterback rest of season. Let's put it that way. I do like, he's not with the amount of injuries they have at the wide receiver position.
Brock Purdy is an easy, to me, an easy top 10 guy. Top 5 is not outrageous to me. I like, I really like Brock Purdy. I just think that this is a good strategic move. with what has happened to the quarterback landscape, fix the rest of your roster for a position that you can more easily replace off of the waiver wire.
I just don't know if people— like, we see Brock Purdy as an elite quarterback. He is great. I don't think most people do. I mean, you look at where he was in drafts before the season. I'm not sure people are going to pay up. Like, In general, what you're saying, I agree with. He's the quarterback 2. He's not going to finish as a quarterback 2. He's got injuries around him.
He's far more expendable to me.
I agree with that. I just don't know that—
Trey Mayes' manager might want him.
Anybody is paying number 2 quarterback prices for Brock Purdy. Also, it's worth noting they got positive news with Trent Williams. When Trent Williams, their all-generational left tackle, went down, I was like, oh, trade away these guys. He had a neck stinger. It was checked out. It's not serious. He should be back. But at the same time, he's dealt with that a few times. He's missed games for that before. So that would be very scary amid, you know, all of their injuries.
I mean, they don't have any wide receivers left if Mike Evans does not get back and get healthy. At some point that does come to call. You're not going to get the same plays out of Jordan Watkins that you're going to get out of Mike Evans. And so I'm just agreeing with you that like, I think Purdy's going to be fantastic. Like Kittle's there.
Yeah.
And Deebo's there who caught zero passes this last week.
How dare you?
But he had 80 receiving yards. Yeah. Purdy's the only quarterback in the NFL that has not been sacked one time.
He's a, he is a very good quarterback and you could be right, Jay, that the value name-wise, he doesn't, he's not Lamar. He's not one of those type of players. But get into the negotiations. Show the, show the fantasy points. I don't know. I feel like you can sell Brock Purdy and be all right.
I, the name that Mike says is stupid to bring up in this segment is, I get both sides of that, is currently the wide receiver 4 in fantasy. And Mike, of course, is going to take this personally because this is Mike's my guy.
Because I said draft him. He's going to be awesome.
And he's been awesome.
So trade him away.
So Christian Watson is— look, trading in fantasy is all about value. It's about what do you get for the player? And do I believe that Christian Watson is going to score 23 touchdowns?
Oh no.
Do you?
I don't think so. No, no, no, no. He's on pace for 23 touchdowns. Do I think he passes 1,600 receiving yards?
Maybe.
I don't think that's going to happen. Near 100 catches. I don't think that's going to happen. Now it could. My point with the tradeaway candidate of Christian Watson is not you trade at all costs. It's the same argument you just made with Brock Purdy. It is trade if you have the opportunity to take advantage of where he's positioned. He has 4 touchdowns through 3 weeks. You have a team that has not been able to run the football that would like the identity of this team to be able to run the football. I think they signed 2 different offensive linemen this week. We'll see what happens with Josh Jacobs. I think Watson, is he the number 4 overall receiver at the end of the year? I think there's no chance of that. Is he top 10? Probably. But if I can go out and I can turn Christian Watson into Chris Olave in a trade, if I can turn Christian Watson into Garrett Wilson in a trade, those are situations and I can get, I might even get a little bit more depending on the names that you pick there. That's something I'm going to look into because I think he's He's the inverse of Pickens right now.
Like Pickens has no touchdowns. Like from a—
he is overproducing.
For a target perspective, like you look at the top players in fantasy right now, target-wise, 36 for JSN, 35 for Amon-Ra St. Brown, 36 for Chris Olave. Watson's at 29. It's not a bad number. Golden has more targets than he does on the season. So, you know, and Golden has 1 touchdown. Like from a, you know, statistical standpoint, they're pretty comparable. He's just scored 4 times and he's going to score a lot of touchdowns. He's probably going to be a 10-touchdown guy. I don't think he's a 23-touchdown guy. So I, I'm just saying you may be able to take advantage of this window where everyone's bought in. He is an injury risk. He just is.
Yeah.
That's just the nature of Christian Watson. If I could get out of Christian Watson for a less injury risk player, Maybe Olave is not the answer to that question, but he could, he could currently be injured.
Like that.
They're practicing.
