Transcript of Week 4 Waivers & Streamers + Drops & Dart O'Clock! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/23

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Chunk 1 is almost complete.

Chunk of the season.

Yeah.

Are these quarters? Are these four weeks chunks?

It's about. I mean, that's how I still think about it. I know that we're no longer just 16 weeks of fantasy football, Well, I mean, Trey Tucker helped me turn around the first chunk of the season for my dynasty team.

On your way. We've got a waiver episode today. We've got a Monday night football game for Jason to celebrate.

Oh, baby.

He needed Mark Andrews and David Montgomery to do more than Jameer Gibbs, and they did a lot more.

And Gibbs did a lot.

Gibbs was a 20-point fantasy player and didn't really compare to the other two. I mean, Montgomery gained 151 yards on 12 carries, had two touch downs, and then Mark Andrews after... Somebody needs to tell Mark Andrews when the season really starts because he's not really known what week that is the last two years. 6 for 91 and two tutties for Mark Andrews after one point and one point.

What's crazy is, and I hope this doesn't come across the wrong way, but he still wasn't good. Mark Andrews was not good.

I don't agree with that at all.

He had a great fantasy game.

I thought he was great.

I thought he was great. I'm watching him, of course, every route, every moment, because my everything relies on. He got the countdown, grabbed those great. He did the classic. When we brought it up on last Wednesday of Mark Andrews is someone you could pick up and play because he's always involved around the goal line, and he is. He's still great there. He'll box a guy out and get it. Pretty much everything else, it felt like… I remember about halfway through the game, and I remember thinking, My goodness, on waiver day, they need Ezea likely. They need a field stretcher at this position, the way that Mark Andrews used to be. And he wasn't really that. Now, yes, he had a big, broken, garbage time, huge, a breakdown at the end of the game. But that was nice, good, stinky, nasty time.

I don't know. I think you might have been watching with a hyper critical eye to your matchup because he was constantly finding space in the zone. He caught six. I mean, it wasn't just a couple of in-zone targets. He was six for 91. And the long touch down you're talking about was 27 yards. So it's like he was free, wide open all the time. And obviously, a part of the game plans. They flowers got disappeared from the offense. They barely had the football.

I mean, this was-Wow, the lions are so good.

This was such a limited amount of offensive snaps for the Ravens. So to me, Mark Andrews was hugely impressive. Derrick Henry got into the end zone, fumbled for the third time.

Also, I mean, shout out to the lions on it. A four down, full on stop of the Baltimore Ravens. Three carries for Derrick Henry, did not score. And then Then they play action, and they strip-sacked Lamar Jackson.

I think Baltimore has always been considered a bully in the NFL, and the bigger bully showed up in Baltimore and took their lunch money. I mean, seven sacks of Lamar completely dictated the game in every respect.

They did not let him run. They had a spy every play. They just said, You're not beating us the way that you beat everybody else.

Yeah, and they were disciplined in their tackling. And then the bully part was this offensive line that was, Oh, are they going to be good this year without their key... They manhandled Baltimore. I mean, they ran for 224 yards, and their quarterback didn't do any of that.

Oh, yeah. 34 carries. They just kept handing the ball off. And that's what you have to do against Baltimore, is you've got to possess the ball more than the Ravens.

Yeah, it was so impressive.

Five tutties for the lions. Jared Goff, one countdown.

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Six for 91 and two touch downs, and Jason's here criticizing Mark. It's weird, man. I mean, you scored 54 points between these two guys. You're not satisfiable. No, I'm not. I don't know if that's a word. Never be satisfied. I mean, you scored the most points in our league of record, and you're whining.

Yeah, with a goose from Seedy. I mean, grow up. Never. Tyrone Tracy.

Tyrone Tracy is going to be out for two to four weeks. The Scatman is back and breaking out.

Yeah, he did work this last week against a very, very difficult Chief's team.

Cam Skatebu, impressive. It's also more impressive when you're doing it with a bad offensive situation. So he's just forcing their hand. And then now, Tyrone Tracy being out, it's just inevitable. You're going to get some dumb, what I call a dumb singletary snap.

Yeah.

But it won't be better for the Giants.

Yeah, it's weird. And it's probably not in our news because it's still a low whisper. You got to put your ear to the ground. But we don't know for sure that it's Russ this weekend.

No, it could be. I mean, Jackson Dart, it's happening at some point.

Could it be lateral for the Giants? Maybe.

It's lateral with optimism.

I choose to believe that it will end up better in the long run.

Russ is like... I mean, winning-He threw it away on fourth down.

He threw it away on first, second, third, and fourth down on a goal to go.

You have nothing to lose on fourth down. Oh, no. I threw an interception in the end. Unlimited.

Sir, that was That was the wrong one.

Unlimited, diarrhea.

Unlimited. Have we seen someone play their way out of the Hall of Fame?

Yes, Russell Wilson. I said this two years ago.

I'm echoing it. Have we ever seen anything like this?

You guys know I started getting into sports cards with my son? Yeah. You build your collection of cards, and a lot of it, it's the stock market for players, right? Oh, for sure. If a player has a good week, all of a sudden, Tucker Kraft's rookie starts to look really good. C. J.

Stroud rookie card was looking pretty spicy two years ago.

