Transcript of Jared Muros: How Exploring Everything Led To Finding Himself

At that time, that's when I was really so focused and locked in. One big thing, too, is finding a group of people that believe in your vision, who are very similar to me in that aspect, that they make videos, they understand I want to go do a video. With a certain group of people, they'd be like, Bro, that's embarrassing. Why are you going to get up and go talk to a stranger bar's outfit? But I just see it as, This is my job. Go talk to someone here like your outfit. If they don't want to do it, they don't want to do it. I move on to the next day. We want to extend a heartfelt thank you to our listeners. Because of your incredible support, we're out of time has reached number one on Apple's mental health podcast chart, number two on the health and fitness chart, and number 26 overall. We couldn't have done this without you.

Thank you for being part of this journey with us. Jared Mouros. Hi.

Did I say that right? You said it right, yeah. Sometimes people say Munoz, Muros, You got it right. First try.

Thanks for coming, man. Hey, thank you for having me. I really appreciate it.

You have a lovely home, by the way. Oh, thanks. Yeah. Thanks. I come in here and I'm like, This is what I see for myself. So I love envisioning being in it.

I think you can do better.

We'll see. Maybe this could be a stepping stone to the next one. Who knows?

Yes. Okay. How did growing up in Boyle Heights and Whittier influence your fashion?

I have a question for you. What do you think about my fashion?

Dude, I think you're dope as hell. I just think this is fire. It's awesome. Thank you. I mean, who wouldn't like that Russian winter hat?

It's lovely. It's cold outside today. That's right. I was having trouble coming up here, too. The National Guard was like, Where are you going? I was like, Oh, over here. And he was like, Go that way. I'm like, Oh, man, it's a lot going on. A lot of winds. It's got some good winds over here.

You look like a criminal, so you're lucky they let you here.

I look like a criminal. You're the third person to tell me that. Today? Not today. But overall, I was talking to my bro. He's like, If I owned a store and I was doing security, I'd watch you. I'm like, Bro, why? Is it the Is it the piercing?

Dude, you don't even have a face tattoo.

I know. That's why. I'm like, Why do people say these things?

Dylan, he might be the only guy you've gotten on here without face tattoos.

Hey, is that a win?

Dude, I don't know. I don't know if it's a win. I mean, it's a win for me. I'm 58. Oh, awesome.

Okay. I'm not 58.

Do you know who the first person I saw with a face tattoo was? Who? Mike Tyson. Oh, really? Yeah, he was the first one. He had that thing there and everybody flicked out about it. Now, every kid's got a face tattoo.

Yeah, a lot of people. I feel like his work, it just goes with the face structure. Sometimes I see someone, I'm like, Why?

Who had the best face tattoos here?

That's been in this room.

2k? 2k.

I'm not familiar with the tattoos.

Do you know 2K Baby?

I do know who he is, but I'm just not very familiar with his appearance, tattoos, this, that. I've seen the name pop up.

We're going to play basketball together. Oh, wow. He's taking me into some place where all the rappers play basketball. It's going to be a 58-year-old white guy.

I feel like you could wipe them down.

I'm going to kick their ass.

Oh, yeah. I can see that. It's going to be embarrassing. I can see. Okay, let's go back to the question about with your Boyle Heights area. I feel like it wasn't as much the cities that I grew up in, but when I grew up, when I was younger, my mom was working a lot. I was living with my grandma. That entails just watching cartoons, being on the computer, getting lost on the internet.

Tell me about your fit check.

Which one?

No.

On you?

No, on all of it. Tell me about how you got into that. Tell me about all of it. Give me the whole-Yeah.

Man, it goes back. I started in high school interviewing kids when I was a freshman, just with the phone, shitty little mic. When I first started, it made me I feel like some type of freedom, some type of joy, just asking kids stupid questions. I got to go around school. I remember one of my favorite videos that I did when I was in high school, I printed out a photo of the KFC Colonel Sanders. I was going around my school and I'm like, What president is this? I was just trying to like... That is so fun. Yeah, I was trying to get some good reactions from people and just have fun with my peers at school.

That was hysterical.

It was great. I have to find the video. It's like lost somewhere.

If When we went to one of those fine educational institutions, I'm talking the Ivy League.

Okay.

We did that, that would be hysterical.

