Transcript of MeidasTouch Full Podcast - 10/24/25

We've got a lot to discuss on this episode of the Midas Touch podcast, the East Wing of the White House, fully destroyed, going, going, gone. Donald Trump said that he was not going to actually touch the physical structure of the White House. By that, he meant he was destroying the entire East Wing. He also now says that the Golden Ballroom is not going to cost $200 million. It's going to cost $300 million. And he claims he raised $350 million for what was supposed to be a $200 million ballroom. I'll let you try to do that math. We'll talk about that and more. The government shutdown continues, and while it continues, Americans are terrified that 20 million to 30 million Americans may lose their health care as the MAGA Republicans refuse to extend Affordable Care Act subsidies and are attacking people's Medicaid. We'll talk about that. Cattle ranchers and soybean farmers are continuing to suffer as Donald Trump's trade war against the world is backfiring. Meanwhile, the government refuses refuses to publish any financial data at all. We're not getting data about jobless claims. We're not getting data about inflation, no data at all. They're using the government shutdown as an excuse, the same way they're using the government shutdown not to turn over the Epstein file.

Speaking about Epstein, Melania Trump was sued by author Michael Wolf. Wolf says that Melania was threatening Wolf based on Wolf's reporting about her potential connections, if any, to Jeffrey Epstein. He's talked about the relationships and the photographs of her and Epstein and what may become of all of that. Maga Mike Johnson was sued as well by the attorney general of Arizona for refusing to swear in Adalita Grijalva, We may or may not be going to war with Venezuela anytime soon. And Pete Hegset, at the Department of Defense, who unlawfully calls himself the Secretary of War, just announced another war crime, blowing up a fishing boat in the Pacific Ocean this time. It brings the death total to over 30, and these indiscriminate war crimes continue in the name of the United States. We're going to talk about that and a lot more. Let me bring in Brett and Jordi. How are you guys doing?

Oh, my God. Every single day, you guys, you wake up and you're like, I cannot believe all this is going on. It's good to be here with you guys, though. I'm always happy to be breaking down the news with you and with the Midas Mighty. Thank you, everybody, watching. Thank you to everybody listening on Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Just such an interesting side by side and interesting, really, it doesn't quite cut it as a word here. But you're seeing how Trump is building this golden ballroom, demolishing the entire East Wing of the White House, lying about it, sending the military into the streets, screwing over farmers. You see the Republican Party completely just screwing over people with their health care. Those premiums, those increases are starting to hit right now. People are starting to see what the costs are going to look like if this continues. And it's just such a side by side between all the actions Trump is doing. As you see the grift also on full display, as you see the golden ball room going up, as you see him try to basically steal $230 million from the treasury by demanding the Department of Justice, give him $230 million personally.

As you see all these corporations jumping in to fund this ballroom, it is like the epitome of corruption. Let Them Eat Cake does not even cover the half of it, if we're being honest here. We'll dive into it all. Jordie, what's the latest on your end?

I'm excited to get into today's show. We have a lot to cover. Benjie, where are we starting off today, Big Bro?

Why don't we start with Caroline Leved's press conference? She's the Chief Propagandist at the White House, and I think she summed it up. Basically, what all Americans know already about this regime when she said, At this moment in time, the ballroom is really the President's main priority. Let's play this clip.

Go ahead.

Thank you, Caroline. In addition to the ballroom and the Rose Garden patio-I'm going into the back.

Sorry. Go ahead.

In addition In addition to the ballroom and the Rose Garden patio, is the President looking at any other renovations or significant projects here at the White House?

Not to my knowledge, no. But he's a builder at heart, clearly. His heart and his mind is always churning about how to improve things here on the White House grounds. But at this moment in time, of course, the ballroom is really the President's main priority.

Next, a reporter asked Caroline Levit on the ballroom. In July, Trump said it was only going to cost 200 million. Yesterday, we saw that he said it was going cost 300 million. Why is it like just going up $100 million a week at this point? Let's play this clip.

Danny.

Thanks, Caroline.

Back to the ball room, I'm afraid. I just wanted to ask because in July, the White House said that it would cost 200 million. Yesterday, the President said $300 million. Is $300 million now the operative figure, and why did it go up by so much? $300 million is the figure. And again, it's not going to cost the taxpayers a dime. So we look forward to this project continuing, and we will continue to keep everyone apprised on it. Perhaps the President will even bring you all out to see it one day at the appropriate time.

The appropriate time, you may get to see it. You eyes may get to see this golden ballroom, if you are lucky. Next day, reporter asked Caroline Levet. But okay, so the price has changed. It went from 200 million to 300 million. But also, didn't Donald Trump say that the project was not going to interfere with or touch the current structure of the White House at all? You've just demolished the entire East Wing. The East Wing no longer exists. So how do you square that with him saying the structure was not going to be touched? You just demolished it. Here, play this clip..

You two quick construction questions, if I can. You mentioned any construction project comes with changes. The President had initially said that this project wouldn't interfere with or touch the current structure. Now, he says to do this properly, he realized that the East The East Wing had to be demolished.

This is the people's house.

Why not inform the public of that change and when it was decided that the East Wing would have to be demolished? Look, again, with any construction project, changes come, and we have informed all of you. We've been keeping you apprised of this project. We've shown you the renderings. If you look at the renderings, it's very clear the East Wing was going to be modernized. In fact, I said that in the briefing when we initially introduced this plan to all of you and to the public. But modernize is tearing down It's a different day. Well, again, the plans changed when the President heard counsel from the architects and the construction companies who said that in order for this East Wing to be modern and beautiful for many, many years to come, for it to be a truly strong and stable structure, this phase one that we're now in was necessary, and the President wants to do right by the people's house. That's exactly what he's doing. It's going to be, again, like I said, much more stable, strong, secure, and more beautiful than ever once it's- Just saying words.

What the hell? The more stable The White House has been around for a pretty long time without it being destroyed. Stable, strong. We're doing justice by the People House. She also just says, like with any construction project, that's just what happens if you need to make an alteration. If I wanted to make an alteration to where I live right now. If I wanted to build an ADU in my backyard, an accessory dwelling unit, just in my own property, I would have to go get a permit just personally. If I'm renting an apartment or renting a place, I can't just start demolishing the walls at all. It's not just like with any construction project. By the way, this is the White House, and there's something called the National Planning Commission. The entire claim, I guess, from the Trump regime about why they didn't have to go through the law, the National Planning Commission, is that they claimed they weren't touching any existing structures at all and that there would be no material. He was just going to be building something new. Then they changed that to say, no, actually, the legal guidance is that we can destroy anything.