I was just, I was pulling up the Packers practice report. I'm going to be surprised if I see full participant this week for Christian Watson. And hopefully he is. We, I think Mike mentioned it at the end of yesterday's show, but it was like the last play of the game. He kind of looked like he pulled his hammy a little, but it was, it was Not reported. You know, who knows? Maybe it's absolutely nothing. We just are always worried about Christian Watson's hamstrings. I love Christian Watson. He looks like he's going to be the clear wide receiver 1 for a team that can pass the ball. He is always good for fantasy points when he's on the field. I want him on my team. If I had him on my team, I would be Trying to trade high because it's not, you know, Mike, you loved where he was in the draft. You thought he was going to be great. He's been great. He's been a great pick. He, you know, succeed on your my guy. If you then trade him at the value that he deserves, if you're trading him at a top tier value, it's, it's a guaranteed win.
Your draft pick was a great pick no matter what, even if he, even if he does well.
And can I just, I'll just like jackknife a trade for candidate in there. I think I think Matthew Golden is a trade for candidate. I totally agree. I mean, if you look, if you look at the numbers outside of touchdowns exclusively, they're almost identical seasons for these 2 players. 17 catches on 29 targets for Watson for 284 yards, 15 catches on 30 targets for 253 yards for Golden. They're very similar production. They're being used in similar ways down the field. Their yards per catch, 16.9 for Golden, 16.7 for Watson. Go trade for Golden if people don't buy in. They were burned all rookie year.
I think is a great one because Watson is— we're soaring with the Eagles.
Yes.
With Christian Watson. People may not realize how close Matthew Golden is. And like the target share is going to be split. Now you have Jayden Reed probably out for the year. Like, yeah, Skyy Moore. Yes. So now it's Skyy Moore as the slot wide receiver. Yeah, it's crazy. That concerns me even less than Jayden Reed when it comes to a target competition. The, where I am at with—
I think the touchdowns may start to— sorry, to just say like Tucker Kraft getting acclimated to the offense. That could be where some touchdowns end up.
It's the, where it's difficult for me is like, if you guys want to look at your rest of season, like I have Watson right now at wide receiver 10 rest of year. So it's like, there's not a—
Not a lot of room.
There's not a lot of room. Olave, maybe. No, I mean, definitely I'd prefer Olave. I don't know if you'd be able to Would you trade Watson for Nico Collins? No. No, I would not.
So I have Nico one spot higher in rest of season rankings. Would you trade Davante Adams? Would you trade him for Davante Adams?
I would prefer Christian Watson.
Jefferson?
Jefferson is the— that was the name I was going to bring up where it's like, it sounds insane at the— would you even bring up the discussion? But just truly think about it. Like where this— where the Minnesota Vikings are, we still have no evidence of Kyler Murray being able to get it done for, for Justin Jefferson. We know how bad it can go for Jefferson if they don't have proper quarterback play.
Yeah. The second week for Jefferson was not good with no proper quarterback play. Would you trade if somebody sent you an offer right now, Mike? Do you have Christian Watson anywhere?
In a couple spots. Yeah.
Somebody sent you an offer for Puka Nacua. Oh man.
You would have to take it.
I mean, you would probably want to take it, but you could find out tomorrow he's having surgery. I, I thought that was maybe the most agonizing question I could ask. Holy moly.
Puka is— What do you even do with Puka? Because I don't know, because Puka could go out this week.
Or he could play this week.
That's what I mean. I mean, he could play this week and you're like, okay, everything is in the mirror.
64 targets.
Puka is still great for the Raiders.
Not a crazy question.
All right. Let's say now let's make Puka the tradeaway risk. Would you, if you had Puka, Would you trade him away right now for Parker Washington?
No.
I was looking at that in my recipe. These are the kind of soundbites that come back on Twitter in 6 weeks.
I have Parker at 11.
I got Parker at 7.
So dude, I have Parker at 7 as well.
Behind Puka by 1.
Same.
Yeah. I mean, would you trade Puka for Zay Flowers?
Mike?
I feel like Puka, the answer to this question, if you have Puka, hold him. If he's somewhere else, don't trade for him. I feel like that's the recipe for Puka right now.
How much risk do you want to take? Flowers has his own hamstring risk.
Puka could win you the year.
