Transcript of EXCLUSIVE AUDIO! Tyler Robinson's Grandfather Regarding His Rifle. | Candace Ep 327 New

All right, you guys, happy Monday! A super happy Monday, actually, because I'm out of my boot finally. I'm free. And of course, we go off air on Friday and then Trump begins tweeting me again from Air Force One this time. I honestly am not quite sure what triggered, uh, his little meltdown, but apparently he says I am dying fast, so I gotta get my affairs in order. Two tweets from the leader of the free world about how I am a nobody. I think that's four tweets in total. I feel like maybe the opposite might be true. But first, we have exclusive audio of Tyler Robinson's grandfather, uh, the original owner of the rifle that was found after Charlie Kirk was killed. The one that the bomb dogs couldn't detect because their noses— remember, their noses malfunctioned that day. The one that the feds led the police officers to, the rookie police officers to, after the dogs had already searched that particular area. Wouldn't it be kind of interesting to hear what Grandpa thinks? Does he think Tyler Robinson is guilty? Do you think Tyler Robinson is guilty? Let's find out. Welcome back to Candus. So I am sure that all of you guys saw saw my rant on Friday.

It was on Instagram, also on X. Of course, we were not on air during Tyler Robinson's continuance hearing, and I was just being driven crazy. So thank you especially to all the people in our book club who allowed me to vent about it for a little bit. I was pretty fired up. Anyway, uh, first things first, a sleuth contacted me from the courthouse of a Tyler Robinson hearing. They had recorded— they were able to record Tyler Robinson's grandfather while he was having a conversation with the reporter Elizabeth Lane. Now, out of courtesy, I did alert Elizabeth Lane that I was sent this and that I was in possession of the recording and that I intended to use it. She said that she had already sort of spoken about her conversation with him, so I think we are in the all clear here. But apparently there was a break during the hearing and someone was lingering behind Tyler's grandfather and a group of people as he spoke to Elizabeth. and what he has to say is quite interesting. And foremost, before we play it, I want to just say that his presence in general should interest you, right?

Because we have been told by many liars on the internet that Tyler Robinson's family does not support him. To the contrary, they turned him in. Remember, they recognized grandpa's gun on the news. Dad or mom recognized grandpa's gun on the news, which is weird because the news did not actually release a photo of grandpa's gun. They just released a photo of something similar. Anyways, the story goes, according to the liars, that they then convinced him to turn himself in. They think their son's guilty, they're going to testify against him. Now, I have told you from the very beginning that that is simply not true, that his father does not believe that he did it. His grandmother has spoken to journalists and she said that she does not believe that he did it. Rather— and also I should say, uh, Sheriff Brooksby did admit that rather the, the truth is that Tyler Robinson was essentially coerced to go in, right? We can do this the easy way or we can do this the hard way sort of a situation. He and his family were told that they were going to make an arrest either way, and if he didn't want the SWAT team or whoever it is that comes in to bang down the door and hold him, hold a weapon to his face and put his parents at risk, then he better do things the easy way.

Like I said, the question here is what does his grandfather think? Because he knows that gun. It's his gun, right? It's a family heirloom. It is his gun, or was his gun before it was passed down to Tyler Robinson. So he knows that weapon better than anyone. Let's take a listen. And of course, I'm accounting for sound. We've tried to use AI, bring the voices up and get rid of the background sound. Um, here's what his grandfather had to say briefly at the hearing.

Some of them have a stash of food in there. Oh, they did? Like crappy food or snacks? Yeah. What are you guys preparing? What are you for? Tyler or the other— grandparents. Grandparents. Oh, your grandparents. Oh, I'm really sorry you're going through this. Yeah, it's tough for you guys.

Yeah, sucks.

We're here to support Yeah, we think your grandchild is absolutely brilliant, but I'm an investigative journalist.

Well, I know you.

I'm very honored for the awesome work you do.

Man, you know, you're a godsend. Like, I— and I can tell you that you're very right. That's why. Yeah.

And my dad was a cop for years. He showed me all of this. Yeah, of course, but Well, hold up, hold up. Granddad says that he is here to support— he's here to support his grandson. It sounds like he is of the same opinion as Tyler Robinson's grandmother, that he did not do this, that he was not capable of doing this. And for clarity, grandpa asserts that he himself is a hunter, right? He also says that his father, the that would be Tyler Robinson's great-grandfather, was a cop for a while in that town who taught him ballistics. And he says that that is not what a.30-06 would do. Now, that is evident to everyone. Everyone keeps focusing on, of course, um, our big reveal that the, the.30-06 did not go through. But the part that you're missing is it also did not cause any significant damage, okay? They had tried to early on, people, um, that were in the hospital making phone calls to various people and saying, uh, that Charlie's like the— that basically he, he almost had no neck left. That was untrue. Those early phone calls that went out to various people who I will not name because obviously I was in communication with many people that day and we spoke on the phone.

We were the ones that got phone calls from the hospital initially. They were telling people that Charlie basically had no neck left. That was a huge lie. Outside of the wound, Charlie was in very good shape. And yes, Granddad, that is not what a.30-06 would do. So we're looking at all the situation, everything that's happened coming into this now probable cause hearing, which is supposed to happen in May, um, and which they are now meeting at a hearing as they did on Friday to say, no, we, we, we are not ready to meet in May because we're not being given what we're asking for. So first, let's recap what a probable cause hearing is, right? That's important. It's important that you understand what a probable cause hearing is. And you will recall, you can go back in my older episode, you'll recall that after my sit down with Erica, I dutifully reported to you all that when I asked Erica what evidence she had that Tyler Robinson, that had convinced her that Tyler Robinson had committed this crime, since she had been publicly representing that she was so confident that he was the guy, she was telling Barry Weiss, yes, 100%.