100%. There's a lot of C. J. Stroud on the market, people trying to get out. I was at a card show this weekend, and Caleb, before he had the big game, I tried to sell a Caleb card, and they're like, I ain't buying no Caleb. Rockrets for that guy. They were like, The market ain't moving. All this to say, Russell Wilson was one of those players where it's like, you come out, you win a Super Bowl, you go to another Super You put those cars in the vault. Those are like, and now it's like, man.

Retire.

Retire right away.

I don't want them. Like Russ- That's so weird. It's a sell. And they need to have some optimism in New York. You're on three anyways. As long as you can protect Jackson Dart and let him develop. Jackson Dart and Skatebu together?

That's fun. I'll watch that game. It's fun. Skatebu is fun. Malik Nabors? That's a cool trio. It's a very nice core. If those three hit, and It looks like right now two-thirds. It's too early to know for sure that Skatebu is going to hit.

Thibodeau?

Thibodeau? Thibodeau? Thibodeau?

But Skatebu is a guy who we all loved coming into this year, and I think it's already been established he can do it in the NFL.

You didn't trade him recently, did you?

Oh, I sure did. I traded him to you. Oh, crap. You didn't trade him recently, did you? Oh, crap. We both just recently got out of Camp Skatebu. We're trying to capitalize. I'm talking about the team leader in carries for the Giants this last week and the team leader in rushing yards and the team leader in rushing touch downs, and the team leader in targets and the team leader in receptions and the team leader in receiving yards came Skatebu this last week.

Still, they were like, Singletary, get out there.

Well, you got to get some snaps. Yeah, ridiculous. But Tyrone Tracy missing 2-4 weeks. That was a long Skatebu Distraction there. Brock Purdy, practicing.

He better.

Well, that's dumb. That's stupid. This isn't news. He practiced all last week. I expect him to practice.

It was like third string peripheral snaps.

It wasn't like good snaps. But to say, I expect him to practice. It was like, Yeah, he practiced last week.

What if he said he...

I expect him to play.

I think it's important to report it because Mac Jones is hurt, and we need to know if one of those two guys is that.

And they play Thursday. Oh, speaking of-No, they don't. No, I was thinking of the Cardinals and Seahawks.

Speaking of Mac Jones, you had mentioned that comment about Mac Jones saying, Oh, he had a good throw. I didn't understand what you meant when you talked about it in the show.

He didn't give any credit to the defender, and he's just like, Yeah, that guy did not like he did anything good.

I couldn't believe the quote when I watched it.

Oh, did you watch it?

I thought he was like... When you said it, I thought he was being tug and cheek like, Oh, that was all me. He was legitimately saying, What did he do? What? He caught a perfect pass? Okay, I'm happy for him. He caught it. What? You Mike Jones. First of all, the dude made an awesome catch. You put it on his neck, which is a catchable ball. That's great. But that was a cool catch. Give him no credit. And then that guy's got something wrong between the ears.

But I did rip it. Oh, man. Oh, cool. You ripped it. You go back to the backup. All right, nick Bosa, the next player siphoned by Christian McCaffrey.

Really?

Adam Schefter reporting, nick Bosa, ACL tear out for the season. Second time he's torn his ACL.

What are you do if you're the Niners. You're undefeated. You're three and oh. You have the easiest schedule in the entire league. You should be set up to make a run, but your team is gone. You have no players.

No, no, no.

You keep fighting till you get some back.

Demarcus Robinson is back.

Yes. Demarcus Robinson, wide receiver who will matter.

Oh, he has to.

He absolutely will because John Jennings has been hurt, and Robinson is a good receiver and was looking good in the preseason. He returns from his suspension this week as does Jordan Addison. And we have Jaden Daniels still day to day. We'll wait to hear from the commanders. I hope he's playing.

Same as these.

Ceed Lamb could miss three to four weeks with a high ankle sprain. The reports were all over the place. It was like, We're going to take 10 to 14 days to figure out whether it's going to take 3 to 4 weeks. That was the first report. It was like, We're going to take some time.

I dug in as much as I could to just see what the latest information is because then Jerry Jones was coming out saying he could go on IR.

Jerry Jones also said, I think he's probably going to play this week.

Well, CeeD Lamb said, I think I could play this week, whatever. Nonsense. The most recent, I believe, accurate estimation is that he's going to miss the next two weeks, and then they will take it week by week from there. They didn't put him on IR. Usually, an injury like this misses three weeks. So that's my expectation. The way that I'm playing CeeD Lamb right now, and I've got him in too many places, unfortunately, he's going to miss three weeks, and then he should come against the Washington Commanders in week seven. That's just my assumption, and we'll adapt as new information comes to light.

Mike Evans is going to miss multiple weeks because of a ham string injury suffered in the Jets game. They're reporting it's not as bad as the one that caused him to miss three weeks last time, but we'll see.

But he's going to miss three weeks.

Satavian Sanders, high ankle sprain, missing multiple weeks. Zack Charbonne, a full participant in the first estimated practice report, so he should be back.

Okay. Enough of the bad news, man.

I also want to let you know that Titans' head coach, Brian Callahan, has relinquished his play-calling job to their quarterback coach.

So what's he going to be doing?

Head coaching, man. Timeouts.

Also, the Falcons.

Challenging All the good stuff.

