Transcript of Trump Loses Control as his Own Team Tries to set Trap for Him
The MeidasTouch PodcastDonald Trump's own team has to set a trap for him because they realize how dangerous he is. That's right. Magga Republicans, whether it's Magga Mike Johnson, whether it's John Thune, who's the Senate Republican leader, whether it's Lindsay Graham, whether it's Donald Trump's envoy to Ukraine, Keith Kellogg, they are setting traps for Donald Trump to try to do everything in their power, even if it's inadvertently or mistakenly by Donald Trump, just to try to support Ukraine. They are pushing and trying to do anything imaginable, and they're even going a little bit public with it as well by trying to force potentially legislation that would require major sanctions to be brought against Russia to designate Russia as a terrorist state. And you can see behind the scenes the tension as Trump's inner circle, especially those... Donald Trump is very sympathetic to Russia, but the others who are very sympathetic to Russia are trying to push back against these public efforts by some mega-Republican people as well who you may be surprised, who, at least in the past few days, have said basically what's going down. So let's break it down. So you had Donald Trump lash out this weekend when Donald Trump made a post about Russia invading Ukraine.
Remember, over the weekend on a On Saturday, Donald Trump says, It's Biden and Zelinsky's war. If NATO does as I say, the war will end quickly. And Donald Trump is like, NATO and Europe need to stop buying oil from Russia immediately, and then we can do sanctions once I have those guarantees. Look, Europe, by and large, has stopped getting most of its oil from Russia. There's still some, to be clear, which it admits it wants to move away from. But by and large, they're not buying direct oil from Russia at all. You know who is, Hungary and Slovakia, part of Europe, are buying from Russia. Donald Trump promoted that. He said, I like that Viktor Orbán, my authoritarian buddy in Hungary, is buying oil from Russia. Viktor Orbán wrote Donald Trump a love letter saying, You got to tell Ukraine, Stop bombing those Russian oil depots. We depend on that Russian oil, Donald. Trump responded to Viktor Orbán in Slovakia, said, Hey, Slovakia. And he goes, Hey, Viktor Orbán, my good friend, I'm very disappointed that Ukraine is hitting the Russian oil depots. So why would you be upset if Ukraine is hitting the Russian oil depots, Donald, if you claim to be upset that Russia is getting the oil from those...
Europe is getting the oil from those Russian oil depots? That doesn't really make any sense, but it's all protectional as ways for you to try to wiggle out of actually supporting Ukraine and issuing sanctions. So let's go behind the scenes because there was this global conference which was very, very telling. So Keith Kellogg is Donald Trump's top guy in Ukraine. He talked about confronting Donald Trump in the oval office with Donald Trump's top general, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Dan Cain. They call They have that nickname for Raising Cain or whatever they call him. Dan Cain, who's the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Kellogg told Trump, Look, Russia is not winning the war. Ukraine is not losing right now. Donald Trump didn't believe it. Then they brought in Dan Cain. And these people are like super magged up at this point. These people are Donald Trump like allies through and through. And they even told Donald Trump in the office, Look, Russia isn't winning. They may have taken over a little bit of territory, but they've lost like a million lives, Donald. Russia is not winning this. And Dan Cain came in and pushed with the offensive also.
Watch what General Keith Kellogg said that he and the Joint Chiefs, Dan Cain did. This is important because you're not really hearing this anywhere else, but this global conference, I thought was key. Play this clip.
It's a great question because I was actually asked this question by the President, President Trump, in the oval office, probably six weeks ago, the same question, and I responded quite forcefully. I finally said, Mr. President, don't just listen to me. Your chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Dan Cain, is outside. He's out in the outer open. Break him in. Ask him that question. He's your Principal Military Advisor. And he did. And Dan said the same thing. They're winning. No, they're not winning. So Putin could say he's winning all he wants. I know what he wants to do. I know he's trying to do it. But right now, that he wants to take all of Donetsk and Khrushchev and Zaporizh as well. But it's a slog for him. And it's the Russia... By the way, it's how the Russians fight.
Now, Magamind Johnson gave what I thought was a pretty reprehensible interview over this weekend where he blamed the left and leftists for everything that went down regarding the shooter of Charlie Kirk. It's not a leftist thing, but this is what they want. The leftist did this. It's a trans ideology. I mean, they're saying the most heinous and ridiculous things to try to sow further political division, which is the exact opposite of what you should do. But I'll save that for other videos as I've already covered that at length. But one of the things that Maggie Mike Johnson said when he was asked on CBS about sanctions against Russia. Listen carefully. Maga Mike says that the House supports sanctions against Russia. But the problem, listen carefully how Maga Mike says this, is that, well, you have have the White House's support. So we're trying to get the White House's support. Then Maga Mike has to suck up to Donald to be like, well, I think he's trying to do everything he can to secure peace. No one does it as good as he can, which is obviously the most false and ridiculous thing imaginable. But you can see Maga Mike here trying to say, look, you could be a public hero if you support this, Donald.
