Transcript of Erika No-Shows JD Vance. Public Relations Lies About Why. | Candace Ep 325 New

All right, you guys, Shabbat shalom. Mommy stayed home for the first time, I might add. Ladies and gentlemen, congratulations to Erica Kirk. I gotta tell you, I am getting too old for this. I'm being serious. How old am I getting? My birthday is coming up in a couple of weeks, and this morning I was having the team help me pick out a microscope that I want as a present because I'm, I'm in my dweebing out era. I'm suddenly interested in DNA and cells, and I'm watching TikToks from lobotomists. Like, why do we have to go to the doctor for everything? Can I figure this out with the microscope? That's how old I'm getting. Too old to have to take time out of my precious day to work through the latest Turning Point public relations blunder. Blunder after blunder, lie after lie. They treat us like we are toddlers. They want us to make believe. Yesterday, Erika no-showed an event last minute, an event featuring the Vice President of the United States. How disrespectful. Well, not as disrespectful as the excuse that they are currently handing us as to why. Plus, uh, Victor Marx— Pastor Victor Marx, have some respect— he replied to me, and to be honest, the response was kind of weird.

It's just weird. I can't explain it. I'll let you guys be the judge. Welcome back to Candace. So last night, in case you missed it, in case you've been hiding under a rock, Erica Kirk was slated to appear alongside her friend Vice President J.D. Vance at the University of Georgia, and she just completely no-showed it. She stood him up. That is not casual. That is the sitting Vice President of the United States. It is low-key disrespectful, outside of a real emergency. Emphasis on the word real. It was mystifying at first, really, especially since the decision very clearly had to have been made. We were left to assume that it had been made in the umpteenth hour because the announcement was made by none other than, than Andrew Colvett on stage. This means that ticket holders were not informed until the very moment of the event. Actually, the Turning Point leaders who put together the event were not informed that she was not going to be there. How do we know? Because they were posting and promoting her appearance just 50 minutes before doors opened. Here is a video of the TPUSA staff promoting her. Take a listen.

Hey everybody, my name is Grant Teller. I'm the field representative for the Peach Territory and also the University of Georgia. And I'm Caroline, and I'm the University of Georgia chapter president. And we are here at the Akins Ford Arena, about to host JD Vance and Erica Kirk. Doors open at 1:50, so come out and support your country. We'll see you there. It looks sweet and happy and clearly not informed of what was going on. So if the story that they are going to sell to us, that there's a threat, uh, then we have to assume Erica was on the ground, right? On the ground in Georgia. Something happened and she pulled out. But she wasn't. She was back home. Which means that decision had to have already been made long before those students made that video. Yet Andrew Colvett is going to, as you are about to see, last minute onstage inform and surprise even the event planners with this message. Take a listen.

For those of you wondering why I don't have really flowing long blonde hair right now, um, so I'm gonna address it right at the front. Uh, Mr. Vice President, I'm on stage here instead of our friend Erica Kirk. That's right. Because unfortunately, she has received some very serious threats in her direction, which is terrible. It's a terrible reflection on the state of reality and the state of the country. But it underscores a larger point that she has received a lot of attacks from some surprising places, perhaps. Tell us what you think about that. Some of the people that have made, you know, part-time jobs out of attacking Erica, and this is the net result.

Oh my— it is the implication here that it's our fault? Is it my fault? Why do I feel like they're talking about me? Is that weird? Uh, she's not here. And come on, Veep, come on, explain to everybody how it's actually Candace Owens's fault. Because she's being attacked, more broadly speaking. What do I have to do with her going to an event? And by the way, this is weird, but I told you guys I'm aging. I am so old that I distinctly remember when the messaging was the exact opposite. They were sort of gaslighting us the other way. Remember, right after Charlie was assassinated, a lot of people were like, look, um, she's doing a lot. She's kind of just like doing a lot. Like, I would be pretty scared. Most of us Even people who didn't know Charlie were scared to go out their door. The world felt less safe, but his wife was just fearlessly trotting through all these events, attending, speaking. Massive, uh, sold-out 21,000 spillover crowd at State Farm Stadium. And the PR machine was like, oh, you noticed that she's doing a lot? Well, let us explain to you why she has no fear.

Let me explain to you why she's, she's abnormal. She's just, she's just sits above you all. In fact, Erica Kirk herself jumped in, and this was the reason that we were given via her interview with Jesse Watters. Take a listen. Do you feel safe?

I do. What are they going to threaten me with? Going to heaven sooner to be with my husband. And I don't say that to be reckless. I do not. I do not say that because I'm out in the streets like, here I am, come find me. And that's not at all— it's, it's It's a fearlessness that's rooted in the understanding that I will have my day and my time, whenever that is, when the Lord knows that I've completed my mission. And I'm not afraid. Charlie wasn't afraid either. We never lived in fear. If we did, we wouldn't get anything done. And I can't help run alongside this mission of Turning Point USA and raise my babies with fear. I can't. That's not a life to live for anybody.

So that was in her godlier-than-thou era, right? When we had, like I said, normal concerns like, hey, wouldn't you be kind of scared for your kids? You're doing a lot, right? No, Erica is on fire for the Lord, and that's why— you don't understand it. It's supernatural because the Lord is giving her this courage. So I'm just asking the common sense question: what changed 7 months on? What was the threat that Erica endured that was so severe 7 months later that she had to last minute cancel an event with the number 2 man of this great nation? What threat could be so severe that she didn't even trust that the Secret Service, right, the nation's Secret Service, to the vice president— he just got back doing negotiations with Iran overseas, like, has got to be a pretty good Secret Service— she did not feel that even they could alleviate it? Well, we can always rely on Andrew Colbett to further illuminate matters on Fox News. Take a listen.