The Falcons, they fired their wide receiver coach.

It was definitely the problem.

He was definitely the problem. Well, no, no, no. There was another problem. Osi was up in the booth. We got to bring him down to the field.

Then he can see the flash up close.

He's not seeing what's going on? Well enough. But what's better? Genuine question, because you have two exact opposite approaches here. You have the Arizona Cardinals and the Falcons, both teams not able to pass the ball right now, and they look really inept in the passing game. One team fired the coach, moves the offensive coordinator down, trying to make some moves. The other is literally coming out. The Cardinals, John Gannon is coming out and saying, Drew Petson called the best game of the season. He has no problem with anything going on. He thinks it's basically ideal. Just everything's perfect. Which is the better approach to build up confidence in your coaching staff?

At least you can make the comments like, Marvin Harrison cost the Cardinals a ton of passing yardage. Yes. Literally, possibly 150 yards in total receiving yardage. Those two plays happen. At least I can make the... Arizona probably wins the game, and they score a bunch of points, and they have a bunch of yards. Trust me, I hate the Cardinals. I hate them. I stared into the camera and told you yesterday, I hate them. But it wasn't as bad as what I saw in Atlanta. I mean, Atlanta's offensive passing game the last two weeks. You're going to get to the point where Kirk Cousins is your starter. Legitimately, if you want to salvage your season, if Michael Penix doesn't turn it around, I think that's possible. It was that That's pretty bad. 30 to nothing. That's pretty bad. I mean, right now, look, Drake London is a trade away for me. He was last week. He is this week. If I could go trade Drake London for whatever, Amari and Hampton or somebody in that category, heck, yeah. You're bailing out. I'm bailing out on Drake London. Not that he's going to be nothing, but you didn't draft him to be a wide receiver, too.

Right. That's what he is. I don't see that turning around, personally. But There's a lot of silence around me, so I'm getting the impression that maybe you do. I'm choking, currently. I don't see him as a... You're currently choking?

Yes.

Probably from watching some of that film, I would be throwing up.

That in phlegm.

The problems we have seen are legitimate and real. I mean, obviously, hopefully, They're making changes, but Pennex has looked really, really bad. And so if he is not the guy... I had big hopes for Drake London and for the Falcons' passing game, and that all hinges on, does Pennex have it? Because we haven't seen enough film. We're at six games, right? Yeah, and three weeks at the end of last year against three of the worst defenses out there.

He's looked really bad so far.

They won a game, and this is a little bit of the Arizona story, too. Atlanta won a game 22 to 6. In that game, Michael Pennax was the 32nd ranked fantasy quarterback in a game they won 22 to 6. The Falcons winning ball games, does does not need to involve 300 yards passing. It involves Bijon. Sure. That's the place where I don't want Kyle Pitz right now. We have a waiver show today.

Is Kyle pits on it for you?

Is he what?

You were like, I don't want Kyle pits. We have a waiver show. So I was like, Well, is Kyle pits a pickup for you? No. It's just a dumb joke, man.

I still don't get it.

I'm more on any side here.

I still I don't know what the joke is. But yeah, look, I would be trying to move on from Kyle Pitz because I don't think the...

Oh, yes.

Yes. Yes.

Yes. Breaking news.

Now, hold on. Hit the lights. This one. No, I need lights for this.

Woo, baby. Go ahead, Mike. You got to break the news.

Quarterback James for the New York Giants. Jackson Dart will be starting on Sunday versus the Chargers.

New York Giants. Diarrheated. Diarrheated. The area is flushed.

Giants fans, I'm so happy for you. Oh, my gosh.

It's legitimately fun.

Oh, I'm so happy for you.

It's fun now.

It's fun now. Nabors Carter. Oh, and three.

Do you think this is actually good for Malik Nabors?

Yes.

I believe so. Longer term. It might take a couple of weeks, honestly, but it was You were headed to a dark, dark place.

I mean, Russ throws it deep, right?

Yes.

Two of Nabors' three games have been bad.

Exactly.

So is it really better for him? It's better if you start to create a future of consistency. Whether that's intermittent explosions, I would think it's better to have a path towards consistency.

Yep. Now, you got to do it.

They also got Andrew Thomas back who dominated this past week. Yeah, I think it was... Jackson Dard can run the football.

I thought I saw a stat of both tackles did not allow a QB pressure.

Which makes Russell Wilson's self-decapitation so terrible.

Exactly. I'm excited. Jackson Dard looked like a dog in preseason. But if you're going to wear your eye black like that, you better be a dog right away.

All right, we'll find out. We're one step closer to Jameis Wednesday.

Oh, now there. There we get excited. It's a good question, though.

There's no chance for Jameis to start, though, unless there was an injury. So I don't really root for that. But it'll be Jackson Dart, isn't it?

But the question is, if If the heart were to go down to injury, do they go back to Russ, or do they go- Probably stupidly, yes.

That would be interesting. Unless Russ, which I recommend, request his release. If Russ wants to go and request a release, that would be the best for What team do you want to go to, Russ?

None. None. Just let me rest.

No, I didn't say what team wants you.

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I would say it's coming because next week you'll say they're here.

Yeah. Yeah, this would be the only time in which they are coming. Yes. No, I accept. So make your plans. Something to factor in.

