Transcript of Governor Hochul Discusses Fighting Back Against Trump

That right there is the face of a beaten and defeated man. Just look at Maga Mike Johnson being hit with the ultimate karma he deserves heading into the midterms. Or take a look at Donald Trump in fear, in panic as his regime is in collapse. We have different cabinet members and top officials pointing fingers at each other. Christie Noem blaming Stephen Miller, Stephen Miller blaming Christie Noem. They're all leaking to corporate news and regime media. They're blaming the border patrol. It is utter chaos. When Donald Trump has been giving speeches over the past 24 to 48 hours, he's really being hit by that instant karma. He's getting fact-checked to his face. He had that disastrous appearance in Iowa, where there was someone there at this diner where he was trying to stage this affordability event. As Daniel Dale says, In an unusual moment, Trump was fact-checked by a woman in the crowd at his Iowa speech yesterday who was on scene. Donald Trump said, I've lowered gas to $1. 95 or $1. 85 in Iowa. The woman shouted, No, you didn't. Gas is $2. 63. Stop lying. It was $2. 63 69 at the station right outside the venue, and the state averages $2.

57. Gasbuddy found just four stations out of 2,036 in the state. We're actually selling for under $2. He's just out there making things up, folks. One of the things to mention as well is that he did this speech in Iowa earlier in the week. Then he did the speech where he did a speech with Nicki Minaj, the rapper, and then he handed her a gold card where she now gets to be a citizen. She was undocumented, but then she professed her love to Donald Trump and Maga, and she was given a gold card. The whole thing was really weird. Donald Trump was like, Nicki Minaj has these great long nails. And look at her. I want nails like that. But one of the things I want to focus on right now is that as the American people are struggling, as the American people are suffering, psychologically tortured, living paycheck to paycheck, if they're lucky enough to even have a paycheck right now, they can't afford homes, can't afford groceries, but inflation is rising. It's not dropping. Let's be very clear about that. And then Donald Trump's attacking the idea of low-income housing as though low-income housing is some disease or plague.

Donald Trump, in the speech, he was attacking Governor Gavin Newsom of California and saying... He was lying about what Newsom's plans are. Donald Trump's like, You can't ever put low-income housing in rich, wealthy areas that were burned down by the fires. You can't do that. Then Trump signed a made-up executive order saying that the federal government is now taking over disaster relief in Los Angeles based on the fires last January. It's like, just give the disaster relief money, basically the $40 billion that's needed to rebuild these communities that the Trump regime is withholding. But instead of actually giving them money, Donald Trump is bashing the idea of low-income housing in general, like low-income housing, some horrible thing, even though that's not even what the plan is in Los Angeles, and doing fake executive orders saying that he's going to be taking over Los Angeles and just give them money. Here's what Donald Trump said, though, where he said low-income housing. This is like a horrible thing. Here, play this clip.

I don't want a big section of the area built into low-income housing. They want to put low-income housing right smack in the middle of it.

That's not the American dream. You didn't do that.

And low-income housing is great. I built a lot of low-income housing, but you don't put it there. This is one of the richest neighborhoods in the world.

Now, Donald Trump was also fact-checked by the Federal Reserve chairman, Jerome Powell. Jerome Powell made it clear that job gains have remained low, non-farm payrolls declined. This is not good stuff. The economic data is horrible. Play this clip. The unemployment rate was 4.

4% in December and has changed little in recent months.

Job gains have remained low. Total non-farm payrolls declined at an average pace of 22,000 per month over the last three months, excluding government employment. As the economic data is horrible, as people's pocketbooks are being hit hard, as 96% of the tariffs were passed through to the consumers who had to eat it, the consumers. It is a tax on the consumer, on Americans. The Corporation in America pays the tariff and it's passed on. But setting that aside, federal spending is through the roof. I know that is. I guess it's only when democratic presidents exist where people start talking about, Oh, the deficit is up and all of the debt. I mean, the way Trump is running up this deficit in the MAGA Republicans. It is awful. A new CBO analysis reveals that the Trump regime spent about $496 million last year to deploy the National Guard to six cities. It's about $100 million a month. That's our taxpayer dollars going to torture people using Trump's military forces when he tries to use the National Guard. Take a look right here, though. This was when Donald Trump was at that diner I mentioned earlier. It's in Iowa.

