Transcript of S. Korea President, Texas Abortion Lawsuit, Coffee Prices

South Korea's president has been impeached.

Earlier this month, he tried to impose martial law as he struggled against his political opponents in the government.

I'm Scott Simon.

And I'm Ayesha Rascoe, and this is up first from NPR News. Thousands of protesters outside the parliament building cheered when the measure was passed.

The impeachment has significant implications for US foreign policy. We'll have more on that story.

Plus, Texas sues a New York doctor for prescribing abortion medication to a Dallas woman.

And coffee prices soar after a bad drought hits Brazil.

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South Korean president Yoon Seong Yol declared martial law 11 days ago only to reverse his order hours later in the face of public outrage.

The political crisis threatened to pull an established democracy back to its days of military rule.

And there's Anthony Kyun joins us now from Seoul. Anthony, thanks for being with us.

My pleasure is gone.

Parliament has tried to impeach, Yoon, just a week ago. How did the vote go this time? Why was it different?

Well, this time, all law lawmakers in South Korea's parliament called the National Assembly voted. The vote ended up 204 to 85. Here's what it sounded like when the vote was announced in the main chamber. Of course, there's a lot of celebrating in the streets as well. Now Yoon's original rationale for martial law was that opposition politicians who were sympathetic or in league with North Korea were paralyzing the government.

But he never really stood that charge up. It never really resonated beyond his base of conservative supporters, and it became clear that there was no war or breakdown of public order or anything that legally justified martial law. And as his ministers and generals were arrested or questioned, it became clear that Yoon and not his subordinates were the 1 who's the 1 who was orchestrating martial law.

Anthony, how does South Korea choose a new president now?

Well, Yoon's official duties have already been suspended, and South Korea's prime minister Han Deok soo will stand in as acting president. Next, South Korea's constitutional court will have a 180 days to reject or uphold the impeachment. If they uphold it, Yoon will be officially removed from office, and a new election for president will have to be held within 60 days.

Has South Korea's democracy passed a stress test? Is there lasting damage?

It seems that way. 1 thing that happened was that Yoon tried to hand power over to his ruling party. He said, I'm not gonna manage things. They will. But experts said that's an unconstitutional arrangement.

So for a while, people were not really sure who was leading South Korea. And so many top generals were suspended from their duties. There was also concern about military vulnerability. The country technically remains at war with North Korea. I think South Korea's public image has taken somewhat of a beating.

This is a country that with the US co hosted a summit for democracy, and yet here was its leader trying to use the military to roll back people's civil rights. And, you know, a lot of people are celebrating right now, people who wanted Yoon impeached. But I think the sense you get from living here is that this has been a very stressful, even traumatic 11 days for South Koreans.

And how does it affect the US, South Korean relationship and and shared policy goals?

Well, publicly, at least, the US said it was relieved that Yoon's declaration of martial law was lifted. But I think privately, Biden administration officials have got to be absolutely exasperated that Yoon shot himself in the foot because Yoon was instrumental in forging a 3 way coalition of the US, Japan, and South Korea to help deter North Korea, support Ukraine, and force export controls on China, all these policy goals. Then again, think about this. Yoon is likely to be replaced by a liberal North Korea friendly administration. And if the Trump administration and North Korean leader Kim Jong un want to do the diplomatic dance again, South Korea could help broker some diplomacy.

NPR's Anthony Kyun, thanks so much for being with us.

Thank you, Scott.

Since Roe v Wade was overturned 2 years ago, out of state doctors have been prescribing abortion medication to patients in states with strict abortion laws.

A new lawsuit by Texas attorney general Ken Paxton and challenges that practice as well as the shield laws that blue states passed to protect their doctors. NPR's Alyssa Nadworny covers reproductive rights and joins us now. Thanks for being with us.

Good morning.

What do the lawsuit say?

So the lawsuit accuses a New York doctor of violating Texas law by providing the 2 drugs used in an abortion to a pregnant patient living in the state. And the suit says this 20 year old woman who received the pills ended up in a hospital with complications. There aren't any criminal charges involved. It's a civil suit, but it seeks up to $250,000 and aims to stop the doctor from continuing to provide abortion medications to patients in Texas. In a statement, Ken Paxton, the Texas AG, said, quote, in Texas, we treasure the health and lives of the mothers and babies, and this is why out of state doctors may not illegally and dangerously prescribe abortion inducing drugs to Texas residents.

The patient in question received pills under a shield law. Tell us more about that shield law.

So at least 8 Democrat controlled states have enacted these shield laws, like the 1 in New York. They give abortion providers some protection from criminal prosecution, civil claims, extradition, things like that. But the laws have yet to be tested. So this case essentially pits a state with a near total abortion ban against the state with laws that not just protect abortion rights, but specifically protect doctors in the state from prescribing pills to people in other states through telehealth. So Texas is essentially trying to test what the state of New York is gonna do with respect to defending the actions of this doctor who was providing legal care in the state of New York.

And, Alyssa, what is New York's position?

Well, the New York attorney general released a statement saying that New York will, quote, protect our providers from unjust attempts to punish them for doing their job. The governor of New York, Kathy Hochul, who signed the state's shield law said in a statement she will do everything in her power to enforce the laws of New York State. David Cohen, a law professor at Drexel University who helped craft that New York law, talked to me yesterday. Here's his take on the legal wrangling between the states.

The courts of Texas are going to try and force the doctor in New York to participate in the lawsuit, and they don't have jurisdiction over her. So they have to get the New York courts to try and cooperate, and the New York courts are not going to cooperate.