Then a reporter asks, destroy any? Are you saying that because you think that your authority is you can destroy Can he destroy the East Wing? Can he destroy the rest of the White House? Can he destroy the Lincoln Memorial? Can he destroy the Washington Monument? Can he destroy anything in DC on his own without getting any authority? She goes, Yes. Caroline Levent says, yes. Yes, that's the legal authority we have. He can destroy anything he wants to destroy, which, of course, is not true. But let's listen to what she says. We bring out the receipts. Let's play it.

The White House has explained that the reason you didn't submit construction plans to the NCPC is because that commission, along with others, don't have oversight over demolitions, but only over construction. And so far, you haven't built anything. So can you help us understand, can the President tear down anything he wants without oversight? Can he demolish this building or say the Jefferson Memorial? So it's not the President who came up with that legal opinion himself. That's a legal opinion that's been held by the NCPC for many years. It's written. We can get you that background in that research, if you wish, to include it in your reporting, because it is very important. They have ruled consistently. Their general counsel has said, When it comes to phase one of this project, the tearing down of the current East Wing structure, a submission is not required legally for that. Only for vertical construction will a submission be required. That's a legal opinion from them, and we are following that legal opinion. Again, I would just add, can any President do such a thing to the White House grounds? There have been many Presidents in the past who have made their mark on this beautiful White House complex.

This briefing room, as you all know, was not once a briefing room. It was a swimming pool. There have There's been Presidents who have completely torn down the executive mansion. If you look at what President Truman did, some of the photos of the construction project that took place in those years. I think sitting here today, we're all grateful for those efforts and the modifications that happened at that time. And But again, in due time, the East Wing is going to be more beautiful and modern than ever before. In addition, there will be a big, beautiful ballroom that can hold big parties and state visits for generations to come.

It sounds like the answer is yes, he can tear down whatever he wants.

Then secondly- That's not what we're saying. That's a legal opinion that's been held for many years. No, it's something that presidents have done for years and years. In fact, I have some photos here.

I just want to say because it's a lie. Okay, what she's saying is a lie. Yes, the White House has been renovated throughout the years. Yes, people have made changes. Any substantial changes have gone through Congress, and the funds have been appropriated by Congress. She brought up Harry Truman, for example. That renovation, the Truman Reconstruction, took place from 1949 to 1952, and it was approved by the Congress, paid for with appropriated funds. There was a discussion. It didn't just one day, you didn't just wake up, and all of a sudden, he's demolishing part of the White House. This has never happened like this before. I think everything we see with Donald Trump shows that there's no limit to what these people will defend. He could do literally anything. I'm talking the most horrific atrocity imaginable, the craziest thing that you could possibly think He could do anything. All of these people, whether it be Caroline Levet, whether it be Fox News, all the people around Donald Trump, the mega propaganda bots on Twitter, they will all go to bat to defend them. It doesn't matter whatsoever if they have any consistent logic between their statements.

For example, yesterday, I had somebody writing to me in one of these MAGA accounts. They were like, He's not demolishing the entire East Wing in the White House. Why would you spread these lies? One of these people, You're fear mongering, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You're lying about what's going on. He's only changing the facade. It's just the facade. And of course, we learned today, the entire thing is demolished. The whole East Wing of the White House is gone. It's gone. It doesn't exist anymore. And they just go on with their day as if they were accurate, they were correct, never correcting themselves, they'll just move to the next thing, which is usually some whataboutism. But Obama built a tennis court. Obama put some lines on a basketball court. Obama put some lines on a tennis court. Stop with the whataboutisms, all this very Soviet-style disinformation that these court decisions somehow justify you doing this. Nothing justifies you doing this. A President cannot just come in and knock down the White House, come in and knock down the Lincoln Memorial, do whatever the hell he wants. That's why we have laws in this country.

That's why there are guidelines around this thing. To see Donald Trump just unilaterally do this is incredibly disturbing to me. The defense of, well, these corporations are the ones who are funding it. First, I know there was a list of corporations that came out today about this, and shame on all those companies, but I'd like to know, how much are they each giving? What is Donald Trump getting in return for this? Because that's one of the issues when you have these private companies coming in to fund it, especially with somebody who is so pay for play like Donald Trump. What is the corruption happening? Also, remember, this isn't a one and done thing. You're building this gigantic structure. I think it's supposed to be 90,000 square feet, and this is supposed to be up forever. Who's paying the bills after the initial construction? Say even, say Donald Trump does have all this money to build it and it's being built from outside sources. The taxpayers is clearly putting the bill for this thing in the future. There's not going to be donors who are funding the utility bills, who are funding the maintenance. That's going to cost the fortune in and of itself.

Exactly. Brett, I want to comment on something you just said there. So the MAGA commenter to you, the façade. The MAGA base has never meant a word that they don't just love to cling to. It's just the façade. What are they even talking about? I just want to recap all of this really quickly, Ben, before we move on. Just let me get this straight. As the government shut down wages on, with House Republicans working 80 of the last 92 days, working 12 days in three months, the Trump regime's main priority is the $300 million ballroom. As federal workers go unpaid, as Snap benefits are about to lapse for 42 million people, Snap, the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, the federal program that provides food purchasing assistance to low income and no income individuals and families for 42 million people in this country is about to lapse. The main priority for the Trump regime is a $300 million ballroom. This is why I say often on this show that the Republican Party, they're not pro-life, they're pro-force birth, because after you're born, they don't give a damn about you. I wish I was making this up. I wish I was being hyperbolic, But Trump's chief propaganda is Caroline Levit.

She said this out loud. We all just heard it. We just played the clip. The number one priority, the main priority for the regime is the $300 million ballroom. There is no other conclusion I can draw other than MAGA and the Trump regime, they hate America. They hate the American people, and they hate American workers.