It was a really unfortunate experience for me too, just to have to watch that very difficult decision get made, which I think is the first time that we've ever had to make that decision in Turning Point history. But everything that happened with Charlie, obviously his assassination, we're still grieving that. And you saw what happened with Savannah Hernandez, one of our TPUSA Frontlines reporters, in Minneapolis. And to see the security team, you know, tell us, we cannot guarantee your safety, we recommend that you don't do this, uh, was a really chilling moment for all of us to kind of have to internalize and experience and realize that Erica Kirk is, you know, her children are one parent away from being orphans. And sometimes you just have to say, listen, right now What's most important is your safety, is your security and your children, your family. Let your team handle this. Let us do what we can do. And so, you know, I obviously was horrified at the reason why, but I was honored to stand in and pinch hit for Erica last night. And I was grateful for the vice president to— that we didn't have to ultimately cancel the entire event.

He was willing to do it with me, and it was very gracious of him.

I'm sorry, guys, I'm just getting whiplash. I really, I just, I feel like that's what we were saying. Like, what could be more important than being home with your children when she was just all on the book tour and Shabbat? And we were just told, no, she's a brave soul, this is what she wants to do. And she was— the worst thing was she, she would be reunited with Charlie. And now it's so bad that it's requiring a level of Hasbro, right? They're even going to bring in their Hasbro friends over at The Daily Wire to further substantiate the matter because people are going, this feels weird. What could be so much of a threat that they just let the VP, Vice President of the United States, carry on with the event? The people are noticing this doesn't sound right to us. And so since Charlie's passing, The Daily Wire, you will note, always has the inside scoop on what's going on with Erica Kirk for some reason. And here is what they said on Twitter. They said, uh, regarding the threats of Erica— threats to Erica Kirk that prevented her from attending today's events with Vice President Pence, a TPUSA official tells me that their security had been monitoring the situation in the days leading up to today's event.

People were doxxing her travel location and trying to track her arrival and departure, I'm told. And there were multiple direct threats against Erica specifically. This ultimately led to her security's assessment that they could not guarantee her safety. The event venue itself was fine, especially once VP was on site, but it was the travel portion that was the chief concern, the official tells The Daily Wire. Her children are one parent away from being orphans, and so we take the security's assessments and advice Seriously. Okay, so a couple things right off the bat wrong with that. Um, Erica now worried about her kids. Yeah, okay. Uh, this feels like a level of propaganda that they have not hit before. Uh, you're also telling us now because you're realizing they're always responding when the public doesn't accept the, you know, the first sloppy meal that they try to feed us. They're like, okay, no, okay, you're right, doesn't make sense that the VP would be able to attend this event and Erica would not. So let's switch gears. We'll say it was related to travel. That people were tracking her plane. Um, okay, people had been actually tracking Erica's plane since the very beginning.

People were doing entire shows about where she was going and how much she was traveling and how ridiculous it was, and she never canceled a single thing. So that's just on its face not true. Secondly, um, if you're going to be a person who is a public figure and you are going to travel privately, as she does, then yeah, people are going to be able to easily guess which, which airports you're going to, which private terminals you're going to fly into. They're not going to know which FBO, but you're telling me what is the threat? What could possibly be the threat to her travel? She flies in and she flies out on a private plane that they just could not alleviate it. What did they threaten? We're going to be at the FBO. We'll be at every FBO. We'll be at Signature. We're going to be Atlantic. We will be there and we are going to boo you. What is the threat? Tell us more about this threat, which was specifically taking place with doxxing her travel schedule. What does that even mean? Her event is listed publicly. People buy tickets, or I guess not buy tickets, but they register their tickets to go to these events for free.

So you're doxxing yourself in order to be a public figure that goes on a tour, right? If you're a singer, a songwriter, you gotta say where you're going. You're doxxing yourself. But someone's tracking your plane? Well, what is the concern there that could not be alleviated? You couldn't have somebody on the ground just waiting there to make sure nobody was inside the private terminal, by the way. This woman does not fly publicly. Yeah, like I said, it had to have been something bad. I'm not buying this plane tracking excuse. It seems to me, especially they're mentioning the kids now, every time they do that, that's that— they're basically using every tool that is not even available in Erica's emotional shed. So what actually happened? Let me back up here and give you some facts about the University of Georgia. There are over 43,000 students that are enrolled at the University of Georgia. Uh, this event was, as you heard him say, scheduled to take place at the Aikens Ford Arena, uh, at the Classic Center, which is near the University of Georgia. The stadium holds just 7,000 people. So they were hoping with an announcement that the Vice President of the United States was going to be attending, that it was a guarantee that they would be able to peel off something like 15% of the student body to attend.

But actually they needed even less than that because to make matters easier for them, they also opened the tickets, the free tickets to the general public. So forget having to get 15% of the student body to sign up. They just needed generally 7,000 people in the area that wanted to support MAGA and/or the rock star widow, Erica Kirk. Reality, nobody wanted to attend. The ticket numbers were abysmal. That is what happens, and I want you to know that that is what has been happening. So in the umpteenth hour, they decided to cancel her appearance. And here is the evidence of, uh, what that event looked like. Uh, looks like here's a tweet with an accompanying clip which was taken from reporter Jake Traylor, who is reporter with MS Now. Uh, take a look at this tweet. And the accompanying video of the auditorium. He wrote, Turning Point USA seems to have misestimated crowd size for Vance. The Akins Ford Arena less than 25% filled for the vice president. Now he's assuming it's because of Vance, right, that people are not showing. Uh, could be another reason— a person who was supposed to be there until the umpteenth hour.