My assumption was that Erica and her counsel had access to more information than the public, right? That was my assumption. Something that was a slam dunk, like a video of Tyler Robinson, a very clear video of, that's our guy, Tyler Robinson. None of this grainy nonsense. Maybe a video of him taking the shot, right? That would make me, as the widow, say, I am 100% certain that's the guy. Something along those lines would have gone a very long way in terms of explaining her certainty. Which she expressed throughout multiple media interviews, actually. Uh, but to, to my shock, she phoned her lawyer, as I told you, and he explained that actually they had nothing, nothing more than the public had. And then he went through great pains to explain to me very slowly what exactly a probable cause hearing was, because he was kind of making it seem like, oh, well, we obviously, we don't have more than the public has. Don't you know how this thing works? And he explained to me that they were in the period where the state was supposed to go out and find the evidence. So they don't have any evidence yet.

Remember, that's December 15th. I'm sitting down with them. No, we don't have any evidence more than the public has, but we're now in the period where the state is going to go find the evidence. And then once they find that evidence, he told me, they're going to hand it over to the defense. They're going to hand it over to Tyler Robinson's team. So that they could prepare arguments. They get to see the evidence and prepare arguments. Of course, you're the defendant. And then they present probable cause hearing. That is what I was told by Erica's lawyer on December 15th. So to put it in layman terms, the goal for the prosecution in this probable cause hearing is to say, your honor, look at all this evidence that we have gathered. That's our guy. There is in fact probable cause for us to continue this case. There's enough proof that that young man should continue to be held in prison as this trial moves forward. And if you're playing defense, the goal is the exact opposite. The goal is to say, Your Honor, the evidence that they have presented is actually fraudulent. These text messages, yeah, they're fake.

They're— these are just— they made these on AI, and here's the proof. So yeah, it might be relevant that at the recent public hearing for the continuance, we learned from Tyler Robinson's team that they can't actually make any arguments on the defense because the FBI is refusing to hand over the evidence that they have been requesting for this supposed to be probable cause evidentiary hearing. Okay, all the FBI is giving is their summary reports. I, Kash Patel, say that this is the gun. Trust me, bro. Love Cash App. Okay, take a listen to Tyler Robinson's defense attorney Richard Novak explain that, yeah, they have the summary reports, but we don't have the data, the proof, the chain of custody to show that any of this is real. Take a listen.

What is actually outstanding is, yes, but most importantly, the, the data The, the electronic quantification digitization of physical evidence taken from our client and certain objects that leads these forensic examiners to conclude that there are matches. Mr. McBride says, oh, there's two different things, and so they're both right because they each independently reach the same conclusion, but they're testing different objects in different labs. With different protocols. We don't even have those, those data. Without that, those data files, we can't even start to analyze, to understand, to appreciate the conclusions, the statistical analyzes, the results of those tests. So yeah, the, the, the, the bench notes and the, the protocols that were followed. Yeah, that's all important. But we don't even have the data files. And there's no reason that I am aware of that has been provided why the ATF and the FBI— first of all, the ATF, why they provided it in the last 3 weeks and why the FBI still hasn't. And so I don't think it's going to be a dribble of this and that and this and that. It should have all been produced, some of it 6 months ago, because we have DNA reports from September of 2025 that Mr. Gray relied upon for his information.

Yeah, they instantly came out and said, this is our guy, 33 hours, and they were basing it on evidence. And for some reason, they were unable to get that evidence over to the defense. Now, it actually gets worse because the prosecution, we learn, is planning to present 35 exhibits at probable cause hearing. 35, let's call that pictures, if you will. Uh, which will, of course, we can assume include the text messages that they very early on released to the public, right? The ones that sounded like they fell out of a Jane Austen novel. My love, this, that, I did everything, he ate a Z. Well, of course, we were first told that those were Discord messages, but now they are text messages. And you're about to hear Kathy Nestor assert— that's another person on Tyler Robinson's team— that they have not yet even been given access to Tyler Robinson's phone. Could you imagine going into a hearing and they're going to be like, look at these text messages, this proves he did it, and you, you didn't even get access to your client's phone? Because I'm assuming obviously they took his phone. Take a listen to her say that.

I also have not been able to get into my client's phone. The, the electronics that we have, um, required an expert to— because they're so massive, we had to all get these huge hard drives shipped to us from our digital expert. I have not looked at my client's phone, and that concerns me, especially because the state's indicated they may call individuals, um, uniquely connected to my clients. I'm not going to say who because I don't want to commit you guys if you call them or not, but we've been given the names of some witnesses they may call, and what is on my client's phone I think is going to be really important.

Yeah, I think it's going to be really important too, because that's what everybody has been saying is the slam dunk proof— he confessed, did all of these messages. Oh, we're gonna bring up Tyler— we're gonna grab Lance Twigs to talk about these messages that he received. And the defense can't prepare any arguments because they have no forensic information regarding whether— I don't know, was Lance holding both phones at the same time and texting himself? Did it actually happen on Discord? Did it happen on the phone at all? Did they make up these text messages entirely? Did the feds make them up, right? Because I, I could make up screenshots right now and claimed that these were real messages, but only an expert, a forensic expert that's given access to electronics, could determine if they were real, where they were sent from, all the data, the location, to make sure that everything is authentic. Now remember, this is supposed to be, we are told, a state case, but of course we all remember the FBI immediately interjected. They took over everything on September 10th. They handled all of the interviews. And so what that means is that the State Bureau of Investigations, okay, that's the SBI, basically has their hands tied behind their back.

They've said that we have our hands tied behind our back. We are essentially waiting. The defense is explaining that the SBI is waiting for the FBI, Kash Patel's agency, to send them over their many discovery requests from everything they gathered on that day. And they're just not doing it in a timely fashion. Kathy Nestor even claims that they haven't even seen the gun. Imagine just getting a picture. This is the gun your client fired. Like, okay, can I see? Here's a picture, man. Just trust Kash Patel. He could very much be trusted. Take a listen.