They weren't like, Hey, the British are here. It's like, No, the British are coming because they're not here yet.

Right. Yeah. But you got to be scared. The Biwings are offshore. Yes. A little way. Yes.

And they're going to make it to shore. And we got to put the lanterns up.

Okay.

Yeah, this is- Just some Revolutionary War jokes.

Perfect parallel. Let's start with the running back position, Big, huge must add if he's there, but he's not there in every league. Trey Vincent, of course. James Connor out for the season with the ankle injury, surgery required. If we didn't report that, it's been confirmed. Trey Vincent will be taking over in Arizona. Trey Vincent, a very capable young running back who is already looking pretty good to start the year. I mean, in the first week of the season, he was 8. 6 of carry, had a 52-yard run, 4. 7 the next week. Last week, 10 opportunities on the ground, 4. 2 a carry.

Trey Benson reminds me of... Not in necessarily play style exactly like of Kenneth Walker, but he's the type where he'll look like he has some bad vision and get stuffed a lot. But if you give him enough opportunities, he can break a long play. He has that explosive athleticism. So he hasn't had a lot of volume because he's been behind James Connor. Going forward, if he is getting a lot volume every game, it'll be common and frequent for him to have big fantasy outputs, and it'll be a rest of the season lead role. So he's not available in any league I play in. But if he was, you're dropping at least probably 60 % of your FAB.

That's the question, is how aggressive.

Yeah, I'd be at 65 to 80 on Trey Benson. Running backs have been, for some reason, I don't know if it's just distribution in the league that I'm in. I don't know if it's common in the league that you guys are in. They're Very hard to find right now because you've had letdowns at the top. You've had the Chase Browns of the world that people don't feel comfortable starting. Running backs are hard to come by. They are a premium to me on the FAB world.

Would you aggressively trade for Trey Benson?

I don't know if someone will let him go. I would rather have Benson than Bill. I made that offer this morning. It'll get turned down. But the straight up Crosky versus Vincent. I'd rather have Vincent.

For sure.

Other names to mention near the 60% range. Bayeshaal Tootin is still out there, still scored again. He's a good player.

Yeah, he looks good, and he's involved.

It seems like, not that ETN. Etn ended up putting a good game together. But ETN is also the guy that a coach is willing to give up on.

Yeah, he is.

He's not their guy.

This is who I traded for.

If he struggled, they would turn the page a little bit.

And he only ran for three and a half. So far, if you look at his yards per carry, week one, 8. 9, week two, 5. 1, week three, 3. 5. I fully expect a two-yard per carry game coming.

Amari Demarcado will be the secondary and pass catching option for Arizona. Keep that in mind if you are in a deeper league and you need a spot start. There's a lot of players I'd probably start Demarcado over with how Arizona has a propensity to not use wide receivers. So I'd play them over Braelen Allen. I'd play them over Gamewell. I'd play them over Miles Sanders. If you were in that category, Kareem Hunt, that would be close. But if you're full PPR, I'm telling Like, D. Marcado has had games.

Sure.

He's had games in the past. So other runningbacks that you guys are looking at.

I think Ollie Gordon is a very interesting name because he's got the combination of I think he's good, which is rare for most of these names. You could bring up Chris Rodriguez Jr, who got the start ahead of Bill, had involvement, had double-digit carries. I don't think he's that good. I actually think Ollie Gordon is a good player. He's a rookie running back for the Miami Dolphins, and he was involved early in the game last week. He ended up only playing 25% of the snaps, but early in the game, it seemed like he was a real big part of the game plan. The first drive, he had carries. He had a couple of good carries. He had a breakdown, and he's a rookie, so he's going to get more and more involved. And it does seem like the Dolphins need more weapons. It can't just be Achan. So Ollie Gordon is probably one of the guys I'm most interested in.

Mike, where are you with the Chris Rodriguez commander situation and the Woody Mark situation, where they're 0-3, the Houston offense looks atrocious, but nick Chubb is not bringing anything special to the offense?

Man, that's a fair, difficult question of Rodriguez will be capped. He looked pretty good, but he will be capped. It's going to be three runningbacks in Washington.

You'd rather have Bill than both of the other guys?

I would, yeah, at this point. But that's not saying I'm clamoring for Bill. If I need production immediately, I guess Chris Rodriguez could give... And the 11 carries. He started the game with two drives. We don't know if that's a forever Moving forward. Was that a, Hey, man, sorry, you've been in active the last couple of weeks. We're going to give you some opportunities. But Woody Marks could be a boat. He's that type of a player. He has juice, and the guy in front of him does not.

Where are you with Kareem Hunt and his startability right now? He's only 42% rostered. Everybody rosters Pacheco. Pacheco is unplayable. Kareem Hunt, nobody wants any bit of, but he scored last week.

Man, I don't think I want either. If I had to start one of them, I would certainly start Kareem Hunt over Pacheco because passing work and goal line work are there. It just seems like that backfield is so split. It's funny because if you had to start someone this week, you'd probably start Kareem Hunt over a Woody Marks. But Woody Marks is, I think- On the way? He's on the way. Look at what has happened with nick Chubb. He seems like it. Nick Chubb is playing 50% of the snaps, and then Woody Marks a rookie, started week one. He was not very involved. Damian pierce was active back in the day.