Well, there's that. There's the ballroom. There's the National Guard invading cities after ICE invades, creates turmoil, and they bring in the National Guard to invade blue cities, and then rigging the midterm elections. That's basically the focus. Trump was asked, I think we've got this clip in a press conference he had earlier the day. So how much money have you raised for this. Now, I thought it was 200 million. Now, it's 300 million. Then Trump goes, No, it's 350 million right now. There's like, what, a 50 million extra? Why don't we know, okay, if it's 350 million, who Where's this money coming from? Then the reporter says, How much are you donating? What's your number? Because remember, originally, Trump said, He's paying for it all. Just think about the fraud that he's committed already. He said, He's paying for it all, number one, which is a lie. That was he said, I'm paying for it all. Number two, I'm not going to touch the existing structure. I admire the existing structure of the East Wing. It will not be touched at all. That's what he said as well. Again, that's not like a minor fraud. That's a major fraud on the American people because just think about it.

Maybe people would have filed lawsuits earlier had they known that it was actually going to demolish the Wing and that he was not going to pay for it all. That now it's illegal quid pro quo, and now you've destroyed the bill. It's a major fraud. It's a major crime. I honestly believe that all of the corporations that are involved in this should be criminally prosecuted when Trump's out of office. I truly do. I think if your name's on the list, I believe you've engaged in a crime to destroy and desecrate the White House. I think Democrats need to talk about it like that. Like, you all are criminals. I think that part of the pull into fascism by these corporations is that once you bend the knee a little, if you don't bend the knee fully, it's hard to un bend the knee, if you know what I mean, because at this point, you as corporations are so down the path of humiliation and criminality and destroying our free markets, that your only concept of what the future holds is you destroying our free market system and you destroying America, but you existing as an oligarch where your money is based on favors being handed to you.

You give Donald Trump a golden bar, it gives you an exemption. You pay for this, he gives you that. Your stock price is now based on utter fabrications because the fundamentals of our economy are as horrible as you can be. You look at any stat, we're in a recession. I mean, 23, 24 states are in a recession. Job, we don't even have the claims, but the fundamentals are shredded. So you go, Well, then why is the stock market going up? Well, because it's a lot of the same corporations that just keep making announcements and their prices going up based upon doing doing oligarchical crap with Donald Trump. He's like, Oh, I guess it should go up. I guess it should go up. But fundamentally, that leads to a crash. Those companies are going to be screwed. They're going to have a really horrible place in our history. I just think it's important that we call it out. Here's Trump, just so you hear him in his own words, saying, 350 million has been raised. Why would you raise more money than the project cost if you don't intend to use it or take it? Here, play this clip.

I know how you raise the full 300 million Have you raised the full 300 million needed to fund your ballroom?

How much specifically are you donating to this construction project?

I think 350 million dollars.

All donor money and money that we put up, it's going to be It's going to cost right in the neighborhood of 300 million. It's been expanded and made absolutely... It'll be the most beautiful ballroom anywhere in the world, I think. How much, specifically, are you donating to it, personally? How much am I donating? I won't be able to tell you I finish, but I'll donate whatever is needed. I'll tell you that. That means he's giving nothing. He previously said he was going to pay the whole thing himself. You hear right there, I just truly don't get the American who lives in this country, likely on an affordable Care Act plan or Medicaid, you're either probably on one unless you're on Medicare, who sees that and goes, That's my guy. That's my guy. Yeah, Trump. Yeah, man, that's what I'm looking for. I'm not sure what that accent is, but that's how I imagine that meant to sound.

That's generic Trump supporter.

Yeah, man, that's what I want. Don't tell me. You don't tell me. I don't want to know.

You know what you sound like? I don't know for those listeners or viewers who maybe have seen the Righteous Gemstones, you sound a little like Baby Billy.

I hear that. I hear Baby Billy in there.

I hear it's a fantastic character.

Not Sandler's character in Waterboy, but just Waterboy in general in there. And so that's good, Ben.

A little like Walter Goggins, the actor. That's so funny. Well, I mean, think about if you're one of these soybean farmers who's getting completely screwed over, if you're one of these cattle ranchers who's being completely screwed over. If you're somebody who relies on these affordable care act subsidies who's being completely screwed over, I could go down the list. I could do this all day. You're watching the priority of the administration right now, them spend all of this money and all of this time and focus all of their energy on building a gilded ballroom in Washington, DC. I mean, it's just the epitome. It's just the most corrupt regime we've ever seen. I think this is going to be my pitch, and I don't know if this is smart politically or not. I don't care about politics, but this is going to be my pitch to future Democrats are able to retake House Senate, get full proof majorities. I think we need a constitutional amendment. We can call it the No King's Act, the No King Amendment. It's got to be a constitutional amendment, and we need to go through. Use Trump as a test case.

Every single thing that Donald Trump has done that we've previously relied upon flimsy laws or precedent, we go through and you put it in the Constitution that these things aren't allowed. You ban the President for being able to assume control over the National Guard without it going through an independent body. You ban the ability to just unilaterally set these tariffs. You set parameters around that. Once again, you force it to go through a unilateral, an independent body, rather. You reform the pardon power so people can't be pardoning their corrupt cronies. We'll get into that a little more later in this episode. You reform the Insurrection Act, just all these various things, all these weaknesses in our system. I think you patch up with a new constitutional amendment. We could even put your name on it, Donald, if you really want your name on something, okay? But I think it's very obvious that we've relied far too long in this country on precedent, and we need to actually take action, and it needs to be something that is supreme court proof. It needs to be an actual amendment in the United States Constitution that clearly lays this stuff out because the stakes are just too high.

And we're seeing right now in real-time what happens when you let an authoritarian in the White House.

Brilliant. And let me just say this really quick because I want this on record. Not that 300 million and 350 million, the numbers that the regime's throwing out right now, aren't ridiculous. My gut and my guess, knowing Trump and how he likes to just be fraudulent, and how he likes the way numbers sound, this thing will up to $500 million by the end of it. Maybe like a billion. Yeah, he'll like that number. That would be a good number that he could say and boast around about. It's disgusting. It's embarrassing.

It'll keep going up, up, up, 100%.

I want to take our first quick break of the show. We've got a lot more to discuss as the United States going to war with Venezuela. Donald Trump seemed to indicate that we were as the United States going to go to war with Colombia. The language that Donald Trump and his regime are using about Columbia is very disturbing. We'll talk about the war crimes that are being committed by the United States in the Caribbean, as well as now in the Pacific Theater. We'll talk about Melania Trump getting sued and so much more when we come back. A reminder, become a member of our YouTube channel if you can. If you're already subscribed, that's great. If you're not subscribed, hit subscribe. Help us get to 6 million. But you'll see on YouTube, there's a button that says Join. Join is a paid membership. Only do it if you can do it. If you're able to gift memberships out to people, lots of people can't afford memberships during these difficult times. If you're able to afford memberships, gift memberships to others, they can access all of the exclusive content that you can access, like in access to the emojis and much more.