We went to examine physical evidence this past week. Um, this week we— it took us 6 hours We did finish the— what the FBI has. Um, however, we still have never seen the gun. We don't— the gun is at Quantico, so we've never been able to look at the gun. I actually think that's really important for purposes of the hearing. Um, so I have some concerns about that.

Why is the gun being kept at Quantico in Virginia? Why is the gun being kept with the feds for a state case? Why doesn't the FBI have that? Why are they getting trickled-down information from Cash? Can anybody make sense of any of that. I mean, the important thing that I want to stress to you is how abnormal it is that the prosecution— Erica's team, because she's listed as the victim— is arguing against a continuance. I, I am, as you know, perpetually involved in lawsuits. Continuances are basically like common courtesies when you're this early on in a lawsuit, right? And suddenly an attorney can't make it because he's got some personal emergency. Oh, he, uh, actually I'm going to be on vacation that week. So-and-so just found out that his trial, uh, is, is going to be moved that week because, you know, lawyers are doing various trials at the same time. I have never in all of my personal experience, even when the lawyers hated each other, okay, like my lawyers did not get along with Daily Wire lawyers, okay, one in particular really not like him, always just common courtesy. Yeah, we can bump the date to something that works for all sides.

Right? Because we just want to— we want to get to the truth and the conclusion here. We don't need to like try cheap shots and like, oh yeah, I can't honor the fact that you have a surgery, your son has a surgery on that day, or this is going on, whatever it is. So this is in fact extraordinary. It's extraordinary the prosecution is arguing this, especially since they all agreed early on that they were happy to adjust the date if they did not get the discovery met. Okay, so I do also want to address the many people who were wondering, um, after I did my little rant on Instagram, how it is that Erica can assert right to a speedy trial, something that we all know is constitutionally guaranteed for defendants in cases. You have a right to a speedy trial. Uh, to note this and for clarity, Erica Kirk is in fact listed as the official victim in this case, okay? On January 16th, she then filed a motion for a speedy trial in Utah. I can show you that. You can see this, it says, um, a motion an invocation of speedy trial rights.

I— this was unusual. Uh, the key thing that you have to remember of how this is possible is this is a state trial, not a federal one. The state of Utah has its own codes for victims, which include a victim's right to a speedy trial. Again, that's a state code, so that's how she's able to maneuver that. And I remember when I saw that news when it broke back in January, I couldn't really comprehend it. It was so atypical to me because Common sense, of course, a defendant, okay, doesn't want to be sitting in jail. So a defendant usually wants the trial to be speedy. Rarely do you hear the prosecution, I'm going to file a thing that I want this to be speedy. The defendant's sitting in jail like, yeah man, me too, I don't want to just like live here, I'd like it to be as fast as possible. So I was wondering, why is Erica needing to assert something that is kind of self-evident, right? Well, now looking at everything and having paid attention to this hearing, it just makes more sense to me. I believe this is fully the prosecution strategy.

I believe they do not have a case. I am in contact with many people all throughout the state of Utah, okay? I think they want a show trial. I think Erica's team wants a show trial. They do not want to hand over crucial or critical evidence before the probable cause hearing. Instead, they want to pretend they're being transparent. They want to demand cameras inside of the courtroom. And then deliver the show trial, the show hearing of the century, right? With the defense completely unable to meaningfully counter anything that they present, right? They would be up there, look at these text messages, Your Honor. Look at the— he said he did it, he did it 3 times, and it felt good, Your Honor, that he did this. Not mentioned, uh, we haven't actually proven that these messages are real. Look at this gun, Your Honor. Look at this. Do you admit that this is your gun? Do you recognize this gun? Not mentioned. The defense has never seen the gun. We're actually hiding it at Quantico, and we can't even prove that this weapon was fired actually on the day of Charlie's assassination. We can't prove that.

Bomb dog, uh, their noses were malfunctioning. That's my honest opinion when I look at everything that's happening in the state of play. The prosecution wants to rush the public into a show trial because they have already proven, uh, that they have the commentariat on lock. All of these people on the internet who will hysterically claim that the evidence is overwhelming and astounding and undeniable. It's so overwhelming, I can't even hear anything else. It's just so overwhelming that Tyler Robinson did this alone on a rooftop. And I want to be clear that that is horrific. That is horrific that they are willing to do that, because what are they doing there actually, in effect? What they are doing is they are remanding an increasingly plausibly innocent young man, a 22-year-old, to his death. Okay, he is facing the death sentence. So you better be pretty sure when you are out here saying that this is his gun and he did it and the evidence overwhelming that you know what you're talking about, that you are actually involved and reading the documents. What they're saying is they would be comfortable sending this kid to the gallows because, well, they're getting paid to influence people that way.

Clearing a $5K check, $7K check, I'll take it, whatever. If he's gotta die, he's gotta die. That is not the karma that I would want hanging over my head and in my life, okay? You inevitably reap what you sow. You want to foster this sort of a, a legal system that just can pay journalists to put in influencers, uh, to pretend that they're they're anxiety-induced looking at the evidence that isn't there. That will come back to bite you, I promise you. You reap what you sow. I don't know how they do it. I am not capable of lying in that way, uh, but we will see what happens because apparently we are in Generation Lie Right to Your Face, or really in that era. I shouldn't say to generation, but it's just certainly an era. It's a turning point era. In the Turning Point Era's tour They will have one day. It was just different eras, you know. It was like the Just Charlie Kirk era, and he was talking about free markets and capitalism. Then it was like the Erica and Charlie era, and suddenly it's all about faith. But these pastors are looking kind of shady, looking a little bit shady, right?