I remember when.

Back in the day. Three weeks ago. Woody Marks went from 11% of snaps up to 27% of snaps. This last week, up to 48% of the snaps while they've said, Okay, Damian pierce, you're not active. We're going to get this player more involved. He had eight opportunities. So I just feel like it's coming, and Chubb doesn't have it.

Unfortunately, the offensive The line will not be improving. That is the biggest issue. Yeah, that's the biggest issue. By the way, a quick detour here because people like to know what's going on in our league. We have a 17-team chop.

Oh, this is a good detour.

I just want to look to Deucer's alley here. Now, there's only three weeks into the season. There's 17 teams. There's a lot of different teams that could get chopped. Raise your hand in Deucer's alley here if you have been chopped from that league already.

Oh, there's a hand.

Oh, there's a second hand.

What's funny is the only other guy I I think we've ever had back here in Deucers Alley, Radin, I think he sat in a time or two.

Yeah, Baby Jake. Baby Jake- Also chopped. Was the first chopped. So he was the lowest of the Deucers chopped. Then the second lowest of the Deucers got chopped next in the Falcon. Then the next lowest of the Deucers got chopped in Papa Josh. I'm not going anywhere. You're gone this week.

It's the seating chart from Final Destination. It's working its way through.

And if you're not familiar with a guillotine or a chopped league, lowest score of the week, you're done. And there's a thousand fab in this league. How much fab did you have when you got cut, Josh?

All of it.

What about you, Falcon? All of it. Okay, good work. All right. I had to bring that up because he's not in the league anymore, so we won't bring him up again.

They say you can't take it with you, but they are.

They are taking it with you when you die. Other names to mention, you're looking at more of the... The Trey Vincent situation is exactly why we tell you every week on of the show to throw Blake Corm on your roster. Yep. Braille and Allen.

Miles Sanders.

Yeah, and it's true. I may not like watching Miles Sanders run the football, but if Javante goes down, he's the guy, One of the Cowboys just lost another lineman, didn't they?

Yes, they did.

That's right. That's worth bringing up. The Cowboys' offense is going to be struggling.

They're in humongous trouble. They are the most delightful defense for any offense to play against. Frankly, my worry was the offensive line to begin with to start the season. That was what I thought would get in the way of the Cowboys doing enough. Then they've lost two of them. And CeeDee Lamb now.

This is-It's going to be tough selecting.

It's turning into a tough season for them. Would you drop Tyrone Tracey with the injury? If you're moving towards some of these other guys? Yeah, I will probably. These are dropped candidates. Isiah Pacheco, would you let him go? I probably wouldn't.

If he was on waivers, we would be picking him up.

We would, but he's like a landmine.

He is. He's a landmine. But I don't think people are going to start him right now. He is a stash.

You're down with Dylan Samson. That was a nice run for a week or two.

Oh, yeah. See you later. Yeah, I mean- Jerome Ford is the third down running back. He'll be the guy in on the two-minute drill, and otherwise, it's Judkins.

Judkins is legit. He looks great.

Wide receiver. Let's talk about him. Wide receiver pickups, wide receiver drop candidates. And again, you can use I'm in down to where to get a customized list of these guys relative to your league and who's available. Jordan Addison is back. Just check your league. Just peak. 81% roster, been drafted, but you never know. But let's talk about the big sign The beginning of the week, I think. When we started going through waivers at Running Back, because we each put our rankings together, I actually didn't have Trey Tucker at the top after the big week. I'm like, Oh, I'm not going to overreact. And then I moved him to the top this morning.

Overall or just the wide receiver? Okay, that's fine.

Because I actually... You need to pay attention to what this offense is doing right now with Gino Smith, with the failures on the offensive line to run the football, with Brock Bowers in the knee injury. I was big on Dante Thornton. He hasn't materialized. And you had a first week where Taekwan Thornton was a top 24 wide receiver, and He's out there. This is the biggest part of it to me is, yes, you had the 8 for 145 and 3. He's out there all the time. He's out there 95, 90% of snaps. So Taekwan Thornton, very explosive.

Trey Tucker?

Oh, gosh, yes.

Oh, man.

Did I say that multiple times? You did. Oh, that's a horrible podcast.

I was letting you go because I didn't know where we were heading up.

You should stop me when I sound that dumb.

He did eventually.

Hey, stop.

Everything I said.

I I love Michael Keaton.

Everything I said, find a replace. Anytime I said the wrong name with Trey Tucker. The whole point was Trey Tucker is on the field all the time.

He just love Taekwong Thornton so much.

Yeah. He's another name we'll bring up. But I do think Trey Tucker is actually valuable. I think he's important to talk about. Gino Smith can throw the ball deep. And I don't... Like, Brock Bowers has been a disappointment so far.

Well, Brock Bowers was awesome, and then he hurt his knee and then has been not the same, Brock Bowers. So I expect a couple more weeks of mediocrity from Bowers as he works his way back to health, and then he'll just be awesome, Brock Bowers. Trey Tucker is a fine play. I don't think he is a great player despite his 145 and three touch downs, but he's fine. Like you said, he's on the field all the time. This is a Raider's team that is probably going to have to throw more than they want. They would love to give the ball to Ashton Genti and milk leads, but they're not going to have them as often as they want.

