Transcript of MeidasTouch Full Podcast - 9/12/2025

We have a lot to discuss on tonight's episode of the Midas Touch podcast. I'm here with Jordie. As you all know, Brett just had a baby, so it's just Jordie and me tonight. Let's get into it, folks. We want to talk about the assassination of Charlie Kirk that took place at Utah Valley University. We'll talk about what we know as of this recording. We'll talk about what I think has been a heinous response out of the oval office by Donald Trump and MAGA Republicans to immediately blame liberals, leftist Democrats without even knowing the identity of the shooter, stoking further division. There have been multiple death threats at HBCUs today, historically, by colleges and universities. Multiple other universities across the country have been targeted with death threats and bomb threats and other acts of violence. It should also be noted that yesterday, the same day as the assassination of Charlie Kirk, there was a school shooting that took place in Colorado with three students at this school being seriously injured as well. I don't want to forget that there is an epidemic of school shooting violence and violence in general in this country. We should talk about Donald Trump's physical condition today.

He was at a 9/11 ceremony earlier in the day at the Pentagon, and he looked deeply unwell. His face was drooping. I am not a medical expert, but I've had people in my life who I know suffered from strokes or mini-strokes, and I'll just say they look just like that. Again, I'm not an expert. I can't diagnose him, but the face was drooping. I'm going to play you a video from him where a bell is being rung during the memorial ceremony, and you see him there struggling and festering and not fully even appreciating where he is. This is serious, folks. I believe the White House is covering up very serious health conditions there. I remember there was a time where there was the New York Times or other corporate news would spend countless days and countless front pages focused on Biden. Biden looks like Olympian athlete compared to what Donald Trump looks like right now. We'll discuss that. Also, the inflation numbers came in hot. Very bad inflation numbers. A headline, inflation, 2. 9% year over year. Then you have core inflation of 3. 1% year over year. The cash squeeze of most Americans, very severe.

When you're talking about prices of coffee, audio equipment, clothing, groceries, on those categories, we saw really bad inflation numbers as inflation surges. Those jobless claim numbers you just saw there, some of the worst jobless claim numbers in a generation. We'll talk about that. Health care costs are soaring right now as well. And we're just a few weeks away from a potential government government shutdown right now, as Trump and Maga Mike have just completely mismanaged the budget. The monthly deficit in August was 345 billion, revenues 344 billion, spending 689 billion. Thus, the total deficit for 2025 was $1. 973 trillion, with one month to go in the fiscal year, that's $76 billion higher than the same point in 2024. But wait a minute, Jordie, Donald Trump said that he brought in $17 trillion. So if the deficit is about $2 trillion this year, and Trump brought 17 trillion. Doesn't that mean we've got a surplus of 15 trillion? We should be spending money on health care for everybody and education-free and all of these benefits for people. We could be really living in a golden age. Oh, wait. Donald Trump, the guy with the droopy face who's covering up the Epstein files and likely covering up his health condition and lied his entire life, who is a sexual abuser, a felon, a lifelong fraud, and a banker.

You mean to tell me that he was lying and we didn't really take in 17 trillion or even anywhere near there or even a trillion? He just made up the number like con artists do. But it's okay. Maybe in two more weeks, We'll just find a solution to everything. I'm Ben Meisellis from the Midas Coach podcast. Let's bring in Jordie. Jordie, we've got a lot to discuss.

We've got a lot to cover. That was a great intro, B. I mean, let's just get into it. I'll talk I'll pass it over to you in a sec. But look, I'm not going to spend a second of my time tonight eulogizing Charlie Kirk. My heart absolutely does go out to his wife and two young children that now have to grow up in a world without a father because of yet another instance of senseless gun violence in America. And by the way, Ben, you mentioned it in the intro. There was yet another school shooting this week that's not getting nearly enough attention, this time in Colorado. And look, here's the thing. I know we all know this. Violence is literally never the answer, and it's never going to be the answer for political disagreements because our strengths, they're in our ideas, not in bloodshed. Again, I know we all know this. As of the time of this recording, that lunatic assassin is still at large. No motives clear, no political affiliation clear. Yet the reaction from the right men in Might as Mighty, the right wing media and politicians, has been absolutely despicable. That needs to be called out because it's horrific.

For our audio listeners, we're bringing these posts up now. This stuff is incredibly incredibly reminiscent of the right-wing media's reaction and right-wing politicians' reactions after Trump and Butler. Meanwhile, how did that turn out? Well, the kids' parents were MAGA, and they were all registered Republicans. It's in moments like this that we should all be looking to lower the temperature and find our shared humanity, not fueling more hatred and violence that MAGA and the modern-day Republican Party are continuing to do, Ben.

I think about the Charleston Church shooting back on June 17th, 2015, where that lunatic terrorist, Dylan Roof, killed nine African-Americans in the church during their Bible study at the Emmanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church, which was the oldest black church in the Southern United States. The motives were very clear. It was It was anti-black. Former President Obama at the time was the President. He did not speak from the oval office and say, This is on the hands of Republicans. You have been spreading anti-Black rhetoric. You are the ones responsible, and Americans need to rid the country. He didn't do that. What did he say? What you're supposed to say, what you're supposed to do, what good people should do, that this is a time where we need to come together and that the actions of a terrorist like Dylan Roof should not destroy who we are as Americans. So let's remember who we are. Let's remember this beautiful melting pot that is the United States of America. And let us not be provoked the way people like Dylan Roof wanted us to be provoked to go after each other. Now is a time of healing. That's what former President Obama said.

