Transcript of Trump Gets Implicated by Top Cabinet Member Over Dark Past

Donald Trump's top advisor, Howard Lutnik, just made some shocking admissions about Jeffrey Epstein that's just totally throwing Donald Trump under the bus. And this comes at the worst possible moment for Donald Trump. Let me just show you a little bit of what Howard Lutnik said in this interview with a new podcast by the New York Post writer, Miranda Devine. Watch this clip.

Let's play it. I say to him, Massage table in the middle of your house? How How often you have a massage? And he says, Every day. And then he gets like, weirdly close to me. And he says, And the right massage.

Now, this is part of a longer interview where Howard Lutnik, who was Jeffrey Epstein's next-door neighbor in Manhattan, talked about his visit to meet Jeffrey Epstein for the first time when Epstein's assistant said, Jeffrey Epstein's your neighbor. I think this was back in 2005. Why don't you come over and meet Epstein? And so Howard Lutnik tells the story, and you heard a little bit right there, where Jeffrey Epstein shows him the massage room and says, You know the types of massages that I like? And Howard Lutnik claims that he never really spoke to Jeffrey Epstein again after that. Although we do have photos right here of Ghislaine Maxwell attending Cantor-Fitch-Gerald parties before or on or around that visit. So it seems like they may have known each other a little bit more than Howard Lutnik is letting on, although it's not fully clear. But then Howard Lutnik goes on to say that anybody who met Jeffrey Epstein knew that he was creepy from the moment you saw him. So the reporter, the podcast host, then asks, Well, why did all of these rich people, and she lists a few names, Well, why did they go along with it?

And then Lutnik's like, Well, wouldn't it be just so obvious that Epstein was like this? So these people must have known what was going on. Well, Donald Trump was Epstein's best friend at that time and for decades. So wouldn't it be clear that Donald Trump would have known all of these things and that Epstein, right away when he meets you, starts to talk to you about the massage table and things like that, according to Howard Ludnik. So let me break this down. And then I want to share with you a blockbuster report, again, from the Wall Street Journal here. They've put out some good reports, and they've been talking about how in their latest report, report, how Epstein really wasn't blacklisted from Wall Street and banks, and how he was doing deals, really, up until the time that he was arrested again during that 2018, 2019 arrest. So let me show you this first right here. This is a longer clip. Howard Lutnik talks about what went down when he first met Jeffrey Epstein. Watch this. Let's play it.

He was your neighbor for 10 years. How well did you know him?

All right, so we are in number 11, and he lives in number 9. Right. So we renovate, we buy our house, and our house is pigeons and mice. It was derelict. So we rebuild our house. We moved in in 2005. Jeffrey Epstein is arrested in '08, I think, something like that. Knock on the door, his assistant, on a Saturday, says, Minister Epstein, your neighbor, would like to invite you over for coffee. My wife and I go next door. We walk the seven steps to the next house for coffee. We share a wall. It's in New York City. He invites us in. We have coffee in this, and he says, Do you want a tour? We said, Great. Interesting. He's got a really big house.

Every room you went into?

Well, I'll tell you. So his house is super big, really wide. So he gives me a tour in the living room, big living room. And then across from it is double doors. I assume it's the dining room. Yeah. And he opens the doors, and there's a massage table in the middle of the room, and candles all around and stuff. So I ask very insightful cutting questions. I say to him, Massage table in the middle of your house? How often you have a massage? And he says, Every day. And then he gets weirdly close to me. And he says, And the right massage. Now, my wife is standing here. So she looks at me and I look at her and we say, I'm sorry, we have to go. And we left. And in the six or eight steps it takes to get from his house to my house, my wife and I decided that I will never be in the room with that disgusting person ever again. I was never in the room with him, socially, for business, or even philanthropy. If that guy was there, I wasn't going because he's gross.

Okay, then in this next clip right here, you have Howard Lutnik, again, saying that Epstein was gross right away. It was obvious right away. Then Miranda Devine The host says, But what about this rich person, that rich person? He's like, They knew. That's how Epstein made his money. He would videotape the people, and then he would blackmail him. He was a world-class blackmailer. How else do you think he got the Sweetheart deal in 2008. Then she goes and asks him, Well, but what about Donald Trump? Have you talked to Donald Trump about this? And Lutnik goes, No, I mean, he knows the whole story. Trump knows the whole story. I was one and done with this guy. Trump was not one and done with this guy. So watch here what Howard Lutnik says. This is unbelievable. Here, play this clip.

I mean, that's an incredible story that you could pick up that he was a pervert.

It's gross.

That guy's gross. With my wife, the guy's gross. This was not the deep nuance of Howard Lutnik. This guy's gross. Right.

So how come Bill Gates and all these other people could hang around him and not see what you saw? Or did they see it and ignore it?

No, they participated. That's what his MO was. Get a massage, get a massage. What happened in that massage room, I assume was on video. This guy was the greatest blackmailer ever. Blackmail people. That's how we had money.

What happened to those videos? Why is there now such a dearth of information when Donald Trump's people are running the FBI and the DOJ?

I assume way back when, they traded those videos in exchange for him getting that 18 months sentence, which allowed him to have visits and be out of jail. I mean, he's a serial sex offender. How could he get 18 months and be able to go to his office during the day and have visitors and stuff? It must have been a trade. So my assumption, I have no knowledge, but my assumption is there was a trade for the videos because there were people on those videos.

And have you talked to Donald Trump about this and shared your theory?

No, he knows the story. But my story, I was the one that done with the guy. He knows that story, but that's it.