Yeah, I feel like it's ChatGPT on the internet. Even back then, people were like, Oh, is this Abraham Lincoln? I'm like, Bro, are you kidding me? This guy makes chicken. But yeah, it started doing stuff like that. That's so good. It started doing stuff like that. Then I was always in the fashion, so I saw this trend going around. People would ask each other about their fits, this and that on TikTok, Instagram. I was like, Let me try it. I did a couple of videos like that, and one of them got a million views. I've never seen the number million everywhere, anywhere in my life. I was like, Oh, my God, this is crazy. Started doing more, start doing more, start doing more to where we are now.

That's so funny. All right. I've written down some really serious questions that I need you to answer, okay? Yeah, let's do it. When are chokers coming back?

When are chokers coming back? Yeah.

I love the chokers.

Why do you love the chokers?

When are they coming back?

I honestly don't know. I've never been in the chokers, but I feel like there are certain subcultures that still will rule by them till the end of time.

Good. Give me those.

Like, Goths, emos. I don't like the Goths.

Give me more.

Then what are you into? I'll tell you if they wear Chokers or not.

I like them.

It depends. What are they into for them to wear chokers? I don't see them coming back in my realm of life. I might wear maybe some tight necklaces, but this is the tightest schedule, man.

Oh, disheartening.

Yeah, I'm sorry.

I'm going to need a little good news, bro.

Okay. Maybe if you go to Hot Topic, go to Hot Topic, go to a mall that has those types of stores, just kick it out a little, go get yourself a pretzel and sit down at the bench, you might find somebody coming out with a choker.

Do I need mustard with the pretzel?

I like sweet pretzels. In my head, I It's like a cinnamon sugar pretzel.

That's dope. Because you're the fashion guy. I'm the rehab guy. If somebody comes to me, they don't have a problem anymore. I'm trying to give you the like, Dude, you're the king. You can make it happen. You're the guy who can bring that.

I don't realize that sometimes. When I do videos, people watch them for fashion inspiration and for this and that. I'm going out to have fun. Now that you say that, I'm like, Oh, yeah, if I go and get a hot girl with a dog collar and it gets a million views, people are going to be like, Oh, our dog collar is back. Should I wear a dog collar?

See what I'm saying? Yeah. But wait, there's more.

Okay, there's more.

Would you be willing to talk a bit about your own Birkenstocks?

In Birkenstocks? Yes.

I hate those.

Why do you hate them?

Because they are the most unsexy things on the face of the earth. What if they were worse than those knickers? See, you're too young to know about knickers. No. Okay, girls, there was a whole thing all through my high school with girls with knickers. They were disgusting. What is that? It's like pants that go up to your mid-cap.

Like Capri's, but just like upper, higher?

Okay, well, I don't know what Capri's are.

I think maybe that's my generation's word for knickers. Okay. What if they're comfortable? What if somebody's wearing them for comfort and not for fashion?

I don't care.

Oh.

I mean, not in the slightest.

I wouldn't make fun of somebody unless they come at me first and I'm like- Would you be willing to? I'd be willing to. They said something to me. No, not if I do.

Okay.

No, just like- I might think it. I'd be like, Oh, Birkenstocks. But I'm not going to go and make it a public statement.

Okay, well, we're going to talk until you do because here's the thing. Because I'll tell you why. Okay. You're going to do the thing with the choker, right? Okay. You said you would.

Okay, I would.

I've been giving you money for the dog collar.

Okay. We'll see after. If you guys see a video of somebody with a dog collar that's going up, it It's because of this moment right here.

It's because of you. You're the king. Just like you're willing to do the dog collar, then this is the exact opposite. See, I love the dog collars and you're doing me a solid, but I hate the Birkenstocks, so do me a solid.

For some reason, Crocs has me blocked on Instagram, and I think it's because I might have said something one time that I don't recall this or that. So the same might happen with Birkenstocks.

Yeah. Okay, so that's a yes. Maybe. All right. Take the maybe. Can you make certain that that Bustier thing stays around? Oh. The new style, I love that thing.

Okay. If I find somebody on the street wearing it, I'll do a video.

Can you? Can you make certain that the Bustier thing sticks it down a little bit?

How about you send me a list of like, yes, yes, yes, no, no, no, and I'll see what resonates with me and I can make it happen.

Okay, that's good. But we're still going to go through a little bit.

Okay, we will. Okay, cool.

The Bustier thing with the belly ring and the little thing.