That's not unique to Obama. That's how leaders of the United States have behaved and acted before. They don't use the pulpit of the oval office to say the radical left... By the way, without even knowing the motives, what the causes are, without even having any details. But the fact that the entire MAGA Republican apparatus, starting at the highest level in the oval office with Donald Trump, then at the Senator level, at the congress level, real leaders of the party, not randos on TikTok, not randos on Twitter, not a bunch of random people. The actual freaking leadership all saying, We need to eradicate leftist Democrats for doing this to Charlie Kirk without even knowing who did it and then casting it as though this is a Democrat and leftist thing. It's beyond irresponsible. To me, it is maliciously intending to cause more violence and more division and to provoke attacks in the United States. We saw, as I mentioned at the outset, we've seen five or six HBCUs, it may even be more by now, that had to shut down. Black schools are getting threatened. Why are Black schools getting threatened because of what happened at Utah Valley University?

Because people are viewing the types of messages that Donald Trump saying, and they're Oh, got it. You're giving me an order right now to go after them, to go after the other, to go after people who may not look like. I got it. That's why in these times, you expect leaders to actually lead. It's not just unique to HBCUs, although they're being targeted more than others. We saw other universities, UMass, the Naval Academy. We're seeing this take place across the country right now. It is because you have the individual in the oval office further provoking these things. And it is horrific, horrific to see. And then when we saw a photo of what the suspect looked like, and again, we need more data and more information as of this recording, they think they have the name of the individual, but it looks like a white guy wearing an American flag shirt. That's what it looks like as of now. And again, I think it's important, Jordie, as you said, to condemn in the strongest possible terms, violence. Violence. Violence is never the answer. What happened to Charlie Kirk is not just entirely unacceptable. I can't think of the words strongly enough to condemn killing another human being like that.

I want to be very, very clear about my view on that. Also, though, that doesn't mean that we have to now go and pretend that Charlie Kirk was some great guy. I can do both at the same time. I can clearly condemn political violence. But I could also recognize that Charlie Kirk was someone who spewed some of the most venomful hateful things that divided our country. His anti-Black, anti-gay, anti-trans rhetoric, anti-other, the things that he would say about leftists, his outright provoking of violence, the words that he would use after school shootings were downright dastardly and despicable. That doesn't mean that You can condone political violence in this sense, but it's also deeply disturbing when I see corporate media trying to act like this was a good guy. When I see in my neighborhood the flags because Trump ordered the flags to be lowered. I'm just being real. I don't think you lower the flags for someone like a Charlie Kirk. I don't think it's a tribute at Yankee Stadium. The guy said hateful things while he was alive. Nonetheless, in the strongest possible terms, you condemn political violence. We condemn political violence. Jory.

1,000%, well said, B. It's a real issue from the top down of this Republican Party, Ben, as you pointed out. You see Donald Trump in his address last night. I mean, just chills in a really dark, bad way went through my body when I was listening to Donald Trump give that speech, talking about these radical leftists who who caused this. Again, no one knows. As of right now, this recording still, the motives are totally unclear. To just jump to these conclusions, very similarly to what they did with Trump and Butler, it's dangerous. Why is it dangerous? Well, we're seeing it. We're seeing the swatting happening in the college campuses today. Something's going down in the naval base right now. Still more information is coming out about that, literally, as we speak. It's really really, really vicious rhetoric like this that instigates more violence. That's the scariest part. This is what I'm getting fed up with corporate media right now. I understand what they're trying to say, but we've all been watching the coverage everywhere. You can't miss it. People are saying, at the same time, both sides just need to tone down the rhetoric. I'm sorry.

I'm only seeing the rhetoric coming from one side. It is nasty, vile stuff, and it is coming from the MAGA side. It's not even an opinion. Nancy Mace, yesterday, when she got in front of the cameras as more information was still unfolding, the first thing she did is, These Democrats need to go. You got all these MAGA politicians talking about rounding up Democrats and deploying National Guard to gather up leftists, all these MAGA influencers out there on X. You see these posts floating around? I'm sorry, but this is the problem right here is we live in a society that MAGA and these radical right figures want to jump to conclusions constantly just to own some narrative, to own the lip. Because for them, the narrative is the game. The narrative is the plan. The narrative is the only thing that matters. Because once facts and data enter the equation, they stop caring. Again, let's look at Trump and Butler. That family had magazines in their front lawn. I watched the local news coverage on it. That family were registered Republicans. The kid was a registered Republican. Once that information trickled, trickled, trickled out, all of a sudden, they stopped caring.

But they didn't update their theories about what happened. No, they still ran with, They tried to get him. They tried to kill him. That's That's exactly, again, what we're seeing here. And we condone violence. Absolutely. There's no place in that.

We absolutely condemn violence. Absolutely.

Absolutely. Condem violence. Absolutely. There's no place in the society for this. No, never, ever. Then at the same time, what we're seeing with this whole Charlie Kirk situation is the same exact thing where these MAGA Republicans are just jumping to conclusions to own the narrative. It's just so despicable, and it's going to continue to lead to more it looks like because it's literally playing out today in the streets because of their rhetoric. Unbelievable.

Well, you take a look, too, at the politically motivated assassination of Melissa Hortman. Melissa Hortman was a former speaker of the House in Minnesota. She was targeted in a political assassination. We saw that person in the Jason mask. It was a horrifying sight. Hortman and her husband were assassinated First, all that MAGA wanted to do was blame the Democrats and say, Oh, this was a Democratic thing. Governor Walls appointed this guy to the board, so it must be the Democrats' fault. The guy was a Trump supporter. The guy was a Republican. The guy was politically motivated against Hortmen, didn't stop MAGA Republicans from pushing their narrative. Donald Trump didn't even call the governor of Minnesota, Governor Walls. Donald Trump didn't even call because Donald Trump, he's a mess. Why would I ever call him? I'm not going to give him a call. Why wouldn't you give him a call or even address it? Or how about this? I live in Los Angeles. During the wildfires, while I was evacuating my home, while we fear for our lives and the lives of friends and family members, leaving our homes behind while so many people lost their homes, the Magas lied about the whole thing.