Look, here, play this clip of Maga Mike saying that the House would support the sanctions against Russia. So next I'm going to show you the Senate. Here's the House. And the first clip I showed you were the generals, the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the Envoy to Ukraine, the two top military people. Now, here's Maga Mike. Play this clip. And when Lindsay Graham Republican of South Carolina says, as he did this weekend, now is the time for Russia sanctions.
President Trump opened the door on terrorists against India and China as a way to create economic leverage to end the war in Ukraine. Where do you stand on all Well, listen, I do believe that desperate times call for desperate measures, and I think appropriate sanctions on Russia are far overdue. I think there's a big appetite for that in Congress. We're willing to work with the White House and our Senate colleagues in the House to get that done, and I'm anxious to do it personally.
Are you waiting for the President to give you the green light, or might Congress act on this on its own volition?
Well, Congress really can't do this on its own volition because, of the President would need to sign whatever he do into law. It has to be a partnership. But we've deferred to the Commander-in-Chief. I mean, the President is a strong and bold leader on the world stage. He has brokered peace around the world in other conflicts in a way that no one before him has been able to do. We're trusting that he can use that same force and that same approach to bring about, finally, an end to this war in Ukraine. Everyone in America wants that bloodshed to end, and President Trump is forcing that.
Now, here is the Republican Senator Thun, Senate Majority Leader. Here's what he has to say. Let's play the clip.
Well, we will. Lindsay got another bill, the Russia Sanctions Bill, which has broad bipartisan support in the Senate. Also, I think, hopefully at some point, we'll get a vote. Both of those are steps that, I think, identify Russia for what they are, for Putin, for what he is, and clearly make a statement to the rest of the world that hopefully the rest of the world will follow. At least certainly, the West and freedom-loving countries in the world, I think, can rally around the cause of these children and Russia's role, and then I think even more broadly than that, the sanctions issue, which would impose economic penalties on countries that do business with them. You want to make sure the President would sign this? Yeah.
Because you don't want to put him in a bad place if he's not ready.
We have been working with the White House on that legislation, and we want to make sure that when we move it, it's something that they are comfortable with and that they think enhances their ability to get a deal with Russia and gives them the tools that they need. When the administration is ready to move, we will move.
Okay, so the speaker of the House, the majority leader in the Senate, the military generals all agree. What Senator Thun was also referencing was Lindsay Graham's legislation, where Lindsay Graham was like, We got to call Russia a terrorist organization. They are terrorists. Lindsay Graham is trying to appeal to Donald Trump's ego and say, Look, you could be a hero here, Donald. Here, play this clip.
What we're going to do is we're going to roll out our bill today. We're going to ask leaders of both parties to give us a chance to debate this and vote on it. We want to put in motion right now a process that would lead quickly to Russia being a state sponsor of terrorism, telling everybody in the world who props up Putin, you're running a foul of US law, and we're watching what you're doing, and you're going to pay a heavy price. It's one thing to go after their oil sales. We're doing that. But somebody needs to speak up for the children. We're doing that today. We're going to have all of our colleagues lend their voice to our cause. We're going to make Russia, under US call what they are, terrorists. This is what terrorists do. They rape, they murder, they kidnap. I'm looking forward to this debate, as you can tell. I'm looking forward to this vote. If Russia doesn't want to be a state sponsor of terrorism, under US law, return the children.
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Now, I thought there was another powerful point at that speech. By the way, this was the Yalta European... It gives you a wonder, what was that global conference? It was the Yalta European Security Conference in the Ukrainian capital of Kyiv. Here you have the special envoy to Ukraine, Lieutenant General Kyiv Kellogg. Just saying, though, let's be very clear, Russia is losing this war. Play this clip.
If he was winning, he'd be in Kyiv. If he's winning, he'd be west of the Nipah River. If he's winning, he'd be on Odessa. If he's winning, he would have changed the government. Russia is, in fact, losing this war. Now, they may make movements and say, Well, they're advancing in the Donbas region in the Desk. But if you consider advancing moving by meters, not miles, well, then, okay, that's successful. But if the cost they're having, it's enormous. I don't think people truly appreciate it. It's a number. But the numbers they have lost, when you're talking dead and wounded, well over a million, they left Afghanistan after losing 18,000. We left Vietnam after losing 65,000. They have lost over a million dead or wounded. These numbers are World War II-level numbers when you think about it. They're stunning in the loss. This And their first-line units that they came and tried to take Kyiv with a little over four years ago, those first-line units are gone. So they've gone through a second or a third or fourth iteration of wartime commanders. They're pulling tanks out of mothballs, out of museums to put on the battle line.
They can't operate in large movements because the Ukrainians would kill them.
And here, Keith Kellogg talks about the courage that he saw of Ukrainians during attacks. Let's play this clip.