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Benji, where to Someone by the name of Kaseem Rachid, right? So just to recap everything, Donald Trump spending about $100 million on taxpayer money on golf, about $172 million on new Gulf Stream private jets for Christie Noem and her close friend, Cory Lewandowski, to travel the country on the taxpayer dime. $230 million because Donald Trump claims he suffers pain and suffering as a result the 2020 election, and he says that the DOJ needs to pay him $230 million, $250 million for a vanity ballroom as the White House grounds are being destroyed, as we showed you in the first segment, $40 billion to Argentina, while our farmers suffer tax cuts to billionaires, at least a $170 billion budget to the ICE Gestapo as they unleash chemical warfare on cities. They zip-tie kids. They kidnap people and disappear them to concentration camps. No wonder when you actually look at the polling data right now, if you look at the generics from Quinnipiac for the midterm elections, and this is why Trump and the MAGA Republicans need to rig these midterms. It's why they're frantic right now. The generic Quinnipiac poll shows the Democrats up plus nine in a generic Democrat versus Republican if the elections were to be held tomorrow.

We know that Democrats have been overperforming in special elections by 10 to 15 points across the country. One of the themes I just think the Democrats, frankly, need to hit on for the midterms is no kinks. There needs to be a check. There needs to be a guard rail. I think you almost appeal to everybody to say, no matter where you stand on any issue, this dictator needs to be checked. I think that's part of the appeal to Republicans, too. And Magus just saying, look, this has gone Far, far, far, too far for you. Obviously, it's gone far, too far. But what are you? You're a soybean farmer. You thought he loved the farmers because he said, I love you. No, he hates you. He's bankrupting you. You're a rancher. You think he likes you because he goes, I love the ranchers. He hates you. And not only that, but if you're a rancher, he's lecturing you about how you do business. I mean, like his posts were, You're making the prices too high, ranchers. You don't know what the hell you're doing, ranchers. You got to listen to me. You look at the statement, we'll put it up there one more time by the Ranchers.

I mean, the National Cattlemen's Beef Association. Cattlemen and women cannot stand behind Trump while he undercuts the future of family farmers and ranchers by importing Argentine beef. Another statement talks about how it's a betrayal and how he's manipulating the markets, the cattle markets. Not only is Trump giving $40 billion to Argentina, when he was asked, Why are you doing that? His response was like, Listen, lady, listen, lady, you don't know what you're talking about. We're going to bring Argentinian beef to the United States to bring down our beef prices here. You may want to look into what's going on with Argentinian beef right now, number one, Donald. You'll see that there's a massive case of foot and mouth disease there. Then you may also want to understand how that would undercut the American cattle ranchers who are already suffering because of your tariffs against the world. You may also want to then factor in that Argentina undercut our soybean farmers by selling their soy beans to China, further harming the ability of our soybean farmers here to find export markets. You may also want to realize that in Argentina, they have universal health care, which I guess America is helping to fund their health care while 20 million Americans are about to lose their health care.

You had Caroline Levet. She was asked a question about farmers and about American ranchers. Of course, the only way they know how answer questions is by blaming Biden. So watch what she says when she's asked about ranchers. Let's play.

How will Trump administration support those farmers? Look, the President hears those concerns. He addressed them yesterday himself. President loves our ranchers, and our ranchers love our President. And in fact, the President did a lot for them in his first term here. They are struggling because of the many horrible policies of the previous administration. President loves our ranchers, and he also loves American consumers, and he wants to do right by both. So the immediate solution to the problem of the rising cost of beef, President wants to bring that down is we have to increase our supply. That's what he's doing with respect to these imports.

Yeah, he loves you so much. He's going to undercut the market, manipulate it by bringing in Argentinian disease beef to screw over our cattle ranches. He loves the farmer so much that he's destroying all your markets to export to. But I do want to cue you in on something there because this is part of a brainwashing strategy. Caroline Levin Donald Trump use this. Why I highlight those Trump emails sometimes when I do my reporting in the morning. It's a form of love bombing. I love you, you love me, I love you, you love me. And you repeat it over, Trump loves farmers, Trump loves firefighters, Trump loves this, Trump loves that. You love me, I love you. And you repeat it over and over. Democrats never do that. Democrats never say that. Democrats never utilize those strategies. Democrats never look in the camera and go, I care about you. I'm fighting for you. I hear you. I understand what you're going through. Trump does that because he recognizes that humans want to hear that, but they also want you to deliver when you say that. I just want to cue you in. Trump says that because he recognizes that with words, he knows how to manipulate people and then screw them.

But you can do that in a good way in the sense of letting people know you're fighting for them and then actually fighting for them. I know sometimes Democrats think, Oh, well, you're just being performative. Perform. Perform and then deliver. Trump performs and then commits fraud. I just want to cue you in why they love them. Love, love, love, love, love, I love you, you love me, I love you, I miss you, I miss you, I love you. That's part of a brainwashing strategy that they use that we see in cults happen all of the time. Next, Caroline Levet has asked about, What are you doing with health care? One of the things that I like about Democrats fighting back in the way they are right now, as Trump and the MAGA Republicans have shut down government, is it's exposed what's really here all along, which is ever since John McCain gave that thumbs down and saved the Affordable Care Act, Trump has wanted destroyed with no alternatives. Remember during the first term, two weeks, I'll give you a plan, two weeks, I'll give you a plan. Never gave a plan. Then remember right before the 2020 election, he did that interview on 60 Minutes with Leslie Stahl, and he showed a binder that looked really big in detail.

But then Leslie Stahl opened it and it was 600 blank pages with nothing on it. That's what he said his plan was. That's why he sued 60 Minutes, not because of that, but he held that grudge against 60 Minutes and why he didn't go on and he was too afraid to. And former vice President Kamal Harris went on. Then Trump ended up suing 60 Minutes because he's a little weasel and a little coward. So she went on 60 Minutes. You didn't even go on 60 Minutes, by the way. But they want to get rid of Obamacare. They want to get rid of the Affordable Care Act. Then they don't have a plan of what they're going to do. If you have a plan, like my plan would be universal health care. Tax the rich more, which Which Trump's never going to do, and then give everybody health care for free. That's my plan. They don't have one. They wanted to go back to what was before Obamacare when people would die. Let me play this clip and then I'll turn it over to you. This is Caroline Leved saying, It was called Obamacare. Why? I'll play the other clip, too.