When I look at the other names, is Is there somebody that you actually want over Trey Tucker?

Yeah. For me, Tori Horton is a player that I want. Tori Horton is very talented. He's a rookie coming in for the Seattle Seahawks. This last week in your fantasy league, he probably didn't get as much value as he brought to the Seahawks because he had the... Was it a punt or a kickoff? I can't remember which. I think it was a punt return for a countdown.

But he's looked- He also had a regular countdown.

Yes. Yeah, he had two touch downs in the game, one that scored for you fantasy, but he has really looked good. He's avoided tacklers. He has played the part, and I think he's a better... When you talk about potential, what could they become? I don't think Trey Tucker can develop into something really special. By the end of the year, we're going, that guy broke out, and he is a really, really special guy. Thornton still has a lot of room to grow. It's just a of what you need. If I had to start one of them this week, I think the floor is higher.

Now, he's doing it.

Oh, man.

What is going on? You did.

Tori Horton. At least mine. At least mine, right?

My mind sounds similar. My mind made sense because I said, Dante Thornton?

And Trey Tucker and Taekwant Thornton. It's two T's.

Who are we talking about?

I don't even know anymore. I'm going to jump in.

Troy Franklin. Dante Thornton.

Troy Franklin is I'm still going after. The output was not what you had hoped after the week 2 sensation where he was the wide receiver 2, but he's out there. Trey Tucker, I'm fine going. I'm chasing after Trey Tucker. I don't think he's a randow enough that you just completely dismiss it, and he's a super speedy guy. Can he be the number two for a while for the Raiders? Where Tori Horton is an exciting rookie, but you have two other established guys on that team. Denver, the thing of the offseason was who will step up and be the number two guy? Marvin Mims was getting the snaps in the preseason. Those have evaporated. Franklin's the one who's getting the snaps. So he's the one I think I'm chasing the most, and he may not even be the most expensive.

So he's number one on your wide receiver list?

I'll go verify that. But of the guys we've talked about so far, he's the one I want.

And Horton is number one on your list, Jason?

Yes.

So Io Manor is still out there. Sterling Sheppard will have a huge opportunity in Tampa Bay with the Evans injury, even if Godwin comes back. Sterling Sheppard basically available in every single league. He's a perfect spot start. He's had four more targets in every game, and those should go up. And Baker's cooking. So you have opportunities to... Philly is going to stop the run. Maybe Sterling Sheppard is a little spot start option for team that is the cheapest in the FAB Department. People may chase the three touchdance of Trey Tucker. They probably will. He's number one on my list because I think it will sustain. He ran 37 routes last week. Or actually, he's averaging that per game. He's playing every snap. And Gino is a spot start, I know, for us this week. Sure. So he's number one on my list, but I'm not going to break the bank on him. And a lot of people might after chasing those numbers, whereas Sheppard is rather free. Taekwan Thornton I'm legitimately talking about him this time. He had nine targets. He was five for 71 in a countdown. He was so close to another countdown on two separate plays, made a great catch the week before, had a countdown.

He might be the best pickup. He's a It's a matchup against Baltimore, who has given up the most points in the league. Now, granted, the points that they gave up was against Buffalo and against the Lions, great offenses, but they're playing the Chiefs. How crazy is it that one of those two teams is going to be one and three?

That's fascinating.

One of them will be a three-loss team into week four, the Chiefs or the Ravens.

Now, are we saying the Chiefs are a good offense?

I was saying they've got a quarterback that can throw a ball to Thornton. You're not playing against someone incapable.

A good offense or a quarterback that can throw the ball to Thornton. Which one is it? A quarterback that can throw it to Thornton. Look, he's the best weapon they have right now. Now, worthy, is he going to be back soon?

Hopefully. But it's still one of those over-the-top type of players at the Ravens have given up. If you want to talk a spot start from an over-the-top defense that lets you go long, it'll sound weird, but Dontavian Wicks is matching up perfectly against those cowboys. There was a play, if you didn't see the flea flicker from the Chicago bears, and it was talked about afterwards that the coaching staff of the bears found that if you pull the cowboys in, you can beat them over the top. They just found that. It was so true that DeAndre Swift did the worst flea flicker passback of all time. He threw it 20 feet in the air.

He did a softball slow pitch.

Yeah, and it was like, gave the defense tons of time to react. Still worked.

Yeah, I mean, to me, that's why Matthew Golden is my start of the week this week. I mean, for those reasons.

It is not Thursday.

No, but it is- You got to turn that down. He's only 80% rostered. He's the same as Addison, so you need to glance. That's a drop it like it's hot. People let go of Golden. He had seven opportunities last week in a week where the Browns were terrible. He is a must start to me this week.

Yes, perfect. Either one of them. Someone is getting a bomb, a breakdown in that game.

Yeah, I agree. Other names to throw out there, Luther Burden. Yeah, that's the- If you're going to put Horton on your bench, you can put Burden on your bench.

Yeah, he's the other stash type of a name. It was only three targets. Obviously, he hit the big play. But with the way that the offseason went, it was destined to be a slow burn, a slow start here for Luther Burden.

Yeah, very limited snaps, so it's a stash.

But both him We'll talk about love when we get to tight ends. But what is DJ More in this offense?

Running back.

