Transcript of USAID Programs Halted, Netanyahu in Washington, Rubio Visits Panama, Cannabis Safety

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It's hard to say this morning whether the country's main vehicle for delivering foreign aid still exists.

What we do know is that nearly all the programs funded by the United States Agency for International Development, USAID, have been halted. President Trump seeks to remake the federal government and push the limits of executive power. In this case, the administration appears to be targeting an agency that was created by law, by an act of Congress. Right now, its website is down. Hundreds of employees and contractors have been let go in the past week. We have reports that Trump is considering trying to fold the agency into the State Department.

White House correspondent, Franco Ordonias, has been following all this, and he's with us now to tell us what he knows. Good morning, Franco. Good morning, Michelle. The President said something to reporters about this last night. What did he have to say?

When he got back to the airport in Washington, Trump really tore into the agency, basically charging that it was poorly run.

It's been run by a bunch of radical lunatics, and we're getting them out. Usaid, run by radical lunatics, and we're getting them out, and then we'll make it decision. Did he give any evidence that this agency, as he said, is run by radical lunatics?

No, he did not. He and his team do want greater control over the department or with the work that they do. They want greater control over the spending, and they feel that too much money is going to causes that are not in US interests. Now, lawmakers are concerned. Democrats have actually warned that Trump cannot just shut down USAID on its own without going through Congress.

A few hours after Trump spoke, Elon Musk, the tech mogul who is running this Department of Government Efficiency, spoke on X, which he owns, about his plans.

Yeah, he definitely has big intentions here. He says Doge is in the process of specifically shutting down USAID, and he emphasizes that he could not do that without the support of the President. He actually said he went over it with Trump a few times. He asked him, was he sure? I mentioned earlier that Congress was concerned about all this. Musk didn't mention any statute or authority that would allow the President to basically skip Congress and shut down the agency unilaterally. That said, Trump does seem to be standing behind Musk, saying that he is doing a great job while even acknowledging that they might not agree all the time that he's behind him.

Are there concerns that this new entity that this administration created, Doge, is exceeding its authority?

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, DOGE, of course, is this department that's tasked with leading substantial cost-cutting. It's not just about shutting down the department. Over the weekend, there were reports of two security officials at USAID who were put on administrative leave for refusing DOGE access to certain systems. Democrats have accused DOGE of inappropriately accessing classified materials, which the lawmakers are saying they're going to investigate. I will note that their spokesman, DOGE Spokesman Katie Miller said no classified material was accessed without clearances.

And does this tie in with other changes happening under this administration, or if so, how?

Michelle, it caps off like such a week of chaos. Usaid was not the only website taken down. Some other websites were down temporarily. There is just so much fear and uncertainty across the federal workforce, and it really does look like that's all by design.

That is White House correspondent, Franco Ordonias. Franco, thank you. Thank you, Michelle. The United States has provoked multiple confrontations now with its North American neighbors and allies. President Trump announced 25% sent tariffs on goods from Canada and Mexico, launching a trade war. The top US diplomat has followed up on the President's demand to take over the Panama Canal. Panama has controlled the US-built Canal for decades. The President began talking of retaking it as part of a new expansionist agenda, which appeared after his election. Panama's President says this is not up for discussion, but Secretary of State Marco Rubio spent yesterday discussing it.

He was in Panama, and our colleague, Ari Shapiro, is in Panama City. Ari, good morning. Hey, Steve. Thanks joining us. What did the Secretary do yesterday?

The biggest event on his schedule was this meeting with the President of Panama, where apparently Rubio delivered an ultimatum. I say apparently because Rubio actually did not make any public comments about the canal yesterday. But according to a State Corp and spokesperson, Rubio delivered the message that President Trump has made a preliminary determination that China has too much influence over the Canal. He says that violates international treaties. And unless there are immediate changes, the US will do what it has to to protect its rights. Trump added this yesterday.

We're going to take it back or something very powerful is going to happen.