Let's play this one first. It's something the President wants to do. Brittany, one more point. I'll just point out the irony in Democrats holding the government and the American public hostage over a health care system that they created. The health care system was called Obamacare. Why? Because Democrats and President Obama implement it. Republicans have always said it's a broken system, yes, but they caused it. Now they want to shut down the government to fix it. We need to open the government, and then we can have these very important conversations about health care.

Okay, and then one more clip, Brett. Let's just show where she says, Well, what's your plan? What is your plan? Here, play this clip.

First is, we understand that the President, Republicans, will not negotiate on ACA extensions until the government reopens.

If and when that happens, what does the President think should be or what are his plans for preventing rising health care costs from the kids?

It's a very good question, and I'll leave that to the President to negotiate that when Democrats vote to reopen the government. When it comes to lowering health care costs, the President is deeply committed to this. It's why he has spent so much time and effort negotiating with Big Pharma to lower the health care costs of prescription drugs.

Because we all know that the prices of prescription drugs have gotten so much lower under Donald Trump, right? The most favored nation's provision. We all got it, right? We're all paying $1, the lowest possible price. No, we all know it's bogus. We all see the letters that the Affordable Care Act plans that we're all on in different states. In Colorado, $24,000 increases a year in Colorado. Similarly in Pennsylvania, 103% increases. That was a great question that reporter asked, What's your plan? Because you've made it clear you don't want to negotiate and have a conversation with the other political party. Then Caroline Levent says, That's correct. We don't want to, and we're not going to tell you what our plan is. I don't care what political party you're from. That's not the way our system works in the United States. It isn't. That, to me, should transcend political party, Brett.

By the way, I do have to give a huge shout-up to the press pool today. They brought their A game today. There were some really good questions out there. One of the questions earlier was Ouija Chang from CBS News. She did a terrific job. All these questions were actually very on point, and they really to expose just how bereft of any ideas this administration truly is. It's shameful because there are lives on the other line of this. I've always talked about on this show that a concept of a reality deficit, that Trump is able to lie, lie, lie, lie, lie as those lies aren't affecting people, sometimes they are affecting the people and they still somehow get sucked in by his lies. But when it's something like you're staring down the barrel of a health care plan that's going up and they're going to cost you another $20,000 that year, and Donald Trump is telling you that everything's okay, that is what I mean. That's the deficit where all of a sudden that person goes, holy shit, I can't afford that. I mean, what human being can afford that thing? And remember, the whole funny odd thing about this, the Obamacare, Another thing that they do is, first off, if you remember where Obamacare originated.

And by the way, Republicans named it Obamacare to try to smear Obama, and Obama's like, Okay, it's Obamacare. That's what you're trying to do. But remember, it originated with a Mitt Romney plan. It was originally like something that Mitt Romney had implemented in Massachusetts, which is what Obamacare, the Affordable Care Act, was based off. It has been a massive success. People like it by massive margins. It's probably one of the most popular policies in American history. It has a 70 plus % approval rating. Is it perfect? No. Is our healthcare system... Does it need a ton of work? Yes. Do I think it needs a page one rewrite? Yes. But this solves a lot of issues that were happening at the time. People being denied healthcare coverage of kids not being able to get healthcare coverage, of people with pre-existent conditions not able to get health care coverage. It saved a whole lot of lives and has done a whole lot of good. The Republican plan is, it's basically their same plan that they do overall with the United States government, is let's destroy this thing. Let's rip it apart. We may not be able to repeal it, but let's tear it apart.

Let's pull it out by the roots, and let's make this thing as bare bones as possible. And when the shit hits the fan, we will not blame. When people start to blame us, we'll say, no, it's not us, it's Obamacare. That's what they're trying to do right here. And Donald Trump, in his first term, he took an ax to Obamacare a whole lot, but it remained. Now they are once again trying to destroy Obamacare. They're taking away these subsidies, all the things that they're doing and refusing to act on it. It really gives away their game. Their idea is basically, We're not able to repeal this thing, so let's try to destroy it from within, and we don't give a damn who suffers and who lives. It's a really evil thing. As you look just throughout everything that they're doing, you think of Marie Antoinette here. This is what the administration, their entire thing is. It's like, some of you may die, but that's a risk. It's a risk I'm willing to take people. I'm going to take on that burden. That's Lord Farquad, I think, from Shrek. But that's really the ethos of the entire administration.

No, it is. And that leads me to this larger point, just a macro point here. You see Caroline Levin up there and just the condescending nature, the unserious nature of her answering these questions, and frankly, the entire Trump regime, obviously. I really do struggle with the damage that they've done. It's hard to imagine that it could almost ever be undone. How am I supposed to take them seriously ever when you know that you can elect someone like a Trump, when you know you could get someone like a Caroline Levin up there just spewing these weirdo propagandist talking points? And like we always say, we have kids. We fucking love this country, and we want this country to be kick ass as best as it can operate for not just our kids, but for everybody's kids and for future generations to come. And when you Look at Caroline Levent up there. Actually, it actually hurts me to see someone up there and just acting like that.

Not to get sappy about it, but it's a good point. Think about all the kids, and you used to be able to be like, When you grow up, you could be the President. When you grew up, you could work in the White House. And that used to It's like a positive thing, right? Now, you have your kids, you're going to, Okay, you want to watch the press briefing with me from the White House? You want to see what's happening today? Let's learn about some world affairs. You see the way these people are behaving. They're just like the most despicable, reprehensible human beings who you do not want anybody's behavior modeled after. The other day, I don't have it right now, but do you guys see the text chain that Caroline Levet had with that HuffPost reporter? He asked a very good question about Russia, and she responds, Mom? That was her response was, Your Mom. Then he asked again and he said, Your Mama, or something. That was her response to everything. Then he came out with the story, posted it, and then she published the text chain as if it vindicated her and was like, Look how brutal, look how mean this reporter was.

And she looked like a toddler. I don't care who you are, left, right, center, independent, moderate. I don't care what the hell you consider yourselves. But we should all be able to look at that as a country and say, We don't want this shit in our government. Where is normalcy? Where is decency? Where is just honesty? Where are the good human beings? They're certainly not in the White House. The one thing I got to commend Donald Trump for is that he did manage to find the largest group of grifters and scum that he could possibly assemble, and he somehow put them all in one place. I've never seen people this horrific all in the same place, equally just offensive and horrible. It's really something.