Look, Gavin, Gavin Newscom, he's doing this to you. He's the one who's doing it. And that's really the moment where Governor Newsom learned, holy crap, because at first he was ignoring it because he's like, I got to deal with the fire. And then he saw what these people were doing and how they were doing it. And he's like, So you mean to tell me that I have to focus almost the same amount of my time on social media and digital media as I do actually as the governor dealing with the fire? Otherwise, the misinformation is going to spread and undermine our recovery effort? Don't we all come together as a freaking country? We don't anymore. And Jordie, to your point, I don't view it as a both sides issue. Don't get me wrong, I think on the... Is there people on the left who are saying entirely inappropriate things and things that I strongly disagree with about Charlie Kirk and about others? And that sickens me Frankly, of course, that's happening. But it's happening, as I mentioned at the outset, from random people on social media who don't even know their identity, random people who are being used.

This is what right wing has always been able to capture as avatars. We're like, This is how liberals act. This is how Democrats act. It's like, I don't know who these people are. A random college student. Who is this person? This person isn't a leader in the Democratic Party. This person doesn't have moral authority or authority at all to speak on behalf of others. You're cherry-picking a crazy person or a deranged person, and you're saying, Look at how the lips are. I don't know who this person is. On the other hand, the graphic that you showed, Jordie, earlier, are MAGA leaders. Donald Trump's out there saying this. Maga Republican Congress members are out there saying this. People who run their movement who are the decision makers, are the ones saying these things about rounding them up and eradicating them and things like horrible, horrible stuff. You mentioned the Nancy Mace clip. Let me play the Nancy Mace clip right now. Here's Nancy Mace yesterday. Before any news is out, I mean, you have to remember, the FBI screwed that at this point, as of this recording, the FBI screwed it up twice. They picked one guy who was a mentally ill guy who was not the shooter and who was known to go to all these political events in Utah, and he would always get arrested for misdemeanors.

They picked him up first. Then they picked up an Arab guy who happened to be a Charlie Kirk supporter, and they brought the Arab guy in for questioning because he was Arab. That's when Cash Patel was like, We found the guy, and it was like, The wrong guy. But then on that basis, you have Nancy Mace For senators, Congresswoman, Congress members, blaming Liberals and Democrats, so they're behind this. This is what Nancy Mace said. Let's play. I'm going to say this. Democrats own what happened today. I am devastated. My kids have called panicking. They probably all the kids of every conservative in the country call panicking. Just because you speak your mind on an issue doesn't mean you get shot. By that logic, do Republicans own the shooting of the Democratic lawmakers in Minnesota? Isn't this on both sides? Are you kidding me? No, I'm asking you to answer this question. We don't know what condition Charlie Kirk is in right now. Some raging leftist lunatic put a bullet through his neck. You want to talk about Republicans right now? No. No, I'm asking you- No, not at all. You said that Democrats have done it, too.

No, this is on Democrats own this. Democrats own this. But isn't there a problem with political violence across the spectrum? Yeah, we're talking about Charlie Kirk right now. That's the subject of this that we're talking about right now. Democrats own this 100%. And again, how deeply irresponsible that rhetoric is. We've heard that from senators. We heard that from other Congress members. We heard that from Donald Trump in the oval office. There was a concerted push of that messaging. And in terms of violence across the country, yesterday, there was the shooting at the Colorado School. And today, as more information is coming in, we talked about it earlier in the show about the active shooter at the US Naval Academy in Annapolis. There appear to be many fatalities, at least three casualties, rather. Let me be clear. At least three casualties are being reported so far by authorities there with additional gunshots being heard near Beach Hall. And this is a time where we need to solve these issues. This is a time where 85 % of Americans support common sense gun reform. By the way, do I believe in thoughts and prayer? Absolutely, I believe in thoughts and prayer.

Do I believe in mental health investments to deal with a mental health epidemic in this country? Absolutely. I can also agree that we need common sense gun reform. Now, when it comes to mental health activities and research and investments and deployment of funds, guess who doesn't fund it? Guess who's reduced mental health funding in schools and universities? Maga Republicans have stripped the budget of critical mental health funding, and they don't support common sense gun reform despite 85% of Americans. Then when you say you support common sense gun reform, what do the MAGA Republicans say? They go, Oh, you hate thoughts and prayers? You hate religion? You hate Christians? You hate Christians? You hate thoughts? No, no, no. Stop with that. Stop. Of course, thoughts and prayers, fine. Absolutely. But let's solve freaking problems because the rest of the world looks at the United States like we're a bunch of freaking lunatics. They look at this country and say, what the hell is this country have become? You have ICE agents, mass disappearing human beings off the streets, throwing people into concentration camps. Every single day, There seems to be another school shooting or mass shooting.

Would it have been close to 50? Close to 50 this year? The hell is happening? And then we have the person in the oval office provoking more violence each and every day. When we come back, I want to talk more about that. We've got a lot to discuss here on the Midas Touch podcast. As a quick reminder, hit subscribe. Help us get to 6 million subscribers here and also become a member of our YouTube channel. It helps so much grow this channel. There are lots of people who can't afford memberships. You can gift memberships to people who can't afford them. Just click Join, and then it'll offer you to gift memberships to others. If you can, gift memberships to others. There are bonus features on the Midas Touch YouTube channel, like a special podcast I do with Ron Filipkowski.

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Now we're nearly going on two days now without the person in custody. This is what happens when you don't put serious people, when you put podcasters/influencers in these high cabinet positions to lead these high offices without any real experience. This is what you should expect. We know that he had fired the previous head, Ben, of that force. Prior to this all going down, about six weeks or so, Ben, before. I know you know more information on that as well. And that's the scary part when you start putting influencers in these positions, this is the stuff that we've been warning about. This is why you need people who are actually experienced in these fields leading the charge, Ben.