You have It's such a specific... It's like creating a person that I see in your mind right now. I will try to find it.

You'll do a bunch of ink, though, too, right? Ink. A bunch of ink all over them. I like the ink.

How tall? I don't care. Shoe size? Don't care. Okay. Hair?

Not important.

Okay. Three things. See? I'm lost. Bussier, ink, belly button. I love this. I love the vision. I see it through.

It's wonderful. Dude, I want one of those Russian hats.

I can get you one. You can have this one after if you want it.

Don't tease me. I'm serious. Swear to God. I swear to God.

I can go get another one.

I love you. I'm not even sorry. I'm not even a little bit. What are the best and worst fashion trends right now?

Oh, man. Oh, man. I was waiting for this, so I'm not going to lie. Things I like, personally, I don't know if this is the consensus of the entire United States and the world, I like big pants. You see my pants that I walked in with? Love them. You don't even see the shoes. They're huge. I love letting them drag. I love letting them rip. It adds a character. It adds a slack. I love that. Fashion trends, I love.

Now, is that okay for a 58-year-old, or would I just look stupid?

I think you could wear it. I think you can wear anything as long as you feel comfortable. At any age, I'm going to be 60 wearing probably this exact thing. Might just be not this exact one, but a new one. Then something that I I dislike a little in fashion. I don't want to say anything specific. I mean, there's certain things that I'm like, eh, about.

Wait, you can hurt people's feelings. Yeah. Can't hurt the clothes feelings. Yeah. Tell me what you don't like.

Okay. I don't like skinny jeans. Sometimes if I wear a pair of pants that's too skinny, I need my balls to breathe. They can't breathe. It gets sweaty. I'm walking out. My thighs are chafing. I don't like that.

Bro, wear all my skinny jeans, please.

I mean, maybe it works for Maybe you get them tailored to be bigger in a certain area that you might need.

I just let the crotch out, and I'm cool.

Yeah, see- Go on. I can't do that.

What motivated you to go from modeling to casting for major brands like Adidas and Nike?

Since I was young, I've just always been trying to find the thing that works for me. A lot of people, like musicians, they might be like, I was 14, I knew I was going to make music. I knew I was going to do this and that. I was lost up until a couple of years ago. I'm trying everything. I'm looking online, how to make a million dollars, how to be famous, how to do this, how to do that. I'm just watching as much content as I can consume where I'm like, You know what? I want to be a model. I start learning how to model. I watch videos. I ask people that I know. I get into that world and I'm like, Okay, is this something that I really want to do? I want to learn how to act. I went to a community college. I took the acting class and I was like, Okay, this is what this I did journalism in community college. I did fashion pattern making. It was everywhere. I started casting and I just had my hand in 20 different buckets until I realized this is who I am, this is what I'm good at, this is what my I guess he is going to be in the world.

How old are you?

24.

Do you know what I love about that? What? Seriously? My son's like that, too. He loves to learn something, and he goes on YouTube, and he learns it all. He becomes an expert on anything he wants to know. He went ahead and did a Rubik's Cube. He just picked one up. A month later, he's doing it in 17 seconds. Yeah. Whatever, 17, 27, whatever. I don't even remember. The reason I like it so much is because it's really, if you think about it, making college obsolete.

Youtube is a university. As I say that, I dropped out of college. When I was no longer in college, I'm like, Okay, what am I going to do? In college, you have to go learn one thing. This is your class. Go learn math that I'm never going to use. Go learn science that I'm never going to use. But I want to learn how to be a better interviewer, how to edit videos. I'm just going to sit down.

Be financially literate.

Exactly. You can watch YouTube videos on any topic that you want to know. If you're not going to get that education in school. Yeah, and you're going to go pay $30,000 a year for what?

That is the most important thing you can learn is financial literacy.

I've been learning that as a recently. My mom is a banker and she's like, Hey, do you know what you're doing with your money? You're making money. Where is it going? You have to put this and this and this. Llc, stocks, everywhere. Just spread it out. Listen to your mother. Oh, I am. As a recently, I've been learning my mom has always been right.

What does she do at the bank?

She helps...

What's her position?

I don't know the exact name, but when people have their parents, unfortunately, pass away, she helps with the will money transfer. Listen to me.

Your mother has forgotten more than you will ever know about this.

She has what?