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It's live TV, folks. It's live streaming. What are you going to say?

All right, from hamburger helper to heat rationing. We're going to be hearing more about words like that under this Trump regime. And by the way, you don't have to just be like, Well, Ben, you just might us. You don't like Trump, so you must be fear mongering hamburger helpers back. People are unable to... They're going to need the hamburger helper. I go, Just without a sense of... Without a shred of irony. Here's how it was delivered by Fox yesterday. Here, play this Last but not least, one trend and true brand is making a big comeback as consumers tighten their wallets.

Here it is, Hamburger Helper.

The mix of mac and cheese and ground beef is seeing a surge.

So good. All right, all right, all right. By the way, you know that she had not read that before she read it live on TV because you could tell there was a moment when she said, tightening their belts or whatever, and she was like, shouldn't have said that. Can we play one more time? I want you to watch her face and listen carefully at that one moment.

Also in the background, I think it's Harris Faulkner, the other host, who tries to cover it up and act like it's so tasty and yummy to try to distract people. This is what we want. Yummy, yummy, yummy.

She's trying to cough to cover up her fart, basically. It's a metaphor. Okay, ready? Watch this.

Last but not least, one trend in true brand is making a big comeback as consumers tighten their wallets. Here it is, hamburger helper. The mix of mac and cheese and ground is seeing a surge.

Yeah, she did hesitate. Let me just take a look at these other stats, though, right here. A significant group of Americans are falling behind on their car payments, an economic warning sign. We're seeing credit card delinquencies at records highs, student loan defaults at record highs. That means 6, 7 million student loan borrowers likely are going to be unable to really participate in the economy because their credit is is going to be shot. The national debt rose $1 trillion since August alone, $1 trillion since August. Federal spending is super. I'll get that in a second. Total US debt officially crossed the $38 trillion mark for the first time in history, $23 billion per day or so. If you look for those audio listeners, you can see it. All of a It's all going up, but in 2025, it goes up like a skyscraper, okay? All of a sudden, the debt goes from a 45 degree to 180 going up north, right?

It's just like I'm not a math guy, but it goes up. It goes up. 45.

I'm thinking of my... What do you call it? Compasers or whatever. It's called the protractor. What do they call it?

Protractor.

Protractor, yeah. Compasers, I think. Because this is a podcast where you should know words. You have that. You also have federal spending is up about, what is it, 7% year over year right now. Despite all the things that Doge is doing in all of this, federal spending up significantly, 7% in 2025, over 2024, year to date. Any claim by the Trump regime that the federal government is tightening its belt, that's contradicted by its own real-time expenditure data, Aaron Sojourner writes. The administration is spectacularly hammering some things, but raising spending elsewhere. I don't know, spectacularly, what are they hammering? They're hammering down the White House, I guess, is what they're hammering down while they're spending all that money on Trump's golf trips, on ice, and all of these things. What did I predict? I predicted that the last time under Donald Trump, what did he add? He added $8 trillion to our debt or $9 trillion. I said this time it's going to be like $30 or $40 trillion to our debt. I think we're going to be seeing that. Then, Brett, we now are talking about heat rationing coming very soon as we're in the winter because of this government shutdown, heat rationing.

I think that's something the people would call a recession indicator, perhaps a depression indicator.

He has heat rationing in Russia, though, Brett. Trump is modeling the ballroom off of the Romanav Winter Palace. So I guess we're modeling heat rationing also off of Russia as well.

Yeah. We've seen this playbook in other countries and developing countries, not in the United States of America anytime recently, at least. This is crazy stuff. But this is what happens when you have the corrupt Trump regime that thinks that it has unlimited funds to carry out all the things that you were saying before, whether it's ICE raids or demolitions of the White House, or you name all the things that they're doing. And they're telling the American people that they got to start start reigning in their spending, and they're screwing them over, and they're taking away, in many instances, their source of income, their ability to live, which I think is so horrific. I wanted to highlight this specifically because I think it actually blends all the various things that we're talking about here, from the shutdown to Donald Trump's spending and bailouts to the actual effects that people are having on the ground. And so, as you know, if you've been watching or listening to the Midasuch podcast recently, we've been putting in these climate segments so that we could speak about these issues, because I think with all the chaos that's going on right now, the climate issues aren't getting enough attention at all.

And by the way, thanks for all the kind words about those. So let me fuse all these topics together for you for a second and show you how this shutdown and Trump's actions right now are screwing over Americans in the midst of this climate crisis that we're seeing. So millions of Americans right now, we could be going into a brutal winter as they've been over the past few years. And it's not just cost of the weather, but it's thanks to Donald Trump's cuts and the Republican-led government shutdown, people are now being forced to ration heat just to survive. In the United States of America, people are being forced to ration heat just to survive. This goes even before the shutdown. Trump had already gutted the low-income Home Energy Assistance Program. They call it LIHEAP. That's the acronym for It. That's the program that helps families pay their heating and cooling bills. He laid off the entire staff and even tried to eliminate the program altogether. But because of the shutdown right now, those funds that Congress already approved, by the way, $4 billion, are now frozen. Here we are, we're heading into winter, and millions of working families have no idea whatsoever if they're going to be able to keep the heat on in their homes in the United States of America.

Energy costs are through the roof right now, as I'm sure you guys have all noticed. The Guardian is reporting that utilities are already shutting off power for families who can't keep up with their bills. The total number of shut offs could hit 4 million households this year. Mark Wolf, he's the guy who heads the group that runs Lieheep nationally. He said the following, No family should be forced to choose between heat and food because of a federal funding delay. But that is exactly what is happening right now. And this isn't a new thing. Get this, the Trump administration, DOGE, which Ben was just talking about during Elon Musk's reign, they fired the entire team responsible for distributing these funds. So even if Congress somehow passes a short term deal, that money probably won't even reach the States at this point or any of the tribes throughout the country until December at the earliest. Meanwhile, Trump just is lying to everybody. We've been playing these clips. We have all the receipts where Trump says, your costs are going way down. Your electricity, your energy. It's going way down, way down. Energy prices are soaring right now.