People could be turning down that particular opportunity, and I'm sure Everything Vance and Trump are doing at this current moment isn't helping much either. In fact, it was so bad, right? The turnout was so bad that if we go back and rewatch that Fox News clip, they're actually showing you fake footage. Well, it's not fake footage, it's real footage, but it's fake B-roll because it's from old Turning Point events. This is how sloppy the Hasbro is. We'll show you this. We'll scroll here. Not the venue. Not the venue. And yet in the corner it says Andrew Colvette via X on Tuesday, because they will hit— it says, it says Athens, Georgia. This is not true. This is true propaganda. And we took a closer look at it and they actually spliced together 3 separate events so that they could show something of substance when Andrew spoke. That is humiliating. That is humiliating. And he's there pitching a story, a sad story about why they couldn't do it because, uh, it's your guys' fault, you didn't keep Erica safe. Now, I am told by Turning Point USA college students and volunteers that this has been a repeat problem, that they similarly had a very hard time moving tickets for her event in Washington, DC with Caroline Levitt.

They just could not hit capacity. They never did, despite effectively turning these events. They're not even know why it's called a college tour anymore. It's just anybody in the public, general admission, that is willing to come listen to Erica Kirk speak for free, please come. They're going to eventually start paying people to attend these events, and they cannot sell out even a small auditorium. And yesterday, it looks like, was the worst audience turnout in Turning Point's history. Okay, let me repeat that. Under Erica Kirk's stewardship, Turning Point USA is now facing a crisis. It is the worst turnout in the organization's history, even with a feature alongside the Vice President of the United States. Similarly, they had to move the Believers Summit, something that they advertised for last year. It was slated to take place, uh, back in October, but they could not move any free tickets. Erica knew that she was not coming long before Andrew Colbett made the announcement on stage, yet She did not make a statement herself until after the event began. What gives? Here's what she wrote on X. She retweeted a clip from the event and she wrote this: I was so looking forward to tonight's event at the University of Georgia with our vice president, but after all our family has been through, I take my security team's recommendations extremely seriously.

Thank you to our amazing Georgia chapter for your support. God bless you all. I, I, I, I can't stand The lying, the constant lying, and she is not being honest. Okay? She, she moves things off of her calendar. She will make it work. I mean, she White House here. She over the weekend, she was at Bettina, Bettina at Mar-a-Lago, the one who's marrying Don Trump Jr. She was at her bridal shower. Erica will be wherever it is that she needs to be. That is not the reason that she chose not to show up. And how do we know? That this was not some last-minute cancelation related to a threat? Well, first off, common sense. I knew they were lying as soon as Andrew announced it on stage. Take it from someone who has endured a great many threats: the last thing you do is announce a threat on stage when one is happening. In fact, I have dealt with threats at Turning Point USA events where we have had to inform them— this guy who was completely insane and escaped a mental institution, or he was a mental hold and they didn't know where he was.

They alerted us, and I was doing an event in Nashville with Charlie. We had to alert the security team. Nobody goes out and says, hey, Candace has a threat, that's why she's not here. And you know what? Would you like to, JD, let me give you the stage to blame everybody for her having this threat? That is so performative and outlandish that I instantly knew that it didn't pass the sniff test. But another way that we can confirm that we know this is not real and they're making this up is because Erica was also slated to speak yesterday at 1:30 PM in Georgia at a local high school, but she canceled that event. And she didn't cancel it last second. She canceled it the day before on Monday. Okay, so Tuesday, yesterday, she has a 1:30 event, and then she has an evening event with JD Vance. But on Monday at noon, she had already informed the high school that she was not going to be in attendance. A full day before her last-minute onstage cancelation of her event with JD that the students did not even know about. So she honored the high school students with information but did not honor the college students with any information, making them look like fools outside.

Okay, and they— how did they do it? They emailed and they texted and informed the parents at school, uh, that her appearance had been canceled, and they gave a reason, and that reason was not security. Let's read it together. Here is the text that went out canceling the high school event. It reads— first, you can see they set this event up on March 30th. On Monday, you can see that it reads, Parent alert: due to scheduling complications, the optional Turning Point USA high school event scheduled for tomorrow, September 14th, has been canceled. We are sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused and are hopeful for other Turning Point USA opportunities in the future. Okay. A scheduling conflict. A scheduling conflict, not a threat, but a scheduling conflict. Now, if there were a viable threat, wouldn't it have been prudent to inform the administration of a high school, even if it was an airplane-related threat, that, oh, it must be— if it's so serious, like someone's gonna harm her, you tell the high school, hey, we have a very viable threat right now, we don't want to bring this to you. They were not informed that.

They were just told it was a scheduling issue and there was not some significant thing that was pending in the background, um, which caused her to abandon her previous God's got me philosophy. So like I said, don't you think her staff would have let the high schoolers know there was a threat? That would have been the responsible thing to do. I am told the truth is, again, that there was immediate parental backlash already that kept happening because she was announced, and they basically said, okay, this is an optional event. They then ended up that there was going to be abysmal attendance, meaning nothing that they could record on social media to make it look like she's, you know, got the crowd going crazy. And so it was nothing for her to look forward to, and so she skipped it. This keeps happening. Parents and students are organizing against her for a variety of reasons. Some of them, those reasons that we have laid out on the show— they do not trust her, they do not believe her. And I can give you, provide more proof for you, uh, by way of a parental chat on Facebook that is currently going on right now regarding another event that she has coming up at a high school in Phoenix.