She will have forgotten more. Yes. It means she knows so much about this. Yes. That even if you studied this for weeks, she would have forgotten more shit than you learned. Yes. That house, okay, that's her job. She's got probably the toughest job at the bank. Yeah. Okay? She looks at what works and what doesn't. Okay? Yeah, you got to listen to your mother.

Oh, yeah, I do.

Call your mother.

I am. I can't wait to be a parent and just really see the things I did to my mom. Sometimes she's like, You didn't listen to me. Why? Now I'm like, Oh, I should have listened. I'm going to be a parent one day and I'm going to tell my kid, Why didn't you listen to me? I told How do you do this and that? I can see that's how you are right now talking about it.

My kids are so good that I should really have a DNA test taken to see if they're mine.

Why? Because you feel like you're not as good or what?

Well, I know my 11-year-old and my 15-year-old are both smarter than me by a lot. If they ask me to help them with their homework, I look at it. In third grade, my kid looked at me and said, Hey, can you help me with this? I looked at it for the life of me. He's like, Babe, I don't know any of this stuff. Not any of it.

Yeah, my little brother, he's in high school, and he was asking me something about a math question. I'm like, I don't know what any of this is. I hate math. Same thing. I feel like I was just in high school not too long ago.

Yeah. Let's talk about that. Let's talk about it. How many people died of faith in your high school? This is five, six years ago. That's before it was even a real Yes.

I knew of one person who was a friend of mine that passed away, but he was in the same city we would hang out, but he was just in a different high school than me.

Okay. How old was he when he died?

Eighteen, 19. I don't know.

Did you know his parents?

I would talk to his mom, see her, but I didn't know them personally.

Have you ever run into them or heard anything about it after they buried their kid?

No, I was at the funeral, but since then, I left the city I grew up in. Right.

Yeah, that family is finished. That family is completely finished.

Yeah, I know. I can see. I saw it in person, and it's just... It's scary. It's a scary world we live in now, really diving deep into it. Knowing friends that still do drugs, sometimes knowing that it's in there, and I'm like, Why?

There's a million reasons why. But you don't have to get into that. Were you doing drugs in high school?

Not in high school. In high school, I was a pretty good student. I was class president every year. I was yearbook editor. I was in like, Hella clubs, President of a lot of clubs and stuff. Got out of high school, made new friends, and then dabbled in some things here and there. Tell me about it. I have friends that I would hang out with at that time, too. They're like, Oh, my God, how are you doing How are you doing this? How are you doing this? I'm like, by stopping living another life that I was living and pushing through and being healthy, going to the gym, staying sober, listening to my body, what my body needs. But it has to love. Yeah. I'll get into that. I came out of high school and I would never drink, smoke, nothing in high school. I was just a normal kid, going to school, getting good grades, stopping. Then I graduated high school, and that's when COVID was really deep. It's really there's nothing to do. I would just hang out with my friends. We'd play Switch, we'd play video games, and they were heavy into pills, drinking, smoking, this and that.

I started picking up smoking for a couple of years, trying some of the stuff. Smoking what?

Wheat. Okay.

Trying some of the stuff that they were trying. Then it got to a point where I realized I'm waking up, I'm smoking every day, maybe taking a shot or two, and I'm like, Bro, this is not what I want to be doing. I had friends that I met over the internet that I grew up with that started to surpass me in certain creative fields that I was still making YouTube videos, posting TikToks, posting Instagram videos during this time. It just made me feel like I wasn't fully myself on camera. I want to be fully in control when I'm interviewing someone, when I'm talking to somebody and just knowing that I'm in my mode. I wouldn't feel in my mode if I would take a drink and just be... I remember I would go out to do interviews, and I'd be like, I have to be drunk to interview. Then I realized, Wait, no, I don't. I interview way better when I'm sober and when I know what's going on. So slowly, slowly, slowly, I started getting sober, and that's when I looked into I looked into what I really want to do with my content.

When I was sober, I want to say six months, going to the gym every day, meditating, really finding what was going on, is when everything changed for me. From one month to the next, it's like I had maybe 2,000 followers posting one to two videos a day, getting a couple of hundred views. To the next month, I grew 100,000 followers.

I really- Wait, you did 100,000 followers? You got 100,000 followers in a month?