If you look at Illinois, they're up 28%. If you look at Indiana, it's up 25%, up 23% in Ohio. So as I've been trying to paint the picture with you. You have Trump building his $300 million ballroom at the White House, throwing these parties for billionaires in the new Rose Garden Club, Club Rose Garden, whatever the hell he's calling it, bailing out Argentina with $40 billion. Millions of Americans here at home are wondering if they could simply afford to keep their homes warm during the winter. And let's face it, this is by design, in my opinion. It's working exactly as intended. It's working for him and his donors, maybe not for the American people. He's screwing them over. But I wanted to make sure that you were updated with that. Let me do one more climate update today because this is important, and all this stuff just goes under the radar because of what's going on here. Trump administration announced that they plan on allowing oil and gas drilling in Alaska's Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. You may know that as Anuar, one of the largest remaining tracks pristine wilderness in the United States, a critical habitat for polar bears, caribou, migratory birds, other wildlife.

Trump wants to use that land now, and he's giving the approvals to use that land to drill for oil. So we got to stay on top of all that stuff. And I know a lot of you always say, cover the climate. We try to do it as much as we can here. If you like these segments, by the way, if you like hearing climate news, if you have any thoughts on any of those things, tell us in the comments. I always want to hear them, and I want to make sure that folks know out there that the American people still care about these issues. They're important issues. People try to act like they don't. If you care about this, just let us know in the comments.

I was thinking, I always get to ask questions about the manosphere because people are like, Are you the left Joe Rogan? I'm like, No, I'm not the left Joe. I don't want to be the left Joe Rogan, but I'm just thinking about the manosphere, right? These podcast bros out there, as they're talking about, What's Trump doing? He's building a ballroom. Yeah, you're going to be some beautiful gowns. You're going to be some beautiful... You're going to do a tea party over there in that ballroom. Elegant ballroom is what I signed up for. There's a reason why Donald Trump's approval with 18 to 29-year-olds right now is negative 39. It was once plus five heading out of the 2024 election because he promised all these young people everything. You're going to make your life so much better. You're going to be rich. All the wealth that we've got, you're going to get it to. You're going to join the club. And very quickly, 18 to 29-year-olds who realize what a lot of us know as well that this guy is a fraudster, a lifelong banqueter. Negative 39. His highest disapprovals are in the young people. So don't let people say, Oh, young people like Donald Trump.

There was always young Republicans. That existed before. But like George W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, even George H. W. Bush at some points in time had higher approval ratings with young Republicans than Donald Trump has right now. And part of what MAGA wants you to do while they're so unpopular is to act like they're very popular. I know our corporate structure wants to perpetuate that narrative. He's the most unpopular President in the history of the country, and it's getting worse and worse as the government shutdown that he's causing continues to go on. That's one of the things right here is that you would think, what, Time magazine gave him another front page again, like another front cover, acting like this guy is like, people hate this guy. Like, despise this guy. Brett, you made a great point on social media about the tearing down of the White House. You said, Weren't these like MAGA Snowflakes, the same people who lost their minds over renovations to Cracker Barrel's logo? But they're fine with the physical White House getting bulldozed. I think you make such a great point right there.

Imagine if they brought a one-tenth of the energy they brought to cracker barrel or any time a Confederate statue is altered or changed or taken down. They go, Oh, my heritage. You're attacking my heritage. You're bulldozed in the freaking White House and you're not even batting an eye. It's crazy.

Let's talk about some international affairs quickly. Donald Trump was asked by a French reporter, and I think it was pretty clear what she was saying, that Trump can't understand accents. But she asked him, What do you make of the fact that the Knesset, Israel's Parliament, is pushing forward their legislation to annex the West What do you make of that? That happened right after the ceasefire. She didn't ask this in the question, but also Hamas is retaking control of Gaza with no sense of ever disarming. Also, we've seen about 50 plus Palestinians have been killed by Israel since the so-called ceasefire. There's been a lot of military activity, a lot of military activity taking place in the region, which what a ceasefire is. When a ceasefire, the military activity stops, okay? But here's what Donald Trump said when he was asked. Let's play it. He's so hopeless.

Go ahead.

Yesterday, there was a vote at the Gneset on annexing the West Bank.

Do you see Do you see it as a challenge to your peace efforts?

Could you say that louder, please? Yes. Yesterday, there was a vote at the Gneset in Israel on annexing the West Bank.

Do you see it as a challenge to your peace efforts?

Will you answer that, please? Because I I do not understand the words you're saying. Where are you from? I'm from France.

You're from France. You're from France.

Beautiful accent, but we can't understand what you're saying. She said, A vote at the Knesset on the West Bank. I have another question. The West Bank?

Yes. Don't worry about the West Bank.

Israel is not going to do anything with the West Bank, okay? Don't worry about it. Is that your question? They're not going to do anything with the West Bank. Don't worry about it. Israel is doing very well. They're not going to do anything with it. Don't worry about it. I'm never going to touch the White House. I'm never going to destroy it. Don't worry about it. $20 trillion is coming in. Just trust me. I'm not going to show you where it is. I'm just going to say $20 trillion. I'm going to give you a DOGE dividend check. Oh, wait a minute. I'm not going to do that. I'm going to give you a Tariff Rebate check. Oh, wait a minute. I'm not going to do that. I'm going to come up with a great health care plan. Wait a minute. I'm not going to do that. So he lies about Everything. It's just blatant fraud. Every word, every single word is fraud that this regime puts out there. Every single word is fraud that this regime puts out. Then we know that they're out there engaged in war crimes in the Caribbean and now in the Pacific, blowing up these ships.

I just want to be clear. I do not support the regime in Venezuela. There's a dictator in Venezuela, Maduro. He's illegitimate. They don't make fentanyl in Venezuela. That's just a fact. They don't make fentanyl in Venezuela or in Colombia. If you look at where these fishing boats are positioned that Trump is blowing up, the size of these boats would require them to be refueled nine separate times if they were to enter the United States from where they are positioned based on the size of these boats. Nine times to refuel. This is not where the fentanyl is actually coming from. But he's using that as the pretext to engage in these war crimes right now that are taking place. We've heard from the President of Colombia, You're killing innocent Colombians. So what does Donald Trump do? Well, Colombia is the enemy right now because you've called out the fact that the United States is killing innocent Colombians. That's where we're at with that right now. Here, and Trump is now talking about a land invasion on Venezuela or striking on Venezuela Venezuelan land. And so a reporter asks, So doesn't that require you to go to Congress?

Or don't you need to declare a war if you're going to start invading Venezuela? And here's what Trump says. Let's play.