Because Rome seems to be just taking the wide receiver one position away from DJ Moore, despite what the bank accounts say. And I've said all offseason, Luther Burden would not surprise me if he ends up as the number two wide receiver. I don't know who the number one will be, but I think that Burden could just end up being that number two guy, especially if Ben Johnson starts figuring out, utilizing him in the slot and everything, Amun Ross style. So I think Burden is a good stash at the end of the bench. Well, if other people are burning FAB to chase Trey Tucker and Taekwan Thornton, then okay.

If you don't need a start.

Yeah. I'll just put Burden on the back of the bench and see what happens this week. A couple of...

You go first.

Well, I was going to get to drop candidates. So if you have other players you want to mention, mention them first.

There's a couple of injury situations. One is CeeD Lamb is gone. So do either of you care about the other guys in Dallas that can step up?. Yeah. Okay.

Moving Moving from there, another deep one.

Parker Washington had 11 targets. Diami Brown is injured in a PPR League. There's that. And then Chris and Kirk, I don't know if we brought him up.

Kirk is worth bringing up. Eight targets and back for Houston, and they desperately needed him.

Yeah.

So, yeah, he's rostered in half of the league. Drop candidate names are tough, man. They're tough ones. Josh Downs. It's been three Downs weeks for him, although the targets in week two was pretty good. Stefan Diggs. Diggs is just... If he catches the ball-He's just there, man. If he catches the ball, it's some underneath eight-yard route where he falls down afterwards. It's not explosion.

We have all the games on, all of the televisions are in the lobby. I know Stefan Dings is getting catches. You're just like- Have you seen one? No. They feel like the most inconsequential reception's ever.

Dings is probably.

Calvin Ridley. Calvin Ridley has 27 yards, 57 yards, 27 yards. New play caller. Ioomanner is more valuable to me.

That's tough, man. Eight targets, six targets, seven targets, and air yards. It's a really hard drop for me.

It is, but I think I'd plant a landmine.

Travis Hunter. Travis Hunter had good target numbers the first two weeks. Last week, just two. You just talked about like, Danny Brown's hurt. Parker Washington ended up with 11 targets.

I'm not dropping Hunter, but I am benching him.

Oh, man.

We're very close to a drop, though.

All right, we'll take a break They can come back with tight ends, defense, and our streaming quarterback options. All right, Jason, do you buy into Hunter Henry? We have Drake May finally at the helm, and this connection has been very good last week. 11 targets, 8 for 90 and 2. If you are Pitz or Najoku or Kelsey, are you actively FAB bidding on Hunter Henry?

I think Hunter Henry is someone that you can pick up. Yeah, if you've got David Najoku, I'd rather roll out Hunter Henry right now. I'm not spending up on Hunter Henry chasing an incredible game, two touch downs, tons of targets. Hunter Henry has done this plenty of times. We know that Hunter Henry can go out there and get 10 catches for 70 yards and a touch down or two. This isn't the first or the second or the third time he's done it, and then he'll go away.

It seems like Diggs, though, and Domerio and Douglas. Diggs and Douglas are invisible. So I just wondered if maybe the offense is different for Drake May.

It is possible that it runs through Hunter Henry. But really what we've seen, and we don't like this for fantasy that much, but Drake may has spread the ball around a lot, which is usually unfortunate for you want the consolidation of targets. Hunter Henry is fully capable. You could chase this. Eight targets week one, 11 targets week three. But I don't think he's going to be consistent eight target every week.

Mark Andrews or Hunter Henry?

I would take Hunter Henry. Okay. Isiah Likely is going to come back. I just mentioned it earlier. Isiah Likely is a pickup for me. I think that they will utilize him in the passing game more. I know Mark Andrews had a humongous game this last week. Zay flowers was taken out of the equation, and Mark Andrews was the beneficiary. But up to that point this season, we've seen Mark Andrews really utilize as a blocker more than as a field stretcher, and they haven't had likely.

Yeah, I'm prioritizing Henry. Kate Otton is to be paid attention to, but it's hard when he had- He's Kate Otton. I mean, he had a goose in week three.

I feel like Kate Otton is a fine pickup. I really do. They will have to throw it around. Baker spreads the ball around a lot as well. Buka can't catch. He can't get 100% of the targets.

He's just been so bad so far this year. He It freaks me out. I mean, you're right. We're talking about Sterling Sheppard, so we should be talking about Kate Otton.

Yes, Kyle. He is the Charles Clay type of a player. This is a Mr. Necessary. You had a run last year of four straight weeks of a top 12 performance, tied in 12, 4, 2, 3.

I wonder if he's not healthy. Because he was banged up and hurt and then playing through it.

Every catch, he just gets exploded. So it's very possible he is hurt. The The optimism I would have for him, if you're going to go into, if you're going to dive into that pool, is now the game plan will be different. Exactly. They weren't planning for Mike Evans to strain his ham string. Now we have to build it around the guys we have, and Kate Otton should see five plus targets.

Kate Otton is playing 90% of the snaps, too. So that's what you want. You want a guy that's on the field, actually running routes.

If you want somebody that has not been rostered by anybody, but could be their starting Coming tight in next week if Will Disney misses more time. Sure. Had seven targets, five for 46, Aarande Gadston for the Chargers.

The Great Gadston.