Donald Trump is like, Mocking the people there and mocking the Americans, bragging about making your life savings into a yo-yo. Trump is like, I can make the economy do a yo-yo if I wanted. I'll make it do a yo-yo. Here, play this clip. Would you like to see the dollar's value decline more? Would that be- No, I'd want it to be just seek its own level, which is the fair thing to do.

I could have it go up or go down like a video. I'll give you an example, unemployment. I could create the greatest unemployment numbers or employment numbers ever. All I have to do is hire 3 million people and put them into the federal government, and you have 10 people for one job, right? That's right.

Going back to Maggie Mike Johnson. Maggie Mike Johnson has not condemned the attack on Elon Omar by that deranged, demented individual who sprayed things on her with a syringe. No statements about Maggie Mike on that. No statements about the murder by the Trump Gestapo of Alex Pretty. Maggie Mike didn't do that. But Maggie Mike did have time to hug Nicki Minaj and talk about her coat and her nails. This is what it means to be a Maggie Republican today, just being completely and utterly demented. Play this clip. I'm almost wearing this book today.

I'm so glad I did.

Then also the utter corruption, the right-wing oligarchy on full display as Melania, for reasons that are unclear, other than the right-wing oligarchy, giving us all the middle finger. She went to the New York Stock Exchange to promote her movie Melania that was funded by $70 million, maybe even more from Bezos, gave her $40 million for a licensing deal for the film, another $30 million for marketing. Nobody wants to see this. The film's banned, by the way, in South Africa. And so while Amazon's cutting cutting 16,000 jobs. We've seen job cuts announced this week in other major companies as well. Amazon cutting 16,000, but 70 million to Melania. That makes sense. That's what the people want to hear right now. Pinterest laying off 15% of its workforce. Citigroup laying off tons of employees. Asml plans to cut 1,700 employees. Cuts, cuts, cuts. Melania, though, is right there ringing in the bell. Here, play this clip. Oh, and this is what's going on at Mar-a-Lago. It's not even let them eat cake. It is let's do more Eyes Wide Shut style parties nonstop at Mar-a-Lago. As the country is reeling right now from the murder of Alex Pretty, from the ICE Gestapo raids that continue.

At Mar-a-Lago, guests were greeted by showgirls in outfits, shipping champagne by the pool with their legs spread at Mar-a-Lago. That's what was going on. They're in bubble balls with their legs spread showgirls at Mar-a-Lago. The Family Values Party, everybody. The Family Values Party. And meanwhile, Donald Trump is whining that his golden ballroom is not being built. A federal judge appointed by George W. Bush, Judge Leon, is presiding over a lawsuit by the Washington DC National Historic Preservation Society to block the construction of the ballroom. They're doing a pretty good job in front of this federal judge Leon, who's very skeptical about Trump's ability to tear down the East Wing and build a ballroom. I think Trump may be permanently in joint or blocked from building this thing. Federal Judge Leon said the following, Where do you see the authority for the President to tear down the East Wing and build something in its place? When the Trump regime lawyers tried to compare it to Jero Ford using private donations for a swimming pool, Judge Leon said, You compare ripping down the East Wing and building a new East Wing to a swimming pool? Are you absolutely out of your mind?

Speaking about out of your mind, you've got Melania on state regime media saying that Brett Ratner, disgraced individual Brett Ratner, is very talented at the box office as she continues to promote her film. Play this clip right here. The director, that's Brett Ratner?

Brett Ratner. How did that go?

He hasn't been involved in movies in a couple of years. How was that relationship?

Very good.

He was very talented. I know that box offices could tell you that he was very talented.

We had other suggestions and looking into it, and he was the one that he... I said, the most important is that he puts out my idea, what I have, Cinematic film that I want to achieve. So he was the best one, and he was great to work with.