The head of the field office in Utah was a lady by the name of Metab Saeed, Pakistani lady. After September 11th, she decided that she wanted to work in the FBI. She actually worked as an attache in the Pakistan FBI field office. She was so well regarded. She ran counterterrorism out of Washington, DC, and then she led the Utah FBI office. Over the past few weeks, as the purge of other FBI officials accelerated by the Trump regime, they've been disproportionately getting rid of women and minorities. So Pakistani woman, see you later, despite her having a wealth of knowledge. They fired her. I think they started forcing her out in August, and she officially left, I think within the past few weeks. But she would be leading that Utah field office. So she's gone. Yesterday, morning, there was a massive lawsuit that was filed by at least three of the top FBI officials in main justice FBI in Washington, DC, in the main FBI DC office, including Driskill, the former acting director, basically, of the FBI, a guy named Evans, who was basically one of the top people, and a guy named Spencer, three of the top positions.

One of the main things that they warned in there about was that Cash Patel and Dan Bongino were so focused on their social media retweets and likes that they were prioritizing that over institutional awareness and over the integrity of the underlying investigations and cases and the work that the FBI was going to do. Also, we all know who is leading the Domestic Terrorist Threat Task Force right now. It's a guy named Thomas Fugate III, a 22-year-old former Trump intern with no law enforcement background, no FBI background. I think the guy was like a summer gardener before interning for Trump. Then Trump appointed this, again, 22-year-old guy to lead domestic threat assessments. Jordie, not only on the back end, does it seem like they were colossal failures. It's based on this idea of social media posting. We got them before you got them. You don't do that. But what about the threat assessments before? When it comes to that recent Minnesota shooting at the school that took place, the individual who engaged in the shooting was posting all over social media. He said, I'm intending to shoot, over and over and over again. That would normally be a function of FBI going through and...

You can't say that they're going to be perfect, but even if they're batting 300 or 400, they're able to stop a lot of these events from happening. Well, right now it's being led by Thomas Fugate III. And so to me, even though the world has turned its collective attention, not us here at the Midas Touch Network, from what went down with the flash floods in Texas and the hundreds of deaths of children when local, state and federal were all unprepared for the flash floods and totally mishandled. What if you had a competent FEMA that didn't fire all the necessary people that were in Texas that worked for the various weather departments and needed to be there that were fired or let go or resigned or were pushed out? Local and state officials did not have the right preparation. They stole the money that Biden gave for warning systems so that they could give themselves bonuses versus invest in the warning systems because they don't want to return the money. And then the feds weren't there. It took what, days before Christie Noem signed off on urban search and rescue, even though they were ready to go.

God knows where she was during that fourth of July weekend. But at some point, as these things start to mount, you're like, Okay, we've seen far more deaths from natural disasters. We've seen far more inabilities to respond to these types of terroristic events. We know that Trump's firing the people who are responsible for these positions. I think it bears mentioning that again as well. You go from domestic, you look at foreign policy right now. The same way you have Donald Trump, again, we'll talk about the economy here. No inflation. We're in a golden age. Everything is great. Things are amazing. What are you talking about? Things couldn't be better. When it comes to foreign policy, you've got Donald Trump saying, I've stopped 10 wars and everything is great. And look, we've renamed unlawfully the Department of Defense to the Department of War. So we're strong. Look, everybody, we've moved four of our biggest ships in a nuclear submarine off the Coast of Venezuela, and we shot a fishing boat, allegedly with 11 people on it. And then Trump post-ISIS style murder Rubios, killing purportedly 11 people. He goes, They're Trenda Iragua. They were headed for the United States with cocaine, even though Marco Rubios said they were headed for Trinidad.

Then they changed the story and said the United States, it looked like a 16-footer, maybe a 24-footer max. Didn't have the fuel to get to the United States. Well, Trenda Iragua also is known for human trafficking. How do you know they didn't have innocent human beings on that fishing boat? How do you know they weren't just fishermen? Why don't we have additional information from our government about a freaking death video that Donald Trump posted? We don't get to know the identities. There's no press conferences about it. We're done talking about it. Trump posts an ISIS style death video of a fishing boat, and then we're supposed to just move on. By the way, even if it was cocaine, even if it was heading to the United States, we don't have the death penalty for that in the United States. We don't kill people for that. You don't get to be judge, jury, and executioner of people's life. Why wouldn't you just stop the boat then if it was cocaine and say, We know there's cocaine on the boat. Turn around. You're just going to blow it up with military equipment? How ridiculous does that look?

To me, that doesn't show It shows weakness. You know what showing strength would be? To me, showing strength would be when Poland was invaded. There was an invasion with all of the things happening. Let's not forget. Poland was invaded by Russia with drones, Eastern Poland, and not just one. Dozens and could have been up to 350 Russian drones went into Polish airspace. Poland had to activate its Air Force to shoot shoot down the drones. Poland has invoked Article 4 of NATO, which is the precursor to Article 5. Article 4 is consultation saying we should talk NATO because we may need to have a military response to Russia. Things are getting absolutely serious here, as can be. And so what's Donald Trump's response to that? Does Donald Trump make any posts? He made one short post and he was like, What's going on? He's like, Jerry Seinfeld, What's the deal with the Russia? What's the deal, everybody? Here we go. He goes, Here we go. What's the deal? And then he was asked today, What is your view? What is your view about Russia sending drones into Poland? After Donald Trump's first appearance earlier today, when he was at the Pentagon for the 9/11 ceremony, this was Trump on Russian drones in Poland.

He goes, Could have been a mistake. Could have been a mistake. Here, playing this clip.

What's your reaction to Russian drone intrusion into Poland?

It could have been a mistake. Could have been a mistake. But regardless, I'm not happy about anything having to do with that whole situation. But hopefully, it's going to come to an end. Hopefully, it's going to come to an end. And Jordy, Poland's Foreign Minister, Sikorsky, posted, No, that That wasn't a mistake. This just makes us look totally weak. Jordy, what do you think?