What kind of pastors these are? I don't know what I would dress up to the Eras tour for these pastors. You could be moving weapons if you wanted to. And right now they are definitely in their lying a lot era. Okay, now despite the fact that we learned last week that the Secret Service could not accommodate Erica Kirk— she did not feel safe despite them telling her that she was perfectly safe in Georgia, uh, she got back on her plane despite already being there, and she just didn't trust them, right? She didn't think this super— the Secret Service could handle it despite them saying no threat. That was Tuesday of last week. By Friday, gratefully, Erika was all better. She decided that the threats to her life and livelihood could in fact be taken care of. They could actually be assuaged by the Secret Service. And so she opened for Trump at the Dream City Church in Phoenix. Now, since we all know that the real reason that she canceled the event at the University of Georgia was because of the crowd size, this makes perfect sense. It also makes perfect sense that the very first thing that she said when she came out onto the stage with her preferred WWE music was this.

Take a listen. Erika Kirk. Welcome!

Look at this crowd!

That's what it's about. That is what it's about. It's about the crowd, okay? It's about the crowd. That's why she canceled on JD and made him look like a fool. Now, in case you're thinking, well, maybe she kept this particular engagement with Trump because it's in her hometown, it's in Phoenix, Arizona, it's in her backyard, you should know that you would be wrong. Because on this very same day, on Friday of last week, as she was preparing to do this event with Trump, and yes, that obviously, we all know Turning Point USA is located there, um, her Turning Point team canceled her appearance at Pinnacle High School, which was slated to appear, uh, was slated to occur this week, but they canceled it on Friday. And the reason that they again gave was death threats against Erica's life. Let's read that email that went out. Again, this went— came— went out from Turning Point. Hey everyone, I wanted to share some important news about the event with Erica Kirk. Unfortunately, we are unable to host her at Pinnacle High School after school due to serious death threats that she has received over the past few days.

We are taking her security extremely seriously as these threats are not empty, and we must prioritize Erica's safety and well-being. I sincerely apologize for this change, but it is crucial that we ensure a safe environment for everyone involved. Okay, so she can't make it to the high school, but she can make it to the Trump rally because she knows it's going to be a crowd, then she can pretend the crowd was for her even though it's for Trump. And I gotta say, for Trump, it's kind of a small crowd. Okay, I've seen Trump sell out stadiums. Like, that's not a big crowd for Trump. But whoa, look at this crowd all here to see me! And she's again using the death threat thing. Gratefully, it was not me that had to clock her on this lie. I'm so grateful it wasn't me this time. The entire media apparatus actually came down and told the truth. No, she did not cancel because of death threats. She canceled because there was a boycott which was led by the parents and the teachers and the students who do not want Erica Kirk at their school. She is not favored by the students, okay?

Just like she's not favored by the people who work under her. Here's a Newsweek headline, uh, they wrote, 'Erika Kirk's high school talk sparks furious backlash from parents.' That's reality. Here's a Daily Beast: 'High school moves Erika Kirk event off campus after students revolt.' That is reality. Here is the local Arizona Republic: 'A high school group invited Erika Kirk to campus. Parents are not happy.' That is the reality. When you read the, um, actually read these articles, what they're telling you is the truth. I showed you last week they were organizing on Facebook. I've never, by the way, asked anybody to boycott, do nothing with Erica Kirk. So don't pretend like people are doing this because of me. They are doing this because they find her to be increasingly unbelievable, right? She's not authentic. She's not like Charlie Kirk. She doesn't have the Charlie Kirk factor. She has approached everything like an elitist, like she was born for this role, and everyone all hail Queen Erica, and how dare you notice that I've lied about all of my qualifications and about who I am and where I come from and how I was raised. How dare you.

That is not going to click with the general public. So yes, you can continue to hide behind Donald Trump, which is going to be her new move. She's going to have to essentially just keep opening up for Donald Trump and people that are bigger than her. I mean, she could open up for Drewski, she could probably open up for Tucker Carlson, there would be a crowd there. But Erica cannot draw a crowd by herself yet. Yet. Maybe there's gonna be a moment where she, um, decides to be honest sit down, say, here's all my text messages with everybody, and let me answer every question about why I behave like that. Maybe she'll do 3 hours with Joe Rogan. He thinks she's weird too, but maybe she'll sit down and she'll, uh, just go, yeah, you know, I shouldn't have done that, and here's the reason why, and I did do that, and yeah, I'm— I did actually lead all those early attacks against Candus quietly that she found out about. Yeah, I did call people fake crying and telling them not to go to the Catholic event she was speaking at. I know I've been playing nice, but I'm actually a little bit evil.

I'm a little bit evil, I'm kind of possessed. And then people will go, wow, that was really— it was really honest. I like that because there's even something relatable about someone who just kind of is openly honest, right? It feels less manipulative. I said that— I was speaking to someone and I said, we all knew Hillary Clinton was evil, right?

She's got—

she's got a past. Like, when she— Trump was like, she should be in prison. I mean, now Trump should definitely be like in prison, right? But, uh, We— she still had a real following. That, that was not imagined. I mean, I had people that were at war with each other, people that were voting for her, tons of women. She had the feminist movement behind her. That was a real audience. That was not imagined. There was no illusion. That was not special effects. Hillary Clinton definitely had a following, but we knew she was evil. Why? Because there is something even relatable about evil when it's honest. You know, Hillary Clinton's like, I am just ambitious. And I will say this, Hillary Clinton was smart. She wasn't playing the part. Would she have like totally made Bill step aside? What is she, 100%, 1,000%? Who knows what she— like, it was, you know, their relationship. As Elizabeth Lane said, nobody's ever accused him of being in love. Uh, she was highly ambitious, but she was also— she is highly intelligent. She is infinitely more intelligent than Bill, okay? She knows policy, she knows what she's doing. She is, in fact, if we're talking about just based on intellect and experience, she would be qualified to hold a position in cabinet as she did.