Yeah. And that's the thing is that like to win a championship, you usually need— I was talking about this with Andy this morning. So in our main dynasty league where Mike is the champion there as well. He has a sensational team. I've got a very, very good team. I lost 2 of my 3 running backs, but I was— I look at my team and I've got a lot of really good players. I've got Olave and I've got London, Rashee Rice, DeVonta Smith, but I don't have the, like, the guys that are going to go out there and put up 30 points in back-to-back weeks in the playoffs, like a Ja'Marr Chase, a JSN, Kyle Pitts, a Puka.
I just remembered last year's playoffs.
I'm sorry.
But it's like those players. Players when it comes like, I'm going to make the playoffs great. But once you're there, do you have those nuclear players? You need a Josh Allen or Jahmyr Gibbs or JSN or a Brock Bowers or Trey McBride. Like you have to have some of those guys. And so trading Puka is such a trade for trade away conundrum because right now he's your biggest bet in either direction. Yeah. And honestly, if you sometimes when you're playing fantasy, you got to think about just And there is not much higher upside than Puka. And if you could trade for Puka right now and then it turns out he doesn't get surgery, people are afraid of surgery and you turn Christian Watson into Puka, that, that could be a championship type of move. But it is a gamble.
I disagree with one of the guys you said, or I mean, that too. Because, but Olave, I think Olave can be a guy who like he could just—
That's who I told you this morning. That was the one name. I think he's a— he's so high on my rest of season rankings.
Yeah. He's at number 4 for me. 5 right now for me is Drake London. Like Michael Penix, Michael Penix, Drake London games equals fantasy domination. Like you can, you can look at Michael Penix and he'll, the end of the stat line for Michael Penix is not going to be great for him to be a fantasy quarterback.
But all he does is throw it to Drake London.
PSA to sucky quarterbacks, throw it to the really good guys every play you can and it works out way better than you think.
Yep. So I'm with Drake London. As long as it stays Michael Penix, which that's a—
it wasn't—
who knows? It wasn't Keenum that was in Houston that just hyper chucked it at Hopkins, was it?
I'm trying to remember when they did Osweiler.
Oh, maybe it was Osweiler.
Oh, Brock. Yeah.
Was it Osweiler? Because Keenum played in Houston, right?
I think so.
I mean, Keenum's had 16 careers, but TJ Yates, maybe. I don't know. Jason, you got to give us a tradeaway candidate. It comes from the same team as Mike's.
Yeah, it's another 49er. I mean, obviously the injury— Last man standing. Last man standing. But honestly, it works almost in his favor. The injury issues and worries about Mike Evans says that the last guy there is Deebo Samuel, who has been good. He's a man. It took you too long to get there.
I know. I know.
I see.
How did he not get a target last week?
Well, see, this is—
he was already the last man standing. How did he not get a target?
It lends itself to Jason's argument. I'm not sure. I think Deebo's current abilities are all gadgetry.
Oh, 100%.
And not wide receiver-y.
Basically 50% of his routes this year are running back routes. There you go. They're screens, flats, backfield. I mean, he is. His average depth of target is 3.4 yards.
Which defense against position do you look at for Brock Purdy? For— oh, right.
To stop him.
Is it like, do you look at the wide receiver? Do you look at the running backs? Right.
The matchup. You know, it's one of those things where there are teams that have lost a lot of players. Wide receiver, you know, go look at the Jefferson, the Mike Evans team, Jalen Coker. the Puka manager who's struggling, Nico. You know, there's, there's a lot of teams out there that are like, man, I really need a guy. And I think this isn't someone that you're selling super high. You're not getting a star back, but you can get someone who is maybe a struggling young wide receiver back or a middling package Deebo to a wide receiver needy team with someone else to get like a Chuba Hubbard who's like, I don't know. I'm not super excited about him. I don't know that that's going to happen. You know, they're two kind of older seeming players if you need a running back or, you know, Jordan Tyson, that, that, that manager who's held on to Jordan Tyson for 3 weeks. If he has another wide receiver injury, he might just have to make a move and can't hold injured wide receivers. Carnell Tate, who's been super disappointing. People might be like, should I drop him? Who do I start?