By the way, Steve, quick fact check on Trump's claims of Chinese influence. While a company based in Hong Kong does operate ports at either end of the canal, Panama runs the canal itself, not China, and there is no Chinese military presence, as Trump has falsely claimed on social media.

I guess I should also note here, the United States, at least the President, is not taking the view of, We have these concerns, solve them or we act. He's saying, We're going to take it back. So how are Panama's leaders reacting?

After the meeting yesterday, President Jose Raul Mulino said, Panama's sovereignty is not in question. And then he gave what you could interpret as a dig at the United States.

He's saying, I invited the State Department to promote investment in this country so they can't complain later that investments are coming from other countries.

That quote doesn't mention China by name, but you can read between the lines there.

What are you hearing from the Panamanian people?

It's this wave of nationalism, flags flying everywhere, and protests in the streets. I attended a couple of marches that shut down main streets here in Panama City. One was organized by the Teachers Union, where I met a woman named Mylene Shakespeare, and I asked what she wants Americans to know. Here's what she said.

. Primero.

She says, We are taking to the streets to defend our country. The Panama Canal is for Panamanians. Then you hear her excite this rhyming slogan people had been chanting in the march, Ni gringo, ni gringero, Panama Primero. Basically, no Americans, Panama first. So big picture here, the US is not backing down from Trump's threats. Panama is not caving, and the stakes are huge. 40% of all US container traffic goes through the Panama Canal. So it's pretty remarkable for these two countries to be in such a standoff, given how close the US and Panama have been for decades.

It would seem that Panama might be enough for a foreign trip, but where else is Rubio going?

On to El Salvador, Guatemala, Costa Rica, and the Dominican Republic, where he plans to talk about migration and drug trafficking. He's the first Secretary of State in more than a century to begin his tenure by a visit with Latin America. Also, he's the first Hispanic Secretary of State. The State Department says this underscores Trump's message that it's a 21st century of American greatness and counter entering China.

And Pierre Zahri Shapiro will be hosting All Things Consider from the Edge of the Panama Canal later today. He's in Panama City. Thanks, Ari.

Thanks, Steve.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is in Washington, DC, today.

He's here at the invitation of the President, and tomorrow becomes the first foreign leader to meet with Trump in his second term. Here's Netanyahu as he left for trip.

I think it's a testimony to the strength of the Israeli-American Alliance. It's also a testimony to the strength of our personal friendship.

They certainly have things to discuss. A ceasefire in Gaza between Israel and Hamas is holding in its third week as talks about the next phase of the deal are scheduled to begin today.

To talk more about all of this, we're joined by NPR's Kat Lonsdorff in Tel Aviv. Kat, good morning.

Good morning, Michelle.

Tell us what we know about Netanyahu's visit to the White House. What can we expect?

Yeah, Trump and Netanyahu have a lot to discuss, some of which is left over from Trump's first term, things like the Abraham Accords and the normalization of relations with Saudi Arabia. Also, how to deal with Iran, that's Israel's big enemy, but also a country that Trump has focused on a lot, too. But more immediately, there's Gaza. Just in the last week or so, Trump has been adamant about the very controversial idea of relocating Palestinians in Gaza out to neighboring Egypt or Jordan, he says, in order to allow for building. Both Egypt and Jordan have rejected that idea. Palestinians in Gaza also don't want that. And then there's the ceasefire deal, which is now in the middle of the first six-week phase, but talks of the next phase are supposed to start today. So they will most certainly be discussing that as well.

What can you tell us about this next phase of the deal? What do we know?

Yeah, details are still being hammered out. That's what the talks starting today are for. The talks will look a lot like they have in the past with the US, Qatar, and Egypt acting as mediators between Hamas and Israel. We know that the second phase is crucial to ending the war. President Biden, who helped create the framework for this deal, did outline some of it. In the second phase, male Israeli soldiers who are being held hostage in Gaza will be released. We haven't seen that so far. In exchange, more Palestinian prisoners and detainees are expected to be released, and the remaining Israeli forces in Gaza will withdraw, which will lead to a permanent ceasefire.