Like, that's not, that's not crazy. That's not her just being given a crown. Hillary Clinton worked hard in her life, right? No one ever accused Hillary Clinton of being stupid, is my point. We are getting something entirely different with Erica, right? We are getting like especially white male men, and we're being gaslit about that, and we're being told that she's overqualified and she graduated Uh, both— she says two different— she says she's graduated summa cum laude, and sometimes she says she's graduated with other honors, and nothing has been proven. And they just want us to think that she's Charlie, and she's not. So we'll see. We will keep monitoring what is happening. Like I said, there is— these revolts are happening all around the nation. She is actually, in effect, destroying everything that Charlie built. And we'll see how much longer they limp on and keep up this illusion. Trump can't save you. Uh, Trump actually can't even save himself. We'll talk about more regarding Trump when we come back from a brief break. All right, you guys, Mother's Day is one of the most beautiful times of year to share life-changing news. Maybe you have seen that moment— a family gathers around, someone smiles and says, 'Next year we'll have a brand new mom in the family.' There's nothing like it.

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So when Trump gets in office, it's going to be different. Ah, don't you wish those days where we just all looked at each other and you were like, yeah, it's the Republicans. I was like, yes, the Democrats. I just, ah, just, I want a little bit of nostalgia right now. I just want to miss it for a second. And now we've woken up and we realize it's both sides. It is both sides. We are the big losers. We are the forgotten Americans. And Trump is just doing it dirtier than anybody else, maybe because it's the last 4 years. He doesn't care, you know, just did some deals with the devils, doing deals with a lot of devils actually. We're going to talk about that. And I have to say how sad it is. I I was doing today's episode and I like almost forgot that Trump tweeted twice about me on Friday. That's kind of sad, right? That's how you know you're just slipping into irrelevancy. You're the president of the United States, you tweet, and it's not even making the news like it used to because it's just too long. You're just saying too much.

No one wants to read it. They don't have time. I have a book club. Maybe we'll read it in one of my book club meetings. I have no idea what on earth he was watching aboard Air Force One on Fox News that set off his little spree of anger this time, but he wrote this on Truth Social: I'm on Air Force One heading to Las Vegas in Arizona for greetings and speeches on no tax on tips, a windfall for our great American citizens. I am watching one of the least attractive and talented people on all of television, Jessica Tarlov. Her voice is so grating and terrible I had to turn her off. Her Democrat sound bites are fake. She makes up poll numbers and nobody challenges her because she's so boring. I have among the best poll numbers I have ever had. And why shouldn't I? All the country does is win. CNN had me at 100%, saying they never saw that before. Get her off air, she is bad for our country. I hear Megyn Kelly, Tucker Carlson, and Candace Owens are dying fast. Their numbers are terrible. Nobody believes them anymore. They were fake MAGA, and now they've been exposed.

President DJT. He's definitely not writing these, just so you guys— this isn't even how he speaks. This is not how he speaks. So I don't know who has access to this feed, but it's not Trump, okay? It's just not Trump. He had a second tweet as well, a follow-up, where he— I think he called me mentally ill. He called me mentally ill. Um, he mentioned Megan Kelly again. She didn't get a name that time. Sorry, Megan. Looks like you're dying fast because I got called like 3 names over the weekend. You only got called 2. So I'm, I'm big, big time now. But it makes you wonder, who is actually drafting these messages? Who even are Trump's advisors anymore? He used to be surrounded by sane and rational people. Now he is accusing people like me and Tucker and Megan of being irrelevant and mentally ill. Meanwhile, Laura Loomer claims she is his number one advisor and she speaks to him almost daily. And that right there might be the biggest clue as to why Trump is behaving like he is off the rails, right? It's kind of like you eventually just become the people that you spend your most time with and you spend your most time speaking to, right?

You become an average. And so Charlie Kirk went from— I mean, uh, President Trump went from Charlie Kirk, right? Charlie Kirk had his ear, to Laura Loomer. And I think you guys need to more fully grasp not just who Laura Loomer is, but what Laura Loomer is, okay? I met Laura Summer years ago, I was on the way to do one of my first events, the David Horowitz Center, and we happened to be on the same plane. She was crying because Twitter had removed her checkmark. This was back when Jack Dorsey had it. Since we lived nearby, I was friendly with her, never had an issue with her because I just don't see a reason to start with people and have issues with people. There are tons of crazy people. And, um, yeah, I felt very sad for her too because she was sort of living in a rented basement in Westchester by herself, and she didn't have any friends that could take her to go get her wisdom teeth out. And she asked me if I could pick her up, right? And I never shared that story because it was— I felt sad for her.

Like, she had no friends and no family in her life that could pick her up after a procedure that she needed to get done. And I did that, right? And don't worry, because her differing opinion on me on Israel is going to be the reason that she starts attacking me now. The first thing that you should know about Laura Loomer is that when people say Laura Loomer is crazy, they're not, they're not being funny, right? Laura Loomer is genuinely crazy. We're gonna get into that. She's not even Jewish. Her entire identity as being a feisty Jewess is something that she made up around 2019. She told me that she was not Jewish. She told most, most people that she is not Jewish. Her mother is a woman named Joanne Singe. Laura is Irish and English. Obviously, Judaism is matrilineal. She did not, she was not raised in temple. She was not bat mitzvahed. She just decided that it was politically expedient to pretend that she was Jewish. She only learned how to draw a Star of David a couple of years ago when she was running for Congress. Okay, here's a clip of her learning to draw a Star of David a couple of years ago.

This is your number one Zionist. On X. Look at this clip. All right, there we go.

Very good. They're almost identical.

And don't take photos of this.