Let's bring in New York Governor Cathy Hochul. Governor Hochul, great to see you. You've repeatedly called for the end of Donald Trump and his regime's occupation of Minnesota and cities and towns across this country. You use that term that this is an occupation, that essentially it's an invasion of our cities and towns. Get out now and just shuffling the deck and removing Bovino as bad as he is and bringing in Tom home. That's not what the people want, right? They just want get ICE and Border Patrol back to what... Just get them out of there. Talk to us about that.

Put ICE where it was January 19th, 2025. Can we go in the way back machine prior to Donald Trump's militarization of this force that's supposed to protect our borders from transnational criminals and terrorists and work with the Border Patrol to keep our streets safe. They've totally lost their way. They've lost the original mission, which is to protect our communities. Their definition of criminals is someone who left their home country under dire circumstances like my own grandparents did. They left great poverty. They were told they had to leave because they would starve. They came here, became migrant farm workers, and worked at factories. But People who just come here in search of that life, they're treating as if they're criminals, and that's just wrong. What is happening in my friend Tim Walls' estate and in the cities is abhorrent on every level. It is un-American As I'm continuing to watch again, Ken Burns' American Revolution, and I think about those ragtag groups of individuals who banded together as patriots and stood up to this abuse of power and put us on a track to have a democracy that is held strong for 250 years and is becoming unraveled before our eyes.

We must be the ones who stand up to this and call it out and use all the powers at our lever to fight back.

Now you have people in the administration pointing fingers at each other. You have Chris DeNome saying, The reason why I used the term domestic terrorists was because Stephen Miller wrote it. And then Stephen Miller said, The Border Patrol was telling me that. It's their fault. And so they're all pointing fingers, and no one's taking accountability. And now you have the Department of Homeland Security saying, Well, the reason we came out and said that Alex Prady was a domestic terrorist was it was a chaotic situation. So we just thought that's what we had to say. And everybody knows that's just not how leadership is conducted. You don't just go out and start defaming people, but that seems to be their instinct with everything is just they don't think about things, and it just immediately attack, defame, rip apart. We see this over and over again, not just here, but everything they do.

The whole crew has to go then, right? If they don't know how to run agencies that have been run for decades before then, ICE was basically established in its current form after 9/11, yes, to protect us from terrorists, and they just don't know what they're doing. We can't have this level of incompetence at an agency that's so important to our society if they did it right. The way it's done now is just a joke. They should clean house, kick their asses out of town, and say, We're starting over, and stop militarizing our streets with people who have literally days or weeks of training compared to the police officers that I go to their graduations, I support our police here in the state of New York, and they have six months of in-person training. They leave their families, and they're trained in conflict de-escalation and all the other strategies you want someone to have before you give them a gun. I'm sick and tired of mast people roving our streets, terrorizing kids, taking kids, using them as bait. I'm New York's first mom governor, and you start messing with kids, I'm going to be pissed off more than anybody.

That's my state of mind right now. There's an anger, but it's also leading to policies and changes here in New York as we all try to figure out at the state level how we can protect the integrity of our states and our morals and our values that have gotten us through all these decades. Now they're under attack, and we We have to stand up.

I think that's an important point, and it gets lost in sometimes how corporate news covers politics as gamification. Who's ahead? Who's up? Is this person really good? Versus, can we just take a step back here and say, what are we doing? This is good versus evil in many cases. This is just about basic morality and decency. Having masked individuals walk through the street and terrorize people is bad. When Donald Trump and his regime take away people's health care and don't extend Affordable Care Act subsidies. That's bad. It is hurting people when RFK is out there changing the vaccine recommendations and we're seeing measles, surge, and other diseases that have been prevented before on the rise. These are just bad things that government should not be inflicting pain upon us at just a basic level.

I don't know what their political calculation is, but you basically antagonized everybody in the country. The Hispanics who thought you were promising just to get rid of the baddest of the bad, the criminals, the terrorists, the human traffickers, the drug dealers. Many of them supported the President, not all, certainly, but many did because they bought into his message of affordability. A lot of people bought into the message of affordability. Prices are going to come down day one. Remember that one? My God, the cost of ground beef and all the things that you need to buy for your families are just going off the charts. I'm trying here in New York to make it more affordable. It's a challenge because I've got tariffs driving up costs for my farmers, and so therefore, their products must be more expensive. The cost of everything is going up for my small businesses. For God's sakes, we're at war with Canada. I have a 432-mile border with Canada. They're our friends. They come and spend money in our hotels and our little Our bed and breakfast in our tourism areas and stimulate our economy and buy our products. It's our largest trading partner.