And what about the process for all this? What does that look like?

Netanyahu is meeting with US Mid East Envoy Steve Wykow today in Washington. Wytkoff has been instrumental in getting this agreement implemented, and he and Netanyahu are expected to talk about phase two. Wykow has been talking with other countries ahead of today's talks. He spoke with Egyptian negotiators yesterday, for example. What we don't know is what demands each side might make that could derail the deal. For example, Netanyahu has a lot of pressure from key far-right members in his government to demand the elimination of Hamas in Gaza. Hamas still appears to control Gaza very much so, even after more than a year of intense fighting with Israel attempting to eliminate the militant group. Netanyahu is in a really tricky political situation here where those far-right members have threatened to leave his government and collapse his coalition if he doesn't secure this as part of the deal. On the other hand, President Trump has been fairly clear about wanting the deal to go forward and continuing the ceasefire. So there are some areas of potential disagreement, and it's something we're going to be keeping a close eye on.

That is. Npr's Kat Lonsdorff in Tel Aviv. Kat, thank you. Thank you. 15% of Americans report that they smoke cannabis, according to a recent Gallup poll.

From what I smell on the streets, I'm surprised it's that low. Anyway, cannabis is now legal in almost half of US states, but finding products that are safely sourced and properly regulated is not easy. In the coming weeks, NPR is going to be looking at consumers can navigate the new world of weed.

Npr Pharmaceuticals correspondent, Sydney Lumpkin, is here to start things off. Good morning, Sydney.

Good morning.

Just to be clear, are there health risks associated with marijuana?

Yes. As cannabis products become more potent and as more Americans consume greater quantities, more often, researchers say there are risks to brain function and mental health, which is also true, of course, for alcohol. We're offering information to help cannabis consumers who do choose to partake.

If somebody does choose to buy legal cannabis products, is there something that can go wrong when it comes to quality?

Regulators are looking to keep out pesticides, mold, bacteria, and heavy metals like arsenic, which can come from the soil. But it's tricky because on the federal level, cannabis is still illegal, and states that legalized it can regulate it very differently. I spoke to Maxwell Lung, an assistant professor at Arizona State University, about a study he did in 2022 about that patchwork of cannabis regulations.

We found that there are over 600 contaminants that are regulated across some 30 states that have legalized cannabis at that time.

But interestingly, in each jurisdiction, there's only anywhere between 60 to 120 contaminants that are regulated.

What that means is that a pesticide that might prompt one state to pull cannabis off the shelf, another state might not even be looking for. But just testing for more contaminants doesn't necessarily mean the state's cannabis products are safer. It's really early days when it comes to the research. It's hard to say which contaminants are the most hazardous to human health.

You know, Sydney, NPR has reported that the Black market for marijuana is still booming. How does that complicate things for consumers?

Yeah, the patchwork of regulations has left a huge opening for underground producers and distributors. Npr has found those products are often grown and processed in really unsanitary conditions with banned pesticides, unhealthy working conditions, and unreliable potency.

We're We're talking about a market that lacks transparency and accountability. Whether I was getting cannabis or alcohol or my broccoli from an entirely unregulated market, I'd be concerned about any number of issues.

That was Paul Armantano, Head of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws.

Are consumers safer if they buy a legal, regulated cannabis product?

They may be. Right now, legal weed is probably more likely to be free of many contaminants because states are testing them and pulling them off the shelves. Even if they're not, they could. That's often going to put people on better behavior. In California, there were more than 60 recalls in 2024. That includes flour, pre-rolls, edibles, and vape products. In Maine, which has a newer system, it just issued its first cannabis recall ever in 2024. It was for mold. Researchers are still looking at how effective these consumer protections might But for now, if you're getting your cannabis in a store that has regulated products, there's less risk of encountering at least some of the contaminants.

Okay, so that's why NPR will be looking at how consumers are navigating this whole new world of cannabis use. Sydney, thank you.

Thank you.

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