Transcript of Gal Gadot New

Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Expert. I'm Dan Shepard. I'm joined by Minnieker Mouse.

Hello.

Uh, today we have Gal Gadot. She is an actor. She is Wonder Woman, Snow White, Red Notice, Fast and Furious— several, I think 4 Fast and Furious— Heart of Stone. She has a new movie out on Prime Video September 2nd called The Runner. It is a very high-octane, crazy This woman runs for 2 hours straight. It's, uh, it scared me.

Yeah, she said it was 110 pages of running.

Yeah, it's, uh, it's unreal. Tom Cruise has got to take notice of this. This— I feel like maybe she's thrown a gauntlet down. Uh, I'd like to see Tom run an entire movie. God knows he could, you know, if anyone could do it.

That's right, he could do it.

Uh, please enjoy Gal Gadot. Oh, and you're tall! Let's both— oh, you are!

Hi, Monica!

Hi, Monica! How's it going? Jenny Chu, my hairstylist, was like, oh, just love Jenny more than anyone. How do you know each other?

She did Kristen's hair, does Kristen's hair a lot.

Oh, there you go. So you must know her too, no?

Yeah, then we're all just in—

we love I love Jenny.

She's the best.

So how did you guys start doing this together?

Well, Dax wanted to do a pod— I was working with Kristen, and I was at the house all the time. Dax wanted to start it.

It was like, she doesn't do enough. Come do my podcast.

No, we love to argue. So we generally have opposite opinions on any given topic. So our hobby when she worked for Kristen was I'd be walking through the kitchen, and I'd be like, you're listening to Serial, right? Yeah, I'm like, you think Adnan did it? She's like, he didn't do it. I'm like, of course he did.

You know, let it rip for an hour. I basically lived at their house. We were all hanging out all the time.

I love that you do it from your house too.

And then this, yeah.

And she lives directly across the street, so she walks 12 feet and I walk 30 feet.

That's really nice. We've been doing it almost 9 years, 8 and a half.

You've been doing this for 9 years almost?

Almost.

When it just started, you saw the potential with the podcasts.

No, we didn't.

You were just looking for an arena to fight.

Yeah, kind of.

Well, really, I was starting to be on a lot of podcasts as a guest, and I liked it so much more than, say, although I like late-night talk shows because I'm a comedian, that's fun. But I liked going there and being like, I don't have a 7-minute chunk to be brilliant in. I can be my full self. And I remember leaving those interviews going like, well, that was really worthwhile. More than a normal interview. I just loved being on them. And I was like, I kind of want to do this.

We're into a deeper dive, you know?

And it's fun to have someone you can banter with.

Yeah.

Because if it gets tiring or if it gets too whatever, then you come to the rescue and vice versa.

Yeah, it's a good balance.

But especially—

Did we start now?

I think we're always starting.

You know, you're my first.

Oh, really? Oh, wow. Okay, good. Well, you've chosen well.

We're honored. I think so too. We'll see.

Without naming anyone, or I don't have any specific complaint, but many of the podcasts, everyone involved has the same opinion.

Yeah, it's true.

And I find that a little bit— well, then why do we need a second person?

Yeah, exactly. Let's just preach.

Yeah. So she's a brown, tiny girl from Georgia, and I am a super tall whitey.

It's a big old personality.

Whereabouts in Georgia?

Duluth, suburbs of Atlanta. Atlanta, basically.

Atlanta.

Yes.

You've certainly made movies in Atlanta.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Did any of those superhero movies take place there?

Mine were in London.

Okay. Chic.

Nice.

Not that Atlanta is not chic.

No, London, I'm going to say, is cheaper.

Bucket area and all of that.

Very country and cute.

They didn't sign on my phone because they did not know we were recording, you guys.

You weren't told our slogan, which is ABR, always be recording.

Okay. Now I know.

Rob starts it before we even walk in.

He's always trying to catch us.

For reals?

Yeah, yeah. This is all running.

Okay. Amazing.

Well, you never know.

No, we caught something amazing, which was we interviewed Brad Pitt last year. And so we're in here waiting for him to arrive, and the nervousness between the two of us, and particularly Monica.

I was so nervous.

Why would you be nervous next to Brad Pitt?

I know, right? It's like, that's so strange. I'm never nervous. And so it was kind of a weird feeling.

What sign are you?

Double Virgo.

I'm a double Taurus.

Wow! We just had somebody else on who's a double that way.

Since I've been back, every guest has been into astrology, and I gotta hear the whole—

It's time for you to just embrace it.

You're a Taurus because you're very logical. That's why.

Okay, hold on. I just want to say, as an outside observer who's not in the religion, when I watch the exchange, it goes the same way every time. It's like, are you a Pisces? No, I'm a Virgo. Oh yeah, you're a Virgo.

What are you?

I'm a Sagittarius.

Oh yeah, I get it.

Everyone gets excited about their sign and then really nothing beyond that, which is kind of funny to observe.

It's just a common denominator. I feel like it's a good icebreaker and I find myself— so first of all, I'm a Taurus. I'm logical. I never believed in astrology until—

Okay.

One day I was home and I was cooking and the TV was on and they had this Astrology Time was the title of the show. It was back in Israel and it was like a bunch of experts and you call from home and they do your maps and they tell you what to do in your life. I could not care less. I'm trying to switch the channel and I could not care less. I'm chopping the aubergine. And then they say, our celebrity for today is Gal Gadot. I was 25 back then. And I'm like, what? Okay. I guess I'm gonna listen to them. Let's see what they have to say. They were so accurate.

Oh.

Okay. They said she's influenced by Aries sign. Both of my parents are Aries. She's thinking about expanding her family. I was in my first few weeks of my first pregnancy. And it's not something you would say about a 25-year-old.

Right.

And then they said all these bunch of things. And then I was like, oh, I got curious, started investigating a little bit, and now I don't lead my life with that, but I think it complements. You find it interesting. Yeah, it's like a good blush. It's a nice color. I agree.

Sure, sure, sure.

You're like, sure, sure.

No, we all—

No, that's okay. I respect that.

Hold on.

No. From a Capricorn.

No, no, no. Hold on.

Hold on. That's what I say. That's what I say.

You're so Capricorn.

I recognize that we would all acknowledge we're very dynamic creatures and we're being influenced. Our context is so broad. It's physical.

There's so many things influencing us. Right.

I understand that you're like, yeah, this is an 8% sprinkling that I think contributes to this.

Exactly. This is a little spice that I enjoy.

Yeah, it's just a fun— it's like an icebreaker. It's like a fun way to cut through. It's like, oh, I know something about you.

Don't you find that sometimes you have phases in your life when you're more tired and you're more low energy and everything, and everyone around you are the same, and then you realize that Jupiter is regressing?

Yeah, or Mercury's in retrograde.

You need to be aware.

Sure, sure.

Okay, never mind.

Some people might call those spurious conclusions, but it doesn't matter. I'm gonna tell you one tiny story. I'm not a hater on it. Like, it's not for me, but I don't have an ax to grind.

Yeah.

But I just had this one funny thing. So I had an astronomy class in college, and the teacher was telling us that he had so many different students that were constantly trying to argue the legitimacy of astrology. So he agreed to have a prominent astrologist come to the class, and they were going to have a bit of a debate. Now again, this is coming from him. This seems a little convenient, but he got everyone's birthday, and then he handed out these readings. for each person, and everyone in the class looked at their thing, and my teacher said, I could see people going like, oh yeah.

Feeling silly.

And then the guy got done and he realized he had an extra one in his hand. He was like, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Everyone, everyone pass it to your left. And then handed that one to the last person. And then they all looked at their thing and they went, you know, we love thinking about ourselves. So if you give me adjectives that you say apply to me, thank you.

You will find how it works.

That's my take on it.

And I don't mind that. That's fine.

I like feeling known. People like feeling known.

Seen, known.

And seen. And they're like, oh, that is me.

Someone gets me.

Yeah.

You know what I did today?

The moon does.

So I don't know, maybe it's in America now, it's a trend as well. But in Israel today, there is a trend. Just today it started to ask ChatGPT, or maybe it happened in America. I have no idea. Ask ChatGPT to describe you in one word. Did you ever do that?

We gotta do it right now.

Let's do it right now. Thank you. This is fun. We never do real-time challenges.

Okay.

Please describe me in one word. Before I hit send, I just got to tell you this. I had a weird moment already this morning with my chat.

Okay.

Which is like, I've never told my chat I'm Dax Shepard.

I never told it to mine, and he knows I'm me.

Right. But I've said, you know, I'm interviewing so-and-so. I had this weird recollection of running into you. You know, it's also murky doing press for 20 years. I'm like, I kind of feel like when I was doing CHiPs press, you were maybe doing Justice League press. I just thought that in my mind. So I asked Chat, like, have I ever been on a talk show with Gayle? And my Chat said no, but she was promoting blank. So maybe like this thing I just told you, it came up. But then funnier, it goes on to say, but you and Kristen were on the red carpet with her at the Golden Globes Award in '17. And I'm like, It's so weird that it's saying you and Kristen. I haven't told him I'm married.

I hate it.

I hate it.

No, but it knows it too. It knows you're married to Kristen and all that.

But it just felt weird.

It's very weird.

All right, so I will now. Please describe me in one word. I hope it says asshole.

Curious or goal-oriented. It would never. It's here to please.

What does everyone get?

Curious.

Mine says curious.

My mom, my mom, my mother-in-law. You're curious too?

Yes.

Okay. I'm determined.

Oh, really? Okay, so everyone doesn't get curious.

This is real time because I was like, I think—

My sister was caring. My friend was family-oriented. Another friend was multitasking.

Okay, they've gotten different. So me and you got curious.

But it's probably because you use it a lot because that's what you do. You're curious about people and you're interviewing. You're asking a lot of questions.

I am very curious. That's why this show exists. But what else could it conclude? I only interact with it to ask it questions.

I'm determined.

So what are your searches generally?

What do I search? So I use multiple. I use Perplexity if I want to do comparison with other stuff, to do more research. Chat is like my Google. Yeah. I just ask all the questions. And yet it didn't say I was curious.

Yeah. Okay.

My mom and another friend of mine and my mother-in-law are.

So are your questions Task-related? Like, how do you—

Like, how do you get to the objective? No.

They're not.

No.

Okay.

I don't doubt it could know me better than I know myself.

If you have comments, you should have your viewers write down theirs, and you'll see a lot of them won't be curious or determined.

What if they just say curious if they don't really know us? I don't know if he knows me well. I don't like him, so maybe he—

I'm always suspicious of him. That's why I never told him I'm me, and I got so upset when I realized he knew.

Yeah, it should have. Then I would have—

Suspicious.

Respected it a little more.

Yeah.

I would've respected him. I said, do you know what my job is? I have a pretty good guess, but I don't think you've explicitly told me your exact job title from everything we've talked about. No.

In your pillow chats.

He doesn't wanna be intruded.

From all of our hangs, I guess you work in podcasting entertainment with Dax Shepard, particularly on the creative branding and production side with a close connection to Armchair Expert and Monica Padman. Oh, so it doesn't think I'm her.

It thinks you're Emma. Wait, sorry. This is such a rabbit hole, but how tall am I?

I'm gonna say, what do you think my name is?

Well, ask how tall you are.

How tall do you think I am?

Our friend Emma, who works on the show, is— what is Emma, 5'10?

Yeah, she's very tall.

Yeah, I think she's 6 foot, actually.

You're tall too. I'm 5'10 and a half without heels.

It's really nice. I'm really jealous.

I think you were up at 6 feet with those heels.

Yeah. What's the deal with peptides? Are you on peptides?

Oh, God. Yeah.

You are?

Oh, yeah.

Tell me.

You're not?

No.

How could you not be? You're so athletic.

I'm just athletic because I've always been.

We're going to get into why you're athletic, because I know.

You did. You're very serious.

All the more reason that you would want to know about peptides.

I spoke to a few doctors and all of them scared the shit out of me from taking peptides.

Well, first of all, there's a quadrillion peptides, right? GLP-1 is a peptide.

Right. That's the only one that has enough research and all of that.

Well, not true, but—

GLP-1?

Yeah, that's the only one that has enough research. Generally what's happening, which was the case with the GLP-1, is that was a medicine developed for diabetics to regulate A1C, right? So then they discover all these off-label effects of it and they just can't ignore what they're seeing. Oh, when we try to treat these people for diabetes, they're also losing weight. Their metabolic health is also improving. So now you can apply this thing you've observed. Many of the peptides are definitely being used off-label for what they were intended to originally treat. So, one of them being tesamorelin, right? This was developed for AIDS patients in the '80s. What they found while people were on this treatment is like, oh, they're losing all their abdominal fat. That's interesting. But it's a crazy safe peptide that's been being used on all these people for a very, very long time. And one of the unintended consequences was reduction in belly fat. So, It's not not tested or not not safe. It hasn't been tested for belly fat reduction, but it has been—

It has been used for so many years.