Yeah, it was in 2023. Doing the- The interviews, yeah. At that time, that's when I was really so focused and locked in. I'm like, I'm going to post three to four interviews a day with people I find on the street. I'd wake up and I'd just tell my friend, bro, I'm like, Yo, we're going to go to the beach and interview people. We're going to Beverly Hills today. We're going to downtown. A big thing, too, is finding a group of people that believe in your vision. Because I had friends sometimes, I'm like, Yo, let's go film. Let's do this. Let's make some content. They're like, Again, whatever, this and that. But I found a good group of people who were very similar to me in that aspect that they make videos. They understand, let's say I'm at a restaurant, I see somebody with a cool face at the next table and I'm like, Yo, I want to go do a video. With a certain group of people, they'd be Bro, that's embarrassing. Why are you going to get up and go talk to a stranger about his outfit? But I just see it as, This is my job.

Go talk to someone here. I like your outfit. If they don't want to do it, they don't want to do it. I move on to the next day.

We had a guy here that did that, didn't we? He'd go and he'd do skits on the street. Didn't we, Dylan?

Yeah, Jero.

Houston, maybe his name goes. Jero Houston.

He's the guy with the Ray Bans that goes up the limit. Yes. Oh, my God. I love his video. I saw he did one with He was like, Hey, yo, DDG, DDG. And it was, what's his face? The food reviewer guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just think his videos are funny. He love that.

You just got kid happy. Yeah. I haven't been kid happy since I was a kid. It's like you just did like that.

I feel like those are some videos that come on my timeline that I never talk to somebody about. I don't got friends are like, Hey, you've seen this new video? So you guys sing? I'm like, Oh, my God, I've seen those before. That's so cool. Yeah. I still have that kid-like energy.

Hey, will you do me a favor before we leave? Yeah. Will you follow Dylan? Cool.

Let's just do it.

That's right. He loves that. He loves it when people follow him. Well, he's 22. I'm 58. He was like, Oh, my God, this person's following you. I'm like, Who's that person?

I used to do that a lot, too. There's still some that I get gitty. I'm like, Oh, my God. You know what?

You know what's funny, though? Here's what's cool. Everybody who I've had here has been fantastic. Okay, the one-a-a. But aside from that... No.

Is the video up?

No.

I think you bring good energy. You're easy to talk to.

Yeah, but this one was just...

I love having easy conversations like this.

This one? Yeah. Dude, do you like having a conversation with me because I lost a quarter century to drug addiction.

I was reading about you, so I saw that. Reading about me? Yes. I got to know where I'm coming. I saw an article that talked about how You were an addict for so long. You opened a rehabilitation center in Malibu. I did my research. I know what it is. I feel that way, too, as well, but not as heavy as how your life went down as well. But I went three to four years every day smoking, drinking, trying different things that I look back and I'm like, Where did those years go? I feel from 18 to 23, I just wasn't here. Dude, you're a baby. No, I know. 24 years old. I know. That's why.

Anything you want.

That's why.

You donk it off no time at all.

Yeah. In the long run, I know it's no time, but I'm just glad I was able to find it earlier. And hopefully somebody watching is like, I'm 18, I'm 17, I'm doing this. Yada, yada, yada. So yeah, in that way.

Those are fat glasses. What glasses are those?

My girlfriend made them. She makes glasses and has a low brand.

Oh, that's gorgeous. What's the brand name?

444 Your Eyes.

444 Your Eyes? The number 4?

Yeah, the number 4, 444 three times, and then Y-O-U-R-E-Y-E-S, Four Y-E-R-E. That's nice. Yeah, that's nice. People always think they're Chromehearts.

They looked like Chromehearts.

I was at the coffee shop the other day, and some dude's like, I love your Chromehearts shades. I have shades, I have the same ones. I'm like, You have the same ones? He's like, Bro, yeah.

They're nicer than Chrome hearts. I used to have Chromehearts, that's how I think.

They're like, Yeah, I'm not a fan of Chrome hearts.

I gave it all away. Yeah, me neither.

I didn't even see You want to look hard because this is the bad boy, and I'm not a bad boy.

If somebody gave me a tattoo, I'd cry a little bit.

Do you have any tattoos?

No. No? I'm scared.

I was When I got a back tattoo, I was crying. If you ask my tattoo artist, he's going to be like, Jared was a little bit.

Right. Crying. But you don't bring girls with you to do that? No. No way. You won't even bring the boys.

You go, Oh, Oh, yes. Even he was like, Yo, can you stop? He's like, I'm not going to stop. We've taken 15 breaks within the past 10 minutes. I'm going to finish. I was like, Okay. Then he put my head down. He just started tattooing. I'm like, Okay.