And yet despite that, anti abortion groups are already celebrating the legal challenge.

And, Alyssa, what do we know about the doctor in this case?

So the New York doctor is 1 of the founders of an organization called Abortion Coalition For Telemedicine. They help pass shield laws and offer support for providers doing telehealth abortions. In a statement, they said that the Texas attorney general was, quote, prioritizing his anti abortion agenda over the health and well-being of women. Now, Scott, it's worth noting that telehealth has made it much easier for people to access abortion medication. Like, even after the Supreme Court stopped decision, which struck down Roe v Wade, the number of abortions in the US has gone up.

About a 5th are now via telehealth, and then you break that down further. Medications sent by ShieldLaw providers now accounts for as many as 12,000 prescriptions a month.

And how could this case potentially affect women, in getting access to abortion medication?

Well, you know, long term worry for abortion rights supporters is that this case ends up in federal court, and it has the possibility of making it harder for women in states with bans to get abortion pills by mail. But for now, nothing changes. I talked to Angel Foster about this. She runs the Massachusetts Medication Abortion Access Project. They call it the MAP to be more discreet.

They operate under Massachusetts SHIELD law. They have 4 OB GYNs that prescribe abortion medication to people no matter which state they live in. We knew it was coming. Obviously, it's disappointing, and it's a little scary, and it's not unexpected. She says the only impact to her organization is that they're gonna talk to their lawyers more.

Just yesterday, they mailed about a 150 pills to people all across the country. The largest number went to Texas, and they predict they'll end up sending about 3,000 pills to people mainly in states with bans this month alone.

NPR's Alyssa and Edwernie, thanks so much.

You bet.

Scott,

did you

know coffee is the 2nd most popular beverage in the US after water?

I've to some of us, we only we the only form of water I drink is in coffee, as a matter of fact, Asia.

And for me, I just drink a lot of Coca Cola. But I am thinking of all the millions of coffee drinkers out there because this week, coffee prices on the futures market hit their highest level in nearly half a century. We invited NPR's Alina Seljuq here to explain what's going on. Welcome to the podcast.

Hello. Hello. Can you guess what I brought?

Did did you bring some coffee to keep you going?

Brought my latte.

Okay. You brought your latte. What is happening with coffee prices?

Yes. Coffee prices have soared, and it all started with problems with harvests, 1st in Vietnam and then in Brazil. These are the 2 top growers of the most common types of coffee beans. And the culprit was abnormal weather, which many in the industry attribute to climate change. I talked to some long time importers of green coffee, that's raw beans.

1 of them is John Cassette from Royal Coffee in California. And he says, first, you had Vietnam with a serious drought followed by heavier rains than usual, and that drove up prices for the bean that grows there and already had people scrambling to switch to the bean that grows in Brazil, and then Brazil had 1 of the worst droughts on record. Here's Cassette.

Once they start harvesting the coffee, it's it's kinda nice to have dry weather when you're harvesting. But as soon as it's done, you want it to start raining. You know, Get the soil moisture up and initiate flowering, and it just didn't happen. It really freaked people out.

Eventually, it did rain, but farmers later said a lot of the damage was irreversible. And so the price of the most common coffee, that's called arabica, jumped 70% this year. The price of the other type of coffee called Robusta at 1 point doubled in price, both cost more than they ever did.

Arabica and Robusta. How different are these?

Yeah. So they have different flavor based on where they grow. What I have here in my cup is arabica. It is the most common. Brazil is the biggest grower, and this coffee grows at higher altitudes.

It has a softer, sweeter taste, and that's what you find often in your roast coffee, your ground coffee. Robusta grows at lower elevation. Vietnam is the biggest grower, and this bean has a harsher, more bitter taste. It's used a lot for instant coffee.

Oh, okay. I I think my mom drinks something like that. But back to the prices Okay. Was it just the irreversible damage to harvest that drove up the cost?

You know, coffee markets are complicated like all commodities. Many of the traders actually need the physical coffee, the bags of beans, but many traders are just financial speculators. They're trying to game the price change. You know, buy cheaper, sell higher. And everyone bets on how much they think beans will cost in the future.

And so when people think those beans won't grow or there won't be enough, those who need those beans scramble, speculators go nuts, and it all only spirals the price further, which is what's happened. And it doesn't help that this week, 1 of the world's biggest coffee traders made a forecast that Arabica, coffee like I have here, could see supply decline by nearly a quarter in the next cycle.

Okay. So now we've been talking about record prices on the futures market, but I don't buy coffee at the futures market. Right? You buy it at the grocery store or at Starbucks. So how is this gonna translate?

So I'm sorry to say those prices have already been rising. If you shop at the supermarket, brands like Nescafe, Maxwell House, Folgers, Dunkin', they've all had waves of price increases. They've cited higher cost of the green rock coffee. At your local coffee shop, it really depends, depends on how they source their products. But, yes, likely, they're feeling the pressure to raise prices and they're just trying to assess how to do that without scaring away shoppers.

But fact of the matter is as a world, we are drinking more and more and more coffee. So demand has not waned so far. People so far have been willing to pay those higher prices for their coffee habit. The markets will probably eventually calm down. Importers I talked to pointed out historically, adjusted for inflation, we've actually been paying pretty low prices for a pound of coffee.

So maybe it's the days of cheap coffee that are over.

That's probably bad news for for coffee drinkers, but we gotta give it to you straight. No cream and sugar here. That's NPR's Alina Selju. Thank you so much.

Thank you.

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