Right in her backyard, no less. And this is, uh, Pinnacle High School. The parents are organizing. Look, take a look at this chat. This is a parent that posted saying, I am very concerned learning that Erica Kirk is going to be speaking. And then you can see an anonymous member wrote below, as, as a teacher, I find this highly inappropriate, inappropriate, and a safety risk to our students and staff. Also, as a teacher, I know the district may care more about attendance more than anything else, so call your kids out of school and that will send a message. They are basically— 36 likes. They are organizing essentially a walkout, a boycott of Erica Kirk. Okay, I haven't reported on this stuff in the past. I've been very aware this is going on. The reason why I am now laying this out today is because what enrages me so much about the messaging, the setup there by Andrew Colbett, is that it is akin to narcissistic abuse. They can never admit that they have failed or that they have done anything wrong. So what do they do? They tell the public that it's our fault. It's your fault.

This wouldn't happen. This wouldn't happen if you guys would just stop criticizing her. That's completely psychopathic. We don't accept that. We reject that. Okay, no one does this. People cancel events last minute for a variety of reasons. He got drunk last night, he's hungover. Their PR comes out, makes an excuse. He had a mental breakdown backstage. We've seen a lot, especially in the land of rock and roll. Oh, I lost my throat. I lost my voice. Like, I won't be able to sing tonight. Probably was partying. I want you to actually go through your mind of all the famous people that you know who have canceled events last minute. When do you ever recall management coming out with messaging that implies that actually it's your fault? It's the public's fault. You didn't keep this person safe. They couldn't come out tonight because you failed this person. Well, that's exactly what the messaging was, and you should be infuriated about it. It is ridiculous. They are now paying influencers. Oh, if only everyone would just leave her alone. No, but tracker plane. What? Do you not think people are tracking JD Vance's plane? Elon Musk took his notoriously off of something.

Taylor Swift. People get their planes tracked all the time. By the way, there's no remedy for that situation. What's the future remedy? We're just not gonna announce when we're just gonna pop up and surprise people. The messaging was crappy. I am so sick of there never being an adult in the room that will just come out and say, as a leader would, You know what, ticket attendance wasn't great. Um, we want to remedy that in the future. We want to figure out what we can do, changes we can make so that we can establish Erica as the new leader of Turning Point USA. You know, they're still getting to know her. That's responsible messaging. But these guys, it's your fault. And shame on JD Vance, uh, for taking the bait on that. In response to Andrew Colbett's questioning, he's gonna lecture us. He's gonna come in and he's gonna lecture us. Take a listen to what JD Vance has to say.

Again, if your instinct is to go after not the left-wing radicals who are assaulting Savannah, or not the people who shot Charlie Kirk, but if your instinct is to go after a young mother because she's grieving in a way that you find wrong, well, why don't you stay in your lane and mind your own business?

Amen.

Grief is complicated. And I just—

Grief is complicated.

You know, so there's another angle of this, Andrew, which is just so absurd, which is that, you know, people will say that, you know, Erica, you know, she's been doing this or she's been doing that, and I would be doing something different. And it's like, first of all, that's fine. Like, if you want to criticize somebody because you have a disagreement, disagree with my politics, disagree with something that Erica or Andrew say on the Turning Point podcast.

We do.

This desire to go after her for the way she's grieving her husband, that's the most preposterous thing I've seen in a very long time. And I've seen a lot of crazy stuff in politics.

Okay, first off, we do criticize them all the time for what they say on the podcast. The whole public has been doing that actually since everything happened. Please stop saying this repeat phrase that everyone grieves differently. It doesn't matter how many times you say it, it doesn't make it true. Okay, you can't just say stuff. Everybody grieves differently. Yeah, no, for sure. Everyone that I know does this. No one. That's why it stands out to people and people go, this is strange. Most people would fear going out. They would want to be closer to their kids. Stop trying to constantly feed us this slop. But the audacity to say something like he just said— he said that it was the most preposterous thing that he has seen in politics in a very long time. People criticizing Echo Kirk. That's the most preposterous thing he's seen in politics in a very long time. Disagreeing with the new CEO and chairman. This is not just a widow, this is the new CEO and chairman of TPUSA, a position that she did not earn. Nothing that she has done warrants her being in that position. And that to him is like, whoa, I can't believe people are doing this.

I've seen some preposterous things just over the last few weeks in politics that should probably rank higher on your list, okay? Like when you guys blew up that school, 150 Iranian schoolgirls were killed, and then you lied about it. That to me feels a little more preposterous. I mean, was not just even 2 days ago that Trump said that he thought Jesus was a Red Cross doctor? That was a little preposterous. Y'all, he's out here lying about things. I don't know, the Epstein files, did you have time to go through that, Mr. Vice President? Nothing in there ranked more preposterous for you than us criticizing Erica Kirk. How about Trump just generally attacking a pope because he's calling for peace? How about Trump saying that Brigitte Macron is hot? That was pretty preposterous. That she's got it? It's not even close. The literal ticket you guys ran on was calling for peace. Now you're attacking the pope, or Trump is attacking the pope because he's calling for peace. That feels pretty preposterous. Going to war with the explicit aim of opening the Strait of Hormuz, which was already opened before you began the war, is pretty preposterous.

Gas prices right now are pretty preposterous. Us criticizing a grieving widow who can't keep her story straight about anything? No, that's not— that's not even— that shouldn't even hit your radar. So please do not lecture us, JD. Do not, okay? The lecture that is coming from you is exactly why we don't like Erica, because we see it for exactly what it is. It's elite. She has money and connections. She can call Vice President J.D. Vance. She can get, uh, the Secretary Scott Bessant to issue a letter on demand demanding you stop looking into their finances. She can get Trump to say how much Charlie loved her in his Easter speech. It's the balcony approach that makes us sick. We feel it, you guys, looking down in the crowd like we're animals and you're somehow more dignified. Okay, Mr. Vice President, respectfully, our friends aren't in the Epstein files. And I have enough common sense to know that the reason we refer to it as common sense is because it's shared amongst the commoners, us, the majority. And right now, the left and the right, the internet, we have correctly identified the nature of your friend Erica Kirk.