Dude, if I was going to get a tattoo, I would call somebody to knock me out. Yes. Like, literally. Should have done that. Like I was having surgery.

I should have done that.

I'd be like, No, I don't do the pain thing.

Yeah, no, I can't either.

Bummed on the pain thing.

Man.

What's on your mind, man?

It's on my mind? Yeah.

Oh, let's do this. Yes. Let's do our new segment.

Oh, what's the new segment?

The new segment is...

What do you call it? Soapbox.

Okay, we call it the soapbox. We're going to call it something totally different. Okay. Okay, later on, because I hate that name. But you sit there and you can vent for as long as you need to, a minute or two, whatever. 30 seconds. I don't care about anything that is currently pissing you off or annoying you.

See, you're older. I'm going to say this, you're going to be like, Dude, you have so much time. I get it, but I've been working so much towards a lot of new aspirations, new things that I want to do in life, and I feel like I need so much more time in the day. I'll wake up, get to work, go to sleep, going to work. Then I'm like, Dude, where's the time going? I'm not done with this thing. I'm not done with this thing. I'm not done with this thing. It's just like, a million things on my plate. I think the thing with me is I don't know how to situate my time correctly and schedule. Then I'm on one project, then I'm like, Okay, I'm tired of this. Let me hop on to the next project I'm doing. Let me hop on to the next project I'm doing. Then it's the end of the day, and I'm like, Oh, I still didn't finish the project, then I'll wake up the next day and keep it going. I wish I had more time or learn how to scheduleate my time better. It's not a word, but I know that.

Schedulate is awesome. It's now a word. Yes.

Do you have any advice for me?

I do. Yes. That's called time management. Okay. Along with financial literacy, it's probably those are the two things that are the most important.

How did you learn time management in your best way?

Man, I think what I did was in college, when I was at UCLA, I went ahead and I was broke. I was so poor, I just flat broke, like nothing. I listened to Anthony Roberts. I bought his 30-day program, and I think that's how I learned time management. If it wasn't that, it was something he recommended that I read, and I read that and got time management. But those self-help books, when I was... Like now, they wouldn't land.

Why?

Because I've reached a point in my life where I've already done all those things things, and they're already habituated in the way I live my life.

So they wouldn't land with you, but with somebody new coming to them, they would land?

For you? Yes. It'd be the greatest thing in the world for you.

Someone my age, someone my realm.

No, I'm talking about just for you. For you, and well, really anybody starting out that doesn't have a clear direction and has a failure to launch. A failure to launch would be a kid who's 40, still living in his mother's basement, playing video games and screaming, Hey, mom, can you make me a sandwich?

That is so good.

That's a failure to launch. Time management is important. The way I would do it is I would wake up and do your morning routine and then just move your body, the meditation, whatever it is that you have in the morning. Then I'd wake up, shower, and and start my day. It sounds to me like you've got three or four different things going on. What you do is you have blocks of time and you go, Okay, from 10: 00 to 1: 00, I'm interviewing people. Then I'm going to go grab a bite to eat, I'm going to come back. Then from 3: 00 to 5: 00, I'm cutting this up. Then from 6: 00 to 7: 00, I'm posting and doing all my stuff and asking my friends to post and all that nonsense. Whatever this is, you block in the time for it and you add 20 minutes for any one of these major things that you're doing. That way, you don't put pressure on yourself. Then you make a list. You put it in your calendar, right? Then you know what you do. What do I do? Finish something.

What do I do?

You cross it off the list.

Oh, yeah. It's my favorite thing to do, ever. I love coming talking to people who are very experienced, especially with human interactions like yourself. I know you've probably come across thousands of people opening up your spot out here in Malibu because I feel like I'm such a baby still when it just comes to this entire new life and maneuvering and creativity and money and friends and family. Because my family all grew up in the middle of nowhere in Mexico on a little tiny brick house. Coming here, that's why I like to ask things like that. I know that you've seen people who have had everything go down, come back up, go back down, come back up to you. I like taking other people's life experiences and see how I can use it, how other people can use it, and just help me and my friends, my buddies, my family, my little brother, my mom, my dad, in a way like that.

Do you want children?

I do, but not yet. I'm still a child, but I know people my age that have children. Why am I not ready? Why?