Yes, exactly. Since '86. Here's the problem. People are conflating 2 things. Are peptides dangerous or are how people are getting peptides dangerous? The second one, the latter. Yes. So dumb, dumb guys on the internet are ordering shit from China for lab use only, and they don't know what they're getting. And it might not have the actual peptide in it and it might be So unfortunately, because that's happening now, it's like, well, peptides are dangerous. No, crazy shit from China that's intended for lab use is dangerous.

It also is if you do too much. I mean, again, anything can be.

And I want to be fair, they can be dangerous. So even the tesamorlin one, what it does is it tells your pituitary gland to make more of your own human growth hormone. So, you know, people take HGH exogenously. That's dangerous.

That's dangerous. It's not good for cancer and all these reasons.

And even if you do have active cancer cells and you increase your own body's HGH, that could be problematic. So you need to get screened. You need to get blood panels every 3 months. You got to do it with a doctor and be observed.

How often do you do it?

Daily.

Every day?

Yeah.

In injections, right?

Wow.

This is probably the most transparent I've been about it. I mean, I say I'm on it.

You look amazing.

Well, thank you.

I'm 51 years old. Like, you know, get it on. Yeah.

He loves to hear that.

I'm never appreciated by women. This is one of my complaints. Guys all the time are like, bro, what's your I appreciate strong bodies. Okay.

And your body looks very strong. I said it from the first minute I saw you. Thank you.

Yeah.

You don't need any. You're doing great.

I'm not gonna do any, at least not at this point. And I'm not where you are, as you were, like, so confident about it. And probably you've done much more research than I did.

Oh, I have a doctor. You know, I have a hormone doctor.

But I'm open to— if it's not risky.

Yeah.

And if it's not dangerous, and if it doesn't feed into cancer cells and all these things.

At some point when you're perimenopausal or menopausal, you'll explore hormone therapy. It's so impactful. It's crazy women were denied any help in that realm.

I was just watching last night a show about it. It's again in Israel. It's a documentary show about this amazing woman who's a journalist in Israel. And the name of the show is, uh, I'm Hot, I'm Cold, just because of the heat waves. And she explored everything. And again, like with peptides, it's amazing to see in the scale, there's like the people who are super pro it and the people who are also doctors who are extremely against it.

Yes.

And it's all about the cancer and feeding the cells. And essentially, I think that if you end up doing anything like this, you need to do it the right way and just make sure you check yourself.

Do you know Dr. Mary Claire Haver? You should follow her on Instagram. She's kind of like one of the main faces of the menopause treatment.

Perimenopause. Yeah. She's like out there always giving tips.

I do follow her. Isn't it amazing how women's health is something that When you compare it to men's health, and I'm not saying it is a bad thing, it just is a fact. There's so many things that had never been fully, deeply, thoroughly explored in the same way with men.

And you know, the historical explanation for that—

Can I take off my shoes?

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That's round 1. We thought maybe we'll get down to, um, our essentials, our unmentionables at some point. So step 1 is great.

Yes.

The historical explanation Women make terrible research subjects because you have your period. Because throughout the month, you're going to have very dramatic rises and falls in your hormone levels.

But it is what it is.

It is what it is. That's not an excuse to study women. But that was the explanation given is like, if I take your blood, I'm trying to test you for this one thing, but then 15 days out, I get this weird result. I don't know you're this point. Exactly.

Researchers, wherever you are, I'm not defending it.

We just had an expert on about fatherhood. I'll tell you when men are not studied is Parenting. There's almost no fucking studies on men and parenting. That's a big, big problem. Yeah, we're locked in these vestigial, terrible gender things that exclude us from understanding each other.

Slowly, yes. But yeah, also all the medication that applies to women, they've just tested on men, and then it reacts very differently on women. It's like, well, yeah, because you didn't test anything out on us.

Yeah. The best is Ambien. That was the one that I think— that's what caused America to go, hold on, hold on, why aren't we testing on women? Because it turns out, you know, Ambien is twice as powerful in women than men.

I didn't know that. Still to this day?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So doctors were prescribing the same dose to men and women. Men are like, oh, it's great, I love it, I fell right asleep. And then women are like, yeah, I got up and I drove my car, or I went to the fucking 7-Eleven and got snacks.

And the doctor's like, why are you doing any of this bonkers behavior?

Oh, man.

Yeah. And they're like, women are crazy. And it's like, nope, just the medicine.

So many different films Hormones in health had been super explored when it came to men and very little exploration when it came to women. I had the— I'm sure you did the research, blah, blah, blah, CVT, the cerebral venous thrombosis in my head when I had a baby.

It's a kind of a stroke. It's a rare stroke.

Oh, scary.

Only 3% of strokes are these kind, right?

I don't know the number.

That was my research of you.

Yeah. You know that because you know why? You're very curious. But it's basically 3 of my venuses— venuses, venuses, like in the head. Venus, Venus. I don't know English, by the way. It's gonna happen a lot. I love that. We love that about it. As long as you understand what I'm saying. Yeah, were blocked. And it was because of the hormones and because I was pregnant and it happened I didn't know it was even a thing. And many times what happens is that women get the clots in their brain, and then they have the baby, and then soon after the delivery, they get a stroke. Women were not aware of it. I wasn't aware it was a thing for pregnancy.

Did they put you on a blood thinner to deal with that?

Yes.

And that's miserable, right? I've had friends on blood thinners and they hate it.

It was very bad. And another thing, I feel like my doctor, my neurologist, didn't take me seriously enough. Mike.

Uh, I don't know his name. Shout out.

He's a good guy.

Yeah.

I think it's just the attitude of, she's a woman, she's just being dramatic. It's just not real.

'Cause you were like, I have headaches. Okay.

And then if you're Black, it's like 3x the data of not being believed for your pain. So it's like, there's all these strata. It's like, if you're a woman, you're fucked. And then if you're a Black woman, we're not gonna take anything you say seriously.

Yeah. It's horrible. But anyway, I had major headaches throughout my pregnancy. And then the last 3 weeks of my pregnancy, I was not able to do anything. I was home in bed, dark, quiet, AC. That's it. But you're fighting the pain. Now I know I was like in and out of consciousness. It felt like a toothache in your brain. Oh, that's awful.

And you're pregnant.

And then you pass out and then— ah, but I thought I was fine.

So it was already restricting flow.

I didn't know. And they checked me and I didn't show any symptoms. The back of my eye pressure was fine. My blood pressure was fine. Therefore, he thought I was just having a migraine until one day my mom was like, enough. 3 weeks, you're not doing anything. Go get an MRI. And I asked to get an MRI for so many things. He wouldn't send me.

Were they saying they didn't wanna give you an MRI because you were pregnant?

I don't know.

No, they probably were just like, you don't need it.

They don't like giving MRIs.

Yeah.

Why?

I want my own MRI.

I know.

If you buy one, let's share it. We should buy like 10. Yeah, yeah.

But anyway, then they found out I was on the— like, almost dead.

Oh!

Afterwards, my wonderful neurosurgeon who did the operation told me that usually when they see this type of blockage, people are in coma.

Yeah.

I was supposed to be in coma.

So what was the operation?

Thrombectomy.

They put, like, stents in there, or how do they—

They didn't. They can for aneurysm and stuff, but that's not what I had. They go from your crotch, all the way to your brain.

Wow!

Wow! Wow! And they try to take out the clotting.

That feels very dangerous.

And you were pregnant during this surgery?

No.

They waited.

So I did the MRI. They called me immediately on the way home. They called me to come to Cedars-Sinai. That was amazing. Cedars-Sinai, I love you.

Shout out Cedars!

They took the baby out.

Wow!

First thing. And then they did the operation and put me on blood thinners and everything.

It's a big day for your body.

This is scary.

Delivering a baby and then brain.

By the way, just delivering a baby for a woman, it's a bit, again, underestimated. Trauma. And I must say that I also was downplaying giving birth. It's fine. I'm back.

It's a shock. It's a huge trauma.

It's a trauma. And this was number 4.

Now, my mother told me they got easier. Did yours not get easier? Obviously, this is compounded by this.

Exactly.

Yeah.

Up until then, I loved giving birth.

Okay. Okay.

Loved. Like, I hated being pregnant.

Oh, yeah.

Loved delivering. It was like, oh!

'Cause you felt powerful.

'Cause first of all, meeting your baby for the first time is something I can't explain. It's like you want to see how they look, how they hear. Do you want to smell? The creation of Yaron and I!

And they're looking in your eyes, and you can tell they're going like, are you who's gonna take care of me? And you're like, yeah, I'm gonna take care of you.

I got you, girl.

It's so special.

Yeah, it is. Although I was terrified the first time. I bet.

Wow. So you had the surgery. Oh my God.

You know, I had a repeated dream when I was down. Did it ever happen to you?

Uh-uh.

Were you ever under? Like, did they put you under for a surgery?

I've been under a dozen times. Yeah, for real. I've had a lot of surgeries.

What kind of surgeries? Are you okay?

I race motorcycles, so always broken stuff and ligaments and stuff.

No, I don't race motorcycles yet.

Yeah.

You walk.

I do. I walk. That's my mode of— my mode of transportation. I froze my eggs, and so they did put me under for that. I did that twice. They don't always put people under, but they did put me, and that was nice. That was a nice little treat.

You can see why Mike Jackson wanted to do that nightly.

I mean, they call it the nap, the anesthesia nap.

I was dreaming that I was in a plane, and everybody in the plane were standing and, like, you know, leaning over each other, trying to see the view. of where we're getting. And we were supposed to land on the Golden Bridge.

Golden Gate.

Golden Gate in San Francisco. The red one. Golden Bridge is a song.

The Golden Gate Bridge, it was clear.

Exactly. And there were cars on it. And every time we were about to land, boom, we went back to the start.

Weird.

Over and over and over. And at one point in the dream, I'm like, I think we're going to start again. I think that's what's happening.

Do you think— maybe you asked this, but like, yeah, I've been out a bunch of times. Colonoscopies, the surgeries. I don't remember one thing. They hit the plunger and then I'm like waking up. Do you think it's because they were actively in your brain?

I think so. I never asked my doctor. I should.

You should, because that's very abnormal, I think, for you to have any memory from while you're on the board.

When they're tinkering around in there, you remember it.

To this day, vividly.

Can I tell you a boring story you won't care about? So the Golden Gate Bridge.

Yeah.

After the company that built that bridge erected it, they were like, that's a damn good bridge. Let's go try to sell this around the world. And you know, Lisbon bought one. Lisbon has a Golden— it's identical to the Golden Gate Bridge. Same company. Yeah. They got down there and like, hey, look at this bridge we did in San Francisco. You want one? They're like, yeah, we'll take one.

What do they call that? Really? Good on the Portuguese.

The Golden Bridge.

They do?

No. The Golden Bridge.

Gullible is my word.

The Gullible Bridge. Okay, so I'm gonna maybe guess that for you, delivering was more tolerable because in your childhood, and mildly explained by the fact that mom was a phys ed teacher, you swam, you played tennis, you did volleyball, you were on the cheerleading team for the soccer club, you did hip-hop dance, you did ballet.

You are curious and with good memory.

Thank you. I've been spared that procedure you had thus far. But obviously, you've had an entire childhood of learning to endure pain. Once you learn to get through it, it is— for me, I'm similar. That stuff doesn't bother me much. It's just not in my—

Yeah, I broke all my fingers and did all the things. Yeah. When you're very physical, you have more tolerance to pain and being pushed.

Was all of this motivated by yourself, all this physical activity, or was mother going, Both.

I was born very active. Still to this day, I can't just sit and do nothing. My body gets aggravated. And my mom, it was like, I finished school, I finished my homework, take a ball and go out and play. There's no hours and hours and hours of TV and stuff.

And what kind of engineer was Dad?

Medicine, science. For example, he worked in this— how do you call it? It's like a pill that has multiple cameras that you swallow before you go to do colonoscopy.

Oh, wow! And it fills your whole digestive tract on its way out?

Yeah.

Cool.

So he's like a biomechanical—

So he's in a mechanical or biomechanical—

But he also worked in, like, satellites. He's, like, in charge of all the—

He's stupid.

Yeah, he's the brains.

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My dad is an engineer as well.

Does he fit the stereotype? I mean, was he pretty cerebral?

You know what chat told my dad?

You are a computer?

Period.

You're me?

You're thorough. And then he said in 2 words, And then he said, you're very specific and thorough. My dad is very like, yeah, very cerebral.

Okay.