So please, I beg of you, we are 7 months into this thing. Please do not give us more bed slop. We have had our fill. And if it is truly your desire to transform hearts and minds about Erica, might I very humbly suggest that you start with a story that makes sense about September 10th? What happened? One that doesn't feature magical bullets and Superman necks and trannies that write out entire confessions in the spirit of a Jane Austen novel, my love. One which doesn't feature, uh, company employees who witnessed the shooting and for some incomprehensible reason neglect to call 911, but instead rush to remove cameras within minutes, that would be my advice. Rather than lecturing us from a balcony, string together a coherent story and a timeline for the commoners, please and thank you. Anyway, moving on from that onto some other things that are happening behind the scenes. Essentially, Turning Point is now just in the business of creating an illusion, and by an illusion, I mean that even when they are posting events of her being greeted at events with like, you know, thunderous applause behind the scenes, you should know that middle schoolers and high schoolers are being forced in some scenarios to sit in these events.

It's mandatory, okay? They have no option. So remember when you went to school and there was assembly, when you had to go to assembly in the middle of the day? That is the state of affairs at Turning Point USA. They are the administration. It's an assembly. Surprise, Erica Kirk is here! And they're like, look, the room, the auditorium is filled. Like, I guess to be, to keep it real, if I was in high school, I was really bad at chemistry. If he offered like, you know, 5 extra points and was like, Candace, like, you can bring up this, this really bad grade that you got if you go sit with Erica Kirk in the assembly right now or after school. No, I still wouldn't do it, but I'd think about it. I'd think about it. I don't wish them bad. I just wish them truth. I want them all to stop Lying about everything and anything and thinking that a JD Vance or a sprinkler Trump is going to change things. Please stop abusing the public with lies. And, um, already since more things are leaking, Andrew is commuting the story, right? Yesterday it was, this is happening because of the people back at home.

Now he knows stuff is coming out about the high school event that was canceled on Monday, but he's trying to fit it into this puzzle trying to make it work somehow, that he announced it on stage suddenly that Erica wouldn't be attending. And here he is on Charlie Kirk's show this morning with their latest excuse that's dropping. Take a listen.

Obviously, the big part of the news was that Erica was— she canceled her appearance at that because of security threats that were made against her. It was something we were you know, monitoring for days before the event. We actually had a high school event that was planned to be before the college event in the area that we had to cancel a few days before because of the increased online chatter that we were monitoring— our security team, I should say, was monitoring. And so we thought, you know, we got the Secret Service, everything should be fine at the main event. But what ended up happening, uh, and I have to be somewhat careful here because the security, uh, Our security team does, you know, obviously wants to be a little bit circumspect in the way that we talk about this because we don't want to give the bad guys any more ideas. But it was a situation where they were trying to dox her travel and monitor her travel, suggesting different ways that people could attack her. And it was like something we were actively trying to navigate and change itineraries, move locations. Nobody wants to live that way.

It was a terrible experience in many, many ways, and I feel terrible for Erica. And ultimately, you know, when you're in that moment and the security team looks at you and says, we can't guarantee your safety, at some point you just have to say, there's— we'll do this a different way.

Tough job, Andrew. It's truly a tough job that Andrew Colbett has. I just, just gotta keep up with the crowd and pivot the stories, try to make it make sense. The plane, there was a threat, you know, we tried to move the FBO in the charter a different plane. You don't know the tail number. You don't have a tail number. What were they sharing? I was just like, what are we talking? You guys have multiple planes. What are you gonna say? Oh, it just was a threat. We just can't tell you too much. We can't tell you even though we announced it on stage. We know that people are asking for more. We just, we just wanna honor the security and these threats are very serious. And that's why when Charlie multiple times texted me and the security team the day before saying he thought he was gonna be killed, we don't like to talk about that. We don't talk about that threat. That threat, we don't want to talk about. This one, we want you to know it's your fault, so don't criticize Erica. Um, yeah, emotionally manipulative, narcissistic. We do not— I reject this, and you should too.

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Or you can simply click the link in the video description or scan the QR code to claim this delicious offer. Again, that's masachips.com/candace with code CANDACE at checkout. All right, you guys, Pastor Victor Marx— what can I say? He was a difficult subject to cover. We— a lot of editorial decisions had to be made because there was just so much. There was just so much to choose from. And I want to be clear, the information that we got about his biography, that came from Victor Marx. We could have put together tons of clips. He tells his story many times, many ways, and we just were like, okay, let's try to reduce this to the facts about his life, who his father was, who his stepdaddy was, the things that he has said. And, um, we didn't even include stuff going on with his family, his daughter, um, very public back and forth that went on where she was accusing him of abuse. And, um, there's a lot of that. And then she retracted her statement after they began speaking again. And okay, we're like, okay, we don't need to include that. We didn't include the young woman who alleges that Victor Marx kidnapped her from Canada.

She's— the people had her on the shows and she discussed how she was kidnapped. But there was a lot going on with Pastor Victor Marx. I think it is fair to suggest that he has a checkered background. And we have never received more emails and more tips about anyone. Actually, um, in our tips inbox, it was a recurring theme. You need to look into Victor Marx, Victor Marx, Victor Marx. Victor Marx allegedly was the first person who announced that Charlie Kirk had died And then he deleted that post. I remember that, um, from all of the things that were happening. It was like, why did Victor Marx announce it first? And then he deleted that post. So yeah, I think we did a good job kind of sizing it down to the relevant portions of what these pastors seem to get up to. I don't even know where he pastors. Where is he a pastor at? I think that was one of the, the points that was raised by Corby Hall. It's like, I realize he doesn't have a church. I don't know why he says he's a pastor. Um, and I don't know why Erica can't make normal friends.