I don't want people know. The second thing that you should know is that Laura Loomer has a real mental disorder. Like I said, people would be, oh, this person's crazy, she's mentally ill, right? Trump says this. No, Laura is actually forbidden to own weapons. She cannot buy weapons, she cannot own them because she was placed on two involuntary psychiatric holds by her own father, who allegedly is very fearful of her because she has had multiple suicide attempts. She attempted recently to file an appeal with the FBI to reverse the banning on her owning weapons, and they declined to remove it, citing the fact that she had been involuntarily placed on psychiatric holds. Now, according to her former campaign manager, Milo Yiannopoulos, who she has never sued and simply blocks. He wrote and published a piece which should be read by everybody, and in that piece he wrote this, quote: Laura Loomer has been diagnosed at various times and by various doctors as suffering from bipolar disorder, histrionic personality disorder, borderline personality disorder, and narcissistic personality disorder. Loomer's mother, whom we are not naming today, is an alcoholic, a manic depressive, and suffers from bipolar disorder in common with her daughter.

Loomer has two brothers. One is a violent schizophrenic who is permanently incarcerated in a psychiatric facility. He will never be released. The other also suffers from depression and mood disorders and has been in and out of institutions all his life. Okay, end quote. Now, um, it's interesting that she's given access to the president of the United States. Everyone sees that this is a fatal attraction. In fact, I am told by people in Melania's circle that they believe, like, yeah, actually the most likely person to harm Donald Trump would be Laura Loomer. And yet this completely somehow evades the president. He allows her in his circle. The question is is why. And it's not just that she lies, it's not just that she is bipolar, it's not just that she often says that she's going to commit suicide as a threat when she doesn't get what she wants. But Laura Loomer is also a malignant sexual predator and has been repeatedly accused since the beginning of her career of raping and sexually assaulting men. That is not a typical thing that men come out with, that men come out and say, um, a woman sexually assaulted me.

Right? Take for example Alan Jacoby. This happened just last week, 10 days ago. He is the founder of Patriot Cigar, and he just tweeted this 10 days ago: Laura Loomer is a sexual predator psychopath. I was in fact a victim of her wrath. Loomer and I spent the day with President Trump at Bedminster watching the golf tournament from the president's box. She asked me several times for a selfie. As you can see, that lean line does not lie. She constantly got uncomfortably close to me. She groped me in the parking lot, grabbing my crotch very aggressively and demanding that I come back to her New York City hotel room to engage in some vile, descriptive sexual activities. She's an absolute psychopath who preys on men who she thinks that she can manipulate. She's a menace to society. Again, there are just a, a long line of men who have come out with a story like this. If you don't believe him, here is a video of— it has been going viral many times— of Laura trying to seduce a young man who is clearly uncomfortable on camera. Take a look at this.

Your hair and your eyes look so good. You're like beautiful.

Thank you.

Like an Aryan degenerate goddess.

Thank you.

I love it.

Thank you. Thank you. You're Aryan too.

I know, but I'm Jewish.

It's okay because you're such a cutie. Don't mess my hair. God, fix it. Fix my hair. Did you fix it?

I did. But like that picture you posted on Instagram recently when you got like reinstated on Facebook was so hot. Like Seriously, I appreciate it. It's so good.

It's a good picture.

Your skin and the Nazis hate me.

It's fun.

The alt-right people want to put me in a gas chamber because they're obsessed with the Jews.

I don't— I think they're just memeing on you, but it's okay. It's okay.

I don't care. I love it.

It'd be like that sometimes.

I know, they're just jealous because I had big tits and an Ashkenazi IQ.

Yes, that's what it is. You got Got it.

Anyway, next time you're in New York, let me know. We'll hang out. Bring your girlfriend to New York sometime and we'll all hang out. We'll go to like really cool restaurants and hang out and have a blast.

Yes, I will bring my girlfriend.

Yeah, I want to meet— what's Becca?

Yeah, Becca.

Yes, she's so sweet.

You remembered.

Yeah, of course.

Yes, you'll meet her.

You guys are so sweet. I hope that works out because like, like I said, I know it's all an act. Like, I know everything you do on Twitter is like so fake and not real, but like It's all fake. So sweet that you like— and your girlfriend have been together for 3 years. I love it.

I know, it's all an act.

You know, like, do you know something? Like, I'm gonna tell you a secret. Like, do you know so many people in this movement who preach trad life are like people on the side and like cheating on their partners?

That's so bad.

They're not even like really— like, like, my ex is like dating somebody who's like super trad life, and she was like my boyfriend while we were dating and like ruined our relationship. And I act like it's okay, but like, it's It's really sad because like I love, I love when people like keep, you know, tradition in their relationships. This is really sad.

Milo Yiannopoulos similarly described, and again he published this, her repeated assault on a young Brazilian man who worked on her campaign. And he's not alleging here, okay? He claims that it is a fact that he can prove through many messages. Take a listen.

Laura Loomer, who's the most insane person, and I was, you know, it was good friends with Laura Well, no, I was not good friends with Laura. I was loose allies with Laura until I met her. And then when I met her properly and spent time with her, I realized she was absolutely fucking mental. I distanced myself very quickly. Well, I distanced myself because she used to force herself on young male volunteers, 20, 21-year-olds. And she would go in the middle of the night. And I mean, some men will find this to be quite titillating, although— Yeah, it sounds kind of good. When you imagine sort of the face of the— of the, you know, of the Saw doll. You know, just sort of like you pull up the covers and there's a Saw doll.

"I would like to play a game." It's less enticing.

But she would climb into bed with these volunteers and fuck them off in the middle of the night. Sorry to use that language, but I did tell you to put your children to bed.

No way, she wouldn't go and sexually assault random guys.

You just know them? Well, I'm telling you because I lived in the pool house with her. With her victim in 2020 who didn't know how to make it stop. He was a young Brazilian volunteer on her 2020 congressional campaign. I know because I helped to run that campaign, okay? So don't tell me you don't believe it. I was there. She was creeping into bed with him and she convinced herself that they were in love and he was coming to me every day saying, how do I make this stop?

You say, fuck it off me. I mean, that didn't seem that hard.