I got to get a win this week. Like try to flip Deebo. for some of these other struggling young guys like Rome Odunze, who, I mean, I would rather have just about all of these people over, over Deebo. I think Deebo's manufactured points are just not reliable. I don't think he's going to be really anything rest of season. And right now he's scored enough fantasy points. I mean, like last week, the 80 receiving yard, you know, play was on one gadget plays. So it's like that you can't rely on that. And I think after another couple of weeks, you're not going to be able to trade him for anything. So yeah, to me, if he was on my roster right now, I'd be, I'd be shopping him, seeing if I can capitalize on a couple of good fantasy performances.
All right. Let's take a break and talk Thursday night.
Thursday Night Breakdown.
The Pittsburgh Steelers, 2-1, guys, taking on the 2-1 Cleveland Browns. Here we are. AFC North battle. Pittsburgh minus 2.5 on the road, over-under 38.5, which is right about where the average over-under is for every Pittsburgh-Cleveland game for the last 5 years. And the last 2 games last year were at 38 and 34. Here we are. 2 teams above .500. Deshaun Watson on a 2-game winning streak. Aaron Rodgers got it done last week. First 290 in 3 games in what, 5 years? So fantasy-wise, Mike, you'll, you know, you'll do the morbid told you so with Quinshon Judkins right now. 35th in yards per carry, 35th in rush success rate, 35th in yards before contact. That's bad because there's only 36 in the sample. So yeah, so that's, that's pretty much the worst starting running back. If you want to make the case against Ollie Gordon, you got it. You got it right here where I don't think any of us think Quenshawn Judkins is the 35th best running back in football from a talent perspective. But on this, team in this situation with what they're able to do with the offensive line. He is really entering the don't mess around with category, which sucks.
It really, it does because he's, he's a better player than what he is able to do right now. But the path forward, I mean, we got 18 carries. So 20 opportunities last week against Carolina.
Yeah. That must have been a bunch of fantasy points, right?
I mean, you got you in the top 24. But yeah, you're, you're, you have to sheer volume your way there and he will, he'll get a couple touchdowns along the way. But overall, it doesn't feel great.
This game is disgusting, dude.
Who's going to win?
The Steelers are going to win.
No, they're not. No, they're not.
Not the fans.
No. Yeah.
Not the fans. Wait, you think the Browns are going to win this game?
I do.
Oh man. I really don't. Since the Browns can't run the ball. They've been passing the ball okay the last couple of weeks. Deshaun Watson has looked—
I'm thinking through this. I think I'm with Mike.
However, the passing defense for the Pittsburgh Steelers this year has been phenomenal. It's been— TJ Watt's been awesome.
Yeah.
I mean, it's just, they're a very difficult team to throw the ball on. And so I don't think Deshaun Watson's going to be able to succeed there. Judkins hasn't done anything and their defense is not what it was with Myles Garrett. So I think this is definitely the Steelers win this game. We're split on that, but for fantasy purposes, there's not a lot of start-sit decisions. Jaylen Warren.
Jaylen Warren is talent and volume.
You have to play him. He's, he looked amazing last week. The 2 players I want to apologize to the most right now is, is like Jaylen Warren and Kyren Williams. Like 3 weeks into the season from an efficiency standpoint, both are better than I thought they'd be.
Yeah. Warren certainly got his opportunity with, with Rico being out and Warren, Warren's always been a great player. So with him getting everything that it totally makes sense. I mean, on the Steelers side, are we playing any of these wide receivers? You're still trying to see how it's going to shake out.
I do think the targets say that you can play Metcalf. You know, he's on pace for what, like 2 touchdowns?
0 fantasy points.
136 targets. No, look, he scored last week. I'm not wanting to. I'm just saying that like if I had to, if I'm in that category of just, I don't know players.
Dude, I mean, he's on pace for 136 targets. So that's where it's like, okay, that's, that's, that's a wide receiver 1, maybe a wide receiver 2. He's also on pace for 550 yards receiving yards.
Do you want to make this game interesting, Jason?
Yeah.
Let's do, I dominated you last week on our $100 bet. If you remember.
Yes. I took Bryce Young and he took Justin Herbert and they were a point apart.
They were a point apart and it was not a lot of points.
Yes.
But I dominated. I got $100. So I'm, I've got house money here. I'll bet you Browns versus Steelers.
Oh, okay.
I think the Browns will win the game. And the reason I think they're going to win the game is, you know, you made a good point. They might not be able to pass the football. I think they'll hit the under in this game, by the way. Yeah.
Oh, it's going to be disgusting.