None of my friends had these sorts of backgrounds, and, um, they're not the people that I would want to see in the event of an emergency. But like JD said, she be grieving differently, y'all. She be grieving differently. Anyway, so Victor Marx clearly saw my episode very quickly, and he took to both his Instagram and X to issue a very quick response. A little weird. It's weird. Let me know if you think it's weird. This is what he said. Well, alrighty then. Love you, Candace. Let me know when you want me to come on the show. Praying for you. Okay, but like, why do the glasses have to come off? Why do we have to go all like Clark Kent about it? Well, alrighty then. Give it to me again. Well, alrighty then. Give it to me one more time. I gotta watch that again. Well, alrighty then. Okay, can you like— we had a DJ booth going where we just like get these sounds that we like. That's a bite, that's a bite. If you guys need to have that little— whenever I'm feeling— well, alrighty then. Anyway, I don't know what the point of that was.

And he then published, oh, I've been accused, or in this episode this is what she suggested, buddy. You can't be accused of what you're telling us your bio is. Now, I read Corby Hall's statement in its entirety, fleshed out what he had to say, felt like he was a very honest person. And again, he was ready to come on the show and discuss everything, bring all of his evidence. So I, I— my instincts are usually right about people, and my instincts about you were that, I don't know, you had supplements that you were doing with David Harris. David Harris calls God Papa. I don't know. And he, like, you guys said that, like, proceed— the supplements were going to help human sex trafficking victims. It's too much. It's just too much. Okay. My, my senses, my spidey senses say no good. Anyways, I obviously responded instantly. I, I wrote this beneath the post. We are actually going to have Korby Hall of Fold AR on and he is game to do the show with you. I am happy to have you both on if you agree. And Korby Hall said, yeah, I'm good. Let's do this.

He actually suggested it, Korby Hall. He said, 'cause he saw the post first and said, I would 100% do this face to face. Like he, he's, very serious about what this man did to him. And like I said, he has all the evidence, so would it make sense for me? I couldn't rebut anything that Victor Mark said about Foldear. We were all, we're going to have Corby, let's make this happen. And so to— because I wanted to make sure that we could establish a date, I instantly then reached out privately. I will show you guys that. Um, I wrote, hi Victor, give me the best number, we would love to set it up. Corby Hall is completely game to join. Best to have him there since I read his letter and he has the proof, etc., of what you wanted from him, plus the prayer that you prayed over him. We have, up until we hit go on today's episode, not heard back from him. I don't even see that it's read. He may not have read receipts on, but I obviously responded exactly where he posted the video. We will keep you posted, and I am totally game and very interested.

Finally, we got one of these pastors on the hook. I want to reel him in. I want to reel him in and talk about his relationship with Turning Point USA, how he got found as a pastor. Calvary, what goes on near that military base, I, I've— it feels to me like a whole military operation, I'm going to be honest. We've done episodes, we have done our due diligence on Calvary Chapel as a whole. I find it to be problematic, but that's my opinion. I'm allowed to have it. Anyway, I wanted to let you know that we then were hit with another wave, people emailing us from Turning Point USA inside and outside I love this, just so you know. We have people that are saying that they will get jobs at Turning Point USA just to give us information from the inside. We have people volunteer, they're like, I am going on an interview. I reply, they want me in, I will be, I will be a mole. Like, that is how the world feels. They are willing to go to work, uh, to get information. It makes me happy and it makes me smile because that is the influence that Charlie Kirk had.

Like, that's incredible that people are willing to do that for him. Anyway, people are still on the inside, and, and people who were fired also informed me that, yeah, no, there's other people that have trafficking history that are involved with Turning Point USA. And in particular, there is someone who openly discusses the fact that he used to traffic arms. I'll say allegedly, but this is apparently something he's very open about around the office. He's very close with Andrew Colbet. That's what I am told by, again, both current and former Turning Point USA employees. His name is Marcus Wada. Okay, here is his bio from Turning Point's website, which is interesting to me already. He's the senior productions director. Marcus Wada is the director of strategy of productions at Turning Point USA. Marcus has spent a decade in film and television production, working on films that were internationally distributed and television shows such as Miss Universe. Okay, that's a connection there. Marcus worked to raise financing for films and producing films. Left Hollywood to work in the conservative movement, producing and directing Turning Point USA's documentary series Border Battle and the Great Global Reset. Well, apparently he also— which I wouldn't put it in my bio too, to be fair— regularly tells people his testimony about how he was involved in trafficking arms in Poland.

Poland, where are you at? I saw you in the chat. Someone said watching from Poland, and I said, ooh, you guys are getting name-dropped today. So yeah, he used to be involved with trafficking in Poland. But then, as the story always goes, you found God. I am just so pleased to hear it. I'm so pleased to hear it that so many people involved with Turning Point are able to find God. Turning Point USA is out here, I guess, just finding employees and partners in a manner that is— it is unique. It is unique. I would say it's like a mesothelioma commercial. Are you or someone you know involved in trafficking? Give us a call today. There may be a place for you in our faith department. Vibes, right? So then I found out via these employees that Marcus Wada also says that his brother is still involved in the game somehow, in the industry, in some way. Is it charitably? Is there a difference? I can't be sure at this point. Anyway, I did end up finding the guy and prodding that narrative. There seems to be something there. I'm assuming it must be a half-brother because he has a different last name and this guy's got— is Jewish.