We're at war with Canada. We need a project, 2029, to know when we have a democratic President, which we must have, how to put it all back. We have to put the genie back in the bottle and regain some sense of normalcy. Generations from now when they say, What did you do when your democracy is being shredded by people in in search of unfettered power in Washington and surrounding themselves with a bunch of cronies who have no spine? Where were you? Did you stand up and try to save our country? The answer better be yes. It's going to be yes for those who look at what New York did because we have no choice. Communities. So what is being... I just feel like we're under attack. The farmers are under attack. The migrant communities and immigrant communities are under attack. Struggling parents are under attack. I don't know who doesn't feel, other than people making a ton of money on Wall Street right now. Okay, that's why our economy looks good, but it's really not. And we have layoffs. People are now starting to lose their jobs. Donald Trump pulled the plug on the largest public sector infrastructure project in America today to rebuild a tunnel between York and New Jersey for trains that was damaged during Hurricane Sandy decade ago.

We're ready to do this. We've been working on it, 10,000 jobs. All of a sudden, he says, No, you guys aren't nice to me, and he pulled the plug. Seriously? These people may have voted for you. These union guys might have voted for you, Mr. Trump, and now you're going to be laying them all off because the money is running out in a matter of two days. These are the fights that we have to take on. In addition to, I have hospitals that are teetering on the edge because they lost the money they needed from Medicaid. States like New York that strongly are proud of our heritage as being a progressive state where we led the women's rights and the LGBTQ+ movement and the environmental movement and early in the fights and civil rights. We're proud of that heritage, but this is the equivalent of that combined because this is an attack on everyone, not just one group or another. This is an attack on everyone. The consequences are so severe. I can rant all day, Ben, because you can tell this has hit a nerve as a leader of a state that I cherish and I want it to continue to be that guiding light for others and I say we do it differently in New York, but we certainly have a fight on our hands.

Here's what he said about you yesterday on the Sid Rosenberg show. He said, Governor Hochul, she calls me. Hi, President. Hi, hi. How are you doing? Could She cannot be nicer. She wants to build windmills all over the place. She cannot be nicer. Then I'll see her the following day on television, knocking the hell out of me. I mean, setting aside that these seem to be the musings of a second grader because the fact that you say, Hi, that's nice to me. When I read things like this, it's like, What are you talking about? You have a job to do as the governor of New York to defend and protect your state, especially when he's invading it. Saying hi to somebody, he views, Wow, so nice. It's just a very strange framing of... I don't know. It just doesn't even seem the way adults communicate. I can get into him saying these things about you, but this isn't the way grownups talk to each. It's very strange.

You know, Ben, bullies hate being stood up to, right? They don't like it. I grew up in Buffalo. We have a family with a lot of brothers, big Catholic family, a big family packed in a tiny house. We didn't have much when we started out. My parents used to live in a trailer park, and I know how to fight back. I've been trained to fight back my whole life. What I said to the President when he first got elected, I called and congratulated him. Mr. President, there are areas we can work on together. Let's redo Penn Station. It looks like a hellhole. Everybody hates going. Let's redo that. Let's work on building infrastructure. Let's do big projects. But if you come after New York State, our people, our values, our beliefs, you're going to have to have a fight with me because that's who I am. We can be nice and work together. I had to call him because he literally shut off Offshore Wind, which is scheduled next year to bring clean, renewable power to half a million homes in Brooklyn. Just turned it off because I don't like wind. You just threw a whole lot of people out of work, too, Mr. President, and they voted for you.