Ukraine will survive. The reason for that is because you look at the resiliency of the people. Look, I'll give you an example, and I actually put it on my phone. I tell people, this gives you an attitude of what this looks like going to the future. It was a recent... It was put on TikTok or something that the attacks had gone on. Ukrainian citizens were in the subway, and sitting in the subway Subway, and they weren't huddled down eating or drinking. You know what they were doing? They were singing their national anthem. You cannot replicate that. You can't. That's the fighting heart of a country. That's not going to happen to Ukraine.
Then you have President Zelenskyy chime in, and Zelenskyy says, Today, I want to especially thank all our warriors who are inficting truly significant losses on Russia. Losses at the front, losses along the border, losses on Russia's own territory, thanks to our long-range strikes. The most effective sanctions, the ones that work the fastest, are the fires at Russia's oil refineries, its terminals, oil depots. To significantly restrict Russia's oil industry is to significantly restrict the war. So do you see the trap they're setting? Donald Trump says to Europe, You need to stop buying the oil, even though the only big purchasers of Europe, again, Hungary, Slovakia, Donald Trump's closest friends, Hungary and Slovakia, Viktor Orbán, particularly from Hungary. And Donald Trump said, Yeah, get your oil from Russia. I want that. But Zelenskyy and others recognize, Okay, so Donald Trump says no oil. No oil, no oil. Okay, well, great. Bet. We're going to blow up all the oil refineries. We're taking your advice, Donald. This is why Trump is so stupid also as he's trying to... And this is why our... Why is Zalinsky so smart and why Europe is so smart. Do you see what I'm talking about here?
Because Donald Trump is trying to use, Oh, you're getting oil as an excuse not to sanction Russia. So then Ukraine uses it to say, Got it. So you want us to blow up more oil refineries with long-range missiles. You are prohibiting our long-range missile use, but now you must want us to destroy the oil refineries. Got I bet we'll do it. Brilliant move right there. Russia's war, Zelenskyy goes on to say, Russia's war is essentially a function of oil, of gas, of all of its other energy resources. I thank the Special Forces of the Security Service of Ukraine, who did a great job recently hitting Russia's largest oil terminal in the Baltic Sea. There is substantial damage. Everything has been verified, and this is a tangible hit for the enemy. Our Special Forces are also keeping an eye on the Port of Usluga and all of other Russian points of access to the world market. Today, the Security Service of Ukraine's drones are capable of operating at distances of more than a thousand kilometers. The Special Operations Forces, the Unmanned Systems Forces, the Foreign Intelligence Service, and the Defense Intelligence are also involved. I thank them all for their accuracy.
Then you have President Stube of Finland say, Putin failed at all of his goals. This is This whole effort right here is being coordinated in response to Donald Trump's foolish post about Europe, and I'm not going to do sanctions unless Europe stops buying oil from Russia, when, again, Hungary is the big buyer. Watch President Steuba, Finland. Let's play this clip.
If you look at this thing from the perspective of Putin and the Kremlin, you have to ask yourself, How did I do? First, the aim was to take over Ukraine in a special operation in four days. Here we are four years into the war. Second was to create this unity in the West. I've never seen it more united before, including actually the transatlantic partnership. Third was to minimize the defense expenditure of NATO members. Trump has just hiked us up from 2% to 5%, and the icing of the cake is, of course, that Putin doubled his border to NATO through Finland and then eventually Sweden. He has failed in all of his strategic goals, including the fact that Ukraine became very European and not Russian at all.
Then here you have President Stube again saying, Russians have tolerated a lot of pain, but we'll see. Here, play this clip.
There is this element of Russians, not only through Soviet era, but before, tolerating pain to a point that for us in the West is quite difficult to understand. But I still think that an incentive to end the war is when you're not anymore paid the so-called Putin maternity packages of $80,000 for a dead soldier or bonuses for basically funding the military. I think that's a good beginning.
Then Stube talks about the situation on the ground. Let's play it.
The situation on the ground is not as bad as people want to make it for Ukraine. Look at the process of advancement of Russia in the past 1,000 days. They have advanced one percentage point of Ukrainian territory. That's about 18 square kilometers a day at a cost of roughly 7,000 dead or wounded on the Russian side per week. The cost is humongous. You have to ask yourself the question, how long can Russian society accept this?
Then Stube talks about what real security guarantees mean at this Yalta conference. Let's play it.
The range of the political arrangement management is somewhere from security agreements that most of us have already bilaterally signed with Ukraine to Article 5. That's why we need to find the comfortable zone there. But the system for me is simple. Number one, responsibility, the Ukrainian army, 800,000 strong. Number two, Europe supports. Number three, the US provides a backstop. And that, in and of itself, in my mind, is a strong enough deterrent so that Russia won't attack again.
So you have Trump's own party, his own generals, and NATO setting these traps. For Trump, knowing and as Trump's out there trying to justify further, not putting sanctions against Russia. Let me know what you think. Hit subscribe. Let's get to 6 million subscribers.
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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump’s close allies like MAGA Mike and others essentially trying to trick him into supporting Ukraine and sanctioning Russia as there is no way to rationally converse with Donald Trump to convey that Ukraine is the good guy and Russia is the bad guy.
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