I mean, yeah, I mean, you would think that, but this is a young guy who's, you know, there are I never really understood when people talked about power dynamics in rape before. I was like, okay, fine, either you want the sex or you don't, whatever. But I kind of got it when this young man, which surprised me greatly, said, well, this was Laura Loomer, I didn't know how to say no. I said, what do you mean it's Laura Loomer? He said, well, she's like Laura Loomer. And I said, what does that mean? He's like, well, she might be a congressman, a congresswoman, like, I don't know if it's okay to like— and so I realized in that moment, especially because it was a man, which was so peculiar and confusing to me, It was bizarre to me, but he meant it, and he was asking me how to make it stop.

There are women who have spoken out and said that these— that this is real, that she has assaulted many men. Uh, so, and like I said, she's never sued any of these people for putting this information out there. Instead, she just blocks them. So the question becomes, why does Donald Trump allow her anywhere near the White House? Okay, maybe the answer can be best summed up in her tweets to Benny Johnson. When he said, you know, pray for your enemies, Laura Loomer responded, don't pray for your enemies, Benny. Pray for your enemies to be destroyed and celebrate when they struggle. We don't have time for compassion for evil people. Break them down and conquer them with psychological warfare until they beg for mercy. Do not pray for them. This is Laura Loomer's strategy. She believes in quote unquote psychological warfare, which means she makes up vicious rumors about people. Like she did when DeSantis was running. And Trump and his campaign found her to be quite useful when she said things like, "Casey DeSantis is making up cancer." Not something anyone would say, right? It just— it's no dignity in that. Uh, already going through a lot, you don't say someone's making up cancer.

But these are the sorts of things that she does. She starts vicious rumors and she leaves it on the person, uh, to come up for air and explain that that's not true. And people typically get flustered. That's what she thinks is going to work on me. Making up AI photos and releasing them of my husband, literal AI photos, and trying to pass them off as authentic so she can make a claim that he's gay. Accusing us of being separated like she did this weekend. Attacking my children. That was trending. Laura Loomer attacks Candus's children as feud escalates. Claiming, as she did today, that my husband got drunk and hit a man in a car while brandishing a gun. This is her tweet, and she, she named the victim. Here it is. She knows none of this is true. Candus Owens says, I don't land any hits. Mind you, I have to post the screenshot of her reply because she blocked me. I did not block her. What type of hits do you want me to land, Candus? Do you want me to land a hit like your husband George Farmer allegedly landed when he allegedly hit, AKA crashed, into Tracy Robinson's car?

While he was allegedly driving drunk with an alleged firearm in his possession as a green card holder in Nashville, Tennessee, where you live. Remember Tracy? Sore subject. When are you going to tell your viewers about Tracy Robinson instead of simping for Tyler Robinson? Come on, Candy, tell everyone who Tracy is, or should I direct them to the courts in David— Davidson County in Nashville, Tennessee? Well, by all means, I'm happy to tell everybody who Tracy Robinson is. I hadn't thought to do it because I've never met Tracy Robinson. I don't know Tracy Robinson. But certainly I, I learned his name, uh, when Laura dug up the fact that my insurance did pay a Tracy Robinson $6,987. We can show you that right here. As she said, you can find this on Nashville Courts, and it is true. As you can see, a grand total of $6,987 for brandishing a gun and hitting somebody drunk. That sounds like a steal. That sounds like if that were true people would be out there playing Grand Theft Auto. You could hit people drunk driving, just vent out some anger, and only have to pay $7K. The reality is my husband got into a fender bender pulling out of a parking lot on a rainy day in broad daylight about noon, I think it was.

The police were not even called because the two of them got out of the car, said a couple of F-U's, calmed down, shook each other's hand, and said, eh, let's not— it's not worth calling the cops. Mr. Tracy Robinson maybe had some scratch on his car. George said, "I'm happy to pay." And they exchanged insurances, drove off. And a couple of days later, Tracy decided he had post-whiplash disorder, went to the doctor, and we had to pay a grand total of $6,987. There was no drinking involved. There was no DUI involved. There were no police called. And yet this is her strategy. This is why Trump uses her, because she is willing to, in her, uh, ever-present mental disorder, to go after people's families, to make up rumors, uh, to go after my in-laws, as she has done. She has tagged them, uh, she attacks people who have nothing to do with anything. Things that most people will not lower themselves to do, um, she will do. And like she says, she believes that that breaks people Uh, psychologically, that's her goal. And Trump uses her as a pit bull. And let me tell you, Trump, you will eventually reap what you sow.

People that are in your circle that have concerns that this is a fatal attraction should be listened to. Okay? You should look into the reasons why she cannot own a gun. You should speak to your friend Roger Stone about, uh, her suicidal attempts and the things that she says and the things that she does and the accounts that she operates behind the scenes. You don't play with fire and expect not to be burned. Now, in regards to me, I can guarantee you, um, I am psychologically stronger than you. I've never had to be placed on a psychological involuntary hold, and I am not going to be intimidated by a Trump family thug who thinks that making up videos and using AI to put out rumors is going to scare me. Uh, my family— what frustrates people the most about me is we are remarkably boring. We have, uh, a very consistent family life. We really do most of our stuff with the church and with our church friends. And I advise people start living their lives that way so that they have more value, so they don't end up like Laura Loomer in a basement with no friends and family to take them to a basic appointment.

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Hope Leo. Um, yeah, you know what, you are right. Trump is a good enemy to have. I mean, it certainly is not making me think that I'm, um, dying fast. I would say that. I think that if the leader of the free world has you on his— on Air Force One, you probably do have a little bit of influence, I would say. A7 Sheets writes, Grandpa's words sum it up for me. I for the family that is being put through this. Yeah, you know me, I'm, I'm also biased towards granddads. You guys, I just love my granddad so much. My granddad's the reason I act like this. There have been so many articles written trying to get what's the secret. It's my granddad. I keep telling these people, granddad, I couldn't do anything wrong. He just adored me. I just absolutely adored me. And he was so loyal and also forthright and just very stubborn in making sure that the truth was always what was being expressed in the household. Always Be True writes, is the prosecution claiming premeditation? How did the lone gunman prep for it? When was the actual location disclosed for him to do recon?