I know they did because they're from Long Island. These are the conversation. Yeah, I'll open up and say hi. I'll call up and say hi. Yeah, hi. That's the first thing you say in a normal conversation, right? Hi, how are you doing? Then I go off on telling about Venezuela and all sorts of tangents. That's fine. I want to keep the dialog open. It's important, but don't think that's going to censor me the next day when I'm going to ask about what I think about what's going on because I'm going to speak out.

I'm from Long Island, and so I think we're changing. I hope we're changing. I don't know what happened to us there in Long Island. I grew up in Nassau County. I went back, but I think things are actually changing now in Long Island as I think they're seeing some of the-They are now.

I think that an area like Long Island, I'm running... My challenger is the county executive of Nassau County in the November election, who Donald Trump said is 100% mega. That's all I need to put on the end. It's 100% mega, and that should serve us well. He is out there defending ICE, by the way. He is defending ICE. He started his own militia. He actually has 10 of his county paid for police officers deployed with ICE directly. I love Nassau County, but the leadership is really challenged and compromised right now, and we'll put an end to that next November. That being said, I do think a nerve has been touched in this country. There's been an awakening, which I think you add up all these individual fights that are now finally culminating in the death of two individuals, two 37-year-olds who are doing nothing other than just exercising their rights of free speech and the right to protest. Those have been with us since the very beginning, the founding of our nation, and we're not going to surrender those. I think, finally, this is a change. This is a sea change in people's attitudes. I'm sorry it took their deaths, but also it is now time for us to say enough is enough.

Christie Noem needs to be held responsible. They're right now thwarting investigations because they're lying about them. They cannot be trusted. They cannot be trusted any longer. They must be called to resign, fired, or impeached. Get out of town and stop doing the damage and try to rebuild the trust that we work so hard with local law enforcement to have with the communities. That is broken because people don't know who they're dealing with. You have a mask on, I don't know who you are. I was in an interesting encounter with an ICE officer when I was trying to free an elected official from ICE custody a few months ago. They literally took our city controller at the time and arrested him. I marched up there and stood outside the door and said, I'm not leaving until you free this individual. He was simply trying to help people being escorted to court. They alleged that he assaulted somebody, which is a flat out lie. Any surprise there? No. I stood there for an hour in the hallway talking to ICE agents, and I said, Why do you have to wear the masks? What's the mask all about?

They said they're worried about being doxed and harassed by people. I said, But FBI agents don't do that, and my police don't do that, our sheriffs don't do that, and they're exposed. They're on the front lines of people every day. Why do you need to do this? They really didn't have an answer. It's part of the intimidation tactics to have us be submissive, to have the population terrified that this person could do something, so I must surrender my rights. We're not doing that. This is the nerve that I said has been touched. You cannot do that in this country, and we have to stand up and say no more.

Finally, you had a big announcement advancement. At the beginning of this year, you and Mayor Mamdani announced expanding childcare as part of a broader vision of expanding childcare, eventually to everybody, but to everybody two years old in New York It just shows government working and actually doing things for the people and not against the people. I know that affordability is a big priority of yours. Throughout this year, you, Mayor Mamdani, and other state and local officials who are actually working to help people are going to be announcing things throughout this year as well. I know that's a big priority of yours.

Now, I'm looking forward to continuing to partner with the mayor. We have a very strong relationship. My job as governor, I also represent 8. 5 a million New York City residents, so I've got to focus on their challenges as well. I'll work with the mayor. I've been talking about childcare for a very long time as a young mother working as an attorney for Senator Moynihan a long time ago. I had to leave my job because I couldn't find childcare for my babies. This is personal to me. It's something I feel bad. It's like one generation later, they still have not figured this out when those babies are not having their own kids, my grandkids, and they can't find affordable childcare either, and they're struggling. I could not wait to dive in this issue with the mayor. We're putting a lot of state dollars behind it, but the only reason people need childcare is to go to their jobs. I'm encouraging the business community to support this whole effort as well because it's in their interest to have less turnover and be able to attract more moms to be able to come to work and young dads who want to be able to see the children during the daytime if they do an onsite facility.

This is something that we're going to keep leaning into. To and not look back from. So stay tuned.

Governor Kathy Hochul, thanks for joining us as always. We appreciate you.

All right. Thanks, Ben. Appreciate you.

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