Now we're getting somewhere. So this other thing that's pretty well known about engineers too is like their bedside manner is not great. It's like, no, no, that doesn't work. Period. Like, I see that that doesn't work. They have no problem with that. Coupled with, we had this incredible expert on years ago, probably 6 years ago that wrote a book about disagreeability across cultures. And you know who the most disagreeable people on the planet Engineers? Israelis.

Oh, Israelis.

This is not a negative thing. This is like, we'll challenge authority, no fear to object.

It's all because of the Bible. Every Friday, every Shabbat, you used to get together and pepper over the story, the parasha, of this week's Bible story.

And what, you're encouraged to challenge it and debate it?

Yeah, it's like debating over the Shabbat table.

Okay, great. So when I combine Combine the highest disagreeability culture with also an engineer. What was it like to interact with him?

He's a softie. He's a girl's dad.

Oh, he is? Well, you were texting him this morning about ChatGPT.

That's what you said.

Exactly. I was like, Jack, what's your— my mom was like, oh my God, he knows me so well. I'm curious.

And my dad is like, oh my God.

My dad is like, I'm thorough. My dad, he was the breadwinner and worked morning to night. Very loving.

What happened when you became emotional? How did he handle that? Did he walk outta the room? Was he like, uh-oh, emotion?

I think that now when he's older, he's embracing his emotions much more than ever, than my mom, than anybody.

This is all of us now.

He wants to talk about emotions.

He wants to cry a little bit.

Yeah. He wants to talk about his challenges if he's feeling anything.

That's great.

It's incredible.

Yeah.

We were just talking about this with the guest yesterday. I think women and men are on this opposite trajectory. It's like when I met Christy, she cried every couple hours. I hadn't cried in 20 years. And now she rarely ever cries and I cry every 20 minutes. And I'm like, well, that's an interesting trajectory. And I noticed that it's pretty consistent among the people I know.

Well, at some point the men— I think it's when you have children, something pops open and then the pipe has been clogged for 400 years.

I also think you're so busy with building your careers and building your homes and providing and this and that. And all of a sudden, I think there is a point where the children get older that you start feeling we're not here forever. And actually, we're asking ourselves what's the most important thing in life is.

Yes.

And making you feel emotional. And I think that if you're smart and wise and have good emotional intelligence, then you connect to your feelings at one point. Now you have the time. You're not in the race.

Yeah, I'm like, oh, good, I did it. I climbed the mountain.

Yeah.

That's over. I don't have to be tough and strong.

Exactly. I proved what I needed to prove to whoever it is.

What'd I miss? Oh, everything? All these emotions? Okay, great. Well, bring them all in. Bring them all in right now.

Yeah.

Okay, I have one bone to pick with you.

Okay.

So, as the lore goes, you're in high school, you're doing all these incredible things athletically. People had— at different times suggested perhaps you should model, right? And you were not interested in that. And instead, when you graduated high school, you got a job at Burger King. This sounds so American, right? You think about like someone's in Israel.

Through high school, I worked in Burger King.

Okay, great.

Do they have the chicken sandwich there?

I love the Whopper, the Garlic Whopper.

Garlic Whopper?

We don't have the Garlic Whopper.

We're too agreeable for garlic.

We like the chicken sandwich. It comes in a rectangle. I don't know if they have that in Israel, but here—

With the proprietary Burger King mayonnaise. Oh, here's the deal. Okay, so you're working at Burger King. Now here's my grievance, because I have heard this same story from probably 5 guests, and at this point I'm like, I'm a little suspicious of it. So it's that you didn't want anything to do with modeling, but mom and a friend submitted you to the Miss Israel pageant.

It's true.

I just think it's very interesting that of all these people I've interviewed that are all pageant winners, none of them submitted themselves.

Who was it?

Priyanka Chopra was one, I think.

So was Jenny Garth. I think she accidentally got herself on the podium at a pageant. Before you defend yourself, would it be okay if you wanted to be in a pageant at 18?

Yeah.

In Israel, in my days, it used to be a big deal. Now I think they canceled it.

They have a bad track record for the abuse.

Pageants in general.

The men have made it terrible.

But not in Israel. It just became out of—

Passé.

Yeah. It's whatever. No one cares. But in my day, I was thinking to myself, all right, I'll go, and I'll get to tell my grandchildren that Grandma competed in Miss Israel. It was like royal. Oh my God.

2004?

2004. You're an amazing computer. And then—

You went to Miss Universe.

I went to Miss Universe.

You won a Citroën for winning Miss Israel.

I won a Citroën C5 Aircross. What's a Citroën?

Yeah, it's a little car, a little French car.

Oh!

How fun is it to win a car when you're 18?

Amazing. And I sold it. You know what I did? I sold it. I drove it for 3 months, and then I was like, I was like, I don't need a car.

Yeah. Okay.

I'll take my parents' cars. They had a car for me and I'm gonna play with the money a little bit. And I sold it for 80,000 shekels.

Nice.

What is that in Peruvian?

Nothing.

30.

Yeah, it's nothing.

But it was amazing. And then I went to Miss Universe. Yeah.

Which was in Ecuador.

Ecuador. Sí. As if I'm Ecuadorian.

What was the experience like?

I was so nervous. fearful I'm gonna win again because I never tried or wanted to win the Miss Israel pageant. And I was like, oh my God, I'm gonna win this. No.

But they wanted you to put on a cocktail dress that you weren't having that or something?

No. And I was smoking everywhere.

Oh, yeah.

Not giving a care in the world.

You weren't grateful enough to be there for them to give you the win. Who won that year? Was it— what country won? Do you know?

Australia, I think.

Oh, good for them.

She was amazing.

I bet.

You know what the thing is? You go to the Miss Universe Pageant, you don't have a name anymore. I was Miss Israel.

Oh, sure. It's kind of convenient when you're meeting people.

I was with Miss Norway in the room, and we were best friends with Miss this and that. Oh, wow.

Oh, tell me about Miss Norway because they too culturally have some fun stuff going on.

Really?

Was she wild?

She was amazing.

Okay. You're not gonna say wild?

Wild?

No.

She wasn't wild.

No one was probably wild at Miss Universe.

It goes like this. So the South American they are the most experienced, super poised. They're there to win.

They own that shit.

The European ones, they're very mellow, no drama. There's the Asian girls who were great too. There wasn't much drama. I was not making drama, but I was the rebellion compendium. Competitor?

Yeah.

Yep. Contestant.

Contestant. Thank you.

Okay, so you left that and then And then you pretty then immediately start your conscription, right? Your mandatory 2-year military service. That's right on the heels.

I went there. I came back to Israel. The fame of being Miss Israel was too much for me. So I went to do some modeling in Milano for 3 months, then had to come back and do my service in the military.

Really quick, how was that 3 months in Milan?

Wild.

I bet it was so fun. Was it so fun? It was great.

It was amazing. Now that I think about it, I have no idea how my parents let me. I was 18. by myself in New York.

Were you living with other models? Like, thank you.

I was living with more models.

Miss Guam, Miss Mongolia.

A lot of Russian, a lot of Ukraine, a lot of, you know, girls from everywhere.

Is that what the primary ethnicity was at that time in modeling in '04? Was it a lot of Eastern European women?

With me, yes.

There was a lot of Eastern Europeans. They were from everywhere. But yes.

Can we go back for one second? I wanna ask why you were afraid to win.

'Cause it felt— the responsibility.

Okay. You weren't, like, feeling pressure. The exposure.

The fame. I was like a girl. I was a dancer, an athlete.

I think this is part of the reason people want to distance themselves from it is it's fun to do for a minute, but it probably didn't feel terribly substantive to you.

What is substantive?

Meaning in athletics, I set this goal, I have times, I reach for it, I work very, very hard. It's objective. There's a timer. I take this test, I did this number. This is like a very subjective—

yeah, you don't look It's all about how you look and it's superficial.

And you were probably desiring something a little more concrete.

Who were you? I guess that's the question.

But I was enjoying it, don't get me wrong. I was like enjoying both worlds. I was looking down at it.

Looking down your nose at it and enjoying it.

And enjoying it.

That's the dream. You can feel above it and participate in it.

Yeah, but you're definitely not going to win if that's how you look at it.

You have to respect They're kicking you to the curb.

No, I didn't.

Okay.

Yeah.

Okay.

So then you start your military service. So because of this great athletic background of yours, you become a trainer in the military, and then you learn Krav Maga. And I just am curious if you can tell me the history of Krav Maga. Is it pulling from other martial arts?

What I remember is using your surroundings against your attacker. So if there's stones, if there's sand, They teach you where to hit first. Pretty simple.

Okay. If I know it correctly, the ethos of it is it's all about real-world combat. Not in a ring, not on a mat, not at a contest. It's like, okay, when you're in the shit in real life, let's look around. What can we utilize?

Exactly. Although we did it in a very contained space on mattresses.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It'd be fun if they had like foam training rocks and foam broomsticks.

Yeah, like long Foam tea kettle.

Then this really interesting thing happens that if it doesn't happen, you and I never meet in our life, right? Your life is on a completely different trajectory, which is somehow you— well, not somehow, and I want the explanation. You end up in Maxim while you're still in the military, right?

Yeah.

How did that come about? Maxim magazine, for people who don't remember, who are not my age, it was a men's magazine with beautiful girls in it.

Yeah. Israel decided to promote Israel through the beautiful women that go to the IDF, and therefore, let's put them on Maxim magazine. And I was one of the women. And then I was invited to the gala.

Oh, I love that.

And I went with my husband. Back then was— trying to think if we were married already. No.

You met in '06, right?

In '06.

Yes.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay.

That's amazing. You remember this about everyone you interview?

Yeah, it's the goal.

And then you forget?

The goal? No, unfortunately, I remember quite a bit of it.

Wow.

That's really impressive.

Very impressive.

The goal, to let you in on my game I play, is the goal is to never look at this piece of paper.

Okay. So you were asking about Maxim. I don't think that Maxim was the thing that changed the trajectory.

This Maxim spread ended up on the COVID of the New York Post.

And this and that.

And there was controversy within the country of whether the tourism board should—

I do nothing and I feel like controversy chases me wherever I fucking go.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And if you have any tips on how to, like, avoid it, to say I tried different stuff. It always follows. So we come to the gala, we go to sleep, we wake up, I'm on the COVID And I know there's like this controversy going on in Israel. Different ministers are starting to argue whether or not it's the right thing to do to promote Israel. Crazy stuff. All I did was being paid $500 to do the photo shoot. And now I'm invited to this thing in New York and I'm 20— I wake up, and the ambassador is calling me in New York, and he's like, listen, there's been a thing. Go downstairs. It's when you still can buy the newspaper at the corner of each, uh—

Yeah, the newsstand.

Go get the New York Post. You're on the COVID of the New York Post, and CNN wants to interview you, and Fox News, and NBC News, and—

Oh, my God.

I'm, like, looking at my husband, Yaron, and I'm like, what do I— how— and Yaron is like, we ride the wave. The ambassador's saying— That's what your name means.

Your name means wave.

Wave.

Right?

We ride the wave. So, we go, and I do all these interviews. My English is nowhere where it is now.

Gail became fluent in English by watching Seinfeld and—

Friends.

You got it, girl.

I know. That's why I connect with you. That's why I understand you so well.

How old are you?

Are we the same age?

I'm about to be 39.

Amazing. Yeah, we're the same generation.

40 years old.

Yes. Amazing. When's your birthday?

Monday, August 24th.

Rosalto! Congratulations.

Thank you.

Okay, 39. 40 is the big one.

I know it's coming up.

So, your English is rough.

My English is rough. I do this thing. It's so bad to a point where Wolf Blitzer is interviewing me, and Yaron was standing next to the cameraman. And I'm like, Yaron, how do you say this in English? And then Yaron is like, no, you don't look at me. Never, ever did he ever go inside a place so I don't act out. him that live, right?

Yeah.

Imagine someone starting to speak a different language while interviewing. Never. And that was how I started my public life. Yeah.

Are they asking you specifically about the controversy? Or are they just like, who are you?

I remember I had 2 agendas— what agendas? 2, like, talking goals. One I'm not gonna get into this silly argument. I'm just gonna acknowledge everyone can have their own opinions, and that's it. And the other one was, I invite everybody to come to Israel, and la-dee-da. 'Cause it's crazy what people think about Israel. They think we're, like, riding camels, and everything is deserts, and people walk around with M16, which is not the case whatsoever.

We ride donkeys, and we carry M4s. No.

You're more chic. You're like cowboys. You know, you herd cattle and you do the things. But I was like, I invite you all to come to Israel. It's great. It's so much fun. Like a 20-year-old girl would.

Representing your country.

Yeah. What do you do?

Okay. You get out of the military after 2 years, and then this is also comedic. You go to college, university, and you're going to do medicine because primarily Ally McBeal.

Not medicine.

Law.

Oh, I'm sorry. Sorry.

Sorry.

Law. I didn't watch Ally McBeal.