It's going to be gross. But the reason I think is that the pass rush and the defensive line for the Browns at home where they're, by the way, 7-0 in the last Thursday, last 7 Thursday night games. Aaron Rodgers becomes incapable of functioning with any pressure at all. And there were 5 players, I think, that got 5 pressures last week for the Browns. That's why I think they'll win the game. And now we have something.
Yeah.
No, that's fun. That's easy money. So yeah, I guess.
You just became the biggest Aaron Rodgers fan. That's all I want you to know. Although I guess it's worse for me.
Yeah, it's definitely worse for you because there were no odds. So this is great for me. But the Cleveland rush defense right now, they're allowing an explosive play on 17% of designed runs. That's the highest in the NFL. And we saw Jaylen Warren with some explosive plays back to back last week. So I think they're going to be able to run on the Browns. And I just don't think the Browns are going to be able to score.
Yeah. I mean, that's, that's what we're looking at here. It's a close, close line. Pittsburgh minus 2.5, low over-under, boring game.
The only other—
don't play players if you don't have to.
Yeah. I would say don't play players if you don't have to. If you've got another option for Mike Pence.
Fannon though.
That was where I was going.
I'm getting into Fannon.
Fannon is the one guy I finally figured out.
You see the target?
Maybe I should throw to him.
You see the target progression here?
3, 6, 9, 12's on the way.
And if you can't pass to wide receivers, Jason.
Get low. Let's do it.
Do you want to— let's target Fanning.
I'm going to give you a disgusting start-sit question. DK Metcalf on Thursday against Cleveland or Ladd McConkey on the road against Seattle. Ladd.
I'll go Ladd.
Hoping that the ribs are getting better.
Yeah, I want a good wide receiver.
That's not a great matchup either. Yeah.
Not a good time.
I mean, I just, any, any Metcalf decision is not, not a good time. Can you play both defenses this week? Sure.
Yeah.
Okay.
There you go.
We'll find some silver lining there and then we'll move on to mailbag.
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Got to find a spot.
If you have a question for the show, we're here to help. That's what we do. We want to help you win your week. You can go to thefantasyfootballers.com and you can click the submit a question button or dial our voicemail hotline, 302-464-TFFB. We'll start with the voicemail.
Hey, ballers.
This is Trevor here. Big fan of the show. We've got a member of our league that is battered at wide receiver and I have Michael Wilson. Would you rather have Michael Wilson or Nico Collins rest of season? I think I've got an opportunity here. Love you. No.
Bye. Okay. Michael Wilson or Nico Collins.
So you get the chance to turn Michael Wilson into Nico because they need a player this week and Nico's out potentially. I mean, do it.
I would do that in a heartbeat.
I would absolutely do it.
We were talking before the show.
Nico's a great trade for candidate personally.
Yeah, I agree. They need him. He looked good. Obviously dealing with his own hamstring injury sucks for now. But if you can, you know, if you can withstand victories long enough. to acquire Nico. I mean, he could be back this week.
He was listed as a decent chance to return in week 4.
So yeah, I would, I would definitely do that. Michael Wilson is a very good wide receiver, is clearly the best wide receiver on the Cardinals roster. He's better than Marvin Harrison. He does everything well. He had 17 targets last week, but he's, he will never be the number one receiving option when Trey McBride is there. He'll be a best number 2. Nico is their 1. And so that's, that's a level I would always, always trade for.
I am very bullish on Michael Wilson finishing, you know, probably in the top 15 to 16 range. I think he could get there.
It seems like the team—
If he gets 17 targets a game, he will.
Yeah. It seems like the team has, you know, last year Marvin Harrison's injury. forced Michael Wilson to show that he could be a 1 and he was dominant. Michael Jerry Rice Wilson. A new regime came in, new head coach, new staff, everything changed. And now it's like, okay, well, Marvin Harrison is part of the future of this franchise. And we're 3 weeks in and in the 3rd week they were like, dude, that the other wide receiver is way better. And so I think the transition's been made. I do think Michael Wilson will be good. And Marvin Harrison is—
I mean, he had 5 targets this week, Jason. That's a huge uptick.
Marv?
Yeah. Yeah. 17 for the other guy.
I don't think that they are looking to force Marvin Harrison to be something he's not.
No. And it says something when you come out in press conferences and you have to defend the usage of Marvin Harrison and then your answer to that on the field is 17 targets for the other guy.