Absolutely. Donald Trump makes us look weaker and weaker with every passing day that goes by. It goes back to my theory when Putin met with Donald Trump a few weeks ago in Alaska, it was to size the guy up. It was to be like, Oh, yeah, this Trump guy is as weak and pathetic as everyone's telling me. You know what? It's even worse than 2016. This is beyond repair at this point. To see Donald Trump get in of the cameras and once again take Putin's side, it's appalling. It should hurt everybody seeing a United States President act like that because that is not leadership. That is not leadership. I don't know what that is other than that's just a pathetic response to what's been happening. And yet I just get frustrated, Ben, with corporate media and how they handle it and how they just let the guy escape by. That's why I'm glad we here at the Midas Touch Network will show these clips and hold his feet to the fire on this stuff because this isn't normal. None of this that's been happening is normal. And it's okay for you personally, I'm talking to you, the viewer right now, to feel like, Hey, this is all crazy stuff, right?

This is all insane. It is. And yet when you turn on the TV or cable or wherever and corporate media just tries to normalize all of this behavior, Ben, each and every day, it's exhausting. That's why I'm so glad we have this community, the Midas Mighty and Everybody Here, to just see this for what it is as utter and incredible weakness from Donald Trump at the highest level of government. And leadership, man, it's top down. And so his whole weakness, Ben, has just manifested itself into the modern day Republican Party, where these aren't Republicans, the Nancy Maces of the world. They're not the Republicans that your grandparents knew. They just aren't. I don't know what this is, but they can never, ever have a differing opinion from their dear leader, Donald Trump, because otherwise, they're going to get a mean ex-post or mean truth social post, Ben, about them, and they'll be scared, and they'll be upset that their dear leader made fun of them. They don't even work for their constituents anymore, this modern-day Republican Party. All they report to is their dear Donald Trump. When you see weakness like that, then, play out every single day, I mean, that's utter cowardice.

I don't even know what to say about that.

You know, Jordie, it's not just even a Republican thing. There is a moral, but it's mostly embodied by as a political party, it's embodied in the Republican Party. But overall, there is this moral rot, like a brain rot that has overcome, like a tsunami, has overcome our country where everybody's, not everybody, but corporate leaders have lost all semblance of a moral compass in these various moments. On a day like today, where we have the Naval Academy on lockdown after a shooting, you had, again, Charlie Kirk's assassin was on the loose. You have Russia launching drones into Poland. You have devastating economic numbers where Americans are worried right now if they're going to go bankrupt, if they're going to be able to afford food for their family tomorrow. Most Americans are suffering, suffering right now. That's not an exaggeration of the word suffering, are psychologically tortured. Then you have Donald Trump go to Yankee Stadium, and he takes a photo in the locker room with the Yankees. With the Yankees. Everybody there in the locker room smiling, Donald Trump's thumbs are up. I'm just thinking to myself, how many players on that team are Latino? How many players on that team come from backgrounds where their people are under attack from Donald Trump right now?

I mean, there was once in our nation's history a tradition, though, of people standing up against authority, standing up against this crap, and standing up for your people. I remember, I mean, I represented Colin Kaepernick when he took a knee. I was very suspicious that a lot of the support for him at the time was performative when players came together and athletes and lots of people and people stood up against Trump back in 2017. He said, Get the son of a bee off the Get the son of a bee off the field would be the nicest thing Donald Trump said today. Get the son of a bee off the field feels like preschool compared to what Donald Trump does before 10: 00 AM in the morning in terms of what Trump's rhetoric is. I see corporate leaders of all from leaders of banks. Well, what do you think? I saw they interviewed the head of Wells Fargo the other day in one of these financial channels. Well, what do you make of Donald Trump attacking the chairman of the Federal Reserve and going after other governors of the Federal Reserve? What do you think the Wells Fargo said?

Well, I think that we've always had a history of presidents expressing their own independent views towards the Fed. No, we haven't. We've never had anything like this. What are you talking about? We've never had a situation in recent history where you have masked ICE agents being given the green light by the Supreme Court to racially profile Latinos, a lot of them in the community where my wife's family lives in communities like that and kidnap them because they're Latino, regardless of whether they're citizens or not, and throw them into concentration camps. Then I see the freaking Yankees thumbs uping with him. F you to the Yankees, F you to the Boston, F you to anybody at this position who has... If you have money and you have privilege, and you... I mean, I'm looking at that photo, all of those people are probably set for life already. You're too cowardly to do anything but stand in that photo and give the thumbs up. You all are a bunch of real, pathetic human beings, is how I feel about all. You don't need to be in the picture. You don't need to be in the photo. Maybe have some empathy for what Americans are going through right now in this moment when they are suffering, when your own people are being freaking kidnapped.

Again, I'll go through and I'll find out how many Latinos are on that team. When your own people are suffering, that's how you are. Is Is it moral rot? Are you so delusional? Are you hateful people? Do you just care about your money? Are you so devoid of what the hell is happening in our country? And that's one of the things, Jordie, as more information is has become available to the public, rather than creating a more informed citizenry, it's actually taking us back to the Middle Ages, to the Dark Ages, where there was no information at all. And you just had aristocrats and poor people, and no one knew the information but the Kings and Queens. It seems that with all this new information, we've just been brought back to the Dark Ages, and all of that's been able to emerge again. Well, as As long as I have this microphone, I'm not going to stop what I'm doing, and you're not going to stop what you're doing. And this community is going to... Because when history is written, I want it to be very clear where I stand, no matter what the hell happens to me.

And that's on the side of empathy and love and bringing people together and calling out this crap. It should be very easy for you to say, I do not support somebody who's kidnapping human beings by sending mast agents to freaking go after. What are we talking about here? Anyway, let's take our last quick break of the show. Join, become a member, support what we're doing. We obviously need you more than ever to help our growth. That should be pretty obvious based on what's happening in our freaking country right now. So please become a member, buy memberships for others, go to midisplus. Com. Home stretch when we return on this episode of the Midas Touch podcast. We'll be right back.

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That's a scary thought, too. We get later on this episode, Benji, and this is a good episode. I miss Brett. I'm excited to have him back, but you and I don't get to do this too often. I like the one-on-ones with you and Mebi. I think we're doing a pretty good job. Where do you want to go next?