Okay.

You've just found the crack in my knowledge. If she watched Grey's Anatomy, it would've been better.

Yeah, exactly. You were thinking great things.

I'm so sorry. So you wanted to do law because of Ally McBeal. And at this point, I said to myself in the research, this bitch loves TV.

I do too!

I'm with you.

Very influenced. Very easy to influence. Listen, first off, my whole idea back then was not really to be— I feel like it's something you say on interviews. Yeah, I loved Ally McBeal. But I think, first of all, I wanted to be so many things. I wanted to be a chemist, like in the pharmacy.

Yeah.

Which is weird to me. Why would I ever— okay. I wanted to be a choreographer. That's okay.

I understand that. And obviously, she did 12 years of dance.

Then, after all, my dad is an engineer, my mom's a teacher. I needed to have a proper job. So I was like, okay, it's either medicine, which I'm not smart enough for, or law. which I don't like to argue, and I don't like conflicts, but I was thinking about— I don't even know how to say it in English. Like, when you do diplomacy, and you know the law, and all of these things. I was like, I'll go there. Never happened.

So, there is a casting director in London who somehow comes across your modeling card.

Correct.

And decides to have you audition for Quantum of Solace, the James Bond movie. which is a crazy thing to happen.

Very random.

It's very random.

And I did not want to go.

She randomly saw your card.

She went to the agency, and she was looking for girls 'cause she was looking for the Bond girls, and she saw my card, and she was probably thinking, oh, maybe she can be right for it. And she asked to see me for an audition, which I wasn't planning on going. And then my agent called me, and I was in school. I was in university. And he called me, and he said, where are you? She's waiting. You should go. I was like, I'm not gonna go. I'm not an actress, and it's all in English, and blah, blah, blah.

Go.

So I walk inside, and I had a La Mer— do you know La Mer? Yeah, I love La Mer. I had a La Mer lip balm. I put the La Mer on, and I'm like, I'm so sorry I'm late. And she's like, oh my God, my lips are so, um, chapped. Do you mind if I use it? I'm like, yeah, keep it.

Oh, wow.

Oh, keep it. That's generous. For people who have never bought La Mer, it's very pricey.

It's my lips, her lips. We just met. Too much information. Have it.

How you doing?

It's like sharing a toothbrush. Just take it. Okay, just that's so weird. You can keep my toothbrush.

That's a crazy thing of her to ask.

Well—

'Cause if it's the pot, which it's the pot, right? But it's the pot. Yeah, it's your fingers all in it.

But I almost feel that if it was the lipstick, it's more weird.

That's crazy.

Yeah.

That's like sharing a condom though.

It's like a pot of nail fingers. But anyway, I give her the very expensive lip balm.

That might've been the reason.

And to this day, I think that my kindness led my daughter Because she did not get that role.

Right.

No.

But—

However—

Years later—

Say it. Say it, Dex.

This woman who was gifted a very expensive topical—

Lameo. Lips were now beautiful and perfect. Not Chap.

Urged Universal to meet Gal for Fast and Furious.

Crazy. To this day, I'm so grateful for this woman.

Yeah. Unreal. And you put yourself on tape, or somehow you get an audition that is sent to Los Angeles. And then based on that, they like you enough that they say, come to LA and have a— and this is in quotes— a personal meeting with Vin Diesel.

No, a test. Like a camera test.

Oh, it was a camera test. That sounds much better than the words I read. Have a personal meeting with Vin Diesel.

And we went to a hotel suite. Vin was hot. Just a chemistry camera test. Okay, great, great, great.

Do you know how many finalists there were? How many people were tested?

A bunch.

What clicked? Why did that work?

I don't know. I had good chemistry with them.

Were you nervous? Did you want the job, or were you kind of like, take or leave it?

No, I wanted the job. I came here. I remember I had to go back to— I came for like a night, morning, and then I left. Wow.

Okay.

I don't know. I was ready, so I came very prepared. So I did a good audition. And I had good chemistry with all of them, with the director.

Okay, so you end up in Fast and Furious. That was the 4th one, was the first one you did?

Mm-hmm.

And so, at that time, what are your thoughts about the future? Like, you're in this enormous franchise.

I have 2 parents who are like, you need to go back to school to get a job. You need to get a real job. This is temporary. This is a phase. And I had an incredible— I have an incredible husband. who was like, this is the lighter side of life. Just let's enjoy it. It's okay. He was the dreamer. And I'm, you know—

That's what I think I picked up the tension in your life a little bit as I learned about you is like this reluctance to be in the pageant, then this perhaps reservation about doing this thing. And it feels like it's the tension of having parents that were professional. And perhaps your fear that they would think what you were doing was vapid and pointless.

I think— I need to lay down on the sofa. I think there's something there, and I think it's also when you start a career at such a young age, and it's not like medicine. You're not a doctor with a goal. And I never knew being an actress was an option. And it goes against my sign. I'm a Taurus. I like stability. I like to know what's going on.

I know this.

You're a Taurus through and through. With a Taurus horizon in the Ox year.

Ooh, wow, that's where it gets tricky.

And I must say, I'm not stubborn at all. I'm very open-minded.

Yeah, because aren't Taurus stubborn?

I'm like Taurus in other ways. But anyway, let's go back to subject.

Okay, you're flexible.

But it was all new to me. It was going a lot against my personality because it's a lot of traveling, a lot of uncertainty. Nothing is up to me.

Yeah, you're out of control.

I'm not in control of anything.

Yeah, powerless.

And it's hard, and I don't like it. And sometimes I get roles and you do all these auditions and it's awful.

I would say now there's this murky gap between that extraordinarily auspicious thing, getting in Fast and Furious, and then Wonder Woman. Tell me about those years. I imagine it felt like there was security on the table, and then the next month you'd be like, no, that was it.

No, but it's different phases. So I did Fast 4, 5, and 6. They killed me on 7. It was such a hilarious way when the director called me. But Justin Lin called me one day, and he's like, listen, I'm gonna send you the script. On this one, we're gonna have to deal with your death. And I'm like, excuse me?

She's deaf?

And he's like, no, no.

Death.

Death. I'm like, yeah, I hear you. She lost her hearing.

I can learn sign language. Die!

Die!

You're gonna die!

Oh, no!

You're dead!

I was like, oh, okay.

There will be no Fast 8 for you. Exactly.

Dead. Dead.

Finito la comedia.

Did you take it personally?

No. I was bummed because it was a great— Fast and Furious is crazy. It's like a community. The casts are huge. There's so many of us. And within the years, 25 years, Everybody loves each other, and everybody knows each other's good parts and the less good, but everybody loves each other. And I was sad not to be part of this community anymore. After Fast and Furious, when we came here, I did so many auditions. We came for the premiere of the last Fast before they killed me! Supposedly, I'm back. I did the 8th one. Yeah, I came on a cameo.

Come on, it's Fast and Furious.

Cars are flying.

They can do anything.

Yeah, exactly. So, around there, I come, and I do so many auditions, and a callback, and a match, and I don't get it. And another one, and a callback, and I don't get it. And I had a 2-year-old daughter by then, and Eran had, like, a hotel and real estate and stuff. And I told Eran, I don't think I can do it anymore. It's like, fuck it. It's too much rejection.

Why?

I'll go back to school, or I'll be a sculptor. Then I wanted to be a sculptor.

Sculptor.

Thank you.

No, no, no, no, no. Don't curse the product. I know, I know.

I thought about it.

I thought about it, Monica. That was why there's a long delay. I didn't correct her immediately.

You're the best, and I appreciate you so much.

I wanted everyone to know you don't mean that you want to be a statue.

I did see the meme. I did already see it.

Yes, I just wanted to help everyone.

Damn it. No, you corrected me once, so please always correct me. That happened to me this weekend. So I'm having friends over for brunch, and I'm cooking, and we talk, and we talk, and then I go, yeah, well, you know, it's like, it's water across the bridge. And then they go, under.

Yeah.

But for years I've been saying across the bridge. No one said anything. I speak to my friend Melissa here, and I go, you know, but we need to think about the objective. And in the back door— I'm translating from Hebrew.

Sure.

In the back door, I just feel like— And then my husband, who was on the call, he's like, Gal, it's—

You don't want to get your objective through backdoor.

It's more like anal.

Maybe you're doing that to me too. That's true. I don't want to shame anyone.

Yeah, no, it's fine. It's just not what you would translate it from Hebrew. So thank you. Always feel free to correct me. I'm always learning.

Oh, I only felt important in that moment because I knew she didn't want to do it.

I thought it was sweet. Maybe she did want to be a sculpture. Well, that's why we need And that's also cool.

I don't know.

We need to know.

Okay.

So you wanted to be a sculptor potentially.

Sculptor.

Sculptor. Sculptor.

Sculptor.

Sculptor. It's hard. It's a hard word.

One day.

On your deathbed, you'll say the perfect English sculptor.

One of our best friends is from Venezuela and I'm around her all the time. And so we do run into this often and I'm always deciding like, what does she need? to be corrected on? What does she not?

Just not to stop the flow of the conversation.

Exactly.

No, I get that. But that was a good fix. I always wanted to be a sculptor.

To be admired, you know.

Honestly, I do want to be a sculptor.

Oh, yeah.

Wouldn't we all?

It'd be great.

You gotta be worthy of a sculpture.

And then I told Elon, let's just stop it. And then I did the audition for Wonder Woman.

And just to remind people, so first was Batman v Superman, and Wonder Woman was gonna make her first appearance So at the moment, it's not like we're thinking—

They wanted to test the water.

Yeah. And you're not necessarily at that moment thinking, I'm auditioning to be in a Wonder Woman-only movie.

No, you didn't know what you were auditioning for. It was like a secret. They didn't tell you. They gave me a scene that only later I realized was an Uma Thurman scene from, uh, Pulp Fiction.

Yeah. Oh, wow.

But then finally, when when they called me to do the test with Ben, then the director called me and he said, I don't know if you have it in Israel, but did you ever hear about, uh, Wonder Woman?

You're like, bitch, I watch all the TV. Have I ever?

Have I ever?

I know Ellen McBeal.

Exactly.

Friends.

Seinfeld. Yes.

We skipped one thing, and I only want to plant a seed because I'm going to bring it up later. But you also, after the first Fest, you did Night Day, Tom Cruise movie, and you're in a scene with Tom Cruise.

An incredible man.

Yeah, tell me about the experience.

I flew to Vienna to do the scene. I had, I think it was one night of work with him. And he was the most wonderful, and they changed the scene completely. So you come, you learned all your lines, and now with my English, they completely scratched that.

Oopsies.

And somehow I figured it out. And we did this scene together, and it was an incredible experience. And we had a lot of waiting to do, like you have when you shoot a movie. And he was talking to me a lot about— my grandfather was a Holocaust survivor, and Tom did, um—

Oh, Valkyrie?

Was it Valkyrie? I wanted to say that, but now I'm like—

I think so.

Yeah, so Valkyrie. Yeah, you're right. And he was, like, so curious about my family and my heritage. And years later, after I did Wonder Woman, we met in his house with another director and producer. And we all— No? And we all reminisced on the days. No, but another producer and director, and he opened the door, and he greeted me, and I didn't even think he would remember who I am. So I introduced myself, and he was like, what are you talking about? We did that. How's your grandfather? Is he still around?

Yeah.

That's kind of—

How can they remember?

Amazing.

Yes.

That's— people really—

Is he the one that does the cake?

Yes. Did you get a cake?

Have you gotten a cake from him? Okay, we shouldn't have brought that up. Never mind. Either of we— either of we— But we've eaten with him.

I have.

He makes cakes.

He sends the same cake to everyone.

He's—

most of the people he's worked with, a large percentage of the people he's worked with. Well, I worked with him for one night, Tommy. It's fine. It's okay.

I can take it.

Let's get Gal the cake.

I don't like cakes. It's fine. I like chocolate.

No, it's a fun thing in Hollywood. And it's like, basically, in your friendship circle, the goal is to know someone who gets the cake and then to go try it, which I got to do last year.

So you don't get the cake?

I've never worked with him. I've never even— well, I have met him.

Look at him. I'm not supposed to get the cake.

No, I don't deserve it.

Did you get, uh, Vin's— how do you call the house you built from cookies in America?

Oh, gingerbread.

Gingerbread house.

Who gives a gingerbread house?

Vin.

Oh, that's his thing.

Did you get it?

No, I've never worked with him.

No.

Do you get the gingerbread house?

Oh yeah.

Oh yeah, the biggest one.

We need a house for the house.

They bring it in a mobile home trailer.

We should start doing this. We should start sending out something and it's like special. Our guests will get it.

You should send like cool chairs.

Obviously. That feels expensive.

Yeah. Could you do something more in like a $100 range?

I think gingerbread is very expensive.

Oh, I think the Tom Cruise cake is pricey too.