Because you're a kid. Yeah. Okay. You're not fully established. You want to make certain that you have your ducks in a row. Yeah, you have a kid now. It's never going to be... People think kids cost you money, they make you money. Mm-hmm. Okay, trust me on this one. You are going to have children at some point. When you talked about the brick house, right? I'm thinking, Well, at least it's not straw or wood. Yeah. Because I used to tell my kids the story before they went to bed about the three little pigs. But I put a little twist on it. Do you want to hear it?

Yeah.

So you can tell your kid.

I'm ready, yes.

Okay. Daddy, will you tell me the story in a dig, Three Little Pigs? Horse, Baby. Once upon a time, there were three little pigs. There was the baby brother pig, the middle pig, and the older pig, the oldest pig. One day, open the door or I'm going to huff and puff and blow your house down. This little piggy was afraid because that was the big bad wolf.

He goes, Wait one minute.

Then he runs out the back door of the house. Just as he runs out the black door, the wolf huffs and puffs and blows the house down. But he runs next door to the middle brother's house. The middle brother's house made out of wood. He goes, I'm so scared. He goes, Don't worry, you're here. You're here. Don't worry about it. This is the big bad wolf. Open the door. I'm going to huff and I'm going to puff and I'm going to blow your house down.

Just wait one minute.

They run out the back door to the big brother's house. Just as they do that, the wolf huffs and puffs, blows the house to smither reams. But they go next door to their big brother's house, and their big brother has this big, huge, 12,000-square-foot, Rick, gorgeous Georgian colonial. It's breathtaking. They go next door and they're, and they don't see their older brother, and the door knocks, and it's the big bad wolf. The older brother comes down in his smoking robe and he's smoking a cigar.

Does he have that watch on, too? He's got the watch. Oh, okay.

He looks at me and his younger brother is like, Don't answer the door. It's a bit bad wolf. So he's like, Yeah, whatever. He walks over and he slides that thing over with the little thing so he can see who's there. He goes, Open this door or I'm going to huff and puff and your house down. The pig looks at him, blows smoke through the thing, and he goes, Do what you want. He closes the door, and the wolf is out of his mind, and he's huffing, and he's puffing, and he's losing his mind. But what the big brother did was when he closed it, he looks at his two little brothers, and he grabs a baseball bat, and he says, I'll be right back. Don't open the door. He goes around the property, and as This guy's puffing and puffing, he goes around and he comes up behind him and he just beats the out of this guy.

Just kicks his...

Grabs him by his hair and tosses him in the garbage. And then what? When he looks at him and he says, Don't come back here again. And that's the story of the three little pigs.

I hear the story. You're a great storyteller. What was that supposed to teach me about the big brother and the younger brothers? What? What would I take away from that story about the big brother helping out his younger brother's beating the shit out of a big bad wolf?

Nothing. I just didn't remember the story. I had to tell my kids something.

I feel like my dad was telling me a bedtime story. That's right. That's what I was doing. You're a great story. I feel like you should be an actor. When you went, It's the big bad wolf. I envisioned the cop in a movie just knocking on the door. Get out of here.

Was he in a wolf costume?

No, he wasn't. I imagine you with the hat and the little… It doesn't care. You How do you feel?

It doesn't go. Hey, how do you think I would do with modeling in fashion?

I think you would do great. You're great at talking. You got a nice little spiffy shirt on.

Nobody wants to hear a model talk. That's the whole idea. The models don't know how to talk, so they keep their mouth shut and they do it like this.

I just saw Zulander the other day, and I just... Have you ever seen the movie? Never. It's like making fun of the fashion industry and the over-exagger. I forgot the main actor's name is Ben Stiller. They always have him making this face. He's like, Look looking at the camera. But I feel like I'm more so I love going out talking to people, doing interviews. I think you would kill that. Go out on the block with a mic, you all take the cameras, speak to people. You'd be great. Dude, the only-I could see you in a Georgia in a Georgio-Armaneat.

In a Georgio-Armaneat? Yeah. Don't they usually have younger, cool-looking people?

Maybe it's more of a musk scent on their new cologne. You're there in the water.

Dude, I could model the dad jeans and have them up to here, right? And have the flood thing going on. I think that would be badass. Yeah.

I want to style you.

Can we bring that back? Oh, dude, you feel like you could. You should come back anytime you want and style me up.