And he's an elite sniper and parkour athlete, obviously. Trust me, bro, ain't cutting up. My— I'm getting the sense that they had multiple Tyler Robinson lookalikes that day. That's why the footage is grainy, and it's just impossible that all this footage is going to be grainy, okay? I think there were multiple Tyler Robinson lookalikes and um, they were wearing maroon shirts and wearing hats and wearing what they were supposed to wear. And they're never going to show us a clear picture of Tyler Robinson because it's very easy to find a Tyler Robinson lookalike and to blur it. That is my conspiracy theory. We will see as things transpire throughout court because I don't know how they're going to be able to sell everything was just blurry and we just couldn't get one, one clear image at all, all of these cameras, just not even one. Um, I also heard a rumor, you guys, that the footage before, um, September 10th, in the lead-up to September 10th, that police officers were trying to go, okay, well, let's also look at the days leading up to it, like the first— the two weeks leading up to it.

And that footage apparently doesn't exist either, because they had speculated that someone would have had to do some recon, maybe on this roof. How do we even know the footage is from that day? Maybe the person was on the roof another day That footage, I am told, doesn't exist. I'm trying to understand if that means that it was taken by the feds, as they took the inside of Timpanogos Hospital's footage for some reason. Maybe because he didn't go there first. Maybe because there's evidence that Charlie actually went to Utah Valley Hospital first. Um, but there seems to be an absence of a lot of footage that could go a long way in terms of clearing matters up. Um, Ave Questions writes, Trump can't— is a nobody, but he continues to tweet, and it's giving a disgruntled ex-boyfriend stalker vibes. Like, bro, Move on with your life. LMAO, go Max! God wins this spiritual war. I totally agree. I, I think that we are, we are in the truth era, and people that are lying are going to face a collapse of support. For a long time, the lies worked. They landed. They worked on us.

Like I said, I almost missed the days where I was buying the Republican versus Democrat stuff. Alas, I'm old and I'm getting older. Curious Joel writes, Erica's walkout music is giving the Imperial March from Star Wars. Who's making these decisions? That is so good. You are so right. And I've only seen Star Wars, like, each of them, like, one time, but that is totally— assuming you're talking about the bad guys, like, every time they come out. That's very funny. Curious Joel, it is giving the Imperial March from Star Wars. He asks who's making these decisions. It seems like they just— like, she's just accepting her role as an evil villain. It's a weird strategy, but okay, I guess. Hey, look, if you fully accept it, maybe there's something relatable about it. We'll see. Nikki, she just doesn't feel like the clever— Like, usually with evil, there is a genius there too. And we're not getting that yet, actually, 'cause a lot of these lies have been very stupid. Curious Joel writes, "Erica—" Oh, I'm sorry, I just read that. Nikki Schumacher writes, "As a Reformed Baptist, I cannot with Allie Beth's stuck-up." She is late and wrong often.

I remember way before COVID she went after the anti-vaxxers, AKA yours truly, with her mean girl BS. I don't know how Ali Suki just caught astray. I was reading these comments live. Nikki, I don't know if you just came off from her channel. Um, I am not a fan of her. I definitely think that I've seen the, you know, Christian thing, uh, kind of the scales have fallen from my eyes, and it is giving, like I said, It's like the Regina, uh, the Ave Regina George or something. It's— there is definitely a syndicate of mean girls who are— don't like people but pretend to wipe it, wrap it up in a Bible verse so like no one can contend with it. And I, I— the post-Charlie Kirk Allie, I am not a massive fan of, but there's an audience for everybody. May she do well. Uh, Trish Magistus, maybe. I find it strange how the first person to leak the death of Charlie Kirk is a licensed gun dealer with a shady past. Christ is King. Oh, more on that, my friends. We have not let up on Victor Marx. More on that. You are correct, it is shady.

And yeah, we should just not forget that it is for some reason very hard for Turning Point to surround themselves with pastors that do not have complicated pasts or presents. Can you say that? Past or present? Can you make present presence with an S? Past or presence? Yeah, right? Yeah, I did it. It's done. So there we go. Um, Queen Saxy writes, look at the pictures of Tyler Robinson's roommate. Honestly, part of me wonders if it was his roommate that helped set him up. I believe so. I believe he's one of the people that's walking that day. That is going to be a blurred image. He had access to Tyler's whole life, and similarly, his build and dark hair— his absence is really telling. Yep. And don't forget, I spoke with Lance Swig's family. They think that there was something wrong with the fact that he was not questioned, that he was questioned and then immediately let go. They didn't— he just— like, they're like, he's got a troubled past. This guy is much more likely to do bad things. He's done bad things. And they don't understand it, the treatment that the feds have had toward him.

That is why it is important for us to get that data from the, uh, from these phones and to make sure that he wasn't just texting from his phone, or like what time these messages went out. Why do they never want to send the timestamps? Also, tomorrow we will have for you that my producer discovered that they're making slight edits to the text messages. So that's interesting. They're dropping new text messages, making some slight edits to the old ones. There's a lot going on here, but we are on them. Ladies and gentlemen, if you would like to support our show and independent journalism, you know we have merch available on our website. Battle Bun activated t-shirts that you asked for. When you need to activate the Battle Bun You do it. Also gotta own the— actually, to me, the First Lady of France is far more beautiful woman than Candace. Yeah, for real. It's not even close. It's not even close. I want to be very clear. You know, these are our t-shirts: the Four Horsemen of MAGA, the nut jobs and the troublemakers who just want peace, right? Third-rate podcast tour. Um, and of course I told you my favorite hat that we have right now is the new looks like it says MAGA, but it's actually Make America Christian Again.

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