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Folks, this comes at a time that many people are also calling the Trump government shutdown, the Trump Jeffrey Epstein shutdown, because one of the reasons that Donald Trump ordered MAGA Mike Johnson, the Republican Speaker of the House, to order all the MAGA Republicans not even to show up to work. They didn't show up to Congress, the Republicans, on Monday or Tuesday or Wednesday. The key day is the day of the shutdown and the days leading up to the shutdown, because if Congress were to be in session, then Maggie Mike Johnson would have to swear in Congresswoman-elect Adalita Griehalva from Arizona's seventh Congressional district, who won by over 45 points in her special election last because she would be the 218th signature for that discharge petition, which would then force a vote to release the Epstein file. So one of the reasons that Donald Trump wants this government shutdown, and Maggie Mike is not calling members of Congress in is because he wants to use that as an excuse not to swear in the Democratic Congresswoman-elect Adelita Grahava. Just follow the Epstein files. Follow the money. Yep, and follow the Epstein files, and you'll get an answer to a a lot of what is going on right now.

Now, Democratic Congress member Jamie Raskin, he made that same point yesterday. Play this clip.

It also is not lost on anyone that shutting the government down allows them not to swear in our new colleagues colleague Ms. Grijalva from Arizona, who would be the 218th signature to discharge the Epstein files and to put a vote on that on the House floor. It's convenient for them to shut the government down, and they're not interested in making government work for our constituents.

Here's what he had to say outside of Capitol. Remember, all the Democrats have showed up for work. No Republicans are there. Just the Democrats are working. Here, play this clip.

And we demand Complete accountability. We asked for nothing there more than Donald Trump asked for, then Cash Patel asked for, then Pam Bondi asked for. They all said they wanted them released. Then they had a thousand FBI agents working around the clock. And guess what they saw? Donald Trump's name, apparently all over the files. And they came back and said, Nothing to see here. We're going to sweep it under the rug. Call off the talking points, everybody. Now we want to cover up the Epstein files. We're not going to allow them to do that. When we get back to work, we're going to reopen the government. We are going to resume health care for the American people, and we're going to release the Epstein files.

Meanwhile, the House Oversight Democrats posted did the following image right there, right in front of Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson's office. It's a photo of Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein right there. Let's take a look right here at this Wall Street Journal article, because I thought they broke a really powerful story here, and they've been doing a good job breaking these stories. So the story right here by the Wall Street Journal is called the following, The Wall Street firms that kept ties with Jeffrey Epstein until the end. From TD Bank to Honeycomb Partners, several hedge funds and banks were linked to the wealthy sex offender. Jeffrey Epstein never got kicked out of Wall Street's VIP Club. Epstein's banking and investment activities in the years before his 2019 death were more wide spread than previously known, including accounts at several banks as well as large transactions with well-known hedge funds, according to documents reviewed by the Wall Street Journal and people familiar with the matter. Epstein's estate has turned over to Congress a list of more than 20 banks that held accounts for Epstein and entities related to him, according to people familiar with the matter.

The House Oversight Committee is expected to subpoena banks for their records, some of the people said. Epstein or Epstein-related entities had accounts with several of those banks in his later years, including Wells Fargo, TD Bank, and First Bank, Puerto Rico, according to these people. J. P. Morgan Chase has said it closed Epstein's accounts in 2013. Deutsche Bank said it cut him off in 2018. To date, J. P. Morgan and Deutsche Bank are the only banks that have been scrutinized by regulators and sued by victims over their ties to Epstein. The documents reviewed by the Wall Street Journal show that in the years before he died, Epstein moved at least $60 million into Honeycomb Partners. Honeycomb Partners? An investment fund received $13. 5 million from a hedge fund run by Paul Tuda Jones and sold $15 million worth of private company shares to crypto investor Blockchain Capital. And again, you see massive movements of money moving $60 million to Honeycomb partners between 2016 and 2019, says the firm was run by David Faisal, who was a star portfolio manager at Steve Cohen's 0. 72 Hedge fund before he left in 2025. Faisal recently told clients that he was returning their money, saying he saw fewer investment opportunities.

Then Honeycomb claims that they notified US authorities six years ago that trusts affiliated with Epstein had invested in the fund, immediately instructed their redemption, and kept the government informed so that assets could be seized for the benefit of victims. No one at Honeycomb ever had any personal or professional relationships with him is what they said, and all the others are denying any wrongdoing as well. We have that going on. And then I'll just leave you with Congresswoman Adalita Grijalva, who's just standing outside of the Capitol right now, ready to be sworn in, ready to represent Arizona's seventh Congressional district. But Maggie Mike Johnson is refusing to swear her in. Watch what she says. Let's play it.

It is day two here in DC. Look at me. I'm surrounded by all of these beautiful structures, these beautiful people, all here to work. And am I sworn in yet? No. Do I know when I'm going to get sworn in? No. Speaker Johnson has left the building. And unfortunately, what that means for us is Southern Arizona does not have a voice here to advocate for you. You also don't have services in district. I need to get sworn in in order for that to happen. Every day that I am here without being sworn in, Southern Arizona loses. Reach out to Speaker Johnson. Let him know that I need to get sworn in.

Well, there you have it, folks. Powerful stuff right there. You heard right there what Howard Lutnik, the Commerce Secretary, had to say about Donald Trump. Lutnik goes, I'm one and done with the guy. But Donald Trump, I can't speak for him. But it was obvious to me the guy was a creep. Interesting. Tell me what you think in the comments below. Share this video far and wide. Hit subscribe to the Midas Touch YouTube channel. Let's keep reporting on the truth. Thanks for watching.

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