With the vision that you have for this, I think you could do it. Okay. Yeah. Okay.

Well, if I ever lose all my money, I'll do that. Okay.

You don't got to do it for the money. You got to do it for the love of it.

Oh, no, I wouldn't want that.

Okay. Do you What do you do for the love of it or for the money? Like podcasting, this, that?

I do the podcasting because all the kids are dying of pain, and that's why I grabbed a lot of kids in the underground rap scene. It was hurting them the most. I wanted to stop that right away. They don't want to hear from me, but when they hear from Famous Dex or Little Zen or Warhol or somebody like that, they're like, Yeah, this is stupid. That was just an idea I had. This isn't monetized. We don't have any sponsors or any nonsense like that. We only have 20,000 people an episode listening to this now, but we've been open for five months plus.

I like how you say only because I know you have the vision to millions.

Dude, I'm so pissed off. Why? I know I'm nobody, but I do this and I'm pissed. I'm like, Why don't I have a million people listening to this?

The thing is, it's great content. It just takes time. When I was making-I want it now. I was making videos at one point, and I'm like, This is so good. Why is nobody watching? Then you just keep making them, and then one day they come. I'm like, You know this? You know two years down the line, you're going to be big dog up on there. Hey, I'm trying to get on Richard's podcast.

No, I'm trying to. But you want to hear it funny? Because about three weeks ago, I was walking on Main Street, and three kids with facial tattoos and all the ice and all the ink and the baggy and everything, they recognized me, and they took selfies with me.

That's awesome. Is that the demographic you're trying to reach?

I'm trying to reach any kid. I'm trying to reach all the kids because the kids are the ones dying. Because here's the thing, everybody had a right to experiment with drugs and alcohol when I was a kid. You guys don't have that anymore because we're out of time. We are out of time. You do one bump of something and you're dead. 70% of these things have it, and 42% of them have lethal doses. Yeah.

That's a big reason why I thought, I need to become sober. I need to tell my friends or get away from it. Tell my friends, try to help them. You know, a lot of times people don't listen and just move on because you can't integrate into somebody's brain. But I know I have friends that I used to hang out with. Let's say 2019, we were doing this and that. They're going to watch this and personally be like, Okay, this might be another wake-up sign. I'm watching Jared. He's done so much in his life while I've still been here that hopefully it reaches them at some point, some way.

That is so nice. I wish I would have heard it because the only thing I was thinking about was platform shoes. Do we have platform shoes now? Oh, those are really sick.

Wait, what do you think I was going to do? You're like...

No, no, those are sick. Yeah, New Rock. Oh, God.

That's what people wear. Is it really? Yes.

Oh, God. See, I am a fashionista.

Yeah. Yeah, if you go through my pages, a lot of girls wearing this, emo's wearing it, regular people wearing it, and they love the platforms. They're coming back. They're in.

They're in. Yeah, they're in. Do they wear the platforms, too?

Everybody, you can wear the platforms. Chicks can wear the platforms. He can wear the platforms.

I'd be so handsome at 6'6. 6'5. Okay, 6'4. I'll take 6'4.

I'll take 6'1 at that point then.

Okay, I'll take 6'1.

Yeah.

I really want to be a little taller than you. I'll be 6'2. You can be 6'1.

Are we not the It's the same, right?

Sure. All right, bro. Listen, thank you so much for coming today. Thank you. I so appreciate. This has been so fun. Thank you for being a great sport as well. You got Anything you want to plug, tell people where you're going to be, anything?

I'm going to be in Los Angeles, born and raised out here. I love this city. I love the people of this city. Working on a lot of new series, like I said, and then coming out on my YouTube, Instagram, TikTok platform. But I didn't come here to plug anything. I just came here to have a good conversation and see what's going on.

And your soul is completely good. The fact that guys come here, I love the younger generation who has this social responsibility and wants to come on and talk about something so serious.

Yeah, and you have a more serious podcast. I've hopped on somewhere, we're playing games, and they're asking me silly little questions, but Coming on, being able to talk about something real that's going on, and hopefully someone gets inspired to better themselves is really what it's about nowadays. It is.

Where can people reach you? What are the handles you've got?

Jared Muros on Everything I think, J-R-E-D, M-U-R-O-S. Post fashion content. I post interviews with strangers every single day, and talk to a lot of different personalities. That's really it.

That's who I am. I really enjoyed it. Thank you. I really do.

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