Well, also, as I look at that Yankees photo- Never been proud of being a Mets fan.

Never been proud of being a Mets fan. Didn't think I'd ever say that.

They didn't have the God-given or whatever you want to call it, given talent of being a professional baseball player. They would be ending up, rounded up by Donald Trump with ICE agents and masks and thrown into camps like Alligator Alcatraz. I have to imagine that they have people in their family or extended family who are experiencing terror and torture at the hands of this regime, and they're taking photographs with the guy. As I told you, it's deeply personal to me, but obviously, I'm fighting for all of the people here on this network because when the Supreme Court blesses the Trump's ability to do what they call the roving patrols of the Latino communities, the ICE agents on a daily basis are going through the neighborhood, where My wife lives, and they're going to the gym where my wife lives, and they're going to the gym where my mother-in-law would work out. They're hanging out in front of the churches where they would go to pray, and the people are terrified to leave. They're hanging out in front of the school schools where my nieces and nephews go to school. And I don't know. They're not going after the criminals.

They're not going after the bad guys. They're going after the hard workers. They're going after street vendors. They're going after people who are showing up for court appearances, who are just going through the process. They're going after people who are here for 30 years, 40 years, who don't even know where their homeland... They don't even have a connection to the original country that they're from. Mass agents rounding people off the street. They're calling their Chicago invasion, Operation Midway Blitz. Midway Blitz, as though this is a major invasion of a country. They're doing it to states in the United States as we speak. Again, it is it is utterly, utterly Utterly, beyond me. I want to talk about the economy, though, as well, because we got those inflation numbers showing inflation came in hot. You don't want inflation to come in hot. You want it to come in cool. Headline inflation, 2. 9% year over year. Core inflation, 3. 1% year over year. Just so what that means, 3. 1% more this year than last year. If you are concerned, you're like, Whoa, inflation's bad last year. Well, it's 3. 1% higher this year than it was last year.

And inflation was heading down. Now it's heading up. When I had the opportunity to interview Democratic Congress member, Brandon Boyle, the ranking member on the budget committee. He goes, The big concern also about these inflation numbers is that now what we're seeing are the tariffs really kicking in. Because before, Trump would do the taco thing. He always chickens out. Some people don't like the taco expression. But in any event, he would... There's some people who are like, TACO is not cool. Don't do TACO anymore. But in any event, he would delay, delay, delay. Now the tariffs are set and they're harmful. And lots of businesses that have done as much as possible to eat the tariffs here in the United States, not the country of origin, because it's paid by the importing company here in the United States. They've either gone bankrupt. That's why we see more bankruptcies than in any recent period of time, double the bankruptcies already than were in the past two years before, and we're not anywhere in the years not over. And we are now seeing a very significant surge in prices. We're all seeing it now. Jordie, Midas-Midi, who would have warned us about this?

Who would have known that this could have been true? How about 16 Nobel Laureates and former vice President Kamala Harris, who during the debate with Donald Trump just was spitting the data out there and saying, Here's what the Nobel Laureate Economists say. Let's play the clip of Kamala Harris during the debate. Let's play.

What Goldman Sachs has said is that Donald Trump's plan would make the economy worse. Mine would strengthen the economy. What the Wharton School has said is Donald Trump's plan would actually explode the deficit. Sixteen Nobel laureates have described his economic plan as something that would increase inflation and by the middle of next year would invite a recession. You You just have to look at where we are and where we stand on the issues. I'd invite you to know that Donald Trump actually has no plan for you because he is more interested in defending himself than he is in looking out for you.

I mean, it's an excellent point, and it's backed up with data. Then the point at the end, especially with Donald Trump, his only interest is in himself. Could that not be more clear, Ben? Could that not be more clear with every passing day?

I mean, who would have known that if you follow the data or if you just accept the most basic concept that a tariff is a tax, a tax on the American consumer. You literally, when you are paying the tariff, the import and company pays the levy to get the product. Oh, the product caused this? All right, you fill out a form and then you pay the government whatever the tariff rate is. If it's 15%, if it's 50%, you name it. Now, if you lie about the goods that you imported, you're prosecuted for a felony. So if you try to hide it, which people try to do, you could be prosecuted for that. But you have to report as the company, Here's what I imported from this country, it's from that country. So then to the government, I'm paying you this. That's what it is. So then if I'm the company, I've now had to pay, if it's from India, 50% more. Unless you're Apple and you give Donald Trump a golden block and you get an exemption. But if you're another company, it's 50%. If it's Brazil, because Donald Trump was pissed that the Brazilian courts did what our courts should have done here, Jair Bolsonaro, the insurrectionist former President of Brazil, was prosecuted and today found guilty, and will probably go to jail for the rest of his life good the way Donald Trump should.

If the Brazil Supreme Court works, our Supreme Court gives Donald Trump absolute immunity and then says that you could racially profile in the United States. That's our Supreme Court. Great work, American right-wing fascist Supreme Court. The Brazil Supreme Court holds its insurrectionist former leaders accountable. But Tara in Brazil, 50%. If you're bringing in Brazilian coffee, Brazil exports the coffee, you as the American company say, I got Brazilian coffee and I spent $50,000, whatever it is, on the coffee that came in, then I'm going to pay an extra 50% on it. Now I'm going to pay $75,000 for it. Now the company says, Well, my profit margins already were 5%. So how am I going to make a profit if my margins were 5% when I brought it in for 50,000, and now it's 75,000, meaning I would now be losing a significant amount of money. I've got to now raise my prices on the consumer. And the consumer may stop buying my products altogether, or they may pay a higher price. That's what it is. It's not a complicated concept. Yet you have Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent go up there and Howard Lutnik, and they just go, No, no, no, no, no, We're good.