You think?

But that sounds great. And then I think of us trying to compile the list and get addresses and then I'm out.

So wait a second. You didn't try the cake.

It was a game night at Liz Banks' house and someone at this party had worked with Tom Cruise enough that they got the cake and they're smart. They know to bring it to the party because everyone wants to try the Tom Cruise cake.

That cake is great. What was it? It's coconut.

It's always a coconut cake.

With like a vanilla spongy middle.

I guess. I've looked up pictures.

It's beautiful.

I've considered ordering it myself. It's a thing. It's a thing.

I'm so out of the loop. Oof, it's so hard to immerse in the American culture fully when you're a mother of so many children.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You don't need to. How many kids do you have?

2.

2 girls born?

2 girls. Yeah, you have 4 girls, right? Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

How old?

Uh, 11 and 13.

Oh, that's right.

That's right. I was a guy.

I was the 13th. I'll leave it at there because They don't like to talk about it. Okay.

Well, no, I tell everything that's spectacular about them.

Good. I think that's what we should do.

That's right.

Oh, so you're leaving it there.

You know, we're entering teenagehood.

I know, I know, I know.

How old's your oldest?

14 and a half.

Yeah. You know exactly what's happening.

Going to high school now. I have like a teenage girl, a girl, a toddler, and like a little girl, a little girl and a toddler. It's everywhere.

You got them It's amazing.

It's exhausting. And it's hard too. It's very hard. I didn't expect it.

As soon as you figure them out, they change.

Exactly. There's never like a status quo. And every time someone has a different need that you need to adjust everybody to.

Yeah.

But it's the most rewarding and amazing thing.

Stay tuned for more Armchair Expert, if you dare.

Funny, my mom always tells me, oh, it's so hard. Like any challenge about life for my mom is like, wow, it's so hard. How do you do it? It's like she relates too much that she feels more suffering than I ever will. Not just the kids, like anything. And I started telling her, Ima, I feel like life is a struggle. struggle every day. It's not comfortable. Life is not convenient.

Correct.

It's always like we need to overcome, but then is when you're happy. Yeah, that's when you get happy. Or yeah, when you earn it.

Okay, so through the Batman v Superman, you end up getting your own movie, Wonder Woman, the first one. And Monica, do you remember how much money this fucking movie I don't. $862 million. It opened at $103 million. The estimates were like $65 million, and this fucking thing was just a juggernaut.

You love that.

How, after these years of frustration, did you integrate this new bit of information that was virtually opposite of your whole ride prior to that? How did you join these 2 experiences into something cohesive?

And how hard or easy I think, like, in life, it builds up, right? You don't live the jumps. I'm not still stuck in where I was and all the rejection. Now I had to deal with filming a movie, be the little girl that needs to conquer this mountain, and how do I do it? And it's the first time that I'm doing a movie that is my title, and it's so physical, and how do I do it? And being a mom. And so there was a lot to do throughout the film. We were always pushing, Patti and I. I think that's the thing. and I were always like, let's change the script. And the studio wouldn't give you the extra money to film it. So you need to film the 2 versions of the scene all in one day to make sure. So you do all of that.

Also, yeah, they had half the budget a normal movie of that kind would have had.

We were like the underdogs. Yeah. Again, going back to women's self-awareness and all of that. Let's do a movie for the girls.

Exactly.

Hopefully it'll break even.

Yeah, exactly. Let's see how it's gonna—

Let's give them no resources.

And Patti and I were like, this is gonna be so special, and we need this type of movie, and we need this type of— and it's all about love, love, love. We were all— from the first time Patti and I met, all we talked about was love and humanity and how do we bring light to the world. And it sounds a little bit like, who the fuck do we think we are, right? But when you're given an opportunity to tell a story that is about something and you want to say something about something positive, why not?

Yeah.

So we were super invested. And then the movie comes out. It was amazing. But I wasn't popping— OK, to be fair, I was going through a postpartum. I had my second one. And she was 8 weeks old when we started promoting the movie. And I had a major back injury. So I was miserable. And then so when the movie opened, I was very happy and I felt satisfied with the success. But I wasn't happy. Yeah, yeah, there was some kind of asymmetry between where I was personally in my own life, in my own body, to what the outside world would think about me.

Okay, so that kind of answers what I meant. My next question Which is so often, I think for many of us who get lucky, it's weirdly hard to be present for it because the lucky event can potentially lead to lots of opportunity, lots of options, lots of shit in the future. It signals, oh wow, I might now have this future. And so the monkey brain can't resist thinking of now what's possible because of this one thing. You often kind of miss the thing. Did you experience that at all?

Yeah. it's not even that necessarily. Well, first of all, the way my mental health works, and it's nothing that I do to control it, I only realize what happened to me in retrospective. So when I'm there, it's too overwhelming. It's too much to grasp and to understand fully. So I just ride the wave.

Yeah.

And I understand it clicks, but I'm not feeling.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Only in retrospective, when I can actually grasp it.

Yeah.

Retrospective, I can grasp on these type of things.

Yeah.

Like when it happens, it's too overwhelming. You don't have time.

It makes me sad though.

But I think it's a protection mechanism that our mind has. Because you can lose your mind.

Some part of you doesn't trust it. It's very hard to compute what's happening.

It's also not about me. It's not about you. Yes, it's my success. It's my face. It's my movie, blah, blah, blah. But it's not me that they love. It's like this image, this character.

A female being a matriarch, which no one gets to see. No little girls get to see, or it's very rare.

Yes, I agree with you. And when I say it, I'm talking about not just as the female. It's funny, I'm trying to find the right words to put it, but I I think that if you really get it, if you're really present in the moment of success because of the ego, it can bring you to places that can be very tricky.

You're suggesting that it might be healthier to miss it.

Not to miss it completely, but it's like the best food for ego, right? Yes, yes, yes. And I think most people think the ego is the worst enemy a human can It can take you out.

I think ego's gotten a bad rap, but I know what you're saying.

Okay, I'm interested to hear.

Yeah, this notion you should be egoless is ridiculous. You need your ego.

You can't be egoless.

No, and you need to pursue your own. And then you go too far and you learn and you dial it back. But it's a yin and yang and it's a balance.

I see the ego like this, like, yeah, give me yours.

Give me more. Bottomless, insatiable.

On a very superficial level.

And it is. But there is a percentage of it that is ideal.

That makes you a better person and makes you live up to what the ego tells you you are. And things I might be able to do this thing currently?

It doesn't seem like I could. That's your ego. And that's good. Someone stared at Everest and was like, yeah, no one's got to the top of that. I think I could. That's ego. Now, if he gets up there and he's like, I'm a god, now we're in trouble.

Exactly.

But the ego got you up there.

But don't you think a lot of people— I met a lot of successful people that when I talked to them about the moment of success, the moment of breakthrough that they've had in their careers, I find that a lot of them were in the same area as I was. They didn't pop the champagnes and like parties and we did it. They had some weird tension going on with it. I had it even more because of the postpartum and because of my back injury. And some would say that it's all one. Yeah, it's all part of one thing.

Well, yeah, I think it's hard when people are like, you're the greatest, you're the greatest, you're the greatest, and you're Yeah.

You don't feel like the greatest.

By the way, you're not. No one is the greatest. And if you feel like you're the greatest, then that's also a problem. It's a huge problem. Yeah. So I think being wary of it's wise. Yeah.

You got to keep your eye on it.

You got to keep—

yeah.

Okay, let's talk about the runner.

Yes.

Yes. So I had brought up Tom Cruise because nobody has ever ran in a motion picture as well as Tom Cruise. I'm so obsessed with his running. My children are too. We watch the Mission Impossible movies on repeat. We love them.

I love it.

And I love that every one of those movies, they're gonna build in a sequence where you're gonna watch this man run. And sometimes you're gonna watch this man run in one solid wide shot for like 2 and a half minutes at a sprint.

Yeah, it's amazing.

How does this guy not rip his Achilles and his hammies and his everything?

He did.

He did. Okay, that's the answer. How does he not? He does.

Yeah.

Okay, so the premise of The Runner is you are a lawyer and you are also a runner, and you have this little boy, and the little boy's diabetic. When we meet you, you're dropping him off at school, and then you're gonna go for your run. We can tell immediately this is your half hour of your day, right? That is bliss.

She starts the day, she goes for a run.

What's the great song you start with?

Blondie.

Was it Blondie? It's so good that when I heard, I was like, fuck, I gotta drop back into some Blondie. Yeah, it's so good.

So good.

So you start running. There's another dude.

Now it annoys me that I can't remember.

Rob. Rob.

Help. Trying to find it. That's about—

about One Way or Another. One— no, no, no. But Ring of Fire.

No.

Okay, we're not gonna find it.

Okay, whatever.

All right, go on.

I thought you're gonna look at the movie credits. They're great. They're not there yet.

Okay, okay.

So I love you.

You have a hard job. We're constantly like, how many feet are in a kilometer? Go!

I need it now! We know it's not easy. We checked. Okay. Yeah. Okay.

So yes, you've dropped your kid off. You're going through your run through the park. You know, you're on a call with a client. We learned that you're a lawyer, and then it's back to fun time. And you see another dude who's running. He's fast. And already at this point in the movie, I'm like, how long is she gonna run?

Yep.

Y'all, she's gonna run the entire fucking movie.

movie.

It's insane. So just in a nutshell, you get then another call. It's coming from your child's phone. You learn quickly that your son's been abducted by somebody. And now this person is giving the kind of— I would say the things that it parallels is On the Bus speed, uh, lock. You're on a phone call, someone has the leverage.

I'm racing time to save my son's life.

That's right. And you run through all of London, I'm pretty sure.

Over 6 miles.

Oh. Of London and And are they like, if you stop running, he's dead?

I'm not allowed to stop running. I'm not allowed to talk to anybody. I'm not allowed to get on a cab or a tube or anything. I need to run and save my child.

Because there is a legal case she's involved with.

We're not going to tell you the whole movie, but it's like a nonstop— when you start watching it, it's like not a second to take another breath. You're at the edge of your seat.

In no particular order, what is the game plan? You go like, okay, you read the script, you're like, okay, yeah, this is really cool. And then do you even let yourself go like, but how are we gonna film this, and what will that experience be like? Do you not let yourself even consider that because you like the movie?

Okay, so I'll give you the time frame. So I read it after what happened to me with my 4th baby and almost dying, blah, blah, blah. They did the whole thing. It took me many months to recover. So for months, for the first months, I was just in the listening to podcasts, reading a little bit, and just resting and walking with shades in the house all the time 'cause I had migraines all day long. And then I read the script, and I think to myself, really fucking good script. I couldn't put it down.

Yeah.

It was so good. I read it one go. When it works, it works, and you know it. And I speak to my agent, and I'm like, I'm not gonna be able to do this film.

No. And honestly, I don't even know if Tom Cruise can do this film. I think the running is nonstop.

Who can do this film? Is it AI? Who's going to run 110 pages of running? And she's like, okay, just take the call with Kevin Macdonald, the director.

Quickly add, he directed one of my very favorite movies of all time, Last King of Scotland.

Incredibly talented person. Amazing, talented, great, great director. I take the Zoom with him, and I say to myself, I'm not going to start talking about what happened to me in my head. I'm not going to— I'm just going to be professional. Let's talk about the movie. And he's like, so, I heard you just had your baby. I'm like, yeah. And he's like, it gets easier from one pregnancy to the next, no? From one delivery to the next. I was like, well, not really on this one. He's like, what happened? And I'm like, I had, like, a thing called CVT, but it's fine now. You had cerebral venous thrombosis?

He knew about it?

Whoa. He had it before I did.

Whoa!

No way!

We call that SIM.

No way!

6 weeks before I did.

6 weeks before? Oh, my goodness. What number child was his?

Uh, 3.

Who was he giving birth to?

What presidency was he on?

No, but I was like, there's a migrainous stage? Yes, I'm in it. Anyway, we connect on this level. We talk about the script. He tells me his vision. I love it. But I say, listen, I'm not gonna be able to do it. I'm not there. I'm just recovering. And he says, well, Well, after talking to you now, I can't imagine anybody else doing this role. How long would you need? And I go, 9 months, 1 year. And we hang up. And then he calls me back, I think within the hour. And he said, the studio is willing to push it for you.

Wow.

Would you be in? Are you in?

Wow.

And then I said, yeah. And you know what else is crazy? All the neurologists that I went to see after what happened to me told me, you need to break sweat at least half an hour a day. If there is one thing I hate, it's running.

Hate.

Oh, really?

And I'm also spiritual a little bit. I was like, this is the universe giving me exactly what I need. A director that will understand what I've been through, breaking sweat like there's no tomorrow.

Forcing you.

What can be better than that? So a couple of months later, they brought me the most amazing trainers.