Yeah.
All right. Another voicemail question.
Hey, fantasy footballers, it's Blake. And if I get on this, my dad's going to freak out, but I was wondering if I should play Treyveon Henderson or Braelon Allen this week. Thanks. Love the show.
Tell your dad to freak out. So we got Braelon Allen or Treyveon Henderson this week with Breece Hall. Breece Hall hasn't been ruled out yet that I've heard, but he's not going to play. I would play Braelon Allen. I would go volume.
Look, I, I don't want to like discount Treyveon's potential to randomly show up.
Agreed.
But that is what it is right now. It's not, you don't play him with any guaranteed production. You play him with a, with a hope that you get a big play.
He's playing the Buffalo Bills and Braelon Allen is playing the Chicago Bears.
Both are decent matchups for running backs. I would play Braelon Allen as well. I think that he'll get enough work in a good matchup where he's looked good. The Jets have been better. Their offensive line has been improved and you just don't know. You don't know what you're going to get with Tre'Vion Henderson. The matchup is good. And so I was like, man, should Travion be a start of the week? No, I can't do that. Should Rhamondre be a start of the week? No, I can't do that.
So it's like, yeah, look, he's becoming an if man right now. It's like if you use him in the receiving game, Travon would be awesome.
Yeah.
If you give him enough work, he'll break one out way. I mean, but what this team is so broken right now. You've got to understand they're the lowest scoring team in football.
Al dropped Drake May this morning for Austin Ekeler.
Oh my gosh.
That's where Drake May— what does he have, like 1 touchdown and 6 interceptions in his last—
He's broken. His confidence is broken.
And it's, it's certainly going to change with the way that the Jets with Breece Hall out. But to this point, it's only been Breece Allen and Breece Hall and Braelon Allen. Like they're the only running backs who have actually gotten any sort of work. Isaiah Davis has not seen us an offensive snap.
Yeah. Yeah.
I think Braylon's going to be a true—
But Isaiah Davis has been active, right? Has he been active in those games? So I mean, that's a great sign.
I'm saying like, and like I see what Andrew Beck has run 5 routes.
Didn't we get, didn't we get Braylon Allen alone? a couple of times in his career in terms of getting a start. I was just trying to remember, like, I don't— 2024.
I'm not saying Allen is a slam dunk by any means.
Let me see if he ever got more than 12 carries in a game in his career. And I'm not saying that you're saying that.
This is pure volume versus a matchup that we can exploit.
Yeah. He's never had more than 12 carries. So he's going to have— I mean, he's only 22 years old. He's in year 3. He had 10 carries with Breece Hall in week 1.
All right. So see how we do.
We'll see what happens. Question from YouTube. Gabe writing in, Tucker Kraft or Colson Loveland rest of season in a PPR league.
Wait, wait, Loveland or who? Kraft.
Tucker Kraft. Like I can tell you if somebody offered me Colson Loveland for Tucker Kraft right now, I would turn it down. I mean, I would, I would take Tucker Kraft. I think that the target consolidation in Green Bay. Jayden Reed's injury. It's so— there's so many limited options. And I think Tucker Kraft is on the uptick. And I think Loveland is going to be a little more hit and miss than we wanted. So I would turn the trade down if somebody offered me.
I don't mind staying with Tucker Kraft. I think making that move at this point, you're trying to hit a true home run where— and like hoping that these 3 weeks are just— or whatever. I guess after Caleb is back. Then things get back on track for Loveland and he turns into the monster he was at the end of last year. But if you miss, you're going to miss real, real bad.
Yeah. The issue—
maybe I just stay with Tucker.
The issue that I had with Loveland preseason in the draft season was always just target competition. You know, will he get the targets? Will— or will it be a Luther game? And then will it be a Rome game? Will it be a Khalif Raymond game? And it seems like, you know, he's not the primary target.
They're not drawing everything. Like, he's not the first read all the time.
You wanted him to be a Trey McBride, Brock Bowers. He is the primary focus of the offense, I think, through 3 weeks. And I know we had a rain game, we had a backup quarterback game, and we had a crazy, you know, the running game worked. So we haven't seen their their standard offense. But at the same time, 3 weeks in, we know he's not the focus, the focal point of every week for their offense.
Follow-up question by Lucas. Would you rather have Isaiah Likely or Tucker Kraft rest of season?