Um, and he runs a consulting company that consults in human trafficking. What can I say? It's a big industry, you guys. And I want to be clear, these people are not involved in the trafficking. They are charitable and want to alleviate this global circumstance. And these people also, you know, have histories. But it— I don't know, guys. You can— I didn't know— I didn't know you could consult in those things. I thought the website was made up. I was like, what does this mean? You're consulting in drugs and Look at this. Industry areas: national border security, money laundering, human trafficking, sex trafficking, and firearms and ammunition. This is, brother, controlled substances. Okay, what does it mean to consult in it? How do you consult in it? I don't know, guys. I don't know. I'm like, I'm an old dog that can't learn a new trick. That's my problem. But I am good at spreadsheets. Not so great at Excel, but I know how to put together a timeline and spreadsheets and to organize. You guys should see my pantry. It is ridiculously organized. Okay. And I did put together, you guys saw this earlier, the connecting themes spreadsheet because we kept seeing these recurring themes and I did not use Excel as it should be used, but I did put together these columns and it's, it's the trafficking and sex abuse.

I should write charity to make that clear. Uh, it's getting pretty long, you know. Derek and Shalane Maxfield, that was that plane that left and went to Page, Arizona that day. They run a child abuse charity, um, a trafficking charity. Uh, Sapria, Colonel Otto Buscher, obviously the Romanian instance with Erica, all surrounding what happened at the military base. And he worked with Romanian Angels, which was her charity. Uh, the civilian commander stationed at Fort Huachuca charged with running a child sex abuse ring. Turning Point USA faith, Greg Laurie, whose church Erica went right on tour with him, Harvest Church, is currently being accused of trafficking children from Romania. Okay, they are fine with that partnership. George Zinn, our decoy boy, was arrested for having pornographic images of children on his phone. Andrew Pascodlo, uh, that was the person who was detained that day, works to ring the alarm on military Ukrainian sex trafficking in the United States. Calvary Chapel Church is obviously riddled with pastor abuse stories. That's an aside, a Rob McCoy aside. Glenn Beck, Tim Ballard— that's Operation Underground. Tim Ballard, um, his name come up in the mix early on as someone who was being met with that day.

Um, Erica Kirk lived in China, or in the days that follow, rather, if I remember correctly. Erica Kirk says that she lived in China and worked with child sex trafficking victims, but she's mom on that now. Tight-lipped, does not want to talk about what charity that was. No one seems to be able to find it on the internet. We know she was living in— was it Chongqing? Am I saying that right? To Chongqing? I think it's spelled Chongqing. Maybe it said Chongqing. Uh, that's interesting. TPUSA advisor Paul Vellelli, retired Army general who ran psychological operations and co-wrote the book with Michael Aquino, the Satanist and founder of the Temple of Set, I didn't know Satanism had a great schism, but they did. Some people thought that Satan was an idea, some people thought that he was a real person. And so the Temple of Set was born out of Satanism. So you guys know if you're not up on your Satanist theology. Anyways, not a bar for entry as an advisor to Turning Point USA. He was accused— I'm referring to Michael Aquino— was accused of abusing children at Army Child Development Centers. Victor Marx, as we learned, runs a charity for child sex abuse.

We gotta add his pills too, with the What are the pills, man, that he's doing with David J. Harris that a portion goes to help sex trafficking victims? Nelda Buckman, the number one donor to Turning Point USA, is extensively involved in rescuing children that are being sexually abused and trafficked. The backstory that she gives, that her first husband— this is, this is her story— her first husband cheated on her with like a lot of women that were in the industry, and she was angry about that. But then she realized that she wanted to understand these women, and that brought her to the trafficking industry. And now she's doing— she has a lot, a lot of angels, this Angels, you know, Texas Angels and Austin Angels. I can't remember all of them, but that's another connection there. And now we have Marcus Wadda involved. I should probably change that to more responsibly say formerly involved in trafficking arms in Poland, according to Turning Point USA, current employees and past employees. So we can just update that spreadsheet, you guys, just so I can say that clearly. Formerly involved Marcus Wada, we just kind of type that as a note.

Yeah, we'll live edit that just so that doesn't get misunderstood from the public. Formerly, comma. He's not formerly Marcus Wada, guys. No, he is Marcus Wada. Was he formerly Marcus Wada? I don't know, actually. I don't— people change their names. Nothing would surprise me. Maybe he is formerly Marcus Mata. I think we're having a little bit too much fun today, guys. I'm just like, the stories are just getting so— they're just so ridiculous. What can I say? What can I say, ladies and gentlemen? Um, we will be right back after a quick break. All right, you guys, do you owe back taxes or maybe have unfiled returns or have filed every year but still keep owing? Maybe you Retired and suddenly got hit with a tax bill that you didn't expect. Maybe you pulled money from your 401(k) or your IRA early, and now the IRS wants their share. However your tax issue started, the outcome is always the same. Your balance is never going down. Penalties grow, interest compounds, and many of you are about to owe again for this upcoming tax year with no plan in place. Well, stop what you're doing and call Tax Network USA.

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I'm gonna pray for you. I pray the Lord finds it, you know. Elizabeth Broman, or Brown, wrote, she didn't know how to play the part of a human being. She's quoting me. Exactly what woke up everyone. Yes, hope you're paying attention, JD Vance. Um, there is such a thing as having a spiritual intuition about things. It's what keeps you safe, being aware. Something about Justice feels off, and that is something was not tracking. And then when she wasn't behaving the way that she should behave, you guys basically told us that we were crazy for noticing that, um, that she had no fear. And now you're flipping the gear, you're just completely doing a 180 now and saying she has fear. Come on, guys, just stick to a script. Stick to some form of a script. Okay, comments on today's episode. Smith writes, did JD just slip up by saying that the people that killed Charlie— I, I didn't even catch it he said that. And I do believe that there were people involved, multiple people involved in killing Charlie Kirk, and I do not believe that it was Tyler Robinson alone on a rooftop. And so we're going to continue to read the court documents and stay on top of them and Force them to be honest about things for a change.