It's like golden age. We're in a golden age. Everything's amazing. We're great. We've never been better. Now they're like, Well, we think that maybe in 2026, things will be good? What's Donald Trump saying? We're really going to start to see the effects of our plan in 2027. The definition of a Ponzi schema, the way I like to describe it, is you rob Peter to pay Paul, and then you keep it going while then you're profiting from it all along the way. Well, that's basically what the tariff scheme is. Donald Trump says, Two weeks, two weeks. I need two more weeks. Give me two more weeks. That's just what a Ponzi schema does, hoping that in two weeks, they'll be able to figure out way to get out of the fraud. It's just what they do. It's what we see over and over again. So we saw a jobless claim numbers as well, not just an issue of inflation. The jobless claim numbers were horrible. They were very high today. I think we have that as well. Where's that graphic? Two hundred and sixty thousand, 263,000 jobless claims last week. That's the highest in almost four years.

We You see that a lot, the highest in almost four years, four years, four years. Yeah, when Donald Trump was in office before during COVID or you hear since the great recession. So we're getting all these indicators where things look like The height of COVID, the great recession, or stagflation, which means decreasing GDP, rising unemployment, rising inflation. That went back to the 1970s, and it's very hard to solve for stagflation. That's where we're at right now. Now, I do want to touch briefly upon Donald Trump's cover up of the Epstein files. I think that Democrats are doing a good job pushing back in the House of Representatives. I guess the plan of Trump and MAGA right now is we're done producing all of the DOJ docs. We're done. We're not turning over anything anymore. Trump's not going to meet with the victims. We We've done everything we're supposed to do. Presented with the birthday card that literally has Donald Trump's signature on it, it's so obvious, each MAGA Republican beclowns himself or herself worse than the next. Oh, I don't think that's a signature Okay, it's his signature. I don't need a forensic expert or a handwraper.

It's obviously his signature. It looks just like it. Then what's the working theory that someone went back to the future and they uncovered and they planted this, what they planted this, 22 years ago as a way to frame Donald Trump when he was a Democrat, and then they figured out how to frame him 22 years later, and then they planted it with all these other cards that existed. I mean, it's just the stupidest thing. I've done Congress member Moskowitz and Swalwell and Roe-Khan and others. I've been doing a really good job pointing it out. I've shown those video clips in other episodes, so I don't think I need to show that one here. But let me show you. Actually, should I show him the Moskowitz clip, Jordy?

Let's do Mosquets, Ben. Let's do... Moskowitz was particularly good. Let's show that.

Let's play the Moskowitz. We'll play one of them. We'll play both of them. We'll play the first of them first.

I'm here to defend him as by far the best investigator of all time in the capital, which is exactly why all of his investigations, which have used Chinese informants that were prosecuted and Russian disinformation, people from prison. I mean, The main thing he was tasked with last year, which was the Biden impeachment, we had a vote. Oh, no, we never had a vote on that because, of course, he didn't find any evidence. So this morning, our close personal friend Mr. Comer said that he was not going to look into the letter or the doodle, the President's doodle. He's a decent doodler, by the way. So he wasn't going to look into whether the signature was a forgery, and I'm concerned about that because this is the President of the United States. If there are forgery or forgers out there, I think we should investigate it. And in fact, this document is 22 years old. So you're telling me someone 22 years ago went back to the future and forged his signature when he was a Democrat. And somehow this person was Nostradamus, knew he would become a Republican, become President 22 years later. So listen, I submit to you that we can solve this problem for the American people.

You don't have to take my word for it. You don't have to take our dear personal friend, Mr. Comer's word for it. Let's bring in a signature expert. You guys pick the witnesses, bring in your signature expert, swear them under oath, and let's have the signature examined. Is it his or it is not his? We don't have to play games or the President says it's not his, we say it's him. No, no. Let's bring in a signature expert, a referee, because we can't agree on anything, even when it's right in our face, of whether that is indeed the President's signature, or if it's a forgery, we should immediately open up an investigation into this forgery. I think that- Well, the gentleman- Jordy.

He's spot on. He's spot on. And to that, exactly. Someone went back into the past. They knew Trump was going to be President. He said, Hey, let's forge his signature so we could blackmail him about 20 years down the line here. I mean, it's all so ridiculous. But I'll say this, the reaction by Donald Trump and his team, and it's certainly not... Sometimes people like to say the cover-up is worse than the crime. In this instance, the crime is the crime, and it's awful, and there's nothing worse than what happened on Epstein's Island. But their reaction, Ben, to Donald Trump and this signature and how they're trying to cover it up, I mean, no one has ever looked more guilty. Let me just Just put it that way, than how Donald Trump, MAGA, Caroline Levet, they're all reacting to the signature. It's unbelievable to me to see. You know what? It's not unbelievable because we see it time and time again with Donald Trump and this regime, how they try to lie their way through everything. The issue with them on Epstein, Ben, and the Epstein files is there are so many people who are truly hyper-focused, who truly understand understand just how vile and despicable and disgusting and heinous and every other adjective in the world that went down on Epstein's Island and that people really want answers to this, that he can't lie his way out of this.

He'll continue to try. But this right here, the Epstein files, Jeffrey Epstein, whatever happened on that island as more and more information continues to come out, people are not going to lose interest in this topic because it's It's not just something for political posture. These were girls who were raped by Jeffrey Epstein, the pedophile that he was, and everyone in his pedophile cabal. These are folks that want answers. If there are names out there, and if there are answers out there, you could sure as hell bet that those answers will come to light then. They 1,000% will because people, again, are hyper, hyper-focused on this.

See corporate news a lot on CNN, where obviously, Fox doesn't even talk about it anymore. But on other corporate news like CNN, they'll be like, But there's really nothing that ties Donald Trump to any wrongdoing. They want to say that because what they're worried about getting sued. Let me look in the camera right now and show you how you do it, CNN or other corporate news. Yes, there is a lot that ties Donald Trump to wrongdoing. I can say that without fear of getting sued, or if I do get sued, I will win. I will sit Donald Trump's ass right in front of me, and I will be glad to take his deposition about Epstein and anything else that Donald Trump was involved in. But you want me to prove it to you very quickly? I don't know. How about the fact that Donald Trump, during this period of time from the 1990s, has been found liable for sexual assault during period of time? Donald Trump was found liable for a federal jury. Donald Trump's on audio, bragging about grabbing women by their genitals. He says, When you're rich, they let you do it. For million of years, fortunately or unfortunately, that's just the way it is.