If you are declaring war against these cartels and Congress is likely to approve of that process, why not just ask for a declaration of war?

Well, I don't think we're going to necessarily ask for a declaration of war.

I think we're just going to kill people that are bringing drugs into our country.

We're going to kill them.

They're going to be like dead.

They're going to be like dead. We're going to kill them. Everybody remember Abu Ghraib and the scandal, CIA Black sites in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere. It was a big deal 20 years ago when it was discovered that the CIA was covertly waterboarding people, a form of torture. People said, We don't do that in the United We don't torture people. Even the bad guys, that's not how you get good information. That's not how you're able to eventually stop terrorism from spreading by engaging in torture. Remember some of the photos that were taken of soldiers who were laughing at people who were naked and being... Remember, that was a big deal, and rightfully so. Everybody remembers that? I mean, if you were around that time. Now we're just killing people. They're going to be like dead. Dead, he says. He's killing fishermen. Likely, some are innocent people, and even the drug dealers should be a process before they die. In the United States, drug dealers don't get the immediate death penalty without a jury trial. This isn't even how you would collect good information and data if your goal is actually to stop drug cartels. Colombia was working with the United States on an international basis to try to stop drug trafficking internationally.

Gustave Petro was actually an ally. Columbia has a dark past, obviously, of being a cocaine capital in Mecca. Gustave Petro had been working in collaboration with the United States military to show how the cocaine distribution had been shut down there. The big issue is the fentanyl that's coming in from other areas right now, and not from those areas right now, and not on those little ships. It's common sense that a ship that needs to refuel nine separate times. There's no logic to it. Trump says he's thinking about invading Venezuela. There have been reports of warplanes over and over again near Venezuela. We'll keep you posted every step of the way there. Two other things I want to just discuss briefly. Number one, Michael Wolf, the author, you've seen him on the Midas Touch Network. He sued Melania in New York's trial court. Melania threatened to sue him the same way she threatened to sue Hunter Biden for defamation because they've said, Oh, she's got connections with Epstein, this, that, and the other. We've seen photos with her and Epstein. Remember, Hunter Biden is like, Sue me. Sue me. I want that discovery. She never sued Hunter Biden after threatening to sue Hunter Biden, which was interesting.

Then she threatened to sue Michael Wolf and gave a deadline of October 21st for Michael Wolf to respond. She said, Or I'm going to sue you, although she didn't sue Hunter. So who knows if she would follow through with the threat. But Michael Wolf sues her and says, That violates New York's protections on First Amendment. Your threat caused me to incur legal fees. Now I want discovery I'm suing you. I'm going to subpoena you. I'm going to subpoena Donald. Now you're in the New York courthouse. Let's go. Let's fight it out. Now, it will be interesting now if Milani counter-sues him for defamation, even though she didn't do that with Hunter, because I think she's terrified of the discovery. Michael Wolf made it clear in the Midas Touch Network, I want to know her background. Obviously, she rolled in the same circles as Epstein because we see the photos. Michael Wolf's like, What's defamatory about what I said that you had an association with somebody who you're photographed with? What are you saying the issue is? You met Trump at the Kit Kat Club, which was part of a shady circle of modeling people with questionable things happening.

I'm questioning it. I want to know what that's about. Wolf says, I've sued her. And you got to give Wolf credit for just doing it, for going for it and saying, I'm suing you. I want discovery. Let's go. Let's duke it out. We'll see if she counter-sues him or what she's going to do now. But she's been going and threatening reporters all across the country, threatening, threatening, threatening, threatening. She hasn't actually acted on any of those cases by filing the suit as it relates to Epstein. So we'll follow that. And then finally- It's really like Streisand effect thing, right?

Because now the more she protests the story, the more she threatens to sue, especially when it's not followed up with action, the more I'm like, Okay, well, what's there then? What are you trying to hide? And I think we actually do need to know more information now, so let's get you under oath. Let's do the deposition. Let's hear the truth, okay? Let's get everybody who may know something about this. The truth should be exposed. Let's get some sunlight on it.

Absolutely. Last story I want to talk about. It's important in shedding light and bringing sunlight to the Trump corruption. Donald Trump pardon someone who goes by the name of Cee He's a billionaire Bitcoin exchange or crypto exchange person. He runs something called Binance. His networth has increased from a billion dollars in 2019 to $80 billion. Now. He's one of the main funders and one of the initial funders of Trump's family business with the Wytoffs, World Liberty Financial. That's where Trump gets... You know how Trump has doubled his wealth or tripled his wealth into the billions? One of the things his family has a massive stake in World Liberty Financial and these stable coins and these meme coins that Trump has in his Bitcoin business and meme coin business and stablecoin stuff is where Trump's deriving a lot of wealth from. So this World Liberty financial thing is an area where the Trump family got a lot of funds and a lot of money from this guy CZ. So Trump pardon this guy. This guy pled guilty to money laundering back in 2023, was going to pay $4 billion in restitution, was owed to the government.

When you pardon someone, the restitution goes away as well. So would not owe that money. I'm not sure if any was paid to date. I doubt it, but we'll see. But $4 billion was going to be owed. So where do you think that $4 billion probably is going to end up or portions of that are going to potentially end up? Where you'd say a good return on investment for this guy CZ Jacques. Trump just pardoned the guy. The guy was like money laundering. His platform was alleged to be knowingly allowing Hamas and Al Qaeda and terrorist groups to use it.

I It is, yeah. And they weren't reporting any of that stuff. Willfully, they were choosing not to report any of that stuff. To add another layer to this, one of the lobbyists that was hired to help facilitate the pardon was this guy, Shane McDowell, who just so happens to be a hunting buddy of none other than Donald Trump Jr. And he and Donald Trump Jr. Were spotted at the White House last week talking to Donald Trump. So Trump could try to play dumb. He could try to say, Oh, you just... He yelled at a reporter today who asked about this. I think he did the same thing where he's like, What did you say? What did you say? And then he's like, Oh, shut up. You know nothing about crypto. You're fake news. You're fake news, as he does. But this is just the latest example of Donald Trump's corrupt Pay for pardon schemes. We've seen this before. We will see it again. It's corruption of the highest order. It's very direct A to B corruption. We've never seen anything like this in our history, which goes back to my idea for the constitutional amendment that I think at some point people should be fighting for because it's insane what we're seeing.

It certainly does not feel like the United States of America. It feels much more like Russia, to be honest.

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