Tucker Kraft.
Yeah, we don't have—
And that's, that's what you might— for the rest, that's one you might be able to get done because Kraft's been disappointing.
I think you're probably right.
I, I would assume most people would want Kraft, but someone out there might be like, yeah, I'll take I'll take Likely and I would definitely go.
I think the Tucker Kraft like notoriety isn't anywhere near the other top-end tight ends because he only had a small run last year. So if you didn't catch that run of dominance or know that he signed a contract, all that stuff.
It's kind of just the nerds. Yes.
Here's one for the nerds. I got 2 trade questions that I think are very difficult. Maybe. Dylan in Long Island. Do I trade Zay Flowers for Jeremiah Love in a PPR?
I mean, that's perfectly fine.
Yeah.
That's just about positional.
Yeah. It is about positional need. But the thing is, is when they're in the same tier and I think they're— Zay Flowers is good. Jeremiah Love is good. I'll take the running back. That's where the needs get, you know, more scarce and more needy.
Yeah. I think you're right.
Where the needs get more needy.
The slight hesitation is just, The way that Flowers has looked this year is like electric, something, a special season.
You're getting Antonio Brown vibes.
Well, I wasn't saying that, but I just, I mean, like, this is a different offense.
I'm, he's being used different and he is fantastic. I'm just afraid of Mike. I'm just afraid of the year of Mike. We don't know. We don't have conclusive evidence it's over yet. He suffered no injuries anywhere. He drafted perfectly in our League of Record. Those players are all breaking out. And I know people want to make me the enemy this year. Let me, let me point the, let me point the finger over here to this guy.
It would be much worse.
You want Mike to go back to back?
It would be much worse if Mike wins.
I would rather you win than Mike. But what is that all about?
You know what that's about.
But I think your odds of winning are much higher than Mike's.
Yeah.
See, look, I've already, I'm not going to say it out loud. I've already figured out all of what Mike's doing the rest of the season and how easy it is and how easy it's going to be for him to make the title game. And I, and I'm terrified. Tyler, would you trade Cam?
I'm just doing the best I can.
Shut the front door. Would you trade Cam Scadaboo for Amariyan Hampton? Jason, you just traded for Cam Scadaboo.
I just, I also mentioned that I think Cam Scadaboo is a good trade for candidate. The workload has been there. Last week was a Super rainy game. He averaged 3 yards per attempt, but it was like a sloshy, you know, everybody's up at the line of scrimmage. The game was 12 to 7. That being said, he got 20 carries, 4 targets. He's going to get the work. You know, I think I take— man, can we get a darn zoom?
Is there a slow zoom we could put on Jason?
I would take both.
Let's do that in post.
Cam Scadaboo and Amari Engram.
Who do you decide?
I will take them both. Would I trade Cam Scadaboo for Amari Engram? Thank you.
There we go.
Would I, if I had Scadaboo?
Yeah.
Yeah, I would. I would.
You would trade for Hampton?
I would trade Cam Scadaboo for Hampton.
Oh man.
I know.
The Herbros can't stop.
I would do that.
He is on an island right now.
I know.
He is sitting there under the beating sun.
I'm going to get you that whip so you can just hit yourself in the back over and over.
Yes.
It doesn't feel great, but I think I'd rather have Cam Skattebo. I think that the workload, but man, that's brutal.
Well, it's the workload of like, but the Giants offense is not going to turn around and all of a sudden be a juggernaut.
Correct.
The Chargers are not going to do that. But yeah, if one of the teams is going to, it would be the Chargers.
He answered the question. That was the mailbag presented by Paramount Plus. Paramount Plus is the streaming home to the NFL on CBS all season long. See you Sunday. We've got starts of the week, matchup previews, fantasy face-off all coming up Thursday and Friday. So much to talk about. We'll recap the big Browns victory in the morning, Jason. And I'll be a— I mean, I'll just be— we got to figure out a $100 bet every week. Yeah, I love that. But yeah, we've got a lot coming up this week. We'll see the starts at the top of tomorrow's show. So don't miss it. And check out the brand new dynasty in-season rankings with the win now and balanced and long-term slider. And you can check that out at jointhefoot.com in the ultimate tier. Oh, that's a handmade discipline whip. You can get one on Etsy, Jason, if you want to discipline thyself. We'll see if you need it. You've been a bad boy.
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