And were they specifically like running coaches?

The first one, Malachi, was for running.

And was that person like a collegiate coach or something for running?

He trains the US Olympic gold winner.

Oh, there you go.

Incredible. And I worked with him every day for months.

And was he a sprinting coach or a long distance coach?

Sprinting, but I ran long distance.

Yeah. So my question was, I had a sprinting incident on my birthday this year.

Are you a runner?

Well, I'm born on January 2nd. My New Year's resolution was, okay, I gotta do sprints twice a week.

That was your New Year's resolution? You gotta do sprints?

Twice a week. Yeah.

Your life is in a really good place.

Oh, absolutely.

Yeah.

I'm down to that. Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. You're right. What a privilege that that was.

No, it's amazing.

Anyways, first run out, I happened to do with a bunch of people. We got a little competitive. My friend blew out a butt cheek. I fucked up my foot. And then I was like, okay, I gotta learn what the pre-sprint warm-up is. And then I asked chat, and dude, it's lengthy. He's fucking swing this way, swing—

I mean, of course it's hard on your body.

Sprinting's very hard. I know, it's hard.

Like my husband say, don't try— I don't know, how old are you?

51.

My husband, he always say, never pick up a new sport after 50.

Yeah, I think that's fair and smart.

Yeah.

I mean, I had sprinted before. Anyways, was there an insane warm-up before you would do takes?

Yeah.

I'm an impatient person, so that part of the process would be very hard for me. Like, okay, I'm about to do this scene. I'm gonna do 20 minutes of warm-up.

No, not like that.

Okay, okay.

But it would be like 7 minutes. Now I need to do some cycling. You get on the bike.

Then I need to do some stretching.

then I need to do this, and then I go. But I finished the film on crutches.

Oh, I was gonna— so, my next question was, did you get hurt? How many times did you get hurt?

I got hurt multiple times throughout the film. The character had a watch, and I connected the watch to my phone so I can see my steps and everything. I had weeks where I had, like, 150-something thousand steps.

Jeez.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So, it was nonstop, and there's no time to recover. You don't sleep well because you film all the time.

You work in the cold.

in the heat, whatever.

And when people watch this movie and they're like, wow, that was a really long sprint. I don't think I could sprint that long. You must remember that was one of 8 takes before the fucking extras crossed at the right time.

It was a whole thing. But I had, like, stress fractures in my feet.

I bet.

And I'm an ugly runner.

No, I was just about to make the opposite statement.

No, because we know how to film it.

Okay.

I run beautifully until my— Knees down.

What happens?

Phoebe from Friends.

No!

I'm telling you.

Her whole body is foiled.

No, she does it.

That—

no, that's all in control. But knees down.

But what do you mean? There's not much to the knee down.

You mean the feet? Well, you'll be surprised.

Oh, okay. I kind of want to see it.

I kick them out. I kick them out.

Oh, it's gazelle-like, I think.

Okay, well, that did probably hurt your feet. Okay, so we want to do heel-toe next time. Just reminding people about it.

No, heel-toe. I did heel-toe and everything. It's just the way I'm built.

Did you have days where you— you know, you've got your 6:00 AM pickup or whatever. You have longer hair and makeup, it's probably 5:00 AM. Did you have any days where you woke up and you're like, oh, yeah, not a chance we can shoot that scene today?

Never, ever, ever happened to me in my entire career.

Even on this movie?

I trust the people that I work with. I know that everyone that are gonna show up are gonna show up, and I need to do my job.

Wow.

Okay. But if I have these type of moments, even then— I was about to say unless I'm, like, super sick, but even then, I—

Any cortisone shots in joints or feet during the filming? Were they having to work on you like a boxer?

Yeah. They worked on me every day, every other day.

Yeah.

It was insane.

That's the athlete in you. You're gonna keep pushing. You're just gonna show up and do it.

Yeah. Even on crutches. By the way, when I was on crutches, we filmed patter shots.

I'm envious of you. To have this movie in your life when you're older, and your girls are growing up, and like, just the physical fucking test you passed.

But I knew it was a gift. It wasn't like, oh, fuck, how am I gonna do it? It was like, shit, I'm gonna learn how to run. Oh, my God.

But you did it. It's like, it's an accomplishment in and of itself, which I hope is rewarding to you.

It is.

It is.

Very.

You have something, period. You'll walk away with something, period.

Exactly.

Which is rare.

Forever.

That's right. Well, Gayle, this was a delight.

It was so much fun. Yeah, yeah.

I hope you enjoyed your first podcast.

It was great.

Okay, good.

They're all like this. I'll always remember you guys.

They're all like this, so just say yes to all of them. I promise they're all like this.

It's a lot of fun. Thank you so much for being so interesting.

Watch The Runner on Amazon Prime, September—

2nd.

2nd, 2nd, 2nd.

September 2nd, September 2nd, September 2nd.

Okay, The Runner, Amazon Prime, September 2nd. Thank you so much for coming.

This was fun.

Thank you so much. Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank God Monica's here.

She's gonna let 'em have the facts.

I want to start with revisiting my hemorrhoid thing.

Okay.

I've done a bit more of an autopsy on it, on what I think actually happened, because I think when we talked about it, I kind of blamed Hannes, if you recall. That's what precluded— preluded it. And, um, I know actually what happened. I'm so used to having the Braun the sprayer. And here I had this harness on the road, and I was doing a ton of wiping. And I'm out of practice wiping without the brundle. And I go too hard and too frequent because it just doesn't— because I'm so used to being able to clean clean. And I realized that's what caused it. So I'm back kind of on the toilet, spending more time again on Instagram and stuff because I've decided it was definitely more about the wiping.

I think is what it was.

Okay. Good luck to you.

I believe it. You now have one, right?

I had one.

Not a hemorrhoid flapper.

That's what I thought as well.

A Brundle. Like you have a, you have a flushy or whatever the hell.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have, um, now in every bathroom.

Yeah. And it changes your life, right?

It's, um, yeah, you're pampered.

You are. And you're, you take way less abuse down there.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You can get the job done in way less time.

Way less.

Yeah, well, report back on if you get another one.

Okay, next time you're on the road.

It won't be. It's gonna be because he's on the toilet for a long time.

He does spend a few minutes down there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Some me time.

I just read a comment the other day that said, I know you're reading on this on the toilet, get off. And I wrote, I wrote on there, busted. When else am I gonna do it? I'm Looking at Instagram unless I'm on the toilet.

Yeah, that's true. Speaking of things people have said, a lot of people asked if Jack McBrayer texted me on my birthday. He did not.

I'm, I'm very sorry.

So I just need to make that—

Did you text Keckner?

No, he texts me, but he didn't. We haven't— we actually haven't done that in a few years.

You haven't celebrated birthday buddy status?

No, but I wish, I wish him that. You share with Keckner?

Yeah.

He used to text me on my birthday 'cause we were birthday buddies. Very sweet. Yeah, so I guess I didn't make the cut for Jack. And he can try again next year.

Okay. This is a—

Putting that out there.

Formal heads up to him.

August 24th.

Big one next year. If ever there was a time to start sending the text, it's next birthday.

That's true.

Speaking of my birthday, I went to a really good restaurant.

I was just about to ask, how was your birthday dinner?

It was incredible. It's called River. Dennis, highly recommend. It was so good. And there were some armcherrys working.

Oh, no kidding.

Yeah. And so they brought over a special treat. Treat.

What was it?

An aperitivo.

That's a cocktail?

It's like an after-dinner drink.

Okay. An aperitif?

Yeah, I think it's an aperitif. Yeah, not an aperitivo.

Oh, I thought the actual name of the drink was aperitivo, like a spinoff of aperitif.

No, I was saying—

Is it Aperol in it or is it Is it some kind of apricot?

I don't think it has Aperol in it.

Or tiff.

Aperitifs have different ones. There's like Fernet. Ding, ding, ding! When we had Bert Kreischer on, we gave each other drinks to drink.

Yes.

And he wanted me to drink Fernet. That's an after-dinner drink, an aperitif.

Okay.

Um, they're all interesting. They kind of have like a licorice— they, they taste kind of weird. I think they're They're meant to like—

Do they coat?

A little.

I think they're meant to like cleanse your palate.

Um, Grand Bouillie? Drambuie. Drambuie is an aperitif.

Drambuie?

Yeah, people only drink it after their—

Or Grand Marnier.

Grand Marnier is something, but I don't know if that's aperitif. That's in like—

You know, I carry Drambuie when I have the bar. I don't have a clue what it is.

I— well, you've ever tasted it? You would never have it as a cocktail, or I would have never. If they're a sponsor, I'll be happy to.

A-M-B-U-I, I think.

Okay, it's liqueur.

Liqueur.

Golden color, 40% ABV liqueur made from Scotch whiskey, heather, honey, herbs, and spices.

See, that's an aperitif for sure.

Yeah, definitely.

That's a dessert.

No wonder I never—

yeah, served it or tried it. That makes me think you're declaring this is my last drink of the night, which I would never have done.

It might have been though. It might be like Grand Marnier where you like cook with it or something. I'm not seeing the word aperitif anywhere on this Wikipedia.

Could you ask it when it's normally drank?

It's a brandy—

wait, see, brandy's an after-dinner drink for sure.

But aperitif is not all— all after-dinner drinks are not aperitifs, but all aperitifs are after-dinner drinks.

Are there, uh, different types of cigars that are for after dinner?

Probably.

Right? With your brandy.

An aperitif translates directly into English as a pre-dinner alcoholic drink meant to stimulate appetite.

Oh, that makes sense because aperitivo is pre-dinner.

That makes sense.

There we go.

But there's a— but no, sorry. So there's aperitifs and digestifs, and those are for after.

Okay, so which one is cranberry?

It's neither.

No, no, it says it's traditionally a digestif. Oh, okay.

Traditionally a digestif.

Yeah, Drambuie. Look, I've been at a million meals where people order that after. Drambuie? Yeah, I think my father even would bang that.

That's funny. I had a bottle and I don't remember ever serving once in 7 years.

Of course, that bar—

no one came to that bar to have the last drink of the night.

Or yeah, no one had eaten.

I would have punched them in the face if they asked me for a digestif.

Get out of here. That— we have that as a test.

It's also used in classic cocktails. Rusty Nail.

Oh, that was my dad's drink.

Yes.

Okay, so that's just a cocktail. That's not a digestif. Then a Bobby Burns.

That sounds good.

Yeah.

Yeah, Bobbies are fun.

That's a Scotch, sweet vermouth, Drambuie. I can't even say it. That sounds so stupid.

Drambuie.

Yeah. And bitters.

Yeah, Drambuie is really bumping for you.

Yeah, I, I— it sounds like something you— a word you completely made up.

Yeah, it's a little Sounds like baby talk.

Yeah, it does.

What do you want? My drambui. Your, your bot— your what? Your dark bottle? Your dark blanket?

Yeah. Well, all right.

Oh, so it was a tremendous meal for you. What were the entrees? What did you—

Oh my God, we had so much stuff because it's in Venice, notoriously very far away from my home. So—

Time-wise.

Time-wise.

So, yeah.

Not at all far nautically.

That's true. Yeah. But so we are not going to go that often. Plus it's very hard to get in. So I don't, so we had to kind of get everything we wanted.

Eat the whole menu because it's one and done maybe.

Yeah. So we got, we each got a hand roll, different ones. We each got, no, those were the eaches. And we got this like kind of fried chicken thing. It was so good.

I love fried chicken.

Wagyu skewers.

Come on.

Yes. Rice.

What? Leftovers?

I think there was a few leftovers that obviously Jess took home. Um, there was a rice, like kind of a fried rice, but, and it had sweet corn and it was delicious. Um, we got, oh, we got a ramen. That was amazing. What else did we get? I'm missing like a big section, I think. A lot of vegetables, an eggplant dish, a sweet potato dish, a something.

You traditionally like eggplant?

I do love eggplant.

You like eggplant?

I love eggplant parm.

Okay.

I mean—

I think it's a big mush.

Well, if you're just boiling it, yeah. But if you are creating a yummy eggplant dish, it's good.

I think that sounds delicious. I can't remember the last time I had it.

It's a mush surrounded by a skin you can't even chew.

Actually, I like it in my chili. Thai food.

Yeah, exactly.

Oh, wow.

Yeah, you're— if you're just cooking it not willy-nilly, like an eggplant steak. Yeah, if you're just boiling it, it sounds like you're just boiling it.

I've never prepared eggplant. I've just taken a bite of eggplant Parmesan.

I'm like, oh, I love eggplant.

It's mush with this ring around it that's hard to chew.

Probably prefer chicken parm, but—

Well, yeah, that's my issue when I've been next to people that order the eggplant Parm, and they're not vegetarian. I'm like, you— they have chicken parm. It's not like they don't have it.