Okay, thank you.

I like it. Yeah? All right.

Well, he's got to do something.

It's a tough name.

He did.

He got five for 46. G-a-d-s-d-e-n. Gadston. Too many Ds in there.

Yeah, I feel like when you said it, you threw a T in there.

Gadsten? You thought I said GAT?

No, Gat.

It's like a Gat.

Gatsby. You hit the first D and the second D was a T. Gadsten. It's GADSTEN.

All right, thanks. We'll leave it to you.

Gadsten.

Defensive options this week.

I want to throw it real quick. This might be a longer term situation, and he somehow is still rostered a ton, but Colston Luvlin, he played five-He's hurt, though. No, but they're saying it's not a big deal. So this is just more of a be aware of he ran five routes, and per fantasy point-Wait, five? He ran five routes before he got hurt. And per fantasy point, he had three first read targets on those five routes. So on paper, that looked like a game where they're like, Hey, we're going to get Bird and we're going to get Luvlin. We're going to get them going. So just Paying attention to it.

Defensive options this week, who do you like?

The defenses. So you got the chargers going up against now what will be a first start for Jackson and Dart. I think those are always good, although I I prefer the second start once you get a little bit of film on them. The Detroit Lions who just shut down the Baltimore Ravens.

And they're a double up.

They're going to be at home against Cleveland, which they will throw picks. They will take sacks. That's a great matchup. And you're saying it's a double up because the following week, they're going to go on the road to Cincinnati to play against Jake Browning. Those are my two favorites.

Might be a triple up.

Kansas City Chiefs stink.

Minnesota was unbelievable last week, and they're facing Pittsburgh this week. It is on the road, but Pittsburgh, that offense does not look very good.

No.

I would pay up for the Texans as well. Going against Tennessee this week. Sometimes you just need to do a one week, pay three or four FAB dollars to make sure you get a guy, because if you end up scoring six more points at your defensive position, that could be the difference between a win and a loss.

Do you prefer the Houston Texans against Kam Ward or the Washington commanders on the road against Michael Penix?

The Texans. But I think the Texans defense is really good. It's going to be a struggle bus for Kam Ward this week.

The Patriots are great, too. They're at home against Carolina. Bryce Young on the road. That's been a recipe for success for defenses and the commanders that you just mentioned. All the WaverWire rankings, including the defenses on the website at thefantasyfootballers. Com. Streaming quarterbacks in a moment here. That was this week's WaverWire presented by Walmart. Who knew you can get what you need in as fast as an hour? Get free delivery on your first Express Delivery order with the code Express. Valid for first. Express delivery order, $50 minimum. Subject to availability. Restrictions apply.

Full stream ahead.

All right, if you are in dire straits of quarterback, you need a streaming option for this week. Who's it going to be?

I'll kick us off because my game is first. It is on Thursday night. Samuel Darnold. Here we are. Was Sam Darnold the reason the Vikings were good? It's starting to look more and more like that is the case. Week one was brutal for Darnold, but then the next two weeks, he has been really strong for fantasy, and that includes QB 11 last week, where he played just a portion of the game. They are being very aggressive going down the field, especially with JSN in this breakout that is happening. He ranks top 10 in past success rate, completion percentage, yards per attempt, and sac rate And on top of that, gets to take on the Arizona Cardinals who are just not very good.

I'm going to go next with Geno Smith. If you believe in Trey Tucker as a pickup, a. K. A. Donte Thornton. A. K. A.

Taekwong Thornton.

Yeah. I mean, all the Thortons, let's throw Besh in there. His name is also Thornton. Geno Smith, he was the quarterback for last week. Besh doesn't play football. Two of his three games, he has been at 10 or more yards per pass attempt. That is, only Lamar and Jeno have done that for context. That's as many games of 10 plus yards per pass attempt as Justin Herbert has for his entire career. So he's chucking it. He is slinging it. And Chicago's pass defense has not been very good. Their star cornerback, Jalen Johnson, just got surgery, so he will be out. He's not out for the season, but he's gone for a while. A big over under 47. 5. It's indoors. A lot of things I look for. I think Gino Smith is a pickup and play.

And I want to remind people, Justin Fields could be a very good start this week. If he's back off the concussion protocol, he does get extra time with the Monday night football game facing Miami. Miami's 25th against quarterbacks. Dead last in place, success rate and expected points per play. It's a really good matchup, and Justin Fields has the legs. So if he's back from the concussion, which I don't know if we'll get word on that before Thursday, but just pay attention to that because I think he would be a streaming candidate. He had a great week one, a dud of a week two with the concussion, but definitely an option.

Yeah, I'd go right back to Fields if I had him. You get Miami, and then you get Dallas the next week for Justin Fields.

Speaking of Dallas, people want to know if they can drop Dak.

Man.

Here's what you can't do. You can't play Dak. Okay, so Dak-So then you got to roster two. Exactly. I have this situation in a lot of places. Where I have him, I have the stack. And because Because of that, I am waiting. I'm going to roster Dack. But what you have to do is you have to look at, do you have enough bench space to actually roster two? If you don't, then you have to move on from Dak and cut him. But you should not be starting Dak right now. His schedule is brutal, and he doesn't have CeeD Lamb, and he doesn't have a strong offensive line for a couple more weeks.

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