Uh, Cece writes, it's extremely nuts to be screaming make heaven crowded while canceling appearances because of a threat. The irony of Charlie still making his event after telling people that they were trying to kill him. Go home and be a mom like Charlie wanted. You just can't have it both ways. You can't— you don't get to be a public figure and to say, I don't want to have any attention, but I do want to be the CEO and the chairman of Turning Point USA. It's always like they, they They are the people that present the problem, and then when everyone's like, okay, well, you're the person, you're the one that brought the public into this, they go, oh no, no, no, never mind, I just want privacy. It's giving Meghan Markle, do you know what I mean? Like, I want to be the princess, but I also want privacy when I want it, but I also want Netflix cameras when I want it. Life just doesn't work like that, okay? You can't take us into the casket and then pretend to be aghast when people ask you where you buried him. Did you bury him?

Do you think that they cremated Charlie? I ask myself that question, right? I ask myself occasionally whether or not they cremated Charlie, because that is starting to make sense to me that they would do that. I don't know, because now she can't— she can't share the details because she says people are going to come and try to destroy— I mean, I can't think of a single figure that's deeply hated in American history that has suffered having, um, people go after the gravesite. And I, I genuinely— that's just not a thing that people do, right? I'm sure they do in extreme circumstances, but that doesn't feel right to me. There's something very strange about that. And similarly, it's like she wants to be the grieving widow. She wants to be treated like a grieving widow that's taking care of her kids, but she's boss-babing it, and she's making decisions, and she's reversing course on the things that Charlie believed, and reversing course on the things that she alleged that she believed when Charlie was alive. And people are going to call that out, and they have a right to call that out. And so I encourage people to continue to do that.

If she doesn't want to play the role of the CEO and chairman, she's welcome to step down. Okay, she's more than welcome to step down, and then she will not have to deal with the day-to-day criticisms of how Turning Point USA is being run into the ground. But otherwise, you know, put on your big girl pants, so to speak. Sarah Miller writes, loved ones of missing and murdered people regularly get dissected in their interviews with the press for how they are grieving publicly. I guess you are only allowed to grieve differently when you're a part of the Epstein class. It's bogus. Yeah, I mean, that's completely right. People absolutely tear apart people every second of every day, especially given the size of this case. And as I said earlier, their inability to just string together a comprehensive story regarding what took place on September 10th. It just— they're relying on us to accept make-believe. This is a fairy tale story. And then they're like, well, why don't you believe that Rudolph had a red nose, Candace? Why don't you believe that he was carrying Santa's big butt? All across the North Pole. Like, I just don't believe that, actually.

And, oh, how could you not, how could you not attack that? And it's godly, and it's this, and the Lord, and then it's suddenly not the Lord, and they have real concerns, and it's just all over the place. It's very sloppy. Caroline writes, Candace, please let me help you with your Excel. I can do wonders. No, I am just using it to organize the columns. I am ignoring the rows. We are just doing the columns on connecting themes because I was like, I could make this in Word, but why would I when Excel has already made this for me? Thank you. Yeah, we're keeping that forever. In fact, I am inspiring an entire generation to misuse Excel spreadsheets. I'm very proud of myself. Jolie writes, TPUSA is no longer considered to be Turning Point. It should now be known as Trafficking Point. I— it's Topsy-Turvy Point. It's Tumbling Point. It's certainly not the organization that I knew, that I supported, and that I loved. And it is— it feels like it's been infiltrated by Zionists. I think from the very beginning we felt that. I think that's honest. That's a, that's a, a fair take.

And, um, even in there, like I said, there's this like bizarre partnership that they just keep having with The Daily Wire. Like, we know what The Daily Wire is, so when we see that, we go, hmm, that's weird. Why? That's not— that's strange. And we have a right to comment on that and to recognize that. Lastly, Granny Manny writes, they were screaming for your arrest and worse on X last night. I could not believe how hostile it was. Love you so much, Candace. These people are insane. Like, if Erika literally, like, fell and scraped her knee, if she did what I did and she broke her foot, they'd be like, this is Candus's fault. That's what they want. They're trying to create that environment. So we need to be conscious of that, okay? Everything we have done on this show has been fair. Charlie Kirk was murdered. We are being lied to about the details surrounding that murder. And I granted her grace beyond what the internet was willing to give her. She lied to my face. She has lied multiple times, and the lies are inexplicable. They won't clarify any of these lies. They are pretending like she's too busy, like she's some grieving, powerful widow behind the scenes.

She's not actually. She plays very nasty, just so you guys know. Here's a fact: Erica personally made phone calls trying to get people not to go to the Catholic event that I spoke at the other week, okay? She plays dirty behind the scenes. The people who were fired told me who was behind this PR push. Erica was behind this stuff the entire time. So you can completely miss me. I don't play that way. With me, you get what you get. I'm gonna say it on my show. I'm not gonna wheel and deal. I'm not gonna call a PR person and be like, could we get this article? Could we try to see if we get Candace canceled from this event? Can we try to see it? It was sold out. The event was sold out. Um, and it's 'cause I don't play that way. I don't have that karma building up in the background. I don't have to worry about— I don't treat people that way. I'm always upfront and I was upfront with her when I sat down with her and she lied. Okay? So she got onto my list of people that I find to be suspicious because of her own actions and her behavior and her lack of interest in the very many holes in this case.

Her anger at Joe Kent for trying to investigate foreign involvement. Who do you think is orchestrating all that? Does it sound to you like Andrew Colbett has a brain, or that there could be someone more conniving behind him? I offer you the latter. Okay, it is definitively the latter. I will leave it at that. Um, I guess that's it for today's comments. We will see you guys tomorrow.