I had it at Little Dom's on Sunday, eggplant parm.

Over chicken parm?

I get to order both and eat.

Yeah, put the eggplant on top of the chicken. Maybe that would be—

Eggplant parm to me is almost more lasagna-ish than it is chicken parm.

Okay. All right.

Because it's often stacked if it's done correctly.

Speaking of leftovers, so you had a girl only birthday party on Sunday.

It really wasn't a birthday party. It was like a last-minute— I was like, I want to play mahjong today. It's my birthday weekend. So I just kind of texted all the ladies I know, and I was like, does anyone want to come over for this?

And then you catered it with All Time, in that you got a bunch of takeout from All Time.

Yeah.

And so then Kristin brought one of the dishes back to our house.

Yes, she did.

And then I opened the fridge and I see, oh, is that an All Time box? And then I go and it's that fucking rice with that insane sauce. sauce and eggs. Aaron, it's so— we have to figure out when we're going before you go out of town. And there was just a little half of it.

Didn't we just go yesterday?

Well, that's why we went.

Oh, okay.

So then I went.

Yeah.

And I'm like, oh my God, I wonder if there's more at Monica's house. So I text you, hey, is there any more? You didn't respond. So then I just went over there because I had— I was like rabid now. And Jess had just finished.

It wasn't— to be fair, we didn't get into it. It wasn't him.

Okay.

Um, he's I'm like barely eating. It's a little stressful for me, but, uh, it was a bunch of— it was a big party.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And most of the food was gone. I mean, Kristen took an entire thing.

Yeah.

So I assumed for you.

Uh, well, it was half gone when I dug into it.

All right.

Um, but then that got me a little crazy for all time. So then Aaron and I went and he had never been, and we had the most romantic dinner on the sidewalk, candlelit.

Yep.

And they do a steak for 2, for lovers, really.

It is. We've discussed the steak for 2 because Callie and I would always get the steak for 2 and we'd eat it all and everyone was surprised because it's a big old steak.

The steak is easy to take down with 2 people. It's the sides that are impossible. We did not accomplish eating all the sides.

We probably left £3 of potatoes.

Yeah, potatoes.

And I mean, I ate a lot of it. Yeah.

The cauliflower, the peppers. We had ordered stupidly a side. I didn't even know that steak came with all that stuff. So I'd ordered the shrooms, the King Temple or something shrooms.

I would love to do a double date with you and Kelly.

Yeah. And then we all—

2 steaks. In between our tables is a puddle of oil from those dishes.

Does that happen when you get it, Monica? Because we were outdoors, so it didn't matter terribly much, but it was just gushing fat off the side of it over the table, and the whole sidewalk was stained where we were eating.

They'd have to throw kitty litter on it.

Absolutely.

I've never noticed that before.

Like someone dumped their oil out of their engine.

Oh God.

Um, but it was still luscious.

It's so good there. It's so good. Love it. I have a story.

Okay.

I was with my friend Sally. We were driving to Honor Bar in Beverly Hills, and we look over, and do you know Coke Coco is a robot.

Oh, the gorilla. Okay, hold on.

Coco is a robot that carries food, a delivery system, and it's like a box and pretty low to the ground on wheels that travels across the city and drops off food.

It's the cutest thing ever.

I know.

It has a little smiley face on the front.

And like eyes.

I think it has eyes. Now, I do think normally they have a, um, flag. So it's like you can see.

They started with flags when they came out 7 years ago. The flags are gone. They've all been ripped off and broken.

Well, yeah, because— so we're at the stoplight. Yep, that's Coco. Oh, that one has a flag.

They get themselves into a lot of trouble though.

They're rascally. I see them sometimes. I can't tell if they're playing or they're really stuck. They'll be going in a circle around a tree, and I'm like, is it playing?

It's uncomfortable. Um, and also Jess said that if it's at a stoplight, it asks people to press the button for it.

Oh really?

I've never experienced that.

Oh, I would love to— I would—

No, you might have seen that on TikTok or something. But anyway, so we look over and there's a car accident. A car hit Coco.

Oh no.

And Coco was under, like, kind of under her. And, and, and then they were trying to put— they were so confused, obviously. And they're like trying to pull over, but it's like stuck under there. By the way, lots of damage to the car.

Oh, sure.

So then Sally and I are screaming like we're— like, like we've seen a kid get hit.

Yeah, I'd rather see a kid get hit.

Sure, we all would. A dog, a kid, a No, Sally had the right—

I was, I was like, Coco, Coco, screaming. And she was like, that's bad, that's really bad. But she was saying, because the car, like, she was like, oh my God, that car is like scary.

She cared about the car?

No, this is where I'm going, where I actually then after was like, oh my, I can't believe I felt like real feelings about that.

Sure.

against a Mercedes.

Yeah.

Kin of my car.

Sure, sure.

Cousin.

Yes. And it's like a kind of older couple and they're so confused and like the lady like opens the door to see. And I, and like, I imagine being that lady and you, you hit like you're in the car, something's clearly horrible. You've hit something. Yeah.

You're dragging now.

Yeah. And then you open it and you see it's Coco. And so first you're like, Relieved, because I'm sure you're like, I hit an animal or someone on a bike. Yes.

Yeah.

So first you're relieved and then you're so pissed. I mean, imagine how pissed you'd be if you hit a robot that was crossing the street and it damaged your car. And now you have to call, what, 911 and be like, reporting an accident. The police come, Coco's there. Coco seemed actually okay.

Really?

Yeah, they're sturdy.

Wow. I know.

Then I thought about the people not receiving their pizza.

Yeah, the glass of wine that was inside.

Yeah, it was probably already inside.

You can order a glass of beer and Coco and it's just bouncing through the sidewalk. Am I trying to get a sip left?

So it was traumatic. And then yesterday I was walking by, um, in Venice there was like a bunch of Cocos and they were all like in a line and we said it was for the service.

Oh, that makes sense.

Yeah.

Now I'm inclined to think that Coco was probably following the rules. I don't think they can break rules. So this woman probably didn't look in the crosswalk.

It was a man driving, to be fair, but yes.

Oh, I thought—

why did I assume it was a woman?

No, because the woman was in the passenger seat. She opened it to see and was like, what the fuck?

Yeah, so they were probably chatting and they missed that Coco was in the crosswalk.

I know, but I don't think— I really think it's very hard to see when you don't have the flag. So yes, obviously they turned that way.

Coco doesn't just drive out into traffic or go on, uh, red lights on the crosswalk.

Yeah, I think it was crossing and they turned probably in front of Coco.

Was it an SUV or a car?

Monster truck? Yeah, I'm wondering, like, tall.

Yeah, if you're in a big SUV.

Mercedes?

Was it a G-Wagon?

It, it wasn't. It was a— I think it was a sedan. It was like my car.

I believe I blame the human.

I do too.

But Aaron, if you now have to pay for damage to your car, like that is life ruining. If a robot pulls in front of you and is just dragging, like the car's just getting crumpled.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Who owns Coco?

Exactly. And then I thought this, I was like, okay, now whose, whose fault is it and who should pay for what? And now this human has to pay.

That's what's tricky is is like, we can say almost for sure it was the people driving's fault because again, they don't jump out into traffic. But Coco can't give a statement. Oh, I bet Coco has onboard video.

They probably do.

Yeah. So I bet when they call Coco's parents and say, you owe me so much money, Coco's parents, yeah, they're gonna go, well, let's review the tape. And they're gonna go, Coco had the, the, the crosswalk was inviting Coco to go into it. It's your obligation to see if anything's in the crosswalk before you turn Right on red. And they're gonna say, go fuck yourself.

They're gonna say, we couldn't see her.

And then they're gonna have to call their insurance company, and their insurance company's gonna pay for it. And then there's a premium.

This is horrible.

I hate to think of Coco getting reprimanded for this.

No, no. If you're gonna walk out, and even if you're walking out, you still have to be careful.

Coco is extremely careful. This is why sometimes you see them stuck at a tree.

No, they're not careful. They're just like—

The other funny thing about learning disabilities, just to tell people, Coco goes so fast sometimes. Have you ever seen Coco haul ass?

Yeah.

Oh, it's so funny. Have you seen it? Yeah. Because they're so scared all the time and they go so slow most of the time. But when they get some wide open sidewalk, they fucking— they punch it.

Yeah.

Yeah. That's why I think they're a little rascally.

They go slow when they're around people and stuff. They have sensors, obviously. Whatever. I just— I couldn't believe my reaction. I could not believe—

I think that's the right reaction. No, I don't know.

I'm trying not to. We shouldn't have too many feelings around these robots. It's getting people— some girl died.

Well, she did.

She died talking to her chat.

Oh, what?

Yeah, she did. Um, she, she did. She had mental health issues. Yeah, she was struggling and she was talking to chat and something, or an AI. She was talking to an AI.

Yeah.

And I didn't finish reading it. Okay. But basically I don't think we need to have two. I think we need to— this is how I feel about animals. Okay. It's the same thing where I'm like, we still have to prioritize humans above.

It's hard.

And I'm going to say humans, animals. I'm going to give you guys this: humans, animals, robots, in that order.

But there are some exceptions. Like you have to Okay, a silverback, of which there are a very limited number, versus one of the 8.5 billion people on the planet.

No.

If there's a button I have to hit, that's a tough call.

Does it matter what person it is?

I won't know who it is. This is like, um, um, that, that interesting— there was a great— what was the old spooky show from the '60s and '70s? Twilight Zone. There's a Twilight Zone with this guy. Someone comes to his house, basically says, um, for X amount of money, you hit this button, somebody on the planet who you've never met will die. And then, you know, through the course of the episode, he agrees.

What do they get?

Money. A ton of money.

Okay.

He hits the button, and then he says to the person, what happens now? And they go, we take it to someone on the planet that you've never met, or whatever. Basically what you realize is someone— you're next. Whoever hits the Now kills you. Pretty good twist.

I—

it's similar to that, pressing that button. I would never press that button over a silverback. Yeah, I'm for humans.

I might be willing if I didn't have children. I might sacrifice myself for a—

okay, you can sacrifice yourself all you want, but killing Coco for Coco? No.

What if I— what if I dove out of the— like, I dove and pushed Coco out of the way right before he got hit and I got hit by a car saving Coco's life? He'd be a hero in my eyes.

Give you a police military send-off.

Yeah, I hope this city would have like a big presentation for me.

I miss her. I mean, and like, I miss her. I'm sorry that happened to her. I wonder what happened to those elderly.

So you think it's a her, right?

Yeah, that one was. They're different.

Oh, okay, because I most often think it's a little boy.

Oh, I think of it as a her.

You do?

Yeah.

Interesting.

Yeah, they have They do? Yeah, their names are printed on the side so you can tell.

Oh God, they're so cute.

See, it's just fucking with us.

It's trying to—

oh, it's so bad. It's so bad. I hate Coco, but I love her.

Stay tuned for more Armchair Expert, if you dare. What's the difference? Like, you're fine with me loving Groot, right? Like, but Monica, what's the— is there a huge difference between— like, here's why I love Groot. I look at him and he's always in a good— he's in the best mood. And I know he has challenges. He has a lot of challenges with the respiratory system.

I know.

Yeah. And I look at him, I'm like, God, man, despite all things, he's always got the sweetest smile on his face. And I love him a lot.

I know, but that's different.

If it was a gorilla or Groot, watch out. I don't know what to do.

Gorilla.

So it goes Groot, gorilla, humans.

Oh, um, Groot though is connected to Delta. That's the real reason. If you just saw a Groot on the street, you'd be like, oh my God, look at that cute stuffy.

Right?

It's my grandson. It's my grandson. It's her child.

Yeah. So that's obviously different.

Also, he's so cute, like Coco is.

I know, but let's say, okay, let's say you're driving and you're turning right on red. No one's there, right? And all of a sudden you, you squish over something and then you look and there's a Groot on the, on the ground that someone threw. Someone threw a Groot. Not, not Delta's Groot.

I mean, any Groot, you know, that's what they say, like when you have a kid, all children, you know.

Clearly not, because you're willing to kill a Human.

And a human adult— no, old adult.

An adult is someone's kid.

You're not anymore. They're— this is old enough that they're trying to die.

Whether your children are old, they don't—

they don't qualify if I'm dead.

Yeah. No, none of this is helpful. Okay, so someone throws a stuffy. Yeah, it gets caught, and it somehow— that stuffy has metal in it too, and it's like ruining the car, right? No, that sucks for the people driving.

No, but even though he's cute, but someone threw it, so now I'm mad at whoever Whoever chucked the— whoever treated Groot that way.

Okay, Groot hasn't met Gwyneth Paltrow.

And they punched up my car. They got a real problem on their hands now.

Exactly. Okay, I think if you— if this happened to you, you would be very upset that your car was hurt.

I hope they televise this court case.

I know.

I agree.