Or you have Donald Trump who led beauty pageants, who owned beauty pageants that had girls between the ages of 14 to 28. You have Donald Trump going on and doing interviews where he said, One of the perks about owning beauty pageants was that you get to inspect them naked. You get to look at them naked because you're like the inspector because you own the pageant. You just walk right in on them. You also have the fact that Mar-a-Lago was used as the grounds for sex trafficking. Now, Donald Trump can say, I didn't know about it, but if your home was used as the grounds for sex trafficking, probably would not be a good look for you. What if in Biden's home or Obama's? He could say, Well, Donald Trump's got a big home. I might say, Well, okay, fine. What's your argument? Your argument is that he didn't know about. Well, what did he say? He said that Epstein would steal the girls from his spa, like Virginia Jufrey, the underage child who was sex trafficked by Epstein in the 2000. But then two years later, Donald Trump says, Epstein's a great guy who likes beautiful women.

Many are on the younger side. Okay, well, I gave you those facts right there. Liable for sexual assault, bragging about sexually assaulting women, talking about inspecting them naked at beauty pageants. Mar-a-lago was the grounds where at least some of the girls were sex trafficked, like Virginia Jufra. Undisputed facts. The fact that we can't The fact that we don't have the moral clarity in the United States to process what I just said and go, Yeah, that guy shouldn't be leading the country. You could apply that to everything, Jordi, and I'll just apply that to the economy. 17 trillion, what's CNBC doing? You have Joe Kernen, a MAGA guy on CNBC. You can't even watch CNBC. Is that even a financial?

You can't watch CNBC. It's unwatchable. That's one of the biggest cons out there right now is CNBC, Ben. You talk about this all the time. Sorry, go ahead.

You know what? I mean, it's supposed to be the financial network. They've got the MAGA Host who's frankly worse than OAN or any of these real voices of America. This guy is worse than that. It's like Trump's making up 17 trillion. Could you imagine if Biden or Obama or George W. Bush or Clinton, I got 17 trillion dollars? The stock market would absolutely tank, and there'd be an impeachment for making up 17 trillion. Just look at the monthly deficit again. I led with this, but let me close the show with this. The monthly deficit in August was $345 billion. Revenues, 344 billion, spending, 689 billion. That means we spent 345 billion more than we took in, hence the deficit. So the total deficit for 2025 is 1. 973 trillion. Round up and just say 2 trillion. Okay, math was never my best subject. But if we brought in 17 trillion, the way Donald Trump said, and the deficit is 2 trillion. To me, that means our surplus is 15 trillion. So there's the budget committee. Maga Republicans on the budget committee. Why are we even worried about a shut? You have infinite money. Wait a minute.

The 17 trillion is not showing up on our books? The fact, Jordi, that that's not even a scandal. That Donald Trump just gets to go there and be in the Yankees locker room with his teeny tiny thumb up while he lies about even something like that. It doesn't register. It won't be on the front page of anywhere. I mean, it pisses me off. What a lie. It's a Ponzi. Then what happens, Jordie? A year from now, six months from now, a shocker. More bad news, a shocker. Where did this come from? Another shocker. It's like, you all are all complicit in this. I guess one of the hard things to process in all of this is how many cooperators there are, how many complicit human beings there are, how many people you thought were good and decent people who turned out to be pieces of shit. That's a hard thing to process because you're not a good person if you're enabling this bad, you're just as bad. Then don't come running back to me four years from now, Oh, I had to do it. I was just following orders, or, You were so courageous. You did the right thing.

Fuck you. Seriously, F you. Don't talk to me in the future. I mean it. I don't want to hear I don't want to know it. I don't want you to crawl your way back into my life. Get the hell out. Now, get the hell out. Exactly. Because you all are all just as responsible for that. So not sure if I'm ending it on a positive note or a negative note.

I'll end it on a positive note here, though, real quick before we sign off. I just want to say the one silver lining then of the Internet and of the culture that we're living in right now is that we no longer have to be gay kept by CNN, Fox News of the World, the CNBCs, which is, again, just a ploy, and it's unbelievable. But we have this. We have the Midas Touch Network. We have a lot of other great independent media out there that are doing the work, that are bringing the receipts, are bringing the facts and data to the table. We no longer, as a society, have to rely on just standard cable news anymore. In fact, most people, Ben, don't. I mean, the amount of cord cutters we see out there is unbelievable. What we're doing around 350 million views now on the Midas Touch Network every single month. We're beating Fox We're beating all of them on digital, Ben. And so that's a testament, not to us, but to you, the Midas Mighty, and you, the listener, for craving the facts, the data, the receipts that we, as a collective here at the network, get to bring every single day, whether it's here on the Midas Touch YouTube or on our Substack, Midas Plus or wherever on the various socials accounts.

If you are consuming other independent media, I'm sure they're doing a great job as well. We're in a time right now, Ben, where people are fed up of the gaslighting. That's what I love so much about this community here is every single day, everyone motivates me to work harder, and they motivate our entire staff to work harder. We have such an incredible team here from Salty and all of our producers and all the editorial staff. We're hungry. Collectively, we are hungry for the truth, for normalcy, right? To live in a world where we don't have to be scared about what the Commander in Chief is ex-posting or true socialing. It's just unbelievable to times that we're living in. Again, don't allow yourself to be gaslit by corporate media. We're all in this together, and it's a crazy time period for sure. We're going to get through this because every single day we're going to wake up, we're going to bring the facts, the data, the receipts. Thank you so much for watching. Please make sure to subscribe to the Midas Touch podcast on audio wherever you listen to podcast. Please become a subscriber of the YouTube channel.

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