Your mom will be all over it.

She will be.

She really will be. It was wild to see. It was wild.

When you were telling the story of seeing the car, it made me think of yesterday, Aaron and I were recording Mom's car and we're driving around. And, um, again, there's so much going on when we do Mom's Car. Um, we're delivering food. In this case, we had 3 different orders. We have 2 guests in the back seat.

There's a lot.

I'm driving. There's cameras everywhere.

First episode.

Yeah, first episode. We have things we gotta say now. And, uh, I spot a guy who's opening his door of his truck while he's driving. Uh, and forget— did you, do you know how long we were with that guy? Like, had you clocked it as soon as I did? We were with that guy for like I didn't hear anything anyone said for like 8 minutes. All I was like, when's he gonna open his door again? We were behind this truck, Monica, and the guy was opening his door all the time while he was driving. I'm like, what's going on? Is he gonna barrel roll out the side? Finally I said something. I'm like, gang, we got a guy that's opened his door and everything. Then we pulled up next to him at the traffic light. And then I felt a little bad. It seems our theory, our current theory was his air conditioning wasn't working and his power windows were broken and it was so brutally hot yesterday, so he had to be fanning the door while he drove.

Yeah, and he had what seemed to be his wife or girlfriend too.

Looked like a girlfriend.

Yeah, um, girlfriend, definitely. Um, how embarrassing for him.

I know.

Yeah, we felt really bad. It's also my mom's birthday, on a positive note. Happy birthday, Laura!

Happy birthday! So many birthdays.

Yeah, it's heavy. It's a heavy heavy week. I was just saying it this morning.

Yeah, it kind of sucks.

We got Carly.

You say your birthday's bad, but I think my birthday's bad because everyone has it, and then like, not as special. It's not like you're like saying happy birthday to everyone.

I got Carly, Grandma Yolis, rest in peace, then you, then my mom, then Jess. Then there's like 8 birthdays that I know of in the 10-day stretch. It's impacted. The, the only other one is that's as impacted is I'd say Aaron's birthday. 5 people in that window of July 1st to July 8th.

July's Ryan Hansen.

I know. And you—

I'm forgetting, um, forgetting some, but there's a lot.

Aaron Tyrell's son shares a J2C.

Oh, looky here.

He actually, um, I saw him recently, uh, came over my house. He took care of the dogs for a couple days, and he said, uh, it was right before the birthday, and I was like, happy birthday. Uh, he goes, you think it would be cool if I got a tattoo?

What, how is he, 15 or 14?

He's 16.

16. What'd you say? No, tattoos are not good.

Technically, there's only 2 people in this club, but you do what you want.

Okay, I have a question I'll ask both of you, and then we need to do facts. How often are you changing out your towel after a shower? You know, you shower, use your towel. How often are you then putting that in the laundry and getting a new one?

Well, once a week. That doesn't happen because of me.

Okay. That's fair.

Once a week, Ruthie does a whole gathering of floor mats, you know, the whole Yeah. If it were just you, just me, it— I'm always— I always think it's still good.

You think it's clean. Because you're clean. You just cleaned yourself.

It's water. It's like you got that, the mold and mildew.

If you hang it in a place that dries quickly, I, I would definitely go 5 showers on a towel.

Okay, for like a week.

And then the bad news is, you know, we were just talking about this Yes, I don't shower a ton because I, I sauna and then I cold plunge and then I get in the hot tub and I'm like, what are we doing? I'm gonna go get more water on me, you know? And then I don't smell and I only wash my hair once a week because it's— I have such dry hair.

Yeah.

So because I would only wash it once every probably 5 or 6 showers, that might be 6 months worth.

Now I'm thinking I think mine is changed twice a week now that I think of it.

Okay, that's nice.

I mean, my showers are a little more frequent.

Yeah.

Than that.

I don't know.

Yeah, but they're like probably every other day. Um, sometimes it's every day when I'm showering.

Every day?

No.

And you know what's funny? I was thinking about it this morning, weirdly enough. I don't mind when I'm in the shower, but the thought of the shower I hate. So I'm like, fuck, I have so much to do. I don't want to go get wet and then put on new deodorant and then put my moisturizer on.

Yeah, everyone feels this way. Everyone. It's, it's a time suck.

But do you think everyone feels that way? I know a lot of people that love taking showers and baths and do it multiple times. Yeah, a couple times a day. Like, those people clearly love showers.

No, I often shower twice a day, and I do not like it. It is a huge pain. You're rushing, you have to get— because you're going to work and it's a huge— it's a mess. But you do it for the— you're not doing it for the enjoyment of the shower. The bath is different. I like a bath. I did 2 baths this weekend.

There you go.

At night.

Yeah.

As a post— as a relaxation. You put the bubbles and you put the powders in.

Candles.

And a candle. I do a candle and I— and the lights are dim and you listen to music.

Saxophone music.

Yeah. I love it. But that's not for cleanliness. I shower after that.

Okay.

I don't think I'm clean. I think I'm even more dirty because I'm in my stew, you know, and sweaty.

We can just back up for half a second and start with the fact that humans didn't shower for 300,000 years. And then we didn't even have indoor plumbing until the 1900s. So we're talking, we're looking at that people have been showering for like 120 years. So this notion that we have to shower every day is comical.

We don't have to brush our teeth either, but—

well, but we've added something that makes that necessary, which is we didn't have refined sugar. So now we have to brush our teeth or our teeth will fall out.

Well, the peoples in back in the George Washington days, they were getting dirtier.

They had— they lived in a dirtier world than us by far.

What I'm saying, they didn't brush their teeth and it was disgusting.

Yeah, I'm all about brushing your teeth. I'm just saying the reason we have to brush our teeth is because we now eat sugar. We were designed to not have to brush our teeth and we didn't brush our teeth for 300,000 years. But now we eat a ton of sugar, so now we have to. But nothing has changed in our life that would require us to all of a sudden have— need showers every single day. Our environment's only gotten cleaner and cleaner and cleaner. We don't interact with dirt. You know, we walk on cement to an indoor house with the carpets that you wipe your feet on. You know, you— we wear shoes and clothes. So it's like we've gotten in an increasingly cleaner world and we've showered more and more and more. So I'm just pointing out that for anyone who's like, oh gross, fine. But also, this is insane that we do what we do. It's unnecessary.

I've never smelled you.

Thank you.

Yeah, yeah.

If I smell even a hint of smell, I'm bolting right to the shower. You know, I don't want to fuck with that. And again, I've told this too, if I didn't have a bidet, I would shower a lot.

Well, that's—

yeah, that's why I clean my butthole with water every day. So I don't— again, my butthole is really clean.

And then I'm worried about adding soap. You don't want to add soap to that mix?

You know, then we'll get into the whole thing about soap. No, I don't think I need to add soap to the mix to get my butthole clean.

Okay. Yeah, well, great.

Yeah.

Finger?

Well, sure.

Yeah, that's what Mother Nature intended, right? It used to be in the old days, your bath was you jumped in a lake and then you rubbed your butthole with your finger underwater and you rubbed your balls and your penis And that was your fucking— that's how you kept yourself clean.

I'm glad I didn't live then.

Yeah, me too. I prefer to live now.

Um, all right, some facts for Gal Gadot. She said Gadot.

I think it's Gadot.

And I've been saying Gadot this whole time. Okay, how tall is Emma? You said— we said 5'10. You're like, I think she might be 6 feet. She's 6 feet 1 and a half inches. She's almost 6'2.

She was wearing heels and she was— we were looking eye to eye.

She is a tall one.

She is a tall gal. Tall gal. Good.

Ding, ding, ding. Um, is Ambien twice as powerful in women as men? Women process the drug much slower, leading to blood concentration levels that are up to 50% higher. Female bodies clear zolpidem, the active ingredient in Ambien, about 35% to 50% slower than male bodies. Higher levels of the medication can remain in a woman's bloodstream and the next morning cause next-day drowsiness and higher risk of morning accidents.

And trips to 7-Eleven.

Yeah.

Gotta be careful. Reminder of where Tom Cruise's cake is from. Doan's Bakery, D-O-A-N, in Woodland Hills, California. Holiday cake.

Speaking of, where was—

Persian. That word sounds Persian.

Might be.

You didn't mention your cake last night. It looked so good.

Thank you. It was from a few nights ago, actually. because I was celebrated a few times, which was very kind. But yes, there was a cake from this place called Chariot LA, and they, they took my astrology, they took my birthday, and my moon and sun and rising, and they created a one-of-one cake.

Mermaid.

And it was so good, and it looked like a mermaid cake, and it had a lot going on. And at first I truthfully was like, uh-oh, this is probably not going to taste very good. There's so much going on. Yeah. Vanilla rose chiffon, a yuzu curd, fresh plums. Drambuie dressing.

I was a little worried. That's looking just thief and aperitif.

Yeah. But it was so good. It was so good. Shockingly so. And, um, and, and moist. And I'm back I'm back to saying that.

Moist.

I'm done putting that on the shelf.

Okay.

Yeah.

And, um, highly recommend Cherry at LA if you want a yummy cake. And, and if you— especially if you have someone who likes astrology.

You don't get a moist cake too often.

You don't. It's hard to find.

They dry up on you.

Yeah, they really do.

If you want moisture, go with eggplant. It's a mush. A wet, wet mush.

There's too much.

Covered in a skin.

Okay. Is the I mean, what is the Golden Gate Bridge in Lisbon called? Um, it's called the 25 de Abril Bridge, which is April the 25th Bridge.

Okay.

I just did that.

Really nice.

Thank you.

April 25th.

I took a lot. I took a lot of Spanish, although this is probably Portuguese, but striking red suspension bridge across the Tagus River. Tagus. There it is.

There she is.

Oh, hello.

Okay, this— does America have a garlic Whopper? No. Nope. While countries like South Korea and international regions have featured dedicated garlic-infused Whoppers, and Israel obviously, according to Gal, the U.S. menu has only seen garlic flavors appear as temporary or regional items, such as a limited-time garlic aioli pairing or recent themed items like Grogu's garlic chicken fries rather than a standard Garlic Whopper. We can't get that here, sadly, but it's okay because we get the chicken sandwich instead.

We would get that anyway.

Yeah. Okay, what is 80,000 shekels in US dollars? $26,853.

Okay.

$26,853. Who won Miss Universe the year Gal was in it, which was 2004? She was right, Miss Australia. Jennifer Jennifer Hawkins.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah. How expensive is La Mer lip balm? $85.

Yeah, but best $85 she ever spent.

It really bought her a whole life, a whole career.

Yes.

Now—

Tens of millions of dollars. She was on the Forbes list several times as being—

Oh, we love that.

Yeah, number 3 most highest paid actor.

Now, this movie, The Runner, which isn't out yet, which is why Rob couldn't find the song, the Blondie song, because if you type it in, in, like, that doesn't come up. But I wonder if I say it, will you know it or no?

You'd probably have to do— I'd have to— you won't sing it, so I would have to—

Right, because I don't know them.

Okay, say the name.

Dreaming.

Yeah, see, I don't think I'm gonna know the title.

Dreaming, dreaming is free.

Aaron knows it. Is that the song?

That's not the one.

Oh. Um, Call Me. Do you want to sing Call Me?

Call me, royal love. Call me, call me.

Um, those are the only 2.

All right, I'll just quickly tell you the song. Probably a deep cut.

Won't be hard.

No, it's not at all. It's one of their biggest songs. What are their popular—

One Way or Another.

Rapture.

Yeah, I bet it's Rapture. That sounds right. Oh, maybe Heart of Glass. Oh no, this is it right here.

Is it Heart of Glass?

Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, this is a good one.

Yeah, what a great song to jog to.

Oh yeah.

Oh, great song.

1978 and it still holds up.

I'm gonna—

she's 80, I think.

She's still sexy.

Yeah, and still performing.

Yeah.

Who is it?

Debbie Harry? Oh, not falling asleep. I didn't name the person, but I did tell our guests today that you had recently gone to a concert with a legend and that they were asleep a considerable amount of the performance and that you thought maybe they passed.

It was scary.

Who was it? It was the scariest concert I've ever been to.

Oh no.

Yeah. Um, yeah, it was like, oh, oh, how old is he? I think he's 93.

Oh wow.

Well then, that—

So everyone was saying playing around me. I didn't look it up, but I just— it seemed that most people knew that the answer to that.

Yeah, well, Debbie Harry's original name is Angela Trimble.

What the hell? Yeah, well, I don't like any of the music now.

Yeah, Debbie Harry's a better name for Blondie. Okay, well, that sounds like that's all the facts. Yeah, got them all. Well, I looked up Krav Maga, but she did a good explaining it.

Okay.

So we don't need to do that.

Oh, all right.

Well, well, well.

Happy birthday, Laura. I love you guys.

Love you.

Bye.